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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: rokbanned on December 16, 2015, 11:18:00 AM
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Howdy!
I'm pretty happy to have found this site. I've had a lot of strange stuff going on the past couple weeks since I quit, and literally thought I was dying of cancer or god knows what. It seems alot of us share the same withdrawals and issues when we first quit for a few months. I quit about 5 yrs ago for a yr or 2, then like a fool went back to it. Last time I quit it was a piece of cake, this time not so much. I actually believe there should be a sticky thread with nothing but people's symptoms during their quit. By this, I mean literally nothing but symptoms. Some things I've had happen are quite interesting. The first day, I didn't worry too much, I actually was playing Battlefield thinking of my son, 7 months old, and tossed my can in the trash. Went to bed thinking nothing of it. Next day wasn't even that bad. By night 3, I had some really funky stuff going. From stomach cramps, to my mouth feeling tingly and the proverbial "fog". Dizzy, nauseous, the side of my face has been feeling like it's either crawling or hot and flush, then it just goes away and nothing more. My gums never bothered me, but the insides of my cheeks are sore off and on now. I've had the sore jaw off and on. Night sweats for quite a few nights during my first and start of my second week. About night 4, I got the sore/swollen throat going, which as of now has mostly passed but once in a while I'll notice it then it's gone. I also feel like I have a cramp once in a while in my gut. I started week 3, my quit date was 11/30, and it seems like everything should be better already. But it's not... It's just plain not. Anxiety is super intermittent, from one second feeling like nothing is going on to the next second worrying about anything and everything possible. My mind has been scattered everywhere the past couple weeks. I lift, and started eating super clean. By this I mean mostly fruits and veggies, no fried foods at all and absolutely no junk food or soda pops. I've lost maybe 6 or 7 lbs, which isn't bad since I work at a desk. The lifting and exercise takes my mind off it for a bit, but I seem to worry alot about things like the soreness in my mouth I get sometimes. As a background, I started chewing when I was 18, I'm now 42. Minus those couple years, that's a long time to do anything. The associations are the worst to break I believe. If I fire up my chainsaw, a dip goes in, if I hop on my dirtbike or MC or quad a dip goes in, when I jump in my Jeep a dip goes in. You get the picture... No matter what we do we always do it with a big fatty. I'm curious as to what other symptoms everyone has had. i.e. not just the ones listed as most common in the list, but personal ones. How long did they last for you? What new funky things do you have going on?
I hope everyone has a Merry Christmas and you and your families are safe and healthy. :)
'Popcorn'
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I'm right there with you, age 39, quit on 11/29 after 8+ years and also expected things to be better by now and they are not. Nearly all of the symptoms you describe, I am experiencing and my anxiety level goes from moderate to sky high hour-to-hour or day-to-day. The veterans here say things will get better eventually so let's both look forward to that time arriving soon.
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I'm right there with you, age 39, quit on 11/29 after 8+ years and also expected things to be better by now and they are not. Nearly all of the symptoms you describe, I am experiencing and my anxiety level goes from moderate to sky high hour-to-hour or day-to-day. The veterans here say things will get better eventually so let's both look forward to that time arriving soon.
About 486 days quit here. It took me about a year and 3-5 dentist appointments to move past a lot of the worrying. I would get a sore throat, change in my mouth and i would worry, and give myself stomach aches, sleepless nights, etc.
At about 100 days you will fee good, 200 feeling great, and I will let you know about 500 soon ;)
Here is a good listing about what to expect:
http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/sym ... -dip-chew/ (http://www.killthecan.org/your-quit/symptoms-of-quitting-dip-chew/)
Stay quit, it will get better each day!
ID Spuds
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physically I feel good most of the time. The worry seems to come and go, which I feel odd about. And when it comes, its hell to deal with. When I quit I felt great, but now that I've quit it seems like I"m falling apart. Not sure if that's normal, but I wouldn't imagine worse things could happen from stopping a bad drug... I'll never go back to it. That's just ingrained in my mind. Looking forward to seeing my boy grow and have alot of fun along the way. :) Hopefully as the days go by, my mind will stop playing tricks on me, and my body will heal back to it's pre chew status...
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The backbone of this site is posting roll. It is your daily promise to yourself and your fellow quitters to not use nicotine for 24 hours.
Post up first this each day:
topic/11424456/132/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11424456/132/)
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Heya Rok. I was 44 when I quit, a 17-18 year user and a 40-50 stopper. I only QUIT once, and I owe it to posting roll and getting support from men and women quitting with me. Join us and save your life.
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Heya Rok. I was 44 when I quit, a 17-18 year user and a 40-50 stopper. I only QUIT once, and I owe it to posting roll and getting support from men and women quitting with me. Join us and save your life.
yea man, Im in it for the long haul. I haven't given up at any point in the past couple weeks, but I've thought about packing one. I keep finding cans all over. Threw 3 brand new cans away the day I quit, and then a couple days ago I found a full can in my Jeep. Getting rid of that one was not an easy thing to say the least. I'll get there. Just wondering how long before all the funky stuff goes away. :D
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38 here. 25ish year user. Each day I thank God, KTC and the people of KTC that have helped me make this happen. Day 130 here and dang proud to be quit. I do know I can only quit one day at a time and I'm proud knowing that. I'm here for you if I can be of assistance. Quit on brother.
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It'll take you at least a year or so to unfuck yourself. The only way to get there is one day at a time. You've poisoned yourself for years. It's gonna take a while to feel normal again. Hang with us and post roll every single morning first thing. It's the only way to success and a new life of freedom. You never needed that shit and it fucked you up royally. It's evil. It's pure death. Stay quit with us, every day.
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It'll take you at least a year or so to unfuck yourself. The only way to get there is one day at a time. You've poisoned yourself for years. It's gonna take a while to feel normal again. Hang with us and post roll every single morning first thing. It's the only way to success and a new life of freedom. You never needed that shit and it fucked you up royally. It's evil. It's pure death. Stay quit with us, every day.
^^^^ listen to this guy.... His advice is spot on.
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For all of you what were your time lines? Like I've read week 3 is really bad. I've started getting some pretty nasty cravings, not that I'd give in, but I can tell I'm not Dippin. How long before your mouth cleared up? Ya know, the scratchy lip and cheek. Mine is intermittent, some parts of the day it's like new, other parts it feels sore and irritated. The throat thing has started to subside. I got pretty dizzy earlier, but that left and the foggy feeling started. Coincidentally shortly after I found one of those chew coupons and it really stimulated an urge to grab a chew. I have the smokey mountain, but I'm flat out refusing to chew anything. I feel that's the best tactic. Would yall agree on that?
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For all of you what were your time lines? Like I've read week 3 is really bad. I've started getting some pretty nasty cravings, not that I'd give in, but I can tell I'm not Dippin. How long before your mouth cleared up? Ya know, the scratchy lip and cheek. Mine is intermittent, some parts of the day it's like new, other parts it feels sore and irritated. The throat thing has started to subside. I got pretty dizzy earlier, but that left and the foggy feeling started. Coincidentally shortly after I found one of those chew coupons and it really stimulated an urge to grab a chew. I have the smokey mountain, but I'm flat out refusing to chew anything. I feel that's the best tactic. Would yall agree on that?
Look here my brother, I dipped 38 year's been nic free 355 day's, now that's frigging awesome! It sucks ass and will till it don't! Sore mouth, jaw,throat , to the way I feel now is priceless! We stick that shit in our mouth for years and expect to heal in a couple weeks, not gonna happen. Consider this every damn second that poisons not in your mouth is a huge win. One day at a time, you can do that! Your brain has to rewire, your body has to heal, I've never read where anyone has died from quitting but there's a whole bunch from one's that never found ktc! Live ktc and Live! Quit on!
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For all of you what were your time lines? Like I've read week 3 is really bad. I've started getting some pretty nasty cravings, not that I'd give in, but I can tell I'm not Dippin. How long before your mouth cleared up? Ya know, the scratchy lip and cheek. Mine is intermittent, some parts of the day it's like new, other parts it feels sore and irritated. The throat thing has started to subside. I got pretty dizzy earlier, but that left and the foggy feeling started. Coincidentally shortly after I found one of those chew coupons and it really stimulated an urge to grab a chew. I have the smokey mountain, but I'm flat out refusing to chew anything. I feel that's the best tactic. Would yall agree on that?
Look here my brother, I dipped 38 year's been nic free 355 day's, now that's frigging awesome! It sucks ass and will till it don't! Sore mouth, jaw,throat , to the way I feel now is priceless! We stick that shit in our mouth for years and expect to heal in a couple weeks, not gonna happen. Consider this every damn second that poisons not in your mouth is a huge win. One day at a time, you can do that! Your brain has to rewire, your body has to heal, I've never read where anyone has died from quitting but there's a whole bunch from one's that never found ktc! Live ktc and Live! Quit on!
+1 agreed dude... Always in a rush, ya know... I'm just wanting it to end. I felt better before oddly enough.
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For all of you what were your time lines? Like I've read week 3 is really bad. I've started getting some pretty nasty cravings, not that I'd give in, but I can tell I'm not Dippin. How long before your mouth cleared up? Ya know, the scratchy lip and cheek. Mine is intermittent, some parts of the day it's like new, other parts it feels sore and irritated. The throat thing has started to subside. I got pretty dizzy earlier, but that left and the foggy feeling started. Coincidentally shortly after I found one of those chew coupons and it really stimulated an urge to grab a chew. I have the smokey mountain, but I'm flat out refusing to chew anything. I feel that's the best tactic. Would yall agree on that?
Look here my brother, I dipped 38 year's been nic free 355 day's, now that's frigging awesome! It sucks ass and will till it don't! Sore mouth, jaw,throat , to the way I feel now is priceless! We stick that shit in our mouth for years and expect to heal in a couple weeks, not gonna happen. Consider this every damn second that poisons not in your mouth is a huge win. One day at a time, you can do that! Your brain has to rewire, your body has to heal, I've never read where anyone has died from quitting but there's a whole bunch from one's that never found ktc! Live ktc and Live! Quit on!
+1 agreed dude... Always in a rush, ya know... I'm just wanting it to end. I felt better before oddly enough.
Hey, you dipped for over 20 years how can you think 3 weeks is gonna reverse all that time? I know, I thought that recovery would be faster also! Well it's not, I started before you were born and I've been quit for 1350 days and I still have the occasional bad day or two. But I'm healing and realize that the bad choices I made in the past don't have to identify me but the choices I make today do. I am still an addict but I choose not to use.
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For all of you what were your time lines? Like I've read week 3 is really bad. I've started getting some pretty nasty cravings, not that I'd give in, but I can tell I'm not Dippin. How long before your mouth cleared up? Ya know, the scratchy lip and cheek. Mine is intermittent, some parts of the day it's like new, other parts it feels sore and irritated. The throat thing has started to subside. I got pretty dizzy earlier, but that left and the foggy feeling started. Coincidentally shortly after I found one of those chew coupons and it really stimulated an urge to grab a chew. I have the smokey mountain, but I'm flat out refusing to chew anything. I feel that's the best tactic. Would yall agree on that?
Look here my brother, I dipped 38 year's been nic free 355 day's, now that's frigging awesome! It sucks ass and will till it don't! Sore mouth, jaw,throat , to the way I feel now is priceless! We stick that shit in our mouth for years and expect to heal in a couple weeks, not gonna happen. Consider this every damn second that poisons not in your mouth is a huge win. One day at a time, you can do that! Your brain has to rewire, your body has to heal, I've never read where anyone has died from quitting but there's a whole bunch from one's that never found ktc! Live ktc and Live! Quit on!
+1 agreed dude... Always in a rush, ya know... I'm just wanting it to end. I felt better before oddly enough.
Hey, you dipped for over 20 years how can you think 3 weeks is gonna reverse all that time? I know, I thought that recovery would be faster also! Well it's not, I started before you were born and I've been quit for 1350 days and I still have the occasional bad day or two. But I'm healing and realize that the bad choices I made in the past don't have to identify me but the choices I make today do. I am still an addict but I choose not to use.
Day19... Wow... I've gotten my first like insane cravings for chew today. Unbelievable that this long after I'd still get really strong urges like that. Salt water has seemed to help the sores that popped up in my mouth the past 2 days. I'm hoping this shit passes sooner than later... 'embarrassed'
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Look at what you're going through, see what you were doing to your body? It amazes me how we dip year's and destroy our body at the same time knowing were killing ourselves not worrying about anything except our next fix! We finally find ktc ,where we have thousands of people been through the same thing and understand how to help. So we quit were still addicts, our addict brain immediately starts to work on us, I feel like shit, I can't take a good shit without a dip, my anxiety level is overboard, I can't sleep but mostly I've been quit now a couple of weeks, I'm tired of feeling like this , not dipping anymore, why the hell I feel like this after being quit damn near 2 weeks now? I would go through all of the headaches, constipation, fog,anxiety and anything else the bitch throws at me for the freedom I've enjoyed for 357 days! It takes time, suck it up and get it done! Quit on!
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Look at what you're going through, see what you were doing to your body? It amazes me how we dip year's and destroy our body at the same time knowing were killing ourselves not worrying about anything except our next fix! We finally find ktc ,where we have thousands of people been through the same thing and understand how to help. So we quit were still addicts, our addict brain immediately starts to work on us, I feel like shit, I can't take a good shit without a dip, my anxiety level is overboard, I can't sleep but mostly I've been quit now a couple of weeks, I'm tired of feeling like this , not dipping anymore, why the hell I feel like this after being quit damn near 2 weeks now? I would go through all of the headaches, constipation, fog,anxiety and anything else the bitch throws at me for the freedom I've enjoyed for 357 days! It takes time, suck it up and get it done! Quit on!
yeh... I'm never going back dude. I'll never be a slave to any substance again. I really dislike that I've let myself be so ingrained with a habit. I've just gotta find other way to not think about it. when I lift and work out is about the only time the past few days. Guess I'll just have to do more of that. I'm actually writing all this so I remember how bad it sucks in case I ever forget. The Can gets a big fuck you from me today. Tomorrow starts week 4. Hopefully a home stretch to easier livin. :)
Preciate your words dude. The fog is still very much here. And a pile of anxiety as well. The sore tongue and mouth started a little more than usual, the sore throat is intermittent as well. I'll get through it.
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So today is day 28. This has been an interesting journey the past month. I haven't even come close to cracking, but not because I didn't have an urge. Some of my "friends" have been kind of douchy. Offering me a chew or beers even after I say no. To the point of me having to be a dick so they understand I don't want any of it. That being said, I'm learning to keep myself busy thinking about other things when I do get an urge. I'm not sure it'll ever feel right w/out a dip going, but I guess making the best of it is what we all have to do. I still am finding myself just wandering around and forgetting what I was going to do quite often, the "fog" I assume. My mouth is getting intermittent sores still, but I'm still using salt water to rinse out my mouth. I still get a funky feeling where it feels like my cheek feels funky, kind of flush I guess would be the description. Once in a while some bloating in my stomach, and a little heartburn here or there. Still lifting and eating very clean. Fruits and veggies as well as fish and very lean meats. I also go to the Sauna 2x's a week to cleanse my body of the crap I've been putting in it. My jaw doesn't seem sore any more and my throat feels back to normal. I know quitting is still affecting me, but I'm ignoring it the best I can. I hope everyone that's quitting can realize how much better of a life your going to have after a bit of suffering. The only thing that's sure is getting used to living w/out a substance takes alot of getting used to. I think of my kids and my wife and siblings all the time, and that's basically what keeps me from cracking. What I wouldn't do for a big fat pinch of Kodiak. Maybe on my death bed... heh heh heh
As the famous Joe Dirt once said, "Keep on keepin on..."
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Either post roll or find somewhere else to tell your story. That is the price of admission.
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Either post roll or find somewhere else to tell your story. That is the price of admission.
the hell are you talking about?
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Either post roll or find somewhere else to tell your story. That is the price of admission.
the hell are you talking about?
You never heard of roll call on the KTC? Check out the Welcome Center and learn to post roll.
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What I wouldn't do for a big fat pinch of Kodiak.
There's no context where this is a good thing to say. Your quit is sounding weak. You need to figure out how to get strong. I suggest you take Thumblewort's advice and start posting roll. Find your quit group and post there every single day, and make some friends while you're at it. Everyone in the group quit around the same time you did. You need some accountability, right now you don't have it. Get to it mister.
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Rok congrats on your quit. Since the other 3 times it was said didn't get through to you for some reason I will echo. Post roll. Ask some of the guys in your group these questions, they are going through it the same time as you and similar experiences. The vets will chime in and keep people in line.... Spread some of your quit mojo on some people, and pick some up from others. Get involved in your group and Post roll every damn day (EDD).
The shit works when you are held accountable and post our daily quit promise to your quit brothers.
Otherwise you are setting yourself up for trouble down the road bro.
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Either post roll or find somewhere else to tell your story. That is the price of admission.
the hell are you talking about?
You never heard of roll call on the KTC? Check out the Welcome Center and learn to post roll.
Looks like you belong here:
topic/11424456/35/?x=90#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11424456/35/?x=90#new)
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Either post roll or find somewhere else to tell your story. That is the price of admission.
the hell are you talking about?
You never heard of roll call on the KTC? Check out the Welcome Center and learn to post roll.
Looks like you belong here:
topic/11424456/35/?x=90#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11424456/35/?x=90#new)
How the fuck does this happen?
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Either post roll or find somewhere else to tell your story. That is the price of admission.
the hell are you talking about?
You never heard of roll call on the KTC? Check out the Welcome Center and learn to post roll.
Looks like you belong here:
topic/11424456/35/?x=90#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11424456/35/?x=90#new)
How the fuck does this happen?
How does what happen?
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everyone can relax now... 'fireman'
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I quit with the Rok today.
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Hey Rok,
I like your reply that everyone can relax now. Where/how did you get that emoticon?
Congrats on your quit and starting this on your own. I did the same. I am at day 107 and the quit is still challenging. The main thing is not to focus on what you are quitting but instead to think about anything else.
What a great way to start your new year. Welcome to KTC.
I quit with you today.
Dundippin
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Hey Rok,
I like your reply that everyone can relax now. Where/how did you get that emoticon?
Congrats on your quit and starting this on your own. I did the same. I am at day 107 and the quit is still challenging. The main thing is not to focus on what you are quitting but instead to think about anything else.
What a great way to start your new year. Welcome to KTC.
I quit with you today.
Dundippin
Thanks dude. I basically focus on anything else right about now. I'm lucky enough to have snow, so I can putz around outside shoveling or doing anything other than thinking about a big dip. I still have funky stuff going on with me. Everything feels odd, just odd. My mouth started getting sore about 2 days ago, intermittently. I still get some anxiety and things are just plain funky. I'm happy to be done with this habit I've come to love. The moticon came from the left side of this post, heh heh heh...
I put that out there, i.e. the relax everyone, because I think some people think they should just belittle people and act like an all around asshole. Before it gets to that point, for what I've posted, I figured... We'd all like a big dip I think, I was just saying... I have myself convinced that I will never chew again. Not even the fake shit which would just be a precursor to the real crap. No booze for 90 days, no tobacco ever again.
Hello Tobacco!!! 'Finger'
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I put that out there, i.e. the relax everyone, because I think some people think they should just belittle people and act like an all around asshole. Before it gets to that point, for what I've posted, I figured... We'd all like a big dip I think, I was just saying... I have myself convinced that I will never chew again. Not even the fake shit which would just be a precursor to the real crap. No booze for 90 days, no tobacco ever again.
Hello Tobacco!!! 'Finger'
If me asking you to post roll and abide by the rules makes me an asshole, then I am an asshole and proud of it.
"We'd all like a big dip I think" what does that mean??????????
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I put that out there, i.e. the relax everyone, because I think some people think they should just belittle people and act like an all around asshole. Before it gets to that point, for what I've posted, I figured... We'd all like a big dip I think, I was just saying... I have myself convinced that I will never chew again. Not even the fake shit which would just be a precursor to the real crap. No booze for 90 days, no tobacco ever again.
Hello Tobacco!!! 'Finger'
If me asking you to post roll and abide by the rules makes me an asshole, then I am an asshole and proud of it.
"We'd all like a big dip I think" what does that mean??????????
Excuse me but I don't want no big fat dip and if you wanna make a while here you better start hating the shit ,instead of romanticizing about it! Twort right assholes around here is what saves a lot of caves! Quit on and humble yourself a little after all people trying to help you maybe save your life!
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I put that out there, i.e. the relax everyone, because I think some people think they should just belittle people and act like an all around asshole. Before it gets to that point, for what I've posted, I figured... We'd all like a big dip I think, I was just saying... I have myself convinced that I will never chew again. Not even the fake shit which would just be a precursor to the real crap. No booze for 90 days, no tobacco ever again.
Hello Tobacco!!! 'Finger'
If me asking you to post roll and abide by the rules makes me an asshole, then I am an asshole and proud of it.
"We'd all like a big dip I think" what does that mean??????????
Excuse me but I don't want no big fat dip and if you wanna make a while here you better start hating the shit ,instead of romanticizing about it! Twort right assholes around here is what saves a lot of caves! Quit on and humble yourself a little after all people trying to help you maybe save your life!
Get on board the quit wagon rokbanned. A better life is here for the taking. The fact that you are wishing you could have a big old fat dip ain't good. You need to hate that shit, and start watching how you talk and think about it. Words are indicative of thoughts. That's why people are jumping all in your shit. They're trying to awaken a drunken conductor and stop a train wreck. We've seen a few before here in these halls. Plus you need to post roll every day. It's the price of admission. Get on board the quit wagon or hit the bricks. Examine your thinking. Focus your hate.
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I'm happy to be done with this habit I've come to love.
Quitting is a mindset.
This sentence I've highlighted makes me think you're gonna bomb... big. Your mindset is shit.
It's not a habit... it's an addiction. Big difference.
You don't love it... you're owned by your addiction and IT makes you think you "love" it.
Wrong.
I see you failing... prove me wrong.
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I won't bomb. I won't fail anything I try at. I'm successful. Deal with it... sounds like u bunch of pussies are the ones whining. I was merely stating what is the obvious. If you thought your little blabbing bullshit at me was going to do anything other than invoke a verbal lashing right back at ya, you are sorely mistaken. You don't like what I write? Skip it and talk to your boifriend who might care... I didn't get on here to type what you'd like to read, it's general chit chat and curiosity to pass the day when I'm at work. If that doesn't work, the admin can gladly delete my profile. If not, and we are here to write and talk without being harassed and for info about our quit, you naysayers best back off. 'Finger'
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I won't bomb. I won't fail anything I try at. I'm successful. Deal with it... sounds like u bunch of pussies are the ones whining. I was merely stating what is the obvious. If you thought your little blabbing bullshit at me was going to do anything other than invoke a verbal lashing right back at ya, you are sorely mistaken. You don't like what I write? Skip it and talk to your boifriend who might care... I didn't get on here to type what you'd like to read, it's general chit chat and curiosity to pass the day when I'm at work. If that doesn't work, the admin can gladly delete my profile. If not, and we are here to write and talk without being harassed and for info about our quit, you naysayers best back off. 'Finger'
Rok
I'm here to tell you these guys know what they are talking about. The point is they are trying to get you to HATE dip and nicotine....it's the only way you can stay quit. If your thinking is still "love" "enjoy" it's just a matter of time before you are back fingering the can.
Each guy or gal may have a different approach, but I haven't found one person here who didn't have the quitters best interest in mind. The people you think are shitting down your throat are in reality doing what every addict needs. This isn't a habit it's an addiction . Period. I can also say with high confidence that each and every quitter commenting would take a bus for your quit...but only if you are fully committed as well.
Break free trust the process and get to saving your life.
DBG
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I won't bomb. I won't fail anything I try at. I'm successful. Deal with it... sounds like u bunch of pussies are the ones whining. I was merely stating what is the obvious. If you thought your little blabbing bullshit at me was going to do anything other than invoke a verbal lashing right back at ya, you are sorely mistaken. You don't like what I write? Skip it and talk to your boifriend who might care... I didn't get on here to type what you'd like to read, it's general chit chat and curiosity to pass the day when I'm at work. If that doesn't work, the admin can gladly delete my profile. If not, and we are here to write and talk without being harassed and for info about our quit, you naysayers best back off. 'Finger'
What a dumbass statement! Guy's trying to help you ! Good luck assclowns!
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I won't bomb. I won't fail anything I try at. I'm successful. Deal with it... sounds like u bunch of pussies are the ones whining. I was merely stating what is the obvious. If you thought your little blabbing bullshit at me was going to do anything other than invoke a verbal lashing right back at ya, you are sorely mistaken. You don't like what I write? Skip it and talk to your boifriend who might care... I didn't get on here to type what you'd like to read, it's general chit chat and curiosity to pass the day when I'm at work. If that doesn't work, the admin can gladly delete my profile. If not, and we are here to write and talk without being harassed and for info about our quit, you naysayers best back off. 'Finger'
Rok
I'm here to tell you these guys know what they are talking about. The point is they are trying to get you to HATE dip and nicotine....it's the only way you can stay quit. If your thinking is still "love" "enjoy" it's just a matter of time before you are back fingering the can.
Each guy or gal may have a different approach, but I haven't found one person here who didn't have the quitters best interest in mind. The people you think are shitting down your throat are in reality doing what every addict needs. This isn't a habit it's an addiction . Period. I can also say with high confidence that each and every quitter commenting would take a bus for your quit...but only if you are fully committed as well.
Break free trust the process and get to saving your life.
DBG
I've had a can of dip in my pocket since I quit. The only way you beat something is head on. Getting rid of it from around you isn't beating anything. It's making something more difficult to get. If it's in your face all the time and you can ignore it and have the willpower to refuse, I'd call that beating something... Basically the same thing with being married and being loyal. There's always temptation, you just have to decide to either be a sheep or a sheepdog... If I refuse to give in with it right here beside me, I cannot and will not fail.
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We had a guy like you in our December group for about a week or so. He swore the trophy can was going to help him quit too.
MikeyMcD Intro (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11339593/1/)
Toss that shit out.
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We had a guy like you in our December group for about a week or so. He swore the trophy can was going to help him quit too.
MikeyMcD Intro (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/11339593/1/)
Toss that shit out.
Rok this ^^^ guy is for real. So is Pab, so is Thumblewort, so are AJ and DBG. How many guys do you see on this site glorifying the good old days of cramming cancer in your mouth? How many guys that brag about the can in their pockets to show their bravado in the face of addiction?
Stranger is right, they aren't here. Want to know why? The guys and gals that make it here QLF every damn day. Before you can beat your addiction, you have to give into the addiction. See, no matter how bad ass you feel with that can in your pocket, you aren't because that can is in your pocket. You are if you stay quit. A lot of guys come in here thumping their chests with how they have it all figured out. It's natural, you're a guy. BUT, until you can look deep down inside you past all the emotional fronting and even further past your addiction, you'll never see what you're trying to recover.
The quitters that are truly successful know what they are trying to recover. They also know why they're trying to recover it, and finally they know that they will do ANYTHING (including listening to what they would likely consider blowhards babbling nonsense) to never go back to those darkest of days. In the words of Elsa, let it go. Until you surrender, you cannot win.
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I've had a can of dip in my pocket since I quit. The only way you beat something is head on. Getting rid of it from around you isn't beating anything. It's making something more difficult to get. If it's in your face all the time and you can ignore it and have the willpower to refuse, I'd call that beating something... Basically the same thing with being married and being loyal. There's always temptation, you just have to decide to either be a sheep or a sheepdog... If I refuse to give in with it right here beside me, I cannot and will not fail.
This goes in my top 5 of the dumbassiest things I've ever read on this site.
Dude... you are sooo not ready to quit. Addict speak is flowing out of you like puss.
Would you say it's smart for the quit alcoholic to carry around a flask? Would you say it's safe for a quit heroin addict to carry around some product and paraphernalia? Would you think it's pure brilliance for anyone, with any addiction, to carry around the object of their weakness?
Good grief, man... pull your head out.
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I won't bomb. I won't fail anything I try at. I'm successful. Deal with it... sounds like u bunch of pussies are the ones whining. I was merely stating what is the obvious. If you thought your little blabbing bullshit at me was going to do anything other than invoke a verbal lashing right back at ya, you are sorely mistaken. You don't like what I write? Skip it and talk to your boifriend who might care... I didn't get on here to type what you'd like to read, it's general chit chat and curiosity to pass the day when I'm at work. If that doesn't work, the admin can gladly delete my profile. If not, and we are here to write and talk without being harassed and for info about our quit, you naysayers best back off. 'Finger'
Rok
I'm here to tell you these guys know what they are talking about. The point is they are trying to get you to HATE dip and nicotine....it's the only way you can stay quit. If your thinking is still "love" "enjoy" it's just a matter of time before you are back fingering the can.
Each guy or gal may have a different approach, but I haven't found one person here who didn't have the quitters best interest in mind. The people you think are shitting down your throat are in reality doing what every addict needs. This isn't a habit it's an addiction . Period. I can also say with high confidence that each and every quitter commenting would take a bus for your quit...but only if you are fully committed as well.
Break free trust the process and get to saving your life.
DBG
I've had a can of dip in my pocket since I quit. The only way you beat something is head on. Getting rid of it from around you isn't beating anything. It's making something more difficult to get. If it's in your face all the time and you can ignore it and have the willpower to refuse, I'd call that beating something... Basically the same thing with being married and being loyal. There's always temptation, you just have to decide to either be a sheep or a sheepdog... If I refuse to give in with it right here beside me, I cannot and will not fail.
'trainwreck'
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You got a rock star band of quitters trying to help you, none who is less than a year quit, but you're gonna do it your way? This is the time for humility and learning. I was an angry quitter as well, but once I got the vemon out of my body I realized that those who quit before knew what they were talking about.
I like your anger, it means you are healing. Bring all you anger here and spew it at us. We have big shoulders, and believe it or not, we want you to quit. We not only hate dipping but hate all of Big Tobacco.
Happy New Year Rok.
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4 Pm my time Rok, you gonna post roll? I know a few quitters that can do it solo. I also have seen hundreds of caves...........and THOUSANDS of quits. The quitters post roll and never look back.
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I won't bomb. I won't fail anything I try at. I'm successful. Deal with it... sounds like u bunch of pussies are the ones whining. I was merely stating what is the obvious. If you thought your little blabbing bullshit at me was going to do anything other than invoke a verbal lashing right back at ya, you are sorely mistaken. You don't like what I write? Skip it and talk to your boifriend who might care... I didn't get on here to type what you'd like to read, it's general chit chat and curiosity to pass the day when I'm at work. If that doesn't work, the admin can gladly delete my profile. If not, and we are here to write and talk without being harassed and for info about our quit, you naysayers best back off. 'Finger'
Rok
I'm here to tell you these guys know what they are talking about. The point is they are trying to get you to HATE dip and nicotine....it's the only way you can stay quit. If your thinking is still "love" "enjoy" it's just a matter of time before you are back fingering the can.
Each guy or gal may have a different approach, but I haven't found one person here who didn't have the quitters best interest in mind. The people you think are shitting down your throat are in reality doing what every addict needs. This isn't a habit it's an addiction . Period. I can also say with high confidence that each and every quitter commenting would take a bus for your quit...but only if you are fully committed as well.
Break free trust the process and get to saving your life.
DBG
I've had a can of dip in my pocket since I quit. The only way you beat something is head on. Getting rid of it from around you isn't beating anything. It's making something more difficult to get. If it's in your face all the time and you can ignore it and have the willpower to refuse, I'd call that beating something... Basically the same thing with being married and being loyal. There's always temptation, you just have to decide to either be a sheep or a sheepdog... If I refuse to give in with it right here beside me, I cannot and will not fail.
'trainwreck'
Ahhhh....
The old trophy can.
Toss it man. Post roll. You don't need the stuff. Trust me. There's way more than 19 days quit that can be found here.
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Rok I would suggest you take a deep breath.
Then throw that stupid trophy can away before it becomes a cave can. Find your quit group and try posting roll like you've been asked, this is a brotherhood and part of that is posting roll, our daily promise to each other not to use today. Think about why you find it necessary to explain how committed and bad ass your quit is... show us by posting roll daily and keeping your promise. Put the ego aside and give in to what this site has to offer and you might find something special, your quit self.
Trust us, you're not a special snowflake we have seen guys like you come and go. These guys aren't picking on you, we all found what works here and we expect the same from our brothers. Just go and post roll man... you'll thank us later.
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The plan here really works. At first, it seems lame... Posting roll... One day at a time... Brotherhood... Accountability....
Anxiety is EXTREMELY common when quitting. Some don't have it. Some have almost crippling issues. If you need some meds to deal with it - get some. Even for a few weeks or months. But, one of the things that we hear so often at KTC is... One day at a time. See, we cannot fix our foolish decisions of yesterday. And we cannot worry about what tomorrow will bring. But we can own today.
If you are worried about sores or pain or whatever in your mouth, you aren't crazy. 2 of my closest contacts on this site - one a materials director for a major oil company and the other a pharmacist - were both utterly certain around day 50 that they had throat cancer. They both ended up paying on their own for various tests to confirm that they were fine. Jlud mentioned that you aren't a "special butterfly" and that we've seen and heard it all here. He is right.
My New Years wish is that you throw that trophy can away.
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Hey rock, you're going through the same shit that 90 percent of us did. Worrying about your mouth, throat,teeth and hell of the suns gonna shine today? Look at it like this all those year's we stuffed are face with poison, are jaw got sore or our lip got a sore we just put it on the other side till it healed. We didn't worry then, IMO this is a powerful tool the nic bitch uses to make you think if I take a pinch I will relax and be fine. That's bullshit, you know it as well as I do. What I finally did was listen to some of the vet's who listened to some of the vet's before them, relax enjoy your quit, worrying creates all kinds of problems. You're fine, your body is healing. Part of your foggy problems is concentrating if you're gonna live till tomorrow. Guess what, none of us know that answer. Enjoy your days free, one day at a time! Deep breaths really do work. I finally manned up and said wow I feel awesome and I really did! Your mind can play real tricks with your head. You being an engineer you know this! We're all here for you, no one's against you, most guys and gals here would do anything for you! Quit on and enjoy all your freedom, your son will thank you some day. Pm me if you want my number
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I appreciate the kind words. I don't mean to be douchy, but sometimes ya gotta try to not be abrasive. It's a rough enough process as I think we all know. I quit for a couple yrs before, this time is much worse. I can tell you with utmost certainty I will not cave in and get any nicotine. I'm still finding cans of chew and nic gum all over my house. I'm sure I will be for years. I truly believe not giving in is the only way to go. I also quit drinking at the same time. I didn't drink alot, but even the occasional sip is done for me for a few months. It's all a combination of what's causing my anxiety I'm sure. I feel like that other dude most of the time, but just holding my son seems to calm me. I sure hope my mouth finishes healing soon. That'll be one weight off my shoulders. I'm sure everyone knows the feeling.... why we started worrying about it after we quit is still the baffling part to me. But I'm surprised I have had a friggin heart attack yet...