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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: mikegooch on June 10, 2012, 06:08:00 PM
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Hey All.. I had my 1st chew when I was 6 years old! I am now 44. 1st time I tried to quit I was 18. I am an auctioneer for a living. I use my mouth! I have had 5 surgeries for gum grafts in my lower lip. Now my periodontist wants to do another. Guys.. I am a pretty techie redneck.. I've been trynig to figure out how to post here since about midnight last night! At 11:45 last night, I dumped 2 cans of skoal off my back patio ( that is no kidding probably 25 cans I've dumped this year maybe more). At 5AM I was awake and headed on a 12 mile drive to get more. I had two dips this morning.. then dumped another can.. I have quit 1000 times or more.. I really want to stop. I am powerless over dip! Powerless! I am a true addict. I know all this stuff. This time around - 10 hours no dip! The last time I quit was in April of this year. Made it a little over a week. I had a big auction on Sat Apr 21 in Lex KY.. I didnt get much sleep the night before and I knew that a quick trip to the store and i would have my energy back. How do I get into a quit group and get to the roll call place. Am i just freaking out here or is it kind of hard to find? I am no stranger to recovery groups.. 9 years sober if I make it to July 17th 2012! I just cannot kill the can!!!!!! Honestly as I post this I am seriously thinking about heading to the store!
Thanks.. Mike Gooch.. (getgooched@gmail.com (http://mailto:getgooched@gmail.com) or FB - Mike Gooch)
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Hey Gooch, i felt the same way last Monday when I threw a full can of Kodiak in the trash. It is tough but come here daily post roll and just read some of the stories and words of wisdom these guys have. I am going to warn you that the first week is hell,just don't think about dip,chew gum,sunflower seeds and drink lots of water and you will make it.
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Mike, I'm not convinced youre ready! I've been where you are, I didn't start as young as you but I've been a addict as long as you have. Every few months for the past 20 yrs. I've been where you are now! The gum grafts, tooth lose, sores had it all. Dumped cans, only to drive the 70 miles one way to town for more dip. We are fucking addicts and quitting is painful. You are 44 yrs. old it's time to manup and take control of your life.
As far as posting roll it can be confusing at first but will come with time! A lot of us screwed it up first few times. Click on this link Sept. 2012 HOF (http://http//forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6493) and follow the directionsFound in the welcome center on how to post roll.
Mike if you are ready I'm with you. Check your inbox I'll drop you a intro and pm me if you want to trade #'s
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Hey All.. I had my 1st chew when I was 6 years old! I am now 44. 1st time I tried to quit I was 18. I am an auctioneer for a living. I use my mouth! I have had 5 surgeries for gum grafts in my lower lip. Now my periodontist wants to do another. Guys.. I am a pretty techie redneck.. I've been trynig to figure out how to post here since about midnight last night! At 11:45 last night, I dumped 2 cans of skoal off my back patio ( that is no kidding probably 25 cans I've dumped this year maybe more). At 5AM I was awake and headed on a 12 mile drive to get more. I had two dips this morning.. then dumped another can.. I have quit 1000 times or more.. I really want to stop. I am powerless over dip! Powerless! I am a true addict. I know all this stuff. This time around - 10 hours no dip! The last time I quit was in April of this year. Made it a little over a week. I had a big auction on Sat Apr 21 in Lex KY.. I didnt get much sleep the night before and I knew that a quick trip to the store and i would have my energy back. How do I get into a quit group and get to the roll call place. Am i just freaking out here or is it kind of hard to find? I am no stranger to recovery groups.. 9 years sober if I make it to July 17th 2012! I just cannot kill the can!!!!!! Honestly as I post this I am seriously thinking about heading to the store!
Thanks.. Mike Gooch.. (getgooched@gmail.com (http://mailto:getgooched@gmail.com) or FB - Mike Gooch)
Gooch. I consider myself a tech guy too but had a heck of a time figuring out how to post roll. Because you are quitting now, you will be in the Hof September 2012 class. You need to click quit groups then click on the Sept class. Find the most recent post that has a list of quitters, then hit "quote" on the top right. After that you need to CUT everything from the bottom box and paste it to the top box. Once everything is in the top box you just add your name and re-post.
Hope I didn't confuse you more! Good luck with the quit. I've gone a week so far. Everyday it gets better and you learn a little more. Give it hell!!!
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After yesterdays post. I did cave last night! I dipped and chewed! Hell I never chew! I was honestly trying to get as much in me as I could! I dumped it again this morning! I finally figured out how to post in roll call.. I'm down for the day.. From what i read that is my oath for today that I will not dip.. chew.. or partake in nic in any form whatsoever! You go it! Thanks Wade and Deisel and other guy (sorry I cant remember your name and the fuzzy head is here!).. for the msgs! I need all the help and support and prayers you have to spare guys! I'm here in the Sept herd of quitters (winners)... I do have a question for you all.. I have a lot of shit to do this week. How do you focus when you get "the fuzzy head"? I think you all know what I'm talking about. It's during the 1st several days (maybe weeks?) of quit and seems like the lights are on but nobody's home.. I can be talking to someone and not know what the hell they just said?? Let us pray now! Gooch
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After yesterdays post. I did cave last night! I dipped and chewed! Hell I never chew! I was honestly trying to get as much in me as I could! I dumped it again this morning! I finally figured out how to post in roll call.. I'm down for the day.. From what i read that is my oath for today that I will not dip.. chew.. or partake in nic in any form whatsoever! You go it! Thanks Wade and Deisel and other guy (sorry I cant remember your name and the fuzzy head is here!).. for the msgs! I need all the help and support and prayers you have to spare guys! I'm here in the Sept herd of quitters (winners)... I do have a question for you all.. I have a lot of shit to do this week. How do you focus when you get "the fuzzy head"? I think you all know what I'm talking about. It's during the 1st several days (maybe weeks?) of quit and seems like the lights are on but nobody's home.. I can be talking to someone and not know what the hell they just said?? Let us pray now! Gooch
Gooch,
Okay man, you posted roll yesterday and caved on Day 1. I am not sure you are ready for this site. You need to go apologize to your September group and ask them if you can post in there. A cave on day 1, they may not want you back. This site is not only about your quit but also the quit of your brothers in your group. September is a real solid group, don't bring them down if you aren't ready for this. If you truly are ready I, and many others on this site, will help you any way we can. In short, man up or get out.
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I posted yesterday but didn't do roll call! I just said I was ready! In AA we dont kick a fucker when he's down and really struggling and trying we try to help him. I have spent hours on this site tryng to figure the shit out for he past 2 days! When I posted today I said i was in for the day? I meant it.. Im down for the day!!! Now lets do this and don't give me any shit.. Gooch
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I posted yesterday but didn't do roll call! I just said I was ready! In AA we dont kick a fucker when he's down and really struggling and trying we try to help him. I have spent hours on this site tryng to figure the shit out for he past 2 days! When I posted today I said i was in for the day? I meant it.. Im down for the day!!! Now lets do this and don't give me any shit.. Gooch
Are you sure your ready for this site?
We quit hardcore here and yes we give people shit when they cave, we call it accountability!
I wont jump on you but I will warn you if your not ready to quit this stuff then dont be here but if you are do it OUR WAY and you will win.
I am quit with you today...
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I emailed you with some numbers and I do hope you use the numbers and read how and what this site is all about, we may seem quite harsh but trust me with out the harsness and the accountability we would have all failed we are here for a reason so drink the quit kool-aid and kick the nic bitches ass!
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Gooch - Don't missunderstand...everybody is effing pumped that you're here. We're just not very warm and fuzzy. But this site thrives on "tough love." Just like you have good days and bad days, so does the demeanor of this site. But one thing doesn't change is our commitment...commitment to quitting, commitment to you and the commitment we expect from you.
Stay stong, stay quit, brother.
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Read this (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6349)
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don't give me any shit
Excuse me? You're in no position to bark any order. And guess what? If you're expecting the AA treatment here, you're better off logging out right now and coming back when you really mean business.
Dean
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don't give me any shit
Excuse me? You're in no position to bark any order. And guess what? If you're expecting the AA treatment here, you're better off logging out right now and coming back when you really mean business.
Dean
2,795 (A)
1,175 (T)
Yeah.....I lol'd at that part.
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don't give me any shit
Excuse me? You're in no position to bark any order. And guess what? If you're expecting the AA treatment here, you're better off logging out right now and coming back when you really mean business.
Dean
2,795 (A)
1,175 (T)
Yeah.....I lol'd at that part.
Pisses me off beyond belief. Mainly because he's referencing AA, like it's a Holy Grail of quitting. Fact is, AA works ONLY if you're THERE, man...if YOU are ready to wallop addiction. Short of that? Fucking stay home. Waste of everyone's time otherwise. AA isn't going to call you onto the carpet for your bullshit. KTC will.
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don't give me any shit
Excuse me? You're in no position to bark any order. And guess what? If you're expecting the AA treatment here, you're better off logging out right now and coming back when you really mean business.
Dean
2,795 (A)
1,175 (T)
Yeah.....I lol'd at that part.
Pisses me off beyond belief. Mainly because he's referencing AA, like it's a Holy Grail of quitting. Fact is, AA works ONLY if you're THERE, man...if YOU are ready to wallop addiction. Short of that? Fucking stay home. Waste of everyone's time otherwise. AA isn't going to call you onto the carpet for your bullshit. KTC will.
Yup....
And we need to tell the young padwan warrior about the fog....yes it sucks......glad I am 70 days quit....but if I had to do it again.....I would send my wife and kids to the beach for 4 days and let me grind the suck on my own while watching porn, jerking in between watching Avatar, Star Wars and Lord of the Rings :)
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don't give me any shit
Excuse me? You're in no position to bark any order. And guess what? If you're expecting the AA treatment here, you're better off logging out right now and coming back when you really mean business.
Dean
2,795 (A)
1,175 (T)
Yeah.....I lol'd at that part.
Pisses me off beyond belief. Mainly because he's referencing AA, like it's a Holy Grail of quitting. Fact is, AA works ONLY if you're THERE, man...if YOU are ready to wallop addiction. Short of that? Fucking stay home. Waste of everyone's time otherwise. AA isn't going to call you onto the carpet for your bullshit. KTC will.
Yup....
And we need to tell the young padwan warrior about the fog....yes it sucks......glad I am 70 days quit....but if I had to do it again.....I would send my wife and kids to the beach for 4 days and let me grind the suck on my own while watching porn, jerking in between watching Avatar, Star Wars and Lord of the Rings :)
Pad wan warrior? More like jar jar binks. Need some ball cuddling sweetie? That's another site, this is a QUIT site not a "I'll try really hard but choose to fuck up because My big boy pants fell off, so can I have a hug and a bedtime story" site. You wanna quit? Then do it . You wanna be a caving , trying , hoping , jello spine? Then fuck off. Get serious or get out. My guess is you'll take your ball and go home. I doubt you have the intestinal fortitude to quit , nor the desire .
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All you fuckers talking shit here!!! Why dont you email a phone number for some support instead of talking shit.. Thats what I need more than your pussy talk! Guess what pussy boys!!! Day 3!!! Sticking that up your ass!! the nic bitches.. truthfully you're all acting like a nic bitch... bitch.bitch.bitch. nag.nag.nag Leave me the fuck alone and let me get on with my quit already..
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All you fuckers talking shit here!!! Why dont you email a phone number for some support instead of talking shit.. Thats what I need more than your pussy talk! Guess what pussy boys!!! Day 3!!! Sticking that up your ass!! the nic bitches.. truthfully you're all acting like a nic bitch... bitch.bitch.bitch. nag.nag.nag Leave me the fuck alone and let me get on with my quit already..
The force is strong in this one.
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All you fuckers talking shit here!!! Why dont you email a phone number for some support instead of talking shit.. Thats what I need more than your pussy talk! Guess what pussy boys!!! Day 3!!! Sticking that up your ass!! the nic bitches.. truthfully you're all acting like a nic bitch... bitch.bitch.bitch. nag.nag.nag Leave me the fuck alone and let me get on with my quit already..
The force is strong in this one.
I think you are finally getting it Gooch!
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All you fuckers talking shit here!!! Why dont you email a phone number for some support instead of talking shit.. Thats what I need more than your pussy talk! Guess what pussy boys!!! Day 3!!! Sticking that up your ass!! the nic bitches.. truthfully you're all acting like a nic bitch... bitch.bitch.bitch. nag.nag.nag Leave me the fuck alone and let me get on with my quit already..
That's better
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I've burnt the ship today fellas... if you don't know that story say so and I'll post it.. Has to do with Napolean and a bunch of soldiers and them fighting their ass off to live.. O hell. I'll tell you now.. Nappy.. pulled his army up to an island.. unload the troops.. then he set the ship on fire..burnt it to a crisp right into the ocean! He told his boys they were outnumbered 4 to 1.. and the only way off the island was to fight their way off the island! Have you burnt your ship girls?? I told every body I knew today that I have quit dipping for good ( and meant it).. Some of them has seen this over and over over... Not this time! I AM QUIT!! I love me some quittys! Gooch
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I've burnt the ship today fellas... if you don't know that story say so and I'll post it.. Has to do with Napolean and a bunch of soldiers and them fighting their ass off to live.. O hell. I'll tell you now.. Nappy.. pulled his army up to an island.. unload the troops.. then he set the ship on fire..burnt it to a crisp right into the ocean! He told his boys they were outnumbered 4 to 1.. and the only way off the island was to fight their way off the island! Have you burnt your ship girls?? I told every body I knew today that I have quit dipping for good ( and meant it).. Some of them has seen this over and over over... Not this time! I AM QUIT!! I love me some quittys! Gooch
Burning the boat is a good thing indeed. However, at this point do not focus upon never dipping again. Your one and only goal at this point is to not dip today. Tomorrow morning you wake up and make your promise again. Then your only goal is to keep that promise.
Where you are now well it's going to be hard for a while. So hard that the concept of forever can start to put cracks in a new quit.
Today. That's all you need to worry about. Cause you sure as hell aint goin to make forever if you can't make today.
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I've burnt the ship today fellas... if you don't know that story say so and I'll post it.. Has to do with Napolean and a bunch of soldiers and them fighting their ass off to live.. O hell. I'll tell you now.. Nappy.. pulled his army up to an island.. unload the troops.. then he set the ship on fire..burnt it to a crisp right into the ocean! He told his boys they were outnumbered 4 to 1.. and the only way off the island was to fight their way off the island! Have you burnt your ship girls?? I told every body I knew today that I have quit dipping for good ( and meant it).. Some of them has seen this over and over over... Not this time! I AM QUIT!! I love me some quittys! Gooch
Burning the boat is a good thing indeed. However, at this point do not focus upon never dipping again. Your one and only goal at this point is to not dip today. Tomorrow morning you wake up and make your promise again. Then your only goal is to keep that promise.
Where you are now well it's going to be hard for a while. So hard that the concept of forever can start to put cracks in a new quit.
Today. That's all you need to worry about. Cause you sure as hell aint goin to make forever if you can't make today.
Yes, love the attitude, but it's okay to focus on quitting for today right now. In fact, it's probably better to only focus on what you can control....TODAY. There'll be plenty of time to wax philosophically about forever later.
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Keep rollin Gooch.......don't give up. Check your inbox (1).
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Thanks fellas.. Today it is!!
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Thanks fellas.. Today it is!!
Nice Gooch, Check your inbox. Use my number anytime you need.
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Before dark i was in the field looking at my cows with my dog Cash... I realized I was not freaking out over a dip! Wasn't chewing a wad of gum.. sucking on a blow pop a piece of candy.. no fake dip.. I was just being.. there... I guess a live human being free on the earth! I also realized that most of my life I have been addicted to something.. most times multiples of somethings.. The one constant has always been tobacco.. My dad let me get a pack of Work Horse when i was 6 years old.. at Christmas.. He thought I'd get sick and that's be the end of it.. I did get sick.. a lot.. but i kept on forcing it in there until I was hooked.. by 12 i am sure I was a full blown addict.. and have been addicted for the last 32 years.. tobacco was really the first and the last.. the real gateway drug into a lot of other shit too.. tobacco and tittys have been the main addictions for the past 9 years.. I don't give a damn what ya'll say.. I'm not giving up tits! Gooch
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I was just being.. there... I guess a live human being free on the earth!
Grab hold, never let go.
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I am with you gooch I am not giving up titties either.
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Gooch,
For the first few days I was pretty certain you had a sandy vagina an would not pass mustard here.
Well I was wrong.
You keep doing what you are doing. It aint easy. There is no quick fix. But I think it's pretty clear there is a boat on fire. Don't be a douche and run to it with a bucket of water and some nails.
You got this. Keep doing exactly what you are doing now (except for opening new threads in intro....just keep posting to your original). One day at a time it can be done.
Holler at any point when you need help/support. I guarantee there will be many a quitter there ready to help.
P.S. Mike B...does MikeA know you are here??
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bigbamadan I dont know who Mike A is.
Mike B
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Is this adding to the thread.. I was told to stop making new topics just ad to old posts! So let me know if this is right. This is not the easiest OS to figure out lads.. That may be part of the plan! Anyway Day 5!!! Holy Shit! B-I-T-C-H!! THis was my hardest day so far.. I fell like i've been in a boxing match with the Champ all damn day! At every turn.. BAM!! Been pretty much a constant strggle! At no time did the thought of caving enter my head. The thought of getting my ass here to post some bullshit did though! That and atomic bombs.. truthfully I really did not want to dip! It stopped working a long time ago! and it it will never work again.. thanks for the QUIT today boys... you gave it to me..
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I need some help today... I thought day 5 was bad! Day 8 was a nightmare! I guess I have been maybe sleeping 3 to 4 hours a night. it's pretty shitty sleep.. even with melatonin and some other sleep aids. Yesterday I had to spend quite a bit of time in my truck driving. I had about a 2 hour road trip, each way.. The entire fucking time I was fighting sleep! I was so sleepy.. I would yell and sing and roll the window down.. roll it up.. stick my head out the window.. the entire trip was a struggle to stay awake.. I knew that if only I had some dip... all this would go away.. well I did not cave! I get home last night.. my girlfriend came over she was suppose to be here at 7.. she was late of course and I let her fucking have it! (she is always late, last night just chapped my ass more than usual).. so we got into pretty much a knock down! This morning after about 3 or 4 hours of shitty sleep I am here.. thinking is it really worth it?? I am getting depressed.. I am very tired.. if i get to the point if I really think I am going to drink over this.. I will dip! If i drink all bets are off for me in life in general! I will be doing much more than dipping. Dip will be the least of my worries if I start drinking again after 9 years.. I need some real experience..strength.. hope today.. not this "be a man horse shit!" I am a fucking man.. I have manned up showed up and fought more days in my life than you can imagine..
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Thinking is your first problem. The more you think, the more you will be able to justify taking a dip....or a drink.
I'm sad...take a dip/drink
I'm happy ..take a dip/drink
I'm excited ..take a dip/drink
I'm tired ..take a dip/drink
Girlfriend is pissing me off ..take a dip/drink (what planet are you from ...every chick on this earth is always late. It's what they do) If you are into CW listen to Brad Paisley song Waitin on a Women. Nails it.
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Using any outside event to justify an action is horseshit.
Is it really worth it ? You tell me. Why did you quit in the first place ? What did you expect when you quit ...dancing around listening to harp music ? You thought after 9 days you would be quit for good without having to fight for it ?
Why doesn't everybody quit ? Because it is fucking hard. If it was easy, there wouldn't be the need for this site.....or nic patches, or hypnosis, acupuncture, self help tapes or whatever else the fuck people get scammed into buying because they can't quit on their own.
Do you think you are unique ? That nobody else on this site has gone through exactly what you are going through now ? How did they make it through ? They gritted their teeth and moved forward. They talked to someone on the site....they went for a run...they hit the heavy bag...they rubbed one out....whatever it takes.
I crave everyday and it pisses me off everyday. Rage all you like. Nothing wrong with that....but don't go looking for an excuse to cave.
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Gooch, no exuse is good enough to cave in to a craving. We all crave. We all suffer through the pain, short fuzes, sleeping disorder, etc. we just can't give in, NO SURRENDER!!! Own this freedom, it is yours don't let that nic bitch take it back from you.
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Thinking is your first problem. The more you think, the more you will be able to justify taking a dip....or a drink.
I'm sad...take a dip/drink
I'm happy ..take a dip/drink
I'm excited ..take a dip/drink
I'm tired ..take a dip/drink
Girlfriend is pissing me off ..take a dip/drink (what planet are you from ...every chick on this earth is always late. It's what they do) If you are into CW listen to Brad Paisley song Waitin on a Women. Nails it.
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Using any outside event to justify an action is horseshit.
Is it really worth it ? You tell me. Why did you quit in the first place ? What did you expect when you quit ...dancing around listening to harp music ? You thought after 9 days you would be quit for good without having to fight for it ?
Why doesn't everybody quit ? Because it is fucking hard. If it was easy, there wouldn't be the need for this site.....or nic patches, or hypnosis, acupuncture, self help tapes or whatever else the fuck people get scammed into buying because they can't quit on their own.
Do you think you are unique ? That nobody else on this site has gone through exactly what you are going through now ? How did they make it through ? They gritted their teeth and moved forward. They talked to someone on the site....they went for a run...they hit the heavy bag...they rubbed one out....whatever it takes.
I crave everyday and it pisses me off everyday. Rage all you like. Nothing wrong with that....but don't go looking for an excuse to cave.
I carumba10!
Nice response and post. I like it.
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Gooch - All I can tell you is that it sounds like you've got the hang of it!!! You're doing it right for sure, brother!!! Never go back...NEVER.
You're beating the Nic Bitch one day at a time...in fact, it sounds like you're beating all of your addictions one day at a time. You're a fucking heroic bad-ass quitter!!! I'm pumped about what you're doing.
There are no short-cuts. It doesn't matter who you are, where you're from, what you did before now. The only thing that matters is what you are right now...and you, my brother, are quit!!!
Everybody has to go through the shit you're dealing with right now to earn their freedom. Really take note of how much it sucks. Cherish the feeling of earning your freedom. I used to get in my truck and yell too. Every cuss word I could think of and a bunch of other shit that didn't come out right...you know, really garbled strange rage cussing.
As far as your GF goes...go easy on her. Addiction isn't her fault. So what if she is late? Unless you're a dog, you can't lick your own balls. So, you might want to be a little nicer because she can, right?
It will get better...I don't remember how long it took for "normal" sleep to return. I want to say that it was maybe a couple of months or so. Exercise and then a Tylenol PM sorta worked for me. And even then I still had terrible nights every once in a while.
STAY STRONG BROTHER!!! IT GETS BETTER!!!
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Gooch, take it out on your dummy if you can't bitch at us. I'd bet he will understand.
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Hey Gooch - Right there with u on Day 11 of no Dip 5 years not drinking....Misery loves company my man!! No dipping, no drinking...that's why my avatar says 'bitches' plural......Hang in there buddy, Day 11 sucks too!
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Gooch remember the misery you put yourself though when you started dipping and drinking. The dizziness, the throwing up. It seems to me quitting is not as bad as starting. I am at day 11, every time I have a crave (every 5 minutes) I remind myself how much effort I put in to starting this shit, and think if I only put half as much effort into quitting I will be successful. Lord I hope I am right. I don't want this shit anymore.
Mike B.
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I have no idea what to say to you Gooch. No magic words. But I do have suggestions and do have my support. If any of us could take the pain away we most likely would. The unfortunate truth is that this is part of recovery. The depression/rage/ all of what you are going through is pretty much normal. I had the same questions, went through the same thing.
One question is do you have a real live person you can talk to. We are fine but I found that the face to face is important. If you do not I suggest you go find a therapist. I have in the past and it does help.
Are you able to take some time off. When I first quit I did so on vacation, away from work and stress and life. This gave me the time I needed to put some things in place to help me. 7 days of no stress may make a world of difference.
If you do not exercise I strongly suggest you start. The sweat helps with the detox and stress. Also try massage/sauna/whirlpool. I especially found that the massage helped immensely.
Do you laugh alot. I found early on that laughing and humor helped. Right now I am fighting some depression which I believe is part of the recovery process and I am at day 94. I have been in a funk for 2 weeks. I am trying to get to my therapist to have a chat because it is not fair to my wife to have to deal with a grumpy asshole of a husband.
Other than that - make sure you have fake stuff or seeds or something handy. Drink h2o or diet soda or something non alcholoic and keep going
Remember the raider x mottos
This shit is easy but will be the hardest thing you ever do in your life
Life is hard, wear a helmut
And my own personnel meditation mantra
Post Roll
Quit today
Repeat tomorrow
peace out goocher
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You guys are awesome!!! I dont know how to hightlight the stuff you guys are saying.. put it in a box and respond! You are all my heros... to all get through this shit come out on the other side smiling and helping! Thanks a million! Gooch
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I think Olive Oil just split! (thats actually my GF Cheri).. I just call her Olive Oil... I dont really care.. She has been kinda a pain in my ass for the past several months.. I swear fellas this is what has happened here.. I have just been honest! Withdrawl made me honest Honest pissed her off! I was honestly tired of listening to her shit! this was before I stopped dipping! can you imagine how I've felt for the past 9 days! HOLY HELL! torture! I am actually relieved now and not nearly as stressed and definitely not thinking of dipping! Gooch
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Gooch it does not matter how beautiful a woman is, they will always be a pain in someones ass. (Im still not given up titties)
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Gooch it does not matter how beautiful a woman is, they will always be a pain in someones ass. (Im still not given up titties)
Dip sucks ass water.
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Hey brother I have found that just coming on KTC and reading shit or hitting up the chat room helps me. It only takes a few minutes for someone to say some crazy shit that makes me laugh. That and I spit seeds like a bird. The cravings are there and will be off and on, more at some times then others. Remember why you quit. The sleep situation is a bitch it takes a good bit of time to get back on track with that. Those three and four hour nights while waking up 50 times suck. But in the end when your sleep is back on track, the rage is in check, the shits return to normal, you look at the first month or so of your quit and youre still quit, its then brother you know you are a fucking machine and are capable of anything. Stay strong, stay quit.
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Hello Ladies! Day 11 was remarkable.. please do not tell me it will soon end! I will ride this pink cloud as long as it runs! I only had i real crave tonight.. when i was eating with Olive Oil.. (we made up! - i took her to get botox then out to eat so i am back in good graces).. Didnt really bug me at all today! no dip - no problem? FREEDOM! for today anyway.. now lets see if i can get a little sleep! Gooch
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I just posted this in Kjsylva82's "scared as hell" feed... I thought some of you other newbies would like to know what is waiting for you if you don't keep posting roll...
I've had 5 gum grafts (maybe more? I have honestly lost count).. they are painful as hell... they never put me to sleep when I get them.. they lay your ass back in a dentists chair under a bright ass light.. you have to keep your mouth wide open for an eternity.. after a while your jaws cramp so damn bad you have to take breaks.. they will give you a lot of numbing agent at first in the roof of your mouth and in your gums on both sides (inside outside of your gums) because the stitches go all the way through your gums.. the first few shots are really the only ones that actually hurt, because after that it is numb.. There are several bad parts of this procedure.. my least favorite is when they cut the hunk of skin out of the roof of your mouth.. they pretty much have you blind folded and your numb as hell.. still you can tell because the dr says "open wide".. the scalpel goes into the roof of your mouth and you immediately taste blood.. because it runs into the back of your throat.. (this is one good thing about being a dipper.. we have an auto shut off back there and we can block from swallowing!) after the dr. makes the first few slices there.. eventually they have to saw the hunk of skin off THIS IS THE PART I HATE.. your head moves with the sawing action! by this time they have already completely pulled scraped what is left of your gums in the bottom away from your teeth as to put the newly cut piece from the roof of your mouth.. this next part irks the shit out of me.. my dr always lays the hunk of skin from the roof of my mouth on my shoulder until she is ready to put it into place.. then.. finally when she is ready.. the hunk of meat from the roof of my mouth.. it is tightly packed between my old gum (whats left of it) my teeth.. then it is stitched into place.. with a rather large needle that goes all the way through your teeth and gums and back around to neatly sew the new hunk of gum into place.. the entire time this is happening the assistant is sucking blood from your mouth and throat with a large tube.. under the blindfold you can see massive amounts of blood going through the tube.. once were done.. a piece of plastic called a stint is placed in the roof of your mouth, to keep you from bleeding.. for the next week or so it is very soft food and eating on one side of your mouth.. very slowly and carefully not to rip anything away from the gum or hit the roof of your mouth.. you are incredibly swollen and sore for a few days..often during the 1st few nights you bleed from the roof of your mouth while sleeping and gag on bloodÂ… now just imagine being so addicted that within hours of leaving this surgeryÂ… you want to dip so badly that you put a dip into your top lip just to get your nic fix.. you have to do it just right.. any sucking action and you will unclot the roof of your mouth and bleed out like a stuck hog.. Never has a gum graft surgery ever stopped me from dipping.. only when I got tired of all the shit did I stop.. when I got tired of being a fucking slave and paying big money to be the slave. Today even though its only been 12 days.. I still want to dip a few times a day.. but you know what.. I donÂ’t have to! Gone are the days when I have a surgery and I cannot even make it through the rest of the day and I have to pack that shit into my top lip to get the fix.. tell me I am not an addict! I am totally an addict.. if you are here.. guess what?? You probably are too. Today I am so thankful.. I do not have to dip! The nic bitch has lost her fucking power today boys.. I respect the shit out of her because I know what she can do to me.. but today I say no thanks.. actually I say Fuck You and all the pain that comes with you.. I am free today! Thanks fellas! Gooch
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Thanks Mike. I'm going to use this idea when I teach descriptive writing to my 9th graders in the Fall - and hopefully stop at least one kid from taking that first dip. Powerful imagery.
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Damn. My gums were getting close to that point before I quit, but, I could have seen myself still dipping after surgery to get my fix in.
It's damn nice to not be a slave to that crap anymore isn't it?
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Mike I can totally relate. My first gum graft was about 25 yrs. ago. That chunk they cut out of the roof of your mouth has got to be the most painful at least it always was for me. The other shit that is so discusting about this fucked up addiction for me was still using even after the grafts failed and I started losing teeth. I've lost 6 and had one implant, the empty holes in my mouth remind me daily of what a lame ass addict I am.
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I never had a gum graft but I can relate to the fucked up shit we all did. I had all 4 of my wisdom teeth pulled. The upper holes are not stitched shut and are allowed to heal on their own. I woke up from the medication and the first thing I did was to pack one in, open holes in my mouth and all.
That one pales to the most vivid memory of my addiction. The one that still haunts me, and keeps me vigilant. My wife was diagnosed with breast cancer. Had to go through some very intense chemo. I remember sitting there holding her hand on the cancer ward, watching them pump chemo into her body, all the while my nicotine addicted ass had a dip in. 'bang head'
Remember all of the shit you USED to do, use the memories as tools to help you with what you are doing TODAY. You are quit!
STAY QUIT
Greg
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Hey ADMIN: I love Gooch, but how many times are we going to let him write an introduction? Take your fingers out of the collective rectum and SCHOOL this slippery son of a bitch!
Love,
Dean
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Hey ADMIN: I love Gooch, but how many times are we going to let him write an introduction? Take your fingers out of the collective rectum and SCHOOL this slippery son of a bitch!
Love,
Dean
Done,
Love you too sweetie!
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Hey ADMIN: I love Gooch, but how many times are we going to let him write an introduction? Take your fingers out of the collective rectum and SCHOOL this slippery son of a bitch!
Love,
Dean
Done,
Love you too sweetie!
Good to see you, old comrade!
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I had grafting done when I was about 20, back in the throes of dipping and smoking. It sucked. Looked HORRIFIC when the procedure was first done. I actually wondered if the doctor was a fake and just tore me up.
I, too, was awake for it. I love the pain.
That's a lie. I was awake, but I hate pain. Am a huge pussy.
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This whole disgusting gum graft thing really helped me stay quit yesterday. Thank you for making me want to puke.
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JJ.. I am glad it worked for you Pal.. I hope you never have to go through that!
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Damnit Boys.. ( 2 girls that I know of?)! man size craves todays! Holy Shat! Coffee is my dip replacement! I've used it a lot today... I have a special mix.. coffee..espresso..salt..hot pepper.. tabasco.. more salt.. gives you a lot of spit! even gives you heartburn sometimes like the real shit... Looks like I made it through another day... Craves could be that I got news today that one of my best childhood buddies was found dead today... 43 one year younger than me... It was me him and one other guy.. we all hung out since the 3rd grade.. all the way through high school..we hunted and fished all over KY yep we all 3 dipped like crazy... our other buddy stopped about 10 years ago.. me and this guy we struggled... we have not been as close in the past 10 or 15 years.. you know work and wives and shit.. but when we saw each other it was like we never missed a day.. appears to have been a heart attack.. Rest in Peace my old friend...
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Sorry to hear that gooch. Stay strong and stay quit!
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Hey ADMIN: I love Gooch, but how many times are we going to let him write an introduction? Take your fingers out of the collective rectum and SCHOOL this slippery son of a bitch!
Love,
Dean
I love Dean too.. But he really is a fucking coot!
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Hey ADMIN: I love Gooch, but how many times are we going to let him write an introduction? Take your fingers out of the collective rectum and SCHOOL this slippery son of a bitch!
Love,
Dean
I love Dean too.. But he really is a fucking coot!
Dean is actually a cunt.
But he is one of the finest quitters here who made an instant difference on my virgin quit 827 days ago. Thank you Dean!
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Craving like a son of a bitch yesterday and today! Back in the suck! It is honestly still amazing though... I want to dip but don't have to dip.. used to I had no choice! I was an active addict... today I have a choice.. post roll not dip.. It only sucks a few minutes a day... the rest is glorious! Get Gooched...
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Craving like a son of a bitch yesterday and today! Back in the suck! It is honestly still amazing though... I want to dip but don't have to dip.. used to I had no choice! I was an active addict... today I have a choice.. post roll not dip.. It only sucks a few minutes a day... the rest is glorious! Get Gooched...
Stay strong brother the nic bitch is a sneaky little whore who will try to fuck you when you least expect it..........
Keep on Keeping on brother!!!
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I gotta stay quit! I bought a new truck today on my $ savings! well used truck, new to me.. 2009 F-150 King Ranch Package! I always wanted one of these! Back to truck payments for a while.. I've had my old f150 paid for a bit.. w/ 250K miles on it! a lot of dip in the floor! Be cool to have a truck and never dip in it.. or spill spit in it.. or get in and not smell those nasty rotten-ass spit bottles and cans in the hot summer!
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I gotta stay quit! I bought a new truck today on my $ savings! well used truck, new to me.. 2009 F-150 King Ranch Package! I always wanted one of these! Back to truck payments for a while.. I've had my old f150 paid for a bit.. w/ 250K miles on it! a lot of dip in the floor! Be cool to have a truck and never dip in it.. or spill spit in it.. or get in and not smell those nasty rotten-ass spit bottles and cans in the hot summer!
Good for you Mike. Let's make sure we keep that new truck dip free....
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Day 22 this morning... Craving pretty good this morning?? O well.. can't expect to be an addict for nearly 30 years and be over it in 22 days.. I had a dip dream the other night too.. i dreamed I was dipping wasabi! I love sushi I swear I was dipping wasabi? felt like skoal.. but it was wasabi? strange huh?
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Day 22 this morning... Craving pretty good this morning?? O well.. can't expect to be an addict for nearly 30 years and be over it in 22 days.. I had a dip dream the other night too.. i dreamed I was dipping wasabi! I love sushi I swear I was dipping wasabi? felt like skoal.. but it was wasabi? strange huh?
That is weird Gooch....
Whatever it takes to fight off those cravings, anything but nicotine!
You CAN do this, hell you ARE doing it.
One day at a time!
Posting roll aand kicking ass!
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Day 22 this morning... Craving pretty good this morning?? O well.. can't expect to be an addict for nearly 30 years and be over it in 22 days.. I had a dip dream the other night too.. i dreamed I was dipping wasabi! I love sushi I swear I was dipping wasabi? felt like skoal.. but it was wasabi? strange huh?
That is weird Gooch....
Whatever it takes to fight off those cravings, anything but nicotine!
You CAN do this, hell you ARE doing it.
One day at a time!
Posting roll aand kicking ass!
Stuff anything in that hole. Anything but cancer candy.
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Day 22 this morning... Craving pretty good this morning?? O well.. can't expect to be an addict for nearly 30 years and be over it in 22 days.. I had a dip dream the other night too.. i dreamed I was dipping wasabi! I love sushi I swear I was dipping wasabi? felt like skoal.. but it was wasabi? strange huh?
That is weird Gooch....
Whatever it takes to fight off those cravings, anything but nicotine!
You CAN do this, hell you ARE doing it.
One day at a time!
Posting roll aand kicking ass!
Stuff anything in that hole. Anything but cancer candy.
Gooch just remember what those first few days were Lik. I thought we were going to lose you for a while
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Day 23.. not much better than day 22! WTF is goin on here pros? I am 3 weeks into the shit here.. I have dipped about a half lb of my coffee hot pepper mix today! peppermints gum... my jaws are cramping.. Hell yeah I quit with you ladies.. all fucking day and all fucking night! I QUIT LIKE FUCK!!!
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Day 23.. not much better than day 22! WTF is goin on here pros? I am 3 weeks into the shit here.. I have dipped about a half lb of my coffee hot pepper mix today! peppermints gum... my jaws are cramping.. Hell yeah I quit with you ladies.. all fucking day and all fucking night! I QUIT LIKE FUCK!!!
Just keep quitting like fuck Gooch!
There is a well documented funk in the 20's when your early quit adrenaline wears off and you start to wonder why you spend so much time interacting with a bunch on strangers on the internet. It happened to me and I'm sure it's happened to several others. But it's only a funk and it will pass. Keep truckin on brother, it will get better.
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Day 23.. not much better than day 22! WTF is goin on here pros? I am 3 weeks into the shit here.. I have dipped about a half lb of my coffee hot pepper mix today! peppermints gum... my jaws are cramping.. Hell yeah I quit with you ladies.. all fucking day and all fucking night! I QUIT LIKE FUCK!!!
Everyone is different gooch. You need to find your own happy place. Don't expect nirvana by a specific quit day. You will drive yourself crazy waiting for it.
Remember Bubba telling Forrest how many types of shrimp he could make ? Apply the Bubba voice telling you how many funks there are ....funk at 10 days, a late teens funk, a twenties funk, an early 40s funk, a 60's funk, an 85 funk, a HOF funk, a 120 day funk, a 180 day funk, a 220 day funk, a year funk etc etc etc
So in other words, basically everyday. With some days worse than others and some days better than others.
Hang in there gooch.
Edit: Read the latest HOF speech by FinnBarr . Everyone is different.
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Day 24... Free At Last! no craves today! Freedom is a very good thing! Thanks fellas! Gooch
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Day 24... Free At Last! no craves today! Freedom is a very good thing! Thanks fellas! Gooch
Don't let your guard down Gooch, that nic bitch is in the background like a tiger lurking and waiting to pounce on us during a weak moment! Each victorious day makes us stronger. The tiger will go for the weak prey. I'm building strong quit muscles with you so the evil nicotine tiger will move on. Your quit is an inspiration to all of us.
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Day 24... Free At Last! no craves today! Freedom is a very good thing! Thanks fellas! Gooch
Don't let your guard down Gooch, that nic bitch is in the background like a tiger lurking and waiting to pounce on us during a weak moment! Each victorious day makes us stronger. The tiger will go for the weak prey. I'm building strong quit muscles with you so the evil nicotine tiger will move on. Your quit is an inspiration to all of us.
I'm on day 178 and the last 2 weeks were the toughest of my quit. Came embarrassingly and scarily close to a cave a few times. Doing fine today but it was tough.
The point is, never let your guard down. This fight is never over. It does get easy though. Most of the time I never even thank about it, just recently did it get tough and it came out of nowhere.
Keep it up.
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Day 24... Free At Last! no craves today! Freedom is a very good thing! Thanks fellas! Gooch
Don't let your guard down Gooch, that nic bitch is in the background like a tiger lurking and waiting to pounce on us during a weak moment! Each victorious day makes us stronger. The tiger will go for the weak prey. I'm building strong quit muscles with you so the evil nicotine tiger will move on. Your quit is an inspiration to all of us.
I'm on day 178 and the last 2 weeks were the toughest of my quit. Came embarrassingly and scarily close to a cave a few times. Doing fine today but it was tough.
The point is, never let your guard down. This fight is never over. It does get easy though. Most of the time I never even thank about it, just recently did it get tough and it came out of nowhere.
Keep it up.
Remember day 1. Understand freedom. If you do that you will not fail.
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Thanks Guys! Guess we have to take the good with the bad.. when I am on a pink "no craving" cloud... I'm going to ride the pink completely out of that bitch! then spur a little harder for more pink!!! You know if I make it to July 17.. I will have 3,285 days of "quit".. with other shit.. Cocaine tequila, if i'm honest about it.. no reason to lie to you guys.. you all understand addiction! Truthfully that 1st entire year was pretty much a bitch! I keep that 1 year token with me at all times.. I never ever want to go through the "suck" of any drug withdrawl again.. I still have drunk dreams on occasion.. rarely do i have coke dreams..Here's some scary shit - tobacco was truly my gateway drug that led me into some very sordid dark and lonely places..I really do not know how old I was when I started chewing habitually.. young! I had my first chew around the age of 6.. By 12 i was huffing gas.. by 15 smoking weed.. by 16 drinking and smoking weed.. then on and on until i reached 35 years old doing an 8 ball of coke and at least a fifth a day always 1 or more cans of skoal or cope everyday and always! I have truly been given the grace to put my entire life back together.. the folks I meet on a daily basis they have no idea really do not need to have one just how much i have struggled with addiction.. addiction has truly been my one big (enormous) life issue.. tobacco started it... tobacco finished it... it took nearly 9 years after I laid down my last drink to string together more than a few days of quit concerning dip.. i tried and tried... time and again! It happened because of you guys and this site! I pray I get to keep it again tomorrow.. Believe me when I say it has been the hardest one to break! Thanks Fellas! Since 6/11/12 I quit with you guys!
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Thanks Guys! Guess we have to take the good with the bad.. when I am on a pink "no craving" cloud... I'm going to ride the pink completely out of that bitch! then spur a little harder for more pink!!! You know if I make it to July 17.. I will have 3,285 days of "quit".. with other shit.. Cocaine tequila, if i'm honest about it.. no reason to lie to you guys.. you all understand addiction! Truthfully that 1st entire year was pretty much a bitch! I keep that 1 year token with me at all times.. I never ever want to go through the "suck" of any drug withdrawl again.. I still have drunk dreams on occasion.. rarely do i have coke dreams..Here's some scary shit - tobacco was truly my gateway drug that led me into some very sordid dark and lonely places..I really do not know how old I was when I started chewing.. young! By 12 i was huffing gas.. by 15 smoking weed.. by 16 drinking and smoking weed.. then on and on until i reached 35 years old doing an 8 ball of coke and at least a fifth a day always 1 or more cans of skoal or cope everyday and always! I have truly been given the grace to put my entire life back together.. the folks I meet on a daily basis they have no idea really do not need to have one just how much i have struggled with addiction.. addiction has truly been my one big (enormous) life issue.. tobacco started it... tobacco finished it... it took nearly 9 years after I laid down my last drink to string together more than a few days of quit concerning dip.. i tried and tried... time and again! It happened because of you guys and this site! I pray I get to keep it again tomorrow.. Believe me when I say it has been the hardest one to break! Thanks Fellas! Since 6/11/12 I quit with you guys!
Hey Gooch - right there w you...about 5 years into my other 'quit'.....Addiction is a tough thing, cause if you got that personality type, like me, its one thing or another....I had 'paused' dipping early on into my not drinking, but too much shit to deal with so I continued (I know that is an excuse). And I would always use the tomorrow train of thought...% years later is tomorrow. Hopefully its not too late right?
I am glad to be quit w you.
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Thanks Guys! Guess we have to take the good with the bad.. when I am on a pink "no craving" cloud... I'm going to ride the pink completely out of that bitch! then spur a little harder for more pink!!! You know if I make it to July 17.. I will have 3,285 days of "quit".. with other shit.. Cocaine tequila, if i'm honest about it.. no reason to lie to you guys.. you all understand addiction! Truthfully that 1st entire year was pretty much a bitch! I keep that 1 year token with me at all times.. I never ever want to go through the "suck" of any drug withdrawl again.. I still have drunk dreams on occasion.. rarely do i have coke dreams..Here's some scary shit - tobacco was truly my gateway drug that led me into some very sordid dark and lonely places..I really do not know how old I was when I started chewing.. young! By 12 i was huffing gas.. by 15 smoking weed.. by 16 drinking and smoking weed.. then on and on until i reached 35 years old doing an 8 ball of coke and at least a fifth a day always 1 or more cans of skoal or cope everyday and always! I have truly been given the grace to put my entire life back together.. the folks I meet on a daily basis they have no idea really do not need to have one just how much i have struggled with addiction.. addiction has truly been my one big (enormous) life issue.. tobacco started it... tobacco finished it... it took nearly 9 years after I laid down my last drink to string together more than a few days of quit concerning dip.. i tried and tried... time and again! It happened because of you guys and this site! I pray I get to keep it again tomorrow.. Believe me when I say it has been the hardest one to break! Thanks Fellas! Since 6/11/12 I quit with you guys!
Hey Gooch - right there w you...about 5 years into my other 'quit'.....Addiction is a tough thing, cause if you got that personality type, like me, its one thing or another....I had 'paused' dipping early on into my not drinking, but too much shit to deal with so I continued (I know that is an excuse). And I would always use the tomorrow train of thought...% years later is tomorrow. Hopefully its not too late right?
I am glad to be quit w you.
Meant - 5 Years later is 'tomorrow'. How shitty is that....5 years, what a waste...
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Hey Nic Bitch.. you have no right to enter my day 25... What the hell are you doing knocking on my door. Get the fuck out of here! You are out of my body, that's for sure There is no longer room for you in my mind. I have filled your space with good wholesome positive healthy thoughts. You are no longer welcome here at all. You mean nothing to me. NOTHING!!! do you understand that! You show your stinking ugly face here again me and the boys are going to beat you the fuck down.. again! You lose.. I win.. Go away stay away! You've been Gooched!
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Hey Nic Bitch.. you have no right to enter my day 25... What the hell are you doing knocking on my door. Get the fuck out of here! You are out of my body, that's for sure There is no longer room for you in my mind. I have filled your space with good wholesome positive healthy thoughts. You are no longer welcome here at all. You mean nothing to me. NOTHING!!! do you understand that! You show our stinking ugly face here again me and the boys are going to beat you the fuck down.. again! You lose.. I win.. Go away stay away! You've been Gooched!
I'm with Gooch on that!
Each daily victory weakes tha bitch, I'm 96-0 and she is still trying but her voice is getting weaker! My resolve is stronger. I have finally proven that I have balls!
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Hey Nic Bitch.. you have no right to enter my day 25... What the hell are you doing knocking on my door. Get the fuck out of here! You are out of my body, that's for sure There is no longer room for you in my mind. I have filled your space with good wholesome positive healthy thoughts. You are no longer welcome here at all. You mean nothing to me. NOTHING!!! do you understand that! You show our stinking ugly face here again me and the boys are going to beat you the fuck down.. again! You lose.. I win.. Go away stay away! You've been Gooched!
I'm with Gooch on that!
Each daily victory weakes tha bitch, I'm 96-0 and she is still trying but her voice is getting weaker! My resolve is stronger. I have finally proven that I have balls!
That post was one of the best ...I am drawing a line in the sand and not giving into the nic-bitch posts I have seen!!!
Nice work gooch keep the energy and intensity which will continue to build resolve determination!
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Hey Nic Bitch.. you have no right to enter my day 25... What the hell are you doing knocking on my door. Get the fuck out of here! You are out of my body, that's for sure There is no longer room for you in my mind. I have filled your space with good wholesome positive healthy thoughts. You are no longer welcome here at all. You mean nothing to me. NOTHING!!! do you understand that! You show our stinking ugly face here again me and the boys are going to beat you the fuck down.. again! You lose.. I win.. Go away stay away! You've been Gooched!
I'm with Gooch on that!
Each daily victory weakes tha bitch, I'm 96-0 and she is still trying but her voice is getting weaker! My resolve is stronger. I have finally proven that I have balls!
That post was one of the best ...I am drawing a line in the sand and not giving into the nic-bitch posts I have seen!!!
Nice work gooch keep the energy and intensity which will continue to build resolve determination!
I spot a door closing. :)
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Hey Nic Bitch.. you have no right to enter my day 25... What the hell are you doing knocking on my door. Get the fuck out of here! You are out of my body, that's for sure There is no longer room for you in my mind. I have filled your space with good wholesome positive healthy thoughts. You are no longer welcome here at all. You mean nothing to me. NOTHING!!! do you understand that! You show our stinking ugly face here again me and the boys are going to beat you the fuck down.. again! You lose.. I win.. Go away stay away! You've been Gooched!
I'm with Gooch on that!
Each daily victory weakes tha bitch, I'm 96-0 and she is still trying but her voice is getting weaker! My resolve is stronger. I have finally proven that I have balls!
That post was one of the best ...I am drawing a line in the sand and not giving into the nic-bitch posts I have seen!!!
Nice work gooch keep the energy and intensity which will continue to build resolve determination!
I spot a door closing. :)
Looks like that door comes with a secure lock as well!!!!
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I had the weirdest damn dream last night.. I was in a big ass field.. There was a river in the middle of the field.. there was about 5 or 6 guys on my side of the river.. (I think it may have been Diesel..Tinman..WT.. don't know who else.. we were all camo"ed completely out head to toe.. masks and all.. on the other side of the river there was Viet Cong.. and they were every where.. no bullets flying yet.. Next thing I know were all in a house with Charlie Sheen! For real Charlie Sheen! He was talking to us and we were all just kind of having fun getting ready to go fight! No big deal.. kinda like we were getting ready for some game or something.. then next thing I know I am standing alone with an Uzi at the end of his driveway by a garage and some chick comes jogging around the corner.. she stops for a second sees me and is paralyzed by fear.. she passes out and falls to the ground.. I bend over get her by the arm to help her up and say "Maam you might want to go in the house, it's getting ready to get nasty out here".. (here's the truth I honestly wanting a nipple shot that's why I bent over to help her! - didn't get one).. then next thing I know, me and one other camo'ed out dude was walking down a gravel road checking our guns gettin ready to fully engage the enemy.. don't know who it was because we were werein camo masks? we were def together we weren't scared, not even a little.. we were on a mission..only one goal in mind! just very matter of fact and certain.. 100% confident we were about to kick some ass! OK.. any of you dream readers out there.. what does it all mean? I just took we we are gonna beat this addiction.. we just have to fight it! just fight it with confidence?? cya ladies.. Gooch
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I had the weirdest damn dream last night.. I was in a big ass field.. There was a river in the middle of the field.. there was about 5 or 6 guys on my side of the river.. (I think it may have been Diesel..Tinman..WT.. don't know who else.. we were all camo"ed completely out head to toe.. masks and all.. on the other side of the river there was Viet Cong.. and they were every where.. no bullets flying yet.. Next thing I know were all in a house with Charlie Sheen! For real Charlie Sheen! He was talking to us and we were all just kind of having fun getting ready to go fight! No big deal.. kinda like we were getting ready for some game or something.. then next thing I know I am standing alone with an Uzi at the end of his driveway by a garage and some chick comes jogging around the corner.. she stops for a second sees me and is paralyzed by fear.. she passes out and falls to the ground.. I bend over get her by the arm to help her up and say "Maam you might want to go in the house, it's getting ready to get nasty out here".. (here's the truth I honestly wanting a nipple shot t
hat's why I bent over to help her! - didn't get one).. then next thing I know, me and one other camo'ed out dude was walking down a gravel road checking our guns gettin ready to fully engage the enemy.. don't know who it was because we were werein camo masks? we were def together we weren't scared, not even a little.. we were on a mission..only one goal in mind! just very matter of fact and certain.. 100% confident we were about to kick some ass! OK.. any of you dream readers out there.. what does it all mean? I just took we we are gonna beat this addiction.. we just have to fight it! just fight it with confidence?? cya ladies.. Gooch
Gooch? You keep a psychiatrist on retainer? If not give me a call I'll give you mine's number
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Today I am 28 days.. If i picked up today I would be so damn miserable that I caved.. and truthfully after almost a month.. the dip would taste like shit and I'd have to make myself do it! I could do that though! I've done it before. But today I really want to be free more than I want to be a slave.. I can think of 3 times I've had this long.. once was about 17 years ago - i actually had 3 months.. - caved because I drank beer! 2nd was about 7 years ago.. had a month - caved over a stressful situation concerning an auction! 3rd was in April of this year.. Had 10 days.. caved over an auction.. Actually all those are nothing but pussy excuses! You know why i really caved??? because I was not committed! Today I am committed! For Today! Gooch
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Today I am 28 days.. If i picked up today I would be so damn miserable that I caved.. and truthfully after almost a month.. the dip would taste like shit and I'd have to make myself do it! I could do that though! I've done it before. But today I really want to be free more than I want to be a slave.. I can think of 3 times I've had this long.. once was about 17 years ago - i actually had 3 months.. - caved because I drank beer! 2nd was about 7 years ago.. had a month - caved over a stressful situation concerning an auction! 3rd was in April of this year.. Had 10 days.. caved over an auction.. Actually all those are nothing but pussy excuses! You know why i really caved??? because I was not committed! Today I am committed! For Today! Gooch
Gooch,
I'm a big fan of your posts and feel the same you do right now - I've made it to day 24 a few times before but ended up caving each time. What is different for me this time is that I don't have the desire to chew - a buddy of mine cracked open a fresh can of copenhagen yesterday and the smell made me gag. In the past, I would have been fighting the urge to bum a chew and known in the back of my mind that it was only a matter of time before I caved. It was a question of when rather than if . . .
I am going to stay committed and stay quit with you!
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Today I am 28 days.. If i picked up today I would be so damn miserable that I caved.. and truthfully after almost a month.. the dip would taste like shit and I'd have to make myself do it! I could do that though! I've done it before. But today I really want to be free more than I want to be a slave.. I can think of 3 times I've had this long.. once was about 17 years ago - i actually had 3 months.. - caved because I drank beer! 2nd was about 7 years ago.. had a month - caved over a stressful situation concerning an auction! 3rd was in April of this year.. Had 10 days.. caved over an auction.. Actually all those are nothing but pussy excuses! You know why i really caved??? because I was not committed! Today I am committed! For Today! Gooch
Gooch,
I'm a big fan of your posts and feel the same you do right now - I've made it to day 24 a few times before but ended up caving each time. What is different for me this time is that I don't have the desire to chew - a buddy of mine cracked open a fresh can of copenhagen yesterday and the smell made me gag. In the past, I would have been fighting the urge to bum a chew and known in the back of my mind that it was only a matter of time before I caved. It was a question of when rather than if . . .
I am going to stay committed and stay quit with you!
4 weeks of freedom. You are the man. Great job. :) I love you attitude. One of a badass quitter.
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Day 30 today fellas.. I feel good. Not particularly elated but good. Me the lil lady fighting again last night.. i really don't know if it is still nic-rage (it's been 30 days!) or if I am just tired of putting up wit her spoiled little ass.. We are suppose to be leaving for the Smokey Mountains this morning until Sun.. If we go I will do my best to still post.. I don't know what time it will be.. I am an early riser no matter where I am or what I am doing.. The cabin we are in? If i have internet access remains to be seen? If I have a phone sig - remains to be seen? I have never posted with my phone before.. So to all my Sept Bros... I will post just don't know what time it will be.. Gooch
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Day 30 today fellas.. I feel good. Not particularly elated but good. Me the lil lady fighting again last night.. i really don't know if it is still nic-rage (it's been 30 days!) or if I am just tired of putting up wit her spoiled little ass.. We are suppose to be leaving for the Smokey Mountains this morning until Sun.. If we go I will do my best to still post.. I don't know what time it will be.. I am an early riser no matter where I am or what I am doing.. The cabin we are in? If i have internet access remains to be seen? If I have a phone sig - remains to be seen? I have never posted with my phone before.. So to all my Sept Bros... I will post just don't know what time it will be.. Gooch
Gooch: You do NOT miss roll call pre-HOF. No excuse. None zero zilch nada. No internet and no cell signal are laughable. Guys have been holed up in Iraq and Afghanistan and posted roll. Get to a pay phone. Get SOMEWHERE. Just call a brother, tell him you're quit for the day, and he'll post roll for you.
As for your woman's spoiled little ass? I'll tap it. (And share my wife's with you, of course.)
Unless you miss roll. Then you're dead to me.
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Thanks Dean the cunt! came off the mountain to post roll.. I'd be happy for a trade off!!! Happy Fucking Trails! Gooch-Out
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Thanks Dean the cunt! came off the mountain to post roll.. I'd be happy for a trade off!!! Happy Fucking Trails! Gooch-Out
You can text from the Smokey mountains I went there last year for vacation!
Text me if you cannot get internet service brother, have a great time!
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Thanks Grizzly.. I haven't seen a griz but I did see 2 black bears walking my dog yesterday. I don't know wo shit 1st.. Me or him..
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Hey fellas.. I'm back from vacation in the Smokeys.. It was rather eventful - of course me the lil-lady got into on the last day and we left early! I am going to stop bitching about that and about her.. from now on I want to talk about good things! Quit Things! When I think about her - i don't think about quit - I think about shit! Soooo.. I want to think about quit.. You guys have truly helped me to re-define quit... and it only applies here.. quit means - never give up.. never say die.. quit means I will do this no matter what the difficulty or what I am going through.. I AM QUIT!!!! Thanks Boys..
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Thanks Grizzly.. I haven't seen a griz but I did see 2 black bears walking my dog yesterday. I don't know wo shit 1st.. Me or him..
The place we stayed at last year had some black bears living right behind our cabins and I will have to say it was one of my favorite vacations!
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Hey Guys.. I just posted this in Rubicons feed.. Whoa!!! it took me back.. way back..
I remember as a kid seeing my dad spit out the window while he was driving and yes I though it was the coolest.. I don't know how long it was after that.. but we were at Walmart (I think) when Walmart was still kinda small..36 years ago.. we were Christmas shopping.. I asked Dad if I could get some tobacco.. Chewing Tobacco - Work Horse.. He looked at Mom she looked at Him and he said sure.. And as he told me 100s of times before his death in 2008.. "I thought it would make you sick and that would be the end of that".. well it did make me sick.. I remember the 1st time I tried to chew it.. I went out in the yard and took one leaf.. As a 6 year old boy it was very strong.. My young body tried to reject the fact that I was now putting poison into my body and it shuttered and shook to try to stop it! I spit it out.. BUT - I kept on trying time and again.. I got sick time after time, sometimes throwing up.. but more than anything I wanted to be like my dad and be able to chew and spit out of a window.. That"s what I thought it took to make him proud of me.. Well finally I could do it.. Chew and spit! Then finally I was chewing in front of my other cousins who couldn't.. me playing the big shot.. then in front of my kids at school.. then i started dipping.. then years later I couldn't quit! I was an addict.. I think you know the rest of the story... Join us in a fight to save your life and maybe the life of your child as well.. He will do what his Daddy does..
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Hey Guys.. I just posted this in Rubicons feed.. Whoa!!! it took me back.. way back..
I remember as a kid seeing my dad spit out the window while he was driving and yes I though it was the coolest.. I don't know how long it was after that.. but we were at Walmart (I think) when Walmart was still kinda small..36 years ago.. we were Christmas shopping.. I asked Dad if I could get some tobacco.. Chewing Tobacco - Work Horse.. He looked at Mom she looked at Him and he said sure.. And as he told me 100s of times before his death in 2008.. "I thought it would make you sick and that would be the end of that".. well it did make me sick.. I remember the 1st time I tried to chew it.. I went out in the yard and took one leaf.. As a 6 year old boy it was very strong.. My young body tried to reject the fact that I was now putting poison into my body and it shuttered and shook to try to stop it! I spit it out.. BUT - I kept on trying time and again.. I got sick time after time, sometimes throwing up.. but more than anything I wanted to be like my dad and be able to chew and spit out of a window.. That"s what I thought it took to make him proud of me.. Well finally I could do it.. Chew and spit! Then finally I was chewing in front of my other cousins who couldn't.. me playing the big shot.. then in front of my kids at school.. then i started dipping.. then years later I couldn't quit! I was an addict.. I think you know the rest of the story... Join us in a fight to save your life and maybe the life of your child as well.. He will do what his Daddy does..
Unfortunately it is the truth and I have 2 boys that seem to think they need to have something in thier lip to play baseball or shoot their bows or much of anything, now things are getting better but they saw it for sooo long it will be rewiring them as well as myself!
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OK Ladies.. today I am pumping gas.. look up on the top of the pump and I am eye to eye with a can of grizzly! I have done pretty good at avoiding stores and going inside by paying at the pump.. no avoiding this.. it's right there.. so what do I do.. Do I shit or go blind.. I do neither.. for about a half a sec I freaked then I was like "oh well" there's a grizzly can up there! Now mind you today has been "a good" day.. barley a single crave.. tomorrow I am doing a class for the first time.. In addition to being an auctioneer I also do CE classes and sales seminars, so to speak.. this is a huge trigger for me.. always at the end of these days.. 6 hours in front of a crowd of people giving them all the Gooch I can muster.. I am always exhausted at day's end and as soon as I hit the truck.. CRAM!! a super fatty! not tomorrow! The one thing I am looking the most forward to tomorrow is not wanting a dip so bad that I give early breaks so I can sneak one in! And when I couldn't spit.. I would intentionally eat a dip... sometimes I'd do that and have terrible hiccups! The people get all of me tomorrow!! No withdrawls to interrupt my flow.. Nic Bitch You've been Gooched Again! Thanks fellas.. all because of you!!!
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OK Ladies.. today I am pumping gas.. look up on the top of the pump and I am eye to eye with a can of grizzly! I have done pretty good at avoiding stores and going inside by paying at the pump.. no avoiding this.. it's right there.. so what do I do.. Do I shit or go blind.. I do neither.. for about a half a sec I freaked then I was like "oh well" there's a grizzly can up there! Now mind you today has been "a good" day.. barley a single crave.. tomorrow I am doing a class for the first time.. In addition to being an auctioneer I also do CE classes and sales seminars, so to speak.. this is a huge trigger for me.. always at the end of these days.. 6 hours in front of a crowd of people giving them all the Gooch I can muster.. I am always exhausted at day's end and as soon as I hit the truck.. CRAM!! a super fatty! not tomorrow! The one thing I am looking the most forward to tomorrow is not wanting a dip so bad that I give early breaks so I can sneak one in! And when I couldn't spit.. I would intentionally eat a dip... sometimes I'd do that and have terrible hiccups! The people get all of me tomorrow!! No withdrawls to interrupt my flow.. Nic Bitch You've been Gooched Again! Thanks fellas.. all because of you!!!
Memories of swallowing that shit knowing I would be without for awhile. What addicted assholes! And the damn hiccups! Haha no more love to be there to hear you.
I would of pissed in the can on the pump!
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OK Ladies.. today I am pumping gas.. look up on the top of the pump and I am eye to eye with a can of grizzly! I have done pretty good at avoiding stores and going inside by paying at the pump.. no avoiding this.. it's right there.. so what do I do.. Do I shit or go blind.. I do neither.. for about a half a sec I freaked then I was like "oh well" there's a grizzly can up there! Now mind you today has been "a good" day.. barley a single crave.. tomorrow I am doing a class for the first time.. In addition to being an auctioneer I also do CE classes and sales seminars, so to speak.. this is a huge trigger for me.. always at the end of these days.. 6 hours in front of a crowd of people giving them all the Gooch I can muster.. I am always exhausted at day's end and as soon as I hit the truck.. CRAM!! a super fatty! not tomorrow! The one thing I am looking the most forward to tomorrow is not wanting a dip so bad that I give early breaks so I can sneak one in! And when I couldn't spit.. I would intentionally eat a dip... sometimes I'd do that and have terrible hiccups! The people get all of me tomorrow!! No withdrawls to interrupt my flow.. Nic Bitch You've been Gooched Again! Thanks fellas.. all because of you!!!
Memories of swallowing that shit knowing I would be without for awhile. What addicted assholes! And the damn hiccups! Haha no more love to be there to hear you.
I would of pissed in the can on the pump!
Give em hell tomorrow Gooch-Keeps extra bags of seeds in your truck for the after party!!!!
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OK Ladies.. today I am pumping gas.. look up on the top of the pump and I am eye to eye with a can of grizzly! I have done pretty good at avoiding stores and going inside by paying at the pump.. no avoiding this.. it's right there.. so what do I do.. Do I shit or go blind.. I do neither.. for about a half a sec I freaked then I was like "oh well" there's a grizzly can up there! Now mind you today has been "a good" day.. barley a single crave.. tomorrow I am doing a class for the first time.. In addition to being an auctioneer I also do CE classes and sales seminars, so to speak.. this is a huge trigger for me.. always at the end of these days.. 6 hours in front of a crowd of people giving them all the Gooch I can muster.. I am always exhausted at day's end and as soon as I hit the truck.. CRAM!! a super fatty! not tomorrow! The one thing I am looking the most forward to tomorrow is not wanting a dip so bad that I give early breaks so I can sneak one in! And when I couldn't spit.. I would intentionally eat a dip... sometimes I'd do that and have terrible hiccups! The people get all of me tomorrow!! No withdrawls to interrupt my flow.. Nic Bitch You've been Gooched Again! Thanks fellas.. all because of you!!!
Memories of swallowing that shit knowing I would be without for awhile. What addicted assholes! And the damn hiccups! Haha no more love to be there to hear you.
I would of pissed in the can on the pump!
WT.. That was hilarious! I swear I laughed out loud!!! Thx man
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OK Ladies.. today I am pumping gas.. look up on the top of the pump and I am eye to eye with a can of grizzly! I have done pretty good at avoiding stores and going inside by paying at the pump.. no avoiding this.. it's right there.. so what do I do.. Do I shit or go blind.. I do neither.. for about a half a sec I freaked then I was like "oh well" there's a grizzly can up there! Now mind you today has been "a good" day.. barley a single crave.. tomorrow I am doing a class for the first time.. In addition to being an auctioneer I also do CE classes and sales seminars, so to speak.. this is a huge trigger for me.. always at the end of these days.. 6 hours in front of a crowd of people giving them all the Gooch I can muster.. I am always exhausted at day's end and as soon as I hit the truck.. CRAM!! a super fatty! not tomorrow! The one thing I am looking the most forward to tomorrow is not wanting a dip so bad that I give early breaks so I can sneak one in! And when I couldn't spit.. I would intentionally eat a dip... sometimes I'd do that and have terrible hiccups! The people get all of me tomorrow!! No withdrawls to interrupt my flow..  Nic Bitch You've been Gooched Again! Thanks fellas.. all because of you!!!
Memories of swallowing that shit knowing I would be without for awhile. What addicted assholes! And the damn hiccups! Haha no more love to be there to hear you.
I would of pissed in the can on the pump!
Give em hell tomorrow Gooch-Keeps extra bags of seeds in your truck for the after party!!!!
Great advice tinman.. I think I'm gonna have to switch from hard candy to something else for sure? Had my annual ( anal) physical last week.. My glucose was just under diabetic!!! Had to be all the candy I been eating for the past month.. Maybe 20 or more cinnamon disks a day... Ain't that some shit.. I quit dipping and get diabetes! That's crazy... I can however quit cinnamon much easier than I did dip I have found.. I had two today and did not withdrawal at all or act like an asshole!!
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Day 41.. What! For real day 41! Sometimes it flies sometimes it drags.. Going through a crave seems like an eternity.. Heading to a ventriloquists convention today! A lot of weirdos and one hot chick last year.. Mrs Ohio is a ventriloquist! Mrs Ky was actually my 2nd wife no kidding.. My experience with beauty queens.. The sash means "another dollar please"...
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Day 41.. What! For real day 41! Sometimes it flies sometimes it drags.. Going through a crave seems like an eternity.. Heading to a ventriloquists convention today! A lot of weirdos and one hot chick last year.. Mrs Ohio is a ventriloquist! Mrs Ky was actually my 2nd wife no kidding.. My experience with beauty queens.. The sash means "another dollar please"...
41 days!!!! You seriously opened a can of quit on little Nicky.
WTG!!
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Holy Shit Quitters... Today has been a f-ing shit storm! I have craved absolutely all damn day.. WTF? Don't know if it centered around Scrockett and the posts there this morning or what? Don't have a clue. but I do know that the mental process was taking me dangerously close to a dip today. A few times I was ready to throw up my arms and concede "it ain't worth it". I was actually tatsing it. Gum grafts/cancer/tooth loss - fuck it all.. At least I can have some relief. Well I didn't pick up, truthfullyy I'm not overly glad I didn't. In a weird place.. Being a quitter is fun sometimes.. Not so much today/tonight. Gooch
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Holy Shit Quitters... Today has been a f-ing shit storm! I have craved absolutely all damn day.. WTF? Don't know if it centered around Scrockett and the posts there this morning or what? Don't have a clue. but I do know that the mental process was taking me dangerously close to a dip today. A few times I was ready to throw up my arms and concede "it ain't worth it". I was actually tatsing it. Gum grafts/cancer/tooth loss - fuck it all.. At least I can have some relief. Well I didn't pick up, truthfullyy I'm not overly glad I didn't. In a weird place.. Being a quitter is fun sometimes.. Not so much today/tonight. Gooch
You and me bothe brother. Hope this "It gets easier" shit is true. My shits tired of going through the wringer. Why doesnt some smart scientist SOB invent some anti crave gum or candy? Son bitch would be a gazillionaire!!!! Hang tough!!!!
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Holy Shit Quitters... Today has been a f-ing shit storm! I have craved absolutely all damn day.. WTF? Don't know if it centered around Scrockett and the posts there this morning or what? Don't have a clue. but I do know that the mental process was taking me dangerously close to a dip today. A few times I was ready to throw up my arms and concede "it ain't worth it". I was actually tatsing it. Gum grafts/cancer/tooth loss - fuck it all.. At least I can have some relief. Well I didn't pick up, truthfullyy I'm not overly glad I didn't. In a weird place.. Being a quitter is fun sometimes.. Not so much today/tonight. Gooch
You and me bothe brother. Hope this "It gets easier" shit is true. My shits tired of going through the wringer. Why doesnt some smart scientist SOB invent some anti crave gum or candy? Son bitch would be a gazillionaire!!!! Hang tough!!!!
It gets better.
You would not believe me if I told you how much better it gets.
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Holy Shit Quitters... Today has been a f-ing shit storm!  I have craved absolutely all damn day.. WTF? Don't know if it centered around Scrockett and the posts there this morning or what? Don't have a clue. but I do know that the mental process was taking me dangerously close to a dip today. A few times I was ready to throw up my arms and concede "it ain't worth it". I was actually tatsing it. Gum grafts/cancer/tooth loss - fuck it all.. At least I can have some relief. Well I didn't pick up, truthfullyy I'm not overly glad I didn't. In a weird place.. Being a quitter is fun sometimes.. Not so much today/tonight. Gooch
You and me bothe brother. Hope this "It gets easier" shit is true. My shits tired of going through the wringer. Why doesnt some smart scientist SOB invent some anti crave gum or candy? Son bitch would be a gazillionaire!!!! Hang tough!!!!
It gets better.
You would not believe me if I told you how much better it gets.
Gooch,
Been there and probably will be ther again. This is a series of phases. Stay the course. If you have a bad day, and survive it...the great day is coming!!!
It just happens. I guess it is the buzz of success! I live for that buzz. It kicks the shit out of tobacco humping every time.
It gets better but winning is contagious. You are undefeated bro. Isn't that bonerific!!!
You are catching the wave of enjoying your quit. Live and love your victories...they are epic!!!
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Thanks for everything all y'all! (y'all is a word in ky).. Last 5 days have been the hardest of my quit! Had to be God and you guys getting me through because I simply do not have the power not to dip.. I am truly powerless when it comes to dip.. I am an addict.. Completely totally an addict.. I swear this morning I was really thinking about a cave before I posted.. I knew once I posted a cave was out until midnight.. And seriously I told myself this morning.. If I still want to dip as badly at midnight as I do ths morning it's on!! So I posted and went though my day.. Most of the day I have focused on the many benefits of being tobacco free.. (I have dipped a shitload of my new famous getgooched homemade dip)..
My Benefits Today!
1). Sleep.. I am getting sleep for the 1st time in many years.. This has really been one that has kept me going...
2). I can have a real conversation with someone without thinking about "damn I wished they'd hurry.. I really need a dip!
3). Sometimes I have a HUGE sense of accomplishment (this is my crown jewel of the year)
4). I really get to keep my teeth... My real teeth too
5). Money I actually am saving he money I'd spend on it
Who else has some?
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Thanks for everything all y'all! (y'all is a word in ky).. Last 5 days have been the hardest of my quit! Had to be God and you guys getting me through because I simply do not have the power not to dip.. I am truly powerless when it comes to dip.. I am an addict.. Completely totally an addict.. I swear this morning I was really thinking about a cave before I posted.. I knew once I posted a cave was out until midnight.. And seriously I told myself this morning.. If I still want to dip as badly at midnight as I do ths morning it's on!! So I posted and went though my day.. Most of the day I have focused on the many benefits of being tobacco free.. (I have dipped a shitload of my new famous getgooched homemade dip)..
My Benefits Today!
1). Sleep.. I am getting sleep for the 1st time in many years.. This has really been one that has kept me going...
2). I can have a real conversation with someone without thinking about "damn I wished they'd hurry.. I really need a dip!
3). Sometimes I have a HUGE sense of accomplishment (this is my crown jewel of the year)
4). I really get to keep my teeth... My real teeth too
5). Money I actually am saving he money I'd spend on it
Who else has some?
How about trying to kiss your wife/girlfriend (whatever) and they don't look at you like you are an idiot because you have grains in your teeth and your breath smells like cat shit.
Or your kids don't find spit bottles laying around house and think they are tea??
Don't have to hide it at work, especially if you work in office environment???
Just a few..
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Thanks for everything all y'all! (y'all is a word in ky).. Last 5 days have been the hardest of my quit! Had to be God and you guys getting me through because I simply do not have the power not to dip.. I am truly powerless when it comes to dip.. I am an addict.. Completely totally an addict.. I swear this morning I was really thinking about a cave before I posted.. I knew once I posted a cave was out until midnight.. And seriously I told myself this morning.. If I still want to dip as badly at midnight as I do ths morning it's on!! So I posted and went though my day.. Most of the day I have focused on the many benefits of being tobacco free.. (I have dipped a shitload of my new famous getgooched homemade dip)..
My Benefits Today!
1). Sleep.. I am getting sleep for the 1st time in many years.. This has really been one that has kept me going...
2). I can have a real conversation with someone without thinking about "damn I wished they'd hurry.. I really need a dip!
3). Sometimes I have a HUGE sense of accomplishment (this is my crown jewel of the year)
4). I really get to keep my teeth... My real teeth too
5). Money I actually am saving he money I'd spend on it
Who else has some?
How about trying to kiss your wife/girlfriend (whatever) and they don't look at you like you are an idiot because you have grains in your teeth and your breath smells like cat shit.
Or your kids don't find spit bottles laying around house and think they are tea??
Don't have to hide it at work, especially if you work in office environment???
Just a few..
It does get easier
Quit today. Let tomorrow take care of itself
I quit with you
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Thanks for everything all y'all! (y'all is a word in ky).. Last 5 days have been the hardest of my quit! Had to be God and you guys getting me through because I simply do not have the power not to dip.. I am truly powerless when it comes to dip.. I am an addict.. Completely totally an addict.. I swear this morning I was really thinking about a cave before I posted.. I knew once I posted a cave was out until midnight.. And seriously I told myself this morning.. If I still want to dip as badly at midnight as I do ths morning it's on!! So I posted and went though my day.. Most of the day I have focused on the many benefits of being tobacco free.. (I have dipped a shitload of my new famous getgooched homemade dip)..
My Benefits Today!
1).  Sleep.. I am getting sleep for the 1st time in many years.. This has really been one that has kept me going...
2).  I can have a real conversation with someone without thinking about "damn I wished they'd hurry.. I really need a dip!
3). Sometimes I have a HUGE sense of accomplishment (this is my crown jewel of the year)
4). I really get to keep my teeth... My real teeth too
5).  Money I actually am saving he money I'd spend on it
Who else has some?
How about trying to kiss your wife/girlfriend (whatever) and they don't look at you like you are an idiot because you have grains in your teeth and your breath smells like cat shit.
Or your kids don't find spit bottles laying around house and think they are tea??
Don't have to hide it at work, especially if you work in office environment???
Just a few..
The energy I have now, it's awesome! I'm always going, not feeling that sluggish or tired all the time like I did when I dipped.
Also, not dipping at work, when I talk to customers, not having to rush it or worry about where to spit.
Feeling like if I can accomplish this, I can accomplish anything...like a boss
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Thanks for everything all y'all! (y'all is a word in ky).. Last 5 days have been the hardest of my quit! Had to be God and you guys getting me through because I simply do not have the power not to dip.. I am truly powerless when it comes to dip.. I am an addict.. Completely totally an addict.. I swear this morning I was really thinking about a cave before I posted.. I knew once I posted a cave was out until midnight.. And seriously I told myself this morning.. If I still want to dip as badly at midnight as I do ths morning it's on!! So I posted and went though my day.. Most of the day I have focused on the many benefits of being tobacco free.. (I have dipped a shitload of my new famous getgooched homemade dip)..
My Benefits Today!
1).  Sleep.. I am getting sleep for the 1st time in many years.. This has really been one that has kept me going...
2).  I can have a real conversation with someone without thinking about "damn I wished they'd hurry.. I really need a dip!
3). Sometimes I have a HUGE sense of accomplishment (this is my crown jewel of the year)
4). I really get to keep my teeth... My real teeth too
5).  Money I actually am saving he money I'd spend on it
Who else has some?
How about trying to kiss your wife/girlfriend (whatever) and they don't look at you like you are an idiot because you have grains in your teeth and your breath smells like cat shit.
Or your kids don't find spit bottles laying around house and think they are tea??
Don't have to hide it at work, especially if you work in office environment???
Just a few..
The energy I have now, it's awesome! I'm always going, not feeling that sluggish or tired all the time like I did when I dipped.
Also, not dipping at work, when I talk to customers, not having to rush it or worry about where to spit.
Feeling like if I can accomplish this, I can accomplish anything...like a boss
How about being FREE! I've always been a slave to that can, life revolved around it!
Feeling like a real man with real balls!
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Hey Gooch --- some great stuff on your intro thread....You're doing great and guess what - you DO have the power brother. You've proven it. God and your co-quitters have helped, but YOU have done it. Every day you post roll and every day you honor it. You are a hell of a quitter. Don't discount that and don't downplay it. You have taken control of something that had been controlling you. No one did it for you - you did it!! You are a bad mfer of quit!!!!!!!! I am proud to be a part of QUIT OR SPLIT with you. Your quit inspires me. Keep it up man...........Don't ever look back.
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Hey Everybody.. Thanks for everything Guys.. I have not had one single craving all damn day! Go figure - yesterday my ass was on fire all day.. today - a walk in the park? all I can say is.. HMMMMMMM?? And truthfully I haven't even thought about it that much.. I don't know where I heard this.. "No Man is Free than can not command himself".. if all I am doing is thinking about a dip.. I am still not free.. doing it or not.. If I am thinking about it.. It has me by the nads... so I am honestly experiencing some of that real freedom that WT is talking about.. Gooch
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Hey Everybody.. Thanks for everything Guys.. I have not had one single craving all damn day! Go figure - yesterday my ass was on fire all day.. today - a walk in the park? all I can say is.. HMMMMMMM?? And truthfully I haven't even thought about it that much.. I don't know where I heard this.. "No Man is Free than can not command himself".. if all I am doing is thinking about a dip.. I am still not free.. doing it or not.. If I am thinking about it.. It has me by the nads... so I am honestly experiencing some of that real freedom that WT is talking about.. Gooch
Enjoy it.. this is what you are fighting for.
STAY QUIT
Greg
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Day 49.. No serous craves for a day or two.. Depression has kicked my ass for past few days though.. Don't know for sure if it's that or just me and the lil lady fighting! Whatever it is it sucks.. I'm good though! Real good because I AM QUIT!!!
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Nice work man. Amazing how changing your life for the better can put you in the dumpster now and then. It will pass. And your gigantic balls of steel will swing in the breeze once again.
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Nice work man. Amazing how changing your life for the better can put you in the dumpster now and then. It will pass. And your gigantic balls of steel will swing in the breeze once again.
x2, keep on working through it. Good and bad times don't last, only your quit does. Proud to be quit w/you today.
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Hey All.. the concept of this website as far as I can see is pretty well recovery based? Seems we are missing some key principles that helps to keep any organization from frazzling during tough times.. ( I am not saying this one is getting ready to frazzle for those of you ready to fire off some of those fucking go to hell messages) I guess what I am saying is I see a hell of a lot of drama that needs to be left somewhere else other than here. I think we are here to quit tobacco and help others to do the same.. I don't know where in the hell it came from and who brainwashed who into believing that if you cave you are an incredible failure.. doomed to a life of dread and groveling to be accepted again into this fold.. thank God I have not caved in 53 days.. If i did after seeing what I have seen here, it is highly unlikely I would come back here for support.. because when someone does cave I don't see a lot of support I see a lot of shit giving! It doesn't mean I am a failure.. it means I am an addict! For the last at least 30 years I have accomplished a lot of shit.. A HELL OF A LOT OF SHIT! - As I am certain a lot of us here have! I will not make a list because it would sound an awful lot like bragging! Guess what? Every damn thing I accomplished I did with a dip in my mouth! does that mean I am a failure.. Hell no! means I am an addict! The reason I am here - My number 1 motivation! is to yet accomplish yet another goal in my life.. the goal of an entirely drug free chaos free dysfunctional free life! I understand passion! I am full of passion! I understand accountability! I also understand - support and understanding! That's one thing about being an addict, the main and only reason one addict will listen to another is "understanding"! The reason I haven't posted in a few days is because of all the damn drama! I am tired of it! Sometimes I seriously feel like I am with a bunch of high school girls instead of tough ass quitters! Come on quitters.. Why are we here?? Gooch
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I hear ya Gooch, but the drama will always be here. Some days more than others. High school girl drama ? Feels more like Golden Girl seniors drama to me.
Dunno if I agree with your comment about cavers. Yea they take a bit of a beating when they come back but overall I think they still are welcomed back quit quickly. So much so that someone created a adopt a noob program and described the concept with this line ....
The Adopt-a-Quitter program was founded in July 2012 in response to the overwhelming amount of cavers re-joining KTC during the "open" period of October 2012. The cavers enjoyed more support from "Vets" than the true noobs.
I think that is a legitimate problem that has happened far too often.
Ignore the go to hell messages. You have a good quit going. Don't get distracted by those that are in a constant state of PMS.
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I don't know where in the hell it came from and who brainwashed who into believing that if you cave you are an incredible failure.. doomed to a life of dread and groveling to be accepted again into this fold.. thank God I have not caved in 53 days.. If i did after seeing what I have seen here, it is highly unlikely I would come back here for support.. because when someone does cave I don't see a lot of support I see a lot of shit giving!Â
Take a look around, bro. Some of the biggest badasses on here are former cavers.
We post a promise each day to stay quit, that is the premise of this program. If you break your promise and cave, those of us who kept our word, our honor, and our quit are justifiably vexed. You're suggesting we should shrug it off and welcome a caver back immediately with open arms, with no conditions?
I don't want KTC to be like that. Accountability, honor, and the fact that I'd let down and piss off a group of guys that I have a ton of respect for . . . is one of the things that galvanizes my quit. And theirs, I suspect.
Stay strong, and stick around. You can tune out the drama, just stay quit.
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I don't know where in the hell it came from and who brainwashed who into believing that if you cave you are an incredible failure.. doomed to a life of dread and groveling to be accepted again into this fold.. thank God I have not caved in 53 days.. If i did after seeing what I have seen here, it is highly unlikely I would come back here for support.. because when someone does cave I don't see a lot of support I see a lot of shit giving!Â
Take a look around, bro. Some of the biggest badasses on here are former cavers.
We post a promise each day to stay quit, that is the premise of this program. If you break your promise and cave, those of us who kept our word, our honor, and our quit are justifiably vexed. You're suggesting we should shrug it off and welcome a caver back immediately with open arms, with no conditions?
I don't want KTC to be like that. Accountability, honor, and the fact that I'd let down and piss off a group of guys that I have a ton of respect for . . . is one of the things that galvanizes my quit. And theirs, I suspect.
Stay strong, and stick around. You can tune out the drama, just stay quit.
I thought the same way. I can tell you after 143 days, I don't plan to cave. If I did, I would come to KTC and take my deserved beatings. Why? Vets save lives (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6649)
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I don't know where in the hell it came from and who brainwashed who into believing that if you cave you are an incredible failure.. doomed to a life of dread and groveling to be accepted again into this fold.. thank God I have not caved in 53 days.. If i did after seeing what I have seen here, it is highly unlikely I would come back here for support.. because when someone does cave I don't see a lot of support I see a lot of shit giving!Â
Take a look around, bro. Some of the biggest badasses on here are former cavers.
We post a promise each day to stay quit, that is the premise of this program. If you break your promise and cave, those of us who kept our word, our honor, and our quit are justifiably vexed. You're suggesting we should shrug it off and welcome a caver back immediately with open arms, with no conditions?
I don't want KTC to be like that. Accountability, honor, and the fact that I'd let down and piss off a group of guys that I have a ton of respect for . . . is one of the things that galvanizes my quit. And theirs, I suspect.
Stay strong, and stick around. You can tune out the drama, just stay quit.
I thought the same way. I can tell you after 143 days, I don't plan to cave. If I did, I would come to KTC and take my deserved beatings. Why? Vets save lives (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6649)
Then I would say you falsely led us to believe you were a man of your word to begin with. If you could not own up to a cave, how can you look yourself in the mirror and respect who you see looking back.
If one of my kids fucks up and admits it to me, a couple of things are going to happen:
1) They are going to hear about it and be reprimanded for it.
2) They are always going to know where their father stands and what he stands for
3) I am going to have an increased level of respect for them for the integrity they've shown even though that integrity results in them being reprimanded for their actions
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I don't know where in the hell it came from and who brainwashed who into believing that if you cave you are an incredible failure.. doomed to a life of dread and groveling to be accepted again into this fold.. thank God I have not caved in 53 days.. If i did after seeing what I have seen here, it is highly unlikely I would come back here for support.. because when someone does cave I don't see a lot of support I see a lot of shit giving!Â
Take a look around, bro. Some of the biggest badasses on here are former cavers.
We post a promise each day to stay quit, that is the premise of this program. If you break your promise and cave, those of us who kept our word, our honor, and our quit are justifiably vexed. You're suggesting we should shrug it off and welcome a caver back immediately with open arms, with no conditions?
I don't want KTC to be like that. Accountability, honor, and the fact that I'd let down and piss off a group of guys that I have a ton of respect for . . . is one of the things that galvanizes my quit. And theirs, I suspect.
Stay strong, and stick around. You can tune out the drama, just stay quit.
I thought the same way. I can tell you after 143 days, I don't plan to cave. If I did, I would come to KTC and take my deserved beatings. Why? Vets save lives (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6649)
Then I would say you falsely led us to believe you were a man of your word to begin with. If you could not own up to a cave, how can you look yourself in the mirror and respect who you see looking back.
If one of my kids fucks up and admits it to me, a couple of things are going to happen:
1) They are going to hear about it and be reprimanded for it.
2) They are always going to know where their father stands and what he stands for
3) I am going to have an increased level of respect for them for the integrity they've shown even though that integrity results in them being reprimanded for their actions
'clap'
That's pretty bad ass. I heard somewhere, "reprove at times with sharpness, afterwords showing an increase of love lest they esteem you an enemy."
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That's pretty bad ass. I heard somewhere, "reprove at times with sharpness, afterwords showing an increase of love lest they esteem you an enemy." [/QUOTE]
I think that's some of that goofy Mormon stuff you're quoting..
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I don't know where in the hell it came from and who brainwashed who into believing that if you cave you are an incredible failure.. doomed to a life of dread and groveling to be accepted again into this fold.. thank God I have not caved in 53 days.. If i did after seeing what I have seen here, it is highly unlikely I would come back here for support.. because when someone does cave I don't see a lot of support I see a lot of shit giving!Â
Take a look around, bro. Some of the biggest badasses on here are former cavers.
We post a promise each day to stay quit, that is the premise of this program. If you break your promise and cave, those of us who kept our word, our honor, and our quit are justifiably vexed. You're suggesting we should shrug it off and welcome a caver back immediately with open arms, with no conditions?
I don't want KTC to be like that. Accountability, honor, and the fact that I'd let down and piss off a group of guys that I have a ton of respect for . . . is one of the things that galvanizes my quit. And theirs, I suspect.
Stay strong, and stick around. You can tune out the drama, just stay quit.
I thought the same way. I can tell you after 143 days, I don't plan to cave. If I did, I would come to KTC and take my deserved beatings. Why? Vets save lives (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6649)
Then I would say you falsely led us to believe you were a man of your word to begin with. If you could not own up to a cave, how can you look yourself in the mirror and respect who you see looking back.
If one of my kids fucks up and admits it to me, a couple of things are going to happen:
1) They are going to hear about it and be reprimanded for it.
2) They are always going to know where their father stands and what he stands for
3) I am going to have an increased level of respect for them for the integrity they've shown even though that integrity results in them being reprimanded for their actions
'clap'
That's pretty bad ass. I heard somewhere, "reprove at times with sharpness, afterwords showing an increase of love lest they esteem you an enemy."
Cavers deserve to be broken down before they are built back up because there is NEVER a valid reason for caving, just addict excuses. The caver not only broke a promise to themselves, they broke a promise to all of us if they posted roll.
While the peer support here is an awesome thing, I don't believe peer pressure alone will not keep someone from caving. Personal integrity is what will keep you quit in the long run. And when someone caves they prove at least temporarily they are without integrity.
Yes, some on the site do "pile on", I suspect in part because of nic rage. But the more sage and experienced supporters are simply trying to get the caver to understand exactly where and how they failed so they can avoid the same failure in the future.
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I don't know where in the hell it came from and who brainwashed who into believing that if you cave you are an incredible failure.. doomed to a life of dread and groveling to be accepted again into this fold.. thank God I have not caved in 53 days.. If i did after seeing what I have seen here, it is highly unlikely I would come back here for support.. because when someone does cave I don't see a lot of support I see a lot of shit giving!Â
Take a look around, bro. Some of the biggest badasses on here are former cavers.
We post a promise each day to stay quit, that is the premise of this program. If you break your promise and cave, those of us who kept our word, our honor, and our quit are justifiably vexed. You're suggesting we should shrug it off and welcome a caver back immediately with open arms, with no conditions?
I don't want KTC to be like that. Accountability, honor, and the fact that I'd let down and piss off a group of guys that I have a ton of respect for . . . is one of the things that galvanizes my quit. And theirs, I suspect.
Stay strong, and stick around. You can tune out the drama, just stay quit.
I thought the same way. I can tell you after 143 days, I don't plan to cave. If I did, I would come to KTC and take my deserved beatings. Why? Vets save lives (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6649)
Then I would say you falsely led us to believe you were a man of your word to begin with. If you could not own up to a cave, how can you look yourself in the mirror and respect who you see looking back.
If one of my kids fucks up and admits it to me, a couple of things are going to happen:
1) They are going to hear about it and be reprimanded for it.
2) They are always going to know where their father stands and what he stands for
3) I am going to have an increased level of respect for them for the integrity they've shown even though that integrity results in them being reprimanded for their actions
'clap'
That's pretty bad ass. I heard somewhere, "reprove at times with sharpness, afterwords showing an increase of love lest they esteem you an enemy."
Cavers deserve to be broken down before they are built back up because there is NEVER a valid reason for caving, just addict excuses. The caver not only broke a promise to themselves, they broke a promise to all of us if they posted roll.
While the peer support here is an awesome thing, I don't believe peer pressure alone will not keep someone from caving. Personal integrity is what will keep you quit in the long run. And when someone caves they prove at least temporarily they are without integrity.
Yes, some on the site do "pile on", I suspect in part because of nic rage. But the more sage and experienced supporters are simply trying to get the caver to understand exactly where and how they failed so they can avoid the same failure in the future.
I am a failure.
I was handed the keys to freedom once, and I stopped rather easily in perspective. My physical pain was Much less than the emotional pain I was feeling at the time (my mom was dying of cancer). All these crappy quitting feelings got all messed up with my mourning. I tried my best to sweep everything under the rug and I lost perspective.
My original group is December 2006. They are posting numbers in the 2200s. I posted 401 today.
When I returned, I was stupid. I pulled the same Fucking shenanigans these guys did initially. I thought I was special and needed drugs to keep me happy to stay quit. Nicotine was too Much a part of my life. These fuckers with 150 days named gmann and 30 yraddict knew nothing about "long time Quitting". I knew there was trouble after 150 days and they weren't homefree. Why were they talking down to me like I'm an idiotic?
Instead of pouting and doing it my way, I grabbed as many new guys to support with me as I could. I stood up for every Fucking caver, and I was the first in line if/when that person fucked up. I admitted my mistakes, and although I regretted them, I learned from them. I learned that memory is arbitrary to state of mind. If you feel good, you forget the bad. I learned that I had to practice for the bad in times of good, and lean on my tools in times of bad.
The reason I "get a pass" (as some have put it) is that I have walked the walk everyday. I have yet to miss roll, and I stay active here. I don't do this because of you guys. I do this for me. I know this program will keep me quit and I want to make sure I will never fail again. Walking someone off the ledge makes my quit stronger. Pointing out flawed logic does the same. Seeing badasses like Mccarmo and coach Steve take words I said to them 200 days ago and craft it into unbelievable support is absolutely wonderful and makes my quit Fucking strong as hell.
If you'll ever notice, most of the time, the very first post post cave is somebody asking the 3 questions. The bullshit and piling on happen when that caver ignores the questions or gives bullshit answers without fully admitting "I fucked up and chose to use". Those 3 questions are the first step. After that, they'll walk the walk if they learned anything at all.
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I don't know where in the hell it came from and who brainwashed who into believing that if you cave you are an incredible failure.. doomed to a life of dread and groveling to be accepted again into this fold.. thank God I have not caved in 53 days.. If i did after seeing what I have seen here, it is highly unlikely I would come back here for support.. because when someone does cave I don't see a lot of support I see a lot of shit giving!Â
Take a look around, bro. Some of the biggest badasses on here are former cavers.
We post a promise each day to stay quit, that is the premise of this program. If you break your promise and cave, those of us who kept our word, our honor, and our quit are justifiably vexed. You're suggesting we should shrug it off and welcome a caver back immediately with open arms, with no conditions?
I don't want KTC to be like that. Accountability, honor, and the fact that I'd let down and piss off a group of guys that I have a ton of respect for . . . is one of the things that galvanizes my quit. And theirs, I suspect.
Stay strong, and stick around. You can tune out the drama, just stay quit.
I thought the same way. I can tell you after 143 days, I don't plan to cave. If I did, I would come to KTC and take my deserved beatings. Why? Vets save lives (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6649)
Then I would say you falsely led us to believe you were a man of your word to begin with. If you could not own up to a cave, how can you look yourself in the mirror and respect who you see looking back.
If one of my kids fucks up and admits it to me, a couple of things are going to happen:
1) They are going to hear about it and be reprimanded for it.
2) They are always going to know where their father stands and what he stands for
3) I am going to have an increased level of respect for them for the integrity they've shown even though that integrity results in them being reprimanded for their actions
'clap'
That's pretty bad ass. I heard somewhere, "reprove at times with sharpness, afterwords showing an increase of love lest they esteem you an enemy."
Cavers deserve to be broken down before they are built back up because there is NEVER a valid reason for caving, just addict excuses. The caver not only broke a promise to themselves, they broke a promise to all of us if they posted roll.
While the peer support here is an awesome thing, I don't believe peer pressure alone will not keep someone from caving. Personal integrity is what will keep you quit in the long run. And when someone caves they prove at least temporarily they are without integrity.
Yes, some on the site do "pile on", I suspect in part because of nic rage. But the more sage and experienced supporters are simply trying to get the caver to understand exactly where and how they failed so they can avoid the same failure in the future.
I am a failure.
I was handed the keys to freedom once, and I stopped rather easily in perspective. My physical pain was Much less than the emotional pain I was feeling at the time (my mom was dying of cancer). All these crappy quitting feelings got all messed up with my mourning. I tried my best to sweep everything under the rug and I lost perspective.
My original group is December 2006. They are posting numbers in the 2200s. I posted 401 today.
When I returned, I was stupid. I pulled the same Fucking shenanigans these guys did initially. I thought I was special and needed drugs to keep me happy to stay quit. Nicotine was too Much a part of my life. These fuckers with 150 days named gmann and 30 yraddict knew nothing about "long time Quitting". I knew there was trouble after 150 days and they weren't homefree. Why were they talking down to me like I'm an idiotic?
Instead of pouting and doing it my way, I grabbed as many new guys to support with me as I could. I stood up for every Fucking caver, and I was the first in line if/when that person fucked up. I admitted my mistakes, and although I regretted them, I learned from them. I learned that memory is arbitrary to state of mind. If you feel good, you forget the bad. I learned that I had to practice for the bad in times of good, and lean on my tools in times of bad.
The reason I "get a pass" (as some have put it) is that I have walked the walk everyday. I have yet to miss roll, and I stay active here. I don't do this because of you guys. I do this for me. I know this program will keep me quit and I want to make sure I will never fail again. Walking someone off the ledge makes my quit stronger. Pointing out flawed logic does the same. Seeing badasses like Mccarmo and coach Steve take words I said to them 200 days ago and craft it into unbelievable support is absolutely wonderful and makes my quit Fucking strong as hell.
If you'll ever notice, most of the time, the very first post post cave is somebody asking the 3 questions. The bullshit and piling on happen when that caver ignores the questions or gives bullshit answers without fully admitting "I fucked up and chose to use". Those 3 questions are the first step. After that, they'll walk the walk if they learned anything at all.
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Very well said !!
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I hear ya Gooch, but the drama will always be here. Some days more than others. High school girl drama ? Feels more like Golden Girl seniors drama to me.
Dunno if I agree with your comment about cavers. Yea they take a bit of a beating when they come back but overall I think they still are welcomed back quit quickly. So much so that someone created a adopt a noob program and described the concept with this line ....
The Adopt-a-Quitter program was founded in July 2012 in response to the overwhelming amount of cavers re-joining KTC during the "open" period of October 2012. The cavers enjoyed more support from "Vets" than the true noobs.
I think that is a legitimate problem that has happened far too often.
Ignore the go to hell messages. You have a good quit going. Don't get distracted by those that are in a constant state of PMS.
Ignore the go to hell messages. You have a good quit going. Don't get distracted by those that are in a constant state of PMS.
Now thats some helpful advice!! The kind that keeps me coming back and wanting more QUIT!
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Mike, Your quit is very powerful. So powerful that I drew strength from your quit all day long yesterday. It happened when you posted roll yesterday and left a comment with your roll. Your post kept me strong for the whole day..I didn't even use any life savers.
Your powerful post said: I am one bad mother fucker! Smell my breath! No Dip there!
Proud to be QUIT with YOU.
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Mike, Your quit is very powerful. So powerful that I drew strength from your quit all day long yesterday. It happened when you posted roll yesterday and left a comment with your roll. Your post kept me strong for the whole day..I didn't even use any life savers.
Your powerful post said:Â I am one bad mother fucker! Smell my breath! No Dip there!
Proud to be QUIT with YOU.
30 I really needed this today! Thanks Bro.. Why are we here? To help each other.. you helped me BIG TIME!
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Hey Ladies... I got my teeth cleaned today! That is actually something I've done pretty regular for the past 9 years or so.. Same gal has been doing it all that time.. She was amazed at how well my gums were looking today! Keep in mind she's seen the good, the bad the ugly.. She's been there through all of my gum graft surgeries.. She and the perio-surgeon both can hardly believe my teeth didn't fall out.. Nor can I.. A few times before the surgeries I practically had exposed roots.. Another thing.. The dentist looking at my teeth today said that smokeless tobacco was the hardest of all nic addictions to kick.. It is the delivery method he said.. Goes straight from the arteries under the tongue directly to the heart! no passing through the lungs like smokers.. that is why we are all so damn addicted.. it is a KA-fucking-POW of nicotine.. guess what.. WE ARE ALL SOME BAD MOTHER FUCKERS!!! tough sumbitches!!! we are fighting and winning.. Bring it on Nic Bitch.. I have confidence now. I have kicked your ass for 60 days.. now I know I can do it... Confidence is a very good thing.. (just don't get over confident and stop doing what you been doing)..
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Hey Ladies... I got my teeth cleaned today! That is actually something I've done pretty regular for the past 9 years or so.. Same gal has been doing it all that time.. She was amazed at how well my gums were looking today! Keep in mind she's seen the good, the bad the ugly.. She's been there through all of my gum graft surgeries.. She and the perio-surgeon both can hardly believe my teeth didn't fall out.. Nor can I.. A few times before the surgeries I practically has exposed roots.. Another thing.. The dentist looking at my teeth today said that smokeless tobacco was the hardest of all nic addictions to kick.. It is the delivery method he said.. Goes straight from the arteries under the tongue directly to the heart! no passing through the lungs like smokers.. that is why we are all so damn addicted.. it is a KA-fucking-POW of nicotine.. guess what.. WE ARE ALL SOME BAD MOTHER FUCKERS!!! tough sumbitches!!! we are fighting and winning.. Bring it on Nic Bitch.. I have confidence now. I have kicked your ass for 60 days.. now I know I can do it... Confidence is a very good thing.. (just don't get over confident and stop doing what you been doing)..
with ya Gooch and proud of it, QLAFM
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Hey Ladies... I got my teeth cleaned today! That is actually something I've done pretty regular for the past 9 years or so.. Same gal has been doing it all that time.. She was amazed at how well my gums were looking today! Keep in mind she's seen the good, the bad the ugly.. She's been there through all of my gum graft surgeries.. She and the perio-surgeon both can hardly believe my teeth didn't fall out.. Nor can I.. A few times before the surgeries I practically has exposed roots.. Another thing.. The dentist looking at my teeth today said that smokeless tobacco was the hardest of all nic addictions to kick.. It is the delivery method he said.. Goes straight from the arteries under the tongue directly to the heart! no passing through the lungs like smokers.. that is why we are all so damn addicted.. it is a KA-fucking-POW of nicotine.. guess what.. WE ARE ALL SOME BAD MOTHER FUCKERS!!! tough sumbitches!!! we are fighting and winning.. Bring it on Nic Bitch.. I have confidence now. I have kicked your ass for 60 days.. now I know I can do it... Confidence is a very good thing.. (just don't get over confident and stop doing what you been doing)..
with ya Gooch and proud of it, QLAFM
You're a badass Gooch. I love being quit with you. Rarely do I think someone's quit is any harder than anyone else's, but there are rare occasions. In my opinion yours might fall into that category. Your quit inspires me. If you can do it, then I know I can do it. You are doing a great thing man!
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Hey Ladies... I got my teeth cleaned today! That is actually something I've done pretty regular for the past 9 years or so.. Same gal has been doing it all that time.. She was amazed at how well my gums were looking today! Keep in mind she's seen the good, the bad the ugly.. She's been there through all of my gum graft surgeries.. She and the perio-surgeon both can hardly believe my teeth didn't fall out.. Nor can I.. A few times before the surgeries I practically has exposed roots.. Another thing.. The dentist looking at my teeth today said that smokeless tobacco was the hardest of all nic addictions to kick.. It is the delivery method he said.. Goes straight from the arteries under the tongue directly to the heart! no passing through the lungs like smokers.. that is why we are all so damn addicted.. it is a KA-fucking-POW of nicotine.. guess what.. WE ARE ALL SOME BAD MOTHER FUCKERS!!! tough sumbitches!!! we are fighting and winning.. Bring it on Nic Bitch.. I have confidence now. I have kicked your ass for 60 days.. now I know I can do it... Confidence is a very good thing.. (just don't get over confident and stop doing what you been doing)..
with ya Gooch and proud of it, QLAFM
You're a badass Gooch. I love being quit with you. Rarely do I think someone's quit is any harder than anyone else's, but there are rare occasions. In my opinion yours might fall into that category. Your quit inspires me. If you can do it, then I know I can do it. You are doing a great thing man!
Gooch you have definitely been through hell and back brother. I will say this though you are one tough sumbitch and I will quit with you anyday,today,tomorrow,or next week. KTC is for quitters!!!
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Hey Ladies... I got my teeth cleaned today! That is actually something I've done pretty regular for the past 9 years or so.. Same gal has been doing it all that time.. She was amazed at how well my gums were looking today! Keep in mind she's seen the good, the bad the ugly.. She's been there through all of my gum graft surgeries.. She and the perio-surgeon both can hardly believe my teeth didn't fall out.. Nor can I.. A few times before the surgeries I practically has exposed roots.. Another thing.. The dentist looking at my teeth today said that smokeless tobacco was the hardest of all nic addictions to kick.. It is the delivery method he said.. Goes straight from the arteries under the tongue directly to the heart! no passing through the lungs like smokers.. that is why we are all so damn addicted.. it is a KA-fucking-POW of nicotine.. guess what.. WE ARE ALL SOME BAD MOTHER FUCKERS!!! tough sumbitches!!! we are fighting and winning.. Bring it on Nic Bitch.. I have confidence now. I have kicked your ass for 60 days.. now I know I can do it... Confidence is a very good thing.. (just don't get over confident and stop doing what you been doing)..
with ya Gooch and proud of it, QLAFM
You're a badass Gooch. I love being quit with you. Rarely do I think someone's quit is any harder than anyone else's, but there are rare occasions. In my opinion yours might fall into that category. Your quit inspires me. If you can do it, then I know I can do it. You are doing a great thing man!
Gooch you have definitely been through hell and back brother. I will say this though you are one tough sumbitch and I will quit with you anyday,today,tomorrow,or next week. KTC is for quitters!!!
Fuck Chuck Norris...I'm gonna start a web page about the toughness of the Gooch!
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Shit Boys!! It's you guys!! You're the tough ones!! You blazed the damn trial for the rest of us pussys that could not find another way..then one day the sky opened up and there you all were.. Quit Angels!!! floating around on quit clouds with skid marks! truthfully fellas.. I ain't that tough, I talk a good game, but some days I am hanging on by the skin of my clean teeth! But I AM QUIT. that is a fact.. At this stage I will die quitting and fighting if i have to.. to the glorious victorious end!!! Seriously Thanks Fellas!
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Hey Ladies... I got my teeth cleaned today! That is actually something I've done pretty regular for the past 9 years or so.. Same gal has been doing it all that time.. She was amazed at how well my gums were looking today! Keep in mind she's seen the good, the bad the ugly.. She's been there through all of my gum graft surgeries.. She and the perio-surgeon both can hardly believe my teeth didn't fall out.. Nor can I.. A few times before the surgeries I practically had exposed roots.. Another thing.. The dentist looking at my teeth today said that smokeless tobacco was the hardest of all nic addictions to kick.. It is the delivery method he said.. Goes straight from the arteries under the tongue directly to the heart! no passing through the lungs like smokers.. that is why we are all so damn addicted.. it is a KA-fucking-POW of nicotine.. guess what.. WE ARE ALL SOME BAD MOTHER FUCKERS!!! tough sumbitches!!! we are fighting and winning.. Bring it on Nic Bitch.. I have confidence now. I have kicked your ass for 60 days.. now I know I can do it... Confidence is a very good thing.. (just don't get over confident and stop doing what you been doing)..
Your a bad ass Gooch...Heading to the dentist for the first time at One O Clock!! I am nervous as shit....I have some very bad gum exposure myself.
I promised myself if I quit for 60 days I would go to the dentist.on Day 61, so here I go.....
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Hey Ladies... I got my teeth cleaned today! That is actually something I've done pretty regular for the past 9 years or so.. Same gal has been doing it all that time.. She was amazed at how well my gums were looking today! Keep in mind she's seen the good, the bad the ugly.. She's been there through all of my gum graft surgeries.. She and the perio-surgeon both can hardly believe my teeth didn't fall out.. Nor can I.. A few times before the surgeries I practically had exposed roots.. Another thing.. The dentist looking at my teeth today said that smokeless tobacco was the hardest of all nic addictions to kick.. It is the delivery method he said.. Goes straight from the arteries under the tongue directly to the heart! no passing through the lungs like smokers.. that is why we are all so damn addicted.. it is a KA-fucking-POW of nicotine.. guess what.. WE ARE ALL SOME BAD MOTHER FUCKERS!!! tough sumbitches!!! we are fighting and winning.. Bring it on Nic Bitch.. I have confidence now. I have kicked your ass for 60 days.. now I know I can do it... Confidence is a very good thing.. (just don't get over confident and stop doing what you been doing)..
Your a bad ass Gooch...Heading to the dentist for the first time at One O Clock!! I am nervous as shit....I have some very bad gum exposure myself.
I promised myself if I quit for 60 days I would go to the dentist.on Day 61, so here I go.....
At the very least, your gums are better off because of your last 60 days.
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Mmmm-mmrny-mmmrd-mm-mu-mooch!
(That's me practicing my ventriloquy.)
My muppet would actually be saying,
"I'm very proud of you Gooch!"
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not gonna lie, but gooch your story is what made me finally realize now is the time to quit when i read it 9 days ago. the story about the gum graft surgeries and all the other shit you've gone through....i said thats it, im done. i flushed my can and posted roll. i just wanted to say thanks for sharing your stories and im glad im quit with you
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not gonna lie, but gooch your story is what made me finally realize now is the time to quit when i read it 9 days ago. the story about the gum graft surgeries and all the other shit you've gone through....i said thats it, im done. i flushed my can and posted roll. i just wanted to say thanks for sharing your stories and im glad im quit with you
'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
Good to hear, the sooner the bettter!!
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Hey Ladies... I got my teeth cleaned today! That is actually something I've done pretty regular for the past 9 years or so.. Same gal has been doing it all that time.. She was amazed at how well my gums were looking today! Keep in mind she's seen the good, the bad the ugly.. She's been there through all of my gum graft surgeries.. She and the perio-surgeon both can hardly believe my teeth didn't fall out.. Nor can I.. A few times before the surgeries I practically had exposed roots.. Another thing.. The dentist looking at my teeth today said that smokeless tobacco was the hardest of all nic addictions to kick.. It is the delivery method he said.. Goes straight from the arteries under the tongue directly to the heart! no passing through the lungs like smokers.. that is why we are all so damn addicted.. it is a KA-fucking-POW of nicotine.. guess what.. WE ARE ALL SOME BAD MOTHER FUCKERS!!! tough sumbitches!!! we are fighting and winning.. Bring it on Nic Bitch.. I have confidence now. I have kicked your ass for 60 days.. now I know I can do it... Confidence is a very good thing.. (just don't get over confident and stop doing what you been doing)..
Yeah Mike I love the way you lay it out there! We can't have any candy coating how serious this nicotine addiction is. I've been having some real issues with my throat and difficulty swallowing, a cough that would not go away. I had an appointment with ear nose and throat specialist this week. The Dr ask a lot of questions didn't seem overly concerned until I told him that I was a former dipper. After I told him that he wanted to get a closer look. He ran the scope down through my nose looked at my throat. No visible problems. He then told me the samething, how difficult the addiction is to kick. "NO SHIT"!! Then I gave him. The KTC info. This is a battle for us to fight on all fronts, we can help save lives!!
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I was told by my dentist to get a gum graph. I have one area under one tooth that has pulled back. It doesn't hurt or bother me. I've been on the fence for some time, but now that I'm quit I'm thinking about it again. After reading Gooch's story It makes me nervous. My dentist, and I'm sure most always recommend the most expensive procedures, so I wonder if it's even necessary? I know it won't get worse, as I'm take good care of my teeth now.
so happy to quit with you guys.... you're all my inspiration each day. I have the nic bitch by the throat and squeezing a little harder every day!
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I come from a very long line of tobacco users ladies.. I go to the hospital evening of Aug 13th.. to visit my 2nd cousin that just had a baby.. He is 21 years old.. I go into the room he's laying on the bed with his newborn with a big ole fatty in his lip spitting in a bottle.. You know I don't judge him and you shouldn't either.. He is an addict like the rest of us here.. We have found the answer for today he hasn't.. that's really not the subject of my post either.. the subject of my post is this - I WANT TO DIP THIS MORNING! There was a lot of drama in this group yesterday.. There was a lot of drama with me and my crazy fucking girlfriend yesterday too.. I hate drama.. I don't sleep much last night... I get up this morning after a few hours of sleep and I get ready to post up.. Then I think You know if I don't post - I don't promise.. Maybe I am going to just fucking cave this morning.. A dip would be fucking NICE!!! (It's not the horse shit of only having one - I want a big one and I want it all f-ing day!).. Then I think about my 2nd cousin - where he is at? Where I have been for the largest part of my life.. for the last 30 years anyway (I'm 44).. I have been addicted... This morning I am not addicted.. I am 66 days clean.. My head is still a little fucked and I will always be an addict.. but as far as the shit goes.. It is OUT of my system.. Don't be a stupid sumbitch Gooch! Post up and be a quitter!!! Fucking A!!! I quit with the rest of you that struggle just like I do sometimes.. But you keep coming back.. posting up - making a promise QUITTING LIKE FUCK!! I am with you! Gooch
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I come from a very long line of tobacco users ladies.. I go to the hospital evening of Aug 13th.. to visit my 2nd cousin that just had a baby.. He is 21 years old.. I go into the room he's laying on the bed with his newborn with a big ole fatty in his lip spitting in a bottle.. You know I don't judge him and you shouldn't either.. He is an addict like the rest of us here.. We have found the answer for today he hasn't.. that's really not the subject of my post either.. the subject of my post is this - I WANT TO DIP THIS MORNING! There was a lot of drama in this group yesterday.. There was a lot of drama with me and my crazy fucking girlfriend yesterday too.. I hate drama.. I don't sleep much last night... I get up this morning after a few hours of sleep and I get ready to post up.. Then I think You know if I don't post - I don't promise.. Maybe I am going to just fucking cave this morning.. A dip would be fucking NICE!!! (It's not the horse shit of only having one - I want a big one and I want it all f-ing day!).. Then I think about my 2nd cousin - where he is at? Where I have been for the largest part of my life.. for the last 30 years anyway (I'm 44).. I have been addicted... This morning I am not addicted.. I am 66 days clean.. My head is still a little fucked and I will always be an addict.. but as far as the shit goes.. It is OUT of my system.. Don't be a stupid sumbitch Gooch! Post up and be a quitter!!! Fucking A!!! I quit with the rest of you that struggle just like I do sometimes.. But you keep coming back.. posting up - making a promise QUITTING LIKE FUCK!! I am with you! Gooch
Gooch, I've been there, and I think we've all been there lately, but when the bitch visits me, I look at her differently now. Sure you (think) the dip would be great, but the others factors far out weigh this silly thought. Enjoy the new addition to your family, hopefully your cousin will see the light. You need to be his example my friend. be strong we all got u back, and we all quit with you!
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A FUCKING MEN GOOCH!!!
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I was in that place the other day as well. I didn't hesitate to go to the store and buy some Smokey Mountain. Put a couple pinches in and boom, the bitch was gone. Don't be too proud to use a crutch if you need to every now and again. Don't tempt fate.
Proud of you Gooch.
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Way to fight Gooch. It takes a REAL FUCKING man to step back, think logically, weigh everything out, and make the right decision. A fucking coward runs to the store, buys a can and fills his lip with cat shit that will kill him thinking it will solve the many problems life throws at him. I was that coward, didn't realize it then but I really was. For the past 73 days I've been a man, and I fucking love being a real man.
I KNOW you are a MAN Gooch, and an inspiration to me and others on this site. Way to man up and and set an example of how a fucking CHAMP reacts when tempted by the nic bitch!!! I got your back anytime you need it!!!
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Gooch you are definitely one badass quitter! I'm so glad to be quit with you, might be something in the air. I had a massive crave few days ago and Steve yesterday! The thing is we all won we beat the bitch, those that don't freedom eludes therm awhile longer
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I come from a very long line of tobacco users ladies.. I go to the hospital evening of Aug 13th.. to visit my 2nd cousin that just had a baby.. He is 21 years old.. I go into the room he's laying on the bed with his newborn with a big ole fatty in his lip spitting in a bottle.. You know I don't judge him and you shouldn't either.. He is an addict like the rest of us here.. We have found the answer for today he hasn't.. that's really not the subject of my post either.. the subject of my post is this - I WANT TO DIP THIS MORNING! There was a lot of drama in this group yesterday.. There was a lot of drama with me and my crazy fucking girlfriend yesterday too.. I hate drama.. I don't sleep much last night... I get up this morning after a few hours of sleep and I get ready to post up.. Then I think You know if I don't post - I don't promise.. Maybe I am going to just fucking cave this morning.. A dip would be fucking NICE!!! (It's not the horse shit of only having one - I want a big one and I want it all f-ing day!).. Then I think about my 2nd cousin - where he is at? Where I have been for the largest part of my life.. for the last 30 years anyway (I'm 44).. I have been addicted... This morning I am not addicted.. I am 66 days clean.. My head is still a little fucked and I will always be an addict.. but as far as the shit goes.. It is OUT of my system.. Don't be a stupid sumbitch Gooch! Post up and be a quitter!!! Fucking A!!! I quit with the rest of you that struggle just like I do sometimes.. But you keep coming back.. posting up - making a promise QUITTING LIKE FUCK!! I am with you! Gooch
Way to fight through it Gooch.
If the drama is getting you down, walk away from it and read something else on the site. Posting early definitely is a great plan because pretty much everyday you will have some type of crave.
The most amazing part of your post is your cousin. He had a baby ???? wtf man what part of the world are you from ? Where I'm from dudes can't have babies.
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Thx Boys!! for all the support and kind words! Carumba - Sorry Man I should've explained... In KY we are some bad asses! We quit and have babies! If we don't quit and have babies we have dip babies (have you heard of crack babies - well this was a dip baby!) As you know my cousin hasn't quit yet so guess what? he had a dip baby.. Should've seen it.. little fella had this wild ass look in his eyes.. like he was looking for something but didn't know what? The titty didn't work when they gave it to him.. then he got a whiff of his daddy's breath! - done a back flip off that little cart - on to his daddy's shoulder and starting sucking on his daddy's lower lip... couldn't get him off either.. he was like an 8lb tick! Like I said - I come from a long line of tobacco users!
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Thx Boys!! for all the support and kind words! Carumba - Sorry Man I should've explained... In KY we are some bad asses! We quit and have babies! If we don't quit and have babies we have dip babies (have you heard of crack babies - well this was a dip baby!) As you know my cousin hasn't quit yet so guess what? he had a dip baby.. Should've seen it.. little fella had this wild ass look in his eyes.. like he was looking for something but didn't know what? The titty didn't work when they gave it to him.. then he got a whiff of his daddy's breath! - done a back flip off that little cart - on to his daddy's shoulder and starting sucking on his daddy's lower lip... couldn't get him off either.. he was like an 8lb tick! Like I said - I come from a long line of tobacco users!
Gooch I gotta thank you, that was some funny ass shit, and reading it just completly took away some anxiety that I just had going on.
Continue to stay strong, you are one bad ass quiter.
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Hey Ladies... Busy as shit last few days! This is a very good thing for me being self employed! Still for me, real busy = craving.. Today more this afternoon was BAD! Made it through again, however.. then I drove by the local BP/Baccer Shop (all you Yankees Yuppies - Baccer is what rednecks call tobacco) Roll of Grizzly $8.99! I don't even like Griz and I was like DAMN! Now this evening.. No biggie! So what about the rest of you Sept Quitters? Any ya'll getting some KINGSIZE craves hitting you in the late 60s early 70s? WTF?? Gooch
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Hey Ladies... Busy as shit last few days! This is a very good thing for me being self employed! Still for me, real busy = craving.. Today more this afternoon was BAD! Made it through again, however.. then I drove by the local BP/Baccer Shop (all you Yankees Yuppies - Baccer is what rednecks call tobacco) Roll of Grizzly $8.99! I don't even like Griz and I was like DAMN! Now this evening.. No biggie! So what about the rest of you Sept Quitters? Any ya'll getting some KINGSIZE craves hitting you in the late 60s early 70s? WTF?? Gooch
Do they REALLY call it baccer or is that just a redneck joke? I mean if I was in some backwoods kinda place like BFE Tennessee way up in the hills would guys walk into a store and ask for "some a that baccer"?
BTW - fuck the cravings Gooch - beat em down like I know you will. You don't crave that garbage anymore. Thats the nic bitch fuckin with you. Tell her to piss off. You crave life and the quit. You crave posting roll.
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Hey Ladies... Busy as shit last few days! This is a very good thing for me being self employed! Still for me, real busy = craving.. Today more this afternoon was BAD! Made it through again, however.. then I drove by the local BP/Baccer Shop (all you Yankees Yuppies - Baccer is what rednecks call tobacco) Roll of Grizzly $8.99! I don't even like Griz and I was like DAMN! Now this evening.. No biggie! So what about the rest of you Sept Quitters? Any ya'll getting some KINGSIZE craves hitting you in the late 60s early 70s? WTF?? Gooch
Do they REALLY call it baccer or is that just a redneck joke? I mean if I was in some backwoods kinda place like BFE Tennessee way up in the hills would guys walk into a store and ask for "some a that baccer"?
BTW - fuck the cravings Gooch - beat em down like I know you will. You don't crave that garbage anymore. Thats the nic bitch fuckin with you. Tell her to piss off. You crave life and the quit. You crave posting roll.
Morgan... Sadly there are some places in KY.. They would say the same thing.. Some people would still say "baccer".. No joke!
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Mike,
Yankee here craving every day. Although they are getting less intence and less frequent they'll always be there. I've found myself tapping my pocket on more then one occasion just because it's what I did even after 2 months of freedom. We can't expect habits to change so quickly, what took decades to develop. The important thing is we post up, don't give the bitch the cunnilingus she begs for and stick to your promise. You being here has strengthened the quit of many of us and even gotten some to dump the shit and post up. We've come too far to turn back now.
Be strong brotha! Don't give the slinky bitch a second glance.
Coping
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Day 73. Seems last week or so has been the hardest of my quit.. Yesterday I was dangerously close to a cave (I think).. A lady I am currently dong an auction for, my crazy GF I always complain about and also my business/life coach all pitched in yesterday and helped me through a very rough day of mental obsession.. can't really call it a crave after 71 days.. it was more of a mental obsession.. Everybody here that thinks we are steel balled fuckers and we are invincible.. That's actually a joke! We are not.. Put us on an island without each other and others around us to help and love us... then we are pretty much fucked! There is a power much bigger than ourselves that is keeping us from using today! I guess I better speak for myself! There is a power much bigger than me keeping me from using today! This power works through numbers..works through this site.. and works through those closest to me if I let it! Anybody here that does not believe they are powerless when it comes to this addiction.. you are fooling yourself.. if you are a true addict you are powerless... just somehow for today you have been given the power to defeat it..
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Day 73. Seems last week or so has been the hardest of my quit.. Yesterday I was dangerously close to a cave (I think).. A lady I am currently dong an auction for, my crazy GF I always complain about and also my business/life coach all pitched in yesterday and helped me through a very rough day of mental obsession.. can't really call it a crave after 71 days.. it was more of a mental obsession.. Everybody here that thinks we are steel balled fuckers and we are invincible.. That's actually a joke! We are not.. Put us on an island without each other and others around us to help and love us... then we are pretty much fucked! There is a power much bigger than ourselves that is keeping us from using today! I guess I better speak for myself! There is a power much bigger than me keeping me from using today! This power works through numbers..works through this site.. and works through those closest to me if I let it! Anybody here that does not believe they are powerless when it comes to this addiction.. you are fooling yourself.. if you are a true addict you are powerless... just somehow for today you have been given the power to defeat it..
Feel what you're feeling there Gooch. Been a rough couple days here as well. Maybe it's the barometric pressure, who knows. That bigger thing that keeps us quit is what is called integrity. It is getting up and posting roll first thing in our day. It is being accountable to everyone who saw us post roll. It is looking at the man in the mirror and him being able to look back at you with no regret or timidity. It is what we do when no one is looking. It is divine and instilled in us by our God and our desire to be more like Him. Lean on someone bigger than yourself and you will never fall. Proud to be quit with you today.
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Day 73. Seems last week or so has been the hardest of my quit.. Yesterday I was dangerously close to a cave (I think).. A lady I am currently dong an auction for, my crazy GF I always complain about and also my business/life coach all pitched in yesterday and helped me through a very rough day of mental obsession.. can't really call it a crave after 71 days.. it was more of a mental obsession.. Everybody here that thinks we are steel balled fuckers and we are invincible.. That's actually a joke! We are not.. Put us on an island without each other and others around us to help and love us... then we are pretty much fucked! There is a power much bigger than ourselves that is keeping us from using today! I guess I better speak for myself! There is a power much bigger than me keeping me from using today! This power works through numbers..works through this site.. and works through those closest to me if I let it! Anybody here that does not believe they are powerless when it comes to this addiction.. you are fooling yourself.. if you are a true addict you are powerless... just somehow for today you have been given the power to defeat it..
Feel what you're feeling there Gooch. Been a rough couple days here as well. Maybe it's the barometric pressure, who knows. That bigger thing that keeps us quit is what is called integrity. It is getting up and posting roll first thing in our day. It is being accountable to everyone who saw us post roll. It is looking at the man in the mirror and him being able to look back at you with no regret or timidity. It is what we do when no one is looking. It is divine and instilled in us by our God and our desire to be more like Him. Lean on someone bigger than yourself and you will never fall. Proud to be quit with you today.
Gooch, you absolutely CAN have craves on Day 71 and beyond. In fact, Day 80 was one of my worst crave days other than the first 3 days. Now.....they will subside and get less intense as time goes on. But for the time being you must know that you are by no means out of the woods at Day 71. Thinking that you should be feeling 100% after 2 months of quit just isn't a reality. It takes time to re-wire your brain and 71 days isn't enough time to complete that cycle. Keep fighting, you'll get where you want to be one day at a time.
You touched on something else and that is the "higher power" you spoke of. That, my friend, is the accountability you are feeling. It is very real and very powerful. In fact, I would venture to say that accountability is more important than individual will power as it pertains to a successful quit.
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Day 73. Seems last week or so has been the hardest of my quit.. Yesterday I was dangerously close to a cave (I think).. A lady I am currently dong an auction for, my crazy GF I always complain about and also my business/life coach all pitched in yesterday and helped me through a very rough day of mental obsession.. can't really call it a crave after 71 days.. it was more of a mental obsession.. Everybody here that thinks we are steel balled fuckers and we are invincible.. That's actually a joke! We are not.. Put us on an island without each other and others around us to help and love us... then we are pretty much fucked! There is a power much bigger than ourselves that is keeping us from using today! I guess I better speak for myself! There is a power much bigger than me keeping me from using today! This power works through numbers..works through this site.. and works through those closest to me if I let it! Anybody here that does not believe they are powerless when it comes to this addiction.. you are fooling yourself.. if you are a true addict you are powerless... just somehow for today you have been given the power to defeat it..
Feel what you're feeling there Gooch. Been a rough couple days here as well. Maybe it's the barometric pressure, who knows. That bigger thing that keeps us quit is what is called integrity. It is getting up and posting roll first thing in our day. It is being accountable to everyone who saw us post roll. It is looking at the man in the mirror and him being able to look back at you with no regret or timidity. It is what we do when no one is looking. It is divine and instilled in us by our God and our desire to be more like Him. Lean on someone bigger than yourself and you will never fall. Proud to be quit with you today.
Gooch, you absolutely CAN have craves on Day 71 and beyond. In fact, Day 80 was one of my worst crave days other than the first 3 days. Now.....they will subside and get less intense as time goes on. But for the time being you must know that you are by no means out of the woods at Day 71. Thinking that you should be feeling 100% after 2 months of quit just isn't a reality. It takes time to re-wire your brain and 71 days isn't enough time to complete that cycle. Keep fighting, you'll get where you want to be one day at a time.
You touched on something else and that is the "higher power" you spoke of. That, my friend, is the accountability you are feeling. It is very real and very powerful. In fact, I would venture to say that accountability is more important than individual will power as it pertains to a successful quit.
Gooch I agree with Steve that accountability is still keeping me quit! You've been around long enough now to see what happen when someone thinks they have it licked, they come crawling back with their tail between their legs licking their shriveled balls. Some Days are easier and they do start coming more often but remember how long and how much effort you put into gaining and feeding the addiction! For me that 40 yrs can't be reversed in 100, 150, 365 days I honestly don't know when or if I'll ever feel comfortable going even a day or two alone, I know it isn't now! That's why I always post roll early and also make contact with many of you personally every day I need that accountability and I know you do too!
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Gooch, I've been having some bad moments myself lately - once I hit day 60 or so, I found myself nonchalantly thinking about grabbing a chew. Like you said, you couldn't call it a crave . . . there was nothing physical, no trigger, just a stray thought leading me back to nicotine.
In some ways, it was easier when it was still a struggle. Now, it seems like at times I'm losing focus and have to jolt myself back to quit mode. Right now, I need my quit brothers and KTC more than ever - I need constant reminders that I quit and will stay quit.
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Gooch....you good?
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Gooch
I have had very short intense cravings the last week and I am at 158 days. The key is that now I have the tools and the more importantly the knowledge to handle the situations.
keep doing what you are doing
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... and also my business/life coach all pitched in yesterday and helped me through a very rough day of mental obsession . . .
Where do I get me one of these life coaches, man? I saw one of these on a show my wife watches.
Stay strong bro.
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... and also my business/life coach all pitched in yesterday and helped me through a very rough day of mental obsession . . .
Where do I get me one of these life coaches, man? I saw one of these on a show my wife watches.
Stay strong bro.
Gooch - Chime in MOFO -where you at?
I'll take a DD Life Coach while we're at it!! 'boob' 'boob'
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OK fellas here goes.. I really appreciate all the texts calls.. seriously I have been as far south KY as I can go without being in TN with little phone service.. the reason I did not post this morning was I intended to use Nic in some form today and I did.. I respect you all and the site too much so I will spare you the details.. but it started with nic gum and that only worked for a while today.. I will say this I have not gone full honey badger, but still I have truly caved today...I promise I do not have anything in my mouth as I write this, I do respect you guys more than that. I lost the desire to quit days ago.. and struggled to post everyday for the past week... I knew once I posted I would not use..thats why i didnt post today.. I am sorry guys.. I don't and will not go into grave detail.. I have had a lot of addiction in my life.. Tobacco is the last one.. In the last few days I have honestly struggled with the thoughts of doing other things as well.. and I have posted several times.. if i thought really thought I was going to drink again I would use nic..I truthfully caved days ago in my mind, it just took until today to catch up.. I know the hell that is about to follow this when it hits the thread! Go ahead guys let me have it.. no matter what some of you will think or say.. I am not a failure or a sack of shit or any of the other things that I know is about to follow..and no matter what you guys say I will not believe I am a failure.. I have accomplished much in my life and over came a hell of a lot of addiction! Since quitting dip over 2 month ago.. I am pre-diabetic (all the sugar and candy I have eaten I guess?). I'm 10lbs over weight, even while working out! I have dipped more coffee than I can even say.. my gall bladder is in knots.. I still can't sleep.. and still struggle to focus.. It's no excuse but I have so much work to do and a lot of people are depending on me to get things done.. I have to be me again? I know I will want to quit again.. maybe 2 days.. maybe 2 weeks? maybe 2 months? Will I come back here? Don't know after the terrific beating you guys are about to give me.. In the recovery circles I come from we truly don't kick somebody when they are down.. And if I am truly honest I am not down, so kick away. I actually feel normal again.. The one thing i will do and be is honest.. I respect you guys more than you know.. I really thought I was tough! that's a joke! you guys that keep doing this.. you are tough.. hats off to you all.. Diesel.. Tinman.. Wastepanel..Raider.. Pave.. swede..hell Gordy even wrote my PM today.. WT you are without a doubt one bag ass quitter... Thanks boys... sorry if you feel that I let you all down.. I really hope you all can do it better than me! Signing Off - Gooch
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OK fellas here goes.. I really appreciate all the texts calls.. seriously I have been as far south KY as I can go without being in TN with little phone service.. the reason I did not post this morning was I intended to use Nic in some form today and I did.. I respect you all and the site too much so I will spare you the details.. but it started with nic gum and that only worked for a while today.. I will say this I have not gone full honey badger, but still I have truly caved today...I promise I do not have anything in my mouth as I write this, I do respect you guys more than that. I lost the desire to quit days ago.. and struggled to post everyday for the past week... I knew once I posted I would not use..thats why i didnt post today.. I am sorry guys.. I don't and will not go into grave detail.. I have had a lot of addiction in my life.. Tobacco is the last one.. In the last few days I have honestly struggled with the thoughts of doing other things as well.. and I have posted several times.. if i thought really thought I was going to drink again I would use nic..I truthfully caved days ago in my mind, it just took until today to catch up.. I know the hell that is about to follow this when it hits the thread! Go ahead guys let me have it.. no matter what some of you will think or say.. I am not a failure or a sack of shit or any of the other things that I know is about to follow..and no matter what you guys say I will not believe I am a failure.. I have accomplished much in my life and over came a hell of a lot of addiction! Since quitting dip over 2 month ago.. I am pre-diabetic (all the sugar and candy I have eaten I guess?). I'm 10lbs over weight, even while working out! I have dipped more coffee than I can even say.. my gall bladder is in knots.. I still can't sleep.. and still struggle to focus.. It's no excuse but I have so much work to do and a lot of people are depending on me to get things done.. I have to be me again? I know I will want to quit again.. maybe 2 days.. maybe 2 weeks? maybe 2 months? Will I come back here? Don't know after the terrific beating you guys are about to give me.. In the recovery circles I come from we truly don't kick somebody when they are down.. And if I am truly honest I am not down, so kick away. I actually feel normal again.. The one thing i will do and be is honest.. I respect you guys more than you know.. I really thought I was tough! that's a joke! you guys that keep doing this.. you are tough.. hats off to you all.. Diesel.. Tinman.. Wastepanel..Raider.. Pave.. swede..hell Gordy even wrote my PM today.. WT you are without a doubt one bag ass quitter... Thanks boys... sorry if you feel that I let you all down.. I really hope you all can do it better than me! Signing Off - Gooch
So what the fuck is dip going to do to make it better? 100% guaranteed all those problems get worse by putting that shit in your mouth
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OK fellas here goes.. I really appreciate all the texts calls.. seriously I have been as far south KY as I can go without being in TN with little phone service.. the reason I did not post this morning was I intended to use Nic in some form today and I did.. I respect you all and the site too much so I will spare you the details.. but it started with nic gum and that only worked for a while today.. I will say this I have not gone full honey badger, but still I have truly caved today...I promise I do not have anything in my mouth as I write this, I do respect you guys more than that. I lost the desire to quit days ago.. and struggled to post everyday for the past week... I knew once I posted I would not use..thats why i didnt post today.. I am sorry guys.. I don't and will not go into grave detail.. I have had a lot of addiction in my life.. Tobacco is the last one.. In the last few days I have honestly struggled with the thoughts of doing other things as well.. and I have posted several times.. if i thought really thought I was going to drink again I would use nic..I truthfully caved days ago in my mind, it just took until today to catch up.. I know the hell that is about to follow this when it hits the thread! Go ahead guys let me have it.. no matter what some of you will think or say.. I am not a failure or a sack of shit or any of the other things that I know is about to follow..and no matter what you guys say I will not believe I am a failure.. I have accomplished much in my life and over came a hell of a lot of addiction! Since quitting dip over 2 month ago.. I am pre-diabetic (all the sugar and candy I have eaten I guess?). I'm 10lbs over weight, even while working out! I have dipped more coffee than I can even say.. my gall bladder is in knots.. I still can't sleep.. and still struggle to focus.. It's no excuse but I have so much work to do and a lot of people are depending on me to get things done.. I have to be me again? I know I will want to quit again.. maybe 2 days.. maybe 2 weeks? maybe 2 months? Will I come back here? Don't know after the terrific beating you guys are about to give me.. In the recovery circles I come from we truly don't kick somebody when they are down.. And if I am truly honest I am not down, so kick away. I actually feel normal again.. The one thing i will do and be is honest.. I respect you guys more than you know.. I really thought I was tough! that's a joke! you guys that keep doing this.. you are tough.. hats off to you all.. Diesel.. Tinman.. Wastepanel..Raider.. Pave.. swede..hell Gordy even wrote my PM today.. WT you are without a doubt one bag ass quitter... Thanks boys... sorry if you feel that I let you all down.. I really hope you all can do it better than me! Signing Off - Gooch
I want to reply and am not sure what I feel! Mike has shared with me a lot of very personal shit, confided in me. Even though I do not agree with your decision that is for me. You are still honorable in my mind because I know you wanted to cave other days but didn't only because you had made a promise. As for today, he didn't cave right away. He texted me this morning and shared his troubles and intentions. I know you struggled hard in making this decision and didn't do it in the heat of the moment. When you get your shit together I know you'll be back, I'll be here if it's 2 days, 2 weeks, 2 months or 2 years. I will not judge you the same as I do some other caves it wasn't done in the dark hiding or on a whim without prior thought. I may take shit for saying that but I stick to it! All that being said: caving is a really stupid decision that gives temporary satisfaction (maybe) for circumstances that can be dealt with in much better ways. Everyone reading this learn a lesson. Prepare your selves in advance for all types of circumstances, know your plan well follow through on it and make sure there are no loop holes in it!!
WT
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OK fellas here goes.. I really appreciate all the texts calls.. seriously I have been as far south KY as I can go without being in TN with little phone service.. the reason I did not post this morning was I intended to use Nic in some form today and I did.. I respect you all and the site too much so I will spare you the details.. but it started with nic gum and that only worked for a while today.. I will say this I have not gone full honey badger, but still I have truly caved today...I promise I do not have anything in my mouth as I write this, I do respect you guys more than that.  I lost the desire to quit days ago.. and struggled to post everyday for the past week... I knew once I posted I would not use..thats why i didnt post today.. I am sorry guys.. I don't and will not go into grave detail.. I have had a lot of addiction in my life.. Tobacco is the last one.. In the last few days I have honestly struggled with the thoughts of doing other things as well.. and I have posted several times.. if i thought really thought I was going to drink again I would use nic..I truthfully caved days ago in my mind, it just took until today to catch up.. I know the hell that is about to follow this when it hits the thread! Go ahead guys let me have it.. no matter what some of you will think or say.. I am not a failure or a sack of shit or any of the other things that I know is about to follow..and no matter what you guys say I will not believe I am a failure.. I have accomplished much in my life and over came a hell of a lot of addiction! Since quitting dip over 2 month ago.. I am pre-diabetic (all the sugar and candy I have eaten I guess?). I'm 10lbs over weight, even while working out! I have dipped more coffee than I can even say.. my gall bladder is in knots.. I still can't sleep.. and still struggle to focus.. It's no excuse but I have so much work to do and a lot of people are depending on me to get things done.. I have to be me again? I know I will want to quit again.. maybe 2 days.. maybe 2 weeks? maybe 2 months? Will I come back here? Don't know after the terrific beating you guys are about to give me.. In the recovery circles I come from we truly don't kick somebody when they are down.. And if I am truly honest I am not down, so kick away. I actually feel normal again.. The one thing i will do and be is honest.. I respect you guys more than you know.. I really thought I was tough! that's a joke! you guys that keep doing this.. you are tough.. hats off to you all.. Diesel.. Tinman.. Wastepanel..Raider.. Pave.. swede..hell Gordy even wrote my PM today.. WT you are without a doubt one bag ass quitter... Thanks boys... sorry if you feel that I let you all down.. I really hope you all can do it better than me! Signing Off - Gooch
I want to reply and am not sure what I feel! Mike has shared with me a lot of very personal shit, confided in me. Even though I do not agree with your decision that is for me. You are still honorable in my mind because I know you wanted to cave other days but didn't only because you had made a promise. As for today, he didn't cave right away. He texted me this morning and shared his troubles and intentions. I know you struggled hard in making this decision and didn't do it in the heat of the moment. When you get your shit together I know you'll be back, I'll be here if it's 2 days, 2 weeks, 2 months or 2 years. I will not judge you the same as I do some other caves it wasn't done in the dark hiding or on a whim without prior thought. I may take shit for saying that but I stick to it! All that being said: caving is a really stupid decision that gives temporary satisfaction (maybe) for circumstances that can be dealt with in much better ways. Everyone reading this learn a lesson. Prepare your selves in advance for all types of circumstances, know your plan well follow through on it and make sure there are no loop holes in it!!
WT
I can't imagine giving in like this. Short of some Big Tobacco CEO kidnapping my wife, I can't fathom any reason to go back. Announcing your intentions and then ignoring countless people during the day? You can come back any time but based on your actions today, I don't think you'll quit then either.
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I have so much work to do and a lot of people are depending on me to get things done..
And chewing again is going to help how exactly????? It's going to be real hard to get things done while doing your chemo treatments.
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OK fellas here goes.. I really appreciate all the texts calls.. seriously I have been as far south KY as I can go without being in TN with little phone service.. the reason I did not post this morning was I intended to use Nic in some form today and I did.. I respect you all and the site too much so I will spare you the details.. but it started with nic gum and that only worked for a while today.. I will say this I have not gone full honey badger, but still I have truly caved today...I promise I do not have anything in my mouth as I write this, I do respect you guys more than that.  I lost the desire to quit days ago.. and struggled to post everyday for the past week... I knew once I posted I would not use..thats why i didnt post today.. I am sorry guys.. I don't and will not go into grave detail.. I have had a lot of addiction in my life.. Tobacco is the last one.. In the last few days I have honestly struggled with the thoughts of doing other things as well.. and I have posted several times.. if i thought really thought I was going to drink again I would use nic..I truthfully caved days ago in my mind, it just took until today to catch up.. I know the hell that is about to follow this when it hits the thread! Go ahead guys let me have it.. no matter what some of you will think or say.. I am not a failure or a sack of shit or any of the other things that I know is about to follow..and no matter what you guys say I will not believe I am a failure.. I have accomplished much in my life and over came a hell of a lot of addiction! Since quitting dip over 2 month ago.. I am pre-diabetic (all the sugar and candy I have eaten I guess?). I'm 10lbs over weight, even while working out! I have dipped more coffee than I can even say.. my gall bladder is in knots.. I still can't sleep.. and still struggle to focus.. It's no excuse but I have so much work to do and a lot of people are depending on me to get things done.. I have to be me again? I know I will want to quit again.. maybe 2 days.. maybe 2 weeks? maybe 2 months? Will I come back here? Don't know after the terrific beating you guys are about to give me.. In the recovery circles I come from we truly don't kick somebody when they are down.. And if I am truly honest I am not down, so kick away. I actually feel normal again.. The one thing i will do and be is honest.. I respect you guys more than you know.. I really thought I was tough! that's a joke! you guys that keep doing this.. you are tough.. hats off to you all.. Diesel.. Tinman.. Wastepanel..Raider.. Pave.. swede..hell Gordy even wrote my PM today.. WT you are without a doubt one bag ass quitter... Thanks boys... sorry if you feel that I let you all down.. I really hope you all can do it better than me! Signing Off - Gooch
I want to reply and am not sure what I feel! Mike has shared with me a lot of very personal shit, confided in me. Even though I do not agree with your decision that is for me. You are still honorable in my mind because I know you wanted to cave other days but didn't only because you had made a promise. As for today, he didn't cave right away. He texted me this morning and shared his troubles and intentions. I know you struggled hard in making this decision and didn't do it in the heat of the moment. When you get your shit together I know you'll be back, I'll be here if it's 2 days, 2 weeks, 2 months or 2 years. I will not judge you the same as I do some other caves it wasn't done in the dark hiding or on a whim without prior thought. I may take shit for saying that but I stick to it! All that being said: caving is a really stupid decision that gives temporary satisfaction (maybe) for circumstances that can be dealt with in much better ways. Everyone reading this learn a lesson. Prepare your selves in advance for all types of circumstances, know your plan well follow through on it and make sure there are no loop holes in it!!
WT
I can't imagine giving in like this. Short of some Big Tobacco CEO kidnapping my wife, I can't fathom any reason to go back. Announcing your intentions and then ignoring countless people during the day? You can come back any time but based on your actions today, I don't think you'll quit then either.
Wow, I guess I dont know what to say to this either.....very dissapointed man.
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OK fellas here goes.. I really appreciate all the texts calls.. seriously I have been as far south KY as I can go without being in TN with little phone service.. the reason I did not post this morning was I intended to use Nic in some form today and I did.. I respect you all and the site too much so I will spare you the details.. but it started with nic gum and that only worked for a while today.. I will say this I have not gone full honey badger, but still I have truly caved today...I promise I do not have anything in my mouth as I write this, I do respect you guys more than that.  I lost the desire to quit days ago.. and struggled to post everyday for the past week... I knew once I posted I would not use..thats why i didnt post today.. I am sorry guys.. I don't and will not go into grave detail.. I have had a lot of addiction in my life.. Tobacco is the last one.. In the last few days I have honestly struggled with the thoughts of doing other things as well.. and I have posted several times.. if i thought really thought I was going to drink again I would use nic..I truthfully caved days ago in my mind, it just took until today to catch up.. I know the hell that is about to follow this when it hits the thread! Go ahead guys let me have it.. no matter what some of you will think or say.. I am not a failure or a sack of shit or any of the other things that I know is about to follow..and no matter what you guys say I will not believe I am a failure.. I have accomplished much in my life and over came a hell of a lot of addiction! Since quitting dip over 2 month ago.. I am pre-diabetic (all the sugar and candy I have eaten I guess?). I'm 10lbs over weight, even while working out! I have dipped more coffee than I can even say.. my gall bladder is in knots.. I still can't sleep.. and still struggle to focus.. It's no excuse but I have so much work to do and a lot of people are depending on me to get things done.. I have to be me again? I know I will want to quit again.. maybe 2 days.. maybe 2 weeks? maybe 2 months? Will I come back here? Don't know after the terrific beating you guys are about to give me.. In the recovery circles I come from we truly don't kick somebody when they are down.. And if I am truly honest I am not down, so kick away. I actually feel normal again.. The one thing i will do and be is honest.. I respect you guys more than you know.. I really thought I was tough! that's a joke! you guys that keep doing this.. you are tough.. hats off to you all.. Diesel.. Tinman.. Wastepanel..Raider.. Pave.. swede..hell Gordy even wrote my PM today.. WT you are without a doubt one bag ass quitter... Thanks boys... sorry if you feel that I let you all down.. I really hope you all can do it better than me! Signing Off - Gooch
I want to reply and am not sure what I feel! Mike has shared with me a lot of very personal shit, confided in me. Even though I do not agree with your decision that is for me. You are still honorable in my mind because I know you wanted to cave other days but didn't only because you had made a promise. As for today, he didn't cave right away. He texted me this morning and shared his troubles and intentions. I know you struggled hard in making this decision and didn't do it in the heat of the moment. When you get your shit together I know you'll be back, I'll be here if it's 2 days, 2 weeks, 2 months or 2 years. I will not judge you the same as I do some other caves it wasn't done in the dark hiding or on a whim without prior thought. I may take shit for saying that but I stick to it! All that being said: caving is a really stupid decision that gives temporary satisfaction (maybe) for circumstances that can be dealt with in much better ways. Everyone reading this learn a lesson. Prepare your selves in advance for all types of circumstances, know your plan well follow through on it and make sure there are no loop holes in it!!
WT
I can't imagine giving in like this. Short of some Big Tobacco CEO kidnapping my wife, I can't fathom any reason to go back. Announcing your intentions and then ignoring countless people during the day? You can come back any time but based on your actions today, I don't think you'll quit then either.
Number 1, very ingenious to post this on the intro thread. That way you can ninja read all These words we will throw at you without having to log in. Very ingenious. Very cowardly as well.
Secondly, you aren't sorry. Why are you apologizing for a decision you chose to make? Are you sorry you made the decision? Are you sorry you failed in your past decision? I'm really kind of confused where "sorry" comes into play here.
Finally, you've had 5 gum grafts. Welcome back to that normal. I'm glad that normal is what you crave. I like my gums. I like my life. I feel normal.
It's easy to quit when you want to quit. It's when times are tough and our adreneline is low that we struggle. It's these times we lean on what we've learned. Nicotine does not make you a better employer, worker, smarter, or a better dad, husband, or coach. It doesn't alleviate the stress in your life. It lets you escape in euphoria for a brief moment while it kills a small part inside you. It then plants itself firmly in your life, and its presence becomes "necessary".
I'm very disappointed. Very.
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I hope you enjoy your sixth gum graft. Fer fuck's sake........
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Tell yourself whatever you wish. Voluntarily walking back into slavery when there are so many other choices is simply foolish.
You will never convince me you did the right thing.
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Well gooch.. I would say maybe we'll see you around, but you might be dead before long. good luck with that....
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Well gooch.. I would say maybe we'll see you around, but you might be dead before long. good luck with that....
what a fuckin shame.. i'm seriously sick to my stomach.. I thought he'd be the one to make it for sure...
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Well gooch.. I would say maybe we'll see you around, but you might be dead before long. good luck with that....
what a fuckin shame.. i'm seriously sick to my stomach.. I thought he'd be the one to make it for sure...
Kana, you best keep a close eye on yourself. "I thought he'd be the one to make it for sure..." concerns me.
Let me correct your thinking.
If there's ONE who will make it, that would be YOU.
Don't worry about FuckGooch. He's a dime-a-dozen, just look around.
Hell, look in Sept '11, we had a caver today with well over 400 days. Why? Same old story. Lost the desire to stay vigilant and a short time later he lost his quit.
Shut the door, Kana, and don't let people like GooeyPussy open it.
Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom. Never forget it!
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Well gooch.. I would say maybe we'll see you around, but you might be dead before long. good luck with that....
what a fuckin shame.. i'm seriously sick to my stomach.. I thought he'd be the one to make it for sure...
Kana, you best keep a close eye on yourself. "I thought he'd be the one to make it for sure..." concerns me.
Let me correct your thinking.
If there's ONE who will make it, that would be YOU.
Don't worry about FuckGooch. He's a dime-a-dozen, just look around.
Hell, look in Sept '11, we had a caver today with well over 400 days. Why? Same old story. Lost the desire to stay vigilant and a short time later he lost his quit.
Shut the door, Kana, and don't let people like GooeyPussy open it.
Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom. Never forget it!
This is the first cave I've seen.. I guess you're right there will be many.. just hard to watch..
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Well gooch.. I would say maybe we'll see you around, but you might be dead before long. good luck with that....
what a fuckin shame.. i'm seriously sick to my stomach.. I thought he'd be the one to make it for sure...
Kana, you best keep a close eye on yourself. "I thought he'd be the one to make it for sure..." concerns me.
Let me correct your thinking.
If there's ONE who will make it, that would be YOU.
Don't worry about FuckGooch. He's a dime-a-dozen, just look around.
Hell, look in Sept '11, we had a caver today with well over 400 days. Why? Same old story. Lost the desire to stay vigilant and a short time later he lost his quit.
Shut the door, Kana, and don't let people like GooeyPussy open it.
Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom. Never forget it!
I'm so pissed at tabacco today! Follow me and strengthen your resolve! My quit has been solid and my determination fricking 110% but this victory of the bitch has doubled my resolve and determination! Any new quitters or others that haven't solidified your plan of action if faced with a serious crave, get off your ass and get #'s of contacts, let them know your plan and their role in it and know how you are going to face temptation when it hits because it's not a matter of if it hits; damn it, it will!
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OK fellas here goes.. I really appreciate all the texts calls.. seriously I have been as far south KY as I can go without being in TN with little phone service.. the reason I did not post this morning was I intended to use Nic in some form today and I did.. I respect you all and the site too much so I will spare you the details.. but it started with nic gum and that only worked for a while today.. I will say this I have not gone full honey badger, but still I have truly caved today...I promise I do not have anything in my mouth as I write this, I do respect you guys more than that.  I lost the desire to quit days ago.. and struggled to post everyday for the past week... I knew once I posted I would not use..thats why i didnt post today.. I am sorry guys.. I don't and will not go into grave detail.. I have had a lot of addiction in my life.. Tobacco is the last one.. In the last few days I have honestly struggled with the thoughts of doing other things as well.. and I have posted several times.. if i thought really thought I was going to drink again I would use nic..I truthfully caved days ago in my mind, it just took until today to catch up.. I know the hell that is about to follow this when it hits the thread! Go ahead guys let me have it.. no matter what some of you will think or say.. I am not a failure or a sack of shit or any of the other things that I know is about to follow..and no matter what you guys say I will not believe I am a failure.. I have accomplished much in my life and over came a hell of a lot of addiction! Since quitting dip over 2 month ago.. I am pre-diabetic (all the sugar and candy I have eaten I guess?). I'm 10lbs over weight, even while working out! I have dipped more coffee than I can even say.. my gall bladder is in knots.. I still can't sleep.. and still struggle to focus.. It's no excuse but I have so much work to do and a lot of people are depending on me to get things done.. I have to be me again? I know I will want to quit again.. maybe 2 days.. maybe 2 weeks? maybe 2 months? Will I come back here? Don't know after the terrific beating you guys are about to give me.. In the recovery circles I come from we truly don't kick somebody when they are down.. And if I am truly honest I am not down, so kick away. I actually feel normal again.. The one thing i will do and be is honest.. I respect you guys more than you know.. I really thought I was tough! that's a joke! you guys that keep doing this.. you are tough.. hats off to you all.. Diesel.. Tinman.. Wastepanel..Raider.. Pave.. swede..hell Gordy even wrote my PM today.. WT you are without a doubt one bag ass quitter... Thanks boys... sorry if you feel that I let you all down.. I really hope you all can do it better than me! Signing Off - Gooch
I want to reply and am not sure what I feel! Mike has shared with me a lot of very personal shit, confided in me. Even though I do not agree with your decision that is for me. You are still honorable in my mind because I know you wanted to cave other days but didn't only because you had made a promise. As for today, he didn't cave right away. He texted me this morning and shared his troubles and intentions. I know you struggled hard in making this decision and didn't do it in the heat of the moment. When you get your shit together I know you'll be back, I'll be here if it's 2 days, 2 weeks, 2 months or 2 years. I will not judge you the same as I do some other caves it wasn't done in the dark hiding or on a whim without prior thought. I may take shit for saying that but I stick to it! All that being said: caving is a really stupid decision that gives temporary satisfaction (maybe) for circumstances that can be dealt with in much better ways. Everyone reading this learn a lesson. Prepare your selves in advance for all types of circumstances, know your plan well follow through on it and make sure there are no loop holes in it!!
WT
I can't imagine giving in like this. Short of some Big Tobacco CEO kidnapping my wife, I can't fathom any reason to go back. Announcing your intentions and then ignoring countless people during the day? You can come back any time but based on your actions today, I don't think you'll quit then either.
Number 1, very ingenious to post this on the intro thread. That way you can ninja read all These words we will throw at you without having to log in. Very ingenious. Very cowardly as well.
Secondly, you aren't sorry. Why are you apologizing for a decision you chose to make? Are you sorry you made the decision? Are you sorry you failed in your past decision? I'm really kind of confused where "sorry" comes into play here.
Finally, you've had 5 gum grafts. Welcome back to that normal. I'm glad that normal is what you crave. I like my gums. I like my life. I feel normal.
It's easy to quit when you want to quit. It's when times are tough and our adreneline is low that we struggle. It's these times we lean on what we've learned. Nicotine does not make you a better employer, worker, smarter, or a better dad, husband, or coach. It doesn't alleviate the stress in your life. It lets you escape in euphoria for a brief moment while it kills a small part inside you. It then plants itself firmly in your life, and its presence becomes "necessary".
I'm very disappointed. Very.
Take a look back through your intro page, look at all those around you, supporting your effort in quitting. Time after time of posting, support was there. Venting, and support was there. Craving, and support was there. Depression, and support was there. Was this all a facade? Fuck no, it wasn't! I'm with the others here and just don't understand what could be so fucking intense that you decided to jump. Don't give us the whole BS story about other support groups and how they don't kick when you're down. You know damn well what you signed up for when you created your user ID. I'm kicking and I'm fucking hot about it. You let some thought in your mind turn you into a failing addict. For shits sake, we are all addicts, we just choose to win on a daily basis. This premeditated, deliberate no posting roll is probably the most disheartening. You've thought about caving for a while. Knowing that, and with the other support groups you've been involved in, did you once think about seeking some professional help to counsel you through this funk? Did you truly give everything you had to give? Did you honestly want to keep your life on track? If you had, you would still be posting roll, not a poor fucking excuse of an apology. Don't patronize us with your psedo-psychological praises about how strong we are. We are all addicts. Addicts have weaknesses. We just choose to use each other to prop us up. Doesn't matter if its minutes, hours, days, weeks, or months that we need propped up. That is why the anger and rage against a caver is as strong as it is Gooch, we all have been there and gotten through those moments to the other side because of each other. You totally and completely disappoint me, unacceptable.
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OK fellas here goes.. I really appreciate all the texts calls.. seriously I have been as far south KY as I can go without being in TN with little phone service.. the reason I did not post this morning was I intended to use Nic in some form today and I did.. I respect you all and the site too much so I will spare you the details.. but it started with nic gum and that only worked for a while today.. I will say this I have not gone full honey badger, but still I have truly caved today...I promise I do not have anything in my mouth as I write this, I do respect you guys more than that.  I lost the desire to quit days ago.. and struggled to post everyday for the past week... I knew once I posted I would not use..thats why i didnt post today.. I am sorry guys.. I don't and will not go into grave detail.. I have had a lot of addiction in my life.. Tobacco is the last one.. In the last few days I have honestly struggled with the thoughts of doing other things as well.. and I have posted several times.. if i thought really thought I was going to drink again I would use nic..I truthfully caved days ago in my mind, it just took until today to catch up.. I know the hell that is about to follow this when it hits the thread! Go ahead guys let me have it.. no matter what some of you will think or say.. I am not a failure or a sack of shit or any of the other things that I know is about to follow..and no matter what you guys say I will not believe I am a failure.. I have accomplished much in my life and over came a hell of a lot of addiction! Since quitting dip over 2 month ago.. I am pre-diabetic (all the sugar and candy I have eaten I guess?). I'm 10lbs over weight, even while working out! I have dipped more coffee than I can even say.. my gall bladder is in knots.. I still can't sleep.. and still struggle to focus.. It's no excuse but I have so much work to do and a lot of people are depending on me to get things done.. I have to be me again? I know I will want to quit again.. maybe 2 days.. maybe 2 weeks? maybe 2 months? Will I come back here? Don't know after the terrific beating you guys are about to give me.. In the recovery circles I come from we truly don't kick somebody when they are down.. And if I am truly honest I am not down, so kick away. I actually feel normal again.. The one thing i will do and be is honest.. I respect you guys more than you know.. I really thought I was tough! that's a joke! you guys that keep doing this.. you are tough.. hats off to you all.. Diesel.. Tinman.. Wastepanel..Raider.. Pave.. swede..hell Gordy even wrote my PM today.. WT you are without a doubt one bag ass quitter... Thanks boys... sorry if you feel that I let you all down.. I really hope you all can do it better than me! Signing Off - Gooch
I want to reply and am not sure what I feel! Mike has shared with me a lot of very personal shit, confided in me. Even though I do not agree with your decision that is for me. You are still honorable in my mind because I know you wanted to cave other days but didn't only because you had made a promise. As for today, he didn't cave right away. He texted me this morning and shared his troubles and intentions. I know you struggled hard in making this decision and didn't do it in the heat of the moment. When you get your shit together I know you'll be back, I'll be here if it's 2 days, 2 weeks, 2 months or 2 years. I will not judge you the same as I do some other caves it wasn't done in the dark hiding or on a whim without prior thought. I may take shit for saying that but I stick to it! All that being said: caving is a really stupid decision that gives temporary satisfaction (maybe) for circumstances that can be dealt with in much better ways. Everyone reading this learn a lesson. Prepare your selves in advance for all types of circumstances, know your plan well follow through on it and make sure there are no loop holes in it!!
WT
I can't imagine giving in like this. Short of some Big Tobacco CEO kidnapping my wife, I can't fathom any reason to go back. Announcing your intentions and then ignoring countless people during the day? You can come back any time but based on your actions today, I don't think you'll quit then either.
Number 1, very ingenious to post this on the intro thread. That way you can ninja read all These words we will throw at you without having to log in. Very ingenious. Very cowardly as well.
Secondly, you aren't sorry. Why are you apologizing for a decision you chose to make? Are you sorry you made the decision? Are you sorry you failed in your past decision? I'm really kind of confused where "sorry" comes into play here.
Finally, you've had 5 gum grafts. Welcome back to that normal. I'm glad that normal is what you crave. I like my gums. I like my life. I feel normal.
It's easy to quit when you want to quit. It's when times are tough and our adreneline is low that we struggle. It's these times we lean on what we've learned. Nicotine does not make you a better employer, worker, smarter, or a better dad, husband, or coach. It doesn't alleviate the stress in your life. It lets you escape in euphoria for a brief moment while it kills a small part inside you. It then plants itself firmly in your life, and its presence becomes "necessary".
I'm very disappointed. Very.
Take a look back through your intro page, look at all those around you, supporting your effort in quitting. Time after time of posting, support was there. Venting, and support was there. Craving, and support was there. Depression, and support was there. Was this all a facade? Fuck no, it wasn't! I'm with the others here and just don't understand what could be so fucking intense that you decided to jump. Don't give us the whole BS story about other support groups and how they don't kick when you're down. You know damn well what you signed up for when you created your user ID. I'm kicking and I'm fucking hot about it. You let some thought in your mind turn you into a failing addict. For shits sake, we are all addicts, we just choose to win on a daily basis. This premeditated, deliberate no posting roll is probably the most disheartening. You've thought about caving for a while. Knowing that, and with the other support groups you've been involved in, did you once think about seeking some professional help to counsel you through this funk? Did you truly give everything you had to give? Did you honestly want to keep your life on track? If you had, you would still be posting roll, not a poor fucking excuse of an apology. Don't patronize us with your psedo-psychological praises about how strong we are. We are all addicts. Addicts have weaknesses. We just choose to use each other to prop us up. Doesn't matter if its minutes, hours, days, weeks, or months that we need propped up. That is why the anger and rage against a caver is as strong as it is Gooch, we all have been there and gotten through those moments to the other side because of each other. You totally and completely disappoint me, unacceptable.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the "other support groups" for things such as alcohol and illicit drug addictions consider nicotine to be a "non-mind altering" substance? Therefore, these other support groups do not emphasize or require that you also quit nicotine?
If that is indeed the case then why is it such a surprise that OUR support group operates a little bit differently than those for alcohol and illicit drugs? If we fundamentally disagree over the effect of nicotine on the human brain then wouldn't it be a given that our method is going to differ?
I'm just sick of hearing about "other support groups" and how they're so much better than KTC. If that is your opinion, then please, by all means, go to your other groups and let them help you quit nicotine. My guess is that they would almost certainly be willing to help you, but they may not be as qualified as those of us on KTC.
The rest of your explanation is just addict speak. Although I will say your sporadic behavior during your short time here and rather whiny approach to OUR methods makes your planned cave less of a surprise for this quitter.
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OK fellas here goes.. I really appreciate all the texts calls.. seriously I have been as far south KY as I can go without being in TN with little phone service.. the reason I did not post this morning was I intended to use Nic in some form today and I did.. I respect you all and the site too much so I will spare you the details.. but it started with nic gum and that only worked for a while today.. I will say this I have not gone full honey badger, but still I have truly caved today...I promise I do not have anything in my mouth as I write this, I do respect you guys more than that.  I lost the desire to quit days ago.. and struggled to post everyday for the past week... I knew once I posted I would not use..thats why i didnt post today.. I am sorry guys.. I don't and will not go into grave detail.. I have had a lot of addiction in my life.. Tobacco is the last one.. In the last few days I have honestly struggled with the thoughts of doing other things as well.. and I have posted several times.. if i thought really thought I was going to drink again I would use nic..I truthfully caved days ago in my mind, it just took until today to catch up.. I know the hell that is about to follow this when it hits the thread! Go ahead guys let me have it.. no matter what some of you will think or say.. I am not a failure or a sack of shit or any of the other things that I know is about to follow..and no matter what you guys say I will not believe I am a failure.. I have accomplished much in my life and over came a hell of a lot of addiction! Since quitting dip over 2 month ago.. I am pre-diabetic (all the sugar and candy I have eaten I guess?). I'm 10lbs over weight, even while working out! I have dipped more coffee than I can even say.. my gall bladder is in knots.. I still can't sleep.. and still struggle to focus.. It's no excuse but I have so much work to do and a lot of people are depending on me to get things done.. I have to be me again? I know I will want to quit again.. maybe 2 days.. maybe 2 weeks? maybe 2 months? Will I come back here? Don't know after the terrific beating you guys are about to give me.. In the recovery circles I come from we truly don't kick somebody when they are down.. And if I am truly honest I am not down, so kick away. I actually feel normal again.. The one thing i will do and be is honest.. I respect you guys more than you know.. I really thought I was tough! that's a joke! you guys that keep doing this.. you are tough.. hats off to you all.. Diesel.. Tinman.. Wastepanel..Raider.. Pave.. swede..hell Gordy even wrote my PM today.. WT you are without a doubt one bag ass quitter... Thanks boys... sorry if you feel that I let you all down.. I really hope you all can do it better than me! Signing Off - Gooch
I want to reply and am not sure what I feel! Mike has shared with me a lot of very personal shit, confided in me. Even though I do not agree with your decision that is for me. You are still honorable in my mind because I know you wanted to cave other days but didn't only because you had made a promise. As for today, he didn't cave right away. He texted me this morning and shared his troubles and intentions. I know you struggled hard in making this decision and didn't do it in the heat of the moment. When you get your shit together I know you'll be back, I'll be here if it's 2 days, 2 weeks, 2 months or 2 years. I will not judge you the same as I do some other caves it wasn't done in the dark hiding or on a whim without prior thought. I may take shit for saying that but I stick to it! All that being said: caving is a really stupid decision that gives temporary satisfaction (maybe) for circumstances that can be dealt with in much better ways. Everyone reading this learn a lesson. Prepare your selves in advance for all types of circumstances, know your plan well follow through on it and make sure there are no loop holes in it!!
WT
I can't imagine giving in like this. Short of some Big Tobacco CEO kidnapping my wife, I can't fathom any reason to go back. Announcing your intentions and then ignoring countless people during the day? You can come back any time but based on your actions today, I don't think you'll quit then either.
Number 1, very ingenious to post this on the intro thread. That way you can ninja read all These words we will throw at you without having to log in. Very ingenious. Very cowardly as well.
Secondly, you aren't sorry. Why are you apologizing for a decision you chose to make? Are you sorry you made the decision? Are you sorry you failed in your past decision? I'm really kind of confused where "sorry" comes into play here.
Finally, you've had 5 gum grafts. Welcome back to that normal. I'm glad that normal is what you crave. I like my gums. I like my life. I feel normal.
It's easy to quit when you want to quit. It's when times are tough and our adreneline is low that we struggle. It's these times we lean on what we've learned. Nicotine does not make you a better employer, worker, smarter, or a better dad, husband, or coach. It doesn't alleviate the stress in your life. It lets you escape in euphoria for a brief moment while it kills a small part inside you. It then plants itself firmly in your life, and its presence becomes "necessary".
I'm very disappointed. Very.
Take a look back through your intro page, look at all those around you, supporting your effort in quitting. Time after time of posting, support was there. Venting, and support was there. Craving, and support was there. Depression, and support was there. Was this all a facade? Fuck no, it wasn't! I'm with the others here and just don't understand what could be so fucking intense that you decided to jump. Don't give us the whole BS story about other support groups and how they don't kick when you're down. You know damn well what you signed up for when you created your user ID. I'm kicking and I'm fucking hot about it. You let some thought in your mind turn you into a failing addict. For shits sake, we are all addicts, we just choose to win on a daily basis. This premeditated, deliberate no posting roll is probably the most disheartening. You've thought about caving for a while. Knowing that, and with the other support groups you've been involved in, did you once think about seeking some professional help to counsel you through this funk? Did you truly give everything you had to give? Did you honestly want to keep your life on track? If you had, you would still be posting roll, not a poor fucking excuse of an apology. Don't patronize us with your psedo-psychological praises about how strong we are. We are all addicts. Addicts have weaknesses. We just choose to use each other to prop us up. Doesn't matter if its minutes, hours, days, weeks, or months that we need propped up. That is why the anger and rage against a caver is as strong as it is Gooch, we all have been there and gotten through those moments to the other side because of each other. You totally and completely disappoint me, unacceptable.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but don't the "other support groups" for things such as alcohol and illicit drug addictions consider nicotine to be a "non-mind altering" substance? Therefore, these other support groups do not emphasize or require that you also quit nicotine?
If that is indeed the case then why is it such a surprise that OUR support group operates a little bit differently than those for alcohol and illicit drugs? If we fundamentally disagree over the effect of nicotine on the human brain then wouldn't it be a given that our method is going to differ?
I'm just sick of hearing about "other support groups" and how they're so much better than KTC. If that is your opinion, then please, by all means, go to your other groups and let them help you quit nicotine. My guess is that they would almost certainly be willing to help you, but they may not be as qualified as those of us on KTC.
The rest of your explanation is just addict speak. Although I will say your sporadic behavior during your short time here and rather whiny approach to OUR methods makes your planned cave less of a surprise for this quitter.
I agree Coach - Gooch just needs to nut-up and jump off the pity wagon. Maybe some day he'll really be ready to do this. Hope it's not too late when he does.
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Damn, I can't believe after 70 something days or whatever it was you thought you needed nicotine. That shit was long gone out of your system. And you still put that crap in your mouth after texting and talking with people? Just sad and weak.
Hell, I'm on day 154 and still get craves, I'm sure there are gentlemen here with many more nic free days under their belts that still get them.
New quitters learn from this. Especially going into the 70s. I experienced some of my worst craves from the late 60s until almost the 120s. I chewed a crapton of smokey mountain during that time, but it got me through.
I'm finally feeling normal again with hardly any craves at all, but just be warned, it comes in waves and it can suck. Don't stray, post roll and reach out if you need to.
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I've burnt the ship today fellas... if you don't know that story say so and I'll post it.. Has to do with Napolean and a bunch of soldiers and them fighting their ass off to live.. O hell. I'll tell you now.. Nappy.. pulled his army up to an island.. unload the troops.. then he set the ship on fire..burnt it to a crisp right into the ocean! He told his boys they were outnumbered 4 to 1.. and the only way off the island was to fight their way off the island! Have you burnt your ship girls?? I told every body I knew today that I have quit dipping for good ( and meant it).. Some of them has seen this over and over over... Not this time! I AM QUIT!! I love me some quittys! Gooch
I remember reading this post when I was chewing the skin off my knuckles,in fact I read it just about everyday,what about you Gooch? Read it again and really burn it.
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Damn, I can't believe after 70 something days or whatever it was you thought you needed nicotine. That shit was long gone out of your system. And you still put that crap in your mouth after texting and talking with people? Just sad and weak.
Hell, I'm on day 154 and still get craves, I'm sure there are gentlemen here with many more nic free days under their belts that still get them.
New quitters learn from this. Especially going into the 70s. I experienced some of my worst craves from the late 60s until almost the 120s. I chewed a crapton of smokey mountain during that time, but it got me through.
I'm finally feeling normal again with hardly any craves at all, but just be warned, it comes in waves and it can suck. Don't stray, post roll and reach out if you need to.
Kubrick.....I don't think that he fully utilized his resources before being a dumbass. I seem to remember reading that he was not responding to phone calls or texts. I also don't seem to remember anyone receiving a call from him before he decided to resume poisoning himself.
Am I wrong?
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Damn, I can't believe after 70 something days or whatever it was you thought you needed nicotine. That shit was long gone out of your system. And you still put that crap in your mouth after texting and talking with people? Just sad and weak.
Hell, I'm on day 154 and still get craves, I'm sure there are gentlemen here with many more nic free days under their belts that still get them.
New quitters learn from this. Especially going into the 70s. I experienced some of my worst craves from the late 60s until almost the 120s. I chewed a crapton of smokey mountain during that time, but it got me through.
I'm finally feeling normal again with hardly any craves at all, but just be warned, it comes in waves and it can suck. Don't stray, post roll and reach out if you need to.
Kubrick.....I don't think that he fully utilized his resources before being a dumbass. I seem to remember reading that he was not responding to phone calls or texts. I also don't seem to remember anyone receiving a call from him before he decided to resume poisoning himself.
Am I wrong?
Yea your wrong! Mike and I were in contact for about 4 days about what was going on in his life. I didn't agree with his cave but he did reach out and struggled! I tried to help he listened but ultimately he made the decision! Don't ask I won't share what he was going through but I will say most of us would struggle even thoughs of us that have rock solid quits!
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Damn, I can't believe after 70 something days or whatever it was you thought you needed nicotine. That shit was long gone out of your system. And you still put that crap in your mouth after texting and talking with people? Just sad and weak.
Hell, I'm on day 154 and still get craves, I'm sure there are gentlemen here with many more nic free days under their belts that still get them.
New quitters learn from this. Especially going into the 70s. I experienced some of my worst craves from the late 60s until almost the 120s. I chewed a crapton of smokey mountain during that time, but it got me through.
I'm finally feeling normal again with hardly any craves at all, but just be warned, it comes in waves and it can suck. Don't stray, post roll and reach out if you need to.
Kubrick.....I don't think that he fully utilized his resources before being a dumbass. I seem to remember reading that he was not responding to phone calls or texts. I also don't seem to remember anyone receiving a call from him before he decided to resume poisoning himself.
Am I wrong?
Yea your wrong!
Did he only talk to you Wt? Did he ask your permission to cave? That is part of a quit plan my friend....you have to work your way down a list and get one of your bros' permission to cave.
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Damn, I can't believe after 70 something days or whatever it was you thought you needed nicotine. That shit was long gone out of your system. And you still put that crap in your mouth after texting and talking with people? Just sad and weak.
Hell, I'm on day 154 and still get craves, I'm sure there are gentlemen here with many more nic free days under their belts that still get them.
New quitters learn from this. Especially going into the 70s. I experienced some of my worst craves from the late 60s until almost the 120s. I chewed a crapton of smokey mountain during that time, but it got me through.
I'm finally feeling normal again with hardly any craves at all, but just be warned, it comes in waves and it can suck. Don't stray, post roll and reach out if you need to.
Kubrick.....I don't think that he fully utilized his resources before being a dumbass. I seem to remember reading that he was not responding to phone calls or texts. I also don't seem to remember anyone receiving a call from him before he decided to resume poisoning himself.
Am I wrong?
Yea your wrong!
Did he only talk to you Wt? Did he ask your permission to cave? That is part of a quit plan my friend....you have to work your way down a list and get one of your bros' permission to cave.
For those that are new...Say around the 30's to 40's. You have experienced being foggy and funky.
Right about at 70's days quit, you have a pre HOF funk. It is a funk that can get you irritated with all things KTC. You may feel warn and spent in quit strength.
Very, Very important to post roll and only worry about the day. If you can survive a pre HOF funk for roughly two weeks, you will feel better than you ever have on that cat shit we all humped before we quit.
Survive and advance. A funk is just like a slump in baseball. You just keep swinging, don't over analyze and focus on the basics.
If gooch would have posted roll. One to two days tops of a battle and he would have been telling us how great he feels to be quit.
I am 164 days. It wasn't easy every day but I stayed quit. Posted roll 100%. Not intentionally braging but its a fucking fact. With KTC and my quit brotherhood. I am undefeated with the nic bitch.
I'm not here to bust Gooch's balls. I am here to tell you that some will cave but it doesn't have to be you.
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I've been pretty pissed about your cave and how it reflects on our group and those that looked up to you, joined because of you and depended on you. So I've been bouncing around the site just looking for answers to questions I'm not even sure how to ask and I came across this...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc ... BTGc#gid=2 (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AtwlILAmna5hdHpnRE4tT1YxQVBkNHdNaUJ5WlpBTGc#gid=2)
In Sept '11 they had another guy named Gooch with the possible area code of 901 which seems pretty close to KY. I just can't fathom someone else coming up with a pseudonym like Gooch.
It seems pretty clear to me you were a retread all along which begs the question, How the fuck can you be true to your brothers when you can't be true to yourself? Your bad ass southern rodeo rope slingin' brand is nothing without integrity. You can't find honor through the voice of a ventriloquist. Maybe you and your life coach can discus why you choose to quit the same time every year.
I hope you find a way back to KTC. I hope you scrape your over sized horse shit ego at the door and I hope you treat your next group with a little more respect. I'll see you next June.
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This is very disheartening...
When I was creeping around the site before I flushed my can 126 days ago, I came across Gooch's story. I was planning on flushing it a few days later but after reading his story and the pain and shit he went through I flushed it that night.
Ive been preoccupied with my quit and my other quit brothers so I havent looked in on Gooch until today... I saw that his most recent activity was over 4 months ago and my stomach dropped...I thought "No, he couldnt have caved, not Gooch he was too strong, especially after having all those surgeries theres no way he did..."
Then I came in here.
It truly is a sad day. Gooch was the first number I got on this site.
Now that I'm done being sad, Gooch if your reading this, Thank you. Thank you for sharing your story and helping me cross that line and flush my can. Thank you for solidifying my quit with your cave. I will not give in to the bitch like you have. I will be stronger than you are...I will not go back to finger fucking a can, jamming cancer dirt in my lip. I want my fucking lips, I want to kiss my wife and future kids with my lips. I like my teeth, I love chewing food with my shiny whites, and flashing a smile at my wife. I love my tongue, I definitely love tasting food and eating other things that arent food (if you know what i mean 'Y' )
I'm pissed the bitch got another great guy. Im pissed that he didnt have the testicular fortitude to stick it out. Im pissed that despite peoples best efforts he still gave in to the bitch.
This will NOT have a negative impact on my quit...I am quit today...I will be quit tomorrow...
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This is very disheartening...
When I was creeping around the site before I flushed my can 126 days ago, I came across Gooch's story. I was planning on flushing it a few days later but after reading his story and the pain and shit he went through I flushed it that night.
Ive been preoccupied with my quit and my other quit brothers so I havent looked in on Gooch until today... I saw that his most recent activity was over 4 months ago and my stomach dropped...I thought "No, he couldnt have caved, not Gooch he was too strong, especially after having all those surgeries theres no way he did..."
Then I came in here.
It truly is a sad day. Gooch was the first number I got on this site.
Now that I'm done being sad, Gooch if your reading this, Thank you. Thank you for sharing your story and helping me cross that line and flush my can. Thank you for solidifying my quit with your cave. I will not give in to the bitch like you have. I will be stronger than you are...I will not go back to finger fucking a can, jamming cancer dirt in my lip. I want my fucking lips, I want to kiss my wife and future kids with my lips. I like my teeth, I love chewing food with my shiny whites, and flashing a smile at my wife. I love my tongue, I definitely love tasting food and eating other things that arent food (if you know what i mean 'Y' )
I'm pissed the bitch got another great guy. Im pissed that he didnt have the testicular fortitude to stick it out. Im pissed that despite peoples best efforts he still gave in to the bitch.
This will NOT have a negative impact on my quit...I am quit today...I will be quit tomorrow...
Gooch was unique and funny as hell. Quit within a few days of me. When I hit the hof I texted him and thanked him. He said he was happy for me and congratulated me, that's the kind of guy he was. Said he was doing well. Hope he still is. Good guy.
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This is very disheartening...
When I was creeping around the site before I flushed my can 126 days ago, I came across Gooch's story. I was planning on flushing it a few days later but after reading his story and the pain and shit he went through I flushed it that night.
Ive been preoccupied with my quit and my other quit brothers so I havent looked in on Gooch until today... I saw that his most recent activity was over 4 months ago and my stomach dropped...I thought "No, he couldnt have caved, not Gooch he was too strong, especially after having all those surgeries theres no way he did..."
Then I came in here.
It truly is a sad day. Gooch was the first number I got on this site.
Now that I'm done being sad, Gooch if your reading this, Thank you. Thank you for sharing your story and helping me cross that line and flush my can. Thank you for solidifying my quit with your cave. I will not give in to the bitch like you have. I will be stronger than you are...I will not go back to finger fucking a can, jamming cancer dirt in my lip. I want my fucking lips, I want to kiss my wife and future kids with my lips. I like my teeth, I love chewing food with my shiny whites, and flashing a smile at my wife. I love my tongue, I definitely love tasting food and eating other things that arent food (if you know what i mean 'Y' )
I'm pissed the bitch got another great guy. Im pissed that he didnt have the testicular fortitude to stick it out. Im pissed that despite peoples best efforts he still gave in to the bitch.
This will NOT have a negative impact on my quit...I am quit today...I will be quit tomorrow...
Gooch was unique and funny as hell. Quit within a few days of me. When I hit the hof I texted him and thanked him. He said he was happy for me and congratulated me, that's the kind of guy he was. Said he was doing well. Hope he still is. Good guy.
Caver.
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This is very disheartening...
When I was creeping around the site before I flushed my can 126 days ago, I came across Gooch's story. I was planning on flushing it a few days later but after reading his story and the pain and shit he went through I flushed it that night.
Ive been preoccupied with my quit and my other quit brothers so I havent looked in on Gooch until today... I saw that his most recent activity was over 4 months ago and my stomach dropped...I thought "No, he couldnt have caved, not Gooch he was too strong, especially after having all those surgeries theres no way he did..."
Then I came in here.
It truly is a sad day. Gooch was the first number I got on this site.
Now that I'm done being sad, Gooch if your reading this, Thank you. Thank you for sharing your story and helping me cross that line and flush my can. Thank you for solidifying my quit with your cave. I will not give in to the bitch like you have. I will be stronger than you are...I will not go back to finger fucking a can, jamming cancer dirt in my lip. I want my fucking lips, I want to kiss my wife and future kids with my lips. I like my teeth, I love chewing food with my shiny whites, and flashing a smile at my wife. I love my tongue, I definitely love tasting food and eating other things that arent food (if you know what i mean 'Y' )
I'm pissed the bitch got another great guy. Im pissed that he didnt have the testicular fortitude to stick it out. Im pissed that despite peoples best efforts he still gave in to the bitch.
This will NOT have a negative impact on my quit...I am quit today...I will be quit tomorrow...
Gooch was unique and funny as hell. Quit within a few days of me. When I hit the hof I texted him and thanked him. He said he was happy for me and congratulated me, that's the kind of guy he was. Said he was doing well. Hope he still is. Good guy.
Caver.
Haven't heard that name in awhile. (Gooch) When he caved I had a really tough time with it. It sent me into a major funk. Wondering why someone that had experienced so much pain would go back. Then someone told me not to worry about him, and focus on my quit.
Cavers affect me differently now, NOW I eat their discarded quits for lunch. Shit them out and look for more. Can't get enough. If they don't want them I'll take them gladly, weak people can kiss my ass...
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This is very disheartening...
When I was creeping around the site before I flushed my can 126 days ago, I came across Gooch's story. I was planning on flushing it a few days later but after reading his story and the pain and shit he went through I flushed it that night.
Ive been preoccupied with my quit and my other quit brothers so I havent looked in on Gooch until today... I saw that his most recent activity was over 4 months ago and my stomach dropped...I thought "No, he couldnt have caved, not Gooch he was too strong, especially after having all those surgeries theres no way he did..."
Then I came in here.
It truly is a sad day. Gooch was the first number I got on this site.
Now that I'm done being sad, Gooch if your reading this, Thank you. Thank you for sharing your story and helping me cross that line and flush my can. Thank you for solidifying my quit with your cave. I will not give in to the bitch like you have. I will be stronger than you are...I will not go back to finger fucking a can, jamming cancer dirt in my lip. I want my fucking lips, I want to kiss my wife and future kids with my lips. I like my teeth, I love chewing food with my shiny whites, and flashing a smile at my wife. I love my tongue, I definitely love tasting food and eating other things that arent food (if you know what i mean 'Y' )
I'm pissed the bitch got another great guy. Im pissed that he didnt have the testicular fortitude to stick it out. Im pissed that despite peoples best efforts he still gave in to the bitch.
This will NOT have a negative impact on my quit...I am quit today...I will be quit tomorrow...
Gooch was unique and funny as hell. Quit within a few days of me. When I hit the hof I texted him and thanked him. He said he was happy for me and congratulated me, that's the kind of guy he was. Said he was doing well. Hope he still is. Good guy.
Caver.
Haven't heard that name in awhile. (Gooch) When he caved I had a really tough time with it. It sent me into a major funk. Wondering why someone that had experienced so much pain would go back. Then someone told me not to worry about him, and focus on my quit.
Cavers affect me differently now, NOW I eat their discarded quits for lunch. Shit them out and look for more. Can't get enough. If they don't want them I'll take them gladly, weak people can kiss my ass...
Exactly. Caver. Nothing to see here.
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Damn saw this post bumped and though maybe Gooch had come back to quit. Guess he'll wait until his gums and teeth are completely gone or he gets that one sore in his mouth that never goes away...
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Gum Grafts, guess who had their 6th today...
This thread reeks of failure. Reading it this dude wanted his quit. But failed, why? Because his addiction got ahold of him and he didn't know where else to reach to but his cancer can. That's why you need to change your mentality, do not use the word want. I want a million dollars, I want not to have to pay bills, I want a super model girlfriend...I won't get those. But I WILL quit today. That's for g'damn sure
I want him to come back...
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I just posted this in Kjsylva82's "scared as hell" feed... I thought some of you other newbies would like to know what is waiting for you if you don't keep posting roll...
I've had 5 gum grafts (maybe more? I have honestly lost count).. they are painful as hell... they never put me to sleep when I get them.. they lay your ass back in a dentists chair under a bright ass light.. you have to keep your mouth wide open for an eternity.. after a while your jaws cramp so damn bad you have to take breaks.. they will give you a lot of numbing agent at first in the roof of your mouth and in your gums on both sides (inside outside of your gums) because the stitches go all the way through your gums.. the first few shots are really the only ones that actually hurt, because after that it is numb.. There are several bad parts of this procedure.. my least favorite is when they cut the hunk of skin out of the roof of your mouth.. they pretty much have you blind folded and your numb as hell.. still you can tell because the dr says "open wide".. the scalpel goes into the roof of your mouth and you immediately taste blood.. because it runs into the back of your throat.. (this is one good thing about being a dipper.. we have an auto shut off back there and we can block from swallowing!) after the dr. makes the first few slices there.. eventually they have to saw the hunk of skin off THIS IS THE PART I HATE.. your head moves with the sawing action! by this time they have already completely pulled scraped what is left of your gums in the bottom away from your teeth as to put the newly cut piece from the roof of your mouth.. this next part irks the shit out of me.. my dr always lays the hunk of skin from the roof of my mouth on my shoulder until she is ready to put it into place.. then.. finally when she is ready.. the hunk of meat from the roof of my mouth.. it is tightly packed between my old gum (whats left of it) my teeth.. then it is stitched into place.. with a rather large needle that goes all the way through your teeth and gums and back around to neatly sew the new hunk of gum into place.. the entire time this is happening the assistant is sucking blood from your mouth and throat with a large tube.. under the blindfold you can see massive amounts of blood going through the tube.. once were done.. a piece of plastic called a stint is placed in the roof of your mouth, to keep you from bleeding.. for the next week or so it is very soft food and eating on one side of your mouth.. very slowly and carefully not to rip anything away from the gum or hit the roof of your mouth.. you are incredibly swollen and sore for a few days..often during the 1st few nights you bleed from the roof of your mouth while sleeping and gag on bloodÂ… now just imagine being so addicted that within hours of leaving this surgeryÂ… you want to dip so badly that you put a dip into your top lip just to get your nic fix.. you have to do it just right.. any sucking action and you will unclot the roof of your mouth and bleed out like a stuck hog.. Never has a gum graft surgery ever stopped me from dipping.. only when I got tired of all the shit did I stop.. when I got tired of being a fucking slave and paying big money to be the slave. Today even though its only been 12 days.. I still want to dip a few times a day.. but you know what.. I donÂ’t have to! Gone are the days when I have a surgery and I cannot even make it through the rest of the day and I have to pack that shit into my top lip to get the fix.. tell me I am not an addict! I am totally an addict.. if you are here.. guess what?? You probably are too. Today I am so thankful.. I do not have to dip! The nic bitch has lost her fucking power today boys.. I respect the shit out of her because I know what she can do to me.. but today I say no thanks.. actually I say Fuck You and all the pain that comes with you.. I am free today! Thanks fellas! Gooch
Not sure why but I thought of this guy today and this post that scared me over 4 years ago. Took me some time to find again but i was able to, finally.
Maybe it can help.someone else? Who knows...
Sadly, even after all this he still caved and vanished. I wonder how many more gum grafts he has had since.
Smh...
Quit on...
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I just posted this in Kjsylva82's "scared as hell" feed... I thought some of you other newbies would like to know what is waiting for you if you don't keep posting roll...
I've had 5 gum grafts (maybe more? I have honestly lost count).. they are painful as hell... they never put me to sleep when I get them.. they lay your ass back in a dentists chair under a bright ass light.. you have to keep your mouth wide open for an eternity.. after a while your jaws cramp so damn bad you have to take breaks.. they will give you a lot of numbing agent at first in the roof of your mouth and in your gums on both sides (inside outside of your gums) because the stitches go all the way through your gums.. the first few shots are really the only ones that actually hurt, because after that it is numb.. There are several bad parts of this procedure.. my least favorite is when they cut the hunk of skin out of the roof of your mouth.. they pretty much have you blind folded and your numb as hell.. still you can tell because the dr says "open wide".. the scalpel goes into the roof of your mouth and you immediately taste blood.. because it runs into the back of your throat.. (this is one good thing about being a dipper.. we have an auto shut off back there and we can block from swallowing!) after the dr. makes the first few slices there.. eventually they have to saw the hunk of skin off THIS IS THE PART I HATE.. your head moves with the sawing action! by this time they have already completely pulled scraped what is left of your gums in the bottom away from your teeth as to put the newly cut piece from the roof of your mouth.. this next part irks the shit out of me.. my dr always lays the hunk of skin from the roof of my mouth on my shoulder until she is ready to put it into place.. then.. finally when she is ready.. the hunk of meat from the roof of my mouth.. it is tightly packed between my old gum (whats left of it) my teeth.. then it is stitched into place.. with a rather large needle that goes all the way through your teeth and gums and back around to neatly sew the new hunk of gum into place.. the entire time this is happening the assistant is sucking blood from your mouth and throat with a large tube.. under the blindfold you can see massive amounts of blood going through the tube.. once were done.. a piece of plastic called a stint is placed in the roof of your mouth, to keep you from bleeding.. for the next week or so it is very soft food and eating on one side of your mouth.. very slowly and carefully not to rip anything away from the gum or hit the roof of your mouth.. you are incredibly swollen and sore for a few days..often during the 1st few nights you bleed from the roof of your mouth while sleeping and gag on bloodÂ… now just imagine being so addicted that within hours of leaving this surgeryÂ… you want to dip so badly that you put a dip into your top lip just to get your nic fix.. you have to do it just right.. any sucking action and you will unclot the roof of your mouth and bleed out like a stuck hog.. Never has a gum graft surgery ever stopped me from dipping.. only when I got tired of all the shit did I stop.. when I got tired of being a fucking slave and paying big money to be the slave. Today even though its only been 12 days.. I still want to dip a few times a day.. but you know what.. I donÂ’t have to! Gone are the days when I have a surgery and I cannot even make it through the rest of the day and I have to pack that shit into my top lip to get the fix.. tell me I am not an addict! I am totally an addict.. if you are here.. guess what?? You probably are too. Today I am so thankful.. I do not have to dip! The nic bitch has lost her fucking power today boys.. I respect the shit out of her because I know what she can do to me.. but today I say no thanks.. actually I say Fuck You and all the pain that comes with you.. I am free today! Thanks fellas! Gooch
Not sure why but I thought of this guy today and this post that scared me over 4 years ago. Took me some time to find again but i was able to, finally.
Maybe it can help.someone else? Who knows...
Sadly, even after all this he still caved and vanished. I wonder how many more gum grafts he has had since.
Smh...
Quit on...
Wow. What a thread. He is probably still chewing or had is lower jawbone replaced with part of his tibia.