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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: JoeSchmoe on January 13, 2012, 11:37:00 AM
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Hello,
I'm a 33 year old who has been an "on and off" dipper since I was 22. I have tried innumerable times to quit. I used to think I was never "addicted," but I have finally admitted that I am an addict. I have been with my wife for over 8 years, and I've spent those years constantly hiding my secret addiction. I've gone to what I consider extreme lengths to dip, which I have always been fully aware could eventually kill me.
I have spent hours of my life standing in front of a mirror, looking for that first sign of cancer. I have tormented myself with worry over little spots of mucosal irritation, or sore throats that won't stop. I'll stop dipping for a few weeks, and then as soon as I feel like my mouth is back to normal, I'll get stressed or happy (!) and then want to dip again. I've lived this ridiculous cycle for over a decade!
I am so tired of it.
My wife and I are welcoming our first child this summer. I have decided that the first gift I am giving this kid is a father who is not a complete idiot. I have to stop. For good.
I have read this site and I am so happy to find like-minded people that have dealt with the exact struggles I am experiencing.
Thank you.
I will keep reading and using this site to help support me through this as I try to extricate my stupid self from this addiction.
Joseph
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I am 33 as well, and my wife and I have been married 8 years. Join me in this journey! Day 3 for me! Fight the good fight!
I have chewed for almost 20 years, and I truly enjoyed dipping. I miss it a lot, but I value my life more. It's a tough thing to give up. I have a long ways to go, but with everyone's help I am sure the both of us can be successful!
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Welcome Joe,
We are a no bullshit qroup of quitters here. We post roll first thing each morning and give our word that we will not use nicotine for that day. We keep our word for that day and then repeat the process the next.
Don't worry about anything other than that. One day at a time. Accountability to eachother makes it work.
Read everything you can. Post roll. Stay quit.
MattMan
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Great choice, Joe. I can relate to your comment about not considering yourself addicted. I would quit for a few days just to "make sure I could." I also told myself that if I took small dips, it was okay. Or that it would help if I moved it around. I was a fucking idiot. (Maybe still am, but I'm now a nic-free idiot).
You've taken the first step. We're here to help with the rest. Just post roll, keep your word and repeat. You can't change the past, but you can sure as shit decide to change your future.
Post roll, read all you can on this site, HOF posts, testimonials. Excercise, drink water, eat candy...whatever. But don't go back. Welcome to freedom.
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Hello,
I'm a 33 year old who has been an "on and off" dipper since I was 22. I have tried innumerable times to quit. I used to think I was never "addicted," but I have finally admitted that I am an addict. I have been with my wife for over 8 years, and I've spent those years constantly hiding my secret addiction. I've gone to what I consider extreme lengths to dip, which I have always been fully aware could eventually kill me.
I have spent hours of my life standing in front of a mirror, looking for that first sign of cancer. I have tormented myself with worry over little spots of mucosal irritation, or sore throats that won't stop. I'll stop dipping for a few weeks, and then as soon as I feel like my mouth is back to normal, I'll get stressed or happy (!) and then want to dip again. I've lived this ridiculous cycle for over a decade!
I am so tired of it.
My wife and I are welcoming our first child this summer. I have decided that the first gift I am giving this kid is a father who is not a complete idiot. I have to stop. For good.
I have read this site and I am so happy to find like-minded people that have dealt with the exact struggles I am experiencing.
Thank you.
I will keep reading and using this site to help support me through this as I try to extricate my stupid self from this addiction.
Joseph
You'll find many on this site who are in the same boat as you. And, if you read some old intros, you'll find many are still in the same boat as you were yesterday - because they quit and caved. So many people decide to quit because they have a child on the way or thier wife is fed up with it or it's a new year's resolution...
It's rare when those reasons result in a successful quit. Congratulations on your new addition to the family. Saving your life is a great gift to give your child. But please quit this awful addiction for yourself. You can quit for your unborn child and your wife, but you also MUST quit for yourself.
You've been selfish for over a decade by putting that shit in your mouth. Now it's time to be selfish again - but for the right reasons. Do this for you. You can quit. There is no secret to how this gets done. You make your promise and you keep your word. There are no tomorrows.
Welcome to our world. It's glorious here. The sun is always shining, the water's always fresh and the bitch can't find us.
Congratulations on taking your life back. No go ahead and be selfish.
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Thanks for the support. This quit is definitely about me. I can tell you I've already noticed (and am enjoying!!) the complete absence of the self-hating inner monologue that would usually occur on a daily basis, generally after sitting at my desk for an hour with a mouth full of shit.
This website is fantastic. It is great inspiration. Thanks again.
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Your story reminds me of me. Welcome aboard.
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Your story reminds me of me. Welcome aboard.
And me. Have a seat at the table Joe. You're life is about to change. Now that you made that decision, your better days are AHEAD of you. I'm a 30yr addict. You think YOU have issues.... If I can do this, YOU can do this. Give it all you got Bro. Take your life back RIGHT NOW.
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I am so tired of it.
You are ready.
Burn your boat. Burn it now. There is no tomorrow.
You can do this.
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Good work Joe. Sounds like me as well. Bunch of sneaky, douche ninjas we are.
Glad to be quit with you today. Enjoyed my first vacation with my family this weekend without nicotine. Complete liberation! Proud of you, man. Keep your word. I'll keep mine.
PMac
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douche ninjas
Ha! That nails it! I have been super stealth with my douchebaggery for too many years. Thanks for making my laugh. I needed it.
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Wanted to update you guys. I've been QUIT since 1/13. Still going strong with no problem. I know I haven't been posting roll call everyday, but just the fact that I know this community exists and there are people out there that are struggling with this addiction and beating it helps maintain me each day.
Staying QUIT,
Joseph
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Wanted to update you guys. I've been QUIT since 1/13. Still going strong with no problem. I know I haven't been posting roll call everyday, but just the fact that I know this community exists and there are people out there that are struggling with this addiction and beating it helps maintain me each day.
Staying QUIT,
Joseph
Thanks Joe. Just knowing you are out there gaining strength from knowing we are out here just gives me strength just knowing you are out there gaining strength from us.
Jackass.
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Wanted to update you guys. I've been QUIT since 1/13. Still going strong with no problem. I know I haven't been posting roll call everyday, but just the fact that I know this community exists and there are people out there that are struggling with this addiction and beating it helps maintain me each day.
Staying QUIT,
Joseph
Thanks Joe. Just knowing you are out there gaining strength from knowing we are out here just gives me strength just knowing you are out there gaining strength from us.
Jackass.
Joe, has anyone mentioned that this site is not all about hugs, butterflies, and mystic soul-calming gurus?
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Wanted to update you guys. I've been QUIT since 1/13. Still going strong with no problem. I know I haven't been posting roll call everyday, but just the fact that I know this community exists and there are people out there that are struggling with this addiction and beating it helps maintain me each day.
Staying QUIT,
Joseph
Hey Joe, I'm craving like a mother fucker, can you help me out? You know, knowing your quit is help enough. Wait I don't know shit cus you didn't post roll, but I'm guessing you don't have my back. This is a group site, you are a selfish individual and you are just using us. Get with the program.
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Wanted to update you guys. I've been QUIT since 1/13. Still going strong with no problem. I know I haven't been posting roll call everyday, but just the fact that I know this community exists and there are people out there that are struggling with this addiction and beating it helps maintain me each day.
Staying QUIT,
Joseph
". . . with no problem."
That's got to be a load of bullshit. Lmfoa. Guys, no there is no need to feel like you were used. Joe took nothing from you. Nothing at all. You all offered him something, but he wasn't interested. He just wanted to talk, not listen.
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Ok...
Well, I just logged into this website since last February. For the record, I'm 331 days quit (saved over $265!). I won't say "without a problem” the entire time, but my quit has gone relatively well. However, I decided to check back in to get some inspiration to deal with some minor desires to relapse. Lo and behold, I see that my last post was not received very well. After reflecting on some of the responses, it is clear to me that yes, I have "used" this community, in the sense that I have used you all for inspiration to quit but never signed the roll call. I’m so sorry about that. Just know that I have even more reason to stay quit, and will continue to use you all.
Jackasses ;)
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Ok...
Well, I just logged into this website since last February. For the record, I'm 331 days quit (saved over $265!). I won't say "without a problem” the entire time, but my quit has gone relatively well. However, I decided to check back in to get some inspiration to deal with some minor desires to relapse. Lo and behold, I see that my last post was not received very well. After reflecting on some of the responses, it is clear to me that yes, I have "used" this community, in the sense that I have used you all for inspiration to quit but never signed the roll call. I’m so sorry about that. Just know that I have even more reason to stay quit, and will continue to use you all.
Jackasses ;)
331 days...impressive. You used this site to help you get there and now are back because you have some desire to relapse. Nice.
Did it ever occur to you to GIVE BACK , even a little, to the site and people that helped you quit? Did the thought ever cross your mind? Maybe sharing some of your experiences could have helped some of the guys struggling, especially the younger guys. Look back at the guys who reached out to you after your first intro post. I bet that felt good to be welcomed with that kind of response.
While Im glad your quit, I think you're a selfish bastard who really doesn't get this site. This is a brotherhood where we help eachother, a two way street, not a one way.
While there is no way anybody can MAKE you give back, speaking strictly for me, I honestly think you should be ashamed of yourself. Not only for using and not giving back but by popping back in after long periods and almost rubbing our noses in it. Like , "hey guys thanks for bearing your souls to me, it really helped me out, Im still quit though and will be back when I feel like using again. Later dudes".
That's fucking weak sauce in my book. Stop being a little bitch and think about giving back a little to the site and people that may have saved your life.
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Ok...
Well, I just logged into this website since last February. For the record, I'm 331 days quit (saved over $265!). I won't say "without a problem� the entire time, but my quit has gone relatively well. However, I decided to check back in to get some inspiration to deal with some minor desires to relapse. Lo and behold, I see that my last post was not received very well. After reflecting on some of the responses, it is clear to me that yes, I have "used" this community, in the sense that I have used you all for inspiration to quit but never signed the roll call. I�m so sorry about that. Just know that I have even more reason to stay quit, and will continue to use you all.
Jackasses ;)
331 days...impressive. You used this site to help you get there and now are back because you have some desire to relapse. Nice.
Did it ever occur to you to GIVE BACK , even a little, to the site and people that helped you quit? Did the thought ever cross your mind? Maybe sharing some of your experiences could have helped some of the guys struggling, especially the younger guys. Look back at the guys who reached out to you after your first intro post. I bet that felt good to be welcomed with that kind of response.
While Im glad your quit, I think you're a selfish bastard who really doesn't get this site. This is a brotherhood where we help eachother, a two way street, not a one way.
While there is no way anybody can MAKE you give back, speaking strictly for me, I honestly think you should be ashamed of yourself. Not only for using and not giving back but by popping back in after long periods and almost rubbing our noses in it. Like , "hey guys thanks for bearing your souls to me, it really helped me out, Im still quit though and will be back when I feel like using again. Later dudes".
That's fucking weak sauce in my book. Stop being a little bitch and think about giving back a little to the site and people that may have saved your life.
exactly where in the fuck can you go quit for nearly a year and have saved $265? What kind of fucked up math is that? What kind of fucked up person are you that you have the audacity to pop in and comment when you have been MIA for as long as you have. One would have thought at the very least you'd have the common decency to explain your absence in detail and your renewed commitment to your quit. No one here expects someone to give more than they are capable of giving, we do expect you to be respectful to everyone that does however. Your actions are purely selfish and are a disgrace.
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Ok...
Well, I just logged into this website since last February. For the record, I'm 331 days quit (saved over $265!). I won't say "without a problem� the entire time, but my quit has gone relatively well. However, I decided to check back in to get some inspiration to deal with some minor desires to relapse. Lo and behold, I see that my last post was not received very well. After reflecting on some of the responses, it is clear to me that yes, I have "used" this community, in the sense that I have used you all for inspiration to quit but never signed the roll call. I�m so sorry about that. Just know that I have even more reason to stay quit, and will continue to use you all.
Jackasses ;)
331 days...impressive. You used this site to help you get there and now are back because you have some desire to relapse. Nice.
Did it ever occur to you to GIVE BACK , even a little, to the site and people that helped you quit? Did the thought ever cross your mind? Maybe sharing some of your experiences could have helped some of the guys struggling, especially the younger guys. Look back at the guys who reached out to you after your first intro post. I bet that felt good to be welcomed with that kind of response.
While Im glad your quit, I think you're a selfish bastard who really doesn't get this site. This is a brotherhood where we help eachother, a two way street, not a one way.
While there is no way anybody can MAKE you give back, speaking strictly for me, I honestly think you should be ashamed of yourself. Not only for using and not giving back but by popping back in after long periods and almost rubbing our noses in it. Like , "hey guys thanks for bearing your souls to me, it really helped me out, Im still quit though and will be back when I feel like using again. Later dudes".
That's fucking weak sauce in my book. Stop being a little bitch and think about giving back a little to the site and people that may have saved your life.
exactly where in the fuck can you go quit for nearly a year and have saved $265? What kind of fucked up math is that? What kind of fucked up person are you that you have the audacity to pop in and comment when you have been MIA for as long as you have. One would have thought at the very least you'd have the common decency to explain your absence in detail and your renewed commitment to your quit. No one here expects someone to give more than they are capable of giving, we do expect you to be respectful to everyone that does however. Your actions are purely selfish and are a disgrace.
I suggest we delete this thread
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Ok...
Well, I just logged into this website since last February. For the record, I'm 331 days quit (saved over $265!). I won't say "without a problem� the entire time, but my quit has gone relatively well. However, I decided to check back in to get some inspiration to deal with some minor desires to relapse. Lo and behold, I see that my last post was not received very well. After reflecting on some of the responses, it is clear to me that yes, I have "used" this community, in the sense that I have used you all for inspiration to quit but never signed the roll call. I�m so sorry about that. Just know that I have even more reason to stay quit, and will continue to use you all.
Jackasses ;)
331 days...impressive. You used this site to help you get there and now are back because you have some desire to relapse. Nice.
Did it ever occur to you to GIVE BACK , even a little, to the site and people that helped you quit? Did the thought ever cross your mind? Maybe sharing some of your experiences could have helped some of the guys struggling, especially the younger guys. Look back at the guys who reached out to you after your first intro post. I bet that felt good to be welcomed with that kind of response.
While Im glad your quit, I think you're a selfish bastard who really doesn't get this site. This is a brotherhood where we help eachother, a two way street, not a one way.
While there is no way anybody can MAKE you give back, speaking strictly for me, I honestly think you should be ashamed of yourself. Not only for using and not giving back but by popping back in after long periods and almost rubbing our noses in it. Like , "hey guys thanks for bearing your souls to me, it really helped me out, Im still quit though and will be back when I feel like using again. Later dudes".
That's fucking weak sauce in my book. Stop being a little bitch and think about giving back a little to the site and people that may have saved your life.
exactly where in the fuck can you go quit for nearly a year and have saved $265? What kind of fucked up math is that? What kind of fucked up person are you that you have the audacity to pop in and comment when you have been MIA for as long as you have. One would have thought at the very least you'd have the common decency to explain your absence in detail and your renewed commitment to your quit. No one here expects someone to give more than they are capable of giving, we do expect you to be respectful to everyone that does however. Your actions are purely selfish and are a disgrace.
I suggest we delete this thread
Actually my intentions in returning to the forums now was to relay some of my experiences and struggles being quit, but after I was confronted by those reactions to my last post from February 2012, my motivation was lost. It seems like there is not much room around here for diversity in terms of dealing with oneÂ’s addiction. It turns out that I am not one who needs to post every day to the roll call. My bad. But I donÂ’t think I need to be treated so harshly for it. I still struggle with my addiction, and I would hope you all would continue to at least voice support for my efforts.
And the “fucked up math” came directly from this website’s calculator. I dipped 1 can about every 5 to 7 days. Multiply that by 331 days. Wait, make that 332 days.
IÂ’m not sure on what grounds this thread should be deleted, but I couldnÂ’t care less if it was.
Bye.
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Ok...
Well, I just logged into this website since last February. For the record, I'm 331 days quit (saved over $265!). I won't say "without a problem� the entire time, but my quit has gone relatively well. However, I decided to check back in to get some inspiration to deal with some minor desires to relapse. Lo and behold, I see that my last post was not received very well. After reflecting on some of the responses, it is clear to me that yes, I have "used" this community, in the sense that I have used you all for inspiration to quit but never signed the roll call. I�m so sorry about that. Just know that I have even more reason to stay quit, and will continue to use you all.
Jackasses ;)
331 days...impressive. You used this site to help you get there and now are back because you have some desire to relapse. Nice.
Did it ever occur to you to GIVE BACK , even a little, to the site and people that helped you quit? Did the thought ever cross your mind? Maybe sharing some of your experiences could have helped some of the guys struggling, especially the younger guys. Look back at the guys who reached out to you after your first intro post. I bet that felt good to be welcomed with that kind of response.
While Im glad your quit, I think you're a selfish bastard who really doesn't get this site. This is a brotherhood where we help eachother, a two way street, not a one way.
While there is no way anybody can MAKE you give back, speaking strictly for me, I honestly think you should be ashamed of yourself. Not only for using and not giving back but by popping back in after long periods and almost rubbing our noses in it. Like , "hey guys thanks for bearing your souls to me, it really helped me out, Im still quit though and will be back when I feel like using again. Later dudes".
That's fucking weak sauce in my book. Stop being a little bitch and think about giving back a little to the site and people that may have saved your life.
exactly where in the fuck can you go quit for nearly a year and have saved $265? What kind of fucked up math is that? What kind of fucked up person are you that you have the audacity to pop in and comment when you have been MIA for as long as you have. One would have thought at the very least you'd have the common decency to explain your absence in detail and your renewed commitment to your quit. No one here expects someone to give more than they are capable of giving, we do expect you to be respectful to everyone that does however. Your actions are purely selfish and are a disgrace.
I suggest we delete this thread
Actually my intentions in returning to the forums now was to relay some of my experiences and struggles being quit, but after I was confronted by those reactions to my last post from February 2012, my motivation was lost. It seems like there is not much room around here for diversity in terms of dealing with oneÂ’s addiction. It turns out that I am not one who needs to post every day to the roll call. My bad. But I donÂ’t think I need to be treated so harshly for it. I still struggle with my addiction, and I would hope you all would continue to at least voice support for my efforts.
And the “fucked up math” came directly from this website’s calculator. I dipped 1 can about every 5 to 7 days. Multiply that by 331 days. Wait, make that 332 days.
IÂ’m not sure on what grounds this thread should be deleted, but I couldnÂ’t care less if it was.
Bye.
You want us to support your efforts while you have supported NOBODY? Like I said, I'm glad you're quit but you're a selfish pussy.
Roll call is the backbone of this site. Evidently you're special and don't need it...great. What about giving back to others? Do you actually READ what people had written or just act like a little bitch and lie because you're feelings were hurt?
YOU said you were back to "GET some inspiration for your minor desire to relapse." You didn't say jack shit about sharing a single fucking thing until some people criticized you. I think you're full of shit.
This is a group site where people help eachother. Nobody is telling you to go back to the can, just that we don't appreciate being used and you pissing on the fundamental element this site was built on...posting role.
I hope you stay quit but how about showing some gratitude to the community that you used to help you quit and stop playing the victim like some pre teen little bitch who had her feelings hurt.
Seriously dude, grow a fucking pair.
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Ok...
Well, I just logged into this website since last February. For the record, I'm 331 days quit (saved over $265!). I won't say "without a problem� the entire time, but my quit has gone relatively well. However, I decided to check back in to get some inspiration to deal with some minor desires to relapse. Lo and behold, I see that my last post was not received very well. After reflecting on some of the responses, it is clear to me that yes, I have "used" this community, in the sense that I have used you all for inspiration to quit but never signed the roll call. I�m so sorry about that. Just know that I have even more reason to stay quit, and will continue to use you all.
Jackasses ;)
331 days...impressive. You used this site to help you get there and now are back because you have some desire to relapse. Nice.
Did it ever occur to you to GIVE BACK , even a little, to the site and people that helped you quit? Did the thought ever cross your mind? Maybe sharing some of your experiences could have helped some of the guys struggling, especially the younger guys. Look back at the guys who reached out to you after your first intro post. I bet that felt good to be welcomed with that kind of response.
While Im glad your quit, I think you're a selfish bastard who really doesn't get this site. This is a brotherhood where we help eachother, a two way street, not a one way.
While there is no way anybody can MAKE you give back, speaking strictly for me, I honestly think you should be ashamed of yourself. Not only for using and not giving back but by popping back in after long periods and almost rubbing our noses in it. Like , "hey guys thanks for bearing your souls to me, it really helped me out, Im still quit though and will be back when I feel like using again. Later dudes".
That's fucking weak sauce in my book. Stop being a little bitch and think about giving back a little to the site and people that may have saved your life.
exactly where in the fuck can you go quit for nearly a year and have saved $265? What kind of fucked up math is that? What kind of fucked up person are you that you have the audacity to pop in and comment when you have been MIA for as long as you have. One would have thought at the very least you'd have the common decency to explain your absence in detail and your renewed commitment to your quit. No one here expects someone to give more than they are capable of giving, we do expect you to be respectful to everyone that does however. Your actions are purely selfish and are a disgrace.
I suggest we delete this thread
Actually my intentions in returning to the forums now was to relay some of my experiences and struggles being quit, but after I was confronted by those reactions to my last post from February 2012, my motivation was lost. It seems like there is not much room around here for diversity in terms of dealing with oneÂ’s addiction. It turns out that I am not one who needs to post every day to the roll call. My bad. But I donÂ’t think I need to be treated so harshly for it. I still struggle with my addiction, and I would hope you all would continue to at least voice support for my efforts.
And the “fucked up math” came directly from this website’s calculator. I dipped 1 can about every 5 to 7 days. Multiply that by 331 days. Wait, make that 332 days.
IÂ’m not sure on what grounds this thread should be deleted, but I couldnÂ’t care less if it was.
Bye.
The thread won't be deleted from what I've seen in my short time here and I don't think it should be. But.... before you get all pissed off at the reactions I do want to ask if you took any time to read the welcome center? If you had how can you wonder why you've got some shit over your posts? Glad you're quit, hope to see you here giving back, it WILL make your quit stronger. My guess is you're long gone and won't be back though.
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Ok...
Well, I just logged into this website since last February. For the record, I'm 331 days quit (saved over $265!). I won't say "without a problem� the entire time, but my quit has gone relatively well. However, I decided to check back in to get some inspiration to deal with some minor desires to relapse. Lo and behold, I see that my last post was not received very well. After reflecting on some of the responses, it is clear to me that yes, I have "used" this community, in the sense that I have used you all for inspiration to quit but never signed the roll call. I�m so sorry about that. Just know that I have even more reason to stay quit, and will continue to use you all.
Jackasses ;)
331 days...impressive. You used this site to help you get there and now are back because you have some desire to relapse. Nice.
Did it ever occur to you to GIVE BACK , even a little, to the site and people that helped you quit? Did the thought ever cross your mind? Maybe sharing some of your experiences could have helped some of the guys struggling, especially the younger guys. Look back at the guys who reached out to you after your first intro post. I bet that felt good to be welcomed with that kind of response.
While Im glad your quit, I think you're a selfish bastard who really doesn't get this site. This is a brotherhood where we help eachother, a two way street, not a one way.
While there is no way anybody can MAKE you give back, speaking strictly for me, I honestly think you should be ashamed of yourself. Not only for using and not giving back but by popping back in after long periods and almost rubbing our noses in it. Like , "hey guys thanks for bearing your souls to me, it really helped me out, Im still quit though and will be back when I feel like using again. Later dudes".
That's fucking weak sauce in my book. Stop being a little bitch and think about giving back a little to the site and people that may have saved your life.
exactly where in the fuck can you go quit for nearly a year and have saved $265? What kind of fucked up math is that? What kind of fucked up person are you that you have the audacity to pop in and comment when you have been MIA for as long as you have. One would have thought at the very least you'd have the common decency to explain your absence in detail and your renewed commitment to your quit. No one here expects someone to give more than they are capable of giving, we do expect you to be respectful to everyone that does however. Your actions are purely selfish and are a disgrace.
I suggest we delete this thread
Actually my intentions in returning to the forums now was to relay some of my experiences and struggles being quit, but after I was confronted by those reactions to my last post from February 2012, my motivation was lost. It seems like there is not much room around here for diversity in terms of dealing with oneÂ’s addiction. It turns out that I am not one who needs to post every day to the roll call. My bad. But I donÂ’t think I need to be treated so harshly for it. I still struggle with my addiction, and I would hope you all would continue to at least voice support for my efforts.
And the “fucked up math” came directly from this website’s calculator. I dipped 1 can about every 5 to 7 days. Multiply that by 331 days. Wait, make that 332 days.
IÂ’m not sure on what grounds this thread should be deleted, but I couldnÂ’t care less if it was.
Bye.
The thread won't be deleted from what I've seen in my short time here and I don't think it should be. But.... before you get all pissed off at the reactions I do want to ask if you took any time to read the welcome center? If you had how can you wonder why you've got some shit over your posts? Glad you're quit, hope to see you here giving back, it WILL make your quit stronger. My guess is you're long gone and won't be back though.
Joe..people make mistakes.. as long as you learn from them.. but if you intend to just come and go that's not the way it works.. We can't allow 1 person to change the moral rules..
I'm happy you're still quit, but you're not benefitting as we are. You're still thinking of yourself. We on the other hand are thinking of others.. Of course our own quit is the most important, but to strengthen your quit you need to be involved. If you were ok you'd never had come back. Coming back tells us you can't do it alone. Guess what? None of us can do it alone. That's why we're here everyday making our promise, and supporting each other.
This isn't just about nic.. If you do what we do it'll change your whole person.
Eric71 's last post was a masterpiece, read his thread. He summed up exactly how I feel. This process has changed my life. Pm if you need anything..