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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: dgonseaux on March 19, 2012, 07:43:00 AM
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I've got a question for all you vets. This is day 26 for me and I've been substituting coffee since around day 4 or 5. It's been in my lip pretty much constantly but last night I went a couple hours without it and had some pretty intense lip burn and snapped at my wife for the first time in a couple of days. Do I need to drop the coffee now or is it ok to continue and will it be easy to quit later?
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I've got a question for all you vets. This is day 26 for me and I've been substituting coffee since around day 4 or 5. It's been in my lip pretty much constantly but last night I went a couple hours without it and had some pretty intense lip burn and snapped at my wife for the first time in a couple of days. Do I need to drop the coffee now or is it ok to continue and will it be easy to quit later?
Dude, let me tell you... if you are able to suffer thru coffee grounds in your lip for extended periods, and are now finding yourself irritable... well, the writing is on the wall.
No sense getting all wired out on caffeine... though in terms of trading "addictions", I don't see it that way.
I just know that caffeine overload gets someone hyper and irritable... now tack on the nic withdrawals, and you may be compounding your symptoms.
Thats my $.02 worth... try decaf, and see if your temper subsides a bit.
If you think you are ready to ween off the oral fixation, maybe its time to slide into seeds or gum or something less "dip" like.
Getting things out of your lip is the next logical step, and oh by the way... just think how much better you will sleep without caffeine coursing thru your veins. Your heart-rate will go down to something normal... and your brain will finally relax.
Oh the pleasant slumber it will be too... try it.
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I've got a question for all you vets. This is day 26 for me and I've been substituting coffee since around day 4 or 5. It's been in my lip pretty much constantly but last night I went a couple hours without it and had some pretty intense lip burn and snapped at my wife for the first time in a couple of days. Do I need to drop the coffee now or is it ok to continue and will it be easy to quit later?
Dude, let me tell you... if you are able to suffer thru coffee grounds in your lip for extended periods, and are now finding yourself irritable... well, the writing is on the wall.
No sense getting all wired out on caffeine... though in terms of trading "addictions", I don't see it that way.
I just know that caffeine overload gets someone hyper and irritable... now tack on the nic withdrawals, and you may be compounding your symptoms.
Thats my $.02 worth... try decaf, and see if your temper subsides a bit.
If you think you are ready to ween off the oral fixation, maybe its time to slide into seeds or gum or something less "dip" like.
Getting things out of your lip is the next logical step, and oh by the way... just think how much better you will sleep without caffeine coursing thru your veins. Your heart-rate will go down to something normal... and your brain will finally relax.
Oh the pleasant slumber it will be too... try it.
26 days is awesome brother! Awesome!
The caffeine from the coffee probably isn't very good for you but it's better than nicotine. Whatever it takes to keep nicotine out of your system.
A little further down the road I would start worrying about the oral fixation but th emost important thing for you right now is staying quit.
YOU ARE DOING IT BRO! WAY TO GO!!
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I've got a question for all you vets. This is day 26 for me and I've been substituting coffee since around day 4 or 5. It's been in my lip pretty much constantly but last night I went a couple hours without it and had some pretty intense lip burn and snapped at my wife for the first time in a couple of days. Do I need to drop the coffee now or is it ok to continue and will it be easy to quit later?
Dude, let me tell you... if you are able to suffer thru coffee grounds in your lip for extended periods, and are now finding yourself irritable... well, the writing is on the wall.
No sense getting all wired out on caffeine... though in terms of trading "addictions", I don't see it that way.
I just know that caffeine overload gets someone hyper and irritable... now tack on the nic withdrawals, and you may be compounding your symptoms.
Thats my $.02 worth... try decaf, and see if your temper subsides a bit.
If you think you are ready to ween off the oral fixation, maybe its time to slide into seeds or gum or something less "dip" like.
Getting things out of your lip is the next logical step, and oh by the way... just think how much better you will sleep without caffeine coursing thru your veins. Your heart-rate will go down to something normal... and your brain will finally relax.
Oh the pleasant slumber it will be too... try it.
26 days is awesome brother! Awesome!
The caffeine from the coffee probably isn't very good for you but it's better than nicotine. Whatever it takes to keep nicotine out of your system.
A little further down the road I would start worrying about the oral fixation but th emost important thing for you right now is staying quit.
YOU ARE DOING IT BRO! WAY TO GO!!
Exactly.
26 days is freaking awesome, but don't move too quickly for yourself. The oral fixation will fade with time. I used fake snuff until the 130s, and still keep a bag of seeds in my office for work time cravings.
Do whatever you have to do to stay quit today.
There is also a fuck in the 20s that is quite nasty. It peaked on day 29 for me and I raged against everything and everyone.
The 20s funk is a result of your adreneline running out on your quit. For these past few weeks, you've drank, ate, and slept quit. The nic bitch is a patient whore though. She doesn't think you're serious, so she's bided her time. Now that you are 3 weeks (almost 4) in, she's getting impatient and shaking her titties at you. She wants back into your life hardcore, and she'll do anything to get back there.
You just have to remember that she is disease ridden, and probably running train with half of Pittsburgh. She might look good from afar, but there's a strong smell of semen, sweat, and Twinkies on her that you notice. The bitch is batshit insane, and she'll lock onto you and drain your bank accounts.
Bunker down and get through the day. It was your choice to let her into your life to begin with. Try not to take it out on your wife. That's what we're here for. We're big boys and we can dish it out and take it. Check your pm's for my number.
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I've got a question for all you vets. This is day 26 for me and I've been substituting coffee since around day 4 or 5. It's been in my lip pretty much constantly but last night I went a couple hours without it and had some pretty intense lip burn and snapped at my wife for the first time in a couple of days. Do I need to drop the coffee now or is it ok to continue and will it be easy to quit later?
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Never thought of coffee as a chew substitute. If you are experiencing lip burn, probably time to try something else (seeds, gum, my favorite altoids). I'd think the caffeine would be problem for sleeping, irritability, but don't have any exerience chewing it...
Don't rant at your family, rant here. We know what you are going through. Whichever way you chose to go, protect and maintain your quit. You are doing great.
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Thanks for all the advice ya'll. Things have been pretty good the past week and a half with dipping coffee non stop. I just had a little short tempered snap last night when I tried to go a couple of hours without it and it scared me because it was the same feeling I used to have when I was late for my nic whore appt.
I've been switching back and forth between caffiene and decaf and I haven't noticed a whole lot of a difference. I figure I'm only putting in less than a teaspoons worth at a time and a I normally use 2 tablespoons for a cup (which I rarely drink now) so it's probably not any more caffiene than I'm used to, just more consistant.
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Thanks for all the advice ya'll. Things have been pretty good the past week and a half with dipping coffee non stop. I just had a little short tempered snap last night when I tried to go a couple of hours without it and it scared me because it was the same feeling I used to have when I was late for my nic whore appt.
I've been switching back and forth between caffiene and decaf and I haven't noticed a whole lot of a difference. I figure I'm only putting in less than a teaspoons worth at a time and a I normally use 2 tablespoons for a cup (which I rarely drink now) so it's probably not any more caffiene than I'm used to, just more consistant.
Perhaps this helps? http://www.killthecan.org/robs/cafnic.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/robs/cafnic.asp)
1 day a time.
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Thanks for all the advice ya'll. Things have been pretty good the past week and a half with dipping coffee non stop. I just had a little short tempered snap last night when I tried to go a couple of hours without it and it scared me because it was the same feeling I used to have when I was late for my nic whore appt.
I've been switching back and forth between caffiene and decaf and I haven't noticed a whole lot of a difference. I figure I'm only putting in less than a teaspoons worth at a time and a I normally use 2 tablespoons for a cup (which I rarely drink now) so it's probably not any more caffiene than I'm used to, just more consistant.
Perhaps this helps? http://www.killthecan.org/robs/cafnic.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/robs/cafnic.asp)
1 day a time.
Thanks Scowick. I had read something like that somewhere else. Maybe it's affecting me and I'm just not aware of it. I may have decaf by accident in my bag today because I feel like what I imagine it would feel like to be dying, fighting to keep my eyes open. I'm so freaking tired. It would be ok if I still worked outdoors but these computer screens are killing me...
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I've got a question for all you vets. This is day 26 for me and I've been substituting coffee since around day 4 or 5. It's been in my lip pretty much constantly but last night I went a couple hours without it and had some pretty intense lip burn and snapped at my wife for the first time in a couple of days. Do I need to drop the coffee now or is it ok to continue and will it be easy to quit later?
I don't know what you used before but the Smokey Mountain chew is pretty good. The wintergreen has a good flavor to it.
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I've got a question for all you vets. This is day 26 for me and I've been substituting coffee since around day 4 or 5. It's been in my lip pretty much constantly but last night I went a couple hours without it and had some pretty intense lip burn and snapped at my wife for the first time in a couple of days. Do I need to drop the coffee now or is it ok to continue and will it be easy to quit later?
I don't know what you used before but the Smokey Mountain chew is pretty good. The wintergreen has a good flavor to it.
That it does. I was pissed when they ran out at Walmart recently.
I don't ninja dip it at work like I used to, but it's cool to have when doing rare triggers like fishing or golfing, as opposed to driving and stuff.
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I've got a question for all you vets. This is day 26 for me and I've been substituting coffee since around day 4 or 5. It's been in my lip pretty much constantly but last night I went a couple hours without it and had some pretty intense lip burn and snapped at my wife for the first time in a couple of days. Do I need to drop the coffee now or is it ok to continue and will it be easy to quit later?
I don't know what you used before but the Smokey Mountain chew is pretty good. The wintergreen has a good flavor to it.
That it does. I was pissed when they ran out at Walmart recently.
I don't ninja dip it at work like I used to, but it's cool to have when doing rare triggers like fishing or golfing, as opposed to driving and stuff.
The only problem is they keep it with all the tobacco product and thats always seems to be the longest line.
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The point of all thisÂ…
IÂ’ve never been a man to express my feelings, much less write them down. My wife has to pry this stuff out of me most of the time. So why the change? Why now? Well, simply because I need to remember this. So here goes my lame attempt of a quit diary. I just wish I had started this at day oneÂ…
A word of warning to everyone who thinks everything is going just fine, and “I can make it no problem from here”….
Yesterday was my 35th day quit. It was quite possibly the worst day that I can ever remember. IÂ’m writing this more for myself so I can look back and remember exactly how badly life sucks having the nic bitch haunt you shortly after kicking her out, but I hope it helps someone else along the way too.
A little history, I used to be somewhat of an alcoholic and was pretty depressed that entire time of my life. You wouldn’t have known it by looking at me, but when I got alone, it was bad. What I went through yesterday took me straight back to that period in my life. I hated my job, my truck, my house, and I didn’t even want to go home to my 7 month pregnant wife and 1 year old girl. And I hated myself for that. It was like the sensible me stepped out of my body and was sitting there watching some kind of screwed up, self-destructing, reality show. I would throw a fit about every little thing that went wrong. For example, my wife hadn’t emptied the dishwasher by the time I got home (which I don’t expect her too) and so I started to clean it out. I really didn’t want to and let out a “I don’t want to clean out this fucking dishwasher!” and tried to break a plate by flexing it...
WHAT? I know that I’m doing it, I know it’s completely ridiculous, and yet I still do it. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH ME?!?!? It was at that point that the sensible me said “Wow, this is too much” and I stepped back in and said, “Hey man, go chill outside” Then it hit me. I remember reading somewhere that depression is a symptom of quitting nicotine. Is that why I’ve been feeling so shitty today? Probably. So I texted a mentor and sure enough, he went through the exact same thing. An hour later, I went out to the garage to start organizing and pricing for a garage sale with my wife and started up my Jeremy Camp station on Pandora. The song that came on was definitely a message from God. That, combined with what my mentor said was exactly what I needed to hear. The chorus is below. I don't care if you're a believer or not, focus on the first 4 lines of that song. Powerful.
So I learned that when I start feeling bad for myself or sorry for myself or if I feel like IÂ’m losing control, I tell myself that this is temporary. Go away and take a few minutes for yourself. Spend some time with the Lord. DonÂ’t let your kid see you like this. And when I do, things will clear up after a while. The cycle might happen several times a day, but it will end. Just fight through. Stay quit.
You Are More by Tenth Avenue North
You are more than the choices that youÂ’ve made
You are more than the sum of your past mistakes
You are more than the problems you create
YouÂ’ve been remade
Cause this is not about what youÂ’ve done
But whatÂ’s been done for you
This is not about where youÂ’ve been
But where your brokenness brings you to
This is not about what you feel
But what He felt to forgive you
And what He felt to make you loved
Amen to that.
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Nice... Keep it up! Went through the same crap... Trust that it get's better!
Gunner26
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That is good shit there! Congrats on your choice, brother. Embrace the suck...it is the feeling of your recovery. Read the Tom Jenny Kern story (click on KilltheCan.org at the top and you'll see the link to their story at the bottom right).
Depressed? Heck, you GET to feel like this...it is a blessing. I love the idea of taking a few minutes to be with the Lord. That is exactly right...you're not in this alone. You have taken the first step, let us help you with the rest. That's what we're here for. Post, rage, read...whatever you need, we're here for that.
Nobody gets away from the Nic Bitch for the asking. There are no short cuts to freedom. I used to look at how many folks were on this site and realize that every damn one of us went through, or is going through, the same thing. It is pretty cool, if you think about it...a whole web-site full of people saving their own lives one day at a time. Pretty cool. huh?
It doesn't matter how much money you have, what color you are, who your daddy is. And, nobody can do this for you. You simply commit to quit and earn your freedom one day at a time. Depression is a serious condition. Don't ignore it and don't hesitate to seek medical help. But try to see it for what it is...another hurdle to get to freedom. You can do this, brother!!!
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The point of all thisÂ…
IÂ’ve never been a man to express my feelings, much less write them down. My wife has to pry this stuff out of me most of the time. So why the change? Why now? Well, simply because I need to remember this. So here goes my lame attempt of a quit diary. I just wish I had started this at day oneÂ…
A word of warning to everyone who thinks everything is going just fine, and “I can make it no problem from here”….
Yesterday was my 35th day quit. It was quite possibly the worst day that I can ever remember. IÂ’m writing this more for myself so I can look back and remember exactly how badly life sucks having the nic bitch haunt you shortly after kicking her out, but I hope it helps someone else along the way too.
A little history, I used to be somewhat of an alcoholic and was pretty depressed that entire time of my life. You wouldn’t have known it by looking at me, but when I got alone, it was bad. What I went through yesterday took me straight back to that period in my life. I hated my job, my truck, my house, and I didn’t even want to go home to my 7 month pregnant wife and 1 year old girl. And I hated myself for that. It was like the sensible me stepped out of my body and was sitting there watching some kind of screwed up, self-destructing, reality show. I would throw a fit about every little thing that went wrong. For example, my wife hadn’t emptied the dishwasher by the time I got home (which I don’t expect her too) and so I started to clean it out. I really didn’t want to and let out a “I don’t want to clean out this fucking dishwasher!” and tried to break a plate by flexing it...
WHAT? I know that I’m doing it, I know it’s completely ridiculous, and yet I still do it. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH ME?!?!? It was at that point that the sensible me said “Wow, this is too much” and I stepped back in and said, “Hey man, go chill outside” Then it hit me. I remember reading somewhere that depression is a symptom of quitting nicotine. Is that why I’ve been feeling so shitty today? Probably. So I texted a mentor and sure enough, he went through the exact same thing. An hour later, I went out to the garage to start organizing and pricing for a garage sale with my wife and started up my Jeremy Camp station on Pandora. The song that came on was definitely a message from God. That, combined with what my mentor said was exactly what I needed to hear. The chorus is below. I don't care if you're a believer or not, focus on the first 4 lines of that song. Powerful.
So I learned that when I start feeling bad for myself or sorry for myself or if I feel like IÂ’m losing control, I tell myself that this is temporary. Go away and take a few minutes for yourself. Spend some time with the Lord. DonÂ’t let your kid see you like this. And when I do, things will clear up after a while. The cycle might happen several times a day, but it will end. Just fight through. Stay quit.
You Are More by Tenth Avenue North
You are more than the choices that youÂ’ve made
You are more than the sum of your past mistakes
You are more than the problems you create
YouÂ’ve been remade
Cause this is not about what youÂ’ve done
But whatÂ’s been done for you
This is not about where youÂ’ve been
But where your brokenness brings you to
This is not about what you feel
But what He felt to forgive you
And what He felt to make you loved
Amen to that.
That is some hard-core awesome quit there!!!
Great advise that I will use now and continually for the rest of my days......
I am happy to be quit with you today brother!!!
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That is good shit there! Congrats on your choice, brother. Embrace the suck...it is the feeling of your recovery. Read the Tom Jenny Kern story (click on KilltheCan.org at the top and you'll see the link to their story at the bottom right).Â
Depressed? Heck, you GET to feel like this...it is a blessing. I love the idea of taking a few minutes to be with the Lord. That is exactly right...you're not in this alone. You have taken the first step, let us help you with the rest. That's what we're here for. Post, rage, read...whatever you need, we're here for that. Â
Nobody gets away from the Nic Bitch for the asking. There are no short cuts to freedom. I used to look at how many folks were on this site and realize that every damn one of us went through, or is going through, the same thing. It is pretty cool, if you think about it...a whole web-site full of people saving their own lives one day at a time. Pretty cool. huh?Â
It doesn't matter how much money you have, what color you are, who your daddy is. And, nobody can do this for you. You simply commit to quit and earn your freedom one day at a time. Depression is a serious condition. Don't ignore it and don't hesitate to seek medical help. But try to see it for what it is...another hurdle to get to freedom. You can do this, brother!!!
Do I cry at weddings? No
Do I cry at funerals? No (screwed up right?)
Do I cry when I hit a squirrel on the road? No
Did I cry when I read the Kern's story? Absolutely. I don't know that I would have before I had kids but...it's all about perspective. If more people would document their stories, the anti tobacco movement would be so much further along. I know that has to be tough doing that, but it helps more than words can describe.
Thanks so much for your support. I haven't been depressed in years, and it only lasted for a full day yesterday. I spent some time in the word, put on some praise music, and went to a men's Bible study this morning and haven't had any more issues as of yet. If/when I realize what's going on, taking a huge step back and looking at the big picture is essential. I've invested 35 days into 60 or 70 years of life. How does that compare? That's right. It doesn't. Man up and fight through.
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The point of all thisÂ…
IÂ’ve never been a man to express my feelings, much less write them down. My wife has to pry this stuff out of me most of the time. So why the change? Why now? Well, simply because I need to remember this. So here goes my lame attempt of a quit diary. I just wish I had started this at day oneÂ…
A word of warning to everyone who thinks everything is going just fine, and “I can make it no problem from here”….
Yesterday was my 35th day quit. It was quite possibly the worst day that I can ever remember. IÂ’m writing this more for myself so I can look back and remember exactly how badly life sucks having the nic bitch haunt you shortly after kicking her out, but I hope it helps someone else along the way too.
A little history, I used to be somewhat of an alcoholic and was pretty depressed that entire time of my life. You wouldn’t have known it by looking at me, but when I got alone, it was bad. What I went through yesterday took me straight back to that period in my life. I hated my job, my truck, my house, and I didn’t even want to go home to my 7 month pregnant wife and 1 year old girl. And I hated myself for that. It was like the sensible me stepped out of my body and was sitting there watching some kind of screwed up, self-destructing, reality show. I would throw a fit about every little thing that went wrong. For example, my wife hadn’t emptied the dishwasher by the time I got home (which I don’t expect her too) and so I started to clean it out. I really didn’t want to and let out a “I don’t want to clean out this fucking dishwasher!” and tried to break a plate by flexing it...
WHAT? I know that I’m doing it, I know it’s completely ridiculous, and yet I still do it. WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH ME?!?!? It was at that point that the sensible me said “Wow, this is too much” and I stepped back in and said, “Hey man, go chill outside” Then it hit me. I remember reading somewhere that depression is a symptom of quitting nicotine. Is that why I’ve been feeling so shitty today? Probably. So I texted a mentor and sure enough, he went through the exact same thing. An hour later, I went out to the garage to start organizing and pricing for a garage sale with my wife and started up my Jeremy Camp station on Pandora. The song that came on was definitely a message from God. That, combined with what my mentor said was exactly what I needed to hear. The chorus is below. I don't care if you're a believer or not, focus on the first 4 lines of that song. Powerful.
So I learned that when I start feeling bad for myself or sorry for myself or if I feel like IÂ’m losing control, I tell myself that this is temporary. Go away and take a few minutes for yourself. Spend some time with the Lord. DonÂ’t let your kid see you like this. And when I do, things will clear up after a while. The cycle might happen several times a day, but it will end. Just fight through. Stay quit.
You Are More by Tenth Avenue North
You are more than the choices that youÂ’ve made
You are more than the sum of your past mistakes
You are more than the problems you create
YouÂ’ve been remade
Cause this is not about what youÂ’ve done
But whatÂ’s been done for you
This is not about where youÂ’ve been
But where your brokenness brings you to
This is not about what you feel
But what He felt to forgive you
And what He felt to make you loved
Amen to that.
That is some hard-core awesome quit there!!!
Great advise that I will use now and continually for the rest of my days......
I am happy to be quit with you today brother!!!
Yesterday was a pisser for a lot of us. Sometimes I think there are unseen forces. Maybe yesterday was an all out battle to claim the quitters back. I was on day 15 and had the same feelings.
I am so glad I survived cause today is a new day. Great post. Looks like the nic bitch lost yesterday. WE MADE IT TO FIGHT TODAY!!!!
Thanks for keeping my inspired my friend.
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That is good shit there! Congrats on your choice, brother. Embrace the suck...it is the feeling of your recovery. Read the Tom Jenny Kern story (click on KilltheCan.org at the top and you'll see the link to their story at the bottom right).Â
Depressed? Heck, you GET to feel like this...it is a blessing. I love the idea of taking a few minutes to be with the Lord. That is exactly right...you're not in this alone. You have taken the first step, let us help you with the rest. That's what we're here for. Post, rage, read...whatever you need, we're here for that. Â
Nobody gets away from the Nic Bitch for the asking. There are no short cuts to freedom. I used to look at how many folks were on this site and realize that every damn one of us went through, or is going through, the same thing. It is pretty cool, if you think about it...a whole web-site full of people saving their own lives one day at a time. Pretty cool. huh?Â
It doesn't matter how much money you have, what color you are, who your daddy is. And, nobody can do this for you. You simply commit to quit and earn your freedom one day at a time. Depression is a serious condition. Don't ignore it and don't hesitate to seek medical help. But try to see it for what it is...another hurdle to get to freedom. You can do this, brother!!!
Do I cry at weddings? No
Do I cry at funerals? No (screwed up right?)
Do I cry when I hit a squirrel on the road? No
Did I cry when I read the Kern's story? Absolutely. I don't know that I would have before I had kids but...it's all about perspective. If more people would document their stories, the anti tobacco movement would be so much further along. I know that has to be tough doing that, but it helps more than words can describe.
Thanks so much for your support. I haven't been depressed in years, and it only lasted for a full day yesterday. I spent some time in the word, put on some praise music, and went to a men's Bible study this morning and haven't had any more issues as of yet. If/when I realize what's going on, taking a huge step back and looking at the big picture is essential. I've invested 35 days into 60 or 70 years of life. How does that compare? That's right. It doesn't. Man up and fight through.
Depression blows!!!!
I find myself starting to slide down the slope of depression rather frequently and for anyone who would have ever know me thats not ME!
I usually goto SWJ's page and read sometimes I dont get all laughing at the first story I may read but within a couple of stories I stop the slide into depression, I hope that can work for you and remember your doing right even though the nic bitch is trying to tell you differently!!!
Stay quit brother!!
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That is good shit there! Congrats on your choice, brother. Embrace the suck...it is the feeling of your recovery. Read the Tom Jenny Kern story (click on KilltheCan.org at the top and you'll see the link to their story at the bottom right).Â
Depressed? Heck, you GET to feel like this...it is a blessing. I love the idea of taking a few minutes to be with the Lord. That is exactly right...you're not in this alone. You have taken the first step, let us help you with the rest. That's what we're here for. Post, rage, read...whatever you need, we're here for that. Â
Nobody gets away from the Nic Bitch for the asking. There are no short cuts to freedom. I used to look at how many folks were on this site and realize that every damn one of us went through, or is going through, the same thing. It is pretty cool, if you think about it...a whole web-site full of people saving their own lives one day at a time. Pretty cool. huh?Â
It doesn't matter how much money you have, what color you are, who your daddy is. And, nobody can do this for you. You simply commit to quit and earn your freedom one day at a time. Depression is a serious condition. Don't ignore it and don't hesitate to seek medical help. But try to see it for what it is...another hurdle to get to freedom. You can do this, brother!!!
Do I cry at weddings? No
Do I cry at funerals? No (screwed up right?)
Do I cry when I hit a squirrel on the road? No
Did I cry when I read the Kern's story? Absolutely. I don't know that I would have before I had kids but...it's all about perspective. If more people would document their stories, the anti tobacco movement would be so much further along. I know that has to be tough doing that, but it helps more than words can describe.
Thanks so much for your support. I haven't been depressed in years, and it only lasted for a full day yesterday. I spent some time in the word, put on some praise music, and went to a men's Bible study this morning and haven't had any more issues as of yet. If/when I realize what's going on, taking a huge step back and looking at the big picture is essential. I've invested 35 days into 60 or 70 years of life. How does that compare? That's right. It doesn't. Man up and fight through.
Depression blows!!!!
I find myself starting to slide down the slope of depression rather frequently and for anyone who would have ever know me thats not ME!
I usually goto SWJ's page and read sometimes I dont get all laughing at the first story I may read but within a couple of stories I stop the slide into depression, I hope that can work for you and remember your doing right even though the nic bitch is trying to tell you differently!!!
Stay quit brother!!
That is a funny dude. I have no idea how he has time to come up with the crap he comes up with but I'm glad for it!
I have the same feeling of it not being me! I know it's not, but that's all you can see or remember at that moment ya know? Again, you gotta step back and see the WHOLE picture. I've got a beautiful wife, little girl, another on the way, house, job, and...
ONE HELL OF A FINE BROTHERHOOD ON THIS SITE!
Who could ask for more? Honestly!
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That is good shit there! Congrats on your choice, brother. Embrace the suck...it is the feeling of your recovery. Read the Tom Jenny Kern story (click on KilltheCan.org at the top and you'll see the link to their story at the bottom right).Â
Depressed? Heck, you GET to feel like this...it is a blessing. I love the idea of taking a few minutes to be with the Lord. That is exactly right...you're not in this alone. You have taken the first step, let us help you with the rest. That's what we're here for. Post, rage, read...whatever you need, we're here for that. Â
Nobody gets away from the Nic Bitch for the asking. There are no short cuts to freedom. I used to look at how many folks were on this site and realize that every damn one of us went through, or is going through, the same thing. It is pretty cool, if you think about it...a whole web-site full of people saving their own lives one day at a time. Pretty cool. huh?Â
It doesn't matter how much money you have, what color you are, who your daddy is. And, nobody can do this for you. You simply commit to quit and earn your freedom one day at a time. Depression is a serious condition. Don't ignore it and don't hesitate to seek medical help. But try to see it for what it is...another hurdle to get to freedom. You can do this, brother!!!
Do I cry at weddings? No
Do I cry at funerals? No (screwed up right?)
Do I cry when I hit a squirrel on the road? No
Did I cry when I read the Kern's story? Absolutely. I don't know that I would have before I had kids but...it's all about perspective. If more people would document their stories, the anti tobacco movement would be so much further along. I know that has to be tough doing that, but it helps more than words can describe.
Thanks so much for your support. I haven't been depressed in years, and it only lasted for a full day yesterday. I spent some time in the word, put on some praise music, and went to a men's Bible study this morning and haven't had any more issues as of yet. If/when I realize what's going on, taking a huge step back and looking at the big picture is essential. I've invested 35 days into 60 or 70 years of life. How does that compare? That's right. It doesn't. Man up and fight through.
Really glad to be quit with you. A lot in common. My wife would tell you we are a lot alike - she is constantly trying to drag emotions out of me. The Jenny Kern story is STRONG, POWERFUL STUFF. I have 4 kids and reading that story you can't help but put yourself in that situation - what if that was me?!?!?! Very emotional, very REAL.
I have quit many times like all of us - what is different now, first and foremost I started this quit with including God. I have never done that before. I pray for his strength, I text messaged a good friend who is a Monsignor at our old catholic church my promise and asked for his prayers. My wife reached out to family and told them to pray (she did it without me knowing) but I do believe that has truly helped. This site has also had a huge impact on my quit - I can't say enough about it.
One of the biggest factors is my kids are finally old enough to ask about it. Dad, why do you always eat that stuff. Don't you know it can kill you. My oldest daughter, who is in 1st grade, has learned about smoking and chewing in school - she had all the info and finally put 2 and 2 together on what the shit was that I put in my mouth. Well, that crushed me. And then reading the Jenny Kern story really punched me in the gut and knocked the wind out of me.
So glad to be quit and glad to be quitting with all of you. Very glad that God has given me the opportunity to quit before cancer set in. I will quit for myself and I quit for my family. I know people say you can't quit for your kids, but my kids are me they are the best part of me so I do quit for my kids. I quit for me!!!
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Very glad that God has given me the opportunity to quit before cancer set in.
Amen to that!
Next step. Work off some of this extra weight before obesity sets in...
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Very glad that God has given me the opportunity to quit before cancer set in.
Amen to that!
Next step. Work off some of this extra weight before obesity sets in...
I hear you bro. Working out hard to fight it, but eating harder to kill the craves. It is getting better though. Wish I liked cardio more - love the weight room but hard to get out there and run. Starting Insanity up next week. That is some tough shit if you have never tried it.
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Very glad that God has given me the opportunity to quit before cancer set in.
Amen to that!
Next step. Work off some of this extra weight before obesity sets in...
I hear you bro. Working out hard to fight it, but eating harder to kill the craves. It is getting better though. Wish I liked cardio more - love the weight room but hard to get out there and run. Starting Insanity up next week. That is some tough shit if you have never tried it.
I just can't bring myself to get out there and run right now. If I could afford a gym membership, I'd go at lunch. I could at least start walking 10 flights of stairs at lunch if I could only find where I put that motivation...
I haven't ever tried the insanity program, but I do have P90x and that is plenty for me. I just can't find time to do it with this one year old running around. Once my wife has this next one and heals up, I won't have to do quite so much around here and I'll be able to workout at home...hopefully.
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The weekend of day 38 - 39:
I started coming down with something flu like on Friday afternoon. Not good considering we had committed to a 5k Saturday morning. I've been trying to stay down earlier in a sick period recently because I normally will ignore it and continue about my life until it gets so bad that I literally can't get out of bed. Not smart but I never claimed brilliance. So that combined with chasing the kid everywhere both days, I wasnÂ’t doing so hot most of the weekend.
Now that’s a great thing for any kind of craves, but a horrible thing for my extremely short temper. Surprisingly, everything went well all of Saturday and most of Sunday. Then Sunday evening, I go and interject my “perfect” opinion about our child’s schedule that is obviously way better than my wife’s, even though she spends all day every day with this beautiful child. Long story short, I ended up snapping, then her pregnant hormones kicked in and she starting crying. I don’t handle crying very well so I cussed myself and used the wall and front door as a punching bag for my head. Explain to me how that’s smart…
“I’m pissed so I’m gonna go hit my head on the door” Idiot.
I left the room quicker this time, cooled down quicker, apologized quicker, and everything was back to “normal” quicker so I see progress and I know that this time in our life is passing. I’m able to recognize what’s going on a lot faster and deal with it correctly.
I got to work this morning and sat down to read the Bible and was directed to James. Whether you believe in Christ or not, this will help, so listen up:
“Consider it pure joy, my brothers, whenever you face trials of many kinds, because you know that the testing of your faith develops perseverance. Perseverance must finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything.”
-James 1:2-4
Of course, “Embrace the suck”! I bet some of ya’ll didn’t know ya’ll were being Biblical! Love this time! We are being tested! Out of any testing, no matter the subject, if we hold fast and weather the storm with a smile, we will come out of it stronger, more mature, and more complete. Every time I see that forehead shaped dent in the wall, I will smile and say, "thanks for making that so difficult nicotine, now I will NEVER return to you"
Carry on my brothers, and consider these trials pure joy
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How much and how often do you run ? That is one of the reasons for my quit. been running for 4 years, not getting any better and was wondering if the dip had anything to do with it.
Too early for me to tell after 11 days if my running has improved.
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How much and how often do you run ? That is one of the reasons for my quit. been running for 4 years, not getting any better and was wondering if the dip had anything to do with it.
Too early for me to tell after 11 days if my running has improved.
Actually, I don't run at all. I've been trying to though. I've gained a ton of weight over the past year and don't have a gym membership, so running is about all I've got. I just need to get out and do it. As for the 5k, I get conned into one about once or twice a year through work or the wife...I know, pathetic.
How far do you normally run? Any motivational tips?
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The weekend of day 38 - 39:
I started coming down with something flu like on Friday afternoon. Not good considering we had committed to a 5k Saturday morning. I've been trying to stay down earlier in a sick period recently because I normally will ignore it and continue about my life until it gets so bad that I literally can't get out of bed. Not smart but I never claimed brilliance. So that combined with chasing the kid everywhere both days, I wasnÂ’t doing so hot most of the weekend.
Now that’s a great thing for any kind of craves, but a horrible thing for my extremely short temper. Surprisingly, everything went well all of Saturday and most of Sunday. Then Sunday evening, I go and interject my “perfect” opinion about our child’s schedule that is obviously way better than my wife’s, even though she spends all day every day with this beautiful child. Long story short, I ended up snapping, then her pregnant hormones kicked in and she starting crying. I don’t handle crying very well so I cussed myself and used the wall and front door as a punching bag for my head. Explain to me how that’s smart…
“I’m pissed so I’m gonna go hit my head on the door” Idiot.
I left the room quicker this time, cooled down quicker, apologized quicker, and everything was back to “normal” quicker so I see progress and I know that this time in our life is passing. I’m able to recognize what’s going on a lot faster and deal with it correctly.
I got to work this morning and sat down to read the Bible and was directed to James. Whether you believe in Christ or not, this will help, so listen up:
“Consider it pure joy, my brothers, whenever you face trials of many kinds, because you know that the testing of your faith develops perseverance. Perseverance must finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything.”
-James 1:2-4
Of course, “Embrace the suck”! I bet some of ya’ll didn’t know ya’ll were being Biblical! Love this time! We are being tested! Out of any testing, no matter the subject, if we hold fast and weather the storm with a smile, we will come out of it stronger, more mature, and more complete. Every time I see that forehead shaped dent in the wall, I will smile and say, "thanks for making that so difficult nicotine, now I will NEVER return to you"
Carry on my brothers, and consider these trials pure joyÂ…
Love this. Great post and proud to be quit with you. Have a great day and Holy Week. I quit with you today.
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How much and how often do you run ? That is one of the reasons for my quit. been running for 4 years, not getting any better and was wondering if the dip had anything to do with it.
Too early for me to tell after 11 days if my running has improved.
Actually, I don't run at all. I've been trying to though. I've gained a ton of weight over the past year and don't have a gym membership, so running is about all I've got. I just need to get out and do it. As for the 5k, I get conned into one about once or twice a year through work or the wife...I know, pathetic.
How far do you normally run? Any motivational tips?
We run 3-4 times a week between 5k - 14k each time. Still learning how to train properly.
Tips ? #1 for me is get some music. Something that inspires you or makes you feel good. Don't go too fast as a beginner. Common mistake. Run for 1 minute, walk for 1 minute. As you get better, change the ratio to more run less walk.
It's a bit of a grind for first 2-4 weeks, but eventually you will get out there on a sunny day, good music playing and you will hit your groove. You will feel like you can run forever.
I lost 26 pounds in a little over a year.
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Day 40 - Recognized early frustration symptoms and removed myself from my budget meeting with my wife. We were in good communication about it the whole time (crucial) and I was able to calm down and play with my daughter before I ever got really stirred up. SUCCESS!
On another note, I started mixing a little workout routine into playing on the floor with the kiddo. While she was climbing all over me, I just lifted my legs 3 inches off the floor, then played a "peek a boo" game with pushups and then threw in some planking (which I always thought was gay, until I tried it). I also want to mix in some stroller runs on a daily basis. I gotta knock some of this fat off!
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Day 40 - Recognized early frustration symptoms and removed myself from my budget meeting with my wife. We were in good communication about it the whole time (crucial) and I was able to calm down and play with my daughter before I ever got really stirred up. SUCCESS!
On another note, I started mixing a little workout routine into playing on the floor with the kiddo. While she was climbing all over me, I just lifted my legs 3 inches off the floor, then played a "peek a boo" game with pushups and then threw in some planking (which I always thought was gay, until I tried it). I also want to mix in some stroller runs on a daily basis. I gotta knock some of this fat off!
Good work. Things are definitely getting a little better every day. Stay on guard. Probably the worst part of this entire quit has been the 10-12 pounds I have put on. I work out pretty regularly too but been substituting food, candy, whatever and the result has been 10-12 pounds. Just another reason to hate Copenshit and to never go back. Zero positives!!!
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This is a really really bad night and I can't pinpoint ANYTHING to describe what it is. All I know for sure is that my lip is on fire, and I've been curled up in the fetal position for the last 15 minutes while my wife plans our anniversary evening tomorrow because I haven't done any planning at all. She has no idea what's going on and is trying to understand but can't and I don't blame her. I feel like shit because I can't give her anything to attribute this too. What the hell is wrong with me?!?!
Edit: This is ENTIRELY in my control and I will not let it ruin me or my family. Nicotine, you are a bitch. I will not let you control my body. Derek, get up off your sorry ass and get back to living!
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This is a really really bad night and I can't pinpoint ANYTHING to describe what it is. All I know for sure is that my lip is on fire, and I've been curled up in the fetal position for the last 15 minutes while my wife plans our anniversary evening tomorrow because I haven't done any planning at all. She has no idea what's going on and is trying to understand but can't and I don't blame her. I feel like shit because I can't give her anything to attribute this too. What the hell is wrong with me?!?!
Edit: This is ENTIRELY in my control and I will not let it ruin me or my family. Nicotine, you are a bitch. I will not let you control my body. Derek, get up off your sorry ass and get back to living!
I grounded myself about the same time.
It was brutal.
The nic bitch knows you are serious. She's thought you've been kidding this whole time, and now she's getting frustrated. She's thrown all her crazy at you, and it fucking hurts.
But you are doing the right thing my man.
Like I said, I grounded myself and laid there in a fetal position. I also wrote this:
Return of the living dead: Zombies and addiction (http://quit4today.com/blog/2011/08/the-return-of-the-living-dead-addiction-and-the-undead/)
I posted here.
It passes my man. Call me if you need anything. I'm up working at the office again.
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Days 57-60. I went camping for 3 nights. It's been a terribly long time since I've been camping without 3 things. Dip, cigars, and beer. Well, now it's been an incredibly short amount of time since I've been camping without those things.
Who would've thought that you could get your truck un stuck without what I used to consider to be "thinkers". I would like to ask, how exactly does nicotine and alcohol help you think? It doesn't. That was the child in my talking back then. What an idiot.
Well, I'm an idiot no more. I ventured out, camped, and had nothing but coffee and bottled IBC root beer to get me through and you know what? I really didn't even need that. It can be done. Man up kiddos.
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My thoughts on dip:
It's amazing at how the major tobacco companies have made dippers out to be this "elite group" of "real men"...
I got to thinking about my boss, who dips skoal wintergreen. If I had known 93 days ago, I would have instantly felt some sort of invisible bond with him. There would have been that underlying tone of "Yeah dude, we're a couple of badasses and these other idiots don't know what they're missing".
I felt that way with anybody with the ring in their pocket. It didn't matter if I knew them or not, I just knew that they were cool. We would get along. Even more so if they dipped copenhagen, because the rest of you dippers are pussies.
I can't tell you how many people would say "Oh. No, I'm not man enough to dip cope. I'll stay with my kodiak apple." Or some nasty shit, and I would swell up with pride because I felt like I was more of a man than that dude. Well, it's ALL NASTY, and I was nothing compared to the man I am now, having beaten this shit for 93 days!
One amazing thing about nic is that you really can't see the truth until you get on this side of the quit.
Trust me, trust us...life is better without nicotine!
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My thoughts on dip:
It's amazing at how the major tobacco companies have made dippers out to be this "elite group" of "real men"...
I got to thinking about my boss, who dips skoal wintergreen. If I had known 93 days ago, I would have instantly felt some sort of invisible bond with him. There would have been that underlying tone of "Yeah dude, we're a couple of badasses and these other idiots don't know what they're missing".
I felt that way with anybody with the ring in their pocket. It didn't matter if I knew them or not, I just knew that they were cool. We would get along. Even more so if they dipped copenhagen, because the rest of you dippers are pussies.
I can't tell you how many people would say "Oh. No, I'm not man enough to dip cope. I'll stay with my kodiak apple." Or some nasty shit, and I would swell up with pride because I felt like I was more of a man than that dude. Well, it's ALL NASTY, and I was nothing compared to the man I am now, having beaten this shit for 93 days!
One amazing thing about nic is that you really can't see the truth until you get on this side of the quit.
Trust me, trust us...life is better without nicotine!
I may be unemployed, but I know a solid post when I see one.
Welcome to Quit Like Fuck Land.
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My thoughts on dip:
It's amazing at how the major tobacco companies have made dippers out to be this "elite group" of "real men"...
I got to thinking about my boss, who dips skoal wintergreen. If I had known 93 days ago, I would have instantly felt some sort of invisible bond with him. There would have been that underlying tone of "Yeah dude, we're a couple of badasses and these other idiots don't know what they're missing".
I felt that way with anybody with the ring in their pocket. It didn't matter if I knew them or not, I just knew that they were cool. We would get along. Even more so if they dipped copenhagen, because the rest of you dippers are pussies.
I can't tell you how many people would say "Oh. No, I'm not man enough to dip cope. I'll stay with my kodiak apple." Or some nasty shit, and I would swell up with pride because I felt like I was more of a man than that dude. Well, it's ALL NASTY, and I was nothing compared to the man I am now, having beaten this shit for 93 days!
One amazing thing about nic is that you really can't see the truth until you get on this side of the quit.
Trust me, trust us...life is better without nicotine!
I may be unemployed, but I know a solid post when I see one.
Welcome to Quit Like Fuck Land.
You forgot that you are also a psychopath coach, but we all know that you can't be crazy if you admit that you're crazy. Otherwise, you'd be sane.
But, yeah...I think this angry guy has head on straight and I'm really proud of him.
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My thoughts on dip:
It's amazing at how the major tobacco companies have made dippers out to be this "elite group" of "real men"...
I got to thinking about my boss, who dips skoal wintergreen. If I had known 93 days ago, I would have instantly felt some sort of invisible bond with him. There would have been that underlying tone of "Yeah dude, we're a couple of badasses and these other idiots don't know what they're missing".
I felt that way with anybody with the ring in their pocket. It didn't matter if I knew them or not, I just knew that they were cool. We would get along. Even more so if they dipped copenhagen, because the rest of you dippers are pussies.
I can't tell you how many people would say "Oh. No, I'm not man enough to dip cope. I'll stay with my kodiak apple." Or some nasty shit, and I would swell up with pride because I felt like I was more of a man than that dude. Well, it's ALL NASTY, and I was nothing compared to the man I am now, having beaten this shit for 93 days!
One amazing thing about nic is that you really can't see the truth until you get on this side of the quit.
Trust me, trust us...life is better without nicotine!
Nice post brother, well said. Good shit on a Friday afternoon!!!!
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My thoughts on dip:
It's amazing at how the major tobacco companies have made dippers out to be this "elite group" of "real men"...
I got to thinking about my boss, who dips skoal wintergreen. If I had known 93 days ago, I would have instantly felt some sort of invisible bond with him. There would have been that underlying tone of "Yeah dude, we're a couple of badasses and these other idiots don't know what they're missing".
I felt that way with anybody with the ring in their pocket. It didn't matter if I knew them or not, I just knew that they were cool. We would get along. Even more so if they dipped copenhagen, because the rest of you dippers are pussies.
I can't tell you how many people would say "Oh. No, I'm not man enough to dip cope. I'll stay with my kodiak apple." Or some nasty shit, and I would swell up with pride because I felt like I was more of a man than that dude. Well, it's ALL NASTY, and I was nothing compared to the man I am now, having beaten this shit for 93 days!
One amazing thing about nic is that you really can't see the truth until you get on this side of the quit.
Trust me, trust us...life is better without nicotine!
Nice post brother, well said. Good shit on a Friday afternoon!!!!
Fuck yes! Damn straight and this gets my quit spirit going!
I want to go pick a fight with the tobacco industry.
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My thoughts on dip:
It's amazing at how the major tobacco companies have made dippers out to be this "elite group" of "real men"...
I got to thinking about my boss, who dips skoal wintergreen. If I had known 93 days ago, I would have instantly felt some sort of invisible bond with him. There would have been that underlying tone of "Yeah dude, we're a couple of badasses and these other idiots don't know what they're missing".
I felt that way with anybody with the ring in their pocket. It didn't matter if I knew them or not, I just knew that they were cool. We would get along. Even more so if they dipped copenhagen, because the rest of you dippers are pussies.
I can't tell you how many people would say "Oh. No, I'm not man enough to dip cope. I'll stay with my kodiak apple." Or some nasty shit, and I would swell up with pride because I felt like I was more of a man than that dude. Well, it's ALL NASTY, and I was nothing compared to the man I am now, having beaten this shit for 93 days!
One amazing thing about nic is that you really can't see the truth until you get on this side of the quit.
Trust me, trust us...life is better without nicotine!
I may be unemployed, but I know a solid post when I see one.
Welcome to Quit Like Fuck Land.
You forgot that you are also a psychopath coach, but we all know that you can't be crazy if you admit that you're crazy. Otherwise, you'd be sane.
But, yeah...I think this angry guy has head on straight and I'm really proud of him.
Thanks Waste, that means a lot man.
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My thoughts on dip:
It's amazing at how the major tobacco companies have made dippers out to be this "elite group" of "real men"...
I got to thinking about my boss, who dips skoal wintergreen. If I had known 93 days ago, I would have instantly felt some sort of invisible bond with him. There would have been that underlying tone of "Yeah dude, we're a couple of badasses and these other idiots don't know what they're missing".
I felt that way with anybody with the ring in their pocket. It didn't matter if I knew them or not, I just knew that they were cool. We would get along. Even more so if they dipped copenhagen, because the rest of you dippers are pussies.
I can't tell you how many people would say "Oh. No, I'm not man enough to dip cope. I'll stay with my kodiak apple." Or some nasty shit, and I would swell up with pride because I felt like I was more of a man than that dude. Well, it's ALL NASTY, and I was nothing compared to the man I am now, having beaten this shit for 93 days!
One amazing thing about nic is that you really can't see the truth until you get on this side of the quit.
Trust me, trust us...life is better without nicotine!
Great post and I love your camping post. You are one badass quitter and I'm proud to be QLF with ya. Stay strong brother - first major milestone is only days away. Looking forward to joining you in the hall.
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Day 109 - feel a funk coming on. Posting my thoughts during a funk always seems to help, so I thought I post before I hit full-blown funk. As many have said, I think I'm hitting the post HOF funk. Lost of excitement leading up, including the Boston Meet. I am looking forward to receiving my HOF coin, but other than that I'm 91 days to the 2nd floor. I seem to be in a rut. I am too busy to be able to reach out and do more than post roll in the new groups, but I want to do more. Frustrating! Trouble sleeping in the heat lately, plus staying up late watching the Celtics. Tired! Job chaos starting to ratchet up a notch. Stress! All good flavors of my previous funks. At least I have all you crazy quitters. I feel like I have drifted away a bit. Time for me to make more time for KFC, I mean KTC (sorry, it's lunch time).
Stay close, stay strong, stay quit.
There, that helps a little.
A little reminder of what you may soon be encountering, Brother. Tomorrow is a BIG day, but once it's here, it's just one day, and the only one that counts. I just realized how close our quit dates are on the calendar (give or take a few years).
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Day 109 - feel a funk coming on. Posting my thoughts during a funk always seems to help, so I thought I post before I hit full-blown funk. As many have said, I think I'm hitting the post HOF funk. Lost of excitement leading up, including the Boston Meet. I am looking forward to receiving my HOF coin, but other than that I'm 91 days to the 2nd floor. I seem to be in a rut. I am too busy to be able to reach out and do more than post roll in the new groups, but I want to do more. Frustrating! Trouble sleeping in the heat lately, plus staying up late watching the Celtics. Tired! Job chaos starting to ratchet up a notch. Stress! All good flavors of my previous funks. At least I have all you crazy quitters. I feel like I have drifted away a bit. Time for me to make more time for KFC, I mean KTC (sorry, it's lunch time).
Stay close, stay strong, stay quit.
There, that helps a little.
A little reminder of what you may soon be encountering, Brother. Tomorrow is a BIG day, but once it's here, it's just one day, and the only one that counts. I just realized how close our quit dates are on the calendar (give or take a few years).
Thanks Visa. I've heard a lot of people fall out around that funk. Not me, because it's not gonna sneak up on me. I still say recognition is the biggest part of beating any crave or funk. As long as you know it's the bitch sneaking up on you, you can fight her.
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THIS (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uPzBiwl1X4&feature=autoplay&list=ULY9Omtvdfh2U&playnext=1) is the kind of passion we need to show for the quit!
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I posted this in my group, but wanted to have it on my personal thread too. Feel free to comment...
Hey guys, there's some conversation going on in other groups about drifters. Obviously we've had a bunch here, including me. I was gone for about 15 days. I got burnt out, I wasn't helping anyone else, and I didn't see coming and posting roll helping me much with 250+ under my belt. I thought I should share some of my "away time" experience with ya'll.
I don't know if this is just coincidence or not, but I doubt it: for a good 10 of those days, I had cravings like I was back in the first month. I don't know what it was. I couldn't pin it to anything. I wasn't stressed, I didn't have any triggers that I haven't handled daily for the past 265 days, or anything. It was weird and it SUCKED. My lip was on FIRE and I couldn't find "myself". I went back to coffee grounds for a few days, and even had my first dip dream (now I know why everyone hates those).
The point is, I'm back, and I'm not going anywhere again.
Has anyone else had trouble in these mid 200's?
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I posted this in my group, but wanted to have it on my personal thread too. Feel free to comment...
Hey guys, there's some conversation going on in other groups about drifters. Obviously we've had a bunch here, including me. I was gone for about 15 days. I got burnt out, I wasn't helping anyone else, and I didn't see coming and posting roll helping me much with 250+ under my belt. I thought I should share some of my "away time" experience with ya'll.
I don't know if this is just coincidence or not, but I doubt it: for a good 10 of those days, I had cravings like I was back in the first month. I don't know what it was. I couldn't pin it to anything. I wasn't stressed, I didn't have any triggers that I haven't handled daily for the past 265 days, or anything. It was weird and it SUCKED. My lip was on FIRE and I couldn't find "myself". I went back to coffee grounds for a few days, and even had my first dip dream (now I know why everyone hates those).
The point is, I'm back, and I'm not going anywhere again.
Has anyone else had trouble in these mid 200's?
Yep, I felt like I just read a post about me. I made sure to post every day. (I promised my wife I would.)
I didn't do anything else. Never went into the intro's, new groups or cared. I think the burn out is legitimate and yes another trigger.
I am struggling with church. Much like KTC. I have done it over and over, the excitement for it has moved into a boredom. However, like KTC, I am a better person if I stick with the repetition of it all.
245 days. 211-225 sucked ass like I was back into my first week. Tsmith, Froman, Stitch and WT kept on me or I know I would have posted a day one. Over the last couple days, I have spent more time reading and caring. I read some post from the All Stars and realized that I actually missed them. Maybe it all is about phases. Like the weather...there must be patterns of quit. When it rains, you know sunshine is going to follow.
The support is needed and wanted. Maybe KTC is like the hotel california. Addicts can check out for a bit but we should never leave.
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I posted this in my group, but wanted to have it on my personal thread too. Feel free to comment...
Hey guys, there's some conversation going on in other groups about drifters. Obviously we've had a bunch here, including me. I was gone for about 15 days. I got burnt out, I wasn't helping anyone else, and I didn't see coming and posting roll helping me much with 250+ under my belt. I thought I should share some of my "away time" experience with ya'll.
I don't know if this is just coincidence or not, but I doubt it: for a good 10 of those days, I had cravings like I was back in the first month. I don't know what it was. I couldn't pin it to anything. I wasn't stressed, I didn't have any triggers that I haven't handled daily for the past 265 days, or anything. It was weird and it SUCKED. My lip was on FIRE and I couldn't find "myself". I went back to coffee grounds for a few days, and even had my first dip dream (now I know why everyone hates those).
The point is, I'm back, and I'm not going anywhere again.
Has anyone else had trouble in these mid 200's?
Yep, I felt like I just read a post about me. I made sure to post every day. (I promised my wife I would.)
I didn't do anything else. Never went into the intro's, new groups or cared. I think the burn out is legitimate and yes another trigger.
I am struggling with church. Much like KTC. I have done it over and over, the excitement for it has moved into a boredom. However, like KTC, I am a better person if I stick with the repetition of it all.
245 days. 211-225 sucked ass like I was back into my first week. Tsmith, Froman, Stitch and WT kept on me or I know I would have posted a day one. Over the last couple days, I have spent more time reading and caring. I read some post from the All Stars and realized that I actually missed them. Maybe it all is about phases. Like the weather...there must be patterns of quit. When it rains, you know sunshine is going to follow.
The support is needed and wanted. Maybe KTC is like the hotel california. Addicts can check out for a bit but we should never leave.
You will get burnt out. I've seen it happen. It just happened to me. When that happens, it is more important than ever to make sure YOU post. Posting support, reading B.S. on the boards, or anything. None of that matters as much as taking care of yourself. It has been said millions of times on here. Post roll and leave the rest when you need to.
If I had been gone for a while like you, I would expect to have gone through the exact same thing. Posting roll everyday is my safety net. If ever I get an out of no-where, smack you in the face craving, I always think about how it is not even an option because I posted roll. It is always fine to be less involved around here, but there is never a reason to not AT A MINIMUM post your own roll every day. Stay quit brother and glad you're back.
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I posted this in my group, but wanted to have it on my personal thread too. Feel free to comment...
Hey guys, there's some conversation going on in other groups about drifters. Obviously we've had a bunch here, including me. I was gone for about 15 days. I got burnt out, I wasn't helping anyone else, and I didn't see coming and posting roll helping me much with 250+ under my belt. I thought I should share some of my "away time" experience with ya'll.
I don't know if this is just coincidence or not, but I doubt it: for a good 10 of those days, I had cravings like I was back in the first month. I don't know what it was. I couldn't pin it to anything. I wasn't stressed, I didn't have any triggers that I haven't handled daily for the past 265 days, or anything. It was weird and it SUCKED. My lip was on FIRE and I couldn't find "myself". I went back to coffee grounds for a few days, and even had my first dip dream (now I know why everyone hates those).
The point is, I'm back, and I'm not going anywhere again.
Has anyone else had trouble in these mid 200's?
Yep, I felt like I just read a post about me. I made sure to post every day. (I promised my wife I would.)
I didn't do anything else. Never went into the intro's, new groups or cared. I think the burn out is legitimate and yes another trigger.
I am struggling with church. Much like KTC. I have done it over and over, the excitement for it has moved into a boredom. However, like KTC, I am a better person if I stick with the repetition of it all.
245 days. 211-225 sucked ass like I was back into my first week. Tsmith, Froman, Stitch and WT kept on me or I know I would have posted a day one. Over the last couple days, I have spent more time reading and caring. I read some post from the All Stars and realized that I actually missed them. Maybe it all is about phases. Like the weather...there must be patterns of quit. When it rains, you know sunshine is going to follow.
The support is needed and wanted. Maybe KTC is like the hotel california. Addicts can check out for a bit but we should never leave.
You will get burnt out. I've seen it happen. It just happened to me. When that happens, it is more important than ever to make sure YOU post. Posting support, reading B.S. on the boards, or anything. None of that matters as much as taking care of yourself. It has been said millions of times on here. Post roll and leave the rest when you need to.
If I had been gone for a while like you, I would expect to have gone through the exact same thing. Posting roll everyday is my safety net. If ever I get an out of no-where, smack you in the face craving, I always think about how it is not even an option because I posted roll. It is always fine to be less involved around here, but there is never a reason to not AT A MINIMUM post your own roll every day. Stay quit brother and glad you're back.
Three of my KTP brothers, laying down so much truth.
Thank you gentlemen. Right now, I'm in a huge burn out. I haven't been in a new group except to open it. Its hard, but I keep coming back for the tiight bonds I've made.
I hope at some point, I will have time to help newer guys, but my Quits right now are held close to the vest. Nothing wrong with that.
1. Post Roll every day.
2. Keep your word.
3. Repeat.
Its working for me, but thank you all for being here.
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I posted this in my group, but wanted to have it on my personal thread too. Feel free to comment...
Hey guys, there's some conversation going on in other groups about drifters. Obviously we've had a bunch here, including me. I was gone for about 15 days. I got burnt out, I wasn't helping anyone else, and I didn't see coming and posting roll helping me much with 250+ under my belt. I thought I should share some of my "away time" experience with ya'll.
I don't know if this is just coincidence or not, but I doubt it: for a good 10 of those days, I had cravings like I was back in the first month. I don't know what it was. I couldn't pin it to anything. I wasn't stressed, I didn't have any triggers that I haven't handled daily for the past 265 days, or anything. It was weird and it SUCKED. My lip was on FIRE and I couldn't find "myself". I went back to coffee grounds for a few days, and even had my first dip dream (now I know why everyone hates those).
The point is, I'm back, and I'm not going anywhere again.
Has anyone else had trouble in these mid 200's?
Yep, I felt like I just read a post about me. I made sure to post every day. (I promised my wife I would.)
I didn't do anything else. Never went into the intro's, new groups or cared. I think the burn out is legitimate and yes another trigger.
I am struggling with church. Much like KTC. I have done it over and over, the excitement for it has moved into a boredom. However, like KTC, I am a better person if I stick with the repetition of it all.
245 days. 211-225 sucked ass like I was back into my first week. Tsmith, Froman, Stitch and WT kept on me or I know I would have posted a day one. Over the last couple days, I have spent more time reading and caring. I read some post from the All Stars and realized that I actually missed them. Maybe it all is about phases. Like the weather...there must be patterns of quit. When it rains, you know sunshine is going to follow.
The support is needed and wanted. Maybe KTC is like the hotel california. Addicts can check out for a bit but we should never leave.
You will get burnt out. I've seen it happen. It just happened to me. When that happens, it is more important than ever to make sure YOU post. Posting support, reading B.S. on the boards, or anything. None of that matters as much as taking care of yourself. It has been said millions of times on here. Post roll and leave the rest when you need to.
If I had been gone for a while like you, I would expect to have gone through the exact same thing. Posting roll everyday is my safety net. If ever I get an out of no-where, smack you in the face craving, I always think about how it is not even an option because I posted roll. It is always fine to be less involved around here, but there is never a reason to not AT A MINIMUM post your own roll every day. Stay quit brother and glad you're back.
Three of my KTP brothers, laying down so much truth.
Thank you gentlemen. Right now, I'm in a huge burn out. I haven't been in a new group except to open it. Its hard, but I keep coming back for the tiight bonds I've made.
I hope at some point, I will have time to help newer guys, but my Quits right now are held close to the vest. Nothing wrong with that.
1. Post Roll every day.
2. Keep your word.
3. Repeat.
Its working for me, but thank you all for being here.
Posting everyday is what has gotten you and all of us to this point.... You might not be as active but you can and should post everyday.
Great stuff working here I truly hope some newbies get to read this as well as some more vets!
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I posted this in my group, but wanted to have it on my personal thread too. Feel free to comment...
Hey guys, there's some conversation going on in other groups about drifters. Obviously we've had a bunch here, including me. I was gone for about 15 days. I got burnt out, I wasn't helping anyone else, and I didn't see coming and posting roll helping me much with 250+ under my belt. I thought I should share some of my "away time" experience with ya'll.
I don't know if this is just coincidence or not, but I doubt it: for a good 10 of those days, I had cravings like I was back in the first month. I don't know what it was. I couldn't pin it to anything. I wasn't stressed, I didn't have any triggers that I haven't handled daily for the past 265 days, or anything. It was weird and it SUCKED. My lip was on FIRE and I couldn't find "myself". I went back to coffee grounds for a few days, and even had my first dip dream (now I know why everyone hates those).
The point is, I'm back, and I'm not going anywhere again.
Has anyone else had trouble in these mid 200's?
Yep, I felt like I just read a post about me. I made sure to post every day. (I promised my wife I would.)
I didn't do anything else. Never went into the intro's, new groups or cared. I think the burn out is legitimate and yes another trigger.
I am struggling with church. Much like KTC. I have done it over and over, the excitement for it has moved into a boredom. However, like KTC, I am a better person if I stick with the repetition of it all.
245 days. 211-225 sucked ass like I was back into my first week. Tsmith, Froman, Stitch and WT kept on me or I know I would have posted a day one. Over the last couple days, I have spent more time reading and caring. I read some post from the All Stars and realized that I actually missed them. Maybe it all is about phases. Like the weather...there must be patterns of quit. When it rains, you know sunshine is going to follow.
The support is needed and wanted. Maybe KTC is like the hotel california. Addicts can check out for a bit but we should never leave.
You will get burnt out. I've seen it happen. It just happened to me. When that happens, it is more important than ever to make sure YOU post. Posting support, reading B.S. on the boards, or anything. None of that matters as much as taking care of yourself. It has been said millions of times on here. Post roll and leave the rest when you need to.
If I had been gone for a while like you, I would expect to have gone through the exact same thing. Posting roll everyday is my safety net. If ever I get an out of no-where, smack you in the face craving, I always think about how it is not even an option because I posted roll. It is always fine to be less involved around here, but there is never a reason to not AT A MINIMUM post your own roll every day. Stay quit brother and glad you're back.
Three of my KTP brothers, laying down so much truth.
Thank you gentlemen. Right now, I'm in a huge burn out. I haven't been in a new group except to open it. Its hard, but I keep coming back for the tiight bonds I've made.
I hope at some point, I will have time to help newer guys, but my Quits right now are held close to the vest. Nothing wrong with that.
1. Post Roll every day.
2. Keep your word.
3. Repeat.
Its working for me, but thank you all for being here.
Posting everyday is what has gotten you and all of us to this point.... You might not be as active but you can and should post everyday.
Great stuff working here I truly hope some newbies get to read this as well as some more vets!
It's always good to know you're not alone.
I appreciate the heck out of the 4 of you guys!