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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Dlee3 on January 15, 2013, 09:50:00 PM
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Hey guys,
I found this site last June, but I've been quitting for about fifteen and a half years. I thoroughly enjoyed the first six months when I was nineteen. Anyway, it is absolutely ridiculous that I still dip. February 6 will make five years since my wife died of a brain tumor. She was only 29 years old. My daughter was two and a half when she died. The kid will be 8 in April and I'm going to give her one bad ass birthday present. On her birthday I'll be at 91 days. I say close enough. But I will make 100 days. I will make ten thousand days.
I decided yesterday that not only did I dislike myself, I absolutely hated myself. I decided I needed to quit attaching my potential quits with special dates and I just said, "Fuck it, tomorrow it is." I went out and got a case of beer, got drunk, took my last two dips and threw the rest of the can away. Other than the hangover, I've been smiling all day. I liked myself today. I already feel a headache coming on, but I'm going to smile through it. Thanks to whatever freaking genius gave me this site and these stories and all those scary-as-hell pictures, and I'm proud as hell of every one of you. I'm going to be proud of me soon, too. Thanks in advance for being there for me in the coming days, weeks, and months. I'm sure I'm going to need you.
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Hey guys,
I found this site last June, but I've been quitting for about fifteen and a half years. I thoroughly enjoyed the first six months when I was nineteen. Anyway, it is absolutely ridiculous that I still dip. February 6 will make five years since my wife died of a brain tumor. She was only 29 years old. My daughter was two and a half when she died. The kid will be 8 in April and I'm going to give her one bad ass birthday present. On her birthday I'll be at 91 days. I say close enough. But I will make 100 days. I will make ten thousand days.
I decided yesterday that not only did I dislike myself, I absolutely hated myself. I decided I needed to quit attaching my potential quits with special dates and I just said, "Fuck it, tomorrow it is." I went out and got a case of beer, got drunk, took my last two dips and threw the rest of the can away. Other than the hangover, I've been smiling all day. I liked myself today. I already feel a headache coming on, but I'm going to smile through it. Thanks to whatever freaking genius gave me this site and these stories and all those scary-as-hell pictures, and I'm proud as hell of every one of you. I'm going to be proud of me soon, too. Thanks in advance for being there for me in the coming days, weeks, and months. I'm sure I'm going to need you.
Denton
Denton,
Nice job man, congrats on your quit. I'm going to point out that you have not been quitting for 15 years, you've wanted to but you have not. Now you have, welcome to the club. Looks like you've been checking this out for good long time. Go post roll and then do it every day, 1st thing in the morning, I'll quit with you and so will a ton of other guys here.
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Welcome to the quit my fellow April quit brother. 2 days in for me (fucking sucks ass, but so worth it) embrace the pain..amirite? Am here if u need me.
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Welcome and congrats on quitting. With this site, quitting is not only possible but you will notice positive changes in all areas of your life in no time. The first week or so sucks ass, I won't lie. Drink this KTC wisdom down, keep reading everything, post roll early each day, and keep your word to yourself and us.
Quit for today. Tomorrow will work itself out then.
When the fog is thick and you don't know your name, get on this site, or better yet go to Live Chat and vent on us. Don't ever take out your frustration on family, especially that little girl that has already suffered enough. You are her dad, the most important person in her life now and forever. She needs you, your love, guidance, and support. Never forget it.
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Detton you are where I was 290 days ago. I had a very hard time saying it but it was true. I hated myself and everything about my life, all because of what my addiction was doing to me. In fact my quit worked or I had settled on ending my life. This was my last try. As a 40 year addict I doubted that this time would be different than the 100's of previous attempts over the years. I planned my quit and was doing everything I could to insure success, that is when I stumbled onto KTC. I moved my quit date up 11 days and drank deep of the quit koolaid and have been here early every morning and promised myself and a bunch of other addicts that I can do it one more day. You have a special reminder each day you have a reason to live. I found a surprise in quitting and I know you will too. I found someone in myself that I've never known (someone I actually am learning to like). I'm extending my hand to you for any support you may need. Pm me if you want my #. One thing I suggest avoid alcohol for the next 60 - 80 days at least, alcohol has killed way to many quits.
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Detton you are where I was 290 days ago. I had a very hard time saying it but it was true. I hated myself and everything about my life, all because of what my addiction was doing to me. In fact my quit worked or I had settled on ending my life. This was my last try. As a 40 year addict I doubted that this time would be different than the 100's of previous attempts over the years. I planned my quit and was doing everything I could to insure success, that is when I stumbled onto KTC. I moved my quit date up 11 days and drank deep of the quit koolaid and have been here early every morning and promised myself and a bunch of other addicts that I can do it one more day. You have a special reminder each day you have a reason to live. I found a surprise in quitting and I know you will too. I found someone in myself that I've never known (someone I actually am learning to like). I'm extending my hand to you for any support you may need. Pm me if you want my #. One thing I suggest avoid alcohol for the next 60 - 80 days at least, alcohol has killed way to many quits.
WT, that's why I got the case of beer to go along with my old friend Kodiak. I'm doing at least a hundred days on it, too, and I'll probably decide I don't need it either. I'm not an addict with beer, but I'm a man. I love beer. But like you, I'm ready to find the man that I really used to like. You know what else? Everybody in my life for the past five years has told me what an awesome job I've done as a single father. In all aspects but that of slowly killing myself, they are absolutely correct. I love that young'un. Now I'm going to prove it and look at everybody and be able to know I am doing a great job as a single daddy.
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First off, listen to WT, he's a bad mama Jamma. Helped many quit around here, including myself.
You haven't been "yourself" in years bro. So you havent been hating "yourself" you've been hating what nicotine has turned you into, thus you have been hating nicotine...not yourself .
Regardless, it's time to start loving yourself, "the real you", again. Time to step out of the dark shadows of being addict, time to dig deep, time to grow the fuck up. It's time.
I'm here to help you man. Something about your intro got to me. Sounds like you've been through some shit, and are tired of being a slave. I like hearing shit like that. I get off on it because I hated myself too, except I didn't know it until after I quit. It feels so good to love myself again, that I cant even explain it. Its beyond words.
If I can help in anyway to get you to that place, I will do it. I'm here for you man, and so are a lot of other bad ass heavy hitting quitters. Use me, use them, use US!!! Pm me anytime if you want my digits or have any questions.
You WILL do this. It's time...
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Welcome Denton! Congrats on your quit. I'm still a newbie on Day 47....but I'm a grinder. 25 years can a day guy here. I remember someone reached out to me on day 3 or 4 of Quit to see how I was doing. I told him I was doing ok and I was in it for the long haul. He said only Quit for today. Don't chew today. Wake up tomorrow and do it all over again. That stuck with me.
Your story is touching. There are a lot of people that have your back here. You can do it brother. One day at time. I have young children too and would take a bullet for them. But I will not kill myself anymore with chew....
Congrats again. You can do this......Post your roll every day. KC Bronco
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Welcome to KTC. If you are serious about quitting, then this is the place. We're here for you. Make sure you post roll everyday. This keeps you accountable to the guys that are quitting with you. Get to know them and exchange digits, pm, email, etc. If you need anything, pm me.
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You guys are awesome already. Thanks for every word. Got in the bed last night with a bottle of water and my Ipad and downloaded the newest Mitch Albom book called the Timekeeper, I think. Kept stopping to get on here and read quitter stories and cried several times. This is some hard shit, but I made it through day one. Slept like broken glass was in my bed, but I laid there all night. Thanks again, guys.
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Day 2 brother...piece of pie! Stay strong
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You have made a great choice, welcome to a great site with the best people! Scroll down and read what Evil_Won wrote again, that hits it right on the head. Don't be afraid to reach out, we have all been there and we all promise one day at a time. Mike
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So with day two almost in the books, me and the kid are eating dinner tonight and I get up to wash the dishes. Here's the conversation:
Kid - "Daddy, I wrote a song."
Me - "Oh yeah? Sing it for me."
The kid starts trying to come up with something she probably never wrote and says, "Well, I don't remember anything but the chorus."
Me - "Well that works. Sing it for me."
And here is the freaking timely chorus to this made up song on the second day of my quit: "If you believe in your life, if you believe you're going to have a good life, you'll have a good life."
She sang that twice and I had to leave the room.... to write it down so I wouldn't forget it. Unbelievable timeliness, unbelievable kid!!!
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So with day two almost in the books, me and the kid are eating dinner tonight and I get up to wash the dishes. Here's the conversation:
Kid - "Daddy, I wrote a song."
Me - "Oh yeah? Sing it for me."
The kid starts trying to come up with something she probably never wrote and says, "Well, I don't remember anything but the chorus."
Me - "Well that works. Sing it for me."
And here is the freaking timely chorus to this made up song on the second day of my quit: "If you believe in your life, if you believe you're going to have a good life, you'll have a good life."
She sang that twice and I had to leave the room.... to write it down so I wouldn't forget it. Unbelievable timeliness, unbelievable kid!!!
Fantastic! Hold onto that moment. I don't believe that was a coincidence.
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So with day two almost in the books, me and the kid are eating dinner tonight and I get up to wash the dishes. Here's the conversation:
Kid - "Daddy, I wrote a song."
Me - "Oh yeah? Sing it for me."
The kid starts trying to come up with something she probably never wrote and says, "Well, I don't remember anything but the chorus."
Me - "Well that works. Sing it for me."
And here is the freaking timely chorus to this made up song on the second day of my quit: "If you believe in your life, if you believe you're going to have a good life, you'll have a good life."
She sang that twice and I had to leave the room.... to write it down so I wouldn't forget it. Unbelievable timeliness, unbelievable kid!!!
Believe my man. Believe you can quit this shit. Not always gonna be easy but it will always be worth it. I'm proud to be quit with you today.
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Dude.......that's some gooood shit right there!
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So who do I cuss out and thoroughly lambaste for not giving me 100% roll posting on the Google doc associated with April '13? Haven't missed a day but I'm showing up as 90% and I am PISSED!! (okay, so not really.) I refuse to get a B on my quit, however. I'm in grad school and have straight A's through 7 classes and I'm getting a B trying to quit dipping and this shit is ten times as hard as school. Other than that, have a great day, guys.
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On second glance, NOBODY is at 100%. Perhaps it'll fix itself tonight.
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So who do I cuss out and thoroughly lambaste for not giving me 100% roll posting on the Google doc associated with April '13? Haven't missed a day but I'm showing up as 90% and I am PISSED!! (okay, so not really.) I refuse to get a B on my quit, however. I'm in grad school and have straight A's through 7 classes and I'm getting a B trying to quit dipping and this shit is ten times as hard as school. Other than that, have a great day, guys.
That is the fire I love to see! Your doing 100%! Check with those doing your spreedsheet, you may have gotten bumped. I had some major rage on day 7 8 and was ready to kill someone. Remember we are here!
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It was fake rage. Never knew this shit could actually be a little bit fun. Noticed last night that my entire tongue was even completely pink again. Need to go get me a yeast infection!! :P
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It was fake rage. Never knew this shit could actually be a little bit fun. Noticed last night that my entire tongue was even completely pink again. Need to go get me a yeast infection!! :P
Diesel is always ready!! Unless he is space docking with DAG!
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Sorry Quit peeps! I have been MIA past couple days but I just got done reading this thread and I am liking the quit!! I quit with you brother!!!
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BTW, I've been religious to this damn website for nearly two weeks and I keep noticing how most of you vets have green squares under your name. What do they signify and when/how do I get my green squares? Just curious.
And wt57, I have never met Diesel and, though I'm sure his yeast infections are world class infections, I would prefer to get a yeast infection from a woman. I would prefer not to get one at all, but given an option, her handle would probably not reference petroleum. :) Thanks for the laugh, WT.
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It was fake rage. Never knew this shit could actually be a little bit fun. Noticed last night that my entire tongue was even completely pink again. Need to go get me a yeast infection!! :P
Diesel is always ready!! Unless he is space docking with DAG!
I am always ready for action...
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BTW, I've been religious to this damn website for nearly two weeks and I keep noticing how most of you vets have green squares under your name. What do they signify and when/how do I get my green squares? Just curious.
And wt57, I have never met Diesel and, though I'm sure his yeast infections are world class infections, I would prefer to get a yeast infection from a woman. I would prefer not to get one at all, but given an option, her handle would probably not reference petroleum. :) Thanks for the laugh, WT.
I believe you get a little green square for every 100 posts you make. I just noticed I have 6 squares now and just clipped the 600 post mark. Seems like a lot until I look at other guys who have thousands of posts. A lot of people doing work to help others remain quit in here. You can't get that kind of support from a titanium jock strap but you could get a yeast infection.
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BTW, I've been religious to this damn website for nearly two weeks and I keep noticing how most of you vets have green squares under your name. What do they signify and when/how do I get my green squares? Just curious.
And wt57, I have never met Diesel and, though I'm sure his yeast infections are world class infections, I would prefer to get a yeast infection from a woman. I would prefer not to get one at all, but given an option, her handle would probably not reference petroleum. :) Thanks for the laugh, WT.
I believe you get a little green square for every 100 posts you make. I just noticed I have 6 squares now and just clipped the 600 post mark. Seems like a lot until I look at other guys who have thousands of posts. A lot of people doing work to help others remain quit in here. You can't get that kind of support from a titanium jock strap but you could get a yeast infection.
Some days all we can do is quit and laugh! How does that saying go? Laughter is chicken soup for the soul Funny I've never noticed the green squares, are you sure that its not the times you have pissed off a mod or admin. lol
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BTW, I've been religious to this damn website for nearly two weeks and I keep noticing how most of you vets have green squares under your name. What do they signify and when/how do I get my green squares? Just curious.
And wt57, I have never met Diesel and, though I'm sure his yeast infections are world class infections, I would prefer to get a yeast infection from a woman. I would prefer not to get one at all, but given an option, her handle would probably not reference petroleum. :) Thanks for the laugh, WT.
I believe you get a little green square for every 100 posts you make. I just noticed I have 6 squares now and just clipped the 600 post mark. Seems like a lot until I look at other guys who have thousands of posts. A lot of people doing work to help others remain quit in here. You can't get that kind of support from a titanium jock strap but you could get a yeast infection.
Some days all we can do is quit and laugh! How does that saying go? Laughter is chicken soup for the soul Funny I've never noticed the green squares, are you sure that its not the times you have pissed off a mod or admin. lol
Green Squares are awarded for the following achievements
Square One
You have to spend 10 minutes in the closet with Gmann. a case of lukewarm enchiladas, and a animatronic donkey.
Square Two
Go to the local 7-11 wearing only a ballerina tutu a raccoon hat and clown shoes that honk when you walk. When anyone comes in you must tell them " this is what happens when you chew tobacco" While river dancing.
Square Three
Find a Jehovah witness church and proceed to loudly interrupt all their functions by barging in and asking if they would like to talk about the Gospel of Quit according to Loot. Extra points for offering them the Enchilladas from the closet and wearing the raccoon hat.
Square Four
You must master the art of juggling monkeys. Live monkeys. Bonus points if the monkeys or you are on fire during the activity.
Square Five
Mail all the burnt monkeys from your previous endeavor to the C.E.O. of U.S Tobacco, demand a formal apology letter from him for being a drug dealing, lying, douche nozzle. If his attorney responds negatively you may at your option, shit in the raccoon hat and mail it to the attorney postage due.
Square 6
If offered a dip at any point in your quit you are required to take the can. Place it on the ground. Stomp the shit out of it with your honking clown shoes, while giggling like a window licking half wit. If the owner of the can takes offense you may punch him in the windpipe with the force of Chuck Norris on steroids. When the cops come you can explain that you were defending yourself from attempted murder. Bonus points if your acquitted.
Square 7
You must wear a bra and outrageously huge fake boobs to the local pharmacy. When ever anyone tries to by nicorette or the patch, you should point to your boobs and exclaim " side effects" Then picket the pharmacy counter until they admit that NRT doesn't work. Extra points for flatulence that clears the whole store.
Square 8
Enter the gas station of your choice with a mouth full of Oreo's and slightly curdled buttermilk. When the clerk asks what you would like. Sneeze on the tobacco rack.
Say nothing.
Square 9
Help a fellow quitter make it through the day. By writing a preposterous post.
Square 10
Stay quit.
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BTW, I've been religious to this damn website for nearly two weeks and I keep noticing how most of you vets have green squares under your name. What do they signify and when/how do I get my green squares? Just curious.
And wt57, I have never met Diesel and, though I'm sure his yeast infections are world class infections, I would prefer to get a yeast infection from a woman. I would prefer not to get one at all, but given an option, her handle would probably not reference petroleum. :) Thanks for the laugh, WT.
I believe you get a little green square for every 100 posts you make. I just noticed I have 6 squares now and just clipped the 600 post mark. Seems like a lot until I look at other guys who have thousands of posts. A lot of people doing work to help others remain quit in here. You can't get that kind of support from a titanium jock strap but you could get a yeast infection.
Some days all we can do is quit and laugh! How does that saying go? Laughter is chicken soup for the soul Funny I've never noticed the green squares, are you sure that its not the times you have pissed off a mod or admin. lol
Green Squares are awarded for the following achievements
Square One
You have to spend 10 minutes in the closet with Gmann. a case of lukewarm enchiladas, and a animatronic donkey.
Square Two
Go to the local 7-11 wearing only a ballerina tutu a raccoon hat and clown shoes that honk when you walk. When anyone comes in you must tell them " this is what happens when you chew tobacco" While river dancing.
Square Three
Find a Jehovah witness church and proceed to loudly interrupt all their functions by barging in and asking if they would like to talk about the Gospel of Quit according to Loot. Extra points for offering them the Enchilladas from the closet and wearing the raccoon hat.
Square Four
You must master the art of juggling monkeys. Live monkeys. Bonus points if the monkeys or you are on fire during the activity.
Square Five
Mail all the burnt monkeys from your previous endeavor to the C.E.O. of U.S Tobacco, demand a formal apology letter from him for being a drug dealing, lying, douche nozzle. If his attorney responds negatively you may at your option, shit in the raccoon hat and mail it to the attorney postage due.
Square 6
If offered a dip at any point in your quit you are required to take the can. Place it on the ground. Stomp the shit out of it with your honking clown shoes, while giggling like a window licking half wit. If the owner of the can takes offense you may punch him in the windpipe with the force of Chuck Norris on steroids. When the cops come you can explain that you were defending yourself from attempted murder. Bonus points if your acquitted.
Square 7
You must wear a bra and outrageously huge fake boobs to the local pharmacy. When ever anyone tries to by nicorette or the patch, you should point to your boobs and exclaim " side effects" Then picket the pharmacy counter until they admit that NRT doesn't work. Extra points for flatulence that clears the whole store.
Square 8
Enter the gas station of your choice with a mouth full of Oreo's and slightly curdled buttermilk. When the clerk asks what you would like. Sneeze on the tobacco rack.
Say nothing.
Square 9
Help a fellow quitter make it through the day. By writing a preposterous post.
Square 10
Stay quit.
hahahahahaha that was good
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That was friggin' hilarious, dude. You have one hell of an imagination. Either that or you are more than a little loco. Thanks for the laugh.
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BTW, I've been religious to this damn website for nearly two weeks and I keep noticing how most of you vets have green squares under your name. What do they signify and when/how do I get my green squares? Just curious.
And wt57, I have never met Diesel and, though I'm sure his yeast infections are world class infections, I would prefer to get a yeast infection from a woman. I would prefer not to get one at all, but given an option, her handle would probably not reference petroleum. :) Thanks for the laugh, WT.
I believe you get a little green square for every 100 posts you make. I just noticed I have 6 squares now and just clipped the 600 post mark. Seems like a lot until I look at other guys who have thousands of posts. A lot of people doing work to help others remain quit in here. You can't get that kind of support from a titanium jock strap but you could get a yeast infection.
Some days all we can do is quit and laugh! How does that saying go? Laughter is chicken soup for the soul Funny I've never noticed the green squares, are you sure that its not the times you have pissed off a mod or admin. lol
Green Squares are awarded for the following achievements
Square One
You have to spend 10 minutes in the closet with Gmann. a case of lukewarm enchiladas, and a animatronic donkey.
Square Two
Go to the local 7-11 wearing only a ballerina tutu a raccoon hat and clown shoes that honk when you walk. When anyone comes in you must tell them " this is what happens when you chew tobacco" While river dancing.
Square Three
Find a Jehovah witness church and proceed to loudly interrupt all their functions by barging in and asking if they would like to talk about the Gospel of Quit according to Loot. Extra points for offering them the Enchilladas from the closet and wearing the raccoon hat.
Square Four
You must master the art of juggling monkeys. Live monkeys. Bonus points if the monkeys or you are on fire during the activity.
Square Five
Mail all the burnt monkeys from your previous endeavor to the C.E.O. of U.S Tobacco, demand a formal apology letter from him for being a drug dealing, lying, douche nozzle. If his attorney responds negatively you may at your option, shit in the raccoon hat and mail it to the attorney postage due.
Square 6
If offered a dip at any point in your quit you are required to take the can. Place it on the ground. Stomp the shit out of it with your honking clown shoes, while giggling like a window licking half wit. If the owner of the can takes offense you may punch him in the windpipe with the force of Chuck Norris on steroids. When the cops come you can explain that you were defending yourself from attempted murder. Bonus points if your acquitted.
Square 7
You must wear a bra and outrageously huge fake boobs to the local pharmacy. When ever anyone tries to by nicorette or the patch, you should point to your boobs and exclaim " side effects" Then picket the pharmacy counter until they admit that NRT doesn't work. Extra points for flatulence that clears the whole store.
Square 8
Enter the gas station of your choice with a mouth full of Oreo's and slightly curdled buttermilk. When the clerk asks what you would like. Sneeze on the tobacco rack.
Say nothing.
Square 9
Help a fellow quitter make it through the day. By writing a preposterous post.
Square 10
Stay quit.
hahahahahaha that was good
Wish I could have skipped that 1st square! But 10 is great!!
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That was friggin' hilarious, dude. You have one hell of an imagination. Either that or you are more than a little loco. Thanks for the laugh.
Door #2, alex. SM is a friggin lunatic quitter.
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Two questions from a stupid noob:
First, and don't take this to mean I'm ready to pound my fingers into a can of Kodiak after 24 days, but I'm wondering if a particular problem hit a lot of you. Are you (or were you in the beginning) just sad for absolutely no reason? Over the past week or so, I just get depressed even when nothing bad happens in my daily life. I don't know how to describe it really. I would just call it a deep, deep sadness, almost like grief and maybe worse than grief. Not boohoo crying grief, but wanting to stick your head under a pillow and not come out for three days grief. I know a little something about that, and this rates right up there.
Second question: Anybody get dull headaches behind the eyes that last all day, almost like sinus headaches but without the inability to breathe through your nose? It's the kind of headache that only really makes sense because of withdrawal. Again, just curious. I know the cure for such a headache and I ain't going there. Thanks guys.
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Two questions from a stupid noob:
First, and don't take this to mean I'm ready to pound my fingers into a can of Kodiak after 24 days, but I'm wondering if a particular problem hit a lot of you. Are you (or were you in the beginning) just sad for absolutely no reason? Over the past week or so, I just get depressed even when nothing bad happens in my daily life. I don't know how to describe it really. I would just call it a deep, deep sadness, almost like grief and maybe worse than grief. Not boohoo crying grief, but wanting to stick your head under a pillow and not come out for three days grief. I know a little something about that, and this rates right up there.
Second question: Anybody get dull headaches behind the eyes that last all day, almost like sinus headaches but without the inability to breathe through your nose? It's the kind of headache that only really makes sense because of withdrawal. Again, just curious. I know the cure for such a headache and I ain't going there. Thanks guys.
A resounding yes to both. I'm twenty days out from the HOF and i still get some lingering 'blues." Breathe deep, pray, exercise, whatever just keep moving forward and keep your daily promise. The headache was another annoying part for me too, but it too will go away, i promise. Just stay with us, fight hard, dig deep and wake up every morning with that tenacious attitude thats gotten you this far. Proud of you man.
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Two questions from a stupid noob:Â
First, and don't take this to mean I'm ready to pound my fingers into a can of Kodiak after 24 days, but I'm wondering if a particular problem hit a lot of you. Are you (or were you in the beginning) just sad for absolutely no reason? Over the past week or so, I just get depressed even when nothing bad happens in my daily life. I don't know how to describe it really. I would just call it a deep, deep sadness, almost like grief and maybe worse than grief. Not boohoo crying grief, but wanting to stick your head under a pillow and not come out for three days grief. I know a little something about that, and this rates right up there.
Second question: Anybody get dull headaches behind the eyes that last all day, almost like sinus headaches but without the inability to breathe through your nose? It's the kind of headache that only really makes sense because of withdrawal. Again, just curious. I know the cure for such a headache and I ain't going there. Thanks guys.
A resounding yes to both. I'm twenty days out from the HOF and i still get some lingering 'blues." Breathe deep, pray, exercise, whatever just keep moving forward and keep your daily promise. The headache was another annoying part for me too, but it too will go away, i promise. Just stay with us, fight hard, dig deep and wake up every morning with that tenacious attitude thats gotten you this far. Proud of you man.
Brain chemistry / dopamine receptor recovery is probably the root cause of a lot of the funks, fogs, etc that happen when we quit.
I went through a lot of that kind of shit through the first 100-150 days - the time between will get longer and the duration will get shorter, but a word of caution that some of them can be very intense even though the duration is pretty short lived
The recommendation of water, exercise, and sleep are good ones; if it gets really bad or becomes a bigger concern, please seek medical attention. While we are all big, bad ass quitters very very few of us are medical professionals and none of us are qualified to treat you over the internet. The point of quitting is to save your life, so dont risk it on something like depression or whatnot
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Two questions from a stupid noob:Â
First, and don't take this to mean I'm ready to pound my fingers into a can of Kodiak after 24 days, but I'm wondering if a particular problem hit a lot of you. Are you (or were you in the beginning) just sad for absolutely no reason? Over the past week or so, I just get depressed even when nothing bad happens in my daily life. I don't know how to describe it really. I would just call it a deep, deep sadness, almost like grief and maybe worse than grief. Not boohoo crying grief, but wanting to stick your head under a pillow and not come out for three days grief. I know a little something about that, and this rates right up there.
Second question: Anybody get dull headaches behind the eyes that last all day, almost like sinus headaches but without the inability to breathe through your nose? It's the kind of headache that only really makes sense because of withdrawal. Again, just curious. I know the cure for such a headache and I ain't going there. Thanks guys.
A resounding yes to both. I'm twenty days out from the HOF and i still get some lingering 'blues." Breathe deep, pray, exercise, whatever just keep moving forward and keep your daily promise. The headache was another annoying part for me too, but it too will go away, i promise. Just stay with us, fight hard, dig deep and wake up every morning with that tenacious attitude thats gotten you this far. Proud of you man.
Brain chemistry / dopamine receptor recovery is probably the root cause of a lot of the funks, fogs, etc that happen when we quit.
I went through a lot of that kind of shit through the first 100-150 days - the time between will get longer and the duration will get shorter, but a word of caution that some of them can be very intense even though the duration is pretty short lived
The recommendation of water, exercise, and sleep are good ones; if it gets really bad or becomes a bigger concern, please seek medical attention. While we are all big, bad ass quitters very very few of us are medical professionals and none of us are qualified to treat you over the internet. The point of quitting is to save your life, so dont risk it on something like depression or whatnot
Neurotoxic, pesticide, will do nasty things to a fellas brain when used over a long period.
Nicotine rewires your brain and your ability to regulate endorphins, adrenaline, and dopamine. It literally hijacks your body's chemical reward system. It steals your ability to feel good without it.
When you are recovering from being held chemically hostage things are gonna get a bit wonky. Can't sleep, then sleep all the time. Can't concentrate. Psychotic rage for no apparent reason, then cry at an episode of Full House. Can't motivate to change the channel, then have enough energy to paint the house. Sound familiar?
Totally normal. Your nicotine soaked brain is just trying to figure shit out. The body will heal itself but right now your like Bambi on ice. You are going to need to be patient with yourself and allow your brain to rewire. As the nicotine receptors die off and new neural pathways form , you'll feel better. Be patient.
The headaches are simpler. It is literally caused by MORE oxygen getting to the brain than your used to. That's a good thing, may make you smarter. They usually pass pretty quickly as your noggin adapts. When you used nicotine it constricted you blood vessels, without it your BP is probably lower and your circulation has improved.
Best thing you can do to keep from acting like a Hells Angel with PMS is to exercise. Even a walk around the block a few times a day will do it. Studies have shown that exercise will reduce both the duration and frequency of craves. It will also help regulate your emotions. I literally would leave the office and walk around the building a few times a day.
One day at a time
sm
LINK TO NICOTINE ADDICTION 101
http://ffn.yuku.com/topic/112/Nicotine- ... RVo8qXho08 (http://ffn.yuku.com/topic/112/Nicotine-Addiction-101#.URVo8qXho08)
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Ya'll help me out with something. I'm one of those people that analyzes the hell out of thoughts, ideas, basically stuff that I have not considered before. That's my disclosure in this question, because it might seem like nothing, but this has been bugging the shit out of me. It started early last week when it was obviously going to be a shitty week between work, grad school, and realizing each night that there are simply not enough hours in the day. So here goes the thought that has been basically raping my mind:
"I am making a huge sacrifice by quitting."
That's it. That's the thought. Every day it's that or an inbred cousin of that thought. It might be something like, "Is this sacrifice worth it," but I am stuck with the word "sacrifice." I'm better than a month in and I'm 100% in committing to my quit, but that thought feels really, really wrong and selfish. And yet I can't shake it.
But I'm smart enough to know where to come for advice. Somebody please tell me how wrong that thought process is so sacrifice can stop gang-raping my noggin. Thanks!!
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Ya'll help me out with something. I'm one of those people that analyzes the hell out of thoughts, ideas, basically stuff that I have not considered before. That's my disclosure in this question, because it might seem like nothing, but this has been bugging the shit out of me. It started early last week when it was obviously going to be a shitty week between work, grad school, and realizing each night that there are simply not enough hours in the day. So here goes the thought that has been basically raping my mind:
"I am making a huge sacrifice by quitting."
That's it. That's the thought. Every day it's that or an inbred cousin of that thought. It might be something like, "Is this sacrifice worth it," but I am stuck with the word "sacrifice." I'm better than a month in and I'm 100% in committing to my quit, but that thought feels really, really wrong and selfish. And yet I can't shake it.Â
But I'm smart enough to know where to come for advice. Somebody please tell me how wrong that thought process is so sacrifice can stop gang-raping my noggin. Thanks!!
D, everything we do is a sacrifice! My hell, look at all the sacrifices you make for 'the kid'! Are they worth it? Is the sacrifice of grad school worth it? I guess it comes down to you asking yourself, why am I making this sacrifice? If your reason is right the sacrifice is worth it! I could come on here and give you tons of reasons I see my sacrifice is worth it. But those are my reasons. You've been here long enough to see what happens when addicts attempt to quit for the wrong reason. The sacrifice isn't worth it and they cave!
Another way I'd rather look at quitting is: Is the freedom and the satisfaction of quitting worth it? I believe I looked at quitting as a sacrifice for awhile but now I don't! Quitting is a blessing in my life that ranks among the most important events of my life. As a old bastard that is past the child raising years (empty nesters for 13 years), well into having fun with grandkids and well into middle age I can say looking back "I wish like hell I had made the 'sacrifice' when I was your age."
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Ya'll help me out with something. I'm one of those people that analyzes the hell out of thoughts, ideas, basically stuff that I have not considered before. That's my disclosure in this question, because it might seem like nothing, but this has been bugging the shit out of me. It started early last week when it was obviously going to be a shitty week between work, grad school, and realizing each night that there are simply not enough hours in the day. So here goes the thought that has been basically raping my mind:
"I am making a huge sacrifice by quitting."
That's it. That's the thought. Every day it's that or an inbred cousin of that thought. It might be something like, "Is this sacrifice worth it," but I am stuck with the word "sacrifice." I'm better than a month in and I'm 100% in committing to my quit, but that thought feels really, really wrong and selfish. And yet I can't shake it.Â
But I'm smart enough to know where to come for advice. Somebody please tell me how wrong that thought process is so sacrifice can stop gang-raping my noggin. Thanks!!
D, everything we do is a sacrifice! My hell, look at all the sacrifices you make for 'the kid'! Are they worth it? Is the sacrifice of grad school worth it? I guess it comes down to you asking yourself, why am I making this sacrifice? If your reason is right the sacrifice is worth it! I could come on here and give you tons of reasons I see my sacrifice is worth it. But those are my reasons. You've been here long enough to see what happens when addicts attempt to quit for the wrong reason. The sacrifice isn't worth it and they cave!
Another way I'd rather look at quitting is: Is the freedom and the satisfaction of quitting worth it? I believe I looked at quitting as a sacrifice for awhile but now I don't! Quitting is a blessing in my life that ranks among the most important events of my life. As a old bastard that is past the child raising years (empty nesters for 13 years), well into having fun with grandkids and well into middle age I can say looking back "I wish like hell I had made the 'sacrifice' when I was your age."
Thanks, WT. Everything you said goes through my mind a few times a day. As I was reading what you wrote, the thought going through my head was simply the negative connotation I place on the word "sacrifice." I just went over and proved why that feels negative to me. The third definition (after sacrifices to a deities and whatnot) states, "the surrender or destruction of something prized or desirable..."
Something prized or desirable? Nicotine is something prized or desirable? That's my point and the reason I wanted you guys to put something positive in my head. I don't want this to feel like a sacrifice. For the past week, I feel like I'm fighting that negative connotation as much as I fight craves. I have been relentlessly positive about this, but I don't want it to be a sacrifice. This was definitely not a cry-for-help type of post, just a request for a positive spin. You said replace it with freedom and satisfaction. Those are positive spins. That's why I come to my vets. You guys probably remember being a month in. Sometimes it's tough to even find words to replace the negative ones when you're still being rewired.
I'll counter you on one thing you said, and it's only because I'm trying to shake the negativity I find in the word sacrifice (you got me thinking tonight, so thanks for that.) I don't think everything we do should be seen as a sacrifice. For one, I don't want to view fatherhood as a sacrifice. A month ago, when I had to play with the kid rather than stick a wad of shit in my lip, that was, at the time, a sacrifice. Now I'm finding it nothing more than a joy. I won't go into everything I previously saw as a sacrifice, but I'm trying to do that with all of them. I am becoming one introspective son of a bitch during this quit. And I like it!!! Just trying to get nicky to quit monopolizing the sacrifices. Thanks dude.
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Ya'll help me out with something. I'm one of those people that analyzes the hell out of thoughts, ideas, basically stuff that I have not considered before. That's my disclosure in this question, because it might seem like nothing, but this has been bugging the shit out of me. It started early last week when it was obviously going to be a shitty week between work, grad school, and realizing each night that there are simply not enough hours in the day. So here goes the thought that has been basically raping my mind:
"I am making a huge sacrifice by quitting."
That's it. That's the thought. Every day it's that or an inbred cousin of that thought. It might be something like, "Is this sacrifice worth it," but I am stuck with the word "sacrifice." I'm better than a month in and I'm 100% in committing to my quit, but that thought feels really, really wrong and selfish. And yet I can't shake it.Â
But I'm smart enough to know where to come for advice. Somebody please tell me how wrong that thought process is so sacrifice can stop gang-raping my noggin. Thanks!!
Sacrafice? What exactly are you giving up? You're still in love with the nic bitch ain't ya? You only consider quitting something you find pleasurable a true sacrafice.
Fact of the matter is you have absolutely nothing to lose when you quit nic, but everything to gain. Once you stop glamorousing the crap you wont look at it as a sacrafice.
I too looked fondly on my chewing days when i first quit. It felt like i lost an old friend. But like a hack golfer who shoots 120 I really was only remembering the 2 or 3 good shots I had and forgetting the other 118 shitty ones.
Truth is as I look back on it now, most of the time I'd put a chew in for no reason other than my addict brain told me to and a lot of times it tasted like shit. My gums were always sore, my tongue was jacked up and lacked feeling. I was always picking specks out of my teeth. I never wore white. I would often over eat at 100mph just so I could get that after meal dip in. I wasn't getting any buzz from it anymore either. Hell I remember on more than one occasion chasing that buzz by stuffing my lip so full of that crap that I literally got sick to my stomach with nic overload and threw up. Why? I have no idea now looking back on it. I was aaddicted to it, I THOUGHT I needed it, but I didn't and never did. Not like I was living some stress free life while I was dipping. More like I was a lazy fucking liar who THOUGHT dip made life easier. It didn't.
I can honestly say that after 261 days I do not miss it. The few good shots in my round of 120 might be when I play poker or video games, but even now when I really think about it I don't need that crap to enjoy those 2 things and never did. Two things by the way, that are as minor as FUCK in my life. I have a wife and a 7 and 9 year old. Poker and video games really doesn't register too high on my give a shit meter when I really think about it.
I can also honestly say that after a month quit...I did not feel this way. I still did miss it...or so I thought. Racking up the +1's and help from this site will correct that.
I believe you would be making a huge sacrafice by continuing to chew.
A sacrafice to your health, your relationships, your money, your freedom, and ultimately your life. Lets not forget this shit will kill you. I think too many times we lose sight of that fact. You're a young man with you're entire future ahead of you. Are you willing to sacrafice all that for a lip full of chew????
So to answer your question...FUCK NO YOU'RE NOT
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Ya'll help me out with something. I'm one of those people that analyzes the hell out of thoughts, ideas, basically stuff that I have not considered before. That's my disclosure in this question, because it might seem like nothing, but this has been bugging the shit out of me. It started early last week when it was obviously going to be a shitty week between work, grad school, and realizing each night that there are simply not enough hours in the day. So here goes the thought that has been basically raping my mind:
"I am making a huge sacrifice by quitting."
That's it. That's the thought. Every day it's that or an inbred cousin of that thought. It might be something like, "Is this sacrifice worth it," but I am stuck with the word "sacrifice." I'm better than a month in and I'm 100% in committing to my quit, but that thought feels really, really wrong and selfish. And yet I can't shake it.Â
But I'm smart enough to know where to come for advice. Somebody please tell me how wrong that thought process is so sacrifice can stop gang-raping my noggin. Thanks!!
D, everything we do is a sacrifice! My hell, look at all the sacrifices you make for 'the kid'! Are they worth it? Is the sacrifice of grad school worth it? I guess it comes down to you asking yourself, why am I making this sacrifice? If your reason is right the sacrifice is worth it! I could come on here and give you tons of reasons I see my sacrifice is worth it. But those are my reasons. You've been here long enough to see what happens when addicts attempt to quit for the wrong reason. The sacrifice isn't worth it and they cave!
Another way I'd rather look at quitting is: Is the freedom and the satisfaction of quitting worth it? I believe I looked at quitting as a sacrifice for awhile but now I don't! Quitting is a blessing in my life that ranks among the most important events of my life. As a old bastard that is past the child raising years (empty nesters for 13 years), well into having fun with grandkids and well into middle age I can say looking back "I wish like hell I had made the 'sacrifice' when I was your age."
Thanks, WT. Everything you said goes through my mind a few times a day. As I was reading what you wrote, the thought going through my head was simply the negative connotation I place on the word "sacrifice." I just went over and proved why that feels negative to me. The third definition (after sacrifices to a deities and whatnot) states, "the surrender or destruction of something prized or desirable..."
Something prized or desirable? Nicotine is something prized or desirable? That's my point and the reason I wanted you guys to put something positive in my head. I don't want this to feel like a sacrifice. For the past week, I feel like I'm fighting that negative connotation as much as I fight craves. I have been relentlessly positive about this, but I don't want it to be a sacrifice. This was definitely not a cry-for-help type of post, just a request for a positive spin. You said replace it with freedom and satisfaction. Those are positive spins. That's why I come to my vets. You guys probably remember being a month in. Sometimes it's tough to even find words to replace the negative ones when you're still being rewired.
I'll counter you on one thing you said, and it's only because I'm trying to shake the negativity I find in the word sacrifice (you got me thinking tonight, so thanks for that.) I don't think everything we do should be seen as a sacrifice. For one, I don't want to view fatherhood as a sacrifice. A month ago, when I had to play with the kid rather than stick a wad of shit in my lip, that was, at the time, a sacrifice. Now I'm finding it nothing more than a joy. I won't go into everything I previously saw as a sacrifice, but I'm trying to do that with all of them. I am becoming one introspective son of a bitch during this quit. And I like it!!! Just trying to get nicky to quit monopolizing the sacrifices. Thanks dude.
Alright Snow White , I'll kiss ya.
Sacrifice as you say is " surrender or destruction of something prized or valued"
Any emaciated penniless crack whore heroin junkie will agree with you that any activity that doesn't include their drug of choice is a sacrifice. What price did you pay my addict friend? Lie to get out of the house? Late night runs to 7-11 or the gas-n-go . Chew rather than eat? Stay up late? Avoid situations where you couldn't dip? Your not much different than any other addict.
Any recovered addict will tell you the true sacrifice was what you were willing to give up or destroy in order to feed the addiction. Sacrifice moments with loved ones to shove a neurotoxic weed in your mouth? Sacrifice your teeth, jaw, gums, circulation , heart, a fucking limb, face? Sacrifice your very life to a little round can of applemintywinterhagen flavored cancer.? Sacrifice your own integrity and self worth because you have to hide your addiction. Sacrifice thousands of dollars to pay homage to a product that kills you when used as directed.Sacrifice Missing the"kids" wedding, first home run, first day of college, your grand kids.
Your upside down lil buddy. Your gaining EVERYTHING , the sacrifices you made to maintain your addiction are over. Your free dumb dumb.
You are making a huge sacrifice by NOT QUITTING
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Ya'll help me out with something. I'm one of those people that analyzes the hell out of thoughts, ideas, basically stuff that I have not considered before. That's my disclosure in this question, because it might seem like nothing, but this has been bugging the shit out of me. It started early last week when it was obviously going to be a shitty week between work, grad school, and realizing each night that there are simply not enough hours in the day. So here goes the thought that has been basically raping my mind:
"I am making a huge sacrifice by quitting."
That's it. That's the thought. Every day it's that or an inbred cousin of that thought. It might be something like, "Is this sacrifice worth it," but I am stuck with the word "sacrifice." I'm better than a month in and I'm 100% in committing to my quit, but that thought feels really, really wrong and selfish. And yet I can't shake it.Â
But I'm smart enough to know where to come for advice. Somebody please tell me how wrong that thought process is so sacrifice can stop gang-raping my noggin. Thanks!!
D, everything we do is a sacrifice! My hell, look at all the sacrifices you make for 'the kid'! Are they worth it? Is the sacrifice of grad school worth it? I guess it comes down to you asking yourself, why am I making this sacrifice? If your reason is right the sacrifice is worth it! I could come on here and give you tons of reasons I see my sacrifice is worth it. But those are my reasons. You've been here long enough to see what happens when addicts attempt to quit for the wrong reason. The sacrifice isn't worth it and they cave!
Another way I'd rather look at quitting is: Is the freedom and the satisfaction of quitting worth it? I believe I looked at quitting as a sacrifice for awhile but now I don't! Quitting is a blessing in my life that ranks among the most important events of my life. As a old bastard that is past the child raising years (empty nesters for 13 years), well into having fun with grandkids and well into middle age I can say looking back "I wish like hell I had made the 'sacrifice' when I was your age."
Thanks, WT. Everything you said goes through my mind a few times a day. As I was reading what you wrote, the thought going through my head was simply the negative connotation I place on the word "sacrifice." I just went over and proved why that feels negative to me. The third definition (after sacrifices to a deities and whatnot) states, "the surrender or destruction of something prized or desirable..."
Something prized or desirable? Nicotine is something prized or desirable? That's my point and the reason I wanted you guys to put something positive in my head. I don't want this to feel like a sacrifice. For the past week, I feel like I'm fighting that negative connotation as much as I fight craves. I have been relentlessly positive about this, but I don't want it to be a sacrifice. This was definitely not a cry-for-help type of post, just a request for a positive spin. You said replace it with freedom and satisfaction. Those are positive spins. That's why I come to my vets. You guys probably remember being a month in. Sometimes it's tough to even find words to replace the negative ones when you're still being rewired.
I'll counter you on one thing you said, and it's only because I'm trying to shake the negativity I find in the word sacrifice (you got me thinking tonight, so thanks for that.) I don't think everything we do should be seen as a sacrifice. For one, I don't want to view fatherhood as a sacrifice. A month ago, when I had to play with the kid rather than stick a wad of shit in my lip, that was, at the time, a sacrifice. Now I'm finding it nothing more than a joy. I won't go into everything I previously saw as a sacrifice, but I'm trying to do that with all of them. I am becoming one introspective son of a bitch during this quit. And I like it!!! Just trying to get nicky to quit monopolizing the sacrifices. Thanks dude.
Alright Snow White , I'll kiss ya.
Sacrifice as you say is " surrender or destruction of something prized or valued"
Any emaciated penniless crack whore heroin junkie will agree with you that any activity that doesn't include their drug of choice is a sacrifice. What price did you pay my addict friend? Lie to get out of the house? Late night runs to 7-11 or the gas-n-go . Chew rather than eat? Stay up late? Avoid situations where you couldn't dip? Your not much different than any other addict.
Any recovered addict will tell you the true sacrifice was what you were willing to give up or destroy in order to feed the addiction. Sacrifice moments with loved ones to shove a neurotoxic weed in your mouth? Sacrifice your teeth, jaw, gums, circulation , heart, a fucking limb, face? Sacrifice your very life to a little round can of applemintywinterhagen flavored cancer.? Sacrifice your own integrity and self worth because you have to hide your addiction. Sacrifice thousands of dollars to pay homage to a product that kills you when used as directed.Sacrifice Missing the"kids" wedding, first home run, first day of college, your grand kids.
Your upside down lil buddy. Your gaining EVERYTHING , the sacrifices you made to maintain your addiction are over. Your free dumb dumb.
You are making a huge sacrifice by NOT QUITTING
I think SM is zoning in on my brain waves. Either that or I remember a hell of a lot of what he used to tell me. I think that's more like it.
I think like in football they have the Parcells tree, ktc should have a Skoal Monster tree.
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Dammit, I love this place. I make a relatively benign post asking my vets to give me a positive spin on the single word "sacrifice" and they lay me not only under the coals, but they add a little jet fuel. Love it because it replaces the shit in my own head, even if I want to find Diesel and introduce him to a branding iron (remember that, new newbies.) :)
I just needed that today. And after the past six or eight days, I really did need that. Hell, I'll take more hits if anybody wants to add a little jet fuel. This shit means something to me. Finally, after sixteen years, it means something to me. That's why I'm not afraid to show my vulnerability and get lambasted for it. Hell, I wanted it. Thanks to all of you.
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Dammit, I love this place. I make a relatively benign post asking my vets to give me a positive spin on the single word "sacrifice" and they lay me not only under the coals, but they add a little jet fuel. Love it because it replaces the shit in my own head, even if I want to find Diesel and introduce him to a branding iron (remember that, new newbies.) :)
I just needed that today. And after the past six or eight days, I really did need that. Hell, I'll take more hits if anybody wants to add a little jet fuel. This shit means something to me. Finally, after sixteen years, it means something to me. That's why I'm not afraid to show my vulnerability and get lambasted for it. Hell, I wanted it. Thanks to all of you.
Branding iron? Sounds too kinky for me.
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Dammit, I love this place. I make a relatively benign post asking my vets to give me a positive spin on the single word "sacrifice" and they lay me not only under the coals, but they add a little jet fuel. Love it because it replaces the shit in my own head, even if I want to find Diesel and introduce him to a branding iron (remember that, new newbies.) :)
I just needed that today. And after the past six or eight days, I really did need that. Hell, I'll take more hits if anybody wants to add a little jet fuel. This shit means something to me. Finally, after sixteen years, it means something to me. That's why I'm not afraid to show my vulnerability and get lambasted for it. Hell, I wanted it. Thanks to all of you.
Branding iron? Sounds too kinky for me.
awww come on Diesel, you know you want it. 'rem'
Also Dlee- " your momma wears combat boots"
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Day 40!! It's been hard as hell, my attitude sucks at times, and I have tried my damnedest to talk myself into caving on several occasions. But I haven't. And I won't. I am really starting to love me again and will NOT take that away from myself. I had one of those deep thoughts I've been having lately, but before I get to that, I just wanted to say thanks for everybody's support. Love you guys in the manliest way possible.
So here's my deep thought of the day: WT is going to tell me I shouldn't say fuck, but I have to a few times. For forty days I've noticed how several people say "quit like fuck." Have you ever noticed the number of things, feelings, or descriptions you can compare to fuck (or at least you've heard compared to fuck.)
Cold as fuck.
Hot as fuck.
She's hot as fuck.
Ugly as fuck.
Drunk as fuck.
Happy as fuck.
Hungry as fuck.
Sleepy as fuck.
Hurts like fuck.
Funny as fuck.
I could continue, but for today, I will end with QUIT LIKE FUCK!!
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Day 40!! It's been hard as hell, my attitude sucks at times, and I have tried my damnedest to talk myself into caving on several occasions. But I haven't. And I won't. I am really starting to love me again and will NOT take that away from myself. I had one of those deep thoughts I've been having lately, but before I get to that, I just wanted to say thanks for everybody's support. Love you guys in the manliest way possible.
So here's my deep thought of the day: WT is going to tell me I shouldn't say fuck, but I have to a few times. For forty days I've noticed how several people say "quit like fuck." Have you ever noticed the number of things, feelings, or descriptions you can compare to fuck (or at least you've heard compared to fuck.)
Cold as fuck.
Hot as fuck.
She's hot as fuck.
Ugly as fuck.
Drunk as fuck.
Happy as fuck.
Hungry as fuck.
Sleepy as fuck.
Hurts like fuck.
Funny as fuck.
I could continue, but for today, I will end with QUIT LIKE FUCK!!
I think that was cleanfuels son that told him he shouldn't say fuck! Here is the link to the definition of Quit Like Fuck (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6349) thanks to Coach Steve!
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Day 40!! It's been hard as hell, my attitude sucks at times, and I have tried my damnedest to talk myself into caving on several occasions. But I haven't. And I won't. I am really starting to love me again and will NOT take that away from myself. I had one of those deep thoughts I've been having lately, but before I get to that, I just wanted to say thanks for everybody's support. Love you guys in the manliest way possible.
So here's my deep thought of the day: WT is going to tell me I shouldn't say fuck, but I have to a few times. For forty days I've noticed how several people say "quit like fuck." Have you ever noticed the number of things, feelings, or descriptions you can compare to fuck (or at least you've heard compared to fuck.)
Cold as fuck.
Hot as fuck.
She's hot as fuck.
Ugly as fuck.
Drunk as fuck.
Happy as fuck.
Hungry as fuck.
Sleepy as fuck.
Hurts like fuck.
Funny as fuck.
I could continue, but for today, I will end with QUIT LIKE FUCK!!
I think that was cleanfuels son that told him he shouldn't say fuck! Here is the link to the definition of Quit Like Fuck (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=6349) thanks to Coach Steve!
Thanks WT. How in the world have I never seen that? Coach Steve, that is absolutely awesome as fuck. :P
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So I'm reading a book for grad school by a guy named Ron Clark. It's called The Essential 55 and it's promoted as "Discovering the Successful Student in Every Child." Yes, I'm in grad school to become a freaking teacher. We all have our unanswerables.
I've been reading for the past couple of nights and discovered that many of Mr. Clark's rules really, really parallel themselves with this KTC brotherhood. Who the hell knew we were all students? Here are the rules (out of the 55 and paraphrased if needed) that apply to us (my comments in parentheses:)
3. Congratulate others (That's what KTC does every day)
4. Respect other students' comments, opinions, and ideas (Unless...)
5. If you win, do not brag; if you lose, do not show anger (questionable for KTC?)
9. Always say thank you when given something. (Even an ass-chewing?)
10. When you receive something, do not insult the gift or the giver (Happens sometimes.)
11. Surprise others by performing random acts of kindness. (We do that every day!)
15. Do not ask for a reward. (That's the best one so far. We don't need one.)
16. You must complete your homework every day. (Roll posting.)
21. Follow the specific classroom protocols. (The backbone of KTC)
27. Do not stare at a student who is being reprimanded. (Let's be honest, we all stare.)
28. Call me if you have a question about homework. (KTC digits are necessary.)
33. When meeting new people, shake hands and repeat their names. (Intros!!)
36. Hold the door for people rather than letting it close on them. (Cavers who come back?)
41. At home, answer your phone in a polite and appropriate manner. (We are charged with getting numbers, not with what to do with them if someone calls.)
49. Stand up for what you believe. (Nuff said.)
50. Be positive and enjoy life. (Nuff said.)
51. Live so that you will never have regrets. (Nuff said.)
52. Learn from your mistakes and move on. (My biggest vice.)
53. No matter the circumstances, always be honest. (about a cave, perhaps?)
54. Carpe Diem - (Seize the fucking day!!!)
55. Be the best person you can be. ( I repeat... Seize the fucking day!!!)
A book about getting the most out of students applies to us. Imagine that. Out of 55 rules, a solid 21 apply to us addicts and I left a few out that were borderline. I didn't think rules such as "don't talk in a movie theater" applied, but I view this whole thing as a way of our re-emergence into a dipless society, almost like we are new students. And yes, newbies, 47 days is newbie. Some of these guys might say 947 days is newbie. And they're right.
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So I'm reading a book for grad school by a guy named Ron Clark. It's called The Essential 55 and it's promoted as "Discovering the Successful Student in Every Child." Yes, I'm in grad school to become a freaking teacher. We all have our unanswerables.
I've been reading for the past couple of nights and discovered that many of Mr. Clark's rules really, really parallel themselves with this KTC brotherhood. Who the hell knew we were all students? Here are the rules (out of the 55 and paraphrased if needed) that apply to us (my comments in parentheses:)
3. Congratulate others (That's what KTC does every day)
4. Respect other students' comments, opinions, and ideas (Unless...)
5. If you win, do not brag; if you lose, do not show anger (questionable for KTC?)
9. Always say thank you when given something. (Even an ass-chewing?)
10. When you receive something, do not insult the gift or the giver (Happens sometimes.)
11. Surprise others by performing random acts of kindness. (We do that every day!)
15. Do not ask for a reward. (That's the best one so far. We don't need one.)
16. You must complete your homework every day. (Roll posting.)
21. Follow the specific classroom protocols. (The backbone of KTC)
27. Do not stare at a student who is being reprimanded. (Let's be honest, we all stare.)
28. Call me if you have a question about homework. (KTC digits are necessary.)
33. When meeting new people, shake hands and repeat their names. (Intros!!)
36. Hold the door for people rather than letting it close on them. (Cavers who come back?)
41. At home, answer your phone in a polite and appropriate manner. (We are charged with getting numbers, not with what to do with them if someone calls.)
49. Stand up for what you believe. (Nuff said.)
50. Be positive and enjoy life. (Nuff said.)
51. Live so that you will never have regrets. (Nuff said.)
52. Learn from your mistakes and move on. (My biggest vice.)
53. No matter the circumstances, always be honest. (about a cave, perhaps?)
54. Carpe Diem - (Seize the fucking day!!!)
55. Be the best person you can be. ( I repeat... Seize the fucking day!!!)
A book about getting the most out of students applies to us. Imagine that. Out of 55 rules, a solid 21 apply to us addicts and I left a few out that were borderline. I didn't think rules such as "don't talk in a movie theater" applied, but I view this whole thing as a way of our re-emergence into a dipless society, almost like we are new students. And yes, newbies, 47 days is newbie. Some of these guys might say 947 days is newbie. And they're right.
Those are outstanding parallels. Seize the fucking day indeed!
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Just an FYI for the last two weeks of my life and the next two weeks. I'm in 100% with you quit fuckers and those on here that know me are probably convinced of that by now. However, for the next two weeks, I WILL post roll, but you won't see much of me otherwise. It's not by choice but by obligation. I have approximately seven million pages of crap to research, type, edit, and submit by midnight on March 25th to actually become a freaking teacher. Thirty-five years old and I choose a near-volunteer position teaching kids that won't even like me. I have no idea what I was thinking either.
Just know I am there in spirit with you newbies and oldies and April boys and girls for the next two weeks. Those who have texted and PM'd for these past 53 days, I'm still quit and will remain that way. Again, I WILL post my daily promise, but you guys that have checked in on me, don't worry about me for a couple of weeks. I drank the Kool-Aid. I know I owe this shit to you a little bit for your support, but the only one accountable is me. Wish me luck, you freaking masters of quit. I might even owe my life to this site. Pretty freaking cool that I might actually teach one of your kids and, for the first time in my life, I'm proud of that decision. Actually, I'm 53 days proud of two decisions. I'm not sure anybody would miss me if I hadn't posted that, but I'm going to pretend every single one of you would have worried about me.
And I promise I won't cuss if I teach your kid. :D
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Good luck with your endeavor.
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Just an FYI for the last two weeks of my life and the next two weeks. I'm in 100% with you quit fuckers and those on here that know me are probably convinced of that by now. However, for the next two weeks, I WILL post roll, but you won't see much of me otherwise. It's not by choice but by obligation. I have approximately seven million pages of crap to research, type, edit, and submit by midnight on March 25th to actually become a freaking teacher. Thirty-five years old and I choose a near-volunteer position teaching kids that won't even like me. I have no idea what I was thinking either.Â
Just know I am there in spirit with you newbies and oldies and April boys and girls for the next two weeks. Those who have texted and PM'd for these past 53 days, I'm still quit and will remain that way. Again, I WILL post my daily promise, but you guys that have checked in on me, don't worry about me for a couple of weeks. I drank the Kool-Aid. I know I owe this shit to you a little bit for your support, but the only one accountable is me. Wish me luck, you freaking masters of quit. I might even owe my life to this site. Pretty freaking cool that I might actually teach one of your kids and, for the first time in my life, I'm proud of that decision. Actually, I'm 53 days proud of two decisions. I'm not sure anybody would miss me if I hadn't posted that, but I'm going to pretend every single one of you would have worried about me.Â
And I promise I won't cuss if I teach your kid. :D
Best of luck Dlee!
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In another context, does this article feel familiar to you guys? If not, I'm thinking it should be pretty easy to relate to this dude.
http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/9080 ... ness-march (http://espn.go.com/espn/story/_/id/9080768/true-madness-march)
BTW, sorry I've been semi-absent. Looking forward to getting back in the fold now that tangible hell has come and gone. I was right when I was fifteen. Homework really, really sucks.
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After 71 days, I did something really stupid today (not cave stupid but addict stupid) and proved why this site works. I have no excuses good enough to post here, but at about 8:00 EST, I realized that I had totally forgot to post roll all day. When I logged in, I had a message from spartonron. I messaged back after posting and apologized for almost ruining a 100% day for our April group. A little while later, tsmith messaged me making sure I was okay. I was. Had a great day in fact. Parents versus kids night at soccer practice makes any day a great day (we lost; they cheated.)
My point: thanks, guys. I've been getting complacent because of outside stresses and just being busy as hell. It's no excuse. I think Coach Doc put it very well tonight in his new thread about excuses. When we get complacent, we open ourselves up for a cave.
I just wanted to thank you guys for checking in on me. Please lambaste me fully and completely if it happens again.
This reminds me of my favorite quote ever:
"We have forty million reasons for failure, but not a single excuse." - Rudyard Kipling
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After 71 days, I did something really stupid today (not cave stupid but addict stupid) and proved why this site works. I have no excuses good enough to post here, but at about 8:00 EST, I realized that I had totally forgot to post roll all day. When I logged in, I had a message from spartonron. I messaged back after posting and apologized for almost ruining a 100% day for our April group. A little while later, tsmith messaged me making sure I was okay. I was. Had a great day in fact. Parents versus kids night at soccer practice makes any day a great day (we lost; they cheated.)
My point: thanks, guys. I've been getting complacent because of outside stresses and just being busy as hell. It's no excuse. I think Coach Doc put it very well tonight in his new thread about excuses. When we get complacent, we open ourselves up for a cave.
I just wanted to thank you guys for checking in on me. Please lambaste me fully and completely if it happens again.
This reminds me of my favorite quote ever:
"We have forty million reasons for failure, but not a single excuse." - Rudyard Kipling
It is very easy to become complacent. We are all susceptible to it. Everyone once in a while, we need our brothers to hold us accountable and keep us on track. It doesnÂ’t matter if we are on day 50, 500 or 5,000. There will come a time where we will all need a little help from our brothers. Early on in my quit, I absent mindedly forgot to post roll at my early time. Later that day I logged into to find my inbox filled with messages from my quit brothers checking up on me. I also received many texts that day. The point is that people here really care about me and my quit. I care about your quit. All I ask for holding you accountable is that you pass it on. That is why this place works so well. Take care brother and see you on roll.
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Dlee3 - The quit is very strong with you! I am not 100% but I can tell you the days I missed and they all made me feel like shit. I look forward to walking into the Hall with you on April 24th. We will step on each floor together. I pray that January 15th 2013 is a day that will mean something to us forever. A single cave will ruin it! Not an option. Your Brother! Bleeckerdogs
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So the kid had a sleepover tonight which gave me the opportunity to go get her something for Easter. After shopping, I stopped in Lonestar Steakhouse to have some dinner. I hadn't done it alone yet, but I wanted a beer. So I had one. I knew it would be a trigger, but I wanted a damn beer.
So I'm sitting their enjoying my steak and a couple comes in and sits at the bar across from me. It was obvious it was an early-in-the-relationship date between forty-somethings. She was cute in a Mary Lou Retton sort of way, so I was intrigued by it. She was no supermodel, but she was my type. Cute, petite, seemingly unbroken, not an ounce of bitch in her face. He, on the other hand, was a bit of a brute. Polar opposites from a physical standpoint, but who am I to judge. They sit down and give each other a peck on the lips.
He asked, "So how was your week?"
She said, "Okay. Better now." She was obviously both excited and nervous. Not sure why now.
After a little conversation, he goes to bathroom. When he comes back, I notice he looks different. It looked to me like he had a micro-dip in his cheek.
The bartender comes over and he says, "I know it's inappropriate, but can I get one of those Styrofoam take-out cups."
The waitress says yes and soon comes back with one. He stuffs a wad of toilet paper (yes, toilet paper) in the cup and spits. A few moments later, in the middle of more conversation, he spits again. And again.
At this point, my mind turned to the psychiatry of human behavior. I was a ninja dipper, so my wife used to be skeptical but still unconvinced that I was an addict. She caught me a few times, but I always played it off as a stress reducer and I only did it when I was stressed or with the boys at poker night or on the golf course.
This guy, on the other hand, sits down ON A DATE and sticks a dip in. Who the hell does that? More than anything, for the first time in my addicted life, I wondered what kind of woman had such low expectations that she would date a man who felt dip was superior to her.
My beer trigger was long gone at this point. I thoroughly enjoyed it, but it left no cave trigger. More than anything else, I wanted to walk over to this guy, sit down beside him, and introduce him to KTC.
So the question I have for you guys: Should I have done it? Have you ever gone up to a complete stranger who was being a complete idiot and tried to sell KTC?
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So the kid had a sleepover tonight which gave me the opportunity to go get her something for Easter. After shopping, I stopped in Lonestar Steakhouse to have some dinner. I hadn't done it alone yet, but I wanted a beer. So I had one. I knew it would be a trigger, but I wanted a damn beer.
So I'm sitting their enjoying my steak and a couple comes in and sits at the bar across from me. It was obvious it was an early-in-the-relationship date between forty-somethings. She was cute in a Mary Lou Retton sort of way, so I was intrigued by it. She was no supermodel, but she was my type. Cute, petite, seemingly unbroken, not an ounce of bitch in her face. He, on the other hand, was a bit of a brute. Polar opposites from a physical standpoint, but who am I to judge. They sit down and give each other a peck on the lips.
He asked, "So how was your week?"
She said, "Okay. Better now." She was obviously both excited and nervous. Not sure why now.
After a little conversation, he goes to bathroom. When he comes back, I notice he looks different. It looked to me like he had a micro-dip in his cheek.
The bartender comes over and he says, "I know it's inappropriate, but can I get one of those Styrofoam take-out cups."
The waitress says yes and soon comes back with one. He stuffs a wad of toilet paper (yes, toilet paper) in the cup and spits. A few moments later, in the middle of more conversation, he spits again. And again.
At this point, my mind turned to the psychiatry of human behavior. I was a ninja dipper, so my wife used to be skeptical but still unconvinced that I was an addict. She caught me a few times, but I always played it off as a stress reducer and I only did it when I was stressed or with the boys at poker night or on the golf course.
This guy, on the other hand, sits down ON A DATE and sticks a dip in. Who the hell does that? More than anything, for the first time in my addicted life, I wondered what kind of woman had such low expectations that she would date a man who felt dip was superior to her.
My beer trigger was long gone at this point. I thoroughly enjoyed it, but it left no cave trigger. More than anything else, I wanted to walk over to this guy, sit down beside him, and introduce him to KTC.
So the question I have for you guys: Should I have done it? Have you ever gone up to a complete stranger who was being a complete idiot and tried to sell KTC?
hey brother Dlee3, I was that guy at the bar with a girl...I dipped 24/7 full blown all the time except in the bedroom and while sleeping....that dude is a full blown nic addict...
I tell everyone I can about KTC...for the full blown strangers like that dude you saw...I have wrote the url on a piece of paper, given it to them and said, hey check out this cool site. Walked away.
Seeds of quit are planted in many ways. Everyone is different, yet we're all addicted. One seed an old lady planted in my about 18 months ago was when she told me about her husband whom died early and was a dipper and never smoked. Coming from her, it lodged into my brain for days...I haven't seen her again, but when I do, I will tell how her words helped me.
Most people dipping will resist any conversation about quitting...they (in my experience) are just not ready.
Have a super weekend.
NAFAR I quit with you Today and all days that end in a y.
Cheers. 'bang head'
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So the kid had a sleepover tonight which gave me the opportunity to go get her something for Easter. After shopping, I stopped in Lonestar Steakhouse to have some dinner. I hadn't done it alone yet, but I wanted a beer. So I had one. I knew it would be a trigger, but I wanted a damn beer.Â
So I'm sitting their enjoying my steak and a couple comes in and sits at the bar across from me. It was obvious it was an early-in-the-relationship date between forty-somethings. She was cute in a Mary Lou Retton sort of way, so I was intrigued by it. She was no supermodel, but she was my type. Cute, petite, seemingly unbroken, not an ounce of bitch in her face. He, on the other hand, was a bit of a brute. Polar opposites from a physical standpoint, but who am I to judge. They sit down and give each other a peck on the lips.
He asked, "So how was your week?"
She said, "Okay. Better now." She was obviously both excited and nervous. Not sure why now.
After a little conversation, he goes to bathroom. When he comes back, I notice he looks different. It looked to me like he had a micro-dip in his cheek.Â
The bartender comes over and he says, "I know it's inappropriate, but can I get one of those Styrofoam take-out cups."
The waitress says yes and soon comes back with one. He stuffs a wad of toilet paper (yes, toilet paper) in the cup and spits. A few moments later, in the middle of more conversation, he spits again. And again.
At this point, my mind turned to the psychiatry of human behavior. I was a ninja dipper, so my wife used to be skeptical but still unconvinced that I was an addict. She caught me a few times, but I always played it off as a stress reducer and I only did it when I was stressed or with the boys at poker night or on the golf course.
This guy, on the other hand, sits down ON A DATE and sticks a dip in. Who the hell does that? More than anything, for the first time in my addicted life, I wondered what kind of woman had such low expectations that she would date a man who felt dip was superior to her.
My beer trigger was long gone at this point. I thoroughly enjoyed it, but it left no cave trigger. More than anything else, I wanted to walk over to this guy, sit down beside him, and introduce him to KTC.
So the question I have for you guys: Should I have done it? Have you ever gone up to a complete stranger who was being a complete idiot and tried to sell KTC?
hey brother Dlee3, I was that guy at the bar with a girl...I dipped 24/7 full blown all the time except in the bedroom and while sleeping....that dude is a full blown nic addict...
I tell everyone I can about KTC...for the full blown strangers like that dude you saw...I have wrote the url on a piece of paper, given it to them and said, hey check out this cool site. Walked away.
Seeds of quit are planted in many ways. Everyone is different, yet we're all addicted. One seed an old lady planted in my about 18 months ago was when she told me about her husband whom died early and was a dipper and never smoked. Coming from her, it lodged into my brain for days...I haven't seen her again, but when I do, I will tell how her words helped me.
Most people dipping will resist any conversation about quitting...they (in my experience) are just not ready.
Have a super weekend.
NAFAR I quit with you Today and all days that end in a y.
Cheers. 'bang head'
30, allow me to speak for you with regards to your reply. Tell me if I'm wrong, in other words.
When you see a guy dipping, you could care less if he is ready to quit. You sell QUIT anyway. When you hear a guy talking about dipping and how wonderful it is, you could care less if he truly believes it. You sell QUIT anyway. When you see a guy walking down the sidewalk with the dip circle in his back pocket, you sell QUIT anyway.
I'm seriously curious when I ask: Do you really do that? Have you really written the URL and simply walked away, wondering if you missed an opportunity to save a life if you stuck around and chatted? I'm really quite curious. I really, really wanted to be that guy tonight.
I completely agree with you when it comes to people being ready to quit. Some people simply aren't and might never be. They'll die with that mindset.
That's why I feel like I missed an opportunity tonight. I will never be able to make that dude quit dipping, but I will always wonder if I could have been his quit trigger. I haven't had the occasion to feel that way in 75 days. Cool and frustrating at the same time.
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So the kid had a sleepover tonight which gave me the opportunity to go get her something for Easter. After shopping, I stopped in Lonestar Steakhouse to have some dinner. I hadn't done it alone yet, but I wanted a beer. So I had one. I knew it would be a trigger, but I wanted a damn beer.Â
So I'm sitting their enjoying my steak and a couple comes in and sits at the bar across from me. It was obvious it was an early-in-the-relationship date between forty-somethings. She was cute in a Mary Lou Retton sort of way, so I was intrigued by it. She was no supermodel, but she was my type. Cute, petite, seemingly unbroken, not an ounce of bitch in her face. He, on the other hand, was a bit of a brute. Polar opposites from a physical standpoint, but who am I to judge. They sit down and give each other a peck on the lips.
He asked, "So how was your week?"
She said, "Okay. Better now." She was obviously both excited and nervous. Not sure why now.
After a little conversation, he goes to bathroom. When he comes back, I notice he looks different. It looked to me like he had a micro-dip in his cheek.Â
The bartender comes over and he says, "I know it's inappropriate, but can I get one of those Styrofoam take-out cups."
The waitress says yes and soon comes back with one. He stuffs a wad of toilet paper (yes, toilet paper) in the cup and spits. A few moments later, in the middle of more conversation, he spits again. And again.
At this point, my mind turned to the psychiatry of human behavior. I was a ninja dipper, so my wife used to be skeptical but still unconvinced that I was an addict. She caught me a few times, but I always played it off as a stress reducer and I only did it when I was stressed or with the boys at poker night or on the golf course.
This guy, on the other hand, sits down ON A DATE and sticks a dip in. Who the hell does that? More than anything, for the first time in my addicted life, I wondered what kind of woman had such low expectations that she would date a man who felt dip was superior to her.
My beer trigger was long gone at this point. I thoroughly enjoyed it, but it left no cave trigger. More than anything else, I wanted to walk over to this guy, sit down beside him, and introduce him to KTC.
So the question I have for you guys: Should I have done it? Have you ever gone up to a complete stranger who was being a complete idiot and tried to sell KTC?
Approaching someone to sell KTC, while noble, could result in a new quit, planting the quit seed, or a solid ass kicking. You have to be ready to accept all three options if you decide to approach anyone. If you are not of sober mind I suggest taking a pass, or being a ninja and writing the URL for the bartender to hand over after you leave.
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So the kid had a sleepover tonight which gave me the opportunity to go get her something for Easter. After shopping, I stopped in Lonestar Steakhouse to have some dinner. I hadn't done it alone yet, but I wanted a beer. So I had one. I knew it would be a trigger, but I wanted a damn beer.Â
So I'm sitting their enjoying my steak and a couple comes in and sits at the bar across from me. It was obvious it was an early-in-the-relationship date between forty-somethings. She was cute in a Mary Lou Retton sort of way, so I was intrigued by it. She was no supermodel, but she was my type. Cute, petite, seemingly unbroken, not an ounce of bitch in her face. He, on the other hand, was a bit of a brute. Polar opposites from a physical standpoint, but who am I to judge. They sit down and give each other a peck on the lips.
He asked, "So how was your week?"
She said, "Okay. Better now." She was obviously both excited and nervous. Not sure why now.
After a little conversation, he goes to bathroom. When he comes back, I notice he looks different. It looked to me like he had a micro-dip in his cheek.Â
The bartender comes over and he says, "I know it's inappropriate, but can I get one of those Styrofoam take-out cups."
The waitress says yes and soon comes back with one. He stuffs a wad of toilet paper (yes, toilet paper) in the cup and spits. A few moments later, in the middle of more conversation, he spits again. And again.
At this point, my mind turned to the psychiatry of human behavior. I was a ninja dipper, so my wife used to be skeptical but still unconvinced that I was an addict. She caught me a few times, but I always played it off as a stress reducer and I only did it when I was stressed or with the boys at poker night or on the golf course.
This guy, on the other hand, sits down ON A DATE and sticks a dip in. Who the hell does that? More than anything, for the first time in my addicted life, I wondered what kind of woman had such low expectations that she would date a man who felt dip was superior to her.
My beer trigger was long gone at this point. I thoroughly enjoyed it, but it left no cave trigger. More than anything else, I wanted to walk over to this guy, sit down beside him, and introduce him to KTC.
So the question I have for you guys: Should I have done it? Have you ever gone up to a complete stranger who was being a complete idiot and tried to sell KTC?
Approaching someone to sell KTC, while noble, could result in a new quit, planting the quit seed, or a solid ass kicking. You have to be ready to accept all three options if you decide to approach anyone. If you are not of sober mind I suggest taking a pass, or being a ninja and writing the URL for the bartender to hand over after you leave.
And then there is the getting-my-ass-kicked side of the story. What sucks is that I felt sorry for her more than him. Then again, I can't make decisions for him or her. They have to do it themselves.
Oh well. I'm not a salesman anyway. Maybe one day.
Either way, seeing that fuckstick dipping on a date was pure medicine for me. I watched the man I was surely going to become spitting into a borrowed takeout cup while on a date with a cute lady. I saw enough for the next dozen triggers or so.
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So the kid had a sleepover tonight which gave me the opportunity to go get her something for Easter. After shopping, I stopped in Lonestar Steakhouse to have some dinner. I hadn't done it alone yet, but I wanted a beer. So I had one. I knew it would be a trigger, but I wanted a damn beer.Â
So I'm sitting their enjoying my steak and a couple comes in and sits at the bar across from me. It was obvious it was an early-in-the-relationship date between forty-somethings. She was cute in a Mary Lou Retton sort of way, so I was intrigued by it. She was no supermodel, but she was my type. Cute, petite, seemingly unbroken, not an ounce of bitch in her face. He, on the other hand, was a bit of a brute. Polar opposites from a physical standpoint, but who am I to judge. They sit down and give each other a peck on the lips.
He asked, "So how was your week?"
She said, "Okay. Better now." She was obviously both excited and nervous. Not sure why now.
After a little conversation, he goes to bathroom. When he comes back, I notice he looks different. It looked to me like he had a micro-dip in his cheek.Â
The bartender comes over and he says, "I know it's inappropriate, but can I get one of those Styrofoam take-out cups."
The waitress says yes and soon comes back with one. He stuffs a wad of toilet paper (yes, toilet paper) in the cup and spits. A few moments later, in the middle of more conversation, he spits again. And again.
At this point, my mind turned to the psychiatry of human behavior. I was a ninja dipper, so my wife used to be skeptical but still unconvinced that I was an addict. She caught me a few times, but I always played it off as a stress reducer and I only did it when I was stressed or with the boys at poker night or on the golf course.
This guy, on the other hand, sits down ON A DATE and sticks a dip in. Who the hell does that? More than anything, for the first time in my addicted life, I wondered what kind of woman had such low expectations that she would date a man who felt dip was superior to her.
My beer trigger was long gone at this point. I thoroughly enjoyed it, but it left no cave trigger. More than anything else, I wanted to walk over to this guy, sit down beside him, and introduce him to KTC.
So the question I have for you guys: Should I have done it? Have you ever gone up to a complete stranger who was being a complete idiot and tried to sell KTC?
Approaching someone to sell KTC, while noble, could result in a new quit, planting the quit seed, or a solid ass kicking. You have to be ready to accept all three options if you decide to approach anyone. If you are not of sober mind I suggest taking a pass, or being a ninja and writing the URL for the bartender to hand over after you leave.
And then there is the getting-my-ass-kicked side of the story. What sucks is that I felt sorry for her more than him. Then again, I can't make decisions for him or her. They have to do it themselves.
Oh well. I'm not a salesman anyway. Maybe one day.
Either way, seeing that fuckstick dipping on a date was pure medicine for me. I watched the man I was surely going to become spitting into a borrowed takeout cup while on a date with a cute lady. I saw enough for the next dozen triggers or so.
I don't think you'll ever get your ass kicked, but you may receive a few "fuck offs" or a " mind your own business asshole". I am all for promoting being quit, but be sure to protect your own quit above all else.
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So the kid had a sleepover tonight which gave me the opportunity to go get her something for Easter. After shopping, I stopped in Lonestar Steakhouse to have some dinner. I hadn't done it alone yet, but I wanted a beer. So I had one. I knew it would be a trigger, but I wanted a damn beer.Â
So I'm sitting their enjoying my steak and a couple comes in and sits at the bar across from me. It was obvious it was an early-in-the-relationship date between forty-somethings. She was cute in a Mary Lou Retton sort of way, so I was intrigued by it. She was no supermodel, but she was my type. Cute, petite, seemingly unbroken, not an ounce of bitch in her face. He, on the other hand, was a bit of a brute. Polar opposites from a physical standpoint, but who am I to judge. They sit down and give each other a peck on the lips.
He asked, "So how was your week?"
She said, "Okay. Better now." She was obviously both excited and nervous. Not sure why now.
After a little conversation, he goes to bathroom. When he comes back, I notice he looks different. It looked to me like he had a micro-dip in his cheek.Â
The bartender comes over and he says, "I know it's inappropriate, but can I get one of those Styrofoam take-out cups."
The waitress says yes and soon comes back with one. He stuffs a wad of toilet paper (yes, toilet paper) in the cup and spits. A few moments later, in the middle of more conversation, he spits again. And again.
At this point, my mind turned to the psychiatry of human behavior. I was a ninja dipper, so my wife used to be skeptical but still unconvinced that I was an addict. She caught me a few times, but I always played it off as a stress reducer and I only did it when I was stressed or with the boys at poker night or on the golf course.
This guy, on the other hand, sits down ON A DATE and sticks a dip in. Who the hell does that? More than anything, for the first time in my addicted life, I wondered what kind of woman had such low expectations that she would date a man who felt dip was superior to her.
My beer trigger was long gone at this point. I thoroughly enjoyed it, but it left no cave trigger. More than anything else, I wanted to walk over to this guy, sit down beside him, and introduce him to KTC.
So the question I have for you guys: Should I have done it? Have you ever gone up to a complete stranger who was being a complete idiot and tried to sell KTC?
Approaching someone to sell KTC, while noble, could result in a new quit, planting the quit seed, or a solid ass kicking. You have to be ready to accept all three options if you decide to approach anyone. If you are not of sober mind I suggest taking a pass, or being a ninja and writing the URL for the bartender to hand over after you leave.
And then there is the getting-my-ass-kicked side of the story. What sucks is that I felt sorry for her more than him. Then again, I can't make decisions for him or her. They have to do it themselves.
Oh well. I'm not a salesman anyway. Maybe one day.
Either way, seeing that fuckstick dipping on a date was pure medicine for me. I watched the man I was surely going to become spitting into a borrowed takeout cup while on a date with a cute lady. I saw enough for the next dozen triggers or so.
I don't think you'll ever get your ass kicked, but you may receive a few "fuck offs" or a " mind your own business asshole". I am all for promoting being quit, but be sure to protect your own quit above all else.
I would have given you a hardy "fuck off". I never liked being preached to. Their are plenty of people here for you to save.
If you are really serious about helping others and I have thought about this, try getting into local high schools and asking for an hour or so to preach the dangers of nic addiction in smokeless form.
I think you would have better luck than approaching some Chachi off off the street.
This is my humble opinion.
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So the kid had a sleepover tonight which gave me the opportunity to go get her something for Easter. After shopping, I stopped in Lonestar Steakhouse to have some dinner. I hadn't done it alone yet, but I wanted a beer. So I had one. I knew it would be a trigger, but I wanted a damn beer.Â
So I'm sitting their enjoying my steak and a couple comes in and sits at the bar across from me. It was obvious it was an early-in-the-relationship date between forty-somethings. She was cute in a Mary Lou Retton sort of way, so I was intrigued by it. She was no supermodel, but she was my type. Cute, petite, seemingly unbroken, not an ounce of bitch in her face. He, on the other hand, was a bit of a brute. Polar opposites from a physical standpoint, but who am I to judge. They sit down and give each other a peck on the lips.
He asked, "So how was your week?"
She said, "Okay. Better now." She was obviously both excited and nervous. Not sure why now.
After a little conversation, he goes to bathroom. When he comes back, I notice he looks different. It looked to me like he had a micro-dip in his cheek.Â
The bartender comes over and he says, "I know it's inappropriate, but can I get one of those Styrofoam take-out cups."
The waitress says yes and soon comes back with one. He stuffs a wad of toilet paper (yes, toilet paper) in the cup and spits. A few moments later, in the middle of more conversation, he spits again. And again.
At this point, my mind turned to the psychiatry of human behavior. I was a ninja dipper, so my wife used to be skeptical but still unconvinced that I was an addict. She caught me a few times, but I always played it off as a stress reducer and I only did it when I was stressed or with the boys at poker night or on the golf course.
This guy, on the other hand, sits down ON A DATE and sticks a dip in. Who the hell does that? More than anything, for the first time in my addicted life, I wondered what kind of woman had such low expectations that she would date a man who felt dip was superior to her.
My beer trigger was long gone at this point. I thoroughly enjoyed it, but it left no cave trigger. More than anything else, I wanted to walk over to this guy, sit down beside him, and introduce him to KTC.
So the question I have for you guys: Should I have done it? Have you ever gone up to a complete stranger who was being a complete idiot and tried to sell KTC?
Approaching someone to sell KTC, while noble, could result in a new quit, planting the quit seed, or a solid ass kicking. You have to be ready to accept all three options if you decide to approach anyone. If you are not of sober mind I suggest taking a pass, or being a ninja and writing the URL for the bartender to hand over after you leave.
And then there is the getting-my-ass-kicked side of the story. What sucks is that I felt sorry for her more than him. Then again, I can't make decisions for him or her. They have to do it themselves.
Oh well. I'm not a salesman anyway. Maybe one day.
Either way, seeing that fuckstick dipping on a date was pure medicine for me. I watched the man I was surely going to become spitting into a borrowed takeout cup while on a date with a cute lady. I saw enough for the next dozen triggers or so.
I don't think you'll ever get your ass kicked, but you may receive a few "fuck offs" or a " mind your own business asshole". I am all for promoting being quit, but be sure to protect your own quit above all else.
I would have given you a hardy "fuck off". I never liked being preached to. Their are plenty of people here for you to save.
If you are really serious about helping others and I have thought about this, try getting into local high schools and asking for an hour or so to preach the dangers of nic addiction in smokeless form.
I think you would have better luck than approaching some Chachi off off the street.
This is my humble opinion.
I left the URL on a card for my handgun license instructor. We all know, they have to make the decision. I'm sure many don't know about KTC so I see it as educational only - not trying to convince them to quit.
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It might have been obvious during my first 86 days of quit, but I am an emotional guy and completely unashamed by it. I turned on the television a few minutes ago and watched Bubba Watson (reigning Masters champ) cry his damn eyeballs out talking about wrapping the green jacket around his newly adopted son soon after winning last years Masters. Naturally, I cried, too. And then I couldn't stop crying. Crying doesn't bother me as a man. It cleanses me. It lets me know my heart exists even when it doesn't feel like it.
So I'm sitting here on the couch in tears and it had nothing to do with Bubba Watson or his adopted son. Like most thoughts of the past three months, it all came back to this fucking disease we call addiction. My daughter will be eight years old in five days and I've never wrapped her up in something as meaningful as my quit. Bubba's got his green jacket; I have quit. I think mine's more valuable. For eighty-six days, even though she has no idea she's engulfed in the love that exists with my quit, she has been wrapped up in it. I quit for me, but as I look back, I'm not the most meaningful recipient of my quit. Humility gives that advantage to her.
Damn, I love fatherhood. And I love being quit. First time in sixteen years I've known what integrity actually feels like. I kinda like it, even if I have to cry.
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It might have been obvious during my first 86 days of quit, but I am an emotional guy and completely unashamed by it. I turned on the television a few minutes ago and watched Bubba Watson (reigning Masters champ) cry his damn eyeballs out talking about wrapping the green jacket around his newly adopted son soon after winning last years Masters. Naturally, I cried, too. And then I couldn't stop crying. Crying doesn't bother me as a man. It cleanses me. It lets me know my heart exists even when it doesn't feel like it.
So I'm sitting here on the couch in tears and it had nothing to do with Bubba Watson or his adopted son. Like most thoughts of the past three months, it all came back to this fucking disease we call addiction. My daughter will be eight years old in five days and I've never wrapped her up in something as meaningful as my quit. Bubba's got his green jacket; I have quit. I think mine's more valuable. For eighty-six days, even though she has no idea she's engulfed in the love that exists with my quit, she has been wrapped up in it. I quit for me, but as I look back, I'm not the most meaningful recipient of my quit. Humility gives that advantage to her.
Damn, I love fatherhood. And I love being quit. First time in sixteen years I've known what integrity actually feels like. I kinda like it, even if I have to cry.
Damn man, your posts always get my attention because I've admired the way you talk about 'the kid' since day one. I'm kinda emotional too and your comparison of your quit to the green jacket made my eyes blur. Fatherhood is great! I wish I'd gone threw those early years nic free but I am enjoying being a grandfather nicotine free. One of my motivations to quit was when my 4 year old grandson asked me what I was eating while riding in the tractor. Dang I'm glad he hasn't had the opportunity to ask me again. Can't believe your HOF is just around the corner.
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It might have been obvious during my first 86 days of quit, but I am an emotional guy and completely unashamed by it. I turned on the television a few minutes ago and watched Bubba Watson (reigning Masters champ) cry his damn eyeballs out talking about wrapping the green jacket around his newly adopted son soon after winning last years Masters. Naturally, I cried, too. And then I couldn't stop crying. Crying doesn't bother me as a man. It cleanses me. It lets me know my heart exists even when it doesn't feel like it.
So I'm sitting here on the couch in tears and it had nothing to do with Bubba Watson or his adopted son. Like most thoughts of the past three months, it all came back to this fucking disease we call addiction. My daughter will be eight years old in five days and I've never wrapped her up in something as meaningful as my quit. Bubba's got his green jacket; I have quit. I think mine's more valuable. For eighty-six days, even though she has no idea she's engulfed in the love that exists with my quit, she has been wrapped up in it. I quit for me, but as I look back, I'm not the most meaningful recipient of my quit. Humility gives that advantage to her.
Damn, I love fatherhood. And I love being quit. First time in sixteen years I've known what integrity actually feels like. I kinda like it, even if I have to cry.
Damn man, your posts always get my attention because I've admired the way you talk about 'the kid' since day one. I'm kinda emotional too and your comparison of your quit to the green jacket made my eyes blur. Fatherhood is great! I wish I'd gone threw those early years nic free but I am enjoying being a grandfather nicotine free. One of my motivations to quit was when my 4 year old grandson asked me what I was eating while riding in the tractor. Dang I'm glad he hasn't had the opportunity to ask me again. Can't believe your HOF is just around the corner.
I can't believe it either, WT. Actually, I can, but it sounds better to say I can't believe it. Thank YOU for being there for me from day one.
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It might have been obvious during my first 86 days of quit, but I am an emotional guy and completely unashamed by it. I turned on the television a few minutes ago and watched Bubba Watson (reigning Masters champ) cry his damn eyeballs out talking about wrapping the green jacket around his newly adopted son soon after winning last years Masters. Naturally, I cried, too. And then I couldn't stop crying. Crying doesn't bother me as a man. It cleanses me. It lets me know my heart exists even when it doesn't feel like it.
So I'm sitting here on the couch in tears and it had nothing to do with Bubba Watson or his adopted son. Like most thoughts of the past three months, it all came back to this fucking disease we call addiction. My daughter will be eight years old in five days and I've never wrapped her up in something as meaningful as my quit. Bubba's got his green jacket; I have quit. I think mine's more valuable. For eighty-six days, even though she has no idea she's engulfed in the love that exists with my quit, she has been wrapped up in it. I quit for me, but as I look back, I'm not the most meaningful recipient of my quit. Humility gives that advantage to her.
Damn, I love fatherhood. And I love being quit. First time in sixteen years I've known what integrity actually feels like. I kinda like it, even if I have to cry.
Damn man, your posts always get my attention because I've admired the way you talk about 'the kid' since day one. I'm kinda emotional too and your comparison of your quit to the green jacket made my eyes blur. Fatherhood is great! I wish I'd gone threw those early years nic free but I am enjoying being a grandfather nicotine free. One of my motivations to quit was when my 4 year old grandson asked me what I was eating while riding in the tractor. Dang I'm glad he hasn't had the opportunity to ask me again. Can't believe your HOF is just around the corner.
I can't believe it either, WT. Actually, I can, but it sounds better to say I can't believe it. Thank YOU for being there for me from day one.
Great stuff! Proud to be quit with you today
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It might have been obvious during my first 86 days of quit, but I am an emotional guy and completely unashamed by it. I turned on the television a few minutes ago and watched Bubba Watson (reigning Masters champ) cry his damn eyeballs out talking about wrapping the green jacket around his newly adopted son soon after winning last years Masters. Naturally, I cried, too. And then I couldn't stop crying. Crying doesn't bother me as a man. It cleanses me. It lets me know my heart exists even when it doesn't feel like it.
So I'm sitting here on the couch in tears and it had nothing to do with Bubba Watson or his adopted son. Like most thoughts of the past three months, it all came back to this fucking disease we call addiction. My daughter will be eight years old in five days and I've never wrapped her up in something as meaningful as my quit. Bubba's got his green jacket; I have quit. I think mine's more valuable. For eighty-six days, even though she has no idea she's engulfed in the love that exists with my quit, she has been wrapped up in it. I quit for me, but as I look back, I'm not the most meaningful recipient of my quit. Humility gives that advantage to her.
Damn, I love fatherhood. And I love being quit. First time in sixteen years I've known what integrity actually feels like. I kinda like it, even if I have to cry.
Damn man, your posts always get my attention because I've admired the way you talk about 'the kid' since day one. I'm kinda emotional too and your comparison of your quit to the green jacket made my eyes blur. Fatherhood is great! I wish I'd gone threw those early years nic free but I am enjoying being a grandfather nicotine free. One of my motivations to quit was when my 4 year old grandson asked me what I was eating while riding in the tractor. Dang I'm glad he hasn't had the opportunity to ask me again. Can't believe your HOF is just around the corner.
I can't believe it either, WT. Actually, I can, but it sounds better to say I can't believe it. Thank YOU for being there for me from day one.
Great stuff! Proud to be quit with you today
awesome as always Dlee.
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It might have been obvious during my first 86 days of quit, but I am an emotional guy and completely unashamed by it. I turned on the television a few minutes ago and watched Bubba Watson (reigning Masters champ) cry his damn eyeballs out talking about wrapping the green jacket around his newly adopted son soon after winning last years Masters. Naturally, I cried, too. And then I couldn't stop crying. Crying doesn't bother me as a man. It cleanses me. It lets me know my heart exists even when it doesn't feel like it.
So I'm sitting here on the couch in tears and it had nothing to do with Bubba Watson or his adopted son. Like most thoughts of the past three months, it all came back to this fucking disease we call addiction. My daughter will be eight years old in five days and I've never wrapped her up in something as meaningful as my quit. Bubba's got his green jacket; I have quit. I think mine's more valuable. For eighty-six days, even though she has no idea she's engulfed in the love that exists with my quit, she has been wrapped up in it. I quit for me, but as I look back, I'm not the most meaningful recipient of my quit. Humility gives that advantage to her.
Damn, I love fatherhood. And I love being quit. First time in sixteen years I've known what integrity actually feels like. I kinda like it, even if I have to cry.
Damn man, your posts always get my attention because I've admired the way you talk about 'the kid' since day one. I'm kinda emotional too and your comparison of your quit to the green jacket made my eyes blur. Fatherhood is great! I wish I'd gone threw those early years nic free but I am enjoying being a grandfather nicotine free. One of my motivations to quit was when my 4 year old grandson asked me what I was eating while riding in the tractor. Dang I'm glad he hasn't had the opportunity to ask me again. Can't believe your HOF is just around the corner.
I can't believe it either, WT. Actually, I can, but it sounds better to say I can't believe it. Thank YOU for being there for me from day one.
Great stuff! Proud to be quit with you today
awesome as always Dlee.
Integrity. I like that. You sir, have integrity in spades. Keep it up man.
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It might have been obvious during my first 86 days of quit, but I am an emotional guy and completely unashamed by it. I turned on the television a few minutes ago and watched Bubba Watson (reigning Masters champ) cry his damn eyeballs out talking about wrapping the green jacket around his newly adopted son soon after winning last years Masters. Naturally, I cried, too. And then I couldn't stop crying. Crying doesn't bother me as a man. It cleanses me. It lets me know my heart exists even when it doesn't feel like it.
So I'm sitting here on the couch in tears and it had nothing to do with Bubba Watson or his adopted son. Like most thoughts of the past three months, it all came back to this fucking disease we call addiction. My daughter will be eight years old in five days and I've never wrapped her up in something as meaningful as my quit. Bubba's got his green jacket; I have quit. I think mine's more valuable. For eighty-six days, even though she has no idea she's engulfed in the love that exists with my quit, she has been wrapped up in it. I quit for me, but as I look back, I'm not the most meaningful recipient of my quit. Humility gives that advantage to her.
Damn, I love fatherhood. And I love being quit. First time in sixteen years I've known what integrity actually feels like. I kinda like it, even if I have to cry.
Damn man, your posts always get my attention because I've admired the way you talk about 'the kid' since day one. I'm kinda emotional too and your comparison of your quit to the green jacket made my eyes blur. Fatherhood is great! I wish I'd gone threw those early years nic free but I am enjoying being a grandfather nicotine free. One of my motivations to quit was when my 4 year old grandson asked me what I was eating while riding in the tractor. Dang I'm glad he hasn't had the opportunity to ask me again. Can't believe your HOF is just around the corner.
I can't believe it either, WT. Actually, I can, but it sounds better to say I can't believe it. Thank YOU for being there for me from day one.
Great stuff! Proud to be quit with you today
awesome as always Dlee.
Integrity. I like that. You sir, have integrity in spades. Keep it up man.
Incredible moment. Thank you for sharing it. Integrity does have a great feel, feels like love.
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This topic might have been addressed at some point prior to my arrival, but I wanted some feedback. The topic is HOF speeches. My question is whether or not I should feel obligated to post one at or near day 100. And I bring this up not to belittle the speeches or question their worthiness. I already know, after reading so many, how valuable they are to our quits. But this has been eating at me as I near 100 days quit.
To me, Hall of Fame means a career of superiority. It means you are or were the best at your chosen field or profession. It means you weren't just rewarded for a "hot streak" but rather a long procession of winning seasons. I am not at all trying to buck this ridiculously awesome KTC staple or those that choose to post their HOF speech at day 100. Instead, I was looking for personal feelings toward this practice for those of us that don't want to do it so soon.
One day, maybe at day 100 but probably not, I WILL write a HOF speech. But what if I don't feel ready to do so at day 100? What if I don't yet feel worthy of HOF at day 100?
This site has been my lifeline. It probably even saved my life. I know I'm now quit. I know the bitch will enter my thoughts but never my body again. But I relish the thought of writing that speech. I relish, as I recently posted, crying my damn eyes out while putting into words taking my damn life back and all that it means to me. But after 16 years, 100 days was basically yesterday. I want to one day, but I'm not ready to write all of that down yet.
I would love to have your thoughts on that.
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This topic might have been addressed at some point prior to my arrival, but I wanted some feedback. The topic is HOF speeches. My question is whether or not I should feel obligated to post one at or near day 100. And I bring this up not to belittle the speeches or question their worthiness. I already know, after reading so many, how valuable they are to our quits. But this has been eating at me as I near 100 days quit.
To me, Hall of Fame means a career of superiority. It means you are or were the best at your chosen field or profession. It means you weren't just rewarded for a "hot streak" but rather a long procession of winning seasons. I am not at all trying to buck this ridiculously awesome KTC staple or those that choose to post their HOF speech at day 100. Instead, I was looking for personal feelings toward this practice for those of us that don't want to do it so soon.
One day, maybe at day 100 but probably not, I WILL write a HOF speech. But what if I don't feel ready to do so at day 100? What if I don't yet feel worthy of HOF at day 100?Â
This site has been my lifeline. It probably even saved my life. I know I'm now quit. I know the bitch will enter my thoughts but never my body again. But I relish the thought of writing that speech. I relish, as I recently posted, crying my damn eyes out while putting into words taking my damn life back and all that it means to me. But after 16 years, 100 days was basically yesterday. I want to one day, but I'm not ready to write all of that down yet.
I would love to have your thoughts on that.
You're over thinking it.
Write one when you feel like it. This isn't major league baseball, where a group of sports writers and media members are going vote you in and there's some ceremony where your old coach or son gives a speech about you, before you take the Mic.
The only criteria for our Hall of Fame is to make it 100 days nic free. You do it, you're in. And, in my eyes, you deserve to be. Theres no illusions that after 100 days your "done". Infact its all over the site that nothing ends at 100 days.
Personally I think 100 days is almost like a goal or checkpoint in a LIFETIME of quit. When I first quit I thought 100 days was an impossibility. Fuck, 100 days seemed like 100 years. It was nice that after being told to just "quit for today" that their was always that nice round number of 100 and the hof to look forward too. Nobody said you had to have to make it 100 days AND be some kind of quit legend where everyone looked at you as "one of the best" in the quit field. Who is to judge that anyway? A guy makes it 100 days he's in. He's done something to be hella proud of. Who the fuck would tell him otherwise? You want to write a speech sucking your own dick a little bit and thanking all that have helped you to get to 100 days the minute the counter flips 100 days or whenever you feel like it...it doesn't matter. People are going to read it, dig it, support and congratulate you regardless.
This isn't a "career" where you one day hang up your quit and everyone judges how great your quit was. You're quits over when you fucking die. You wanna write a speech go ahead, who gives a flying fuck when. You don't want to write a speech, again, who gives a fuck. And I personally do feel you are belittling the process. Using the term "hot streak" implies that those who write one often fail, or aren't worthy? I don't get that.
Just keep that cancerous, addicting, controlling, and nasty shit out of your mother fucking mouth.
That's all that really matters. IMHO
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This topic might have been addressed at some point prior to my arrival, but I wanted some feedback. The topic is HOF speeches. My question is whether or not I should feel obligated to post one at or near day 100. And I bring this up not to belittle the speeches or question their worthiness. I already know, after reading so many, how valuable they are to our quits. But this has been eating at me as I near 100 days quit.
To me, Hall of Fame means a career of superiority. It means you are or were the best at your chosen field or profession. It means you weren't just rewarded for a "hot streak" but rather a long procession of winning seasons. I am not at all trying to buck this ridiculously awesome KTC staple or those that choose to post their HOF speech at day 100. Instead, I was looking for personal feelings toward this practice for those of us that don't want to do it so soon.
One day, maybe at day 100 but probably not, I WILL write a HOF speech. But what if I don't feel ready to do so at day 100? What if I don't yet feel worthy of HOF at day 100?Â
This site has been my lifeline. It probably even saved my life. I know I'm now quit. I know the bitch will enter my thoughts but never my body again. But I relish the thought of writing that speech. I relish, as I recently posted, crying my damn eyes out while putting into words taking my damn life back and all that it means to me. But after 16 years, 100 days was basically yesterday. I want to one day, but I'm not ready to write all of that down yet.
I would love to have your thoughts on that.
You're over thinking it.
Write one when you feel like it. This isn't major league baseball, where a group of sports writers and media members are going vote you in and there's some ceremony where your old coach or son gives a speech about you, before you take the Mic.
The only criteria for our Hall of Fame is to make it 100 days nic free. You do it, you're in. And, in my eyes, you deserve to be. Theres no illusions that after 100 days your "done". Infact its all over the site that nothing ends at 100 days.
Personally I think 100 days is almost like a goal or checkpoint in a LIFETIME of quit. When I first quit I thought 100 days was an impossibility. Fuck, 100 days seemed like 100 years. It was nice that after being told to just "quit for today" that their was always that nice round number of 100 and the hof to look forward too. Nobody said you had to have to make it 100 days AND be some kind of quit legend where everyone looked at you as "one of the best" in the quit field. Who is to judge that anyway? A guy makes it 100 days he's in. He's done something to be hella proud of. Who the fuck would tell him otherwise? You want to write a speech sucking your own dick a little bit and thanking all that have helped you to get to 100 days the minute the counter flips 100 days or whenever you feel like it...it doesn't matter. People are going to read it, dig it, support and congratulate you regardless.
This isn't a "career" where you one day hang up your quit and everyone judges how great your quit was. You're quits over when you fucking die. You wanna write a speech go ahead, who gives a flying fuck when. You don't want to write a speech, again, who gives a fuck. And I personally do feel you are belittling the process. Using the term "hot streak" implies that those who write one often fail, or aren't worthy? I don't get that.
Just keep that cancerous, addicting, controlling, and nasty shit out of your mother fucking mouth.
That's all that really matters. IMHO
Nope, not belittling the practice of speeches. LOVE IT, in fact. Been working towards it for 88 days. Can't wait to write one. I'm just not ready. The problem I have with your reply is the whole "who gives a fuck" angle. I believe this is individual to the quitter. I'm not disagreeing with your position, only offering a rebuttal. We're both offering opinions, after all.
If I wrote a HOF speech in a few days with a "who gives a fuck if anybody reads this" mindset, wouldn't I be saying that I don't really give a fuck about this quit or anybody that reads my ramblings? With that question, I'm also completely agreeing with you that I am HIGHLY overthinking this HOF speech. But so are you.
These speeches are personal yet public to our community. I do give a fuck what it says (when I'm ready to say it,) because what if my speech is the speech that saves somebody's life? I'm capable of writing something compelling enough to do just that. We all are.
I read a post just yesterday or the day before from a KTC quitter that was over 500 days quit and craving, and more than anything, I questioned how powerful my speech needed to be for ME to stay quit. In that moment, I didn't think about saving somebody, I thought about clicking on my own HOF speech when craving, sucking in a lot of air, and trying to remember the time when I wanted to quit that badly. Over 500 days!! I haven't had a crave bad enough to send packing in weeks and this guy nearly had to send out an SOS at over 500 days.
Now that I'm nearly 100 days, I don't ever think I'll earn the title of MVP, but I hope that HOF speech, whenever I write it, helps somebody save their own life. That's why it means a hell of a lot to me.
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This topic might have been addressed at some point prior to my arrival, but I wanted some feedback. The topic is HOF speeches. My question is whether or not I should feel obligated to post one at or near day 100. And I bring this up not to belittle the speeches or question their worthiness. I already know, after reading so many, how valuable they are to our quits. But this has been eating at me as I near 100 days quit.
To me, Hall of Fame means a career of superiority. It means you are or were the best at your chosen field or profession. It means you weren't just rewarded for a "hot streak" but rather a long procession of winning seasons. I am not at all trying to buck this ridiculously awesome KTC staple or those that choose to post their HOF speech at day 100. Instead, I was looking for personal feelings toward this practice for those of us that don't want to do it so soon.
One day, maybe at day 100 but probably not, I WILL write a HOF speech. But what if I don't feel ready to do so at day 100? What if I don't yet feel worthy of HOF at day 100?Â
This site has been my lifeline. It probably even saved my life. I know I'm now quit. I know the bitch will enter my thoughts but never my body again. But I relish the thought of writing that speech. I relish, as I recently posted, crying my damn eyes out while putting into words taking my damn life back and all that it means to me. But after 16 years, 100 days was basically yesterday. I want to one day, but I'm not ready to write all of that down yet.
I would love to have your thoughts on that.
You're over thinking it.
Write one when you feel like it. This isn't major league baseball, where a group of sports writers and media members are going vote you in and there's some ceremony where your old coach or son gives a speech about you, before you take the Mic.
The only criteria for our Hall of Fame is to make it 100 days nic free. You do it, you're in. And, in my eyes, you deserve to be. Theres no illusions that after 100 days your "done". Infact its all over the site that nothing ends at 100 days.
Personally I think 100 days is almost like a goal or checkpoint in a LIFETIME of quit. When I first quit I thought 100 days was an impossibility. Fuck, 100 days seemed like 100 years. It was nice that after being told to just "quit for today" that their was always that nice round number of 100 and the hof to look forward too. Nobody said you had to have to make it 100 days AND be some kind of quit legend where everyone looked at you as "one of the best" in the quit field. Who is to judge that anyway? A guy makes it 100 days he's in. He's done something to be hella proud of. Who the fuck would tell him otherwise? You want to write a speech sucking your own dick a little bit and thanking all that have helped you to get to 100 days the minute the counter flips 100 days or whenever you feel like it...it doesn't matter. People are going to read it, dig it, support and congratulate you regardless.
This isn't a "career" where you one day hang up your quit and everyone judges how great your quit was. You're quits over when you fucking die. You wanna write a speech go ahead, who gives a flying fuck when. You don't want to write a speech, again, who gives a fuck. And I personally do feel you are belittling the process. Using the term "hot streak" implies that those who write one often fail, or aren't worthy? I don't get that.
Just keep that cancerous, addicting, controlling, and nasty shit out of your mother fucking mouth.
That's all that really matters. IMHO
Nope, not belittling the practice of speeches. LOVE IT, in fact. Been working towards it for 88 days. Can't wait to write one. I'm just not ready. The problem I have with your reply is the whole "who gives a fuck" angle. I believe this is individual to the quitter. I'm not disagreeing with your position, only offering a rebuttal. We're both offering opinions, after all.
If I wrote a HOF speech in a few days with a "who gives a fuck if anybody reads this" mindset, wouldn't I be saying that I don't really give a fuck about this quit or anybody that reads my ramblings? With that question, I'm also completely agreeing with you that I am HIGHLY overthinking this HOF speech. But so are you.
These speeches are personal yet public to our community. I do give a fuck what it says (when I'm ready to say it,) because what if my speech is the speech that saves somebody's life? I'm capable of writing something compelling enough to do just that. We all are.
I read a post just yesterday or the day before from a KTC quitter that was over 500 days quit and craving, and more than anything, I questioned how powerful my speech needed to be for ME to stay quit. In that moment, I didn't think about saving somebody, I thought about clicking on my own HOF speech when craving, sucking in a lot of air, and trying to remember the time when I wanted to quit that badly. Over 500 days!! I haven't had a crave bad enough to send packing in weeks and this guy nearly had to send out an SOS at over 500 days.
Now that I'm nearly 100 days, I don't ever think I'll earn the title of MVP, but I hope that HOF speech, whenever I write it, helps somebody save their own life. That's why it means a hell of a lot to me.
What? I never said ANYTHING about "who gives a fuck if anybody reads it". I said who gives a fuck WHEN you write it. In fact I said no matter WHEN you write it people will read it, dig it, support and congratulate you regardless.
Do what ever you feel is right. Whenever you feel like it. There's no protocol for when to write a hof speech. Hell...there probably tons of people who never even wrote one.
Ive read every one, and only once was I like, wtf was that dude thinking and I pm'd and asked him. I go back and read mine now and it its weird because I've been been quit twice as long as from the time I wrote it , but its cool to recall that raw emotion that I felt having freshly crossed the hof finish line.
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This topic might have been addressed at some point prior to my arrival, but I wanted some feedback. The topic is HOF speeches. My question is whether or not I should feel obligated to post one at or near day 100. And I bring this up not to belittle the speeches or question their worthiness. I already know, after reading so many, how valuable they are to our quits. But this has been eating at me as I near 100 days quit.
To me, Hall of Fame means a career of superiority. It means you are or were the best at your chosen field or profession. It means you weren't just rewarded for a "hot streak" but rather a long procession of winning seasons. I am not at all trying to buck this ridiculously awesome KTC staple or those that choose to post their HOF speech at day 100. Instead, I was looking for personal feelings toward this practice for those of us that don't want to do it so soon.
One day, maybe at day 100 but probably not, I WILL write a HOF speech. But what if I don't feel ready to do so at day 100? What if I don't yet feel worthy of HOF at day 100?Â
This site has been my lifeline. It probably even saved my life. I know I'm now quit. I know the bitch will enter my thoughts but never my body again. But I relish the thought of writing that speech. I relish, as I recently posted, crying my damn eyes out while putting into words taking my damn life back and all that it means to me. But after 16 years, 100 days was basically yesterday. I want to one day, but I'm not ready to write all of that down yet.
I would love to have your thoughts on that.
You're over thinking it.
Write one when you feel like it. This isn't major league baseball, where a group of sports writers and media members are going vote you in and there's some ceremony where your old coach or son gives a speech about you, before you take the Mic.
The only criteria for our Hall of Fame is to make it 100 days nic free. You do it, you're in. And, in my eyes, you deserve to be. Theres no illusions that after 100 days your "done". Infact its all over the site that nothing ends at 100 days.
Personally I think 100 days is almost like a goal or checkpoint in a LIFETIME of quit. When I first quit I thought 100 days was an impossibility. Fuck, 100 days seemed like 100 years. It was nice that after being told to just "quit for today" that their was always that nice round number of 100 and the hof to look forward too. Nobody said you had to have to make it 100 days AND be some kind of quit legend where everyone looked at you as "one of the best" in the quit field. Who is to judge that anyway? A guy makes it 100 days he's in. He's done something to be hella proud of. Who the fuck would tell him otherwise? You want to write a speech sucking your own dick a little bit and thanking all that have helped you to get to 100 days the minute the counter flips 100 days or whenever you feel like it...it doesn't matter. People are going to read it, dig it, support and congratulate you regardless.
This isn't a "career" where you one day hang up your quit and everyone judges how great your quit was. You're quits over when you fucking die. You wanna write a speech go ahead, who gives a flying fuck when. You don't want to write a speech, again, who gives a fuck. And I personally do feel you are belittling the process. Using the term "hot streak" implies that those who write one often fail, or aren't worthy? I don't get that.
Just keep that cancerous, addicting, controlling, and nasty shit out of your mother fucking mouth.
That's all that really matters. IMHO
Nope, not belittling the practice of speeches. LOVE IT, in fact. Been working towards it for 88 days. Can't wait to write one. I'm just not ready. The problem I have with your reply is the whole "who gives a fuck" angle. I believe this is individual to the quitter. I'm not disagreeing with your position, only offering a rebuttal. We're both offering opinions, after all.
If I wrote a HOF speech in a few days with a "who gives a fuck if anybody reads this" mindset, wouldn't I be saying that I don't really give a fuck about this quit or anybody that reads my ramblings? With that question, I'm also completely agreeing with you that I am HIGHLY overthinking this HOF speech. But so are you.
These speeches are personal yet public to our community. I do give a fuck what it says (when I'm ready to say it,) because what if my speech is the speech that saves somebody's life? I'm capable of writing something compelling enough to do just that. We all are.
I read a post just yesterday or the day before from a KTC quitter that was over 500 days quit and craving, and more than anything, I questioned how powerful my speech needed to be for ME to stay quit. In that moment, I didn't think about saving somebody, I thought about clicking on my own HOF speech when craving, sucking in a lot of air, and trying to remember the time when I wanted to quit that badly. Over 500 days!! I haven't had a crave bad enough to send packing in weeks and this guy nearly had to send out an SOS at over 500 days.
Now that I'm nearly 100 days, I don't ever think I'll earn the title of MVP, but I hope that HOF speech, whenever I write it, helps somebody save their own life. That's why it means a hell of a lot to me.
What? I never said ANYTHING about "who gives a fuck if anybody reads it". I said who gives a fuck WHEN you write it. In fact I said no matter WHEN you write it people will read it, dig it, support and congratulate you regardless.
Do what ever you feel is right. Whenever you feel like it. There's no protocol for when to write a hof speech. Hell...there probably tons of people who never even wrote one.
Ive read every one, and only once was I like, wtf was that dude thinking and I pm'd and asked him. I go back and read mine now and it its weird because I've been been quit twice as long as from the time I wrote it , but its cool to recall that raw emotion that I felt having freshly crossed the hof finish line.
For me it was a reflection of my quit and it was for "me." Why did I put that in quotes, because I posted it to a public area of the site for others to read. For me it was and is a emotional tie to the journey of being quit. Hopefully someone will read that and maybe see the struggle, joy, blood, sweat, and tears that have gone into this quit. I wrote it for me, for others to read. If you do not want to do it then don't. When you are ready everyone here will read it and probably pull at least one thing out of it that they will take to heart.
When you are ready, I will be honored to read it.
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This topic might have been addressed at some point prior to my arrival, but I wanted some feedback. The topic is HOF speeches. My question is whether or not I should feel obligated to post one at or near day 100. And I bring this up not to belittle the speeches or question their worthiness. I already know, after reading so many, how valuable they are to our quits. But this has been eating at me as I near 100 days quit.
To me, Hall of Fame means a career of superiority. It means you are or were the best at your chosen field or profession. It means you weren't just rewarded for a "hot streak" but rather a long procession of winning seasons. I am not at all trying to buck this ridiculously awesome KTC staple or those that choose to post their HOF speech at day 100. Instead, I was looking for personal feelings toward this practice for those of us that don't want to do it so soon.
One day, maybe at day 100 but probably not, I WILL write a HOF speech. But what if I don't feel ready to do so at day 100? What if I don't yet feel worthy of HOF at day 100?Â
This site has been my lifeline. It probably even saved my life. I know I'm now quit. I know the bitch will enter my thoughts but never my body again. But I relish the thought of writing that speech. I relish, as I recently posted, crying my damn eyes out while putting into words taking my damn life back and all that it means to me. But after 16 years, 100 days was basically yesterday. I want to one day, but I'm not ready to write all of that down yet.
I would love to have your thoughts on that.
You're over thinking it.
Write one when you feel like it. This isn't major league baseball, where a group of sports writers and media members are going vote you in and there's some ceremony where your old coach or son gives a speech about you, before you take the Mic.
The only criteria for our Hall of Fame is to make it 100 days nic free. You do it, you're in. And, in my eyes, you deserve to be. Theres no illusions that after 100 days your "done". Infact its all over the site that nothing ends at 100 days.
Personally I think 100 days is almost like a goal or checkpoint in a LIFETIME of quit. When I first quit I thought 100 days was an impossibility. Fuck, 100 days seemed like 100 years. It was nice that after being told to just "quit for today" that their was always that nice round number of 100 and the hof to look forward too. Nobody said you had to have to make it 100 days AND be some kind of quit legend where everyone looked at you as "one of the best" in the quit field. Who is to judge that anyway? A guy makes it 100 days he's in. He's done something to be hella proud of. Who the fuck would tell him otherwise? You want to write a speech sucking your own dick a little bit and thanking all that have helped you to get to 100 days the minute the counter flips 100 days or whenever you feel like it...it doesn't matter. People are going to read it, dig it, support and congratulate you regardless.
This isn't a "career" where you one day hang up your quit and everyone judges how great your quit was. You're quits over when you fucking die. You wanna write a speech go ahead, who gives a flying fuck when. You don't want to write a speech, again, who gives a fuck. And I personally do feel you are belittling the process. Using the term "hot streak" implies that those who write one often fail, or aren't worthy? I don't get that.
Just keep that cancerous, addicting, controlling, and nasty shit out of your mother fucking mouth.
That's all that really matters. IMHO
Nope, not belittling the practice of speeches. LOVE IT, in fact. Been working towards it for 88 days. Can't wait to write one. I'm just not ready. The problem I have with your reply is the whole "who gives a fuck" angle. I believe this is individual to the quitter. I'm not disagreeing with your position, only offering a rebuttal. We're both offering opinions, after all.
If I wrote a HOF speech in a few days with a "who gives a fuck if anybody reads this" mindset, wouldn't I be saying that I don't really give a fuck about this quit or anybody that reads my ramblings? With that question, I'm also completely agreeing with you that I am HIGHLY overthinking this HOF speech. But so are you.
These speeches are personal yet public to our community. I do give a fuck what it says (when I'm ready to say it,) because what if my speech is the speech that saves somebody's life? I'm capable of writing something compelling enough to do just that. We all are.
I read a post just yesterday or the day before from a KTC quitter that was over 500 days quit and craving, and more than anything, I questioned how powerful my speech needed to be for ME to stay quit. In that moment, I didn't think about saving somebody, I thought about clicking on my own HOF speech when craving, sucking in a lot of air, and trying to remember the time when I wanted to quit that badly. Over 500 days!! I haven't had a crave bad enough to send packing in weeks and this guy nearly had to send out an SOS at over 500 days.
Now that I'm nearly 100 days, I don't ever think I'll earn the title of MVP, but I hope that HOF speech, whenever I write it, helps somebody save their own life. That's why it means a hell of a lot to me.
What? I never said ANYTHING about "who gives a fuck if anybody reads it". I said who gives a fuck WHEN you write it. In fact I said no matter WHEN you write it people will read it, dig it, support and congratulate you regardless.
Do what ever you feel is right. Whenever you feel like it. There's no protocol for when to write a hof speech. Hell...there probably tons of people who never even wrote one.
Ive read every one, and only once was I like, wtf was that dude thinking and I pm'd and asked him. I go back and read mine now and it its weird because I've been been quit twice as long as from the time I wrote it , but its cool to recall that raw emotion that I felt having freshly crossed the hof finish line.
That's my problem right now, Diesel. EMOTION!! It's controlled me the last few days. It will, as evidenced, probably consume me for the next twelve. 100 days just feels superficial to me right now and I'm not sure why. I guess I want 100 to mean more to more people than me. At 100, I guess I want it to mean something to people new to quit who resemble me but to whom I'm not yet worthy enough to give advice. Heck, it's a HOF speech. It will be viewable for months or years on this site.
I respect your thoughts on how you viewed your HOF speech weeks or months after writing it. That raw emotion, etc. That reply was what I was looking for with my initial question. You said it was "cool to recall that raw emotion" from the day you wrote it. That's what I was getting at with my question.
Why, in other words, is it important to write it at 100 days as opposed to 158 or 787? This helps.
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This topic might have been addressed at some point prior to my arrival, but I wanted some feedback. The topic is HOF speeches. My question is whether or not I should feel obligated to post one at or near day 100. And I bring this up not to belittle the speeches or question their worthiness. I already know, after reading so many, how valuable they are to our quits. But this has been eating at me as I near 100 days quit.
To me, Hall of Fame means a career of superiority. It means you are or were the best at your chosen field or profession. It means you weren't just rewarded for a "hot streak" but rather a long procession of winning seasons. I am not at all trying to buck this ridiculously awesome KTC staple or those that choose to post their HOF speech at day 100. Instead, I was looking for personal feelings toward this practice for those of us that don't want to do it so soon.
One day, maybe at day 100 but probably not, I WILL write a HOF speech. But what if I don't feel ready to do so at day 100? What if I don't yet feel worthy of HOF at day 100?Â
This site has been my lifeline. It probably even saved my life. I know I'm now quit. I know the bitch will enter my thoughts but never my body again. But I relish the thought of writing that speech. I relish, as I recently posted, crying my damn eyes out while putting into words taking my damn life back and all that it means to me. But after 16 years, 100 days was basically yesterday. I want to one day, but I'm not ready to write all of that down yet.
I would love to have your thoughts on that.
You're over thinking it.
Write one when you feel like it. This isn't major league baseball, where a group of sports writers and media members are going vote you in and there's some ceremony where your old coach or son gives a speech about you, before you take the Mic.
The only criteria for our Hall of Fame is to make it 100 days nic free. You do it, you're in. And, in my eyes, you deserve to be. Theres no illusions that after 100 days your "done". Infact its all over the site that nothing ends at 100 days.
Personally I think 100 days is almost like a goal or checkpoint in a LIFETIME of quit. When I first quit I thought 100 days was an impossibility. Fuck, 100 days seemed like 100 years. It was nice that after being told to just "quit for today" that their was always that nice round number of 100 and the hof to look forward too. Nobody said you had to have to make it 100 days AND be some kind of quit legend where everyone looked at you as "one of the best" in the quit field. Who is to judge that anyway? A guy makes it 100 days he's in. He's done something to be hella proud of. Who the fuck would tell him otherwise? You want to write a speech sucking your own dick a little bit and thanking all that have helped you to get to 100 days the minute the counter flips 100 days or whenever you feel like it...it doesn't matter. People are going to read it, dig it, support and congratulate you regardless.
This isn't a "career" where you one day hang up your quit and everyone judges how great your quit was. You're quits over when you fucking die. You wanna write a speech go ahead, who gives a flying fuck when. You don't want to write a speech, again, who gives a fuck. And I personally do feel you are belittling the process. Using the term "hot streak" implies that those who write one often fail, or aren't worthy? I don't get that.
Just keep that cancerous, addicting, controlling, and nasty shit out of your mother fucking mouth.
That's all that really matters. IMHO
Nope, not belittling the practice of speeches. LOVE IT, in fact. Been working towards it for 88 days. Can't wait to write one. I'm just not ready. The problem I have with your reply is the whole "who gives a fuck" angle. I believe this is individual to the quitter. I'm not disagreeing with your position, only offering a rebuttal. We're both offering opinions, after all.
If I wrote a HOF speech in a few days with a "who gives a fuck if anybody reads this" mindset, wouldn't I be saying that I don't really give a fuck about this quit or anybody that reads my ramblings? With that question, I'm also completely agreeing with you that I am HIGHLY overthinking this HOF speech. But so are you.
These speeches are personal yet public to our community. I do give a fuck what it says (when I'm ready to say it,) because what if my speech is the speech that saves somebody's life? I'm capable of writing something compelling enough to do just that. We all are.
I read a post just yesterday or the day before from a KTC quitter that was over 500 days quit and craving, and more than anything, I questioned how powerful my speech needed to be for ME to stay quit. In that moment, I didn't think about saving somebody, I thought about clicking on my own HOF speech when craving, sucking in a lot of air, and trying to remember the time when I wanted to quit that badly. Over 500 days!! I haven't had a crave bad enough to send packing in weeks and this guy nearly had to send out an SOS at over 500 days.
Now that I'm nearly 100 days, I don't ever think I'll earn the title of MVP, but I hope that HOF speech, whenever I write it, helps somebody save their own life. That's why it means a hell of a lot to me.
What? I never said ANYTHING about "who gives a fuck if anybody reads it". I said who gives a fuck WHEN you write it. In fact I said no matter WHEN you write it people will read it, dig it, support and congratulate you regardless.
Do what ever you feel is right. Whenever you feel like it. There's no protocol for when to write a hof speech. Hell...there probably tons of people who never even wrote one.
Ive read every one, and only once was I like, wtf was that dude thinking and I pm'd and asked him. I go back and read mine now and it its weird because I've been been quit twice as long as from the time I wrote it , but its cool to recall that raw emotion that I felt having freshly crossed the hof finish line.
That's my problem right now, Diesel. EMOTION!! It's controlled me the last few days. It will, as evidenced, probably consume me for the next twelve. 100 days just feels superficial to me right now and I'm not sure why. I guess I want 100 to mean more to more people than me. At 100, I guess I want it to mean something to people new to quit who resemble me but to whom I'm not yet worthy enough to give advice. Heck, it's a HOF speech. It will be viewable for months or years on this site.
I respect your thoughts on how you viewed your HOF speech weeks or months after writing it. That raw emotion, etc. That reply was what I was looking for with my initial question. You said it was "cool to recall that raw emotion" from the day you wrote it. That's what I was getting at with my question.
Why, in other words, is it important to write it at 100 days as opposed to 158 or 787? This helps.
For ME it was important to do at 100 simply because of the structure of this site.
I joined the site and read and read about 100 dates, the hof, the different "floors", etc...I dug it. I love adding the floors and dates to my signature. I get off on it a little bit.
Aside from that, take a look at the top of the screen........what do you see? Dudes holding their hof coins. The first 100 days is significant. The coins are a reminder of that. For me I felt compelled to get my thoughts down right after crossing the 100 day mark because it was something I really looked forward to and a goal. To me, what better time to reflect on th path to a goal then right after you get there?
Like I said earlier, the goal of ktc is not to quit for 100 days but to quit for life. I knew my journey wasn't over, in fact far from it, but Damn you have to have SOME measurables and I personally like to push my chest out every 100 days. Nothing wrong with breaking shit down into little chunks.
Your words are confusing to me. I really don't get your point. You seems to be all over the place. Are you scared that before you write your speech you should somehow be "cured" first? That shit ain't gonna happen.
Quit worrying so much about other people and trying to be a martyr.
You had a lot of help along the way but ultimately it is YOU who have remained quit. Take pride in that and type out your journey to the hof for all to see..whenever you want. We aren't going anywhere.
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I wrote a HOF speech. Posted it just minutes after midnight. I go back and reread it every now and then and realize how far I've grown from then to the present. I updte my membership in the HOF Hotel. I've written many things that I consider WAY more powerful than my HOF speech in the days between 101 and 1789. However, I wouldn't take back my HOF speech for anything. I gave props to the people important to me at the time and cited Vanilla Ice. If nothing else, it serves as a source of accomplishment and evidence of my need for continued reflection.
Celebrate the milestones. ButÂ…realize you're still a dipshit. Like me.
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This topic might have been addressed at some point prior to my arrival, but I wanted some feedback. The topic is HOF speeches. My question is whether or not I should feel obligated to post one at or near day 100. And I bring this up not to belittle the speeches or question their worthiness. I already know, after reading so many, how valuable they are to our quits. But this has been eating at me as I near 100 days quit.
To me, Hall of Fame means a career of superiority. It means you are or were the best at your chosen field or profession. It means you weren't just rewarded for a "hot streak" but rather a long procession of winning seasons. I am not at all trying to buck this ridiculously awesome KTC staple or those that choose to post their HOF speech at day 100. Instead, I was looking for personal feelings toward this practice for those of us that don't want to do it so soon.
One day, maybe at day 100 but probably not, I WILL write a HOF speech. But what if I don't feel ready to do so at day 100? What if I don't yet feel worthy of HOF at day 100?
This site has been my lifeline. It probably even saved my life. I know I'm now quit. I know the bitch will enter my thoughts but never my body again. But I relish the thought of writing that speech. I relish, as I recently posted, crying my damn eyes out while putting into words taking my damn life back and all that it means to me. But after 16 years, 100 days was basically yesterday. I want to one day, but I'm not ready to write all of that down yet.
I would love to have your thoughts on that.
I actually felt a lot of pressure to write a HOF speech as I neared 100 days quit. It was aggravating me. It made me feel nervous. It stressed me out. It was and is a big deal to me. In a way, I felt like my HOF speech was going to a bit of a validation that this quit was real and I was really do this. I was in uncharted waters in a sense because the longest I had ever gone "stopping" before was less than two weeks. By writing a HOF speech I felt that there was no going back, if that makes sense. That seems silly to even think about now, but hey, I was struggling a bit back then.
When I finally did sit down to write it, I found it to be VERY therapeutic. There is something about writing down your story. I think it helps you come to terms with periods longer than 100 days quit and how 100 days really only the beginning. I found that writing the HOF speech coincided with a changing mindset when it came to my quit. It was no longer a "sprint" to 100 days. My quit had now become a marathon.
Really, I wrote my HOF speech for me as much as I wrote it to help others. I am glad I wrote it when I did (day 100) because it captured how I was feeling at that point in time. That is something I love to go back and look at whenever I am struggling. That being said, you do what you want brother. You write your speech when you want to. It's YOUR speech. Be selfish if you want. Take your time if you need to. I can tell you that I look forward to reading about your journey though, whenever that may be. Stay quit brother.
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Dlee, I'll throw my 2 cents in. HOF is a milestone, another day. HOF speech is a tool, an opportunity for you to express your thoughts, appreciation, struggles or whatever. This tool is a brief snapshot of what to expect available to those who haven't yet quit and are browsing. If it weren't for that my introduction would cover just about everything that I want to remember from my quit experience. I look at the HOF speech as an opportunity for me to pay forward. If my words spark a thought in the mind of one addict to consider quitting I would consider that worth it. Everything we do here ultimately comes Down to 'take and use and do what you need and leave the rest'. Personally I'm not sure I need your HOF speech, not because it wouldn't be inspiring but because I've followed your quit closely for the 100 days and know your story and am inspired by all of your posts. For newbies or others who may not know you might get that special lift they need by reading whatever you might have to say. Reading your entire intro from the beginning would inspire anyone who reads it, but they may not do that unless their curiosity is sparked by a HOF speech that sparks the curiosity to find out more about you. May you, your quit and 'the kid' continue to be blessed.
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I wrote a HOF speech. Posted it just minutes after midnight. I go back and reread it every now and then and realize how far I've grown from then to the present. I updte my membership in the HOF Hotel. I've written many things that I consider WAY more powerful than my HOF speech in the days between 101 and 1789. However, I wouldn't take back my HOF speech for anything. I gave props to the people important to me at the time and cited Vanilla Ice. If nothing else, it serves as a source of accomplishment and evidence of my need for continued reflection.
Celebrate the milestones. ButÂ…realize you're still a dipshit. Like me.
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Yep, I am indeed a dipshit. So thankful every damn day that I'm in the company of other dipshits.
After reading all of these replies (thanks for that,) I think I failed to consider, as Diesel said, "the structure of this site." I've thought about this all day. HOF here means something different than a freaking sports HOF. It's part of the journey; it's part of the backbone of how things are done here. Who am I to disagree with something so many have used to find success in quitting?
Another thing I failed to consider was the value in looking back for months and years to reread that raw emotion that came with that first 100 days. I wholeheartedly see the value in that. HOFers in sports are done with their careers when awarded that status. We're literally never going to stop being quitters in order to maintain our HOF status.
In other words, I guess it comes with the pressure tsmith talked about, the struggle jbradley talked about, the accomplishment and reflection smokeyg talked about, and pretty much everything Diesel and WT said. What I got from all of that was that basically, like quitting itself, I'm still doing this for ME. If anybody reads my speech and it helps them, great, but I can't make anybody else quit. I was seeing this speech as a way of possibly helping others quit, and if that happens I'll be ecstatic, but this speech is for me. You guys helped me see that.
I'm now looking forward to it. I wrote about my wife in a journal for about a year after she died so that my daughter would somehow "know" her mother. Since then I've written in it every couple of months when I remember something I want my daughter to know. But I did all of that for her. This speech is for me. A lot of it will probably be about what she and fatherhood mean to me, but I need to finally sit down and write this for me. She never knew she lost me because I was always here, but I was lost before she was ever born.
I will finally write this speech in eleven days, when I am a KTC Hall of Famer. Thanks guys!!
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Pre-HOF funk... Yes, I knew what it was and I knew how to fight it, but I wanted to put what happened tonight into my intro.
Tonight my parents made good on a promise (for her birthday) to let the kid spend the night on a weeknight, feed her breakfast, take her to the bus tomorrow morning, etc.
But damn it was a funk for me. Funk = Crave. Too much time on my hands and nothing to do with it.
I was without child from 6 pm til bedtime and it was the first time that a sleepover for the kid really, really sucked for me. I tried to change my mindset to one that resembled those from the first 93 days, but it was NOT happening for a while.
After 93 days, this was my biggest funk, and it came a week before I hit the hall. Remember that newbies. Funks DO NOT END.
The question for me: What caused it? Time alone? Check. Housework taking precedence over fun TV watching? Check. Reality of addiction? Check.
These first 93 days were almost too easy for me. I knew it would crash on me at some point. I'm good now. I've spent the last three or four hours trying my damnedest to fight against something that hadn't put up a good fight for weeks.
Tonight sucked, but I won. But I've spent the last few minutes putting that fight into words so I could read it at some point down the road. I didn't think it possible at this point to crave so badly. I was proved wrong tonight, even after reading all these stories of cravings well past my quit. But, like everything else, I questioned why it happened now.
I think it started with me questioning whether or not something I value so completely (the HOF speech) needed to be written at 100 days.
A few days later, one of my earliest supporters and absolute BAD ASS quitter admitted to an addictive crave (but did not cave.)
Put that together with one of the first nights that I have nothing on deadline, that impending benchmark that is the HOF, those idle hands, and that vet that craved when I didn't expect it, and you get the crave of a pre-HOFer.
For the first time in weeks, I felt like an addict. This shit has been too easy for a while. I see it differently now. Sixteen years an addict does not erase in 93 days.
Tonight I feel like I did in the first ten days of my quit, but I succeeded then and I WILL succeed now. Stay strong, quitters!!
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Pre-HOF funk... Yes, I knew what it was and I knew how to fight it, but I wanted to put what happened tonight into my intro.
Tonight my parents made good on a promise (for her birthday) to let the kid spend the night on a weeknight, feed her breakfast, take her to the bus tomorrow morning, etc.
But damn it was a funk for me. Funk = Crave. Too much time on my hands and nothing to do with it.
I was without child from 6 pm til bedtime and it was the first time that a sleepover for the kid really, really sucked for me. I tried to change my mindset to one that resembled those from the first 93 days, but it was NOT happening for a while.
After 93 days, this was my biggest funk, and it came a week before I hit the hall. Remember that newbies. Funks DO NOT END.
The question for me: What caused it? Time alone? Check. Housework taking precedence over fun TV watching? Check. Reality of addiction? Check.
These first 93 days were almost too easy for me. I knew it would crash on me at some point. I'm good now. I've spent the last three or four hours trying my damnedest to fight against something that hadn't put up a good fight for weeks.
Tonight sucked, but I won. But I've spent the last few minutes putting that fight into words so I could read it at some point down the road. I didn't think it possible at this point to crave so badly. I was proved wrong tonight, even after reading all these stories of cravings well past my quit. But, like everything else, I questioned why it happened now.
I think it started with me questioning whether or not something I value so completely (the HOF speech) needed to be written at 100 days.
A few days later, one of my earliest supporters and absolute BAD ASS quitter admitted to an addictive crave (but did not cave.)
Put that together with one of the first nights that I have nothing on deadline, that impending benchmark that is the HOF, those idle hands, and that vet that craved when I didn't expect it, and you get the crave of a pre-HOFer.
For the first time in weeks, I felt like an addict. This shit has been too easy for a while. I see it differently now. Sixteen years an addict does not erase in 93 days.
Tonight I feel like I did in the first ten days of my quit, but I succeeded then and I WILL succeed now. Stay strong, quitters!!
I was climbing up the walls the first weekend I was all by myself in the house. I ended up having to really buckle down and take it minute by minute at times. I hadn't felt like that since Day 4 or 5! The mere fact that you came here to talk about your difficulties tells me that you are going to be just fine. Craves suck, but they will only get easier to deal with. Every victory makes you stronger.
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Pre-HOF funk... Yes, I knew what it was and I knew how to fight it, but I wanted to put what happened tonight into my intro.
Tonight my parents made good on a promise (for her birthday) to let the kid spend the night on a weeknight, feed her breakfast, take her to the bus tomorrow morning, etc.Â
But damn it was a funk for me. Funk = Crave. Too much time on my hands and nothing to do with it.
I was without child from 6 pm til bedtime and it was the first time that a sleepover for the kid really, really sucked for me. I tried to change my mindset to one that resembled those from the first 93 days, but it was NOT happening for a while.Â
After 93 days, this was my biggest funk, and it came a week before I hit the hall. Remember that newbies. Funks DO NOT END.Â
The question for me: What caused it? Time alone? Check. Housework taking precedence over fun TV watching? Check. Reality of addiction? Check.
These first 93 days were almost too easy for me. I knew it would crash on me at some point. I'm good now. I've spent the last three or four hours trying my damnedest to fight against something that hadn't put up a good fight for weeks.
Tonight sucked, but I won. But I've spent the last few minutes putting that fight into words so I could read it at some point down the road. I didn't think it possible at this point to crave so badly. I was proved wrong tonight, even after reading all these stories of cravings well past my quit. But, like everything else, I questioned why it happened now.
I think it started with me questioning whether or not something I value so completely (the HOF speech) needed to be written at 100 days.
A few days later, one of my earliest supporters and absolute BAD ASS quitter admitted to an addictive crave (but did not cave.)Â
Put that together with one of the first nights that I have nothing on deadline, that impending benchmark that is the HOF, those idle hands, and that vet that craved when I didn't expect it, and you get the crave of a pre-HOFer.Â
For the first time in weeks, I felt like an addict. This shit has been too easy for a while. I see it differently now. Sixteen years an addict does not erase in 93 days.Â
Tonight I feel like I did in the first ten days of my quit, but I succeeded then and I WILL succeed now. Stay strong, quitters!!
I was climbing up the walls the first weekend I was all by myself in the house. I ended up having to really buckle down and take it minute by minute at times. I hadn't felt like that since Day 4 or 5! The mere fact that you came here to talk about your difficulties tells me that you are going to be just fine. Craves suck, but they will only get easier to deal with. Every victory makes you stronger.
Thanks for posting Dlee3. Speaking the truth man. Congrats on a great victory. I quit with you all day long.
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Pre-HOF funk... Yes, I knew what it was and I knew how to fight it, but I wanted to put what happened tonight into my intro.
Tonight my parents made good on a promise (for her birthday) to let the kid spend the night on a weeknight, feed her breakfast, take her to the bus tomorrow morning, etc.Â
But damn it was a funk for me. Funk = Crave. Too much time on my hands and nothing to do with it.
I was without child from 6 pm til bedtime and it was the first time that a sleepover for the kid really, really sucked for me. I tried to change my mindset to one that resembled those from the first 93 days, but it was NOT happening for a while.Â
After 93 days, this was my biggest funk, and it came a week before I hit the hall. Remember that newbies. Funks DO NOT END.Â
The question for me: What caused it? Time alone? Check. Housework taking precedence over fun TV watching? Check. Reality of addiction? Check.
These first 93 days were almost too easy for me. I knew it would crash on me at some point. I'm good now. I've spent the last three or four hours trying my damnedest to fight against something that hadn't put up a good fight for weeks.
Tonight sucked, but I won. But I've spent the last few minutes putting that fight into words so I could read it at some point down the road. I didn't think it possible at this point to crave so badly. I was proved wrong tonight, even after reading all these stories of cravings well past my quit. But, like everything else, I questioned why it happened now.
I think it started with me questioning whether or not something I value so completely (the HOF speech) needed to be written at 100 days.
A few days later, one of my earliest supporters and absolute BAD ASS quitter admitted to an addictive crave (but did not cave.)Â
Put that together with one of the first nights that I have nothing on deadline, that impending benchmark that is the HOF, those idle hands, and that vet that craved when I didn't expect it, and you get the crave of a pre-HOFer.Â
For the first time in weeks, I felt like an addict. This shit has been too easy for a while. I see it differently now. Sixteen years an addict does not erase in 93 days.Â
Tonight I feel like I did in the first ten days of my quit, but I succeeded then and I WILL succeed now. Stay strong, quitters!!
I was climbing up the walls the first weekend I was all by myself in the house. I ended up having to really buckle down and take it minute by minute at times. I hadn't felt like that since Day 4 or 5! The mere fact that you came here to talk about your difficulties tells me that you are going to be just fine. Craves suck, but they will only get easier to deal with. Every victory makes you stronger.
Thanks for posting Dlee3. Speaking the truth man. Congrats on a great victory. I quit with you all day long.
Good stuff Dlee3,
You have the tools and you're using them!!! Way to go brother!! 'bang head'
Re-wiring takes awhile. I personally don't care if my re-wiring takes the rest of my life, NAFAR!!!
I'll quit today with your funk Sir!! 'zombie'
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Pre-HOF funk... Yes, I knew what it was and I knew how to fight it, but I wanted to put what happened tonight into my intro.
Tonight my parents made good on a promise (for her birthday) to let the kid spend the night on a weeknight, feed her breakfast, take her to the bus tomorrow morning, etc.Â
But damn it was a funk for me. Funk = Crave. Too much time on my hands and nothing to do with it.
I was without child from 6 pm til bedtime and it was the first time that a sleepover for the kid really, really sucked for me. I tried to change my mindset to one that resembled those from the first 93 days, but it was NOT happening for a while.Â
After 93 days, this was my biggest funk, and it came a week before I hit the hall. Remember that newbies. Funks DO NOT END.Â
The question for me: What caused it? Time alone? Check. Housework taking precedence over fun TV watching? Check. Reality of addiction? Check.
These first 93 days were almost too easy for me. I knew it would crash on me at some point. I'm good now. I've spent the last three or four hours trying my damnedest to fight against something that hadn't put up a good fight for weeks.
Tonight sucked, but I won. But I've spent the last few minutes putting that fight into words so I could read it at some point down the road. I didn't think it possible at this point to crave so badly. I was proved wrong tonight, even after reading all these stories of cravings well past my quit. But, like everything else, I questioned why it happened now.
I think it started with me questioning whether or not something I value so completely (the HOF speech) needed to be written at 100 days.
A few days later, one of my earliest supporters and absolute BAD ASS quitter admitted to an addictive crave (but did not cave.)Â
Put that together with one of the first nights that I have nothing on deadline, that impending benchmark that is the HOF, those idle hands, and that vet that craved when I didn't expect it, and you get the crave of a pre-HOFer.Â
For the first time in weeks, I felt like an addict. This shit has been too easy for a while. I see it differently now. Sixteen years an addict does not erase in 93 days.Â
Tonight I feel like I did in the first ten days of my quit, but I succeeded then and I WILL succeed now. Stay strong, quitters!!
I was climbing up the walls the first weekend I was all by myself in the house. I ended up having to really buckle down and take it minute by minute at times. I hadn't felt like that since Day 4 or 5! The mere fact that you came here to talk about your difficulties tells me that you are going to be just fine. Craves suck, but they will only get easier to deal with. Every victory makes you stronger.
Thanks for posting Dlee3. Speaking the truth man. Congrats on a great victory. I quit with you all day long.
Good stuff Dlee3,
You have the tools and you're using them!!! Way to go brother!! 'bang head'
Re-wiring takes awhile. I personally don't care if my re-wiring takes the rest of my life, NAFAR!!!
I'll quit today with your funk Sir!! 'zombie'
I quit with you too! Way to handle that craving.
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Pre-HOF funk... Yes, I knew what it was and I knew how to fight it, but I wanted to put what happened tonight into my intro.
Tonight my parents made good on a promise (for her birthday) to let the kid spend the night on a weeknight, feed her breakfast, take her to the bus tomorrow morning, etc.Â
But damn it was a funk for me. Funk = Crave. Too much time on my hands and nothing to do with it.
I was without child from 6 pm til bedtime and it was the first time that a sleepover for the kid really, really sucked for me. I tried to change my mindset to one that resembled those from the first 93 days, but it was NOT happening for a while.Â
After 93 days, this was my biggest funk, and it came a week before I hit the hall. Remember that newbies. Funks DO NOT END.Â
The question for me: What caused it? Time alone? Check. Housework taking precedence over fun TV watching? Check. Reality of addiction? Check.
These first 93 days were almost too easy for me. I knew it would crash on me at some point. I'm good now. I've spent the last three or four hours trying my damnedest to fight against something that hadn't put up a good fight for weeks.
Tonight sucked, but I won. But I've spent the last few minutes putting that fight into words so I could read it at some point down the road. I didn't think it possible at this point to crave so badly. I was proved wrong tonight, even after reading all these stories of cravings well past my quit. But, like everything else, I questioned why it happened now.
I think it started with me questioning whether or not something I value so completely (the HOF speech) needed to be written at 100 days.
A few days later, one of my earliest supporters and absolute BAD ASS quitter admitted to an addictive crave (but did not cave.)Â
Put that together with one of the first nights that I have nothing on deadline, that impending benchmark that is the HOF, those idle hands, and that vet that craved when I didn't expect it, and you get the crave of a pre-HOFer.Â
For the first time in weeks, I felt like an addict. This shit has been too easy for a while. I see it differently now. Sixteen years an addict does not erase in 93 days.Â
Tonight I feel like I did in the first ten days of my quit, but I succeeded then and I WILL succeed now. Stay strong, quitters!!
I was climbing up the walls the first weekend I was all by myself in the house. I ended up having to really buckle down and take it minute by minute at times. I hadn't felt like that since Day 4 or 5! The mere fact that you came here to talk about your difficulties tells me that you are going to be just fine. Craves suck, but they will only get easier to deal with. Every victory makes you stronger.
Thanks for posting Dlee3. Speaking the truth man. Congrats on a great victory. I quit with you all day long.
Good stuff Dlee3,
You have the tools and you're using them!!! Way to go brother!! 'bang head'
Re-wiring takes awhile. I personally don't care if my re-wiring takes the rest of my life, NAFAR!!!
I'll quit today with your funk Sir!! 'zombie'
I quit with you too! Way to handle that craving.
good shit...
Honesty with our weaknesses can really help everyone out. The important thing was you stayed quit! good job
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Pre-HOF funk... Yes, I knew what it was and I knew how to fight it, but I wanted to put what happened tonight into my intro.
Tonight my parents made good on a promise (for her birthday) to let the kid spend the night on a weeknight, feed her breakfast, take her to the bus tomorrow morning, etc.Â
But damn it was a funk for me. Funk = Crave. Too much time on my hands and nothing to do with it.
I was without child from 6 pm til bedtime and it was the first time that a sleepover for the kid really, really sucked for me. I tried to change my mindset to one that resembled those from the first 93 days, but it was NOT happening for a while.Â
After 93 days, this was my biggest funk, and it came a week before I hit the hall. Remember that newbies. Funks DO NOT END.Â
The question for me: What caused it? Time alone? Check. Housework taking precedence over fun TV watching? Check. Reality of addiction? Check.
These first 93 days were almost too easy for me. I knew it would crash on me at some point. I'm good now. I've spent the last three or four hours trying my damnedest to fight against something that hadn't put up a good fight for weeks.
Tonight sucked, but I won. But I've spent the last few minutes putting that fight into words so I could read it at some point down the road. I didn't think it possible at this point to crave so badly. I was proved wrong tonight, even after reading all these stories of cravings well past my quit. But, like everything else, I questioned why it happened now.
I think it started with me questioning whether or not something I value so completely (the HOF speech) needed to be written at 100 days.
A few days later, one of my earliest supporters and absolute BAD ASS quitter admitted to an addictive crave (but did not cave.)Â
Put that together with one of the first nights that I have nothing on deadline, that impending benchmark that is the HOF, those idle hands, and that vet that craved when I didn't expect it, and you get the crave of a pre-HOFer.Â
For the first time in weeks, I felt like an addict. This shit has been too easy for a while. I see it differently now. Sixteen years an addict does not erase in 93 days.Â
Tonight I feel like I did in the first ten days of my quit, but I succeeded then and I WILL succeed now. Stay strong, quitters!!
I was climbing up the walls the first weekend I was all by myself in the house. I ended up having to really buckle down and take it minute by minute at times. I hadn't felt like that since Day 4 or 5! The mere fact that you came here to talk about your difficulties tells me that you are going to be just fine. Craves suck, but they will only get easier to deal with. Every victory makes you stronger.
Thanks for posting Dlee3. Speaking the truth man. Congrats on a great victory. I quit with you all day long.
Good stuff Dlee3,
You have the tools and you're using them!!! Way to go brother!! 'bang head'
Re-wiring takes awhile. I personally don't care if my re-wiring takes the rest of my life, NAFAR!!!
I'll quit today with your funk Sir!! 'zombie'
I quit with you too! Way to handle that craving.
good shit...
Honesty with our weaknesses can really help everyone out. The important thing was you stayed quit! good job
Thanks for the kudos, guys. I LOVE this damn site.
I'll clarify that this was NOT the first night I have had time on my hands and been alone. Dear Lord! A single daddy going 93 days (now 94, yay) without the kid out of the house would have nearly assured a cave. I would go mad without sleepovers. Instead, last night was the first night I had absolutely nothing to do but housework that could have been put off. I know why it happened (I'll always be an addict,) but it was a really shitty night.
So today my parents got my kid on the bus and I basically met her at school for her field trip. I was with 150 screaming kids from 8:30 this morning until 8:00 tonight. Three months ago that ended with a much-needed dip.
Tonight I was unable to crave or cave. I'm too freaking tired to crave anything but sleep. Tonight I crave the freedom I worked so hard for: the freedom to go get in bed and read myself to sleep.
More than that, last night and today reinvigorated my perspective. Amongst all the chaos of 150 kids, I actually had the type of fun that comes with being a quitter. I was with my daughter, after all.
Thanks for posting roll for me, Evil.
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I know I've seen this somewhere on this site before, but in conversation today a friend asked me why it took me so long to start sleeping well. It was all the shit in dip, I said, but to prove it I quickly found this. This is good for all of us, but I did this for the newbs.
What are the ingredients in smokeless tobacco?
• Polonium 210 (nuclear waste)
• N-Nitrosamines (cancer-causing)
• Formaldehyde (embalming fluid)
• Nicotine (addictive drug)
• Cadmium (used in batteries and nuclear reactor shields)
• Cyanide (poisonous compound)
• Arsenic (poisonous metallic element)
• Benzene (used in insecticides and motor fuels)
• Lead (nerve poison)
'Nuff said, I presume.
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I know I've seen this somewhere on this site before, but in conversation today a friend asked me why it took me so long to start sleeping well. It was all the shit in dip, I said, but to prove it I quickly found this. This is good for all of us, but I did this for the newbs.
What are the ingredients in smokeless tobacco?
• Polonium 210 (nuclear waste)
• N-Nitrosamines (cancer-causing)
• Formaldehyde (embalming fluid)
• Nicotine (addictive drug)
• Cadmium (used in batteries and nuclear reactor shields)
• Cyanide (poisonous compound)
• Arsenic (poisonous metallic element)
• Benzene (used in insecticides and motor fuels)
• Lead (nerve poison)
'Nuff said, I presume.
Damn, I have never saw that before. Its a wonder this stuff didn't kill us after just a few dips. If they put those ingredients on the side of the can it may deture some people from ever using.
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I know I've seen this somewhere on this site before, but in conversation today a friend asked me why it took me so long to start sleeping well. It was all the shit in dip, I said, but to prove it I quickly found this. This is good for all of us, but I did this for the newbs.
What are the ingredients in smokeless tobacco?
• Polonium 210 (nuclear waste)
• N-Nitrosamines (cancer-causing)
• Formaldehyde (embalming fluid)
• Nicotine (addictive drug)
• Cadmium (used in batteries and nuclear reactor shields)
• Cyanide (poisonous compound)
• Arsenic (poisonous metallic element)
• Benzene (used in insecticides and motor fuels)
• Lead (nerve poison)
'Nuff said, I presume.
Holly shit man. I knew it had some nasty stuff in it but what the fuck. If only they were required to put the ingredients on the tin.......why are the tobacco companies allowed to get away with it??
It's funny you mention taking a long time to start sleeping well.........since being off smokeless tobacco, I have haven't slept so good since before starting the shit back in high school.
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HOF day kinda sucked in all regards except gaining that status. I'm a proud quitter regardless. Bleekerdogs, CB-Man, Guido, and Gonzo, I'm proud to join with you today. Even prouder to join with those that joined before me.
HOF day was a shitty day for me, but it had nothing to do with dip. It was just shitty. I go to bed proud, however, that it was one shitty day in a new lifetime of freedom. For everybody that has supported me vocally, I thank you (and I'll do better than that when I have time to write a speech.) For those who never expressed their support, I know from the makeup of this site that you supported me and everybody else that has ever sought the freedom this site affords, even if your support was silent. This brotherhood does not need to voice its support to be recognizable.
Today was a bad day in real life but an awesome day to be quit. Tomorrow will be better.
I love my new attitude on life. It wasn't there 100 days ago. We quit here, and we gain a brand new life. Frankly, I love even the shitty days because I know feeding my addiction would only make them shittier. I quit with thousands of you today because thousands of you quit with me.
And yes, I cried when I wrote that. I'll need a good bit of terry cloth when I write my speech.
QUITTING ROCKS, PEOPLE!!! Where else in this world can you really ever hope to achieve Hall of Fame status while being famous only to those that love you? Quit nicotine and you are a Hall of Famer in the eyes of the people that understand what that really means.
Quitters are real life Hall of Famers. Glad I'm one of them.
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HOF day kinda sucked in all regards except gaining that status. I'm a proud quitter regardless. Bleekerdogs, CB-Man, Guido, and Gonzo, I'm proud to join with you today. Even prouder to join with those that joined before me.
HOF day was a shitty day for me, but it had nothing to do with dip. It was just shitty. I go to bed proud, however, that it was one shitty day in a new lifetime of freedom. For everybody that has supported me vocally, I thank you (and I'll do better than that when I have time to write a speech.) For those who never expressed their support, I know from the makeup of this site that you supported me and everybody else that has ever sought the freedom this site affords, even if your support was silent. This brotherhood does not need to voice its support to be recognizable.
Today was a bad day in real life but an awesome day to be quit. Tomorrow will be better.
I love my new attitude on life. It wasn't there 100 days ago. We quit here, and we gain a brand new life. Frankly, I love even the shitty days because I know feeding my addiction would only make them shittier. I quit with thousands of you today because thousands of you quit with me.
And yes, I cried when I wrote that. I'll need a good bit of terry cloth when I write my speech.
QUITTING ROCKS, PEOPLE!!! Where else in this world can you really ever hope to achieve Hall of Fame status while being famous only to those that love you? Quit nicotine and you are a Hall of Famer in the eyes of the people that understand what that really means.
Quitters are real life Hall of Famers. Glad I'm one of them.
Well, congrats on the HOF. The place of champions. Its a well deserved crown, you now wear.
Sounds like you had a shitty day. Hopefully over the past 100 days you've learned that they happen. Nic related or not life is gonna throw some shit at you.
Not everything in life is dip related...remember that. I had and still have a hard time with that fact.
I still give it too much credit. I have to remember my world no longer orbits around a tin. I killed the can.
Some days life kicks me in the balls and I think to myself "stupid kodiak". But now I catch myself. I think, "why am I even bringing that shit into the equation? I haven't used it in 10 months, I have no craving for it, and it has nothing to do with anything "
I used it as a crutch when I was chin dipping like a moron and even though I haven't used it in 334 days I use it as a crutch when I don't feel well or I have a bad day.
Everyday life does not know dip exists. We MADE it a part of everyday life. That was easy. Now we have to remind ourselves that sometimes life just happens and not every day will be great just because we quit. That's been the hard part for me.
Anyway ...I'm rambling. GREAT JOB ON THE HOF. Hope you have a better day tomorrow. I have a feeling you will.
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HOF day kinda sucked in all regards except gaining that status. I'm a proud quitter regardless. Bleekerdogs, CB-Man, Guido, and Gonzo, I'm proud to join with you today. Even prouder to join with those that joined before me.Â
HOF day was a shitty day for me, but it had nothing to do with dip. It was just shitty. I go to bed proud, however, that it was one shitty day in a new lifetime of freedom. For everybody that has supported me vocally, I thank you (and I'll do better than that when I have time to write a speech.) For those who never expressed their support, I know from the makeup of this site that you supported me and everybody else that has ever sought the freedom this site affords, even if your support was silent. This brotherhood does not need to voice its support to be recognizable.Â
Today was a bad day in real life but an awesome day to be quit. Tomorrow will be better.
I love my new attitude on life. It wasn't there 100 days ago. We quit here, and we gain a brand new life. Frankly, I love even the shitty days because I know feeding my addiction would only make them shittier. I quit with thousands of you today because thousands of you quit with me.Â
And yes, I cried when I wrote that. I'll need a good bit of terry cloth when I write my speech.Â
QUITTING ROCKS, PEOPLE!!! Where else in this world can you really ever hope to achieve Hall of Fame status while being famous only to those that love you? Quit nicotine and you are a Hall of Famer in the eyes of the people that understand what that really means.Â
Quitters are real life Hall of Famers. Glad I'm one of them.
Well, congrats on the HOF. The place of champions. Its a well deserved crown, you now wear.
Sounds like you had a shitty day. Hopefully over the past 100 days you've learned that they happen. Nic related or not life is gonna throw some shit at you.
Not everything in life is dip related...remember that. I had and still have a hard time with that fact.
I still give it too much credit. I have to remember my world no longer orbits around a tin. I killed the can.
Some days life kicks me in the balls and I think to myself "stupid kodiak". But now I catch myself. I think, "why am I even bringing that shit into the equation? I haven't used it in 10 months, I have no craving for it, and it has nothing to do with anything "
I used it as a crutch when I was chin dipping like a moron and even though I haven't used it in 334 days I use it as a crutch when I don't feel well or I have a bad day.
Everyday life does not know dip exists. We MADE it a part of everyday life. That was easy. Now we have to remind ourselves that sometimes life just happens and not every day will be great just because we quit. That's been the hard part for me.
Anyway ...I'm rambling. GREAT JOB ON THE HOF. Hope you have a better day tomorrow. I have a feeling you will.
Congrats Dlee, proud to be quit you. I agree with diesel, we have shitty days and we have to take them along with the good. As a former nic user you just have to train yourself how to deal with stress and turmoil without the fix. The dip never made your problems better, it only made you feel better.....................for about 30 min. Then you had to throw another one in. That is the lie man, that is the addiction.
In my adult life I never learned to experience emotions without the influence of nicotine. This has been the hardest part, (outside of the suck). Give it some time friend.
We have started on a great path, and I believe we conquered the steepest hill in the journey, (the first 100 days). I expect bumps and challenge on the journey to 2nd floor but now that we are becoming experts I expect it to be far easier. See you on the roll.
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You sir, cast a giant shadow with your attitude about life. Give yourself a well deserved pat on the back from me. Nice Job !
Now join me, and KTC tomorrow when we quit again.
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You are an inspiration. I will make sure to read your entire intro posts. Thank you keep it up good sir!
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Just wanted to tell you guys that I absolutely love this place. I love the support, the angst, the guys that call you out. I just love it all. I'm about to leave for the weekend for the beach with the kid's soccer team, and I will take you all with me. I've been in school (at 35 years old) for the past year and it's been a time-management bitch, but I get on here every damn night just to ground my quit and put me in the presence of addicts that share some commonalities.
I had nothing to do tonight, and I think I posted the most of any day in my nearly five months since quit. Quitting is FUN, you pussies, when you truly feel like you have support. We got support here, and I feel nostalgic in appreciating it.
By the way, I just got my Masters degree. I'll use the words "luck" and "hope" in their proper forms on this site. Wish me luck in finding a decent job. Stay-at-home-daddy time is OVER (I hope.)
Dlee3
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I want you to know I find your defense of ET to be a commendable act. Misguided but well ment.
Thor's job in Asgard is to defend it from the Giants of Jountheim. So this little guy faces huge giants to keep his own safe. The European version of David and Goliath. You are taking an active part in that, much better that ET. I do respect that.
While your intentions are good, remember that ultimately he has to make a choice. Not you or anyone else can keep ET from phoning home and "checking his quit" by getting another can.
At this stage of things, you have a great deal to experience before you fully understand what I am telling you and all of us understand that. Spend your time with those in your group that have made a serious commitment. I fear ET may turn around later and pull this game again and your efforts will be for naught, but do as you will.
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I want you to know I find your defense of ET to be a commendable act. Misguided but well ment.
Thor's job in Asgard is to defend it from the Giants of Jountheim. So this little guy faces huge giants to keep his own safe. The European version of David and Goliath. You are taking an active part in that, much better that ET. I do respect that.
While your intentions are good, remember that ultimately he has to make a choice. Not you or anyone else can keep ET from phoning home and "checking his quit" by getting another can.
At this stage of things, you have a great deal to experience before you fully understand what I am telling you and all of us understand that. Spend your time with those in your group that have made a serious commitment. I fear ET may turn around later and pull this game again and your efforts will be for naught, but do as you will.
Misguided is my life for the most part, Mj. I just figure you never know if a lost soul needs a misguided one to succeed. I'll take the chance.
And BTW, I had no idea that Norse Mythology was a contemporary religion of choice. I have no idea what you just said to me in that post, but it sounded sacredly gnarly.
Respect both ways!!
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Quitting is FUN, you pussies, when you truly feel like you have support.
Oh I dig this..... Too many people are afraid to succeed. It's all doom and gloom. And fear. Woe is me....it's so hard...etc etc etc. It doesn't need to be that way. It's all about shifting your mentality. If you understand that everything about nicotine is a lie then a quitting is FUN attitude can be obtained. I found it early on - some never do. I quit all day everyday and I celebrate it. Quit with you man.
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Guys and gals, I have been MIA for about three days and it has been killing me. I think I posted roll late Wednesday and again a few minutes ago. Unacceptable, I know. Trust me, I know.
I hope you guys will forgive me. I suddenly have a new woman in my life and it happened so fast it threw me for a fucking loop. It's been incredible and I doubt I would have ever found a way to like her more than dip if it weren't for this place. I have actually thought about that a lot over the past few days. I was married and I loved dip more than her. Dip was the only thing I was accountable to. This is the first time in five years I feel like the future is mine for the taking. I realize new relationships don't always work, but I love the outlook right now. It is absolutely amazing how life without dip changes your outlook on the simplest things and turns the really important stuff sacred.
And please forgive my giddiness.
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Guys and gals, I have been MIA for about three days and it has been killing me. I think I posted roll late Wednesday and again a few minutes ago. Unacceptable, I know. Trust me, I know.
I hope you guys will forgive me. I suddenly have a new woman in my life and it happened so fast it threw me for a fucking loop. It's been incredible and I doubt I would have ever found a way to like her more than dip if it weren't for this place. I have actually thought about that a lot over the past few days. I was married and I loved dip more than her. Dip was the only thing I was accountable to. This is the first time in five years I feel like the future is mine for the taking. I realize new relationships don't always work, but I love the outlook right now. It is absolutely amazing how life without dip changes your outlook on the simplest things and turns the really important stuff sacred.
And please forgive my giddiness.
Holy shit! Are you ready for this? Call if needed; this is major.
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Guys and gals, I have been MIA for about three days and it has been killing me. I think I posted roll late Wednesday and again a few minutes ago. Unacceptable, I know. Trust me, I know.
I hope you guys will forgive me. I suddenly have a new woman in my life and it happened so fast it threw me for a fucking loop. It's been incredible and I doubt I would have ever found a way to like her more than dip if it weren't for this place. I have actually thought about that a lot over the past few days. I was married and I loved dip more than her. Dip was the only thing I was accountable to. This is the first time in five years I feel like the future is mine for the taking. I realize new relationships don't always work, but I love the outlook right now. It is absolutely amazing how life without dip changes your outlook on the simplest things and turns the really important stuff sacred.
And please forgive my giddiness.
Holy shit! Are you ready for this? Call if needed; this is major.
I think a school girl hijacked his intro.
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Guys and gals, I have been MIA for about three days and it has been killing me. I think I posted roll late Wednesday and again a few minutes ago. Unacceptable, I know. Trust me, I know.
I hope you guys will forgive me. I suddenly have a new woman in my life and it happened so fast it threw me for a fucking loop. It's been incredible and I doubt I would have ever found a way to like her more than dip if it weren't for this place. I have actually thought about that a lot over the past few days. I was married and I loved dip more than her. Dip was the only thing I was accountable to. This is the first time in five years I feel like the future is mine for the taking. I realize new relationships don't always work, but I love the outlook right now. It is absolutely amazing how life without dip changes your outlook on the simplest things and turns the really important stuff sacred.
And please forgive my giddiness.
Holy shit! Are you ready for this? Call if needed; this is major.
I think a school girl hijacked his intro.
I was thinking the same thing Diesel.... 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup'
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Guys and gals, I have been MIA for about three days and it has been killing me. I think I posted roll late Wednesday and again a few minutes ago. Unacceptable, I know. Trust me, I know.
I hope you guys will forgive me. I suddenly have a new woman in my life and it happened so fast it threw me for a fucking loop. It's been incredible and I doubt I would have ever found a way to like her more than dip if it weren't for this place. I have actually thought about that a lot over the past few days. I was married and I loved dip more than her. Dip was the only thing I was accountable to. This is the first time in five years I feel like the future is mine for the taking. I realize new relationships don't always work, but I love the outlook right now. It is absolutely amazing how life without dip changes your outlook on the simplest things and turns the really important stuff sacred.
And please forgive my giddiness.
Holy shit! Are you ready for this? Call if needed; this is major.
I think a school girl hijacked his intro.
I was thinking the same thing Diesel.... 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup'
Is it wrong to feel like a school girl? I do. I really do. I'm a fucking mess. Thank you, evil, diesel, and jaynellie for recognizing it. But I'm really fucking happy about it. I can't even sleep. School girls are more manly than I am right now. And yes, Evil, I'm ready. Feels fucking great!!
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Guys and gals, I have been MIA for about three days and it has been killing me. I think I posted roll late Wednesday and again a few minutes ago. Unacceptable, I know. Trust me, I know.
I hope you guys will forgive me. I suddenly have a new woman in my life and it happened so fast it threw me for a fucking loop. It's been incredible and I doubt I would have ever found a way to like her more than dip if it weren't for this place. I have actually thought about that a lot over the past few days. I was married and I loved dip more than her. Dip was the only thing I was accountable to. This is the first time in five years I feel like the future is mine for the taking. I realize new relationships don't always work, but I love the outlook right now. It is absolutely amazing how life without dip changes your outlook on the simplest things and turns the really important stuff sacred.
And please forgive my giddiness.
Holy shit! Are you ready for this? Call if needed; this is major.
I think a school girl hijacked his intro.
I was thinking the same thing Diesel.... 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup'
Is it wrong to feel like a school girl? I do. I really do. I'm a fucking mess. Thank you, evil, diesel, and jaynellie for recognizing it. But I'm really fucking happy about it. I can't even sleep. School girls are more manly than I am right now. And yes, Evil, I'm ready. Feels fucking great!!
Congrats, I wish nothing but the best for you and your daughter. Take this like your quit, one day at a time.
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Guys and gals, I have been MIA for about three days and it has been killing me. I think I posted roll late Wednesday and again a few minutes ago. Unacceptable, I know. Trust me, I know.
I hope you guys will forgive me. I suddenly have a new woman in my life and it happened so fast it threw me for a fucking loop. It's been incredible and I doubt I would have ever found a way to like her more than dip if it weren't for this place. I have actually thought about that a lot over the past few days. I was married and I loved dip more than her. Dip was the only thing I was accountable to. This is the first time in five years I feel like the future is mine for the taking. I realize new relationships don't always work, but I love the outlook right now. It is absolutely amazing how life without dip changes your outlook on the simplest things and turns the really important stuff sacred.
And please forgive my giddiness.
Holy shit! Are you ready for this? Call if needed; this is major.
I think a school girl hijacked his intro.
I was thinking the same thing Diesel.... 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup'
Is it wrong to feel like a school girl? I do. I really do. I'm a fucking mess. Thank you, evil, diesel, and jaynellie for recognizing it. But I'm really fucking happy about it. I can't even sleep. School girls are more manly than I am right now. And yes, Evil, I'm ready. Feels fucking great!!
I am happy for you man, that kind of stuff is rare. however, it is not a reason to miss roll.
First off, the euphoric feeling could be more dangerous than drinking. if there is one thing that makes men do dumber stuff than drugs or alcohol, its early relationship emotions. Enjoy it, but make sure you are protecting your quit just as passionately.
Second, you have thrown a lot at new quitters, particularly a certain caver, about accountability and roll posting. Don't be a hypocrite.
Never, ever let your quit guard down. Before you know it you will be trying to sleep with both women again. Chances are the new lady won't be down with all that.
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Guys and gals, I have been MIA for about three days and it has been killing me. I think I posted roll late Wednesday and again a few minutes ago. Unacceptable, I know. Trust me, I know.
I hope you guys will forgive me. I suddenly have a new woman in my life and it happened so fast it threw me for a fucking loop. It's been incredible and I doubt I would have ever found a way to like her more than dip if it weren't for this place. I have actually thought about that a lot over the past few days. I was married and I loved dip more than her. Dip was the only thing I was accountable to. This is the first time in five years I feel like the future is mine for the taking. I realize new relationships don't always work, but I love the outlook right now. It is absolutely amazing how life without dip changes your outlook on the simplest things and turns the really important stuff sacred.
And please forgive my giddiness.
Holy shit! Are you ready for this? Call if needed; this is major.
I think a school girl hijacked his intro.
I was thinking the same thing Diesel.... 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup'
Is it wrong to feel like a school girl? I do. I really do. I'm a fucking mess. Thank you, evil, diesel, and jaynellie for recognizing it. But I'm really fucking happy about it. I can't even sleep. School girls are more manly than I am right now. And yes, Evil, I'm ready. Feels fucking great!!
I am happy for you man, that kind of stuff is rare. however, it is not a reason to miss roll.
First off, the euphoric feeling could be more dangerous than drinking. if there is one thing that makes men do dumber stuff than drugs or alcohol, its early relationship emotions. Enjoy it, but make sure you are protecting your quit just as passionately.
Second, you have thrown a lot at new quitters, particularly a certain caver, about accountability and roll posting. Don't be a hypocrite.
Never, ever let your quit guard down. Before you know it you will be trying to sleep with both women again. Chances are the new lady won't be down with all that.
Damn, you are a buzzkill, J2B. But you are absolutely right, not that you need me to tell you. This was my first two days missing roll, and for that, I am an absolute hypocrite. Thanks for calling me on it.
I think this is a lesson for me, above all else, and I didn't see it until J2B chopped off my knees. Nothing good happens on the outside with a person's quit until they're able to see that it actually has everything and nothing to do with their quit. For everybody else, it's just life, and good stuff happens sometimes. For us, we have to find a way to relate it to quitting. In my case, I spent so much time the past few days ignoring the foundation of my quit that I actually ignored it. That ain't right, boys and girls. Though I was swimming in good shit, I somehow shat upon our daily promise. I'm sorry.
I'm really happy right now, but I owe that happiness to KTC. Sorry I was a hypocrite. Post roll every fucking day. I missed two days, I'm sorry, and J2B speaks the truth. It'll never happen again.
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Guys and gals, I have been MIA for about three days and it has been killing me. I think I posted roll late Wednesday and again a few minutes ago. Unacceptable, I know. Trust me, I know.
I hope you guys will forgive me. I suddenly have a new woman in my life and it happened so fast it threw me for a fucking loop. It's been incredible and I doubt I would have ever found a way to like her more than dip if it weren't for this place. I have actually thought about that a lot over the past few days. I was married and I loved dip more than her. Dip was the only thing I was accountable to. This is the first time in five years I feel like the future is mine for the taking. I realize new relationships don't always work, but I love the outlook right now. It is absolutely amazing how life without dip changes your outlook on the simplest things and turns the really important stuff sacred.
And please forgive my giddiness.
Holy shit! Are you ready for this? Call if needed; this is major.
I think a school girl hijacked his intro.
I was thinking the same thing Diesel.... 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup'
Is it wrong to feel like a school girl? I do. I really do. I'm a fucking mess. Thank you, evil, diesel, and jaynellie for recognizing it. But I'm really fucking happy about it. I can't even sleep. School girls are more manly than I am right now. And yes, Evil, I'm ready. Feels fucking great!!
I am happy for you man, that kind of stuff is rare. however, it is not a reason to miss roll.
First off, the euphoric feeling could be more dangerous than drinking. if there is one thing that makes men do dumber stuff than drugs or alcohol, its early relationship emotions. Enjoy it, but make sure you are protecting your quit just as passionately.
Second, you have thrown a lot at new quitters, particularly a certain caver, about accountability and roll posting. Don't be a hypocrite.
Never, ever let your quit guard down. Before you know it you will be trying to sleep with both women again. Chances are the new lady won't be down with all that.
Damn, you are a buzzkill, J2B. But you are absolutely right, not that you need me to tell you. This was my first two days missing roll, and for that, I am an absolute hypocrite. Thanks for calling me on it.
I think this is a lesson for me, above all else, and I didn't see it until J2B chopped off my knees. Nothing good happens on the outside with a person's quit until they're able to see that it actually has everything and nothing to do with their quit. For everybody else, it's just life, and good stuff happens sometimes. For us, we have to find a way to relate it to quitting. In my case, I spent so much time the past few days ignoring the foundation of my quit that I actually ignored it. That ain't right, boys and girls. Though I was swimming in good shit, I somehow shat upon our daily promise. I'm sorry.
I'm really happy right now, but I owe that happiness to KTC. Sorry I was a hypocrite. Post roll every fucking day. I missed two days, I'm sorry, and J2B speaks the truth. It'll never happen again.
That is Accountability and Humility all in 3 beautifully written and expressed paragraphs....
Good stuff Dlee3, Good stuff indeed.
I'm so happy that you have found that happy place once again in your life..you my friend are definetely deserving of it....
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Guys and gals, I have been MIA for about three days and it has been killing me. I think I posted roll late Wednesday and again a few minutes ago. Unacceptable, I know. Trust me, I know.
I hope you guys will forgive me. I suddenly have a new woman in my life and it happened so fast it threw me for a fucking loop. It's been incredible and I doubt I would have ever found a way to like her more than dip if it weren't for this place. I have actually thought about that a lot over the past few days. I was married and I loved dip more than her. Dip was the only thing I was accountable to. This is the first time in five years I feel like the future is mine for the taking. I realize new relationships don't always work, but I love the outlook right now. It is absolutely amazing how life without dip changes your outlook on the simplest things and turns the really important stuff sacred.
And please forgive my giddiness.
Holy shit! Are you ready for this? Call if needed; this is major.
I think a school girl hijacked his intro.
I was thinking the same thing Diesel.... 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup'
Is it wrong to feel like a school girl? I do. I really do. I'm a fucking mess. Thank you, evil, diesel, and jaynellie for recognizing it. But I'm really fucking happy about it. I can't even sleep. School girls are more manly than I am right now. And yes, Evil, I'm ready. Feels fucking great!!
I am happy for you man, that kind of stuff is rare. however, it is not a reason to miss roll.
First off, the euphoric feeling could be more dangerous than drinking. if there is one thing that makes men do dumber stuff than drugs or alcohol, its early relationship emotions. Enjoy it, but make sure you are protecting your quit just as passionately.
Second, you have thrown a lot at new quitters, particularly a certain caver, about accountability and roll posting. Don't be a hypocrite.
Never, ever let your quit guard down. Before you know it you will be trying to sleep with both women again. Chances are the new lady won't be down with all that.
Damn, you are a buzzkill, J2B. But you are absolutely right, not that you need me to tell you. This was my first two days missing roll, and for that, I am an absolute hypocrite. Thanks for calling me on it.
I think this is a lesson for me, above all else, and I didn't see it until J2B chopped off my knees. Nothing good happens on the outside with a person's quit until they're able to see that it actually has everything and nothing to do with their quit. For everybody else, it's just life, and good stuff happens sometimes. For us, we have to find a way to relate it to quitting. In my case, I spent so much time the past few days ignoring the foundation of my quit that I actually ignored it. That ain't right, boys and girls. Though I was swimming in good shit, I somehow shat upon our daily promise. I'm sorry.
I'm really happy right now, but I owe that happiness to KTC. Sorry I was a hypocrite. Post roll every fucking day. I missed two days, I'm sorry, and J2B speaks the truth. It'll never happen again.
That is Accountability and Humility all in 3 beautifully written and expressed paragraphs....
Good stuff Dlee3, Good stuff indeed.
I'm so happy that you have found that happy place once again in your life..you my friend are definetely deserving of it....
'clap' 'clap'
Happy for you bro. She does no how much of an asshat you are don't she?? 'crackup' Glad to be quit with you anyday of the week.