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Title: On Day 11 Of Freedom
Post by: Firebird on March 09, 2020, 05:50:42 AM
Hi! I've been lurking for a while but this site is so great that I want to be a part of it.

I'm female, 35 year user of dip and cigarettes and recently moved to Scotland UK where I was convinced by a quitline to start NRT in the form of Niquitin lozenges. I didn't want NRT anyway, just support but the advisor told me I couldn't make it without some form of NRT.

So - I took their 'advice' and guess what? I became addicted to the shitty lozenges! I was up to 25 of them a day. I finally wised up when my heart rate and blood pressure were through the roof and when I researched, I knew it was the cause. And it WAS - 11 days in and my morning heart rate has gone from 120bpm to 75bpm!

I'm now dealing with all the other crap that quitting brings - insomnia (bad), sweats day and night (also very bad), cravings, anxiety, frustration etc etc.

But I am committed to this quit like I've never been committed to anything in my life! Especially after having pharma's version of the nicodemon pushed on me.

I'm very grateful to be here.
Title: Re: On Day 11 Of Freedom
Post by: Keith0617 on March 09, 2020, 08:46:38 AM
Hi! I've been lurking for a while but this site is so great that I want to be a part of it.

I'm female, 35 year user of dip and cigarettes and recently moved to Scotland UK where I was convinced by a quitline to start NRT in the form of Niquitin lozenges. I didn't want NRT anyway, just support but the advisor told me I couldn't make it without some form of NRT.

So - I took their 'advice' and guess what? I became addicted to the shitty lozenges! I was up to 25 of them a day. I finally wised up when my heart rate and blood pressure were through the roof and when I researched, I knew it was the cause. And it WAS - 11 days in and my morning heart rate has gone from 120bpm to 75bpm!

I'm now dealing with all the other crap that quitting brings - insomnia (bad), sweats day and night (also very bad), cravings, anxiety, frustration etc etc.

But I am committed to this quit like I've never been committed to anything in my life! Especially after having pharma's version of the nicodemon pushed on me.

I'm very grateful to be here.
Welcome @Firebird (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=17097) . Go over to the June 2020 group - here is the link https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=post;quote=7817018;topic=16357.0 and post roll. We wake up, piss, and post our promise to stay nicotine free first thing everyday. Then keep your promise. Make some relationships on the site. Only exchange digits through personal messages and never on the forum or here in the Intro section. Those relationships can be a life savor. Focus one day at a time - ODAAT - drink a ton of water. You can do this and we are here to help. Reach out if I can help you.
Title: Re: On Day 11 Of Freedom
Post by: ankape on March 09, 2020, 12:05:19 PM
Hi! I've been lurking for a while but this site is so great that I want to be a part of it.

I'm female, 35 year user of dip and cigarettes and recently moved to Scotland UK where I was convinced by a quitline to start NRT in the form of Niquitin lozenges. I didn't want NRT anyway, just support but the advisor told me I couldn't make it without some form of NRT.

So - I took their 'advice' and guess what? I became addicted to the shitty lozenges! I was up to 25 of them a day. I finally wised up when my heart rate and blood pressure were through the roof and when I researched, I knew it was the cause. And it WAS - 11 days in and my morning heart rate has gone from 120bpm to 75bpm!

I'm now dealing with all the other crap that quitting brings - insomnia (bad), sweats day and night (also very bad), cravings, anxiety, frustration etc etc.

But I am committed to this quit like I've never been committed to anything in my life! Especially after having pharma's version of the nicodemon pushed on me.

I'm very grateful to be here.
Welcome @Firebird (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=17097) . Go over to the June 2020 group - here is the link https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=post;quote=7817018;topic=16357.0 and post roll. We wake up, piss, and post our promise to stay nicotine free first thing everyday. Then keep your promise. Make some relationships on the site. Only exchange digits through personal messages and never on the forum or here in the Intro section. Those relationships can be a life savor. Focus one day at a time - ODAAT - drink a ton of water. You can do this and we are here to help. Reach out if I can help you.
@Firebird (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=17097)
I’m also female. 11 days cold turkey is awesome! Seems like you have the right mindset. Go post roll! Wake up, Piss, Post, Every Damn Day! and let me know if I can help. Proud to quit with you!
Title: Re: On Day 11 Of Freedom
Post by: Indrek on March 09, 2020, 12:10:22 PM
Everyting you need is right here, your quit could be easy or it could be pretty rough but you just need to hang in there and that is what we can help you do.
Title: Re: On Day 11 Of Freedom
Post by: GS9502 on March 09, 2020, 12:19:14 PM
I'm right there with you, Firebird, 11 days into my Quit. Good on ya for getting away from the nic "therapy."  Cold turkey is hard, but it needs to be hard. To paraphrase a line from one of my favorite movies, the hard is what makes it (quitting) great.

You've got this because we've got this! ODAAT.
GS9502
Title: Re: On Day 11 Of Freedom
Post by: Mmardis on March 09, 2020, 01:51:17 PM
Welcome to the group. Glad you are joining us. We are all in this together. You need us, let us know.
Title: Re: On Day 11 Of Freedom
Post by: Firebird on March 09, 2020, 01:59:26 PM
Wow!!! Overwhelmed by the welcomes and kind words of encouragement. You're all awesome. We're kicking the nic's ass for sure. No more slavedom for us!

I posted roll, too - not sure if I did it right but I'll get the hang of it as I'm here to stay!

I appreciate the tips so much, and it's great to meet another female quitter Ankape.

I'm chugging that water, had to buy a ton of sugar free gum today as I'd been on hard candy and that stuff was gonna pack on the pounds at the rate I was gettin thru it!

Sleep is lost to me - has been since day 3 but it's worth it. I hate these sweats, though - will these fade with time and are they gonna be a feature for long? My Hubs quit for a while a few years back (he now vapes - I'm working on getting him to join me in the quit but it's his choice and to be nic free is resolutely mine).

He told me that the sweats drove him insane for a while too, as well as the panicky what he calls 'nic fits'. He certainly does regret caving and going back to the nic., and said last night that he thinks vaping is for fools. I couldn't agree more - just another way of getting folk addicted (especially the kids with those frickin' Juul's)!
Title: Re: On Day 11 Of Freedom
Post by: olcpo on March 09, 2020, 05:44:56 PM
Wow!!! Overwhelmed by the welcomes and kind words of encouragement. You're all awesome. We're kicking the nic's ass for sure. No more slavedom for us!

I posted roll, too - not sure if I did it right but I'll get the hang of it as I'm here to stay!

I appreciate the tips so much, and it's great to meet another female quitter Ankape.

I'm chugging that water, had to buy a ton of sugar free gum today as I'd been on hard candy and that stuff was gonna pack on the pounds at the rate I was gettin thru it!

Sleep is lost to me - has been since day 3 but it's worth it. I hate these sweats, though - will these fade with time and are they gonna be a feature for long? My Hubs quit for a while a few years back (he now vapes - I'm working on getting him to join me in the quit but it's his choice and to be nic free is resolutely mine).

He told me that the sweats drove him insane for a while too, as well as the panicky what he calls 'nic fits'. He certainly does regret caving and going back to the nic., and said last night that he thinks vaping is for fools. I couldn't agree more - just another way of getting folk addicted (especially the kids with those frickin' Juul's)!

It will all get better. I learned to trust those words as eventually it did. Goes in stages and phases all different for each person. You are in the thick of the Mind addiction/quit part which is tough. The nicotine is gone and your brain is missing it. I was fascinated with what my body would do next. You will learn to feel it coming on and then feel it subside. Know that it is normal. Sweats, rage (was my biggy), sleepless, hunger, foggy brain... Staying busy and keeping myself physically tired helped the most. You got the water thing going, keep it up. You should start to notice things letting up at 2 to 3 weeks. A few good days and a few not so good. Blog what feel. Do it right here. Things you notice that are different and what is reoccurring. Write your feelings out here, the KTC Vets are amazing with encouragement and tips. They read what you write and offer comments and support.

You are doing it! Own your quit. One Day At A Time -ODAAT Proud To Quit With You Today - PTQWYT No Nicotine Today- NNT
Title: Re: On Day 11 Of Freedom
Post by: Firebird on March 09, 2020, 07:19:50 PM
Olcpo, thank you SO MUCH for your reply! This means so much - I am literally blown away that you would take the time to answer me with so much care.

I'm kinda intrigued by what my body will do next too. I've been doing a little research over the last few days on pubmed about how nicotine effects the body and mind, and frankly it's shocking how many processes this crap hijacks once it takes a hold. It makes sense that the body and mind needs some serious tlc to recover from all this, as well as 'tincture of time' (I love this one - I was told this by my lovely MIL).

This is why KTC is the ONLY way - ODAAT and peer support. The recipe to a life of freedom from addiction is right here.
Title: Re: On Day 11 Of Freedom
Post by: Firebird on March 10, 2020, 01:00:32 PM
Guys, today is panning out to be the roughest yet!!! Day 12.

The tension I have in my muscles is unreal, and feel like I want to crawl out of my skin. Everything is getting to me, but most especially these sweats when I am under even the slightest bit of pressure (I nearly flipped in the store earlier when the cashier was throwing my purchases down the chute and I was trying to keep up packing my bags).

I could sure do with some sleep, too - I have only had a max of 3 to 4 hours unbroken sleep since day 3 of my quit.

I feel like a whiny baby, and I ABSOLUTELY AM NOT GOING TO CAVE, but could do with some words of wisdom from any vets please that this too will pass.

Thank you guys!
Title: Re: On Day 11 Of Freedom
Post by: BrianG on March 10, 2020, 01:15:16 PM
Guys, today is panning out to be the roughest yet!!! Day 12.

The tension I have in my muscles is unreal, and feel like I want to crawl out of my skin. Everything is getting to me, but most especially these sweats when I am under even the slightest bit of pressure (I nearly flipped in the store earlier when the cashier was throwing my purchases down the chute and I was trying to keep up packing my bags).

I could sure do with some sleep, too - I have only had a max of 3 to 4 hours unbroken sleep since day 3 of my quit.

I feel like a whiny baby, and I ABSOLUTELY AM NOT GOING TO CAVE, but could do with some words of wisdom from any vets please that this too will pass.

Thank you guys!
You are in the thick of it for sure.  I will tell you it gets so much better.  I also realize that this is of no hope now.  I struggled as you are and hated to hear it got better, but it was the one thing that kept me going.  Each day that I got further away from day 1 was a good day.  There are still many hurdles to get through.  Find out what works for you.  Me, it was smokey mountain fake dip.  It helped, but to be truthful, time is what heals the most.  I would go read everything on this site when I was where you are at.  It really helped me to read others troubles and how they were dealing with them.  I tried to take the focus off of me.  Tough/  for sure, but there are some great write ups on this site that will motivate you to make it one more day.  Keep on quitting and you too will look back and some point and say I MADE IT!!!

People who I enjoy reading:
30yraddict
skoalmonster
From those, you will get off on tangents and find others who have some great words of wisdom.

YOU GOT THIS!!!
Title: Re: On Day 11 Of Freedom
Post by: Firebird on March 10, 2020, 02:10:40 PM
BrianG, thank you so much for taking the time! You've given me some real encouragement and motivation there. What doesn't help is that time passes so slowly (time distortion is a real thing apparently after quitting the nic), so it seems like each day is dragging for sure!

I'm keeping myself distracted as best as I can, but am definitely spotting triggers (going to the store, bad drivers, dealing with tricky people). I guess our nerves are on edge in the middle of all this, so we have to watch out for ourselves for a while.

I'm going to check out 30yraddict and Skoalmonster's posts for sure. Your reply alone has helped hugely today - I cannot thank you enough.  :)

Title: Re: On Day 11 Of Freedom
Post by: Keith0617 on March 10, 2020, 03:10:08 PM
Guys, today is panning out to be the roughest yet!!! Day 12.

The tension I have in my muscles is unreal, and feel like I want to crawl out of my skin. Everything is getting to me, but most especially these sweats when I am under even the slightest bit of pressure (I nearly flipped in the store earlier when the cashier was throwing my purchases down the chute and I was trying to keep up packing my bags).

I could sure do with some sleep, too - I have only had a max of 3 to 4 hours unbroken sleep since day 3 of my quit.

I feel like a whiny baby, and I ABSOLUTELY AM NOT GOING TO CAVE, but could do with some words of wisdom from any vets please that this too will pass.

Thank you guys!
Try to focus one day at a time (ODAAT) and maybe even 1 hour at a time. I think it really does make it easier. Worry about tomorrow or next week when thy come. Check your messages as I will shoot you my digits. Exchanging digits is normal but only through messages. Make a few relationships. Thet will come in handy when having difficult days or moments. @Firebird (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=17097) you can do this.
Title: Re: On Day 11 Of Freedom
Post by: Firebird on March 10, 2020, 05:13:17 PM
Guys, today is panning out to be the roughest yet!!! Day 12.

The tension I have in my muscles is unreal, and feel like I want to crawl out of my skin. Everything is getting to me, but most especially these sweats when I am under even the slightest bit of pressure (I nearly flipped in the store earlier when the cashier was throwing my purchases down the chute and I was trying to keep up packing my bags).

I could sure do with some sleep, too - I have only had a max of 3 to 4 hours unbroken sleep since day 3 of my quit.

I feel like a whiny baby, and I ABSOLUTELY AM NOT GOING TO CAVE, but could do with some words of wisdom from any vets please that this too will pass.

Thank you guys!
Try to focus one day at a time (ODAAT) and maybe even 1 hour at a time. I think it really does make it easier. Worry about tomorrow or next week when thy come. Check your messages as I will shoot you my digits. Exchanging digits is normal but only through messages. Make a few relationships. Thet will come in handy when having difficult days or moments. @Firebird (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=17097) you can do this.

Thank you greatly, Keith! I really appreciate you reaching out to me. Still not caving, taking it OHAAT today. The kindness and camaraderie of KTC knows no bounds  :)
Title: Re: On Day 11 Of Freedom
Post by: EXBEARHAG on March 10, 2020, 10:29:50 PM
Guys, today is panning out to be the roughest yet!!! Day 12.

The tension I have in my muscles is unreal, and feel like I want to crawl out of my skin. Everything is getting to me, but most especially these sweats when I am under even the slightest bit of pressure (I nearly flipped in the store earlier when the cashier was throwing my purchases down the chute and I was trying to keep up packing my bags).

I could sure do with some sleep, too - I have only had a max of 3 to 4 hours unbroken sleep since day 3 of my quit.

I feel like a whiny baby, and I ABSOLUTELY AM NOT GOING TO CAVE, but could do with some words of wisdom from any vets please that this too will pass.

Thank you guys!
Try to focus one day at a time (ODAAT) and maybe even 1 hour at a time. I think it really does make it easier. Worry about tomorrow or next week when thy come. Check your messages as I will shoot you my digits. Exchanging digits is normal but only through messages. Make a few relationships. Thet will come in handy when having difficult days or moments. @Firebird (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=17097) you can do this.

Thank you greatly, Keith! I really appreciate you reaching out to me. Still not caving, taking it OHAAT today. The kindness and camaraderie of KTC knows no bounds  :)

@Firebird (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=17097). Welcome. I had similar symptoms.  I dipped continuously during the day and night and relied heavily on nicotine to deal with stress.  When I stopped, I had to change every routine in my life.  The truth is, the more time and space you put in between you and using, the "easier" it will get.  It just makes sense.  The key, as Keith mentioned, is to shorten time frames (ODAAT), make your promise EEDD (Early Every Damn Day), and make some relationships so that breaking that promise is less likely.  I've found exercise to be very helpful (even in the middle of the night).  Also, come in here (intros) and blog out how you are feeling, doing, your frustrations, rant and rage.  It's therapeutic and tracks your progress. 

You've got this girl.  Hold that line and things will improve.

PTBQWYT my friend
Title: Re: On Day 11 Of Freedom
Post by: ankape on March 10, 2020, 11:29:18 PM
Guys, today is panning out to be the roughest yet!!! Day 12.

The tension I have in my muscles is unreal, and feel like I want to crawl out of my skin. Everything is getting to me, but most especially these sweats when I am under even the slightest bit of pressure (I nearly flipped in the store earlier when the cashier was throwing my purchases down the chute and I was trying to keep up packing my bags).

I could sure do with some sleep, too - I have only had a max of 3 to 4 hours unbroken sleep since day 3 of my quit.

I feel like a whiny baby, and I ABSOLUTELY AM NOT GOING TO CAVE, but could do with some words of wisdom from any vets please that this too will pass.

Thank you guys!
Try to focus one day at a time (ODAAT) and maybe even 1 hour at a time. I think it really does make it easier. Worry about tomorrow or next week when thy come. Check your messages as I will shoot you my digits. Exchanging digits is normal but only through messages. Make a few relationships. Thet will come in handy when having difficult days or moments. @Firebird (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=17097) you can do this.

Thank you greatly, Keith! I really appreciate you reaching out to me. Still not caving, taking it OHAAT today. The kindness and camaraderie of KTC knows no bounds  :)

@Firebird (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=17097). Welcome. I had similar symptoms.  I dipped continuously during the day and night and relied heavily on nicotine to deal with stress.  When I stopped, I had to change every routine in my life.  The truth is, the more time and space you put in between you and using, the "easier" it will get.  It just makes sense.  The key, as Keith mentioned, is to shorten time frames (ODAAT), make your promise EEDD (Early Every Damn Day), and make some relationships so that breaking that promise is less likely.  I've found exercise to be very helpful (even in the middle of the night).  Also, come in here (intros) and blog out how you are feeling, doing, your frustrations, rant and rage.  It's therapeutic and tracks your progress. 

You've got this girl.  Hold that line and things will improve.

PTBQWYT my friend
I nodded my head the whole time I read that. I hear you! I was once told, “good days follow bad days” and have found it to be very true. Quitting is a pendulum. You will feel great soon! Hang tough girl.
Also, like HAG said...keeping note of how you feel as you go might be very helpful later.

Title: Re: On Day 11 Of Freedom
Post by: Firebird on March 11, 2020, 06:35:01 AM
Thank you so much Exbearhag and Ankape. I'm hanging in there!

I think time is going to be the big factor Exbearhag - and you can't hurry that one up! Sleep was a bit better last night. Nearly 5 hours uninterrupted! :) Frickin' sweats are still present today, though - wish I could get rid of those as well as the anxiety. I'm doing 4,7,8 breathing and my meditation app. to help.

I'm planning on having a low key day today at home - the last week or so has been a bit hectic. I'll need to keep my mind occupied though so that the nicodemon doesn't sneak in there.
Title: Re: On Day 11 Of Freedom
Post by: Firebird on March 11, 2020, 06:24:33 PM
Uuuuuuuggggghhhhhh.......... :-\

It's just after 10pm here on day 13, and I feel truly grim! Just had a couple of hours with rolling hot flashes, irritability, restless legs and the urge to scream......evenings seem to be kicking me hard, especially the last couple for some reason. Sitting here chewing my gum like a madwoman, and grateful for my supportive Husband who has been through this crap himself once before, so totally gets it.

Can anyone relate? I thought I was gonna lose it there for a bit...... :o

On a good note, as some of you may know I am in the UK right now and the price of cigarettes here has just hit $14.00 a pack!  Dip isn't widely available, so I dunno on that score but I do know that there has never been a better time to quit the nicodemon here!

The move here and having to quit dip due to availability (and my own choice too) and the miserable earlier NRT experience with lozenges has actually turned out for the good for me. Now if only things would start to calm down a little with this hell. Committed to quitting today, tomorrow and always though, but whooo - this is tough!! Respect to all the veterans here who have stayed the course and are showing us rookies the way! :)
Title: Re: On Day 11 Of Freedom
Post by: GS9502 on March 11, 2020, 09:22:53 PM
Uuuuuuuggggghhhhhh.......... :-\

It's just after 10pm here on day 13, and I feel truly grim! Just had a couple of hours with rolling hot flashes, irritability, restless legs and the urge to scream......evenings seem to be kicking me hard, especially the last couple for some reason. Sitting here chewing my gum like a madwoman, and grateful for my supportive Husband who has been through this crap himself once before, so totally gets it.

Can anyone relate? I thought I was gonna lose it there for a bit...... :o

On a good note, as some of you may know I am in the UK right now and the price of cigarettes here has just hit $14.00 a pack!  Dip isn't widely available, so I dunno on that score but I do know that there has never been a better time to quit the nicodemon here!

The move here and having to quit dip due to availability (and my own choice too) and the miserable earlier NRT experience with lozenges has actually turned out for the good for me. Now if only things would start to calm down a little with this hell. Committed to quitting today, tomorrow and always though, but whooo - this is tough!! Respect to all the veterans here who have stayed the course and are showing us rookies the way! :)

I'm with you, Firebird. Had a hard challenge myself today. The ballfield has always been a dipping bonanza. Well, today was my son's first game since I quit (it's been raining like a bitch here in GA for the past two weeks), and dear God, I wanted a dip!!!

I didn't, though. I packed my cheek full of sunflower seeds, drank plenty of water, and switched out to a Teaza cinnamon pouch after a while. This was a test, though. It was just 2 five-inning scrimmages. Tournament days are going to be straight up hell! I'll deal with that day when it comes up, though.  For now, I beat the urge, so I'm going to bed.

In the immortal words of Don Cornelius, "I wish you love, peace, and soul!"
Matthew/GS9502
Title: Re: On Day 11 Of Freedom
Post by: Firebird on March 12, 2020, 09:09:42 AM
Uuuuuuuggggghhhhhh.......... :-\

It's just after 10pm here on day 13, and I feel truly grim! Just had a couple of hours with rolling hot flashes, irritability, restless legs and the urge to scream......evenings seem to be kicking me hard, especially the last couple for some reason. Sitting here chewing my gum like a madwoman, and grateful for my supportive Husband who has been through this crap himself once before, so totally gets it.

Can anyone relate? I thought I was gonna lose it there for a bit...... :o

On a good note, as some of you may know I am in the UK right now and the price of cigarettes here has just hit $14.00 a pack!  Dip isn't widely available, so I dunno on that score but I do know that there has never been a better time to quit the nicodemon here!

The move here and having to quit dip due to availability (and my own choice too) and the miserable earlier NRT experience with lozenges has actually turned out for the good for me. Now if only things would start to calm down a little with this hell. Committed to quitting today, tomorrow and always though, but whooo - this is tough!! Respect to all the veterans here who have stayed the course and are showing us rookies the way! :)

I'm with you, Firebird. Had a hard challenge myself today. The ballfield has always been a dipping bonanza. Well, today was my son's first game since I quit (it's been raining like a bitch here in GA for the past two weeks), and dear God, I wanted a dip!!!

I didn't, though. I packed my cheek full of sunflower seeds, drank plenty of water, and switched out to a Teaza cinnamon pouch after a while. This was a test, though. It was just 2 five-inning scrimmages. Tournament days are going to be straight up hell! I'll deal with that day when it comes up, though.  For now, I beat the urge, so I'm going to bed.

In the immortal words of Don Cornelius, "I wish you love, peace, and soul!"
Matthew/GS9502

So proud of you that you held up, Matthew! Way to go!!! You've also successfully identified a major trigger for you, and used ways to cope in that situation. I am absolutely certain that you're going to make it, sir! :D
Title: Re: On Day 11 Of Freedom
Post by: EXBEARHAG on March 12, 2020, 08:00:18 PM
Uuuuuuuggggghhhhhh.......... :-\

It's just after 10pm here on day 13, and I feel truly grim! Just had a couple of hours with rolling hot flashes, irritability, restless legs and the urge to scream......evenings seem to be kicking me hard, especially the last couple for some reason. Sitting here chewing my gum like a madwoman, and grateful for my supportive Husband who has been through this crap himself once before, so totally gets it.

Can anyone relate? I thought I was gonna lose it there for a bit...... :o

On a good note, as some of you may know I am in the UK right now and the price of cigarettes here has just hit $14.00 a pack!  Dip isn't widely available, so I dunno on that score but I do know that there has never been a better time to quit the nicodemon here!

The move here and having to quit dip due to availability (and my own choice too) and the miserable earlier NRT experience with lozenges has actually turned out for the good for me. Now if only things would start to calm down a little with this hell. Committed to quitting today, tomorrow and always though, but whooo - this is tough!! Respect to all the veterans here who have stayed the course and are showing us rookies the way! :)

I'm with you, Firebird. Had a hard challenge myself today. The ballfield has always been a dipping bonanza. Well, today was my son's first game since I quit (it's been raining like a bitch here in GA for the past two weeks), and dear God, I wanted a dip!!!

I didn't, though. I packed my cheek full of sunflower seeds, drank plenty of water, and switched out to a Teaza cinnamon pouch after a while. This was a test, though. It was just 2 five-inning scrimmages. Tournament days are going to be straight up hell! I'll deal with that day when it comes up, though.  For now, I beat the urge, so I'm going to bed.

In the immortal words of Don Cornelius, "I wish you love, peace, and soul!"
Matthew/GS9502

So proud of you that you held up, Matthew! Way to go!!! You've also successfully identified a major trigger for you, and used ways to cope in that situation. I am absolutely certain that you're going to make it, sir! :D

You two are in the thick of it.  Hold the line!!  It get's easier but you can't get there before you travel through here...where you are.  Sorry that was confusing but I think you get it.  Keep it up.  Stack those days and you will be grateful.

PTBQWYT my friends
Title: Re: On Day 11 Of Freedom
Post by: Firebird on March 13, 2020, 05:58:30 AM
Uuuuuuuggggghhhhhh.......... :-\

It's just after 10pm here on day 13, and I feel truly grim! Just had a couple of hours with rolling hot flashes, irritability, restless legs and the urge to scream......evenings seem to be kicking me hard, especially the last couple for some reason. Sitting here chewing my gum like a madwoman, and grateful for my supportive Husband who has been through this crap himself once before, so totally gets it.

Can anyone relate? I thought I was gonna lose it there for a bit...... :o

On a good note, as some of you may know I am in the UK right now and the price of cigarettes here has just hit $14.00 a pack!  Dip isn't widely available, so I dunno on that score but I do know that there has never been a better time to quit the nicodemon here!

The move here and having to quit dip due to availability (and my own choice too) and the miserable earlier NRT experience with lozenges has actually turned out for the good for me. Now if only things would start to calm down a little with this hell. Committed to quitting today, tomorrow and always though, but whooo - this is tough!! Respect to all the veterans here who have stayed the course and are showing us rookies the way! :)

I'm with you, Firebird. Had a hard challenge myself today. The ballfield has always been a dipping bonanza. Well, today was my son's first game since I quit (it's been raining like a bitch here in GA for the past two weeks), and dear God, I wanted a dip!!!

I didn't, though. I packed my cheek full of sunflower seeds, drank plenty of water, and switched out to a Teaza cinnamon pouch after a while. This was a test, though. It was just 2 five-inning scrimmages. Tournament days are going to be straight up hell! I'll deal with that day when it comes up, though.  For now, I beat the urge, so I'm going to bed.

In the immortal words of Don Cornelius, "I wish you love, peace, and soul!"
Matthew/GS9502

So proud of you that you held up, Matthew! Way to go!!! You've also successfully identified a major trigger for you, and used ways to cope in that situation. I am absolutely certain that you're going to make it, sir! :D

You two are in the thick of it.  Hold the line!!  It get's easier but you can't get there before you travel through here...where you are.  Sorry that was confusing but I think you get it.  Keep it up.  Stack those days and you will be grateful.

PTBQWYT my friends

Thank you, ExBearhag. This is what we need to hear from a veteran. :) I appreciate this so much.
Title: Re: On Day 11 Of Freedom
Post by: GS9502 on March 13, 2020, 07:17:26 AM
Uuuuuuuggggghhhhhh.......... :-\

It's just after 10pm here on day 13, and I feel truly grim! Just had a couple of hours with rolling hot flashes, irritability, restless legs and the urge to scream......evenings seem to be kicking me hard, especially the last couple for some reason. Sitting here chewing my gum like a madwoman, and grateful for my supportive Husband who has been through this crap himself once before, so totally gets it.

Can anyone relate? I thought I was gonna lose it there for a bit...... :o

On a good note, as some of you may know I am in the UK right now and the price of cigarettes here has just hit $14.00 a pack!  Dip isn't widely available, so I dunno on that score but I do know that there has never been a better time to quit the nicodemon here!

The move here and having to quit dip due to availability (and my own choice too) and the miserable earlier NRT experience with lozenges has actually turned out for the good for me. Now if only things would start to calm down a little with this hell. Committed to quitting today, tomorrow and always though, but whooo - this is tough!! Respect to all the veterans here who have stayed the course and are showing us rookies the way! :)

I'm with you, Firebird. Had a hard challenge myself today. The ballfield has always been a dipping bonanza. Well, today was my son's first game since I quit (it's been raining like a bitch here in GA for the past two weeks), and dear God, I wanted a dip!!!

I didn't, though. I packed my cheek full of sunflower seeds, drank plenty of water, and switched out to a Teaza cinnamon pouch after a while. This was a test, though. It was just 2 five-inning scrimmages. Tournament days are going to be straight up hell! I'll deal with that day when it comes up, though.  For now, I beat the urge, so I'm going to bed.

In the immortal words of Don Cornelius, "I wish you love, peace, and soul!"
Matthew/GS9502

So proud of you that you held up, Matthew! Way to go!!! You've also successfully identified a major trigger for you, and used ways to cope in that situation. I am absolutely certain that you're going to make it, sir! :D

You two are in the thick of it.  Hold the line!!  It get's easier but you can't get there before you travel through here...where you are.  Sorry that was confusing but I think you get it.  Keep it up.  Stack those days and you will be grateful.

PTBQWYT my friends

Thank you, ExBearhag. This is what we need to hear from a veteran. :) I appreciate this so much.
Thanks for the support ExBearHag. My philosophy in this is, "If your path demands you to walk through hell, walk like you own the place."
Title: Humbly Returning.......
Post by: Firebird on October 10, 2020, 03:22:25 PM
I am very humbly asking if I may rejoin this wonderfully supportive forum after I caved on my first try at quitting after 23 days back in March. 

Myself and my Husband contracted Covid - my symptoms were not as bad as his, he unfortunately had a dreadful time. I started back using just 2 days before we became symptomatic. I can't believe I caved - I went back to dip AND nicotine lozenges to supplement. I am so ashamed of myself!

But - I have made a fresh commitment and despite having a higher usage of nicotine than last time I quit, I am now on my 19th day of cold turkey and I really could use the roll call and camaraderie and support right now if you'll have me, please.

Hoping my old quit buddy Matt is still around on here and going strong if you're reading this, my friend.
Title: Re: Humbly Returning.......
Post by: klark on October 11, 2020, 01:34:27 PM
I am very humbly asking if I may rejoin this wonderfully supportive forum after I caved on my first try at quitting after 23 days back in March. 

Myself and my Husband contracted Covid - my symptoms were not as bad as his, he unfortunately had a dreadful time. I started back using just 2 days before we became symptomatic. I can't believe I caved - I went back to dip AND nicotine lozenges to supplement. I am so ashamed of myself!

But - I have made a fresh commitment and despite having a higher usage of nicotine than last time I quit, I am now on my 19th day of cold turkey and I really could use the roll call and camaraderie and support right now if you'll have me, please.

Hoping my old quit buddy Matt is still around on here and going strong if you're reading this, my friend.

That is a sorry ass excuse for caving, and if you are going to cave that easily with all of the resources you have here and you obviously did not use them, why should anyone on this forum trust you?
Title: Re: Humbly Returning.......
Post by: Zeus on October 11, 2020, 04:04:08 PM
I am very humbly asking if I may rejoin this wonderfully supportive

I suggest you post roll call in whatever HOF group you would now be part of. Then tell that group what happened. Then go to your previous group that you belonged to and tell them why you caved.

I've had a crazy life since I quit, but I've shown up for it ever day no matter what. Do the same or you don't stand a chance.
Title: Re: On Day 11 Of Freedom
Post by: MN_Engineer on October 12, 2020, 04:12:59 PM
@Firebird (https://ktcforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=17097) each quitter is allowed one introduction. I merged your new one with your original introduction.