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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: NateDog123 on September 12, 2019, 12:54:18 PM
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Hey all,
I'm Nate, and I am 26 years old. I've been dipping roughly a can per day going on 10 years now. I did quit for a year in my early 20s, but picked it back up after a break-up. I have made a lot of progress in my life recently, (new city, grad school, getting in shape) and I feel that I am garnering the self-worth to accomplish quitting dip.
My plan is to wane off for the rest of September with my official quit date being October 1. I am currently limiting myself to 4 dips per day, which is already quite a cutback, and will drop that to 3, 2, then one over the coming weeks. My thought process is that if you wane off, then the withdrawal systems may be spread out over time and be less pronounced once I am officially off it. Can anyone provide feedback on that?
Support is important, so I am glad to be here with you brave souls on this journey.
All the best,
Nate
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Hey all,
I'm Nate, and I am 26 years old. I've been dipping roughly a can per day going on 10 years now. I did quit for a year in my early 20s, but picked it back up after a break-up. I have made a lot of progress in my life recently, (new city, grad school, getting in shape) and I feel that I am garnering the self-worth to accomplish quitting dip.
My plan is to wane off for the rest of September with my official quit date being October 1. I am currently limiting myself to 4 dips per day, which is already quite a cutback, and will drop that to 3, 2, then one over the coming weeks. My thought process is that if you wane off, then the withdrawal systems may be spread out over time and be less pronounced once I am officially off it. Can anyone provide feedback on that?
Support is important, so I am glad to be here with you brave souls on this journey.
All the best,
Nate
Hi Nate,
It's truly awesome that you want to quit dipping. My question to you is Why wait? Waiting only allows your addict brain to come up with "new and exciting" excuses to keep on dipping.
If you truly want to quit, then just fucking quit. Don't pussy foot around, flush that crap down the toilet, get in to December 2019 Group (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=15827.1290) and post your promise to stay nicotine free fr the next 24 hours. Keep your promise and come back tomorrow and do it again. Keep doing it every damn day and you will be quit.
1. Post your Promise
2. Keep Your Word
3. Repeat Daily (or more often as the need arises, nut at least daily)
We quit for one day, just one day. You can quit for one day can't you? then come back tomorrow and every tomorrow after that and quit again.
Too many times I have seen guys come in here saying, "I set my quit date, I'm really gonna do it", then they never show up again.
The time to quit is now.
What's it gonna be Nate???
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Welcome NateDog,
It's good you decided to quit. I've quit for 919 straight days as of today. Before that, I was planning on quitting all the time. One day --March 8, 2017-- I decided I couldn't go one more day of stuffing my face with that poison. I made a choice not to ingest any more nicotine, no matter what the cost. Every day I renew that conscious decision by making a promise not to use today and by keeping my word. It works.
In my experience, no matter how much weaning I did, the withdrawal symptoms never started going away until I was a good 10 - 14 days completely quit. Weaning just seems to prolong the withdrawal symptoms instead of alleviating them. Then, when going off nicotine completely, the 'psychological' withdrawal symptoms kicked in--and to me, they were worse than any physical withdrawals.
So my 2 cents is to not put it off. You won't be ready on October 1. You will be dreading its arrival for the rest of this month. Why torture yourself? There will never be a good day to quit, except for today.
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Great advise from these guys. But for real October 1st is WAY TOO LONG. That's a whole 19 days you are gonna let nicotine keep running your life. 19 days
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Here’s the thing...
When you’re an addict, tomorrow ALWAYS breeds another tomorrow. It’s a never ending cycle.
Weaning is a waste of time. You can step down all you want but there comes that point, when/if you actually DO quit, that you go cold turkey. Think about it. To really quit, you cease all use. Between now and then you’re just prolonging everything that makes quitting suck. Cold turkey now means that by October, you’re damn near 3 weeks Quit. Instead, according to your “plan”, you will have 3 weeks to work up a level of anxiety that’s gonna kick your ass. Trust us on that.
Think about this too... how do you know that between now and your “quit date” you won’t take that ONE dip that tips the balance from healthy skin cells, right into the fucking nightmare of cancer?
Right now, your addiction owns you. Turn it around, man. Don’t be the slave anymore.
Decide to Quit and own that shit. It’s gonna suck but own that too. Freedom comes with a price and you HAVE to pay it. Own it.
I chewed for 25 years and did 2 cans a day towards the last 10. I jumped into KTC and I owned this shit. I got involved and I stayed involved. I’m Quit 2,340 days today and I still hop on and post roll. These days... I don’t even think about dip. No lie. Freedom gets deeper and deeper and deeper.
Dude... stop wasting time.
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Quit today...you have 4 guys already who have your back today for support. Embrace that brotherhood that they are freely offering to you because of how great it is to be quit. The freedom is endless. Why wait 19 days? If you were in prison and they offered you to be released today or in 19 days which would you pick? Do you really want to be in prison for 19 more days? That seems awful. Do it today...reset your plan as weening is Big Tobacco's way of doing it since they want to pinch as much money out of you as they can.
Leap of faith man...let's do it! You'll be so happy you did!
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Nate, you remind me of myself. I joined KTC when I was 26. I signed up and posted an intro planning to quit in 7 days. Then all these random guys jumped all over my ass and told me to quit RIGHT NOW. I didn't want to but that was the support I signed up for, so I flushed the last of what I had and posted a Day 1. Thanks to those brothers, I have been quit 7 days longer than I "planned". And who knows? Maybe those extra 7 days saved my life.
There is the old saying that goes: "The road to hell is paved with good intentions." And I think this can be adapted to fighting an addiction. We can have the best intentions to quit by setting dates, stop going into the convenience stores, weaning ourselves (doesn't work BTW) but until we take ACTION, there won't be any tangible results.
Stop "stopping" and start being QUIT. Begin today. Make a promise and honor your word. Do the same thing tomorrow but worry about that later. Focus on today. Without KTC the longest I ever stopped by 21 days. Today I had the honor and privilege to post Day 1,236 by posting a promise one day at a time and keeping my word.
So tell nicotine to fuck off and join us TODAY!
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Lot's of good stuff up there Nate, only thing I want to add.
No one on this earth can predict which, dip, vape, or drag is the one that gives them the big C.
Take back your Freedom.... TODAY!!
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I had my step down all planned out too. Except I was stepping down with nicotine gum.
Luckily I joined this site, and threw the gum away.
Trust us when we say that you're playing with fire. Trust us when we say the freedom is worth the cost. Trust us when we say just dump it, and join us. I assure you - you'll be glad you did.
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Are you quitting tomorrow or are you actually going to quit? These introductions are loaded with people who have 1 post saying tomorrow. We never see them again...
I Will Quit Tomorrow – Epilogue For Ricky
Tomorrow
I have been thinking a lot about my quit this weekend. I had a friend and neighbor in Atlanta for 14 years, his son was a year older than my son. We moved there when he was one year old. So my son and Ricky’s son played together all the time and he and I became good friends. We would work in our yards, have a few beers, he would smoke and I would dip – see I started dipping after I moved to this house. Well Ricky is just your average family guy – wife 2 kids and a small landscaping company. On Saturdays we would hang out on his back patio and watch the wives play tennis and we would drink and bull shit. He would tell me I needed to quit Skoal before I got hooked on it and I would tell him to quit smoking. Well he always said he would quit tomorrow and he even did quit a couple of times for a few days. He knew he needed to quit, his dad died of lung cancer and he wanted to be around for his family.
WELL TOMORROW NEVER CAME!!! On early Friday morning Ricky (55yrs young) passed away from lung cancer leaving his wife and 2 kids and a grandson alone. Think about how fortunate we are for living in tomorrow. Our tomorrow is here today and we have the complete control to keep tomorrow here today. What do you think Ricky would have given the day he was told he had lung cancer to turn the clock back to a time before the cancer started, say maybe 100 days or so? I think he would have given everything he had to quit and not have cancer. Well we don’t have to give anything to have what he would have paid a million bucks for – to be nicotine and cancer free. So tomorrow is here today – 24 hours with your little nicotine friend tapping at the door telling you she loves you and to let her in. Remember, we are not quitting dip – we have quit. Shut the door for today and repeat that again tomorrow and so on. Take the opportunity that you have provided for yourself and stay quit for you, stay quit for your family and friends!
Cancer affects more people than just the dying victim. Sure Ricky died in a great deal of pain, he had lost over 100 pounds and could not get out of bed for over a month. His wife had to leave work to assist her husband. A once upper middle class family is now in dyer straights. The announcement asked for flowers not to be sent, instead it requested donations for the family.
NICOTINE WILL KILL YOU AND DEVASTATE YOUR FAMILY!
--FranPro
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It's time to jump in and quit Nate! No more planning, no more prepping, it's now! You have been given the best advice from some of the best Quitters I know. It's time Nate, you are here because you want to quit.
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All,
To be honest, I was a bit overwhelmed by the feedback I received. My first instinct, like many others I assume, was to tell myself that I would be fine if I just followed my plan. However, this weekend, I had a bit of a come to Jesus moment where I realized that if I know dipping is detrimental to my life and I continue using it, I am just letting it win. That a "plan" is just an excuse to prolong bettering my life. I would like to thank all of you for really driving that point home, but I just needed to see it for myself to really take control. I am happy to pass along that as of this morning all of my Copenhagen is floating with the turds somewhere, and I am done with it. Forever.
I am worried about the withdrawal and cravings, but I know I am capable. Someone mentioned there is a place where people check-in daily. Could you tell me more about that? Thanks again for your feedback and continued support guys.
Best,
Nate
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Hey Nate
Here is your December quit group>>>>> https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=15827.msg7480427#new
Go there and post roll:
Here is instructions>>>> https://ktcforum.org/index.php?topic=197.0
Post roll first thing every morning, keep your word, repeat.. simple, effective.
Get some digits and bond with your brothers and sisters, glad to have you on board.
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Atta boy @NateDog123 (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=15489), nailed your first roll post.
Drink the Kool-Aid and read up, drink a shit ton of water.
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All,
To be honest, I was a bit overwhelmed by the feedback I received. My first instinct, like many others I assume, was to tell myself that I would be fine if I just followed my plan. However, this weekend, I had a bit of a come to Jesus moment where I realized that if I know dipping is detrimental to my life and I continue using it, I am just letting it win. That a "plan" is just an excuse to prolong bettering my life. I would like to thank all of you for really driving that point home, but I just needed to see it for myself to really take control. I am happy to pass along that as of this morning all of my Copenhagen is floating with the turds somewhere, and I am done with it. Forever.
I am worried about the withdrawal and cravings, but I know I am capable. Someone mentioned there is a place where people check-in daily. Could you tell me more about that? Thanks again for your feedback and continued support guys.
Best,
Nate
I’m not gonna lie, dude... I absolutely figured you for a runner. I’ve seen it a lot in 6+ years. This site and the no bullshit approach can overwhelm some people. And...
Fear.
Fear of continuing to use ~ Fear of quitting.
It’s a horrible middle ground to be stuck in.
Glad you manned up and jumped in, bro. Don’t worry about withdrawal and cravings. They’re gonna happen... then they’re gonna go away. Freedom is gained with each moment and, dude, it is worth it. No lie.
Rock on...