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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: UH60Chief107 on June 05, 2014, 05:21:00 AM
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Hello everyone.
First and foremost, thank you for this awesome site. I have a feeling it is going to provide a huge help to me as it has already done to others. I will tell my story and try to make it as brief as possible.
I am 26 years old and have been dipping since I was 15. I grew up in the sticks of Tennessee so dipping was pretty much a cultural "norm". I dipped a can a day up until the day I left for basic training at the age of 21. I didn't have time to think about nicotine during basic so it was really quite easy to stop. But, after 8 weeks I got out of basic training and went right back to dipping a can a day.
Fast forward to 6 months ago, January 1st, 2014. Typical addict story, my new year's resolution was to quit dipping. I did all the normal stuff that addicts do, even though I told myself and others around me "I can quit any time I want, I just enjoy it!", wow what a joke. I had never tried to quit before and thought it wouldn't be too bad. I think it was day 3 that I finally hit that mode where, no shit, I was going to punch the next person that looked at me funny. Eventually the rage passed and I was fine. My wife was proud of me when I hit day 30 because she thought I had kicked the habit for good, heck I thought so too.
I made it to 120 days, then that little devil crept up on my shoulder and said "see, you CAN quit any time you want, so why not treat yourself to just one dip?". It started with bumming a dip off of a friend, then next thing you know, I am full blown doing a can a day. The worst part is, I didn't have the intestinal fortitude to tell my wife. She was so proud of me because she knew how hard it was to quit. Then I started sneaking around to get my fix. Staying up late after my wife goes to bed to "watch tv" just to sneak a dip in. Suddenly realizing there was something in the basement that I needed to do, just to go sit in a lawn chair in the dark for 30 minutes to get some nicotine. Having a sudden emergency that required items from the gas station, just so I could have enough dip to supply me through the evening. This routine has been going on for a couple months now. I am ashamed for giving up and going back to it. That brings me to the present day.
I went off to work like any other day this morning(I am stationed in Germany, so my morning is your night for all the US folks). I got a text from my wife that sent anger, frustration, disappointment, and every other emotion in between flooding through my mind. It read "So, still dipping?". Did she know I started again? I have hidden my tracks so well, how could she? Did one of my friends tell her???? At this point, I called her and said, why would you ask that? She said, "You can be honest with me. I found an empty can in the basement that was obviously fresh. I am disappointed you started again, but for god's sake, dont hide it from me." I felt so ashamed, disppointed, and weak. This wasn't just a bad habit, it was a full blown addiction. I thought I had quit, but I didn't know the meaning of QUIT until today. Sure, I stopped for a while, but after reading a lot of stories on this site, I want to QUIT FOREVER.
I couldn't do it on my own, and I think that is mainly because I had no support from people that knew what I was going through. None of my friends want to quit dipping and my wife doesn't use nicotine so she cannot understand the pain and frustration of quitting. That is what brought me to this site. I hope I can learn from you all and have a good group of support to help me on this journey. I also hope that one day I can provide the same inspiration to another person that takes on the same fight to kick this addiction's ass.
-UH60Chief
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Well, now you know... There is no just one. I bet you are pissed that you threw that many days away. But here is the thing... You weren't ready then. You weren't quit then.
You are quit now.
This process is really simple to understand. Wake up and immediately post roll in your group. That is your promise to yourself and everyone on this site that for today you will not use nicotine. Just for today, you give your word. Now, if your word isn't worth a shit or you are a sociopath, this plan will not work. But if you are a man of your word, and from reading your intro I believe that you are, then you can do anything for a day. Then repeat tomorrow.
First thing in the morning is key. Get your name on the roll before the bathroom break, the coffee, anything. Make this your ritual. And when you wanna punch someone get on the site and take it out on us. We will take your shit all day long. Your family doesn't understand or deserve the rage so direct it here. We get it.
This process is easy and non negotiable. You can do this. One day at a time.
If I can help let me know. Welcome aboard.
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Thank you for the kind words WorkTowin.
I am reading all about how to post roll call at the moment. The only concern I have is that due to my job I have to leave on short notice to remote locations. For operational security reasons, the length of time of these missions are not allowed to be "leaked". I am not sure if there is maybe an admin over the quit groups that I could shoot a message to if I am going to be out for a while so nobody worries that I am falling off again.
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UH60, in cases like that you need to get a few phone digits and text some folks to help you post roll. I'll send you mine so you have some, but get more from your quit group.
Stopping chew for a few days, restarting, and hiding it from your wife.........I only did that 8 or 9 times, so much so that every time that I announced that "I quit" to her she just rolled her eyes. I am 63 days quit and do not have her trust, and rightfully so. We are addicts, and without support and quitting every day we will be doomed to repeat our addiction.
Hang tough for the next few days, and stay close to this site.
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Hello everyone.
First and foremost, thank you for this awesome site. I have a feeling it is going to provide a huge help to me as it has already done to others. I will tell my story and try to make it as brief as possible.
I am 26 years old and have been dipping since I was 15. I grew up in the sticks of Tennessee so dipping was pretty much a cultural "norm". I dipped a can a day up until the day I left for basic training at the age of 21. I didn't have time to think about nicotine during basic so it was really quite easy to stop. But, after 8 weeks I got out of basic training and went right back to dipping a can a day.
Fast forward to 6 months ago, January 1st, 2014. Typical addict story, my new year's resolution was to quit dipping. I did all the normal stuff that addicts do, even though I told myself and others around me "I can quit any time I want, I just enjoy it!", wow what a joke. I had never tried to quit before and thought it wouldn't be too bad. I think it was day 3 that I finally hit that mode where, no shit, I was going to punch the next person that looked at me funny. Eventually the rage passed and I was fine. My wife was proud of me when I hit day 30 because she thought I had kicked the habit for good, heck I thought so too.
I made it to 120 days, then that little devil crept up on my shoulder and said "see, you CAN quit any time you want, so why not treat yourself to just one dip?". It started with bumming a dip off of a friend, then next thing you know, I am full blown doing a can a day. The worst part is, I didn't have the intestinal fortitude to tell my wife. She was so proud of me because she knew how hard it was to quit. Then I started sneaking around to get my fix. Staying up late after my wife goes to bed to "watch tv" just to sneak a dip in. Suddenly realizing there was something in the basement that I needed to do, just to go sit in a lawn chair in the dark for 30 minutes to get some nicotine. Having a sudden emergency that required items from the gas station, just so I could have enough dip to supply me through the evening. This routine has been going on for a couple months now. I am ashamed for giving up and going back to it. That brings me to the present day.
I went off to work like any other day this morning(I am stationed in Germany, so my morning is your night for all the US folks). I got a text from my wife that sent anger, frustration, disappointment, and every other emotion in between flooding through my mind. It read "So, still dipping?". Did she know I started again? I have hidden my tracks so well, how could she? Did one of my friends tell her???? At this point, I called her and said, why would you ask that? She said, "You can be honest with me. I found an empty can in the basement that was obviously fresh. I am disappointed you started again, but for god's sake, dont hide it from me." I felt so ashamed, disppointed, and weak. This wasn't just a bad habit, it was a full blown addiction. I thought I had quit, but I didn't know the meaning of QUIT until today. Sure, I stopped for a while, but after reading a lot of stories on this site, I want to QUIT FOREVER.
I couldn't do it on my own, and I think that is mainly because I had no support from people that knew what I was going through. None of my friends want to quit dipping and my wife doesn't use nicotine so she cannot understand the pain and frustration of quitting. That is what brought me to this site. I hope I can learn from you all and have a good group of support to help me on this journey. I also hope that one day I can provide the same inspiration to another person that takes on the same fight to kick this addiction's ass.
-UH60Chief
Welcome aboard Chief I guess you learned what every one of us has learned. You may be an ex dipper but you can not be an ex addict. Regardless of how many days you stay quit you will have zero days unaddicted. (Not reaslly sure if that is a word but you get what I mean) Having been on a quit recently you know what you will be going through mentally over the next ferw months, but here at KTC you have to quit differently. You make a promise to quit today...not for a week a month or for life one day. That promise is made by posting roll, if you feel the need to crack you have to convince 3 other KTC guys that it is ok to go back. Sounds simple but following those two steps,...no one has ever caved. Good luck to you, this is all a mental game. for whatever reason your brain is convinced that the best thing for you is to put a weed in your mouth, you need to rewire your brain to understand how fucking stupid that is. Good luck.
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Sound advice already given. Keep reading KTC and get yourself a plan for when you are craving, and a plan for when you cannot post roll. PM me if you need anything.
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Sound advice already given. Keep reading KTC and get yourself a plan for when you are craving, and a plan for when you cannot post roll. PM me if you need anything.
Chief, Congrats on your quit. Be honest to your new found brothers here. We quit one day at a time, Every day!! and we quit for life. Tell your wife what you are doing, we have an area for spouses. Spousal support is very helpful and it helps if she understands what you are going through... My spouse knows almost as much about KTC as I do. Post roll and be accountable every day. PM for # . Lean on the vets and others to get you through the rough spots. Never let your guard down The Nic. Bitch is a nasty whore that will have you suckling her teat before you know it. I know this sounds strange but, Mentally make your quit the most important thing in your life... Be offended at UST because if you have not figured this out yet... You are addicted for life my friend , just like the rest of us. It will get better for sure but you are an addict and will remain an addict until you die...................................... Emulator
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Sound advice already given. Keep reading KTC and get yourself a plan for when you are craving, and a plan for when you cannot post roll. PM me if you need anything.
Chief, Congrats on your quit. Be honest to your new found brothers here. We quit one day at a time, Every day!! and we quit for life. Tell your wife what you are doing, we have an area for spouses. Spousal support is very helpful and it helps if she understands what you are going through... My spouse knows almost as much about KTC as I do. Post roll and be accountable every day. PM for # . Lean on the vets and others to get you through the rough spots. Never let your guard down The Nic. Bitch is a nasty whore that will have you suckling her teat before you know it. I know this sounds strange but, Mentally make your quit the most important thing in your life... Be offended at UST because if you have not figured this out yet... You are addicted for life my friend , just like the rest of us. It will get better for sure but you are an addict and will remain an addict until you die...................................... Emulator
Thanks for your service. You have come to the right place. Read all over this site, lots of wisdom scattered about. Get some phone #s. Get heavily involved in your September group. Stop by Chat and say hello. We're here for you, Quit Like Fuck!
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Sound advice already given. Keep reading KTC and get yourself a plan for when you are craving, and a plan for when you cannot post roll. PM me if you need anything.
Chief, Congrats on your quit. Be honest to your new found brothers here. We quit one day at a time, Every day!! and we quit for life. Tell your wife what you are doing, we have an area for spouses. Spousal support is very helpful and it helps if she understands what you are going through... My spouse knows almost as much about KTC as I do. Post roll and be accountable every day. PM for # . Lean on the vets and others to get you through the rough spots. Never let your guard down The Nic. Bitch is a nasty whore that will have you suckling her teat before you know it. I know this sounds strange but, Mentally make your quit the most important thing in your life... Be offended at UST because if you have not figured this out yet... You are addicted for life my friend , just like the rest of us. It will get better for sure but you are an addict and will remain an addict until you die...................................... Emulator
Thanks for your service. You have come to the right place. Read all over this site, lots of wisdom scattered about. Get some phone #s. Get heavily involved in your September group. Stop by Chat and say hello. We're here for you, Quit Like Fuck!
Welcome aboard!!! Thank you for your service! Good advice given. Posting roll is a sacred duty here...every damn day.... If for work reasons, you need to let folks in your group know ASAP...via text, post, pm.... You can do this.... Read my intro if you wanna know my story. PM me anytime and try out the chatroom!
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Welcome. Reach out to people here and build your accountability network. Send me a PM if you need another number. It really does help to have someone you can text who knows what you're going through. As far as your time difference, I work EMS so I'm up at odd hours if it'll help.
This forum and the people on it are only as helpful as you allow them to be. Get involved. Post roll every damn day and stick to your word. Focus on today. Don't focus on being quit for her rest of your life. That can seem insurmountable. One day? Anyone can quit something for one day. So do it. And then tomorrow you can do it again.
Glad to have you with us.
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First off, thanks for serving. Secondly, welcome. You are among a select group of people that realize how bad nicotine is for you and quitting is the only option.
You are gonna get a shitload of advice. All I can say is read it all.
The rules are simple:
Post Roll Daily
Honor your word
Be active on here
You will only get out of this what you put in.
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Thanks for the words of advice and support from everyone.
I am almost finished with Day 1 over here in Germany. I had quite a few cravings but nothing that wasn't manageable. I definitely felt myself beginning to enter the fog around 18:00(CEST). I was in a german bakery ordering some food and it was as if the filter between my thoughts and brain had been removed. After about 30 seconds of scanning the food behind the glass and glancing at the other customers, I realized that everything I had been thinking was actually being said out loud. At first I started to get embarrassed, then mad, but all I could do was step back and just laugh uncontrollably at how crazy nicotine was making my brain. I am trying to keep myself in a positive mood so I can blast through this first week.
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Hello everyone.
First and foremost, thank you for this awesome site. I have a feeling it is going to provide a huge help to me as it has already done to others. I will tell my story and try to make it as brief as possible.
I am 26 years old and have been dipping since I was 15. I grew up in the sticks of Tennessee so dipping was pretty much a cultural "norm". I dipped a can a day up until the day I left for basic training at the age of 21. I didn't have time to think about nicotine during basic so it was really quite easy to stop. But, after 8 weeks I got out of basic training and went right back to dipping a can a day.
Fast forward to 6 months ago, January 1st, 2014. Typical addict story, my new year's resolution was to quit dipping. I did all the normal stuff that addicts do, even though I told myself and others around me "I can quit any time I want, I just enjoy it!", wow what a joke. I had never tried to quit before and thought it wouldn't be too bad. I think it was day 3 that I finally hit that mode where, no shit, I was going to punch the next person that looked at me funny. Eventually the rage passed and I was fine. My wife was proud of me when I hit day 30 because she thought I had kicked the habit for good, heck I thought so too.
I made it to 120 days, then that little devil crept up on my shoulder and said "see, you CAN quit any time you want, so why not treat yourself to just one dip?". It started with bumming a dip off of a friend, then next thing you know, I am full blown doing a can a day. The worst part is, I didn't have the intestinal fortitude to tell my wife. She was so proud of me because she knew how hard it was to quit. Then I started sneaking around to get my fix. Staying up late after my wife goes to bed to "watch tv" just to sneak a dip in. Suddenly realizing there was something in the basement that I needed to do, just to go sit in a lawn chair in the dark for 30 minutes to get some nicotine. Having a sudden emergency that required items from the gas station, just so I could have enough dip to supply me through the evening. This routine has been going on for a couple months now. I am ashamed for giving up and going back to it. That brings me to the present day.
I went off to work like any other day this morning(I am stationed in Germany, so my morning is your night for all the US folks). I got a text from my wife that sent anger, frustration, disappointment, and every other emotion in between flooding through my mind. It read "So, still dipping?". Did she know I started again? I have hidden my tracks so well, how could she? Did one of my friends tell her???? At this point, I called her and said, why would you ask that? She said, "You can be honest with me. I found an empty can in the basement that was obviously fresh. I am disappointed you started again, but for god's sake, dont hide it from me." I felt so ashamed, disppointed, and weak. This wasn't just a bad habit, it was a full blown addiction. I thought I had quit, but I didn't know the meaning of QUIT until today. Sure, I stopped for a while, but after reading a lot of stories on this site, I want to QUIT FOREVER.
I couldn't do it on my own, and I think that is mainly because I had no support from people that knew what I was going through. None of my friends want to quit dipping and my wife doesn't use nicotine so she cannot understand the pain and frustration of quitting. That is what brought me to this site. I hope I can learn from you all and have a good group of support to help me on this journey. I also hope that one day I can provide the same inspiration to another person that takes on the same fight to kick this addiction's ass.
-UH60Chief
It's like looking in a mirror. Most of us have been there. Nic is a sneaky little bastard. But you are here now. You will NOT fail again. You can do this. No more excuses. No more caving. You will find all the support you need here. Have the guts to find your strength. Reach out if you need ANYTHING.
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Hello everyone.
First and foremost, thank you for this awesome site. I have a feeling it is going to provide a huge help to me as it has already done to others. I will tell my story and try to make it as brief as possible.
I am 26 years old and have been dipping since I was 15. I grew up in the sticks of Tennessee so dipping was pretty much a cultural "norm". I dipped a can a day up until the day I left for basic training at the age of 21. I didn't have time to think about nicotine during basic so it was really quite easy to stop. But, after 8 weeks I got out of basic training and went right back to dipping a can a day.
Fast forward to 6 months ago, January 1st, 2014. Typical addict story, my new year's resolution was to quit dipping. I did all the normal stuff that addicts do, even though I told myself and others around me "I can quit any time I want, I just enjoy it!", wow what a joke. I had never tried to quit before and thought it wouldn't be too bad. I think it was day 3 that I finally hit that mode where, no shit, I was going to punch the next person that looked at me funny. Eventually the rage passed and I was fine. My wife was proud of me when I hit day 30 because she thought I had kicked the habit for good, heck I thought so too.
I made it to 120 days, then that little devil crept up on my shoulder and said "see, you CAN quit any time you want, so why not treat yourself to just one dip?". It started with bumming a dip off of a friend, then next thing you know, I am full blown doing a can a day. The worst part is, I didn't have the intestinal fortitude to tell my wife. She was so proud of me because she knew how hard it was to quit. Then I started sneaking around to get my fix. Staying up late after my wife goes to bed to "watch tv" just to sneak a dip in. Suddenly realizing there was something in the basement that I needed to do, just to go sit in a lawn chair in the dark for 30 minutes to get some nicotine. Having a sudden emergency that required items from the gas station, just so I could have enough dip to supply me through the evening. This routine has been going on for a couple months now. I am ashamed for giving up and going back to it. That brings me to the present day.
I went off to work like any other day this morning(I am stationed in Germany, so my morning is your night for all the US folks). I got a text from my wife that sent anger, frustration, disappointment, and every other emotion in between flooding through my mind. It read "So, still dipping?". Did she know I started again? I have hidden my tracks so well, how could she? Did one of my friends tell her???? At this point, I called her and said, why would you ask that? She said, "You can be honest with me. I found an empty can in the basement that was obviously fresh. I am disappointed you started again, but for god's sake, dont hide it from me." I felt so ashamed, disppointed, and weak. This wasn't just a bad habit, it was a full blown addiction. I thought I had quit, but I didn't know the meaning of QUIT until today. Sure, I stopped for a while, but after reading a lot of stories on this site, I want to QUIT FOREVER.
I couldn't do it on my own, and I think that is mainly because I had no support from people that knew what I was going through. None of my friends want to quit dipping and my wife doesn't use nicotine so she cannot understand the pain and frustration of quitting. That is what brought me to this site. I hope I can learn from you all and have a good group of support to help me on this journey. I also hope that one day I can provide the same inspiration to another person that takes on the same fight to kick this addiction's ass.
-UH60Chief
It's like looking in a mirror. Most of us have been there. Nic is a sneaky little bastard. But you are here now. You will NOT fail again. You can do this. No more excuses. No more caving. You will find all the support you need here. Have the guts to find your strength. Reach out if you need ANYTHING.
Ditto....and BOOM baby. Well put Sporty
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Thanks for the words of advice and support from everyone.
I am almost finished with Day 1 over here in Germany. I had quite a few cravings but nothing that wasn't manageable. I definitely felt myself beginning to enter the fog around 18:00(CEST). I was in a german bakery ordering some food and it was as if the filter between my thoughts and brain had been removed. After about 30 seconds of scanning the food behind the glass and glancing at the other customers, I realized that everything I had been thinking was actually being said out loud. At first I started to get embarrassed, then mad, but all I could do was step back and just laugh uncontrollably at how crazy nicotine was making my brain. I am trying to keep myself in a positive mood so I can blast through this first week.
It may well be that the only positive you can find for the next couple of the days is that you never will have to go through this again, as long as you stay quit. My coworkers will be really pissed if I cave, because they have put up with my early stoppage crankiness time and time again. You are so fortunate to have found the tools you will need in this battle. It also sounds like you have a great wife. I bet she will enjoy this site as well.
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Thanks for the words of advice and support from everyone.
I am almost finished with Day 1 over here in Germany. I had quite a few cravings but nothing that wasn't manageable. I definitely felt myself beginning to enter the fog around 18:00(CEST). I was in a german bakery ordering some food and it was as if the filter between my thoughts and brain had been removed. After about 30 seconds of scanning the food behind the glass and glancing at the other customers, I realized that everything I had been thinking was actually being said out loud. At first I started to get embarrassed, then mad, but all I could do was step back and just laugh uncontrollably at how crazy nicotine was making my brain. I am trying to keep myself in a positive mood so I can blast through this first week.
It may well be that the only positive you can find for the next couple of the days is that you never will have to go through this again, as long as you stay quit. My coworkers will be really pissed if I cave, because they have put up with my early stoppage crankiness time and time again. You are so fortunate to have found the tools you will need in this battle. It also sounds like you have a great wife. I bet she will enjoy this site as well.
It may be too early in your quit to start dealing with wife jokes, but I'm going to anyway: "He does have a great wife, check out that pink tie she got me in my avatar." 'boob' 'oh yeah'
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It may be too early in your quit to start dealing with wife jokes, but I'm going to anyway: "He does have a great wife, check out that pink tie she got me in my avatar." 'boob' 'oh yeah'
Haha, I am in the Army so I have heard some of the most disturbing "jokes". I am not phased by that type of stuff :P
Just started Day 2 about 30 minutes ago. I definitely woke up in the fog. Today is my first day of vacation and I am heading to the beach. I am pretty excited about that which seems to be curbing my crave. Hopefully being at the beach will calm my quit nerves too. The other positive, Germany does not sell dip or any kind of chewing tobacco. The only place you can get it is on the American military bases, which there are none where I am going on vacation. So, I physically do not have the means to dip for 10 days so that makes the struggle a little easier.
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Just started Day 2 about 30 minutes ago. I definitely woke up in the fog. Today is my first day of vacation and I am heading to the beach. I am pretty excited about that which seems to be curbing my crave. Hopefully being at the beach will calm my quit nerves too. The other positive, Germany does not sell dip or any kind of chewing tobacco. The only place you can get it is on the American military bases, which there are none where I am going on vacation. So, I physically do not have the means to dip for 10 days so that makes the struggle a little easier.
If you don't need fake dip, great, but it has been a great crutch for me so far in my quit.
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Just started Day 2 about 30 minutes ago. I definitely woke up in the fog. Today is my first day of vacation and I am heading to the beach. I am pretty excited about that which seems to be curbing my crave. Hopefully being at the beach will calm my quit nerves too. The other positive, Germany does not sell dip or any kind of chewing tobacco. The only place you can get it is on the American military bases, which there are none where I am going on vacation. So, I physically do not have the means to dip for 10 days so that makes the struggle a little easier.
If you don't need fake dip, great, but it has been a great crutch for me so far in my quit.
I am going to check at the store on my base to see if they have the fake dip. I think I remember seeing a brand called smokey mountain or something to that effect. I will bring some just in case I start going nuts.
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Just started Day 2 about 30 minutes ago. I definitely woke up in the fog. Today is my first day of vacation and I am heading to the beach. I am pretty excited about that which seems to be curbing my crave. Hopefully being at the beach will calm my quit nerves too. The other positive, Germany does not sell dip or any kind of chewing tobacco. The only place you can get it is on the American military bases, which there are none where I am going on vacation. So, I physically do not have the means to dip for 10 days so that makes the struggle a little easier.
If you don't need fake dip, great, but it has been a great crutch for me so far in my quit.
I am going to check at the store on my base to see if they have the fake dip. I think I remember seeing a brand called smokey mountain or something to that effect. I will bring some just in case I start going nuts.
Chief....I'm enjoying reading your posts. You are bringing a great steady attitude to your quit. Keep grinding.
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I hope you guys don't mind, but I am basically going to use this almost like my journal. That way I can go back and see what I was feeling and maybe someone else is feeling the same thing and it helps to know you can make it.
My day 2 is half way over. By now, I have a headache that feels like the left side of my head might explode at any time. My brain is craving a dip so bad that my gums are literally aching. My wife just isn't understanding why I am in a bad mood which makes things even worse. I had to leave the house for a while just so I wouldn't go off on her. She didn't do anything wrong so she doesn't deserve to be the brunt of my anger. I forgot how much the first few days SUCK. I keep having waves of happiness and anger all the while being stuck in the fog.
I am finding strength in thinking about how fucked up the chemical make-up in my brain is right now because I was addicted to nicotine. If it hurts this bad to quit, that stuff doesn't need to be back in my body EVER again. It feels great to know I am doing such a good thing for myself. If I remember correctly, the last time I stopped it was around day 3 or 4 that I started getting hot flashes and what felt like needles poking all over me. I can't wait for that to hit 'Crazy' This day is on the down slope, I will make it through day 2 with no nicotine 'oh yeah'
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Just started Day 2 about 30 minutes ago. I definitely woke up in the fog. Today is my first day of vacation and I am heading to the beach. I am pretty excited about that which seems to be curbing my crave. Hopefully being at the beach will calm my quit nerves too. The other positive, Germany does not sell dip or any kind of chewing tobacco. The only place you can get it is on the American military bases, which there are none where I am going on vacation. So, I physically do not have the means to dip for 10 days so that makes the struggle a little easier.
If you don't need fake dip, great, but it has been a great crutch for me so far in my quit.
I am going to check at the store on my base to see if they have the fake dip. I think I remember seeing a brand called smokey mountain or something to that effect. I will bring some just in case I start going nuts.
Chief....I'm enjoying reading your posts. You are bringing a great steady attitude to your quit. Keep grinding.
How can you not like a guy who's on Day 2 in the service in Germany that posts at 1:20 ET where's my new roll? I'm ready to commit...
Chief - Hang in there today, you got this. Enjoy the beach.
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I hope you guys don't mind, but I am basically going to use this almost like my journal. That way I can go back and see what I was feeling and maybe someone else is feeling the same thing and it helps to know you can make it.
My day 2 is half way over. By now, I have a headache that feels like the left side of my head might explode at any time. My brain is craving a dip so bad that my gums are literally aching. My wife just isn't understanding why I am in a bad mood which makes things even worse. I had to leave the house for a while just so I wouldn't go off on her. She didn't do anything wrong so she doesn't deserve to be the brunt of my anger. I forgot how much the first few days SUCK. I keep having waves of happiness and anger all the while being stuck in the fog.
I am finding strength in thinking about how fucked up the chemical make-up in my brain is right now because I was addicted to nicotine. If it hurts this bad to quit, that stuff doesn't need to be back in my body EVER again. It feels great to know I am doing such a good thing for myself. If I remember correctly, the last time I stopped it was around day 3 or 4 that I started getting hot flashes and what felt like needles poking all over me. I can't wait for that to hit 'Crazy' This day is on the down slope, I will make it through day 2 with no nicotine 'oh yeah'
Awesome post. Don't apologize, that's what the intros are intended for. That way when you're having a crave on day 70, you can look back and see how far you've come and why you never ever wanna go back. Have a good vacation Chief, and keep quitting like a BAMF. I'm quit with you today.
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I hope you guys don't mind, but I am basically going to use this almost like my journal. That way I can go back and see what I was feeling and maybe someone else is feeling the same thing and it helps to know you can make it.
My day 2 is half way over. By now, I have a headache that feels like the left side of my head might explode at any time. My brain is craving a dip so bad that my gums are literally aching. My wife just isn't understanding why I am in a bad mood which makes things even worse. I had to leave the house for a while just so I wouldn't go off on her. She didn't do anything wrong so she doesn't deserve to be the brunt of my anger. I forgot how much the first few days SUCK. I keep having waves of happiness and anger all the while being stuck in the fog.
I am finding strength in thinking about how fucked up the chemical make-up in my brain is right now because I was addicted to nicotine. If it hurts this bad to quit, that stuff doesn't need to be back in my body EVER again. It feels great to know I am doing such a good thing for myself. If I remember correctly, the last time I stopped it was around day 3 or 4 that I started getting hot flashes and what felt like needles poking all over me. I can't wait for that to hit 'Crazy' This day is on the down slope, I will make it through day 2 with no nicotine 'oh yeah'
Chief, your intro is supposed to be a journal of your quit. Remember these first days of your quit. You will never want to be day 1 again. Also read through lots of intros and see the common things and timing of the stages of quit.
Keep drinking lots of water, and get some exercise to burn off that rage. You wouldn't be the first KTC member to have a crazy rage rant on their intro either, that is also what it's for.
Fake dip should be in your arsenal of quit. Really helps take the edge off in the early days, and even though I can't remember the last time I used any I still keep some on hand.
So since you cannot physically get any poison just enjoy your vacation.
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It is Saturday morning here and im on day 3. I feel good. The fog doesnt seem as bad today. Ive got a 7 hour drive this morning :(. Im committed, I'm quit. If I dont make it to post roll later, would someone help a brother out? Ill be spending the day with my family and not sure when ill be back at a computer.
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It is Saturday morning here and im on day 3. I feel good. The fog doesnt seem as bad today. Ive got a 7 hour drive this morning :(. Im committed, I'm quit. If I dont make it to post roll later, would someone help a brother out? Ill be spending the day with my family and not sure when ill be back at a computer.
You got it man. Just don't make me look like a sucker for vouching for you when you get back! Have a good trip, you should be coming out of the worst of the fog now. Still gonna be some slow times, but the worst is behind you as far as that goes. Just remember, after 72 hours, the nic is outta your system.
Proud to be quit with you today brother.
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It is Saturday morning here and im on day 3. I feel good. The fog doesnt seem as bad today. Ive got a 7 hour drive this morning :(. Im committed, I'm quit. If I dont make it to post roll later, would someone help a brother out? Ill be spending the day with my family and not sure when ill be back at a computer.
You got it man. Just don't make me look like a sucker for vouching for you when you get back! Have a good trip, you should be coming out of the worst of the fog now. Still gonna be some slow times, but the worst is behind you as far as that goes. Just remember, after 72 hours, the nic is outta your system.
Proud to be quit with you today brother.
Wow. This is brotherhood. This is one bad ass group!
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It is Saturday morning here and im on day 3. I feel good. The fog doesnt seem as bad today. Ive got a 7 hour drive this morning :(. Im committed, I'm quit. If I dont make it to post roll later, would someone help a brother out? Ill be spending the day with my family and not sure when ill be back at a computer.
Careful on the drive bro. Sometime around day 3 I remember I was so foggy I forgot to open my garage door before trying to drive away and crashed into it. Total retard.
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It is Saturday morning here and im on day 3. I feel good. The fog doesnt seem as bad today. Ive got a 7 hour drive this morning :(. Im committed, I'm quit. If I dont make it to post roll later, would someone help a brother out? Ill be spending the day with my family and not sure when ill be back at a computer.
Careful on the drive bro. Sometime around day 3 I remember I was so foggy I forgot to open my garage door before trying to drive away and crashed into it. Total retard.
Hahahahaha if this is true this is the best fog story I've ever heard.
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Day 3 is DONE. Im exhausted. Got up at 0300, drove 7 hours, and now on the beach. I managed to sit 7 straight hours with my wife and not have an argument fueled by my withdrawals. Hell I couldnt do that even when I dipped a can a day. I think she is proud of me and just wont admit it :D
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Day 3 is DONE. Im exhausted. Got up at 0300, drove 7 hours, and now on the beach. I managed to sit 7 straight hours with my wife and not have an argument fueled by my withdrawals. Hell I couldnt do that even when I dipped a can a day. I think she is proud of me and just wont admit it :D
Damn straight dude. She is and eventually she will tell you. The chicks double dig us guys quitting. Driving 7 hours on day 3 with no arguments blows me away. You are the ultimate bad ass.
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Day 3 is DONE. Im exhausted. Got up at 0300, drove 7 hours, and now on the beach. I managed to sit 7 straight hours with my wife and not have an argument fueled by my withdrawals. Hell I couldnt do that even when I dipped a can a day. I think she is proud of me and just wont admit it :D
Damn straight dude. She is and eventually she will tell you. The chicks double dig us guys quitting. Driving 7 hours on day 3 with no arguments blows me away. You are the ultimate bad ass.
Nice job bro! Saw you posted roll for a day 4. Any roadtrip without an argument is a successful roadtrip... especially 1 where you rolled out at 0300! Keep focused today. Stay quit!
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Day 3 is DONE. Im exhausted. Got up at 0300, drove 7 hours, and now on the beach. I managed to sit 7 straight hours with my wife and not have an argument fueled by my withdrawals. Hell I couldnt do that even when I dipped a can a day. I think she is proud of me and just wont admit it :D
Damn straight dude. She is and eventually she will tell you. The chicks double dig us guys quitting. Driving 7 hours on day 3 with no arguments blows me away. You are the ultimate bad ass.
Nice job bro! Saw you posted roll for a day 4. Any roadtrip without an argument is a successful roadtrip... especially 1 where you rolled out at 0300! Keep focused today. Stay quit!
You got this Chief! Nice job and let's quit together again today.
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Day 6- had a random BAD craving around 1800. I was super tired from being out all day with my wife, which led to us arguing. Once that argument hit, I wanted the worm dirt in my lip like no other. I popped in some of my smokey mountain herbal pouches and waited for the feeling to go away. Guess what, it did! It is awesome to know that no matter how bad I am craving that crap, the feeling will subside.
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Day 6- had a random BAD craving around 1800. I was super tired from being out all day with my wife, which led to us arguing. Once that argument hit, I wanted the worm dirt in my lip like no other. I popped in some of my smokey mountain herbal pouches and waited for the feeling to go away. Guess what, it did! It is awesome to know that no matter how bad I am craving that crap, the feeling will subside.
The cravings will get fewer and far between and much less intense.. Hell there will be entire days when u don't even think about dip.
I saw some dudes dipping at a Detroit tigers game on Saturday night. I just kind of looked at them like, "guys dipping...interesting".
My stomach didn't even "flip". For over a year, whenever I saw someone dipping my stomach would "flip" like , "Oh no, DIP". Like the feeling you get when a cop is riding behind you or if you just rolled up on a rattlesnake.
Not sure if this is making any sense, I'm kinda confusing myself...
My main point is, hang tough bro. Things get better. Better than you can even imagine. It won't happen over night, and it won't always be easy. But God DAMMIT it will always be worth it.
Quit on...
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The nic bitch is really scratching at my brain today. 7 days down and my brain is trying to rationalize why it would be okay to dip just one pouch. Luckily, I have been here before and I know the result. I'm quit!
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UH60, you got it, and I know you got it because you came here to post. Stay quit brother, in a week you'll look back at today and laugh!
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The nic bitch is really scratching at my brain today. 7 days down and my brain is trying to rationalize why it would be okay to dip just one pouch. Luckily, I have been here before and I know the result. I'm quit!
You got it man. Every crave you beat gives you that much more of an edge the next time... Proud to QLF with you today and all the Sultans.
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Day 11. Just got home from my vacation. I walked in the gas station on base, there she was.....my old friend, grizzly wintergreen, staring me in the face. Except this time, it felt different. As I looked at the can of long cut on the shelf, I felt embarrassed that it took me this long to quit. There was a split second where I could feel every nerve pathway in my brain screaming for that nicotine, but then I remembered how bad it was for me, the promises I have made to myself, my family, and all you guys on this site. I posted roll, so today, I am quit! That craving lasted maybe 10 seconds, thinking about all the facts and "science" behind nicotine, as well as my promis to stay QLF is what made that so easy to overcome. I am sure there are many more hurdles the nic bitch is going to throw in my path, but this one was huge and I nailed it. I sit here, still QUIT, thank you all on KTC
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Day 11. Just got home from my vacation. I walked in the gas station on base, there she was.....my old friend, grizzly wintergreen, staring me in the face. Except this time, it felt different. As I looked at the can of long cut on the shelf, I felt embarrassed that it took me this long to quit. There was a split second where I could feel every nerve pathway in my brain screaming for that nicotine, but then I remembered how bad it was for me, the promises I have made to myself, my family, and all you guys on this site. I posted roll, so today, I am quit! That craving lasted maybe 10 seconds, thinking about all the facts and "science" behind nicotine, as well as my promis to stay QLF is what made that so easy to overcome. I am sure there are many more hurdles the nic bitch is going to throw in my path, but this one was huge and I nailed it. I sit here, still QUIT, thank you all on KTC
Yous a damned quitting beast 60. Proud to be clean with you today.
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Day 11. Just got home from my vacation. I walked in the gas station on base, there she was.....my old friend, grizzly wintergreen, staring me in the face. Except this time, it felt different. As I looked at the can of long cut on the shelf, I felt embarrassed that it took me this long to quit. There was a split second where I could feel every nerve pathway in my brain screaming for that nicotine, but then I remembered how bad it was for me, the promises I have made to myself, my family, and all you guys on this site. I posted roll, so today, I am quit! That craving lasted maybe 10 seconds, thinking about all the facts and "science" behind nicotine, as well as my promis to stay QLF is what made that so easy to overcome. I am sure there are many more hurdles the nic bitch is going to throw in my path, but this one was huge and I nailed it. I sit here, still QUIT, thank you all on KTC
Yous a damned quitting beast 60. Proud to be clean with you today.
You are killing it! Big time quit going on here! You "get it" brother. QLF all day with you.
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Today I woke up just like any other day. I rolled over and shut off my alarm clock. Glancing at my phone, I noticed that I had about 15 missed messages and skype calls from various family members back in the states. Immediately I knew something BAD had happened. After reading through everything that my family had sent, I felt a wave of panic spread through my body. What if I didn't quit in time????
The bad news that my family had given was that my uncle had stage 4 cancer in his mouth, throat, and most of his lypmh nodes. As you could guess, he was an oral tobacco user for the better part of 25 years. The doctors said they caught it too late and there is nothing they can do. He will be lucky if he lives until Christmas. He is leaving behind 3 children under the age of 12 and a wife. This has solidified my QUIT more than ever before. To see the destruction this is causing my famiy is horrible. All because it felt "good" to have a pinch of worm dirt in all the time. I just hope I quit in time.....
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Today I woke up just like any other day. I rolled over and shut off my alarm clock. Glancing at my phone, I noticed that I had about 15 missed messages and skype calls from various family members back in the states. Immediately I knew something BAD had happened. After reading through everything that my family had sent, I felt a wave of panic spread through my body. What if I didn't quit in time????
The bad news that my family had given was that my uncle had stage 4 cancer in his mouth, throat, and most of his lypmh nodes. As you could guess, he was an oral tobacco user for the better part of 25 years. The doctors said they caught it too late and there is nothing they can do. He will be lucky if he lives until Christmas. He is leaving behind 3 children under the age of 12 and a wife. This has solidified my QUIT more than ever before. To see the destruction this is causing my famiy is horrible. All because it felt "good" to have a pinch of worm dirt in all the time. I just hope I quit in time.....
My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family chief. You are doing a hell of job with your quit. I am here for you if you need anything!!
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Today I woke up just like any other day. I rolled over and shut off my alarm clock. Glancing at my phone, I noticed that I had about 15 missed messages and skype calls from various family members back in the states. Immediately I knew something BAD had happened. After reading through everything that my family had sent, I felt a wave of panic spread through my body. What if I didn't quit in time????
The bad news that my family had given was that my uncle had stage 4 cancer in his mouth, throat, and most of his lypmh nodes. As you could guess, he was an oral tobacco user for the better part of 25 years. The doctors said they caught it too late and there is nothing they can do. He will be lucky if he lives until Christmas. He is leaving behind 3 children under the age of 12 and a wife. This has solidified my QUIT more than ever before. To see the destruction this is causing my famiy is horrible. All because it felt "good" to have a pinch of worm dirt in all the time. I just hope I quit in time.....
My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family chief. You are doing a hell of job with your quit. I am here for you if you need anything!!
Chief,
My father passed away in February of 2008 with pancreatic cancer. He was a Redman chewer right up to the end (I started stealing his Redman when I was like 12, graduating quickly through Skoal to Copenhagen). The number of pages on the internet linking pancreatic cancer to tobacco is too many to count....My dad would have been 80 on 11 June (which is why I planned that to be my quit day).
Condolences to your family; words at this time don't matter, just know that the Sultans are here for you dude. Give a holler (text or PM).
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Today I woke up just like any other day. I rolled over and shut off my alarm clock. Glancing at my phone, I noticed that I had about 15 missed messages and skype calls from various family members back in the states. Immediately I knew something BAD had happened. After reading through everything that my family had sent, I felt a wave of panic spread through my body. What if I didn't quit in time????
The bad news that my family had given was that my uncle had stage 4 cancer in his mouth, throat, and most of his lypmh nodes. As you could guess, he was an oral tobacco user for the better part of 25 years. The doctors said they caught it too late and there is nothing they can do. He will be lucky if he lives until Christmas. He is leaving behind 3 children under the age of 12 and a wife. This has solidified my QUIT more than ever before. To see the destruction this is causing my famiy is horrible. All because it felt "good" to have a pinch of worm dirt in all the time. I just hope I quit in time.....
Thoughts and prayers with your family and his Chief. That is an awful damn feeling to wake up to. Proud of you and your decision to not compound the problem by subjecting yourself to the same torture.
QLF with you today.
J2thaZ
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Today I woke up just like any other day. I rolled over and shut off my alarm clock. Glancing at my phone, I noticed that I had about 15 missed messages and skype calls from various family members back in the states. Immediately I knew something BAD had happened. After reading through everything that my family had sent, I felt a wave of panic spread through my body. What if I didn't quit in time????
The bad news that my family had given was that my uncle had stage 4 cancer in his mouth, throat, and most of his lypmh nodes. As you could guess, he was an oral tobacco user for the better part of 25 years. The doctors said they caught it too late and there is nothing they can do. He will be lucky if he lives until Christmas. He is leaving behind 3 children under the age of 12 and a wife. This has solidified my QUIT more than ever before. To see the destruction this is causing my famiy is horrible. All because it felt "good" to have a pinch of worm dirt in all the time. I just hope I quit in time.....
Thoughts and prayers with your family and his Chief. That is an awful damn feeling to wake up to. Proud of you and your decision to not compound the problem by subjecting yourself to the same torture.
QLF with you today.
J2thaZ
Damn brother. That's horrible news. Thinking of you and your family. We are quit now. There's no other option. This shit is taking too many of us.
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I appreciate the kind words guys. It is very unfortunate to see this happening, especially first hand to a family member
Yesterday was my first day back to work since I quit. I think the hardest days so far were yesterday and today as far as cravings and the triggers. I dipped mostly at work in order to hide it from my wife so everything around me reminds me of it right now. Typical routine, show up to work with a dip in. Go to the daily meeting, pop a dip in afterwards. Fix some helicopters....with a dip in. Sit in my office with a big wad in my lip. I find myself even reaching for my can and then it hits me "HEY JACKASS YOU QUIT". I had dreams the last 2 nights about dipping. It is getting ridiculous. The positive side, this shows me even more how much of an addict I was and how important it is to stay QUIT every damn day.
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I appreciate the kind words guys. It is very unfortunate to see this happening, especially first hand to a family member
Yesterday was my first day back to work since I quit. I think the hardest days so far were yesterday and today as far as cravings and the triggers. I dipped mostly at work in order to hide it from my wife so everything around me reminds me of it right now. Typical routine, show up to work with a dip in. Go to the daily meeting, pop a dip in afterwards. Fix some helicopters....with a dip in. Sit in my office with a big wad in my lip. I find myself even reaching for my can and then it hits me "HEY JACKASS YOU QUIT". I had dreams the last 2 nights about dipping. It is getting ridiculous. The positive side, this shows me even more how much of an addict I was and how important it is to stay QUIT every damn day.
just keep plugging away UH it will get better. triggers are just the old associations your brain had with dip. each time you face a trigger down that trigger becomes weaker and conversely you get stronger.
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Today I woke up just like any other day. I rolled over and shut off my alarm clock. Glancing at my phone, I noticed that I had about 15 missed messages and skype calls from various family members back in the states. Immediately I knew something BAD had happened. After reading through everything that my family had sent, I felt a wave of panic spread through my body. What if I didn't quit in time????
The bad news that my family had given was that my uncle had stage 4 cancer in his mouth, throat, and most of his lypmh nodes. As you could guess, he was an oral tobacco user for the better part of 25 years. The doctors said they caught it too late and there is nothing they can do. He will be lucky if he lives until Christmas. He is leaving behind 3 children under the age of 12 and a wife. This has solidified my QUIT more than ever before. To see the destruction this is causing my famiy is horrible. All because it felt "good" to have a pinch of worm dirt in all the time. I just hope I quit in time.....
Thoughts and prayers with your family and his Chief. That is an awful damn feeling to wake up to. Proud of you and your decision to not compound the problem by subjecting yourself to the same torture.
QLF with you today.
J2thaZ
Damn brother. That's horrible news. Thinking of you and your family. We are quit now. There's no other option. This shit is taking too many of us.
Terrible news. My condolences to you and your family. But thanks very much for sharing. It is extremely important that everyone hear these stories. Tobacco kills. Sometimes slow and sometimes fast. But eventually it kills.
Stay quit at all costs.
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Today I woke up just like any other day. I rolled over and shut off my alarm clock. Glancing at my phone, I noticed that I had about 15 missed messages and skype calls from various family members back in the states. Immediately I knew something BAD had happened. After reading through everything that my family had sent, I felt a wave of panic spread through my body. What if I didn't quit in time????
The bad news that my family had given was that my uncle had stage 4 cancer in his mouth, throat, and most of his lypmh nodes. As you could guess, he was an oral tobacco user for the better part of 25 years. The doctors said they caught it too late and there is nothing they can do. He will be lucky if he lives until Christmas. He is leaving behind 3 children under the age of 12 and a wife. This has solidified my QUIT more than ever before. To see the destruction this is causing my famiy is horrible. All because it felt "good" to have a pinch of worm dirt in all the time. I just hope I quit in time.....
Thoughts and prayers with your family and his Chief. That is an awful damn feeling to wake up to. Proud of you and your decision to not compound the problem by subjecting yourself to the same torture.
QLF with you today.
J2thaZ
Damn brother. That's horrible news. Thinking of you and your family. We are quit now. There's no other option. This shit is taking too many of us.
Terrible news. My condolences to you and your family. But thanks very much for sharing. It is extremely important that everyone hear these stories. Tobacco kills. Sometimes slow and sometimes fast. But eventually it kills.
Stay quit at all costs.
I lost a couple people close to me, due to lung cancer and throat cancer the first year of quit. I have one more battling right now for his life. Been there done that, prayers. Just adds to my hatred for the poison. I've got roll posted, so today lets say me and you QLFADD!
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D2, Grizzly, srans- thanks for the encouragement.
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Today I woke up just like any other day. I rolled over and shut off my alarm clock. Glancing at my phone, I noticed that I had about 15 missed messages and skype calls from various family members back in the states. Immediately I knew something BAD had happened. After reading through everything that my family had sent, I felt a wave of panic spread through my body. What if I didn't quit in time????
The bad news that my family had given was that my uncle had stage 4 cancer in his mouth, throat, and most of his lypmh nodes. As you could guess, he was an oral tobacco user for the better part of 25 years. The doctors said they caught it too late and there is nothing they can do. He will be lucky if he lives until Christmas. He is leaving behind 3 children under the age of 12 and a wife. This has solidified my QUIT more than ever before. To see the destruction this is causing my famiy is horrible. All because it felt "good" to have a pinch of worm dirt in all the time. I just hope I quit in time.....
Thoughts and prayers with your family and his Chief. That is an awful damn feeling to wake up to. Proud of you and your decision to not compound the problem by subjecting yourself to the same torture.
QLF with you today.
J2thaZ
You are in my prayers 60! Knowing the dangers of this stuff makes us all wonder if we quit in time. When I first started at KTC I did research and learned about Sean Marsee. The kid died of mouth cancer at 19 yo. He started dipping at 12yo. That is only 7 years of use. I pray we all quit in time.
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I read about Sean Marsee too. That makes the consequences seem all too real. Thankful that I am quit today.
No real big news for day 15. Not many cravings and the fog never came today.
At day 5 I had a sore spot on my tongue. I thought I would wait a week to see if it cleared up. Well, at day 12, it was still sore and I was getting worried. I made a doctor's appointment which was today. The doc checked out the spot and said it is nothing to worry about. RELIEF! Apparently I bit my tongue pretty bad in my sleep and it is taking a while to heal. This has solidified my quit even MORE.
Now, the bad side to this story. This doctor's checkup was also for my back(spine). As it turns out, my back is too jacked up for me to continue in military service. My career in the Army will be cut short. I planned on putting in 20 years but my body just can't handle it. It was a pleasure serving you America. It was the best/worst years of my life.
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Today, my dick is in the dirt. Overwhelming sense of being "down" and generally pissed off. Hopefully this lifts tomorrow! Day 16 is in the books, time to pass out.
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Today, my dick is in the dirt. Overwhelming sense of being "down" and generally pissed off. Hopefully this lifts tomorrow! Day 16 is in the books, time to pass out.
Hey man, check out LOOT's thoughts on the 20-30 funk. Stick with it. When you get thru this one, you'll be a MONTH quit bro. A fuckin' MONTH! Stick to the Kool-Aid, and we'll get thru this. Quit each and every damn day with you Chiref!!
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Super bad craving last night. I had a ragegasm and fought the nic bitch off. Still proud to be quit with all of you.
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Super bad craving last night. I had a ragegasm and fought the nic bitch off. Still proud to be quit with all of you.
Chief,
You hang tough bro. I'm proud to quit w/you and my Sultans. You're gonna be fine. I know it. Kick the nic demons to the curb...
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I read about Sean Marsee too. That makes the consequences seem all too real. Thankful that I am quit today.
No real big news for day 15. Not many cravings and the fog never came today.
At day 5 I had a sore spot on my tongue. I thought I would wait a week to see if it cleared up. Well, at day 12, it was still sore and I was getting worried. I made a doctor's appointment which was today. The doc checked out the spot and said it is nothing to worry about. RELIEF! Apparently I bit my tongue pretty bad in my sleep and it is taking a while to heal. This has solidified my quit even MORE.
Now, the bad side to this story. This doctor's checkup was also for my back(spine). As it turns out, my back is too jacked up for me to continue in military service. My career in the Army will be cut short. I planned on putting in 20 years but my body just can't handle it. It was a pleasure serving you America. It was the best/worst years of my life.
60,
My back is so jacked up from being aircrew, in addition to being a Marine that I can hardly get out of bed most mornings. Funny thing, once you become a civvy the pain you feel increases 10 fold. I guess it has something to do with not being part of such a badass outfit anymore. Motrin is my bestest buddy now. You'll pull through, I hear med retirement ain't bad.
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I read about Sean Marsee too. That makes the consequences seem all too real. Thankful that I am quit today.
No real big news for day 15. Not many cravings and the fog never came today.
At day 5 I had a sore spot on my tongue. I thought I would wait a week to see if it cleared up. Well, at day 12, it was still sore and I was getting worried. I made a doctor's appointment which was today. The doc checked out the spot and said it is nothing to worry about. RELIEF! Apparently I bit my tongue pretty bad in my sleep and it is taking a while to heal. This has solidified my quit even MORE.
Now, the bad side to this story. This doctor's checkup was also for my back(spine). As it turns out, my back is too jacked up for me to continue in military service. My career in the Army will be cut short. I planned on putting in 20 years but my body just can't handle it. It was a pleasure serving you America. It was the best/worst years of my life.
60,
My back is so jacked up from being aircrew, in addition to being a Marine that I can hardly get out of bed most mornings. Funny thing, once you become a civvy the pain you feel increases 10 fold. I guess it has something to do with not being part of such a badass outfit anymore. Motrin is my bestest buddy now. You'll pull through, I hear med retirement ain't bad.
I think what made it so bad on me is the fact that I am 6'4" tall. The cabin of the uh60 is not that big lol. I had to sit hunched over whenever I flew. When you start racking up the flight hours, it really takes a toll on your back. Here is what is ironic, they moved me to more of an "admin" job until they figured out if they could fix my back. Since I have been pushing papers the last 3 weeks, my back pain has increased significantly. They also placed me on a dead man's profile to where I can basically do ZERO physical activity. I couldn't stand being stationary so I decided to go against what the docs told me and went for a run this past weekend. The pain is hardly noticeable now. I really think that placing someone on a sedentary profile only increases the damage.
Now to address the other "elephant in the room". I am not even sure what to say about this whole J2ThaZ business. It seems like a clear cut case of caving and just coming back on a new screen name. If you research the posts, the grammar and sentence structure is identical from Jzzigyzag01 to J2ThaZ. They both sign their posts as "JZ" and they both use similar avitars. I highly doubt a guy posing as someone else to avoid detection by his wife would use the same exact writing style as the person he is posing as. I really was leaning towards believing J2 but I think I am just trying make him innocent because I don't want to face the fact that I was fooled into thinking a snake was a decent dude. Either way you look at it, an explanation before posting Day 1 on 2 JUNE 2014 would have nipped this all in the bud. It is amazing to me the bond you build just through this online community. I never even met the guy and I feel mad, let down, betrayed, and confused. If we were so easily fooled by this guy, who is to say everyone else isn't just kicking back with a dip in while posting roll? This is just something I am struggling with today. Stupid nic bitch trying to twist my mind up. But, I posted roll this morning, so today I am quit with you all.
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I read about Sean Marsee too. That makes the consequences seem all too real. Thankful that I am quit today.
No real big news for day 15. Not many cravings and the fog never came today.
At day 5 I had a sore spot on my tongue. I thought I would wait a week to see if it cleared up. Well, at day 12, it was still sore and I was getting worried. I made a doctor's appointment which was today. The doc checked out the spot and said it is nothing to worry about. RELIEF! Apparently I bit my tongue pretty bad in my sleep and it is taking a while to heal. This has solidified my quit even MORE.
Now, the bad side to this story. This doctor's checkup was also for my back(spine). As it turns out, my back is too jacked up for me to continue in military service. My career in the Army will be cut short. I planned on putting in 20 years but my body just can't handle it. It was a pleasure serving you America. It was the best/worst years of my life.
60,
My back is so jacked up from being aircrew, in addition to being a Marine that I can hardly get out of bed most mornings. Funny thing, once you become a civvy the pain you feel increases 10 fold. I guess it has something to do with not being part of such a badass outfit anymore. Motrin is my bestest buddy now. You'll pull through, I hear med retirement ain't bad.
I think what made it so bad on me is the fact that I am 6'4" tall. The cabin of the uh60 is not that big lol. I had to sit hunched over whenever I flew. When you start racking up the flight hours, it really takes a toll on your back. Here is what is ironic, they moved me to more of an "admin" job until they figured out if they could fix my back. Since I have been pushing papers the last 3 weeks, my back pain has increased significantly. They also placed me on a dead man's profile to where I can basically do ZERO physical activity. I couldn't stand being stationary so I decided to go against what the docs told me and went for a run this past weekend. The pain is hardly noticeable now. I really think that placing someone on a sedentary profile only increases the damage.
Now to address the other "elephant in the room". I am not even sure what to say about this whole J2ThaZ business. It seems like a clear cut case of caving and just coming back on a new screen name. If you research the posts, the grammar and sentence structure is identical from Jzzigyzag01 to J2ThaZ. They both sign their posts as "JZ" and they both use similar avitars. I highly doubt a guy posing as someone else to avoid detection by his wife would use the same exact writing style as the person he is posing as. I really was leaning towards believing J2 but I think I am just trying make him innocent because I don't want to face the fact that I was fooled into thinking a snake was a decent dude. Either way you look at it, an explanation before posting Day 1 on 2 JUNE 2014 would have nipped this all in the bud. It is amazing to me the bond you build just through this online community. I never even met the guy and I feel mad, let down, betrayed, and confused. If we were so easily fooled by this guy, who is to say everyone else isn't just kicking back with a dip in while posting roll? This is just something I am struggling with today. Stupid nic bitch trying to twist my mind up. But, I posted roll this morning, so today I am quit with you all.
Most of us are honest and taking this seriously. Sure there are probably a few trolls. They will weed themselves out eventually. Keep the focus. Keep the quit. You are amongst brothers.
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I read about Sean Marsee too. That makes the consequences seem all too real. Thankful that I am quit today.
No real big news for day 15. Not many cravings and the fog never came today.
At day 5 I had a sore spot on my tongue. I thought I would wait a week to see if it cleared up. Well, at day 12, it was still sore and I was getting worried. I made a doctor's appointment which was today. The doc checked out the spot and said it is nothing to worry about. RELIEF! Apparently I bit my tongue pretty bad in my sleep and it is taking a while to heal. This has solidified my quit even MORE.
Now, the bad side to this story. This doctor's checkup was also for my back(spine). As it turns out, my back is too jacked up for me to continue in military service. My career in the Army will be cut short. I planned on putting in 20 years but my body just can't handle it. It was a pleasure serving you America. It was the best/worst years of my life.
60,
My back is so jacked up from being aircrew, in addition to being a Marine that I can hardly get out of bed most mornings. Funny thing, once you become a civvy the pain you feel increases 10 fold. I guess it has something to do with not being part of such a badass outfit anymore. Motrin is my bestest buddy now. You'll pull through, I hear med retirement ain't bad.
I think what made it so bad on me is the fact that I am 6'4" tall. The cabin of the uh60 is not that big lol. I had to sit hunched over whenever I flew. When you start racking up the flight hours, it really takes a toll on your back. Here is what is ironic, they moved me to more of an "admin" job until they figured out if they could fix my back. Since I have been pushing papers the last 3 weeks, my back pain has increased significantly. They also placed me on a dead man's profile to where I can basically do ZERO physical activity. I couldn't stand being stationary so I decided to go against what the docs told me and went for a run this past weekend. The pain is hardly noticeable now. I really think that placing someone on a sedentary profile only increases the damage.
Now to address the other "elephant in the room". I am not even sure what to say about this whole J2ThaZ business. It seems like a clear cut case of caving and just coming back on a new screen name. If you research the posts, the grammar and sentence structure is identical from Jzzigyzag01 to J2ThaZ. They both sign their posts as "JZ" and they both use similar avitars. I highly doubt a guy posing as someone else to avoid detection by his wife would use the same exact writing style as the person he is posing as. I really was leaning towards believing J2 but I think I am just trying make him innocent because I don't want to face the fact that I was fooled into thinking a snake was a decent dude. Either way you look at it, an explanation before posting Day 1 on 2 JUNE 2014 would have nipped this all in the bud. It is amazing to me the bond you build just through this online community. I never even met the guy and I feel mad, let down, betrayed, and confused. If we were so easily fooled by this guy, who is to say everyone else isn't just kicking back with a dip in while posting roll? This is just something I am struggling with today. Stupid nic bitch trying to twist my mind up. But, I posted roll this morning, so today I am quit with you all.
Most of us are honest and taking this seriously. Sure there are probably a few trolls. They will weed themselves out eventually. Keep the focus. Keep the quit. You are amongst brothers.
Totally agree Grizz. 60 - I like your September group. You guys have been through your share of drama. I've only been here coming up on 2 months so I've only seen my squeaky clean August team and yours. I can't imagine more liars and cavers in any other month. You stayed strong and stuck through it all. And what are you guys, 70 strong? Amazing. Hope you hold onto each and every one of them.
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Just to clear the air. I did not intend to sound like I suspect everyone of sneaking a dip and posting roll. That was just the random thoughts of an insomniac lol.
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Just to clear the air. I did not intend to sound like I suspect everyone of sneaking a dip and posting roll. That was just the random thoughts of an insomniac lol.
You're good bro, now worries. I too am very impressed by your quit, as well as the Sultans in general ... There has definitely been a great deal of drama in September. Tony Gwynn's death jumped your numbers to a huge group ... stay strong and help hold that group together! I quit with you today 60.
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Chief,
Congrats on the 20!! Just read your post regarding what happened yesterday with JZ....I share your anger, pain, and frustration. Thought he was a true Sultan. But know this, the ones remaining are truly those brothers you can rely on. Proud to be quit with you today, tomorrow, and EDD that follows.
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Chief,
Congrats on the 20!! Just read your post regarding what happened yesterday with JZ....I share your anger, pain, and frustration. Thought he was a true Sultan. But know this, the ones remaining are truly those brothers you can rely on. Proud to be quit with you today, tomorrow, and EDD that follows.
20 is Badass Chief, proud to be quit with you today!
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Thanks fellas.
21 days in. I feel like shit. that is all.
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Thanks fellas.
21 days in. I feel like shit. that is all.
This too shall pass.
That feeling you have is your body throwing a temper tantrum. This is the price we pay for poisoning ourselves for XX years.
The good news is, you're winning, and you're healing. Ride it out.
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Good to see you here, Chief. Hang in there.. It gets better with time.
Romandog - 1166
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Hey everyone. I haven't been on much the past week due to all the medical appointments I've got going on at Fort Bragg. I am here and doing okay. The news about my condition is not great but I can't complain. I would like to share this little story with you. My outlook on life has changed.....
Tonight was the most humbling experience I have had in a long time. The guy I am sharing quarters with is Doug. I hadn't met him for the week I have been here because he apparently was in the hospital. Doug showed up today and he was the most friendly guy I have met in a long time. We sat and talked for an hour like we were long lost friends, even though we had never met. Doug has been on 3 deployments and served his country honorably. While doing a parajump this past year, his parachute didn't open all the way. He hit the ground so hard that it severed his spinal cord and he lost feeling and movement in everything below his waist, as well as his left arm. His wife could not handle him being paralyzed and left him without even saying goodbye. The pain I feel will never ever be as bad as what Doug has gone through and he still remains a happy and cheerful guy. He is a real American hero, not me. Makes me ashamed to even say I am going to have a disability percentage when I get out. Thank you Doug for making me see life in a new light.
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Hey everyone. I haven't been on much the past week due to all the medical appointments I've got going on at Fort Bragg. I am here and doing okay. The news about my condition is not great but I can't complain. I would like to share this little story with you. My outlook on life has changed.....
Tonight was the most humbling experience I have had in a long time. The guy I am sharing quarters with is Doug. I hadn't met him for the week I have been here because he apparently was in the hospital. Doug showed up today and he was the most friendly guy I have met in a long time. We sat and talked for an hour like we were long lost friends, even though we had never met. Doug has been on 3 deployments and served his country honorably. While doing a parajump this past year, his parachute didn't open all the way. He hit the ground so hard that it severed his spinal cord and he lost feeling and movement in everything below his waist, as well as his left arm. His wife could not handle him being paralyzed and left him without even saying goodbye. The pain I feel will never ever be as bad as what Doug has gone through and he still remains a happy and cheerful guy. He is a real American hero, not me. Makes me ashamed to even say I am going to have a disability percentage when I get out. Thank you Doug for making me see life in a new light.
Doug is the fucking man!
Of that, there is no doubt, but don't be ashamed. Your service has been just as honorable as Doug's. You're just luckier than Doug and probably not as decent of a human being as Doug, but I probably am not either. I can't imagine still being happy and cheerful after all that. Hopefully Doug gets taken care of.
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I haven't written much in my intro the past couple months. I hit the HOF and am well on my way to the second floor, woohoo.
*edit* In this spot I previously ranted about the woes of my life and decided I was just whining. Time to work harder.*
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I haven't written much in my intro the past couple months. I hit the HOF and am well on my way to the second floor, woohoo.
*edit* In this spot I previously ranted about the woes of my life and decided I was just whining. Time to work harder.*
Chief,
Congrats on the HOF! That is a huge accomplishment! Be PROUD of that!
It sounds like you're in a serious funk, brother. I don't know all the details of your situation, but I encourage you to talk to someone. We all have our ups and downs. Some of us have bigger ones than others. I'm pretty sure you have some VA help available. Use it. If not, go see your regular doc and talk to him. There is no shame in it. Every now and then, we all need a check up from the neck up. When we are kicking this nasty bitch to the curb, many of us go through deep feelings of anxiety and/or depression.
It's ok to get some help with that.
I'm no doc, but if you want to talk, let me know.