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Title: Intro - Just Quit Dip
Post by: Cochise on January 14, 2014, 02:48:00 PM
Been dipping for past 22 years. Tried stopping many times to no avail. Nice to find this group with folks I can relate with. Thanks for being here!!
Title: Re: Intro - Just Quit Dip
Post by: jzzyzag01 on January 14, 2014, 03:11:00 PM
Quote from: Cochise
Been dipping for past 22 years. Tried stopping many times to no avail. Nice to find this group with folks I can relate with. Thanks for being here!!
Great to have you Cochise. Lucky for you, this site isn't about stopping, but quitting. KTC is all about quitting for just today. Don't worry about tomorrow. Today is here now and is ripe for the winning.

If you haven't already, go post roll in April 2014. That will be your group as you head towards 100 day free (Hall of Fame). By posting roll, you are making a promise to yourself and the rest of your group that you will not under any circumstances use nicotine in any form today (patches and nic gum included). Keep you promise and you just won day 1.

Start reading everything you can on the site. Intros, hall of fame speeches, words of wisdom, etc. Then get some numbers from your group. The more numbers exchanged, the more the accountability builds on itself. I know it seems weird to exchange numbers with strangers, but you probably tried it for a long time trying to pick up girls, so try it again here. It's bound to be more successful than your attempts with the ladies. I have yet to be rejected by anybody on this site!

Again, glad to have you here, and even more glad you've decided that you're no longer a slave to nicotine. I quit with you today.
Title: Re: Intro - Just Quit Dip
Post by: Cochise on January 14, 2014, 03:13:00 PM
Quote from: jzzyzag01
Quote from: Cochise
Been dipping for past 22 years. Tried stopping many times to no avail. Nice to find this group with folks I can relate with.  Thanks for being here!!
Great to have you Cochise. Lucky for you, this site isn't about stopping, but quitting. KTC is all about quitting for just today. Don't worry about tomorrow. Today is here now and is ripe for the winning.

If you haven't already, go post roll in April 2014. That will be your group as you head towards 100 day free (Hall of Fame). By posting roll, you are making a promise to yourself and the rest of your group that you will not under any circumstances use nicotine in any form today (patches and nic gum included). Keep you promise and you just won day 1.

Start reading everything you can on the site. Intros, hall of fame speeches, words of wisdom, etc. Then get some numbers from your group. The more numbers exchanged, the more the accountability builds on itself. I know it seems weird to exchange numbers with strangers, but you probably tried it for a long time trying to pick up girls, so try it again here. It's bound to be more successful than your attempts with the ladies. I have yet to be rejected by anybody on this site!

Again, glad to have you here, and even more glad you've decided that you're no longer a slave to nicotine. I quit with you today.
Thank You!!
Title: Re: Intro - Just Quit Dip
Post by: Wt57 on January 14, 2014, 03:16:00 PM
Quote from: Cochise
Been dipping for past 22 years. Tried stopping many times to no avail. Nice to find this group with folks I can relate with. Thanks for being here!!
My fellow nicotine addict, your 22 years and my 40 years of slavery can be reversed. For how long? For one day, Today! I struggled with this concept for months after making that move to quit. Finally I accepted the fact that I can control today, tomorrow will be a new today after I win today's battle. Post roll making a promise and keep your word today. After winning this battle then worry about the next battle. Worrying about the next battle or tomorrow takes your eye off the job at hand. Join me today in the battle.
Title: Re: Intro - Just Quit Dip
Post by: Cochise on January 14, 2014, 03:35:00 PM
Quote from: Wt57
Quote from: Cochise
Been dipping for past 22 years. Tried stopping many times to no avail. Nice to find this group with folks I can relate with.  Thanks for being here!!
My fellow nicotine addict, your 22 years and my 40 years of slavery can be reversed. For how long? For one day, Today! I struggled with this concept for months after making that move to quit. Finally I accepted the fact that I can control today, tomorrow will be a new today after I win today's battle. Post roll making a promise and keep your word today. After winning this battle then worry about the next battle. Worrying about the next battle or tomorrow takes your eye off the job at hand. Join me today in the battle.
Thank you so much for the support!! I am really thankful to be amongst you all. I feel stronger already!!
Title: Re: Intro - Just Quit Dip
Post by: jzzyzag01 on January 14, 2014, 03:50:00 PM
Nice job trying to post roll. Here's the process to avoid the mistake in the future:

1) Quote
2) CTRL + A in lower box
3) CTRL + X
4) CTRL + V in upper box
5) Name and quit number goes below last quitter and above Supporters section.

All done. In a couple days, it'll take you less than 30 seconds to post. Whether you post properly or not, your promise still stands. You will NOT use nic in any form today. Me neither!
Title: Re: Intro - Just Quit Dip
Post by: Cochise on January 14, 2014, 04:46:00 PM
Quote from: jzzyzag01
Nice job trying to post roll. Here's the process to avoid the mistake in the future:

1) Quote
2) CTRL + A in lower box
3) CTRL + X
4) CTRL + V in upper box
5) Name and quit number goes below last quitter and above Supporters section.

All done. In a couple days, it'll take you less than 30 seconds to post. Whether you post properly or not, your promise still stands. You will NOT use nic in any form today. Me neither!
Roger that.. No Dip Today!! Thank you
Title: Re: Intro - Just Quit Dip
Post by: jzzyzag01 on January 14, 2014, 05:21:00 PM
Quote from: Cochise
Quote from: jzzyzag01
Nice job trying to post roll.  Here's the process to avoid the mistake in the future:

1)  Quote
2)  CTRL + A in lower box
3)  CTRL + X
4)  CTRL + V in upper box
5)  Name and quit number goes below last quitter and above Supporters section.

All done.  In a couple days, it'll take you less than 30 seconds to post.  Whether you post properly or not, your promise still stands.  You will NOT use nic in any form today.  Me neither!
Roger that.. No Dip Today!! Thank you
You got it. Don't hesitate to reach out to others and grab numbers. They will be more than willing because they remember what it was like. Grab the NB by her proverbial balls, it's gonna be a helluva ride.
Title: Re: Intro - Just Quit Dip
Post by: Cochise on January 16, 2014, 07:05:00 AM
Quote from: jzzyzag01
Quote from: Cochise
Quote from: jzzyzag01
Nice job trying to post roll.  Here's the process to avoid the mistake in the future:

1)  Quote
2)  CTRL + A in lower box
3)  CTRL + X
4)  CTRL + V in upper box
5)  Name and quit number goes below last quitter and above Supporters section.

All done.  In a couple days, it'll take you less than 30 seconds to post.  Whether you post properly or not, your promise still stands.  You will NOT use nic in any form today.  Me neither!
Roger that.. No Dip Today!! Thank you
You got it. Don't hesitate to reach out to others and grab numbers. They will be more than willing because they remember what it was like. Grab the NB by her proverbial balls, it's gonna be a helluva ride.
Hanging in there. Yesterday was really hard on Day 2 of my quit. Was really stressed out over some issues and found a can in my trunk. I quickly emptied it out though. I will not DIP today! Thanks again for the support.
Title: Re: Intro - Just Quit Dip
Post by: Emulator on January 16, 2014, 07:18:00 AM
Hey, these next few days are the worst You can make it through. Come to the site as often as you need , call on your brothers and sister... We want you to succeed. One Day at a Time.. Quit only for today, everyday.
Title: Re: Intro - Just Quit Dip
Post by: Cochise on January 16, 2014, 11:56:00 AM
Quote from: Emulator
Hey, these next few days are the worst You can make it through. Come to the site as often as you need , call on your brothers and sister... We want you to succeed. One Day at a Time.. Quit only for today, everyday.
Thank You Emulator!
Title: Re: Intro - Just Quit Dip
Post by: SAM83 on April 23, 2014, 06:45:00 AM
Congrats on 100 days!!!
Title: Re: Intro - Just Quit Dip
Post by: copingwithoutcopen on April 23, 2014, 07:21:00 AM
Quote from: SAM83
Congrats on 100 days!!!
wtb a quittah, Chief! Congrats!
Title: Re: Intro - Just Quit Dip
Post by: Thumblewort on April 23, 2014, 08:42:00 AM
There is something about these intros that have several posts at first, then nothing until HoF that make me admire that quitter even more. I don't know what it is, but gratz on the 100!! Totally badass!
Title: Re: Intro - Just Quit Dip
Post by: thewolfe on April 23, 2014, 05:27:00 PM
Quote from: Thumblewort
There is something about these intros that have several posts at first, then nothing until HoF that make me admire that quitter even more. I don't know what it is, but gratz on the 100!! Totally badass!
Maybe they can't find their original post anymore cause it's buried! LOL

Perhaps a good idea for us to post our "intro article" LINK in our signature.. I noticed a lot of the vets do that... it's cool cause you can go get the story of their quit.

Quit Hard!
Title: Re: Intro - Just Quit Dip
Post by: Lipizzaner on December 21, 2014, 02:44:00 PM
Quote from: Thewolfe
Quote from: Thumblewort
There is something about these intros that have several posts at first, then nothing until HoF that make me admire that quitter even more. I don't know what it is, but gratz on the 100!! Totally badass!
Maybe they can't find their original post anymore cause it's buried! LOL

Perhaps a good idea for us to post our "intro article" LINK in our signature.. I noticed a lot of the vets do that... it's cool cause you can go get the story of their quit.

Quit Hard!
There is something about an intro that has several posts at first, then nothing until HoF, and then nothing again until their cave, that is very telling about what went wrong with their stoppage.
Based on the level of accountability Chochise has shown by posting a day 1 and immediately going into hiding, I would say this stoppage is off the a similar start.
'bang head'
Title: Re: Intro - Just Quit Dip
Post by: Grizzlyhasclaws on December 21, 2014, 03:30:00 PM
Quote from: Lipizzaner
Quote from: Thewolfe
Quote from: Thumblewort
There is something about these intros that have several posts at first, then nothing until HoF that make me admire that quitter even more. I don't know what it is, but gratz on the 100!! Totally badass!
Maybe they can't find their original post anymore cause it's buried! LOL

Perhaps a good idea for us to post our "intro article" LINK in our signature.. I noticed a lot of the vets do that... it's cool cause you can go get the story of their quit.

Quit Hard!
There is something about an intro that has several posts at first, then nothing until HoF, and then nothing again until their cave, that is very telling about what went wrong with their stoppage.
Based on the level of accountability Chochise has shown by posting a day 1 and immediately going into hiding, I would say this stoppage is off the a similar start.
'bang head'
Congrats on a fresh day 1. Are you going to answer the three questions?
Title: Re: Intro - Just Quit Dip
Post by: 30yraddict on December 21, 2014, 09:41:00 PM
there was nothing you wouldn't have done to get to a can when you were using.

Come back when you are willing to exert that kind of effort into being quit.

Until then you are simply marking time until your next cave.
Title: Re: Intro - Just Quit Dip
Post by: Raider on December 22, 2014, 12:23:00 AM
You will only get out of this what you put in. Posting every now and then doesn't mean a damn thing.
Title: Re: Intro - Just Quit Dip
Post by: Steakbomb18 on December 22, 2014, 07:04:00 AM
Days quit = 339; # of posts = 176 (and that includes subtracting the post for re-posting day 1).

Proof is in the numbers; Posts don't even equal days quit, therefor we have a non-roll poster. End result = cave. Newbies please take notice, if you do not post roll, every freakin' day, this is what happens. Post HOFers, please take notice of what I just wrote to the Newbies. Veterans, see previous notes 1 and 2.

Accountability + brotherhood = success. I bet this guy hardly had a number to call based on his level of activity and with no accountability or brotherhood the equation fails. Only reason I had heard of this guy, I was the conductor who was supposed to write his HOF story...I had to make one up.
Title: Re: Intro - Just Quit Dip
Post by: wastepanel on December 22, 2014, 07:54:00 AM
Quote from: Lipizzaner
Quote from: Thewolfe
Quote from: Thumblewort
There is something about these intros that have several posts at first, then nothing until HoF that make me admire that quitter even more. I don't know what it is, but gratz on the 100!! Totally badass!
Maybe they can't find their original post anymore cause it's buried! LOL

Perhaps a good idea for us to post our "intro article" LINK in our signature.. I noticed a lot of the vets do that... it's cool cause you can go get the story of their quit.

Quit Hard!
There is something about an intro that has several posts at first, then nothing until HoF, and then nothing again until their cave, that is very telling about what went wrong with their stoppage.
Based on the level of accountability Chochise has shown by posting a day 1 and immediately going into hiding, I would say this stoppage is off the a similar start.
'bang head'
You're killing me here smalls.

There's two rules to stay quit here: post roll, and use the tools provided here when necessary. You were pretty shitty about following the first one, but you outright failed at the second. Quite aren't forged in times of good. They're earned in times of bad.

What yA gonna do now?
Title: Re: Intro - Just Quit Dip
Post by: SAM83 on December 22, 2014, 08:42:00 AM
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: Lipizzaner
Quote from: Thewolfe
Quote from: Thumblewort
There is something about these intros that have several posts at first, then nothing until HoF that make me admire that quitter even more. I don't know what it is, but gratz on the 100!! Totally badass!
Maybe they can't find their original post anymore cause it's buried! LOL

Perhaps a good idea for us to post our "intro article" LINK in our signature.. I noticed a lot of the vets do that... it's cool cause you can go get the story of their quit.

Quit Hard!
There is something about an intro that has several posts at first, then nothing until HoF, and then nothing again until their cave, that is very telling about what went wrong with their stoppage.
Based on the level of accountability Chochise has shown by posting a day 1 and immediately going into hiding, I would say this stoppage is off the a similar start.
'bang head'
You're killing me here smalls.

There's two rules to stay quit here: post roll, and use the tools provided here when necessary. You were pretty shitty about following the first one, but you outright failed at the second. Quite aren't forged in times of good. They're earned in times of bad.

What yA gonna do now?
In addition to posting roll EDD, the expectation in April 2014, March 2015 and the rest of KTC is simple, give serious thought and answer the following three questions:

What happened?
Why did it happen?
What are you going to do different this time?
Title: Re: Intro - Just Quit Dip
Post by: Doc Chewfree on December 22, 2014, 09:25:00 AM
How about it, goatcheese? Gonna answer the questions and face the music?-
Title: Re: Intro - Just Quit Dip
Post by: Thumblewort on December 22, 2014, 10:17:00 AM
I was happy to re-read this and see how naive I was in April, and not looking into roll post percentage like I do now.

Cohise, this is your life man, but my take on roll is that 30 seconds of your day is worth staying quit.
Title: Re: Intro - Just Quit Dip
Post by: Grizzlyhasclaws on December 22, 2014, 03:57:00 PM
You gonna answer the three questions? Or just sit there like a bump on a log?
Title: Re: Intro - Just Quit Dip
Post by: Ginet on December 22, 2014, 04:10:00 PM
Quote from: grizzlyhasclaws
You gonna answer the three questions? Or just sit there like a bump on a log?
Come on Cochise. I said you could keep my number as long as you used it BEFORE you bought a can or used......I need to hear all of it though. I don't know if you are dead serious about quitting or if you are just not concerned about being....well,.....dead.

We can't quit for you. We can't help you even when we said we would if you can't help yourself here....get real, get honest. Get to quitting.
Title: Re: Intro - Just Quit Dip
Post by: SAM83 on December 24, 2014, 08:09:00 AM
Cochise- After 339 days, I caved on 12-18-14. I regret it and can't explain why. Thank You for your support in the past 339 days. Today 12-21-14, I will be on Day 1. I never thought this would happen to me. I am beating myself enough as it is. Thank You again Resolute Bastards.

1. What Happened ? I work the night shift and went to a gas station to buy a cup of coffee. While at the counter there was a huge rack of dip on the counter right in my face. I was upset at the time over some major major issues and told the cashier to give me a can of long cut cope. I had no intentions of using it but to just keep on me for a crutch. (I know this sounds crazy but this is what my ADDICT mind was doing at the time)

2. Why did it happen ? I guess it happened because I never reached out to anyone when I felt vulnerable. It is hard finding a fellow NIC addict at 3am. I guess by me not posting roll on daily basis contributed. Also contributing to my cave is forgetting why I need to stay quit, which is to LIVE. I obviously have a lot to learn.

3. What are you going to do differently this time? Post roll daily, I will also try to find another KTC member who works at night so we can communicate when feeling vulnerable to the nic bitch. Most importantly, I have learned that the nic bitch whispers in all our ears because we are addicts and she got me. My goal is to learn some skills to not fall prey to the Nic Bitch the next time I am undergoing major problems. This time I will learn to BE QUIT and not SAY YOU ARE QUIT. There is a difference I recently learned. BE QUIT is a strong foundation. Saying you are quit is weak. Remember that Roll Callers. I hope my negative experience can help a new comer. I always believe there is a silver lining to every situation. I caved at 339 days while with the Resolute Bastards who was my family and who I miss so much!! My punishment is letting the Resolute Bastards down, who was my family for 339 days. This will always haunt me. I feel so horrible and I apologize to the Resolute Bastards and to the rest of everyone at KTC. Please learn from me to strengthen your quit!!! To those who will bash me and ridicule me, you are absolutely right. I am a failure and a weak idiot. You are right!! All I can do is get back on my horse. But know if you ever fail, I will be the first one their to pick you up. I will never shun you or leave you behind. All I ask is that new comers, please get phone numbers and reach out constantly to everyone and know you are an ADDICT and always remember the goal of staying quit is simply to LIVE. If you ever need anything please text or call me 24/7.
Title: Re: Intro - Just Quit Dip
Post by: SAM83 on December 24, 2014, 08:11:00 AM
Quote from: SAM83
Cochise- After 339 days, I caved on 12-18-14. I regret it and can't explain why. Thank You for your support in the past 339 days. Today 12-21-14, I will be on Day 1. I never thought this would happen to me. I am beating myself enough as it is. Thank You again Resolute Bastards.

1. What Happened ? I work the night shift and went to a gas station to buy a cup of coffee. While at the counter there was a huge rack of dip on the counter right in my face. I was upset at the time over some major major issues and told the cashier to give me a can of long cut cope. I had no intentions of using it but to just keep on me for a crutch. (I know this sounds crazy but this is what my ADDICT mind was doing at the time)

2. Why did it happen ? I guess it happened because I never reached out to anyone when I felt vulnerable. It is hard finding a fellow NIC addict at 3am. I guess by me not posting roll on daily basis contributed. Also contributing to my cave is forgetting why I need to stay quit, which is to LIVE. I obviously have a lot to learn.

3. What are you going to do differently this time? Post roll daily, I will also try to find another KTC member who works at night so we can communicate when feeling vulnerable to the nic bitch. Most importantly, I have learned that the nic bitch whispers in all our ears because we are addicts and she got me. My goal is to learn some skills to not fall prey to the Nic Bitch the next time I am undergoing major problems. This time I will learn to BE QUIT and not SAY YOU ARE QUIT. There is a difference I recently learned. BE QUIT is a strong foundation. Saying you are quit is weak. Remember that Roll Callers. I hope my negative experience can help a new comer. I always believe there is a silver lining to every situation. I caved at 339 days while with the Resolute Bastards who was my family and who I miss so much!! My punishment is letting the Resolute Bastards down, who was my family for 339 days. This will always haunt me. I feel so horrible and I apologize to the Resolute Bastards and to the rest of everyone at KTC. Please learn from me to strengthen your quit!!! To those who will bash me and ridicule me, you are absolutely right. I am a failure and a weak idiot. You are right!! All I can do is get back on my horse. But know if you ever fail, I will be the first one their to pick you up. I will never shun you or leave you behind. All I ask is that new comers, please get phone numbers and reach out constantly to everyone and know you are an ADDICT and always remember the goal of staying quit is simply to LIVE. If you ever need anything please text or call me 24/7.
Cochise, our relationship in April 2014 was somewhat one sided the last three months. There was a lot of effort expended by your brothers/sisters attempting to track you down as you drifted in and out with a posting % of about 25%. Let’s take a look at what happened. How did buying a can and packing your lip do absolutely anything to relieve the fact that you were upset? 1 problem + chew = 2 problems. Any rationalization to the contrary is what you said, “addict speak”. At the end of the day your posting percentage says it all. That daily promise keeps it fresh in our mind and holds us accountable. Your failure to stay involved here, respond to those reaching out to you and honor your commitment put you in a position where you were able to rationalize your “addict speak”.

LetÂ’s be clear on why it happened. It happened because you failed to use the connections you had made on KTC. I know Lady G and Josey were consistently reaching out to you and I was a PMÂ’ing mosquito in your ear. I am sure there were others. You are not the only guy who works nights on this site. If you really want to make connections then you should be checking out chat before or after work to make these connections. Post your desire to have form a text group with shift workers in your intro and actually seek out some additional support. The bottom line is you drifted and at the end of the day you got separated from the herd.

I personally liked a lot of your response to what you are going to do differently. There is no “try” here and I heard a lot of that in your response, which is not good. You are either going to post roll every day or you are not. Try is just more “addict speak”. You are either going to seek out some guys on evening shifts or you are not. You are either going to take nicotine off the table in your mind or you are going to leave that door open. There simply is no try. Try is for people who fail. You need to do. I think you should continue to post support for April 2014 EDD as well as your new group. There are quitters there who are already part of that support. Get over the self-loathing and feeling sorry for your-self. You are either quit or you are not.
At this point I am supporting your efforts and will continue to support you. The rest is up to you and your effort to be a part of your new group. Follow your plan.
Title: Re: Intro - Just Quit Dip
Post by: wastepanel on December 24, 2014, 03:12:00 PM
Quote from: SAM83
Quote from: SAM83
Cochise- After 339 days, I caved on 12-18-14. I regret it and can't explain why. Thank You for your support in the past 339 days. Today 12-21-14, I will be on Day 1. I never thought this would happen to me. I am beating myself enough as it is. Thank You again Resolute Bastards.

1. What Happened ? I work the night shift and went to a gas station to buy a cup of coffee. While at the counter there was a huge rack of dip on the counter right in my face. I was upset at the time over some major major issues and told the cashier to give me a can of long cut cope. I had no intentions of using it but to just keep on me for a crutch. (I know this sounds crazy but this is what my ADDICT mind was doing at the time)

2. Why did it happen ? I guess it happened because I never reached out to anyone when I felt vulnerable. It is hard finding a fellow NIC addict at 3am. I guess by me not posting roll on daily basis contributed. Also contributing to my cave is forgetting why I need to stay quit, which is to LIVE. I obviously have a lot to learn.

3. What are you going to do differently this time? Post roll daily, I will also try to find another KTC member who works at night so we can communicate when feeling vulnerable to the nic bitch. Most importantly, I have learned that the nic bitch whispers in all our ears because we are addicts and she got me. My goal is to learn some skills to not fall prey to the Nic Bitch the next time I am undergoing major problems. This time I will learn to BE QUIT and not SAY YOU ARE QUIT. There is a difference I recently learned. BE QUIT is a strong foundation. Saying you are quit is weak. Remember that Roll Callers. I hope my negative experience can help a new comer. I always believe there is a silver lining to every situation. I caved at 339 days while with the Resolute Bastards who was my family and who I miss so much!! My punishment is letting the Resolute Bastards down, who was my family for 339 days. This will always haunt me. I feel so horrible and I apologize to the Resolute Bastards and to the rest of everyone at KTC. Please learn from me to strengthen your quit!!! To those who will bash me and ridicule me, you are absolutely right. I am a failure and a weak idiot. You are right!! All I can do is get back on my horse. But know if you ever fail, I will be the first one their to pick you up. I will never shun you or leave you behind. All I ask is that new comers, please get phone numbers and reach out constantly to everyone and know you are an ADDICT and always remember the goal of staying quit is simply to LIVE. If you ever need anything please text or call me 24/7.
Cochise, our relationship in April 2014 was somewhat one sided the last three months. There was a lot of effort expended by your brothers/sisters attempting to track you down as you drifted in and out with a posting % of about 25%. Let’s take a look at what happened. How did buying a can and packing your lip do absolutely anything to relieve the fact that you were upset? 1 problem + chew = 2 problems. Any rationalization to the contrary is what you said, “addict speak”. At the end of the day your posting percentage says it all. That daily promise keeps it fresh in our mind and holds us accountable. Your failure to stay involved here, respond to those reaching out to you and honor your commitment put you in a position where you were able to rationalize your “addict speak”.

LetÂ’s be clear on why it happened. It happened because you failed to use the connections you had made on KTC. I know Lady G and Josey were consistently reaching out to you and I was a PMÂ’ing mosquito in your ear. I am sure there were others. You are not the only guy who works nights on this site. If you really want to make connections then you should be checking out chat before or after work to make these connections. Post your desire to have form a text group with shift workers in your intro and actually seek out some additional support. The bottom line is you drifted and at the end of the day you got separated from the herd.

I personally liked a lot of your response to what you are going to do differently. There is no “try” here and I heard a lot of that in your response, which is not good. You are either going to post roll every day or you are not. Try is just more “addict speak”. You are either going to seek out some guys on evening shifts or you are not. You are either going to take nicotine off the table in your mind or you are going to leave that door open. There simply is no try. Try is for people who fail. You need to do. I think you should continue to post support for April 2014 EDD as well as your new group. There are quitters there who are already part of that support. Get over the self-loathing and feeling sorry for your-self. You are either quit or you are not.
At this point I am supporting your efforts and will continue to support you. The rest is up to you and your effort to be a part of your new group. Follow your plan.
Thanks for reaching out yesterday with your number. Together, we are strong.

But when you are weak...you can take. That's what this place is, and that's why I love it. We're not all badass all the time. Sometimes, we struggle. We shouldn't be afraid to ask for help, and we shouldn't be expected to never ask.

We can do this. Quits aren't made when you're inspired. They're forged in bad times.
Title: Re: Intro - Just Quit Dip
Post by: Frazzled on March 13, 2015, 10:24:00 PM
Quote from: wastepanel
Quote from: SAM83
Quote from: SAM83
Cochise- After 339 days, I caved on 12-18-14. I regret it and can't explain why. Thank You for your support in the past 339 days. Today 12-21-14, I will be on Day 1. I never thought this would happen to me. I am beating myself enough as it is. Thank You again Resolute Bastards.

1. What Happened ? I work the night shift and went to a gas station to buy a cup of coffee. While at the counter there was a huge rack of dip on the counter right in my face. I was upset at the time over some major major issues and told the cashier to give me a can of long cut cope. I had no intentions of using it but to just keep on me for a crutch. (I know this sounds crazy but this is what my ADDICT mind was doing at the time)

2. Why did it happen ? I guess it happened because I never reached out to anyone when I felt vulnerable. It is hard finding a fellow NIC addict at 3am. I guess by me not posting roll on daily basis contributed. Also contributing to my cave is forgetting why I need to stay quit, which is to LIVE. I obviously have a lot to learn.

3. What are you going to do differently this time? Post roll daily, I will also try to find another KTC member who works at night so we can communicate when feeling vulnerable to the nic bitch. Most importantly, I have learned that the nic bitch whispers in all our ears because we are addicts and she got me. My goal is to learn some skills to not fall prey to the Nic Bitch the next time I am undergoing major problems. This time I will learn to BE QUIT and not SAY YOU ARE QUIT. There is a difference I recently learned. BE QUIT is a strong foundation. Saying you are quit is weak. Remember that Roll Callers. I hope my negative experience can help a new comer. I always believe there is a silver lining to every situation. I caved at 339 days while with the Resolute Bastards who was my family and who I miss so much!! My punishment is letting the Resolute Bastards down, who was my family for 339 days. This will always haunt me. I feel so horrible and I apologize to the Resolute Bastards and to the rest of everyone at KTC. Please learn from me to strengthen your quit!!! To those who will bash me and ridicule me, you are absolutely right. I am a failure and a weak idiot. You are right!! All I can do is get back on my horse. But know if you ever fail, I will be the first one their to pick you up. I will never shun you or leave you behind. All I ask is that new comers, please get phone numbers and reach out constantly to everyone and know you are an ADDICT and always remember the goal of staying quit is simply to LIVE. If you ever need anything please text or call me 24/7.
Cochise, our relationship in April 2014 was somewhat one sided the last three months. There was a lot of effort expended by your brothers/sisters attempting to track you down as you drifted in and out with a posting % of about 25%. Let’s take a look at what happened. How did buying a can and packing your lip do absolutely anything to relieve the fact that you were upset? 1 problem + chew = 2 problems. Any rationalization to the contrary is what you said, “addict speak”. At the end of the day your posting percentage says it all. That daily promise keeps it fresh in our mind and holds us accountable. Your failure to stay involved here, respond to those reaching out to you and honor your commitment put you in a position where you were able to rationalize your “addict speak”.

LetÂ’s be clear on why it happened. It happened because you failed to use the connections you had made on KTC. I know Lady G and Josey were consistently reaching out to you and I was a PMÂ’ing mosquito in your ear. I am sure there were others. You are not the only guy who works nights on this site. If you really want to make connections then you should be checking out chat before or after work to make these connections. Post your desire to have form a text group with shift workers in your intro and actually seek out some additional support. The bottom line is you drifted and at the end of the day you got separated from the herd.

I personally liked a lot of your response to what you are going to do differently. There is no “try” here and I heard a lot of that in your response, which is not good. You are either going to post roll every day or you are not. Try is just more “addict speak”. You are either going to seek out some guys on evening shifts or you are not. You are either going to take nicotine off the table in your mind or you are going to leave that door open. There simply is no try. Try is for people who fail. You need to do. I think you should continue to post support for April 2014 EDD as well as your new group. There are quitters there who are already part of that support. Get over the self-loathing and feeling sorry for your-self. You are either quit or you are not.
At this point I am supporting your efforts and will continue to support you. The rest is up to you and your effort to be a part of your new group. Follow your plan.
Thanks for reaching out yesterday with your number. Together, we are strong.

But when you are weak...you can take. That's what this place is, and that's why I love it. We're not all badass all the time. Sometimes, we struggle. We shouldn't be afraid to ask for help, and we shouldn't be expected to never ask.

We can do this. Quits aren't made when you're inspired. They're forged in bad times.
So, another Day 1, cochise?

You'd best be explaining yourself pretty quickly. This is bullshit.
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Cochise- After 339 days, I caved on 12-18-14. I regret it and can't explain why. Thank You for your support in the past 339 days. Today 12-21-14, I will be on Day 1. I never thought this would happen to me. I am beating myself enough as it is. Thank You again Resolute Bastards.

1. What Happened ? I work the night shift and went to a gas station to buy a cup of coffee. While at the counter there was a huge rack of dip on the counter right in my face. I was upset at the time over some major major issues and told the cashier to give me a can of long cut cope. I had no intentions of using it but to just keep on me for a crutch. (I know this sounds crazy but this is what my ADDICT mind was doing at the time)

2. Why did it happen ? I guess it happened because I never reached out to anyone when I felt vulnerable. It is hard finding a fellow NIC addict at 3am. I guess by me not posting roll on daily basis contributed. Also contributing to my cave is forgetting why I need to stay quit, which is to LIVE. I obviously have a lot to learn.

3. What are you going to do differently this time? Post roll daily, I will also try to find another KTC member who works at night so we can communicate when feeling vulnerable to the nic bitch. Most importantly, I have learned that the nic bitch whispers in all our ears because we are addicts and she got me. My goal is to learn some skills to not fall prey to the Nic Bitch the next time I am undergoing major problems. This time I will learn to BE QUIT and not SAY YOU ARE QUIT. There is a difference I recently learned. BE QUIT is a strong foundation. Saying you are quit is weak. Remember that Roll Callers. I hope my negative experience can help a new comer. I always believe there is a silver lining to every situation. I caved at 339 days while with the Resolute Bastards who was my family and who I miss so much!! My punishment is letting the Resolute Bastards down, who was my family for 339 days. This will always haunt me. I feel so horrible and I apologize to the Resolute Bastards and to the rest of everyone at KTC. Please learn from me to strengthen your quit!!! To those who will bash me and ridicule me, you are absolutely right. I am a failure and a weak idiot. You are right!! All I can do is get back on my horse. But know if you ever fail, I will be the first one their to pick you up. I will never shun you or leave you behind. All I ask is that new comers, please get phone numbers and reach out constantly to everyone and know you are an ADDICT and always remember the goal of staying quit is simply to LIVE. If you ever need anything please text or call me 24/7.
Cochise, our relationship in April 2014 was somewhat one sided the last three months. There was a lot of effort expended by your brothers/sisters attempting to track you down as you drifted in and out with a posting % of about 25%. Let’s take a look at what happened. How did buying a can and packing your lip do absolutely anything to relieve the fact that you were upset? 1 problem + chew = 2 problems. Any rationalization to the contrary is what you said, “addict speak”. At the end of the day your posting percentage says it all. That daily promise keeps it fresh in our mind and holds us accountable. Your failure to stay involved here, respond to those reaching out to you and honor your commitment put you in a position where you were able to rationalize your “addict speak”.

LetÂ’s be clear on why it happened. It happened because you failed to use the connections you had made on KTC. I know Lady G and Josey were consistently reaching out to you and I was a PMÂ’ing mosquito in your ear. I am sure there were others. You are not the only guy who works nights on this site. If you really want to make connections then you should be checking out chat before or after work to make these connections. Post your desire to have form a text group with shift workers in your intro and actually seek out some additional support. The bottom line is you drifted and at the end of the day you got separated from the herd.

I personally liked a lot of your response to what you are going to do differently. There is no “try” here and I heard a lot of that in your response, which is not good. You are either going to post roll every day or you are not. Try is just more “addict speak”. You are either going to seek out some guys on evening shifts or you are not. You are either going to take nicotine off the table in your mind or you are going to leave that door open. There simply is no try. Try is for people who fail. You need to do. I think you should continue to post support for April 2014 EDD as well as your new group. There are quitters there who are already part of that support. Get over the self-loathing and feeling sorry for your-self. You are either quit or you are not.
At this point I am supporting your efforts and will continue to support you. The rest is up to you and your effort to be a part of your new group. Follow your plan.
Thanks for reaching out yesterday with your number. Together, we are strong.

But when you are weak...you can take. That's what this place is, and that's why I love it. We're not all badass all the time. Sometimes, we struggle. We shouldn't be afraid to ask for help, and we shouldn't be expected to never ask.

We can do this. Quits aren't made when you're inspired. They're forged in bad times.
So, another Day 1, cochise?

You'd best be explaining yourself pretty quickly. This is bullshit.
Another month plus wasted with the nic bitch....WTF Cochise....you know the drill, but this shit is getting old. What's going to be different this time?