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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: alwaysdippin on February 19, 2014, 05:47:00 AM
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I have my wallet , truck keys , my lunch box phone and holster. Oh yeah I decided to quit my dip! This is my first morning in a long time ( probably 20 yrs) that within minutes of climbing out of bed I'm not dipping. I actually feel quite lost, as stupid as that may sound. Actually feel like I'm forgetting something. This will be a tough journey with so many "triggers" throughout the day. Here goes one day at a time!
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I have my wallet , truck keys , my lunch box phone and holster. Oh yeah I decided to quit my dip! This is my first morning in a long time ( probably 20 yrs) that within minutes of climbing out of bed I'm not dipping. I actually feel quite lost, as stupid as that may sound. Actually feel like I'm forgetting something. This will be a tough journey with so many "triggers" throughout the day. Here goes one day at a time!
Welcome. For the first time in 20 years your making the decisions. Your deciding how your going to spend the day. The day will truly suck, but at least it's your day and not the poisons. If you haven't, go to welcome center. Learn how and why we post roll. Pay particular attention to why. Let's see if your serious, if you are I'll see your name and promise to walk with me and 1000's of others.
Start reading my friend. There is a lot of valuable information on this site. Information that will help you. I never truly was able to take control of this addiction until i understood it. Knowledge is power. Learn your enemy it knows you.
Water, candy, seeds, gum. 3 days and the poison is out., then it's all mental. You can do this. You know how i know? After 25 years i did. Your no different then me and 1000's of others here. We have your back.
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My two cents:
This site only works if you buy in 100%. No half-assedness. Quit like a motherfucker. Drink gallons of the kool aid round heres. Get numbers and build a support network.
If you need anything, PM me or anyone on heres.
Post roll every day or fuckoff!
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It is a li'l rough for a bit bro. Your addiction controlled your day and you made a habit of listening to it and feeding it any ol' time it needed. I think we all felt a li'l lost at first but y'know what?... That's not lost that you're feeling. It's freedom. You just don't know how to deal with it yet. Le'me tell ya man... Stick with us. It's gets better faster than you would think. You have some rough spots to motor over, no question about that. You messed with your body and mind for years... Healing is gonna take a bit. It's worth it bro. It's very worth it. Welcome to freedom...
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Welcome to the party. It's a rough beginning but you'll make it if you give it your all.
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Post roll first thing, that way you've given your word for today. Don't leave an 'out'.
It gets better, you'll get better.
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I have my wallet , truck keys , my lunch box phone and holster. Oh yeah I decided to quit my dip! This is my first morning in a long time ( probably 20 yrs) that within minutes of climbing out of bed I'm not dipping. I actually feel quite lost, as stupid as that may sound. Actually feel like I'm forgetting something. This will be a tough journey with so many "triggers" throughout the day. Here goes one day at a time!
Read the site. especially on what to expect. Post Roll so that you have a purpose. Uphold your word to your new friends and brothers in Quit. Own your quit, it is yours and yours alone. Drink water and exercise. No nicotine in any form.
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I have my wallet , truck keys , my lunch box phone and holster. Oh yeah I decided to quit my dip! This is my first morning in a long time ( probably 20 yrs) that within minutes of climbing out of bed I'm not dipping. I actually feel quite lost, as stupid as that may sound. Actually feel like I'm forgetting something. This will be a tough journey with so many "triggers" throughout the day. Here goes one day at a time!
Read the site. especially on what to expect. Post Roll so that you have a purpose. Uphold your word to your new friends and brothers in Quit. Own your quit, it is yours and yours alone. Drink water and exercise. No nicotine in any form.
alwaysdippin, just don't forget your balls. You will need those everyday to remain quit. ;Ironman:
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I have my wallet , truck keys , my lunch box phone and holster. Oh yeah I decided to quit my dip! This is my first morning in a long time ( probably 20 yrs) that within minutes of climbing out of bed I'm not dipping. I actually feel quite lost, as stupid as that may sound. Actually feel like I'm forgetting something. This will be a tough journey with so many "triggers" throughout the day. Here goes one day at a time!
Read the site. especially on what to expect. Post Roll so that you have a purpose. Uphold your word to your new friends and brothers in Quit. Own your quit, it is yours and yours alone. Drink water and exercise. No nicotine in any form.
Hey bro... Hopefully you rolled out of the crib wearing your pants. I saw car keys, lunch box, holster, wallet... Quitting can cause fogginess, but I am hopeful you didn't forget them because that could cause some uneasiness with non quitters. One thing I did notice is you forgot to post roll. That is about equal to leaving the house without your pants on. You need to post roll first thing in the am.
Anyhow... Hope to see you back here after work and maybe we can get a roll post. That way we know ur quit.
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So you feel like you forgotten something?
Why'd ya quit?
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I didn't see you post Day 2...?
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I didn't see you post Day 2...?
Maybe he forgot.
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I didn't see you post Day 2...?
Maybe he forgot.
forgot Day 3 so far...
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I didn't see you post Day 2...?
Maybe he forgot.
forgot Day 3 so far...
He forgot to drink the kool aid.
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I didn't see you post Day 2...?
Maybe he forgot.
forgot Day 3 so far...
He forgot to drink the kool aid.
Forgot day 3, forgot to quit...1 whole day then he pussies out. Good bye.
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I didn't see you post Day 2...?
Maybe he forgot.
forgot Day 3 so far...
He forgot to drink the kool aid.
Forgot day 3, forgot to quit...1 whole day then he pussies out. Good bye.
The fat man with a double cheeseburger in his mouth saying, "This is my last Cheesburger; The diet and excercise starts...Monday!"
"This is my last bottle of vodka" that statement made while intoxicated.
The guy in Jail - "I am never going to do heroine again"
Or The guy who stumbles onto KTC with a dip in his lip........ Too bad.
Without taking the step and being accountable, they will never experience the joy of quitting. Poor fucking addict. A servant to his illness.
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I received a pm from a member the other day saying to avoid the triggers that would make me want to dip. All of you have gone through the same things I am going through. How do avoid the biggest trigger of all when it's your job? I can't quit my job. Not making any excuses. I made it two days without dipping. I caved in today. My wife is very supporting of me quitting this habit. Everyone on here needs encouraged to continue staying nicotine free. Looks like I start over.
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I received a pm from a member the other day saying to avoid the triggers that would make me want to dip. All of you have gone through the same things I am going through. How do avoid the biggest trigger of all when it's your job? I can't quit my job. Not making any excuses. I made it two days without dipping. I caved in today. My wife is very supporting of me quitting this habit. Everyone on here needs encouraged to continue staying nicotine free. Looks like I start over.
Day 1 again. There must be something in the air. You say your biggest trigger is your job. My biggest trigger was my eyes being opened. As soon as i brushed my teeth after waking i placed a chew in and all day long i would make preparations for my next and then the next.
If i can post roll and keep my word daily you can damn sure do it. How bad do you want this. There is no magic trigger peel.
Here's something to think about. Quitting is worth a job change. Quitting is worth moving from one country to another. Quitting is worth whatever you got to do to make it happen. That's a fact!! Post roll and keep your word or continue being a slave. That's your choices. You got three questions to answer.
One of your answers should have something to do with reading and learning about the poison. Learn about your addiction.
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I received a pm from a member the other day saying to avoid the triggers that would make me want to dip. All of you have gone through the same things I am going through. How do avoid the biggest trigger of all when it's your job? I can't quit my job. Not making any excuses. I made it two days without dipping. I caved in today. My wife is very supporting of me quitting this habit. Everyone on here needs encouraged to continue staying nicotine free. Looks like I start over.
Day 1 again. There must be something in the air. You say your biggest trigger is your job. My biggest trigger was my eyes being opened. As soon as i brushed my teeth after waking i placed a big was of chew in and all day long i would make preparations for my next and then the next.
If i can post roll and keep my word daily you can damn sure do it. How bad do you want this. There is no magic trigger peel.
Here's something to think about. Quitting is worth a job change. Quitting is worth moving from one country to another. Quitting is worth whatever you got to do to make it happen. That's a fact!! Post roll and keep your word or continue being a slave. That's your choices. You got three questions to answer.
I totally agree with srans. This isn't about finding secret tips on how to withstand cravings. Your brain is screaming at you for its fix. After all its what you gave it over and over and over again. Quitting is all about DESIRE. Real heartfelt, desperate, life or death desire. You have to want to be done with it more than anything else. Wanting to quit, or knowing you should quit isn't enough. Its got to come from deep down.
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I received a pm from a member the other day saying to avoid the triggers that would make me want to dip. All of you have gone through the same things I am going through. How do avoid the biggest trigger of all when it's your job? I can't quit my job. Not making any excuses. I made it two days without dipping. I caved in today. My wife is very supporting of me quitting this habit. Everyone on here needs encouraged to continue staying nicotine free. Looks like I start over.
Day 1 again. There must be something in the air. You say your biggest trigger is your job. My biggest trigger was my eyes being opened. As soon as i brushed my teeth after waking i placed a big was of chew in and all day long i would make preparations for my next and then the next.
If i can post roll and keep my word daily you can damn sure do it. How bad do you want this. There is no magic trigger peel.
Here's something to think about. Quitting is worth a job change. Quitting is worth moving from one country to another. Quitting is worth whatever you got to do to make it happen. That's a fact!! Post roll and keep your word or continue being a slave. That's your choices. You got three questions to answer.
I totally agree with srans. This isn't about finding secret tips on how to withstand cravings. Your brain is screaming at you for its fix. After all its what you gave it over and over and over again. Quitting is all about DESIRE. Real heartfelt, desperate, life of death desire. You have to want to be done with it more than anything else. Wanting to quit, or knowing you should quit isn't enough. Its got to come from deep down.
Post your new day one today. You only posted a Day 1, then you caved. Gotta admire your resolve...not
Answer 3 questions.
What happened?
Why did it happen?
What are you going to do different this time.
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I received a pm from a member the other day saying to avoid the triggers that would make me want to dip. All of you have gone through the same things I am going through. How do avoid the biggest trigger of all when it's your job? I can't quit my job. Not making any excuses. I made it two days without dipping. I caved in today. My wife is very supporting of me quitting this habit. Everyone on here needs encouraged to continue staying nicotine free. Looks like I start over.
Day 1 again. There must be something in the air. You say your biggest trigger is your job. My biggest trigger was my eyes being opened. As soon as i brushed my teeth after waking i placed a big was of chew in and all day long i would make preparations for my next and then the next.
If i can post roll and keep my word daily you can damn sure do it. How bad do you want this. There is no magic trigger peel.
Here's something to think about. Quitting is worth a job change. Quitting is worth moving from one country to another. Quitting is worth whatever you got to do to make it happen. That's a fact!! Post roll and keep your word or continue being a slave. That's your choices. You got three questions to answer.
I totally agree with srans. This isn't about finding secret tips on how to withstand cravings. Your brain is screaming at you for its fix. After all its what you gave it over and over and over again. Quitting is all about DESIRE. Real heartfelt, desperate, life of death desire. You have to want to be done with it more than anything else. Wanting to quit, or knowing you should quit isn't enough. Its got to come from deep down.
Post your new day one today. You only posted a Day 1, then you caved. Gotta admire your resolve...not
Answer 3 questions.
What happened?
Why did it happen?
What are you going to do different this time.
mind shift here needed.....
you have an addiction. that is why you keep throwing nicotine back into your lip and into your system.
if it was a habit, then you would use other items and not poison yourself.
So realize that first, because until you do, history will repeat.
then move into the higher education of yourself with those 3 questions. Do not take them lightly. really think about them and write them down.
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I received a pm from a member the other day saying to avoid the triggers that would make me want to dip. All of you have gone through the same things I am going through. How do avoid the biggest trigger of all when it's your job? I can't quit my job. Not making any excuses. I made it two days without dipping. I caved in today. My wife is very supporting of me quitting this habit. Everyone on here needs encouraged to continue staying nicotine free. Looks like I start over.
My biggest trigger was my job as well. There is no secret on beating that trigger. I'm sorry.
However, I am 627 days quit and still have the same job.
How did I do it? I went to work and said, "fuck it. I can do this job TODAY without dip. I'm not gonna worry about tomorrow, next week, next month, or my next road trip. Just today"
So that's what I did. I posted role every morning, went to work with that same montra, built a support network here and believed things would get easier/better...and they did.
It wasn't always easy, in fact it was hard as FUCK and my work did suffer a bit at the beginning, but after awhile you start to get into a groove and build confidence. Once you get there and realize it CAN be done you wonder why you though it was so hard to begin with.
If you REALLY want to quit you will take your fucking ass to work, man the fuck up one god damn day at a time, and get shit done.
If you only want to half ass quit and are going to cave like a little bitch when the going gets tough, then get used to the idea of living a life of continued slavery, cancer, no tongue, half a jaw, and a empty wallet. That's if you don't fucking die first.
Take your hands, put them down the front of your pants, grab those two round things we call BALLS and MAN THE FUCK UP.
We are here to help. You don't have to do it alone, nor do I recommend it. The playbook has been written, all you have to do is follow it. You need anything, hit me up at anytime. I'm here for you and so are 100's if not 1,000's more. Use us.
If that's too much, then kindly fuck off.
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I received a pm from a member the other day saying to avoid the triggers that would make me want to dip. All of you have gone through the same things I am going through. How do avoid the biggest trigger of all when it's your job? I can't quit my job. Not making any excuses. I made it two days without dipping. I caved in today. My wife is very supporting of me quitting this habit. Everyone on here needs encouraged to continue staying nicotine free. Looks like I start over.
Day 1 again. There must be something in the air. You say your biggest trigger is your job. My biggest trigger was my eyes being opened. As soon as i brushed my teeth after waking i placed a big was of chew in and all day long i would make preparations for my next and then the next.
If i can post roll and keep my word daily you can damn sure do it. How bad do you want this. There is no magic trigger peel.
Here's something to think about. Quitting is worth a job change. Quitting is worth moving from one country to another. Quitting is worth whatever you got to do to make it happen. That's a fact!! Post roll and keep your word or continue being a slave. That's your choices. You got three questions to answer.
I totally agree with srans. This isn't about finding secret tips on how to withstand cravings. Your brain is screaming at you for its fix. After all its what you gave it over and over and over again. Quitting is all about DESIRE. Real heartfelt, desperate, life of death desire. You have to want to be done with it more than anything else. Wanting to quit, or knowing you should quit isn't enough. Its got to come from deep down.
Post your new day one today. You only posted a Day 1, then you caved. Gotta admire your resolve...not
Answer 3 questions.
What happened?
Why did it happen?
What are you going to do different this time.
mind shift here needed.....
you have an addiction. that is why you keep throwing nicotine back into your lip and into your system.
if it was a habit, then you would use other items and not poison yourself.
So realize that first, because until you do, history will repeat.
then move into the higher education of yourself with those 3 questions. Do not take them lightly. really think about them and write them down.
Either you want to quit or you don't. No one here can help you if you don't want to quit. You have to be the one to keep the dog shit out of your mouth. Are you a man or a monkey?
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I received a pm from a member the other day saying to avoid the triggers that would make me want to dip. All of you have gone through the same things I am going through. How do avoid the biggest trigger of all when it's your job? I can't quit my job. Not making any excuses. I made it two days without dipping. I caved in today. My wife is very supporting of me quitting this habit. Everyone on here needs encouraged to continue staying nicotine free. Looks like I start over.
Day 1 again. There must be something in the air. You say your biggest trigger is your job. My biggest trigger was my eyes being opened. As soon as i brushed my teeth after waking i placed a big was of chew in and all day long i would make preparations for my next and then the next.
If i can post roll and keep my word daily you can damn sure do it. How bad do you want this. There is no magic trigger peel.
Here's something to think about. Quitting is worth a job change. Quitting is worth moving from one country to another. Quitting is worth whatever you got to do to make it happen. That's a fact!! Post roll and keep your word or continue being a slave. That's your choices. You got three questions to answer.
I totally agree with srans. This isn't about finding secret tips on how to withstand cravings. Your brain is screaming at you for its fix. After all its what you gave it over and over and over again. Quitting is all about DESIRE. Real heartfelt, desperate, life of death desire. You have to want to be done with it more than anything else. Wanting to quit, or knowing you should quit isn't enough. Its got to come from deep down.
Post your new day one today. You only posted a Day 1, then you caved. Gotta admire your resolve...not
Answer 3 questions.
What happened?
Why did it happen?
What are you going to do different this time.
mind shift here needed.....
you have an addiction. that is why you keep throwing nicotine back into your lip and into your system.
if it was a habit, then you would use other items and not poison yourself.
So realize that first, because until you do, history will repeat.
then move into the higher education of yourself with those 3 questions. Do not take them lightly. really think about them and write them down.
How do you avoid a trigger?
You don't.
You avoid putting yourself in a situation that can lead to failure. You can be proactive in your quit. But life fucking happens man. There's shitty things we have to face, and quitting is not in a vacuum. I fucking chewed every moment I was awake, and say at a comp all day with it in. I found other things to do. I fucking lost my friend in the first week, and I found a way to stay quit.
The point is that you are in control of your actions. Your work, your life...no. Those things happen. How you react is your responsibility.
Answer the 3 questions, and fucking move forward. Never again for any reason.
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I received a pm from a member the other day saying to avoid the triggers that would make me want to dip. All of you have gone through the same things I am going through. How do avoid the biggest trigger of all when it's your job? I can't quit my job. Not making any excuses. I made it two days without dipping. I caved in today. My wife is very supporting of me quitting this habit. Everyone on here needs encouraged to continue staying nicotine free. Looks like I start over.
Day 1 again. There must be something in the air. You say your biggest trigger is your job. My biggest trigger was my eyes being opened. As soon as i brushed my teeth after waking i placed a big was of chew in and all day long i would make preparations for my next and then the next.
If i can post roll and keep my word daily you can damn sure do it. How bad do you want this. There is no magic trigger peel.
Here's something to think about. Quitting is worth a job change. Quitting is worth moving from one country to another. Quitting is worth whatever you got to do to make it happen. That's a fact!! Post roll and keep your word or continue being a slave. That's your choices. You got three questions to answer.
I totally agree with srans. This isn't about finding secret tips on how to withstand cravings. Your brain is screaming at you for its fix. After all its what you gave it over and over and over again. Quitting is all about DESIRE. Real heartfelt, desperate, life of death desire. You have to want to be done with it more than anything else. Wanting to quit, or knowing you should quit isn't enough. Its got to come from deep down.
Post your new day one today. You only posted a Day 1, then you caved. Gotta admire your resolve...not
Answer 3 questions.
What happened?
Why did it happen?
What are you going to do different this time.
mind shift here needed.....
you have an addiction. that is why you keep throwing nicotine back into your lip and into your system.
if it was a habit, then you would use other items and not poison yourself.
So realize that first, because until you do, history will repeat.
then move into the higher education of yourself with those 3 questions. Do not take them lightly. really think about them and write them down.
Either you want to quit or you don't. No one here can help you if you don't want to quit. You have to be the one to keep the dog shit out of your mouth. Are you a man or a monkey?
Answer the 3 questions. Keep this in mind... Your odds of getting help from us hinges on you remaining engaged with us. You came here the other day... Disappeared with your holster and car keys out the door ... Then show up today and tell us you stuffed your face full of dip. Then ask us about triggers.
Quitting here requires you to communicate with us. Then we communicate back. Drive by quitters fail. Show us you want it and stay with us... We are here to help. With that, Your odds increase exponentially.
No magic potion as others said. My biggest craves centered around stressful situations. I still have stressful situations but I now deal with them without dipping.
You can do this. But you have to want it. Right now you are not all in here.
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Just like everybody else has said, I used to think I couldn't get through a meeting without a lipped. Well, lo fucking behold, it turns out not only can I make through meetings, I can solve all kinds of problems without simultaneously killing myself.
Here's how you do this:
1. Grow a pair of balls.
2. Slam em in a goddamn drawer whenever you run into a trigger.
3. No more craves.
And post roll every fucking day.
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Just like everybody else has said, I used to think I couldn't get through a meeting without a lipped. Well, lo fucking behold, it turns out not only can I make through meetings, I can solve all kinds of problems without simultaneously killing myself.
Here's how you do this:
1. Grow a pair of balls.
2. Slam em in a goddamn drawer whenever you run into a trigger.
3. No more craves.
And post roll every fucking day.
Bingo!!!
sometimes you might need to slam them twice because the first time feels so good......
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I'm pretty sure you don't dip for a living unless you work for skoal as a dip taste tester, or some other line of work as a professional dipper. We were all talented enough to be professional dippers, but in reality we didn't get paid to dip, we paid to dip. With that being said, would it be safe to surmise that you don't need to quit your job to quit dipping? Yes? Good. Would it also be safe to say that the following is the addict talking, "How do avoid the biggest trigger of all when it's your job? I can't quit my job."? Yes again? Good, 2 fer 2.
Now, step 1 is to realize that you can do your job just as effectively without a dip in your mouth. I'll also wager that once the shit is out of your system you'll actually do your job better than you did with the dip in your mouth. These sound like simple revelations but when that fog lifts and you see yourself from the outside looking in, it's pretty pathetic. At least it was for me, and I'm a much happier person knowing that I don't dip, and I can do all the shit I used to do only while dippingÂ…better.
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Just like everybody else has said, I used to think I couldn't get through a meeting without a lipped. Well, lo fucking behold, it turns out not only can I make through meetings, I can solve all kinds of problems without simultaneously killing myself.
Here's how you do this:
1. Grow a pair of balls.
2. Slam em in a goddamn drawer whenever you run into a trigger.
3. No more craves.
And post roll every fucking day.
Bingo!!!
sometimes you might need to slam them twice because the first time feels so good......
This is one of the greatest crave killers of all time! I just gave the same advice on another post. I love it when great quitters think alike!
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Day 1. How do I get to roll call from an android device?
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No chew saturday 'finger point'
The good news, you not only posted roll on the message board but you also posted in the May group. On the flip side, WTF is this:
alwaysdipin- day ? No chew saturday
Did you dip yesterday? Did you cave again yesterday? Is today your second consecutive Day 1?
I'm not going to berate you if today is day 1 again, you came clean yesterday that you caved and sought out advice. But if today is Day 1 or Day 2, then own that number man. Be quit for that day, chalk up the win, and go for a +1 day tomorrow. But know your number. If I can narrow it down to day 1 or day 2 for you, I'm sure you can figure out which one it is depending if you had a dip yesterday or not.
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No chew saturday 'finger point'
The good news, you not only posted roll on the message board but you also posted in the May group. On the flip side, WTF is this:
alwaysdipin- day ? No chew saturday
Did you dip yesterday? Did you cave again yesterday? Is today your second consecutive Day 1?
I'm not going to berate you if today is day 1 again, you came clean yesterday that you caved and sought out advice. But if today is Day 1 or Day 2, then own that number man. Be quit for that day, chalk up the win, and go for a +1 day tomorrow. But know your number. If I can narrow it down to day 1 or day 2 for you, I'm sure you can figure out which one it is depending if you had a dip yesterday or not.
Steak is right, post your quit day. It helps not only you, but others keep you accountable.
Winter Green - 83
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alwaysdipin- day ? No chew saturday
What exactly does this ^^^^^ mean?
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alwaysdipin- day ? No chew saturday
What exactly does this ^^^^^ mean?
It means we have a quitter (as he as edited it to day 1)
Always....What's your plan to stay quit today?
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alwaysdipin- day ? No chew saturday
What exactly does this ^^^^^ mean?
It means we have a quitter (as he as edited it to day 1)
Always....What's your plan to stay quit today?
Did you answer the 3 questions?
What happened.
why did it happen?
What are you gonna do different?
Stay quit today.
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Day 1. How do I get to roll call from an android device?
Alwaysdippin. I post role from my iPhone. To get instructions on your android, go to the Welcome Center and look for how to post role. I dug around and actually found a video on how to do it. I'm not a tech guy and I am still learning some of this stuff. Keep quitting. It took me lurking around in KTC for a while before I decided to finally commit. The first 7 days were the worst
Mtnriverdog
Day 1. How do I get to roll call from an android device?
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Day 1. How do I get to roll call from an android device?
Alwaysdippin. I post role from my iPhone. To get instructions on your android, go to the Welcome Center and look for how to post role. I dug around and actually found a video on how to do it. I'm not a tech guy and I am still learning some of this stuff. Keep quitting. It took me lurking around in KTC for a while before I decided to finally commit. The first 7 days were the worst
Mtnriverdog
Day 1. How do I get to roll call from an android device?
How to post roll
index.php?showtopic=50 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50)
Fix your roll, add the # day.
Answer the 3 questions.
All you've posted in 5 days is 2 Day 1's. Are you here to quit or fuck around?
If you're here to quit, I've got your back. If you just want to try, don't waste my time.
If you're on Day 1 today, then you need to post in June.
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Is that all the effort your going to put into your quit? maybe you should take a look in the mirror and ask yourself if you even want to quit.
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alwaysdipin- day ? No chew saturday
What exactly does this ^^^^^ mean?
It means we have a quitter (as he as edited it to day 1)
Always....What's your plan to stay quit today?
Did you answer the 3 questions?
What happened.
why did it happen?
What are you gonna do different?
Stay quit today.
What happened to me friday the 21st? I let my job get to me.
Why did "it" happen? If "it" means why did I stop and buy a can of grizzly . Chewing was my way of coping with the stress of everyday life struggles.
What am I going to do different? Today I got through without the overwhelming urge for a chew. It is a process of retraining my brain to deal with stress differently.everyday is a different day with different challenges thrown my way and i have to man up and deal with each struggle independently.
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alwaysdipin- day ? No chew saturday
What exactly does this ^^^^^ mean?
It means we have a quitter (as he as edited it to day 1)
Always....What's your plan to stay quit today?
Did you answer the 3 questions?
What happened.
why did it happen?
What are you gonna do different?
Stay quit today.
What happened to me friday the 21st? I let my job get to me.
Why did "it" happen? If "it" means why did I stop and buy a can of grizzly . Chewing was my way of coping with the stress of everyday life struggles.
What am I going to do different? Today I got through without the overwhelming urge for a chew. It is a process of retraining my brain to deal with stress differently.everyday is a different day with different challenges thrown my way and i have to man up and deal with each struggle independently.
So what are you going to do the next time you have the shittiest day at work you've ever had, then on the way home you get a speeding ticket, then when you get home you find a window knocked out from a neighborhood baseball game. And dog shit in the carpet. When you get completely overwhelmed with stressful struggles??? What are you going to different is the question? Quitting isn't about staying quit on good days and dipping on bad ones. You have to regain control of your life man. No more stupid excuses, grow a pair and quit.
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I can remember growing up my dad always dipping Copenhagen straight fine cut, but never around my mom. I was 12 when I started chewing skoal winter green..way back in 1980. I lived in Houston Texas. I was walking to my friends house with a chew in when my dad pulled up next to me in his car. I was busted and waiting for a lecture about how bad of a habit tobacco is. Instead my dad says if you to spit roll the window down and dont get any on my car....oh yeah dont let your mom know you dip. I'm 45 years old now with 4 kids. Married 4 26 years .I have one son who is a year old march 6th.like father like son my wife never new I chewed for 21 years of our marriage. I finally told her. I want to lead by example for my little boy and not be the example my dad was for me. My dad quit chewing in 1995. I want to follow his example again only this time in a positive way. My dad has been on me for 19 years to quit. I've learned that a person will quit when they feel like quitting and not pleasing someone else. I dont mean to ramble on about the past but theresvalot to be learned from ones history.
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alwaysdipin- day ? No chew saturday
What exactly does this ^^^^^ mean?
It means we have a quitter (as he as edited it to day 1)
Always....What's your plan to stay quit today?
Did you answer the 3 questions?
What happened.
why did it happen?
What are you gonna do different?
Stay quit today.
What happened to me friday the 21st? I let my job get to me.
Why did "it" happen? If "it" means why did I stop and buy a can of grizzly . Chewing was my way of coping with the stress of everyday life struggles.
What am I going to do different? Today I got through without the overwhelming urge for a chew. It is a process of retraining my brain to deal with stress differently.everyday is a different day with different challenges thrown my way and i have to man up and deal with each struggle independently.
So what are you going to do the next time you have the shittiest day at work you've ever had, then on the way home you get a speeding ticket, then when you get home you find a window knocked out from a neighborhood baseball game. And dog shit in the carpet. When you get completely overwhelmed with stressful struggles??? What are you going to different is the question? Quitting isn't about staying quit on good days and dipping on bad ones. You have to regain control of your life man. No more stupid excuses, grow a pair and quit.
Coming home to all of that would nothing compared to my daily stress. As a matter of fact I would welcome that menial headache.here's my list of triggers ( not excuses).
1. I lost $132000 to a crooked home builder
2. I own nothing. The I.r.s. owns everything until I can pay them back the 70,000 i owe in back taxes.
3. I owe over 15000 in medical bills for my little boy almost dying july10 th13.
4. I owe the state over 7000 in back taxes as well.
5. In the warmer times of the year I put in over 90 hour work weeks just to catch up from winter slow times.
Yeah dude ill take shit on my carpet a broken window and a speeding ticket any day of the week. I can clean up Dog shit,fix my own window and pay for a ticket. Those menial little bumps in the road are shit. You ever come home from expecting to find your house and everything you've worked for repossed by the government? I do every day of the week! To be perfectly clear with all of you on here trying to bust my chops ....dont. congrats to everyone on here that has never cavedin to this addiction after your quit. Not everyone has the will power to do that. Im extremely honest and will take responsibility for my actions.you want to wear my shoes ill mail them to you!
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I can remember growing up my dad always dipping Copenhagen straight fine cut, but never around my mom. I was 12 when I started chewing skoal winter green..way back in 1980. I lived in Houston Texas. I was walking to my friends house with a chew in when my dad pulled up next to me in his car. I was busted and waiting for a lecture about how bad of a habit tobacco is. Instead my dad says if you to spit roll the window down and dont get any on my car....oh yeah dont let your mom know you dip. I'm 45 years old now with 4 kids. Married 4 26 years .I have one son who is a year old march 6th.like father like son my wife never new I chewed for 21 years of our marriage. I finally told her. I want to lead by example for my little boy and not be the example my dad was for me. My dad quit chewing in 1995. I want to follow his example again only this time in a positive way. My dad has been on me for 19 years to quit. I've learned that a person will quit when they feel like quitting and not pleasing someone else. I dont mean to ramble on about the past but theresvalot to be learned from ones history.
Hey brotha, your right, when it hits you it hits you and it's time to quit. And bro, you are in the right place to quit. I'm 48, Texan as well, raised by smoking parents, and started dipping in elementary school. Hell, I am only half kidding around when I talk about my first job. It was riding around picking up coke bottles and going to the convenience store and turning them in for cash and buying Happy Days snuff. Back ing the 70's they only carded for alcohol. Lol. Not tobacco. I'm actually still amazed that they would sell tobacco to to a kid in elementary school. Well, point is, I have never even been able to slow down dipping until a friend told me about KTC and I came here and took the hardest step, Day 1. I had actually given up on being able to quit. But today is 182 days and I tell ya, I never thought it could be this good. It's awesome. Trust yourself to KTC philosophy and you will do fine. At night, turn off the tv and spend your time here. Read all that you can. Everything. Get on chat. Give your phone number to quit buddies. Take every number given to you and start building relationships here. I'll give you your first tool for Quitn. ODAAT. One day at a time. Quittn forever is too big to tackle. Just quit one day at a time. You got this. Click on my name and send me a pm. I'll quit with ya bro.
Gdubya - 182
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alwaysdipin- day ? No chew saturday
What exactly does this ^^^^^ mean?
It means we have a quitter (as he as edited it to day 1)
Always....What's your plan to stay quit today?
Did you answer the 3 questions?
What happened.
why did it happen?
What are you gonna do different?
Stay quit today.
What happened to me friday the 21st? I let my job get to me.
Why did "it" happen? If "it" means why did I stop and buy a can of grizzly . Chewing was my way of coping with the stress of everyday life struggles.
What am I going to do different? Today I got through without the overwhelming urge for a chew. It is a process of retraining my brain to deal with stress differently.everyday is a different day with different challenges thrown my way and i have to man up and deal with each struggle independently.
So what are you going to do the next time you have the shittiest day at work you've ever had, then on the way home you get a speeding ticket, then when you get home you find a window knocked out from a neighborhood baseball game. And dog shit in the carpet. When you get completely overwhelmed with stressful struggles??? What are you going to different is the question? Quitting isn't about staying quit on good days and dipping on bad ones. You have to regain control of your life man. No more stupid excuses, grow a pair and quit.
Coming home to all of that would nothing compared to my daily stress. As a matter of fact I would welcome that menial headache.here's my list of triggers ( not excuses).
1. I lost $132000 to a crooked home builder
2. I own nothing. The I.r.s. owns everything until I can pay them back the 70,000 i owe in back taxes.
3. I owe over 15000 in medical bills for my little boy almost dying july10 th13.
4. I owe the state over 7000 in back taxes as well.
5. In the warmer times of the year I put in over 90 hour work weeks just to catch up from winter slow times.
Yeah dude ill take shit on my carpet a broken window and a speeding ticket any day of the week. I can clean up Dog shit,fix my own window and pay for a ticket. Those menial little bumps in the road are shit. You ever come home from expecting to find your house and everything you've worked for repossed by the government? I do every day of the week! To be perfectly clear with all of you on here trying to bust my chops ....dont. congrats to everyone on here that has never cavedin to this addiction after your quit. Not everyone has the will power to do that. Im extremely honest and will take responsibility for my actions.you want to wear my shoes ill mail them to you!
I hate to sound intensive, but dude, none of that stuff matters. I think what WG is trying to say is that NONE of the shit going on in your life was made better by:
spending time away from your work/family to run to the store, to purchase with money you don't have, a product that is formulated specifically to ensure that you.... spend time away from your work/family to run to the store, to purchase with money you don't have, in order to buy a product that is formulated specifically ensure that........you see the cycle you are in? Break that cycle man. Quitting nicotine doesn't mean life turns into an episode of Leave it to Beaver. But quitting nicotine does solve one of your many problems. Hang in there man, answer those questions, 'cause they will do you some good.
BTW, if you still believe nicotine helps you to deal with those issues, say so. It's a good discussion topic, and it's critical that you understand how nicotine actually "eases your stress." (When I first quit, I had no clue.)
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alwaysdipin- day ? No chew saturday
What exactly does this ^^^^^ mean?
It means we have a quitter (as he as edited it to day 1)
Always....What's your plan to stay quit today?
Did you answer the 3 questions?
What happened.
why did it happen?
What are you gonna do different?
Stay quit today.
What happened to me friday the 21st? I let my job get to me.
Why did "it" happen? If "it" means why did I stop and buy a can of grizzly . Chewing was my way of coping with the stress of everyday life struggles.
What am I going to do different? Today I got through without the overwhelming urge for a chew. It is a process of retraining my brain to deal with stress differently.everyday is a different day with different challenges thrown my way and i have to man up and deal with each struggle independently.
So what are you going to do the next time you have the shittiest day at work you've ever had, then on the way home you get a speeding ticket, then when you get home you find a window knocked out from a neighborhood baseball game. And dog shit in the carpet. When you get completely overwhelmed with stressful struggles??? What are you going to different is the question? Quitting isn't about staying quit on good days and dipping on bad ones. You have to regain control of your life man. No more stupid excuses, grow a pair and quit.
Coming home to all of that would nothing compared to my daily stress. As a matter of fact I would welcome that menial headache.here's my list of triggers ( not excuses).
1. I lost $132000 to a crooked home builder
2. I own nothing. The I.r.s. owns everything until I can pay them back the 70,000 i owe in back taxes.
3. I owe over 15000 in medical bills for my little boy almost dying july10 th13.
4. I owe the state over 7000 in back taxes as well.
5. In the warmer times of the year I put in over 90 hour work weeks just to catch up from winter slow times.
Yeah dude ill take shit on my carpet a broken window and a speeding ticket any day of the week. I can clean up Dog shit,fix my own window and pay for a ticket. Those menial little bumps in the road are shit. You ever come home from expecting to find your house and everything you've worked for repossed by the government? I do every day of the week! To be perfectly clear with all of you on here trying to bust my chops ....dont. congrats to everyone on here that has never cavedin to this addiction after your quit. Not everyone has the will power to do that. Im extremely honest and will take responsibility for my actions.you want to wear my shoes ill mail them to you!
I hate to sound intensive, but dude, none of that stuff matters. I think what WG is trying to say is that NONE of the shit going on in your life was made better by:
spending time away from your work/family to run to the store, to purchase with money you don't have, a product that is formulated specifically to ensure that you.... spend time away from your work/family to run to the store, to purchase with money you don't have, in order to buy a product that is formulated specifically ensure that........you see the cycle you are in? Break that cycle man. Quitting nicotine doesn't mean life turns into an episode of Leave it to Beaver. But quitting nicotine does solve one of your many problems. Hang in there man, answer those questions, 'cause they will do you some good.
BTW, if you still believe nicotine helps you to deal with those issues, say so. It's a good discussion topic, and it's critical that you understand how nicotine actually "eases your stress." (When I first quit, I had no clue.)
I dont use what if ..... to judge how I react to a situation. Scenarios are a waste of time because they never end. I answered the three questions the best that I can in the first step of my journey im not going to give anyone an answer they want to hear or fits their ideas of what they think my answer should be. Ask me the questions in thirty days and I'll give a more educated response based on the journey taken to that point.
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I can remember growing up my dad always dipping Copenhagen straight fine cut, but never around my mom. I was 12 when I started chewing skoal winter green..way back in 1980. I lived in Houston Texas. I was walking to my friends house with a chew in when my dad pulled up next to me in his car. I was busted and waiting for a lecture about how bad of a habit tobacco is. Instead my dad says if you to spit roll the window down and dont get any on my car....oh yeah dont let your mom know you dip. I'm 45 years old now with 4 kids. Married 4 26 years .I have one son who is a year old march 6th.like father like son my wife never new I chewed for 21 years of our marriage. I finally told her. I want to lead by example for my little boy and not be the example my dad was for me. My dad quit chewing in 1995. I want to follow his example again only this time in a positive way. My dad has been on me for 19 years to quit. I've learned that a person will quit when they feel like quitting and not pleasing someone else. I dont mean to ramble on about the past but theresvalot to be learned from ones history.
Hey brotha, your right, when it hits you it hits you and it's time to quit. And bro, you are in the right place to quit. I'm 48, Texan as well, raised by smoking parents, and started dipping in elementary school. Hell, I am only half kidding around when I talk about my first job. It was riding around picking up coke bottles and going to the convenience store and turning them in for cash and buying Happy Days snuff. Back ing the 70's they only carded for alcohol. Lol. Not tobacco. I'm actually still amazed that they would sell tobacco to to a kid in elementary school. Well, point is, I have never even been able to slow down dipping until a friend told me about KTC and I came here and took the hardest step, Day 1. I had actually given up on being able to quit. But today is 182 days and I tell ya, I never thought it could be this good. It's awesome. Trust yourself to KTC philosophy and you will do fine. At night, turn off the tv and spend your time here. Read all that you can. Everything. Get on chat. Give your phone number to quit buddies. Take every number given to you and start building relationships here. I'll give you your first tool for Quitn. ODAAT. One day at a time. Quittn forever is too big to tackle. Just quit one day at a time. You got this. Click on my name and send me a pm. I'll quit with ya bro.
Gdubya - 182
Great mindset! Read everything here. So much knowledge here... Follow the plan it works. Use that time to quit feeling wisely as it does not last forever. Get active on KTC and get your plan together. PM me if you need anything.
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alwaysdipin- day ? No chew saturday
What exactly does this ^^^^^ mean?
It means we have a quitter (as he as edited it to day 1)
Always....What's your plan to stay quit today?
Did you answer the 3 questions?
What happened.
why did it happen?
What are you gonna do different?
Stay quit today.
What happened to me friday the 21st? I let my job get to me.
Why did "it" happen? If "it" means why did I stop and buy a can of grizzly . Chewing was my way of coping with the stress of everyday life struggles.
What am I going to do different? Today I got through without the overwhelming urge for a chew. It is a process of retraining my brain to deal with stress differently.everyday is a different day with different challenges thrown my way and i have to man up and deal with each struggle independently.
So what are you going to do the next time you have the shittiest day at work you've ever had, then on the way home you get a speeding ticket, then when you get home you find a window knocked out from a neighborhood baseball game. And dog shit in the carpet. When you get completely overwhelmed with stressful struggles??? What are you going to different is the question? Quitting isn't about staying quit on good days and dipping on bad ones. You have to regain control of your life man. No more stupid excuses, grow a pair and quit.
Coming home to all of that would nothing compared to my daily stress. As a matter of fact I would welcome that menial headache.here's my list of triggers ( not excuses).
1. I lost $132000 to a crooked home builder
2. I own nothing. The I.r.s. owns everything until I can pay them back the 70,000 i owe in back taxes.
3. I owe over 15000 in medical bills for my little boy almost dying july10 th13.
4. I owe the state over 7000 in back taxes as well.
5. In the warmer times of the year I put in over 90 hour work weeks just to catch up from winter slow times.
Yeah dude ill take shit on my carpet a broken window and a speeding ticket any day of the week. I can clean up Dog shit,fix my own window and pay for a ticket. Those menial little bumps in the road are shit. You ever come home from expecting to find your house and everything you've worked for repossed by the government? I do every day of the week! To be perfectly clear with all of you on here trying to bust my chops ....dont. congrats to everyone on here that has never cavedin to this addiction after your quit. Not everyone has the will power to do that. Im extremely honest and will take responsibility for my actions.you want to wear my shoes ill mail them to you!
I hate to sound intensive, but dude, none of that stuff matters. I think what WG is trying to say is that NONE of the shit going on in your life was made better by:
spending time away from your work/family to run to the store, to purchase with money you don't have, a product that is formulated specifically to ensure that you.... spend time away from your work/family to run to the store, to purchase with money you don't have, in order to buy a product that is formulated specifically ensure that........you see the cycle you are in? Break that cycle man. Quitting nicotine doesn't mean life turns into an episode of Leave it to Beaver. But quitting nicotine does solve one of your many problems. Hang in there man, answer those questions, 'cause they will do you some good.
BTW, if you still believe nicotine helps you to deal with those issues, say so. It's a good discussion topic, and it's critical that you understand how nicotine actually "eases your stress." (When I first quit, I had no clue.)
I dont use what if ..... to judge how I react to a situation. Scenarios are a waste of time because they never end. I answered the three questions the best that I can in the first step of my journey im not going to give anyone an answer they want to hear or fits their ideas of what they think my answer should be. Ask me the questions in thirty days and I'll give a more educated response based on the journey taken to that point.
I don't care what you'll do in 30 days.
What's your plan today?
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This is good stuff man... Keep these posts limited to the previous intro you started. It's easier to track your quit journey with all of it in one spot.
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im not giving you a response you want .I already answered all three of the rhetorical questions asked of me.you dont care about 30 days? 30 days gives me 29 more days of quitting experience than my day one which makes me better equipped for the nuances of my journey. Like I said yesterday, my day one, ask me in thirty days
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im not giving you a response you want .I already answered all three of the rhetorical questions asked of me.you dont care about 30 days? 30 days gives me 29 more days of quitting experience than my day one which makes me better equipped for the nuances of my journey. Like I said yesterday, my day one, ask me in thirty days
Somebody here smarter than me made it simple.....
1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems
That shit doesn't help or solve anything. You can do this....fight for your freedom!
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im not giving you a response you want .I already answered all three of the rhetorical questions asked of me.you dont care about 30 days? 30 days gives me 29 more days of quitting experience than my day one which makes me better equipped for the nuances of my journey. Like I said yesterday, my day one, ask me in thirty days
You like to fight.
I like that.
But, dude, you are picking the fight with friends instead of our enemy.
First of all, the three questions are not "rhetorical". "Rhetorical" questions are asked with the intention of not soliciting an answer. We want answers because we want to help you be quit.
Stop. Listen for one second. (Your quotes appear below and my responses are in italics.)
(1) What happened to me friday the 21st? I let my job get to me. Ummm...How did you get the chew you used? Did you stop and buy some? Did you bum one off of a friend? Did you lick that wad in the urinal at lunch hoping there was some nicotine left in after 40 guys pissed all over it? Did you still have a can in coat? What were specific actions to cave?
What you have offered ("I let my job get to me.") explains nothing.
(2) Why did "it" happen? If "it" means why did I stop and buy a can of grizzly? Chewing was my way of coping with the stress of everyday life struggles. OK..so you bought a can of chew. I'm really glad. That urinal thing was kinda gross as I typed it and I was hoping that was not the right answer. Whew...
Although I abhor the rest of what you have written here, I love the one word you wrote: WAS. Chewing was a way of coping for you. You used it to escape into a nicotine buzz for a momentary piece of ectasy. The problem is that every chew you take is less of a buzz, and as an addict, you spend the rest of the time searching for that high again. It's kind of pathetic when you think about it. You were willing to sacrifice your time, money, and body to a cancerous weed, but...
You made the decision to quit. Why?
Surely, using is not all rainbows and cupcakes.
Did that one can you stopped and bought fix all of life's problems? And, if it did, why are you quitting the magical elixir?
Why did you decide to quit? Why was it so difficult that you couldn't even make it one day? Why didn't you reach out to anybody on this board and ask for help? Why do you think that you are the only quitter here that used nicotine to cope? Are you a special butterfly?
(Those are all rhetorical questions. You need to answer the "Why did it happen?" question still.)
(3) What am I going to do different? Today I got through without the overwhelming urge for a chew. It is a process of retraining my brain to deal with stress differently.everyday is a different day with different challenges thrown my way and i have to man up and deal with each struggle independently. Once you realize the answer to this answer, you're going to kick yourself.
YOU ARE NOT ALONE IN THIS QUIT.
I don't know if you remember the show Seinfeld, but it had this one scene where he tried to rent a car. He had made a reservation, but the car company didn't have anything left. The lady working the counter told him that she knew what a reservation was, and he responded "I don't think you do. You see....anybody can take a reservation. It's the holding part that's really important." (in a much more comedic tone)
Anybody can promise not to use nicotine, but only a quitter knows how to hold that promise. This board is built on trust and brotherhood: I trust that you won't use once you sign your name to roll call, and I will do anything in my power to help you stay quit today. I don't know shit about you, but I'm willing to go into this battle with you no questions asked.
Your day (whether it is day 1 or day 30 or day 1000) begins with a promise to yourself to stay quit. You back up this action by posting that promise here and we promise to hold you accountable. Then, you reach out whenever you are in need. We deal with huge amounts of quitters every day. Some days are easy. Some days are hard. When times are good, we practice for the bad. When times are bad, we lean on what we've learned.
We ask that you answer these 3 questions (not for us), but for you. Quitting here isn't about flailing your arms and being a leaf in the wind. Nah. Quitting here is about saying you want to be quit, planning to be quit, and understanding why you have failed in the past. The future will take care of itself if you understand the answer to these 3 questions. As I've said in the past, the KTC can be your biggest, baddest weapon in this battle...but it's up to YOU to pull the trigger.
So, back to your original post....
I could give a flying fuck about 30 days from now because it has no bearing on today. Did you post roll today? Good. Back that shit up, and do everything in your power to stay quit today. If that's too long, worry about this hour, minute, or even second.
We have such pleasures to show you...
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I can remember growing up my dad always dipping Copenhagen straight fine cut, but never around my mom. I was 12 when I started chewing skoal winter green..way back in 1980. I lived in Houston Texas. I was walking to my friends house with a chew in when my dad pulled up next to me in his car. I was busted and waiting for a lecture about how bad of a habit tobacco is. Instead my dad says if you to spit roll the window down and dont get any on my car....oh yeah dont let your mom know you dip. I'm 45 years old now with 4 kids. Married 4 26 years .I have one son who is a year old march 6th.like father like son my wife never new I chewed for 21 years of our marriage. I finally told her. I want to lead by example for my little boy and not be the example my dad was for me. My dad quit chewing in 1995. I want to follow his example again only this time in a positive way. My dad has been on me for 19 years to quit. I've learned that a person will quit when they feel like quitting and not pleasing someone else. I dont mean to ramble on about the past but theresvalot to be learned from ones history.
Hey brotha, your right, when it hits you it hits you and it's time to quit. And bro, you are in the right place to quit. I'm 48, Texan as well, raised by smoking parents, and started dipping in elementary school. Hell, I am only half kidding around when I talk about my first job. It was riding around picking up coke bottles and going to the convenience store and turning them in for cash and buying Happy Days snuff. Back ing the 70's they only carded for alcohol. Lol. Not tobacco. I'm actually still amazed that they would sell tobacco to to a kid in elementary school. Well, point is, I have never even been able to slow down dipping until a friend told me about KTC and I came here and took the hardest step, Day 1. I had actually given up on being able to quit. But today is 182 days and I tell ya, I never thought it could be this good. It's awesome. Trust yourself to KTC philosophy and you will do fine. At night, turn off the tv and spend your time here. Read all that you can. Everything. Get on chat. Give your phone number to quit buddies. Take every number given to you and start building relationships here. I'll give you your first tool for Quitn. ODAAT. One day at a time. Quittn forever is too big to tackle. Just quit one day at a time. You got this. Click on my name and send me a pm. I'll quit with ya bro.
Gdubya - 182
Great mindset! Read everything here. So much knowledge here... Follow the plan it works. Use that time to quit feeling wisely as it does not last forever. Get active on KTC and get your plan together. PM me if you need anything.
Damn, that's some good reading right there.
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Roll call still says Sunday. Its 5:11 a.m. monday morning. I posted anyway but it post ?
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Roll call still says Sunday. Its 5:11 a.m. monday morning. I posted anyway but it post ?
It needs to be flipped still. You can change the date and delete the names from the previous day to start a fresh one for today.
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Roll call still says Sunday. Its 5:11 a.m. monday morning. I posted anyway but it post ?
It needs to be flipped still. You can change the date and delete the names from the previous day to start a fresh one for today.
Got June fixed man.
The first person of the day usually just erases all of the previous day's info and flips the date. No big deal.
(Also, I'm going to merge all your intros together. We like to keep it to one here.)
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im not giving you a response you want .I already answered all three of the rhetorical questions asked of me.you dont care about 30 days? 30 days gives me 29 more days of quitting experience than my day one which makes me better equipped for the nuances of my journey. Like I said yesterday, my day one, ask me in thirty days
You like to fight.
I like that.
But, dude, you are picking the fight with friends instead of our enemy.
First of all, the three questions are not "rhetorical". "Rhetorical" questions are asked with the intention of not soliciting an answer. We want answers because we want to help you be quit.
Stop. Listen for one second. (Your quotes appear below and my responses are in italics.)
(1) What happened to me friday the 21st? I let my job get to me. Ummm...How did you get the chew you used? Did you stop and buy some? Did you bum one off of a friend? Did you lick that wad in the urinal at lunch hoping there was some nicotine left in after 40 guys pissed all over it? Did you still have a can in coat? What were specific actions to cave?
What you have offered ("I let my job get to me.") explains nothing.
(2) Why did "it" happen? If "it" means why did I stop and buy a can of grizzly? Chewing was my way of coping with the stress of everyday life struggles. OK..so you bought a can of chew. I'm really glad. That urinal thing was kinda gross as I typed it and I was hoping that was not the right answer. Whew...
Although I abhor the rest of what you have written here, I love the one word you wrote: WAS. Chewing was a way of coping for you. You used it to escape into a nicotine buzz for a momentary piece of ectasy. The problem is that every chew you take is less of a buzz, and as an addict, you spend the rest of the time searching for that high again. It's kind of pathetic when you think about it. You were willing to sacrifice your time, money, and body to a cancerous weed, but...
You made the decision to quit. Why?
Surely, using is not all rainbows and cupcakes.
Did that one can you stopped and bought fix all of life's problems? And, if it did, why are you quitting the magical elixir?
Why did you decide to quit? Why was it so difficult that you couldn't even make it one day? Why didn't you reach out to anybody on this board and ask for help? Why do you think that you are the only quitter here that used nicotine to cope? Are you a special butterfly?
(Those are all rhetorical questions. You need to answer the "Why did it happen?" question still.)
(3) What am I going to do different? Today I got through without the overwhelming urge for a chew. It is a process of retraining my brain to deal with stress differently.everyday is a different day with different challenges thrown my way and i have to man up and deal with each struggle independently. Once you realize the answer to this answer, you're going to kick yourself.
YOU ARE NOT ALONE IN THIS QUIT.
I don't know if you remember the show Seinfeld, but it had this one scene where he tried to rent a car. He had made a reservation, but the car company didn't have anything left. The lady working the counter told him that she knew what a reservation was, and he responded "I don't think you do. You see....anybody can take a reservation. It's the holding part that's really important." (in a much more comedic tone)
Anybody can promise not to use nicotine, but only a quitter knows how to hold that promise. This board is built on trust and brotherhood: I trust that you won't use once you sign your name to roll call, and I will do anything in my power to help you stay quit today. I don't know shit about you, but I'm willing to go into this battle with you no questions asked.
Your day (whether it is day 1 or day 30 or day 1000) begins with a promise to yourself to stay quit. You back up this action by posting that promise here and we promise to hold you accountable. Then, you reach out whenever you are in need. We deal with huge amounts of quitters every day. Some days are easy. Some days are hard. When times are good, we practice for the bad. When times are bad, we lean on what we've learned.
We ask that you answer these 3 questions (not for us), but for you. Quitting here isn't about flailing your arms and being a leaf in the wind. Nah. Quitting here is about saying you want to be quit, planning to be quit, and understanding why you have failed in the past. The future will take care of itself if you understand the answer to these 3 questions. As I've said in the past, the KTC can be your biggest, baddest weapon in this battle...but it's up to YOU to pull the trigger.
So, back to your original post....
I could give a flying fuck about 30 days from now because it has no bearing on today. Did you post roll today? Good. Back that shit up, and do everything in your power to stay quit today. If that's too long, worry about this hour, minute, or even second.
We have such pleasures to show you...
I'll change my answer to the third question. What I would do differently is post roll. I'm going to stand by my answers to the other questions
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im not giving you a response you want .I already answered all three of the rhetorical questions asked of me.you dont care about 30 days? 30 days gives me 29 more days of quitting experience than my day one which makes me better equipped for the nuances of my journey. Like I said yesterday, my day one, ask me in thirty days
You like to fight.
I like that.
But, dude, you are picking the fight with friends instead of our enemy.
First of all, the three questions are not "rhetorical". "Rhetorical" questions are asked with the intention of not soliciting an answer. We want answers because we want to help you be quit.
Stop. Listen for one second. (Your quotes appear below and my responses are in italics.)
(1) What happened to me friday the 21st? I let my job get to me. Ummm...How did you get the chew you used? Did you stop and buy some? Did you bum one off of a friend? Did you lick that wad in the urinal at lunch hoping there was some nicotine left in after 40 guys pissed all over it? Did you still have a can in coat? What were specific actions to cave?
What you have offered ("I let my job get to me.") explains nothing.
(2) Why did "it" happen? If "it" means why did I stop and buy a can of grizzly? Chewing was my way of coping with the stress of everyday life struggles. OK..so you bought a can of chew. I'm really glad. That urinal thing was kinda gross as I typed it and I was hoping that was not the right answer. Whew...
Although I abhor the rest of what you have written here, I love the one word you wrote: WAS. Chewing was a way of coping for you. You used it to escape into a nicotine buzz for a momentary piece of ectasy. The problem is that every chew you take is less of a buzz, and as an addict, you spend the rest of the time searching for that high again. It's kind of pathetic when you think about it. You were willing to sacrifice your time, money, and body to a cancerous weed, but...
You made the decision to quit. Why?
Surely, using is not all rainbows and cupcakes.
Did that one can you stopped and bought fix all of life's problems? And, if it did, why are you quitting the magical elixir?
Why did you decide to quit? Why was it so difficult that you couldn't even make it one day? Why didn't you reach out to anybody on this board and ask for help? Why do you think that you are the only quitter here that used nicotine to cope? Are you a special butterfly?
(Those are all rhetorical questions. You need to answer the "Why did it happen?" question still.)
(3) What am I going to do different? Today I got through without the overwhelming urge for a chew. It is a process of retraining my brain to deal with stress differently.everyday is a different day with different challenges thrown my way and i have to man up and deal with each struggle independently. Once you realize the answer to this answer, you're going to kick yourself.
YOU ARE NOT ALONE IN THIS QUIT.
I don't know if you remember the show Seinfeld, but it had this one scene where he tried to rent a car. He had made a reservation, but the car company didn't have anything left. The lady working the counter told him that she knew what a reservation was, and he responded "I don't think you do. You see....anybody can take a reservation. It's the holding part that's really important." (in a much more comedic tone)
Anybody can promise not to use nicotine, but only a quitter knows how to hold that promise. This board is built on trust and brotherhood: I trust that you won't use once you sign your name to roll call, and I will do anything in my power to help you stay quit today. I don't know shit about you, but I'm willing to go into this battle with you no questions asked.
Your day (whether it is day 1 or day 30 or day 1000) begins with a promise to yourself to stay quit. You back up this action by posting that promise here and we promise to hold you accountable. Then, you reach out whenever you are in need. We deal with huge amounts of quitters every day. Some days are easy. Some days are hard. When times are good, we practice for the bad. When times are bad, we lean on what we've learned.
We ask that you answer these 3 questions (not for us), but for you. Quitting here isn't about flailing your arms and being a leaf in the wind. Nah. Quitting here is about saying you want to be quit, planning to be quit, and understanding why you have failed in the past. The future will take care of itself if you understand the answer to these 3 questions. As I've said in the past, the KTC can be your biggest, baddest weapon in this battle...but it's up to YOU to pull the trigger.
So, back to your original post....
I could give a flying fuck about 30 days from now because it has no bearing on today. Did you post roll today? Good. Back that shit up, and do everything in your power to stay quit today. If that's too long, worry about this hour, minute, or even second.
We have such pleasures to show you...
I'll change my answer to the third question. What I would do differently is post roll. I'm going to stand by my answers to the other questions
'bang head'
Don't fuck with me, man.
Do you want to be quit?
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im not giving you a response you want .I already answered all three of the rhetorical questions asked of me.you dont care about 30 days? 30 days gives me 29 more days of quitting experience than my day one which makes me better equipped for the nuances of my journey. Like I said yesterday, my day one, ask me in thirty days
You like to fight.
I like that.
But, dude, you are picking the fight with friends instead of our enemy.
First of all, the three questions are not "rhetorical". "Rhetorical" questions are asked with the intention of not soliciting an answer. We want answers because we want to help you be quit.
Stop. Listen for one second. (Your quotes appear below and my responses are in italics.)
(1) What happened to me friday the 21st? I let my job get to me. Ummm...How did you get the chew you used? Did you stop and buy some? Did you bum one off of a friend? Did you lick that wad in the urinal at lunch hoping there was some nicotine left in after 40 guys pissed all over it? Did you still have a can in coat? What were specific actions to cave?
What you have offered ("I let my job get to me.") explains nothing.
(2) Why did "it" happen? If "it" means why did I stop and buy a can of grizzly? Chewing was my way of coping with the stress of everyday life struggles. OK..so you bought a can of chew. I'm really glad. That urinal thing was kinda gross as I typed it and I was hoping that was not the right answer. Whew...
Although I abhor the rest of what you have written here, I love the one word you wrote: WAS. Chewing was a way of coping for you. You used it to escape into a nicotine buzz for a momentary piece of ectasy. The problem is that every chew you take is less of a buzz, and as an addict, you spend the rest of the time searching for that high again. It's kind of pathetic when you think about it. You were willing to sacrifice your time, money, and body to a cancerous weed, but...
You made the decision to quit. Why?
Surely, using is not all rainbows and cupcakes.
Did that one can you stopped and bought fix all of life's problems? And, if it did, why are you quitting the magical elixir?
Why did you decide to quit? Why was it so difficult that you couldn't even make it one day? Why didn't you reach out to anybody on this board and ask for help? Why do you think that you are the only quitter here that used nicotine to cope? Are you a special butterfly?
(Those are all rhetorical questions. You need to answer the "Why did it happen?" question still.)
(3) What am I going to do different? Today I got through without the overwhelming urge for a chew. It is a process of retraining my brain to deal with stress differently.everyday is a different day with different challenges thrown my way and i have to man up and deal with each struggle independently. Once you realize the answer to this answer, you're going to kick yourself.
YOU ARE NOT ALONE IN THIS QUIT.
I don't know if you remember the show Seinfeld, but it had this one scene where he tried to rent a car. He had made a reservation, but the car company didn't have anything left. The lady working the counter told him that she knew what a reservation was, and he responded "I don't think you do. You see....anybody can take a reservation. It's the holding part that's really important." (in a much more comedic tone)
Anybody can promise not to use nicotine, but only a quitter knows how to hold that promise. This board is built on trust and brotherhood: I trust that you won't use once you sign your name to roll call, and I will do anything in my power to help you stay quit today. I don't know shit about you, but I'm willing to go into this battle with you no questions asked.
Your day (whether it is day 1 or day 30 or day 1000) begins with a promise to yourself to stay quit. You back up this action by posting that promise here and we promise to hold you accountable. Then, you reach out whenever you are in need. We deal with huge amounts of quitters every day. Some days are easy. Some days are hard. When times are good, we practice for the bad. When times are bad, we lean on what we've learned.
We ask that you answer these 3 questions (not for us), but for you. Quitting here isn't about flailing your arms and being a leaf in the wind. Nah. Quitting here is about saying you want to be quit, planning to be quit, and understanding why you have failed in the past. The future will take care of itself if you understand the answer to these 3 questions. As I've said in the past, the KTC can be your biggest, baddest weapon in this battle...but it's up to YOU to pull the trigger.
So, back to your original post....
I could give a flying fuck about 30 days from now because it has no bearing on today. Did you post roll today? Good. Back that shit up, and do everything in your power to stay quit today. If that's too long, worry about this hour, minute, or even second.
We have such pleasures to show you...
I'll change my answer to the third question. What I would do differently is post roll. I'm going to stand by my answers to the other questions
'bang head'
Don't fuck with me, man.
Do you want to be quit?
"We have such pleasures to show you" Classic!!!!
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Horse fucking shit! My job. Cry me a fucking river. My daughter has a broken hip and femur. My mother is now in a fucking diabetic coma. Did I fucking cave? Fuck no. Why? Because I fucking bought in. I got numbers and follow what groundwork that has been lain before me. Follow these fuckers and they will lead you to the promised land. Or you could keep up with the special butterfly bullshit and die of cancer.
Man up. Or are u a pussy? Meow!!!
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I dont use what if ..... to judge how I react to a situation. Scenarios are a waste of time because they never end. I answered the three questions the best that I can in the first step of my journey im not going to give anyone an answer they want to hear or fits their ideas of what they think my answer should be. Ask me the questions in thirty days and I'll give a more educated response based on the journey taken to that point.
Really? Seriously...you don't use "what-if's" to think about your life? You just react? I use what-if's all the time. And in my profession, I don't just allow "reactions" to occur. You name a scenario, and my company has probably already ask me "what if". If fact, my company spends millions a year on instructors to ask me what-if questions (2-3 times a year), then they spend 100's of millions on simulators to see that my "reactions" are the right ACTIONS. They don't leave it to chance. Scenarios (what-ifs) are a not a waste of time just because I could dream up a new, possibly unheard scenario. In simple terms - Every time I am run through one of those "what-if" scenarios, this I am better prepared for an "actual" scenario. If you think that you can just "react" to the next 30 days of craves, or the next 3 years of craves....you are in for disappointment.
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Hmmm. 59 replies and only 6 days, and a cave in there somewhere. Been busy... It is possible that a name change is in order! Why the heck can't some people just Post Roll and stay quit?
'Remshot' :ph43r:
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I received a pm from a member the other day saying to avoid the triggers that would make me want to dip. All of you have gone through the same things I am going through. How do avoid the biggest trigger of all when it's your job? I can't quit my job. Not making any excuses. I made it two days without dipping. I caved in today. My wife is very supporting of me quitting this habit. Everyone on here needs encouraged to continue staying nicotine free. Looks like I start over.
Day 1 again. There must be something in the air. You say your biggest trigger is your job. My biggest trigger was my eyes being opened. As soon as i brushed my teeth after waking i placed a big was of chew in and all day long i would make preparations for my next and then the next.
If i can post roll and keep my word daily you can damn sure do it. How bad do you want this. There is no magic trigger peel.
Here's something to think about. Quitting is worth a job change. Quitting is worth moving from one country to another. Quitting is worth whatever you got to do to make it happen. That's a fact!! Post roll and keep your word or continue being a slave. That's your choices. You got three questions to answer.
I totally agree with srans. This isn't about finding secret tips on how to withstand cravings. Your brain is screaming at you for its fix. After all its what you gave it over and over and over again. Quitting is all about DESIRE. Real heartfelt, desperate, life of death desire. You have to want to be done with it more than anything else. Wanting to quit, or knowing you should quit isn't enough. Its got to come from deep down.
Post your new day one today. You only posted a Day 1, then you caved. Gotta admire your resolve...not
Answer 3 questions.
What happened?
Why did it happen?
What are you going to do different this time.
mind shift here needed.....
you have an addiction. that is why you keep throwing nicotine back into your lip and into your system.
if it was a habit, then you would use other items and not poison yourself.
So realize that first, because until you do, history will repeat.
then move into the higher education of yourself with those 3 questions. Do not take them lightly. really think about them and write them down.
Either you want to quit or you don't. No one here can help you if you don't want to quit. You have to be the one to keep the dog shit out of your mouth. Are you a man or a monkey?
Answer the 3 questions. Keep this in mind... Your odds of getting help from us hinges on you remaining engaged with us. You came here the other day... Disappeared with your holster and car keys out the door ... Then show up today and tell us you stuffed your face full of dip. Then ask us about triggers.
Quitting here requires you to communicate with us. Then we communicate back. Drive by quitters fail. Show us you want it and stay with us... We are here to help. With that, Your odds increase exponentially.
No magic potion as others said. My biggest craves centered around stressful situations. I still have stressful situations but I now deal with them without dipping.
You can do this. But you have to want it. Right now you are not all in here.
By quitting my job by moving on to a different country as you suggest doing whatever it takes to remain quit still eludes the most important fact. That fact being whatever you , me or any othet addict does the addiction will still be there. So by trying to outrun the addiction you always lose because its always with you. Why not just confront it head on?
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I dont use what if ..... to judge how I react to a situation. Scenarios are a waste of time because they never end. I answered the three questions the best that I can in the first step of my journey im not going to give anyone an answer they want to hear or fits their ideas of what they think my answer should be. Ask me the questions in thirty days and I'll give a more educated response based on the journey taken to that point.
Really? Seriously...you don't use "what-if's" to think about your life? You just react? I use what-if's all the time. And in my profession, I don't just allow "reactions" to occur. You name a scenario, and my company has probably already ask me "what if". If fact, my company spends millions a year on instructors to ask me what-if questions (2-3 times a year), then they spend 100's of millions on simulators to see that my "reactions" are the right ACTIONS. They don't leave it to chance. Scenarios (what-ifs) are a not a waste of time just because I could dream up a new, possibly unheard scenario. In simple terms - Every time I am run through one of those "what-if" scenarios, this I am better prepared for an "actual" scenario. If you think that you can just "react" to the next 30 days of craves, or the next 3 years of craves....you are in for disappointment.
Seriously chief. Leave the what if crap to your r d dept. Quit living in a box of fear.you can't control every aspect of day to day living. What if I drop something on my foot at work ? What if I step in dog poop , what if I shit myself at work? You got all that covered from your box of scenarios? Problems come and problems go. Have some faith in your own resolve dude.
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I received a pm from a member the other day saying to avoid the triggers that would make me want to dip. All of you have gone through the same things I am going through. How do avoid the biggest trigger of all when it's your job? I can't quit my job. Not making any excuses. I made it two days without dipping. I caved in today. My wife is very supporting of me quitting this habit. Everyone on here needs encouraged to continue staying nicotine free. Looks like I start over.
Day 1 again. There must be something in the air. You say your biggest trigger is your job. My biggest trigger was my eyes being opened. As soon as i brushed my teeth after waking i placed a big was of chew in and all day long i would make preparations for my next and then the next.
If i can post roll and keep my word daily you can damn sure do it. How bad do you want this. There is no magic trigger peel.
Here's something to think about. Quitting is worth a job change. Quitting is worth moving from one country to another. Quitting is worth whatever you got to do to make it happen. That's a fact!! Post roll and keep your word or continue being a slave. That's your choices. You got three questions to answer.
I totally agree with srans. This isn't about finding secret tips on how to withstand cravings. Your brain is screaming at you for its fix. After all its what you gave it over and over and over again. Quitting is all about DESIRE. Real heartfelt, desperate, life of death desire. You have to want to be done with it more than anything else. Wanting to quit, or knowing you should quit isn't enough. Its got to come from deep down.
Post your new day one today. You only posted a Day 1, then you caved. Gotta admire your resolve...not
Answer 3 questions.
What happened?
Why did it happen?
What are you going to do different this time.
mind shift here needed.....
you have an addiction. that is why you keep throwing nicotine back into your lip and into your system.
if it was a habit, then you would use other items and not poison yourself.
So realize that first, because until you do, history will repeat.
then move into the higher education of yourself with those 3 questions. Do not take them lightly. really think about them and write them down.
Either you want to quit or you don't. No one here can help you if you don't want to quit. You have to be the one to keep the dog shit out of your mouth. Are you a man or a monkey?
Answer the 3 questions. Keep this in mind... Your odds of getting help from us hinges on you remaining engaged with us. You came here the other day... Disappeared with your holster and car keys out the door ... Then show up today and tell us you stuffed your face full of dip. Then ask us about triggers.
Quitting here requires you to communicate with us. Then we communicate back. Drive by quitters fail. Show us you want it and stay with us... We are here to help. With that, Your odds increase exponentially.
No magic potion as others said. My biggest craves centered around stressful situations. I still have stressful situations but I now deal with them without dipping.
You can do this. But you have to want it. Right now you are not all in here.
By quitting my job by moving on to a different country as you suggest doing whatever it takes to remain quit still eludes the most important fact. That fact being whatever you , me or any othet addict does the addiction will still be there. So by trying to outrun the addiction you always lose because its always with you. Why not just confront it head on?
Why not just stay quit? Why not stop being conflicting. Why not post roll, and keep your word. My biggest trigger was drugs, should I go pop a hand full of opiates and see if I can stay quit? Fuck that, I avoid it. Some triggers you can avoid, and some triggers you wont be able to avoid, but you have to overcome them. Whatever it takes man. I see your day 15 and thats huge. If youve made it this far, there is no limit to your quit. Keep strong, stay commited and keep kickin ass
Winter Green