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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: samuelS on April 04, 2008, 12:29:00 PM
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Well, first of all my name is Sam. I am twenty years old and have been dipping on and off for about three years. I quit last August but started again about a month ago. Then I quit again last Saturday but slipped up and took a dip yesterday. Thankfully I am not withdrawing from just that one dip, but I do need a support group. Even now my brain is telling me "but you're still young, you potentially have many years of dipping ahead of you before you need to quit." But I'm not gonna listen to that bullshit.
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Well, first of all my name is Sam. I am twenty years old and have been dipping on and off for about three years. I quit last August but started again about a month ago. Then I quit again last Saturday but slipped up and took a dip yesterday. Thankfully I am not withdrawing from just that one dip, but I do need a support group. Even now my brain is telling me "but you're still young, you potentially have many years of dipping ahead of you before you need to quit." But I'm not gonna listen to that bullshit.
Welcome Sam,
You made a great choice and we all started where you are right now. I used for nearly 30 years and now have been quit for 95 days. So dump your staash and go over to quit groups and post roll call for July 08. If you need help PM me I'll help you anyway I can, Again welcome aboard!
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Sam, Stop this bullshit in its tracks now. I am 46 and want the last 28 years back that copenhagen stole from me. The information here can save you. We have all been there. I have spent around $33,000.00 in my life on NOTHING!(copenhagen) Don't give these bastards any more of your money. This isn't tough guy shit, quitting and depriving U.S. Tobacco of your money is tough guy shit. Get pissed, man, they're using you! Your anger can be your friend. Learn how to harness its energy.
Al
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Sam, Stop this bullshit in its tracks now. I am 46 and want the last 28 years back that copenhagen stole from me. The information here can save you. We have all been there. I have spent around $33,000.00 in my life on NOTHING!(copenhagen) Don't give these bastards any more of your money. This isn't tough guy shit, quitting and depriving U.S. Tobacco of your money is tough guy shit. Get pissed, man, they're using you! Your anger can be your friend. Learn how to harness its energy.
Al
Motivation to quit is step by step.....Crosshair is dead on...get pissed. I have over 28 years of cope under my belt also. I wish i had had a tool like this to quit when i was your age. US tobacco knows dam well what it is doing and has done with nicotine addiction. It has been intentional and aimed at every poor s.o.b. that ever took a dip without knowing the true consequences.
Read all you can on this web site from the HOF stories to ODT and the Kerns.....it will hit you between the eyes that yes this is tough but you are NOT alone....every one of us has been there.
Always remember there is "one" dip somewhere that triggered the beginning of cancer....is it the one you just spit out....the next one you are putting in....
I know at 20 you have the "can't happen to me, i'm gonna live forever" mentality. Hell, i'm 42 and still have some of that.....don't believe the lie....it can happen to anybody, anytime.......You have so many joys to look forward to over next 20 years you don't even know.....don't let this shit take it away from you....
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Thank you all for your help today, it has been rough at times but so far I have not dipped. Your support enabled me to make it today.
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Keep strong...it isn't easy or pretty but it can be done. first and foremost you have to want to be quit. the nic talking to you is because you are an addict like all of here. don't kid yourself and say you aren't. if you weren't you wouldn't be here and would never cave. get mad at UST and nic but not at yourself. ask questions and read things on this site...there are lots of pieces of information on how to recognize craves and avoid the cave. learn, make a plan, stick to it and make sure to ask for help if you need it.
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Sam, keep it up, and get your ass over to the July group and sign roll for today. We got a good group forming over there and need another quitter. Lets see you there soon.
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Ok so I need to be honest - I smoked a few cigarettes over the last week, which led up to me taking another dip on Tuesday, then 2 cigarettes yesterday and fighting myself to not go buy a can. I didn't even enjoy them, I felt terrible during and following the act. I guess I'm having trouble accepting I need to give up all forms of nicotine, but the truth is I can't do any of it because I'll end up going back to what I really want, which is dip. Did not truly grasp how powerful this shit is. I want to quit because even though I am only 20, knowing my luck I would be one of the random cases who gets cancer after 5 years of dipping. And it's already been 3.
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Ok so I need to be honest - I smoked a few cigarettes over the last week, which led up to me taking another dip on Tuesday, then 2 cigarettes yesterday and fighting myself to not go buy a can. I didn't even enjoy them, I felt terrible during and following the act. I guess I'm having trouble accepting I need to give up all forms of nicotine, but the truth is I can't do any of it because I'll end up going back to what I really want, which is dip. Did not truly grasp how powerful this shit is. I want to quit because even though I am only 20, knowing my luck I would be one of the random cases who gets cancer after 5 years of dipping. And it's already been 3.
head over to july 08 -- post up a day 1 and get this shit done.
cigs are the gateway to dip... you need to be NIC free otherwise the bitch will get you back. sounds like you're starting to realize this.
chewie
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Ok so I need to be honest - I smoked a few cigarettes over the last week, which led up to me taking another dip on Tuesday, then 2 cigarettes yesterday and fighting myself to not go buy a can. I didn't even enjoy them, I felt terrible during and following the act. I guess I'm having trouble accepting I need to give up all forms of nicotine, but the truth is I can't do any of it because I'll end up going back to what I really want, which is dip. Did not truly grasp how powerful this shit is. I want to quit because even though I am only 20, knowing my luck I would be one of the random cases who gets cancer after 5 years of dipping. And it's already been 3.
Let's understand each other here SamIam. Have a dip you post day 1, have a cigarette you post day 1, have a stogie you post day 1, if you hang out in the smoke shack at work because it helps you get your fix you post day 1. If you use NRT (patch or gum) you can post your days quit as long as you are following the prescribed plan. We are addicted to nicotine my friend, dip was just the avenue of ingestion. Its true this is a stop dipping site, but all forms of tobacco are out! Get serious and give it up. PERIOD!
If you are going to post roll with July, you had better be prepared to give and keep your word. That is what roll call is, your word! Are you good to your word?
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Sam,
When the bitch whispers in your ear, YOU IGNORE HER! Nicotine is persuasive, Nicotine will tell you whatever you want to hear, Nicotine will turn you into a blathering spineless idiot IF YOU LET HER! KILL HER NOW!!! Sign up for a quit group and be held accountable. If you don't take her out now, with extreme prejudice, you'll be wondering where all the years went when you're my age.
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day 2..
had a buddy offer me a dip yesterday and was about to take it when I remembered this site...then i got pissed I had found this site in the first place
having bad anxiety and heart palpitations but i'm gonna make it
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Sack up and don't be a pussy.
Tell the nic bitch to fuck off and move on. The first 21 days will suck out loud after that you'll have ninja craves but they are bearable. Consider the alternative, your face rots off.
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I'm 32 days in to my quit and I still have cravings and they suck. However, they are really spaced out and are few and far between. You get through that first week Sam and you have it made. And I understand the cigarette thing. I quit dipping one time for six months. I went to the beach for a friend's wedding and drank a couple beers and smoked a few cigarettes. I think we all know what that led me to doing. I was dipping again after a month or so of smokes. It was probably the second dumbest thing I've ever done (the dumbest is ever putting that shit in my mouth in the first place). Take it from a guy who has quit and been sucked back in -- and I'm certainly one of the few hundred thousand -- get it in your head you are going to quit and DO IT. It took a couple years of me being stupid to get it in my head. I'm quit and I'm staying quit. You all have my word. Hell, that's all we've got to go on with each other -- our word. Make your word mean something. Tell everybody who knows you chew that you are quit. Give your word to as many people as you can and don't let them down. You and I are lucky, my friend. I'm only 25 and you're younger than I am. Let's get through this. It gets easier and everybody here is more than willing to help.
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funny how the addiction will try to take any oppurtunity to sneak in...no matter how irrational
i was outside shooting all day today and got a badass sunburn, my head tells me "you're probably going to get skin cancer from this, might as well dip, cancer
is cancer"
amazing. but I kept in mind that no matter what happens a dip can only make it worse
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funny how the addiction will try to take any oppurtunity to sneak in...no matter how irrational
i was outside shooting all day today and got a badass sunburn, my head tells me "you're probably going to get skin cancer from this, might as well dip, cancer
is cancer"
amazing. but I kept in mind that no matter what happens a dip can only make it worse
that's the way. congratulations on how you chose to handle that.
The nic bitch will try every justification in the world to get you to have "just one dip"...
Remember, it may the "the one" to start your cancer..........
Everytime you withstand the temptation you will be stronger for the next....excellent choice today.
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Day 4!
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You go big Daddy, you should be through the physical part and on to the head games! Great Work!!!
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Ok, So I don't know if I mentioned this but the main reason I quit dipping is out of fear of gum disease. I don't have the best teeth - my dad has periodontal disease.
Right now my gums are swollen and gush blood when I floss, I was wondering if this happened to others when they quit or if I should see a dentist?
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Ok, So I don't know if I mentioned this but the main reason I quit dipping is out of fear of gum disease. I don't have the best teeth - my dad has periodontal disease.
Right now my gums are swollen and gush blood when I floss, I was wondering if this happened to others when they quit or if I should see a dentist?
most likely this is just normal wear and tear. even if you didn't dip, if you weren't flossing on a regular basis and then you started flossing you'd bleed like a motherfucker.
continue to floss nightly for a couple of days and the bleeding should go away.
a good rule of thumb with mouth issues -- if it's there for 2 weeks or longer get it checked.
chewie
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Gracias
Yea hopefully that's what it is - I hadn't flossed in like three weeks prior to today. I need to start taking better care of my teeth or I'm gonna get gum disease regardless of whether or not I dip. :o
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When does the fucking obsession end? After 6 days, I still spend all day thinking about dip and it's driving me crazy.
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When does the fucking obsession end? After 6 days, I still spend all day thinking about dip and it's driving me crazy.
bring this conversation into your quit group, and/or older quit groups. You will get more of a response.
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roger that thanks
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When does the fucking obsession end? After 6 days, I still spend all day thinking about dip and it's driving me crazy.
There is no clear answer to your question. It still pops up in my mind after 60 days. But much less often and at a lower intensity. Be patient and just do it day by day.
As for your earlier post on gums bleeding. I had the same problems. I remember eating sushi on my 21st birthday after only dipping for 2 years and my mom freaking out when she saw my gums bleeding at dinner. It took my a few more years to wake up and after nearly 50 days of not dipping anymore I feel great. My gums rarely bleed, and I am more in touch with who I really am than I have been in years.
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http://www.killthecan.org/about/coke/coke600_019.jpg (http://www.killthecan.org/about/coke/coke600_019.jpg)
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WHO IS THAT???
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WHO IS THAT???
she's a big KTC fan that loot, aqua, whodey rc met at the coke 600...
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Now who the hell is this whore? She is stacked!!
http://www.killthecan.org/about/coke/coke600_019.jpg (http://www.killthecan.org/about/coke/coke600_019.jpg)
Mom??? Is that you?
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Now who the hell is this whore? She is stacked!!
http://www.killthecan.org/about/coke/coke600_019.jpg (http://www.killthecan.org/about/coke/coke600_019.jpg)
Mom??? Is that you?
'crackup' tiffs
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WHO IS THAT???
she's a big KTC fan that loot, aqua, whodey rc met at the coke 600...
Wait, KTC has groupies?? I really did come the right place! HA!
Slug
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WHO IS THAT???
she's a big KTC fan that loot, aqua, whodey rc met at the coke 600...
i'd be obliged if i could meet her also. you know, just to thank her for supporting the site and all.
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did i mention that i love big fake titties? well, i love big fake tits.