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Title: Quit for a while, still struggling
Post by: canless2014 on September 07, 2014, 06:20:00 PM
Hi all. I quit back on June 30 of this summer, so it's been quite a while now. I've been reading KTC since I quit, but thought I was doing well on my own and didn't need the support of the forum. Well, I'm back at college (where I began smoking / dipping almost three years ago) and the cravings are pretty strong again. Hoping by posting roll and getting to know everyone on here I can keep my quit going to make 100 days soon.

My dad smoked since long before I was born, and I thought it was the most disgusting thing in the world until first year of college. Bought a pack of cigarettes for an all-nighter and I was hooked. Went from social smoker to ninja smoker pretty quickly, ended up going through about a pack every other day. Quit a few times, never for more than 1.5 months. A year ago I went camping with a good friend — she offered me some Grizz Wintergreen. Well, I thought it was pretty great and I kept telling myself I wouldn't keep it up, but there I was this June, about to go in for some unrelated surgery and realized I couldn't keep telling the doctors I didn't use tobacco if it was going to show up on my hospital admissions tests. So I quit.

Any advice for quitting while at college / times of stress would be much appreciated. Lucky to have very few friends who dip, unfortunately many smoke. Only one or two (not even girlfriend) ever knew I dipped.

Sorry for the novel. Hope everyone has a great night.

- Brian , quit date 6/30/2014
Title: Re: Quit for a while, still struggling
Post by: Quitforsoj on September 07, 2014, 06:53:00 PM
Quote from: canless2014
Hi all. I quit back on June 30 of this summer, so it's been quite a while now. I've been reading KTC since I quit, but thought I was doing well on my own and didn't need the support of the forum. Well, I'm back at college (where I began smoking / dipping almost three years ago) and the cravings are pretty strong again. Hoping by posting roll and getting to know everyone on here I can keep my quit going to make 100 days soon.

My dad smoked since long before I was born, and I thought it was the most disgusting thing in the world until first year of college. Bought a pack of cigarettes for an all-nighter and I was hooked. Went from social smoker to ninja smoker pretty quickly, ended up going through about a pack every other day. Quit a few times, never for more than 1.5 months. A year ago I went camping with a good friend — she offered me some Grizz Wintergreen. Well, I thought it was pretty great and I kept telling myself I wouldn't keep it up, but there I was this June, about to go in for some unrelated surgery and realized I couldn't keep telling the doctors I didn't use tobacco if it was going to show up on my hospital admissions tests. So I quit.

Any advice for quitting while at college / times of stress would be much appreciated. Lucky to have very few friends who dip, unfortunately many smoke. Only one or two (not even girlfriend) ever knew I dipped.

Sorry for the novel. Hope everyone has a great night.

- Brian , quit date 6/30/2014
any craving you need to deal with... work thru them.. go on chat -
Title: Re: Quit for a while, still struggling
Post by: Wt57 on September 07, 2014, 07:07:00 PM
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Any advice for quitting while at college / times of stress.
"Any advice on quitting and living life?" Basically that's what your asking. There are times that quitting sucks but not quitting sucks more. As a 40+ year addict I can tell you that life's stress doesn't end soon for you or any of use
Title: Re: Quit for a while, still struggling
Post by: Ginet on September 07, 2014, 07:57:00 PM
Here's my advice. It's simple really.
Don't put that shit in your mouth.


Craves? Work out, do some push ups go into chat and meet some quitters, yell at them, talk to them, get some numbers from them so you have someone to call when the next crave comes. Oh....it's coming.

Having a stressful hard day? Go to the fridge and get a bottle of Suck it Up. Quitting is hard. I am going to bet your resolve is stronger.

Many of us were Ninja Dippers so we get it. You will be surprised how liberating it is to actually tell someone that you are quit, give your quit day, and history of use. Don't define yourself by what you were, but who you are now. You are quit.

Enjoy college bud free of that cancer because I can tell you, chicks don't dig dudes with half jaws.......at all.

So, keep pushing forward. Get your name on roll and fell how great it is to have others right there with you for 24 hours! I bet they will do it again the next day! I know I will be here.....quitting like a girl.
Title: Re: Quit for a while, still struggling
Post by: canless2014 on September 07, 2014, 11:25:00 PM
Thank you all for the responses. Felt good to see coming back from studying. You're right — I'll make sure to pick up a few extra bottle of Suck It Up next time I'm shopping!

Also it's great to hear from some good people who made the same stupid mistake I did. It can be tough telling non-tobacco users about my quit because sometimes they just look disgusted from the very start. And they should, it's a damn disgusting thing, but it sure as hell makes it harder. Ah well though, that's what we get for picking the damn can / pack up in the first place.

Cheers, g'night, and thanks again
Title: Re: Quit for a while, still struggling
Post by: MonsterMedic on September 08, 2014, 12:08:00 AM
Glad to have you back with us. Hopefully you'll keep posting roll. I know that it's gotten me through some tough times, as well as getting connected with several guys here that I talk to on a daily basis.

Knowing that if I cave I'll be letting down tons of people, keeps me quit one day at a time.
Title: Re: Quit for a while, still struggling
Post by: Southpaw32 on September 08, 2014, 08:39:00 AM
Welcome to October man. This won't end at day 100, 100 days won't cure you of your addictions. That's why we post roll everyday it's a promise to ourselves our loved ones and our group that we will stay quit for that day. Then we wake up and do it all over again.

I'm in college too and I was a ninja smoker and full blown dipper. I don't know when your classes start in the morning but make sure you get up and post roll every day before you head to school.
Title: Re: Quit for a while, still struggling
Post by: canless2014 on September 08, 2014, 08:51:00 AM
Thanks MonsterEMT and Southpaw32. Class in a little bit, just posted roll for Day 71. I didn't realize until I spent practically the whole day on KTC yesterday that I needed some accountability. Up until now the way I've stayed quit is by thinking, "well I've made it this far it would be stupid to have to do that again."

Which is good, but then you get this creeping feeling -- "Oh, this hasn't been to bad. I'm sure I could do it again." Staying quit is the biggest priority though. No excuses or justifications. You'll see me on roll everyday.
Title: Re: Quit for a while, still struggling
Post by: starr_78 on September 08, 2014, 09:52:00 AM
Quote from: canless2014
Thanks MonsterEMT and Southpaw32. Class in a little bit, just posted roll for Day 71. I didn't realize until I spent practically the whole day on KTC yesterday that I needed some accountability. Up until now the way I've stayed quit is by thinking, "well I've made it this far it would be stupid to have to do that again."

Which is good, but then you get this creeping feeling -- "Oh, this hasn't been to bad. I'm sure I could do it again." Staying quit is the biggest priority though. No excuses or justifications. You'll see me on roll everyday.
Feels good to have a strong backing with KTC doesn't it?! This will help you keep your quit equation strong, and that equation is Brotherhood + Accountability = Success. You get that posting roll is the accountability and you will be doing this everyday. Good job on seeing how important that is. Now go out and build a group of brothers and sisters that you can lean on when times get tough. That is the brotherhood part of the equation. Get to know your fellow quitters and share experiences with each other. It is one of the most overlooked parts of the quitting equation. I have traded many phone numbers and emails with quitters on KTC because my brothers and sisters give a shit on how I am doing, and keep me in check. So go out and trade numbers and email addresses and strengthen your equation.

Keep quittin brother,

Starr
Title: Re: Quit for a while, still struggling
Post by: tarpon17 on September 08, 2014, 09:58:00 AM
Quote from: starr_78
Quote from: canless2014
Thanks MonsterEMT and Southpaw32. Class in a little bit, just posted roll for Day 71. I didn't realize until I spent practically the whole day on KTC yesterday that I needed some accountability. Up until now the way I've stayed quit is by thinking, "well I've made it this far it would be stupid to have to do that again."

Which is good, but then you get this creeping feeling -- "Oh, this hasn't been to bad. I'm sure I could do it again." Staying quit is the biggest priority though. No excuses or justifications. You'll see me on roll everyday.
Feels good to have a strong backing with KTC doesn't it?! This will help you keep your quit equation strong, and that equation is Brotherhood + Accountability = Success. You get that posting roll is the accountability and you will be doing this everyday. Good job on seeing how important that is. Now go out and build a group of brothers and sisters that you can lean on when times get tough. That is the brotherhood part of the equation. Get to know your fellow quitters and share experiences with each other. It is one of the most overlooked parts of the quitting equation. I have traded many phone numbers and emails with quitters on KTC because my brothers and sisters give a shit on how I am doing, and keep me in check. So go out and trade numbers and email addresses and strengthen your equation.

Keep quittin brother,

Starr
Love to see the lightbulb go off! Welcome man, accountability is the name of the game here. I'm proof positive, 1447 days quit. I'll quit with you all day

tarp
Title: Re: Quit for a while, still struggling
Post by: Tuco on September 08, 2014, 10:16:00 AM
Quote from: tarpon17
Quote from: starr_78
Quote from: canless2014
Thanks MonsterEMT and Southpaw32. Class in a little bit, just posted roll for Day 71. I didn't realize until I spent practically the whole day on KTC yesterday that I needed some accountability. Up until now the way I've stayed quit is by thinking, "well I've made it this far it would be stupid to have to do that again."

Which is good, but then you get this creeping feeling -- "Oh, this hasn't been to bad. I'm sure I could do it again." Staying quit is the biggest priority though. No excuses or justifications. You'll see me on roll everyday.
Feels good to have a strong backing with KTC doesn't it?! This will help you keep your quit equation strong, and that equation is Brotherhood + Accountability = Success. You get that posting roll is the accountability and you will be doing this everyday. Good job on seeing how important that is. Now go out and build a group of brothers and sisters that you can lean on when times get tough. That is the brotherhood part of the equation. Get to know your fellow quitters and share experiences with each other. It is one of the most overlooked parts of the quitting equation. I have traded many phone numbers and emails with quitters on KTC because my brothers and sisters give a shit on how I am doing, and keep me in check. So go out and trade numbers and email addresses and strengthen your equation.

Keep quittin brother,

Starr
Love to see the lightbulb go off! Welcome man, accountability is the name of the game here. I'm proof positive, 1447 days quit. I'll quit with you all day

tarp
Welcome! Seriously, you made an outstanding decision to dive on in here and you just did what I wish I had done back in February or March. Since you've been lurking, I'm sure you've seen the formula plenty of times before: accountability + brotherhood = success. I can tell you without hesitation that it just flat out works. Just the simple act of posting roll daily has saved me from numerous would-be caves.

Start swapping digits with your quit brothers if you haven't already. There's no shortage of badass quitters here, so start building up that network. I'll shoot you a PM with mine.

Again, welcome and QLF!
Title: Re: Quit for a while, still struggling
Post by: canless2014 on September 08, 2014, 01:46:00 PM
Trying to keep a record of things I've realized while quitting, so I can go back and look when I'm struggling.

I'm a big library guy (senior in college) and I usually do 7 to 8 hour stretches here. I was really dreading it because since freshman year tobacco has been what kept me focused. Thought it was going to be a huge trigger going more than half an hour studying without it.

What I realized today:
- Was looking for a nice secluded desk where nobody could see me, and then realized I don't chew anymore, so what the hell does it matter — I don't have to worry about grossing people out.
- Since I'm not smoking, I don't have to get up and walk outside every hour, worrying that I'm going to come back and my laptop will be stolen.

Living life without dip feels good!
Title: Re: Quit for a while, still struggling
Post by: rdad on September 08, 2014, 03:16:00 PM
Quote from: canless2014
Trying to keep a record of things I've realized while quitting, so I can go back and look when I'm struggling.

I'm a big library guy (senior in college) and I usually do 7 to 8 hour stretches here. I was really dreading it because since freshman year tobacco has been what kept me focused. Thought it was going to be a huge trigger going more than half an hour studying without it.

What I realized today:
- Was looking for a nice secluded desk where nobody could see me, and then realized I don't chew anymore, so what the hell does it matter — I don't have to worry about grossing people out.
- Since I'm not smoking, I don't have to get up and walk outside every hour, worrying that I'm going to come back and my laptop will be stolen.

Living life without dip feels good!
Canless, that is one of the things I like best about being quit. How simple life is without having to go through a bunch of planning and escaping just to get our fix. Good Job!
Title: Re: Quit for a while, still struggling
Post by: FMBM707 on September 09, 2014, 06:16:00 AM
Quote from: rdad
Quote from: canless2014
Trying to keep a record of things I've realized while quitting, so I can go back and look when I'm struggling.

I'm a big library guy (senior in college) and I usually do 7 to 8 hour stretches here. I was really dreading it because since freshman year tobacco has been what kept me focused. Thought it was going to be a huge trigger going more than half an hour studying without it.

What I realized today:
- Was looking for a nice secluded desk where nobody could see me, and then realized I don't chew anymore, so what the hell does it matter — I don't have to worry about grossing people out.
- Since I'm not smoking, I don't have to get up and walk outside every hour, worrying that I'm going to come back and my laptop will be stolen.

Living life without dip feels good!
Canless, that is one of the things I like best about being quit. How simple life is without having to go through a bunch of planning and escaping just to get our fix. Good Job!
Canless- quitting now as a senior in college will be one of the best decisions you'll ever make. There is no reason to ever put that shit in your body again. 1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems.

It's important to Quit one day at a time but it's also important to burn the boats = never again for any reason (NAFAR). If you read enough on here you'll read stories of guys who stopped for awhile (sometimes years) and then thought "I'll just have one" The common theme among ALL of them was that one turned into years of continued abuse.

Use the tools of KTC to fuel your quit or to help you through rough times.

You want some advice: Don't be Randy

topic/1008847/1/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1008847/1/#new)


Welcome to perHof October 2014 quit group.
Title: Re: Quit for a while, still struggling
Post by: jwright on September 09, 2014, 07:20:00 AM
Quote from: canless2014
Hi all. I quit back on June 30 of this summer, so it's been quite a while now. I've been reading KTC since I quit, but thought I was doing well on my own and didn't need the support of the forum. Well, I'm back at college (where I began smoking / dipping almost three years ago) and the cravings are pretty strong again. Hoping by posting roll and getting to know everyone on here I can keep my quit going to make 100 days soon.

My dad smoked since long before I was born, and I thought it was the most disgusting thing in the world until first year of college. Bought a pack of cigarettes for an all-nighter and I was hooked. Went from social smoker to ninja smoker pretty quickly, ended up going through about a pack every other day. Quit a few times, never for more than 1.5 months. A year ago I went camping with a good friend — she offered me some Grizz Wintergreen. Well, I thought it was pretty great and I kept telling myself I wouldn't keep it up, but there I was this June, about to go in for some unrelated surgery and realized I couldn't keep telling the doctors I didn't use tobacco if it was going to show up on my hospital admissions tests. So I quit.

Any advice for quitting while at college / times of stress would be much appreciated. Lucky to have very few friends who dip, unfortunately many smoke. Only one or two (not even girlfriend) ever knew I dipped.

Sorry for the novel. Hope everyone has a great night.

- Brian , quit date 6/30/2014
Canless, first of all, do this for yourself NOW and save precious years of your life and some teeth along the way. I literally feel like yesterday I was 20 years old battling dipping in the library in the dorm room, fucking everywhere while I studied, etc... in the blink of an eye I'm 33 and dipping my face off every day while I work. I will tell you NOTHING will change unless you make the decision for yourself, and you've done the best fucking thing by coming here.

As for dealing with stress I have this to say. Dip NEVER fucking helped you with stress... seriously NEVER. It really only made things a lot fucking worse for you. Actually, it probably is holding you back from being the best student you can be. Why? Because you might not be studying with the right people as you are too busy feeding your addiction by studying alone so you can dip. Or... perhaps because your body is fucking craving nicotine all night, you are not sleeping half as well as you are naturally programmed to. The list goes on and on... but one thing is for sure, when times get tough, dip is not on your side or helpful in any capacity.

PM me if you need any help with your quit and welcome.

It will be super fucking hard for you to quit, but reach out to us here that are aged in 30's, 40's, 50's and up and ask us about our dental status, opportunities we've lost, stupid shit we've done just to feed that addiction.

Post roll, and deal with your addiction ODAAT (one day at a time).
Title: Re: Quit for a while, still struggling
Post by: canless2014 on September 10, 2014, 12:26:00 PM
Hey everybody. So I'm doing a drive today up to Columbus to visit my girlfriend. This was the drive where I broke down and bought a can the last time I "stopped" dipping.

I will not cave today and ruin my quit. It's not an option. However, I wanted some extra accountability besides roll, so I am posting here now and I will post again when I get home around midnight, letting all of you know that I did not cave.

Also avoiding the gas station I always stopped at along the way by fueling up and picking up some jerky chew beforehand.

Have a great day everyone.
Title: Re: Quit for a while, still struggling
Post by: Tuco on September 10, 2014, 12:58:00 PM
Quote from: canless2014
Hey everybody. So I'm doing a drive today up to Columbus to visit my girlfriend. This was the drive where I broke down and bought a can the last time I "stopped" dipping.

I will not cave today and ruin my quit. It's not an option. However, I wanted some extra accountability besides roll, so I am posting here now and I will post again when I get home around midnight, letting all of you know that I did not cave.

Also avoiding the gas station I always stopped at along the way by fueling up and picking up some jerky chew beforehand.

Have a great day everyone.
Good call, canless. Keep your txt machine handy, too.
Title: Re: Quit for a while, still struggling
Post by: canless2014 on September 11, 2014, 12:53:00 AM
As promised, keeping myself accountable. Made it to Columbus, OH and back, and absolutely did NOT fucking cave. Decent crave, I'll admit, but luckily I was prepared and had my jerky chew with me.

Couple thoughts I had:

- Passed the 1-800-QUIT-NOW sign twice during the drive. I remember when I would pass it and say to myself - "after this can, I'm going to call. I'll figure this out." But of course, after that can, what did we do dippers? ANOTHER CAN! Felt good to pass by thinking it would be a good resource to use to stay quit, instead of getting quit.

- Passed by the Speedway where I broke down last time I stopped dipping. Gave them a big "FUCK YOU" out the window. I know it's not their fault, I take responsibility for my decisions, but damn it felt good to drive right by.

- Crazy the smallest things that used to justify grabbing some dirt. I'm driving a new car, and it came with the 30-day XM/Sirius satellite radio subscription. Well, it ran out a week ago but it kept playing for some reason. When I turned it on to come back home, it finally stopped and would only play the intro channel. What was my first thought? "I need a dip". BECAUSE OF THAT!? Sorry, Brian, you don't do that SHIT anymore. QLF/QFL.

Thanks for putting up with the rant. Happy to still be quit with all of you.
Title: Re: Quit for a while, still struggling
Post by: canless2014 on October 06, 2014, 01:31:00 PM
Been a long time since posting. I hit the HOF tomorrow and wanted to post a few reflections here (instead of writing the essay I should have had done an hour ago).

1. I joined late so I wasn't initially placed in an October TITAN accountability group. Realized this afternoon that I was recently added to one, and I wasn't sure what to do. Decided to PM each member of my group my phone number, so that they can keep me accountable. If they want me to keep them accountable, that's their choice and I will happily oblige, but at the minimum I want to know that if I miss even one day I have ten people that can kick my ass back onto KTC.

In the end, I think accountability is what got me to where I am in my quit. Whether it was on Kakao, KTC, the chat room or phone calls and texts (and even an email from SP one time) — the minuscule short-term enjoyment I might get out of a dip is FAR outweighed by the feeling of betrayal I would get the moment it hit my lip. Not a chance.

2. I've got to apologize for being pretty selfish about my quit the last week or two. When I first jumped on KTC a month ago I wanted to comment on every new quitter's thread, post support in every group, reach out to a new member every day, etc. Fact is life got pretty crazy and I've only been able to do the bare minimum, posting roll. It's my goal to ramp up my presence on KTC after I hit the HOF — I hope y'all will hold me accountable on that one too.

See you on the other side of HOF to start climbing that long staircase up to the 2nd floor!
Title: Re: Quit for a while, still struggling
Post by: wastepanel on October 06, 2014, 01:36:00 PM
Quote from: canless2014
Been a long time since posting. I hit the HOF tomorrow and wanted to post a few reflections here (instead of writing the essay I should have had done an hour ago).

1. I joined late so I wasn't initially placed in an October TITAN accountability group. Realized this afternoon that I was recently added to one, and I wasn't sure what to do. Decided to PM each member of my group my phone number, so that they can keep me accountable. If they want me to keep them accountable, that's their choice and I will happily oblige, but at the minimum I want to know that if I miss even one day I have ten people that can kick my ass back onto KTC.

In the end, I think accountability is what got me to where I am in my quit. Whether it was on Kakao, KTC, the chat room or phone calls and texts (and even an email from SP one time) — the minuscule short-term enjoyment I might get out of a dip is FAR outweighed by the feeling of betrayal I would get the moment it hit my lip. Not a chance.

2. I've got to apologize for being pretty selfish about my quit the last week or two. When I first jumped on KTC a month ago I wanted to comment on every new quitter's thread, post support in every group, reach out to a new member every day, etc. Fact is life got pretty crazy and I've only been able to do the bare minimum, posting roll. It's my goal to ramp up my presence on KTC after I hit the HOF — I hope y'all will hold me accountable on that one too.

See you on the other side of HOF to start climbing that long staircase up to the 2nd floor!
You do what you have to do when you need to.

Fucking proud of you man, and all I ask is that you keep it up. Post roll. Post more if you want to. That's the beauty of the place: We ask you post roll. We ask you to be honest. That's all. No more. No less. Be there for your brothers and ask for help when you need it.
Title: Re: Quit for a while, still struggling
Post by: canless2014 on November 22, 2014, 11:11:00 AM
Posting this so it's always here. I had read this story before. Little bit different listening to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDFNqOuZ3II (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDFNqOuZ3II)
Title: Re: Quit for a while, still struggling
Post by: canless2014 on November 22, 2014, 11:15:00 AM
I'm starting to understand the apathy toward people who leave the site to "quit their own way."

I want everyone to be quit, obviously. I would like to run Big Tobacco into the ground, obviously. The people still here are the people who have kept me quit all this time. If you want to leave and risk it, fine, do whatever you want. But you're certainly not going to get any "occasional texts to check in" from me.

You're on roll and your quit, or your not and I don't give a shit, to throw a little rhyme in there.
Title: Re: Quit for a while, still struggling
Post by: Grizzlyhasclaws on November 24, 2014, 02:28:00 PM
I'm liking your quit. Keep it strong. Congrats on your freedom.
Title: Re: Quit for a while, still struggling
Post by: Candoit on November 24, 2014, 05:59:00 PM
Quote from: canless2014
I'm starting to understand the apathy toward people who leave the site to "quit their own way."

I want everyone to be quit, obviously. I would like to run Big Tobacco into the ground, obviously. The people still here are the people who have kept me quit all this time. If you want to leave and risk it, fine, do whatever you want. But you're certainly not going to get any "occasional texts to check in" from me.

You're on roll and your quit, or your not and I don't give a shit, to throw a little rhyme in there.
Canless it took me a while to find the meaning of take what you need and leave the rest. Sounds like you have too. Quit in Titian.
Title: Re: Quit for a while, still struggling
Post by: canless2014 on December 06, 2014, 01:04:00 PM
"Today I will remember that nicotine isn't good for anything but keeping me addicted to nicotine."

- Saw this from SkoalMonster today and wanted to post it here so I remember.

We have Finals this week at school. I swear the number of people I see smoking or chewing doubles during Finals Week. So I'm posting as a reminder to myself and a warning to others: nicotine does not make you study harder. Nicotine does not get you better grades on finals. Nicotine isn't good for anything but keeping you addicted to nicotine.

I pledge that no matter how late I'm up, no matter how stressful it gets, I will continue to uphold my daily promise not to use nicotine in any form.

On a lighter note, I'm finally getting close to 100 days of posting on KTC. That comes later than most of my group, obviously, because I didn't start here until day 70 of my quit. It feels good to have been a Titan for almost 100, and it feels even better to be coming up on 200 total days quit in a month.

Quit on, everyone.
Title: Re: Quit for a while, still struggling
Post by: Grizzlyhasclaws on December 06, 2014, 01:13:00 PM
Quote from: canless2014
"Today I will remember that nicotine isn't good for anything but keeping me addicted to nicotine."

- Saw this from SkoalMonster today and wanted to post it here so I remember.

We have Finals this week at school. I swear the number of people I see smoking or chewing doubles during Finals Week. So I'm posting as a reminder to myself and a warning to others: nicotine does not make you study harder. Nicotine does not get you better grades on finals. Nicotine isn't good for anything but keeping you addicted to nicotine.

I pledge that no matter how late I'm up, no matter how stressful it gets, I will continue to uphold my daily promise not to use nicotine in any form.

On a lighter note, I'm finally getting close to 100 days of posting on KTC. That comes later than most of my group, obviously, because I didn't start here until day 70 of my quit. It feels good to have been a Titan for almost 100, and it feels even better to be coming up on 200 total days quit in a month.

Quit on, everyone.
Great stuff. Keep it up brother. You are winning.
Title: Re: Quit for a while, still struggling
Post by: canless2014 on January 22, 2015, 01:01:00 AM
Reading up on many intros, words of wisdom and HOF / HOL speeches tonight. Something struck me from the most recent post in the Hall of Legends forum:

"You have failed in the past. You are not your addiction."

That struck me. We spend so much time here saying we are addicts — and that's true! I am a nicotine addict and I always will be. But we spend so much time saying it that sometimes I forget that "I am not my addiction." I don't have to be defined by the fact that I am addicted to nicotine. Leaving this here so I'll see it in the future.
Title: Re: Quit for a while, still struggling
Post by: canless2014 on February 19, 2015, 10:45:00 AM
Thanks to Boelker62 for this post. Not sure if I have a comment here.. I think the post speaks for itself. Quit with all of you, trying to make our lives better.
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"Boelker62 - Look at that...another new day and an opportunity to increase our wholeness by 1%. On wholeness, a VERY, VERY close friend of mine, one whom we chat about stuff like this, relayed something that was very important to her in her journey of navigating depression and subsequent symptomatic bulimia and anorexia nervosas. Now that she has found her way to a fuller, and also brighter place in life, this concept of wholeness has become ultimately even more salient:

“I actually attack the concept of happiness. I don’t mind people being happy - but the idea that everything we do is part of the pursuit of happiness seems to me a really dangerous idea and has led to a contemporary disease in Western society, which is fear of sadness. It’s a really odd thing that we’re now seeing people saying 'write down 3 things that made you happy today before you go to sleep', and 'cheer up' and 'happiness is our birthright' and so on. We’re kind of teaching our kids that happiness is the default position - it’s rubbish. Wholeness is what we ought to be striving for and part of that is sadness, disappointment, frustration, failure; all of those things which make us who we are. Happiness and victory and fulfillment are nice little things that also happen to us, but they don’t teach us much. Everyone says we grow through pain and then as soon as they experience pain they say 'Quick! Move on! Cheer up!' I’d like just for a year to have a moratorium on the word 'happiness' and to replace it with the word 'wholeness'. Ask yourself 'is this contributing to my wholeness?' and if you’re having a bad day, it is."
- Hugh Mackay, psychologist and social researcher"
Title: Re: Quit for a while, still struggling
Post by: Vguy on February 19, 2015, 12:08:00 PM
Quote from: canless2014
Thanks to Boelker62 for this post. Not sure if I have a comment here.. I think the post speaks for itself. Quit with all of you, trying to make our lives better.
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"Boelker62 - Look at that...another new day and an opportunity to increase our wholeness by 1%. On wholeness, a VERY, VERY close friend of mine, one whom we chat about stuff like this, relayed something that was very important to her in her journey of navigating depression and subsequent symptomatic bulimia and anorexia nervosas. Now that she has found her way to a fuller, and also brighter place in life, this concept of wholeness has become ultimately even more salient:

“I actually attack the concept of happiness. I don’t mind people being happy - but the idea that everything we do is part of the pursuit of happiness seems to me a really dangerous idea and has led to a contemporary disease in Western society, which is fear of sadness. It’s a really odd thing that we’re now seeing people saying 'write down 3 things that made you happy today before you go to sleep', and 'cheer up' and 'happiness is our birthright' and so on. We’re kind of teaching our kids that happiness is the default position - it’s rubbish. Wholeness is what we ought to be striving for and part of that is sadness, disappointment, frustration, failure; all of those things which make us who we are. Happiness and victory and fulfillment are nice little things that also happen to us, but they don’t teach us much. Everyone says we grow through pain and then as soon as they experience pain they say 'Quick! Move on! Cheer up!' I’d like just for a year to have a moratorium on the word 'happiness' and to replace it with the word 'wholeness'. Ask yourself 'is this contributing to my wholeness?' and if you’re having a bad day, it is."
- Hugh Mackay, psychologist and social researcher"
Great post. Love this. Thanks for sharing it.
Title: Re: Quit for a while, still struggling
Post by: canless2014 on October 20, 2015, 09:23:00 PM
Somehow, I never sat down to make a plan, or a list of things I will do before I cave. Luckily, fowlmouth has made a great one. I am posting an adaptation here. He called this a "quit plan", I'll call it

"Note to my future self who wants to cave" (not as catchy, but fuck it)

1. Wake up.
2. You are an addict.
3. Post roll: you gave your word that you will not use nicotine in any form today. You will keep your word for 24 hours.
4. Message your group: they are your first line of defense; give them 24 hours to respond.
5. Text/call the guys who helped you through the first weeks; you know who they are. Give them 24 hours to respond.
6. At this point, you are waiting for 24 hours for the sage advice and kick-in-the-balls from other quitters. Go get out in the woods.
7. Call your parents and tell them you wanted to show them you could live life without nicotine, but it was too hard.
8. Call your girlfriend, tell her you've decided you'd rather live shoving dirt in your mouth or inhaling nicotine.
9. Drive to the store and spend your hard earned monies.
10. Get on KTC and post a Day 1. I know you feel guilty as shit, and I know you didn't enjoy it. Answer the questions. How the fuck did you get to #10?
Title: Re: Quit for a while, still struggling
Post by: fowlmouth on October 20, 2015, 09:29:00 PM
Quote from: canless2014
Somehow, I never sat down to make a plan, or a list of things I will do before I cave. Luckily, fowlmouth has made a great one. I am posting an adaptation here. He called this a "quit plan", I'll call it

"Note to my future self who wants to cave" (not as catchy, but fuck it)

1. Wake up.
2. You are an addict.
3. Post roll: you gave your word that you will not use nicotine in any form today. You will keep your word for 24 hours.
4. Message your group: they are your first line of defense; give them 24 hours to respond.
5. Text/call the guys who helped you through the first weeks; you know who they are. Give them 24 hours to respond.
6. At this point, you are waiting for 24 hours for the sage advice and kick-in-the-balls from other quitters. Go get out in the woods.
7. Call your parents and tell them you wanted to show them you could live life without nicotine, but it was too hard.
8. Call your girlfriend, tell her you've decided you'd rather live shoving dirt in your mouth or inhaling nicotine.
9. Drive to the store and spend your hard earned monies.
10. Get on KTC and post a Day 1. I know you feel guilty as shit, and I know you didn't enjoy it. Answer the questions. How the fuck did you get to #10?
#7 and #8 gave me the chills. Proud as fuck to quit with you today.
Title: Re: Quit for a while, still struggling
Post by: Thumblewort on October 21, 2015, 09:41:00 AM
Can you do #8 for me bro, my wife gets pissed if I do it. Thanks, QLF with you today!
Title: Re: Quit for a while, still struggling
Post by: canless2014 on October 22, 2015, 11:21:00 AM
Quote from: Thumblewort
Can you do #8 for me bro, my wife gets pissed if I do it. Thanks, QLF with you today!
Hahahaha no worries Thumblewort, I'll take that bullet for you.

But if you get to #8, you're probably gonna get two broken hands from this guy before I let you get to #9.
Title: Re: Quit for a while, still struggling
Post by: canless2014 on October 22, 2015, 11:21:00 AM
Motto Of The Day, from Spenceorion in Jan '16

"Destroy What Destroys You." Simple as that. Nicotine was waging an active war on every part of our health—our body, our heart, our lungs, our mouth, our mind, our families, our relationships—450-some-odd days ago we all decided to buck up, grab as many tools as we could, and fight back.

Destroy What Destroys You. Quit on, folks.
Title: Re: Quit for a while, still struggling
Post by: Rawls on October 22, 2015, 11:51:00 PM
Quote from: canless2014
Motto Of The Day, from Spenceorion in Jan '16

"Destroy What Destroys You." Simple as that. Nicotine was waging an active war on every part of our health—our body, our heart, our lungs, our mouth, our mind, our families, our relationships—450-some-odd days ago we all decided to buck up, grab as many tools as we could, and fight back.

Destroy What Destroys You. Quit on, folks.
This young man is mature in his ways.
Now, before, and tomorrow.
Respect is always with those that are "Canless".
I quit with you today brother.
Rawls