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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Blackhawks on May 31, 2013, 11:12:00 AM
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I'm 38 years old and been dipping since I was 18. I've never really given quitting a serious try until now. I am married with a 2 year old son and another son due in September and I want to be there for them. I don't want to get cancer and die in 5 years and miss their whole lives and leave them in a world of hurt without a Father and my wife having to raise the family on her own. I do this for them and I do this for me. I am choosing life over chew.
I have been preparing for this quit for the past 2 weeks. Making lists of reasons to quit and triggers and relapse prevention plans and craving logs, making schedules, purchasing snacks and candy and wall calendars and stickers and bracelets. I feel ready for this challenge. I embrace it.
Kill the Can is going to be an instrumental part of my Quit Plan. How do I find my Quit Group? Any other suggestions? Looking forward to starting my quit and getting to know you guys.
- Blackhawks
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Hello Blackhawk:
First, why tomorrow? Quit now, you are here take your can and dump it and post roll.
Welcome Center the pink link by the banner.
Quit Groups on the forum, you will be September HOF group.
Get accountable, get with the program. Get your gum your seeds your water ready. We are no nic site. Embrace the suck and get ready.
But first of course, you have to quit.
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This site can help. We don't use words like try or hope as they are just another excuse for our addictive brains to tell us another lie. There are no short cuts, but here are some links that will help you navigate this site.
This a NO NICOTINE site. End of discussion. Why this Site Works (http://www.killthecan.org/about/why.asp)
Biggest thing to do is get acquainted with this site.
Highly recommend you go here: WELCOME CENTER (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13), Getting acclimated (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7614) and What to Expect (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp)
Your quit decision MUST be 100% your decision. Anything short of that sets you up for failure by allowing your addict brain to blame a given situation as reason for you to go back to the can
You want another layer of accountability? Come post in my room every morning after you post roll in yours April 2012 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=5688&st=0)
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I'm 38 years old and been dipping since I was 18. I've never really given quitting a serious try until now. I am married with a 2 year old son and another son due in September and I want to be there for them. I don't want to get cancer and die in 5 years and miss their whole lives and leave them in a world of hurt without a Father and my wife having to raise the family on her own. I do this for them and I do this for me. I am choosing life over chew.
I have been preparing for this quit for the past 2 weeks. Making lists of reasons to quit and triggers and relapse prevention plans and craving logs, making schedules, purchasing snacks and candy and wall calendars and stickers and bracelets. I feel ready for this challenge. I embrace it.
Kill the Can is going to be an instrumental part of my Quit Plan. How do I find my Quit Group? Any other suggestions? Looking forward to starting my quit and getting to know you guys.
- Blackhawks
You don't get a quit group until you quit. I can't tell you what quit group you're in because you still have that shit in your face. Spit that shit out and dump the can - don't throw the can out - you need to open it, dump it out, then take a giant loose shit on top of it so you won't be tempted to dig it out of the trash.
How many times in your 18 years of dipping have you decided to "quit tomorrow?" Tomorrow never comes. You know that. We know that. What's going to happen tomorrow morning when you wake up and there's about a pinch-and-a-half left in that tin? You're going to take a dip because you "need to finish the can." Then you won't quit tomorrow because you already dipped... you'll quit the next day. But again, tomorrow never comes.
You want your quit group? Try the September 2019 quit group, because that's about as fucking close as I guess to when you might actually quit. Dump that shit right now. Reclaim your life right now. Be proud to kiss your wife and child right now without the smell of nicotine on your breath.
If you want to quit then do it. Now. There's absolutely NO REASON for you to keep jamming that shit in your face for another 12 hours.
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I'm 38 years old and been dipping since I was 18. I've never really given quitting a serious try until now. I am married with a 2 year old son and another son due in September and I want to be there for them. I don't want to get cancer and die in 5 years and miss their whole lives and leave them in a world of hurt without a Father and my wife having to raise the family on her own. I do this for them and I do this for me. I am choosing life over chew.
I have been preparing for this quit for the past 2 weeks. Making lists of reasons to quit and triggers and relapse prevention plans and craving logs, making schedules, purchasing snacks and candy and wall calendars and stickers and bracelets. I feel ready for this challenge. I embrace it.
Kill the Can is going to be an instrumental part of my Quit Plan. How do I find my Quit Group? Any other suggestions? Looking forward to starting my quit and getting to know you guys.
- Blackhawks
well man your quit groop is a hunnert days from your quit day so that wood be sept 2013. you can find it here (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8274)
now how bout you asplain to me wahts so speshul bout tomorow? cuz man thats one word i hate round here. cuz you no why? tomorow never gets here. any ways do you got a speshul dip planned for this afternoon what you cant miss? you ask for suggestyuns, well heres mine. dump the shit out rite now. flush that shit rite down the toylit. then you go on over to that septemember groop and post up day 1. today. cuz til you do that your playin rushin roolette and you dont no if that next chambers empty or not. and for what? so you can rememember when you quit? i rememember when i quit just fine. it was nov 13 2008. aint nothin speshul bout the day other then it was the day i quit.
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Bro... This place IS your quit plan! You sound ready... You need to be. Do it now. it's not gong to be fun but it is worth it! Get yourself up to the "Welcome Center" link in the banner at the top of the page. Everything you need to know is there including how to post roll. Your quit group will be September 13. This is the vital part of your quit... Accountability to your group that you will be nicotine free this day. One day at a time... No looking ahead... We do this one day at a time because some of those days are going to take everything you've got. Get in there and post roll right now! Give your word to them and all of us posting roll today... No. More. Nic! You need anything PM me... Glad to help anyway I can and... Proud to quit with you any/every day!!
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look it taht.. you got your first 4 responsis and gess what? no buddy likes tomorow. sack up and get to it.
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I understand the appeal about starting tomorrow. That's safe. I get it. You can still have your precious. I used to be you.
It's gonna hurt. No doubt.
You can do this.
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I was in the same boat as you yesterday. I figured, oh ill quit tomorrow...just this last can. After getting on here and talking a little....I dumped my tin in the shitter and posted roll. I'd never felt so good.
You have a great support group here, these people will give you all of the tools you need to beat this shit. You sound like your ready, so why not take the plunge and QUIT NOW!?
For a little starter reading...check this out
index.php?showtopic=7863 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7863)
It actually brought a tear to my eye. Thats some beautiful shit.
I will be proud to have you beside me in my quit group, but its exactly that, you must QUIT first.
As someone said to me yesterday...you will not have the resolve you do today, tomorrow...so sack up, and quit now.
Looking forward to talking more
- Shane
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Blackhawk,
The funny thing about tomorrow is...it may never come! How about you quit today until tomorrow... then repeat every damn day!!!! Do not leave a tempter can around the house hiding or anything like that 'finger point' . Toss it, burn it, put it on a target and shoot the fuck out of it 'Remshot' , shit on it 'flush' , and make sure you get rid of it all because that can you had stuffed away that you forgot about will one day be found and that could be your cave. Get with the program NOW!
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look it taht.. you got your first 4 responsis and gess what? no buddy likes tomorow. sack up and get to it.
Here's 5. You put a lot of thought into the quit plan. What i see is someone trying to figure out the best way to go about this quit. Your already making it harder than it needs to be.
New quit plan coming right now. Dump the can and just do it. One less problem. No more coming up with how too Quit plans. Quit now and I'll quit with you.
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Tomorrow never comes. You need to cancel the marathon dipping session you have planned for tonight and grow some balls and quit right now. Not in an hour, right fucking now.
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.....and if we are going to be "instrumental part of my Quit Plan" then start off by listening to us. Not starting on the right foot if you don't listen to us and quit right now. We know best, our method is 100% successful but you have to play by our rules.
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and 1 more thing, 3 sets of Mrs Mike's boobs fit nicely on the screen.
She wants you to quit now also
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I don't want to get cancer and die in 5 years and miss their whole lives and leave them in a world of hurt without a Father and my wife having to raise the family on her own.
What makes you think that cancer is 5 years away? Maybe it's tonight's dip, or the one that you have in right now that is mutating the cells in your cheek and/or throat. Maybe yesterday's can was the the one.
You can't change the past, but you can take some serious action at this moment and change today.
"Blackhawk", huh? You in/near Chicago? If so, give me your address and I'll head right over to dump on your precious dip and and ransack your house and car to make sure they're clean.
Well, what say you? You have gotten amazing advice here. Your call.
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I don't want to get cancer and die in 5 years and miss their whole lives and leave them in a world of hurt without a Father and my wife having to raise the family on her own.
What makes you think that cancer is 5 years away? Maybe it's tonight's dip, or the one that you have in right now that is mutating the cells in your cheek and/or throat. Maybe yesterday's can was the the one.
You can't change the past, but you can take some serious action at this moment and change today.
"Blackhawk", huh? You in/near Chicago? If so, give me your address and I'll head right over to dump on your precious dip and and ransack your house and car to make sure they're clean.
Well, what say you? You have gotten amazing advice here. Your call.
Like Evil, LOOT hopes the dip that kills you isn't the one you take between now and your quit date.
Think about it bro. What good is a marathon dip-a-thon gonna do you?
Flush it and post roll cupcake.
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I understand your apprehension, we all do. Personally, I laid with the nic bitch for 28 years, and failed to stay quit so many times I lost count....until I found this place.
You can't quit tomorrow.....or yesterday, they are irrelevant.
You can quit today.....or you can continue to roll the dice and hope it doesn't come up snake eyes. Both are decisions that only you can make.
Today is all there is my friend....now go throw away the shit, post up a day 1, and start being the man your wife and kid(s) need you to be.
Today
....oh, and don't get all lovey dovey with Evil cause of the chi-town shit...we all know the blackhawks suck ass....go pens!!!!
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I don't want to get cancer and die in 5 years and miss their whole lives and leave them in a world of hurt without a Father and my wife having to raise the family on her own.
What makes you think that cancer is 5 years away? Maybe it's tonight's dip, or the one that you have in right now that is mutating the cells in your cheek and/or throat. Maybe yesterday's can was the the one.
You can't change the past, but you can take some serious action at this moment and change today.
"Blackhawk", huh? You in/near Chicago? If so, give me your address and I'll head right over to dump on your precious dip and and ransack your house and car to make sure they're clean.
Well, what say you? You have gotten amazing advice here. Your call.
Like Evil, LOOT hopes the dip that kills you isn't the one you take between now and your quit date.
Think about it bro. What good is a marathon dip-a-thon gonna do you?
Flush it and post roll cupcake.
Your close man, really close. But your not there, and close don't mean shit. I agree with Evil, you sound ready. Keep in mind however, all the preparation in the world aint gonna make "the suck" any better. You did the crime, time to do the time. Withdrawal is painful but is not forever. Cancer on theh other hand has a way of wrecking your day. Dont wait until you are spitting teeth out or preparing for your tongue-ectomy, do this shit NOW while you have the desire to quit. That desire can be fleeting, trust me, I have "quit tomorrow" a 1000 times. You know what you gotta bro, DO IT!!!
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I don't want to get cancer and die in 5 years and miss their whole lives and leave them in a world of hurt without a Father and my wife having to raise the family on her own.
What makes you think that cancer is 5 years away? Maybe it's tonight's dip, or the one that you have in right now that is mutating the cells in your cheek and/or throat. Maybe yesterday's can was the the one.
You can't change the past, but you can take some serious action at this moment and change today.
"Blackhawk", huh? You in/near Chicago? If so, give me your address and I'll head right over to dump on your precious dip and and ransack your house and car to make sure they're clean.
Well, what say you? You have gotten amazing advice here. Your call.
Like Evil, LOOT hopes the dip that kills you isn't the one you take between now and your quit date.
Think about it bro. What good is a marathon dip-a-thon gonna do you?
Flush it and post roll cupcake.
Your close man, really close. But your not there, and close don't mean shit. I agree with Evil, you sound ready. Keep in mind however, all the preparation in the world aint gonna make "the suck" any better. You did the crime, time to do the time. Withdrawal is painful but is not forever. Cancer on theh other hand has a way of wrecking your day. Dont wait until you are spitting teeth out or preparing for your tongue-ectomy, do this shit NOW while you have the desire to quit. That desire can be fleeting, trust me, I have "quit tomorrow" a 1000 times. You know what you gotta bro, DO IT!!!
You know what's really ironic?
Loading up on a drug you are quittjng just makes your withdrawals longer. Your body doesn't start healing until the drug is out of your system. The sooner this happens, the sooner you can start recovering.
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boys we have a lurker not a quitter
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boys we have a lurker not a quitter
Yea,,, I to have noticed this cbird.
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God it pisses me off more than anything when people join the site just to say "quitting tomorrow" or "do you know what i can do to prepare myself for quitting the 1st of blah blah blah". Most the times there just trying to start shit or get in a pissing contest with some bad ass that can smell there bullshit from 3 states away. In all actuality all these douche bags are doing is wasting everyone's time and unfortunately taking time from new quitters that truly need the support.
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God it pisses me off more than anything when people join the site just to say "quitting tomorrow" or "do you know what i can do to prepare myself for quitting the 1st of blah blah blah". Most the times there just trying to start shit or get in a pissing contest with some bad ass that can smell there bullshit from 3 states away. In all actuality all these douche bags are doing is wasting everyone's time and unfortunately taking time from new quitters that truly need the support.
All they are doing is saying that the battle we fight each day isn't important TODAY. Deal with it tomorrow. Fuck that! Quit or get the fuck out! We don't hold hands here and we don't CONVINCE you to quit!
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I have been preparing for this quit for the past 2 weeks. Making lists of reasons to quit and triggers and relapse prevention plans and craving logs, making schedules, purchasing snacks and candy and wall calendars and stickers and bracelets. I feel ready for this challenge. I embrace it.
That's what I call overthinking something. That's pretty strong sauce coming from me, cause I am notorious for overthinking things..... everything. I'm an engineer by trade, so it's my nature.
Stop with the thinking and prepping. None of that cute stuff will help as much as accountability and honor. You need to dump your nicotine RIGHT NOW. Take the plunge. Then this process is simple:
1. Make us all a promise by posting roll.
2. Honor your word.
3. Get some contacts.
4. Repeat.
That shit right there works. Wall calendars and stickers ain't gonna help when that crave hits you. A KTC brother with a cell phone will.
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I think I got this down a little now, my first though was... you can prepare yourself by flushing your shit down the toilet and posting roll TODAY.
Either do that ... or the veterans here will give it to you like a pack of lions on a gazelle on the plains of Africa... deservedly of course.
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God it pisses me off more than anything when people join the site just to say "quitting tomorrow" or "do you know what i can do to prepare myself for quitting the 1st of blah blah blah". Most the times there just trying to start shit or get in a pissing contest with some bad ass that can smell there bullshit from 3 states away. In all actuality all these douche bags are doing is wasting everyone's time and unfortunately taking time from new quitters that truly need the support.
All they are doing is saying that the battle we fight each day isn't important TODAY. Deal with it tomorrow. Fuck that! Quit or get the fuck out! We don't hold hands here and we don't CONVINCE you to quit!
I will respectfully disagree. I don't think lurkers and planned quitters are saying that our daily fight isn't important today. To imply that, one would have to actually be quit, and be able to deduce and analytically compare and contrast the thousands of differences between quitters and users. They are simply not able to walk in our shoes today. Maybe they are not ready today. Only valid reasons to quit, benefits of being quit, and positive aspects of KTC have been extended to this guy. If the right thing to do is still not clear as an azure sky of deepest summer, then he's not ready and we can't do any more.
Rule #1 - gotta quit for you.
Rule #2 - never forget Day 1. LOOT never forgets Day 1
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Tomorrow's good if your talking about taking out the trash.
Not so good if you're talking about quitting your nicotine addiction.
There's only today.
It might hurt a little but I'm willing to bet your 2 year-old son knows his Daddy is tough enough to handle it. Right?
Here's an idea:
If you really want to quit tomorrow then go tell your wife and son that you're NOT strong enough to quit today. You do that first.
My guess is your son is probably right. Quit today.
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Tomorrow's good if your talking about taking out the trash.
Not so good if you're talking about quitting your nicotine addiction.
There's only today.
It might hurt a little but I'm willing to bet your 2 year-old son knows his Daddy is tough enough to handle it. Right?
Here's an idea:
If you really want to quit tomorrow then go tell your wife and son that you're NOT strong enough to quit today. You do that first.
My guess is your son is probably right. Quit today.
I see you black hawks. Lets just do it. Screw it. You got Nothin to lose and more to gain than you know. Post roll and lets go to battle.
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Wow....not exactly the warm welcome I was expecting. People offering to ransack my house and telling me to get the fuck out of here because I haven't quit yet. Very Nice. Maybe I should have just posted tomorrow on Day 1 or maybe this isn't the right community for me to join as I begin my Quit Tomorrow.
Other people are mocking the steps I have taken as I have been preparing for my Quit. I have attempted to Quit numerous times in the past and it has never worked for me. I have never taken any Past Quit Attempt seriously though. (AKA - I have never joined a Quit Group and posted roll, never wrote down triggers or planned for them, never kept a craving log, never seriously thought about and wrote down reasons to quit, never made a relapse prevention plan or bought a wall calender to check off the days, never prepared a daily quit schedule to follow, never prepared a tapering off schedule over 2 weeks leading up to the quit and I have been down to 1 a day now, never thought of ways to involve my spouse, etc.). This time, I have meticulously done all these things over the past 2 weeks in preparation for tomorrow's quit because I want "This Time" to be the last time. I want "This Time" to work.
It sounds like most of you woke-up one day, randomly decided to quit, threw out your stash and never looked back. My most sincere congratulations to you! You are better and stronger men than I. I'm sure you have bigger dicks than me too. Why don't you come to my house and kick my ass and fuck my wife? I have tried the wake-up and quit approach and failed too many times. This time, I am over-thinking it and over-preparing because my family deserves my best effort and my full concentration and focus on this task.
I apologize if I offended anyone. I will leave if that is what people want because I posted too soon or if my over-thinking it and too cute approach is not acceptable.
And yes, I am from Chicago where the Blackhawks reign supreme.
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Wow....not exactly the warm welcome I was expecting. People offering to ransack my house and telling me to get the fuck out of here because I haven't quit yet. Very Nice. Maybe I should have just posted tomorrow on Day 1 or maybe this isn't the right community for me to join as I begin my Quit Tomorrow.
Other people are mocking the steps I have taken as I have been preparing for my Quit. I have attempted to Quit numerous times in the past and it has never worked for me. I have never taken any Past Quit Attempt seriously though. (AKA - I have never joined a Quit Group and posted roll, never wrote down triggers or planned for them, never kept a craving log, never seriously thought about and wrote down reasons to quit, never made a relapse prevention plan or bought a wall calender to check off the days, never prepared a daily quit schedule to follow, never prepared a tapering off schedule over 2 weeks leading up to the quit and I have been down to 1 a day now, never thought of ways to involve my spouse, etc.). This time, I have meticulously done all these things over the past 2 weeks in preparation for tomorrow's quit because I want "This Time" to be the last time. I want "This Time" to work.
It sounds like most of you woke-up one day, randomly decided to quit, threw out your stash and never looked back. My most sincere congratulations to you! You are better and stronger men than I. I'm sure you have bigger dicks than me too. Why don't you come to my house and kick my ass and fuck my wife? I have tried the wake-up and quit approach and failed too many times. This time, I am over-thinking it and over-preparing because my family deserves my best effort and my full concentration and focus on this task.
I apologize if I offended anyone. I will leave if that is what people want because I posted too soon or if my over-thinking it and too cute approach is not acceptable.
And yes, I am from Chicago where the Blackhawks reign supreme.
You sound very serious and committed. Now just give your word. I've heard it said many times that it is simple. You are scared of failing. You are planning way ahead. Just post roll and promise for TODAY. Just today.
No one wants you to leave. This is life and death. Just make your promise.
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Wow....not exactly the warm welcome I was expecting. People offering to ransack my house and telling me to get the fuck out of here because I haven't quit yet. Very Nice. Maybe I should have just posted tomorrow on Day 1 or maybe this isn't the right community for me to join as I begin my Quit Tomorrow.
Other people are mocking the steps I have taken as I have been preparing for my Quit. I have attempted to Quit numerous times in the past and it has never worked for me. I have never taken any Past Quit Attempt seriously though. (AKA - I have never joined a Quit Group and posted roll, never wrote down triggers or planned for them, never kept a craving log, never seriously thought about and wrote down reasons to quit, never made a relapse prevention plan or bought a wall calender to check off the days, never prepared a daily quit schedule to follow, never prepared a tapering off schedule over 2 weeks leading up to the quit and I have been down to 1 a day now, never thought of ways to involve my spouse, etc.). This time, I have meticulously done all these things over the past 2 weeks in preparation for tomorrow's quit because I want "This Time" to be the last time. I want "This Time" to work.
It sounds like most of you woke-up one day, randomly decided to quit, threw out your stash and never looked back. My most sincere congratulations to you! You are better and stronger men than I. I'm sure you have bigger dicks than me too. Why don't you come to my house and kick my ass and fuck my wife? I have tried the wake-up and quit approach and failed too many times. This time, I am over-thinking it and over-preparing because my family deserves my best effort and my full concentration and focus on this task.Â
I apologize if I offended anyone. I will leave if that is what people want because I posted too soon or if my over-thinking it and too cute approach is not acceptable.
And yes, I am from Chicago where the Blackhawks reign supreme.
You sound very serious and committed. Now just give your word. I've heard it said many times that it is simple. You are scared of failing. You are planning way ahead. Just post roll and promise for TODAY. Just today.
No one wants you to leave. This is life and death. Just make your promise.
So your not quitting today?
I am sure your previous attempts included a planned quit date. Looks like your way does not work. You came here for help now take the help and advice given and do it our way. What do you have to loose?
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Blackhawks - I'm a noob here myself so I can't offer a ton of sage advice like many here.
All I can say is that you and I are both addicts. I'm not judging you, in many important ways I'm just like you. I do know that nicotine has you by the balls right now as I type this. Can you man up, and flush that shit in the toilet, right now ... seriously... and go post roll?
It may seem a little harsh, but people care enough here to actually lay it out for you. The fact is you have an addiction problem and everyone here is trying to help.
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I'm a noob here myself so I can't offer a ton of sage advice like many here.
All I can say is that you and I are both addicts. I'm not judging you, in many important ways I'm just like you. I do know that nicotine has you by the balls right now as I type this. Can you man up, and flush that shit in the toilet, right now ... seriously... and go post roll?
It may seem a little harsh, but people care enough here to actually lay it out for you. The fact is you have an addiction problem and everyone here is trying to help.
Hey, I'm still a single digit quitter but I don't think that matters. Because I gave my WORD. And tomorrow I will wake up and do it again. So I don't have to be sage or an old timer. Just true to my word. And that, I can do.
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Wow....not exactly the warm welcome I was expecting. People offering to ransack my house and telling me to get the fuck out of here because I haven't quit yet. Very Nice. Maybe I should have just posted tomorrow on Day 1 or maybe this isn't the right community for me to join as I begin my Quit Tomorrow.
Other people are mocking the steps I have taken as I have been preparing for my Quit. I have attempted to Quit numerous times in the past and it has never worked for me. I have never taken any Past Quit Attempt seriously though. (AKA - I have never joined a Quit Group and posted roll, never wrote down triggers or planned for them, never kept a craving log, never seriously thought about and wrote down reasons to quit, never made a relapse prevention plan or bought a wall calender to check off the days, never prepared a daily quit schedule to follow, never prepared a tapering off schedule over 2 weeks leading up to the quit and I have been down to 1 a day now, never thought of ways to involve my spouse, etc.). This time, I have meticulously done all these things over the past 2 weeks in preparation for tomorrow's quit because I want "This Time" to be the last time. I want "This Time" to work.
It sounds like most of you woke-up one day, randomly decided to quit, threw out your stash and never looked back. My most sincere congratulations to you! You are better and stronger men than I. I'm sure you have bigger dicks than me too. Why don't you come to my house and kick my ass and fuck my wife? I have tried the wake-up and quit approach and failed too many times. This time, I am over-thinking it and over-preparing because my family deserves my best effort and my full concentration and focus on this task.Â
I apologize if I offended anyone. I will leave if that is what people want because I posted too soon or if my over-thinking it and too cute approach is not acceptable.
And yes, I am from Chicago where the Blackhawks reign supreme.
You sound very serious and committed. Now just give your word. I've heard it said many times that it is simple. You are scared of failing. You are planning way ahead. Just post roll and promise for TODAY. Just today.
No one wants you to leave. This is life and death. Just make your promise.
So your not quitting today?
I am sure your previous attempts included a planned quit date. Looks like your way does not work. You came here for help now take the help and advice given and do it our way. What do you have to loose?
don't get all butt hurt - we're all addicts here and being on this side of the argument, we see you not taking a definitive stand against nicotine. The nic bitch made us lie, cheat and steal from everyone we know so we're trying to get you to step up and start today -
like several have said today - what if that dip you're taking today is the one that ends your life?
Flush it and post already
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Wow....not exactly the warm welcome I was expecting. People offering to ransack my house and telling me to get the fuck out of here because I haven't quit yet. Very Nice. Maybe I should have just posted tomorrow on Day 1 or maybe this isn't the right community for me to join as I begin my Quit Tomorrow.
Other people are mocking the steps I have taken as I have been preparing for my Quit. I have attempted to Quit numerous times in the past and it has never worked for me. I have never taken any Past Quit Attempt seriously though. (AKA - I have never joined a Quit Group and posted roll, never wrote down triggers or planned for them, never kept a craving log, never seriously thought about and wrote down reasons to quit, never made a relapse prevention plan or bought a wall calender to check off the days, never prepared a daily quit schedule to follow, never prepared a tapering off schedule over 2 weeks leading up to the quit and I have been down to 1 a day now, never thought of ways to involve my spouse, etc.). This time, I have meticulously done all these things over the past 2 weeks in preparation for tomorrow's quit because I want "This Time" to be the last time. I want "This Time" to work.
It sounds like most of you woke-up one day, randomly decided to quit, threw out your stash and never looked back. My most sincere congratulations to you! You are better and stronger men than I. I'm sure you have bigger dicks than me too. Why don't you come to my house and kick my ass and fuck my wife? I have tried the wake-up and quit approach and failed too many times. This time, I am over-thinking it and over-preparing because my family deserves my best effort and my full concentration and focus on this task.Â
I apologize if I offended anyone. I will leave if that is what people want because I posted too soon or if my over-thinking it and too cute approach is not acceptable.
And yes, I am from Chicago where the Blackhawks reign supreme.
You sound very serious and committed. Now just give your word. I've heard it said many times that it is simple. You are scared of failing. You are planning way ahead. Just post roll and promise for TODAY. Just today.
No one wants you to leave. This is life and death. Just make your promise.
So your not quitting today?
I am sure your previous attempts included a planned quit date. Looks like your way does not work. You came here for help now take the help and advice given and do it our way. What do you have to loose?
I haven't read back to see what all advice you've been given, but Mike is exactly right. Why give nicotine one more day of control over you? Dump the can right this second, post a day one and let the healing begin. When it comes down to it, there is no reason to ever use nicotine again. Period. To a using addict, "I need to plan this out" sounds like a rational idea. To a recovering addict, it sounds like what it is...an excuse to keep using the drug you're addicted to.
Also, you can't quit for your family. You will resent them later. You quit for you. You quit because you're selfish and you want to be there to see your kids grow up.
Also, no reason to use phrases like "best effort." You either quit or don't quit. If you take the attitude that this is hard, but you're going to give a go, you'll be setting yourself up for an excuse to fail. When you quit, you gotta make the decision that there ain't nothin' in this world that could make you ever ingest nicotine again. You gotta beg for it to suck real bad so you'll remember how hard it is and never want to go through it again. And, as you already know...it's hard. Ain't no doubt about it. But it is possible. We've all done it. We aren't less addicted than you. I was a can or more a day for 17 years. Many folks here used two to three cans a day. They did it, too. They followed the plan.
What do you gain by waiting until tomorrow to quit? One more night sucking on a cancerous weed? There is no such thing as one last magical dip that will satisfy you for eternity and make quitting easier. All you're doing by not quitting right this second is continuing to stave off nicotine withdrawal for a few more hours.
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Wow....not exactly the warm welcome I was expecting. People offering to ransack my house and telling me to get the fuck out of here because I haven't quit yet. Very Nice. Maybe I should have just posted tomorrow on Day 1 or maybe this isn't the right community for me to join as I begin my Quit Tomorrow.
Other people are mocking the steps I have taken as I have been preparing for my Quit. I have attempted to Quit numerous times in the past and it has never worked for me. I have never taken any Past Quit Attempt seriously though. (AKA - I have never joined a Quit Group and posted roll, never wrote down triggers or planned for them, never kept a craving log, never seriously thought about and wrote down reasons to quit, never made a relapse prevention plan or bought a wall calender to check off the days, never prepared a daily quit schedule to follow, never prepared a tapering off schedule over 2 weeks leading up to the quit and I have been down to 1 a day now, never thought of ways to involve my spouse, etc.). This time, I have meticulously done all these things over the past 2 weeks in preparation for tomorrow's quit because I want "This Time" to be the last time. I want "This Time" to work.
It sounds like most of you woke-up one day, randomly decided to quit, threw out your stash and never looked back. My most sincere congratulations to you! You are better and stronger men than I. I'm sure you have bigger dicks than me too. Why don't you come to my house and kick my ass and fuck my wife? I have tried the wake-up and quit approach and failed too many times. This time, I am over-thinking it and over-preparing because my family deserves my best effort and my full concentration and focus on this task.Â
I apologize if I offended anyone. I will leave if that is what people want because I posted too soon or if my over-thinking it and too cute approach is not acceptable.
And yes, I am from Chicago where the Blackhawks reign supreme.
You sound very serious and committed. Now just give your word. I've heard it said many times that it is simple. You are scared of failing. You are planning way ahead. Just post roll and promise for TODAY. Just today.
No one wants you to leave. This is life and death. Just make your promise.
So your not quitting today?
I am sure your previous attempts included a planned quit date. Looks like your way does not work. You came here for help now take the help and advice given and do it our way. What do you have to loose?
don't get all butt hurt - we're all addicts here and being on this side of the argument, we see you not taking a definitive stand against nicotine. The nic bitch made us lie, cheat and steal from everyone we know so we're trying to get you to step up and start today -
like several have said today - what if that dip you're taking today is the one that ends your life?
Flush it and post already
You have done everything you can to avoid actually quitting.
What is holding you back? You clearly have made up your mind that you WANT to quit, but you are afraid of what you will be without your crutch.
Let me assure you, we ALL were right where you are. That next dip will not be any better than the last one. You will not be missing that magical dip that makes the whites whiter and the colors more colorful.
Let me guarantee you a few things that will happen if you decide to sack up, post roll, and quit NOW:
1) It will suck and you will hate life, but that wont change if you quit now or tomorrow or next month.
2) you will be that much closer to having the poison out of your system (~36 hours)
3) You will stop worrying about how to try quitting. You will be quit because you are a man of your word, and that is ALL you need to be quit once you put your name on the line.
4) you will be able to look your kids and wife in the eyes and tell them you dont do that shit anymore and mean it.
5) You will see more support in this quit than you could ever imagine.
6) You will have access to a support network of 14000+ quitters with hundreds of thousands of days of experience.
7) You will get numbers from folks with 1000's of days and 2 minutes of quit, who will text, call and email you to support each other.
8) You will realize you are not some special butterfly with a unique relationship to tobacco, but just another nicotine junkie breaking the bond of slavery.
Most importantly I guarantee you will NEVER regret putting the can down RIGHT NOW, flushing every nicotine product, and posting roll. Anything other than that is just talk. You asked for input, here it is.
1) flush.
2) post.
3) embrace the suck.
Do yourself a favor and stop putting off to tomorrow what should be done today. If you arent ready, go read the Jenny Kern or Randy White stories in our Words of Wisdom section then come back and see steps 1-3 above.
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I'm 38 years old and been dipping since I was 18. I've never really given quitting a serious try until now. I am married with a 2 year old son and another son due in September and I want to be there for them. I don't want to get cancer and die in 5 years and miss their whole lives and leave them in a world of hurt without a Father and my wife having to raise the family on her own. I do this for them and I do this for me. I am choosing life over chew.
I have been preparing for this quit for the past 2 weeks. Making lists of reasons to quit and triggers and relapse prevention plans and craving logs, making schedules, purchasing snacks and candy and wall calendars and stickers and bracelets. I feel ready for this challenge. I embrace it.
Kill the Can is going to be an instrumental part of my Quit Plan. How do I find my Quit Group? Any other suggestions? Looking forward to starting my quit and getting to know you guys.
- Blackhawks
Why put it off ??
nike said "Just Do it"
There is no middle ground with the can, I found that every time i said tomorrow, it would be a year later ..
I am QUIT today, for the last 25 days. It is a bitch for about a week and then you move on with life.
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Blackhawk,
The funny thing about tomorrow is...it may never come! How about you quit today until tomorrow... then repeat every damn day!!!! Do not leave a tempter can around the house hiding or anything like that 'finger point' . Toss it, burn it, put it on a target and shoot the fuck out of it 'Remshot' , shit on it 'flush' , and make sure you get rid of it all because that can you had stuffed away that you forgot about will one day be found and that could be your cave. Get with the program NOW!
I laughed my ass off when you said break in my house beat my ass and fuck my wife. Come on man, nobody here is that bad ass or fucked up to pull that off. Just nut up and take the pledge. Toss all the clipboards and different colored highlighters, all you need is this site and all the brothers you will gain when making that first promise to all of us...I double dog dare you 'na na'
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It sounds like most of you woke-up one day, randomly decided to quit, threw out your stash and never looked back.
Can only speak for myself and no, it wasn't that random. I went for the regular 6 monthly dental check-up and cleaning. Each time I feared that I would get the announcement that I had cancer. I was convinced each cleaning would result in "the" day, it wasn't. My dipping was never mentioned.
It wasn't until my appointment on 10/10/12, a day that I felt fucking great. Mouth, teeth, gums and everything else felt great. Cancer? No way. Guess what? That was the day my dentist told me he saw "cellular changes", that it "didn't look good at all", etc.
I had wanted to quit every day for 15 of the 16 years that I dipped. Truth was I wasn't ready to be "man enough" and fight like never before. I too have a wife and 2 girls (5 and 7) and feared for their futures every day. I was weak then.
Well, my dentist scared the fuck out of me that day. I sat shell-shocked in my car for quite a bit. Didn't cry, didn't ask "why me". I knew the day was coming and that day was 10/10/12. It was no surprise. Thankfully, I was then scared enough to quit and even went back to the denstist for a cancer screening after hitting the HOF and as my dentist said, "looks normal, it's amazing how the body can heal itself". I was lucky. Turns out that cdaniels was lucky too but he had you have a chunk of his tongue cut out and examined. Ready for a dose of reality? Read THIS (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7450). Just scroll down a few pages to get to the part where he talks about feeling the amount of blood pouring out of his tongue as they cut and the ensuing panic attack.
Did I celebrate missing cancer by throwing in a fatty? No, but I honestly wanted to. But I can't. I'm an addict. Was then, am today, and will be tomorrow. That's the sad truth. Do what you want, when you want. Find the final motivation that will push you to quit or don't. Your fate. Your decision.
I will alter my offer. If you'd like to meet for a beer or two and discuss this addiction thing in person, let me know. Check your inbox (1) for my number. Sometimes meeting someone face to face that has been in your exact situation and understands can help a great deal. I'm on the west side. Where are you?
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Wow....not exactly the warm welcome I was expecting. People offering to ransack my house and telling me to get the fuck out of here because I haven't quit yet. Very Nice. Maybe I should have just posted tomorrow on Day 1 or maybe this isn't the right community for me to join as I begin my Quit Tomorrow.
Other people are mocking the steps I have taken as I have been preparing for my Quit. I have attempted to Quit numerous times in the past and it has never worked for me. I have never taken any Past Quit Attempt seriously though. (AKA - I have never joined a Quit Group and posted roll, never wrote down triggers or planned for them, never kept a craving log, never seriously thought about and wrote down reasons to quit, never made a relapse prevention plan or bought a wall calender to check off the days, never prepared a daily quit schedule to follow, never prepared a tapering off schedule over 2 weeks leading up to the quit and I have been down to 1 a day now, never thought of ways to involve my spouse, etc.). This time, I have meticulously done all these things over the past 2 weeks in preparation for tomorrow's quit because I want "This Time" to be the last time. I want "This Time" to work.
It sounds like most of you woke-up one day, randomly decided to quit, threw out your stash and never looked back. My most sincere congratulations to you! You are better and stronger men than I. I'm sure you have bigger dicks than me too. Why don't you come to my house and kick my ass and fuck my wife? I have tried the wake-up and quit approach and failed too many times. This time, I am over-thinking it and over-preparing because my family deserves my best effort and my full concentration and focus on this task.
I apologize if I offended anyone. I will leave if that is what people want because I posted too soon or if my over-thinking it and too cute approach is not acceptable.
And yes, I am from Chicago where the Blackhawks reign supreme.
Blackhawk, I felt exactly like that at 1st, but the truth is, we only quit when we throw the can out,
There is no half way with Nicotine. It is an all or nothing event.
If you want to quit it is as simple as throwing that last dribble in the toilet and pitching the can in the trash.
People are pretty direct here. and at times to the point of seeming offensive. They do so because they know it is a life or death deal.
YOU want to be free of Nicotine YOU make the choice. Don't say tomorrow. Tomorrow never arrives..
Say TODAY.
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It sounds like most of you woke-up one day, randomly decided to quit, threw out your stash and never looked back.
Can only speak for myself and no, it wasn't that random. I went for the regular 6 monthly dental check-up and cleaning. Each time I feared that I would get the announcement that I had cancer. I was convinced each cleaning would result in "the" day, it wasn't. My dipping was never mentioned.
It wasn't until my appointment on 10/10/12, a day that I felt fucking great. Mouth, teeth, gums and everything else felt great. Cancer? No way. Guess what? That was the day my dentist told me he saw "cellular changes", that it "didn't look good at all", etc.
I had wanted to quit every day for 15 of the 16 years that I dipped. Truth was I wasn't ready to be "man enough" and fight like never before. I too have a wife and 2 girls (5 and 7) and feared for their futures every day. I was weak then.
Well, my dentist scared the fuck out of me that day. I sat shell-shocked in my car for quite a bit. Didn't cry, didn't ask "why me". I knew the day was coming and that day was 10/10/12. It was no surprise. Thankfully, I was then scared enough to quit and even went back to the denstist for a cancer screening after hitting the HOF and as my dentist said, "looks normal, it's amazing how the body can heal itself". I was lucky. Turns out that cdaniels was lucky too but he had you have a chunk of his tongue cut out and examined. Ready for a dose of reality? Read THIS (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7450). Just scroll down a few pages to get to the part where he talks about feeling the amount of blood pouring out of his tongue as they cut and the ensuing panic attack.
Did I celebrate missing cancer by throwing in a fatty? No, but I honestly wanted to. But I can't. I'm an addict. Was then, am today, and will be tomorrow. That's the sad truth. Do what you want, when you want. Find the final motivation that will push you to quit or don't. Your fate. Your decision.
I will alter my offer. If you'd like to meet for a beer or two and discuss this addiction thing in person, let me know. Check your inbox (1) for my number. Sometimes meeting someone face to face that has been in your exact situation and understands can help a great deal. I'm on the west side. Where are you?
'Popcorn'
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It sounds like most of you woke-up one day, randomly decided to quit, threw out your stash and never looked back.
Can only speak for myself and no, it wasn't that random. I went for the regular 6 monthly dental check-up and cleaning. Each time I feared that I would get the announcement that I had cancer. I was convinced each cleaning would result in "the" day, it wasn't. My dipping was never mentioned.
It wasn't until my appointment on 10/10/12, a day that I felt fucking great. Mouth, teeth, gums and everything else felt great. Cancer? No way. Guess what? That was the day my dentist told me he saw "cellular changes", that it "didn't look good at all", etc.
I had wanted to quit every day for 15 of the 16 years that I dipped. Truth was I wasn't ready to be "man enough" and fight like never before. I too have a wife and 2 girls (5 and 7) and feared for their futures every day. I was weak then.
Well, my dentist scared the fuck out of me that day. I sat shell-shocked in my car for quite a bit. Didn't cry, didn't ask "why me". I knew the day was coming and that day was 10/10/12. It was no surprise. Thankfully, I was then scared enough to quit and even went back to the denstist for a cancer screening after hitting the HOF and as my dentist said, "looks normal, it's amazing how the body can heal itself". I was lucky. Turns out that cdaniels was lucky too but he had you have a chunk of his tongue cut out and examined. Ready for a dose of reality? Read THIS (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7450). Just scroll down a few pages to get to the part where he talks about feeling the amount of blood pouring out of his tongue as they cut and the ensuing panic attack.
Did I celebrate missing cancer by throwing in a fatty? No, but I honestly wanted to. But I can't. I'm an addict. Was then, am today, and will be tomorrow. That's the sad truth. Do what you want, when you want. Find the final motivation that will push you to quit or don't. Your fate. Your decision.
I will alter my offer. If you'd like to meet for a beer or two and discuss this addiction thing in person, let me know. Check your inbox (1) for my number. Sometimes meeting someone face to face that has been in your exact situation and understands can help a great deal. I'm on the west side. Where are you?
I wish you were in NY. I would have and still would meet someone who cared enough to tell me the way it is in person!
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I love how much you have planned for tomorrow. I just hope tomorrow comes and I see you post roll! I will be looking! For me planning never worked. It took me till the day that I say white lesions in my mouth to quit. The doc said it looks like Cancer. I had tests done and it wasn't. Thank God. I will not temp fate again. I am quit! Don't wait till the day that your wife has to sit through a test with you, like mine did! It was sad. I was a scared little boy who wanted his mommy. But she couldn't help me..... I had put this wheel in motion! Still chokes me up to think about!
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It sounds like most of you woke-up one day, randomly decided to quit, threw out your stash and never looked back.
Can only speak for myself and no, it wasn't that random. I went for the regular 6 monthly dental check-up and cleaning. Each time I feared that I would get the announcement that I had cancer. I was convinced each cleaning would result in "the" day, it wasn't. My dipping was never mentioned.
It wasn't until my appointment on 10/10/12, a day that I felt fucking great. Mouth, teeth, gums and everything else felt great. Cancer? No way. Guess what? That was the day my dentist told me he saw "cellular changes", that it "didn't look good at all", etc.
I had wanted to quit every day for 15 of the 16 years that I dipped. Truth was I wasn't ready to be "man enough" and fight like never before. I too have a wife and 2 girls (5 and 7) and feared for their futures every day. I was weak then.
Well, my dentist scared the fuck out of me that day. I sat shell-shocked in my car for quite a bit. Didn't cry, didn't ask "why me". I knew the day was coming and that day was 10/10/12. It was no surprise. Thankfully, I was then scared enough to quit and even went back to the denstist for a cancer screening after hitting the HOF and as my dentist said, "looks normal, it's amazing how the body can heal itself". I was lucky. Turns out that cdaniels was lucky too but he had you have a chunk of his tongue cut out and examined. Ready for a dose of reality? Read THIS (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7450). Just scroll down a few pages to get to the part where he talks about feeling the amount of blood pouring out of his tongue as they cut and the ensuing panic attack.
Did I celebrate missing cancer by throwing in a fatty? No, but I honestly wanted to. But I can't. I'm an addict. Was then, am today, and will be tomorrow. That's the sad truth. Do what you want, when you want. Find the final motivation that will push you to quit or don't. Your fate. Your decision.
I will alter my offer. If you'd like to meet for a beer or two and discuss this addiction thing in person, let me know. Check your inbox (1) for my number. Sometimes meeting someone face to face that has been in your exact situation and understands can help a great deal. I'm on the west side. Where are you?
I wish you were in NY. I would have and still would meet someone who cared enough to tell me the way it is in person!
It sounds to me like a lot of people really care about you blackhawks. People that don't even know you personally. Sounds to me like your in the right place when you do decide to quit that poison.
You have to understand,, You came In here today with the poison in your lip. Not one person that has gave you advise likes that stuff you are using. If you are using one more day it is to long for us. We hate it so bad we despise it. It's taken our money, freedom, integrity and was slowly killing us. It is doing the same to you my friend. Look at yourself man! It's got you making calenders, plans,plans and more plans. It's got you scared to take that step... It doesn't want you to take that step and realize it's a big lie. The poison will try and talk you out of quitting every step of the way. SO FAR NICOTINE IS IN CONTROL OF YOU,,,, NOT YOU!!!!
To be fare let me make a list of the good things that nicotine does on a daily basis.
Sorry,, I got nothing! You post roll today, tomorrow, whenever your plan allows and I'll quit with you my friend.
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It sounds like most of you woke-up one day, randomly decided to quit, threw out your stash and never looked back.
Can only speak for myself and no, it wasn't that random. I went for the regular 6 monthly dental check-up and cleaning. Each time I feared that I would get the announcement that I had cancer. I was convinced each cleaning would result in "the" day, it wasn't. My dipping was never mentioned.
It wasn't until my appointment on 10/10/12, a day that I felt fucking great. Mouth, teeth, gums and everything else felt great. Cancer? No way. Guess what? That was the day my dentist told me he saw "cellular changes", that it "didn't look good at all", etc.
I had wanted to quit every day for 15 of the 16 years that I dipped. Truth was I wasn't ready to be "man enough" and fight like never before. I too have a wife and 2 girls (5 and 7) and feared for their futures every day. I was weak then.
Well, my dentist scared the fuck out of me that day. I sat shell-shocked in my car for quite a bit. Didn't cry, didn't ask "why me". I knew the day was coming and that day was 10/10/12. It was no surprise. Thankfully, I was then scared enough to quit and even went back to the denstist for a cancer screening after hitting the HOF and as my dentist said, "looks normal, it's amazing how the body can heal itself". I was lucky. Turns out that cdaniels was lucky too but he had you have a chunk of his tongue cut out and examined. Ready for a dose of reality? Read THIS (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7450). Just scroll down a few pages to get to the part where he talks about feeling the amount of blood pouring out of his tongue as they cut and the ensuing panic attack.
Did I celebrate missing cancer by throwing in a fatty? No, but I honestly wanted to. But I can't. I'm an addict. Was then, am today, and will be tomorrow. That's the sad truth. Do what you want, when you want. Find the final motivation that will push you to quit or don't. Your fate. Your decision.
I will alter my offer. If you'd like to meet for a beer or two and discuss this addiction thing in person, let me know. Check your inbox (1) for my number. Sometimes meeting someone face to face that has been in your exact situation and understands can help a great deal. I'm on the west side. Where are you?
I wish you were in NY. I would have and still would meet someone who cared enough to tell me the way it is in person!
It sounds to me like a lot of people really care about you blackhawks. People that don't even know you personally. Sounds to me like your in the right place when you do decide to quit that poison.
You have to understand,, You came In here today with the poison in your lip. Not one person that has gave you advise likes that stuff you are using. If you are using one more day it is to long for us. We hate it so bad we despise it. It's taken our money, freedom, integrity and was slowly killing us. It is doing the same to you my friend. Look at yourself man! It's got you making calenders, plans,plans and more plans. It's got you scared to take that step... It doesn't want you to take that step and realize it's a big lie. The poison will try and talk you out of quitting every step of the way. SO FAR NICOTINE IS IN CONTROL OF YOU,,,, NOT YOU!!!!
To be fare let me make a list of the good things that nicotine does on a daily basis.
Sorry,, I got nothing! You post roll today, tomorrow, whenever your plan allows and I'll quit with you my friend.
FUCK YES!!!!! I'M FIRED UP RIGHT NOW!
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Wow....not exactly the warm welcome I was expecting. People offering to ransack my house and telling me to get the fuck out of here because I haven't quit yet. Very Nice. Maybe I should have just posted tomorrow on Day 1 or maybe this isn't the right community for me to join as I begin my Quit Tomorrow.
Other people are mocking the steps I have taken as I have been preparing for my Quit. I have attempted to Quit numerous times in the past and it has never worked for me. I have never taken any Past Quit Attempt seriously though. (AKA - I have never joined a Quit Group and posted roll, never wrote down triggers or planned for them, never kept a craving log, never seriously thought about and wrote down reasons to quit, never made a relapse prevention plan or bought a wall calender to check off the days, never prepared a daily quit schedule to follow, never prepared a tapering off schedule over 2 weeks leading up to the quit and I have been down to 1 a day now, never thought of ways to involve my spouse, etc.). This time, I have meticulously done all these things over the past 2 weeks in preparation for tomorrow's quit because I want "This Time" to be the last time. I want "This Time" to work.
It sounds like most of you woke-up one day, randomly decided to quit, threw out your stash and never looked back. My most sincere congratulations to you! You are better and stronger men than I. I'm sure you have bigger dicks than me too. Why don't you come to my house and kick my ass and fuck my wife? I have tried the wake-up and quit approach and failed too many times. This time, I am over-thinking it and over-preparing because my family deserves my best effort and my full concentration and focus on this task.Â
I apologize if I offended anyone. I will leave if that is what people want because I posted too soon or if my over-thinking it and too cute approach is not acceptable.
And yes, I am from Chicago where the Blackhawks reign supreme.
"Wow....not exactly the warm welcome I was expecting."
what exactly were you expecting? Just curious. Were you expecting us quitters to do it your way? Think about that.
"People offering to ransack my house"
I read what he wrote and that's not what he said. Evil Won was offering to come over and help you get rid of all of your stashes making sure you don't have any cans left.
"telling me to get the fuck out of here because I haven't quit yet."
Is that truly what you heard? Read through it all again
"Very Nice."
I could understand if you were quit and in the fog/rage. But your're not. So now you're just being an ass.
"maybe this isn't the right community for me to join as I begin my Quit Tomorrow."
You may have a point here. Seriously, if you are going to get this butt hurt over people, complete strangers, tripping all over themselves to help you quit, then you may not have what it takes to be here and be a quitter. "This takes commitment, effort, accountability and to be honest....blood, guts and nuts." - redtrain14
"Other people are mocking the steps I have taken as I have been preparing for my Quit."
Lighten up Francis
" I have attempted to Quit numerous times in the past and it has never worked for me."
Forehead slap. Then try our way. If it doesn't work out, then call us assholes.
"I have never taken any Past Quit Attempt seriously though."
We do. listen. You may learn what it takes from those who are quit
" (AKA - I have never joined a Quit Group and posted roll, never wrote down triggers or planned for them, never kept a craving log, never seriously thought about and wrote down reasons to quit, never made a relapse prevention plan or bought a wall calender to check off the days, never prepared a daily quit schedule to follow, never prepared a tapering off schedule over 2 weeks leading up to the quit and I have been down to 1 a day now, never thought of ways to involve my spouse, etc.). This time, I have meticulously done all these things over the past 2 weeks in preparation for tomorrow's quit because I want "This Time" to be the last time. I want "This Time" to work."
Relax. What's done is done. Your way doesn't work or you wouldn't be here. Try our way.
"It sounds like most of you woke-up one day, randomly decided to quit, threw out your stash and never looked back. My most sincere congratulations to you! You are better and stronger men than I. I'm sure you have bigger dicks than me too. Why don't you come to my house and kick my ass and fuck my wife? I have tried the wake-up and quit approach and failed too many times. This time, I am over-thinking it and over-preparing because my family deserves my best effort and my full concentration and focus on this task."
Taking things personally will not serve your quit. Embrace those who are attempting to help you. Read, think about what is written.
"I will leave if that is what people want because I posted too soon or if my over-thinking it and too cute approach is not acceptable."
Most of us can smell this for what it is
Look Jackass, You are not special. You want to quit, listen to these fine quitters. Accept that they are trying to help you. They are not getting paid. They are using their own time to reach out and help you. They are not trying to hurt your feelings or get you to leave. Jimminy damn christmas dude, are you that full of yourself. Take a damn breath and try to comprehend what is happening here.
Post roll giving your word of honor that you will not use nicotine in any way, shape or form today.
Keep your word.
The rest will work itself out.
We will help, if you let us.
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You got four pages of these guys posted their support for you on day 0, even if it didn't feel like support. Imagine that support when you want to eat Black Kow mulch at about day 8. I'd say you're in the perfect place.
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First off, I'm from Detroit, we just choked away 3-1 series lead to your squad. Fuck!!!!
Tomorrow. I am going on a diet and losing some lbs. I have all my cookbooks and nutritional charts out, my workouts all penciled in, my veggies ready for the juicer, my deal-a-meal cards, and my P90X AND Insanity dvds ready to rock and roll.
Wait...
Tomorrow is Saturday. I can't start a diet on Saturday. Its the weekend. I'm going golfing, I gotta throw down some brewskis with the boys and scarf down grimace proportions of bar food after. Then I gotta get my nap on, wake up, hit the clubs, get but ass wasted and end the night face down in a heap of white castle and then sleep it all off Sunday and wrap up a great weekend with a pie from Tony Pizzolis .
Ill start my diet Monday. It will be easier that way.
(This is actually shit I've personally said and done. I'm still a lot of lbs overweight. I'm gonna start Monday though...)
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First off, I'm from Detroit, we just choked away 3-1 series lead to your squad. Fuck!!!!
Tomorrow. I am going on a diet and losing some lbs. I have all my cookbooks and nutritional charts out, my workouts all penciled in, my veggies ready for the juicer, my deal-a-meal cards, and my P90X AND Insanity dvds ready to rock and roll.
Wait...
Tomorrow is Saturday. I can't start a diet on Saturday. Its the weekend. I'm going golfing, I gotta throw down some brewskis with the boys and scarf down grimace proportions of bar food after. Then I gotta get my nap on, wake up, hit the clubs, get but ass wasted and end the night face down in a heap of white castle and then sleep it all off Sunday and wrap up a great weekend with a pie from Tony Pizzolis .
Ill start my diet Monday. It will be easier that way.
(This is actually shit I've personally said and done. I'm still a lot of lbs overweight. I'm gonna start Monday though...)
Well played Diesel, well played.
Blackhawk, I suggest that you go back and read what Ready posted. Read if very slowly, and then go post roll. Quit today, and I quit with you. This site WILL help you get it done. Seems a little gruff at first, but you will catch on. Quitting nicotine is DAMN hard, and I suggest you use all the resources that you have at your disposal.
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First off, I'm from Detroit, we just choked away 3-1 series lead to your squad. Fuck!!!!
Tomorrow. I am going on a diet and losing some lbs.  I have all my cookbooks and nutritional charts out, my workouts all penciled in, my veggies ready for the juicer, my deal-a-meal cards, and my P90X AND Insanity dvds ready to rock and roll.
Wait...
Tomorrow is Saturday. I can't start a diet on Saturday. Its the weekend. I'm going golfing, I gotta throw down some brewskis with the boys and scarf down grimace proportions of bar food after. Then I gotta get my nap on, wake up, hit the clubs, get but ass wasted and end the night face down in a heap of white castle and then sleep it all off Sunday and wrap up a great weekend with a pie from Tony Pizzolis .
Ill start my diet Monday.  It will be easier that way.
(This is actually shit I've personally said and done. I'm still a lot of lbs overweight. I'm gonna start Monday though...)
Well played Diesel, well played.
Blackhawk, I suggest that you go back and read what Ready posted. Read if very slowly, and then go post roll. Quit today, and I quit with you. This site WILL help you get it done. Seems a little gruff at first, but you will catch on. Quitting nicotine is DAMN hard, and I suggest you use all the resources that you have at your disposal.
I'm with got-2. Today is the day,, I'll be looking for that post. If I was you I wouldn't even put in that morning dip. Lets start this day off right. You have prepared and prepared. This is the day. Lets do it!!!! I'll be glad to quit with you.
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It's 6/1/13
'Popcorn'
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It's 6/1/13
'Popcorn'
Lets do this today bro!
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It's 6/1/13
'Popcorn'
Lets do this today bro!
'archer'
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be interesting to see if Blackhawk now sees tomorrow has become today.
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Am I shocked?
Not so much.
There IS No Tomorrow! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC_1U7xgAeY)
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You can do this Blackhawks.
Just take the first step. Everyone here will help you down this road but you have to initiate.
Are you taking "just one more"? Today is still day 1 if you toss it now and post up your promise.
I quit with you today.
Leahy - day 728
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Am I shocked?
Not so much.
There IS No Tomorrow! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC_1U7xgAeY)
'Popcorn'
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Am I shocked?
Not so much.
There IS No Tomorrow! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC_1U7xgAeY)
'Popcorn'
Gee...... Didn't see this coming guys!
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Blackhawks - Day 1 - First Day of my Quit and "This Time" it's going to work. My life and my family depend on it! So glad to be doing this with all of you! I'm not alone! We can do this! Let's save our lives!
'clap'
Well done Blackhawks!!!
If you need a # - shoot me a PM and you'll have mine.
One day at a time.
Go Pens...
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I'm here. Day 1 for me. Just posted roll in my Quit Group. I will not Chew today. I Promise. Had my final chew last night and then flushed it all. Feeling great about this. Slight craving right now but it's no problem. I'll go get a Jolly Rancher Hard Candy and a water..........Grape, excellent! Wife and 20 month old son are both napping. No problem, I got this. Watching French Open Tennis (yikes, where's the remote). Jeez....nothing on. Hawks play at 4pm....can't wait! Falling Skies marathon. Looking forward to that starting up again. Really looking forward to Game of Thrones tomorrow. Last 10 minutes of Talladega Nights is on...why not.
Sorry for the rambling. I do want to say thank you to all of you for offering me support in your own way. As someone wisely pointed out, there are about 4 or 5 pages of posts here from members that are reaching out to me and that is really great. I am happy to be a part of this community and walking this path with all of you.
Go Blackhawks (me and the team)
P.S - haven't read all the posts since last night so will check them out now. Also, thank you to those of you that offered your numbers. Will take note of them and try to reach out soon.
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Also, thank you to those of you that offered your numbers. Will take note of them and try to reach out soon.
Not busting your hump but call those guys now! (especially me)
Establish safety lines early and keep them open (used often) No one is an island here - you close yourself off and bad things happen.
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I'm here. Day 1 for me. Just posted roll in my Quit Group. I will not Chew today. I Promise. Had my final chew last night and then flushed it all. Feeling great about this. Slight craving right now but it's no problem. I'll go get a Jolly Rancher Hard Candy and a water..........Grape, excellent! Wife and 20 month old son are both napping. No problem, I got this. Watching French Open Tennis (yikes, where's the remote). Jeez....nothing on. Hawks play at 4pm....can't wait! Falling Skies marathon. Looking forward to that starting up again. Really looking forward to Game of Thrones tomorrow. Last 10 minutes of Talladega Nights is on...why not.
Sorry for the rambling. I do want to say thank you to all of you for offering me support in your own way. As someone wisely pointed out, there are about 4 or 5 pages of posts here from members that are reaching out to me and that is really great. I am happy to be a part of this community and walking this path with all of you.
Go Blackhawks (me and the team)
P.S - haven't read all the posts since last night so will check them out now. Also, thank you to those of you that offered your numbers. Will take note of them and try to reach out soon.
Outfuckingstanding.
Great job BH
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I'm here. Day 1 for me. Just posted roll in my Quit Group. I will not Chew today. I Promise. Had my final chew last night and then flushed it all. Feeling great about this. Slight craving right now but it's no problem. I'll go get a Jolly Rancher Hard Candy and a water..........Grape, excellent! Wife and 20 month old son are both napping. No problem, I got this. Watching French Open Tennis (yikes, where's the remote). Jeez....nothing on. Hawks play at 4pm....can't wait! Falling Skies marathon. Looking forward to that starting up again. Really looking forward to Game of Thrones tomorrow. Last 10 minutes of Talladega Nights is on...why not.
Sorry for the rambling. I do want to say thank you to all of you for offering me support in your own way. As someone wisely pointed out, there are about 4 or 5 pages of posts here from members that are reaching out to me and that is really great. I am happy to be a part of this community and walking this path with all of you.
Go Blackhawks (me and the team)
P.S - haven't read all the posts since last night so will check them out now. Also, thank you to those of you that offered your numbers. Will take note of them and try to reach out soon.
Outfuckingstanding.
Great job BH
Fantastic job man. You have taken an enormous step. Remember this is serious shit. We are talking about your life. Turn off the tennis and start reading. This site is jam packed with great info and inspiration. The wisdom to quit lies within, you supply the balls.
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I'm here. Day 1 for me. Just posted roll in my Quit Group. I will not Chew today. I Promise. Had my final chew last night and then flushed it all. Feeling great about this. Slight craving right now but it's no problem. I'll go get a Jolly Rancher Hard Candy and a water..........Grape, excellent! Wife and 20 month old son are both napping. No problem, I got this. Watching French Open Tennis (yikes, where's the remote). Jeez....nothing on. Hawks play at 4pm....can't wait! Falling Skies marathon. Looking forward to that starting up again. Really looking forward to Game of Thrones tomorrow. Last 10 minutes of Talladega Nights is on...why not.
Sorry for the rambling. I do want to say thank you to all of you for offering me support in your own way. As someone wisely pointed out, there are about 4 or 5 pages of posts here from members that are reaching out to me and that is really great. I am happy to be a part of this community and walking this path with all of you.
Go Blackhawks (me and the team)
P.S - haven't read all the posts since last night so will check them out now. Also, thank you to those of you that offered your numbers. Will take note of them and try to reach out soon.
Outfuckingstanding.
Great job BH
That's what I'm talking about. Now your on the plan of plans. One day at a time plan. You taking you're life back plan. The plan to stop spending money on something that does absolutely nothing for you. I quit with you my friend.
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I'm here. Day 1 for me. Just posted roll in my Quit Group. I will not Chew today. I Promise. Had my final chew last night and then flushed it all. Feeling great about this. Slight craving right now but it's no problem. I'll go get a Jolly Rancher Hard Candy and a water..........Grape, excellent! Wife and 20 month old son are both napping. No problem, I got this. Watching French Open Tennis (yikes, where's the remote). Jeez....nothing on. Hawks play at 4pm....can't wait! Falling Skies marathon. Looking forward to that starting up again. Really looking forward to Game of Thrones tomorrow. Last 10 minutes of Talladega Nights is on...why not.
Sorry for the rambling. I do want to say thank you to all of you for offering me support in your own way. As someone wisely pointed out, there are about 4 or 5 pages of posts here from members that are reaching out to me and that is really great. I am happy to be a part of this community and walking this path with all of you.
Go Blackhawks (me and the team)
P.S - haven't read all the posts since last night so will check them out now. Also, thank you to those of you that offered your numbers. Will take note of them and try to reach out soon.
Outfuckingstanding.
Great job BH
That's what I'm talking about. Now your on the plan of plans. One day at a time plan. You taking you're life back plan. The plan to stop spending money on something that does absolutely nothing for you. I quit with you my friend.
For future reference, tomorrow is tomorrow, you can't control the future. You can control the now, one day at a time. That's how you have a sucessful quit
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I'm here. Day 1 for me. Just posted roll in my Quit Group. I will not Chew today. I Promise. Had my final chew last night and then flushed it all. Feeling great about this. Slight craving right now but it's no problem. I'll go get a Jolly Rancher Hard Candy and a water..........Grape, excellent! Wife and 20 month old son are both napping. No problem, I got this. Watching French Open Tennis (yikes, where's the remote). Jeez....nothing on. Hawks play at 4pm....can't wait! Falling Skies marathon. Looking forward to that starting up again. Really looking forward to Game of Thrones tomorrow. Last 10 minutes of Talladega Nights is on...why not.
Sorry for the rambling. I do want to say thank you to all of you for offering me support in your own way. As someone wisely pointed out, there are about 4 or 5 pages of posts here from members that are reaching out to me and that is really great. I am happy to be a part of this community and walking this path with all of you.
Go Blackhawks (me and the team)
P.S - haven't read all the posts since last night so will check them out now. Also, thank you to those of you that offered your numbers. Will take note of them and try to reach out soon.
Outfuckingstanding.
Great job BH
That's what I'm talking about. Now your on the plan of plans. One day at a time plan. You taking you're life back plan. The plan to stop spending money on something that does absolutely nothing for you. I quit with you my friend.
Great news BH. More good news, today is your day 2! Day 1 is the day you flush. Welcome to your 2nd day of freedom.
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You know what? I have had a shitty day and you just turned it around for me. This morning I looked online to see if you posted roll, and wrote you off when I did not see it. I Am so stoked to see you here! Embrace the suck that you are going thru. It will end and you will feel a sense of freedom you didn't know. Thank you! I am quit with you today and you made my day.
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Blackhawks - Day 1 - First Day of my Quit and "This Time" it's going to work. My life and my family depend on it! So glad to be doing this with all of you! I'm not alone! We can do this! Let's save our lives!
'clap'
Well done Blackhawks!!!
If you need a # - shoot me a PM and you'll have mine.
One day at a time.
Go Pens...
Welcome.
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Awesome! I quit with you bro, I am addicted to quitting.
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Also, thank you to those of you that offered your numbers. Will take note of them and try to reach out soon.
Not busting your hump but call those guys now! (especially me)
Establish safety lines early and keep them open (used often) No one is an island here - you close yourself off and bad things happen.
listen to the vet here get yourself some numbers...it may seem weird to call a total stranger but I tell ya SRANS called me out of the blue when I was trapped in a fog and helped me out...if you need my number PM me. We survive together we sink as individuals...not to be cliché united we stand divided we fall.
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Ok, I'm on Day 3 and hanging in there, but now the real challenge begins. Today is my first work day of my quit. The weekends are much easier for me as I am with my wife and kid mostly and not triggered as much. The work day presents many more triggers like driving in the car alone. The commute this morning wasn't so bad....had my coffee and my jolly ranchers. Was mildly craving but got through it fine. I heard someone on here saying we should try and reduce our caffeine intake. Why is this?
I will try and respond to many of the posts here. Thanks again to all of you for taking the time to offer me support, advice and words of wisdom:
Eric From Pittsburgh - Blackhawks looking pretty dominant. Sid the Kid trying to fight Chara? Yeah, that's gonna work!
Evil Won - I'm in Glenview. Don't know if I'm ready for alcohol yet as it's a trigger for me, but would love to have you as a member of my local support network. Will check my inbox for your number.
Jake Frawley - Glad I helped turn around your day. You and everyone else here has helped to put me in a pretty good mood over this quit. This place is pretty inspiring.
Traumagnet - Will PM you for digits. Thanks for caring!
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Good work there Blackhawks. I was the same way. The first few days were relatively easy as I was psyched to be quit. Then, once the drug was out of my system the oral fixation thing kicked in. For me, that's the hard battle.
I don't know your specific routine, but for me, I found the shortest distance between home and work. No more joy-riding around with the only purpose to dip. I kept seeds at work, in my bag, and in the car. Fake stuff, which I didn't like, in my bag and car "just in case". Hard candy in a dish on my desk and a huge bag of Atomic Fireballs in my car. A case of Le Croix carbonated water in the car. Toothpicks and floosers in my car. And of course, lots of phone numbers in my phone (most important).
Seems to be a good number of local quitters around here now. Rob1985 (June 13) is near Wheaton, CBB (your quit bro) is near Elmhurst. Be need to get together ASAP to watch a game.
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Hey guys,
I have a couple questions:
(1) When can I add a photo to my profile? I tried doing it but it said I don't have permission for this.
(2) How do I add a link to my Intro Page on my signature? I tried doing it by cutting and pasting the web address but it doesn't work when you click on it in my signature.
(3) Does anyone know a good herbal dip that closely resembles the texture and feel of skoal long cut? I am yet to find anything close.
Thanks guys,
Quitting with you all day every day!
- Blackhawks
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Hey guys,
I have a couple questions:
(1) When can I add a photo to my profile? I tried doing it but it said I don't have permission for this.
(2) How do I add a link to my Intro Page on my signature? I tried doing it by cutting and pasting the web address but it doesn't work when you click on it in my signature.
(3) Does anyone know a good herbal dip that closely resembles the texture and feel of skoal long cut? I am yet to find anything close.
Thanks guys,
Quitting with you all day every day!
- Blackhawks
For the pic, have you tried? 1) click on your name right under the black banner. 2) Click "avatar options". 3) if the pic you want to use is on your hard drive click on the browse button under the "your image avatars" header. 4) you should be able to figure the rest out.
As for the fake, being as we are from Chicago I will tell you that is is next to impossible to find. I had to drive to a Mom N' Pop smoke shop down in Lansing to find fake. No Walmart around her carries any.
I used Kodiak or Skoal Long Cut and nothing fake was close. All of the fakes were too waxy or too sweet. The Oregon Mint Snff Co mint snuff pouches actually have a strong kick and will burn. I keep a can in the car "just in case". I realized that since finding fake was difficult I was going to go without it. I used a ton of seeds and candy, and stuffed wet green tea bags in there to fill the void. That helped on the commutes to/from work.
Keep digging. It gets better.
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Hey guys,
I have a couple questions:
(1) When can I add a photo to my profile? I tried doing it but it said I don't have permission for this.
(2) How do I add a link to my Intro Page on my signature? I tried doing it by cutting and pasting the web address but it doesn't work when you click on it in my signature.
(3) Does anyone know a good herbal dip that closely resembles the texture and feel of skoal long cut? I am yet to find anything close.Â
Thanks guys,
Quitting with you all day every day!
- Blackhawks
Looks like your first question was already answered.
For #2 - go to "My Controls" then to Edit Signature.
then you'll need to use board tags to add the URL like so:
Code: Select all (http://i-39-m-quitting-tomorrow-6-1-13-t6474-s50.html#)
[url=http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8308]Blackhawk's sweet into[/url]Which will end up looking like this:
Blackhawk's sweet into (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8308)
For 3, I think Smokey Mountain wintergreen is probably the closest feel to long cut.
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Hey brother congrats on the new baby and you HOF. Big time in your life. I quit with you as hard as I can, Erussell.
We have two major things to congratulate Blackhawks for. First he is a new Dad again, he has two boys, his first turns two on day 100 and his second was born 3 days ago. Second he is hitting HOF today. This Attorney dipped scoal strait since he was 18 and is from Glenview IL. He claims he is bringing the Stanley cup which the Blachawks won during these 100 days, whatever lol.
He is celebrating by focusing on his sons and when asked about two hundred days he replied with "yes please" how bad ass! This nut drives and Honda but plays hockey so he's got to be somewhat tough although he says he a little nervous of Bring It On??? Why??? Lmao.... He finds Evil and Mookie to he very inspiring but says he has had more help than he can list out. And in his own words "Overall, I would like to say that I feel like my quit has been blessed. There has been so much good karma and good signs. I.e. the Blackhawks winning the Cup and the birth of my 2nd on Day 97 and my oldest's 2nd birthday on day 100!" I quit with you, Erussell.
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Congrats on day 100 Blackhawks. I read through your intro from your first post through today. Lots of great stuff in there that shows how far you've come along. My initial offer to come over and randsack your place and/or buy you a beer still stand. Let me know when.
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Congrats to BH on a new baby and HOF!
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Nice work Blackhawks! You are bad assed!
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Blackhawks - Feb 20, 2014, 4:21 pm
Today, I broke down and had a chew. I had the chew in my mouth for about 5 minutes, started to get really angry with myself and threw it out with the rest of the tin. I have been going through some very difficult and stressful times in my personal life. That is no excuse. Everyone has tough times but we should not relapse. I was a weak little pussy for caving like that. I am disgusted with myself and extremely sorry to let everyone in the KTC community down. I overcame many stressful and challenging times during my 265 day quit but ultimately I caved. I am extremely motivated to begin a new quit. Tomorrow will be my Day 1. KTC helped me make it 265 days which was by far the longest and most successful run for me. I would love to be able to begin again on KTC, if you guys will have me back. I understand completely, however, if I am no longer welcome. What can I do to be accepted back?
- Blackhawks
Damn man, I hate to see a good quitter go down like this. My suggestion for starters is the reflect on the three questions and answer with your heart and your fellow quitters will go from there...
1 - What Happened? (explained in above excerpt from your Group Post)
2 - Why did it happen? (insufficient answer)
3 - what are you going to do differently?
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Blackhawks - Feb 20, 2014, 4:21 pm
Today, I broke down and had a chew. I had the chew in my mouth for about 5 minutes, started to get really angry with myself and threw it out with the rest of the tin. I have been going through some very difficult and stressful times in my personal life. That is no excuse. Everyone has tough times but we should not relapse. I was a weak little pussy for caving like that. I am disgusted with myself and extremely sorry to let everyone in the KTC community down. I overcame many stressful and challenging times during my 265 day quit but ultimately I caved. I am extremely motivated to begin a new quit. Tomorrow will be my Day 1. KTC helped me make it 265 days which was by far the longest and most successful run for me. I would love to be able to begin again on KTC, if you guys will have me back. I understand completely, however, if I am no longer welcome. What can I do to be accepted back?
- Blackhawks
Damn man, I hate to see a good quitter go down like this. My suggestion for starters is the reflect on the three questions and answer with your heart and your fellow quitters will go from there...
1 - What Happened? (explained in above excerpt from your Group Post)
2 - Why did it happen? (insufficient answer)
3 - what are you going to do differently?
Answer in your old quit group and your new quit group. Tomorrow you will be in May, if Day 1 is Saturday, you'll be in June.
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Blackhawks - Feb 20, 2014, 4:21 pmÂ
Today, I broke down and had a chew. I had the chew in my mouth for about 5 minutes, started to get really angry with myself and threw it out with the rest of the tin. I have been going through some very difficult and stressful times in my personal life. That is no excuse. Everyone has tough times but we should not relapse. I was a weak little pussy for caving like that. I am disgusted with myself and extremely sorry to let everyone in the KTC community down. I overcame many stressful and challenging times during my 265 day quit but ultimately I caved. I am extremely motivated to begin a new quit. Tomorrow will be my Day 1. KTC helped me make it 265 days which was by far the longest and most successful run for me. I would love to be able to begin again on KTC, if you guys will have me back. I understand completely, however, if I am no longer welcome. What can I do to be accepted back?
- Blackhawks
Damn man, I hate to see a good quitter go down like this. My suggestion for starters is the reflect on the three questions and answer with your heart and your fellow quitters will go from there...
1 - What Happened? (explained in above excerpt from your Group Post)
2 - Why did it happen? (insufficient answer)
3 - what are you going to do differently?
Answer in your old quit group and your new quit group. Tomorrow you will be in May, if Day 1 is Saturday, you'll be in June.
Here is another suggestion. when you come in this house, leave your little pink panties at the door.
Hope it was worth it. In fact I hope you choked on it.
Character and Integrity are requirements. Please show some.
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Blackhawks - Feb 20, 2014, 4:21 pmÂ
Today, I broke down and had a chew. I had the chew in my mouth for about 5 minutes, started to get really angry with myself and threw it out with the rest of the tin. I have been going through some very difficult and stressful times in my personal life. That is no excuse. Everyone has tough times but we should not relapse. I was a weak little pussy for caving like that. I am disgusted with myself and extremely sorry to let everyone in the KTC community down. I overcame many stressful and challenging times during my 265 day quit but ultimately I caved. I am extremely motivated to begin a new quit. Tomorrow will be my Day 1. KTC helped me make it 265 days which was by far the longest and most successful run for me. I would love to be able to begin again on KTC, if you guys will have me back. I understand completely, however, if I am no longer welcome. What can I do to be accepted back?
- Blackhawks
Damn man, I hate to see a good quitter go down like this. My suggestion for starters is the reflect on the three questions and answer with your heart and your fellow quitters will go from there...
1 - What Happened? (explained in above excerpt from your Group Post)
2 - Why did it happen? (insufficient answer)
3 - what are you going to do differently?
Damn - I feel sad.
Well like we have seen in times past and times yet to come, some addicts retrun to their vice like a dog to its own vomit.
Sometimes I feel like I'm alone in my absolute anger, frustration and resentment to the can of lies.
I just don't understand if you came her humble and determined to quit, make it as far as the HOF, why you think humping a can of nicotine is a more valuable trade in for the work you put into divorce her?
She is evil. Her evil is subtle. Slow, patient and steady. Just as addictive as heroine but not respected to be as dangerous as heroine. Ahhhh CANCER? But she is sly, she is legal, she is no big deal. She is tolerated.....You miss her. You glamorize that the slavery was secure. Just smell it, just a little taste. OH FUCK ME. What did I do? I hate this. I was weak.
No you weren't. I am the weak pussy that is intelligent enought to respect the cunning craftiness of the enemy. I am not quit forever and can not think past today. I quit today and that all I worry about.
You are not weak, you were careless and dumb. Like a dog that laps up its vomit.
Quit but do it right and take this shit serious.
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Blackhawks - Feb 20, 2014, 4:21 pmÂ
Today, I broke down and had a chew. I had the chew in my mouth for about 5 minutes, started to get really angry with myself and threw it out with the rest of the tin. I have been going through some very difficult and stressful times in my personal life. That is no excuse. Everyone has tough times but we should not relapse. I was a weak little pussy for caving like that. I am disgusted with myself and extremely sorry to let everyone in the KTC community down. I overcame many stressful and challenging times during my 265 day quit but ultimately I caved. I am extremely motivated to begin a new quit. Tomorrow will be my Day 1. KTC helped me make it 265 days which was by far the longest and most successful run for me. I would love to be able to begin again on KTC, if you guys will have me back. I understand completely, however, if I am no longer welcome. What can I do to be accepted back?
- Blackhawks
Damn man, I hate to see a good quitter go down like this. My suggestion for starters is the reflect on the three questions and answer with your heart and your fellow quitters will go from there...
1 - What Happened? (explained in above excerpt from your Group Post)
2 - Why did it happen? (insufficient answer)
3 - what are you going to do differently?
Damn - I feel sad.
Well like we have seen in times past and times yet to come, some addicts retrun to their vice like a dog to its own vomit.
Sometimes I feel like I'm alone in my absolute anger, frustration and resentment to the can of lies.
I just don't understand if you came her humble and determined to quit, make it as far as the HOF, why you think humping a can of nicotine is a more valuable trade in for the work you put into divorce her?
She is evil. Her evil is subtle. Slow, patient and steady. Just as addictive as heroine but not respected to be as dangerous as heroine. Ahhhh CANCER? But she is sly, she is legal, she is no big deal. She is tolerated.....You miss her. You glamorize that the slavery was secure. Just smell it, just a little taste. OH FUCK ME. What did I do? I hate this. I was weak.
No you weren't. I am the weak pussy that is intelligent enought to respect the cunning craftiness of the enemy. I am not quit forever and can not think past today. I quit today and that all I worry about.
You are not weak, you were careless and dumb. Like a dog that laps up its vomit.
Quit but do it right and take this shit serious.
At least your name is not Red Wings. Seriously, change the attitude. We are not here to see how many days we can be quit. Its got to be a lifestyle change and attitude change. Do whatever it takes to shut the door behind you and lock it up. Think long and hard about question #3
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Bro, very disappointing. 265 days down the crapper, for what???.
Looking forward to hearing your way forward.
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Blackhawks - Feb 20, 2014, 4:21 pmÂ
Today, I broke down and had a chew. I had the chew in my mouth for about 5 minutes, started to get really angry with myself and threw it out with the rest of the tin. I have been going through some very difficult and stressful times in my personal life. That is no excuse. Everyone has tough times but we should not relapse. I was a weak little pussy for caving like that. I am disgusted with myself and extremely sorry to let everyone in the KTC community down. I overcame many stressful and challenging times during my 265 day quit but ultimately I caved. I am extremely motivated to begin a new quit. Tomorrow will be my Day 1. KTC helped me make it 265 days which was by far the longest and most successful run for me. I would love to be able to begin again on KTC, if you guys will have me back. I understand completely, however, if I am no longer welcome. What can I do to be accepted back?
- Blackhawks
Damn man, I hate to see a good quitter go down like this. My suggestion for starters is the reflect on the three questions and answer with your heart and your fellow quitters will go from there...
1 - What Happened? (explained in above excerpt from your Group Post)
2 - Why did it happen? (insufficient answer)
3 - what are you going to do differently?
Damn - I feel sad.
Well like we have seen in times past and times yet to come, some addicts retrun to their vice like a dog to its own vomit.
Sometimes I feel like I'm alone in my absolute anger, frustration and resentment to the can of lies.
I just don't understand if you came her humble and determined to quit, make it as far as the HOF, why you think humping a can of nicotine is a more valuable trade in for the work you put into divorce her?
She is evil. Her evil is subtle. Slow, patient and steady. Just as addictive as heroine but not respected to be as dangerous as heroine. Ahhhh CANCER? But she is sly, she is legal, she is no big deal. She is tolerated.....You miss her. You glamorize that the slavery was secure. Just smell it, just a little taste. OH FUCK ME. What did I do? I hate this. I was weak.
No you weren't. I am the weak pussy that is intelligent enought to respect the cunning craftiness of the enemy. I am not quit forever and can not think past today. I quit today and that all I worry about.
You are not weak, you were careless and dumb. Like a dog that laps up its vomit.
Quit but do it right and take this shit serious.
At least your name is not Red Wings. Seriously, change the attitude. We are not here to see how many days we can be quit. Its got to be a lifestyle change and attitude change. Do whatever it takes to shut the door behind you and lock it up. Think long and hard about question #3
NAFAR
NEVER AGAIN FOR ANY (FUCKING ) REASON.
DO THESE WORDS SOUND FAMILIAR? I DO NOT EVEN KNOW YOU YET I AM PISSED FOR THE SITE, THE PEOPLE HERE, THE EFFORTS. WILL YOU CAUSE SOMEONE TO CAVE BY YOUR ACTIONS?
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Blackhawks - Feb 20, 2014, 4:21 pmÂ
Today, I broke down and had a chew. I had the chew in my mouth for about 5 minutes, started to get really angry with myself and threw it out with the rest of the tin. I have been going through some very difficult and stressful times in my personal life. That is no excuse. Everyone has tough times but we should not relapse. I was a weak little pussy for caving like that. I am disgusted with myself and extremely sorry to let everyone in the KTC community down. I overcame many stressful and challenging times during my 265 day quit but ultimately I caved. I am extremely motivated to begin a new quit. Tomorrow will be my Day 1. KTC helped me make it 265 days which was by far the longest and most successful run for me. I would love to be able to begin again on KTC, if you guys will have me back. I understand completely, however, if I am no longer welcome. What can I do to be accepted back?
- Blackhawks
Damn man, I hate to see a good quitter go down like this. My suggestion for starters is the reflect on the three questions and answer with your heart and your fellow quitters will go from there...
1 - What Happened? (explained in above excerpt from your Group Post)
2 - Why did it happen? (insufficient answer)
3 - what are you going to do differently?
Damn - I feel sad.
Well like we have seen in times past and times yet to come, some addicts retrun to their vice like a dog to its own vomit.
Sometimes I feel like I'm alone in my absolute anger, frustration and resentment to the can of lies.
I just don't understand if you came her humble and determined to quit, make it as far as the HOF, why you think humping a can of nicotine is a more valuable trade in for the work you put into divorce her?
She is evil. Her evil is subtle. Slow, patient and steady. Just as addictive as heroine but not respected to be as dangerous as heroine. Ahhhh CANCER? But she is sly, she is legal, she is no big deal. She is tolerated.....You miss her. You glamorize that the slavery was secure. Just smell it, just a little taste. OH FUCK ME. What did I do? I hate this. I was weak.
No you weren't. I am the weak pussy that is intelligent enought to respect the cunning craftiness of the enemy. I am not quit forever and can not think past today. I quit today and that all I worry about.
You are not weak, you were careless and dumb. Like a dog that laps up its vomit.
Quit but do it right and take this shit serious.
At least your name is not Red Wings. Seriously, change the attitude. We are not here to see how many days we can be quit. Its got to be a lifestyle change and attitude change. Do whatever it takes to shut the door behind you and lock it up. Think long and hard about question #3
NAFAR
NEVER AGAIN FOR ANY (FUCKING ) REASON.
DO THESE WORDS SOUND FAMILIAR? I DO NOT EVEN KNOW YOU YET I AM PISSED FOR THE SITE, THE PEOPLE HERE, THE EFFORTS. WILL YOU CAUSE SOMEONE TO CAVE BY YOUR ACTIONS?
Emulator... no one has permission to cave because of Blackhawks actions. Caving is a personal choice and you... and only you... make the decision to quit and stay quit every day.
Ownership of ones actions is how we roll.
So, as a reminder to all.... man, or women up. Just because one of us jumps off the cliff, don't mean the rest of us need to follow. Hold your quit!
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Blackhawks - Feb 20, 2014, 4:21 pmÂ
Today, I broke down and had a chew. I had the chew in my mouth for about 5 minutes, started to get really angry with myself and threw it out with the rest of the tin. I have been going through some very difficult and stressful times in my personal life. That is no excuse. Everyone has tough times but we should not relapse. I was a weak little pussy for caving like that. I am disgusted with myself and extremely sorry to let everyone in the KTC community down. I overcame many stressful and challenging times during my 265 day quit but ultimately I caved. I am extremely motivated to begin a new quit. Tomorrow will be my Day 1. KTC helped me make it 265 days which was by far the longest and most successful run for me. I would love to be able to begin again on KTC, if you guys will have me back. I understand completely, however, if I am no longer welcome. What can I do to be accepted back?
- Blackhawks
Damn man, I hate to see a good quitter go down like this. My suggestion for starters is the reflect on the three questions and answer with your heart and your fellow quitters will go from there...
1 - What Happened? (explained in above excerpt from your Group Post)
2 - Why did it happen? (insufficient answer)
3 - what are you going to do differently?
Damn - I feel sad.
Well like we have seen in times past and times yet to come, some addicts retrun to their vice like a dog to its own vomit.
Sometimes I feel like I'm alone in my absolute anger, frustration and resentment to the can of lies.
I just don't understand if you came her humble and determined to quit, make it as far as the HOF, why you think humping a can of nicotine is a more valuable trade in for the work you put into divorce her?
She is evil. Her evil is subtle. Slow, patient and steady. Just as addictive as heroine but not respected to be as dangerous as heroine. Ahhhh CANCER? But she is sly, she is legal, she is no big deal. She is tolerated.....You miss her. You glamorize that the slavery was secure. Just smell it, just a little taste. OH FUCK ME. What did I do? I hate this. I was weak.
No you weren't. I am the weak pussy that is intelligent enought to respect the cunning craftiness of the enemy. I am not quit forever and can not think past today. I quit today and that all I worry about.
You are not weak, you were careless and dumb. Like a dog that laps up its vomit.
Quit but do it right and take this shit serious.
At least your name is not Red Wings. Seriously, change the attitude. We are not here to see how many days we can be quit. Its got to be a lifestyle change and attitude change. Do whatever it takes to shut the door behind you and lock it up. Think long and hard about question #3
NAFAR
NEVER AGAIN FOR ANY (FUCKING ) REASON.
DO THESE WORDS SOUND FAMILIAR? I DO NOT EVEN KNOW YOU YET I AM PISSED FOR THE SITE, THE PEOPLE HERE, THE EFFORTS. WILL YOU CAUSE SOMEONE TO CAVE BY YOUR ACTIONS?
WTF Blackhawks?!? At least you had the decency to feel like an asshole, but why did it take you five minutes? 265 days of freedom down the shitter. Get yourself un-fucked and answer the questions here!
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Blackhawks - Feb 20, 2014, 4:21 pmÂ
Today, I broke down and had a chew. I had the chew in my mouth for about 5 minutes, started to get really angry with myself and threw it out with the rest of the tin. I have been going through some very difficult and stressful times in my personal life. That is no excuse. Everyone has tough times but we should not relapse. I was a weak little pussy for caving like that. I am disgusted with myself and extremely sorry to let everyone in the KTC community down. I overcame many stressful and challenging times during my 265 day quit but ultimately I caved. I am extremely motivated to begin a new quit. Tomorrow will be my Day 1. KTC helped me make it 265 days which was by far the longest and most successful run for me. I would love to be able to begin again on KTC, if you guys will have me back. I understand completely, however, if I am no longer welcome. What can I do to be accepted back?
- Blackhawks
Damn man, I hate to see a good quitter go down like this. My suggestion for starters is the reflect on the three questions and answer with your heart and your fellow quitters will go from there...
1 - What Happened? (explained in above excerpt from your Group Post)
2 - Why did it happen? (insufficient answer)
3 - what are you going to do differently?
Damn - I feel sad.
Well like we have seen in times past and times yet to come, some addicts retrun to their vice like a dog to its own vomit.
Sometimes I feel like I'm alone in my absolute anger, frustration and resentment to the can of lies.
I just don't understand if you came her humble and determined to quit, make it as far as the HOF, why you think humping a can of nicotine is a more valuable trade in for the work you put into divorce her?
She is evil. Her evil is subtle. Slow, patient and steady. Just as addictive as heroine but not respected to be as dangerous as heroine. Ahhhh CANCER? But she is sly, she is legal, she is no big deal. She is tolerated.....You miss her. You glamorize that the slavery was secure. Just smell it, just a little taste. OH FUCK ME. What did I do? I hate this. I was weak.
No you weren't. I am the weak pussy that is intelligent enought to respect the cunning craftiness of the enemy. I am not quit forever and can not think past today. I quit today and that all I worry about.
You are not weak, you were careless and dumb. Like a dog that laps up its vomit.
Quit but do it right and take this shit serious.
At least your name is not Red Wings. Seriously, change the attitude. We are not here to see how many days we can be quit. Its got to be a lifestyle change and attitude change. Do whatever it takes to shut the door behind you and lock it up. Think long and hard about question #3
NAFAR
NEVER AGAIN FOR ANY (FUCKING ) REASON.
DO THESE WORDS SOUND FAMILIAR? I DO NOT EVEN KNOW YOU YET I AM PISSED FOR THE SITE, THE PEOPLE HERE, THE EFFORTS. WILL YOU CAUSE SOMEONE TO CAVE BY YOUR ACTIONS?
WTF Blackhawks?!? At least you had the decency to feel like an asshole, but why did it take you five minutes? 265 days of freedom down the shitter. Get yourself un-fucked and answer the questions here!
Emulator... no one has permission to cave because of Blackhawks actions. Caving is a personal choice and you... and only you... make the decision to quit and stay quit every day.
Ownership of ones actions is how we roll.
So, as a reminder to all.... man, or women up. Just because one of us jumps off the cliff, don't mean the rest of us need to follow. Hold your quit!
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Blackhawks - Feb 20, 2014, 4:21 pmÂ
Today, I broke down and had a chew. I had the chew in my mouth for about 5 minutes, started to get really angry with myself and threw it out with the rest of the tin. I have been going through some very difficult and stressful times in my personal life. That is no excuse. Everyone has tough times but we should not relapse. I was a weak little pussy for caving like that. I am disgusted with myself and extremely sorry to let everyone in the KTC community down. I overcame many stressful and challenging times during my 265 day quit but ultimately I caved. I am extremely motivated to begin a new quit. Tomorrow will be my Day 1. KTC helped me make it 265 days which was by far the longest and most successful run for me. I would love to be able to begin again on KTC, if you guys will have me back. I understand completely, however, if I am no longer welcome. What can I do to be accepted back?
- Blackhawks
Damn man, I hate to see a good quitter go down like this. My suggestion for starters is the reflect on the three questions and answer with your heart and your fellow quitters will go from there...
1 - What Happened? (explained in above excerpt from your Group Post)
2 - Why did it happen? (insufficient answer)
3 - what are you going to do differently?
Damn - I feel sad.
Well like we have seen in times past and times yet to come, some addicts retrun to their vice like a dog to its own vomit.
Sometimes I feel like I'm alone in my absolute anger, frustration and resentment to the can of lies.
I just don't understand if you came her humble and determined to quit, make it as far as the HOF, why you think humping a can of nicotine is a more valuable trade in for the work you put into divorce her?
She is evil. Her evil is subtle. Slow, patient and steady. Just as addictive as heroine but not respected to be as dangerous as heroine. Ahhhh CANCER? But she is sly, she is legal, she is no big deal. She is tolerated.....You miss her. You glamorize that the slavery was secure. Just smell it, just a little taste. OH FUCK ME. What did I do? I hate this. I was weak.
No you weren't. I am the weak pussy that is intelligent enought to respect the cunning craftiness of the enemy. I am not quit forever and can not think past today. I quit today and that all I worry about.
You are not weak, you were careless and dumb. Like a dog that laps up its vomit.
Quit but do it right and take this shit serious.
At least your name is not Red Wings. Seriously, change the attitude. We are not here to see how many days we can be quit. Its got to be a lifestyle change and attitude change. Do whatever it takes to shut the door behind you and lock it up. Think long and hard about question #3
NAFAR
NEVER AGAIN FOR ANY (FUCKING ) REASON.
DO THESE WORDS SOUND FAMILIAR? I DO NOT EVEN KNOW YOU YET I AM PISSED FOR THE SITE, THE PEOPLE HERE, THE EFFORTS. WILL YOU CAUSE SOMEONE TO CAVE BY YOUR ACTIONS?
Emulator... no one has permission to cave because of Blackhawks actions. Caving is a personal choice and you... and only you... make the decision to quit and stay quit every day.
Ownership of ones actions is how we roll.
So, as a reminder to all.... man, or women up. Just because one of us jumps off the cliff, don't mean the rest of us need to follow. Hold your quit!
Blackhawks,
You need to post roll today. With May. You know how, do it.
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265 days for 5 minutes? Jeesh!
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265 days for 5 minutes? Jeesh!
Well shit. I always have mixed emotions on these caves. I try to be understanding and read all the details but honestly, I just lose interest. I start getting angry. How could you give in. What part of you didn't fully commit to being quit. What part of you still allowed it to even be an option? When did you not switch on the light for the understanding that this is who you are now. All that external force and pressure does not get to bring you to her! She only lives if you allow her to. Take it off the table. Any other option but that. Nicotine can't hold weight of any kind.
Then I feel bad again for you. What is so bad that you couldn't find other help. That's when I gotta check myself. I am stronger than this right? Then I get pissed again cuz you made you think about it all over again. Just not fair.
I AM that strong. I've already taken it OFF the table. It would be like my husband coming home to tell me he slept with "that chic". Well shit. I am just not that forgiving.
Nothing gets in the way of my quit. Every single person is going to have shit to deal with. Not every single person is going to allow nicotine back in. I am one of those people. Not today. NAFAR. (being a female may add to these emotional ups and downs in these circumstances but hey....deal with it)
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265 days for 5 minutes? Jeesh!
Well shit. I always have mixed emotions on these caves. I try to be understanding and read all the details but honestly, I just lose interest. I start getting angry. How could you give in. What part of you didn't fully commit to being quit. What part of you still allowed it to even be an option? When did you not switch on the light for the understanding that this is who you are now. All that external force and pressure does not get to bring you to her! She only lives if you allow her to. Take it off the table. Any other option but that. Nicotine can't hold weight of any kind.
Then I feel bad again for you. What is so bad that you couldn't find other help. That's when I gotta check myself. I am stronger than this right? Then I get pissed again cuz you made you think about it all over again. Just not fair.
I AM that strong. I've already taken it OFF the table. It would be like my husband coming home to tell me he slept with "that chic". Well shit. I am just not that forgiving.
Nothing gets in the way of my quit. Every single person is going to have shit to deal with. Not every single person is going to allow nicotine back in. I am one of those people. Not today. NAFAR. (being a female may add to these emotional ups and downs in these circumstances but hey....deal with it)
Damn.... I'm gonna say it one more time today. Being quit is a two step process. Post roll and change who we are and how we think. If we don t change how we think then we are doomed to fail our quit. You can only cave if you leave part of your old self alive. Change yourself. Take nic off the table because your old self is dead. Then you cannot go back. You are a new man committed to your quit! After 265 days you failed because you never changed. Do it now or continue to fail
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Question 3) What are you planning to do differently this time?
Let me help you out with this answer. I am a strong believer in layers of accounability. I am accountable to my group which I post with every day. I am accountable to the other groups that I post in. I am accountable to the MODs and ADMINs that have offered me an additional layer of accountability "behind the curtain". I am accountable to every quitter whose number is in my phone, which I will use before doing something stupid.
Now, there is another layer of accountability that is more special, and quite possibly stonger. I am accountable to every quitter I have met in person. From kdip that is nearing 2000 days to Dave1903 that just hit the HOF. I have looked 19 quitters in the eye and said "never again for any reason", including your former quit-bro Clinton (CBB1984). From California, to Texas, to Michigan, to Indiana. I have built accountability in several states.
I signed cbird's KTC running shirt. Can I cave now? No way; not with other quitters' signatures on it. "I've got his back", iterally, and he has mine. I made a pact with Ziesmer that I would not cave unless he cave me permission. BTW, that pact was made at Blackies on Polk St. in the south loop the day the Blackhawks won the cup in Boston. Where were you? You are way more local to me (35 minutes?) than any of the 19 quitters I have met, and yet we never met. Why? I tried, but you resisted.
So post roll every day in May 14 (you're posting percentage sucked in Sept 13'). Post in other groups every day - I suggest Jan 13. Don't come sulking back with after a five-minute tango with the Bitch asking if you will be accepted back. You will be, but a lot of trust is lost. Earn it back. Look me in the eye and tell me that you QUIT. We don't have to get a pool suite at the Cybaris, just a beer, in a dive bar, with a blackhawk game on the tele. Puck is in your court.
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Question 3) What are you planning to do differently this time?
Let me help you out with this answer. I am a strong believer in layers of accounability. I am accountable to my group which I post with every day. I am accountable to the other groups that I post in. I am accountable to the MODs and ADMINs that have offered me an additional layer of accountability "behind the curtain". I am accountable to every quitter whose number is in my phone, which I will use before doing something stupid.
Now, there is another layer of accountability that is more special, and quite possibly stonger. I am accountable to every quitter I have met in person. From kdip that is nearing 2000 days to Dave1903 that just hit the HOF. I have looked 19 quitters in the eye and said "never again for any reason", including your former quit-bro Clinton (CBB1984). From California, to Texas, to Michigan, to Indiana. I have built accountability in several states.
I signed cbird's KTC running shirt. Can I cave now? No way; not with other quitters' signatures on it. "I've got his back", iterally, and he has mine. I made a pact with Ziesmer that I would not cave unless he cave me permission. BTW, that pact was made at Blackies on Polk St. in the south loop the day the Blackhawks won the cup in Boston. Where were you? You are way more local to me (35 minutes?) than any of the 19 quitters I have met, and yet we never met. Why? I tried, but you resisted.
So post roll every day in May 14 (you're posting percentage sucked in Sept 13'). Post in other groups every day - I suggest Jan 13. Don't come sulking back with after a five-minute tango with the Bitch asking if you will be accepted back. You will be, but a lot of trust is lost. Earn it back. Look me in the eye and tell me that you QUIT. We don't have to get a pool suite at the Cybaris, just a beer, in a dive bar, with a blackhawk game on the tele. Puck is in your court.
Meet him for that beer! I'm telling you, meeting a fellow quitter changes everything. Makes your promise to be quit more personal. 35 mins away? We'll worth the drive !
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Question 3) What are you planning to do differently this time?
Let me help you out with this answer. I am a strong believer in layers of accounability. I am accountable to my group which I post with every day. I am accountable to the other groups that I post in. I am accountable to the MODs and ADMINs that have offered me an additional layer of accountability "behind the curtain". I am accountable to every quitter whose number is in my phone, which I will use before doing something stupid.
Now, there is another layer of accountability that is more special, and quite possibly stonger. I am accountable to every quitter I have met in person. From kdip that is nearing 2000 days to Dave1903 that just hit the HOF. I have looked 19 quitters in the eye and said "never again for any reason", including your former quit-bro Clinton (CBB1984). From California, to Texas, to Michigan, to Indiana. I have built accountability in several states.
I signed cbird's KTC running shirt. Can I cave now? No way; not with other quitters' signatures on it. "I've got his back", iterally, and he has mine. I made a pact with Ziesmer that I would not cave unless he cave me permission. BTW, that pact was made at Blackies on Polk St. in the south loop the day the Blackhawks won the cup in Boston. Where were you? You are way more local to me (35 minutes?) than any of the 19 quitters I have met, and yet we never met. Why? I tried, but you resisted.
So post roll every day in May 14 (you're posting percentage sucked in Sept 13'). Post in other groups every day - I suggest Jan 13. Don't come sulking back with after a five-minute tango with the Bitch asking if you will be accepted back. You will be, but a lot of trust is lost. Earn it back. Look me in the eye and tell me that you QUIT. We don't have to get a pool suite at the Cybaris, just a beer, in a dive bar, with a blackhawk game on the tele. Puck is in your court.
Evil gave you all the answers to stay quit,it's up to you. Be here more then just posting roll make friends. i also invited you to a meet up when i was in northern Indiana for a weekend i met Jason including your former quit-bro Clinton (CBB1984) and few others that night.
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Question 3) What are you planning to do differently this time?
Let me help you out with this answer. I am a strong believer in layers of accounability. I am accountable to my group which I post with every day. I am accountable to the other groups that I post in. I am accountable to the MODs and ADMINs that have offered me an additional layer of accountability "behind the curtain". I am accountable to every quitter whose number is in my phone, which I will use before doing something stupid.
Now, there is another layer of accountability that is more special, and quite possibly stonger. I am accountable to every quitter I have met in person. From kdip that is nearing 2000 days to Dave1903 that just hit the HOF. I have looked 19 quitters in the eye and said "never again for any reason", including your former quit-bro Clinton (CBB1984). From California, to Texas, to Michigan, to Indiana. I have built accountability in several states.
I signed cbird's KTC running shirt. Can I cave now? No way; not with other quitters' signatures on it. "I've got his back", iterally, and he has mine. I made a pact with Ziesmer that I would not cave unless he cave me permission. BTW, that pact was made at Blackies on Polk St. in the south loop the day the Blackhawks won the cup in Boston. Where were you? You are way more local to me (35 minutes?) than any of the 19 quitters I have met, and yet we never met. Why? I tried, but you resisted.
So post roll every day in May 14 (you're posting percentage sucked in Sept 13'). Post in other groups every day - I suggest Jan 13. Don't come sulking back with after a five-minute tango with the Bitch asking if you will be accepted back. You will be, but a lot of trust is lost. Earn it back. Look me in the eye and tell me that you QUIT. We don't have to get a pool suite at the Cybaris, just a beer, in a dive bar, with a blackhawk game on the tele. Puck is in your court.
Evil gave you all the answers to stay quit,it's up to you. Be here more then just posting roll make friends. i also invited you to a meet up when i was in northern Indiana for a weekend i met Jason including your former quit-bro Clinton (CBB1984) and few others that night.
You would do well to take Evil up on his offer, it will help you a ton.
Your 200 plus days before was not a success, it was a failure even if it was the longest you have ever made it. That is a stop, not a quit.
If you want to quit embrace accountability whereever you can. Put yourself so far out there that everyone on this site will know if you are quit or not. Bottom line, you simply were not all in last time. Are you going to be this time?
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Question 3) What are you planning to do differently this time?
Let me help you out with this answer. I am a strong believer in layers of accounability. I am accountable to my group which I post with every day. I am accountable to the other groups that I post in. I am accountable to the MODs and ADMINs that have offered me an additional layer of accountability "behind the curtain". I am accountable to every quitter whose number is in my phone, which I will use before doing something stupid.
Now, there is another layer of accountability that is more special, and quite possibly stonger. I am accountable to every quitter I have met in person. From kdip that is nearing 2000 days to Dave1903 that just hit the HOF. I have looked 19 quitters in the eye and said "never again for any reason", including your former quit-bro Clinton (CBB1984). From California, to Texas, to Michigan, to Indiana. I have built accountability in several states.
I signed cbird's KTC running shirt. Can I cave now? No way; not with other quitters' signatures on it. "I've got his back", iterally, and he has mine. I made a pact with Ziesmer that I would not cave unless he cave me permission. BTW, that pact was made at Blackies on Polk St. in the south loop the day the Blackhawks won the cup in Boston. Where were you? You are way more local to me (35 minutes?) than any of the 19 quitters I have met, and yet we never met. Why? I tried, but you resisted.
So post roll every day in May 14 (you're posting percentage sucked in Sept 13'). Post in other groups every day - I suggest Jan 13. Don't come sulking back with after a five-minute tango with the Bitch asking if you will be accepted back. You will be, but a lot of trust is lost. Earn it back. Look me in the eye and tell me that you QUIT. We don't have to get a pool suite at the Cybaris, just a beer, in a dive bar, with a blackhawk game on the tele. Puck is in your court.
Evil gave you all the answers to stay quit,it's up to you. Be here more then just posting roll make friends. i also invited you to a meet up when i was in northern Indiana for a weekend i met Jason including your former quit-bro Clinton (CBB1984) and few others that night.
You would do well to take Evil up on his offer, it will help you a ton.
Your 200 plus days before was not a success, it was a failure even if it was the longest you have ever made it. That is a stop, not a quit.
If you want to quit embrace accountability whereever you can. Put yourself so far out there that everyone on this site will know if you are quit or not. Bottom line, you simply were not all in last time. Are you going to be this time?
What is it with you guys blaming stress for using nicotine? Didn't you recognize the lack of anxiety in your daily existence once you were 40/50+ days in and your body had begun to forget that it was missing nicotine? You were quit 265 days and probably know more about nicotine addiction than 99% of the population.
In one sentence you provide the excuse "I have been going through some very difficult and stressful times in my personal life." and in the very next sentence you say "That is no excuse." Then why did you provide the excuse?!? RECOGNIZE that you let yourself off the hook. It reminds me of the saying that in a sentence everything before the word "BUT" doesn't count. As in, "I don't mean to make excuses, BUT".
Stress? You think you're a special butterfly, do you? I lost three people to cancer and one to suicide during my quit. My wife had a miscarriage. My daughter was diagnosed with a condition and will need a serious and scary surgery. But you know what? I will never forget reading about quitters that came home to empty houses and Dear John letters; quitters that deal with kids that have severe disabilities; quitters that are going through divorce; quitters that lost their jobs. Yet they were here posting roll and keeping their quit. My problems and your problems are nothing compared to your fellow quitters at KTC. Besides, what the hell is caving going to do for your problems? At best it's going to make you feel like a powerless loser, which you are not.
Scowick's rule:
1 problem + Nicotine = 2 Problems
But you already know this.
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First of all, I would again like to apologize to my family, myself and to all of you for caving. I have carefully read over all you feedback and I thank you for taking the time to address it.Â
I am happy to see that many of you are using my screw-up to bolster your own quit and letting it serve as a reminder to never get complacent and to stay very active and very involved and very connected with the KTC community.
To answer the three questions:
(1) What happened?
I have been going through some very difficult personal challenges in my life. I will not get into the specifics, but I have been feeling very depressed and hopeless. When I decided to buy a tin of chew, I was basically just giving up. Giving up on the quit and giving up on the problems in my life. After having the chew in for about 5 minutes, I started to get really angry with myself for giving up and became very emotional and actually started to feel sick. I took the chew out and threw the tin away. In that moment, I decided that I did not want to be a quitter. I want to fight. I want to fight to make my life better and that definitely includes quitting chew. I sit here on a new Day 1 extremely motivated to never go down that road again. To never buy a tin of chew. To never stop fighting to make my life better for my family and for myself.Â
(2) Why did it happen?
It happened because I gave-up and just threw it all away. I have been complacent with my quit by not posting roll every day and not making more of an effort to let KTC member into my life.Â
(3) What will I do differently this time?
I will post roll every damn day. I will get more digits and I will use them. I will not get complacent. I will fight till the bitter end to never have a chew again.
Blackhawks... we need to address your cave here. Posting your cave in our quit group is not a way to remember this. You need to see this in your intro. You need to use it as motivation to not fucking cave again.
First off... blaming stress for your cave is ridiculous. Life does not stop happening. You will have ups and downs. If you are quit... man up and stay that way. You going to be able to do that?
If you are going to quit here... then get involved. You had 220 posts with 260+ days quit. That is not involvement. You missed roll repeatedly and were not an active quitter. Get involved this time, or I suggest you might find the same fate.
Read some of the stuff others wrote yesterday. Don't half ass your quit.
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Hey, just noticed all this great feedback. At work so don't have much time to read it all and reply. Will get to it during lunch and reply.
Thank you all for taking the time to help me out.
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You need to answer those questions and dig deep to find why you just said "eff it."
Then, get your ass on this site. Like everyone says, stay involved. You need numbers, people to call and text. Document your quit. Help newbies. That adds layers of accountability. When you actually know you will be lletting down someone other than yourself, it is much easier.
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Dude just came across this thread today...man where to begin what to say. It appears you didn't quit you were in a stoppage. 265 days 232 posts may have something to do with it. I know this isn't a posting championship but its a good indicator of how active you are here. From the amount of posts it appears you were a post and run kinda guy. So you either sucked at roll or paying it forward and paying it back. All of the above are part of drinking the Kool-Aid here on KTC. So I suggest that in your rebuilding process you incorporate accountability such as numbers being active in your roll post and in others threads. There is information that can be harvested from your cave. As to why you would want to toss 381600 minutes away for 5min.
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Question 3) What are you planning to do differently this time?
Let me help you out with this answer. I am a strong believer in layers of accounability. I am accountable to my group which I post with every day. I am accountable to the other groups that I post in. I am accountable to the MODs and ADMINs that have offered me an additional layer of accountability "behind the curtain". I am accountable to every quitter whose number is in my phone, which I will use before doing something stupid.
Now, there is another layer of accountability that is more special, and quite possibly stonger. I am accountable to every quitter I have met in person. From kdip that is nearing 2000 days to Dave1903 that just hit the HOF. I have looked 19 quitters in the eye and said "never again for any reason", including your former quit-bro Clinton (CBB1984). From California, to Texas, to Michigan, to Indiana. I have built accountability in several states.
I signed cbird's KTC running shirt. Can I cave now? No way; not with other quitters' signatures on it. "I've got his back", iterally, and he has mine. I made a pact with Ziesmer that I would not cave unless he cave me permission. BTW, that pact was made at Blackies on Polk St. in the south loop the day the Blackhawks won the cup in Boston. Where were you? You are way more local to me (35 minutes?) than any of the 19 quitters I have met, and yet we never met. Why? I tried, but you resisted.
So post roll every day in May 14 (you're posting percentage sucked in Sept 13'). Post in other groups every day - I suggest Jan 13. Don't come sulking back with after a five-minute tango with the Bitch asking if you will be accepted back. You will be, but a lot of trust is lost. Earn it back. Look me in the eye and tell me that you QUIT. We don't have to get a pool suite at the Cybaris, just a beer, in a dive bar, with a blackhawk game on the tele. Puck is in your court.
Evil gave you all the answers to stay quit,it's up to you. Be here more then just posting roll make friends. i also invited you to a meet up when i was in northern Indiana for a weekend i met Jason including your former quit-bro Clinton (CBB1984) and few others that night.
You would do well to take Evil up on his offer, it will help you a ton.
Your 200 plus days before was not a success, it was a failure even if it was the longest you have ever made it. That is a stop, not a quit.
If you want to quit embrace accountability whereever you can. Put yourself so far out there that everyone on this site will know if you are quit or not. Bottom line, you simply were not all in last time. Are you going to be this time?
How about actually embracing the concept of the brotherhood here. There is a complete arsenal of quitdom in the Chicago-land area. Suggest you 'track this topic Chicago-land Quitters Get Togethers (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=7976) Make an effort and get out from behind the wall.
Own it this time
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Just read everything you guys posted. WOW...what great stuff. Eye Opening. First of all, how come I only get an email notification for like one out of every 30 posts? I got an email notification this morning that Derk had posted on my thread and that's it. I never even saw all the great posts congratulating me when I made the HOF.
Evil, I definitely plan on being more accountable this time....my life depends on it. I am taking you up on your offer. Lets get together for a beer and a Hawks game. I'll text you tomorow.
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Just read everything you guys posted. WOW...what great stuff. Eye Opening. First of all, how come I only get an email notification for like one out of every 30 posts? I got an email notification this morning that Derk had posted on my thread and that's it. I never even saw all the great posts congratulating me when I made the HOF.Â
Evil, I definitely plan on being more accountable this time....my life depends on it. I am taking you up on your offer. Lets get together for a beer and a Hawks game. I'll text you tomorow.
I have stayed away from your intro today and just remained silent, but your last post got me a little perplexed. You stated that you never seen your congrats for hof! Really? Do you have any idea of what goes on at ktc on a daily basis? No reply necessary. Your last post pretty much answers any questions I have!
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Just read everything you guys posted. WOW...what great stuff. Eye Opening. First of all, how come I only get an email notification for like one out of every 30 posts? I got an email notification this morning that Derk had posted on my thread and that's it. I never even saw all the great posts congratulating me when I made the HOF.Â
Evil, I definitely plan on being more accountable this time....my life depends on it. I am taking you up on your offer. Lets get together for a beer and a Hawks game. I'll text you tomorow.
I have stayed away from your intro today and just remained silent, but your last post got me a little perplexed. You stated that you never seen your congrats for hof! Really? Do you have any idea of what goes on at ktc on a daily basis? No reply necessary. Your last post pretty much answers any questions I have!
'crackup' 'bang head' 'Crazy'
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Just read everything you guys posted. WOW...what great stuff. Eye Opening. First of all, how come I only get an email notification for like one out of every 30 posts? I got an email notification this morning that Derk had posted on my thread and that's it. I never even saw all the great posts congratulating me when I made the HOF.Â
Evil, I definitely plan on being more accountable this time....my life depends on it. I am taking you up on your offer. Lets get together for a beer and a Hawks game. I'll text you tomorow.
I have stayed away from your intro today and just remained silent, but your last post got me a little perplexed. You stated that you never seen your congrats for hof! Really? Do you have any idea of what goes on at ktc on a daily basis? No reply necessary. Your last post pretty much answers any questions I have!
Clearly, I was just a "Post and Run" quitter. I didn't take the time to figure out everything that goes on at KTC. I am vowing to change that with this quit. I want to add more layers of accountability and get more active and involved. My like depends on it.
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Just read everything you guys posted. WOW...what great stuff. Eye Opening. First of all, how come I only get an email notification for like one out of every 30 posts? I got an email notification this morning that Derk had posted on my thread and that's it. I never even saw all the great posts congratulating me when I made the HOF.Â
Evil, I definitely plan on being more accountable this time....my life depends on it. I am taking you up on your offer. Lets get together for a beer and a Hawks game. I'll text you tomorow.
I have stayed away from your intro today and just remained silent, but your last post got me a little perplexed. You stated that you never seen your congrats for hof! Really? Do you have any idea of what goes on at ktc on a daily basis? No reply necessary. Your last post pretty much answers any questions I have!
Clearly, I was just a "Post and Run" quitter. I didn't take the time to figure out everything that goes on at KTC. I am vowing to change that with this quit. I want to add more layers of accountability and get more active and involved. My like depends on it.
Blackhawks, forgive my shortcoming early on. I quit with you today. I will pm you my number if you have any issues or difficulties please text or call... Robbie
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Did I miss where you answered the 3 questions? IF so, I apologize.
IF not, answer them. It is price of re-entry.
Digging deep to answer them honestly will be a huge factor in whether you just white knuckle it until your next cave, or really understand the addiction and finally beat it for good.
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He's gone again. Gave me some of the thickest, stickyest, and stinkiest bullshit I've heard on these boards. He did say he was going to post said bullshit here and in his new group, but I guess he changed his mind on that too.
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He's gone again. Gave me some of the thickest, stickyest, and stinkiest bullshit I've heard on these boards. He did say he was going to post said bullshit here and in his new group, but I guess he changed his mind on that too.
Blackhawk Down...
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He's gone again. Gave me some of the thickest, stickyest, and stinkiest bullshit I've heard on these boards. He did say he was going to post said bullshit here and in his new group, but I guess he changed his mind on that too.
Blackhawk Down...
Serial Stopper!
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He's gone again. Gave me some of the thickest, stickyest, and stinkiest bullshit I've heard on these boards. He did say he was going to post said bullshit here and in his new group, but I guess he changed his mind on that too.
Blackhawk Down...
Serial Stopper!
Big Pussy..................
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Bump so Blackhawks can read what it was like last time he stopped for 265 days.
Read all these posts again BH. Look at all the quitters on here that took time out of their days back in Feb 2014 when you chose to crap in the house. They didn't turn their backs on you, they stood by you, giving you some tough love on the way, no doubt. Here you are again though after swearing up and down that the last stoppage was in fact going to be your one and only quit.
Now you come back saying that what will be different this time is you will be using nicotine lozenges 'facepalm''
If you're serious we'll know. If you're not, we'll know that too. I would highly recommend actually swapping digits with guys in your group, and texting with them every single day to show them you are doing something differently this time. In your own words: "this is life or death." Take it to heart this time.
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Now you come back saying that what will be different this time is you will be using nicotine lozenges
For someone that stopped for 265 days with KTC help and knows that this is a nicotine free site, coming here and saying that is trolling! Looks like time for banning Blackhawk unless that stand changes. Quick!!!
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Now you come back saying that what will be different this time is you will be using nicotine lozenges
For someone that stopped for 265 days with KTC help and knows that this is a nicotine free site, coming here and saying that is trolling! Looks like time for banning Blackhawk unless that stand changes. Quick!!!
Thanks to KingNothing for alerting your former quit-group that you are back, but still you don't get it :( Slutember Slayers lost a lot of cavers between 260-280 days of freedom, it's a day count that seems to me like the last major hurdle, and after powering through that my quit has been so easy... Now you are back, but using nic still? Re-reading your first post on this intro made me feel sad. You and I have many things in common (age, love of hockey/sports, young children/family, etc...) and of course until you caved we were in the same quit group... So I am taking some time to tell you true without trying to be mean so try not to get all butt-hurt. If you are serious about quitting KTC style you need to flush all your nicotine and deal with the withdrawl like every bad ass quitter here, and you need to answer the 3 questions especially to the Sluts of September...
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Hey Blackhawks- how about that Kane, Panarin, and Anisimov line!? They sure are fun to watch... It's like men against boys. How's your quit going? You hanging in there?
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Lookie here.
He caved.
Again.
GTFO.
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Lookie here.
He caved.
Again.
GTFO.
Bump.
Dooshbaggery at its finest...
Zero answers.
Zero accountability.
Can we ban this fool already!?!
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Lookie here.
He caved.
Again.
GTFO.
Bump.
Dooshbaggery at its finest...
Zero answers.
Zero accountability.
Can we ban this fool already!?!
Cavers suck.
This place is about brotherhood. A group holding each other accountable. When you shit on brotherhood over and over, the stink doesn't go away. There are places on the internet where you can chew nic gum and line patches up and down your back and people will gently stroke your balls and call you pretty... This is not that place.
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Lookie here.
He caved.
Again.
GTFO.
Bump.
Dooshbaggery at its finest...
Zero answers.
Zero accountability.
Can we ban this fool already!?!
Cavers suck.
This place is about brotherhood. A group holding each other accountable. When you shit on brotherhood over and over, the stink doesn't go away. There are places on the internet where you can chew nic gum and line patches up and down your back and people will gently stroke your balls and call you pretty... This is not that place.
Looks like he gets a pat on the ass, an "At'a boy! Way to try again!", and a special pass for the "3rd times a charm" club.
WTF?
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Lookie here.
He caved.
Again.
GTFO.
Bump.
Dooshbaggery at its finest...
Zero answers.
Zero accountability.
Can we ban this fool already!?!
Cavers suck.
This place is about brotherhood. A group holding each other accountable. When you shit on brotherhood over and over, the stink doesn't go away. There are places on the internet where you can chew nic gum and line patches up and down your back and people will gently stroke your balls and call you pretty... This is not that place.
Looks like he gets a pat on the ass, an "At'a boy! Way to try again!", and a special pass for the "3rd times a charm" club.
WTF?
like i just said in another thread...
its sad to see repeated cavers, weak and not answering the three questions with any degree of introspection, not be banned. There was a time when you would be referred to http://www.quitsmokeless.org/ (http://www.quitsmokeless.org/) and sent on your way. This site used to be for those who wanted real accountability. There can be no accountability if get out of jail free cards are handed out with no end. If you were in my quit group, I would drive you out with shame and refer you to "Lite" at http://www.quitsmokeless.org/ (http://www.quitsmokeless.org/)
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Lookie here.
He caved.
Again.
GTFO.
Bump.
Dooshbaggery at its finest...
Zero answers.
Zero accountability.
Can we ban this fool already!?!
Cavers suck.
This place is about brotherhood. A group holding each other accountable. When you shit on brotherhood over and over, the stink doesn't go away. There are places on the internet where you can chew nic gum and line patches up and down your back and people will gently stroke your balls and call you pretty... This is not that place.
Looks like he gets a pat on the ass, an "At'a boy! Way to try again!", and a special pass for the "3rd times a charm" club.
WTF?
like i just said in another thread...
its sad to see repeated cavers, weak and not answering the three questions with any degree of introspection, not be banned. There was a time when you would be referred to http://www.quitsmokeless.org/ (http://www.quitsmokeless.org/) and sent on your way. This site used to be for those who wanted real accountability. There can be no accountability if get out of jail free cards are handed out with no end. If you were in my quit group, I would drive you out with shame and refer you to "Lite" at http://www.quitsmokeless.org/ (http://www.quitsmokeless.org/)
I agree Brett. The extreme is slowly leaking out if these halls. Pathetic.
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Lookie here.
He caved.
Again.
GTFO.
Bump.
Dooshbaggery at its finest...
Zero answers.
Zero accountability.
Can we ban this fool already!?!
Cavers suck.
This place is about brotherhood. A group holding each other accountable. When you shit on brotherhood over and over, the stink doesn't go away. There are places on the internet where you can chew nic gum and line patches up and down your back and people will gently stroke your balls and call you pretty... This is not that place.
Looks like he gets a pat on the ass, an "At'a boy! Way to try again!", and a special pass for the "3rd times a charm" club.
WTF?
like i just said in another thread...
its sad to see repeated cavers, weak and not answering the three questions with any degree of introspection, not be banned. There was a time when you would be referred to http://www.quitsmokeless.org/ (http://www.quitsmokeless.org/) and sent on your way. This site used to be for those who wanted real accountability. There can be no accountability if get out of jail free cards are handed out with no end. If you were in my quit group, I would drive you out with shame and refer you to "Lite" at http://www.quitsmokeless.org/ (http://www.quitsmokeless.org/)
I agree Brett. The extreme is slowly leaking out if these halls. Pathetic.
Coming up on noon central time. No roll post.
Unsurprised.
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Lookie here.
He caved.
Again.
GTFO.
Bump.
Dooshbaggery at its finest...
Zero answers.
Zero accountability.
Can we ban this fool already!?!
Cavers suck.
This place is about brotherhood. A group holding each other accountable. When you shit on brotherhood over and over, the stink doesn't go away. There are places on the internet where you can chew nic gum and line patches up and down your back and people will gently stroke your balls and call you pretty... This is not that place.
Looks like he gets a pat on the ass, an "At'a boy! Way to try again!", and a special pass for the "3rd times a charm" club.
WTF?
like i just said in another thread...
its sad to see repeated cavers, weak and not answering the three questions with any degree of introspection, not be banned. There was a time when you would be referred to http://www.quitsmokeless.org/ (http://www.quitsmokeless.org/) and sent on your way. This site used to be for those who wanted real accountability. There can be no accountability if get out of jail free cards are handed out with no end. If you were in my quit group, I would drive you out with shame and refer you to "Lite" at http://www.quitsmokeless.org/ (http://www.quitsmokeless.org/)
I agree Brett. The extreme is slowly leaking out if these halls. Pathetic.
Sitting here bored watchin my kids bounce around at some trampoline place and I read this complete and utter bullshit.
I guess Blackhawk is just going to cave and fail whenever he fucking feels like it and then when he gets called out, he will just hide behind science and "studys show most people relapse, blah blah blah..."
What a crock of bullshit. I read his answer to the 3 questions...also a canned crock of predictable bullshit..."Ahhh well you guys, I got in a fight with my wife and was really ahhh mad so you know I naturally just popped in a dip. But ahhh ya know this time I didn't go on a 3 month bender, I quit the very next day so ahhh ya know, I think that really shows how committed I am to this. Yeah, ahhh I won't do it again..."
Big fat fucking fart noise....
Yeah dude, you're the only one who ever had a fight with your wife or got really mad during your "quit". Nothing like that has ever happened to anyone on here. Oh no. There's not a guy on here battling CANCER or anything. People have never had loved ones die, got divorced, lost jobs, went through horrible anxiety, depression, etc...
Oh no, you're a special kind of butterfly.
Fuck what science and studies say and pull your head out your fucking ass. How about you find some testicular fortitude and man the fuck up and actually put up a fight.
You aren't quitting. Your stopping and then building pillows for a soft landing every time you fail.
This isn't a state funded "quit site" where you get credit for a good college try. The motto around here isn't "never quit quit quitting". That's fucking canned loser speak. You can get that rah rah bullshit off a pamphlet in your doctor's office. They will cup your balls for making it a few weeks and tell you "good job, buddy! Get back on that horse and quit again".
You want to go that route go aheah. There are resources for the pussy path. Maybe you need some nicotine gum or some nicotine suppositories to insert into your vagina? Ohhh...I know, maybe you need to get a mod and start hitting the doosh flue and become one of those trendy "vapors". Yeah...I think I read a study or article in pussy ass magazine the other day that said that vaping was safer than chewing.
Maybe you're just really not serious about quit ring yet your using a serious place to camouflage your weak attempt. Maybe it's time you move on, since you can't take this serious.
Ktc is for serious quitters. If you continually shit all over it and the people here to support you, then maybe you need to get the fuck out.
Diesel out...
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Hey Blackhawks, I am writing this letter ahead of time. I'm guessing you'll only read it if you come back for a 4th time, to join a new quit group, ...your 4th quit group sometime in the future. How are you going to be accepted into a 4th group, knowing especially that you didn't take posting roll seriously in your 3rd group. You posted roll yesterday and Quit Phlanax today, just after 200 days of being quit. Will you stay quit on your own? Will you reach out to your Phlanax brothers if you are struggling? Or will you be back once again, ready to quit for 1/2 year at a time, which really isn't quiting is it?
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.....I definitely plan on being more accountable this time....my life depends on it.....
You let accountability slip through your fingers, your "plan" didn't work. Maybe you should have COMMITTED to being accountable.
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.....I definitely plan on being more accountable this time....my life depends on it.....
You let accountability slip through your fingers, your "plan" didn't work. Maybe you should have COMMITTED to being accountable.
Is this dipshit multi-cave asshat actually leaving!?!
Good riddance.
He and his mentality are a taint to all the real quitters laying down their all to Quit.
What a fool.