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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: CavMan83 on June 11, 2014, 08:53:00 AM
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Good morning KTC Community and especially my new-found friends in the HOF September 2014 quit group.
This is my second quit....I've been a Copenhagen user for nearly 40 years....
Believe it or not, I actually managed to get the beast off my back and out of my system (or so I thought), in March of 1993 (before FORUMs and Chat Rooms existed, far as I know). Stayed that way for 14, nearly 15 months. Committed the cardinal sin while fishing with a buddy in Logan Martin ("one won't hurt")....bought a can at a convenience store on the way home from the lake and went right back to it like I never ever quit.
Please believe me when I tell you that one WILL hurt....there's no denying that truth, and now it's 2 decades later. I don't even want to know how many dollars I have wasted on a habit I had already "kicked" once. 'bang head'
I delayed my quit for about a week this time; I had done a bit of research on Chantix and if it had any success rates with helping smokeless users quit...decided to try it. Am now on Day 8 of Chantix and Day 1 of Quit #2. So far not unbearable, but as I posted roll this morning, I know I'm going to need to lean on people...I turned into an a #1 ass during the first quit (wife didn't appreciate it too much); don't want to have a repeat of that.
There are also two important dates tied to this quit...today would have been my father's 80th birthday (I still miss him even after six years), and day 100 just happens to be the wife's birthday.
Not looking forward to the next three or four days, but I am looking forward to being quit.
Respectfully,
JDW
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Cavman, I see that you posted roll so you have made the best start possible! Just a small correction in that you didn't quit in 1993, rather you stopped for 14 months. We are all addicts here, and we need to rewire our brains a bit so we can quit one day at a time. Lean on us, and stay close to the site today.
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Good morning KTC Community and especially my new-found friends in the HOF September 2014 quit group.
This is my second quit....I've been a Copenhagen user for nearly 40 years....
Believe it or not, I actually managed to get the beast off my back and out of my system (or so I thought), in March of 1993 (before FORUMs and Chat Rooms existed, far as I know). Stayed that way for 14, nearly 15 months. Committed the cardinal sin while fishing with a buddy in Logan Martin ("one won't hurt")....bought a can at a convenience store on the way home from the lake and went right back to it like I never ever quit.
Please believe me when I tell you that one WILL hurt....there's no denying that truth, and now it's 2 decades later. I don't even want to know how many dollars I have wasted on a habit I had already "kicked" once. 'bang head'
I delayed my quit for about a week this time; I had done a bit of research on Chantix and if it had any success rates with helping smokeless users quit...decided to try it. Am now on Day 8 of Chantix and Day 1 of Quit #2. So far not unbearable, but as I posted roll this morning, I know I'm going to need to lean on people...I turned into an a #1 ass during the first quit (wife didn't appreciate it too much); don't want to have a repeat of that.
There are also two important dates tied to this quit...today would have been my father's 80th birthday (I still miss him even after six years), and day 100 just happens to be the wife's birthday.
Not looking forward to the next three or four days, but I am looking forward to being quit.
Respectfully,
JDW
I am glad to see you made the decision to join. I think we spoke before about the reasoning behind your quit. A couple of things. You have never quit nic. You only stopped before. Now your are quit and will continue. Post roll, read the intros and stories, join chat, and utilize the tools. We are here for you to lean on. Yell at us. Swear and rage in here on your intro. Not to your loved ones. I am looking forward to us helping each other. QLF dude.
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Good morning KTC Community and especially my new-found friends in the HOF September 2014 quit group.
This is my second quit....I've been a Copenhagen user for nearly 40 years....
Believe it or not, I actually managed to get the beast off my back and out of my system (or so I thought), in March of 1993 (before FORUMs and Chat Rooms existed, far as I know). Stayed that way for 14, nearly 15 months. Committed the cardinal sin while fishing with a buddy in Logan Martin ("one won't hurt")....bought a can at a convenience store on the way home from the lake and went right back to it like I never ever quit.
Please believe me when I tell you that one WILL hurt....there's no denying that truth, and now it's 2 decades later. I don't even want to know how many dollars I have wasted on a habit I had already "kicked" once. 'bang head'
I delayed my quit for about a week this time; I had done a bit of research on Chantix and if it had any success rates with helping smokeless users quit...decided to try it. Am now on Day 8 of Chantix and Day 1 of Quit #2. So far not unbearable, but as I posted roll this morning, I know I'm going to need to lean on people...I turned into an a #1 ass during the first quit (wife didn't appreciate it too much); don't want to have a repeat of that.
There are also two important dates tied to this quit...today would have been my father's 80th birthday (I still miss him even after six years), and day 100 just happens to be the wife's birthday.
Not looking forward to the next three or four days, but I am looking forward to being quit.
Respectfully,
JDW
You've been through this before so you know whats coming. It won't be as hard on you since you are doing Chantix however...Be very alert as to your thoughts/feelings on Chantix. If you start feeling weird and thinking bad things, stop taking it. I've heard a few on here say getting off the Chantix was as bad as the first few days of no dip so why take it at all? I would throw the shit away just like you did the tin.
And you're right about chat rooms and forums. In 93 Al Gore hadn't invented the internet yet. Stick with this quit.
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Thumblewort/sixercountry,
Acknowledge both...you are right....merely interrupted the habit for a bit. Now that I know better, I will NEVER start again....that's the only way I can stay quit. This is going to suck, but I've been down this road before. Thanks for the responses.
R,
JDW
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merely interrupted the habit for a bit.
One correction to your mindset that will make a huge difference...
This is not a habit.
You have an addiction. Her name is nicotine and she wants you dead. This really is life and death bro.
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Welcome aboard from another 40+ year addict. I also paused a couple of times for 3 years and made the "only one" mistake. Now I quit each new day and enjoy the freedom. My experience with chantix was good other than some bad ass dreams.
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Wt57,
Never again....there's no such thing as "only one"....guess Lay's potato chips had it right! Chantix seems to be helping; I bought some Bacc-off yesterday just in case, but haven't even used that today....sitting here chewing furiously on a piece of big red. Had a mild crave about an hour ago...got up from the desk, walked around the building for a bit; I am stronger than this. Just because I'm an addict, as AppleJack says, don't mean I'm a weak addict.
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Wt57,
Never again....there's no such thing as "only one"....guess Lay's potato chips had it right! Chantix seems to be helping; I bought some Bacc-off yesterday just in case, but haven't even used that today....sitting here chewing furiously on a piece of big red. Had a mild crave about an hour ago...got up from the desk, walked around the building for a bit; I am stronger than this. Just because I'm an addict, as AppleJack says, don't mean I'm a weak addict.
I never get tired of being reminded that we can never have "just one" Its sucks that you didn't stay quit JDW but we are glad you found us. I dipped for 26 years and was finally able to quit because of this site and these Brothers and Sisters that support me. Welcome!
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rdad,
Thanks. I've been back to the site like 10-20 times and it's not even noon....it really does help to read the words of those in it and still going strong....still haven't used the Bacc-off yet. Headed to the gym...that should help. thanks again.
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rdad,
Thanks. I've been back to the site like 10-20 times and it's not even noon....it really does help to read the words of those in it and still going strong....still haven't used the Bacc-off yet. Headed to the gym...that should help. thanks again.
I check this site 10-20 a day as well (Day 69). Whatever it takes not to use nicotine. Stay strong CavMan.
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Just because I'm an addict, as AppleJack says, don't mean I'm a weak addict.
Wasn't labeling you to be weak brother... terminology is important here. It can help to set the mind right. You'll see lots of new phrases and mantras in your time here. We do it for a reason... to keep ourselves in the mindframe that being quit is an ever active pursuit. Knowing and admitting you're an addict is HUGE.
Fight on man. You need someone in your corner just ask... I'll be there!
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AppleJack,
Thanks. Having this site is HUGE.....just thought if it was around in 1994 hell, I may have stayed quit then...craving for Copenhagen strong as all get out....but I gave a whole bunch of complete strangers my word that I wouldn't dip today....damned if I'm going to be labled a liar.
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Congrats on the quit, and good job posting roll. Make sure you do it every day, without fail. Make it a priority. Many quitters have decided that it wasn't that important to post every day. Most of them eventually had to come back and post day 1 again. Don't be that guy. Get in here and post everyday. Welcome.
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You're getting good advice, from guys i consider top-notch! keep it up and reach out if you need anything!
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You're getting good advice, from guys i consider top-notch! keep it up and reach out if you need anything!
looks like you are doing all the right things and have some bad ass quitters here to help you. I can't help but not like that Cav is in your name though!! Every time I look at it I read cave!!
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EC's Dad,
"I can't help but not like that Cav is in your name though!! Every time I look at it I read cave!!"
Sorry, didn't even think about that...As I said to UH60Crewchief, it's from the Cavalry...I'm an old Armored Cavalry dude from way back in the day. CAV (short "a')....not CAVE (long "a"). This site is friggin' awesome....wish it had been around years ago. Honesty, Integrity, Accountability.....more than words.....tools to help an addict.
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Just read this intro...what I love about it: 1) adds resolve to my quit; another textbook example of how the addict can't have just one. As quitters, we need to be reminded of these traps every day. No matter the number of your day, 5 or 5000, we're all one $5 bad decision away from Day 1. 2) Newbie comes in and sucks it all in. Reading, learning, and becoming active right out of the gates. This is how you quit and it's people like this who inspire. Don't stop; accelerate and advance that quit by continuing to be active on the site and in your quit group. Glad to see you here, looking forward to seeing you on roll tomorrow.
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hey how's it going today Cav? I see you made roll- that's the secret. Check in when you can, give updates. Since you don't text much, I highly recommend using your intro thread a lot here -- tell folks how it's going, and create a journal that will remind you what you never want to go through another time-- the whole process of cleaning up and rewiring. A little something extra to ensure that this is your true quit, courtesy of the KTC method.
Quit with you today.
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Brett,
Friggin head hurts for whatever reason....sticking to my word. Just PM'd DaveKnight how it is wierd that posting to a group of folks you've never met that you won't use today has such a strong accountability effect, but I'm glad it does. Gym was good for me tho. 8:00 tonight is close of day 2....biding time patiently waiting for the agitation inside to slack off a bit....kind of like your whole innards are going through a shredder and you just want it to stop....but hanging in there. Have had about 6 pinches of Bacc-Off, can't really say that's helping.
Thanks much for asking. This site, and these folks, are truly awesome.
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Just get through it for right now, you're doing what you should- post and power through, keeping your word, learning, and making friends here. Symptoms will come and go- when you feel good use that to power you through the next low spot. You got this!
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To my KTC brothers and sisters,
Sitting here watching the news and the agitation inside still roiling and saw a Terminix commercial "Not here, Not now, Not in my house".
All due respect to Terminix (have no idea whether that's copyrighted, which it may be) but for me right at the present moment in time and space, I have altered it....
NOT HERE, NOT NOW, NOT IN MY LIP......
I am forever grateful for the words of wisdom on this site....and for the KTC Community
LOOT, I confess I did not PM the FNGs my cell number but I did offer that if they needed it to PM me. Lesson learned, as I already have about 10 numbers and never know when I will need to reach out to someone. As soon as I hit send here, will PM them both. I sure as heck don't want to be a stumbling block for any BAQ.
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....sitting here chewing furiously on a piece of big red.
Cav,
That entire statement sounds like what I am going through. Big Red happens to be my weapon of choice against the Nic Bitch. I also have to get up and walk around when the cravings strike. I have a pedometer on my phone, so I have seen a large increase in my steps since my quit. We are almost out of the fog now bro. Stay Strong! Stay QLF!
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This is kind of a journal for me, but what the hell....you guys are family so I don't mind sharing ;~)
0200 -- three day's running. What the hell am I waking up at two o'clock in the friggin' morning for? At least this morning I wasn't soaked with sweat (small victories). Going to try and describe what the feeling is like (and I think I remember reading this somewhere a long long time ago)...it's like the receptors my brain had created (or altered) to accept the constant uptake of nicotine are now being starved and are behaving like crazed beasts, wreaking havoc inside my brain, which in turn creates those feelings of serious agitation throughout my whole body and puts those thoughts of HAVING to have a Dip front and center into consciousness.
I know how to make it stop, INSTANTLY....but I also know that's exactly what the nicotine bitch wants me to do....so that's exactly what I WILL NOT DO.
I'm going to starve her and all her little crazed beasts to DEATH. Once she's dead, (and I'm praying that comes within the next day or so at about the 3-4 day mark), I'm going to make sure she STAYS dead. I will never, EVER put a nicotine product, tobacco or otherwise, in my body again.
Kinda like LOOT said....want to make sure I remember what a monumental SUCK these past couple days have been and sear it into my conscience so that I never go back. Still kicking myself for the "just one" mistake on Logan Martin that spring day 20 damn years ago. There will be no more of that in my future life.
Oh, yeah, and for those of you that have never priced life insurance....the difference in preferred select and tobacco user policy pricing will make your blood run cold....same policy, same term period, damn near FOUR TIMES... ($231 vs $914)...and that is a MONTH, ladies and gentlemen....I'm sorry, but there's no way in hell I'm going to go back to a product that I paid more than $150 a month for that's going to cause me to have to spend more than ten grand a year on life insurance...
I am just now beginning to understand why so many veterans actually HATE tobacco..... I can remember when I thought UST was my friend. HA; the only thing they wanted from me was continued patronage, and didn't give a rat's ass whether I got cancer or not. Then I read just the other day where they actually manipulate the pH of Cope to make the nicotine absorption that much HIGHER....bastards.
I'm damn near nicotine free (completely)...it has been almost 60 hours since I spit out my last dip....my brain is re-learning how to be 'me' without a drug that ml for ml is more deadly than strychnine or arsenic and that I was putting enough of into my body to actually kill a small rodent -- all day, EVERY day for the vast majority of my life.
There's no way I'm going back this time...."just one" be damned.....
At least I did manage to get back to sleep following the 0200 wakeups. (again, small victories).
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This is kind of a journal for me, but what the hell....you guys are family so I don't mind sharing ;~)
0200 -- three day's running. What the hell am I waking up at two o'clock in the friggin' morning for? At least this morning I wasn't soaked with sweat (small victories). Going to try and describe what the feeling is like (and I think I remember reading this somewhere a long long time ago)...it's like the receptors my brain had created (or altered) to accept the constant uptake of nicotine are now being starved and are behaving like crazed beasts, wreaking havoc inside my brain, which in turn creates those feelings of serious agitation throughout my whole body and puts those thoughts of HAVING to have a Dip front and center into consciousness.
I know how to make it stop, INSTANTLY....but I also know that's exactly what the nicotine bitch wants me to do....so that's exactly what I WILL NOT DO.
I'm going to starve her and all her little crazed beasts to DEATH. Once she's dead, (and I'm praying that comes within the next day or so at about the 3-4 day mark), I'm going to make sure she STAYS dead. I will never, EVER put a nicotine product, tobacco or otherwise, in my body again.
Kinda like LOOT said....want to make sure I remember what a monumental SUCK these past couple days have been and sear it into my conscience so that I never go back. Still kicking myself for the "just one" mistake on Logan Martin that spring day 20 damn years ago. There will be no more of that in my future life.
Oh, yeah, and for those of you that have never priced life insurance....the difference in preferred select and tobacco user policy pricing will make your blood run cold....same policy, same term period, damn near FOUR TIMES... ($231 vs $914)...and that is a MONTH, ladies and gentlemen....I'm sorry, but there's no way in hell I'm going to go back to a product that I paid more than $150 a month for that's going to cause me to have to spend more than ten grand a year on life insurance...
I am just now beginning to understand why so many veterans actually HATE tobacco..... I can remember when I thought UST was my friend. HA; the only thing they wanted from me was continued patronage, and didn't give a rat's ass whether I got cancer or not. Then I read just the other day where they actually manipulate the pH of Cope to make the nicotine absorption that much HIGHER....bastards.
I'm damn near nicotine free (completely)...it has been almost 60 hours since I spit out my last dip....my brain is re-learning how to be 'me' without a drug that ml for ml is more deadly than strychnine or arsenic and that I was putting enough of into my body to actually kill a small rodent -- all day, EVERY day for the vast majority of my life.
There's no way I'm going back this time...."just one" be damned.....
At least I did manage to get back to sleep following the 0200 wakeups. (again, small victories).
Great post Cav,
I'm still a young buck, so I didn't know about life ins. That is a steep difference in price. All the more incentive to kick the nicotine bitch to the curb. Looks like you have been doing your research. Small victories win wars (unless of course your government has a weak ass foreign policy and the president is a yellow-belly). Lesson, don't be a yellow belly or have a weak ass foreign policy. Quit like Fuck!
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Note to self -- okay, made it through the supposed physical withdrawal. Spending a good deal of time on KTC pages helped. Learned a lot about nicotine and how nasty evil it is. Thought a little too much about Copenhagen (nic demons still alive and well mentally, little bastards take a good while to die off) but know that "just one" is a bald-faced lie. This time is QFL, not quit for 14 months and start all over again. Four decades is a long time to look like a goober with a fat bottom lip. Too long. Long road ahead daily, but I'm going to do this. Going to win. Honor, Integrity, and Accountability so much more than words!
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Note to self -- okay, made it through the supposed physical withdrawal. Spending a good deal of time on KTC pages helped. Learned a lot about nicotine and how nasty evil it is. Thought a little too much about Copenhagen (nic demons still alive and well mentally, little bastards take a good while to die off) but know that "just one" is a bald-faced lie. This time is QFL, not quit for 14 months and start all over again. Four decades is a long time to look like a goober with a fat bottom lip. Too long. Long road ahead daily, but I'm going to do this. Going to win. Honor, Integrity, and Accountability so much more than words!
You've go a great quit started. Keep reading, keep posting, keep the focus, and keep the quit. Quitting is as important as breathing.
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Had my first "dip dream" last night....unbelieveable how real that seemed. Still not sleeping through the night yet, but no more cold sweats. This mental crap is way more demanding. Even though the physical crap's out of the system, the re-wiring of the brain to get rid of all those extra nicotine receptors is going to take some time. Based on NIH report, can take anywhere from six to twelve weeks to do that. http://www.drugabuse.gov/news-events/ni ... -normalize (http://www.drugabuse.gov/news-events/nida-notes/2009/10/abstinent-smokers-nicotinic-receptors-take-more-than-month-to-normalize)
Not going to lie that I am agitated as all hell inside. Fake dip, gum, keep the damned nicotine demons (receptors) from completely overloading, but hell this is a decision....no one's ever died from lack of nicotine, while plenty have died from the cancers that come with it. Am strong in resolve, but damn this SUCKS...feeling like crap, scratchy throat, churning gut, sometimes dizzy spells and in general pissed off at the world. Wonder how long this crap's going to last. Am one day going to be normal....I can't honestly remember what normal is right now.
one day at a time hell....sometimes it's one minute at a time. Not now, not here, not in my Lip. I am recovering and will NOT go back.
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Had my first "dip dream" last night....unbelieveable how real that seemed. Still not sleeping through the night yet, but no more cold sweats. This mental crap is way more demanding. Even though the physical crap's out of the system, the re-wiring of the brain to get rid of all those extra nicotine receptors is going to take some time. Based on NIH report, can take anywhere from six to twelve weeks to do that. http://www.drugabuse.gov/news-events/ni ... -normalize (http://www.drugabuse.gov/news-events/nida-notes/2009/10/abstinent-smokers-nicotinic-receptors-take-more-than-month-to-normalize)
Not going to lie that I am agitated as all hell inside. Fake dip, gum, keep the damned nicotine demons (receptors) from completely overloading, but hell this is a decision....no one's ever died from lack of nicotine, while plenty have died from the cancers that come with it. Am strong in resolve, but damn this SUCKS...feeling like crap, scratchy throat, churning gut, sometimes dizzy spells and in general pissed off at the world. Wonder how long this crap's going to last. Am one day going to be normal....I can't honestly remember what normal is right now.
one day at a time hell....sometimes it's one minute at a time. Not now, not here, not in my Lip. I am recovering and will NOT go back.
With you Cav. Your worst day quitting is better than your best day dipping. Give em hell today, I know I will. Need anything at all, let me know. Proud to quit with you EDD.
J2thaZ
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Had my first "dip dream" last night....unbelieveable how real that seemed. Still not sleeping through the night yet, but no more cold sweats. This mental crap is way more demanding. Even though the physical crap's out of the system, the re-wiring of the brain to get rid of all those extra nicotine receptors is going to take some time. Based on NIH report, can take anywhere from six to twelve weeks to do that. http://www.drugabuse.gov/news-events/ni ... -normalize (http://www.drugabuse.gov/news-events/nida-notes/2009/10/abstinent-smokers-nicotinic-receptors-take-more-than-month-to-normalize)
Not going to lie that I am agitated as all hell inside. Fake dip, gum, keep the damned nicotine demons (receptors) from completely overloading, but hell this is a decision....no one's ever died from lack of nicotine, while plenty have died from the cancers that come with it. Am strong in resolve, but damn this SUCKS...feeling like crap, scratchy throat, churning gut, sometimes dizzy spells and in general pissed off at the world. Wonder how long this crap's going to last. Am one day going to be normal....I can't honestly remember what normal is right now.
one day at a time hell....sometimes it's one minute at a time. Not now, not here, not in my Lip. I am recovering and will NOT go back.
With you Cav. Your worst day quitting is better than your best day dipping. Give em hell today, I know I will. Need anything at all, let me know. Proud to quit with you EDD.
J2thaZ
Great article thanks for posting Cav- that would have made my early weeks easier just to read. I did get a lot of help from others here who had been through the fog- found several by reading intro threads, and also I think it was Work2Win and Jayhawk who told me directly in my Intro or pms that they had LONG and tough fogs early on. I did too. I think it just helps to know others have battled is as well, that you aren't flawed or unique in some scary hopeless way. Let me tell you, for every sucky day, the worse it is, the better it gets later for sure! Many vets kept telling me this, and W2W still assures me, that it keeps getting better. You konw what? They are right! It's tough to imagine because my entire adult life was spent in the addiction, so I really don't know what better means. But I keep my head down, march ahead, post the +1's, and every once in a while stop, take a breath, and notice how things are amazing and new. You're on that path with me now too- glad to have you here-- just keep marching, it's SO worth it!
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Stay strong brother, I'm 131 days quit after dipping for 25 years. Think about Tony Gwynn the next time yoy want to pack your lip. Yes it sucks and not a day goes by without me thinking about it but these guys have saved my life, FUCK IT AND QUIT! !!
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....no one's ever died from lack of nicotine, . Not now, not here, not in my Lip. I am recovering and will NOT go back.
This is so true. I know it sucks right now but you have to believe how good it gets. I like your resolve. You have a great quit started CavMan
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....no one's ever died from lack of nicotine, . Not now, not here, not in my Lip. I am recovering and will NOT go back.
This is so true. I know it sucks right now but you have to believe how good it gets. I like your resolve. You have a great quit started CavMan
this is the way to fight. You are feeling it, you are learning what it has done to your body and what it feels like to get clean. Remember this so that it helps you to remain quit (cause why in the world would you want to go through this again).
keep up the great work, one day at a time, take the small steps as you can do this.
be good, be strong and be quit
yell if you need anything.
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Note to self....not sleeping through the night SUCKS....having a low grade headache all day every day SUCKS....getting dizzy when you move your head too fast or stand up too quick SUCKS....being nauseated SUCKS....not being able to concentrate on metrics you are accountable for at work SUCKS....knowing that you've wasted God only knows how much $$ on a product you didn't need and didn't do a damn thing for you SUCKS...not knowing what it feels like to be normal without all those little demonic nicotine receptors in your brain jumping up and down on your last frayed nerve SUCKS....wondering when this will all change gives me STRENGTH.
I've had a cheap-ass Walmart Poster hanging in my office for nearly two decades, no matter where my office has been. Shows a guy climbing El Capitan in Yosemite. The caption underneath says "Perseverance: You can't let go and still win." Before this quit, I looked at that as a way of dealing with my work duties and pushing through the stupidity that is so often prevalent in the workplace. Now, as I sit here pondering what it's like to be truly recovered and normal, I realize that the same thought process applies to a quit....Perseverance, every day, one day at a time.
The past week has been NOT fun...guess that's why they call it SUCK. But every morning I wake up (after yet another night of not sleeping through the night) I know I'm one morning closer to that day when it doesn't SUCK. Right now, those are the steps I have decided to take.
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BTW, the way KTC counts the days is a little different than I would count them, but I'm not quibbling over methodology. If they want to "give" me an extra day, hell I'll take it. I spit my last dip of Cope out on 10 June at 8pm. The way I look at it, I didn't hit day 1 until the 11th at 8pm. The way they look at it, by the 11th, I was on day 2. That's about the only "freebie" I've had on this quit, but again, I'll take it.
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Note to self....not sleeping through the night SUCKS....having a low grade headache all day every day SUCKS....getting dizzy when you move your head too fast or stand up too quick SUCKS....being nauseated SUCKS....not being able to concentrate on metrics you are accountable for at work SUCKS....knowing that you've wasted God only knows how much $$ on a product you didn't need and didn't do a damn thing for you SUCKS...not knowing what it feels like to be normal without all those little demonic nicotine receptors in your brain jumping up and down on your last frayed nerve SUCKS....wondering when this will all change gives me STRENGTH.
I've had a cheap-ass Walmart Poster hanging in my office for nearly two decades, no matter where my office has been. Shows a guy climbing El Capitan in Yosemite. The caption underneath says "Perseverance: You can't let go and still win." Before this quit, I looked at that as a way of dealing with my work duties and pushing through the stupidity that is so often prevalent in the workplace. Now, as I sit here pondering what it's like to be truly recovered and normal, I realize that the same thought process applies to a quit....Perseverance, every day, one day at a time.
The past week has been NOT fun...guess that's why they call it SUCK. But every morning I wake up (after yet another night of not sleeping through the night) I know I'm one morning closer to that day when it doesn't SUCK. Right now, those are the steps I have decided to take.
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BTW, the way KTC counts the days is a little different than I would count them, but I'm not quibbling over methodology. If they want to "give" me an extra day, hell I'll take it. I spit my last dip of Cope out on 10 June at 8pm. The way I look at it, I didn't hit day 1 until the 11th at 8pm. The way they look at it, by the 11th, I was on day 2. That's about the only "freebie" I've had on this quit, but again, I'll take it.
Great post. You're doing it. Keep building your quit the KTC way. Freedom awaits andan is it sweet!
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Note to self....not sleeping through the night SUCKS....having a low grade headache all day every day SUCKS....getting dizzy when you move your head too fast or stand up too quick SUCKS....being nauseated SUCKS....not being able to concentrate on metrics you are accountable for at work SUCKS....knowing that you've wasted God only knows how much $$ on a product you didn't need and didn't do a damn thing for you SUCKS...not knowing what it feels like to be normal without all those little demonic nicotine receptors in your brain jumping up and down on your last frayed nerve SUCKS....wondering when this will all change gives me STRENGTH.
I've had a cheap-ass Walmart Poster hanging in my office for nearly two decades, no matter where my office has been. Shows a guy climbing El Capitan in Yosemite. The caption underneath says "Perseverance: You can't let go and still win." Before this quit, I looked at that as a way of dealing with my work duties and pushing through the stupidity that is so often prevalent in the workplace. Now, as I sit here pondering what it's like to be truly recovered and normal, I realize that the same thought process applies to a quit....Perseverance, every day, one day at a time.
The past week has been NOT fun...guess that's why they call it SUCK. But every morning I wake up (after yet another night of not sleeping through the night) I know I'm one morning closer to that day when it doesn't SUCK. Right now, those are the steps I have decided to take.
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BTW, the way KTC counts the days is a little different than I would count them, but I'm not quibbling over methodology. If they want to "give" me an extra day, hell I'll take it. I spit my last dip of Cope out on 10 June at 8pm. The way I look at it, I didn't hit day 1 until the 11th at 8pm. The way they look at it, by the 11th, I was on day 2. That's about the only "freebie" I've had on this quit, but again, I'll take it.
CM,
I hope you managed to shake the funk out today. My vision is effed up and Im having headaches. I keep popping Tylenol and moving on.
I quit with you each and every day, brother. Sorry you're feeling the shit. The end is near though.
Steady....
Joe
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Day 10....when the hell am I gonna sleep through the night? Used to sleep like a friggin' ROCK from 2130 to 0500...this waking up in the middle of the night crap SUCKS. At least I can think a little more clearly today than yesterday...may be fog starting to lift a little. Friggin 10 days? Wonder when I'm gonna be "normal"..
no way in hell I'm ever going back. Not least because my brothers the Sultans would beat the ever lovin' shit out of me in cyberspace!! :D
The day I wind up sleeping through the night without a wakeup will be a banner day indeed....
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Day 10....when the hell am I gonna sleep through the night? Used to sleep like a friggin' ROCK from 2130 to 0500...this waking up in the middle of the night crap SUCKS. At least I can think a little more clearly today than yesterday...may be fog starting to lift a little. Friggin 10 days? Wonder when I'm gonna be "normal"..
no way in hell I'm ever going back. Not least because my brothers the Sultans would beat the ever lovin' shit out of me in cyberspace!! :D
The day I wind up sleeping through the night without a wakeup will be a banner day indeed....
And it will come brother, years of poisoning yourself cannot be cure in 10 days! Quit with you today!
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You will do this one day at at a time. You screwed your brain for years,, I say again YEARS!! I'll let you add the days up on your own. You'll probably need a calculator. I say that to say this,,, 10 days is just the beginning. I didn't begin feeling better until about 40 days in. Maybe you will be different though,, you never no. In time you will start to feel better and begin feeling somewhat normal. What is normal exactly!?!? Your guess is as good as mine.
There is a door you need to get to. This door is hard to get to and open. Sharpen your tools, settle in and make your way to the door. I can't tell you how far the door is or how long it will be before you get to this door. You WILL get there one day at a time. I make you one promise and you can take it to the bank. You stay the course and live by this rule (nafar), you will love where this quit takes you.
Your doing great brother, stick with the plan. You got nothing more important than this quit, that is the truth. Need some digits let me know.
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Day 10....when the hell am I gonna sleep through the night? Used to sleep like a friggin' ROCK from 2130 to 0500...this waking up in the middle of the night crap SUCKS. At least I can think a little more clearly today than yesterday...may be fog starting to lift a little. Friggin 10 days? Wonder when I'm gonna be "normal"..
no way in hell I'm ever going back. Not least because my brothers the Sultans would beat the ever lovin' shit out of me in cyberspace!! :D
The day I wind up sleeping through the night without a wakeup will be a banner day indeed....
The first stretch is like surviving a tornado. The good things is once the tornado passes things get better quickly. For most of us the real rough stretch is 1 week to 3 weeks. So you are right in the teeth of it. By day 20 I am sure things will have calmed down. So just buckle down and grind for another week or so. One day at a time. You got this!
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I hate it so much! It is the biggest mistake of my life and I would give just about anything to go back and change that first time. I'd run away or anything to avoid it. I'm on day two and just not happy right now
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40 years of poison, remember that. The suck will fade away. Remember these days so you never want to go through them again.
You are winning.
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I hate it so much! It is the biggest mistake of my life and I would give just about anything to go back and change that first time. I'd run away or anything to avoid it. I'm on day two and just not happy right now
Hating it will make your quit stronger. Dont worry about the past or the future. Only worry about today. Stay quit.
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Day 10....when the hell am I gonna sleep through the night? Used to sleep like a friggin' ROCK from 2130 to 0500...this waking up in the middle of the night crap SUCKS. At least I can think a little more clearly today than yesterday...may be fog starting to lift a little. Friggin 10 days? Wonder when I'm gonna be "normal"..
no way in hell I'm ever going back. Not least because my brothers the Sultans would beat the ever lovin' shit out of me in cyberspace!! :D
The day I wind up sleeping through the night without a wakeup will be a banner day indeed....
And it will come brother, years of poisoning yourself cannot be cure in 10 days! Quit with you today!
CM,
You cave and I'll beat you to sleep.
JoeC
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Cav,
I am experiencing the same sleeping issues. I was lying in bed awake until almost 0230 and had to be up at 5. I sure hope it gets better soon. I quit with you!
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CM,
I hope you only woke up 4 times last night.
Can you believe we both made it to double digits??
That's huge. I quit with you everyday, by brother.
Appears tedn (Ted Nicholas) is starting to get over the funk.
He texted me and said, "Roll call, Bitch". I hadnt posted yet.
Have a good day, my friend.
Joe
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CM,
I hope you only woke up 4 times last night.
Can you believe we both made it to double digits??
That's huge. I quit with you everyday, by brother.
Appears tedn (Ted Nicholas) is starting to get over the funk.
He texted me and said, "Roll call, Bitch". I hadnt posted yet.
Have a good day, my friend.
Joe
Joe,
Good to have friends, even those that bitch at ya!.
Today thru Sunday noon gonna be busy for me. Our entire command group (General, the Brigade Commanders, and the staff) will be here from this afternoon through Sunday morning working through the FY15 long range plan and yearly training updates...I get to open the event by a review of the readiness metrics for the division....so will not get to screw with my buddies on KTC as much as I would otherwise like.
Still not sleeping through the night, but no way in hell I'm gonna cave....I'm going to beat this thing, one small moment after another. NNNHNIML.
Proud to quit with you today, tomorrow, and EDD after that.
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CM,
I hope you only woke up 4 times last night.
Can you believe we both made it to double digits??
That's huge. I quit with you everyday, by brother.
Appears tedn (Ted Nicholas) is starting to get over the funk.
He texted me and said, "Roll call, Bitch". I hadnt posted yet.
Have a good day, my friend.
Joe
Joe,
Good to have friends, even those that bitch at ya!.
Today thru Sunday noon gonna be busy for me. Our entire command group (General, the Brigade Commanders, and the staff) will be here from this afternoon through Sunday morning working through the FY15 long range plan and yearly training updates...I get to open the event by a review of the readiness metrics for the division....so will not get to screw with my buddies on KTC as much as I would otherwise like.
Still not sleeping through the night, but no way in hell I'm gonna cave....I'm going to beat this thing, one small moment after another. NNNHNIML.
Proud to quit with you today, tomorrow, and EDD after that.
If you need help posting, let me know. Got your back.
You have some serious shit going on this weekend. Ask me what Im doing(?)...
going camping and taking the rugrats to the pool.
Thank you for your service.
Joe
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I'm going to beat this thing, one small moment after another.
Srans likes this statement. This is determination and drive. This will get you to the next moment. ;)
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Thank you for your service!! You will win this battle, I'm proof that it can be done one day at a time. I had severe insomnia for the first 3 to 4 weeks of my quit. Benedryl at bedtime helped some, as did sleepy time tea. It is so worth it to be free! You need anything feel free to pm me
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CM,
I hope you only woke up 4 times last night.
Can you believe we both made it to double digits??
That's huge. I quit with you everyday, by brother.
Appears tedn (Ted Nicholas) is starting to get over the funk.
He texted me and said, "Roll call, Bitch". I hadnt posted yet.
Have a good day, my friend.
Joe
Joe,
Good to have friends, even those that bitch at ya!.
Today thru Sunday noon gonna be busy for me. Our entire command group (General, the Brigade Commanders, and the staff) will be here from this afternoon through Sunday morning working through the FY15 long range plan and yearly training updates...I get to open the event by a review of the readiness metrics for the division....so will not get to screw with my buddies on KTC as much as I would otherwise like.
Still not sleeping through the night, but no way in hell I'm gonna cave....I'm going to beat this thing, one small moment after another. NNNHNIML.
Proud to quit with you today, tomorrow, and EDD after that.
If you need help posting, let me know. Got your back.
You have some serious shit going on this weekend. Ask me what Im doing(?)...
going camping and taking the rugrats to the pool.
Thank you for your service.
Joe
I detect a Bro-mance blooming here...anybody care to refute???
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CM,
I hope you only woke up 4 times last night.
Can you believe we both made it to double digits??
That's huge. I quit with you everyday, by brother.
Appears tedn (Ted Nicholas) is starting to get over the funk.
He texted me and said, "Roll call, Bitch". I hadnt posted yet.
Have a good day, my friend.
Joe
Joe,
Good to have friends, even those that bitch at ya!.
Today thru Sunday noon gonna be busy for me. Our entire command group (General, the Brigade Commanders, and the staff) will be here from this afternoon through Sunday morning working through the FY15 long range plan and yearly training updates...I get to open the event by a review of the readiness metrics for the division....so will not get to screw with my buddies on KTC as much as I would otherwise like.
Still not sleeping through the night, but no way in hell I'm gonna cave....I'm going to beat this thing, one small moment after another. NNNHNIML.
Proud to quit with you today, tomorrow, and EDD after that.
If you need help posting, let me know. Got your back.
You have some serious shit going on this weekend. Ask me what Im doing(?)...
going camping and taking the rugrats to the pool.
Thank you for your service.
Joe
I detect a Bro-mance blooming here...anybody care to refute???
Don't be jealous J2; I love [philos] all my Sultan brothers.... :D
That includes lawyers from Gonzaga!!!
Proud to be quit with you all...today, tomorrow, and EDD that follows.
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Damn.....this has turned out to be a rather shitty day. First, Dr. says I MAY have cancer (not oral, but prostate). Wants me to take some antibiotics to be sure it's not an inflamed prostate (prostatitis) and then check back in a month or so to get another PSA reading. But then I log on to KTC to find some serious drama here, one involving one of my Sultan Brothers. Kind of makes me sick at my stomach.
Still quit, and will be quit tomorrow with my Sultans, but today kind of sucked.
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Damn Cav, that's a tough blow to hear. As a Sultan brother you know of you need anything just holler.
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Damn Cav, that's a tough blow to hear. As a Sultan brother you know of you need anything just holler.
Augustinian Triple A's got your back too. Let's hope this isn't the big c. You have a lot of people here to lean on until you get the results. Until then, just focus on +1's.
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First, Dr. says I MAY have cancer (not oral, but prostate).
Praying and wishing for the best for ya man. Keep your thoughts positive and healthy and give me a shout if you need anything.
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First, Dr. says I MAY have cancer (not oral, but prostate).
Praying and wishing for the best for ya man. Keep your thoughts positive and healthy and give me a shout if you need anything.
what this site is really about
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Okay,
So LOOT posted a notice about some of the actions behind the scenes the other day and pulled back the curtain....
I was geniunely shocked and initially told myself I wasn't going to post anything as I didn't want to add to the distractions and interfere with some massive quits that are going on, especially with my beloved Sultans. But the more I think about it, the more LOOT is absolutely correct. Accountability is a two-way street, and the admins/mods of this site have to understand that if posting roll, the bedrock foundation of KTC, is required of quitters, it is MORE than required of them. As I stated in a response to UH60Chief's note.... never tell a Soldier to do something you aren't personally willing to do yourself.
So notice to admins/moderators...
I have decided to monitor the monitors...pretty easy to do using the member search function to zero in on the two groups and see who's been active during the past 24 hours (I did that just a few minutes ago). Besides, gives me something to do....
No disrespect intended razd611, but you win today's door prize.....last activity 20 June, 2014....to a newbie, that's a LIFETIME....
I'll be monitoring daily and providing updates....so if you don't want to be the recipient of tomorrow's prize, you know what to do.....
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merely interrupted the habit for a bit.
One correction to your mindset that will make a huge difference...
This is not a habit.
You have an addiction. Her name is nicotine and she wants you dead. This really is life and death bro.
that change in attitude is what it took for me. I didn't know I was an addict until I am here. then that was it. the warning signs were all over the place..... in the cup in my truck, my finger, my lips, stuck in my teeth, on my carpet, on my bathroom floor... you get the point
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merely interrupted the habit for a bit.
One correction to your mindset that will make a huge difference...
This is not a habit.
You have an addiction. Her name is nicotine and she wants you dead. This really is life and death bro.
that change in attitude is what it took for me. I didn't know I was an addict until I am here. then that was it. the warning signs were all over the place..... in the cup in my truck, my finger, my lips, stuck in my teeth, on my carpet, on my bathroom floor... you get the point
Jeeptruck,
thanks. Appreciate the reminder ^_^ . I wrote that only 12 hours into my quit, so fair enough, I hadn't been properly schooled on my addiction. I got it now.
And I still think you're kicking ass with the Titans of October. Proud to quit with you today.
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Okay,
So LOOT posted a notice about some of the actions behind the scenes the other day and pulled back the curtain....
I was geniunely shocked and initially told myself I wasn't going to post anything as I didn't want to add to the distractions and interfere with some massive quits that are going on, especially with my beloved Sultans. But the more I think about it, the more LOOT is absolutely correct. Accountability is a two-way street, and the admins/mods of this site have to understand that if posting roll, the bedrock foundation of KTC, is required of quitters, it is MORE than required of them. As I stated in a response to UH60Chief's note.... never tell a Soldier to do something you aren't personally willing to do yourself.
So notice to admins/moderators...
I have decided to monitor the monitors...pretty easy to do using the member search function to zero in on the two groups and see who's been active during the past 24 hours (I did that just a few minutes ago). Besides, gives me something to do....
No disrespect intended razd611, but you win today's door prize.....last activity 20 June, 2014....to a newbie, that's a LIFETIME....
I'll be monitoring daily and providing updates....so if you don't want to be the recipient of tomorrow's prize, you know what to do.....
Bump to the front of the line....
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Okay,
So LOOT posted a notice about some of the actions behind the scenes the other day and pulled back the curtain....
I was geniunely shocked and initially told myself I wasn't going to post anything as I didn't want to add to the distractions and interfere with some massive quits that are going on, especially with my beloved Sultans. But the more I think about it, the more LOOT is absolutely correct. Accountability is a two-way street, and the admins/mods of this site have to understand that if posting roll, the bedrock foundation of KTC, is required of quitters, it is MORE than required of them. As I stated in a response to UH60Chief's note.... never tell a Soldier to do something you aren't personally willing to do yourself.
So notice to admins/moderators...
I have decided to monitor the monitors...pretty easy to do using the member search function to zero in on the two groups and see who's been active during the past 24 hours (I did that just a few minutes ago). Besides, gives me something to do....
No disrespect intended razd611, but you win today's door prize.....last activity 20 June, 2014....to a newbie, that's a LIFETIME....
I'll be monitoring daily and providing updates....so if you don't want to be the recipient of tomorrow's prize, you know what to do.....
Bump to the front of the line....
So now it's the second day of my promise to myself...(go monitor the monitors)...
All of them seem to be on their very best behavior, and making multiple posts recently, with the curious exception of razd611, who is still MIA since 20 June. While understandable he may be on vacation in an area of the globe without ANY form of communication, I think that is highly suspect. At any rate, for the second day in a row, he wins today's door prize.
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Okay,
So LOOT posted a notice about some of the actions behind the scenes the other day and pulled back the curtain....
I was geniunely shocked and initially told myself I wasn't going to post anything as I didn't want to add to the distractions and interfere with some massive quits that are going on, especially with my beloved Sultans. But the more I think about it, the more LOOT is absolutely correct. Accountability is a two-way street, and the admins/mods of this site have to understand that if posting roll, the bedrock foundation of KTC, is required of quitters, it is MORE than required of them. As I stated in a response to UH60Chief's note.... never tell a Soldier to do something you aren't personally willing to do yourself.
So notice to admins/moderators...
I have decided to monitor the monitors...pretty easy to do using the member search function to zero in on the two groups and see who's been active during the past 24 hours (I did that just a few minutes ago). Besides, gives me something to do....
No disrespect intended razd611, but you win today's door prize.....last activity 20 June, 2014....to a newbie, that's a LIFETIME....
I'll be monitoring daily and providing updates....so if you don't want to be the recipient of tomorrow's prize, you know what to do.....
Bump to the front of the line....
So now it's the second day of my promise to myself...(go monitor the monitors)...
All of them seem to be on their very best behavior, and making multiple posts recently, with the curious exception of razd611, who is still MIA since 20 June. While understandable he may be on vacation in an area of the globe without ANY form of communication, I think that is highly suspect. At any rate, for the second day in a row, he wins today's door prize.
Have you pmed razd to see if all is ok? He's a solid quitter. I have texted him. Haven't heard back. I hope he's ok.
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Gmann,
no, but I will...thanks.
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Gmann,
no, but I will...thanks.
Thanks. We look out for our brothers. This is not like razd.
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If I had his number, I'd text him....I also imagine someone in the mods group would have it.
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If I had his number, I'd text him....I also imagine someone in the mods group would have it.
We're all looking for him. I'm genuinely worried.
By the way, while you're keeping up with the posting habits of the mods/admins, you will NOT be caving. You might be on to something. I saw where Keddy asked you to look at his posting habits. Whoa. That guy is a support machine. You'll get tired looking at his posts. And his large count is almost entirely support. He doesn't dick around in politics thread like I do. You should stop be there and let out some quit rage.
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If I had his number, I'd text him....I also imagine someone in the mods group would have it.
We're all looking for him. I'm genuinely worried.
By the way, while you're keeping up with the posting habits of the mods/admins, you will NOT be caving. You might be on to something. I saw where Keddy asked you to look at his posting habits. Whoa. That guy is a support machine. You'll get tired looking at his posts. And his large count is almost entirely support. He doesn't dick around in politics thread like I do. You should stop be there and let out some quit rage.
Hes my neighbor, just sent a text. will keep you posted if i hear anything.
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If I had his number, I'd text him....I also imagine someone in the mods group would have it.
We're all looking for him. I'm genuinely worried.
By the way, while you're keeping up with the posting habits of the mods/admins, you will NOT be caving. You might be on to something. I saw where Keddy asked you to look at his posting habits. Whoa. That guy is a support machine. You'll get tired looking at his posts. And his large count is almost entirely support. He doesn't dick around in politics thread like I do. You should stop be there and let out some quit rage.
Hes my neighbor, just sent a text. will keep you posted if i hear anything.
Thanks, Roam.
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If I had his number, I'd text him....I also imagine someone in the mods group would have it.
We're all looking for him. I'm genuinely worried.
By the way, while you're keeping up with the posting habits of the mods/admins, you will NOT be caving. You might be on to something. I saw where Keddy asked you to look at his posting habits. Whoa. That guy is a support machine. You'll get tired looking at his posts. And his large count is almost entirely support. He doesn't dick around in politics thread like I do. You should stop be there and let out some quit rage.
Hes my neighbor, just sent a text. will keep you posted if i hear anything.
Thanks, Roam.
this is exactly the way to look out for one another.
We had a brother in Oct12 just go awol for about 5 days, when we looked he was out at a boy scout camp for a week, woods, no electronics. So completely understandable, but yes we were concerned.
I too will be in that situation in another 2 weeks, the reception there sucks but try each day to send out a text (as I have in the past). And will let my group know so they don't send out the search party.
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If I had his number, I'd text him....I also imagine someone in the mods group would have it.
We're all looking for him. I'm genuinely worried.
By the way, while you're keeping up with the posting habits of the mods/admins, you will NOT be caving. You might be on to something. I saw where Keddy asked you to look at his posting habits. Whoa. That guy is a support machine. You'll get tired looking at his posts. And his large count is almost entirely support. He doesn't dick around in politics thread like I do. You should stop be there and let out some quit rage.
Hes my neighbor, just sent a text. will keep you posted if i hear anything.
Thanks, Roam.
this is exactly the way to look out for one another.
We had a brother in Oct12 just go awol for about 5 days, when we looked he was out at a boy scout camp for a week, woods, no electronics. So completely understandable, but yes we were concerned.
I too will be in that situation in another 2 weeks, the reception there sucks but try each day to send out a text (as I have in the past). And will let my group know so they don't send out the search party.
And let Cavman know. You don't want to get on his shit list. I've met the guy. I don't want on it.
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If I had his number, I'd text him....I also imagine someone in the mods group would have it.
We're all looking for him. I'm genuinely worried.
By the way, while you're keeping up with the posting habits of the mods/admins, you will NOT be caving. You might be on to something. I saw where Keddy asked you to look at his posting habits. Whoa. That guy is a support machine. You'll get tired looking at his posts. And his large count is almost entirely support. He doesn't dick around in politics thread like I do. You should stop be there and let out some quit rage.
Hes my neighbor, just sent a text. will keep you posted if i hear anything.
Thanks, Roam.
this is exactly the way to look out for one another.
We had a brother in Oct12 just go awol for about 5 days, when we looked he was out at a boy scout camp for a week, woods, no electronics. So completely understandable, but yes we were concerned.
I too will be in that situation in another 2 weeks, the reception there sucks but try each day to send out a text (as I have in the past). And will let my group know so they don't send out the search party.
And let Cavman know. You don't want to get on his shit list. I've met the guy. I don't want on it.
Gmann,
Don't worry, I've already looked at your record :D
I"ll still eat lunch with you and the Birmingham crowd anyday!
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If I had his number, I'd text him....I also imagine someone in the mods group would have it.
We're all looking for him. I'm genuinely worried.
By the way, while you're keeping up with the posting habits of the mods/admins, you will NOT be caving. You might be on to something. I saw where Keddy asked you to look at his posting habits. Whoa. That guy is a support machine. You'll get tired looking at his posts. And his large count is almost entirely support. He doesn't dick around in politics thread like I do. You should stop be there and let out some quit rage.
Hes my neighbor, just sent a text. will keep you posted if i hear anything.
Thanks, Roam.
this is exactly the way to look out for one another.
We had a brother in Oct12 just go awol for about 5 days, when we looked he was out at a boy scout camp for a week, woods, no electronics. So completely understandable, but yes we were concerned.
I too will be in that situation in another 2 weeks, the reception there sucks but try each day to send out a text (as I have in the past). And will let my group know so they don't send out the search party.
Great reminder about Scout camp. I know ours limits electronics (by what I have heard). I have never been there so it will be interesting. Fortunately it's right after our vacation. As you said, I will post if I am able (which I should be able to sneak in a phone somewhere unless they do body cavity checks). If I can't post, I will text someone.
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Okay,
So LOOT posted a notice about some of the actions behind the scenes the other day and pulled back the curtain....
I was geniunely shocked and initially told myself I wasn't going to post anything as I didn't want to add to the distractions and interfere with some massive quits that are going on, especially with my beloved Sultans. But the more I think about it, the more LOOT is absolutely correct. Accountability is a two-way street, and the admins/mods of this site have to understand that if posting roll, the bedrock foundation of KTC, is required of quitters, it is MORE than required of them. As I stated in a response to UH60Chief's note.... never tell a Soldier to do something you aren't personally willing to do yourself.
So notice to admins/moderators...
I have decided to monitor the monitors...pretty easy to do using the member search function to zero in on the two groups and see who's been active during the past 24 hours (I did that just a few minutes ago). Besides, gives me something to do....
No disrespect intended razd611, but you win today's door prize.....last activity 20 June, 2014....to a newbie, that's a LIFETIME....
I'll be monitoring daily and providing updates....so if you don't want to be the recipient of tomorrow's prize, you know what to do.....
Bump to the front of the line....
KTC should always be about "Do as I do" and not "Do as I say". Maybe this shake up will do a lot of good, I hope. Keep on quitting.
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Okay,
So LOOT posted a notice about some of the actions behind the scenes the other day and pulled back the curtain....
I was geniunely shocked and initially told myself I wasn't going to post anything as I didn't want to add to the distractions and interfere with some massive quits that are going on, especially with my beloved Sultans. But the more I think about it, the more LOOT is absolutely correct. Accountability is a two-way street, and the admins/mods of this site have to understand that if posting roll, the bedrock foundation of KTC, is required of quitters, it is MORE than required of them. As I stated in a response to UH60Chief's note.... never tell a Soldier to do something you aren't personally willing to do yourself.
So notice to admins/moderators...
I have decided to monitor the monitors...pretty easy to do using the member search function to zero in on the two groups and see who's been active during the past 24 hours (I did that just a few minutes ago). Besides, gives me something to do....
No disrespect intended razd611, but you win today's door prize.....last activity 20 June, 2014....to a newbie, that's a LIFETIME....
I'll be monitoring daily and providing updates....so if you don't want to be the recipient of tomorrow's prize, you know what to do.....
Bump to the front of the line....
KTC should always be about "Do as I do" and not "Do as I say". Maybe this shake up will do a lot of good, I hope. Keep on quitting.
CavMan - who's our big winner for today?
conbud has his hand to his ear... as all the mods/admins scurry to post roll somewhere to claim their forced integrity for the day.
I know it's been a while for many of you so this link may come in handy 3) How to Post ROLL CALL (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1003072/1/?x=90#new)
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Conbud,
We have a repeat winner....but in all fairness, he may be in a part of the country that don't get too good cell reception. But you would'a thunk he would have let one of his quit buddies know that before going away for an extended vacation.
I do share Gmann's concern that something is wrong at the razd611 household and hope that is not the truth.
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Conbud,
How the hell did this post three friggin' times???
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wish there was a delete button on superfluous posts....
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wish there was a delete button on superfluous posts....
Edit.....poof
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Conbud,
We have a repeat winner....but in all fairness, he may be in a part of the country that don't get too good cell reception. But you would'a thunk he would have let one of his quit buddies know that before going away for an extended vacation.
I do share Gmann's concern that something is wrong at the razd611 household and hope that is not the truth.
I haven't heard back from my text and neither have others, to my knowledge.
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Conbud,
We have a repeat winner....but in all fairness, he may be in a part of the country that don't get too good cell reception. But you would'a thunk he would have let one of his quit buddies know that before going away for an extended vacation.
I do share Gmann's concern that something is wrong at the razd611 household and hope that is not the truth.
I haven't heard back from my text and neither have others, to my knowledge.
Gmann,
Then reiterating the last statement....sincerely hope things are okay.
I've not received any response either.
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Conbud,
We have a repeat winner....but in all fairness, he may be in a part of the country that don't get too good cell reception. But you would'a thunk he would have let one of his quit buddies know that before going away for an extended vacation.
I do share Gmann's concern that something is wrong at the razd611 household and hope that is not the truth.
I haven't heard back from my text and neither have others, to my knowledge.
Gmann,
Then reiterating the last statement....sincerely hope things are okay.
I've not received any response either.
Others have not heard back either. Let's hope he just got gillagan's islanded and there's a mary ann there. always preferred mary ann to ginger. sorta girl next door versus fake.
Carry on with your fine quit, sir.
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Anyone heard from him? Anyone???
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Anyone heard from him? Anyone???
Yup.
He started answering texts this morning and posted roll Razd's posts (http://forum.killthecan.org/search/?c=3&mid=212375&month=6&year=2014).
Very unusual for him. I guess his phone was being all funky while on vacation. I'll send him your way sir.
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Guess Tarpon17's on vacation. last post 27 June.
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Guess Tarpon17's on vacation. last post 27 June.
accountability at all levels. thanks. Check your PM
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Anyone heard from him? Anyone???
Yup.
He started answering texts this morning and posted roll Razd's posts (http://forum.killthecan.org/search/?c=3&mid=212375&month=6&year=2014).
Very unusual for him. I guess his phone was being all funky while on vacation. I'll send him your way sir.
Yep, back in the saddle and back to work 'bang head' . Phone was not playing nice, couldnt make calls, wasn't sending or receiving texts.
Oh and thanks for the :jan13trophy:
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Now that speaks bounds for a support system when someone falls off radar, all hands till we find them other places I've tried take more of the "oh well" approach.
QLF!!! With all of you!!
Jarhead
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Now that speaks bounds for a support system when someone falls off radar, all hands till we find them other places I've tried take more of the "oh well" approach.
QLF!!! With all of you!!
Jarhead
This is what makes us different.
And effective.
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Now that speaks bounds for a support system when someone falls off radar, all hands till we find them other places I've tried take more of the "oh well" approach.
QLF!!! With all of you!!
Jarhead
This is what makes us different.
And effective.
and it made Nolaq Ghey.......
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Now that speaks bounds for a support system when someone falls off radar, all hands till we find them other places I've tried take more of the "oh well" approach.
QLF!!! With all of you!!
Jarhead
This is what makes us different.
And effective.
and it made Nolaq Ghey.......
Great....now I have THIS on my intro page for the rest of my life..... :D
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So I've been taking some flak lately for trying to force folks to post EARLY, EVERY DAMN DAY. I honestly don't understand what is wrong with that picture...posting early means that you won't, despite all the pressures of the day, succumb to using. Much more effective, in my humble opinion, than waiting to post at the END of the day.
I will continue to call out my Sultan brothers who decide that posting at the end of the day (sometimes AFTER I send them a text reminding them to do so, which I pretty much wind up doing every day anyways), is the best way to quit... personally I think that is BS.
But that's just me, I suppose. Also, I've noticed that most of the moderators and admins are getting "with it" and posting daily (I'm still watching....it is, after all, the BEDROCK of KTC...posting EDD)...even old Tarpon17 asked me to post for him when he went on vacation (guess he didn't want to be the recipient of the trophy!! ^_^ )
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So I've been taking some flak lately for trying to force folks to post EARLY, EVERY DAMN DAY. I honestly don't understand what is wrong with that picture...posting early means that you won't, despite all the pressures of the day, succumb to using. Much more effective, in my humble opinion, than waiting to post at the END of the day.
I will continue to call out my Sultan brothers who decide that posting at the end of the day (sometimes AFTER I send them a text reminding them to do so, which I pretty much wind up doing every day anyways), is the best way to quit... personally I think that is BS.
But that's just me, I suppose. Also, I've noticed that most of the moderators and admins are getting "with it" and posting daily (I'm still watching....it is, after all, the BEDROCK of KTC...posting EDD)...even old Tarpon17 asked me to post for him when he went on vacation (guess he didn't want to be the recipient of the trophy!! ^_^ )
Most?
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So I've been taking some flak lately for trying to force folks to post EARLY, EVERY DAMN DAY. I honestly don't understand what is wrong with that picture...posting early means that you won't, despite all the pressures of the day, succumb to using. Much more effective, in my humble opinion, than waiting to post at the END of the day.
I will continue to call out my Sultan brothers who decide that posting at the end of the day (sometimes AFTER I send them a text reminding them to do so, which I pretty much wind up doing every day anyways), is the best way to quit... personally I think that is BS.
But that's just me, I suppose. Also, I've noticed that most of the moderators and admins are getting "with it" and posting daily (I'm still watching....it is, after all, the BEDROCK of KTC...posting EDD)...even old Tarpon17 asked me to post for him when he went on vacation (guess he didn't want to be the recipient of the trophy!! ^_^ )
Most?
Always enjoy seeing this guy laying it down. You got a great quit going. Keep writing and I'll keep reading. ;)
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So I've been taking some flak lately for trying to force folks to post EARLY, EVERY DAMN DAY. I honestly don't understand what is wrong with that picture...posting early means that you won't, despite all the pressures of the day, succumb to using. Much more effective, in my humble opinion, than waiting to post at the END of the day.
I will continue to call out my Sultan brothers who decide that posting at the end of the day (sometimes AFTER I send them a text reminding them to do so, which I pretty much wind up doing every day anyways), is the best way to quit... personally I think that is BS.
But that's just me, I suppose. Also, I've noticed that most of the moderators and admins are getting "with it" and posting daily (I'm still watching....it is, after all, the BEDROCK of KTC...posting EDD)...even old Tarpon17 asked me to post for him when he went on vacation (guess he didn't want to be the recipient of the trophy!! ^_^ )
Most?
Always enjoy seeing this guy laying it down. You got a great quit going. Keep writing and I'll keep reading. ;)
I like your style as well Cavman. Wake up, piss, post. Anything else is an excuse. Keep on doing what you're doing. As with any cavalry man worth his salt, lead the charge!
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So I've been taking some flak lately for trying to force folks to post EARLY, EVERY DAMN DAY. I honestly don't understand what is wrong with that picture...posting early means that you won't, despite all the pressures of the day, succumb to using. Much more effective, in my humble opinion, than waiting to post at the END of the day.
I will continue to call out my Sultan brothers who decide that posting at the end of the day (sometimes AFTER I send them a text reminding them to do so, which I pretty much wind up doing every day anyways), is the best way to quit... personally I think that is BS.
But that's just me, I suppose. Also, I've noticed that most of the moderators and admins are getting "with it" and posting daily (I'm still watching....it is, after all, the BEDROCK of KTC...posting EDD)...even old Tarpon17 asked me to post for him when he went on vacation (guess he didn't want to be the recipient of the trophy!! ^_^ )
Most?
Always enjoy seeing this guy laying it down. You got a great quit going. Keep writing and I'll keep reading. ;)
I like your style as well Cavman. Wake up, piss, post. Anything else is an excuse. Keep on doing what you're doing. As with any cavalry man worth his salt, lead the charge!
This is clear to me. Keep after them brother. I am Quittin with u today.
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So I've been taking some flak lately for trying to force folks to post EARLY, EVERY DAMN DAY. I honestly don't understand what is wrong with that picture...posting early means that you won't, despite all the pressures of the day, succumb to using. Much more effective, in my humble opinion, than waiting to post at the END of the day.
I will continue to call out my Sultan brothers who decide that posting at the end of the day (sometimes AFTER I send them a text reminding them to do so, which I pretty much wind up doing every day anyways), is the best way to quit... personally I think that is BS.
But that's just me, I suppose. Also, I've noticed that most of the moderators and admins are getting "with it" and posting daily (I'm still watching....it is, after all, the BEDROCK of KTC...posting EDD)...even old Tarpon17 asked me to post for him when he went on vacation (guess he didn't want to be the recipient of the trophy!! ^_^ )
Most?
Yes, WP...MOST...
Redyota is out on a backpacking trek across Wyoming or someplace....he posted on the 12th he'd be out of comms. So not ALL, but most.
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So am on vacation for the first time in probably four or five years. Went horseback riding through the Gettysburg battlefield, saw Independence Hall and the Liberty Bell, toured New York City and saw the Statue and Ellis Island, all nicotine free. Made me think about the definition of liberty -- freedom. Made me very glad to have found this site and the accountability that comes with it. Freedom, truly, is not free, but is worth the price of admission.
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So am on vacation for the first time in probably four or five years. Went horseback riding through the Gettysburg battlefield, saw Independence Hall and the Liberty Bell, toured New York City and saw the Statue and Ellis Island, all nicotine free. Made me think about the definition of liberty -- freedom. Made me very glad to have found this site and the accountability that comes with it. Freedom, truly, is not free, but is worth the price of admission.
Thats awesome man...could not have worded that any better. I know exactly what you mean. Proud as hell to quit with you brother. If your swinging through anywhere near Buffalo in your travels, hit me up. We can get together for some quit.
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So am on vacation for the first time in probably four or five years. Went horseback riding through the Gettysburg battlefield, saw Independence Hall and the Liberty Bell, toured New York City and saw the Statue and Ellis Island, all nicotine free. Made me think about the definition of liberty -- freedom. Made me very glad to have found this site and the accountability that comes with it. Freedom, truly, is not free, but is worth the price of admission.
Thats awesome man...could not have worded that any better. I know exactly what you mean. Proud as hell to quit with you brother. If your swinging through anywhere near Buffalo in your travels, hit me up. We can get together for some quit.
Paul,
Unfortunately, won't be getting to Upstate this trip. Am in Central PA hoping like heck it doesn't rain tomorrow...race at Pocono, ya know.
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So am on vacation for the first time in probably four or five years. Went horseback riding through the Gettysburg battlefield, saw Independence Hall and the Liberty Bell, toured New York City and saw the Statue and Ellis Island, all nicotine free. Made me think about the definition of liberty -- freedom. Made me very glad to have found this site and the accountability that comes with it. Freedom, truly, is not free, but is worth the price of admission.
Thats awesome man...could not have worded that any better. I know exactly what you mean. Proud as hell to quit with you brother. If your swinging through anywhere near Buffalo in your travels, hit me up. We can get together for some quit.
Paul,
Unfortunately, won't be getting to Upstate this trip. Am in Central PA hoping like heck it doesn't rain tomorrow...race at Pocono, ya know.
Good deal man...hope the weather stays clear for you. Have a good time at the race. Thats an awesome area. My wife and I actually went to one of the Pocono resorts for our honeymoon. Enjoy brother
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Guess scowick and tarpon have better things to do than post....just looked and the last time either was up on KTC was 2 days ago. hmmmm.....
Wonder at what point it's okay for quitters to not post?
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Guess scowick and tarpon have better things to do than post....just looked and the last time either was up on KTC was 2 days ago. hmmmm.....
Wonder at what point it's okay for quitters to not post?
Don't know why Scowick missed, but Tarp got on roll via a buddy yesterday (check his quit month). Just for clarification.
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Guess scowick and tarpon have better things to do than post....just looked and the last time either was up on KTC was 2 days ago. hmmmm.....
Wonder at what point it's okay for quitters to not post?
Did you pm and ask them, post on their intros, or ask their quit groups? (Doesn't sound like it based on knockouts reply)
Or are you just trying to stir up some shit?
If this really bugs you or you're truly concerned, then go straight to the horses, don't throw their names on your intro, trying to rally some kind of witch hunt.
Be a Fucking man of you're gonna call someone out.
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Guess scowick and tarpon have better things to do than post....just looked and the last time either was up on KTC was 2 days ago. hmmmm.....
Wonder at what point it's okay for quitters to not post?
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Guess scowick and tarpon have better things to do than post....just looked and the last time either was up on KTC was 2 days ago. hmmmm.....
Wonder at what point it's okay for quitters to not post?
Have to agree with Diesel. Do your research. You could go to their quit group and ask them where their missing brother is. 99% of the time this approach should resolve it. You could send a PM and ask them if they are ok. The same steps that I hope you use in your own quit group. There is nothing wrong with asking about the status of anyone on this site. Go about it as you would if someone is missing in your own group before calling them out in your intro. I understand why you are doing it and have nothing against it.. Just modify your approach. My .02
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Guess scowick and tarpon have better things to do than post....just looked and the last time either was up on KTC was 2 days ago. hmmmm.....
Wonder at what point it's okay for quitters to not post?
Did you pm and ask them, post on their intros, or ask their quit groups? (Doesn't sound like it based on knockouts reply)
Or are you just trying to stir up some shit?
If this really bugs you or you're truly concerned, then go straight to the horses, don't throw their names on your intro, trying to rally some kind of witch hunt.
Be a Fucking man of you're gonna call someone out.
Actually I did PM Tarp...
I'm not trying to stir up anything...just pointing out that if the bedrock of this site is daily posting, then it should apply equally across the board, to everyone.
And the two missing yesterday, I took yours and Ron Cross' advice and PM'd them directly.
If you think I'm being an ass, okay....guess I'll just be an ass in your book..I'm okay with that.
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Guess scowick and tarpon have better things to do than post....just looked and the last time either was up on KTC was 2 days ago. hmmmm.....
Wonder at what point it's okay for quitters to not post?
Did you pm and ask them, post on their intros, or ask their quit groups? (Doesn't sound like it based on knockouts reply)
Or are you just trying to stir up some shit?
If this really bugs you or you're truly concerned, then go straight to the horses, don't throw their names on your intro, trying to rally some kind of witch hunt.
Be a Fucking man of you're gonna call someone out.
Actually I did PM Tarp...
I'm not trying to stir up anything...just pointing out that if the bedrock of this site is daily posting, then it should apply equally across the board, to everyone.
And the two missing yesterday, I took yours and Ron Cross' advice and PM'd them directly.
If you think I'm being an ass, okay....guess I'll just be an ass in your book..I'm okay with that.
Didn't say you were being an ass, but if your going to demand accountability from someone at least go to the source, instead of sarcastic "I guess they had better things to do". Make sure you get the entire story. That was my point.
Quit on...
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So here's an open question for any admin, any mod, or any member who wants to answer....
Is it okay for guys with serious days quit to just post when they feel like it or is the expectation that they post EDD, like those of us struggling to break the chains and haven't yet hit HOF?
I am not trying to stir up any "shit" or anything else. I believe this is a legit question. Do the "rules" of the site allow leniency for longer term quitters? I was led to believe that the foundation of this site is posting roll. If that's the case, would seem to me that it would apply to ALL active members, regardless of "seniority" in terms of # of quit days.
Would appreciate a straightforward answer here. Thanks.
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So here's an open question for any admin, any mod, or any member who wants to answer....
Is it okay for guys with serious days quit to just post when they feel like it or is the expectation that they post EDD, like those of us struggling to break the chains and haven't yet hit HOF?
I am not trying to stir up any "shit" or anything else. I believe this is a legit question. Do the "rules" of the site allow leniency for longer term quitters? I was led to believe that the foundation of this site is posting roll. If that's the case, would seem to me that it would apply to ALL active members, regardless of "seniority" in terms of # of quit days.
Would appreciate a straightforward answer here. Thanks.
Skoal monsters thread. Discussed ad nauseam there recently. Nothing wrong with discussing it here, just pointing you there for both sides of that discussion. Actually, that discussion has been had ever since this place opened. Read old groups and you'll bump into the same thing. For some reason, new quitters don't read the old groups anymore. They rarely know site history. Or even care to. No one knows why the old guys post above the line in quit groups, for example.
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So here's an open question for any admin, any mod, or any member who wants to answer....
Is it okay for guys with serious days quit to just post when they feel like it or is the expectation that they post EDD, like those of us struggling to break the chains and haven't yet hit HOF?
I am not trying to stir up any "shit" or anything else. I believe this is a legit question. Do the "rules" of the site allow leniency for longer term quitters? I was led to believe that the foundation of this site is posting roll. If that's the case, would seem to me that it would apply to ALL active members, regardless of "seniority" in terms of # of quit days.
Would appreciate a straightforward answer here. Thanks.
Just going to offer you the first thoughts that pop into my head.
At Day 177, I need to post daily. I have a group of fellow June members who I text daily. At this point in my quit, I need to post DAILY. I can't say where I'll be come tomorrow, next week, or next month. Offer help and support to those who need, and want it. Admins and mods provide a special role to this place. They do shit that you and I never see. They volunteer their time to keep this place running. This place, I call it my quit sanctuary, provides you and I with a place to quit and succeed. If a mod or admin skips a day, big deal in my book. I didn't post July 3rd - July 6th. Yet my name was on roll, EDD. I text my quit into my quit buddies while on vacation. There are many facets of this site. Don't take everything at face value. I love your passion and no nonsense approach, but there are bigger battles to be fought. Take your passion for this topic, and apply it to "adopting" and new quitter. Teach him/her the ropes of this place and how to quit.
With you brother, bigger fish to fry though...
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So here's an open question for any admin, any mod, or any member who wants to answer....
Is it okay for guys with serious days quit to just post when they feel like it or is the expectation that they post EDD, like those of us struggling to break the chains and haven't yet hit HOF?
I am not trying to stir up any "shit" or anything else. I believe this is a legit question. Do the "rules" of the site allow leniency for longer term quitters? I was led to believe that the foundation of this site is posting roll. If that's the case, would seem to me that it would apply to ALL active members, regardless of "seniority" in terms of # of quit days.
Would appreciate a straightforward answer here. Thanks.
Just going to offer you the first thoughts that pop into my head.
At Day 177, I need to post daily. I have a group of fellow June members who I text daily. At this point in my quit, I need to post DAILY. I can't say where I'll be come tomorrow, next week, or next month. Offer help and support to those who need, and want it. Admins and mods provide a special role to this place. They do shit that you and I never see. They volunteer their time to keep this place running. This place, I call it my quit sanctuary, provides you and I with a place to quit and succeed. If a mod or admin skips a day, big deal in my book. I didn't post July 3rd - July 6th. Yet my name was on roll, EDD. I text my quit into my quit buddies while on vacation. There are many facets of this site. Don't take everything at face value. I love your passion and no nonsense approach, but there are bigger battles to be fought. Take your passion for this topic, and apply it to "adopting" and new quitter. Teach him/her the ropes of this place and how to quit.
With you brother, bigger fish to fry though...
I also love your passion and dedication to being quit. Dedication and determination along with integrity and honor are what it takes to remain quit. While you are at it don't lose sight of the hundreds of others missing from roll whose quits are not as mature as the old timers. I'm not saying that I agree with anyone missing roll but I believe the newer your quit is that it is even more crucial not to miss roll. I'm in DEC 13. We are days away from a year. If someone is not on roll I call them on it. I have a section on the page for special butterflies who do not post roll and they are shamed. If they can't deal with it they move their asses to another site. Or worst case they go cave. Everyone makes their own choices in life. Keep up the good solid quit. I am quit with you.
-Ron
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So here's an open question for any admin, any mod, or any member who wants to answer....
Is it okay for guys with serious days quit to just post when they feel like it or is the expectation that they post EDD, like those of us struggling to break the chains and haven't yet hit HOF?
I am not trying to stir up any "shit" or anything else. I believe this is a legit question. Do the "rules" of the site allow leniency for longer term quitters? I was led to believe that the foundation of this site is posting roll. If that's the case, would seem to me that it would apply to ALL active members, regardless of "seniority" in terms of # of quit days.
Would appreciate a straightforward answer here. Thanks.
Just going to offer you the first thoughts that pop into my head.
At Day 177, I need to post daily. I have a group of fellow June members who I text daily. At this point in my quit, I need to post DAILY. I can't say where I'll be come tomorrow, next week, or next month. Offer help and support to those who need, and want it. Admins and mods provide a special role to this place. They do shit that you and I never see. They volunteer their time to keep this place running. This place, I call it my quit sanctuary, provides you and I with a place to quit and succeed. If a mod or admin skips a day, big deal in my book. I didn't post July 3rd - July 6th. Yet my name was on roll, EDD. I text my quit into my quit buddies while on vacation. There are many facets of this site. Don't take everything at face value. I love your passion and no nonsense approach, but there are bigger battles to be fought. Take your passion for this topic, and apply it to "adopting" and new quitter. Teach him/her the ropes of this place and how to quit.
With you brother, bigger fish to fry though...
I cannot answer for anyone else... but I can answer for me. 30yrAddict, the quitter. (as opposed to the mod)
33 years I used nicotine. I would guess about 25 of those were spent trying to get free of this nasty addiction. When I arrived here I was desperate to be quit, wanted to be quit... but had no idea how to go about it. Luckily the folks here at KTC knew all about it. Skoal Monster was one of those. Remshot was another, Scowick was one of those. Gmann was another, and Frazzled, J2B. and so on. countless others. Some of these others no longer post roll regularly, but I am still grateful for the life that they gave this place so that I can be here today posting this 1283 days quit. For me to reject their contributions because they no longer post roll everyday would speak very poorly of my character.
Did I NEED to post roll today? At this point in my quit I would say I probably didn't NEED to. Damn sure I would not have caved today if I didn't post roll. My quit is as strong as it has ever been. If I skipped a week would I cave?... again 100 percent sure that answer would be no. ditto for a month. But a year? 1000 days, 5000 days? For me the answer becomes a bit less certain... even if the chances were 2% that I would cave in that time, that is still to great. I fought way to long and hard to get here... 36.5 years to be exact. I danced with the devil long enough to have a healthy respect of how tenacious this addiction is. Posting roll is a way of reminding myself from whence I came... to realize that I am not infallible, to daily become humble in the face of my addiction.
The other big part of posting roll at this stage in the game is the brotherhood I have been blessed to be a part of here. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt if I was missing on roll call the object of my fellow brothers in May 2011 would not be to call me out in public, or hold me up to embarrassment and public humiliation... First and foremost on their minds would be to check in and make sure that everything is ok. I am sure I would get several texts,pm's,emails and phone calls out of genuine concern. I am sure a few of them would cross the country to be at my door if I needed. That kind of brotherhood can't be found on a spreadsheet.
Finally to answer your question: I can't tell you who needs to post every day here. The idealistic answer is everybody, and indeed I would like to see that as it would be my advice to everyone.. but to be fair I don't speak from the perspective of someone with 3000 days quit. I don't look through the world through the eyes of any other quitter here. I look at quit through my eyes. I can tell you that at day 1283 I am on roll call and that promise is non-negotiable. Bet against day 1283 and you will lose. I guarantee it. As for day 1284, if God blesses me with another day on this earth I plan to be here as well, and I would encourage you not to bet against that one either.
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So here's an open question for any admin, any mod, or any member who wants to answer....
Is it okay for guys with serious days quit to just post when they feel like it or is the expectation that they post EDD, like those of us struggling to break the chains and haven't yet hit HOF?
I am not trying to stir up any "shit" or anything else. I believe this is a legit question. Do the "rules" of the site allow leniency for longer term quitters? I was led to believe that the foundation of this site is posting roll. If that's the case, would seem to me that it would apply to ALL active members, regardless of "seniority" in terms of # of quit days.
Would appreciate a straightforward answer here. Thanks.
Just going to offer you the first thoughts that pop into my head.
At Day 177, I need to post daily. I have a group of fellow June members who I text daily. At this point in my quit, I need to post DAILY. I can't say where I'll be come tomorrow, next week, or next month. Offer help and support to those who need, and want it. Admins and mods provide a special role to this place. They do shit that you and I never see. They volunteer their time to keep this place running. This place, I call it my quit sanctuary, provides you and I with a place to quit and succeed. If a mod or admin skips a day, big deal in my book. I didn't post July 3rd - July 6th. Yet my name was on roll, EDD. I text my quit into my quit buddies while on vacation. There are many facets of this site. Don't take everything at face value. I love your passion and no nonsense approach, but there are bigger battles to be fought. Take your passion for this topic, and apply it to "adopting" and new quitter. Teach him/her the ropes of this place and how to quit.
With you brother, bigger fish to fry though...
I cannot answer for anyone else... but I can answer for me. 30yrAddict, the quitter. (as opposed to the mod)
33 years I used nicotine. I would guess about 25 of those were spent trying to get free of this nasty addiction. When I arrived here I was desperate to be quit, wanted to be quit... but had no idea how to go about it. Luckily the folks here at KTC knew all about it. Skoal Monster was one of those. Remshot was another, Scowick was one of those. Gmann was another, and Frazzled, J2B. and so on. countless others. Some of these others no longer post roll regularly, but I am still grateful for the life that they gave this place so that I can be here today posting this 1283 days quit. For me to reject their contributions because they no longer post roll everyday would speak very poorly of my character.
Did I NEED to post roll today? At this point in my quit I would say I probably didn't NEED to. Damn sure I would not have caved today if I didn't post roll. My quit is as strong as it has ever been. If I skipped a week would I cave?... again 100 percent sure that answer would be no. ditto for a month. But a year? 1000 days, 5000 days? For me the answer becomes a bit less certain... even if the chances were 2% that I would cave in that time, that is still to great. I fought way to long and hard to get here... 36.5 years to be exact. I danced with the devil long enough to have a healthy respect of how tenacious this addiction is. Posting roll is a way of reminding myself from whence I came... to realize that I am not infallible, to daily become humble in the face of my addiction.
The other big part of posting roll at this stage in the game is the brotherhood I have been blessed to be a part of here. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt if I was missing on roll call the object of my fellow brothers in May 2011 would not be to call me out in public, or hold me up to embarrassment and public humiliation... First and foremost on their minds would be to check in and make sure that everything is ok. I am sure I would get several texts,pm's,emails and phone calls out of genuine concern. I am sure a few of them would cross the country to be at my door if I needed. That kind of brotherhood can't be found on a spreadsheet.
Finally to answer your question: I can't tell you who needs to post every day here. The idealistic answer is everybody, and indeed I would like to see that as it would be my advice to everyone.. but to be fair I don't speak from the perspective of someone with 3000 days quit. I don't look through the world through the eyes of any other quitter here. I look at quit through my eyes. I can tell you that at day 1283 I am on roll call and that promise is non-negotiable. Bet against day 1283 and you will lose. I guarantee it. As for day 1284, if God blesses me with another day on this earth I plan to be here as well, and I would encourage you not to bet against that one either.
Awesome answer 30year. I think my approach of shaming those who miss roll might be extreme. It just gets so frustrating dealing with the same half ass quitters. Gonna modify my approach. Thank you again for your well thought out and honest answer.
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So here's an open question for any admin, any mod, or any member who wants to answer....
Is it okay for guys with serious days quit to just post when they feel like it or is the expectation that they post EDD, like those of us struggling to break the chains and haven't yet hit HOF?
I am not trying to stir up any "shit" or anything else. I believe this is a legit question. Do the "rules" of the site allow leniency for longer term quitters? I was led to believe that the foundation of this site is posting roll. If that's the case, would seem to me that it would apply to ALL active members, regardless of "seniority" in terms of # of quit days.
Would appreciate a straightforward answer here. Thanks.
Just going to offer you the first thoughts that pop into my head.
At Day 177, I need to post daily. I have a group of fellow June members who I text daily. At this point in my quit, I need to post DAILY. I can't say where I'll be come tomorrow, next week, or next month. Offer help and support to those who need, and want it. Admins and mods provide a special role to this place. They do shit that you and I never see. They volunteer their time to keep this place running. This place, I call it my quit sanctuary, provides you and I with a place to quit and succeed. If a mod or admin skips a day, big deal in my book. I didn't post July 3rd - July 6th. Yet my name was on roll, EDD. I text my quit into my quit buddies while on vacation. There are many facets of this site. Don't take everything at face value. I love your passion and no nonsense approach, but there are bigger battles to be fought. Take your passion for this topic, and apply it to "adopting" and new quitter. Teach him/her the ropes of this place and how to quit.
With you brother, bigger fish to fry though...
I cannot answer for anyone else... but I can answer for me. 30yrAddict, the quitter. (as opposed to the mod)
33 years I used nicotine. I would guess about 25 of those were spent trying to get free of this nasty addiction. When I arrived here I was desperate to be quit, wanted to be quit... but had no idea how to go about it. Luckily the folks here at KTC knew all about it. Skoal Monster was one of those. Remshot was another, Scowick was one of those. Gmann was another, and Frazzled, J2B. and so on. countless others. Some of these others no longer post roll regularly, but I am still grateful for the life that they gave this place so that I can be here today posting this 1283 days quit. For me to reject their contributions because they no longer post roll everyday would speak very poorly of my character.
Did I NEED to post roll today? At this point in my quit I would say I probably didn't NEED to. Damn sure I would not have caved today if I didn't post roll. My quit is as strong as it has ever been. If I skipped a week would I cave?... again 100 percent sure that answer would be no. ditto for a month. But a year? 1000 days, 5000 days? For me the answer becomes a bit less certain... even if the chances were 2% that I would cave in that time, that is still to great. I fought way to long and hard to get here... 36.5 years to be exact. I danced with the devil long enough to have a healthy respect of how tenacious this addiction is. Posting roll is a way of reminding myself from whence I came... to realize that I am not infallible, to daily become humble in the face of my addiction.
The other big part of posting roll at this stage in the game is the brotherhood I have been blessed to be a part of here. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt if I was missing on roll call the object of my fellow brothers in May 2011 would not be to call me out in public, or hold me up to embarrassment and public humiliation... First and foremost on their minds would be to check in and make sure that everything is ok. I am sure I would get several texts,pm's,emails and phone calls out of genuine concern. I am sure a few of them would cross the country to be at my door if I needed. That kind of brotherhood can't be found on a spreadsheet.
Finally to answer your question: I can't tell you who needs to post every day here. The idealistic answer is everybody, and indeed I would like to see that as it would be my advice to everyone.. but to be fair I don't speak from the perspective of someone with 3000 days quit. I don't look through the world through the eyes of any other quitter here. I look at quit through my eyes. I can tell you that at day 1283 I am on roll call and that promise is non-negotiable. Bet against day 1283 and you will lose. I guarantee it. As for day 1284, if God blesses me with another day on this earth I plan to be here as well, and I would encourage you not to bet against that one either.
Awesome answer 30year. I think my approach of shaming those who miss roll might be extreme. It just gets so frustrating dealing with the same half ass quitters. Gonna modify my approach. Thank you again for your well thought out and honest answer.
I'll be your huckleberry as well since I seem to be a favorite of yours CM :)
For the most part, I echo 30's words, but also want to be a good example for everyone on site. For a long, long time, I HAD to post roll. My conscience, my sanity, and my quit depended on it. For me, as I approach 4 yrs next month, I've seen a total evolution of my quit. The foundation is still roll and it takes at a very minimum of 100 days to drill that into a new quitters head. Look how many people leave at 101, they are magically cured. They all of a sudden "got it". I didn't. I posted daily for a very long time and still believe that it is the way to quit and stay quit. My roll here is to help anyone who needs it, my phone is full of quitters, and also full of cavers. I haven't deleted a single name that I've entered and there are many that aren't here any more. I reach out to them occasionally, with the usual response of silence. But sometimes I get an answer. Whether or not that person is quit or using, I'm keeping the fire alive, hopefully planting the accountability seed back in their head. And reassuring me that my quit is all that it can be.
I'm sure many of you guys have felt it early on. wake up, post roll, go on about your day. Somewhere along the way a crave hits, a trigger releases. My first thought even before I dealt with it, was Thank God I posted roll today, because succumbing to this crave/trigger is not going to happen. Now how do I get over it. Every time. I still feel the same. If I'm not on roll, I'll make every conscious effort to do so. As 30 states, my word is golden behind the name and day. Nothing is going to make me a liar to you Cav, the Sultans, 2014, or any quitter here.
As I put my mod hat on (which of course is rainbow colored to match my knee-highs) I'm blessed to have the opportunity to pay it back for all the times vets reached out and picked me up when I was foggy or down. When someone put a note in my intro saying whats up tarp, how ya been. There's many many ways to pay it back, even to the guys who are pre-HOF. Look around you, your brothers every day struggle, communication and activism are the keys. The more you're in touch, the brighter the torch shines for you, your group and our brotherhood.
I agree with 30, posting roll should be done daily for every member. I fully believe that somewhere down your path, you reach a point where that daily post reaches beyond 24 hours or one day. However that does not apply to pre-HOF, and I fully believe that it should last well beyond HOF. It will fall to you and how you need to manage your quit. We're all different, and we all manage our lives differently. I know my quit is as strong as Gibraltar and I'm not stupid enough to believe that I'm done with roll call or KTC. My work isn't done yet. I still have about 10 guys that post regularly in Dec 2010. Those guys are my brothers and my first line of defense. The next line is the full brotherhood of KTC. My digits are available to anyone and its open 24/7, except during the 15 minutes quarterly I get with mrs tarp. Other than that I'm all ears.
In summary, take care of you first, make sure you start your day with the power you need to stay clean. Secondly, there are many who need support here daily. Find them and help them. Its usually not that hard. Lastly, I got your back whether or not my name/number is in your support group or not. You need me, you know where I'm at.
thanks
tarp
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So here's an open question for any admin, any mod, or any member who wants to answer....
Is it okay for guys with serious days quit to just post when they feel like it or is the expectation that they post EDD, like those of us struggling to break the chains and haven't yet hit HOF?
I am not trying to stir up any "shit" or anything else. I believe this is a legit question. Do the "rules" of the site allow leniency for longer term quitters? I was led to believe that the foundation of this site is posting roll. If that's the case, would seem to me that it would apply to ALL active members, regardless of "seniority" in terms of # of quit days.
Would appreciate a straightforward answer here. Thanks.
Just going to offer you the first thoughts that pop into my head.
At Day 177, I need to post daily. I have a group of fellow June members who I text daily. At this point in my quit, I need to post DAILY. I can't say where I'll be come tomorrow, next week, or next month. Offer help and support to those who need, and want it. Admins and mods provide a special role to this place. They do shit that you and I never see. They volunteer their time to keep this place running. This place, I call it my quit sanctuary, provides you and I with a place to quit and succeed. If a mod or admin skips a day, big deal in my book. I didn't post July 3rd - July 6th. Yet my name was on roll, EDD. I text my quit into my quit buddies while on vacation. There are many facets of this site. Don't take everything at face value. I love your passion and no nonsense approach, but there are bigger battles to be fought. Take your passion for this topic, and apply it to "adopting" and new quitter. Teach him/her the ropes of this place and how to quit.
With you brother, bigger fish to fry though...
I cannot answer for anyone else... but I can answer for me. 30yrAddict, the quitter. (as opposed to the mod)
33 years I used nicotine. I would guess about 25 of those were spent trying to get free of this nasty addiction. When I arrived here I was desperate to be quit, wanted to be quit... but had no idea how to go about it. Luckily the folks here at KTC knew all about it. Skoal Monster was one of those. Remshot was another, Scowick was one of those. Gmann was another, and Frazzled, J2B. and so on. countless others. Some of these others no longer post roll regularly, but I am still grateful for the life that they gave this place so that I can be here today posting this 1283 days quit. For me to reject their contributions because they no longer post roll everyday would speak very poorly of my character.
Did I NEED to post roll today? At this point in my quit I would say I probably didn't NEED to. Damn sure I would not have caved today if I didn't post roll. My quit is as strong as it has ever been. If I skipped a week would I cave?... again 100 percent sure that answer would be no. ditto for a month. But a year? 1000 days, 5000 days? For me the answer becomes a bit less certain... even if the chances were 2% that I would cave in that time, that is still to great. I fought way to long and hard to get here... 36.5 years to be exact. I danced with the devil long enough to have a healthy respect of how tenacious this addiction is. Posting roll is a way of reminding myself from whence I came... to realize that I am not infallible, to daily become humble in the face of my addiction.
The other big part of posting roll at this stage in the game is the brotherhood I have been blessed to be a part of here. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt if I was missing on roll call the object of my fellow brothers in May 2011 would not be to call me out in public, or hold me up to embarrassment and public humiliation... First and foremost on their minds would be to check in and make sure that everything is ok. I am sure I would get several texts,pm's,emails and phone calls out of genuine concern. I am sure a few of them would cross the country to be at my door if I needed. That kind of brotherhood can't be found on a spreadsheet.
Finally to answer your question: I can't tell you who needs to post every day here. The idealistic answer is everybody, and indeed I would like to see that as it would be my advice to everyone.. but to be fair I don't speak from the perspective of someone with 3000 days quit. I don't look through the world through the eyes of any other quitter here. I look at quit through my eyes. I can tell you that at day 1283 I am on roll call and that promise is non-negotiable. Bet against day 1283 and you will lose. I guarantee it. As for day 1284, if God blesses me with another day on this earth I plan to be here as well, and I would encourage you not to bet against that one either.
Awesome answer 30year. I think my approach of shaming those who miss roll might be extreme. It just gets so frustrating dealing with the same half ass quitters. Gonna modify my approach. Thank you again for your well thought out and honest answer.
I'll be your huckleberry as well since I seem to be a favorite of yours CM :)
For the most part, I echo 30's words, but also want to be a good example for everyone on site. For a long, long time, I HAD to post roll. My conscience, my sanity, and my quit depended on it. For me, as I approach 4 yrs next month, I've seen a total evolution of my quit. The foundation is still roll and it takes at a very minimum of 100 days to drill that into a new quitters head. Look how many people leave at 101, they are magically cured. They all of a sudden "got it". I didn't. I posted daily for a very long time and still believe that it is the way to quit and stay quit. My roll here is to help anyone who needs it, my phone is full of quitters, and also full of cavers. I haven't deleted a single name that I've entered and there are many that aren't here any more. I reach out to them occasionally, with the usual response of silence. But sometimes I get an answer. Whether or not that person is quit or using, I'm keeping the fire alive, hopefully planting the accountability seed back in their head. And reassuring me that my quit is all that it can be.
I'm sure many of you guys have felt it early on. wake up, post roll, go on about your day. Somewhere along the way a crave hits, a trigger releases. My first thought even before I dealt with it, was Thank God I posted roll today, because succumbing to this crave/trigger is not going to happen. Now how do I get over it. Every time. I still feel the same. If I'm not on roll, I'll make every conscious effort to do so. As 30 states, my word is golden behind the name and day. Nothing is going to make me a liar to you Cav, the Sultans, 2014, or any quitter here.
As I put my mod hat on (which of course is rainbow colored to match my knee-highs) I'm blessed to have the opportunity to pay it back for all the times vets reached out and picked me up when I was foggy or down. When someone put a note in my intro saying whats up tarp, how ya been. There's many many ways to pay it back, even to the guys who are pre-HOF. Look around you, your brothers every day struggle, communication and activism are the keys. The more you're in touch, the brighter the torch shines for you, your group and our brotherhood.
I agree with 30, posting roll should be done daily for every member. I fully believe that somewhere down your path, you reach a point where that daily post reaches beyond 24 hours or one day. However that does not apply to pre-HOF, and I fully believe that it should last well beyond HOF. It will fall to you and how you need to manage your quit. We're all different, and we all manage our lives differently. I know my quit is as strong as Gibraltar and I'm not stupid enough to believe that I'm done with roll call or KTC. My work isn't done yet. I still have about 10 guys that post regularly in Dec 2010. Those guys are my brothers and my first line of defense. The next line is the full brotherhood of KTC. My digits are available to anyone and its open 24/7, except during the 15 minutes quarterly I get with mrs tarp. Other than that I'm all ears.
In summary, take care of you first, make sure you start your day with the power you need to stay clean. Secondly, there are many who need support here daily. Find them and help them. Its usually not that hard. Lastly, I got your back whether or not my name/number is in your support group or not. You need me, you know where I'm at.
thanks
tarp
Nicely done responses. Question gmann brought up is why some older long term posters continue to post above the line. Why so?
-
So here's an open question for any admin, any mod, or any member who wants to answer....
Is it okay for guys with serious days quit to just post when they feel like it or is the expectation that they post EDD, like those of us struggling to break the chains and haven't yet hit HOF?
I am not trying to stir up any "shit" or anything else. I believe this is a legit question. Do the "rules" of the site allow leniency for longer term quitters? I was led to believe that the foundation of this site is posting roll. If that's the case, would seem to me that it would apply to ALL active members, regardless of "seniority" in terms of # of quit days.
Would appreciate a straightforward answer here. Thanks.
Just going to offer you the first thoughts that pop into my head.
At Day 177, I need to post daily. I have a group of fellow June members who I text daily. At this point in my quit, I need to post DAILY. I can't say where I'll be come tomorrow, next week, or next month. Offer help and support to those who need, and want it. Admins and mods provide a special role to this place. They do shit that you and I never see. They volunteer their time to keep this place running. This place, I call it my quit sanctuary, provides you and I with a place to quit and succeed. If a mod or admin skips a day, big deal in my book. I didn't post July 3rd - July 6th. Yet my name was on roll, EDD. I text my quit into my quit buddies while on vacation. There are many facets of this site. Don't take everything at face value. I love your passion and no nonsense approach, but there are bigger battles to be fought. Take your passion for this topic, and apply it to "adopting" and new quitter. Teach him/her the ropes of this place and how to quit.
With you brother, bigger fish to fry though...
I cannot answer for anyone else... but I can answer for me. 30yrAddict, the quitter. (as opposed to the mod)
33 years I used nicotine. I would guess about 25 of those were spent trying to get free of this nasty addiction. When I arrived here I was desperate to be quit, wanted to be quit... but had no idea how to go about it. Luckily the folks here at KTC knew all about it. Skoal Monster was one of those. Remshot was another, Scowick was one of those. Gmann was another, and Frazzled, J2B. and so on. countless others. Some of these others no longer post roll regularly, but I am still grateful for the life that they gave this place so that I can be here today posting this 1283 days quit. For me to reject their contributions because they no longer post roll everyday would speak very poorly of my character.
Did I NEED to post roll today? At this point in my quit I would say I probably didn't NEED to. Damn sure I would not have caved today if I didn't post roll. My quit is as strong as it has ever been. If I skipped a week would I cave?... again 100 percent sure that answer would be no. ditto for a month. But a year? 1000 days, 5000 days? For me the answer becomes a bit less certain... even if the chances were 2% that I would cave in that time, that is still to great. I fought way to long and hard to get here... 36.5 years to be exact. I danced with the devil long enough to have a healthy respect of how tenacious this addiction is. Posting roll is a way of reminding myself from whence I came... to realize that I am not infallible, to daily become humble in the face of my addiction.
The other big part of posting roll at this stage in the game is the brotherhood I have been blessed to be a part of here. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt if I was missing on roll call the object of my fellow brothers in May 2011 would not be to call me out in public, or hold me up to embarrassment and public humiliation... First and foremost on their minds would be to check in and make sure that everything is ok. I am sure I would get several texts,pm's,emails and phone calls out of genuine concern. I am sure a few of them would cross the country to be at my door if I needed. That kind of brotherhood can't be found on a spreadsheet.
Finally to answer your question: I can't tell you who needs to post every day here. The idealistic answer is everybody, and indeed I would like to see that as it would be my advice to everyone.. but to be fair I don't speak from the perspective of someone with 3000 days quit. I don't look through the world through the eyes of any other quitter here. I look at quit through my eyes. I can tell you that at day 1283 I am on roll call and that promise is non-negotiable. Bet against day 1283 and you will lose. I guarantee it. As for day 1284, if God blesses me with another day on this earth I plan to be here as well, and I would encourage you not to bet against that one either.
Awesome answer 30year. I think my approach of shaming those who miss roll might be extreme. It just gets so frustrating dealing with the same half ass quitters. Gonna modify my approach. Thank you again for your well thought out and honest answer.
I'll be your huckleberry as well since I seem to be a favorite of yours CM :)
For the most part, I echo 30's words, but also want to be a good example for everyone on site. For a long, long time, I HAD to post roll. My conscience, my sanity, and my quit depended on it. For me, as I approach 4 yrs next month, I've seen a total evolution of my quit. The foundation is still roll and it takes at a very minimum of 100 days to drill that into a new quitters head. Look how many people leave at 101, they are magically cured. They all of a sudden "got it". I didn't. I posted daily for a very long time and still believe that it is the way to quit and stay quit. My roll here is to help anyone who needs it, my phone is full of quitters, and also full of cavers. I haven't deleted a single name that I've entered and there are many that aren't here any more. I reach out to them occasionally, with the usual response of silence. But sometimes I get an answer. Whether or not that person is quit or using, I'm keeping the fire alive, hopefully planting the accountability seed back in their head. And reassuring me that my quit is all that it can be.
I'm sure many of you guys have felt it early on. wake up, post roll, go on about your day. Somewhere along the way a crave hits, a trigger releases. My first thought even before I dealt with it, was Thank God I posted roll today, because succumbing to this crave/trigger is not going to happen. Now how do I get over it. Every time. I still feel the same. If I'm not on roll, I'll make every conscious effort to do so. As 30 states, my word is golden behind the name and day. Nothing is going to make me a liar to you Cav, the Sultans, 2014, or any quitter here.
As I put my mod hat on (which of course is rainbow colored to match my knee-highs) I'm blessed to have the opportunity to pay it back for all the times vets reached out and picked me up when I was foggy or down. When someone put a note in my intro saying whats up tarp, how ya been. There's many many ways to pay it back, even to the guys who are pre-HOF. Look around you, your brothers every day struggle, communication and activism are the keys. The more you're in touch, the brighter the torch shines for you, your group and our brotherhood.
I agree with 30, posting roll should be done daily for every member. I fully believe that somewhere down your path, you reach a point where that daily post reaches beyond 24 hours or one day. However that does not apply to pre-HOF, and I fully believe that it should last well beyond HOF. It will fall to you and how you need to manage your quit. We're all different, and we all manage our lives differently. I know my quit is as strong as Gibraltar and I'm not stupid enough to believe that I'm done with roll call or KTC. My work isn't done yet. I still have about 10 guys that post regularly in Dec 2010. Those guys are my brothers and my first line of defense. The next line is the full brotherhood of KTC. My digits are available to anyone and its open 24/7, except during the 15 minutes quarterly I get with mrs tarp. Other than that I'm all ears.
In summary, take care of you first, make sure you start your day with the power you need to stay clean. Secondly, there are many who need support here daily. Find them and help them. Its usually not that hard. Lastly, I got your back whether or not my name/number is in your support group or not. You need me, you know where I'm at.
thanks
tarp
Nicely done responses. Question gmann brought up is why some older long term posters continue to post above the line. Why so?
In my experience, seems like some vets get emotional with future groups with the same month. For example, me, I quit in December 2010, and I sometimes have an affinity for other december groups. But some guys find a calling in helping out in these months and posting above the line with the newbs.
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So here's an open question for any admin, any mod, or any member who wants to answer....
Is it okay for guys with serious days quit to just post when they feel like it or is the expectation that they post EDD, like those of us struggling to break the chains and haven't yet hit HOF?
I am not trying to stir up any "shit" or anything else. I believe this is a legit question. Do the "rules" of the site allow leniency for longer term quitters? I was led to believe that the foundation of this site is posting roll. If that's the case, would seem to me that it would apply to ALL active members, regardless of "seniority" in terms of # of quit days.
Would appreciate a straightforward answer here. Thanks.
Just going to offer you the first thoughts that pop into my head.
At Day 177, I need to post daily. I have a group of fellow June members who I text daily. At this point in my quit, I need to post DAILY. I can't say where I'll be come tomorrow, next week, or next month. Offer help and support to those who need, and want it. Admins and mods provide a special role to this place. They do shit that you and I never see. They volunteer their time to keep this place running. This place, I call it my quit sanctuary, provides you and I with a place to quit and succeed. If a mod or admin skips a day, big deal in my book. I didn't post July 3rd - July 6th. Yet my name was on roll, EDD. I text my quit into my quit buddies while on vacation. There are many facets of this site. Don't take everything at face value. I love your passion and no nonsense approach, but there are bigger battles to be fought. Take your passion for this topic, and apply it to "adopting" and new quitter. Teach him/her the ropes of this place and how to quit.
With you brother, bigger fish to fry though...
I cannot answer for anyone else... but I can answer for me. 30yrAddict, the quitter. (as opposed to the mod)
33 years I used nicotine. I would guess about 25 of those were spent trying to get free of this nasty addiction. When I arrived here I was desperate to be quit, wanted to be quit... but had no idea how to go about it. Luckily the folks here at KTC knew all about it. Skoal Monster was one of those. Remshot was another, Scowick was one of those. Gmann was another, and Frazzled, J2B. and so on. countless others. Some of these others no longer post roll regularly, but I am still grateful for the life that they gave this place so that I can be here today posting this 1283 days quit. For me to reject their contributions because they no longer post roll everyday would speak very poorly of my character.
Did I NEED to post roll today? At this point in my quit I would say I probably didn't NEED to. Damn sure I would not have caved today if I didn't post roll. My quit is as strong as it has ever been. If I skipped a week would I cave?... again 100 percent sure that answer would be no. ditto for a month. But a year? 1000 days, 5000 days? For me the answer becomes a bit less certain... even if the chances were 2% that I would cave in that time, that is still to great. I fought way to long and hard to get here... 36.5 years to be exact. I danced with the devil long enough to have a healthy respect of how tenacious this addiction is. Posting roll is a way of reminding myself from whence I came... to realize that I am not infallible, to daily become humble in the face of my addiction.
The other big part of posting roll at this stage in the game is the brotherhood I have been blessed to be a part of here. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt if I was missing on roll call the object of my fellow brothers in May 2011 would not be to call me out in public, or hold me up to embarrassment and public humiliation... First and foremost on their minds would be to check in and make sure that everything is ok. I am sure I would get several texts,pm's,emails and phone calls out of genuine concern. I am sure a few of them would cross the country to be at my door if I needed. That kind of brotherhood can't be found on a spreadsheet.
Finally to answer your question: I can't tell you who needs to post every day here. The idealistic answer is everybody, and indeed I would like to see that as it would be my advice to everyone.. but to be fair I don't speak from the perspective of someone with 3000 days quit. I don't look through the world through the eyes of any other quitter here. I look at quit through my eyes. I can tell you that at day 1283 I am on roll call and that promise is non-negotiable. Bet against day 1283 and you will lose. I guarantee it. As for day 1284, if God blesses me with another day on this earth I plan to be here as well, and I would encourage you not to bet against that one either.
Awesome answer 30year. I think my approach of shaming those who miss roll might be extreme. It just gets so frustrating dealing with the same half ass quitters. Gonna modify my approach. Thank you again for your well thought out and honest answer.
I'll be your huckleberry as well since I seem to be a favorite of yours CM :)
For the most part, I echo 30's words, but also want to be a good example for everyone on site. For a long, long time, I HAD to post roll. My conscience, my sanity, and my quit depended on it. For me, as I approach 4 yrs next month, I've seen a total evolution of my quit. The foundation is still roll and it takes at a very minimum of 100 days to drill that into a new quitters head. Look how many people leave at 101, they are magically cured. They all of a sudden "got it". I didn't. I posted daily for a very long time and still believe that it is the way to quit and stay quit. My roll here is to help anyone who needs it, my phone is full of quitters, and also full of cavers. I haven't deleted a single name that I've entered and there are many that aren't here any more. I reach out to them occasionally, with the usual response of silence. But sometimes I get an answer. Whether or not that person is quit or using, I'm keeping the fire alive, hopefully planting the accountability seed back in their head. And reassuring me that my quit is all that it can be.
I'm sure many of you guys have felt it early on. wake up, post roll, go on about your day. Somewhere along the way a crave hits, a trigger releases. My first thought even before I dealt with it, was Thank God I posted roll today, because succumbing to this crave/trigger is not going to happen. Now how do I get over it. Every time. I still feel the same. If I'm not on roll, I'll make every conscious effort to do so. As 30 states, my word is golden behind the name and day. Nothing is going to make me a liar to you Cav, the Sultans, 2014, or any quitter here.
As I put my mod hat on (which of course is rainbow colored to match my knee-highs) I'm blessed to have the opportunity to pay it back for all the times vets reached out and picked me up when I was foggy or down. When someone put a note in my intro saying whats up tarp, how ya been. There's many many ways to pay it back, even to the guys who are pre-HOF. Look around you, your brothers every day struggle, communication and activism are the keys. The more you're in touch, the brighter the torch shines for you, your group and our brotherhood.
I agree with 30, posting roll should be done daily for every member. I fully believe that somewhere down your path, you reach a point where that daily post reaches beyond 24 hours or one day. However that does not apply to pre-HOF, and I fully believe that it should last well beyond HOF. It will fall to you and how you need to manage your quit. We're all different, and we all manage our lives differently. I know my quit is as strong as Gibraltar and I'm not stupid enough to believe that I'm done with roll call or KTC. My work isn't done yet. I still have about 10 guys that post regularly in Dec 2010. Those guys are my brothers and my first line of defense. The next line is the full brotherhood of KTC. My digits are available to anyone and its open 24/7, except during the 15 minutes quarterly I get with mrs tarp. Other than that I'm all ears.
In summary, take care of you first, make sure you start your day with the power you need to stay clean. Secondly, there are many who need support here daily. Find them and help them. Its usually not that hard. Lastly, I got your back whether or not my name/number is in your support group or not. You need me, you know where I'm at.
thanks
tarp
Nicely done responses. Question gmann brought up is why some older long term posters continue to post above the line. Why so?
In my experience, seems like some vets get emotional with future groups with the same month. For example, me, I quit in December 2010, and I sometimes have an affinity for other december groups. But some guys find a calling in helping out in these months and posting above the line with the newbs.
Why do some vet quitters like to post above the line? If you have done your homework and read the old quit groups front to back, you would know the answer to the question. Site history is not a big thing with many of the new groups.
If I told you the answer, that would be the easy way out. Go find it....I guarantee will will find some golden nuggets along the way.
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So here's an open question for any admin, any mod, or any member who wants to answer....
Is it okay for guys with serious days quit to just post when they feel like it or is the expectation that they post EDD, like those of us struggling to break the chains and haven't yet hit HOF?
I am not trying to stir up any "shit" or anything else. I believe this is a legit question. Do the "rules" of the site allow leniency for longer term quitters? I was led to believe that the foundation of this site is posting roll. If that's the case, would seem to me that it would apply to ALL active members, regardless of "seniority" in terms of # of quit days.
Would appreciate a straightforward answer here. Thanks.
Just going to offer you the first thoughts that pop into my head.
At Day 177, I need to post daily. I have a group of fellow June members who I text daily. At this point in my quit, I need to post DAILY. I can't say where I'll be come tomorrow, next week, or next month. Offer help and support to those who need, and want it. Admins and mods provide a special role to this place. They do shit that you and I never see. They volunteer their time to keep this place running. This place, I call it my quit sanctuary, provides you and I with a place to quit and succeed. If a mod or admin skips a day, big deal in my book. I didn't post July 3rd - July 6th. Yet my name was on roll, EDD. I text my quit into my quit buddies while on vacation. There are many facets of this site. Don't take everything at face value. I love your passion and no nonsense approach, but there are bigger battles to be fought. Take your passion for this topic, and apply it to "adopting" and new quitter. Teach him/her the ropes of this place and how to quit.
With you brother, bigger fish to fry though...
I cannot answer for anyone else... but I can answer for me. 30yrAddict, the quitter. (as opposed to the mod)
33 years I used nicotine. I would guess about 25 of those were spent trying to get free of this nasty addiction. When I arrived here I was desperate to be quit, wanted to be quit... but had no idea how to go about it. Luckily the folks here at KTC knew all about it. Skoal Monster was one of those. Remshot was another, Scowick was one of those. Gmann was another, and Frazzled, J2B. and so on. countless others. Some of these others no longer post roll regularly, but I am still grateful for the life that they gave this place so that I can be here today posting this 1283 days quit. For me to reject their contributions because they no longer post roll everyday would speak very poorly of my character.
Did I NEED to post roll today? At this point in my quit I would say I probably didn't NEED to. Damn sure I would not have caved today if I didn't post roll. My quit is as strong as it has ever been. If I skipped a week would I cave?... again 100 percent sure that answer would be no. ditto for a month. But a year? 1000 days, 5000 days? For me the answer becomes a bit less certain... even if the chances were 2% that I would cave in that time, that is still to great. I fought way to long and hard to get here... 36.5 years to be exact. I danced with the devil long enough to have a healthy respect of how tenacious this addiction is. Posting roll is a way of reminding myself from whence I came... to realize that I am not infallible, to daily become humble in the face of my addiction.
The other big part of posting roll at this stage in the game is the brotherhood I have been blessed to be a part of here. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt if I was missing on roll call the object of my fellow brothers in May 2011 would not be to call me out in public, or hold me up to embarrassment and public humiliation... First and foremost on their minds would be to check in and make sure that everything is ok. I am sure I would get several texts,pm's,emails and phone calls out of genuine concern. I am sure a few of them would cross the country to be at my door if I needed. That kind of brotherhood can't be found on a spreadsheet.
Finally to answer your question: I can't tell you who needs to post every day here. The idealistic answer is everybody, and indeed I would like to see that as it would be my advice to everyone.. but to be fair I don't speak from the perspective of someone with 3000 days quit. I don't look through the world through the eyes of any other quitter here. I look at quit through my eyes. I can tell you that at day 1283 I am on roll call and that promise is non-negotiable. Bet against day 1283 and you will lose. I guarantee it. As for day 1284, if God blesses me with another day on this earth I plan to be here as well, and I would encourage you not to bet against that one either.
Awesome answer 30year. I think my approach of shaming those who miss roll might be extreme. It just gets so frustrating dealing with the same half ass quitters. Gonna modify my approach. Thank you again for your well thought out and honest answer.
I'll be your huckleberry as well since I seem to be a favorite of yours CM :)
For the most part, I echo 30's words, but also want to be a good example for everyone on site. For a long, long time, I HAD to post roll. My conscience, my sanity, and my quit depended on it. For me, as I approach 4 yrs next month, I've seen a total evolution of my quit. The foundation is still roll and it takes at a very minimum of 100 days to drill that into a new quitters head. Look how many people leave at 101, they are magically cured. They all of a sudden "got it". I didn't. I posted daily for a very long time and still believe that it is the way to quit and stay quit. My roll here is to help anyone who needs it, my phone is full of quitters, and also full of cavers. I haven't deleted a single name that I've entered and there are many that aren't here any more. I reach out to them occasionally, with the usual response of silence. But sometimes I get an answer. Whether or not that person is quit or using, I'm keeping the fire alive, hopefully planting the accountability seed back in their head. And reassuring me that my quit is all that it can be.
I'm sure many of you guys have felt it early on. wake up, post roll, go on about your day. Somewhere along the way a crave hits, a trigger releases. My first thought even before I dealt with it, was Thank God I posted roll today, because succumbing to this crave/trigger is not going to happen. Now how do I get over it. Every time. I still feel the same. If I'm not on roll, I'll make every conscious effort to do so. As 30 states, my word is golden behind the name and day. Nothing is going to make me a liar to you Cav, the Sultans, 2014, or any quitter here.
As I put my mod hat on (which of course is rainbow colored to match my knee-highs) I'm blessed to have the opportunity to pay it back for all the times vets reached out and picked me up when I was foggy or down. When someone put a note in my intro saying whats up tarp, how ya been. There's many many ways to pay it back, even to the guys who are pre-HOF. Look around you, your brothers every day struggle, communication and activism are the keys. The more you're in touch, the brighter the torch shines for you, your group and our brotherhood.
I agree with 30, posting roll should be done daily for every member. I fully believe that somewhere down your path, you reach a point where that daily post reaches beyond 24 hours or one day. However that does not apply to pre-HOF, and I fully believe that it should last well beyond HOF. It will fall to you and how you need to manage your quit. We're all different, and we all manage our lives differently. I know my quit is as strong as Gibraltar and I'm not stupid enough to believe that I'm done with roll call or KTC. My work isn't done yet. I still have about 10 guys that post regularly in Dec 2010. Those guys are my brothers and my first line of defense. The next line is the full brotherhood of KTC. My digits are available to anyone and its open 24/7, except during the 15 minutes quarterly I get with mrs tarp. Other than that I'm all ears.
In summary, take care of you first, make sure you start your day with the power you need to stay clean. Secondly, there are many who need support here daily. Find them and help them. Its usually not that hard. Lastly, I got your back whether or not my name/number is in your support group or not. You need me, you know where I'm at.
thanks
tarp
Nicely done responses. Question gmann brought up is why some older long term posters continue to post above the line. Why so?
If you look at site history, the line was not always there. Great many discussions have been had about segregated roll.
Although I generally do not post above the line, I am ambivalent about the segregation. At day 1 or day 1000 my name on that roll means that I promise YOU, no matter how many days quit that I am not going to use nicotine. I acknowledge that like the person who just walked in and posted a day 1 that I am an addict. To me above the line means that I am side by side... while below that line seems to me like a "cheering section".
So why do I post below the line? It's really more pragmatic than anything- With the size of the recent quit groups, it makes it a little easier for the people in the quit group to keep track of the others.
One very nice solution in my opinion is to post roll in order of days quit... If you look at June 2011 they elected to go without a spreadsheet. The chronological approach made it easy to keep track of people, and if they chose to they could have eliminated the "line" before they hit HOF, it also spread the responsibility of keeping track to all of the quitters in the group, not just the folks that maintained the spreadsheet... to take it a step further, take a look at May '06. That would be another approach that would work(although I would recommend doing it in ascending chronology pre hof, at least). That format makes it VERY easy to keep track of when someone was missing. Bottom line, as your quit group forms, the format of rollcall/accountability is yours to do with as you please. You don't need a line, you don't need a spreadsheet, but you do need to find a way to keep track of each other.
My .02
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So here's an open question for any admin, any mod, or any member who wants to answer....
Is it okay for guys with serious days quit to just post when they feel like it or is the expectation that they post EDD, like those of us struggling to break the chains and haven't yet hit HOF?
I am not trying to stir up any "shit" or anything else. I believe this is a legit question. Do the "rules" of the site allow leniency for longer term quitters? I was led to believe that the foundation of this site is posting roll. If that's the case, would seem to me that it would apply to ALL active members, regardless of "seniority" in terms of # of quit days.
Would appreciate a straightforward answer here. Thanks.
Just going to offer you the first thoughts that pop into my head.
At Day 177, I need to post daily. I have a group of fellow June members who I text daily. At this point in my quit, I need to post DAILY. I can't say where I'll be come tomorrow, next week, or next month. Offer help and support to those who need, and want it. Admins and mods provide a special role to this place. They do shit that you and I never see. They volunteer their time to keep this place running. This place, I call it my quit sanctuary, provides you and I with a place to quit and succeed. If a mod or admin skips a day, big deal in my book. I didn't post July 3rd - July 6th. Yet my name was on roll, EDD. I text my quit into my quit buddies while on vacation. There are many facets of this site. Don't take everything at face value. I love your passion and no nonsense approach, but there are bigger battles to be fought. Take your passion for this topic, and apply it to "adopting" and new quitter. Teach him/her the ropes of this place and how to quit.
With you brother, bigger fish to fry though...
I cannot answer for anyone else... but I can answer for me. 30yrAddict, the quitter. (as opposed to the mod)
33 years I used nicotine. I would guess about 25 of those were spent trying to get free of this nasty addiction. When I arrived here I was desperate to be quit, wanted to be quit... but had no idea how to go about it. Luckily the folks here at KTC knew all about it. Skoal Monster was one of those. Remshot was another, Scowick was one of those. Gmann was another, and Frazzled, J2B. and so on. countless others. Some of these others no longer post roll regularly, but I am still grateful for the life that they gave this place so that I can be here today posting this 1283 days quit. For me to reject their contributions because they no longer post roll everyday would speak very poorly of my character.
Did I NEED to post roll today? At this point in my quit I would say I probably didn't NEED to. Damn sure I would not have caved today if I didn't post roll. My quit is as strong as it has ever been. If I skipped a week would I cave?... again 100 percent sure that answer would be no. ditto for a month. But a year? 1000 days, 5000 days? For me the answer becomes a bit less certain... even if the chances were 2% that I would cave in that time, that is still to great. I fought way to long and hard to get here... 36.5 years to be exact. I danced with the devil long enough to have a healthy respect of how tenacious this addiction is. Posting roll is a way of reminding myself from whence I came... to realize that I am not infallible, to daily become humble in the face of my addiction.
The other big part of posting roll at this stage in the game is the brotherhood I have been blessed to be a part of here. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt if I was missing on roll call the object of my fellow brothers in May 2011 would not be to call me out in public, or hold me up to embarrassment and public humiliation... First and foremost on their minds would be to check in and make sure that everything is ok. I am sure I would get several texts,pm's,emails and phone calls out of genuine concern. I am sure a few of them would cross the country to be at my door if I needed. That kind of brotherhood can't be found on a spreadsheet.
Finally to answer your question: I can't tell you who needs to post every day here. The idealistic answer is everybody, and indeed I would like to see that as it would be my advice to everyone.. but to be fair I don't speak from the perspective of someone with 3000 days quit. I don't look through the world through the eyes of any other quitter here. I look at quit through my eyes. I can tell you that at day 1283 I am on roll call and that promise is non-negotiable. Bet against day 1283 and you will lose. I guarantee it. As for day 1284, if God blesses me with another day on this earth I plan to be here as well, and I would encourage you not to bet against that one either.
Awesome answer 30year. I think my approach of shaming those who miss roll might be extreme. It just gets so frustrating dealing with the same half ass quitters. Gonna modify my approach. Thank you again for your well thought out and honest answer.
I'll be your huckleberry as well since I seem to be a favorite of yours CM :)
For the most part, I echo 30's words, but also want to be a good example for everyone on site. For a long, long time, I HAD to post roll. My conscience, my sanity, and my quit depended on it. For me, as I approach 4 yrs next month, I've seen a total evolution of my quit. The foundation is still roll and it takes at a very minimum of 100 days to drill that into a new quitters head. Look how many people leave at 101, they are magically cured. They all of a sudden "got it". I didn't. I posted daily for a very long time and still believe that it is the way to quit and stay quit. My roll here is to help anyone who needs it, my phone is full of quitters, and also full of cavers. I haven't deleted a single name that I've entered and there are many that aren't here any more. I reach out to them occasionally, with the usual response of silence. But sometimes I get an answer. Whether or not that person is quit or using, I'm keeping the fire alive, hopefully planting the accountability seed back in their head. And reassuring me that my quit is all that it can be.
I'm sure many of you guys have felt it early on. wake up, post roll, go on about your day. Somewhere along the way a crave hits, a trigger releases. My first thought even before I dealt with it, was Thank God I posted roll today, because succumbing to this crave/trigger is not going to happen. Now how do I get over it. Every time. I still feel the same. If I'm not on roll, I'll make every conscious effort to do so. As 30 states, my word is golden behind the name and day. Nothing is going to make me a liar to you Cav, the Sultans, 2014, or any quitter here.
As I put my mod hat on (which of course is rainbow colored to match my knee-highs) I'm blessed to have the opportunity to pay it back for all the times vets reached out and picked me up when I was foggy or down. When someone put a note in my intro saying whats up tarp, how ya been. There's many many ways to pay it back, even to the guys who are pre-HOF. Look around you, your brothers every day struggle, communication and activism are the keys. The more you're in touch, the brighter the torch shines for you, your group and our brotherhood.
I agree with 30, posting roll should be done daily for every member. I fully believe that somewhere down your path, you reach a point where that daily post reaches beyond 24 hours or one day. However that does not apply to pre-HOF, and I fully believe that it should last well beyond HOF. It will fall to you and how you need to manage your quit. We're all different, and we all manage our lives differently. I know my quit is as strong as Gibraltar and I'm not stupid enough to believe that I'm done with roll call or KTC. My work isn't done yet. I still have about 10 guys that post regularly in Dec 2010. Those guys are my brothers and my first line of defense. The next line is the full brotherhood of KTC. My digits are available to anyone and its open 24/7, except during the 15 minutes quarterly I get with mrs tarp. Other than that I'm all ears.
In summary, take care of you first, make sure you start your day with the power you need to stay clean. Secondly, there are many who need support here daily. Find them and help them. Its usually not that hard. Lastly, I got your back whether or not my name/number is in your support group or not. You need me, you know where I'm at.
thanks
tarp
Nicely done responses. Question gmann brought up is why some older long term posters continue to post above the line. Why so?
In my experience, seems like some vets get emotional with future groups with the same month. For example, me, I quit in December 2010, and I sometimes have an affinity for other december groups. But some guys find a calling in helping out in these months and posting above the line with the newbs.
Why do some vet quitters like to post above the line? If you have done your homework and read the old quit groups front to back, you would know the answer to the question. Site history is not a big thing with many of the new groups.
If I told you the answer, that would be the easy way out. Go find it....I guarantee will will find some golden nuggets along the way.
EDIT: sorry for the spoiler RT.
If you look at site history, the line was not always there. Great many discussions have been had about segregated roll.
Although I generally do not post above the line, I am ambivalent about the segregation. At day 1 or day 1000 my name on that roll means that I promise YOU, no matter how many days quit that I am not going to use nicotine. I acknowledge that like the person who just walked in and posted a day 1 that I am an addict. To me above the line means that I am side by side... while below that line seems to me like a "cheering section".
So why do I post below the line? It's really more pragmatic than anything- With the size of the recent quit groups, it makes it a little easier for the people in the quit group to keep track of the others.
One very nice solution in my opinion is to post roll in order of days quit... If you look at June 2011 they elected to go without a spreadsheet. The chronological approach made it easy to keep track of people, and if they chose to they could have eliminated the "line" before they hit HOF, it also spread the responsibility of keeping track to all of the quitters in the group, not just the folks that maintained the spreadsheet... to take it a step further, take a look at May '06. That would be another approach that would work(although I would recommend doing it in ascending chronology pre hof, at least). That format makes it VERY easy to keep track of when someone was missing. Bottom line, as your quit group forms, the format of rollcall/accountability is yours to do with as you please. You don't need a line, you don't need a spreadsheet, but you do need to find a way to keep track of each other.
My .02
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Bumperino el fixo uppo
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So here's an open question for any admin, any mod, or any member who wants to answer....
Is it okay for guys with serious days quit to just post when they feel like it or is the expectation that they post EDD, like those of us struggling to break the chains and haven't yet hit HOF?
I am not trying to stir up any "shit" or anything else. I believe this is a legit question. Do the "rules" of the site allow leniency for longer term quitters? I was led to believe that the foundation of this site is posting roll. If that's the case, would seem to me that it would apply to ALL active members, regardless of "seniority" in terms of # of quit days.
Would appreciate a straightforward answer here. Thanks.
Just going to offer you the first thoughts that pop into my head.
At Day 177, I need to post daily. I have a group of fellow June members who I text daily. At this point in my quit, I need to post DAILY. I can't say where I'll be come tomorrow, next week, or next month. Offer help and support to those who need, and want it. Admins and mods provide a special role to this place. They do shit that you and I never see. They volunteer their time to keep this place running. This place, I call it my quit sanctuary, provides you and I with a place to quit and succeed. If a mod or admin skips a day, big deal in my book. I didn't post July 3rd - July 6th. Yet my name was on roll, EDD. I text my quit into my quit buddies while on vacation. There are many facets of this site. Don't take everything at face value. I love your passion and no nonsense approach, but there are bigger battles to be fought. Take your passion for this topic, and apply it to "adopting" and new quitter. Teach him/her the ropes of this place and how to quit.
With you brother, bigger fish to fry though...
I cannot answer for anyone else... but I can answer for me. 30yrAddict, the quitter. (as opposed to the mod)
33 years I used nicotine. I would guess about 25 of those were spent trying to get free of this nasty addiction. When I arrived here I was desperate to be quit, wanted to be quit... but had no idea how to go about it. Luckily the folks here at KTC knew all about it. Skoal Monster was one of those. Remshot was another, Scowick was one of those. Gmann was another, and Frazzled, J2B. and so on. countless others. Some of these others no longer post roll regularly, but I am still grateful for the life that they gave this place so that I can be here today posting this 1283 days quit. For me to reject their contributions because they no longer post roll everyday would speak very poorly of my character.
Did I NEED to post roll today? At this point in my quit I would say I probably didn't NEED to. Damn sure I would not have caved today if I didn't post roll. My quit is as strong as it has ever been. If I skipped a week would I cave?... again 100 percent sure that answer would be no. ditto for a month. But a year? 1000 days, 5000 days? For me the answer becomes a bit less certain... even if the chances were 2% that I would cave in that time, that is still to great. I fought way to long and hard to get here... 36.5 years to be exact. I danced with the devil long enough to have a healthy respect of how tenacious this addiction is. Posting roll is a way of reminding myself from whence I came... to realize that I am not infallible, to daily become humble in the face of my addiction.
The other big part of posting roll at this stage in the game is the brotherhood I have been blessed to be a part of here. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt if I was missing on roll call the object of my fellow brothers in May 2011 would not be to call me out in public, or hold me up to embarrassment and public humiliation... First and foremost on their minds would be to check in and make sure that everything is ok. I am sure I would get several texts,pm's,emails and phone calls out of genuine concern. I am sure a few of them would cross the country to be at my door if I needed. That kind of brotherhood can't be found on a spreadsheet.
Finally to answer your question: I can't tell you who needs to post every day here. The idealistic answer is everybody, and indeed I would like to see that as it would be my advice to everyone.. but to be fair I don't speak from the perspective of someone with 3000 days quit. I don't look through the world through the eyes of any other quitter here. I look at quit through my eyes. I can tell you that at day 1283 I am on roll call and that promise is non-negotiable. Bet against day 1283 and you will lose. I guarantee it. As for day 1284, if God blesses me with another day on this earth I plan to be here as well, and I would encourage you not to bet against that one either.
Awesome answer 30year. I think my approach of shaming those who miss roll might be extreme. It just gets so frustrating dealing with the same half ass quitters. Gonna modify my approach. Thank you again for your well thought out and honest answer.
I'll be your huckleberry as well since I seem to be a favorite of yours CM :)
For the most part, I echo 30's words, but also want to be a good example for everyone on site. For a long, long time, I HAD to post roll. My conscience, my sanity, and my quit depended on it. For me, as I approach 4 yrs next month, I've seen a total evolution of my quit. The foundation is still roll and it takes at a very minimum of 100 days to drill that into a new quitters head. Look how many people leave at 101, they are magically cured. They all of a sudden "got it". I didn't. I posted daily for a very long time and still believe that it is the way to quit and stay quit. My roll here is to help anyone who needs it, my phone is full of quitters, and also full of cavers. I haven't deleted a single name that I've entered and there are many that aren't here any more. I reach out to them occasionally, with the usual response of silence. But sometimes I get an answer. Whether or not that person is quit or using, I'm keeping the fire alive, hopefully planting the accountability seed back in their head. And reassuring me that my quit is all that it can be.
I'm sure many of you guys have felt it early on. wake up, post roll, go on about your day. Somewhere along the way a crave hits, a trigger releases. My first thought even before I dealt with it, was Thank God I posted roll today, because succumbing to this crave/trigger is not going to happen. Now how do I get over it. Every time. I still feel the same. If I'm not on roll, I'll make every conscious effort to do so. As 30 states, my word is golden behind the name and day. Nothing is going to make me a liar to you Cav, the Sultans, 2014, or any quitter here.
As I put my mod hat on (which of course is rainbow colored to match my knee-highs) I'm blessed to have the opportunity to pay it back for all the times vets reached out and picked me up when I was foggy or down. When someone put a note in my intro saying whats up tarp, how ya been. There's many many ways to pay it back, even to the guys who are pre-HOF. Look around you, your brothers every day struggle, communication and activism are the keys. The more you're in touch, the brighter the torch shines for you, your group and our brotherhood.
I agree with 30, posting roll should be done daily for every member. I fully believe that somewhere down your path, you reach a point where that daily post reaches beyond 24 hours or one day. However that does not apply to pre-HOF, and I fully believe that it should last well beyond HOF. It will fall to you and how you need to manage your quit. We're all different, and we all manage our lives differently. I know my quit is as strong as Gibraltar and I'm not stupid enough to believe that I'm done with roll call or KTC. My work isn't done yet. I still have about 10 guys that post regularly in Dec 2010. Those guys are my brothers and my first line of defense. The next line is the full brotherhood of KTC. My digits are available to anyone and its open 24/7, except during the 15 minutes quarterly I get with mrs tarp. Other than that I'm all ears.
In summary, take care of you first, make sure you start your day with the power you need to stay clean. Secondly, there are many who need support here daily. Find them and help them. Its usually not that hard. Lastly, I got your back whether or not my name/number is in your support group or not. You need me, you know where I'm at.
thanks
tarp
Nicely done responses. Question gmann brought up is why some older long term posters continue to post above the line. Why so?
In my experience, seems like some vets get emotional with future groups with the same month. For example, me, I quit in December 2010, and I sometimes have an affinity for other december groups. But some guys find a calling in helping out in these months and posting above the line with the newbs.
Why do some vet quitters like to post above the line? If you have done your homework and read the old quit groups front to back, you would know the answer to the question. Site history is not a big thing with many of the new groups.
If I told you the answer, that would be the easy way out. Go find it....I guarantee will will find some golden nuggets along the way.
EDIT: sorry for the spoiler RT.
If you look at site history, the line was not always there. Great many discussions have been had about segregated roll.
Although I generally do not post above the line, I am ambivalent about the segregation. At day 1 or day 1000 my name on that roll means that I promise YOU, no matter how many days quit that I am not going to use nicotine. I acknowledge that like the person who just walked in and posted a day 1 that I am an addict. To me above the line means that I am side by side... while below that line seems to me like a "cheering section".
So why do I post below the line? It's really more pragmatic than anything- With the size of the recent quit groups, it makes it a little easier for the people in the quit group to keep track of the others.
One very nice solution in my opinion is to post roll in order of days quit... If you look at June 2011 they elected to go without a spreadsheet. The chronological approach made it easy to keep track of people, and if they chose to they could have eliminated the "line" before they hit HOF, it also spread the responsibility of keeping track to all of the quitters in the group, not just the folks that maintained the spreadsheet... to take it a step further, take a look at May '06. That would be another approach that would work(although I would recommend doing it in ascending chronology pre hof, at least). That format makes it VERY easy to keep track of when someone was missing. Bottom line, as your quit group forms, the format of rollcall/accountability is yours to do with as you please. You don't need a line, you don't need a spreadsheet, but you do need to find a way to keep track of each other.
My .02
Just like I been told, 30 gives it up too easy.
Spreadsheets suck donkey balls. Keeping the spreadsheet up to date becomes too much of the focus.
I hate...I mean LOATHE...when a know it all vet comes into a new group and asks: "who's keeping the spreadsheet?" As if no other way to keep people accountable has ever existed.
Do what works for your group. Fuckity fuck.
Okay, sorry, what was the question?
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So here's an open question for any admin, any mod, or any member who wants to answer....
Is it okay for guys with serious days quit to just post when they feel like it or is the expectation that they post EDD, like those of us struggling to break the chains and haven't yet hit HOF?
I am not trying to stir up any "shit" or anything else. I believe this is a legit question. Do the "rules" of the site allow leniency for longer term quitters? I was led to believe that the foundation of this site is posting roll. If that's the case, would seem to me that it would apply to ALL active members, regardless of "seniority" in terms of # of quit days.
Would appreciate a straightforward answer here. Thanks.
Just going to offer you the first thoughts that pop into my head.
At Day 177, I need to post daily. I have a group of fellow June members who I text daily. At this point in my quit, I need to post DAILY. I can't say where I'll be come tomorrow, next week, or next month. Offer help and support to those who need, and want it. Admins and mods provide a special role to this place. They do shit that you and I never see. They volunteer their time to keep this place running. This place, I call it my quit sanctuary, provides you and I with a place to quit and succeed. If a mod or admin skips a day, big deal in my book. I didn't post July 3rd - July 6th. Yet my name was on roll, EDD. I text my quit into my quit buddies while on vacation. There are many facets of this site. Don't take everything at face value. I love your passion and no nonsense approach, but there are bigger battles to be fought. Take your passion for this topic, and apply it to "adopting" and new quitter. Teach him/her the ropes of this place and how to quit.
With you brother, bigger fish to fry though...
I cannot answer for anyone else... but I can answer for me. 30yrAddict, the quitter. (as opposed to the mod)
33 years I used nicotine. I would guess about 25 of those were spent trying to get free of this nasty addiction. When I arrived here I was desperate to be quit, wanted to be quit... but had no idea how to go about it. Luckily the folks here at KTC knew all about it. Skoal Monster was one of those. Remshot was another, Scowick was one of those. Gmann was another, and Frazzled, J2B. and so on. countless others. Some of these others no longer post roll regularly, but I am still grateful for the life that they gave this place so that I can be here today posting this 1283 days quit. For me to reject their contributions because they no longer post roll everyday would speak very poorly of my character.
Did I NEED to post roll today? At this point in my quit I would say I probably didn't NEED to. Damn sure I would not have caved today if I didn't post roll. My quit is as strong as it has ever been. If I skipped a week would I cave?... again 100 percent sure that answer would be no. ditto for a month. But a year? 1000 days, 5000 days? For me the answer becomes a bit less certain... even if the chances were 2% that I would cave in that time, that is still to great. I fought way to long and hard to get here... 36.5 years to be exact. I danced with the devil long enough to have a healthy respect of how tenacious this addiction is. Posting roll is a way of reminding myself from whence I came... to realize that I am not infallible, to daily become humble in the face of my addiction.
The other big part of posting roll at this stage in the game is the brotherhood I have been blessed to be a part of here. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt if I was missing on roll call the object of my fellow brothers in May 2011 would not be to call me out in public, or hold me up to embarrassment and public humiliation... First and foremost on their minds would be to check in and make sure that everything is ok. I am sure I would get several texts,pm's,emails and phone calls out of genuine concern. I am sure a few of them would cross the country to be at my door if I needed. That kind of brotherhood can't be found on a spreadsheet.
Finally to answer your question: I can't tell you who needs to post every day here. The idealistic answer is everybody, and indeed I would like to see that as it would be my advice to everyone.. but to be fair I don't speak from the perspective of someone with 3000 days quit. I don't look through the world through the eyes of any other quitter here. I look at quit through my eyes. I can tell you that at day 1283 I am on roll call and that promise is non-negotiable. Bet against day 1283 and you will lose. I guarantee it. As for day 1284, if God blesses me with another day on this earth I plan to be here as well, and I would encourage you not to bet against that one either.
Awesome answer 30year. I think my approach of shaming those who miss roll might be extreme. It just gets so frustrating dealing with the same half ass quitters. Gonna modify my approach. Thank you again for your well thought out and honest answer.
I'll be your huckleberry as well since I seem to be a favorite of yours CM :)
For the most part, I echo 30's words, but also want to be a good example for everyone on site. For a long, long time, I HAD to post roll. My conscience, my sanity, and my quit depended on it. For me, as I approach 4 yrs next month, I've seen a total evolution of my quit. The foundation is still roll and it takes at a very minimum of 100 days to drill that into a new quitters head. Look how many people leave at 101, they are magically cured. They all of a sudden "got it". I didn't. I posted daily for a very long time and still believe that it is the way to quit and stay quit. My roll here is to help anyone who needs it, my phone is full of quitters, and also full of cavers. I haven't deleted a single name that I've entered and there are many that aren't here any more. I reach out to them occasionally, with the usual response of silence. But sometimes I get an answer. Whether or not that person is quit or using, I'm keeping the fire alive, hopefully planting the accountability seed back in their head. And reassuring me that my quit is all that it can be.
I'm sure many of you guys have felt it early on. wake up, post roll, go on about your day. Somewhere along the way a crave hits, a trigger releases. My first thought even before I dealt with it, was Thank God I posted roll today, because succumbing to this crave/trigger is not going to happen. Now how do I get over it. Every time. I still feel the same. If I'm not on roll, I'll make every conscious effort to do so. As 30 states, my word is golden behind the name and day. Nothing is going to make me a liar to you Cav, the Sultans, 2014, or any quitter here.
As I put my mod hat on (which of course is rainbow colored to match my knee-highs) I'm blessed to have the opportunity to pay it back for all the times vets reached out and picked me up when I was foggy or down. When someone put a note in my intro saying whats up tarp, how ya been. There's many many ways to pay it back, even to the guys who are pre-HOF. Look around you, your brothers every day struggle, communication and activism are the keys. The more you're in touch, the brighter the torch shines for you, your group and our brotherhood.
I agree with 30, posting roll should be done daily for every member. I fully believe that somewhere down your path, you reach a point where that daily post reaches beyond 24 hours or one day. However that does not apply to pre-HOF, and I fully believe that it should last well beyond HOF. It will fall to you and how you need to manage your quit. We're all different, and we all manage our lives differently. I know my quit is as strong as Gibraltar and I'm not stupid enough to believe that I'm done with roll call or KTC. My work isn't done yet. I still have about 10 guys that post regularly in Dec 2010. Those guys are my brothers and my first line of defense. The next line is the full brotherhood of KTC. My digits are available to anyone and its open 24/7, except during the 15 minutes quarterly I get with mrs tarp. Other than that I'm all ears.
In summary, take care of you first, make sure you start your day with the power you need to stay clean. Secondly, there are many who need support here daily. Find them and help them. Its usually not that hard. Lastly, I got your back whether or not my name/number is in your support group or not. You need me, you know where I'm at.
thanks
tarp
Nicely done responses. Question gmann brought up is why some older long term posters continue to post above the line. Why so?
In my experience, seems like some vets get emotional with future groups with the same month. For example, me, I quit in December 2010, and I sometimes have an affinity for other december groups. But some guys find a calling in helping out in these months and posting above the line with the newbs.
Why do some vet quitters like to post above the line? If you have done your homework and read the old quit groups front to back, you would know the answer to the question. Site history is not a big thing with many of the new groups.
If I told you the answer, that would be the easy way out. Go find it....I guarantee will will find some golden nuggets along the way.
EDIT: sorry for the spoiler RT.
If you look at site history, the line was not always there. Great many discussions have been had about segregated roll.
Although I generally do not post above the line, I am ambivalent about the segregation. At day 1 or day 1000 my name on that roll means that I promise YOU, no matter how many days quit that I am not going to use nicotine. I acknowledge that like the person who just walked in and posted a day 1 that I am an addict. To me above the line means that I am side by side... while below that line seems to me like a "cheering section".
So why do I post below the line? It's really more pragmatic than anything- With the size of the recent quit groups, it makes it a little easier for the people in the quit group to keep track of the others.
One very nice solution in my opinion is to post roll in order of days quit... If you look at June 2011 they elected to go without a spreadsheet. The chronological approach made it easy to keep track of people, and if they chose to they could have eliminated the "line" before they hit HOF, it also spread the responsibility of keeping track to all of the quitters in the group, not just the folks that maintained the spreadsheet... to take it a step further, take a look at May '06. That would be another approach that would work(although I would recommend doing it in ascending chronology pre hof, at least). That format makes it VERY easy to keep track of when someone was missing. Bottom line, as your quit group forms, the format of rollcall/accountability is yours to do with as you please. You don't need a line, you don't need a spreadsheet, but you do need to find a way to keep track of each other.
My .02
Just like I been told, 30 gives it up too easy.
Spreadsheets suck donkey balls. Keeping the spreadsheet up to date becomes too much of the focus.
I hate...I mean LOATHE...when a know it all vet comes into a new group and asks: "who's keeping the spreadsheet?" As if no other way to keep people accountable has ever existed.
Do what works for your group. Fuckity fuck.
Okay, sorry, what was the question?
Hey CavMan. I have so far been able to post roll 100% for 336 days today. Doesn't mean I'm infallable. All I got to say to you is we are coming after you if you miss one day man!!!! Oh and no there is no excuse to miss one day period!!!
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So here's an open question for any admin, any mod, or any member who wants to answer....
Is it okay for guys with serious days quit to just post when they feel like it or is the expectation that they post EDD, like those of us struggling to break the chains and haven't yet hit HOF?
I am not trying to stir up any "shit" or anything else. I believe this is a legit question. Do the "rules" of the site allow leniency for longer term quitters? I was led to believe that the foundation of this site is posting roll. If that's the case, would seem to me that it would apply to ALL active members, regardless of "seniority" in terms of # of quit days.
Would appreciate a straightforward answer here. Thanks.
Just going to offer you the first thoughts that pop into my head.
At Day 177, I need to post daily. I have a group of fellow June members who I text daily. At this point in my quit, I need to post DAILY. I can't say where I'll be come tomorrow, next week, or next month. Offer help and support to those who need, and want it. Admins and mods provide a special role to this place. They do shit that you and I never see. They volunteer their time to keep this place running. This place, I call it my quit sanctuary, provides you and I with a place to quit and succeed. If a mod or admin skips a day, big deal in my book. I didn't post July 3rd - July 6th. Yet my name was on roll, EDD. I text my quit into my quit buddies while on vacation. There are many facets of this site. Don't take everything at face value. I love your passion and no nonsense approach, but there are bigger battles to be fought. Take your passion for this topic, and apply it to "adopting" and new quitter. Teach him/her the ropes of this place and how to quit.
With you brother, bigger fish to fry though...
I cannot answer for anyone else... but I can answer for me. 30yrAddict, the quitter. (as opposed to the mod)
33 years I used nicotine. I would guess about 25 of those were spent trying to get free of this nasty addiction. When I arrived here I was desperate to be quit, wanted to be quit... but had no idea how to go about it. Luckily the folks here at KTC knew all about it. Skoal Monster was one of those. Remshot was another, Scowick was one of those. Gmann was another, and Frazzled, J2B. and so on. countless others. Some of these others no longer post roll regularly, but I am still grateful for the life that they gave this place so that I can be here today posting this 1283 days quit. For me to reject their contributions because they no longer post roll everyday would speak very poorly of my character.
Did I NEED to post roll today? At this point in my quit I would say I probably didn't NEED to. Damn sure I would not have caved today if I didn't post roll. My quit is as strong as it has ever been. If I skipped a week would I cave?... again 100 percent sure that answer would be no. ditto for a month. But a year? 1000 days, 5000 days? For me the answer becomes a bit less certain... even if the chances were 2% that I would cave in that time, that is still to great. I fought way to long and hard to get here... 36.5 years to be exact. I danced with the devil long enough to have a healthy respect of how tenacious this addiction is. Posting roll is a way of reminding myself from whence I came... to realize that I am not infallible, to daily become humble in the face of my addiction.
The other big part of posting roll at this stage in the game is the brotherhood I have been blessed to be a part of here. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt if I was missing on roll call the object of my fellow brothers in May 2011 would not be to call me out in public, or hold me up to embarrassment and public humiliation... First and foremost on their minds would be to check in and make sure that everything is ok. I am sure I would get several texts,pm's,emails and phone calls out of genuine concern. I am sure a few of them would cross the country to be at my door if I needed. That kind of brotherhood can't be found on a spreadsheet.
Finally to answer your question: I can't tell you who needs to post every day here. The idealistic answer is everybody, and indeed I would like to see that as it would be my advice to everyone.. but to be fair I don't speak from the perspective of someone with 3000 days quit. I don't look through the world through the eyes of any other quitter here. I look at quit through my eyes. I can tell you that at day 1283 I am on roll call and that promise is non-negotiable. Bet against day 1283 and you will lose. I guarantee it. As for day 1284, if God blesses me with another day on this earth I plan to be here as well, and I would encourage you not to bet against that one either.
Awesome answer 30year. I think my approach of shaming those who miss roll might be extreme. It just gets so frustrating dealing with the same half ass quitters. Gonna modify my approach. Thank you again for your well thought out and honest answer.
I'll be your huckleberry as well since I seem to be a favorite of yours CM :)
For the most part, I echo 30's words, but also want to be a good example for everyone on site. For a long, long time, I HAD to post roll. My conscience, my sanity, and my quit depended on it. For me, as I approach 4 yrs next month, I've seen a total evolution of my quit. The foundation is still roll and it takes at a very minimum of 100 days to drill that into a new quitters head. Look how many people leave at 101, they are magically cured. They all of a sudden "got it". I didn't. I posted daily for a very long time and still believe that it is the way to quit and stay quit. My roll here is to help anyone who needs it, my phone is full of quitters, and also full of cavers. I haven't deleted a single name that I've entered and there are many that aren't here any more. I reach out to them occasionally, with the usual response of silence. But sometimes I get an answer. Whether or not that person is quit or using, I'm keeping the fire alive, hopefully planting the accountability seed back in their head. And reassuring me that my quit is all that it can be.
I'm sure many of you guys have felt it early on. wake up, post roll, go on about your day. Somewhere along the way a crave hits, a trigger releases. My first thought even before I dealt with it, was Thank God I posted roll today, because succumbing to this crave/trigger is not going to happen. Now how do I get over it. Every time. I still feel the same. If I'm not on roll, I'll make every conscious effort to do so. As 30 states, my word is golden behind the name and day. Nothing is going to make me a liar to you Cav, the Sultans, 2014, or any quitter here.
As I put my mod hat on (which of course is rainbow colored to match my knee-highs) I'm blessed to have the opportunity to pay it back for all the times vets reached out and picked me up when I was foggy or down. When someone put a note in my intro saying whats up tarp, how ya been. There's many many ways to pay it back, even to the guys who are pre-HOF. Look around you, your brothers every day struggle, communication and activism are the keys. The more you're in touch, the brighter the torch shines for you, your group and our brotherhood.
I agree with 30, posting roll should be done daily for every member. I fully believe that somewhere down your path, you reach a point where that daily post reaches beyond 24 hours or one day. However that does not apply to pre-HOF, and I fully believe that it should last well beyond HOF. It will fall to you and how you need to manage your quit. We're all different, and we all manage our lives differently. I know my quit is as strong as Gibraltar and I'm not stupid enough to believe that I'm done with roll call or KTC. My work isn't done yet. I still have about 10 guys that post regularly in Dec 2010. Those guys are my brothers and my first line of defense. The next line is the full brotherhood of KTC. My digits are available to anyone and its open 24/7, except during the 15 minutes quarterly I get with mrs tarp. Other than that I'm all ears.
In summary, take care of you first, make sure you start your day with the power you need to stay clean. Secondly, there are many who need support here daily. Find them and help them. Its usually not that hard. Lastly, I got your back whether or not my name/number is in your support group or not. You need me, you know where I'm at.
thanks
tarp
Nicely done responses. Question gmann brought up is why some older long term posters continue to post above the line. Why so?
In my experience, seems like some vets get emotional with future groups with the same month. For example, me, I quit in December 2010, and I sometimes have an affinity for other december groups. But some guys find a calling in helping out in these months and posting above the line with the newbs.
Why do some vet quitters like to post above the line? If you have done your homework and read the old quit groups front to back, you would know the answer to the question. Site history is not a big thing with many of the new groups.
If I told you the answer, that would be the easy way out. Go find it....I guarantee will will find some golden nuggets along the way.
EDIT: sorry for the spoiler RT.
If you look at site history, the line was not always there. Great many discussions have been had about segregated roll.
Although I generally do not post above the line, I am ambivalent about the segregation. At day 1 or day 1000 my name on that roll means that I promise YOU, no matter how many days quit that I am not going to use nicotine. I acknowledge that like the person who just walked in and posted a day 1 that I am an addict. To me above the line means that I am side by side... while below that line seems to me like a "cheering section".
So why do I post below the line? It's really more pragmatic than anything- With the size of the recent quit groups, it makes it a little easier for the people in the quit group to keep track of the others.
One very nice solution in my opinion is to post roll in order of days quit... If you look at June 2011 they elected to go without a spreadsheet. The chronological approach made it easy to keep track of people, and if they chose to they could have eliminated the "line" before they hit HOF, it also spread the responsibility of keeping track to all of the quitters in the group, not just the folks that maintained the spreadsheet... to take it a step further, take a look at May '06. That would be another approach that would work(although I would recommend doing it in ascending chronology pre hof, at least). That format makes it VERY easy to keep track of when someone was missing. Bottom line, as your quit group forms, the format of rollcall/accountability is yours to do with as you please. You don't need a line, you don't need a spreadsheet, but you do need to find a way to keep track of each other.
My .02
Just like I been told, 30 gives it up too easy.
Spreadsheets suck donkey balls. Keeping the spreadsheet up to date becomes too much of the focus.
I hate...I mean LOATHE...when a know it all vet comes into a new group and asks: "who's keeping the spreadsheet?" As if no other way to keep people accountable has ever existed.
Do what works for your group. Fuckity fuck.
Okay, sorry, what was the question?
Hey CavMan. I have so far been able to post roll 100% for 336 days today. Doesn't mean I'm infallable. All I got to say to you is we are coming after you if you miss one day man!!!! Oh and no there is no excuse to miss one day period!!!
All,
Thanks to each of you for your thoughtful responses. I appreciate your inputs. Just wanted to know if there was a hard and fast rule. Apparently, it's like others have said "take what you need and leave the rest". For me, posting daily is a non-negotiable. That may change in time, but won't be likely anytime soon. Thanks again.
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So here's an open question for any admin, any mod, or any member who wants to answer....
Is it okay for guys with serious days quit to just post when they feel like it or is the expectation that they post EDD, like those of us struggling to break the chains and haven't yet hit HOF?
I am not trying to stir up any "shit" or anything else. I believe this is a legit question. Do the "rules" of the site allow leniency for longer term quitters? I was led to believe that the foundation of this site is posting roll. If that's the case, would seem to me that it would apply to ALL active members, regardless of "seniority" in terms of # of quit days.
Would appreciate a straightforward answer here. Thanks.
Just going to offer you the first thoughts that pop into my head.
At Day 177, I need to post daily. I have a group of fellow June members who I text daily. At this point in my quit, I need to post DAILY. I can't say where I'll be come tomorrow, next week, or next month. Offer help and support to those who need, and want it. Admins and mods provide a special role to this place. They do shit that you and I never see. They volunteer their time to keep this place running. This place, I call it my quit sanctuary, provides you and I with a place to quit and succeed. If a mod or admin skips a day, big deal in my book. I didn't post July 3rd - July 6th. Yet my name was on roll, EDD. I text my quit into my quit buddies while on vacation. There are many facets of this site. Don't take everything at face value. I love your passion and no nonsense approach, but there are bigger battles to be fought. Take your passion for this topic, and apply it to "adopting" and new quitter. Teach him/her the ropes of this place and how to quit.
With you brother, bigger fish to fry though...
I cannot answer for anyone else... but I can answer for me. 30yrAddict, the quitter. (as opposed to the mod)
33 years I used nicotine. I would guess about 25 of those were spent trying to get free of this nasty addiction. When I arrived here I was desperate to be quit, wanted to be quit... but had no idea how to go about it. Luckily the folks here at KTC knew all about it. Skoal Monster was one of those. Remshot was another, Scowick was one of those. Gmann was another, and Frazzled, J2B. and so on. countless others. Some of these others no longer post roll regularly, but I am still grateful for the life that they gave this place so that I can be here today posting this 1283 days quit. For me to reject their contributions because they no longer post roll everyday would speak very poorly of my character.
Did I NEED to post roll today? At this point in my quit I would say I probably didn't NEED to. Damn sure I would not have caved today if I didn't post roll. My quit is as strong as it has ever been. If I skipped a week would I cave?... again 100 percent sure that answer would be no. ditto for a month. But a year? 1000 days, 5000 days? For me the answer becomes a bit less certain... even if the chances were 2% that I would cave in that time, that is still to great. I fought way to long and hard to get here... 36.5 years to be exact. I danced with the devil long enough to have a healthy respect of how tenacious this addiction is. Posting roll is a way of reminding myself from whence I came... to realize that I am not infallible, to daily become humble in the face of my addiction.
The other big part of posting roll at this stage in the game is the brotherhood I have been blessed to be a part of here. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt if I was missing on roll call the object of my fellow brothers in May 2011 would not be to call me out in public, or hold me up to embarrassment and public humiliation... First and foremost on their minds would be to check in and make sure that everything is ok. I am sure I would get several texts,pm's,emails and phone calls out of genuine concern. I am sure a few of them would cross the country to be at my door if I needed. That kind of brotherhood can't be found on a spreadsheet.
Finally to answer your question: I can't tell you who needs to post every day here. The idealistic answer is everybody, and indeed I would like to see that as it would be my advice to everyone.. but to be fair I don't speak from the perspective of someone with 3000 days quit. I don't look through the world through the eyes of any other quitter here. I look at quit through my eyes. I can tell you that at day 1283 I am on roll call and that promise is non-negotiable. Bet against day 1283 and you will lose. I guarantee it. As for day 1284, if God blesses me with another day on this earth I plan to be here as well, and I would encourage you not to bet against that one either.
Awesome answer 30year. I think my approach of shaming those who miss roll might be extreme. It just gets so frustrating dealing with the same half ass quitters. Gonna modify my approach. Thank you again for your well thought out and honest answer.
I'll be your huckleberry as well since I seem to be a favorite of yours CM :)
For the most part, I echo 30's words, but also want to be a good example for everyone on site. For a long, long time, I HAD to post roll. My conscience, my sanity, and my quit depended on it. For me, as I approach 4 yrs next month, I've seen a total evolution of my quit. The foundation is still roll and it takes at a very minimum of 100 days to drill that into a new quitters head. Look how many people leave at 101, they are magically cured. They all of a sudden "got it". I didn't. I posted daily for a very long time and still believe that it is the way to quit and stay quit. My roll here is to help anyone who needs it, my phone is full of quitters, and also full of cavers. I haven't deleted a single name that I've entered and there are many that aren't here any more. I reach out to them occasionally, with the usual response of silence. But sometimes I get an answer. Whether or not that person is quit or using, I'm keeping the fire alive, hopefully planting the accountability seed back in their head. And reassuring me that my quit is all that it can be.
I'm sure many of you guys have felt it early on. wake up, post roll, go on about your day. Somewhere along the way a crave hits, a trigger releases. My first thought even before I dealt with it, was Thank God I posted roll today, because succumbing to this crave/trigger is not going to happen. Now how do I get over it. Every time. I still feel the same. If I'm not on roll, I'll make every conscious effort to do so. As 30 states, my word is golden behind the name and day. Nothing is going to make me a liar to you Cav, the Sultans, 2014, or any quitter here.
As I put my mod hat on (which of course is rainbow colored to match my knee-highs) I'm blessed to have the opportunity to pay it back for all the times vets reached out and picked me up when I was foggy or down. When someone put a note in my intro saying whats up tarp, how ya been. There's many many ways to pay it back, even to the guys who are pre-HOF. Look around you, your brothers every day struggle, communication and activism are the keys. The more you're in touch, the brighter the torch shines for you, your group and our brotherhood.
I agree with 30, posting roll should be done daily for every member. I fully believe that somewhere down your path, you reach a point where that daily post reaches beyond 24 hours or one day. However that does not apply to pre-HOF, and I fully believe that it should last well beyond HOF. It will fall to you and how you need to manage your quit. We're all different, and we all manage our lives differently. I know my quit is as strong as Gibraltar and I'm not stupid enough to believe that I'm done with roll call or KTC. My work isn't done yet. I still have about 10 guys that post regularly in Dec 2010. Those guys are my brothers and my first line of defense. The next line is the full brotherhood of KTC. My digits are available to anyone and its open 24/7, except during the 15 minutes quarterly I get with mrs tarp. Other than that I'm all ears.
In summary, take care of you first, make sure you start your day with the power you need to stay clean. Secondly, there are many who need support here daily. Find them and help them. Its usually not that hard. Lastly, I got your back whether or not my name/number is in your support group or not. You need me, you know where I'm at.
thanks
tarp
Nicely done responses. Question gmann brought up is why some older long term posters continue to post above the line. Why so?
In my experience, seems like some vets get emotional with future groups with the same month. For example, me, I quit in December 2010, and I sometimes have an affinity for other december groups. But some guys find a calling in helping out in these months and posting above the line with the newbs.
Why do some vet quitters like to post above the line? If you have done your homework and read the old quit groups front to back, you would know the answer to the question. Site history is not a big thing with many of the new groups.
If I told you the answer, that would be the easy way out. Go find it....I guarantee will will find some golden nuggets along the way.
EDIT: sorry for the spoiler RT.
If you look at site history, the line was not always there. Great many discussions have been had about segregated roll.
Although I generally do not post above the line, I am ambivalent about the segregation. At day 1 or day 1000 my name on that roll means that I promise YOU, no matter how many days quit that I am not going to use nicotine. I acknowledge that like the person who just walked in and posted a day 1 that I am an addict. To me above the line means that I am side by side... while below that line seems to me like a "cheering section".
So why do I post below the line? It's really more pragmatic than anything- With the size of the recent quit groups, it makes it a little easier for the people in the quit group to keep track of the others.
One very nice solution in my opinion is to post roll in order of days quit... If you look at June 2011 they elected to go without a spreadsheet. The chronological approach made it easy to keep track of people, and if they chose to they could have eliminated the "line" before they hit HOF, it also spread the responsibility of keeping track to all of the quitters in the group, not just the folks that maintained the spreadsheet... to take it a step further, take a look at May '06. That would be another approach that would work(although I would recommend doing it in ascending chronology pre hof, at least). That format makes it VERY easy to keep track of when someone was missing. Bottom line, as your quit group forms, the format of rollcall/accountability is yours to do with as you please. You don't need a line, you don't need a spreadsheet, but you do need to find a way to keep track of each other.
My .02
Just like I been told, 30 gives it up too easy.
Spreadsheets suck donkey balls. Keeping the spreadsheet up to date becomes too much of the focus.
I hate...I mean LOATHE...when a know it all vet comes into a new group and asks: "who's keeping the spreadsheet?" As if no other way to keep people accountable has ever existed.
Do what works for your group. Fuckity fuck.
Okay, sorry, what was the question?
Hey CavMan. I have so far been able to post roll 100% for 336 days today. Doesn't mean I'm infallable. All I got to say to you is we are coming after you if you miss one day man!!!! Oh and no there is no excuse to miss one day period!!!
All,
Thanks to each of you for your thoughtful responses. I appreciate your inputs. Just wanted to know if there was a hard and fast rule. Apparently, it's like others have said "take what you need and leave the rest". For me, posting daily is a non-negotiable. That may change in time, but won't be likely anytime soon. Thanks again.
Why do I post roll? Why am I active at KTC?
At this point, I do not think I need to post roll, although I am not certain. At this point, I do not think I need KTC, although I am not certain. It seems I no longer fight with nicotine.
I am not here because I believe I must be here. I am here because I want to be here. I do not post roll because I need to post roll, I post roll because I want to post roll. I now post roll and participate in KTC because I am here to serve. Just as others showed me how to quit, I advance the same favor to new quitters. I ask nothing of the others that I might help. My help is offered with no strings attached. I just so happen to benefit greatly from serving others; my quit is strong. I also have formed many great friendships through KTC. I thank you for the opportunity to be here. I thank you for my quit.
KTC is not a daily obligation it is a privilege.
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So here's an open question for any admin, any mod, or any member who wants to answer....
Is it okay for guys with serious days quit to just post when they feel like it or is the expectation that they post EDD, like those of us struggling to break the chains and haven't yet hit HOF?
I am not trying to stir up any "shit" or anything else. I believe this is a legit question. Do the "rules" of the site allow leniency for longer term quitters? I was led to believe that the foundation of this site is posting roll. If that's the case, would seem to me that it would apply to ALL active members, regardless of "seniority" in terms of # of quit days.
Would appreciate a straightforward answer here. Thanks.
Just going to offer you the first thoughts that pop into my head.
At Day 177, I need to post daily. I have a group of fellow June members who I text daily. At this point in my quit, I need to post DAILY. I can't say where I'll be come tomorrow, next week, or next month. Offer help and support to those who need, and want it. Admins and mods provide a special role to this place. They do shit that you and I never see. They volunteer their time to keep this place running. This place, I call it my quit sanctuary, provides you and I with a place to quit and succeed. If a mod or admin skips a day, big deal in my book. I didn't post July 3rd - July 6th. Yet my name was on roll, EDD. I text my quit into my quit buddies while on vacation. There are many facets of this site. Don't take everything at face value. I love your passion and no nonsense approach, but there are bigger battles to be fought. Take your passion for this topic, and apply it to "adopting" and new quitter. Teach him/her the ropes of this place and how to quit.
With you brother, bigger fish to fry though...
I cannot answer for anyone else... but I can answer for me. 30yrAddict, the quitter. (as opposed to the mod)
33 years I used nicotine. I would guess about 25 of those were spent trying to get free of this nasty addiction. When I arrived here I was desperate to be quit, wanted to be quit... but had no idea how to go about it. Luckily the folks here at KTC knew all about it. Skoal Monster was one of those. Remshot was another, Scowick was one of those. Gmann was another, and Frazzled, J2B. and so on. countless others. Some of these others no longer post roll regularly, but I am still grateful for the life that they gave this place so that I can be here today posting this 1283 days quit. For me to reject their contributions because they no longer post roll everyday would speak very poorly of my character.
Did I NEED to post roll today? At this point in my quit I would say I probably didn't NEED to. Damn sure I would not have caved today if I didn't post roll. My quit is as strong as it has ever been. If I skipped a week would I cave?... again 100 percent sure that answer would be no. ditto for a month. But a year? 1000 days, 5000 days? For me the answer becomes a bit less certain... even if the chances were 2% that I would cave in that time, that is still to great. I fought way to long and hard to get here... 36.5 years to be exact. I danced with the devil long enough to have a healthy respect of how tenacious this addiction is. Posting roll is a way of reminding myself from whence I came... to realize that I am not infallible, to daily become humble in the face of my addiction.
The other big part of posting roll at this stage in the game is the brotherhood I have been blessed to be a part of here. I know beyond a shadow of a doubt if I was missing on roll call the object of my fellow brothers in May 2011 would not be to call me out in public, or hold me up to embarrassment and public humiliation... First and foremost on their minds would be to check in and make sure that everything is ok. I am sure I would get several texts,pm's,emails and phone calls out of genuine concern. I am sure a few of them would cross the country to be at my door if I needed. That kind of brotherhood can't be found on a spreadsheet.
Finally to answer your question: I can't tell you who needs to post every day here. The idealistic answer is everybody, and indeed I would like to see that as it would be my advice to everyone.. but to be fair I don't speak from the perspective of someone with 3000 days quit. I don't look through the world through the eyes of any other quitter here. I look at quit through my eyes. I can tell you that at day 1283 I am on roll call and that promise is non-negotiable. Bet against day 1283 and you will lose. I guarantee it. As for day 1284, if God blesses me with another day on this earth I plan to be here as well, and I would encourage you not to bet against that one either.
Awesome answer 30year. I think my approach of shaming those who miss roll might be extreme. It just gets so frustrating dealing with the same half ass quitters. Gonna modify my approach. Thank you again for your well thought out and honest answer.
I'll be your huckleberry as well since I seem to be a favorite of yours CM :)
For the most part, I echo 30's words, but also want to be a good example for everyone on site. For a long, long time, I HAD to post roll. My conscience, my sanity, and my quit depended on it. For me, as I approach 4 yrs next month, I've seen a total evolution of my quit. The foundation is still roll and it takes at a very minimum of 100 days to drill that into a new quitters head. Look how many people leave at 101, they are magically cured. They all of a sudden "got it". I didn't. I posted daily for a very long time and still believe that it is the way to quit and stay quit. My roll here is to help anyone who needs it, my phone is full of quitters, and also full of cavers. I haven't deleted a single name that I've entered and there are many that aren't here any more. I reach out to them occasionally, with the usual response of silence. But sometimes I get an answer. Whether or not that person is quit or using, I'm keeping the fire alive, hopefully planting the accountability seed back in their head. And reassuring me that my quit is all that it can be.
I'm sure many of you guys have felt it early on. wake up, post roll, go on about your day. Somewhere along the way a crave hits, a trigger releases. My first thought even before I dealt with it, was Thank God I posted roll today, because succumbing to this crave/trigger is not going to happen. Now how do I get over it. Every time. I still feel the same. If I'm not on roll, I'll make every conscious effort to do so. As 30 states, my word is golden behind the name and day. Nothing is going to make me a liar to you Cav, the Sultans, 2014, or any quitter here.
As I put my mod hat on (which of course is rainbow colored to match my knee-highs) I'm blessed to have the opportunity to pay it back for all the times vets reached out and picked me up when I was foggy or down. When someone put a note in my intro saying whats up tarp, how ya been. There's many many ways to pay it back, even to the guys who are pre-HOF. Look around you, your brothers every day struggle, communication and activism are the keys. The more you're in touch, the brighter the torch shines for you, your group and our brotherhood.
I agree with 30, posting roll should be done daily for every member. I fully believe that somewhere down your path, you reach a point where that daily post reaches beyond 24 hours or one day. However that does not apply to pre-HOF, and I fully believe that it should last well beyond HOF. It will fall to you and how you need to manage your quit. We're all different, and we all manage our lives differently. I know my quit is as strong as Gibraltar and I'm not stupid enough to believe that I'm done with roll call or KTC. My work isn't done yet. I still have about 10 guys that post regularly in Dec 2010. Those guys are my brothers and my first line of defense. The next line is the full brotherhood of KTC. My digits are available to anyone and its open 24/7, except during the 15 minutes quarterly I get with mrs tarp. Other than that I'm all ears.
In summary, take care of you first, make sure you start your day with the power you need to stay clean. Secondly, there are many who need support here daily. Find them and help them. Its usually not that hard. Lastly, I got your back whether or not my name/number is in your support group or not. You need me, you know where I'm at.
thanks
tarp
Nicely done responses. Question gmann brought up is why some older long term posters continue to post above the line. Why so?
In my experience, seems like some vets get emotional with future groups with the same month. For example, me, I quit in December 2010, and I sometimes have an affinity for other december groups. But some guys find a calling in helping out in these months and posting above the line with the newbs.
Why do some vet quitters like to post above the line? If you have done your homework and read the old quit groups front to back, you would know the answer to the question. Site history is not a big thing with many of the new groups.
If I told you the answer, that would be the easy way out. Go find it....I guarantee will will find some golden nuggets along the way.
EDIT: sorry for the spoiler RT.
If you look at site history, the line was not always there. Great many discussions have been had about segregated roll.
Although I generally do not post above the line, I am ambivalent about the segregation. At day 1 or day 1000 my name on that roll means that I promise YOU, no matter how many days quit that I am not going to use nicotine. I acknowledge that like the person who just walked in and posted a day 1 that I am an addict. To me above the line means that I am side by side... while below that line seems to me like a "cheering section".
So why do I post below the line? It's really more pragmatic than anything- With the size of the recent quit groups, it makes it a little easier for the people in the quit group to keep track of the others.
One very nice solution in my opinion is to post roll in order of days quit... If you look at June 2011 they elected to go without a spreadsheet. The chronological approach made it easy to keep track of people, and if they chose to they could have eliminated the "line" before they hit HOF, it also spread the responsibility of keeping track to all of the quitters in the group, not just the folks that maintained the spreadsheet... to take it a step further, take a look at May '06. That would be another approach that would work(although I would recommend doing it in ascending chronology pre hof, at least). That format makes it VERY easy to keep track of when someone was missing. Bottom line, as your quit group forms, the format of rollcall/accountability is yours to do with as you please. You don't need a line, you don't need a spreadsheet, but you do need to find a way to keep track of each other.
My .02
Just like I been told, 30 gives it up too easy.
Spreadsheets suck donkey balls. Keeping the spreadsheet up to date becomes too much of the focus.
I hate...I mean LOATHE...when a know it all vet comes into a new group and asks: "who's keeping the spreadsheet?" As if no other way to keep people accountable has ever existed.
Do what works for your group. Fuckity fuck.
Okay, sorry, what was the question?
Hey CavMan. I have so far been able to post roll 100% for 336 days today. Doesn't mean I'm infallable. All I got to say to you is we are coming after you if you miss one day man!!!! Oh and no there is no excuse to miss one day period!!!
All,
Thanks to each of you for your thoughtful responses. I appreciate your inputs. Just wanted to know if there was a hard and fast rule. Apparently, it's like others have said "take what you need and leave the rest". For me, posting daily is a non-negotiable. That may change in time, but won't be likely anytime soon. Thanks again.
Why do I post roll? Why am I active at KTC?
At this point, I do not think I need to post roll, although I am not certain. At this point, I do not think I need KTC, although I am not certain. It seems I no longer fight with nicotine.
I am not here because I believe I must be here. I am here because I want to be here. I do not post roll because I need to post roll, I post roll because I want to post roll. I now post roll and participate in KTC because I am here to serve. Just as others showed me how to quit, I advance the same favor to new quitters. I ask nothing of the others that I might help. My help is offered with no strings attached. I just so happen to benefit greatly from serving others; my quit is strong. I also have formed many great friendships through KTC. I thank you for the opportunity to be here. I thank you for my quit.
KTC is not a daily obligation it is a privilege.
I hate that this was a question that you felt obligated to ask. By now you should know the value of posting roll and what happens when one stops posting roll. Every caver I have read coming back here has one common theme. They stop posting roll. Accountability + brotherhood = Success and the first way to solve this equation is by posting roll. I hope you don't ever find yourself needing to ask this stupid question again. And yes, I think this is stupid question.
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I love seeing new quitters take posting roll so serious! Keep on keeping on and point out to others when they miss. After all this is a brotherhood of quit, no where does it say that we are supposed to be tolerant or nice.
I continue to post roll daily and that is the price of playing here, no more and no less.
P
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I love seeing new quitters take posting roll so serious! Keep on keeping on and point out to others when they miss. After all this is a brotherhood of quit, no where does it say that we are supposed to be tolerant or nice.
I continue to post roll daily and that is the price of playing here, no more and no less.
P
X 2
When do I stop posting roll? I'll answer right after I post roll.
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I love seeing new quitters take posting roll so serious! Keep on keeping on and point out to others when they miss. After all this is a brotherhood of quit, no where does it say that we are supposed to be tolerant or nice.
I continue to post roll daily and that is the price of playing here, no more and no less.
P
X 2
When do I stop posting roll? I'll answer right after I post roll.
x3. I personally choose to post here daily. I choose surround myself with people that will hold me accountable. I didn't come here for people that would accept failure. I came here to be told the truth by whatever means necessary to support a life of quit.
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Thanks 30=yr.
Evidently Steakbomb18 didn't understand the genesis of the question. I sincerely appreciate all the intelligent responses I received. Thanks Gents!
I believe I will quit today....tomorrow, and the days that follow!
R,
JDW
Honor....Integrity....Accountability
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I love seeing new quitters take posting roll so serious! Keep on keeping on and point out to others when they miss. After all this is a brotherhood of quit, no where does it say that we are supposed to be tolerant or nice.
I continue to post roll daily and that is the price of playing here, no more and no less.
P
Pinched (and others).
Thanks. I appreciate your sentiments. There are those who don't feel the same way, but I suppose to each his own. Can't police the entire battlespace, so for now will concentrate on me and my quit.
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I love seeing new quitters take posting roll so serious! Keep on keeping on and point out to others when they miss. After all this is a brotherhood of quit, no where does it say that we are supposed to be tolerant or nice.
I continue to post roll daily and that is the price of playing here, no more and no less.
P
Pinched (and others).
Thanks. I appreciate your sentiments. There are those who don't feel the same way, but I suppose to each his own. Can't police the entire battlespace, so for now will concentrate on me and my quit.
Cav- you keep doing what you're doing. As most of us concentrate on our own quit you continue to look out for every last one of us. You took the leadership position in our group and it is greatly appreciated. Many of us owe you a great deal of gratitude. I wouldn't be on day 85 without you. Sultan pride
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You know what, I read this and quite honestly you make me sick. You come in here like some know it all sending messages about how you will watch everyone, what you are is full of shit. You are an attention whore, and I am personally sick of your stupid antics. You don't give a shit about anyone, your message to me told me as much.
I took a break from this site because of assholes like you who think it is your job to see if someone posted roll and then call them out as if you are the king. I sent my promise to people everyday, and all you cared about is I took a break from roll. Not, hey is everything OK, can I help with something? No, you are a fucking me monkey.
I posted roll on day 48 when a friend of mine died of ovarian cancer at age 40. I posted roll or got it someone everyday in the first year of my quit while my father whithered away from a rare disease and died on day 390 of my quit. I was here, and when I wasn't I texted it. To this day I text quitters when I don't see them and ask them if they are ok. What do you do? You act like a jackass, you don't teach brotherhood, you want to accuse big brother of whatever because some whack job who took months off at a time from roll told you a story.
In almost 1800 days I have never had anyone question my quit because I never game them a reason. How about you actually worry about someone being ok in their quit instead of watching everyone else so you can catch them in something.
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You know what, I read this and quite honestly you make me sick. You come in here like some know it all sending messages about how you will watch everyone, what you are is full of shit. You are an attention whore, and I am personally sick of your stupid antics. You don't give a shit about anyone, your message to me told me as much.
I took a break from this site because of assholes like you who think it is your job to see if someone posted roll and then call them out as if you are the king. I sent my promise to people everyday, and all you cared about is I took a break from roll. Not, hey is everything OK, can I help with something? No, you are a fucking me monkey.
I posted roll on day 48 when a friend of mine died of ovarian cancer at age 40. I posted roll or got it someone everyday in the first year of my quit while my father whithered away from a rare disease and died on day 390 of my quit. I was here, and when I wasn't I texted it. To this day I text quitters when I don't see them and ask them if they are ok. What do you do? You act like a jackass, you don't teach brotherhood, you want to accuse big brother of whatever because some whack job who took months off at a time from roll told you a story.
In almost 1800 days I have never had anyone question my quit because I never game them a reason. How about you actually worry about someone being ok in their quit instead of watching everyone else so you can catch them in something.
Klark, you sound like a whiny bitch. Cavman is solid. Why don't you post everyday in your group and refuse to acknowledge accountability on someone else's intro page. You're an asshole. I've never seen you help anyone. I've only seen you berate people. You're an internet pussy/bully.
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You know what, I read this and quite honestly you make me sick. You come in here like some know it all sending messages about how you will watch everyone, what you are is full of shit. You are an attention whore, and I am personally sick of your stupid antics. You don't give a shit about anyone, your message to me told me as much.
I took a break from this site because of assholes like you who think it is your job to see if someone posted roll and then call them out as if you are the king. I sent my promise to people everyday, and all you cared about is I took a break from roll. Not, hey is everything OK, can I help with something? No, you are a fucking me monkey.
I posted roll on day 48 when a friend of mine died of ovarian cancer at age 40. I posted roll or got it someone everyday in the first year of my quit while my father whithered away from a rare disease and died on day 390 of my quit. I was here, and when I wasn't I texted it. To this day I text quitters when I don't see them and ask them if they are ok. What do you do? You act like a jackass, you don't teach brotherhood, you want to accuse big brother of whatever because some whack job who took months off at a time from roll told you a story.
In almost 1800 days I have never had anyone question my quit because I never game them a reason. How about you actually worry about someone being ok in their quit instead of watching everyone else so you can catch them in something.
Klark, you sound like a whiny bitch. Cavman is solid. Why don't you post everyday in your group and refuse to acknowledge accountability on someone else's intro page. You're an asshole. I've never seen you help anyone. I've only seen you berate people. You're an internet pussy/bully.
Thanks GHC. 'nuff said.
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You know what, I read this and quite honestly you make me sick. You come in here like some know it all sending messages about how you will watch everyone, what you are is full of shit. You are an attention whore, and I am personally sick of your stupid antics. You don't give a shit about anyone, your message to me told me as much.
I took a break from this site because of assholes like you who think it is your job to see if someone posted roll and then call them out as if you are the king. I sent my promise to people everyday, and all you cared about is I took a break from roll. Not, hey is everything OK, can I help with something? No, you are a fucking me monkey.
I posted roll on day 48 when a friend of mine died of ovarian cancer at age 40. I posted roll or got it someone everyday in the first year of my quit while my father whithered away from a rare disease and died on day 390 of my quit. I was here, and when I wasn't I texted it. To this day I text quitters when I don't see them and ask them if they are ok. What do you do? You act like a jackass, you don't teach brotherhood, you want to accuse big brother of whatever because some whack job who took months off at a time from roll told you a story.
In almost 1800 days I have never had anyone question my quit because I never game them a reason. How about you actually worry about someone being ok in their quit instead of watching everyone else so you can catch them in something.
Klark, you sound like a whiny bitch. Cavman is solid. Why don't you post everyday in your group and refuse to acknowledge accountability on someone else's intro page. You're an asshole. I've never seen you help anyone. I've only seen you berate people. You're an internet pussy/bully.
Thanks GHC. 'nuff said.
So I take it from this response that you both took the time to make sure Klark was ok? After all, isn't that the real core of brotherhood?
I personally HAVE seen Klark help many others.... and I know he does a ton behind the scenes via text.
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You know what, I read this and quite honestly you make me sick. You come in here like some know it all sending messages about how you will watch everyone, what you are is full of shit. You are an attention whore, and I am personally sick of your stupid antics. You don't give a shit about anyone, your message to me told me as much.
I took a break from this site because of assholes like you who think it is your job to see if someone posted roll and then call them out as if you are the king. I sent my promise to people everyday, and all you cared about is I took a break from roll. Not, hey is everything OK, can I help with something? No, you are a fucking me monkey.
I posted roll on day 48 when a friend of mine died of ovarian cancer at age 40. I posted roll or got it someone everyday in the first year of my quit while my father whithered away from a rare disease and died on day 390 of my quit. I was here, and when I wasn't I texted it. To this day I text quitters when I don't see them and ask them if they are ok. What do you do? You act like a jackass, you don't teach brotherhood, you want to accuse big brother of whatever because some whack job who took months off at a time from roll told you a story.
In almost 1800 days I have never had anyone question my quit because I never game them a reason. How about you actually worry about someone being ok in their quit instead of watching everyone else so you can catch them in something.
Klark, you sound like a whiny bitch. Cavman is solid. Why don't you post everyday in your group and refuse to acknowledge accountability on someone else's intro page. You're an asshole. I've never seen you help anyone. I've only seen you berate people. You're an internet pussy/bully.
Thanks GHC. 'nuff said.
From 30 year:
So I take it from this response that you both took the time to make sure Klark was ok? After all, isn't that the real core of brotherhood?
I personally HAVE seen Klark help many others.... and I know he does a ton behind the scenes via text.
Bump fix...
From slug.go
Klark, be constructive or be gone. Cavman is solid. HeÂ’s a true leader, not an internet bully. Big difference.
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You know what, I read this and quite honestly you make me sick. You come in here like some know it all sending messages about how you will watch everyone, what you are is full of shit. You are an attention whore, and I am personally sick of your stupid antics. You don't give a shit about anyone, your message to me told me as much.
I took a break from this site because of assholes like you who think it is your job to see if someone posted roll and then call them out as if you are the king. I sent my promise to people everyday, and all you cared about is I took a break from roll. Not, hey is everything OK, can I help with something? No, you are a fucking me monkey.
I posted roll on day 48 when a friend of mine died of ovarian cancer at age 40. I posted roll or got it someone everyday in the first year of my quit while my father whithered away from a rare disease and died on day 390 of my quit. I was here, and when I wasn't I texted it. To this day I text quitters when I don't see them and ask them if they are ok. What do you do? You act like a jackass, you don't teach brotherhood, you want to accuse big brother of whatever because some whack job who took months off at a time from roll told you a story.
In almost 1800 days I have never had anyone question my quit because I never game them a reason. How about you actually worry about someone being ok in their quit instead of watching everyone else so you can catch them in something.
Klark, you sound like a whiny bitch. Cavman is solid. Why don't you post everyday in your group and refuse to acknowledge accountability on someone else's intro page. You're an asshole. I've never seen you help anyone. I've only seen you berate people. You're an internet pussy/bully.
Thanks GHC. 'nuff said.
So I take it from this response that you both took the time to make sure Klark was ok? After all, isn't that the real core of brotherhood?
I personally HAVE seen Klark help many others.... and I know he does a ton behind the scenes via text.
I don't know Klark behind the scenes. I only know what I've seen here and in chat. By all appearances he is an asshole.
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You know what, I read this and quite honestly you make me sick. You come in here like some know it all sending messages about how you will watch everyone, what you are is full of shit. You are an attention whore, and I am personally sick of your stupid antics. You don't give a shit about anyone, your message to me told me as much.
I took a break from this site because of assholes like you who think it is your job to see if someone posted roll and then call them out as if you are the king. I sent my promise to people everyday, and all you cared about is I took a break from roll. Not, hey is everything OK, can I help with something? No, you are a fucking me monkey.
I posted roll on day 48 when a friend of mine died of ovarian cancer at age 40. I posted roll or got it someone everyday in the first year of my quit while my father whithered away from a rare disease and died on day 390 of my quit. I was here, and when I wasn't I texted it. To this day I text quitters when I don't see them and ask them if they are ok. What do you do? You act like a jackass, you don't teach brotherhood, you want to accuse big brother of whatever because some whack job who took months off at a time from roll told you a story.
In almost 1800 days I have never had anyone question my quit because I never game them a reason. How about you actually worry about someone being ok in their quit instead of watching everyone else so you can catch them in something.
Klark, you sound like a whiny bitch. Cavman is solid. Why don't you post everyday in your group and refuse to acknowledge accountability on someone else's intro page. You're an asshole. I've never seen you help anyone. I've only seen you berate people. You're an internet pussy/bully.
Thanks GHC. 'nuff said.
Really? You don't get it and I am tired of explaining it to people who think they know everything.
What gives you the right to question my quit when I have covered my quit everyday? Have you been here for everyday of my quit? You have not seem me help anyone? Enjoy your self righteousness, you make me sick.
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You know what, I read this and quite honestly you make me sick. You come in here like some know it all sending messages about how you will watch everyone, what you are is full of shit. You are an attention whore, and I am personally sick of your stupid antics. You don't give a shit about anyone, your message to me told me as much.
I took a break from this site because of assholes like you who think it is your job to see if someone posted roll and then call them out as if you are the king. I sent my promise to people everyday, and all you cared about is I took a break from roll. Not, hey is everything OK, can I help with something? No, you are a fucking me monkey.
I posted roll on day 48 when a friend of mine died of ovarian cancer at age 40. I posted roll or got it someone everyday in the first year of my quit while my father whithered away from a rare disease and died on day 390 of my quit. I was here, and when I wasn't I texted it. To this day I text quitters when I don't see them and ask them if they are ok. What do you do? You act like a jackass, you don't teach brotherhood, you want to accuse big brother of whatever because some whack job who took months off at a time from roll told you a story.
In almost 1800 days I have never had anyone question my quit because I never game them a reason. How about you actually worry about someone being ok in their quit instead of watching everyone else so you can catch them in something.
Klark, you sound like a whiny bitch. Cavman is solid. Why don't you post everyday in your group and refuse to acknowledge accountability on someone else's intro page. You're an asshole. I've never seen you help anyone. I've only seen you berate people. You're an internet pussy/bully.
Thanks GHC. 'nuff said.
Really? You don't get it and I am tired of explaining it to people who think they know everything.
What gives you the right to question my quit when I have covered my quit everyday? Have you been here for everyday of my quit? You have not seem me help anyone? Enjoy your self righteousness, you make me sick.
Look....as I said in my PM (and NOT in a public forum....) I noticed you were absent...I went to your quit group to see...there were some hit/miss texts putting you on roll. That's all. Didn't want to drag this into the open, but you obviously did. If EDD is to be the cornerstone of the site, then it applies to everyone, all the time. And that, SIR, is the last time I will opine publicly on the topic.
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You know what, I read this and quite honestly you make me sick. You come in here like some know it all sending messages about how you will watch everyone, what you are is full of shit. You are an attention whore, and I am personally sick of your stupid antics. You don't give a shit about anyone, your message to me told me as much.
I took a break from this site because of assholes like you who think it is your job to see if someone posted roll and then call them out as if you are the king. I sent my promise to people everyday, and all you cared about is I took a break from roll. Not, hey is everything OK, can I help with something? No, you are a fucking me monkey.
I posted roll on day 48 when a friend of mine died of ovarian cancer at age 40. I posted roll or got it someone everyday in the first year of my quit while my father whithered away from a rare disease and died on day 390 of my quit. I was here, and when I wasn't I texted it. To this day I text quitters when I don't see them and ask them if they are ok. What do you do? You act like a jackass, you don't teach brotherhood, you want to accuse big brother of whatever because some whack job who took months off at a time from roll told you a story.
In almost 1800 days I have never had anyone question my quit because I never game them a reason. How about you actually worry about someone being ok in their quit instead of watching everyone else so you can catch them in something.
Klark, you sound like a whiny bitch. Cavman is solid. Why don't you post everyday in your group and refuse to acknowledge accountability on someone else's intro page. You're an asshole. I've never seen you help anyone. I've only seen you berate people. You're an internet pussy/bully.
Thanks GHC. 'nuff said.
Really? You don't get it and I am tired of explaining it to people who think they know everything.
What gives you the right to question my quit when I have covered my quit everyday? Have you been here for everyday of my quit? You have not seem me help anyone? Enjoy your self righteousness, you make me sick.
Look....as I said in my PM (and NOT in a public forum....) I noticed you were absent...I went to your quit group to see...there were some hit/miss texts putting you on roll. That's all. Didn't want to drag this into the open, but you obviously did. If EDD is to be the cornerstone of the site, then it applies to everyone, all the time. And that, SIR, is the last time I will opine publicly on the topic.
I stand with Cavman all day. Leadership not 'bullyship'.
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You know what, I read this and quite honestly you make me sick. You come in here like some know it all sending messages about how you will watch everyone, what you are is full of shit. You are an attention whore, and I am personally sick of your stupid antics. You don't give a shit about anyone, your message to me told me as much.
I took a break from this site because of assholes like you who think it is your job to see if someone posted roll and then call them out as if you are the king. I sent my promise to people everyday, and all you cared about is I took a break from roll. Not, hey is everything OK, can I help with something? No, you are a fucking me monkey.
I posted roll on day 48 when a friend of mine died of ovarian cancer at age 40. I posted roll or got it someone everyday in the first year of my quit while my father whithered away from a rare disease and died on day 390 of my quit. I was here, and when I wasn't I texted it. To this day I text quitters when I don't see them and ask them if they are ok. What do you do? You act like a jackass, you don't teach brotherhood, you want to accuse big brother of whatever because some whack job who took months off at a time from roll told you a story.
In almost 1800 days I have never had anyone question my quit because I never game them a reason. How about you actually worry about someone being ok in their quit instead of watching everyone else so you can catch them in something.
Klark, you sound like a whiny bitch. Cavman is solid. Why don't you post everyday in your group and refuse to acknowledge accountability on someone else's intro page. You're an asshole. I've never seen you help anyone. I've only seen you berate people. You're an internet pussy/bully.
Thanks GHC. 'nuff said.
Really? You don't get it and I am tired of explaining it to people who think they know everything.
What gives you the right to question my quit when I have covered my quit everyday? Have you been here for everyday of my quit? You have not seem me help anyone? Enjoy your self righteousness, you make me sick.
Look....as I said in my PM (and NOT in a public forum....) I noticed you were absent...I went to your quit group to see...there were some hit/miss texts putting you on roll. That's all. Didn't want to drag this into the open, but you obviously did. If EDD is to be the cornerstone of the site, then it applies to everyone, all the time. And that, SIR, is the last time I will opine publicly on the topic.
My perspective at day 128... Cavman has taken a month where the quitters grew 75% vs the previous month and became the de facto leader. He's taken 69 guys and 1 lady and melded a solid quit group. He posts somewhere between 5pm and 6pm daily a list of who is missing and constantly strives for 100% roll. I see his posts all over in other groups, in intros. As Grizzly said, Cavman is solid.
Klark - Can't really comment on him other than his post in Cav's intro was over the line. Surprised he is a mod. Thought I knew all of them.
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For the record, and not that it matters, but......two of Klark's missing posts are on me. I was away from my phone and didn't see his text until the next day. My bad...update your records and reports if you need. His word is good with me.
My friend Klark here is a good man. He has spent countless thousands of hours on this site, in chat, on the phone, and via text helping quitters on this site.
Every once in a while, we ALL need a break from the day to day grind of the site and clear our heads. You will come to understand that in time.
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Congrats Cavman on hitting the hall and keeping it clean is September!
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Congrats Cavman on hitting the hall and keeping it clean is September!
HELL YES! TRAIN RIDING! WAY TO CRUSH 100 DAYS! HUGE MILESTONE.
Remember - you are not cured. I will expect you again tomorrow. EDD friend. EDD!
There must be a pair of heels out there for today's celebration. Let's see what I have.... :)
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Congrats Cavman on hitting the hall and keeping it clean is September!
HELL YES! TRAIN RIDING! WAY TO CRUSH 100 DAYS! HUGE MILESTONE.
Remember - you are not cured. I will expect you again tomorrow. EDD friend. EDD!
There must be a pair of heels out there for today's celebration. Let's see what I have.... :)
Congrats on your first of many KTC milestones.
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Congrats on HOF sir!
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Congrats Cavman! Keep up the solid quit!
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Congrats Cavman! Keep up the solid quit!
'clap'
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Congrats Cavman! Keep up the solid quit!
'clap'
Cav, great work. Keep bringing the enthusiasm. We need it.
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All,
Thanks for the kind congratulations today. I know I'm nowhere close to being cured. That won't happen until I cease sucking oxygen! I know I've ticked off a few people here by my attitude that posting is for EVERYONE, EVERYDAY but quite honestly can't and won't apologize for it. So to all quitters out there; Post Early, Post Often, Honor your Post; Repeat.
Thanks again.
Honor....Integrity....Accountability
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All,
Thanks for the kind congratulations today. I know I'm nowhere close to being cured. That won't happen until I cease sucking oxygen! I know I've ticked off a few people here by my attitude that posting is for EVERYONE, EVERYDAY but quite honestly can't and won't apologize for it. So to all quitters out there; Post Early, Post Often, Honor your Post; Repeat.
Thanks again.
Honor....Integrity....Accountability
well done, friend.
keep moving forward.
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All,
Thanks for the kind congratulations today. I know I'm nowhere close to being cured. That won't happen until I cease sucking oxygen! I know I've ticked off a few people here by my attitude that posting is for EVERYONE, EVERYDAY but quite honestly can't and won't apologize for it. So to all quitters out there; Post Early, Post Often, Honor your Post; Repeat.
Thanks again.
Honor....Integrity....Accountability
Congrats on the 101 today cav. damn proud to quit with you.
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All,
Thanks for the kind congratulations today. I know I'm nowhere close to being cured. That won't happen until I cease sucking oxygen! I know I've ticked off a few people here by my attitude that posting is for EVERYONE, EVERYDAY but quite honestly can't and won't apologize for it. So to all quitters out there; Post Early, Post Often, Honor your Post; Repeat.
Thanks again.
Honor....Integrity....Accountability
Congrats on the 101 today cav. damn proud to quit with you.
Well done!
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Congrats on a solid quit.
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Congrats to you Cav. Don't worry about pissing people off, don't ever apologize, it's a sign of weakness. Keep doing what your doing.
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nice work cavman!
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All,
Thanks for the kind congratulations today. I know I'm nowhere close to being cured. That won't happen until I cease sucking oxygen! I know I've ticked off a few people here by my attitude that posting is for EVERYONE, EVERYDAY but quite honestly can't and won't apologize for it. So to all quitters out there; Post Early, Post Often, Honor your Post; Repeat.
Thanks again.
Honor....Integrity....Accountability
Congrats on the 101 today cav. damn proud to quit with you.
Well done!
Nice job brother! Just one milestone of many on your journey. Stay the course and you will be delivered to where you want to be. We've talked about this. That clarity will come and your head will be screwed on straight, just be patient brother! Proud of you!
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All,
Thanks for the kind congratulations today. I know I'm nowhere close to being cured. That won't happen until I cease sucking oxygen! I know I've ticked off a few people here by my attitude that posting is for EVERYONE, EVERYDAY but quite honestly can't and won't apologize for it. So to all quitters out there; Post Early, Post Often, Honor your Post; Repeat.
Thanks again.
Honor....Integrity....Accountability
Congrats on the 101 today cav. damn proud to quit with you.
Well done!
Nice job brother! Just one milestone of many on your journey. Stay the course and you will be delivered to where you want to be. We've talked about this. That clarity will come and your head will be screwed on straight, just be patient brother! Proud of you!
Nice Job!! Congrats
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All,
Thanks for the kind congratulations today. I know I'm nowhere close to being cured. That won't happen until I cease sucking oxygen! I know I've ticked off a few people here by my attitude that posting is for EVERYONE, EVERYDAY but quite honestly can't and won't apologize for it. So to all quitters out there; Post Early, Post Often, Honor your Post; Repeat.
Thanks again.
Honor....Integrity....Accountability
Congrats on the 101 today cav. damn proud to quit with you.
Well done!
Nice job brother! Just one milestone of many on your journey. Stay the course and you will be delivered to where you want to be. We've talked about this. That clarity will come and your head will be screwed on straight, just be patient brother! Proud of you!
Nice Job!! Congrats
Happy Birthday, Cav! Damn, youÂ’re as old as me!!! 'oh yeah' 'oh yeah' 'band' 'wave' 'wave' 'dance' 'dance' 'party2'
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All,
Thanks for the kind congratulations today. I know I'm nowhere close to being cured. That won't happen until I cease sucking oxygen! I know I've ticked off a few people here by my attitude that posting is for EVERYONE, EVERYDAY but quite honestly can't and won't apologize for it. So to all quitters out there; Post Early, Post Often, Honor your Post; Repeat.
Thanks again.
Honor....Integrity....Accountability
Congrats on the 101 today cav. damn proud to quit with you.
Well done!
Nice job brother! Just one milestone of many on your journey. Stay the course and you will be delivered to where you want to be. We've talked about this. That clarity will come and your head will be screwed on straight, just be patient brother! Proud of you!
Nice Job!! Congrats
Happy Birthday, Cav! Damn, youÂ’re as old as me!!! 'oh yeah' 'oh yeah' 'band' 'wave' 'wave' 'dance' 'dance' 'party2'
Happy birthday to all the AARP members.
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All,
Thanks for the kind congratulations today. I know I'm nowhere close to being cured. That won't happen until I cease sucking oxygen! I know I've ticked off a few people here by my attitude that posting is for EVERYONE, EVERYDAY but quite honestly can't and won't apologize for it. So to all quitters out there; Post Early, Post Often, Honor your Post; Repeat.
Thanks again.
Honor....Integrity....Accountability
Congrats on the 101 today cav. damn proud to quit with you.
Well done!
Nice job brother! Just one milestone of many on your journey. Stay the course and you will be delivered to where you want to be. We've talked about this. That clarity will come and your head will be screwed on straight, just be patient brother! Proud of you!
Nice Job!! Congrats
Happy Birthday, Cav! Damn, youÂ’re as old as me!!! 'oh yeah' 'oh yeah' 'band' 'wave' 'wave' 'dance' 'dance' 'party2'
Happy birthday to all the AARP members.
Happy Birthday Cavman!
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All,
Thanks for the kind congratulations today. I know I'm nowhere close to being cured. That won't happen until I cease sucking oxygen! I know I've ticked off a few people here by my attitude that posting is for EVERYONE, EVERYDAY but quite honestly can't and won't apologize for it. So to all quitters out there; Post Early, Post Often, Honor your Post; Repeat.
Thanks again.
Honor....Integrity....Accountability
Congrats on the 101 today cav. damn proud to quit with you.
Well done!
Nice job brother! Just one milestone of many on your journey. Stay the course and you will be delivered to where you want to be. We've talked about this. That clarity will come and your head will be screwed on straight, just be patient brother! Proud of you!
Nice Job!! Congrats
Happy Birthday, Cav! Damn, youÂ’re as old as me!!! 'oh yeah' 'oh yeah' 'band' 'wave' 'wave' 'dance' 'dance' 'party2'
Happy birthday to all the AARP members.
Happy Birthday Cavman!
Happy b-day cavman. Do we need to chip in for an orthopedic shower seat for the birthday boy?
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Look who made it to 2nd floor! Congrats on 200 Cavman! There was never a doubt! Solid quitter her folks. Keep crushing today and I will be quitting here with you again, all day!
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Look who made it to 2nd floor! Congrats on 200 Cavman! There was never a doubt! Solid quitter her folks. Keep crushing today and I will be quitting here with you again, all day!
Congrats on 2 hundy! Keep kicking nic to the curb!
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Look who made it to 2nd floor! Congrats on 200 Cavman! There was never a doubt! Solid quitter her folks. Keep crushing today and I will be quitting here with you again, all day!
Congrats on 2 hundy! Keep kicking nic to the curb!
Nice 2 bills Cav, congrats buddy!
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Look who made it to 2nd floor! Congrats on 200 Cavman! There was never a doubt! Solid quitter her folks. Keep crushing today and I will be quitting here with you again, all day!
Congrats on 2 hundy! Keep kicking nic to the curb!
Nice 2 bills Cav, congrats buddy!
Thanks all....just another day.... Let's quit again tomorrow!
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Look who made it to 2nd floor! Congrats on 200 Cavman! There was never a doubt! Solid quitter her folks. Keep crushing today and I will be quitting here with you again, all day!
Congrats on 2 hundy! Keep kicking nic to the curb!
Nice 2 bills Cav, congrats buddy!
Thanks all....just another day.... Let's quit again tomorrow!
Am I late to the party?!?! Damn! Congrats brother on the 2nd floor milestone.
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I was posting roll this morning and saw this badass post day 311. Not recalling having seen this intro rise to the top for a well-deserved call out for having reached the 300 mark, I pulled up this intro only to realize that we all missed it. Bullshit on us because if any guy deserves kudos for achieving milestones it's this guy. The ultimate quitter. He's invested, supports others, posts roll every day, preaches roll, and at the end of the day...saves lives.
Cav, congrats on 300 and beyond. Your quit is certainly one that has benefited others beyond your own.
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I was posting roll this morning and saw this badass post day 311. Not recalling having seen this intro rise to the top for a well-deserved call out for having reached the 300 mark, I pulled up this intro only to realize that we all missed it. Bullshit on us because if any guy deserves kudos for achieving milestones it's this guy. The ultimate quitter. He's invested, supports others, posts roll every day, preaches roll, and at the end of the day...saves lives.
Cav, congrats on 300 and beyond. Your quit is certainly one that has benefited others beyond your own.
Shame on me for missing it too. Cav gives it all every day. Couldn't ask for more.
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Congrats on the one year. I am proud to quit with you today. I agree with Done4me. You deserve to be recognized for one year. You have been 100% committed since day one. You have helped me tremendously. Have a good day, and thank you very much for your support.
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Congrats on the one year. I am proud to quit with you today. I agree with Done4me. You deserve to be recognized for one year. You have been 100% committed since day one. You have helped me tremendously. Have a good day, and thank you very much for your support.
Congrats on your quittiversary!! 'clap'
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Congrats on the one year. I am proud to quit with you today. I agree with Done4me. You deserve to be recognized for one year. You have been 100% committed since day one. You have helped me tremendously. Have a good day, and thank you very much for your support.
Congrats on your quittiversary!! 'clap'
Way to be Sir! Outstanding! Congrats 'oh yeah' 'oh yeah'
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Congrats on the one year. I am proud to quit with you today. I agree with Done4me. You deserve to be recognized for one year. You have been 100% committed since day one. You have helped me tremendously. Have a good day, and thank you very much for your support.
Congrats on your quittiversary!! 'clap'
Way to be Sir! Outstanding! Congrats 'oh yeah' 'oh yeah'
Congratulations on the year mark man!
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Congrats on the one year. I am proud to quit with you today. I agree with Done4me. You deserve to be recognized for one year. You have been 100% committed since day one. You have helped me tremendously. Have a good day, and thank you very much for your support.
Congrats on your quittiversary!! 'clap'
Way to be Sir! Outstanding! Congrats 'oh yeah' 'oh yeah'
Congratulations on the year mark man!
Nice job brother! I know, around this time last year you were not "feeling" it but you got through it. You still have lots of awesome milestones ahead so it's yet another step. You've gotten rid of a lot of first times without dip in this past year now its building on top of those first times to see how far you can stack them, then it won't mean a thing, anymore, get it? 'winker'
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I posted this in September '14 Sultans pages....but wanted to make sure everyone who was interested had the chance to read it.... (for whatever it's worth)
Exactly 8,759 hours ago (when I started writing this post), I spit out my last dip of Copenhagen, ending a nearly four decade long sequence of nicotine addiction and snuff abuse. True (for those of you that read my intro), I stopped briefly (about 15 months, from March 1993 to May 1994), only to wind up bumming a dip from a buddy during a fishing trip to Logan Martin, just east of Birmingham. That was a HUGE mistake. I know now what I shoulda known then.....I'm an addict and there's no way in hell I can EVER have 'just one". I finally extracted my head out of my fourth point of contact one year ago this evening. Thanks to the support of the gracious folks here, (and I know I'm going to miss some of them but if I do, please excuse).... Ginet - first quitter to ever text me, JayDubya, L00t, and Evil -- Sultan shepherds in the early days, Cbird -- who wouldn't accept a text, but wanted to actually speak to me on the phone; SandFleasGottaEat -- talked me through some funks even months into my quit, Steakbomb18 -- we had some disagreements early on, but got past it because we both recognized nicotine, not each other, was the enemy; Done4Me -- even though he's from NC, he gets it; my Birmingham quit crew (Gmann -- even IF he roots for Georgia; Duathman -- solid quitter and everyday good guy, plus he's an Auburn grad so you KNOW he's cool; Corn69 -- quit so many damn days ago he's nearly a saint; and FranPro -- only met him once, but he's a great dude as well).... to my Sultan family (damn I wish there was still closer to the 78 of us who crossed the HOF together, but I'm extremely thankful and grateful for the 31 of us who are left).... Medic, DaveKnight, Joe C, Jubs, Jason, Landdon....even though we never met, you're my brothers! And to my fellow quitters in October (Jeeptruck, Bone, SouthPaw, Bam, FMBM), December (Sir Nope, SoxFan, Sajax), January (Jiffy, Jdubs the 2d and the Hardbacks), February (BamaTL, 10harley, Let'sGo, Ross, Rawls, and crew), and finaly September Samurai '15 (Adalbrit, Vision, ODNT, Ashley, BF Adam, MGav17). You don't know it, but you were, and ARE, as much of this quit as me. One year's done, as Gmann says, nothing I can't whup now (except for 29 February :D ). I have enjoyed damn near every minute of my time with my quit family. You guys are truly friggin' awesome! Quit on!
As I told you just the other day, not too proud to admit I love both rainbows AND each and every one of ya.....just not in the way that Medic wants me to!!!
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Congrats on the one year. I am proud to quit with you today. I agree with Done4me. You deserve to be recognized for one year. You have been 100% committed since day one. You have helped me tremendously. Have a good day, and thank you very much for your support.
Congrats on your quittiversary!! 'clap'
Way to be Sir! Outstanding! Congrats 'oh yeah' 'oh yeah'
Congratulations on the year mark man!
Nice job brother! I know, around this time last year you were not "feeling" it but you got through it. You still have lots of awesome milestones ahead so it's yet another step. You've gotten rid of a lot of first times without dip in this past year now its building on top of those first times to see how far you can stack them, then it won't mean a thing, anymore, get it? 'winker'
Congrats on one year and thanks for all you do for the sultans! Looking forward to the next 365.
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I posted this in September '14 Sultans pages....but wanted to make sure everyone who was interested had the chance to read it.... (for whatever it's worth)
Exactly 8,759 hours ago (when I started writing this post), I spit out my last dip of Copenhagen, ending a nearly four decade long sequence of nicotine addiction and snuff abuse. True (for those of you that read my intro), I stopped briefly (about 15 months, from March 1993 to May 1994), only to wind up bumming a dip from a buddy during a fishing trip to Logan Martin, just east of Birmingham. That was a HUGE mistake. I know now what I shoulda known then.....I'm an addict and there's no way in hell I can EVER have 'just one". I finally extracted my head out of my fourth point of contact one year ago this evening. Thanks to the support of the gracious folks here, (and I know I'm going to miss some of them but if I do, please excuse).... Ginet - first quitter to ever text me, JayDubya, L00t, and Evil -- Sultan shepherds in the early days, Cbird -- who wouldn't accept a text, but wanted to actually speak to me on the phone; SandFleasGottaEat -- talked me through some funks even months into my quit, Steakbomb18 -- we had some disagreements early on, but got past it because we both recognized nicotine, not each other, was the enemy; Done4Me -- even though he's from NC, he gets it; my Birmingham quit crew (Gmann -- even IF he roots for Georgia; Duathman -- solid quitter and everyday good guy, plus he's an Auburn grad so you KNOW he's cool; Corn69 -- quit so many damn days ago he's nearly a saint; and FranPro -- only met him once, but he's a great dude as well).... to my Sultan family (damn I wish there was still closer to the 78 of us who crossed the HOF together, but I'm extremely thankful and grateful for the 31 of us who are left).... Medic, DaveKnight, Joe C, Jubs, Jason, Landdon....even though we never met, you're my brothers! And to my fellow quitters in October (Jeeptruck, Bone, SouthPaw, Bam, FMBM), December (Sir Nope, SoxFan, Sajax), January (Jiffy, Jdubs the 2d and the Hardbacks), February (BamaTL, 10harley, Let'sGo, Ross, Rawls, and crew), and finaly September Samurai '15 (Adalbrit, Vision, ODNT, Ashley, BF Adam, MGav17). You don't know it, but you were, and ARE, as much of this quit as me. One year's done, as Gmann says, nothing I can't whup now (except for 29 February :D ). I have enjoyed damn near every minute of my time with my quit family. You guys are truly friggin' awesome! Quit on!
As I told you just the other day, not too proud to admit I love both rainbows AND each and every one of ya.....just not in the way that Medic wants me to!!!
This just brought a tear to my eye. This right here is Bushido, code of the KTC Samurai.
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Congrats on the one year. I am proud to quit with you today. I agree with Done4me. You deserve to be recognized for one year. You have been 100% committed since day one. You have helped me tremendously. Have a good day, and thank you very much for your support.
Congrats on your quittiversary!! 'clap'
Way to be Sir! Outstanding! Congrats 'oh yeah' 'oh yeah'
Congratulations on the year mark man!
Nice job brother! I know, around this time last year you were not "feeling" it but you got through it. You still have lots of awesome milestones ahead so it's yet another step. You've gotten rid of a lot of first times without dip in this past year now its building on top of those first times to see how far you can stack them, then it won't mean a thing, anymore, get it? 'winker'
Congrats on one year and thanks for all you do for the sultans! Looking forward to the next 365.
Congrats here as well Cav. You've kept yourself clean and helped to keep Sept 14 quit and tidy as well. It ain't just about you and you know that well. Quit on!
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Congrats on the one year. I am proud to quit with you today. I agree with Done4me. You deserve to be recognized for one year. You have been 100% committed since day one. You have helped me tremendously. Have a good day, and thank you very much for your support.
Congrats on your quittiversary!! 'clap'
Way to be Sir! Outstanding! Congrats 'oh yeah' 'oh yeah'
Congratulations on the year mark man!
Nice job brother! I know, around this time last year you were not "feeling" it but you got through it. You still have lots of awesome milestones ahead so it's yet another step. You've gotten rid of a lot of first times without dip in this past year now its building on top of those first times to see how far you can stack them, then it won't mean a thing, anymore, get it? 'winker'
Congrats on one year and thanks for all you do for the sultans! Looking forward to the next 365.
Congrats here as well Cav. You've kept yourself clean and helped to keep Sept 14 quit and tidy as well. It ain't just about you and you know that well. Quit on!
Albeit a day late, congrats Cav on the round trip. A year ago I bet you never imagined that quitting nicotine would yield what you have gained, that being a huge castle of quit and following. Congratulations.
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Congrats on 400 days quit my fellow Sultan. Well done! Keep helping those that need it...you have a gift for it.
Old Es
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Congrats on 400 days quit my fellow Sultan. Well done! Keep helping those that need it...you have a gift for it.
Old Es
Nice work cav!
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500 big ones!! Nice work Cavman.
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500 big ones!! Nice work Cavman.
Awesome olé boy! Keep bringing it! And remember this one : what do you call a good looking woman at auburn game? A visitor. Quit on and I'm with you, I stick with my team through the good and bad! Goodluck this weekend!
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500 big ones!! Nice work Cavman.
Awesome olé boy! Keep bringing it! And remember this one : what do you call a good looking woman at auburn game? A visitor. Quit on and I'm with you, I stick with my team through the good and bad! Goodluck this weekend!
Congratulations on the 5th floor and thank you for your support in September 15!!
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500 big ones!! Nice work Cavman.
Awesome olé boy! Keep bringing it! And remember this one : what do you call a good looking woman at auburn game? A visitor. Quit on and I'm with you, I stick with my team through the good and bad! Goodluck this weekend!
Congratulations on the 5th floor and thank you for your support in September 15!!
Congrats on 500 Cavman! KTC is much stronger with you here!
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500 big ones!! Nice work Cavman.
Awesome olé boy! Keep bringing it! And remember this one : what do you call a good looking woman at auburn game? A visitor. Quit on and I'm with you, I stick with my team through the good and bad! Goodluck this weekend!
Congratulations on the 5th floor and thank you for your support in September 15!!
Congrats on 500 Cavman! KTC is much stronger with you here!
congrats Brother!
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500 big ones!! Nice work Cavman.
Awesome olé boy! Keep bringing it! And remember this one : what do you call a good looking woman at auburn game? A visitor. Quit on and I'm with you, I stick with my team through the good and bad! Goodluck this weekend!
Congratulations on the 5th floor and thank you for your support in September 15!!
Congrats on 500 Cavman! KTC is much stronger with you here!
congrats Brother!
I'm always late to the party!!!! Joel, nice job brother! I think you had doubts but you never looked back and you drank the Kool-Aid and bought into the one day at a time. That was 500+ days of making a good choice one day at a time. Congrats!
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500 big ones!! Nice work Cavman.
Awesome olé boy! Keep bringing it! And remember this one : what do you call a good looking woman at auburn game? A visitor. Quit on and I'm with you, I stick with my team through the good and bad! Goodluck this weekend!
Congratulations on the 5th floor and thank you for your support in September 15!!
Congrats on 500 Cavman! KTC is much stronger with you here!
congrats Brother!
I'm always late to the party!!!! Joel, nice job brother! I think you had doubts but you never looked back and you drank the Kool-Aid and bought into the one day at a time. That was 500+ days of making a good choice one day at a time. Congrats!
Proud to be a month ahead of you Cav - let's keep it that way. I'm in if you are...
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Happy dip free birthday-!
I quit with you.
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Happy dip free birthday-!
I quit with you.
Thanks Ma'am! Appreciate the birthday wishes. Keep on quittin like a lady! You, Ms. Ginet, Ash, BAM, and M5Shelly, and the Sultans very own Ms Jenahen are all extremely inspirational quitters and this place is far better for having all of you here!!
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Congrats on your 2 years!!
Thanks for always supporting my group, myself, the lady quitters, and everyone you support on here, its amazing. You know how to pay it forward.
Your one Badass quit machine .
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Congrats on your 2 years!!
Thanks for always supporting my group, myself, the lady quitters, and everyone you support on here, its amazing. You know how to pay it forward.
Your one Badass quit machine .
Congrats Cav Man!!!
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Congrats on your 2 years!!
Thanks for always supporting my group, myself, the lady quitters, and everyone you support on here, its amazing. You know how to pay it forward.
Your one Badass quit machine .
Congrats Cav Man!!!
Many a person are better quitters based on what you've brought to the table these past 2 years. Congratulations on hitting another milestone.
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Congrats on your 2 years!!
Thanks for always supporting my group, myself, the lady quitters, and everyone you support on here, its amazing. You know how to pay it forward.
Your one Badass quit machine .
Congrats Cav Man!!!
Many a person are better quitters based on what you've brought to the table these past 2 years. Congratulations on hitting another milestone.
Congrats on 2 years man!!
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Congrats on your 2 years!!
Thanks for always supporting my group, myself, the lady quitters, and everyone you support on here, its amazing. You know how to pay it forward.
Your one Badass quit machine .
Congrats Cav Man!!!
Many a person are better quitters based on what you've brought to the table these past 2 years. Congratulations on hitting another milestone.
Congrats on 2 years man!!
Congratulations on 2 year's my brother and friend!
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Congrats on your 2 years!!
Thanks for always supporting my group, myself, the lady quitters, and everyone you support on here, its amazing. You know how to pay it forward.
Your one Badass quit machine .
Congrats Cav Man!!!
Many a person are better quitters based on what you've brought to the table these past 2 years. Congratulations on hitting another milestone.
Congrats on 2 years man!!
Congratulations on 2 year's my brother and friend!
2 years damn time flies bye. You helped me with my quit as I hoped to help you early on in yours. Was it a day 10 meetup with Joel? Anytime brother I am here for you. Congrats
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Congrats on your 2 years!!
Thanks for always supporting my group, myself, the lady quitters, and everyone you support on here, its amazing. You know how to pay it forward.
Your one Badass quit machine .
Congrats Cav Man!!!
Many a person are better quitters based on what you've brought to the table these past 2 years. Congratulations on hitting another milestone.
Congrats on 2 years man!!
Congratulations on 2 year's my brother and friend!
2 years damn time flies bye. You helped me with my quit as I hoped to help you early on in yours. Was it a day 10 meetup with Joel? Anytime brother I am here for you. Congrats
Congrats on 2 years and your continued support in September 15!
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Congrats on your 2 years!!
Thanks for always supporting my group, myself, the lady quitters, and everyone you support on here, its amazing. You know how to pay it forward.
Your one Badass quit machine .
Congrats Cav Man!!!
Many a person are better quitters based on what you've brought to the table these past 2 years. Congratulations on hitting another milestone.
Congrats on 2 years man!!
Congratulations on 2 year's my brother and friend!
2 years damn time flies bye. You helped me with my quit as I hoped to help you early on in yours. Was it a day 10 meetup with Joel? Anytime brother I am here for you. Congrats
Congrats on 2 years and your continued support in September 15!
Congrats Cav!
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Congrats on your 2 years!!
Thanks for always supporting my group, myself, the lady quitters, and everyone you support on here, its amazing. You know how to pay it forward.
Your one Badass quit machine .
Congrats Cav Man!!!
Many a person are better quitters based on what you've brought to the table these past 2 years. Congratulations on hitting another milestone.
Congrats on 2 years man!!
Congratulations on 2 year's my brother and friend!
2 years damn time flies bye. You helped me with my quit as I hoped to help you early on in yours. Was it a day 10 meetup with Joel? Anytime brother I am here for you. Congrats
Congrats on 2 years and your continued support in September 15!
Congrats Cav!
Thanks all.... I truly appreciate the congratulatory notes. I came to KTC wanting to quit, not knowing quite what to expect, but definitely with a chip on my shoulder. I am amazed at the amount of support and accountability this place generates, but am even more amazed by the friendships that develop concurrently. Facebook has NOTHING on KTC in terms of social networking. Proud to be associated with all of you fine folks.
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Thanks all.... I truly appreciate the congratulatory notes. I came to KTC wanting to quit, not knowing quite what to expect, but definitely with a chip on my shoulder. I am amazed at the amount of support and accountability this place generates, but am even more amazed by the friendships that develop concurrently. Facebook has NOTHING on KTC in terms of social networking. Proud to be associated with all of you fine folks.
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This is my day 1. Stumbled onto this post and feel a huge relief reading about your success. I want to be where you are now. Congratulations and thank you for sharing.
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Cavman, you are always around. Your presence is powerful. Live the light you shed on our quits!
It makes a huge difference for mine, thank you!
Congrats on 800!!
LBP.CAB.
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Cavman, you are always around. Your presence is powerful. Live the light you shed on our quits!
It makes a huge difference for mine, thank you!
Congrats on 800!!
LBP.CAB.
Congrats on 800 days brother. You're a great example of how to quit and stay involved in KTC. Thanks for being a shining light. I quit with you today!
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Congrats on 9th floor Cavman!!
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Congrats on 9th floor Cavman!!
Congratulations on the 9th you badass. Thanks for being with me everyday!
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Congrats on 9th floor Cavman!!
Congratulations on the 9th you badass. Thanks for being with me everyday!
Dats alotta floors dude!
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Congrats on 9th floor Cavman!!
Congratulations on the 9th you badass. Thanks for being with me everyday!
Dats alotta floors dude!
Congrats on your 9th floor Cavman! Way to kick some ass and give back here!
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Congrats on 9th floor Cavman!!
Congratulations on the 9th you badass. Thanks for being with me everyday!
Dats alotta floors dude!
Congrats on your 9th floor Cavman! Way to kick some ass and give back here!
Congrats on 900 cavman !!
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Congrats on 9th floor Cavman!!
Congratulations on the 9th you badass. Thanks for being with me everyday!
Dats alotta floors dude!
Congrats on your 9th floor Cavman! Way to kick some ass and give back here!
Congrats on 900 cavman !!
Congrats on 9th floor !!! Damn fine job. And it just keeps getting better.
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Congrats on 9th floor Cavman!!
Congratulations on the 9th you badass. Thanks for being with me everyday!
Dats alotta floors dude!
Congrats on your 9th floor Cavman! Way to kick some ass and give back here!
Congrats on 900 cavman !!
Congrats on 9th floor !!! Damn fine job. And it just keeps getting better.
9th floor already! Badass quits fly by because the seem like they're on cruise control. You're anything but on cruise control...just full throttle every damn day.
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Congrats on 9th floor Cavman!!
Congratulations on the 9th you badass. Thanks for being with me everyday!
Dats alotta floors dude!
Congrats on your 9th floor Cavman! Way to kick some ass and give back here!
Congrats on 900 cavman !!
Congrats on 9th floor !!! Damn fine job. And it just keeps getting better.
9th floor already! Badass quits fly by because the seem like they're on cruise control. You're anything but on cruise control...just full throttle every damn day.
Congrats brother! Thanks for all the support
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To mark what to me is a pretty significant occasion (although I fully recognize it may not hold any meaning at all to others :D ).....
Good morning Sultans,
Not sure why I noticed, but earlier this morning during the round of semi-weekly postings (I have time now as I'm still on break, but during the work week have to limit my postings severely as it just takes entirely too long to cover all the groups nowadays!!)....but I digress. As I was posting support for our brothers and sister in October '14 (gotta love them TITANS!), I noticed my post count was getting really close to a milestone. As I write this, some 933 days removed from June the tenth, 2014 (and by my way of counting 932 days into this quit), this is the NINE-THOUSANDTH, NINE-HUNDREDTH, and NINETY-NINTH post I have entered into these forum pages.
The very next one will be 10,000. //// EDIT: THIS is Post #10,000.... ////
That's a whole lot of time devoted to this quit, but a whole lot less time (and money) than I wasted on that insidious weed in a can. I'm thinking the best way I can "spend" that post is to copy this one and place it in my introduction, as a reminder of how stupid I once was, and how effective this community is. It is truly amazing (once you get past the sophomoric humor and the overall nastiness that some folks bring to these halls) how people can band together to jointly fight an addiction that is nearly impossible to break solo.
I am glad I found this place, and glad for my Sultan family. //// EDIT: I would like to modify and expand this to include not only my Sultans (like my immediate family), but also vets in the F.O.C.K.E.R.S (Sep '05), the GlassHousers (Apr' 12), the resolute Bastards (Apr '14), the madhouse of Project Mayhem (May '14), the DD Destroyers (July '14) and the "newer" groups my TITANS (Oct '14), the RANT (Dec '14), my beloved Hardbacks (Jan '15), my Friends the Fog Fighters of February (Feb '15), them Silverbuttses (Apr '15), the Fn' Misfits (May '15), the Jackals (Jul '15), my Sammies (Samurai, Sep '15), the ZBNski Nation (Nov '15), the fools of Apr '16, the Maysters of the Universe (May '16), the Phalanx (Jul '16), those Trauma=Tizers (Aug '16), my awesome STD's (Sep '16), the Raging Dumpster Fire (Oct '16), the Swarm (Nov '16), the Nameless Ninjas (Dec '16), the League (Jan '17), the Fellowship (Feb '17), the Mavericks (Mar '17), and the yet-to-be-named Hall of Famers of April, 17. This list represents so much more than just a group listing of months. This is a continuum of support stretching back into history and into the future....Each of these has at least one quitter I have come to know and who has helped in some way to get me to this point. And that's what this place is all about....Brother/Sister-hood, Accountability, Honor, Integrity, and QUIT!!! Much love and respect to each of you. ////
May you and your families and friends be blessed through experiences of peace, joy, and prosperity in the New Year.
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Outstanding. Very well said and I couldn't agree more. Accountability starts with supporting others and 10K post says you are doing that. Nice work.
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Outstanding. Very well said and I couldn't agree more. Accountability starts with supporting others and 10K post says you are doing that. Nice work.
And you still have time for little ole me! Thanks for all you do (which is pretty good for an auburn fan)
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To mark what to me is a pretty significant occasion (although I fully recognize it may not hold any meaning at all to others :D ).....
Good morning Sultans,
Not sure why I noticed, but earlier this morning during the round of semi-weekly postings (I have time now as I'm still on break, but during the work week have to limit my postings severely as it just takes entirely too long to cover all the groups nowadays!!)....but I digress. As I was posting support for our brothers and sister in October '14 (gotta love them TITANS!), I noticed my post count was getting really close to a milestone. As I write this, some 933 days removed from June the tenth, 2014 (and by my way of counting 932 days into this quit), this is the NINE-THOUSANDTH, NINE-HUNDREDTH, and NINETY-NINTH post I have entered into these forum pages.
The very next one will be 10,000. //// EDIT: THIS is Post #10,000.... ////
That's a whole lot of time devoted to this quit, but a whole lot less time (and money) than I wasted on that insidious weed in a can. I'm thinking the best way I can "spend" that post is to copy this one and place it in my introduction, as a reminder of how stupid I once was, and how effective this community is. It is truly amazing (once you get past the sophomoric humor and the overall nastiness that some folks bring to these halls) how people can band together to jointly fight an addiction that is nearly impossible to break solo.
I am glad I found this place, and glad for my Sultan family. //// EDIT: I would like to modify and expand this to include not only my Sultans (like my immediate family), but also vets in the F.O.C.K.E.R.S (Sep '05), the GlassHousers (Apr' 12), the resolute Bastards (Apr '14), the madhouse of Project Mayhem (May '14), the DD Destroyers (July '14) and the "newer" groups my TITANS (Oct '14), the RANT (Dec '14), my beloved Hardbacks (Jan '15), my Friends the Fog Fighters of February (Feb '15), them Silverbuttses (Apr '15), the Fn' Misfits (May '15), the Jackals (Jul '15), my Sammies (Samurai, Sep '15), the ZBNski Nation (Nov '15), the fools of Apr '16, the Maysters of the Universe (May '16), the Phalanx (Jul '16), those Trauma=Tizers (Aug '16), my awesome STD's (Sep '16), the Raging Dumpster Fire (Oct '16), the Swarm (Nov '16), the Nameless Ninjas (Dec '16), the League (Jan '17), the Fellowship (Feb '17), the Mavericks (Mar '17), and the yet-to-be-named Hall of Famers of April, 17. This list represents so much more than just a group listing of months. This is a continuum of support stretching back into history and into the future....Each of these has at least one quitter I have come to know and who has helped in some way to get me to this point. And that's what this place is all about....Brother/Sister-hood, Accountability, Honor, Integrity, and QUIT!!! Much love and respect to each of you. ////
May you and your families and friends be blessed through experiences of peace, joy, and prosperity in the New Year.
Cav, you've been rocking that quit for so long- great job, great support you give others, and still bringin the energy ... love it! soak in the true accomplishment!
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To mark what to me is a pretty significant occasion (although I fully recognize it may not hold any meaning at all to others :D ).....
Good morning Sultans,
Not sure why I noticed, but earlier this morning during the round of semi-weekly postings (I have time now as I'm still on break, but during the work week have to limit my postings severely as it just takes entirely too long to cover all the groups nowadays!!)....but I digress. As I was posting support for our brothers and sister in October '14 (gotta love them TITANS!), I noticed my post count was getting really close to a milestone. As I write this, some 933 days removed from June the tenth, 2014 (and by my way of counting 932 days into this quit), this is the NINE-THOUSANDTH, NINE-HUNDREDTH, and NINETY-NINTH post I have entered into these forum pages.
The very next one will be 10,000. //// EDIT: THIS is Post #10,000.... ////
That's a whole lot of time devoted to this quit, but a whole lot less time (and money) than I wasted on that insidious weed in a can. I'm thinking the best way I can "spend" that post is to copy this one and place it in my introduction, as a reminder of how stupid I once was, and how effective this community is. It is truly amazing (once you get past the sophomoric humor and the overall nastiness that some folks bring to these halls) how people can band together to jointly fight an addiction that is nearly impossible to break solo.
I am glad I found this place, and glad for my Sultan family. //// EDIT: I would like to modify and expand this to include not only my Sultans (like my immediate family), but also vets in the F.O.C.K.E.R.S (Sep '05), the GlassHousers (Apr' 12), the resolute Bastards (Apr '14), the madhouse of Project Mayhem (May '14), the DD Destroyers (July '14) and the "newer" groups my TITANS (Oct '14), the RANT (Dec '14), my beloved Hardbacks (Jan '15), my Friends the Fog Fighters of February (Feb '15), them Silverbuttses (Apr '15), the Fn' Misfits (May '15), the Jackals (Jul '15), my Sammies (Samurai, Sep '15), the ZBNski Nation (Nov '15), the fools of Apr '16, the Maysters of the Universe (May '16), the Phalanx (Jul '16), those Trauma=Tizers (Aug '16), my awesome STD's (Sep '16), the Raging Dumpster Fire (Oct '16), the Swarm (Nov '16), the Nameless Ninjas (Dec '16), the League (Jan '17), the Fellowship (Feb '17), the Mavericks (Mar '17), and the yet-to-be-named Hall of Famers of April, 17. This list represents so much more than just a group listing of months. This is a continuum of support stretching back into history and into the future....Each of these has at least one quitter I have come to know and who has helped in some way to get me to this point. And that's what this place is all about....Brother/Sister-hood, Accountability, Honor, Integrity, and QUIT!!! Much love and respect to each of you. ////
May you and your families and friends be blessed through experiences of peace, joy, and prosperity in the New Year.
Cav, you've been rocking that quit for so long- great job, great support you give others, and still bringin the energy ... love it! soak in the true accomplishment!
Sweet stuff Cav! You and a handful of other guys are ones i look for and look forward to seeing on here every day posting. Thanks for paying it forward.
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To mark what to me is a pretty significant occasion (although I fully recognize it may not hold any meaning at all to others :D ).....
Good morning Sultans,
Not sure why I noticed, but earlier this morning during the round of semi-weekly postings (I have time now as I'm still on break, but during the work week have to limit my postings severely as it just takes entirely too long to cover all the groups nowadays!!)....but I digress. As I was posting support for our brothers and sister in October '14 (gotta love them TITANS!), I noticed my post count was getting really close to a milestone. As I write this, some 933 days removed from June the tenth, 2014 (and by my way of counting 932 days into this quit), this is the NINE-THOUSANDTH, NINE-HUNDREDTH, and NINETY-NINTH post I have entered into these forum pages.
The very next one will be 10,000. //// EDIT: THIS is Post #10,000.... ////
That's a whole lot of time devoted to this quit, but a whole lot less time (and money) than I wasted on that insidious weed in a can. I'm thinking the best way I can "spend" that post is to copy this one and place it in my introduction, as a reminder of how stupid I once was, and how effective this community is. It is truly amazing (once you get past the sophomoric humor and the overall nastiness that some folks bring to these halls) how people can band together to jointly fight an addiction that is nearly impossible to break solo.
I am glad I found this place, and glad for my Sultan family. //// EDIT: I would like to modify and expand this to include not only my Sultans (like my immediate family), but also vets in the F.O.C.K.E.R.S (Sep '05), the GlassHousers (Apr' 12), the resolute Bastards (Apr '14), the madhouse of Project Mayhem (May '14), the DD Destroyers (July '14) and the "newer" groups my TITANS (Oct '14), the RANT (Dec '14), my beloved Hardbacks (Jan '15), my Friends the Fog Fighters of February (Feb '15), them Silverbuttses (Apr '15), the Fn' Misfits (May '15), the Jackals (Jul '15), my Sammies (Samurai, Sep '15), the ZBNski Nation (Nov '15), the fools of Apr '16, the Maysters of the Universe (May '16), the Phalanx (Jul '16), those Trauma=Tizers (Aug '16), my awesome STD's (Sep '16), the Raging Dumpster Fire (Oct '16), the Swarm (Nov '16), the Nameless Ninjas (Dec '16), the League (Jan '17), the Fellowship (Feb '17), the Mavericks (Mar '17), and the yet-to-be-named Hall of Famers of April, 17. This list represents so much more than just a group listing of months. This is a continuum of support stretching back into history and into the future....Each of these has at least one quitter I have come to know and who has helped in some way to get me to this point. And that's what this place is all about....Brother/Sister-hood, Accountability, Honor, Integrity, and QUIT!!! Much love and respect to each of you. ////
May you and your families and friends be blessed through experiences of peace, joy, and prosperity in the New Year.
Cav, you've been rocking that quit for so long- great job, great support you give others, and still bringin the energy ... love it! soak in the true accomplishment!
Sweet stuff Cav! You and a handful of other guys are ones i look for and look forward to seeing on here every day posting. Thanks for paying it forward.
The March 14' Iron Men also got your back brother. Count me in that bunch - many of us are better quitters because of what you do here.
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To mark what to me is a pretty significant occasion (although I fully recognize it may not hold any meaning at all to others :D ).....
Good morning Sultans,
Not sure why I noticed, but earlier this morning during the round of semi-weekly postings (I have time now as I'm still on break, but during the work week have to limit my postings severely as it just takes entirely too long to cover all the groups nowadays!!)....but I digress. As I was posting support for our brothers and sister in October '14 (gotta love them TITANS!), I noticed my post count was getting really close to a milestone. As I write this, some 933 days removed from June the tenth, 2014 (and by my way of counting 932 days into this quit), this is the NINE-THOUSANDTH, NINE-HUNDREDTH, and NINETY-NINTH post I have entered into these forum pages.
The very next one will be 10,000. //// EDIT: THIS is Post #10,000.... ////
That's a whole lot of time devoted to this quit, but a whole lot less time (and money) than I wasted on that insidious weed in a can. I'm thinking the best way I can "spend" that post is to copy this one and place it in my introduction, as a reminder of how stupid I once was, and how effective this community is. It is truly amazing (once you get past the sophomoric humor and the overall nastiness that some folks bring to these halls) how people can band together to jointly fight an addiction that is nearly impossible to break solo.
I am glad I found this place, and glad for my Sultan family. //// EDIT: I would like to modify and expand this to include not only my Sultans (like my immediate family), but also vets in the F.O.C.K.E.R.S (Sep '05), the GlassHousers (Apr' 12), the resolute Bastards (Apr '14), the madhouse of Project Mayhem (May '14), the DD Destroyers (July '14) and the "newer" groups my TITANS (Oct '14), the RANT (Dec '14), my beloved Hardbacks (Jan '15), my Friends the Fog Fighters of February (Feb '15), them Silverbuttses (Apr '15), the Fn' Misfits (May '15), the Jackals (Jul '15), my Sammies (Samurai, Sep '15), the ZBNski Nation (Nov '15), the fools of Apr '16, the Maysters of the Universe (May '16), the Phalanx (Jul '16), those Trauma=Tizers (Aug '16), my awesome STD's (Sep '16), the Raging Dumpster Fire (Oct '16), the Swarm (Nov '16), the Nameless Ninjas (Dec '16), the League (Jan '17), the Fellowship (Feb '17), the Mavericks (Mar '17), and the yet-to-be-named Hall of Famers of April, 17. This list represents so much more than just a group listing of months. This is a continuum of support stretching back into history and into the future....Each of these has at least one quitter I have come to know and who has helped in some way to get me to this point. And that's what this place is all about....Brother/Sister-hood, Accountability, Honor, Integrity, and QUIT!!! Much love and respect to each of you. ////
May you and your families and friends be blessed through experiences of peace, joy, and prosperity in the New Year.
Cav, you've been rocking that quit for so long- great job, great support you give others, and still bringin the energy ... love it! soak in the true accomplishment!
Sweet stuff Cav! You and a handful of other guys are ones i look for and look forward to seeing on here every day posting. Thanks for paying it forward.
The March 14' Iron Men also got your back brother. Count me in that bunch - many of us are better quitters because of what you do here.
Cavman always steady and constant. I know that you are a constant force for many and myself. Looking forward to many more milestone with you brother.
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The March 14' Iron Men also got your back brother. Count me in that bunch - many of us are better quitters because of what you do here.
Thanks Andy....Man, I had a feeling if I started naming groups I'd forget at least one....my sincere apologies. You've been in my corner for a very long time and I appreciate it!
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To mark what to me is a pretty significant occasion (although I fully recognize it may not hold any meaning at all to others :D ).....
Good morning Sultans,
Not sure why I noticed, but earlier this morning during the round of semi-weekly postings (I have time now as I'm still on break, but during the work week have to limit my postings severely as it just takes entirely too long to cover all the groups nowadays!!)....but I digress. As I was posting support for our brothers and sister in October '14 (gotta love them TITANS!), I noticed my post count was getting really close to a milestone. As I write this, some 933 days removed from June the tenth, 2014 (and by my way of counting 932 days into this quit), this is the NINE-THOUSANDTH, NINE-HUNDREDTH, and NINETY-NINTH post I have entered into these forum pages.
The very next one will be 10,000. //// EDIT: THIS is Post #10,000.... ////
That's a whole lot of time devoted to this quit, but a whole lot less time (and money) than I wasted on that insidious weed in a can. I'm thinking the best way I can "spend" that post is to copy this one and place it in my introduction, as a reminder of how stupid I once was, and how effective this community is. It is truly amazing (once you get past the sophomoric humor and the overall nastiness that some folks bring to these halls) how people can band together to jointly fight an addiction that is nearly impossible to break solo.
I am glad I found this place, and glad for my Sultan family. //// EDIT: I would like to modify and expand this to include not only my Sultans (like my immediate family), but also vets in the F.O.C.K.E.R.S (Sep '05), the GlassHousers (Apr' 12), the resolute Bastards (Apr '14), the madhouse of Project Mayhem (May '14), the DD Destroyers (July '14) and the "newer" groups my TITANS (Oct '14), the RANT (Dec '14), my beloved Hardbacks (Jan '15), my Friends the Fog Fighters of February (Feb '15), them Silverbuttses (Apr '15), the Fn' Misfits (May '15), the Jackals (Jul '15), my Sammies (Samurai, Sep '15), the ZBNski Nation (Nov '15), the fools of Apr '16, the Maysters of the Universe (May '16), the Phalanx (Jul '16), those Trauma=Tizers (Aug '16), my awesome STD's (Sep '16), the Raging Dumpster Fire (Oct '16), the Swarm (Nov '16), the Nameless Ninjas (Dec '16), the League (Jan '17), the Fellowship (Feb '17), the Mavericks (Mar '17), and the yet-to-be-named Hall of Famers of April, 17. This list represents so much more than just a group listing of months. This is a continuum of support stretching back into history and into the future....Each of these has at least one quitter I have come to know and who has helped in some way to get me to this point. And that's what this place is all about....Brother/Sister-hood, Accountability, Honor, Integrity, and QUIT!!! Much love and respect to each of you. ////
May you and your families and friends be blessed through experiences of peace, joy, and prosperity in the New Year.
Cav, you've been rocking that quit for so long- great job, great support you give others, and still bringin the energy ... love it! soak in the true accomplishment!
Sweet stuff Cav! You and a handful of other guys are ones i look for and look forward to seeing on here every day posting. Thanks for paying it forward.
The March 14' Iron Men also got your back brother. Count me in that bunch - many of us are better quitters because of what you do here.
Cavman always steady and constant. I know that you are a constant force for many and myself. Looking forward to many more milestone with you brother.
Well said
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To mark what to me is a pretty significant occasion (although I fully recognize it may not hold any meaning at all to others :D ).....
Good morning Sultans,
Not sure why I noticed, but earlier this morning during the round of semi-weekly postings (I have time now as I'm still on break, but during the work week have to limit my postings severely as it just takes entirely too long to cover all the groups nowadays!!)....but I digress. As I was posting support for our brothers and sister in October '14 (gotta love them TITANS!), I noticed my post count was getting really close to a milestone. As I write this, some 933 days removed from June the tenth, 2014 (and by my way of counting 932 days into this quit), this is the NINE-THOUSANDTH, NINE-HUNDREDTH, and NINETY-NINTH post I have entered into these forum pages.
The very next one will be 10,000. //// EDIT: THIS is Post #10,000.... ////
That's a whole lot of time devoted to this quit, but a whole lot less time (and money) than I wasted on that insidious weed in a can. I'm thinking the best way I can "spend" that post is to copy this one and place it in my introduction, as a reminder of how stupid I once was, and how effective this community is. It is truly amazing (once you get past the sophomoric humor and the overall nastiness that some folks bring to these halls) how people can band together to jointly fight an addiction that is nearly impossible to break solo.
I am glad I found this place, and glad for my Sultan family. //// EDIT: I would like to modify and expand this to include not only my Sultans (like my immediate family), but also vets in the F.O.C.K.E.R.S (Sep '05), the GlassHousers (Apr' 12), the resolute Bastards (Apr '14), the madhouse of Project Mayhem (May '14), the DD Destroyers (July '14) and the "newer" groups my TITANS (Oct '14), the RANT (Dec '14), my beloved Hardbacks (Jan '15), my Friends the Fog Fighters of February (Feb '15), them Silverbuttses (Apr '15), the Fn' Misfits (May '15), the Jackals (Jul '15), my Sammies (Samurai, Sep '15), the ZBNski Nation (Nov '15), the fools of Apr '16, the Maysters of the Universe (May '16), the Phalanx (Jul '16), those Trauma=Tizers (Aug '16), my awesome STD's (Sep '16), the Raging Dumpster Fire (Oct '16), the Swarm (Nov '16), the Nameless Ninjas (Dec '16), the League (Jan '17), the Fellowship (Feb '17), the Mavericks (Mar '17), and the yet-to-be-named Hall of Famers of April, 17. This list represents so much more than just a group listing of months. This is a continuum of support stretching back into history and into the future....Each of these has at least one quitter I have come to know and who has helped in some way to get me to this point. And that's what this place is all about....Brother/Sister-hood, Accountability, Honor, Integrity, and QUIT!!! Much love and respect to each of you. ////
May you and your families and friends be blessed through experiences of peace, joy, and prosperity in the New Year.
Cav, you've been rocking that quit for so long- great job, great support you give others, and still bringin the energy ... love it! soak in the true accomplishment!
Sweet stuff Cav! You and a handful of other guys are ones i look for and look forward to seeing on here every day posting. Thanks for paying it forward.
The March 14' Iron Men also got your back brother. Count me in that bunch - many of us are better quitters because of what you do here.
Cavman always steady and constant. I know that you are a constant force for many and myself. Looking forward to many more milestone with you brother.
Well said
Glad to have met you on what? Day 9? Either way you have meant a lot in my quit as well. Thanks for the support and keep passing on your knowledge of NHNNNIML to those newbies.
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To mark what to me is a pretty significant occasion (although I fully recognize it may not hold any meaning at all to others :D ).....
Good morning Sultans,
Not sure why I noticed, but earlier this morning during the round of semi-weekly postings (I have time now as I'm still on break, but during the work week have to limit my postings severely as it just takes entirely too long to cover all the groups nowadays!!)....but I digress. As I was posting support for our brothers and sister in October '14 (gotta love them TITANS!), I noticed my post count was getting really close to a milestone. As I write this, some 933 days removed from June the tenth, 2014 (and by my way of counting 932 days into this quit), this is the NINE-THOUSANDTH, NINE-HUNDREDTH, and NINETY-NINTH post I have entered into these forum pages.
The very next one will be 10,000. //// EDIT: THIS is Post #10,000.... ////
That's a whole lot of time devoted to this quit, but a whole lot less time (and money) than I wasted on that insidious weed in a can. I'm thinking the best way I can "spend" that post is to copy this one and place it in my introduction, as a reminder of how stupid I once was, and how effective this community is. It is truly amazing (once you get past the sophomoric humor and the overall nastiness that some folks bring to these halls) how people can band together to jointly fight an addiction that is nearly impossible to break solo.
I am glad I found this place, and glad for my Sultan family. //// EDIT: I would like to modify and expand this to include not only my Sultans (like my immediate family), but also vets in the F.O.C.K.E.R.S (Sep '05), the GlassHousers (Apr' 12), the resolute Bastards (Apr '14), the madhouse of Project Mayhem (May '14), the DD Destroyers (July '14) and the "newer" groups my TITANS (Oct '14), the RANT (Dec '14), my beloved Hardbacks (Jan '15), my Friends the Fog Fighters of February (Feb '15), them Silverbuttses (Apr '15), the Fn' Misfits (May '15), the Jackals (Jul '15), my Sammies (Samurai, Sep '15), the ZBNski Nation (Nov '15), the fools of Apr '16, the Maysters of the Universe (May '16), the Phalanx (Jul '16), those Trauma=Tizers (Aug '16), my awesome STD's (Sep '16), the Raging Dumpster Fire (Oct '16), the Swarm (Nov '16), the Nameless Ninjas (Dec '16), the League (Jan '17), the Fellowship (Feb '17), the Mavericks (Mar '17), and the yet-to-be-named Hall of Famers of April, 17. This list represents so much more than just a group listing of months. This is a continuum of support stretching back into history and into the future....Each of these has at least one quitter I have come to know and who has helped in some way to get me to this point. And that's what this place is all about....Brother/Sister-hood, Accountability, Honor, Integrity, and QUIT!!! Much love and respect to each of you. ////
May you and your families and friends be blessed through experiences of peace, joy, and prosperity in the New Year.
Cav, you've been rocking that quit for so long- great job, great support you give others, and still bringin the energy ... love it! soak in the true accomplishment!
Sweet stuff Cav! You and a handful of other guys are ones i look for and look forward to seeing on here every day posting. Thanks for paying it forward.
The March 14' Iron Men also got your back brother. Count me in that bunch - many of us are better quitters because of what you do here.
Cavman always steady and constant. I know that you are a constant force for many and myself. Looking forward to many more milestone with you brother.
Well said
Glad to have met you on what? Day 9? Either way you have meant a lot in my quit as well. Thanks for the support and keep passing on your knowledge of NHNNNIML to those newbies.
'oh yeah'
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To mark what to me is a pretty significant occasion (although I fully recognize it may not hold any meaning at all to others :D ).....
Good morning Sultans,
Not sure why I noticed, but earlier this morning during the round of semi-weekly postings (I have time now as I'm still on break, but during the work week have to limit my postings severely as it just takes entirely too long to cover all the groups nowadays!!)....but I digress. As I was posting support for our brothers and sister in October '14 (gotta love them TITANS!), I noticed my post count was getting really close to a milestone. As I write this, some 933 days removed from June the tenth, 2014 (and by my way of counting 932 days into this quit), this is the NINE-THOUSANDTH, NINE-HUNDREDTH, and NINETY-NINTH post I have entered into these forum pages.
The very next one will be 10,000. //// EDIT: THIS is Post #10,000.... ////
That's a whole lot of time devoted to this quit, but a whole lot less time (and money) than I wasted on that insidious weed in a can. I'm thinking the best way I can "spend" that post is to copy this one and place it in my introduction, as a reminder of how stupid I once was, and how effective this community is. It is truly amazing (once you get past the sophomoric humor and the overall nastiness that some folks bring to these halls) how people can band together to jointly fight an addiction that is nearly impossible to break solo.
I am glad I found this place, and glad for my Sultan family. //// EDIT: I would like to modify and expand this to include not only my Sultans (like my immediate family), but also vets in the F.O.C.K.E.R.S (Sep '05), the GlassHousers (Apr' 12), the resolute Bastards (Apr '14), the madhouse of Project Mayhem (May '14), the DD Destroyers (July '14) and the "newer" groups my TITANS (Oct '14), the RANT (Dec '14), my beloved Hardbacks (Jan '15), my Friends the Fog Fighters of February (Feb '15), them Silverbuttses (Apr '15), the Fn' Misfits (May '15), the Jackals (Jul '15), my Sammies (Samurai, Sep '15), the ZBNski Nation (Nov '15), the fools of Apr '16, the Maysters of the Universe (May '16), the Phalanx (Jul '16), those Trauma=Tizers (Aug '16), my awesome STD's (Sep '16), the Raging Dumpster Fire (Oct '16), the Swarm (Nov '16), the Nameless Ninjas (Dec '16), the League (Jan '17), the Fellowship (Feb '17), the Mavericks (Mar '17), and the yet-to-be-named Hall of Famers of April, 17. This list represents so much more than just a group listing of months. This is a continuum of support stretching back into history and into the future....Each of these has at least one quitter I have come to know and who has helped in some way to get me to this point. And that's what this place is all about....Brother/Sister-hood, Accountability, Honor, Integrity, and QUIT!!! Much love and respect to each of you. ////
May you and your families and friends be blessed through experiences of peace, joy, and prosperity in the New Year.
Cav, you've been rocking that quit for so long- great job, great support you give others, and still bringin the energy ... love it! soak in the true accomplishment!
Sweet stuff Cav! You and a handful of other guys are ones i look for and look forward to seeing on here every day posting. Thanks for paying it forward.
The March 14' Iron Men also got your back brother. Count me in that bunch - many of us are better quitters because of what you do here.
Cavman always steady and constant. I know that you are a constant force for many and myself. Looking forward to many more milestone with you brother.
Well said
Glad to have met you on what? Day 9? Either way you have meant a lot in my quit as well. Thanks for the support and keep passing on your knowledge of NHNNNIML to those newbies.
'oh yeah'
Good stuff Cav, keep it rocking!
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To mark what to me is a pretty significant occasion (although I fully recognize it may not hold any meaning at all to others :D ).....
Good morning Sultans,
Not sure why I noticed, but earlier this morning during the round of semi-weekly postings (I have time now as I'm still on break, but during the work week have to limit my postings severely as it just takes entirely too long to cover all the groups nowadays!!)....but I digress. As I was posting support for our brothers and sister in October '14 (gotta love them TITANS!), I noticed my post count was getting really close to a milestone. As I write this, some 933 days removed from June the tenth, 2014 (and by my way of counting 932 days into this quit), this is the NINE-THOUSANDTH, NINE-HUNDREDTH, and NINETY-NINTH post I have entered into these forum pages.
The very next one will be 10,000. //// EDIT: THIS is Post #10,000.... ////
That's a whole lot of time devoted to this quit, but a whole lot less time (and money) than I wasted on that insidious weed in a can. I'm thinking the best way I can "spend" that post is to copy this one and place it in my introduction, as a reminder of how stupid I once was, and how effective this community is. It is truly amazing (once you get past the sophomoric humor and the overall nastiness that some folks bring to these halls) how people can band together to jointly fight an addiction that is nearly impossible to break solo.
I am glad I found this place, and glad for my Sultan family. //// EDIT: I would like to modify and expand this to include not only my Sultans (like my immediate family), but also vets in the F.O.C.K.E.R.S (Sep '05), the GlassHousers (Apr' 12), the resolute Bastards (Apr '14), the madhouse of Project Mayhem (May '14), the DD Destroyers (July '14) and the "newer" groups my TITANS (Oct '14), the RANT (Dec '14), my beloved Hardbacks (Jan '15), my Friends the Fog Fighters of February (Feb '15), them Silverbuttses (Apr '15), the Fn' Misfits (May '15), the Jackals (Jul '15), my Sammies (Samurai, Sep '15), the ZBNski Nation (Nov '15), the fools of Apr '16, the Maysters of the Universe (May '16), the Phalanx (Jul '16), those Trauma=Tizers (Aug '16), my awesome STD's (Sep '16), the Raging Dumpster Fire (Oct '16), the Swarm (Nov '16), the Nameless Ninjas (Dec '16), the League (Jan '17), the Fellowship (Feb '17), the Mavericks (Mar '17), and the yet-to-be-named Hall of Famers of April, 17. This list represents so much more than just a group listing of months. This is a continuum of support stretching back into history and into the future....Each of these has at least one quitter I have come to know and who has helped in some way to get me to this point. And that's what this place is all about....Brother/Sister-hood, Accountability, Honor, Integrity, and QUIT!!! Much love and respect to each of you. ////
May you and your families and friends be blessed through experiences of peace, joy, and prosperity in the New Year.
Cav, you've been rocking that quit for so long- great job, great support you give others, and still bringin the energy ... love it! soak in the true accomplishment!
Sweet stuff Cav! You and a handful of other guys are ones i look for and look forward to seeing on here every day posting. Thanks for paying it forward.
The March 14' Iron Men also got your back brother. Count me in that bunch - many of us are better quitters because of what you do here.
Cavman always steady and constant. I know that you are a constant force for many and myself. Looking forward to many more milestone with you brother.
Well said
Glad to have met you on what? Day 9? Either way you have meant a lot in my quit as well. Thanks for the support and keep passing on your knowledge of NHNNNIML to those newbies.
'oh yeah'
Good stuff Cav, keep it rocking!
Great stuff, Cav! You are the Obi Wan Kenobi of Quit: a wise teacher, great mentor and all around kick butt Jedi of quit!!! Your support meant the world to me back when I was just a snotty nosed KTC newbie and is still so important to me today.
'Cheers'
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Cavman.... NHNNNIML alphabet soup to the newbies and foggy kwithas, hours of entertainment for the vets and now a cornerstone in every bad ass quitters quit.
Thank you for all that you have done and continue to do for me. I truely am honored to have you in my corner. That comma is hard earned and congratulations on this huge milestone.
Keep kicking ass Brother
Red
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Nice comma man! Awesome accomplishment for an awesome quitter!
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Nice comma man! Awesome accomplishment for an awesome quitter!
Mr. Cavman. Always supporting...paying it forward.
Thanks for all you do .
Congrats on the comma!
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Nice comma man! Awesome accomplishment for an awesome quitter!
Mr. Cavman. Always supporting...paying it forward.
Thanks for all you do .
Congrats on the comma!
Cav,...what can I say that hasn't been said. They don't make them any tougher than you. Congrats on this huge milestone.
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Nice comma, CavMan. That's awesome...quit on!
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Nice comma man! Awesome accomplishment for an awesome quitter!
Mr. Cavman. Always supporting...paying it forward.
Thanks for all you do .
Congrats on the comma!
Cav,...what can I say that hasn't been said. They don't make them any tougher than you. Congrats on this huge milestone.
Congrats on your comma Cayman! Pure awesomeness!
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Nice comma man! Awesome accomplishment for an awesome quitter!
Mr. Cavman. Always supporting...paying it forward.
Thanks for all you do .
Congrats on the comma!
Cav,...what can I say that hasn't been said. They don't make them any tougher than you. Congrats on this huge milestone.
Congrats on your comma Cayman! Pure awesomeness!
Congratulations and thank you for all of your support!!
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To all fresh quitters: CavMan has 10,490 posts, and you can probably learn something that will strengthen your quit from 10,490 of them.
Congrats on the comma, Cav! Proud to be quit with you today and every other day.
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Nice comma man! Awesome accomplishment for an awesome quitter!
Mr. Cavman. Always supporting...paying it forward.
Thanks for all you do .
Congrats on the comma!
Cav,...what can I say that hasn't been said. They don't make them any tougher than you. Congrats on this huge milestone.
Congrats on your comma Cayman! Pure awesomeness!
Congratulations and thank you for all of your support!!
Thanks for being with me Edd! You my friend are BAQ! Can't say much good about your team.?
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Nice comma man! Awesome accomplishment for an awesome quitter!
Mr. Cavman. Always supporting...paying it forward.
Thanks for all you do .
Congrats on the comma!
Cav,...what can I say that hasn't been said. They don't make them any tougher than you. Congrats on this huge milestone.
Congrats on your comma Cayman! Pure awesomeness!
Congratulations and thank you for all of your support!!
Thanks for being with me Edd! You my friend are BAQ! Can't say much good about your team.?
Nice dangler Cav ... see you on roll for 1,001!
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Nice comma man! Awesome accomplishment for an awesome quitter!
Mr. Cavman. Always supporting...paying it forward.
Thanks for all you do .
Congrats on the comma!
Cav,...what can I say that hasn't been said. They don't make them any tougher than you. Congrats on this huge milestone.
Congrats on your comma Cayman! Pure awesomeness!
Congratulations and thank you for all of your support!!
Thanks for being with me Edd! You my friend are BAQ! Can't say much good about your team.?
Oh HELL NO you didn't just dis my Tigers on my own friggin' intro page!!!
Notice there is absolutely NO Roll Tide emoticon ANYWHERE in this forum (at least not yet).... 'na na'
:wareagle: :wareagle: :wareagle: :wareagle: :wareagle: :wareagle: :wareagle: :wareagle: :wareagle:
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Nice comma man! Awesome accomplishment for an awesome quitter!
Mr. Cavman. Always supporting...paying it forward.
Thanks for all you do .
Congrats on the comma!
Cav,...what can I say that hasn't been said. They don't make them any tougher than you. Congrats on this huge milestone.
Congrats on your comma Cayman! Pure awesomeness!
Congratulations and thank you for all of your support!!
Thanks for being with me Edd! You my friend are BAQ! Can't say much good about your team.?
Oh HELL NO you didn't just dis my Tigers on my own friggin' intro page!!!
Notice there is absolutely NO Roll Tide emoticon ANYWHERE in this forum (at least not yet).... 'na na'
:wareagle: :wareagle: :wareagle: :wareagle: :wareagle: :wareagle: :wareagle: :wareagle: :wareagle:
How do I follow ^^^ that?!
:wub: Cav...1,000 days...what an amazing milestone for one tremendous quitter! Thank you for your friendship and all of your support. :wub:
And for any young quitter who may have stumbled in here...if you read any intro from start to finish, read this one. There is quit gold to be found on these pages.
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Nice comma man! Awesome accomplishment for an awesome quitter!
Mr. Cavman. Always supporting...paying it forward.
Thanks for all you do .
Congrats on the comma!
Cav,...what can I say that hasn't been said. They don't make them any tougher than you. Congrats on this huge milestone.
Congrats on your comma Cayman! Pure awesomeness!
Congratulations and thank you for all of your support!!
Thanks for being with me Edd! You my friend are BAQ! Can't say much good about your team.?
Oh HELL NO you didn't just dis my Tigers on my own friggin' intro page!!!
Notice there is absolutely NO Roll Tide emoticon ANYWHERE in this forum (at least not yet).... 'na na'
:wareagle: :wareagle: :wareagle: :wareagle: :wareagle: :wareagle: :wareagle: :wareagle: :wareagle:
How do I follow ^^^ that?!
:wub: Cav...1,000 days...what an amazing milestone for one tremendous quitter! Thank you for your friendship and all of your support. :wub:
And for any young quitter who may have stumbled in here...if you read any intro from start to finish, read this one. There is quit gold to be found on these pages.
Congrats on the dangle Cavman!
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Nice comma man! Awesome accomplishment for an awesome quitter!
Mr. Cavman. Always supporting...paying it forward.
Thanks for all you do .
Congrats on the comma!
Cav,...what can I say that hasn't been said. They don't make them any tougher than you. Congrats on this huge milestone.
Congrats on your comma Cayman! Pure awesomeness!
Congratulations and thank you for all of your support!!
Thanks for being with me Edd! You my friend are BAQ! Can't say much good about your team.?
Oh HELL NO you didn't just dis my Tigers on my own friggin' intro page!!!
Notice there is absolutely NO Roll Tide emoticon ANYWHERE in this forum (at least not yet).... 'na na'
:wareagle: :wareagle: :wareagle: :wareagle: :wareagle: :wareagle: :wareagle: :wareagle: :wareagle:
How do I follow ^^^ that?!
:wub: Cav...1,000 days...what an amazing milestone for one tremendous quitter! Thank you for your friendship and all of your support. :wub:
And for any young quitter who may have stumbled in here...if you read any intro from start to finish, read this one. There is quit gold to be found on these pages.
Congrats on the dangle Cavman!
Well done brudda! Wave that thing around a bit!
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Nice comma man! Awesome accomplishment for an awesome quitter!
Mr. Cavman. Always supporting...paying it forward.
Thanks for all you do .
Congrats on the comma!
Cav,...what can I say that hasn't been said. They don't make them any tougher than you. Congrats on this huge milestone.
Congrats on your comma Cayman! Pure awesomeness!
Congratulations and thank you for all of your support!!
Thanks for being with me Edd! You my friend are BAQ! Can't say much good about your team.?
Oh HELL NO you didn't just dis my Tigers on my own friggin' intro page!!!
Notice there is absolutely NO Roll Tide emoticon ANYWHERE in this forum (at least not yet).... 'na na'
:wareagle: :wareagle: :wareagle: :wareagle: :wareagle: :wareagle: :wareagle: :wareagle: :wareagle:
How do I follow ^^^ that?!
:wub: Cav...1,000 days...what an amazing milestone for one tremendous quitter! Thank you for your friendship and all of your support. :wub:
And for any young quitter who may have stumbled in here...if you read any intro from start to finish, read this one. There is quit gold to be found on these pages.
Congrats on the dangle Cavman!
Well done brudda! Wave that thing around a bit!
Well done Cavman! Congrats on the Dangle!
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Congrats, a few days late. Thanks for all of the support over the past few years. You have been there through it all. Your support means a lot.
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Cavman. You da man. Thanks for all your support.
Thank you for your never-tiring efforts to help others here. Its amazing how much effort you put into supporting so many. So appreciated. So motivating.
Congrats on 3 years quit.
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Cavman. You da man. Thanks for all your support.
Thank you for your never-tiring efforts to help others here. Its amazing how much effort you put into supporting so many. So appreciated. So motivating.
Congrats on 3 years quit.
THREE YEARS!!!
'party' Congratulations, CavMan! 'party' And thanks for all you do for all of us at KTC! :wub:
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Cavman. You da man. Thanks for all your support.
Thank you for your never-tiring efforts to help others here. Its amazing how much effort you put into supporting so many. So appreciated. So motivating.
Congrats on 3 years quit.
THREE YEARS!!!
'party' Congratulations, CavMan! 'party' And thanks for all you do for all of us at KTC! :wub:
Congrats, dude. You're doing exactly what you should be doing now. Supporting guys like me. And you're doing it WELL!!!!
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Cavman. You da man. Thanks for all your support.
Thank you for your never-tiring efforts to help others here. Its amazing how much effort you put into supporting so many. So appreciated. So motivating.
Congrats on 3 years quit.
THREE YEARS!!!
'party' Congratulations, CavMan! 'party' And thanks for all you do for all of us at KTC! :wub:
Congrats, dude. You're doing exactly what you should be doing now. Supporting guys like me. And you're doing it WELL!!!!
THREE..... Rocks!
Appreciate your support in FFF.
Rawls 936
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Cavman. You da man. Thanks for all your support.
Thank you for your never-tiring efforts to help others here. Its amazing how much effort you put into supporting so many. So appreciated. So motivating.
Congrats on 3 years quit.
THREE YEARS!!!
'party' Congratulations, CavMan! 'party' And thanks for all you do for all of us at KTC! :wub:
Congrats, dude. You're doing exactly what you should be doing now. Supporting guys like me. And you're doing it WELL!!!!
THREE..... Rocks!
Appreciate your support in FFF.
Rawls 936
Congrats Cav! Super proud to be quit with you, thanks for all you do!!
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Cavman. You da man. Thanks for all your support.
Thank you for your never-tiring efforts to help others here. Its amazing how much effort you put into supporting so many. So appreciated. So motivating.
Congrats on 3 years quit.
THREE YEARS!!!
'party' Congratulations, CavMan! 'party' And thanks for all you do for all of us at KTC! :wub:
Congrats, dude. You're doing exactly what you should be doing now. Supporting guys like me. And you're doing it WELL!!!!
THREE..... Rocks!
Appreciate your support in FFF.
Rawls 936
Congrats Cav! Super proud to be quit with you, thanks for all you do!!
Three years!!
Nice work Cav.
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Congrats Cav! 3 year bad ass!
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Congrats Cav!
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Thank you for helping me out in my quit, my intro is littered with your support. Keep rolling along and looking that ol' bitch in the eye. Don't blink. 'lift'
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Thank you for helping me out in my quit, my intro is littered with your support. Keep rolling along and looking that ol' bitch in the eye. Don't blink. 'lift'
Congratulations on the 1100 my brother and friend!
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1200!!!
Another great milestone !!! Thanks for being an inspiration for so many of us here at KTC, Joel!!!
'party2' 'party2'
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1200!!!
Another great milestone !!! Thanks for being an inspiration for so many of us here at KTC, Joel!!!
'party2' 'party2'
Nice work! soon you will be on military time... 'winker'
I QLF with you this fine day!
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1200!!!
Another great milestone !!! Thanks for being an inspiration for so many of us here at KTC, Joel!!!
'party2' 'party2'
Nice work! soon you will be on military time... 'winker'
I QLF with you this fine day!
Thanks for all you do sir! Proud to be quit with you and congrats!!
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Congrats Cav! Thanks for everything you've done for me and everyone else around here!
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'Birthday' Cavman!
celebrate and have a great freedom birthday.
thank you for all your support!!
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Congrats on hitting the 13th floor Cavman!
You're the real deal. Thanks for all the support!
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Congrats on hitting the 13th floor Cavman!
You're the real deal. Thanks for all the support!
Congratulations on the 13th floor my friend and brother
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Congrats on hitting the 13th floor Cavman!
You're the real deal. Thanks for all the support!
Congratulations on the 13th floor my friend and brother
A belated congratulations on reaching your latest milestone, Joel!!!
'party2' 'party2' 'party2'
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What a shame.
So many you've helped.
So many that don't even know they're going to quit yet, won't get your support and help....
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I can understand people moving on with their lives but I hate seeing one quit over bullshit! I know there was more but Damn! He helped a lot and would have continued helping more. Quit on my brother and friend
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There always has been a reason to leave if you want. Cavman you have always been stead fast in rising above the bullshit and be a beacon of support for anyone that is willing to quit daily, I urge you to stay.
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Stay Cav. â¤
So much BS to ignore.
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Stay Cav. â¤
So much BS to ignore.
He has supported myself and I am grateful for that.
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I hope this is not true but if it is I need to tell you this: I can not thank you enough for all of the support you gave me. You will do what you need to do - I can understand that.
Always proud to quit with you!
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Good morning KTC Community and especially my new-found friends in the HOF September 2014 quit group.
This is my second quit....I've been a Copenhagen user for nearly 40 years....
Believe it or not, I actually managed to get the beast off my back and out of my system (or so I thought), in March of 1993 (before FORUMs and Chat Rooms existed, far as I know). Stayed that way for 14, nearly 15 months. Committed the cardinal sin while fishing with a buddy in Logan Martin ("one won't hurt")....bought a can at a convenience store on the way home from the lake and went right back to it like I never ever quit.
Please believe me when I tell you that one WILL hurt....there's no denying that truth, and now it's 2 decades later. I don't even want to know how many dollars I have wasted on a habit I had already "kicked" once. 'bang head'
I delayed my quit for about a week this time; I had done a bit of research on Chantix and if it had any success rates with helping smokeless users quit...decided to try it. Am now on Day 8 of Chantix and Day 1 of Quit #2. So far not unbearable, but as I posted roll this morning, I know I'm going to need to lean on people...I turned into an a #1 ass during the first quit (wife didn't appreciate it too much); don't want to have a repeat of that.
There are also two important dates tied to this quit...today would have been my father's 80th birthday (I still miss him even after six years), and day 100 just happens to be the wife's birthday.
Not looking forward to the next three or four days, but I am looking forward to being quit.
Respectfully,
JDW
I am only closing out day 4 so I am definitely no expert. As for my wife I find the best way not to be nasty is to focus on her and not me. When I am with her everything is about her. This has worked so far. The 2nd thing is I break my days into 3 parts and my only goal is to get through each part and before I know it the day is over and I am sleeping getting ready for the next day. Stay strong.
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Shit, I miss this guy. Me and Cav have an unorthodox history, but joined in quit for 4 years and a mutual respect that truly evolved over time. This respect is, in my opinion, as strong as my closest quit brethren simply because we had find common ground. We worked for it. Now, I donÂ’t think we have any uncommon ground. So, I miss seeing Cav grace these pages... yet I totally respect his cause. The quit is bigger than him alone and if there is any a man of principal, itÂ’s Cav.