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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: JonathanEngr on June 26, 2013, 05:38:00 PM
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Okay... I'm about to say something I probably shouldn't say, but boy did I pick a bad time to quit. Let me explain...
My wife and kids are on a 3 week trip out west, and I chose this time to quit dipping. I primarily wanted to be able to have these three weeks to get past the really difficult, initial stages. And although my wife truly means well, I didn't want her figuring out what I was doing, getting excited, and then asking me every hour "How is it going? Do you feel okay??"
Anyway, I'm feeling completely bummed right now. I had ALL KINDS of plans for when they were away... grilling out, having the guys over, playing with my newest additions to my theater room, taking a trip or two out of town... but now it's as if someone COMPLETELY turned off my "excitement" button.
I've spent a couple of hours reading through sections of the forum here, and I'm definitely in "the fog" where I kind-of just sit and stare, find something--anything--to pass the time, get dipping off of my mind, get me closer to bedtime so I can just go to sleep!
Any suggestions????
As for quitting, it's time. It's past time. I quit once before and was quit for *7* years. If I hadn't taken that one dip that one night I wouldn't be going through this crap. I honestly don't remember it being *this* bad last time.
Right now I'm just doing all I can to shut off my mind when it drifts to the "just go to the store, buy a can, have a dip. You've done GREAT! 2 Days! You know you can quit, but for now, have a dip so you can enjoy the time to yourself.... you've earned it. You can quit dipping once the wife and kids get back." DAMN do I want to do it!!! Ugh....
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Just because you quit dipping doesn't mean you can't have the boys over, play with your toys and take your trips...by all means go for it man. But do it quit style. Make a commitment that you won't chew for the rest of the day...have your boys over, grill, have some beers, whatever just don't chew...i know, easier said then done...but just think, you'll wake up tomorrow and realize you made it through the night without a dip. Even if your hungover you'll feel better than if you had a dip and didnt have a drop of beer.
One hour at a time...for now.
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Just because you quit dipping doesn't mean you can't have the boys over, play with your toys and take your trips...by all means go for it man. But do it quit style. Make a commitment that you won't chew for the rest of the day...have your boys over, grill, have some beers, whatever just don't chew...i know, easier said then done...but just think, you'll wake up tomorrow and realize you made it through the night without a dip. Even if your hungover you'll feel better than if you had a dip and didnt have a drop of beer.
One hour at a time...for now.
And for fuck's sake...don't bring that "it's a bad time to quit" bullshit here. It wasn't a good time for one of the guys here to stay quit...he is going through a divorce...but he's quit...one guy lost his dad and best friend within the same month...probably could have caved and would have been the one guy that could have caved and would have been welcomed back with open arms...but he stayed quit...
My son was born in feb...he had colic for the first 3 months...may was awful, i quit may 7th. It wasn't a "good time" for me to quit either....wife went through all kinds of hormonal bullshit...GET MY FUCKING POINT?
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Okay... I'm about to say something I probably shouldn't say, but boy did I pick a bad time to quit. Let me explain...
My wife and kids are on a 3 week trip out west, and I chose this time to quit dipping. I primarily wanted to be able to have these three weeks to get past the really difficult, initial stages. And although my wife truly means well, I didn't want her figuring out what I was doing, getting excited, and then asking me every hour "How is it going? Do you feel okay??"Â
Anyway, I'm feeling completely bummed right now. I had ALL KINDS of plans for when they were away... grilling out, having the guys over, playing with my newest additions to my theater room, taking a trip or two out of town... but now it's as if someone COMPLETELY turned off my "excitement" button.Â
I've spent a couple of hours reading through sections of the forum here, and I'm definitely in "the fog" where I kind-of just sit and stare, find something--anything--to pass the time, get dipping off of my mind, get me closer to bedtime so I can just go to sleep!
Any suggestions????
As for quitting, it's time. It's past time. I quit once before and was quit for *7* years. If I hadn't taken that one dip that one night I wouldn't be going through this crap. I honestly don't remember it being *this* bad last time.
Right now I'm just doing all I can to shut off my mind when it drifts to the "just go to the store, buy a can, have a dip. You've done GREAT! 2 Days! You know you can quit, but for now, have a dip so you can enjoy the time to yourself.... you've earned it. You can quit dipping once the wife and kids get back." DAMN do I want to do it!!! Ugh....
THE very BEST time to quit dipping is NOW.
THE very WORST time to quit is TOMORROW. Because tomorrow could be the dip that starts the cycle. The cycle of cancer. The cycle that starts with a small bump on your cheek and ends with you lieing in a hospital bed with half a face as one of your children is drapped over you crying "don't go daddy!!!!". Odds may seem long but the odds don't matter if it happens to you, and it can. Don't believe me, read the "Tom and Jenny Kern Story" on this site.
You had big plans and I'd like to tell you to go on and do them without dip, but I actually can relate to your excitement button being turned off. You probably don't feel like doing SOME of them without your old crutch. Eventually you will see you didn't need dip to enjoy those things, but being 100% honest with you, 2 days in would be tough.
However, you do need to keep moving. I'm sure their are some things on your fun list you can do. You can't just sit around a feel sorry for yourself. I'd avoid anything with alcohol or anything that was a HUGE trigger, but you gotta get up off your ass and at least try. The nic biatch loves a sitting target.
Finally don't be bummed. Be happy. You are getting you're freedom back and freeing yourself from one of the nastiest addictions known to man kind. You're family has to be thrilled you are quitting. They should be doubly thrilled you found this site, because we can help you quit, and stay quit.
You never quit before, you stopped. If you had quit, you wouldn't be here right now and would be knocking out everything on your fun list while whistling zipadee doo da out your asshole.
You're in the right place. Things get tough and you need an outlet to vent...come here. We will help.
Welcome.
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Thanks, guys. And that's what I keep telling myself... today IS the day. The sooner I start, the sooner this crap is behind me. I've played the "now just isn't a good time", and "I'm seriously planning to do it" crap for two years now. I DO NOT want to wait until something terrible like cancer comes along.
I guess I could do a lot of things, it's just that the "thrill" factor just isn't there. AS for inviting the guys over, a few of them dip, and they ALL smoke cigars. We have a big time of it when one of the wives is away, but I *know* if I have them over I'll fall back into nicotine if it's a cigar or whatever.
Funny thing is, I had no plans for this week to be the week. It's something that came to mind for the reasons in my first post, and I just stopped dipping. It went okay on Day 1, Day 2 has been hell, and I hope beyond all hope that day 3 will be a bit better than Day 2. Sheesh.....
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Thanks, guys. And that's what I keep telling myself... today IS the day. The sooner I start, the sooner this crap is behind me. I've played the "now just isn't a good time", and "I'm seriously planning to do it" crap for two years now. I DO NOT want to wait until something terrible like cancer comes along.
I guess I could do a lot of things, it's just that the "thrill" factor just isn't there. AS for inviting the guys over, a few of them dip, and they ALL smoke cigars. We have a big time of it when one of the wives is away, but I *know* if I have them over I'll fall back into nicotine if it's a cigar or whatever.
Funny thing is, I had no plans for this week to be the week. It's something that came to mind for the reasons in my first post, and I just stopped dipping. It went okay on Day 1, Day 2 has been hell, and I hope beyond all hope that day 3 will be a bit better than Day 2. Sheesh.....
I have found that the best times can be when you did not plan them. Quitting doesn't require any great thinking! Or else I would be screwed. Only posting roll and then being a man of your word! You got this. Sounds like you already know that your friends coming over may be a trigger this week. I would hold off on that for now. Go work out. Or watch porn... 'crackup' Anything but chew.
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LOL! Watching the movie "Lock Out" right now. Thought maybe a good action movie would keep my mind occupied.
Went through the house again with a fine toothed comb to make sure there wasn't a spare can of dip lying anywhere... worries me that I might succumb. I'm good right now!
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LOL! Watching the movie "Lock Out" right now. Thought maybe a good action movie would keep my mind occupied.
Went through the house again with a fine toothed comb to make sure there wasn't a spare can of dip lying anywhere... worries me that I might succumb. I'm good right now!
That was a good call on your part. One day at a time.
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Made it last night!!!! To my surprise, I woke up this morning without a HUGE craving for a dip (which is my MO). In fact, I woke up, showered, had a protein shake, and met a group of people to walk. I just got back in a few minutes ago.
I'm feeling really good right now. I knew I would be driving RIGHT BY the store where I always buy my dip... they always have a "5-can" special. I didn't even think of stopping. Today is MUCH, *MUCH* better than yesterday. I'm really surprised and proud that I didn't cave yesterday--it was a bad one!
Thanks for everyone's input. About to head back out... I'll try to check in again in a bit.
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Made it last night!!!! To my surprise, I woke up this morning without a HUGE craving for a dip (which is my MO). In fact, I woke up, showered, had a protein shake, and met a group of people to walk. I just got back in a few minutes ago.
I'm feeling really good right now. I knew I would be driving RIGHT BY the store where I always buy my dip... they always have a "5-can" special. I didn't even think of stopping. Today is MUCH, *MUCH* better than yesterday. I'm really surprised and proud that I didn't cave yesterday--it was a bad one!
Thanks for everyone's input. About to head back out... I'll try to check in again in a bit.
Good job brother. Glad to have you here.
Ahhhhh,, the 5 can special. I remember those. The 2, 3 and 5. You want to know what they can do with that 5, 3, 2 whatever the heck special.
It's something how we believed we were saving money sometimes when we bought that crap. Thank about it brother. They put this sign up and told us we were saving money and we bought right into it. SOB. I spent over 20,000 dollars on the poison. How sad is that!
Your on day 2, I believe. That's two days you haven't spent your hard earned money on a special that does nothing but slowly kill you while taking your freedom health and dignity. SCREW THE SPECIAL!!!! Quit with you all day.
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Whoa Jonathon....lookin like you have 4 posts, all in your Intro thread here....
October 2013 will be your quit group. Every day, early as possible, post your promise not to use nicotine for that day. At this point though...take it by the hour, minute, whatever you have to do to stay quit. Exercise like a madman, drink a metric shiite ton of water, read, read, read this site. Stay distracted, and focused on your quit.
Let's get ya into that Oct group with your promise...and use KTC the way it was intended......
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Whoa Jonathon....lookin like you have 4 posts, all in your Intro thread here....
October 2013 will be your quit group. Every day, early as possible, post your promise not to use nicotine for that day. At this point though...take it by the hour, minute, whatever you have to do to stay quit. Exercise like a madman, drink a metric shiite ton of water, read, read, read this site. Stay distracted, and focused on your quit.
Let's get ya into that Oct group with your promise...and use KTC the way it was intended......
^^^^ this fine feller speaks the truth. I took my quit as an opportunity to get into better shape. I was already active, but when I quit is when I started hitting the weights. I started running more. I was one of the few that lost weight through my quit.
Nothing kills a crave like pushups or burpees or a half mile sprint at full run, get the picture? Get active, drink a lot, and be quit. FYI, 120 days in, so worth it. Promise, keep it Promise again. Be quit. Welcome to KTC
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Thanks, guys. Regarding my posts at this point, should I post in another section??? I didn't really see anything pointing me to any specific location.
I definitely intend to continue exercising. I recently lost 22 pounds (from 209 down to 187) to get rid of the little beer gut I was growing. My goal is to not gain a pound of it back, and I think I can do it. I've become a very good eater from a health/caloric standpoint, and being active really, really helps with the cravings.
My ultimate weight goal is to get down to 175 pounds which, at 6'3" tall, leaves me a bit thin. However, I used to run competitively in college (before running was a fad!), and would like to get back into that. In college I competed in the weight range of 140-145 pounds.... LOL!
Anyway, I'm mumbling. So far today I've had very little cravings if any at all. I feel almost like the "withdrawal" scenes from movies. A person gets increasingly worse until they're just in complete agony, and then boom! Everything begins to calm. Yesterday was just so bad... I honestly think I had thoughts of dipping and *why* I should do it enter my mind every couple of minutes despite what I did to distract myself. If I had come across an empty can later last night, I swear I would have been licking it. Today it's completely opposite.
Of course, tomorrow is another day, and it could be better or worse. I'll just keep taking it a day at a time!!!
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Thanks, guys. Regarding my posts at this point, should I post in another section??? I didn't really see anything pointing me to any specific location.
I definitely intend to continue exercising. I recently lost 22 pounds (from 209 down to 187) to get rid of the little beer gut I was growing. My goal is to not gain a pound of it back, and I think I can do it. I've become a very good eater from a health/caloric standpoint, and being active really, really helps with the cravings.
My ultimate weight goal is to get down to 175 pounds which, at 6'3" tall, leaves me a bit thin. However, I used to run competitively in college (before running was a fad!), and would like to get back into that. In college I competed in the weight range of 140-145 pounds.... LOL!
Anyway, I'm mumbling. So far today I've had very little cravings if any at all. I feel almost like the "withdrawal" scenes from movies. A person gets increasingly worse until they're just in complete agony, and then boom! Everything begins to calm. Yesterday was just so bad... I honestly think I had thoughts of dipping and *why* I should do it enter my mind every couple of minutes despite what I did to distract myself. If I had come across an empty can later last night, I swear I would have been licking it. Today it's completely opposite.
Of course, tomorrow is another day, and it could be better or worse. I'll just keep taking it a day at a time!!!
John, at your stage of the game you can change minute by minute, or second by second. If you can go day to day do it, but go to whatever you need to at this point.
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Jonathan - You can quit. You're doing it right now. Cold turkey, with bad timing...I FUCKING LOVE IT. I'm getting pumped up just reading about your quit. FUCKING AWESOME!!!
Now, all you need to do is change your attitude. Turn the tables on the Nic Bitch. EMBRACE THE SUCK!!! See it for what it is...bullshit attempts by the Nic Bitch to get back in your life. She sneaks up on you physically (withdrawals symptoms, headaches, constipation, confusion, distraction, etc) and psychologically (the lies and rationalization you come up with to justify "just one more"). WELL FUCK ALL OF THAT!!!
You're in control now. There is no negotiating, no excuse-making, no rationalizing, none of that shit. YOU'RE QUIT TODAY...AND THAT IS THAT!!! One day at a time is all that matters. Don't think about tomorrow, next week, etc...we'll deal with them when they get here. And NODOBY is asking you to quit forever. All we're doing here is getting through today nic free. Then wake up tomorrow, post roll and do it again.
Quitting is a PRIVILEGE reserved to those who have the guts to do it. I used to sit in my garage and say (out loud) shit like, "I GET to feel this shitty because I choose to quit. I GET to have my wife and kids because I choose to quit. I GET to go through this shit instead of disfiguring mouth/jaw surgery and feeding tubes."
(Yes, there was some concern the neighbors might have me committed to the state hospital pajama party...but I would have been quit there, too. So win/win, right?)
My point is that I was ALL IN. My quit got easier when I CHOSE to EMBRACE THE SUCK. I quit looking ahead to what Christmas, hunting tips, birthdays or whatever would be like without dip. I would find out in time...but none of that shit mattered today. I made the decision that I would laugh at the shitty times...enjoy the worst the Nic Bitch could throw my way, and have fun with my new freedom. I mean, I wanted to know just how bad it could get, right? I was drinking Citrucel, not sleeping a wink at night, living with a constant headache, trying to exercise...it sucked. But I was exhilerated by the thought of getting clean and living free.
Burn the boats...no going back...come Hell or high water...do your worst...I'm going toe to toe with the Nic Bitch today and there's nothing anyone can do about it!!!
Nobody gets free for the asking. You've gotta earn it. Get pumped about quitting. YOU CAN DO THIS! Attitude is everything. Stay strong and stay quit, brother!!!
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Regarding my posts at this point, should I post in another section??? I didn't really see anything pointing me to any specific location.
Come join us in Community Quit Groups Pre HOF October 2013
This is our quit group, we will hit 100 days quit in October.
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LOL! Bean--love your post. That's the whole ticket... with every second I'm NOT doing it, it simply reinforces my desire to NOT do it! Geez... I never want to go through yesterday again. Willpower or not, that was hell. I honestly think I would have taken a dip yesterday IF there had been any around. Glad there wasn't.
I'm still feeling pretty good. I'll be leaving in a bit to head out of town for a meeting, and won't be in until later this evening. Glad for this... keeping myself busy really, really helps. At the same time, when I'm traveling in my truck I dip virtually 100% of the time. Wish me luck on this one... I'll have about one hour in my truck each way. I know I can do it..!!!!
Regarding the October group, do I just go there and post?
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I guess I could do a lot of things, it's just that the "thrill" factor just isn't there.
You had mentioned this, as well as feeling like the "excitement" button was off.
I remember when I thought like that - "This would be so much cooler with dip." God, what a fucking idiot I was.
You will get over that phase, I promise. One day at a time, just like all of us here.
Enjoying your story. Keep posting everyday. Keep kicking ass
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DUDE...eliminate that thinking of "i probably would have if it was around". First day or not...you wouldn't have...you know how i know? Well i have no idea where you live but you probably live within 20 minutes of a gas station...your wife wasn't home so it would have been VERY EASY to drive and get you some....dip is all around you whether it's in your buddy's back pocket or a short drive down the street...you WOULD NOT HAVE dipped if some was around because some was around...you didn't cave..you made it. Embrace it all...you won last night.
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Regarding the October group, do I just go there and post?
Yes, you just post in the October quit group. Full instructions are at the Welcome Center link above. Don't worry about screwing up...the mods can un-fuck anything you fuck up (I think).
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6'3" 175???? that's what I was in 7th grade.
Keep quit twigs.
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cant stop staring at jbags5 avatar...
Glad to be quit with ya' Jonathan- if you need anything shoot me a PM
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I'm interested in hearing how the drive went...or the "Jon-a-thon" as I call it.
Driving was a HUGE trigger for me. I had a once a month meeting...90 minutes each way with terrible traffic no matter what time of day. It was as if TxDOT was conspiring against me. I practically "Teen Wolf'd" it on the roof of my own truck the first couple of times.
Then, I embraced the suck. I decided to bring a cassette (yes, my truck still has a cassette deck) from my childhood...Billy Joel's Greatest Hits. I immediately understood that things could be much worse. And I began to feel better. See, Billy Joel's shit sucked so bad the Nic Bitch got out of my truck, I guess. I recommend it.
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I'm still here!!!!! Drive went off without a hitch. I have more meetings this morning, so that means a little more driving. However, I woke up again this morning without cravings. WOW!!!!!! Thankfully, no Billy Joel!
Diesel--LOL! I'm not there yet!
Dougie--JBags avatar is always a good 15 minute or so distraction from the thought of dipping! (Okay... maybe 30 mins).
Thanks for the support fellas.
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Don't know whether to double post or not since it's been a while. Let me know if it's a no-no and I'll not do it again.
Well, I've been driving a good part of the day, and I'm doing so, so well. I'm sooooo thankful for dip substitutes. Man has this stuff come such a long way. I couldn't do the fake dip when I tried to quit last time... it was so pointy it hurt my lip, and it came out in a glob that just stayed there. I've only tried Smoky Mountain, but it's working pretty well for me since it actually tastes similar to what I was dipping (Grizzly).
It seems my nicotine addiction is gone. Ohhhh I'm so excited! The last time I quit I ended up picking up cigars about a year later, and I became dependent on them. My wife's dislike of the permeating smell is what turned me back to dipping. No more. No nicotine for me at all. Zero, zilch, nada. If I get a terminal illness and they find that nicotine can cure it, I'll just die. LOL!
BTW--where am I supposed to post my pledge to quit? Kind of a moot point now I guess, but it would be good to do.
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It seems my nicotine addiction is gone. Ohhhh I'm so excited!
It will never be gone, yous always gonna be an addict. You will just learn how not to stuff nicotine into your body.
The last time I quit I ended up picking up cigars about a year later, and I became dependent on them.
My point exactly. You prolly thought your addiction was gone last time too. It wasn't it was just laying in wait for you to fuk up. And you did.
Don't ever allow yourself to be fooled into thinking you are cured.....
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Don't know whether to double post or not since it's been a while. Let me know if it's a no-no and I'll not do it again.
Well, I've been driving a good part of the day, and I'm doing so, so well. I'm sooooo thankful for dip substitutes. Man has this stuff come such a long way. I couldn't do the fake dip when I tried to quit last time... it was so pointy it hurt my lip, and it came out in a glob that just stayed there. I've only tried Smoky Mountain, but it's working pretty well for me since it actually tastes similar to what I was dipping (Grizzly).
It seems my nicotine addiction is gone. Ohhhh I'm so excited! The last time I quit I ended up picking up cigars about a year later, and I became dependent on them. My wife's dislike of the permeating smell is what turned me back to dipping. No more. No nicotine for me at all. Zero, zilch, nada. If I get a terminal illness and they find that nicotine can cure it, I'll just die. LOL!
BTW--where am I supposed to post my pledge to quit? Kind of a moot point now I guess, but it would be good to do.
Whooooooa!!!!!! I'm glad you are excited and doing well! But I gotta stop you! Your nicotine addiction is NOT gone! By definition an addict is an addict for life! You may be doing well but DO NOT get cocky! Was it gone for the year you quit before? NO or else you wouldn't be here today! Enjoy the victory, but prepare yourself. It is a daily battle!
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Don't know whether to double post or not since it's been a while. Let me know if it's a no-no and I'll not do it again.
Well, I've been driving a good part of the day, and I'm doing so, so well. I'm sooooo thankful for dip substitutes. Man has this stuff come such a long way. I couldn't do the fake dip when I tried to quit last time... it was so pointy it hurt my lip, and it came out in a glob that just stayed there. I've only tried Smoky Mountain, but it's working pretty well for me since it actually tastes similar to what I was dipping (Grizzly).
It seems my nicotine addiction is gone. Ohhhh I'm so excited! The last time I quit I ended up picking up cigars about a year later, and I became dependent on them. My wife's dislike of the permeating smell is what turned me back to dipping. No more. No nicotine for me at all. Zero, zilch, nada. If I get a terminal illness and they find that nicotine can cure it, I'll just die. LOL!
BTW--where am I supposed to post my pledge to quit? Kind of a moot point now I guess, but it would be good to do.
Whooooooa!!!!!! I'm glad you are excited and doing well! But I gotta stop you! Your nicotine addiction is NOT gone! By definition an addict is an addict for life! You may be doing well but DO NOT get cocky! Was it gone for the year you quit before? NO or else you wouldn't be here today! Enjoy the victory, but prepare yourself. It is a daily battle!
Addiction cannot be cured. VERY TRUE! Its a condition that if left untreated is dangerous but if you treat it daily, it is manageable and gets to where you don't notice it.
My skin peels around my nose. There is no cure. Doctor gave me elidel. If I put it on daily, I never have a problem. If I don't, skin sheds off my nose. Its just a welsh gene I inherited but it doesn't bother me anymore because I treat is daily.
Same shit just with your mind. Posting roll and quitting every day with accountability makes the treatment of addiction simple.
Stick with the plan for life. Get used to that and this is a fucking cake walk in time. Just be alert and keep support close because flare ups are unpredictable at times.
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All very good points... thanks, guys! I think I was mainly referring to the "what to expect when you quit" article and the first three days (when the nic is out of your body). I'm not having those foggy, wretched days anymore, but I know I'm far from done. Last time I quit I had "dip dreams" for years afterwards. Crazy stuff.
Well, I woke up again with no cravings. I must say, this time is very different than the last time I quit. My quit last time is what made me hesitant about this time. Last time I quit, I was in the "fog" for a month. IT WAS **BAD**. For a good three months my wife said I was very difficult to live with. I don't know what is different physiologically about this time, but I"m glad it's different. So, so glad.
Got to go sign in. 100 days is going to be *mine*. With every day that passes I want it that much more!!!!!!
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By the way... keep me in mind. I'm heading out to our place at the lake today, and it was a dipping haven for me. I really think I'll be okay, but it's a big test.
Also, I broke the news to my wife. I've been so excited I couldn't wait. She was floored!!!! I've also told several of my friends... more incentive to follow through with what I say I'm going to do.
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All very good points... thanks, guys! I think I was mainly referring to the "what to expect when you quit" article and the first three days (when the nic is out of your body). I'm not having those foggy, wretched days anymore, but I know I'm far from done. Last time I quit I had "dip dreams" for years afterwards. Crazy stuff.
Well, I woke up again with no cravings. I must say, this time is very different than the last time I quit. My quit last time is what made me hesitant about this time. Last time I quit, I was in the "fog" for a month. IT WAS **BAD**. For a good three months my wife said I was very difficult to live with. I don't know what is different physiologically about this time, but I"m glad it's different. So, so glad.
Got to go sign in. 100 days is going to be *mine*. With every day that passes I want it that much more!!!!!!
oh be careful there, as many times have we seen the cocky, overconfident, complacent one come back with a new Day 1.
Keep your guard up Every Damn Day. You can do this.
And use what you have been through to keep you from repeating the past.
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Ohhhhh yes. I was a quitter for seven years who is now back on Day 6. That was kind-of cocky of me, wasn't it? Seriously, though, I didn't mean that to be cocky. I, of all people, should certainly know how slippery a slope nicotine can be.
I'm done with it. I don't want to touch it again. It makes me furious that despite all of the things I'm capable of doing, it is one thing that has been out of my control, and it could *kill* me. And not some quick, painless death, either.
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All very good points... thanks, guys! I think I was mainly referring to the "what to expect when you quit" article and the first three days (when the nic is out of your body). I'm not having those foggy, wretched days anymore, but I know I'm far from done. Last time I quit I had "dip dreams" for years afterwards. Crazy stuff.
Well, I woke up again with no cravings. I must say, this time is very different than the last time I quit. My quit last time is what made me hesitant about this time. Last time I quit, I was in the "fog" for a month. IT WAS **BAD**. For a good three months my wife said I was very difficult to live with. I don't know what is different physiologically about this time, but I"m glad it's different. So, so glad.
Got to go sign in. 100 days is going to be *mine*. With every day that passes I want it that much more!!!!!!
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By the way... keep me in mind. I'm heading out to our place at the lake today, and it was a dipping haven for me. I really think I'll be okay, but it's a big test.
Also, I broke the news to my wife. I've been so excited I couldn't wait. She was floored!!!! I've also told several of my friends... more incentive to follow through with what I say I'm going to do.
I'm a firm believer that your physiology can be influenced by your mind set. I don't know the background of why you stopped chewing for a few years prior to this quit, but if you had a negative outlook on your past quit then I believe you will feel worse during it. We say it here all the time. Mind over matter! If you carry this quit with excitement and determination and do it for the right reasons I believe it is easier! Not easy but easier! Those who quit for the wrong reasons have a hard time at it and ultimately fail! Keep the positive attitude.
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Lake was great!!! I had a wonderful time with friends and stayed nicotine free the whole weekend. I'm about to go sign in for the October quitters!
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I'm still here!!!!! Just got back in from my trip out west... it was AWESOME and DIP FREE!!!!! I'll sign in first thing in the AM.
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I'm still here!!!!! Just got back in from my trip out west... it was AWESOME and DIP FREE!!!!! I'll sign in first thing in the AM.
I'll post, support my brothers and dive into accountability
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hello. this is my first post. im looking for a no-nicotine substitute for grizzly wintergreen pouches? ive tried herbal stuff before but it tasted so different and the texture was so different from longcut it didn't work. i figured the feeling of pouches (and hopefully taste) will be easier replicated from a herbal substitute. does anyone have any idea the closest substitute in taste to grizzly wintergreen pouches?
would really appreciate some help but i really don't wanna spend a bunch of money again on something i won't use because it's not even close. thanks :)
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hello. this is my first post. im looking for a no-nicotine substitute for grizzly wintergreen pouches? ive tried herbal stuff before but it tasted so different and the texture was so different from longcut it didn't work. i figured the feeling of pouches (and hopefully taste) will be easier replicated from a herbal substitute. does anyone have any idea the closest substitute in taste to grizzly wintergreen pouches?
would really appreciate some help but i really don't wanna spend a bunch of money again on something i won't use because it's not even close. thanks :)
First of all you will want to make a new intro so you are not hijacking someone elses thread.
Second of all you are a nicotine addict and anything you shove in your piehole that does not contain nicotine will not satisfy you. Now before everyone goes ballistic on me, you can use herbal as a tool to help with the oral fixation. But it will not give you the "fix" you are looking for.
You can also try regular gum (no nic gum), toothpicks, seeds, atomic fireballs, anything it takes to keep that crap out of your mouth.
If you have any questions pm me or put them in an intro of your own.
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hello. this is my first post. im looking for a no-nicotine substitute for grizzly wintergreen pouches? ive tried herbal stuff before but it tasted so different and the texture was so different from longcut it didn't work. i figured the feeling of pouches (and hopefully taste) will be easier replicated from a herbal substitute. does anyone have any idea the closest substitute in taste to grizzly wintergreen pouches?
would really appreciate some help but i really don't wanna spend a bunch of money again on something i won't use because it's not even close. thanks :)
Would prolly be better for you to start your own intro page, on to the question though. I'm not sure that you will find an herbal snuff that is identical to grizzly, I used the Smokey mountain herbal and I was a Copenhagen long cut user for years. The Smokey mountain really helped me a lot for the first few weeks and then I just dropped it as well. Some people on here with swear by the fake stuff and others never really used it much. The best thing to do though to get your quit started off right is to go post roll in the October 13 quit group and then make yourself an intro page and use all of the resources that are available for you here. Their are a lot of substitutes for dip and just to name a few, you have seeds, gum, tooth picks, hard candy, some people even use coffee beans and tea bags, just use anything that you can as long as it has no nicotine or tobacco in it you will be just fine. If you ever need anything at all feel free to pm me.
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sorry fellas, never been on a forum before....wasn't sure how it worked....thanks and i will do that.
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Hi, all. It's been crazy after my 10 days away. I did want to give you guys a quick update.
I met my wife and kids out west, and although I had already broken the news to her, she was still ELATED that I had quit! I can't believe how much more enjoyable it made the trip.
You guys know how it is... you go somewhere, and you're hoping beyond hope that nothing is going to tie you up for more than an hour. I used to be the biggest killjoy on long excursions and what not, but not this time! We went on an all day excursion in Sedona, Az, starting with a jeep tour, then horseback riding, a cowboy dinner and a show. It was 8 hours total, and I would have been *miserable* waiting for my next dip. I did take a can of fake dip with me, but never touched it. Dipping never even crossed my mind. Wonderful. Simply *awesome*.
After returning home, I also went over to a buddy's house where a group of us meet to brew beer (and drink our creations!). It's a big cigar thing. Everyone will smoke one or two during the process. I didn't touch a single cigar, nor did the second-hand smoke make me crave anything. I'm so anti-nicotine right now I don't want to touch anything with nicotine in it.
I'm sorry I fell off of the forums for a bit... I'll def plan ahead better next time!
24 days.... WOW!!!!!!!!!
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Hi, all. It's been crazy after my 10 days away. I did want to give you guys a quick update.
I met my wife and kids out west, and although I had already broken the news to her, she was still ELATED that I had quit! I can't believe how much more enjoyable it made the trip.
You guys know how it is... you go somewhere, and you're hoping beyond hope that nothing is going to tie you up for more than an hour. I used to be the biggest killjoy on long excursions and what not, but not this time! We went on an all day excursion in Sedona, Az, starting with a jeep tour, then horseback riding, a cowboy dinner and a show. It was 8 hours total, and I would have been *miserable* waiting for my next dip. I did take a can of fake dip with me, but never touched it. Dipping never even crossed my mind. Wonderful. Simply *awesome*.
After returning home, I also went over to a buddy's house where a group of us meet to brew beer (and drink our creations!). It's a big cigar thing. Everyone will smoke one or two during the process. I didn't touch a single cigar, nor did the second-hand smoke make me crave anything. I'm so anti-nicotine right now I don't want to touch anything with nicotine in it.
I'm sorry I fell off of the forums for a bit... I'll def plan ahead better next time!
24 days.... WOW!!!!!!!!!
Good job on your quit man. keep playing it close though and own it everyday cause the ride's not over.