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Title: Absolute Torture
Post by: bigskyken on November 10, 2013, 07:08:00 PM
I've been chewing for roughly 40 years. Quit in '94 for seven years, but the temptation of the "new" Copenhagen Long Cut became too much to resist. So have been back at it straight again since 2001. Problem is I just love the stuff...when I'm driving, after dinner, before bed, just about all the time. My day would start by spitting out last night's chew, brushing my teeth, taking another dip and having a cup of coffee...only got worse the rest of the day.

So I am 50 hours into this, and going nuts on the inside. Toothpicks are my placebo, but not quite cutting it. Got a full can and a partial in the truck, right outside my window. I know that seems like a stupid way to quit, but I work with lots of people who chew, so if I can't quit with it always available, it ain't going to happen. And I hate bumming off other people!

I looked at a couple of the documents on this site, and they are spot-on. That damn can has had a firm grip on me for too long, so I am determined beat it for good this time. Wish me luck...I will let you know how I make it through the week.

Ken
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: Mthomas3824 on November 10, 2013, 07:30:00 PM
Ken,

I don't doubt that you think you love the stuff. I thought I did too.

You don't and I didn't! That is addiction. You don't love it, you are an addict.

Go 100 days with exactness, post everyday and follow this plan without objection. Then read this post again.

I love my life more tobacco free.

Your "love" for nic is so one sided. Financially, add up how much she cost you to love her. Not just price per can. What about any dental work. What about times you left special moment in your life to suck on a weed? What about the emotional worry invested in thinking you might have mouth cancer?

You paid a great price and for what? A nicotine buzz? What other value or love did US tobacco give you?

Clear, nicotine free minds start to see that love and price is one sided with addiction. Quit today, do without and follow this plan. After 100 days, you should recover enough to think more about what you require to love and what you get for loving.

I hate that bitch!
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: Jlud007 on November 10, 2013, 07:34:00 PM
Quote from: bigskyken
I've been chewing for roughly 40 years.  Quit in '94 for seven years, but the temptation of the "new" Copenhagen Long Cut became too much to resist.  So have been back at it straight again since 2001.  Problem is I just love the stuff...when I'm driving, after dinner, before bed, just about all the time.  My day would start by spitting out last night's chew, brushing my teeth, taking another dip and having a cup of coffee...only got worse the rest of the day.

So I am 50 hours into this, and going nuts on the inside.  Toothpicks are my placebo, but not quite cutting it.  Got a full can and a partial in the truck, right outside my window. I know that seems like a stupid way to quit, but I work with lots of people who chew, so if I can't quit with it always available, it ain't going to happen. And I hate bumming off other people!

I looked at a couple of the documents on this site, and they are spot-on.  That damn can has had a firm grip on me for too long, so I am determined beat it for good this time.  Wish me luck...I will let you know how I make it through the week.

Ken
First let me welcome you to the site Ken, you've found a great resource in the battle against your addiction to nicotine. Reading your intro that may be the first thing you need to know, your an addict like the rest of us here. The monster can creep back into your life at any time, which you already know having "stopped" chewing for a number of years. I thought I would miss my buddy the Kodiak bear, hell read my intro..... seems kinda sad now. Would I miss my jaw and tongue more? Would my kids miss their Dad more? Read the story of Tom and Jenny Kern's Story (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/jenny-tom-kerns-story/)

Someone that loves being addicted to a poisonous weed doesn't go looking for a way to quit..... do they?

I would advise you check out the Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13)

Then I would dump your stash, don't plan to fail before you've even begun.

Then find your way over to the February '14 pre HOF group and post roll.

We don't hope, try or wish you luck here. We quit, we make a daily promise to one another and we keep it. Simple as that.
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: bigskyken on November 10, 2013, 09:43:00 PM
Of course you guys are right, I am an addict without doubt. I've tried to tell myself all sorts of bullshit stories over the years, like "I can control it" or "If I can quit for a day, then I'm not addicted." But basically, if I don't have a chew in my mouth, all I'm thinking about is getting my next dip. I hate being held hostage to anything, especially something that can kill me. So, I am resolved to kick its ass, but it is still damn miserable in the meanwhile! Thanks for the encouragement...I will keep you posted.
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: Mogul on November 10, 2013, 10:15:00 PM
Ken, for the very addicted there is always the tequila technique. Read my intro called "Mogul Intro" and puke your way out. OK, it may be extreme but I needed extreme. Now, all I have to do is think about the smell and I puke on the spot. I am never going back. and,,,, the benefit,,, I can puke on command. Think about it....

Mogul
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: Wt57 on November 10, 2013, 10:30:00 PM
Quote from: bigskyken
I've been chewing for roughly 40 years. Quit in '94 for seven years, but the temptation of the "new" Copenhagen Long Cut became too much to resist. So have been back at it straight again since 2001. Problem is I just love the stuff...when I'm driving, after dinner, before bed, just about all the time. My day would start by spitting out last night's chew, brushing my teeth, taking another dip and having a cup of coffee...only got worse the rest of the day.

So I am 50 hours into this, and going nuts on the inside. Toothpicks are my placebo, but not quite cutting it. Got a full can and a partial in the truck, right outside my window. I know that seems like a stupid way to quit, but I work with lots of people who chew, so if I can't quit with it always available, it ain't going to happen. And I hate bumming off other people!

I looked at a couple of the documents on this site, and they are spot-on. That damn can has had a firm grip on me for too long, so I am determined beat it for good this time. Wish me luck...I will let you know how I make it through the week.

Ken
Shit Ken, you sound like me in a number of ways. I also slept with the bitch and hardly ever had a time there wasn't poison in my mouth. Fuck if I knew I was going to be in a situation where several hours I wouldn't be able to have a pinch in I'd swallow a few pinches of Copenhagen and let my gut meter poison to my system. I'm also a 40+ year addict. I've been nicotine free for 587 days and I knew day one that this was a different experience than any of my past pauses. If your serious why leave a backup plan of a can and half just steps away? Don't you think all of us have it available? Just last weekend I had a battle in a convenience store with the bitch and my fucked up addict mind. Don't tempt fate.
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: bigskyken on November 11, 2013, 07:05:00 AM
Shit Ken, you sound like me in a number of ways. I also slept with the bitch and hardly ever had a time there wasn't poison in my mouth. Fuck if I knew I was going to be in a situation where several hours I wouldn't be able to have a pinch in I'd swallow a few pinches of Copenhagen and let my gut meter poison to my system. I'm also a 40+ year addict. I've been nicotine free for 587 days and I knew day one that this was a different experience than any of my past pauses. If your serious why leave a backup plan of a can and half just steps away? Don't you think all of us have it available? Just last weekend I had a battle in a convenience store with the bitch and my fucked up addict mind. Don't tempt fate.[/QUOTE]

Yeah Wt57, looks like we have a similar history. I dumped my Copenhagen at the gas stAtion this morning. Painful, but glad it's gone.
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: srans on November 11, 2013, 08:21:00 AM
Quote from: bigskyken
Shit Ken, you sound like me in a number of ways. I also slept with the bitch and hardly ever had a time there wasn't poison in my mouth. Fuck if I knew I was going to be in a situation where several hours I wouldn't be able to have a pinch in I'd swallow a few pinches of Copenhagen and let my gut meter poison to my system. I'm also a 40+ year addict. I've been nicotine free for 587 days and I knew day one that this was a different experience than any of my past pauses. If your serious why leave a backup plan of a can and half just steps away? Don't you think all of us have it available? Just last weekend I had a battle in a convenience store with the bitch and my fucked up addict mind. Don't tempt fate.
Yeah Wt57, looks like we have a similar history. I dumped my Copenhagen at the gas stAtion this morning. Painful, but glad it's gone. [/QUOTE]
Congratulations and welcome. Glad to hear you trashed your stash ken. I had some real battles in the beginning. One thing I can tell you for sure!! I would have caved on several occasions if I had the poison readily available. I can understand your thinking, but realize your addicted mind doesn't know how to handle quitting. It will try and talk you in to all sorts of things and all of them will involve nicotine.

I had a real rough time at the beginning with friends and co workers that used, but after time I began feeling sorry for them. I learned everything I could about nicotine and addiction. This gave me the hate for it that I needed to make this quit final. My recommendation is read everything you can on this site. Learn your enemy brother.!.! Find out the truths to the lies you believe.

If you haven't go to the top left. Read every thing in the welcome center. Learn how and why we post roll. Pay particular attention to why. Posting roll is the cornerstone of what we do here. It's why 1,000's are successfully quitting on this site. You can keep your word for a day right?? Post roll daily, exchange phone numbers and get involved. Stay a while,, make some friends. This site will help more than you can imagine. Need a number let me know. Glad to be quit with you.
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: bigskyken on November 11, 2013, 10:15:00 PM
Friggin' miserable all day, but Day 3 is in the bag. Hope'n my stomach gets back to normal soon.
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: Mogul on November 11, 2013, 10:26:00 PM
Ken, my stomach was the problem too. Fog and stomach. Actually I kinda enjoyed the Fog. but then again I am a freak. However, I was very nauseated and sick to my stomach. the shitter was where I lived for the better part of 5 days. Weird ones too. OK, gross I know but we might as well tell the truth.

Stay quit man, it's worth every second.

Mogul
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: bigskyken on November 13, 2013, 01:06:00 AM
Thanks mogul. It's tough, but I'm kicking nic's ass. Just can't wait to get past this feeling like I'm going to puke 24/7. All I know is that after 34 years of the poison, I ain't going through this crap again...one day at a time, for good!
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: brettlees on November 13, 2013, 09:45:00 AM
Hi Ken- hang in there, the stomach stuff does go away! that was one of the most uncomfortable things about every time i ever stopped for a few days. Sometimes it came as gas pains that literally doubled me over and made it so I couldn't sleep. BUT... once you wait it out, however long it lingers, it will never come back again as long as you stay quit. And this site's plan will help you stay quit if you follow it.
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: ParadigmDawg on November 13, 2013, 09:45:00 AM
Sure, nicotine takes about 72 hours to leave you body but guess what....your body is use to living on nicotine so it is about to fight you and fight you hard.

I am not trying to scare you or make things sound too hard to do, I just want you to be geared up and prepared.

The next 50-100 days are going to be difficult and you will have many bad days and a few good days. Use those good days to recharge your batteries and prepare for the next round of the fight. Quit one hour at a time, if that's too difficult, quit for one minute at a time.

When you think about it 100 days isn't very long but it can seem like forever when you are in the middle of it. You can do this and I will stand right beside you while you do it.

I need you to be successful so I know that I can stay successful in my quit.
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: Bean on November 13, 2013, 10:00:00 AM
Bigsky...congrats on a great choice. But what is with all the complaining? You're like a recently released prison pining for the confines of his cement cell. YOU'RE FREE NOW!!! There is no going back.

Your attitude will determine your success. Start noticing all the victories...daily victories, post-meal victories, etc. YOU GOT THIS, BROTHER!!! You know what REALLY DOES SUCK? Feeding tubes, disfiguring surgery, life with out a bottom jaw, looking like a monster to all who love you the most, torturing loved ones over your loss for something that YOU did to yourself. Get your head straight and start to realize that NOTHING about being quit sucks. That is just the Nic talking. Ignore that bitch.

YOU GOT THIS, BROTHER!!!
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: Mthomas3824 on November 13, 2013, 12:17:00 PM
Triggers and rewire. Making it to the HOF, you will experience everything and know the drill from that point on.

To make it 100 days, you can only get there by focusing on quitting and fighting today. Tomorrow will be here soon enough but who gives a shit about tomorrow....until you have your quit victory today!

Addiction becomes extremely hard if you think you can't feel this way for one more day or if you think you will cave someday so why suffer today. That is all too much mental mastrubation from the addictive brain.

Trick that addiction back. Fuck you addiction! I haven't quit forever, I am only quit today and will not use today. I can cave when its Tomorrow...If I need to. Funny but after you win your match and you wake...It will be "Today". Yesterday battle is over, Tomorrow's battled doesn't even matter until you win todays battle.

So you post roll every time its "today". Repeat, Repeat and Repeat.

It is good to be prepared. You will have some really, really bad days after detox. (Triggers) You will also have really really great days. Read what you can expect and talk to your brothers about it. They feel or have felt the same. Then a newbie quitter comes in and you will relate to what they feel because you've been there and can shed some light on the trail to freedom! Fight today and stay quit today. Then post when tomorrow becomes today......
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: Ace121x on November 13, 2013, 12:52:00 PM
Quote from: bigskyken
Thanks mogul. It's tough, but I'm kicking nic's ass. Just can't wait to get past this feeling like I'm going to puke 24/7. All I know is that after 34 years of the poison, I ain't going through this crap again...one day at a time, for good!
Hang in there Ken, alot of good people here to help you make it through. I am right here with ya (Day 4) and understand what you are going through as well. Lets beat this bitch together for good.
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: georgehayduke on November 13, 2013, 10:39:00 PM
Welcome bigskyken. Look forward to the Quit with you. Your experience sounds very familiar to mine. Morning to night with a dip in my lip for 30 years.

Finding every excuse and lie to get another can. What a waste. My first couple of days, I still had a brand new can in my car. Didn't touch it, thought maybe a quit could be stronger if you could do it with access. After all, we will always be exposed to tobacco and can just go around the corner to get a can. Let me tell you, I felt much better throwing that brand new can in the dumpster and giving it the finger!

Keep up the quit and feel free to reach out for any help.
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: Ace121x on November 13, 2013, 10:57:00 PM
Quote from: GeorgeHayduke
Welcome bigskyken. Look forward to the Quit with you. Your experience sounds very familiar to mine. Morning to night with a dip in my lip for 30 years.

Finding every excuse and lie to get another can. What a waste. My first couple of days, I still had a brand new can in my car. Didn't touch it, thought maybe a quit could be stronger if you could do it with access. After all, we will always be exposed to tobacco and can just go around the corner to get a can. Let me tell you, I felt much better throwing that brand new can in the dumpster and giving it the finger!

Keep up the quit and feel free to reach out for any help.
I agree with this, I kept a can in my room the first day thinking I would have to be around it sooner or later anyway. However, I also felt much better after throwing it away.
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: bigskyken on November 14, 2013, 02:28:00 AM
Going into Day 6, and my perspective is changing. For too damn many years I must have thought I was the only person to come up with exceptional performances and excuses to allow my ninja dipping to continue. My vision was so focused on hiding my habit (to those I love) and the extent of my habit (to everyone else), that I didn't realize Nic had made me a such an asshole. The torture of doing without ain't nothing compared to the torture of being in her grip all these years - or the torture that still may arrive as a consequence of so damn many years of chewing that shit.

Reading the accounts of other addicts, posts and PMs of encouragement and brotherhood, and focusing on the moment are all working to strengthen my quit. I'm not going to let myself or you down.
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: Scowick65 on November 14, 2013, 08:19:00 AM
Quote from: bigskyken
Going into Day 6, and my perspective is changing. For too damn many years I must have thought I was the only person to come up with exceptional performances and excuses to allow my ninja dipping to continue. My vision was so focused on hiding my habit (to those I love) and the extent of my habit (to everyone else), that I didn't realize Nic had made me a such an asshole. The torture of doing without ain't nothing compared to the torture of being in her grip all these years - or the torture that still may arrive as a consequence of so damn many years of chewing that shit.

Reading the accounts of other addicts, posts and PMs of encouragement and brotherhood, and focusing on the moment are all working to strengthen my quit. I'm not going to let myself or you down.
Great job. Laser, laser focus on today.
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: Bean on November 14, 2013, 11:30:00 AM
6 Days is HUGE!!! Congrats. But remember, that's just the beginning. The nicotine may be out of your system, but the Nic Bitch is still in your psyche. Triggers are everywhere. You'll notice them months from now...that feeling of "hey, this is the first time I've done this without a lip turd since _____ ." Again, the key to dealing with triggers is your ATTITUDE.

See triggers as reminders of your new FREEDOM...not your past. Take it One Day At A Time. And embrace it...all of it, the good, the bad, the no sleep night sweats, the white-knuckled face splash in the bathroom sink, the constipation...all of it. See it this way...you GET to feel this crappy because you CHOSE to quit. That is heroic as fuck. You are not only saving your own life, but leading all quitters (including me) by your example. If that isn't cause to celebrate, I don't know what is.

YOU GOT THIS, BROTHER!!!
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: Sh4string on November 14, 2013, 11:45:00 AM
It gets better!!! As a fellow ninja(former) I can tell you posting roll makes a huge difference...accountability and support helps. Day 25 clean!! I quit with you today! Listen to the veterans....they know how to win!!
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: Ace121x on November 14, 2013, 12:15:00 PM
Quote from: bigskyken
Going into Day 6, and my perspective is changing. For too damn many years I must have thought I was the only person to come up with exceptional performances and excuses to allow my ninja dipping to continue. My vision was so focused on hiding my habit (to those I love) and the extent of my habit (to everyone else), that I didn't realize Nic had made me a such an asshole. The torture of doing without ain't nothing compared to the torture of being in her grip all these years - or the torture that still may arrive as a consequence of so damn many years of chewing that shit.

Reading the accounts of other addicts, posts and PMs of encouragement and brotherhood, and focusing on the moment are all working to strengthen my quit. I'm not going to let myself or you down.
Thats awesome brother, couldn't be happier to be rid of this nasty addiction today
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: georgehayduke on November 14, 2013, 07:21:00 PM
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: bigskyken
Going into Day 6, and my perspective is changing.  For too damn many years I must have thought I was the only person to come up with exceptional performances and excuses to allow my ninja dipping to continue.  My vision was so focused on hiding my habit (to those I love) and the extent of my habit (to everyone else), that I didn't realize Nic had made me a such an asshole.  The torture of doing without ain't nothing compared to the torture of being in her grip all these years - or the torture that still may arrive as a consequence of so damn many years of chewing that shit.

Reading the accounts of other addicts, posts and PMs of encouragement and brotherhood, and focusing on the moment are all working to strengthen my quit.  I'm not going to let myself or you down.
Great job. Laser, laser focus on today.
Right there with you. Spent so much time sneaking dips, hiding and lying about it. The dip was killing me and the hiding and lying was killing relationships. The quit has made me feel much more respect for myself and I won't let my guard down. Keep up the day by day fight and we'll see each other to the hot.
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: Grizzfall on November 14, 2013, 08:11:00 PM
Quote from: GeorgeHayduke
Quote from: Scowick65
Quote from: bigskyken
Going into Day 6, and my perspective is changing.  For too damn many years I must have thought I was the only person to come up with exceptional performances and excuses to allow my ninja dipping to continue.  My vision was so focused on hiding my habit (to those I love) and the extent of my habit (to everyone else), that I didn't realize Nic had made me a such an asshole.  The torture of doing without ain't nothing compared to the torture of being in her grip all these years - or the torture that still may arrive as a consequence of so damn many years of chewing that shit.

Reading the accounts of other addicts, posts and PMs of encouragement and brotherhood, and focusing on the moment are all working to strengthen my quit.  I'm not going to let myself or you down.
Great job. Laser, laser focus on today.
Right there with you. Spent so much time sneaking dips, hiding and lying about it. The dip was killing me and the hiding and lying was killing relationships. The quit has made me feel much more respect for myself and I won't let my guard down. Keep up the day by day fight and we'll see each other to the hot.
Sometimes its quite therepeutic to realize you were an asshole while you dipped. I was. I would skip out of every productive social situation to have a dip by myself. How many different girls went unpleasured by my flacid lonely cock remains a mystery. Im married now, but regret the lost opportunity given away to a stinky tin of impotency.
Do better by me.
Grizzfall.
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: Mogul on November 14, 2013, 08:13:00 PM
Grizz,  that was freaking funny... ON the floor LMAO funny.
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: bigskyken on November 15, 2013, 04:10:00 PM
I needed that Grizz...Here I am one hour away from a full week of no chew, and nic's nagging me ruthlessly. She's making a hard sell, but its just upsetting me more. I'm quit, and am sticking to it.
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: bigskyken on November 20, 2013, 02:54:00 PM
Early on several of you told me to dump my stash...which I did. But right now I'd like to kill each and every one of you, but instead I will just thank you because there is no doubt that I'd have quit quitting by now if it was that handy to access. For me it isn't ODAAT, instead it is OMAAT!
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: mattyf118 on November 20, 2013, 03:02:00 PM
Quote from: bigskyken
Early on several of you told me to dump my stash...which I did. But right now I'd like to kill each and every one of you, but instead I will just thank you because there is no doubt that I'd have quit quitting by now if it was that handy to access. For me it isn't ODAAT, instead it is OMAAT!
if that's what you need then I quit with you for this minute.
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: Bean on November 20, 2013, 03:10:00 PM
Quote from: mattyf118
Quote from: bigskyken
Early on several of you told me to dump my stash...which I did.  But right now I'd like to kill each and every one of you, but instead I will just thank you because there is no doubt that I'd have quit quitting by now if it was that handy to access.  For me it isn't ODAAT, instead it is OMAAT!
if that's what you need then I quit with you for this minute.
Yep...you're doing it right. Climbing the walls, no sleep, white knuckles, constipation, anxiety, consufusion...all symptoms of FREEDOM. And you are earing it day by day, hour by hour, minute by minute. Congrats, brother. That is cause for celebration. Give yourself a big double overhead hand clap high five...then sit back down real quick before your co-workers have you arrested.
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: SirDerek on November 20, 2013, 03:39:00 PM
Quote from: Bean
Quote from: mattyf118
Quote from: bigskyken
Early on several of you told me to dump my stash...which I did.  But right now I'd like to kill each and every one of you, but instead I will just thank you because there is no doubt that I'd have quit quitting by now if it was that handy to access.  For me it isn't ODAAT, instead it is OMAAT!
if that's what you need then I quit with you for this minute.
Yep...you're doing it right. Climbing the walls, no sleep, white knuckles, constipation, anxiety, consufusion...all symptoms of FREEDOM. And you are earing it day by day, hour by hour, minute by minute. Congrats, brother. That is cause for celebration. Give yourself a big double overhead hand clap high five...then sit back down real quick before your co-workers have you arrested.
there was a guy who told us early in his quit he would measure the blocks he drove home from work to get through it.

You got this big, and can do it. Its a whatever it takes, so keep putting your name on roll, and call us names if you need, But that bond of your word is strong.

am right beside you....
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: Bruce on November 20, 2013, 07:51:00 PM
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: Bean
Quote from: mattyf118
Quote from: bigskyken
Early on several of you told me to dump my stash...which I did.  But right now I'd like to kill each and every one of you, but instead I will just thank you because there is no doubt that I'd have quit quitting by now if it was that handy to access.  For me it isn't ODAAT, instead it is OMAAT!
if that's what you need then I quit with you for this minute.
Yep...you're doing it right. Climbing the walls, no sleep, white knuckles, constipation, anxiety, consufusion...all symptoms of FREEDOM. And you are earing it day by day, hour by hour, minute by minute. Congrats, brother. That is cause for celebration. Give yourself a big double overhead hand clap high five...then sit back down real quick before your co-workers have you arrested.
there was a guy who told us early in his quit he would measure the blocks he drove home from work to get through it.

You got this big, and can do it. Its a whatever it takes, so keep putting your name on roll, and call us names if you need, But that bond of your word is strong.

am right beside you....
That's solid gold, bare knuckles bare back dry humping fight right there. Keep it up, quit today
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: srans on November 20, 2013, 08:03:00 PM
Quote from: Bruce
Quote from: SirDerek
Quote from: Bean
Quote from: mattyf118
Quote from: bigskyken
Early on several of you told me to dump my stash...which I did.  But right now I'd like to kill each and every one of you, but instead I will just thank you because there is no doubt that I'd have quit quitting by now if it was that handy to access.  For me it isn't ODAAT, instead it is OMAAT!
if that's what you need then I quit with you for this minute.
Yep...you're doing it right. Climbing the walls, no sleep, white knuckles, constipation, anxiety, consufusion...all symptoms of FREEDOM. And you are earing it day by day, hour by hour, minute by minute. Congrats, brother. That is cause for celebration. Give yourself a big double overhead hand clap high five...then sit back down real quick before your co-workers have you arrested.
there was a guy who told us early in his quit he would measure the blocks he drove home from work to get through it.

You got this big, and can do it. Its a whatever it takes, so keep putting your name on roll, and call us names if you need, But that bond of your word is strong.

am right beside you....
That's solid gold, bare knuckles bare back dry humping fight right there. Keep it up, quit today
Some people come to play quit. Some people come to act like their quit. Not you my friend! Your the real deal. Get mad at the poison, it kept you bound tied and gagged long enough. Read my signature line. I quit with you this minute my friend.
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: bigskyken on November 20, 2013, 09:23:00 PM
I never understood women that stayed in abusive relationships. Their husbands/boyfriends would beat them up, but then they go back to them, telling themselves it will be different "this time". So why do I keep wanting to go back to Nic? If make no sense at all, except to an addict.

Thanks for all the support guys, I'm quit with each of you.
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: Bruce on November 20, 2013, 09:31:00 PM
Quote from: bigskyken
I never understood women that stayed in abusive relationships. Their husbands/boyfriends would beat them up, but then they go back to them, telling themselves it will be different "this time". So why do I keep wanting to go back to Nic? If make no sense at all, except to an addict.

Thanks for all the support guys, I'm quit with each of you.
That's exactly it, to our addicted fucked up mind it makes perfect sense. There's no reason, there's no logic, nothing that can convince you otherwise. Except hatred. Hatred is what draws me back from that edge. Fuck anything that thinks it can control me to that point. Fuck being a slave to that bitch. Fuck paying big tabacco to kill you. Not today, ain't happenin
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: bigskyken on November 21, 2013, 07:14:00 PM
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That's exactly it, to our addicted fucked up mind it makes perfect sense. There's no reason, there's no logic, nothing that can convince you otherwise. Except hatred. Hatred is what draws me back from that edge. Fuck anything that thinks it can control me to that point. Fuck being a slave to that bitch. Fuck paying big tabacco to kill you. Not today, ain't happenin


Bruce, my first "quit" was in '94 and it lasted for 7 years. There were lots of things that played into my return to Nic's call, but it was an easy choice for me to make because my "quit" was really focused on doing it "for the kids" or "for my wife", which are fine reasons, but ultimately not enough. The real missing ingredient in that quit was that I had no hatred of Copenhagen, the hatred that you emphasized in your response. Indeed, I longed to return every single day for 7 years, with only fond memories of my long lost addiction. I can now admit that I am developing a very healthy hatred of all things-Nic, and so long as I keep that in the forefront, going back will never happen! And this "Quit" will be the real Quit!
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: srans on November 21, 2013, 07:35:00 PM
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That's exactly it, to our addicted fucked up mind it makes perfect sense. There's no reason, there's no logic, nothing that can convince you otherwise. Except hatred. Hatred is what draws me back from that edge. Fuck anything that thinks it can control me to that point. Fuck being a slave to that bitch. Fuck paying big tabacco to kill you. Not today, ain't happenin
Bruce, my first "quit" was in '94 and it lasted for 7 years. There were lots of things that played into my return to Nic's call, but it was an easy choice for me to make because my "quit" was really focused on doing it "for the kids" or "for my wife", which are fine reasons, but ultimately not enough. The real missing ingredient in that quit was that I had no hatred of Copenhagen, the hatred that you emphasized in your response. Indeed, I longed to return every single day for 7 years, with only fond memories of my long lost addiction. I can now admit that I am developing a very healthy hatred of all things-Nic, and so long as I keep that in the forefront, going back will never happen! And this "Quit" will be the real Quit!
I'm hearing a quitter somewhere around here. Where there is hate for the poison there is quit close buy. Glad to be quit with you.
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: Mthomas3824 on November 21, 2013, 09:47:00 PM
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That's exactly it, to our addicted fucked up mind it makes perfect sense. There's no reason, there's no logic, nothing that can convince you otherwise. Except hatred. Hatred is what draws me back from that edge. Fuck anything that thinks it can control me to that point. Fuck being a slave to that bitch. Fuck paying big tabacco to kill you. Not today, ain't happenin
Bruce, my first "quit" was in '94 and it lasted for 7 years. There were lots of things that played into my return to Nic's call, but it was an easy choice for me to make because my "quit" was really focused on doing it "for the kids" or "for my wife", which are fine reasons, but ultimately not enough. The real missing ingredient in that quit was that I had no hatred of Copenhagen, the hatred that you emphasized in your response. Indeed, I longed to return every single day for 7 years, with only fond memories of my long lost addiction. I can now admit that I am developing a very healthy hatred of all things-Nic, and so long as I keep that in the forefront, going back will never happen! And this "Quit" will be the real Quit!
I'm hearing a quitter somewhere around here. Where there is hate for the poison there is quit close buy. Glad to be quit with you.
Bigskyken,

That is a really thought provoking comparison.

I dig your style. Expecting to see you around for a long, long time.

Quit with you.
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: Bruce on November 21, 2013, 10:12:00 PM
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That's exactly it, to our addicted fucked up mind it makes perfect sense. There's no reason, there's no logic, nothing that can convince you otherwise. Except hatred. Hatred is what draws me back from that edge. Fuck anything that thinks it can control me to that point. Fuck being a slave to that bitch. Fuck paying big tabacco to kill you. Not today, ain't happenin
Bruce, my first "quit" was in '94 and it lasted for 7 years. There were lots of things that played into my return to Nic's call, but it was an easy choice for me to make because my "quit" was really focused on doing it "for the kids" or "for my wife", which are fine reasons, but ultimately not enough. The real missing ingredient in that quit was that I had no hatred of Copenhagen, the hatred that you emphasized in your response. Indeed, I longed to return every single day for 7 years, with only fond memories of my long lost addiction. I can now admit that I am developing a very healthy hatred of all things-Nic, and so long as I keep that in the forefront, going back will never happen! And this "Quit" will be the real Quit!
I'm hearing a quitter somewhere around here. Where there is hate for the poison there is quit close buy. Glad to be quit with you.
Bigskyken,

That is a really thought provoking comparison.

I dig your style. Expecting to see you around for a long, long time.

Quit with you.
cowboy
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: brettlees on November 22, 2013, 10:51:00 AM
Hey bigskyken that seems famailiar to me from my love affair with cope too- although I don't think I ever stopped 7 years, my longer stops were never for me. I don't think i ever realized that I was worth the stop- i was so caught up in listening to the nic bitch's whispers I never paid real attention to taking care of myself. This time is different. You got this too- I'm thinking we'll both make this one work for good! Keep it rolling!
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: bigskyken on November 23, 2013, 12:27:00 AM
The Price of a Dip (https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-CEw5zru6pVo/UpA7nDNUsGI/AAAAAAAAB44/3cBBcAjd8DM/w482-h722-no/IMG_4016-Edit.jpg)
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: srans on November 23, 2013, 08:12:00 AM
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The Price of a Dip (https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-CEw5zru6pVo/UpA7nDNUsGI/AAAAAAAAB44/3cBBcAjd8DM/w482-h722-no/IMG_4016-Edit.jpg)
That would be a cool avatar brother. Just a thought for you. Quit on.
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: bigskyken on November 29, 2013, 09:33:00 PM
It's been a tough SOB these past 48 hrs. Family visiting, health issues, all sorts of stressors happening. Stopped for gas on the way home this evening and had to go inside send get milk....and there she was behind the counter. She winked and flirted, he'll I believe she was starting to show me some skin, and then it happened. All of you KTC bastards jumped in the way of my view because of a stinking promise I made you this morning. So, to all of you I say, F- you and thank you!
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: Grizzlyhasclaws on November 29, 2013, 10:05:00 PM
Fight on brother!!
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: Mogul on November 30, 2013, 12:08:00 AM
Bigsky, man do I get that. Went in to my favorite gas station called Racetrac here in Dallas. Got some coffee and water for the road. Largest display I have ever seen behind the counter. Cope, grizz, skoal, it was all there. Even my behated Husky fine cut natural. I just smiled and was thankful to all my quit group. Funny, it wasn't that hard.
Title: Re: Absolute Torture
Post by: srans on November 30, 2013, 08:13:00 AM
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It's been a tough SOB these past 48 hrs. Family visiting, health issues, all sorts of stressors happening.  Stopped for gas on the way home this evening and had to go inside send get milk....and there she was behind the counter. She winked and flirted, he'll I believe she was starting to show me some skin, and then it happened. All of you KTC bastards jumped in the way of my view because of a stinking promise I made you this morning. So, to all of you I say, F- you and thank you!
Put that in the win column bsk. I make you one promise today my friend. You will walk into that store one day and have a whole different outlook.

I once seen what you see. Now I see a round, colorful can of dirt that means slavery once again. I see death, slavery and something that 100's of 1000's use their hard earned money for. I see something that I spent over 25,000 dollars on. I see stupidity, lunacy and ignorance.

Reach deep and start changing your perspective. Quit with you today.