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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: mcr207 on December 02, 2012, 06:21:00 AM
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I'm a 24 year old white male from a remote village in Ghana...Just kidding, I'm from Virginia. I've been dipping/smoking for a long time, despite the young age. Some of my most cherished, early memories are of me and my cousins stealing cigs from our entire family. At 13 or 14, I was smoking around a half pack a day and occasionally dipping, when I could get it. At around 15 I started dipping quite a bit (got my supply line worked out by then, heh), and loved every minute of it. After I started it didn't take long before I was dipping pretty much consantly. For the last few years, I've had a dip in pretty much anytime I wasn't asleep or eating.
But anyway, I threw around the idea of quitting the last few days before I quit, due to my mom having her second round of chemo. I can't say that I really ever decided to quit, though. The idea interested me, but I never committed. However, on the 29th I found myself cutting back and buying seeds, etc in preparation to stop dipping, which caught me off guard haha. It's almost like someone decided to quit for me already. I guess you can say I technically stopped that night, because I refused to take that last dip of the night at 7pm, instead I just rode it out. I woke up the next morning on the 30th with no intention of getting another dip. And I haven't. I have tried to quit before and I never made it very long. This time, I feel like it's already beaten. I know I will not fail and let myself down this time.
So now I'm on the third day at ex dipper status. My cravings continue to decrease. My oral fixation, or whatever you want to call it, is still driving me a little crazy. I thought I was going to OD on sunflower seeds the other day. But, it's getting better. My number one issue is that I'm absolutely exhausted all the time now. I'm sleeping all the time. I don't know what the deal is with that. I'm hoping that it will ease up and I'll get over this fatigue. I have to pull 72hrs at work from Mon-Sun, so I don't have time for too much of it 'help'
But, it's the beginning of day 3 without dip and I'm starting to get pretty excited about being over this thing. I can see my life won't be completely ruined without a dip in my lip :o . Who would've thought..
By the way, this site has been a big help. I've been lurking on here for the past few days and I believe that's been a big factor in this transition. Also, thanks to CBird65 for taking the time to PM me some info and get me to start posting roll.
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I'm a 24 year old white male from a remote village in Ghana...Just kidding, I'm from Virginia. I've been dipping/smoking for a long time, despite the young age. Some of my most cherished, early memories are of me and my cousins stealing cigs from our entire family. At 13 or 14, I was smoking around a half pack a day and occasionally dipping, when I could get it. At around 15 I started dipping quite a bit (got my supply line worked out by then, heh), and loved every minute of it. After I started it didn't take long before I was dipping pretty much consantly. For the last few years, I've had a dip in pretty much anytime I wasn't asleep or eating.
But anyway, I threw around the idea of quitting the last few days before I quit, due to my mom having her second round of chemo. I can't say that I really ever decided to quit, though. The idea interested me, but I never committed. However, on the 29th I found myself cutting back and buying seeds, etc in preparation to stop dipping, which caught me off guard haha. It's almost like someone decided to quit for me already. I guess you can say I technically stopped that night, because I refused to take that last dip of the night at 7pm, instead I just rode it out. I woke up the next morning on the 30th with no intention of getting another dip. And I haven't. I have tried to quit before and I never made it very long. This time, I feel like it's already beaten. I know I will not fail and let myself down this time.
So now I'm on the third day at ex dipper status. My cravings continue to decrease. My oral fixation, or whatever you want to call it, is still driving me a little crazy. I thought I was going to OD on sunflower seeds the other day. But, it's getting better. My number one issue is that I'm absolutely exhausted all the time now. I'm sleeping all the time. I don't know what the deal is with that. I'm hoping that it will ease up and I'll get over this fatigue. I have to pull 72hrs at work from Mon-Sun, so I don't have time for too much of it 'help'
But, it's the beginning of day 3 without dip and I'm starting to get pretty excited about being over this thing. I can see my life won't be completely ruined without a dip in my lip :o . Who would've thought..
By the way, this site has been a big help. I've been lurking on here for the past few days and I believe that's been a big factor in this transition. Also, thanks to CBird65 for taking the time to PM me some info and get me to start posting roll.
welcome mcr! Congrats on your decision to quit!.
Check your inbox(1)
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welcome mcr! Congrats on your decision to quit!.
Check your inbox(1)
Nice. Thank you for the info.
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I'm a 24 year old white male from a remote village in Ghana...Just kidding, I'm from Virginia. I've been dipping/smoking for a long time, despite the young age. Some of my most cherished, early memories are of me and my cousins stealing cigs from our entire family. At 13 or 14, I was smoking around a half pack a day and occasionally dipping, when I could get it. At around 15 I started dipping quite a bit (got my supply line worked out by then, heh), and loved every minute of it. After I started it didn't take long before I was dipping pretty much consantly. For the last few years, I've had a dip in pretty much anytime I wasn't asleep or eating.
But anyway, I threw around the idea of quitting the last few days before I quit, due to my mom having her second round of chemo. I can't say that I really ever decided to quit, though. The idea interested me, but I never committed. However, on the 29th I found myself cutting back and buying seeds, etc in preparation to stop dipping, which caught me off guard haha. It's almost like someone decided to quit for me already. I guess you can say I technically stopped that night, because I refused to take that last dip of the night at 7pm, instead I just rode it out. I woke up the next morning on the 30th with no intention of getting another dip. And I haven't. I have tried to quit before and I never made it very long. This time, I feel like it's already beaten. I know I will not fail and let myself down this time.
So now I'm on the third day at ex dipper status. My cravings continue to decrease. My oral fixation, or whatever you want to call it, is still driving me a little crazy. I thought I was going to OD on sunflower seeds the other day. But, it's getting better. My number one issue is that I'm absolutely exhausted all the time now. I'm sleeping all the time. I don't know what the deal is with that. I'm hoping that it will ease up and I'll get over this fatigue. I have to pull 72hrs at work from Mon-Sun, so I don't have time for too much of it 'help'
But, it's the beginning of day 3 without dip and I'm starting to get pretty excited about being over this thing. I can see my life won't be completely ruined without a dip in my lip :o . Who would've thought..
By the way, this site has been a big help. I've been lurking on here for the past few days and I believe that's been a big factor in this transition. Also, thanks to CBird65 for taking the time to PM me some info and get me to start posting roll.
Good to see you posted roll, now do it daily. Posting roll is a daily promise that you'll not use nic that day. One day at a time, that's how we quit here. I came here on day 3 as well after lurking, now use the site the way it was intended, reach out to brothers and exchange numbers, yea its weird at first but it strengthens the brotherhood and ultimately your quit. Jump into chat and most importantly reach out when you're struggling!!!
You're description on day 3 is normal, some people can't sleep, I sleep all the time too. You're starting off right with seeds and such. I'm glad you're here, I'll quit with you today. PM me if you need anything, or just need another number
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Welcome to KTC and congratulations on quitting. It is the best possible decision you can make. Good job posting roll as well. Just make sure you do it early everyday and make that promise not to use. If you ever need anything or need some digits just pm me. I Quit with you today.
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I appreciate all the support. Today and this week in general is going to be the ticket. My first big test I guess. I work 7p-7a on M, T, W, F, Sa, and Su. I work at a relatively stressful job along side multiple smokers. Luckily I'm going into it on day 4 at least.
If anyone else works nightshift this week and needs a message/text buddy, just message me haha. I'll need some sound logic, because this week is going to blow.
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I'm a 24 year old white male from a remote village in Ghana...Just kidding, I'm from Virginia.
Hahaha! Without a doubt one of the funniest things I've read on this site. It's a good thing you've got a twisted sense of humor because you're gonna need it. Like the other guys said though, all of your symptoms are normal. Steal as much sleep as possible and keep a bag of seeds with you at all times. I've got way too many bags now. I was like one of those doomsday preppers with my seed collection, but one day I just got bored and stopped eating them. PM me if you need anything.
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I'm a 24 year old white male from a remote village in Ghana...Just kidding, I'm from Virginia.
Hahaha! Without a doubt one of the funniest things I've read on this site. It's a good thing you've got a twisted sense of humor because you're gonna need it. Like the other guys said though, all of your symptoms are normal. Steal as much sleep as possible and keep a bag of seeds with you at all times. I've got way too many bags now. I was like one of those doomsday preppers with my seed collection, but one day I just got bored and stopped eating them. PM me if you need anything.
Jeez, finally haha. I was wondering why no one else thought that shit was incredibly funny. But yeah, the sleep is easing up to normal and the salty seeds f'd my mouth up more than dip. So, now I'm on sunflower quit day 2.
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keep up the good work MCR - one day at at time man
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Keep that excitement. It will make the process a lot easier. Don't be afraid to ask for help during the tough times. Post roll, kick ass and don't fail. You can do it.
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Does it ever just blow your mind when you realize you're quit and life is livable, dare I say much better, without dip?
..or is it just me haha
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Does it ever just blow your mind when you realize you're quit and life is livable, dare I say much better, without dip?
..or is it just me haha
Nope, it's not just you. You have no idea how much better things are about to get for you.
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Hey fellas, hope everyone's quit is going good. I just thought I would jump on and give an update on the quit! Luckily, I'm still quit for 102 in real life. However, my dream self still struggles often with skoal wintergreen haha.
My quit has opened up a lot of changes for me. I'm taking care of myself better overall, started running, and picking up new habits/hobbies (reading, codinglol) and actually sticking with it by taking it bit by bit and a day at a time. Definitely something I learned here and on my quit.
Anyway, its good stuff. If anyone needs a quitter to get or stay quit with just yell at me and I'll send you my number.
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I for one could care less about your "updates". This site works by posting your daily promise and helping others. I am glad your still quit, but go somewhere else if you want someone to kiss your ass or tell you how proud we are of you.
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I for one could care less about your "updates". This site works by posting your daily promise and helping others. I am glad your still quit, but go somewhere else if you want someone to kiss your ass or tell you how proud we are of you.
Wow! It's a shame that we can bear each others' burdens, but are criticized when we share in victory. Haters have to hate for some reason that's beyond me. Good frickin job MCR207! There. I said it. Don't listen to anyone who wants to piss on the parade. Fuckers.
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I for one could care less about your "updates". This site works by posting your daily promise and helping others. I am glad your still quit, but go somewhere else if you want someone to kiss your ass or tell you how proud we are of you.
I think you should go somewhere else if your going to spread that kind of negativity. No one's asking for you to kiss anyone's ass but have a little common courtesy and respect for fellow addicts on this site who are struggling. This site works by fellow quitters supporting each other...and that includes positive updates you fuck. I had it out with CleanFuel this weekend but at least he was trying to help in his own fucked up way.....but you; what a douche
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I for one could care less about your "updates". This site works by posting your daily promise and helping others. I am glad your still quit, but go somewhere else if you want someone to kiss your ass or tell you how proud we are of you.
I think you should go somewhere else if your going to spread that kind of negativity. No one's asking for you to kiss anyone's ass but have a little common courtesy and respect for fellow addicts on this site who are struggling. This site works by fellow quitters supporting each other...and that includes positive updates you fuck. I had it out with CleanFuel this weekend but at least he was trying to help in his own fucked up way.....but you; what a douche
Oh do I need to laugh.
Below yes we see a difference of opinion, but we also have the definition for how KTC works.
Wake hit the Hall in Dec 12 and had a 99% posting rate (per the spreadsheet). Mcr who has also hit the hall, had a 62% posting rate. (Both of these in the first 100 days).
Now in looking at the number of posts we see 347 versus 42.
I only throw out these numbers as the golden rules of KTC are the 3 main words of Brotherhood, Accountability and Success.
Wake is responding, and I fully agree that in this case the Success is still there, but without the Brotherhood and the Accountability; the interacting with fellow quitters and the giving of our daily word early to one another, the full concept of this site is not being followed.
In the same way that we provide our word early in the day and then honor it, we do not post when the day is over to celebrate it, and that MCR, is what I feel you have done.
I too say nice job on getting the 100 days. I just wish you would take into advisement those other 2 words at this time as I have seen to many like you show back up with posting a Day 1 in a new month. Its education my friend, and if you are not around have you learned.
good times
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I for one could care less about your "updates". This site works by posting your daily promise and helping others. I am glad your still quit, but go somewhere else if you want someone to kiss your ass or tell you how proud we are of you.
I totally get Wake's point. It's harsh but it's true.
While I am glad mcr is still quit, where the hell has he been??
Mcr has been quit 102 days and has 42 posts. Yet Screw has been quit like 8 days and has 47 posts.
Again, I'm glad Mcr is still quit, but don't you think that in those 102 days quit he could have helped some people with their quit? I'm sure he has learned a lot in those 102 days, and to not pay it forward at least a little is kind of weak. I know it's not the law that he HAS to help others and post zillion times, but come on. Help some newbies out!
The guy goes two and a half months between posts and then just pops in all happy and chipper to fill us in on his quit. Like we have been waiting with baited breath for HIS update. Truth is everyone has forgotten about the guy. A lof of shit has gone down in here over the last 2 and a half months. I doubt anyone has been thinking "gee, I wonder what mcr has been up too."
One last time, I am glad he is still quit and I really don't have a problem with him using the site to keep himself quit. Just don't pop in every 3 months and tell us how great your life is, if you can't stop by more often and share some of the reasons why it's so great, with guys who are struggling to get off the ground. And if you do, don't expect to be greeted with high fives and hugs, when you are just gonna disapear again like a fart in the wind.
Like Derek said. This is a BROTHERHOOD.
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I for one could care less about your "updates". This site works by posting your daily promise and helping others. I am glad your still quit, but go somewhere else if you want someone to kiss your ass or tell you how proud we are of you.
Wow! It's a shame that we can bear each others' burdens, but are criticized when we share in victory. Haters have to hate for some reason that's beyond me. Good frickin job MCR207! There. I said it. Don't listen to anyone who wants to piss on the parade. Fuckers.
Question...and really think about this before popping off...would this site work if it was a bunch quitters posting their "updates" every three months?
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I for one could care less about your "updates". This site works by posting your daily promise and helping others. I am glad your still quit, but go somewhere else if you want someone to kiss your ass or tell you how proud we are of you.
I totally get Wake's point. It's harsh but it's true.
While I am glad mcr is still quit, where the hell has he been??
Mcr has been quit 102 days and has 42 posts. Yet Screw has been quit like 8 days and has 47 posts.
Like Derek said. This is a BROTHERHOOD.
I'm right there with Wake, Derek, and Diesel. When I first joined the site, a lot of the bitching about roll call and getting numbers from your fellow bros pissed me off. I thought I was my own man and that I didn't have to fall in line, lock-step with everyone else. I especially hated the commonly used, "you're not a special butterfly" line that pops up in every intro thread at some point.
So Bigby and ScrewtheChew, I get it. Why hate on someone who did it. The hallowed 100 day mark! It's because I have been around long enough to see the second floor. I've seen the flaky members of my group slowly fall off the wagon. By now the only people left, about 12 out of 30 something, are the ones who post every day and offer support to their brothers and one sister. I guarantee everyone in my group has the number of someone else. We're one big interwoven web. That's for the benefit of the other guy just as much as for yourself. By stoppin in once in a while to say hi, mcr has cheated himself and his quit group out of more link in the chain.
I take this seriously and so should you. You have to make it a lifestyle. Ingraine it in your mind that roll is a daily promise.
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I for one could care less about your "updates". This site works by posting your daily promise and helping others. I am glad your still quit, but go somewhere else if you want someone to kiss your ass or tell you how proud we are of you.
I totally get Wake's point. It's harsh but it's true.
While I am glad mcr is still quit, where the hell has he been??
Mcr has been quit 102 days and has 42 posts. Yet Screw has been quit like 8 days and has 47 posts.
Like Derek said. This is a BROTHERHOOD.
I'm right there with Wake, Derek, and Diesel. When I first joined the site, a lot of the bitching about roll call and getting numbers from your fellow bros pissed me off. I thought I was my own man and that I didn't have to fall in line, lock-step with everyone else. I especially hated the commonly used, "you're not a special butterfly" line that pops up in every intro thread at some point.
So Bigby and ScrewtheChew, I get it. Why hate on someone who did it. The hallowed 100 day mark! It's because I have been around long enough to see the second floor. I've seen the flaky members of my group slowly fall off the wagon. By now the only people left, about 12 out of 30 something, are the ones who post every day and offer support to their brothers and one sister. I guarantee everyone in my group has the number of someone else. We're one big interwoven web. That's for the benefit of the other guy just as much as for yourself. By stoppin in once in a while to say hi, mcr has cheated himself and his quit group out of more link in the chain.
I take this seriously and so should you. You have to make it a lifestyle. Ingraine it in your mind that roll is a daily promise.
Bravo!
You hit the nail on the fucking head man.
This site is about quitting, and I fucking hate nicotine. I applaud anybody that has the courage to quit it (including those that don't post here).
So, congrats mcr. I'm glad you've made it this far on your own. Statistically, you are at a disadvantage to those of us that are here of staying quit. Luckily, you are welcome to begin posting regularly and raise those chances immensely.
Anybody can stop for a short time period.
It takes some balls to call your shot and make sure you stay quit. If you don't believe me, catch me in days. I dare you.
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I for one could care less about your "updates". This site works by posting your daily promise and helping others. I am glad your still quit, but go somewhere else if you want someone to kiss your ass or tell you how proud we are of you.
I think you should go somewhere else if your going to spread that kind of negativity. No one's asking for you to kiss anyone's ass but have a little common courtesy and respect for fellow addicts on this site who are struggling. This site works by fellow quitters supporting each other...and that includes positive updates you fuck. I had it out with CleanFuel this weekend but at least he was trying to help in his own fucked up way.....but you; what a douche
You need to read a little more and learn what this place is all about, you fuck! I respect anyone who post a promise everyday, you fuck! Who is there helping other new people like yourself quit, you fuck! Who is there for me when I need them, you fuck! Maybe you need to focus on your quit a little more and quit worrying about what a bad ass quitter "CleanFuel" and myself are, you fuck!
If you want to write an update post it in your journal for your mom to read!
*Also if you would please not use bad words on this site
Thanks
Waketech
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I see a couple of you guys are crazy haha. I had 100% post rate for a while, but it hit a point where it no longer done anything for me. That, and I didnt have enough time to post to really make any relationships with anyone, like many do. But, in thruhiking there's a saying to hike your own hike, well that's what I did with quitting. I quit my own quit. However, this site helped through the most difficult first 20 or so days. This is why I came back to offer my number, since I feel I could help a new quitter.
BTW- My life is harder now than before, trust me haha. Just happy to be quit and making better choices.
Sincerely,
Wake tech's boyfriend 'arse'
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I see a couple of you guys are crazy haha. I had 100% post rate for a while, but it hit a point where it no longer done anything for me. That, and I didnt have enough time to post to really make any relationships with anyone, like many do. But, in thruhiking there's a saying to hike your own hike, well that's what I did with quitting. I quit my own quit. However, this site helped through the most difficult first 20 or so days. This is why I came back to offer my number, since I feel I could help a new quitter.
BTW- My life is harder now than before, trust me haha. Just happy to be quit and making better choices.
Sincerely,
Wake tech's boyfriend 'arse'
Well done no matter what, be true to you and stay quit. As CBird65, told me when I joined, It's an open forum, take what you need and leave the rest. It's only about the quit.
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I see a couple of you guys are crazy haha. I had 100% post rate for a while, but it hit a point where it no longer done anything for me. That, and I didnt have enough time to post to really make any relationships with anyone, like many do. But, in thruhiking there's a saying to hike your own hike, well that's what I did with quitting. I quit my own quit. However, this site helped through the most difficult first 20 or so days. This is why I came back to offer my number, since I feel I could help a new quitter.
BTW- My life is harder now than before, trust me haha. Just happy to be quit and making better choices.
Sincerely,
Wake tech's boyfriend 'arse'
Well done no matter what, be true to you and stay quit. As CBird65, told me when I joined, It's an open forum, take what you need and leave the rest. It's only about the quit.
So, if you don't have time to come here and post roll, how do we know that you'll have time to help out those new quitters that stumble upon this to do it the "MCR way"?
What is the "MCR way"?
'Popcorn'
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I see a couple of you guys are crazy haha. I had 100% post rate for a while, but it hit a point where it no longer done anything for me. That, and I didnt have enough time to post to really make any relationships with anyone, like many do. But, in thruhiking there's a saying to hike your own hike, well that's what I did with quitting. I quit my own quit. However, this site helped through the most difficult first 20 or so days. This is why I came back to offer my number, since I feel I could help a new quitter.
BTW- My life is harder now than before, trust me haha. Just happy to be quit and making better choices.
Sincerely,
Wake tech's boyfriend 'arse'
Well done no matter what, be true to you and stay quit. As CBird65, told me when I joined, It's an open forum, take what you need and leave the rest. It's only about the quit.
So, if you don't have time to come here and post roll, how do we know that you'll have time to help out those new quitters that stumble upon this to do it the "MCR way"?
What is the "MCR way"?
'Popcorn'
Q: Why are KTC quitters so damn inflexible?
It usually goes something like this: “Hey guys, Scowick here, just had a 2nd kid and I promised my wife I would quit with my first child. So, anyway I posted for 20 days, blah, blah, blah."
Kaaabooom! The flames of hell burn.
Q: Why are KTC quitters so damn inflexible?
A: Addiction is inflexible.
The Law of Addiction States, “The administration of a drug to a drug addict will reestablish dependence on that drug.” We did not write the law. We do not execute the law. We simply know the law. This means, by using nicotine once, the user either reverts to full-fledged use or must go through the full withdrawal process associated with quitting. Most do not opt for the withdrawal. Withdrawal sux.
I know, this inflexibility is incongruent with our American culture ~ “I'd like the pie heated and I don't want the ice cream on top, I want it on the side, and I'd like strawberry instead of vanilla if you have it, if not then no ice cream just whipped cream but only if it's real; if it's out of the can then nothing.”
“Not even the pie”?
“No, I want the pie, just not heated”.
Here, at KTC, the quit plan is not tweaked for unique and special butterflies. We butterflies conform to the plan. Why? Because our addiction will not conform. Our addiction is unyielding.
~ Sco
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I see a couple of you guys are crazy haha. I had 100% post rate for a while, but it hit a point where it no longer done anything for me. That, and I didnt have enough time to post to really make any relationships with anyone, like many do. But, in thruhiking there's a saying to hike your own hike, well that's what I did with quitting. I quit my own quit. However, this site helped through the most difficult first 20 or so days. This is why I came back to offer my number, since I feel I could help a new quitter.
BTW- My life is harder now than before, trust me haha. Just happy to be quit and making better choices.
Sincerely,
Wake tech's boyfriend 'arse'
Yeah, we are "crazy". Stfu.
You are clueless. You THINK you are helping, but your really not. And you know what, personally I don't have a huge problem if you don't want to help. Just don't front like you are.
Don't come in here and shit on our floor by telling us posting role really didn't do anything for you and you didn't have time to do it and build relationships. Wtf is that bullshit? What do you think a new quitter might think when he reads that shit?
What exactly have you been doing where you are soooooo busy you can't take a minute or two a day to post roll or encourage a few guys who might be struggling?
You offer up your phone number every 3 months...great. what if your "too busy" to help someone in need out? What, you have time to help people by phone but not on here? What if 15 newbs take you up on your offer and get your number...and say 7 or 8 are REAAALLLYYY struggling and reaching out to you on a daily basis? Will you have time to help them, or will be be so busy splitting the atom, curing cancer, and bringing about world peace
that you will get back to them in 3 months?
You're a walking contradiction.
You want to hike your own hike, that's cool. Just walk it alone and don't front like you want to help others learn to hike.
You can't be a little bit pregnant, and you can't be a little bit committed to helping people kick an addiction as brutal as this one.
We aren't crazy, we're committed.
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I came in and shit on "your" floor by saying I'm over 100 quit, cold-turkey, no BS? I think you guys shit on my thread, actually. Thanks to a few! And you other oversensitive pussies (see: wake and diesel) can suck a dick. K thanks!
Also, if you dont want to read/discuss my quit then fuck off. I don't care about what your feelings are on my roll posting habits.
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I came in and shit on "your" floor by saying I'm over 100 quit, cold-turkey, no BS? I think you guys shit on my thread, actually. Thanks to a few! And you other oversensitive pussies (see: wake and diesel) can suck a dick. K thanks!
Also, if you dont want to read/discuss my quit then fuck off. I don't care about what your feelings are on my roll posting habits.
Will you have my back in my quit?
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I came in and shit on "your" floor by saying I'm over 100 quit, cold-turkey, no BS? I think you guys shit on my thread, actually. Thanks to a few! And you other oversensitive pussies (see: wake and diesel) can suck a dick. K thanks!
Also, if you dont want to read/discuss my quit then fuck off. I don't care about what your feelings are on my roll posting habits.
Way to miss the point and not talk about any of the points I/we made.
"You don't care"...exactly my point.
I'm glad you're quit. I honestly am. But you really dont provide anything here. You're quarterly updates dont do dick for anybody and since you're sooooo busy, how about you just stop popping in like you're some hero and carry on with your busy life. Honestly, nobody here would even know the difference.
And while you're at it, go fuck yourself. You did shit on our floor. If you were here I'd rub your face in it like a bad dog.
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I came in and shit on "your" floor by saying I'm over 100 quit, cold-turkey, no BS? I think you guys shit on my thread, actually. Thanks to a few! And you other oversensitive pussies (see: wake and diesel) can suck a dick. K thanks!
Also, if you dont want to read/discuss my quit then fuck off. I don't care about what your feelings are on my roll posting habits.
Way to miss the point and not talk about any of the points I/we made.
"You don't care"...exactly my point.
I'm glad you're quit. I honestly am. But you really dont provide anything here. You're quarterly updates dont do dick for anybody and since you're sooooo busy, how about you just stop popping in like you're some hero and carry on with your busy life. Honestly, nobody here would even know the difference.
And while you're at it, go fuck yourself. You did shit on our floor. If you were here I'd rub your face in it like a bad dog.
This is the first time I've "popped" in. You have some big e-balls buddy. The fact is youre a pussy, who's ass id whip if you came at me like this. And the only point made is you guys continuously saying "YOU QUIT WRONG! YOU QUIT WRONG!" in varying ways. And yeah, quitting sucks, and id like to pay it forward by offering another number for dudes to call for encouragement.
Thats it, if you look back all I said was 1. Im quit 2. Its led to good things 3. Any newbs need a quitter to call, then my number is available.
Nothing more. Never said I was a hero or anything about roll. I dont claim to have done it right or wrong or whatever. I just did what I needed to quit.
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Hey fellas, hope everyone's quit is going good. I just thought I would jump on and give an update on the quit! Luckily, I'm still quit for 102 in real life. However, my dream self still struggles often with skoal wintergreen haha.
My quit has opened up a lot of changes for me. I'm taking care of myself better overall, started running, and picking up new habits/hobbies (reading, codinglol) and actually sticking with it by taking it bit by bit and a day at a time. Definitely something I learned here and on my quit.
Anyway, its good stuff. If anyone needs a quitter to get or stay quit with just yell at me and I'll send you my number.
Glad things are going well and on the up and up. All the power to you. But if you're gonna post updates then post roll. We all do it so you can too.
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I came in and shit on "your" floor by saying I'm over 100 quit, cold-turkey, no BS? I think you guys shit on my thread, actually. Thanks to a few! And you other oversensitive pussies (see: wake and diesel) can suck a dick. K thanks!
Also, if you dont want to read/discuss my quit then fuck off. I don't care about what your feelings are on my roll posting habits.
Will you have my back in my quit?
Yes! Pm me if you really want my number, and you can call or text anytime at all.
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http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/ ... horman.gif (http://gifrific.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/Boy-That-Escalated-Quickly-Anchorman.gif)
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I came in and shit on "your" floor by saying I'm over 100 quit, cold-turkey, no BS? I think you guys shit on my thread, actually. Thanks to a few! And you other oversensitive pussies (see: wake and diesel) can suck a dick. K thanks!
Also, if you dont want to read/discuss my quit then fuck off. I don't care about what your feelings are on my roll posting habits.
Way to miss the point and not talk about any of the points I/we made.
"You don't care"...exactly my point.
I'm glad you're quit. I honestly am. But you really dont provide anything here. You're quarterly updates dont do dick for anybody and since you're sooooo busy, how about you just stop popping in like you're some hero and carry on with your busy life. Honestly, nobody here would even know the difference.
And while you're at it, go fuck yourself. You did shit on our floor. If you were here I'd rub your face in it like a bad dog.
This is the first time I've "popped" in. You have some big e-balls buddy. The fact is youre a pussy, who's ass id whip if you came at me like this. And the only point made is you guys continuously saying "YOU QUIT WRONG! YOU QUIT WRONG!" in varying ways. And yeah, quitting sucks, and id like to pay it forward by offering another number for dudes to call for encouragement.
Thats it, if you look back all I said was 1. Im quit 2. Its led to good things 3. Any newbs need a quitter to call, then my number is available.
Nothing more. Never said I was a hero or anything about roll. I dont claim to have done it right or wrong or whatever. I just did what I needed to quit.
Nobody said you quit wrong. In fact you quit right. But you did say you didn't find roll did anything for you so you stopped.
Again, you're a contradiction.
Also you said you didn't have time to post roll and build relationships. Dude...that is the backbone of this site.
Again, you're a contradiction.
Also my balls are real. Ask your girl.
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I came in and shit on "your" floor by saying I'm over 100 quit, cold-turkey, no BS? I think you guys shit on my thread, actually. Thanks to a few! And you other oversensitive pussies (see: wake and diesel) can suck a dick. K thanks!
Also, if you dont want to read/discuss my quit then fuck off. I don't care about what your feelings are on my roll posting habits.
Way to miss the point and not talk about any of the points I/we made.
"You don't care"...exactly my point.
I'm glad you're quit. I honestly am. But you really dont provide anything here. You're quarterly updates dont do dick for anybody and since you're sooooo busy, how about you just stop popping in like you're some hero and carry on with your busy life. Honestly, nobody here would even know the difference.
And while you're at it, go fuck yourself. You did shit on our floor. If you were here I'd rub your face in it like a bad dog.
This is the first time I've "popped" in. You have some big e-balls buddy. The fact is youre a pussy, who's ass id whip if you came at me like this. And the only point made is you guys continuously saying "YOU QUIT WRONG! YOU QUIT WRONG!" in varying ways. And yeah, quitting sucks, and id like to pay it forward by offering another number for dudes to call for encouragement.
Thats it, if you look back all I said was 1. Im quit 2. Its led to good things 3. Any newbs need a quitter to call, then my number is available.
Nothing more. Never said I was a hero or anything about roll. I dont claim to have done it right or wrong or whatever. I just did what I needed to quit.
Nobody said you quit wrong. In fact you quit right. But you did say you didn't find roll did anything for you so you stopped.
Again, you're a contradiction.
Also you said you didn't have time to post roll and build relationships. Dude...that is the backbone of this site.
Again, you're a contradiction.
Also my balls are real. Ask your girl.
Wives/girlfriends/kids/family members are off limits. Leave them out of it
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I came in and shit on "your" floor by saying I'm over 100 quit, cold-turkey, no BS? I think you guys shit on my thread, actually. Thanks to a few! And you other oversensitive pussies (see: wake and diesel) can suck a dick. K thanks!
Also, if you dont want to read/discuss my quit then fuck off. I don't care about what your feelings are on my roll posting habits.
Will you have my back in my quit?
Yes! Pm me if you really want my number, and you can call or text anytime at all.
I'm trusting you.
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My flowchart. Feel free to steal it. (http://jpeghoster.com/images/03476983507140053293.jpg)
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I came in and shit on "your" floor by saying I'm over 100 quit, cold-turkey, no BS? I think you guys shit on my thread, actually. Thanks to a few! And you other oversensitive pussies (see: wake and diesel) can suck a dick. K thanks!
Also, if you dont want to read/discuss my quit then fuck off. I don't care about what your feelings are on my roll posting habits.
Way to miss the point and not talk about any of the points I/we made.
"You don't care"...exactly my point.
I'm glad you're quit. I honestly am. But you really dont provide anything here. You're quarterly updates dont do dick for anybody and since you're sooooo busy, how about you just stop popping in like you're some hero and carry on with your busy life. Honestly, nobody here would even know the difference.
And while you're at it, go fuck yourself. You did shit on our floor. If you were here I'd rub your face in it like a bad dog.
This is the first time I've "popped" in. You have some big e-balls buddy. The fact is youre a pussy, who's ass id whip if you came at me like this. And the only point made is you guys continuously saying "YOU QUIT WRONG! YOU QUIT WRONG!" in varying ways. And yeah, quitting sucks, and id like to pay it forward by offering another number for dudes to call for encouragement.
Thats it, if you look back all I said was 1. Im quit 2. Its led to good things 3. Any newbs need a quitter to call, then my number is available.
Nothing more. Never said I was a hero or anything about roll. I dont claim to have done it right or wrong or whatever. I just did what I needed to quit.
Nobody said you quit wrong. In fact you quit right. But you did say you didn't find roll did anything for you so you stopped.
Again, you're a contradiction.
Also you said you didn't have time to post roll and build relationships. Dude...that is the backbone of this site.
Again, you're a contradiction.
Also my balls are real. Ask your girl.
Whatever you say, mccollom. Keep my family out of your vocabulary and go take your xanax.
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Read this. index.php?showtopic=120 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=120)
You own your quit and you can quit any way you want, but if you choose to quit here you will post roll. Then you can talk shit, offer digits or call me a douche. I don't care. If you choose not to post roll, fine. Just haul ass. It's simple.
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My flowchart. Feel free to steal it. (http://jpeghoster.com/images/03476983507140053293.jpg)
Waste, I dig it. KISS. Keep It Simple Stupid. I will steal that flow sheet. As for the rest of this thread, I feel retarded for having read it.
The dude is quit. I see no need to dog him. He has harmed no one else's quit. I read something on that home page that sounds like this.
Why It Works
"There are many different ways to quit smokeless tobacco. We are certainly not here to tell you that our way is the only way (and in fact this site is dedicated to ALL methods to get people to quit chewing tobacco). The one thing that we all agree on is that one of the best tools available to a new quitter is community. Quitting is difficult... quitting by yourself is even moreso. The information that is available on this site is your first tool. Reading about your addiction, how it affects you and methods to quit are very important. We feel that being accountable to OTHER people is of paramount importance to a successful quit."[/B][/I]
Now this does stress the site's strong opinion on the importance of community, HOWEVER it first says there are many ways to quit. Don't dog the guy for quitting his way. That is just my 2 cents.
I am certain that this site helped this gentlemen tremendously. The knowledge contained therein is undeniably helpful to all quitters and potential quitters. If someone doesnt buy into posting roll it doesn't make them an asshole, or selfish, or anything really. Just a guy with a different opinion.
If someone feels compelled to post a warning about the dangers of quitting "lone ranger" style than do so in a words of wisdom post or something?
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Read this. index.php?showtopic=120 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=120)
You own your quit and you can quit any way you want, but if you choose to quit here you will post roll. Then you can talk shit, offer digits or call me a douche. I don't care. If you choose not to post roll, fine. Just haul ass. It's simple.
Got it, I'll kick rocks. Keep up the quit.
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My flowchart. Feel free to steal it. (http://jpeghoster.com/images/03476983507140053293.jpg)
Waste, I dig it. KISS. Keep It Simple Stupid. I will steal that flow sheet. As for the rest of this thread, I feel retarded for having read it.
The dude is quit. I see no need to dog him. He has harmed no one else's quit. I read something on that home page that sounds like this.
Why It Works
"There are many different ways to quit smokeless tobacco. We are certainly not here to tell you that our way is the only way (and in fact this site is dedicated to ALL methods to get people to quit chewing tobacco). The one thing that we all agree on is that one of the best tools available to a new quitter is community. Quitting is difficult... quitting by yourself is even moreso. The information that is available on this site is your first tool. Reading about your addiction, how it affects you and methods to quit are very important. We feel that being accountable to OTHER people is of paramount importance to a successful quit."[/B][/I]
Now this does stress the site's strong opinion on the importance of community, HOWEVER it first says there are many ways to quit. Don't dog the guy for quitting his way. That is just my 2 cents.
I am certain that this site helped this gentlemen tremendously. The knowledge contained therein is undeniably helpful to all quitters and potential quitters. If someone doesnt buy into posting roll it doesn't make them an asshole, or selfish, or anything really. Just a guy with a different opinion.
If someone feels compelled to post a warning about the dangers of quitting "lone ranger" style than do so in a words of wisdom post or something?
What im sayin'. you say it better though
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My flowchart. Feel free to steal it. (http://jpeghoster.com/images/03476983507140053293.jpg)
Waste, I dig it. KISS. Keep It Simple Stupid. I will steal that flow sheet. As for the rest of this thread, I feel retarded for having read it.
The dude is quit. I see no need to dog him. He has harmed no one else's quit. I read something on that home page that sounds like this.
Why It Works
"There are many different ways to quit smokeless tobacco. We are certainly not here to tell you that our way is the only way (and in fact this site is dedicated to ALL methods to get people to quit chewing tobacco). The one thing that we all agree on is that one of the best tools available to a new quitter is community. Quitting is difficult... quitting by yourself is even moreso. The information that is available on this site is your first tool. Reading about your addiction, how it affects you and methods to quit are very important. We feel that being accountable to OTHER people is of paramount importance to a successful quit."[/B][/I]
Now this does stress the site's strong opinion on the importance of community, HOWEVER it first says there are many ways to quit. Don't dog the guy for quitting his way. That is just my 2 cents.
I am certain that this site helped this gentlemen tremendously. The knowledge contained therein is undeniably helpful to all quitters and potential quitters. If someone doesnt buy into posting roll it doesn't make them an asshole, or selfish, or anything really. Just a guy with a different opinion.
If someone feels compelled to post a warning about the dangers of quitting "lone ranger" style than do so in a words of wisdom post or something?
I'll add in one more thing:
My words at 6 months quit:
So, this is 6 months quit...
I really thought CNC, Moe, and myself were clear that being a retread is not all the fun and games people make it out to be. We screamed how important it is to post roll everyday. We've practiced it for close to 200 days now. Yet, the basterds keep falling off roll one by one.
It pisses me off because I fell off the posting wagon early in 2007. I stopped posting around 150 days in that stoppage. I didn't cave right away. I was "quit"!
In the next 850 plus days, my brain began ridding itself of my addict thoughts. It started with the nicotine cravings and ended with the tools I learned that kept me quit. The greatest lie ever is an addict convincing himself he's cured.
I never planned caved. I got drunk, and I asked to bum one off of my friend. It was that simple. No warning lights went off. I hadn't even thought about the site in quite a while. I said "That sounds good" and I was off. I didn't feel bad afterwards either. It was gross, and I spit it out fairly quickly.
I did not think about it again for about a week. Unfortunately, I started a timer in my body that was going to lead to it returning to a dependent state.
The next week, the nic bitch was in my ear.
Scott....you're the man. You used to chew all the time. Not anymore. Hell, you chewed last week with no cravings or thoughts of it until now. It's true. You can't get re-addicted with just one. In fact...I bet you could chew with your friends now. Just don't buy a can...
So I did.
Everytime I saw my friends, I was chewing again. Until they got pissed over all the bumming I was doing...
Scott...It's not fair these guys have to give up their hard earned money all the time. Would you be happy if they kept coming over and drinking your beer? Just buy a can and toss it afterwards. Kara will never know...
So I did.
I bought a can for $4.50 everytime I went out with my friends (or I was drinking and my wife wasn't around). I would have 3-4 chews a night on these occasions (1 night a week) for the next month or so. At first, I'd toss the can the moment I got in the car. Gradually, it was as I was pulling into my neighborhood.
Until one day...
Scott...Are you really going to waste that? You have a good $3.00 worth of chew. You can keep it in your car and just get out when you're going out with your friends. That's just being thrifty, man. You're strong, and it's not like you're re-addicted....
So I did.
I put the can in the glove compartment and would forget about it until I was going out (until tax season started though). Tax season sucks. You give up 3 good months of your life and everybody in it. I was working much more, and my stress level was through the roof. One night, as I was coming home from work at 1:30 am, my can beckoned me.
Scott...I can relax you. You still reach for me out of habit when you get stuck on a tax return. I've always been there to help you out, and I'm willing to do it again. As long as you're not chewing at home, you're fine. That's how you can stay control of me, ok?
So I did.
By March of 2010, I was back to chewing as much as I could. I didn't see my wife that often, and would sneak downstairs to "work on taxes". When I did see her, we were in bed, waking up from the bed, or eating a meal.
I was chewing all day long, but I wasn't re-addicted. Nope...I was in control.
Yet I had started chewing at home because I wanted to.
I didn't care anymore. I liked chewing. It relaxed me. It made me a better worker. It took the edge off. And I was dreading April 15 because it meant I was going to have to be home more and I could not go an entire evening without chewing.
My wife had just cleaned the kitchen floor. I had been putting in chews over the garbage can to assure there was no sprinkles on the floor. I missed that day. She grabbed a napkin, and started picking it up. She looked at it, and asked me if I had anything I wanted to tell her. I told her I started chewing again. It felt great to be free.
She was pissed.
I didn't care. I now had an excuse to chew all day long, everyday. No fucking hiding it. No pretending that I'm quit. Just cancer weed all day long.
It took me from October 25, 2009 to March 2010 for this process to complete. It wasn't overnight. It was a series of compromises I made with myself. I never craved initially. I never thought about the negative consequences or the board. It was a sneaky process, but deep down I knew. I knew the path I was on.
I am 184 days quit today. I have yet to miss a roll call.
That was my promise to myself when I returned. I forgot everything last time because I stopped posting roll. I stopped reminding myself how bad I was beforehand, and I stopped soiling nicotine's name. I forgot.
I will never forget again because I don't want to fucking do this again. There's way too good of a life that exists outside of a physically addicted state. I can run around with my boys. I don't have to explain what "Skoal Straight" is to a 7 year old. I don't have sneak a chew in before coaching his tee ball team. I don't have to pre-plan to kiss my wife. My temperature doesn't go up to 175 degrees the moment I am done eating. I don't wake up with that shit on my face. My shower doesn't clog because I 've spit a wad into the drain. Clients don't give me wierd looks when they realize I am, in fact, sporting a fatty in a meeting.
I give 30 seconds each morning for that freedom. There are no compromises on that. A cave is a compromise wrapped in lies. The rules are simple:
(1) Post roll.
(2) Stay quit.
(3) Repeat.
Please tell me where there is room to compromise in there. If you skip step 1, then are you supposed to skip it all the time since step 3 is "repeat"? How long until you start skipping step 2? 850 days?
Best.Return On Investment.Ever.
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My flowchart. Feel free to steal it. (http://jpeghoster.com/images/03476983507140053293.jpg)
Waste, I dig it. KISS. Keep It Simple Stupid. I will steal that flow sheet. As for the rest of this thread, I feel retarded for having read it.
The dude is quit. I see no need to dog him. He has harmed no one else's quit. I read something on that home page that sounds like this.
Why It Works
"There are many different ways to quit smokeless tobacco. We are certainly not here to tell you that our way is the only way (and in fact this site is dedicated to ALL methods to get people to quit chewing tobacco). The one thing that we all agree on is that one of the best tools available to a new quitter is community. Quitting is difficult... quitting by yourself is even moreso. The information that is available on this site is your first tool. Reading about your addiction, how it affects you and methods to quit are very important. We feel that being accountable to OTHER people is of paramount importance to a successful quit."[/B][/I]
Now this does stress the site's strong opinion on the importance of community, HOWEVER it first says there are many ways to quit. Don't dog the guy for quitting his way. That is just my 2 cents.
I am certain that this site helped this gentlemen tremendously. The knowledge contained therein is undeniably helpful to all quitters and potential quitters. If someone doesnt buy into posting roll it doesn't make them an asshole, or selfish, or anything really. Just a guy with a different opinion.
If someone feels compelled to post a warning about the dangers of quitting "lone ranger" style than do so in a words of wisdom post or something?
I'll add in one more thing:
My words at 6 months quit:
So, this is 6 months quit...
I really thought CNC, Moe, and myself were clear that being a retread is not all the fun and games people make it out to be. We screamed how important it is to post roll everyday. We've practiced it for close to 200 days now. Yet, the basterds keep falling off roll one by one.
It pisses me off because I fell off the posting wagon early in 2007. I stopped posting around 150 days in that stoppage. I didn't cave right away. I was "quit"!
In the next 850 plus days, my brain began ridding itself of my addict thoughts. It started with the nicotine cravings and ended with the tools I learned that kept me quit. The greatest lie ever is an addict convincing himself he's cured.
I never planned caved. I got drunk, and I asked to bum one off of my friend. It was that simple. No warning lights went off. I hadn't even thought about the site in quite a while. I said "That sounds good" and I was off. I didn't feel bad afterwards either. It was gross, and I spit it out fairly quickly.
I did not think about it again for about a week. Unfortunately, I started a timer in my body that was going to lead to it returning to a dependent state.
The next week, the nic bitch was in my ear.
Scott....you're the man. You used to chew all the time. Not anymore. Hell, you chewed last week with no cravings or thoughts of it until now. It's true. You can't get re-addicted with just one. In fact...I bet you could chew with your friends now. Just don't buy a can...
So I did.
Everytime I saw my friends, I was chewing again. Until they got pissed over all the bumming I was doing...
Scott...It's not fair these guys have to give up their hard earned money all the time. Would you be happy if they kept coming over and drinking your beer? Just buy a can and toss it afterwards. Kara will never know...
So I did.
I bought a can for $4.50 everytime I went out with my friends (or I was drinking and my wife wasn't around). I would have 3-4 chews a night on these occasions (1 night a week) for the next month or so. At first, I'd toss the can the moment I got in the car. Gradually, it was as I was pulling into my neighborhood.
Until one day...
Scott...Are you really going to waste that? You have a good $3.00 worth of chew. You can keep it in your car and just get out when you're going out with your friends. That's just being thrifty, man. You're strong, and it's not like you're re-addicted....
So I did.
I put the can in the glove compartment and would forget about it until I was going out (until tax season started though). Tax season sucks. You give up 3 good months of your life and everybody in it. I was working much more, and my stress level was through the roof. One night, as I was coming home from work at 1:30 am, my can beckoned me.
Scott...I can relax you. You still reach for me out of habit when you get stuck on a tax return. I've always been there to help you out, and I'm willing to do it again. As long as you're not chewing at home, you're fine. That's how you can stay control of me, ok?
So I did.
By March of 2010, I was back to chewing as much as I could. I didn't see my wife that often, and would sneak downstairs to "work on taxes". When I did see her, we were in bed, waking up from the bed, or eating a meal.
I was chewing all day long, but I wasn't re-addicted. Nope...I was in control.
Yet I had started chewing at home because I wanted to.
I didn't care anymore. I liked chewing. It relaxed me. It made me a better worker. It took the edge off. And I was dreading April 15 because it meant I was going to have to be home more and I could not go an entire evening without chewing.
My wife had just cleaned the kitchen floor. I had been putting in chews over the garbage can to assure there was no sprinkles on the floor. I missed that day. She grabbed a napkin, and started picking it up. She looked at it, and asked me if I had anything I wanted to tell her. I told her I started chewing again. It felt great to be free.
She was pissed.
I didn't care. I now had an excuse to chew all day long, everyday. No fucking hiding it. No pretending that I'm quit. Just cancer weed all day long.
It took me from October 25, 2009 to March 2010 for this process to complete. It wasn't overnight. It was a series of compromises I made with myself. I never craved initially. I never thought about the negative consequences or the board. It was a sneaky process, but deep down I knew. I knew the path I was on.
I am 184 days quit today. I have yet to miss a roll call.
That was my promise to myself when I returned. I forgot everything last time because I stopped posting roll. I stopped reminding myself how bad I was beforehand, and I stopped soiling nicotine's name. I forgot.
I will never forget again because I don't want to fucking do this again. There's way too good of a life that exists outside of a physically addicted state. I can run around with my boys. I don't have to explain what "Skoal Straight" is to a 7 year old. I don't have sneak a chew in before coaching his tee ball team. I don't have to pre-plan to kiss my wife. My temperature doesn't go up to 175 degrees the moment I am done eating. I don't wake up with that shit on my face. My shower doesn't clog because I 've spit a wad into the drain. Clients don't give me wierd looks when they realize I am, in fact, sporting a fatty in a meeting.
I give 30 seconds each morning for that freedom. There are no compromises on that. A cave is a compromise wrapped in lies. The rules are simple:
(1) Post roll.
(2) Stay quit.
(3) Repeat.
Please tell me where there is room to compromise in there. If you skip step 1, then are you supposed to skip it all the time since step 3 is "repeat"? How long until you start skipping step 2? 850 days?
Best.Return On Investment.Ever.
Waste, thanks for re-posting this story. I wish I did not have to post role everyday, but when I first read this it helped me to understand why I must. Seeing the story again tonight, strengthens my resolve. This quit is too damn important to leave anything to chance. This is truly a matter of life and death. Role is a tool that is available to me. It is easy and it is effective. It would be foolish for me to proceed without it.
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My flowchart. Feel free to steal it. (http://jpeghoster.com/images/03476983507140053293.jpg)
Waste, I dig it. KISS. Keep It Simple Stupid. I will steal that flow sheet. As for the rest of this thread, I feel retarded for having read it.
The dude is quit. I see no need to dog him. He has harmed no one else's quit. I read something on that home page that sounds like this.
Why It Works
"There are many different ways to quit smokeless tobacco. We are certainly not here to tell you that our way is the only way (and in fact this site is dedicated to ALL methods to get people to quit chewing tobacco). The one thing that we all agree on is that one of the best tools available to a new quitter is community. Quitting is difficult... quitting by yourself is even moreso. The information that is available on this site is your first tool. Reading about your addiction, how it affects you and methods to quit are very important. We feel that being accountable to OTHER people is of paramount importance to a successful quit."[/B][/I]
Now this does stress the site's strong opinion on the importance of community, HOWEVER it first says there are many ways to quit. Don't dog the guy for quitting his way. That is just my 2 cents.
I am certain that this site helped this gentlemen tremendously. The knowledge contained therein is undeniably helpful to all quitters and potential quitters. If someone doesnt buy into posting roll it doesn't make them an asshole, or selfish, or anything really. Just a guy with a different opinion.
If someone feels compelled to post a warning about the dangers of quitting "lone ranger" style than do so in a words of wisdom post or something?
I'll add in one more thing:
My words at 6 months quit:
So, this is 6 months quit...
I really thought CNC, Moe, and myself were clear that being a retread is not all the fun and games people make it out to be. We screamed how important it is to post roll everyday. We've practiced it for close to 200 days now. Yet, the basterds keep falling off roll one by one.
It pisses me off because I fell off the posting wagon early in 2007. I stopped posting around 150 days in that stoppage. I didn't cave right away. I was "quit"!
In the next 850 plus days, my brain began ridding itself of my addict thoughts. It started with the nicotine cravings and ended with the tools I learned that kept me quit. The greatest lie ever is an addict convincing himself he's cured.
I never planned caved. I got drunk, and I asked to bum one off of my friend. It was that simple. No warning lights went off. I hadn't even thought about the site in quite a while. I said "That sounds good" and I was off. I didn't feel bad afterwards either. It was gross, and I spit it out fairly quickly.
I did not think about it again for about a week. Unfortunately, I started a timer in my body that was going to lead to it returning to a dependent state.
The next week, the nic bitch was in my ear.
Scott....you're the man. You used to chew all the time. Not anymore. Hell, you chewed last week with no cravings or thoughts of it until now. It's true. You can't get re-addicted with just one. In fact...I bet you could chew with your friends now. Just don't buy a can...
So I did.
Everytime I saw my friends, I was chewing again. Until they got pissed over all the bumming I was doing...
Scott...It's not fair these guys have to give up their hard earned money all the time. Would you be happy if they kept coming over and drinking your beer? Just buy a can and toss it afterwards. Kara will never know...
So I did.
I bought a can for $4.50 everytime I went out with my friends (or I was drinking and my wife wasn't around). I would have 3-4 chews a night on these occasions (1 night a week) for the next month or so. At first, I'd toss the can the moment I got in the car. Gradually, it was as I was pulling into my neighborhood.
Until one day...
Scott...Are you really going to waste that? You have a good $3.00 worth of chew. You can keep it in your car and just get out when you're going out with your friends. That's just being thrifty, man. You're strong, and it's not like you're re-addicted....
So I did.
I put the can in the glove compartment and would forget about it until I was going out (until tax season started though). Tax season sucks. You give up 3 good months of your life and everybody in it. I was working much more, and my stress level was through the roof. One night, as I was coming home from work at 1:30 am, my can beckoned me.
Scott...I can relax you. You still reach for me out of habit when you get stuck on a tax return. I've always been there to help you out, and I'm willing to do it again. As long as you're not chewing at home, you're fine. That's how you can stay control of me, ok?
So I did.
By March of 2010, I was back to chewing as much as I could. I didn't see my wife that often, and would sneak downstairs to "work on taxes". When I did see her, we were in bed, waking up from the bed, or eating a meal.
I was chewing all day long, but I wasn't re-addicted. Nope...I was in control.
Yet I had started chewing at home because I wanted to.
I didn't care anymore. I liked chewing. It relaxed me. It made me a better worker. It took the edge off. And I was dreading April 15 because it meant I was going to have to be home more and I could not go an entire evening without chewing.
My wife had just cleaned the kitchen floor. I had been putting in chews over the garbage can to assure there was no sprinkles on the floor. I missed that day. She grabbed a napkin, and started picking it up. She looked at it, and asked me if I had anything I wanted to tell her. I told her I started chewing again. It felt great to be free.
She was pissed.
I didn't care. I now had an excuse to chew all day long, everyday. No fucking hiding it. No pretending that I'm quit. Just cancer weed all day long.
It took me from October 25, 2009 to March 2010 for this process to complete. It wasn't overnight. It was a series of compromises I made with myself. I never craved initially. I never thought about the negative consequences or the board. It was a sneaky process, but deep down I knew. I knew the path I was on.
I am 184 days quit today. I have yet to miss a roll call.
That was my promise to myself when I returned. I forgot everything last time because I stopped posting roll. I stopped reminding myself how bad I was beforehand, and I stopped soiling nicotine's name. I forgot.
I will never forget again because I don't want to fucking do this again. There's way too good of a life that exists outside of a physically addicted state. I can run around with my boys. I don't have to explain what "Skoal Straight" is to a 7 year old. I don't have sneak a chew in before coaching his tee ball team. I don't have to pre-plan to kiss my wife. My temperature doesn't go up to 175 degrees the moment I am done eating. I don't wake up with that shit on my face. My shower doesn't clog because I 've spit a wad into the drain. Clients don't give me wierd looks when they realize I am, in fact, sporting a fatty in a meeting.
I give 30 seconds each morning for that freedom. There are no compromises on that. A cave is a compromise wrapped in lies. The rules are simple:
(1) Post roll.
(2) Stay quit.
(3) Repeat.
Please tell me where there is room to compromise in there. If you skip step 1, then are you supposed to skip it all the time since step 3 is "repeat"? How long until you start skipping step 2? 850 days?
Best.Return On Investment.Ever.
I see what you're saying. I post roll everyday to my wife and son. And you know, like I told you a few min ago, my wife quit smoking after she seen me stick with it. looking back it was about when I quit roll. Thats probably why. But, if I can help lead other people to quit by posting roll, then maybe I should. Cant hurt right?
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Sorry MCR, I want to bring up another point.
Again I want to say nice job as yes you are quit, but please realize that the way you popped in and announced your 'celebration' by doing it on your own can be taken almost as an insult.
There are some on the site who are having the toughest of times throughout their quit, they have gotten prescriptions for anxiety medications, or depression meds, and get in here and post every day. They fight this tooth and nail and need all the help and support that they get a hold of.
I would just ask for the sake of others just to be careful as to the wording when you come on in and post in your thread. And I think that those who are speaking out here in your thread have a similar thought when they saw your original post from today.
Stay Strong and Stay Quit, I will be right beside you.
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I came in and shit on "your" floor by saying I'm over 100 quit, cold-turkey, no BS? I think you guys shit on my thread, actually. Thanks to a few! And you other oversensitive pussies (see: wake and diesel) can suck a dick. K thanks!
Also, if you dont want to read/discuss my quit then fuck off. I don't care about what your feelings are on my roll posting habits.
Way to miss the point and not talk about any of the points I/we made.
"You don't care"...exactly my point.
I'm glad you're quit. I honestly am. But you really dont provide anything here. You're quarterly updates dont do dick for anybody and since you're sooooo busy, how about you just stop popping in like you're some hero and carry on with your busy life. Honestly, nobody here would even know the difference.
And while you're at it, go fuck yourself. You did shit on our floor. If you were here I'd rub your face in it like a bad dog.
This is the first time I've "popped" in. You have some big e-balls buddy. The fact is youre a pussy, who's ass id whip if you came at me like this. And the only point made is you guys continuously saying "YOU QUIT WRONG! YOU QUIT WRONG!" in varying ways. And yeah, quitting sucks, and id like to pay it forward by offering another number for dudes to call for encouragement.
Thats it, if you look back all I said was 1. Im quit 2. Its led to good things 3. Any newbs need a quitter to call, then my number is available.
Nothing more. Never said I was a hero or anything about roll. I dont claim to have done it right or wrong or whatever. I just did what I needed to quit.
Nobody said you quit wrong. In fact you quit right. But you did say you didn't find roll did anything for you so you stopped.
Again, you're a contradiction.
Also you said you didn't have time to post roll and build relationships. Dude...that is the backbone of this site.
Again, you're a contradiction.
Also my balls are real. Ask your girl.
Whatever you say, mccollom. Keep my family out of your vocabulary and go take your xanax.
That's cool. Drop my last name and make fun of me for taking xanax. Which I only took a couple times, can't even make fun of me correctly, you ignorant ass fuck. I was on other AD's and AA's if you really want to know. A lot of guys on here have. But you wouldnt know that because you're "too busy," At least you were reading up on me. I'm flattered you fit me into your schedule.
I can take it. I'm a 38 year old MAN. Who had a hell of a time quitting this shit. HELL. OF. A. TIME. Literally contimplated suicide more than once, not sure how serious I was about it, but the fact that it crossed my mind scared the shit out of me. That's some hard toothpaste to get back into the tube, lemme tell you.
Buts its cool, through all the struggle I stuck with this program, got encouragment from others here, and came out on the other side better than ever. It was a real struggle, the hardest thing I've ever done and next to having two kids, the thing in my life I am most proud of. I thank God every day for those who helped me and I now try to help others. Which is why I feel so strongly about this. Again, I have no issue with you being quit. My issue is with your lack of respect for this site and its principals.
You're a fucking selfish dick. You used the site to help you quit but didn't do shit to help anyone else. You were "too busy". Fuck you. That's a bullshit, Pussy ass excuse.
Theres mother fuckers on here who have had family members fucking DIE and still post role. Dudes on top of fucking mountains searching for a signal to post role via cell phone. People dealing with horrible personal tradgedy, still posting role and helping others. Just seeing that shit inspires others. But you...you were too busy. You're special. You'rethe only guy on the site who's busy. But if someone wants it, you'll offer them your number. Gee, what a guy.
How about taking literally a few minutes a day to post roll and read an intro or two from a new guy. Then maybe offer a guy or gal you see struggling a word or two of advice or encouragement, or better yet send them a PM with your number. Oh that's right, you are "too busy". Again, fuck you.
If you dont want to help anybody, its cool. The world is full of selfish Pussy ass pricks full of bullshit excuses. And their is no ktc rule that says you have too. I read everything on the site. I don't need a refresher course. Just dont pop your head in here like, "Hey fellas, how's it going, yuck yuck. I'm still quit, but been too busy to post roll which wasn't doing anything for me anyway. I also don't have the time to build any relationships with anyone. See ya guys!"
Go tool around on your motorcycle and pop some wheelies or something. You know, the stuff that keeps you "busy".
You're a little boy. A child. A bitch. I can tell simply by your selfish manner and the truth is I would crush you like a grape, Maybe some day you will grow up. I certainly hope so. Too many selfish d bags in this world. Part of the decay of society. Try being part of the solution and not the problem, bitch boy.
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Spoken like true gentlemen.
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Spoken like true gentlemen.
I've been looking at too many pictures of that grumpy cat.
Seriously, I get fired up sometimes. I honestly think 3 things in this world saved my life. This site being one of them.
Might be time to switch to decafe, though.
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Perhaps there comes a point in which it should be realized that something has become unproductive. This thread crossed that line a long time ago.
I suggest trying to focus on being critical of "the methods" and not on personal attacks about the "quitter". The site is about community and brotherhood, despite the fact that we don't all view that in the same way.
Keep quitting gentlemen and remain civil about doing it. I don't know either one of you, personally. But I do know that you are both all about beating the hell out of a nicotine addiciton.
Here is a portion of the mission statement of this website,
"we strive to include as many individuals as possible in our community, and, by definition, such a community encompasses a wide range of opinions, thoughts, and personalities. We are all here to quit and stay quit.
We are founded on the principle of including vastly different personalities and outlooks and so we strive to create an environment wherein members can express their full range of thoughts and emotions. Since quitting smokeless tobacco is an emotionally and physically painful undertaking, we should all be prepared to read things here that we might disagree with or find upsetting from time to time. Smokeless tobacco can, or at least should, only be sold to adults in the United States and so members presume that other members are adults (18 years of age).
If you find the posts of other members to be offensive, derogatory, or upsetting in any way, we strongly urge you to bring this up with the fellow member in question. We firmly believe that people using this website are good, trustworthy human beings with the common goal of quitting smokeless tobacco."I suggest a quick read of the full mission.
http://www.killthecan.org/about/mission.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/about/mission.asp)
I wasn't asked for my 2 cents but I couldn't resist providing it. I am signing off of this thread! It has done nothing to strengthen my quit. PM me if you have any concerns about my comments/statements.
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Perhaps there comes a point in which it should be realized that something has become unproductive. This thread crossed that line a long time ago.Â
I suggest trying to focus on being critical of "the methods" and not on personal attacks about the "quitter". The site is about community and brotherhood, despite the fact that we don't all view that in the same way.
Keep quitting gentlemen and remain civil about doing it. I don't know either one of you, personally. But I do know that you are both all about beating the hell out of a nicotine addiciton.Â
Here is a portion of the mission statement of this website,
"we strive to include as many individuals as possible in our community, and, by definition, such a community encompasses a wide range of opinions, thoughts, and personalities. We are all here to quit and stay quit.
We are founded on the principle of including vastly different personalities and outlooks and so we strive to create an environment wherein members can express their full range of thoughts and emotions. Since quitting smokeless tobacco is an emotionally and physically painful undertaking, we should all be prepared to read things here that we might disagree with or find upsetting from time to time. Smokeless tobacco can, or at least should, only be sold to adults in the United States and so members presume that other members are adults (18 years of age).
If you find the posts of other members to be offensive, derogatory, or upsetting in any way, we strongly urge you to bring this up with the fellow member in question. We firmly believe that people using this website are good, trustworthy human beings with the common goal of quitting smokeless tobacco."I suggest a quick read of the full mission.Â
http://www.killthecan.org/about/mission.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/about/mission.asp)
I wasn't asked for my 2 cents but I couldn't resist providing it. I am signing off of this thread! It has done nothing to strengthen my quit. PM me if you have any concerns about my comments/statements.
I get it, it got heated...some shit was talked, nothing productive you your quit, but still shit happens on here. Also you left off part of the mission statement that I was trying to defend most. Here, I will include it for you...
Welcome to KillTheCan.org / QSX!!! You are now a member of an online community of people dedicated to quitting smokeless tobacco and to supporting each other's struggles with a powerful and persistent addiction. This community does not and cannot exist without YOU and without the other individuals who have come here to give and receive help, support, friendship, kindness, camaraderie, and love as we strive together to free ourselves from the bonds of addiction. This forum is founded on the premise that each and every member is vital to beginning and continuing our shared success in defeating nicotine addiction...
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Perhaps there comes a point in which it should be realized that something has become unproductive. This thread crossed that line a long time ago.Â
I suggest trying to focus on being critical of "the methods" and not on personal attacks about the "quitter". The site is about community and brotherhood, despite the fact that we don't all view that in the same way.
Keep quitting gentlemen and remain civil about doing it. I don't know either one of you, personally. But I do know that you are both all about beating the hell out of a nicotine addiciton.Â
Here is a portion of the mission statement of this website,
"we strive to include as many individuals as possible in our community, and, by definition, such a community encompasses a wide range of opinions, thoughts, and personalities. We are all here to quit and stay quit.
We are founded on the principle of including vastly different personalities and outlooks and so we strive to create an environment wherein members can express their full range of thoughts and emotions. Since quitting smokeless tobacco is an emotionally and physically painful undertaking, we should all be prepared to read things here that we might disagree with or find upsetting from time to time. Smokeless tobacco can, or at least should, only be sold to adults in the United States and so members presume that other members are adults (18 years of age).
If you find the posts of other members to be offensive, derogatory, or upsetting in any way, we strongly urge you to bring this up with the fellow member in question. We firmly believe that people using this website are good, trustworthy human beings with the common goal of quitting smokeless tobacco."I suggest a quick read of the full mission.Â
http://www.killthecan.org/about/mission.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/about/mission.asp)
I wasn't asked for my 2 cents but I couldn't resist providing it. I am signing off of this thread! It has done nothing to strengthen my quit. PM me if you have any concerns about my comments/statements.
I get it, it got heated...some shit was talked, nothing productive you your quit, but still shit happens on here. Also you left off part of the mission statement that I was trying to defend most. Here, I will include it for you...
Welcome to KillTheCan.org / QSX!!! You are now a member of an online community of people dedicated to quitting smokeless tobacco and to supporting each other's struggles with a powerful and persistent addiction. This community does not and cannot exist without YOU and without the other individuals who have come here to give and receive help, support, friendship, kindness, camaraderie, and love as we strive together to free ourselves from the bonds of addiction. This forum is founded on the premise that each and every member is vital to beginning and continuing our shared success in defeating nicotine addiction...
I'm done. You're a pussy bitch diesel. Go panic and have some chest pain, faggot.
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Perhaps there comes a point in which it should be realized that something has become unproductive. This thread crossed that line a long time ago.Â
I suggest trying to focus on being critical of "the methods" and not on personal attacks about the "quitter". The site is about community and brotherhood, despite the fact that we don't all view that in the same way.
Keep quitting gentlemen and remain civil about doing it. I don't know either one of you, personally. But I do know that you are both all about beating the hell out of a nicotine addiciton.Â
Here is a portion of the mission statement of this website,
"we strive to include as many individuals as possible in our community, and, by definition, such a community encompasses a wide range of opinions, thoughts, and personalities. We are all here to quit and stay quit.
We are founded on the principle of including vastly different personalities and outlooks and so we strive to create an environment wherein members can express their full range of thoughts and emotions. Since quitting smokeless tobacco is an emotionally and physically painful undertaking, we should all be prepared to read things here that we might disagree with or find upsetting from time to time. Smokeless tobacco can, or at least should, only be sold to adults in the United States and so members presume that other members are adults (18 years of age).
If you find the posts of other members to be offensive, derogatory, or upsetting in any way, we strongly urge you to bring this up with the fellow member in question. We firmly believe that people using this website are good, trustworthy human beings with the common goal of quitting smokeless tobacco."I suggest a quick read of the full mission.Â
http://www.killthecan.org/about/mission.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/about/mission.asp)
I wasn't asked for my 2 cents but I couldn't resist providing it. I am signing off of this thread! It has done nothing to strengthen my quit. PM me if you have any concerns about my comments/statements.
I get it, it got heated...some shit was talked, nothing productive you your quit, but still shit happens on here. Also you left off part of the mission statement that I was trying to defend most. Here, I will include it for you...
Welcome to KillTheCan.org / QSX!!! You are now a member of an online community of people dedicated to quitting smokeless tobacco and to supporting each other's struggles with a powerful and persistent addiction. This community does not and cannot exist without YOU and without the other individuals who have come here to give and receive help, support, friendship, kindness, camaraderie, and love as we strive together to free ourselves from the bonds of addiction. This forum is founded on the premise that each and every member is vital to beginning and continuing our shared success in defeating nicotine addiction...
I'm done. You're a pussy bitch diesel. Go panic and have some chest pain, faggot.
Nice. Bye bye little feller. See you again in 3 months?
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Come on guys, this is getting ridiculous. We lost Fergy due to this very type of exchange. Fergy is one of the good guys and i have to say that i have considered following suit. I understand the rules, the approach, the brotherhood, the commitment, and the respect issues. On this site we commit to a certain method, tried and true for those that succeed, but not for those that do not succeed, anyone ever considered that? I will not insult, begrudge or look down on someone who believes this method is the only way to go nor will i for someone that succeeds some other way. I don't give a f?!k about how you make the sausage, I just want it to taste good at the end. I am trying to ignore these sorts of threads but it is pretty damn hard to do so. I appreciate all sides but i will not devolve to name calling and insults because my quit is better than yours. Have we become an exclusive club that excludes other "races and religions"?
If so, count me out.
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Read this. index.php?showtopic=120 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=120)
You own your quit and you can quit any way you want, but if you choose to quit here you will post roll. Then you can talk shit, offer digits or call me a douche. I don't care. If you choose not to post roll, fine. Just haul ass. It's simple.
MCR,
If you are not posting roll, your input is not wanted here. Post up or leave. It's simple.
March --- index.php?showtopic=7445 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7445)
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Read this. index.php?showtopic=120 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=120)
You own your quit and you can quit any way you want, but if you choose to quit here you will post roll. Then you can talk shit, offer digits or call me a douche. I don't care. If you choose not to post roll, fine. Just haul ass. It's simple.
MCR,
If you are not posting roll, your input is not wanted here. Post up or leave. It's simple.
March --- index.php?showtopic=7445 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7445)
So that I take it is the final word? Wow. I have some thinking to do.
My earlier post that was walked on.....
Come on guys, this is getting ridiculous. We lost Fergy due to this very type of exchange. Fergy is one of the good guys and i have to say that i have considered following suit. I understand the rules, the approach, the brotherhood, the commitment, and the respect issues. On this site we commit to a certain method, tried and true for those that succeed, but not for those that do not succeed, anyone ever considered that? I will not insult, begrudge or look down on someone who believes this method is the only way to go nor will i for someone that succeeds some other way. I don't give a f?!k about how you make the sausage, I just want it to taste good at the end. I am trying to ignore these sorts of threads but it is pretty damn hard to do so. I appreciate all sides but i will not devolve to name calling and insults because my quit is better than yours. Have we become an exclusive club that excludes other "races and religions"?
If so, count me out.
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Come on guys, this is getting ridiculous. We lost Fergy due to this very type of exchange. Fergy is one of the good guys and i have to say that i have considered following suit. I understand the rules, the approach, the brotherhood, the commitment, and the respect issues. On this site we commit to a certain method, tried and true for those that succeed, but not for those that do not succeed, anyone ever considered that? I will not insult, begrudge or look down on someone who believes this method is the only way to go nor will i for someone that succeeds some other way. I don't give a f?!k about how you make the sausage, I just want it to taste good at the end. I am trying to ignore these sorts of threads but it is pretty damn hard to do so. I appreciate all sides but i will not devolve to name calling and insults because my quit is better than yours. Have we become an exclusive club that excludes other "races and religions"?
If so, count me out.
Perfect springboard for an analogy I was thinking of already. So basically the way I see it, we're all looking for salvation, the same as anyone entering a house of worship for the first time. We want freedom from this addiction just as someone would want to grow a relationship with God.
We're all working towards the same end. But just as we have different denominations in the Christian faith, Catholics, Baptists, Lutheran, etc, there are different methods of quitting. Look at this site as if it were a brick and mortar Baptist church. Sure we are on the same path as the other Christian denominations, but we don't want a Catholic preist coming in and preaching his way here. There are other buildings and forums for that way.
So while I'm happy for mcr's success, this website preaches a different way to the promised land. I for one would like to keep our way in tact, but I certainly don't begrudge someone for their way. I just ask that they witness at their own church.
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Read this. index.php?showtopic=120 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=120)
You own your quit and you can quit any way you want, but if you choose to quit here you will post roll. Then you can talk shit, offer digits or call me a douche. I don't care. If you choose not to post roll, fine. Just haul ass. It's simple.
MCR,
If you are not posting roll, your input is not wanted here. Post up or leave. It's simple.
March --- index.php?showtopic=7445 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7445)
So that I take it is the final word? Wow. I have some thinking to do.
My earlier post that was walked on.....
Come on guys, this is getting ridiculous. We lost Fergy due to this very type of exchange. Fergy is one of the good guys and i have to say that i have considered following suit. I understand the rules, the approach, the brotherhood, the commitment, and the respect issues. On this site we commit to a certain method, tried and true for those that succeed, but not for those that do not succeed, anyone ever considered that? I will not insult, begrudge or look down on someone who believes this method is the only way to go nor will i for someone that succeeds some other way. I don't give a f?!k about how you make the sausage, I just want it to taste good at the end. I am trying to ignore these sorts of threads but it is pretty damn hard to do so. I appreciate all sides but i will not devolve to name calling and insults because my quit is better than yours. Have we become an exclusive club that excludes other "races and religions"?
If so, count me out.
If you post a promise not to use for the day you are good to go. If you want to come here...not post a promise but use the intro page or go over to the politics section or goof around in some other thread this site is not a good fit.
If you post up a promise then you fit in. No matter how unique you are. No matter how weird you are. No matter [insert blank]. If you promise for the day...you are the man and you have my 100% support.
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Come on guys, this is getting ridiculous. We lost Fergy due to this very type of exchange. Fergy is one of the good guys and i have to say that i have considered following suit. I understand the rules, the approach, the brotherhood, the commitment, and the respect issues. On this site we commit to a certain method, tried and true for those that succeed, but not for those that do not succeed, anyone ever considered that? I will not insult, begrudge or look down on someone who believes this method is the only way to go nor will i for someone that succeeds some other way. I don't give a f?!k about how you make the sausage, I just want it to taste good at the end. I am trying to ignore these sorts of threads but it is pretty damn hard to do so. I appreciate all sides but i will not devolve to name calling and insults because my quit is better than yours. Have we become an exclusive club that excludes other "races and religions"?
If so, count me out.
You know what, fuck this. This sites getting soft. I'm done. Ill just post roll if I feel like it and that's it.
I get into a spat with a guy who shits on posting roll and people start acting like they're 5 years old watching a slasher movie.
I got guys pm'ing me calling me an asshole because I called them out for claiming they weren't addicted to nicotine, just putting stuff in their mouth.
Maybe its time for me to move along. Maybe I'm taking this site TOO serious.
I tried to help some dudes out, but now I got a guy dogging me out about taking meds and telling me to go have a panic attack and chest pains. I can handle that, as I'm a big boy but god forbid someone have my back.
I'm out. You all just sit around holding hands and allow one another to quit any old way. Let role be optional, nobody pay shit forward, and if two people get after eachother, dick tuck and threaten to leave the site.
Later...I'm punting.
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Come on guys, this is getting ridiculous. We lost Fergy due to this very type of exchange. Fergy is one of the good guys and i have to say that i have considered following suit. I understand the rules, the approach, the brotherhood, the commitment, and the respect issues. On this site we commit to a certain method, tried and true for those that succeed, but not for those that do not succeed, anyone ever considered that? I will not insult, begrudge or look down on someone who believes this method is the only way to go nor will i for someone that succeeds some other way. I don't give a f?!k about how you make the sausage, I just want it to taste good at the end. I am trying to ignore these sorts of threads but it is pretty damn hard to do so. I appreciate all sides but i will not devolve to name calling and insults because my quit is better than yours. Have we become an exclusive club that excludes other "races and religions"?Â
If so, count me out.
You know what, fuck this. This sites getting soft. I'm done. Ill just post roll if I feel like it and that's it.
I get into a spat with a guy who shits on posting roll and people start acting like they're 5 years old watching a slasher movie.
I got guys pm'ing me calling me an asshole because I called them out for claiming they weren't addicted to nicotine, just putting stuff in their mouth.
Maybe its time for me to move along. Maybe I'm taking this site TOO serious.
I tried to help some dudes out, but now I got a guy dogging me out about taking meds and telling me to go have a panic attack and chest pains. I can handle that, as I'm a big boy but god forbid someone have my back.
I'm out. You all just sit around holding hands and allow one another to quit any old way. Let role be optional, nobody pay shit forward, and if two people get after eachother, dick tuck and threaten to leave the site.
Later...I'm punting.
Bullshit Diesel, quit feeling sorry for yourself. You have supported me a great deal and I have enjoyed our interactions. Don't be a martyr, you have too much to give and have given very successfully. I am proud to quit with you.
I simply asked an obvious question: can a message be shared without insults and degrading others? I say they can. Perhaps it is me that should leave since I don't fit this mold. People can Insult me all they want, I laugh it off and will continue to do so, but lets not let it devolve and be a distraction to those quitting the good quit.
I hope you change your mind. We all get PMS and a big man brushes it off and continues the fight.
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Come on guys, this is getting ridiculous. We lost Fergy due to this very type of exchange. Fergy is one of the good guys and i have to say that i have considered following suit. I understand the rules, the approach, the brotherhood, the commitment, and the respect issues. On this site we commit to a certain method, tried and true for those that succeed, but not for those that do not succeed, anyone ever considered that? I will not insult, begrudge or look down on someone who believes this method is the only way to go nor will i for someone that succeeds some other way. I don't give a f?!k about how you make the sausage, I just want it to taste good at the end. I am trying to ignore these sorts of threads but it is pretty damn hard to do so. I appreciate all sides but i will not devolve to name calling and insults because my quit is better than yours. Have we become an exclusive club that excludes other "races and religions"?Â
If so, count me out.
You know what, fuck this. This sites getting soft. I'm done. Ill just post roll if I feel like it and that's it.
I get into a spat with a guy who shits on posting roll and people start acting like they're 5 years old watching a slasher movie.
I got guys pm'ing me calling me an asshole because I called them out for claiming they weren't addicted to nicotine, just putting stuff in their mouth.
Maybe its time for me to move along. Maybe I'm taking this site TOO serious.
I tried to help some dudes out, but now I got a guy dogging me out about taking meds and telling me to go have a panic attack and chest pains. I can handle that, as I'm a big boy but god forbid someone have my back.
I'm out. You all just sit around holding hands and allow one another to quit any old way. Let role be optional, nobody pay shit forward, and if two people get after eachother, dick tuck and threaten to leave the site.
Later...I'm punting.
Bullshit Diesel, quit feeling sorry for yourself. You have supported me a great deal and I have enjoyed our interactions. Don't be a martyr, you have too much to give and have given very successfully. I am proud to quit with you.
I simply asked an obvious question: can a message be shared without insults and degrading others? I say they can. Perhaps it is me that should leave since I don't fit this mold. People can Insult me all they want, I laugh it off and will continue to do so, but lets not let it devolve and be a distraction to those quitting the good quit.
I hope you change your mind. We all get PMS and a big man brushes it off and continues the fight.
I'm not feeling sorry for myself, I'm not a martyr and I have sent 100's of messages without degrading others. If anything I've always tried to be a little edgy and a little funny at the same time.
Just think I've become too abrasive and am gonna drop out for awhile. Ktc will be fine, you're quit will be fine. You're strong, you get it.
Ill still post role...if I feel like it, since that's the new hottness on this site. Just gonna keep my nose in my own business from now on.
Gonna walk the mcr trail. Nobody seems to have a problem with him doing it, so why should you care if I do?
Stay quit!
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Come on guys, this is getting ridiculous. We lost Fergy due to this very type of exchange. Fergy is one of the good guys and i have to say that i have considered following suit. I understand the rules, the approach, the brotherhood, the commitment, and the respect issues. On this site we commit to a certain method, tried and true for those that succeed, but not for those that do not succeed, anyone ever considered that? I will not insult, begrudge or look down on someone who believes this method is the only way to go nor will i for someone that succeeds some other way. I don't give a f?!k about how you make the sausage, I just want it to taste good at the end. I am trying to ignore these sorts of threads but it is pretty damn hard to do so. I appreciate all sides but i will not devolve to name calling and insults because my quit is better than yours. Have we become an exclusive club that excludes other "races and religions"?Â
If so, count me out.
You know what, fuck this. This sites getting soft. I'm done. Ill just post roll if I feel like it and that's it.
I get into a spat with a guy who shits on posting roll and people start acting like they're 5 years old watching a slasher movie.
I got guys pm'ing me calling me an asshole because I called them out for claiming they weren't addicted to nicotine, just putting stuff in their mouth.
Maybe its time for me to move along. Maybe I'm taking this site TOO serious.
I tried to help some dudes out, but now I got a guy dogging me out about taking meds and telling me to go have a panic attack and chest pains. I can handle that, as I'm a big boy but god forbid someone have my back.
I'm out. You all just sit around holding hands and allow one another to quit any old way. Let role be optional, nobody pay shit forward, and if two people get after eachother, dick tuck and threaten to leave the site.
Later...I'm punting.
Bullshit Diesel, quit feeling sorry for yourself. You have supported me a great deal and I have enjoyed our interactions. Don't be a martyr, you have too much to give and have given very successfully. I am proud to quit with you.
I simply asked an obvious question: can a message be shared without insults and degrading others? I say they can. Perhaps it is me that should leave since I don't fit this mold. People can Insult me all they want, I laugh it off and will continue to do so, but lets not let it devolve and be a distraction to those quitting the good quit.
I hope you change your mind. We all get PMS and a big man brushes it off and continues the fight.
I'm not feeling sorry for myself, I'm not a martyr and I have sent 100's of messages without degrading others. If anything I've always tried to be a little edgy and a little funny at the same time.
Just think I've become too abrasive and am gonna drop out for awhile. Ktc will be fine, you're quit will be fine. You're strong, you get it.
Ill still post role...if I feel like it, since that's the new hottness on this site. Just gonna keep my nose in my own business from now on.
Gonna walk the mcr trail. Nobody seems to have a problem with him doing it, so why should you care if I do?
Stay quit!
I was first to call this cat out and and got called a "fuck" and other names by KTC brothers because I was inconsiderate of his special way of quitting. What I realized was that these are "new quitters" that really don't understand how this brotherhood works. They feel so good that they are quit and want to help others out by reinventing the wheel for this site so in can take in everyone.
(Look at this thread again and see who was posting what)
Back to quitting
Luv Waketech -183
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Come on guys, this is getting ridiculous. We lost Fergy due to this very type of exchange. Fergy is one of the good guys and i have to say that i have considered following suit. I understand the rules, the approach, the brotherhood, the commitment, and the respect issues. On this site we commit to a certain method, tried and true for those that succeed, but not for those that do not succeed, anyone ever considered that? I will not insult, begrudge or look down on someone who believes this method is the only way to go nor will i for someone that succeeds some other way. I don't give a f?!k about how you make the sausage, I just want it to taste good at the end. I am trying to ignore these sorts of threads but it is pretty damn hard to do so. I appreciate all sides but i will not devolve to name calling and insults because my quit is better than yours. Have we become an exclusive club that excludes other "races and religions"?
If so, count me out.
"Take what you need and leave the rest"
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Come on guys, this is getting ridiculous. We lost Fergy due to this very type of exchange. Fergy is one of the good guys and i have to say that i have considered following suit. I understand the rules, the approach, the brotherhood, the commitment, and the respect issues. On this site we commit to a certain method, tried and true for those that succeed, but not for those that do not succeed, anyone ever considered that? I will not insult, begrudge or look down on someone who believes this method is the only way to go nor will i for someone that succeeds some other way. I don't give a f?!k about how you make the sausage, I just want it to taste good at the end. I am trying to ignore these sorts of threads but it is pretty damn hard to do so. I appreciate all sides but i will not devolve to name calling and insults because my quit is better than yours. Have we become an exclusive club that excludes other "races and religions"?Â
If so, count me out.
You know what, fuck this. This sites getting soft. I'm done. Ill just post roll if I feel like it and that's it.
I get into a spat with a guy who shits on posting roll and people start acting like they're 5 years old watching a slasher movie.
I got guys pm'ing me calling me an asshole because I called them out for claiming they weren't addicted to nicotine, just putting stuff in their mouth.
Maybe its time for me to move along. Maybe I'm taking this site TOO serious.
I tried to help some dudes out, but now I got a guy dogging me out about taking meds and telling me to go have a panic attack and chest pains. I can handle that, as I'm a big boy but god forbid someone have my back.
I'm out. You all just sit around holding hands and allow one another to quit any old way. Let role be optional, nobody pay shit forward, and if two people get after eachother, dick tuck and threaten to leave the site.
Later...I'm punting.
Bullshit Diesel, quit feeling sorry for yourself. You have supported me a great deal and I have enjoyed our interactions. Don't be a martyr, you have too much to give and have given very successfully. I am proud to quit with you.
I simply asked an obvious question: can a message be shared without insults and degrading others? I say they can. Perhaps it is me that should leave since I don't fit this mold. People can Insult me all they want, I laugh it off and will continue to do so, but lets not let it devolve and be a distraction to those quitting the good quit.
I hope you change your mind. We all get PMS and a big man brushes it off and continues the fight.
I'm not feeling sorry for myself, I'm not a martyr and I have sent 100's of messages without degrading others. If anything I've always tried to be a little edgy and a little funny at the same time.
Just think I've become too abrasive and am gonna drop out for awhile. Ktc will be fine, you're quit will be fine. You're strong, you get it.
Ill still post role...if I feel like it, since that's the new hottness on this site. Just gonna keep my nose in my own business from now on.
Gonna walk the mcr trail. Nobody seems to have a problem with him doing it, so why should you care if I do?
Stay quit!
I was first to call this cat out and and got called a "fuck" and other names by KTC brothers because I was inconsiderate of his special way of quitting. What I realized was that these are "new quitters" that really don't understand how this brotherhood works. They feel so good that they are quit and want to help others out by reinventing the wheel for this site so in can take in everyone.
(Look at this thread again and see who was posting what)
Back to quitting
Luv Waketech -183
No doubt Wake. I had your back and then a shit storm insued. Sorry for all the trouble I've caused. Just gonna try life off the grid for a bit.
Quit on Wake!
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Come on guys, this is getting ridiculous. We lost Fergy due to this very type of exchange. Fergy is one of the good guys and i have to say that i have considered following suit. I understand the rules, the approach, the brotherhood, the commitment, and the respect issues. On this site we commit to a certain method, tried and true for those that succeed, but not for those that do not succeed, anyone ever considered that? I will not insult, begrudge or look down on someone who believes this method is the only way to go nor will i for someone that succeeds some other way. I don't give a f?!k about how you make the sausage, I just want it to taste good at the end. I am trying to ignore these sorts of threads but it is pretty damn hard to do so. I appreciate all sides but i will not devolve to name calling and insults because my quit is better than yours. Have we become an exclusive club that excludes other "races and religions"?Â
If so, count me out.
You know what, fuck this. This sites getting soft. I'm done. Ill just post roll if I feel like it and that's it.
I get into a spat with a guy who shits on posting roll and people start acting like they're 5 years old watching a slasher movie.
I got guys pm'ing me calling me an asshole because I called them out for claiming they weren't addicted to nicotine, just putting stuff in their mouth.
Maybe its time for me to move along. Maybe I'm taking this site TOO serious.
I tried to help some dudes out, but now I got a guy dogging me out about taking meds and telling me to go have a panic attack and chest pains. I can handle that, as I'm a big boy but god forbid someone have my back.
I'm out. You all just sit around holding hands and allow one another to quit any old way. Let role be optional, nobody pay shit forward, and if two people get after eachother, dick tuck and threaten to leave the site.
Later...I'm punting.
Bullshit Diesel, quit feeling sorry for yourself. You have supported me a great deal and I have enjoyed our interactions. Don't be a martyr, you have too much to give and have given very successfully. I am proud to quit with you.
I simply asked an obvious question: can a message be shared without insults and degrading others? I say they can. Perhaps it is me that should leave since I don't fit this mold. People can Insult me all they want, I laugh it off and will continue to do so, but lets not let it devolve and be a distraction to those quitting the good quit.
I hope you change your mind. We all get PMS and a big man brushes it off and continues the fight.
I'm not feeling sorry for myself, I'm not a martyr and I have sent 100's of messages without degrading others. If anything I've always tried to be a little edgy and a little funny at the same time.
Just think I've become too abrasive and am gonna drop out for awhile. Ktc will be fine, you're quit will be fine. You're strong, you get it.
Ill still post role...if I feel like it, since that's the new hottness on this site. Just gonna keep my nose in my own business from now on.
Gonna walk the mcr trail. Nobody seems to have a problem with him doing it, so why should you care if I do?
Stay quit!
I was first to call this cat out and and got called a "fuck" and other names by KTC brothers because I was inconsiderate of his special way of quitting. What I realized was that these are "new quitters" that really don't understand how this brotherhood works. They feel so good that they are quit and want to help others out by reinventing the wheel for this site so in can take in everyone.
(Look at this thread again and see who was posting what)
Back to quitting
Luv Waketech -183
No doubt Wake. I had your back and then a shit storm insued. Sorry for all the trouble I've caused. Just gonna try life off the grid for a bit.
Quit on Wake!
Big D. I have a compromise. You are too important to the group to be "off the grid" and I am starting to understand that I personally don't understand the group and I don't have the institutional knowledge. So my suggestion is that you stay active and I will simply avoid weighing in where I feel our energy and enthusiasm might be put to better use. This will take great effort, I have never been shy about such things. I simply don't want to upset the important balance here, the work is too important for that. I would simply ask that we each ask the following questions before we post: is what I am going to say important? How will this make others feel? Have I considered how this will be perceived? Will it help ktc achieve its mission?
Running silent but still proud to quit with each of you
Shed
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Come on guys, this is getting ridiculous. We lost Fergy due to this very type of exchange. Fergy is one of the good guys and i have to say that i have considered following suit. I understand the rules, the approach, the brotherhood, the commitment, and the respect issues. On this site we commit to a certain method, tried and true for those that succeed, but not for those that do not succeed, anyone ever considered that? I will not insult, begrudge or look down on someone who believes this method is the only way to go nor will i for someone that succeeds some other way. I don't give a f?!k about how you make the sausage, I just want it to taste good at the end. I am trying to ignore these sorts of threads but it is pretty damn hard to do so. I appreciate all sides but i will not devolve to name calling and insults because my quit is better than yours. Have we become an exclusive club that excludes other "races and religions"?Â
If so, count me out.
You know what, fuck this. This sites getting soft. I'm done. Ill just post roll if I feel like it and that's it.
I get into a spat with a guy who shits on posting roll and people start acting like they're 5 years old watching a slasher movie.
I got guys pm'ing me calling me an asshole because I called them out for claiming they weren't addicted to nicotine, just putting stuff in their mouth.
Maybe its time for me to move along. Maybe I'm taking this site TOO serious.
I tried to help some dudes out, but now I got a guy dogging me out about taking meds and telling me to go have a panic attack and chest pains. I can handle that, as I'm a big boy but god forbid someone have my back.
I'm out. You all just sit around holding hands and allow one another to quit any old way. Let role be optional, nobody pay shit forward, and if two people get after eachother, dick tuck and threaten to leave the site.
Later...I'm punting.
Bullshit Diesel, quit feeling sorry for yourself. You have supported me a great deal and I have enjoyed our interactions. Don't be a martyr, you have too much to give and have given very successfully. I am proud to quit with you.
I simply asked an obvious question: can a message be shared without insults and degrading others? I say they can. Perhaps it is me that should leave since I don't fit this mold. People can Insult me all they want, I laugh it off and will continue to do so, but lets not let it devolve and be a distraction to those quitting the good quit.
I hope you change your mind. We all get PMS and a big man brushes it off and continues the fight.
I'm not feeling sorry for myself, I'm not a martyr and I have sent 100's of messages without degrading others. If anything I've always tried to be a little edgy and a little funny at the same time.
Just think I've become too abrasive and am gonna drop out for awhile. Ktc will be fine, you're quit will be fine. You're strong, you get it.
Ill still post role...if I feel like it, since that's the new hottness on this site. Just gonna keep my nose in my own business from now on.
Gonna walk the mcr trail. Nobody seems to have a problem with him doing it, so why should you care if I do?
Stay quit!
I was first to call this cat out and and got called a "fuck" and other names by KTC brothers because I was inconsiderate of his special way of quitting. What I realized was that these are "new quitters" that really don't understand how this brotherhood works. They feel so good that they are quit and want to help others out by reinventing the wheel for this site so in can take in everyone.
(Look at this thread again and see who was posting what)
Back to quitting
Luv Waketech -183
No doubt Wake. I had your back and then a shit storm insued. Sorry for all the trouble I've caused. Just gonna try life off the grid for a bit.
Quit on Wake!
Big D. I have a compromise. You are too important to the group to be "off the grid" and I am starting to understand that I personally don't understand the group and I don't have the institutional knowledge. So my suggestion is that you stay active and I will simply avoid weighing in where I feel our energy and enthusiasm might be put to better use. This will take great effort, I have never been shy about such things. I simply don't want to upset the important balance here, the work is too important for that. I would simply ask that we each ask the following questions before we post: is what I am going to say important? How will this make others feel? Have I considered how this will be perceived? Will it help ktc achieve its mission?
Running silent but still proud to quit with each of you
Shed
I second that Shed. We can all use the help.
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Come on guys, this is getting ridiculous. We lost Fergy due to this very type of exchange. Fergy is one of the good guys and i have to say that i have considered following suit. I understand the rules, the approach, the brotherhood, the commitment, and the respect issues. On this site we commit to a certain method, tried and true for those that succeed, but not for those that do not succeed, anyone ever considered that? I will not insult, begrudge or look down on someone who believes this method is the only way to go nor will i for someone that succeeds some other way. I don't give a f?!k about how you make the sausage, I just want it to taste good at the end. I am trying to ignore these sorts of threads but it is pretty damn hard to do so. I appreciate all sides but i will not devolve to name calling and insults because my quit is better than yours. Have we become an exclusive club that excludes other "races and religions"?Â
If so, count me out.
You know what, fuck this. This sites getting soft. I'm done. Ill just post roll if I feel like it and that's it.
I get into a spat with a guy who shits on posting roll and people start acting like they're 5 years old watching a slasher movie.
I got guys pm'ing me calling me an asshole because I called them out for claiming they weren't addicted to nicotine, just putting stuff in their mouth.
Maybe its time for me to move along. Maybe I'm taking this site TOO serious.
I tried to help some dudes out, but now I got a guy dogging me out about taking meds and telling me to go have a panic attack and chest pains. I can handle that, as I'm a big boy but god forbid someone have my back.
I'm out. You all just sit around holding hands and allow one another to quit any old way. Let role be optional, nobody pay shit forward, and if two people get after eachother, dick tuck and threaten to leave the site.
Later...I'm punting.
Bullshit Diesel, quit feeling sorry for yourself. You have supported me a great deal and I have enjoyed our interactions. Don't be a martyr, you have too much to give and have given very successfully. I am proud to quit with you.
I simply asked an obvious question: can a message be shared without insults and degrading others? I say they can. Perhaps it is me that should leave since I don't fit this mold. People can Insult me all they want, I laugh it off and will continue to do so, but lets not let it devolve and be a distraction to those quitting the good quit.
I hope you change your mind. We all get PMS and a big man brushes it off and continues the fight.
I'm not feeling sorry for myself, I'm not a martyr and I have sent 100's of messages without degrading others. If anything I've always tried to be a little edgy and a little funny at the same time.
Just think I've become too abrasive and am gonna drop out for awhile. Ktc will be fine, you're quit will be fine. You're strong, you get it.
Ill still post role...if I feel like it, since that's the new hottness on this site. Just gonna keep my nose in my own business from now on.
Gonna walk the mcr trail. Nobody seems to have a problem with him doing it, so why should you care if I do?
Stay quit!
I was first to call this cat out and and got called a "fuck" and other names by KTC brothers because I was inconsiderate of his special way of quitting. What I realized was that these are "new quitters" that really don't understand how this brotherhood works. They feel so good that they are quit and want to help others out by reinventing the wheel for this site so in can take in everyone.
(Look at this thread again and see who was posting what)
Back to quitting
Luv Waketech -183
No doubt Wake. I had your back and then a shit storm insued. Sorry for all the trouble I've caused. Just gonna try life off the grid for a bit.
Quit on Wake!
Big D. I have a compromise. You are too important to the group to be "off the grid" and I am starting to understand that I personally don't understand the group and I don't have the institutional knowledge. So my suggestion is that you stay active and I will simply avoid weighing in where I feel our energy and enthusiasm might be put to better use. This will take great effort, I have never been shy about such things. I simply don't want to upset the important balance here, the work is too important for that. I would simply ask that we each ask the following questions before we post: is what I am going to say important? How will this make others feel? Have I considered how this will be perceived? Will it help ktc achieve its mission?
Running silent but still proud to quit with each of you
Shed
Great job all of you. Posting roll is a damn low hurdle. I expect it. Ya'll do to. Fuckem if they can't do that for us. I quit with all of you bad ass quitters.
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Come on guys, this is getting ridiculous. We lost Fergy due to this very type of exchange. Fergy is one of the good guys and i have to say that i have considered following suit. I understand the rules, the approach, the brotherhood, the commitment, and the respect issues. On this site we commit to a certain method, tried and true for those that succeed, but not for those that do not succeed, anyone ever considered that? I will not insult, begrudge or look down on someone who believes this method is the only way to go nor will i for someone that succeeds some other way. I don't give a f?!k about how you make the sausage, I just want it to taste good at the end. I am trying to ignore these sorts of threads but it is pretty damn hard to do so. I appreciate all sides but i will not devolve to name calling and insults because my quit is better than yours. Have we become an exclusive club that excludes other "races and religions"?Â
If so, count me out.
You know what, fuck this. This sites getting soft. I'm done. Ill just post roll if I feel like it and that's it.
I get into a spat with a guy who shits on posting roll and people start acting like they're 5 years old watching a slasher movie.
I got guys pm'ing me calling me an asshole because I called them out for claiming they weren't addicted to nicotine, just putting stuff in their mouth.
Maybe its time for me to move along. Maybe I'm taking this site TOO serious.
I tried to help some dudes out, but now I got a guy dogging me out about taking meds and telling me to go have a panic attack and chest pains. I can handle that, as I'm a big boy but god forbid someone have my back.
I'm out. You all just sit around holding hands and allow one another to quit any old way. Let role be optional, nobody pay shit forward, and if two people get after eachother, dick tuck and threaten to leave the site.
Later...I'm punting.
Bullshit Diesel, quit feeling sorry for yourself. You have supported me a great deal and I have enjoyed our interactions. Don't be a martyr, you have too much to give and have given very successfully. I am proud to quit with you.
I simply asked an obvious question: can a message be shared without insults and degrading others? I say they can. Perhaps it is me that should leave since I don't fit this mold. People can Insult me all they want, I laugh it off and will continue to do so, but lets not let it devolve and be a distraction to those quitting the good quit.
I hope you change your mind. We all get PMS and a big man brushes it off and continues the fight.
I'm not feeling sorry for myself, I'm not a martyr and I have sent 100's of messages without degrading others. If anything I've always tried to be a little edgy and a little funny at the same time.
Just think I've become too abrasive and am gonna drop out for awhile. Ktc will be fine, you're quit will be fine. You're strong, you get it.
Ill still post role...if I feel like it, since that's the new hottness on this site. Just gonna keep my nose in my own business from now on.
Gonna walk the mcr trail. Nobody seems to have a problem with him doing it, so why should you care if I do?
Stay quit!
I was first to call this cat out and and got called a "fuck" and other names by KTC brothers because I was inconsiderate of his special way of quitting. What I realized was that these are "new quitters" that really don't understand how this brotherhood works. They feel so good that they are quit and want to help others out by reinventing the wheel for this site so in can take in everyone.
(Look at this thread again and see who was posting what)
Back to quitting
Luv Waketech -183
No doubt Wake. I had your back and then a shit storm insued. Sorry for all the trouble I've caused. Just gonna try life off the grid for a bit.
Quit on Wake!
Big D. I have a compromise. You are too important to the group to be "off the grid" and I am starting to understand that I personally don't understand the group and I don't have the institutional knowledge. So my suggestion is that you stay active and I will simply avoid weighing in where I feel our energy and enthusiasm might be put to better use. This will take great effort, I have never been shy about such things. I simply don't want to upset the important balance here, the work is too important for that. I would simply ask that we each ask the following questions before we post: is what I am going to say important? How will this make others feel? Have I considered how this will be perceived? Will it help ktc achieve its mission?
Running silent but still proud to quit with each of you
Shed
Great job all of you. Posting roll is a damn low hurdle. I expect it. Ya'll do to. Fuckem if they can't do that for us. I quit with all of you bad ass quitters.
I'm with Diesel on this. Is it really THAT difficult to post daily??? What the fuck? We've got a winning way here. Why should Diesel be called inflexible because he expects the new guys to adhere to the rules of the site? It seems to me that those that wanna do a weekly fly by are inflexible, and playing with fire from what I've seen from part-time posters in my own group.
I've never had any interaction with Diesel personally, but I'm on this site enough to have seen his name pop up daily. The man is all about helping others from what I've seen...even if he is a Wolverine fan.
Hey Diesel, O-H!
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Come on guys, this is getting ridiculous. We lost Fergy due to this very type of exchange. Fergy is one of the good guys and i have to say that i have considered following suit. I understand the rules, the approach, the brotherhood, the commitment, and the respect issues. On this site we commit to a certain method, tried and true for those that succeed, but not for those that do not succeed, anyone ever considered that? I will not insult, begrudge or look down on someone who believes this method is the only way to go nor will i for someone that succeeds some other way. I don't give a f?!k about how you make the sausage, I just want it to taste good at the end. I am trying to ignore these sorts of threads but it is pretty damn hard to do so. I appreciate all sides but i will not devolve to name calling and insults because my quit is better than yours. Have we become an exclusive club that excludes other "races and religions"?Â
If so, count me out.
You know what, fuck this. This sites getting soft. I'm done. Ill just post roll if I feel like it and that's it.
I get into a spat with a guy who shits on posting roll and people start acting like they're 5 years old watching a slasher movie.
I got guys pm'ing me calling me an asshole because I called them out for claiming they weren't addicted to nicotine, just putting stuff in their mouth.
Maybe its time for me to move along. Maybe I'm taking this site TOO serious.
I tried to help some dudes out, but now I got a guy dogging me out about taking meds and telling me to go have a panic attack and chest pains. I can handle that, as I'm a big boy but god forbid someone have my back.
I'm out. You all just sit around holding hands and allow one another to quit any old way. Let role be optional, nobody pay shit forward, and if two people get after eachother, dick tuck and threaten to leave the site.
Later...I'm punting.
Bullshit Diesel, quit feeling sorry for yourself. You have supported me a great deal and I have enjoyed our interactions. Don't be a martyr, you have too much to give and have given very successfully. I am proud to quit with you.
I simply asked an obvious question: can a message be shared without insults and degrading others? I say they can. Perhaps it is me that should leave since I don't fit this mold. People can Insult me all they want, I laugh it off and will continue to do so, but lets not let it devolve and be a distraction to those quitting the good quit.
I hope you change your mind. We all get PMS and a big man brushes it off and continues the fight.
I'm not feeling sorry for myself, I'm not a martyr and I have sent 100's of messages without degrading others. If anything I've always tried to be a little edgy and a little funny at the same time.
Just think I've become too abrasive and am gonna drop out for awhile. Ktc will be fine, you're quit will be fine. You're strong, you get it.
Ill still post role...if I feel like it, since that's the new hottness on this site. Just gonna keep my nose in my own business from now on.
Gonna walk the mcr trail. Nobody seems to have a problem with him doing it, so why should you care if I do?
Stay quit!
I was first to call this cat out and and got called a "fuck" and other names by KTC brothers because I was inconsiderate of his special way of quitting. What I realized was that these are "new quitters" that really don't understand how this brotherhood works. They feel so good that they are quit and want to help others out by reinventing the wheel for this site so in can take in everyone.
(Look at this thread again and see who was posting what)
Back to quitting
Luv Waketech -183
No doubt Wake. I had your back and then a shit storm insued. Sorry for all the trouble I've caused. Just gonna try life off the grid for a bit.
Quit on Wake!
Big D. I have a compromise. You are too important to the group to be "off the grid" and I am starting to understand that I personally don't understand the group and I don't have the institutional knowledge. So my suggestion is that you stay active and I will simply avoid weighing in where I feel our energy and enthusiasm might be put to better use. This will take great effort, I have never been shy about such things. I simply don't want to upset the important balance here, the work is too important for that. I would simply ask that we each ask the following questions before we post: is what I am going to say important? How will this make others feel? Have I considered how this will be perceived? Will it help ktc achieve its mission?
Running silent but still proud to quit with each of you
Shed
Gym Locker, don't censor yourself. Your quit is young. You need to say whatever is on your mind, that's another great thing about this site. You can say whatever is on your mind.
I'm not dieing, just gonna step back a bit. Might be good for me. You need anything, pm me. I'd never turn my back on a fellow quitter.
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What is going on here?????? My father didnt say a ton of wise shit to me but he did tell me this. "I dont like Liars and Thieves" If you post roll on this site that means you have quit using Nicotine. Period. If you cave.......Then you are using Nicotine and you have LIED. Sorry if we dont blow on your scrape and say everything is alright! You lied to me!.................. You lied to your group!........... You lied to anyone that has put time in with you or anyone who has posted support for you.
All we ask is for a person to not come back with some BS answer about what happened. We hold them accountable! If they continue to bring BS then we hold them accountable for that. WTF is the problem? Dont fucking cave and there wont be an issue! If you think We are hard on someone go back in history and read some of those Intro's. We are far from tough on people.
1. What Happened?
2. Why did it happen
3. What are the changes that you will make to make sure it doesnt happen again.
Be honest on those three answers and post up and you are back on the Quit express.
D and Wake shouldnt feel bad about expressing how they feel about someone who has lied to all of us. We have all had craves!!!! We have all been on our fucking knees fighting this shit off!! If we can do it, then why cant someone else?
We are not giving out participation medals here!! We aren't here to say it is ok if you almost made it. Good TRY!!
We are allowing people earn a new fucking life!! Freedom like an addict has never felt before!
Seems simple to me.
That's my Two cents..........Im out!!
J
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What is going on here?????? My father didnt say a ton of wise shit to me but he did tell me this. "I dont like Liars and Thieves" If you post roll on this site that means you have quit using Nicotine. Period. If you cave.......Then you are using Nicotine and you have LIED. Sorry if we dont blow on your scrape and say everything is alright! You lied to me!.................. You lied to your group!........... You lied to anyone that has put time in with you or anyone who has posted support for you.
All we ask is for a person to not come back with some BS answer about what happened. We hold them accountable! If they continue to bring BS then we hold them accountable for that. WTF is the problem? Dont fucking cave and there wont be an issue! If you think We are hard on someone go back in history and read some of those Intro's. We are far from tough on people.
1. What Happened?
2. Why did it happen
3. What are the changes that you will make to make sure it doesnt happen again.
Be honest on those three answers and post up and you are back on the Quit express.
D and Wake shouldnt feel bad about expressing how they feel about someone who has lied to all of us. We have all had craves!!!! We have all been on our fucking knees fighting this shit off!! If we can do it, then why cant someone else?
We are not giving out participation medals here!! We aren't here to say it is ok if you almost made it. Good TRY!!
We are allowing people earn a new fucking life!! Freedom like an addict has never felt before!
Seems simple to me.
That's my Two cents..........Im out!!
J
I am out as well. Thanks for actually reading and understanding my posts and the solid 3 weeks of support. Adios.
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What is going on here?????? My father didnt say a ton of wise shit to me but he did tell me this. "I dont like Liars and Thieves" If you post roll on this site that means you have quit using Nicotine. Period. If you cave.......Then you are using Nicotine and you have LIED. Sorry if we dont blow on your scrape and say everything is alright! You lied to me!.................. You lied to your group!........... You lied to anyone that has put time in with you or anyone who has posted support for you.
All we ask is for a person to not come back with some BS answer about what happened. We hold them accountable! If they continue to bring BS then we hold them accountable for that. WTF is the problem? Dont fucking cave and there wont be an issue! If you think We are hard on someone go back in history and read some of those Intro's. We are far from tough on people.
1. What Happened?
2. Why did it happen
3. What are the changes that you will make to make sure it doesnt happen again.
Be honest on those three answers and post up and you are back on the Quit express.
D and Wake shouldnt feel bad about expressing how they feel about someone who has lied to all of us. We have all had craves!!!! We have all been on our fucking knees fighting this shit off!! If we can do it, then why cant someone else?
We are not giving out participation medals here!! We aren't here to say it is ok if you almost made it. Good TRY!!
We are allowing people earn a new fucking life!! Freedom like an addict has never felt before!
Seems simple to me.
That's my Two cents..........Im out!!
J
Truth. Lets not get soft around here. I have made it 20 days quit here on this site because of the way things are structured. If I knew that if I caved I got a pat on the back, a few dollars for a candy bar, and a "great effort, get her next time!" I would have fucking caved already. I don't want to let my brothers down. I have people checking in on me daily. I make my daily promise to stay quit and I do NOT want to be a liar.
If this site doesn't fit your personal quit preferences or lifestyles because you are too busy for a 10 second per day commitment go somewhere fucking else.
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What is going on here?????? My father didnt say a ton of wise shit to me but he did tell me this. "I dont like Liars and Thieves" If you post roll on this site that means you have quit using Nicotine. Period. If you cave.......Then you are using Nicotine and you have LIED. Sorry if we dont blow on your scrape and say everything is alright! You lied to me!.................. You lied to your group!........... You lied to anyone that has put time in with you or anyone who has posted support for you.
All we ask is for a person to not come back with some BS answer about what happened. We hold them accountable! If they continue to bring BS then we hold them accountable for that. WTF is the problem? Dont fucking cave and there wont be an issue! If you think We are hard on someone go back in history and read some of those Intro's. We are far from tough on people.
1. What Happened?
2. Why did it happenÂ
3. What are the changes that you will make to make sure it doesnt happen again.Â
Be honest on those three answers and post up and you are back on the Quit express.
D and Wake shouldnt feel bad about expressing how they feel about someone who has lied to all of us. We have all had craves!!!! We have all been on our fucking knees fighting this shit off!! If we can do it, then why cant someone else?Â
We are not giving out participation medals here!! We aren't here to say it is ok if you almost made it. Good TRY!!Â
We are allowing people earn a new fucking life!! Freedom like an addict has never felt before!   Â
Seems simple to me.Â
That's my Two cents..........Im out!!
J
I am out as well. Thanks for actually reading and understanding my posts and the solid 3 weeks of support. Adios.
This thread reminds me of a bad soap opera. Take what you need and leave the rest. First few weeks you a very susceptible to drama. This site is meant for you to rant and get pissed off. Sometimes toes might get stepped on, but in the end we are all here for the same reasonÂ…we quit nicotine today!
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So let me get this straight. We have one quitter who offers tons of support and substance, and another quitter that appears to be heading down the same path, arguing with each other as a result of a few posts by yet another quitter who up until this point, offers far less.
And they have all decided to pack their shit and go home?
Awesome.....
'Crazy'
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So let me get this straight. We have one quitter who offers tons of support and substance, and another quitter that appears to be heading down the same path, arguing with each other as a result of a few posts by yet another quitter who up until this point, offers far less.
And they have all decided to pack their shit and go home?
Awesome.....
'Crazy'
Im not going home...I'm like herpies
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So let me get this straight. We have one quitter who offers tons of support and substance, and another quitter that appears to be heading down the same path, arguing with each other as a result of a few posts by yet another quitter who up until this point, offers far less.
And they have all decided to pack their shit and go home?
Awesome.....
'Crazy'
Im not going home...I'm like herpies
You mean the good kind, right?
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Shed and diesel KTC needs you both. You have both been valuable to me and others
I like the intensity and passion. Both of you MF's better stay active and verbal on the site
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Shed and diesel KTC needs you both. You have both been valuable to me and others
I like the intensity and passion. Both of you MF's better stay active and verbal on the site
I got too emotional, I got hooked by this joker and I'm letting some frustrating difficulties with my 7 yr old daughter (diagnosed with dyslexia) boil over.
I'm on life tilt right now. Time to stop, take a deep breath, push away from the table, and get myself in check. I might miss an orbit around the table but I'm not leaving the game.
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Shed and diesel KTC needs you both. You have both been valuable to me and others
I like the intensity and passion. Both of you MF's better stay active and verbal on the site
I got too emotional, I got hooked by this joker and I'm letting some frustrating difficulties with my 7 yr old daughter (diagnosed with dyslexia) boil over.
I'm on life tilt right now. Time to stop, take a deep breath, push away from the table, and get myself in check. I might miss an orbit around the table but I'm not leaving the game.
I like Old Diesel. I like Old Loot and Old Evil and Old Fuel and Old wmcatty and Old guys like Parputt that pissed me off one time. Didn't bother me; turned me into a "I'll show you" kinda guy. Turned into respect. That's what happens when you hang around and figure out what this quit means to these guys. I have read it a hundred times on here. Take what you need from the site and leave the rest. What in the hell is wrong with feeding off the pissyness of others? I like seeing Diesel and others rip somebody a brand spanking new asshole. I pretend it's me who's getting fitted for such an asshole should I cave. Keep ripping dudes, Diesel.
I'm rooting for your daughter today, mostly, Diesel. I'm in grad school with a grown woman that grew up with Dyslexia. The biggest thing that helped her? No kidding, it was learning to write in cursive. For some reason, the continuity of letter-writing (i.e. never picking up the pencil) was a huge amount of her therapy for dyslexia. That's all I got, as I'm not a doctor, but she says that's why she still writes in cursive today. And she's 41. Good luck to the kid, dude. And keep creating new assholes. I beg of you.
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Come on guys, this is getting ridiculous. We lost Fergy due to this very type of exchange. Fergy is one of the good guys and i have to say that i have considered following suit. I understand the rules, the approach, the brotherhood, the commitment, and the respect issues. On this site we commit to a certain method, tried and true for those that succeed, but not for those that do not succeed, anyone ever considered that? I will not insult, begrudge or look down on someone who believes this method is the only way to go nor will i for someone that succeeds some other way. I don't give a f?!k about how you make the sausage, I just want it to taste good at the end. I am trying to ignore these sorts of threads but it is pretty damn hard to do so. I appreciate all sides but i will not devolve to name calling and insults because my quit is better than yours. Have we become an exclusive club that excludes other "races and religions"?Â
If so, count me out.
You know what, fuck this. This sites getting soft. I'm done. Ill just post roll if I feel like it and that's it.
I get into a spat with a guy who shits on posting roll and people start acting like they're 5 years old watching a slasher movie.
I got guys pm'ing me calling me an asshole because I called them out for claiming they weren't addicted to nicotine, just putting stuff in their mouth.
Maybe its time for me to move along. Maybe I'm taking this site TOO serious.
I tried to help some dudes out, but now I got a guy dogging me out about taking meds and telling me to go have a panic attack and chest pains. I can handle that, as I'm a big boy but god forbid someone have my back.
I'm out. You all just sit around holding hands and allow one another to quit any old way. Let role be optional, nobody pay shit forward, and if two people get after eachother, dick tuck and threaten to leave the site.
Later...I'm punting.
Bullshit Diesel, quit feeling sorry for yourself. You have supported me a great deal and I have enjoyed our interactions. Don't be a martyr, you have too much to give and have given very successfully. I am proud to quit with you.
I simply asked an obvious question: can a message be shared without insults and degrading others? I say they can. Perhaps it is me that should leave since I don't fit this mold. People can Insult me all they want, I laugh it off and will continue to do so, but lets not let it devolve and be a distraction to those quitting the good quit.
I hope you change your mind. We all get PMS and a big man brushes it off and continues the fight.
I'm not feeling sorry for myself, I'm not a martyr and I have sent 100's of messages without degrading others. If anything I've always tried to be a little edgy and a little funny at the same time.
Just think I've become too abrasive and am gonna drop out for awhile. Ktc will be fine, you're quit will be fine. You're strong, you get it.
Ill still post role...if I feel like it, since that's the new hottness on this site. Just gonna keep my nose in my own business from now on.
Gonna walk the mcr trail. Nobody seems to have a problem with him doing it, so why should you care if I do?
Stay quit!
I was first to call this cat out and and got called a "fuck" and other names by KTC brothers because I was inconsiderate of his special way of quitting. What I realized was that these are "new quitters" that really don't understand how this brotherhood works. They feel so good that they are quit and want to help others out by reinventing the wheel for this site so in can take in everyone.
(Look at this thread again and see who was posting what)
Back to quitting
Luv Waketech -183
Hey Wake,
Here's the deal....I am new to this site and may not fully understand the whole Gist of how it works but I do know what a brotherhood means and how important it is in overcoming an addiction such as the one we all share. Believe me I understand that we have to come down on each other when we start to slip and we should hard if needed but there is a line. When someone resorts to childish name calling, and I'll be the first to admit it (e.g. "you Fuck"), personal attacks, etc. then the situation is no longer helpful. That kind of negativity breeds negativity and spirals downhill as we have seen in his thread from hell. Your intentions may have been just and I can tell quitting means a lot to you which it should. I can be a real asshole when I think someone is just straight-up being a complete douchebag prick; I just have always been that way. But I really prefer not to be like that and like to call others Brother and offer and receive support and friendship.
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I haven't been here long but you know I agree that if you join this site to quit then follow the rules and post roll everyday. I understand the importance of it now. It's much more than simply just adding your name to a long list....its making a vow to yourself and your brothers that you will be honest and stay nic free for that day. With that core value driving it, I can see how those who don't put in the time post or take it seriously is kind of like a slap to their fellow brothers who DO put in the time and commitment. I will tell you all now that I will do my part and stay true.
That being said, what's the deal with all these people saying "adios" and "I'm out of here"?? That's not what hard core quitters do is it?
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Come on guys, this is getting ridiculous.� We lost Fergy due to this very type of exchange.� Fergy is one of the good guys and i have to say that i have considered following suit.� I understand the rules, the approach, the brotherhood, the commitment, and the respect issues.� On this site we commit to a certain method, tried and true for those that succeed, but not for those that do not succeed, anyone ever considered that?� I will not insult, begrudge or look down on someone who believes this method is the only way to go nor will i for someone that succeeds some other way.� I don't give a f?!k about how you make the sausage, I just want it to taste good at the end.� I am trying to ignore these sorts of threads but it is pretty damn hard to do so.� I appreciate all sides but i will not devolve to name calling and insults because my quit is better than yours. Have we become an exclusive club that excludes other "races and religions"?�
If so, count me out.
You know what, fuck this. This sites getting soft. I'm done. Ill just post roll if I feel like it and that's it.
I get into a spat with a guy who shits on posting roll and people start acting like they're 5 years old watching a slasher movie.
I got guys pm'ing me calling me an asshole because I called them out for claiming they weren't addicted to nicotine, just putting stuff in their mouth.
Maybe its time for me to move along. Maybe I'm taking this site TOO serious.
I tried to help some dudes out, but now I got a guy dogging me out about taking meds and telling me to go have a panic attack and chest pains. I can handle that, as I'm a big boy but god forbid someone have my back.
I'm out. You all just sit around holding hands and allow one another to quit any old way. Let role be optional, nobody pay shit forward, and if two people get after eachother, dick tuck and threaten to leave the site.
Later...I'm punting.
Bullshit Diesel, quit feeling sorry for yourself. You have supported me a great deal and I have enjoyed our interactions. Don't be a martyr, you have too much to give and have given very successfully. I am proud to quit with you.
I simply asked an obvious question: can a message be shared without insults and degrading others? I say they can. Perhaps it is me that should leave since I don't fit this mold. People can Insult me all they want, I laugh it off and will continue to do so, but lets not let it devolve and be a distraction to those quitting the good quit.
I hope you change your mind. We all get PMS and a big man brushes it off and continues the fight.
I'm not feeling sorry for myself, I'm not a martyr and I have sent 100's of messages without degrading others. If anything I've always tried to be a little edgy and a little funny at the same time.
Just think I've become too abrasive and am gonna drop out for awhile. Ktc will be fine, you're quit will be fine. You're strong, you get it.
Ill still post role...if I feel like it, since that's the new hottness on this site. Just gonna keep my nose in my own business from now on.
Gonna walk the mcr trail. Nobody seems to have a problem with him doing it, so why should you care if I do?
Stay quit!
I was first to call this cat out and and got called a "fuck" and other names by KTC brothers because I was inconsiderate of his special way of quitting. What I realized was that these are "new quitters" that really don't understand how this brotherhood works. They feel so good that they are quit and want to help others out by reinventing the wheel for this site so in can take in everyone.
(Look at this thread again and see who was posting what)
Back to quitting
Luv Waketech -183
Hey Wake,
Here's the deal....I am new to this site and may not fully understand the whole Gist of how it works but I do know what a brotherhood means and how important it is in overcoming an addiction such as the one we all share. Believe me I understand that we have to come down on each other when we start to slip and we should hard if needed but there is a line. When someone resorts to childish name calling, and I'll be the first to admit it (e.g. "you Fuck"), personal attacks, etc. then the situation is no longer helpful. That kind of negativity breeds negativity and spirals downhill as we have seen in his thread from hell. Your intentions may have been just and I can tell quitting means a lot to you which it should. I can be a real asshole when I think someone is just straight-up being a complete douchebag prick; I just have always been that way. But I really prefer not to be like that and like to call others Brother and offer and receive support and friendship.
STC- Hey man it doesn't matter how long you have been quit! What matters is that you are quit! You and me make our daily promise each day and both know we will be there for each other.
Waketech quit with STC
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I haven't been here long but you know I agree that if you join this site to quit then follow the rules and post roll everyday. I understand the importance of it now. It's much more than simply just adding your name to a long list....its making a vow to yourself and your brothers that you will be honest and stay nic free for that day. With that core value driving it, I can see how those who don't put in the time post or take it seriously is kind of like a slap to their fellow brothers who DO put in the time and commitment. I will tell you all now that I will do my part and stay true.
That being said, what's the deal with all these people saying "adios" and "I'm out of here"?? That's not what hard core quitters do is it?
STC-This thread may have not been the most productive, but maybe it received attention for a reason.
Nobody is going anywhere--- idol threats--- you can't get enough of this place-----even when you say "your gone" you still need to see how people respond to that statement.
We all need this place for a reason! This is a great place to quit! It feels fucking wonderful to be quit! It feels GREAT knowing that there are others who have you back who are going through the same things as you!
I will quit with you today!
Waketech
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I haven't been here long but you know I agree that if you join this site to quit then follow the rules and post roll everyday. I understand the importance of it now. It's much more than simply just adding your name to a long list....its making a vow to yourself and your brothers that you will be honest and stay nic free for that day. With that core value driving it, I can see how those who don't put in the time post or take it seriously is kind of like a slap to their fellow brothers who DO put in the time and commitment. I will tell you all now that I will do my part and stay true.
That being said, what's the deal with all these people saying "adios" and "I'm out of here"?? That's not what hard core quitters do is it?
STC-This thread may have not been the most productive, but maybe it received attention for a reason.
Nobody is going anywhere--- idol threats--- you can't get enough of this place-----even when you say "your gone" you still need to see how people respond to that statement.
We all need this place for a reason! This is a great place to quit! It feels fucking wonderful to be quit! It feels GREAT knowing that there are others who have you back who are going through the same things as you!
I will quit with you today!
Waketech
This ain't the first time I've seen this and it won't be the last. Don't let someones piss party affect your quit. Just keep plugging away at your quit, one day at a time. Take what you need and leave the rest....
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I haven't been here long but you know I agree that if you join this site to quit then follow the rules and post roll everyday. I understand the importance of it now. It's much more than simply just adding your name to a long list....its making a vow to yourself and your brothers that you will be honest and stay nic free for that day. With that core value driving it, I can see how those who don't put in the time post or take it seriously is kind of like a slap to their fellow brothers who DO put in the time and commitment. I will tell you all now that I will do my part and stay true.
That being said, what's the deal with all these people saying "adios" and "I'm out of here"?? That's not what hard core quitters do is it?
STC-This thread may have not been the most productive, but maybe it received attention for a reason.
Nobody is going anywhere--- idol threats--- you can't get enough of this place-----even when you say "your gone" you still need to see how people respond to that statement.
We all need this place for a reason! This is a great place to quit! It feels fucking wonderful to be quit! It feels GREAT knowing that there are others who have you back who are going through the same things as you!
I will quit with you today!
Waketech
This ain't the first time I've seen this and it won't be the last. Don't let someones piss party affect your quit. Just keep plugging away at your quit, one day at a time. Take what you need and leave the rest....
Waketech is correct. Look at the numbers on this thread. 1285 views so far. That's a significant and much-needed distraction to struggling quitters. The plan is working. 'na na'
I have intentionally steered clear of this thread the last couple days, because the name calling and arguing are not for me. I'm like Diesel - I get personally caught up in everything. I don't have temperment middle ground. My only means to survive is try to offer brotherhood to everybody. I'm not an internet tough guy as some members here have been called. With that said, I understand the guys who are. I completely accept and welcome them here because they make us stronger as a group. Why? Because there are other hardasses out there who have not yet quit, and that is what it takes to draw them in. I'm not on the "touchy-feely" side either. If the site were 100% on either side of the spectrum, it would become real boring.... real quick. This place is no-holds-barred for the most part, and that's why it works. There are complete assholes here. There are pastors here. The guys who built this house had it figured out. That has been proven to me many times since I've been here, so there's no question in my mind. It is reccomended to "take what you need, and leave the rest". I'll take some quit and take some brotherhood. I'll leave the rest.
You wanna be an internet tough guy? I'll quit with you.
You wanna be a hardass? I'll quit with you.
You wanna be a pansy? I'll quit with you.
You wanna be a part of the brotherhood? I'll quit with you.
You paddle your end of the canoe and I'll paddle mine.
I've got your back if you need help. I expect the same from all of you.
Quit on....
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Wow that escalated quickly... 'Popcorn'
Conflict is good, it brings to light what needs to be said.
My Nov12 quit group jelled much tighter after some major blowups.
We are all here for the quit. I hold my quit so tight to my heart that I will do anything to maintain it, including A FIVE MINUTE ROLL CALL EVERY FUCKING DAY.
'Crazy'