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Title: A very difficult trip to the doctor...
Post by: TR66 on January 13, 2015, 05:27:00 AM
Hey everyone, my name is Tanner, I started chewing in August 2013, January 5th 2015 was my last day of dipping. I started with Grizzly Wintergreen pouches in the summer of 2013, two of my buddies had recently started, so one day we all were at a gas station and I bought a can for us to share. As soon as I put the first pouch in, I knew I was hooked. I felt my inhibitions dissappear, I was talking with a confidence I hadn't felt before, I was excited to try this new thing, I had drank heavily, smoked cigarettes in high school and messed around with other substances after graduation, none of it made me feel better than that first can of Grizzly. I continued to dip, even after my mom found a can in my jeans, my dad tried to get me to quit after seeing me chew one time(my parents are divorced, and speaking to my dad or even about him is a big stressor) my grandparents found spitters that I had left behind at their house, worst of all, my 6 year old cousin found a can and spitter, and tried to hide it, knowing it was mine and I would have been scolded. I switched Camel Snus briefly, simply because I wanted that nicotine buzz while working. I work in the music industry, I am a drum tech, I work long hours, around grumpy, bitter people, and I have to take a fair amount of crap from the older crew members, the majority of which are smokers, so dipping around them was a way of proving my equality...I know, how stupid, "I'm willing to get cancer just like you guys! See, I'm one of you! ". Copenhagen Mint, long cut ended up being my go to. AT LEAST a can a day for about 8 months, I always had two cans with me, especially at work. After the new year I went to the doctor for a simple visit for a bug I had picked up. The doc examined me and immediately got to the point, he informed me that I have Leukoplakia on the upper right side of my mouth. I walked out of the building, took my spitter and brand new cans and chucked them out of the window while driving. I haven't dipped, chewed, nothing, in 8 days. It's definitely taking a toll on me. The way I see it, I don't have a choice of relapse, it's either quit or fuel the cancer. Thank you for reading.
Title: Re: A very difficult trip to the doctor...
Post by: Steakbomb18 on January 13, 2015, 06:56:00 AM
Tough way to bring in the new year. Thank you for sharing that and congratulations on being 8 days quit, especially on your own. That is no easy feat. Read up my friend, there is lots to learn and a number of ways build your quit. Only way to do that, however, is to post your name on the April 2015 roll call. You see, we're an internet support group, and all we have is a person's word. That promise to say that you will not use nicotine in any form for that day. Posting roll is that signature. It's your promise or ...your word. We all post roll as well and dually we make that promise to ourselves and to this community.

As you continue to move beyond the fog and haze, things will become more clear, the further away you move from Day 1. You'll learn that you don't need nicotine to do any of that stuff you wrote about. Matter of fact, you'll enjoy life more without it. Freedom, freedom from that bitch we call nicotine...it's a beautiful thing.
Title: Re: A very difficult trip to the doctor...
Post by: Rawls on January 13, 2015, 11:40:00 AM
Great decision.. Now let's go to work.

Read 1-4 Here (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13)

Get to know men in your group, drink lots of water, and keep reading on here.
PM any of us with questions.

Post roll today.... If you can't figure it out I will help you.
Title: Re: A very difficult trip to the doctor...
Post by: pab1964 on January 13, 2015, 11:56:00 AM
Now let me ask you a question? How many dippers do you know that's waiting for the doctor to tell them they have cancer before there gonna decide to quit! I don't know any. See the nic bitch convinces us we gonna be just fine! It's either you haven't been dipping long enough to hurt anything or if nothings happened by now it ain't going to! 38 year addict on day 17 I quit with you my brother!
Title: Re: A very difficult trip to the doctor...
Post by: Grievous Angel on January 13, 2015, 11:59:00 AM
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he informed me that I have Leukoplakia on the upper right side of my mouth.
This should go away. If it served as a wake up call, good. Quit while you are young.

Keep an eye on your mouth and if it isn't gone in a week or so (and you're still not using), go back.
Title: Re: A very difficult trip to the doctor...
Post by: Rawls on January 13, 2015, 12:02:00 PM
Hey TR66 I'm NOT a doctor..... Just an old 50 year old addict trying to help another addict. I think you should go get another doctors opinion on this visit you had. I would also go see a dentist. And talk with them. I found this info on Internet.
"Leukoplakia appears as thick, white patches on your gums or on the insides of your cheeks. Although leukoplakia itself isn't dangerous, it sometimes shows precancerous changes that can lead to mouth cancer."
Cancer is a scary and real thing, my father in law has it and they have rebuilt his tongue with a muscle in his forearm.
Post Roll, get involved here, let us know how it is going and try and get another doctors appointment.
Title: Re: A very difficult trip to the doctor...
Post by: Idaho Spuds on January 13, 2015, 07:50:00 PM
That is scary stuff. Have you been to the dentist recently. If not make an appointment and they can refer you if needed.
Quit each day, post roll, repeat!
Title: Re: A very difficult trip to the doctor...
Post by: Jeff W. on January 13, 2015, 09:32:00 PM
Hey TR66 - that's a scary event. I hope everything turns out for you and this is just a shitty wake-up call. I'm a 34 year user on Day 3, and I'm here to stand and quit with you. If you want to exchange numbers so we can support each other through tough times, shoot me a PM.

Do roll call religiously! I am finding my daily promise to this community to be the single biggest thing each day that enforces my desire to stay quit.
Title: Re: A very difficult trip to the doctor...
Post by: Scowick65 on January 14, 2015, 10:01:00 AM
Hi Tanner,

I noticed that you wrote your post yesterday morning at 6:00 am and then logged back in late in the afternoon. Thanks for posting. I guess you are scarred? I don't know how you feel but I know I would be scared. So, I suppose you read all of the great responses that quitters took the time to write, yet you did not choose to post roll. Why not? Ponder that for a moment....

"As soon as I put the first pouch in, I knew I was hooked.

I switched Camel Snus briefly, simply because I wanted that nicotine buzz while working.

I always had two cans with me, especially at work".

I am going to lay it on the line for you. You have more than a medical issue. You have an addiction issue. Addictions don't go away. They last a lifetime. I should know, I am addicted to nicotine.

You best post roll and start quitting next time you log in. Getting empathy from people who are actually quitting will get you nada.

So, back to the point. So, I suppose you read all of the great responses that quitters took the time to write, yet you did not choose to post roll. Why not? Ponder that for a moment....
Title: Re: A very difficult trip to the doctor...
Post by: Scowick65 on January 15, 2015, 08:01:00 AM
Quote from: Scowick65
Hi Tanner,

I noticed that you wrote your post yesterday morning at 6:00 am and then logged back in late in the afternoon. Thanks for posting. I guess you are scarred? I don't know how you feel but I know I would be scared. So, I suppose you read all of the great responses that quitters took the time to write, yet you did not choose to post roll. Why not? Ponder that for a moment....

"As soon as I put the first pouch in, I knew I was hooked.

I switched Camel Snus briefly, simply because I wanted that nicotine buzz while working.

I always had two cans with me, especially at work".

I am going to lay it on the line for you. You have more than a medical issue. You have an addiction issue. Addictions don't go away. They last a lifetime. I should know, I am addicted to nicotine.

You best post roll and start quitting next time you log in. Getting empathy from people who are actually quitting will get you nada.

So, back to the point. So, I suppose you read all of the great responses that quitters took the time to write, yet you did not choose to post roll. Why not? Ponder that for a moment....
Still checking in, still not posting roll....
Title: Re: A very difficult trip to the doctor...
Post by: NoMoreCopeBlack on January 15, 2015, 10:48:00 AM
You knew you were developing that leukoplakia and you kept dipping. I know you knew, I did it too. Doctor's words won't make you quit. Quitting makes you quit. You can rule your own life and you don't need to feel this way anymore.
Title: Re: A very difficult trip to the doctor...
Post by: CastleHusky on January 15, 2015, 04:55:00 PM
You find yourself amongst like company here. Many of us found KTC due to cancer scares and fear. All of us knew at some point during our addiction that what we were doing could lead down that road and continued to dip anyway. We're all idiots and we all figured it out, that's the important thing; you figured it out.

There's no need to lament about the actions we made in the past because we can not change them, but rather we need to celebrate the decisions we are making now. So I celebrate with you your choice to cut that shit out of your life for good.

If you have concerns about what you're going through and what to expect, don't be afraid to reach out. There are enough people in this community that at least one will have had the same experiences and can offer insight; it would be silly not to take advantage of that.

Welcome to KTC, TR.
Title: Re: A very difficult trip to the doctor...
Post by: TR66 on January 16, 2015, 12:03:00 AM
Ok guys, I'm here. Still 11 days quit. I'm scared right now. I'm at work, no one else is around, I know there is one dip left in a can in my toolbox right here. I REALLY want it, I'm shaking just thinking about it. Fuc#!!#
Title: Re: A very difficult trip to the doctor...
Post by: TR66 on January 16, 2015, 12:07:00 AM
I'm not looking for sympathy, I honestly didn't reply because I don't have a clue what to say! I'll post roll, if somebody can show me which category I can find it in. I'm trying my hardest here
Title: Re: A very difficult trip to the doctor...
Post by: erick on January 16, 2015, 12:17:00 AM
Tanner dont do it...grab the can and dump that shit out bro so you dont have anymore around you
Title: Re: A very difficult trip to the doctor...
Post by: Idaho Spuds on January 16, 2015, 01:46:00 AM
Quote from: TR66
I'm not looking for sympathy, I honestly didn't reply because I don't have a clue what to say! I'll post roll, if somebody can show me which category I can find it in. I'm trying my hardest here
Go to welcome center, then go to quit groups April 2015. Post away. And that chew and nicotine wont help anything, just tickle the cancer cells more....
Title: Re: A very difficult trip to the doctor...
Post by: Jerk11 on January 16, 2015, 01:50:00 AM
Flush all nicotine around you, TR. Please. I'm on Day 12 now and it will affect me if you cave right now. You've been suffering the last 11 days-- why give in now? It will start to get much better. Please trust me. PM me if you need to talk.

Jerk11 (Joe)
Title: Re: A very difficult trip to the doctor...
Post by: Rawls on January 16, 2015, 09:18:00 AM
Praying you made it through last night... Here is how you post roll.

Go to Community... Find "Quit Groups"
Go to bottom of page and you will be in April 2015. Go to the last page of posting.. Highest number. Then:

Instructions for posting roll:
1. Quote the LATEST roll post. (Refresh the page immediately before posting)
2. Left click the bottom box. (Long click on smart phones)
3. Ctrl + A (Select ALL – this looks like a four-pane window icon on smart phones)
4. Ctrl + X (Cut with Scissors icon – NOT Copy)
5. Left click in the top box.
6. Ctrl +V (Paste)
7. Add your name and number of days to the BOTTOM of the New Quitters section.

After you post roll come back here to your introduction page and give us an update. This is your page to say what ever is on your mind and vent with whatever emotions you are experiencing. This is where we can help you with the Suck..... One small step at a time. It gets better every second. A ton of people here to help you fight through this and quit.
Title: Re: A very difficult trip to the doctor...
Post by: Scowick65 on January 16, 2015, 11:25:00 AM
Quote from: Rawls
Praying you made it through last night... Here is how you post roll.

Go to Community... Find "Quit Groups"
Go to bottom of page and you will be in April 2015. Go to the last page of posting.. Highest number. Then:

Instructions for posting roll:
1. Quote the LATEST roll post. (Refresh the page immediately before posting)
2. Left click the bottom box. (Long click on smart phones)
3. Ctrl + A (Select ALL – this looks like a four-pane window icon on smart phones)
4. Ctrl + X (Cut with Scissors icon – NOT Copy)
5. Left click in the top box.
6. Ctrl +V (Paste)
7. Add your name and number of days to the BOTTOM of the New Quitters section.

After you post roll come back here to your introduction page and give us an update. This is your page to say what ever is on your mind and vent with whatever emotions you are experiencing. This is where we can help you with the Suck..... One small step at a time. It gets better every second. A ton of people here to help you fight through this and quit.
^^^^^ Bingo.

Here is the link to his instructions forum/55560/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55560/)

Here is the link to the April 2015 quit group. This is the quit group for quitters that have 12 days. topic/10847546/391/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10847546/391/)

Join me please. Thanks for writing and letting us know what is going on.