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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: DeskJockey on May 21, 2013, 09:55:00 PM
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Hello everyone. This is my first post.
I'm 22 days away from my 45th birthday, and 17 days away from Skoal Mint Long Cut...at least if my math is right. I had my last pinch on Saturday, May 4 , 2013.
I'm married and have two young kids and it finally hit me that I needed to stop poisoning my body. I started in the ninth grade, so I suppose it's been 30 years, give or take.
I've been avoiding dentists for years but was referred to a dentist that turned out to be extremely plain-spoken, informative, and caring. He explained he was a baseball player all through school (which for anyone my age needs no explanation...I guess they don't chew any more in the pros but wow, they sure used to, and on TV) and told me he chewed and dipped through school and college and he made me very comfortable as a guy who understood my anxiety.
After X-Rays and a manual (fingers) exam of the lymph nodes under my jaw and down my neck...where I've been feeling the most pain since quitting...he said I seem to be healthy. I have an appointment for a regular cleaning in a month. Today was just a cancer screening.
Guys, if you quit and your mouth/jaw/throat/neck hurts (and all of mine hurts like hell here on Day 17), go see a good dentist and put your mind at ease. I got through the mental fog okay but the physical pain....and it's not bad pain, just dull aches...really scared me and I needed to know either way...did I just have sore chops or was I already riddled with cancer?
Thanks for this forum. I really appreciate what I've read so far.
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Your first post was a great one. You said that you had done some reading on the site. I hope you not only read more, but also chose to "post roll" with the August 2013 group. (You will hit 100 days nic free (the Hame of Fame) in August).
Post Roll: Why (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=120)? How (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50)?
Every day you log into your “Group”, a bunch of guys all quitting together and going through the same suck, fog, cravings, etc. You “Post Roll”; add your name and the number of days quit that you are. This is your promise, a pledge to your quit brothers and sisters, to yourself, and to everyone else here on KTC to not use nicotine in any way, shape, or form, for the next 24 hours. Keep your promise. A man is nothing if his word is no good.
Get involved and get to know these guys. They make quitting a lot easier and every day I have good laugh while reclaiming my life.
If you need anything just holler.
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Hello everyone. This is my first post.
I'm 22 days away from my 45th birthday, and 17 days away from Skoal Mint Long Cut...at least if my math is right. I had my last pinch on Saturday, May 4 , 2013.
I'm married and have two young kids and it finally hit me that I needed to stop poisoning my body. I started in the ninth grade, so I suppose it's been 30 years, give or take.
I've been avoiding dentists for years but was referred to a dentist that turned out to be extremely plain-spoken, informative, and caring. He explained he was a baseball player all through school (which for anyone my age needs no explanation...I guess they don't chew any more in the pros but wow, they sure used to, and on TV) and told me he chewed and dipped through school and college and he made me very comfortable as a guy who understood my anxiety.
After X-Rays and a manual (fingers) exam of the lymph nodes under my jaw and down my neck...where I've been feeling the most pain since quitting...he said I seem to be healthy. I have an appointment for a regular cleaning in a month. Today was just a cancer screening.
Guys, if you quit and your mouth/jaw/throat/neck hurts (and all of mine hurts like hell here on Day 17), go see a good dentist and put your mind at ease. I got through the mental fog okay but the physical pain....and it's not bad pain, just dull aches...really scared me and I needed to know either way...did I just have sore chops or was I already riddled with cancer?
Thanks for this forum. I really appreciate what I've read so far.
That's good shit right there. Welcome to the site. You are doing the right thing. You need anything, hit me up anytime.
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Hello everyone. This is my first post.
I'm 22 days away from my 45th birthday, and 17 days away from Skoal Mint Long Cut...at least if my math is right. I had my last pinch on Saturday, May 4 , 2013.
I'm married and have two young kids and it finally hit me that I needed to stop poisoning my body. I started in the ninth grade, so I suppose it's been 30 years, give or take.
I've been avoiding dentists for years but was referred to a dentist that turned out to be extremely plain-spoken, informative, and caring. He explained he was a baseball player all through school (which for anyone my age needs no explanation...I guess they don't chew any more in the pros but wow, they sure used to, and on TV) and told me he chewed and dipped through school and college and he made me very comfortable as a guy who understood my anxiety.
After X-Rays and a manual (fingers) exam of the lymph nodes under my jaw and down my neck...where I've been feeling the most pain since quitting...he said I seem to be healthy. I have an appointment for a regular cleaning in a month. Today was just a cancer screening.
Guys, if you quit and your mouth/jaw/throat/neck hurts (and all of mine hurts like hell here on Day 17), go see a good dentist and put your mind at ease. I got through the mental fog okay but the physical pain....and it's not bad pain, just dull aches...really scared me and I needed to know either way...did I just have sore chops or was I already riddled with cancer?
Thanks for this forum. I really appreciate what I've read so far.
That's good shit right there. Welcome to the site. You are doing the right thing. You need anything, hit me up anytime.
Welcome to KTC. You are at the best place you can be. Post roll, we will be happy to Quit with you. Now that you went to the dentist and found out you dont have cancer... think about all the other things you hate about this sick addiction. I caved shortly after going to the dentist and being declared healthy I lost sight of every other reason that I hated my addiction. I came back a few days later and had to start over again. Cancer is the ultimate consequence. But the slavery to an addiction that takes your health and pride can be just as deadly! Stay clean and remain a good example for your kids! I'm glad you are here
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Welcome glad you are here like the others have said if you need anything holla remember we are all here for you but you have to be the one to pull the trigger if you need us.
Read Read Read you can never read too much here, you can learn from everyone vets, HOFers to newbies. you can also help here if you see a brother or sister struggling and you have a lil bit left in your tank dont be affraid jump in and help them. you never know your words mite be the ones they hear when the NIC Bitch comes calling...they may say what did DeskJockey say...or the reverse that person you helped early on may be the one you are calling in the middle of the night after you piss yourself from a dip dream or on the verge of a cave. You like me my friend are addicted to the most addicting chemical in the world.
PM me if you want my digits or need help
Todd
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Brother, our stories are about the same. You can do this.
My youngest kids (almost 5) probably don't even remember my days of dipping. That right there is the biggest success I can hope for.
Do not take this out on you family. They did not cause this. Get your wife on board and let her read the spouse's section (http://www.killthecan.org/community/spouse.asp). Sit down and read some on the site with her. I can't stress this enough. I waited too long to get my wife involved. She thought I was just being a prick for no reason. She didn't realize that nicotine is an addiction with real withdrawals. Our wives have suffered our addictions for many years, and we shouldn't make them suffer anymore during our quits. Let her help. She can recognize your rages and keep the children out of that. The innocents don't deserve the rage. Bring it here, we can take it.
Shoot me a PM if I can help you any way.
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Welcome to KTC, can't add much to this other than welcome. Get accountable, and get comfortable. The close you can stay tied to this site the better it will be.
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DJ glad you are here. This site is full of good guys that are willing to help out, and the site really works. Like said before read all you can and post roll. You have done this for 17 days with KTC, but trust me KTC makes quitting much better. I did it a few years ago for almost 6 months without KTC and caved. This time even though it has been 2 weeks feels way different, and the only thing I am doing different is using KTC. Shoot me a PM if you need anything.
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didn't see you post roll today do you need help are you still with us?
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didn't see you post roll today do you need help are you still with us?
Please tell me your still quit and that you didn't post roll cause you lost electricity at your house.... Am I being naive? Remember.... Cancer isn't the only bad thing that comes from chewing.... Come on! Talk with us. You have gone so far already. I'm going to bed tonight trusting we will see you tomorrow...
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Hey Deskjockey we're looking for your posts under new quitters. Guys he posted roll, just under the supporters column. Way to go DJ and keep it up looks like you have a helluva strong committment to being N-free.
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Good job DJ pm me if you need any help. I posted in HOF July one day...important thing here is you are posting roll. Quit w u today
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See... I knew you were gonna be good. Quit on brother!
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Thanks for all the support, gentlemen. I really appreciate it.
I have been posting roll daily and will continue to do so.
I'm very happy to be done with tobacco. I've had some interesting adjustments to make, such as mowing the lawn, washing the cars, and working in the garage on a Saturday afternoon without poison in my mouth, but this is manageable when one WANTS to be tobacco-free.
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Day 30. My mouth hurts today like it did in the first two weeks, like out of nowhere. My tongue feels a little swollen in back. I've been to the dentist so I'm not scared but it's strange that the pain is back after a week or so without.
What's a little scary is I'm having numbness and tingling in my arms. I haven't seen this symptom mentioned before that I remember.
Has anyone else had this?
The good news is I'm still off tobacco. It will be a full month - 31 days - tomorrow.
Thanks to all for the continuing support. It helps a lot.
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Day 30. My mouth hurts today like it did in the first two weeks, like out of nowhere. My tongue feels a little swollen in back. I've been to the dentist so I'm not scared but it's strange that the pain is back after a week or so without.
What's a little scary is I'm having numbness and tingling in my arms. I haven't seen this symptom mentioned before that I remember.
Has anyone else had this?
The good news is I'm still off tobacco. It will be a full month - 31 days - tomorrow.
Thanks to all for the continuing support. It helps a lot.
I've had this. I believe it's normal. A large part of this cleansing process is fixing your arteries/blood flow. I've chalked it up to my blood finding new capillaries it hasn't visited in years. I've been to countless doctors about this and other ailments. Clean bill of health... If you're concerned, go see someone - but I do think its normal.
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Thanks per034. I really appreciate you taking the time to put my mind a little more at ease. I'm almost 45 years old and numbness in the arms isn't what middle-aged desk jockeys want to feel with regards to heart health. I've been to the doctor recently enough to feel relatively healthy but the numbness isn't fun. It comes and goes but has been better today.
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I read much more than I post here. One thing I read recently was a suggestion to use our intro threads to post updates and histories and other things so we can go back and read through our quit journey at some future date. And, of course, maybe others will be inspired to quit or keep quitting from reading anything that any of us write in any thread - our own or others'.
With that in mind, I present this:
As I've mentioned before, I have a wife and young kids. I also have a neighbor who sells life insurance and thought it would be a good idea to find out what it costs and get some coverage in case I got hit by a bus...but in the back of my mind it was for not if by when I die of cancer. Of course I didn't tell him that.
We met at a local coffee shop three or four months ago and he talked about my options - from just enough to cover death expenses all the way through paying off the house and paying for two kids to go to college 13 years from now and making it so my wife would never have to go back to work (she is a stay-at-home Mom, I'm proud to say).
He explained that no matter how much or how little coverage I wanted, the health insurance people would do a blood test, urine test, height, weight, blood pressure, and maybe a couple of other things and from that they would get an idea of how long I'd live and set up my rates accordingly. He said they would come to my home or office and take all that from wherever I was and then go analyze it in their lab.
I sat there, nodding and taking notes and drinking coffee with my friend (and he really is a friend) with a dip of Skoal on one side of my mouth or the other where I figured no one could see it. I could drink coffee easily with a dip in my mouth. Beer, too. I never ate while dipping but I'd drink water, Diet Coke, whatever, and not spit out my dip. I had gone from "how do I keep all this loose powder from floating around in my mouth" as a teenager to having complete control of a tiny pinch in my mouth and being able to separate it from liquid I'd drink while dipping. What a loser I was.
In my last few (probably ten) years of dipping, I rarely spit but I never knowingly swallowed, either. I think my mouth just got so dry that I didn't have to do either. I'm sure some went down my throat but that's a lot different than knowingly swallowing some spit when you're about to get busted by a high school teacher. Damn, that goes back a LONG time.
Both my neighbor/friend/insurance salesman and I were class of '86 in high school. We didn't know each other then and lived in different parts of the country, but sharing the same time can bring people together just as sharing the same space can. He and I have a lot in common and I respect him.
But then I started lying to him. Repeatedly.
Being a typical salesman, he wanted to close the deal. Make a sale. Get a commission from my monthly life insurance premiums. I understand all that and don't resent it. Why wouldn't I help a friend out as long as I was going to buy life insurance for my family anyway, rather than do business with a stranger?
But I knew I'd be busted for tobacco use if I ever let anyone take a blood sample.
So I made up excuses. "I'm shopping around", "We're not ready", "it's too expensive", and so on.
This past Saturday afternoon, I was driving up the hill to my house and drove past his house as always. He was mowing the lawn. Without even thinking about it, I realized it was time to make things right and pulled my car over and got out.
I spilled the whole story, as I've just told you guys, and apologized for lying to him.
He said he knew I dipped all along, from the bulge in my cheek and the smell of mint whenever I was around. This is a guy who hosts poker nights and Super Bowl parties and New Years' Day brunches. My wife and kids and I have been in his house dozens of times and he has gotten to know me pretty well over the years. He's no fool, and he's deals with guys like me on tobacco or other drugs (I live in Colorado - need I say more?) who make excuses for a month or more while they detox to come up clean on the blood and urine tests.
Being honest with him was important to me and I'm starting to feel a little less like a fool myself every day. I think this was a good and healthy part of quitting for me.
And if anyone's thinking I've quit only for a month so I can get life insurance, you are wrong. My quit is strong and so am I. You guys are helping with that and I thank you all. I'm learning not to be scared of the pain of quitting and not to be scared of being honest and asking for forgiveness. I'm learning how to stand up like a man instead of hiding (and thinking I'm getting away with it) like a scared little boy.
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Desk I wish I had your ability to articulate my feelings so well. that was bad ass, and now I am trying to go to sleep with full quit wood. send Traumagnet a PM he is headed to Colorado and im sure he will buy the drinks all night.
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I read the story, and im not proud to say but 13 years ago i did just that. i KNEW THE RULES, quit for 30 days and came up clean and got life insurance.
It feels really good knowing im on DAY 8 of my quit and i have taking a step that may allow me to out live that policy. Im glad im QUIT with you today.
About the lying, none are any worse than the ones we tell ourselves. Stay true to ourselves and the rest will fall into place. Thanks for the read
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I hear ya DJ...I did the same some time back...my ins guy did the same thing showed me the rates of tobacco users vs non users...it was almost double for me and I assume the same for you judging on your grad year I was 85 in Cortez CO. But he told me 50 days...dick I went 20 more than I needed too JK...
Well now I am doing it different its not for this and for that the pope the lunar cycle menstral cycle what have you its for me...I quit for me and I am an addict.
Now I quit with you! and KK is right I will buy all nite because he is sending me his company credit card and we will get some lap dances thanks KK
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I hear ya DJ...I did the same some time back...my ins guy did the same thing showed me the rates of tobacco users vs non users...it was almost double for me and I assume the same for you judging on your grad year I was 85 in Cortez CO. But he told me 50 days...dick I went 20 more than I needed too JK...
Well now I am doing it different its not for this and for that the pope the lunar cycle menstral cycle what have you its for me...I quit for me and I am an addict.
Now I quit with you! and KK is right I will buy all nite because he is sending me his company credit card and we will get some lap dances thanks KK
not to sound too much like a dick but i was in insurance for awhile...it's really only 5 days...thats why my brother couldn't stay quit afterwards...5 days quit, took the test, took a dip right after...trying to talk him into the quit, but can't wait around on him forever.
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I have a health question for you guys. I posted this in my quit thread but after thinking about it, this might reach a larger audience.
First, a follow up to the dentist thing - I went back for a cleaning on June 27 and was told everything looks great in my mouth. Excellent.
However, it's the rest of me that has me worried.
I'm on Day 85 of my quit.
Is anyone around this day range still having physical withdrawal symptoms? I think I am. The doctor says I'm healthy but I feel like bad often, and have heart attack symptoms too. I get tingling in arms, sweating, a feeling of panic, and chest pains. Most often these come in the middle of the night or when I'm sitting at my desk at work.
I've had a treadmill stress test, EKGs, chest X-rays, and a full physical exam since quitting - they all say I'm fine. I also seem to have agenerally poor attitude about a lot of things - money, alcohol, my job, my family, etc. Mostly, I just want to be left alone, except when I'm grabbing my chest and certain that I'm having a heart attack.
Don't get me wrong - I don't take out my frustrations on my family, but sometimes I just think to myself that I wish they'd all go away for a while, ya know?
I DO NOT want any tobacco but I feel bad physically more often than I feel "normal" or good. I also spend over an hour a day on my bicycle most days (35-40 minute commute to work each way) and I'm only a few pounds overweight. I should feel good but don't.
Anyone else have PHYSICAL problems like this? Thanks.
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I have a health question for you guys. I posted this in my quit thread but after thinking about it, this might reach a larger audience.
First, a follow up to the dentist thing - I went back for a cleaning on June 27 and was told everything looks great in my mouth. Excellent.
However, it's the rest of me that has me worried.
I'm on Day 85 of my quit.
Is anyone around this day range still having physical withdrawal symptoms? I think I am. The doctor says I'm healthy but I feel like bad often, and have heart attack symptoms too. I get tingling in arms, sweating, a feeling of panic, and chest pains. Most often these come in the middle of the night or when I'm sitting at my desk at work.
I've had a treadmill stress test, EKGs, chest X-rays, and a full physical exam since quitting - they all say I'm fine. I also seem to have agenerally poor attitude about a lot of things - money, alcohol, my job, my family, etc. Mostly, I just want to be left alone, except when I'm grabbing my chest and certain that I'm having a heart attack.
Don't get me wrong - I don't take out my frustrations on my family, but sometimes I just think to myself that I wish they'd all go away for a while, ya know?
I DO NOT want any tobacco but I feel bad physically more often than I feel "normal" or good. I also spend over an hour a day on my bicycle most days (35-40 minute commute to work each way) and I'm only a few pounds overweight. I should feel good but don't.
Anyone else have PHYSICAL problems like this? Thanks.
No. Mine were different. Huge depression. If the doctor says you are ok, you probably are. The bitch manifests her self in different ways for different folks. It was not until 160 days when I knew what "normal" was. I have been crushing her since.
Day 961. FU nic.
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I have a health question for you guys. I posted this in my quit thread but after thinking about it, this might reach a larger audience.
First, a follow up to the dentist thing - I went back for a cleaning on June 27 and was told everything looks great in my mouth. Excellent.
However, it's the rest of me that has me worried.
I'm on Day 85 of my quit.
Is anyone around this day range still having physical withdrawal symptoms? I think I am. The doctor says I'm healthy but I feel like bad often, and have heart attack symptoms too. I get tingling in arms, sweating, a feeling of panic, and chest pains. Most often these come in the middle of the night or when I'm sitting at my desk at work.
I've had a treadmill stress test, EKGs, chest X-rays, and a full physical exam since quitting - they all say I'm fine. I also seem to have agenerally poor attitude about a lot of things - money, alcohol, my job, my family, etc. Mostly, I just want to be left alone, except when I'm grabbing my chest and certain that I'm having a heart attack.
Don't get me wrong - I don't take out my frustrations on my family, but sometimes I just think to myself that I wish they'd all go away for a while, ya know?
I DO NOT want any tobacco but I feel bad physically more often than I feel "normal" or good. I also spend over an hour a day on my bicycle most days (35-40 minute commute to work each way) and I'm only a few pounds overweight. I should feel good but don't.
Anyone else have PHYSICAL problems like this? Thanks.
No. Mine were different. Huge depression. If the doctor says you are ok, you probably are. The bitch manifests her self in different ways for different folks. It was not until 160 days when I knew what "normal" was. I have been crushing her since.
Day 961. FU nic.
Hey brother. I'm only on day 31, but here's my 2 cents anyway.
From everything I've read, you should be WELL past any physical withdrawal symptoms. Psychological symptoms can be present for many months, however. Don't underestimate the power of your mind. Anxiety/stress can be a huge cause of many physical ailments. Go online and read the symptoms of anxiety - every physical ailment known to man is on that list. Often times, a clean bill of health will reduce physical symptoms simply due to peace of mind, but there are cases where folks can't get out of their own heads.
I'm not a doctor, but since the doctors say you are fine, my guess would be that this is a mental hurdle, which would also explain your poor attitude. Have you recently been under more stress than usual? You know, in addition to quitting your nicotine love affair 85 days ago.
The one thing I can say for certain is that nicotine will not help. Keep quit, and quiet your mind.
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I have a health question for you guys. I posted this in my quit thread but after thinking about it, this might reach a larger audience.
First, a follow up to the dentist thing - I went back for a cleaning on June 27 and was told everything looks great in my mouth. Excellent.
However, it's the rest of me that has me worried.
I'm on Day 85 of my quit.
Is anyone around this day range still having physical withdrawal symptoms? I think I am. The doctor says I'm healthy but I feel like bad often, and have heart attack symptoms too. I get tingling in arms, sweating, a feeling of panic, and chest pains. Most often these come in the middle of the night or when I'm sitting at my desk at work.
I've had a treadmill stress test, EKGs, chest X-rays, and a full physical exam since quitting - they all say I'm fine. I also seem to have agenerally poor attitude about a lot of things - money, alcohol, my job, my family, etc. Mostly, I just want to be left alone, except when I'm grabbing my chest and certain that I'm having a heart attack.
Don't get me wrong - I don't take out my frustrations on my family, but sometimes I just think to myself that I wish they'd all go away for a while, ya know?
I DO NOT want any tobacco but I feel bad physically more often than I feel "normal" or good. I also spend over an hour a day on my bicycle most days (35-40 minute commute to work each way) and I'm only a few pounds overweight. I should feel good but don't.
Anyone else have PHYSICAL problems like this? Thanks.
No. Mine were different. Huge depression. If the doctor says you are ok, you probably are. The bitch manifests her self in different ways for different folks. It was not until 160 days when I knew what "normal" was. I have been crushing her since.
Day 961. FU nic.
Everything you've said leads me to believe you're suffering from depression/anxiety induced panic attacks.
Get a referral to a psychiatrist.
Very common for people to mistake panic attacks for heart attacks. I went to the ER 2 times in my 20's convinced I was dying, but turns out I was having panic attacks.
If you're a worrier like me, sometimes your thinking can spiral and then the "fight or flight" response kicks in. Life is hard and can be overwhelming at times.
Good news is that its treatable. Feel free to send me a PM if you want to talk more about it.
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I have a health question for you guys. I posted this in my quit thread but after thinking about it, this might reach a larger audience.
First, a follow up to the dentist thing - I went back for a cleaning on June 27 and was told everything looks great in my mouth. Excellent.
However, it's the rest of me that has me worried.
I'm on Day 85 of my quit.
Is anyone around this day range still having physical withdrawal symptoms? I think I am. The doctor says I'm healthy but I feel like bad often, and have heart attack symptoms too. I get tingling in arms, sweating, a feeling of panic, and chest pains. Most often these come in the middle of the night or when I'm sitting at my desk at work.
I've had a treadmill stress test, EKGs, chest X-rays, and a full physical exam since quitting - they all say I'm fine. I also seem to have agenerally poor attitude about a lot of things - money, alcohol, my job, my family, etc. Mostly, I just want to be left alone, except when I'm grabbing my chest and certain that I'm having a heart attack.
Don't get me wrong - I don't take out my frustrations on my family, but sometimes I just think to myself that I wish they'd all go away for a while, ya know?
I DO NOT want any tobacco but I feel bad physically more often than I feel "normal" or good. I also spend over an hour a day on my bicycle most days (35-40 minute commute to work each way) and I'm only a few pounds overweight. I should feel good but don't.
Anyone else have PHYSICAL problems like this? Thanks.
No. Mine were different. Huge depression. If the doctor says you are ok, you probably are. The bitch manifests her self in different ways for different folks. It was not until 160 days when I knew what "normal" was. I have been crushing her since.
Day 961. FU nic.
Everything you've said leads me to believe you're suffering from depression/anxiety induced panic attacks.
Get a referral to a psychiatrist.
Very common for people to mistake panic attacks for heart attacks. I went to the ER 2 times in my 20's convinced I was dying, but turns out I was having panic attacks.
If you're a worrier like me, sometimes your thinking can spiral and then the "fight or flight" response kicks in. Life is hard and can be overwhelming at times.
Good news is that its treatable. Feel free to send me a PM if you want to talk more about it.
is this question for your or overitinMT... your post was confusing in the quit thread.
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I have a health question for you guys. I posted this in my quit thread but after thinking about it, this might reach a larger audience.
First, a follow up to the dentist thing - I went back for a cleaning on June 27 and was told everything looks great in my mouth. Excellent.
However, it's the rest of me that has me worried.
I'm on Day 85 of my quit.
Is anyone around this day range still having physical withdrawal symptoms? I think I am. The doctor says I'm healthy but I feel like bad often, and have heart attack symptoms too. I get tingling in arms, sweating, a feeling of panic, and chest pains. Most often these come in the middle of the night or when I'm sitting at my desk at work.
I've had a treadmill stress test, EKGs, chest X-rays, and a full physical exam since quitting - they all say I'm fine. I also seem to have agenerally poor attitude about a lot of things - money, alcohol, my job, my family, etc. Mostly, I just want to be left alone, except when I'm grabbing my chest and certain that I'm having a heart attack.
Don't get me wrong - I don't take out my frustrations on my family, but sometimes I just think to myself that I wish they'd all go away for a while, ya know?
I DO NOT want any tobacco but I feel bad physically more often than I feel "normal" or good. I also spend over an hour a day on my bicycle most days (35-40 minute commute to work each way) and I'm only a few pounds overweight. I should feel good but don't.
Anyone else have PHYSICAL problems like this? Thanks.
No. Mine were different. Huge depression. If the doctor says you are ok, you probably are. The bitch manifests her self in different ways for different folks. It was not until 160 days when I knew what "normal" was. I have been crushing her since.
Day 961. FU nic.
Everything you've said leads me to believe you're suffering from depression/anxiety induced panic attacks.
Get a referral to a psychiatrist.
Very common for people to mistake panic attacks for heart attacks. I went to the ER 2 times in my 20's convinced I was dying, but turns out I was having panic attacks.
If you're a worrier like me, sometimes your thinking can spiral and then the "fight or flight" response kicks in. Life is hard and can be overwhelming at times.
Good news is that its treatable. Feel free to send me a PM if you want to talk more about it.
is this question for your or overitinMT... your post was confusing in the quit thread.
Sorry traumagnet - didn't mean to confuse. When he talked about feeling like he was dying, it reminded me that I still feel that way 85 days into this.
I am only asking about myself and am very grateful to those who have respoonded, both here and via PM.
I guess I need to learn more about panic and anxiety. I thought those were mental problems, like being scared of something bad that might happen (that test you didn't study for in college, or a job performance review, or whatever).
What I'm feeling is physical...or though it seems.
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I have a health question for you guys. I posted this in my quit thread but after thinking about it, this might reach a larger audience.
First, a follow up to the dentist thing - I went back for a cleaning on June 27 and was told everything looks great in my mouth. Excellent.
However, it's the rest of me that has me worried.
I'm on Day 85 of my quit.
Is anyone around this day range still having physical withdrawal symptoms? I think I am. The doctor says I'm healthy but I feel like bad often, and have heart attack symptoms too. I get tingling in arms, sweating, a feeling of panic, and chest pains. Most often these come in the middle of the night or when I'm sitting at my desk at work.
I've had a treadmill stress test, EKGs, chest X-rays, and a full physical exam since quitting - they all say I'm fine. I also seem to have agenerally poor attitude about a lot of things - money, alcohol, my job, my family, etc. Mostly, I just want to be left alone, except when I'm grabbing my chest and certain that I'm having a heart attack.
Don't get me wrong - I don't take out my frustrations on my family, but sometimes I just think to myself that I wish they'd all go away for a while, ya know?
I DO NOT want any tobacco but I feel bad physically more often than I feel "normal" or good. I also spend over an hour a day on my bicycle most days (35-40 minute commute to work each way) and I'm only a few pounds overweight. I should feel good but don't.
Anyone else have PHYSICAL problems like this? Thanks.
No. Mine were different. Huge depression. If the doctor says you are ok, you probably are. The bitch manifests her self in different ways for different folks. It was not until 160 days when I knew what "normal" was. I have been crushing her since.
Day 961. FU nic.
I agree with Scowick. If a pro says you are ok then assume that you are and the Nic Bitch is looking for a way back into your life. Life is tough enough when it's going great. It's even tougher when you're new into a quit. No need to go looking for more trouble and worries.
One day far ahead in your new quit life you're going to wake up and the side of your tongue is going to hurt like hell and scare the shit out of you. Maybe your jaw will hurt after feeling great for months. Maybe a sore will appear. It's real pain but can a Dr define its origin? Maybe, maybe not. Take this all in stride. Assume it's the nic-bitch, playing very unfairly, trying anything to get back into your life.
You used nicotine for a long time, likely for hours every day. It's going to take a long time to rewire your brain to a life without nicotine. You'll need to relearn how to do everything without it: showering, shitting, driving, golfing, drinking, whatever it was.
These "funks" are fairly predictable among qutters. Mid 20s, mid 70s, post HOF, 180s, 225, etc. I can't explain why this is. Kind of like an office full of chicks that all start menstrating at the same time. You can try to figure out the why and how, or you can accept it and move on.
Just remember that the bad times get further and further apart. The better days get better and better!
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Hey man congrats on HOF brother. I don't want to hear any shit about blunts either, it's a cave no matter how small the amount is lmao. Hey all jokes aside hell of an accomplishment. Now we have another floor to get your ass signed up for so get over to August, post roll, and sign up for 200. I quit with you all day today.
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Desk Jockey - Well done! Congratulations. Keep on going brother!
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'worship' 'worship' 'worship'
Well Done BADASS!
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Great job on 100! Quit on!
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Well done brother! I'll quit another 100 with you!
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well done DJ keep up the quit just marker on the road not the end of the road enjoy your day bro quit with you today
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Another Badass August brother living in the HOF. The worlds gonna know your name. Living everday in the HOF. Congrats DJ.
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Wow. I haven't been back to my own introduction thread and missed all the well-wishes below from my quit brothers after I hit HOF.
Thank you all.
Just wanted to report I'm on Day 222 and have been feeling great for...well, since I can't remember. I wrote previously in this thread about chest pains but I haven't had any problems at all lately.
I think I've gained about five pounds (but I'm 6'2", so that's not all that much) since it became too cold to bicycle to work here in Colorado and that was also right around Halloween, when candy was everywhere - on people's desks at work, in my kids' trick or treat baskets, etc.
But I usually do this fall weight gain every year and shed it quickly in the spring when I get back into regular physical activity like cycling. I ski in the winter, but that's one day every now and then vs. every day excercise when it's not brutally cold outside.
I'm really happy to be tobacco free and for all you guys to share our highs and lows together.
Quit on!
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Meant to post this a few days ago, but better late than never.
On day 248 (last Wednesday, January 8), I went to the dentist again. It had been six months since my last cleaning. This was just a routine visit and the dentist said my teeth and gums look fine. "You have really nice teeth" were his exact words. Cool! Looks like all that dip might not have done as much damage as I thought.
That's three dentist visits in less than a year for me. I used to go years between visits when I was dipping but I want to stay healthy.
We got talking about tobacco. My dentist is a former dipper himself and he said his lab guy just quit dipping as a new years resolution.
As I was about to leave, I ask the hygenist for a piece of paper and a pen and wrote down www.killthecan.org (http://www.killthecan.org) on a post-it note and asked her to give it to the lab guy.
I don't read intro threads here every day so I don't know if he's here but I sure hope so. I figure he was on Day 8 that day and, for me at least, that was about as hard a time for quitting as there was.
If you're that guy and recognize yourself from this reading this, please say hello or send me a Private Message. I'll be happy to offer as much support as I can.
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Today is my Day 365. I'd like to thank everyone here who helped me get here.
I'm bumping this partly in celebration but mostly in the hopes it might help any new guys who just got here and are having a hard time. I understand.
One year ago today, Cinco De Mayo 2013, a Sunday morning, I woke up and said "never again" and meant it. I never wanted to go back to tobacco but I sure hated all the withdrawal symptoms. Nicotine withdrawal messed with my brain and my body for longer than I thought it would and in ways I couldn't predict but I'm here today tobacco-free and feeling great.
If I can do it, anyone can. Including you. Stay strong.
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Today is my Day 365. I'd like to thank everyone here who helped me get here.
I'm bumping this partly in celebration but mostly in the hopes it might help any new guys who just got here and are having a hard time. I understand.
One year ago today, Cinco De Mayo 2013, a Sunday morning, I woke up and said "never again" and meant it. I never wanted to go back to tobacco but I sure hated all the withdrawal symptoms. Nicotine withdrawal messed with my brain and my body for longer than I thought it would and in ways I couldn't predict but I'm here today tobacco-free and feeling great.
If I can do it, anyone can. Including you. Stay strong.
Congrats on the year! Keep on quitting strong!
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Today is my Day 365. I'd like to thank everyone here who helped me get here.
I'm bumping this partly in celebration but mostly in the hopes it might help any new guys who just got here and are having a hard time. I understand.
One year ago today, Cinco De Mayo 2013, a Sunday morning, I woke up and said "never again" and meant it. I never wanted to go back to tobacco but I sure hated all the withdrawal symptoms. Nicotine withdrawal messed with my brain and my body for longer than I thought it would and in ways I couldn't predict but I'm here today tobacco-free and feeling great.
If I can do it, anyone can. Including you. Stay strong.
Congrats on the year! Keep on quitting strong!
Congrats DJ, I am with you. Seems to be a problem with the forums being goofed up..
I am officially 365 tomorrow
Keep the kick on.
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proud to quit with you today desk jockey. Congratulations on the anniversary! 'oh yeah'
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proud to quit with you today desk jockey. Congratulations on the anniversary! 'oh yeah'
Congrats Bro! 1 Year!!! That is truly BAD ASS!
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Today is my Day 365. I'd like to thank everyone here who helped me get here.
I'm bumping this partly in celebration but mostly in the hopes it might help any new guys who just got here and are having a hard time. I understand.
One year ago today, Cinco De Mayo 2013, a Sunday morning, I woke up and said "never again" and meant it. I never wanted to go back to tobacco but I sure hated all the withdrawal symptoms. Nicotine withdrawal messed with my brain and my body for longer than I thought it would and in ways I couldn't predict but I'm here today tobacco-free and feeling great.
If I can do it, anyone can. Including you. Stay strong.
Congrats on the year! Keep on quitting strong!
Well done Desk Jockey. An August Bad Ass representing to the fullest. 1 year quit. You da man.
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Today is my Day 365. I'd like to thank everyone here who helped me get here.
I'm bumping this partly in celebration but mostly in the hopes it might help any new guys who just got here and are having a hard time. I understand.
One year ago today, Cinco De Mayo 2013, a Sunday morning, I woke up and said "never again" and meant it. I never wanted to go back to tobacco but I sure hated all the withdrawal symptoms. Nicotine withdrawal messed with my brain and my body for longer than I thought it would and in ways I couldn't predict but I'm here today tobacco-free and feeling great.
If I can do it, anyone can. Including you. Stay strong.
Congrats on the year! Keep on quitting strong!
Well done Desk Jockey. An August Bad Ass representing to the fullest. 1 year quit. You da man.
1 year is awesome, congratulations!
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Bad ass!!!