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Title: Day one for me.
Post by: Brad64 on March 23, 2009, 01:16:00 PM
Oh man. I've been chewing Redman for 20 years. Never spit a drop. This is the first time I've ever admitted it in a public place. I just pinch a bit out of the pouch, tuck it in my cheek, and away I go. All day. Every day.

This is hour 5 on day one. I've tried before and I never make it past day 2.

I've never tried with a group though. I hope this helps.

I'm gonna need some help. I can be a royal ass when I'm jonesing. I'm scared of being mean or rude to people I care about. Especially my wife. She knows I chew, but she has no clue how much. My brother knows though. I've never told another soul in over 20 years. But after reading some posts and the info posted here I can see everyone here gets it.

We'll see. One day at a time huh? Ok.

I'm gonna go play some tennis. Excercise helps take my mind off of it. I may need help hour by hour. Hell minute by minute. I don't know.
Title: Re: Day one for me.
Post by: ScooterScum on March 23, 2009, 01:22:00 PM
Welcome Brad!!!! Glad to have you!!!


Here are some links that may help...

If you have flushed your chew and are quit today head on over to the June group and post Day 1 (link below). Today is the last day to enter the June group. If you post day 1 tomorrow that's OK you will be in the July group. Either way you are quit. Post roll everyday and give your word that you will not chew for that day. Stay close to this site and read as much information as possible. This site is for raging (believe me there will be times when you want to snap somenoe's head off) We want you to vent that rage on this site to us, keep it away from your family.

index.php?showtopic=2172 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=2172)

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Roll call, why we do it your word by LOOT.

index.php?showtopic=120 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=120)

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A how to get started by Remy:

index.php?showtopic=1360 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=1360)

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How to post roll.

index.php?showtopic=50 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50)

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How to Post ROLL CALL - Roll Call Instructions
Step 1 - Find the last Roll Call
Step 2 - Hit the "Quote" button in the upper right hand corner.
Step 3 - Click your mouse ANYWHERE in The bottom Box
Step 4 - Hit Ctrl and "A" at the Same time so it looks like THIS
Step 5 - Hit Ctrl and "X" at the same time so there is NOTHING in Either Box
Step 6 - Click your mouse in the TOP BOX
Step 7 - Hit Ctrl and "V" at the same time to Past the info into the top box AND ADD YOUR info to the bottom of the list
Step 8 - Hit ADD REPLY below the bottom box
Step 9 - Go back to the 1st unread post, pat yourself on the back, and have a beer cause you will not be dipping today.

If you need anything else, give me a shout.
Title: Re: Day one for me.
Post by: Brad64 on March 23, 2009, 01:30:00 PM
Thank You Scooter. Much appreciated.
Title: Re: Day one for me.
Post by: DanTheMan on March 23, 2009, 01:38:00 PM
Hey Man - If you really want to quit, you can do it!!!! Just check out all the stories and info. posted by the members on this website. Everyone of us has been in your shoes. I'm at day 27, it sucks bad, but with the help of this website their ain't no caving for me. PM me if you need anything
Title: Re: Day one for me.
Post by: Brad64 on March 23, 2009, 04:39:00 PM
Quote from: KodiakDan
Hey Man - If you really want to quit, you can do it!!!! Just check out all the stories and info. posted by the members on this website. Everyone of us has been in your shoes. I'm at day 27, it sucks bad, but with the help of this website their ain't no caving for me. PM me if you need anything
Thanks Kodiak,

Man I'm already having cravings. It's been a little over 8 hours. I'm home, just had a bite to eat, sittin in front of my pc, and now I'm headed out to my deck to enjoy a nice evening.

How in the hell do I do that without a chaw of Redman in my mouth? HOW??? It's been over 20 years since I did anything without my Redman. My eyes are kind of tingling and I'm already getting agitated just thinking about it.

How do you guys get through this. What the hell exactly do you do to NOT CHEW?!
Title: Re: Day one for me.
Post by: redtrain14 on March 23, 2009, 04:49:00 PM
Quote from: Brad64
Quote from: KodiakDan
Hey Man - If you really want to quit, you can do it!!!! Just check out all the stories and info. posted by the members on this website. Everyone of us has been in your shoes. I'm at day 27, it sucks bad, but with the help of this website their ain't no caving for me. PM me if you need anything
Thanks Kodiak,

Man I'm already having cravings. It's been a little over 8 hours. I'm home, just had a bite to eat, sittin in front of my pc, and now I'm headed out to my deck to enjoy a nice evening.

How in the hell do I do that without a chaw of Redman in my mouth? HOW??? It's been over 20 years since I did anything without my Redman. My eyes are kind of tingling and I'm already getting agitated just thinking about it.

How do you guys get through this. What the hell exactly do you do to NOT CHEW?!
Gum, seeds, lots of water, read everything here, chat room...stay away from the booze.

What ever it takes to keep the real stuff out of your mouth!
Title: Re: Day one for me.
Post by: ScooterScum on March 23, 2009, 04:56:00 PM
Quote from: redtrain14
Quote from: Brad64
Quote from: KodiakDan
Hey Man - If you really want to quit, you can do it!!!! Just check out all the stories and info. posted by the members on this website. Everyone of us has been in your shoes. I'm at day 27, it sucks bad, but with the help of this website their ain't no caving for me. PM me if you need anything
Thanks Kodiak,

Man I'm already having cravings. It's been a little over 8 hours. I'm home, just had a bite to eat, sittin in front of my pc, and now I'm headed out to my deck to enjoy a nice evening.

How in the hell do I do that without a chaw of Redman in my mouth? HOW??? It's been over 20 years since I did anything without my Redman. My eyes are kind of tingling and I'm already getting agitated just thinking about it.

How do you guys get through this. What the hell exactly do you do to NOT CHEW?!
Gum, seeds, lots of water, read everything here, chat room...stay away from the booze.

What ever it takes to keep the real stuff out of your mouth!
Use the fake stuff! Smokey Mountain, Hooch find something you can tolerate and use it, use the hell out of it. You will eventually taper off the fake stuff.
Title: Re: Day one for me.
Post by: Brad64 on March 23, 2009, 05:24:00 PM
Quote from: ScooterScum
Quote from: redtrain14

Use the fake stuff! Smokey Mountain, Hooch find something you can tolerate and use it, use the hell out of it. You will eventually taper off the fake stuff.
Is the fake stuff for sale at conv stores? I've never tried it.
Title: Re: Day one for me.
Post by: bearattack on March 23, 2009, 08:13:00 PM
Quitting dip.... U gotta.... Its for suckers...
It is possible... No matter how fucked up its got you.... I look at it like this, don't dip. I know easy to say but it won't hurt you to not dip.. Its a total mindfuck, the next month is going to pass if you dip or not. Take it by the reighns and fuck those guys that have you making daily 6dollar cancer installments.....

Fukukodiak
Title: Re: Day one for me.
Post by: Brad64 on March 23, 2009, 08:52:00 PM
Quote from: bearattack
Quitting dip.... U gotta.... Its for suckers...
It is possible... No matter how fucked up its got you.... I look at it like this, don't dip. I know easy to say but it won't hurt you to not dip.. Its a total mindfuck, the next month is going to pass if you dip or not. Take it by the reighns and fuck those guys that have you making daily 6dollar cancer installments.....

Fukukodiak
I appreciate the encouragement bearattack. Thank you.

I'm hanging in there. It's been 12 hours. No chew, no nic. Almost 13 hours really since I started at 8AM and it's almost 9pm here.

Now I gotta make it through the night.

I just told my wife. She's 100% behind me so we'll see...
Title: Re: Day one for me.
Post by: chewie on March 23, 2009, 09:08:00 PM
Quote from: Brad64
How do you guys get through this. What the hell exactly do you do to NOT CHEW?!
There are many ways to accomplish this...

Here's one... read. Start here: http://www.killthecan.org/facts/cancerfacts.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/cancerfacts.asp)

Read that page and every page that's linked to it. Then go another another page and repeat.

chewie
Title: Re: Day one for me.
Post by: Move Forward on March 24, 2009, 12:33:00 AM
Brad64,

Congratulations on quitting. It's a decision that you won't regret as long as you stay true to yourself and give it an honest effort.
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How do you guys get through this. What the hell exactly do you do to NOT CHEW?!
Personally, for me, I come here to the boards or to the chat room. If I have questions, I ask them. Someone is always bending over backwards to help you out on here. That's what I like about this site, all the help and camaraderie of all of us quitters. How many times does that chew give a shit about you?

Try and take your mind off whatever triggers your urge to chew. Find something that you enjoy doing and do it, read, exercise, hunt, fish or whatever. Find something that takes your mind off the urge and stick with it, you'll get there. Have faith and stay strong, you can do this.

This isn't a race, take it slow, pace yourself. Baby steps...one day at a time, you'll be amazed at how fast those days will add up. Just stick with it and be strong. You came here for a reason, whatever that reason is, remember it each time you're craving, then look at all the hard work you've put into quitting. Stay active here on the forums and stay true to your quit group, but most importantly, stay true to yourself.

Stay Strong-Stay Quit!

MF
Title: Re: Day one for me.
Post by: Brad64 on March 24, 2009, 05:12:00 PM
Day 2. Fuck day 2.

I'm anxious. I'm bored. I'm nervous. I've eaten about a dozen blow pops/tootsie pops, plus something called mango-tango tangerine pops.

I just ate 2 cans of sardines and a slim jim. That's gonna make a nice fart later. I'll probably kill my whole damn family with that thing.

My fog is a little less foggy right now. I just got back from tennis. Exercise really helps. I'm gonna go for a walk. See if I can make it till the sun sets.

I'm still taking it one minute at a time. One day at a time is too fucking big for me to handle right now. I alternate between angry and slightly annoyed. Been that way all day.

My anxiety level is through the roof. And my teeth feel weird. I can't sit still, and when I do all I want is a chew. It's all I can think about.

Reading the stories here helps me, but my patience level is so short it's hard to concentrate sometimes. Hell most of the time.

Ok, that killed a minute. Good! Now I gotta get through the next minute.
Title: Re: Day one for me.
Post by: Move Forward on March 24, 2009, 05:19:00 PM
Brad,

It'll get better, really it will. Day 2 was my worst day so far also. Stay close to the boards my friend, you'll get through this.
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I just ate 2 cans of sardines and a slim jim. That's gonna make a nice fart later. I'll probably kill my whole damn family with that thing.
Helluva combo, you may need to go outside when that thing hits.

Stay Strong-Stay Quit!

MF
Title: Re: Day one for me.
Post by: braden on March 24, 2009, 05:23:00 PM
Quote from: Brad64
Day 2. Fuck day 2.

I'm anxious. I'm bored. I'm nervous. I've eaten about a dozen blow pops/tootsie pops, plus something called mango-tango tangerine pops.

I just ate 2 cans of sardines and a slim jim. That's gonna make a nice fart later. I'll probably kill my whole damn family with that thing.

My fog is a little less foggy right now. I just got back from tennis. Exercise really helps. I'm gonna go for a walk. See if I can make it till the sun sets.

I'm still taking it one minute at a time. One day at a time is too fucking big for me to handle right now. I alternate between angry and slightly annoyed. Been that way all day.

My anxiety level is through the roof. And my teeth feel weird. I can't sit still, and when I do all I want is a chew. It's all I can think about.

Reading the stories here helps me, but my patience level is so short it's hard to concentrate sometimes. Hell most of the time.

Ok, that killed a minute. Good! Now I gotta get through the next minute.
Like I said -- "Caged Tiger"

Hang in there. You not only can do this, you ARE DOING IT.

Could you have imagined a couple days ago that you would go this long without chew?
Title: Re: Day one for me.
Post by: Brad64 on March 24, 2009, 05:39:00 PM
It helps having you guys here. It really does. It's just so hard to fill the time with something BESIDES CHEWING.

I'm gonna take a stroll. Then maybe take my laptop out on the deck with me. I'm gonna need some moral support. But I am kinda proud of making it this far.

P.S. I just ate 2 cupcakes. 1 chocolate with cream cheese icing, the other vanilla with banana pudding icing. Damn they were good.
Title: Re: Day one for me.
Post by: ScubaSteve on March 24, 2009, 05:51:00 PM
Quote from: Brad64
Day 2. Fuck day 2.

I'm anxious. I'm bored. I'm nervous. I've eaten about a dozen blow pops/tootsie pops, plus something called mango-tango tangerine pops.

I just ate 2 cans of sardines and a slim jim. That's gonna make a nice fart later. I'll probably kill my whole damn family with that thing.

My fog is a little less foggy right now. I just got back from tennis. Exercise really helps. I'm gonna go for a walk. See if I can make it till the sun sets.

I'm still taking it one minute at a time. One day at a time is too fucking big for me to handle right now. I alternate between angry and slightly annoyed. Been that way all day.

My anxiety level is through the roof. And my teeth feel weird. I can't sit still, and when I do all I want is a chew. It's all I can think about.

Reading the stories here helps me, but my patience level is so short it's hard to concentrate sometimes. Hell most of the time.

Ok, that killed a minute. Good! Now I gotta get through the next minute.
Well this plan should definitely keep you quit!!! Just turn the tennis matches up about 4 notches, and turn the walk into some runs, cause with all these slim jims and cupcakes and tango mang tootsie rolls....This plan will also put a fatty in your clothes instead of your lip!
Title: Re: Day one for me.
Post by: PatrickC on March 24, 2009, 10:19:00 PM
Brad,

I hear ya bro... day 4 sucked ass too. drove circles around a convenience store while chewing a combo napkin/dentine mint gum...

The tingling goes away but the cravings are still there... beatable though.

After 96 hours, the nic bitch is supposed to be out of my body, but you'd never know it from the cravings. That said, yesterday was worse than today. So, fuck it... tomorrow should be better than today, and so on...

Stay the course, and if you have trouble, PM me and let's figure it out.

I'm going to be fat as shit when i give my HOF speech from all the subsitutes, but at least my jaw will still be intact.

On a positive note, even at day 4, my inner lip feels like butter. Been a long time since it didn't feel like sandpaper.

Stay the course Brad... we're all in this together.
Title: Re: Day one for me.
Post by: Brad64 on March 25, 2009, 07:47:00 AM
Quote from: PatrickC
Brad,

I hear ya bro... day 4 sucked ass too. drove circles around a convenience store while chewing a combo napkin/dentine mint gum...

The tingling goes away but the cravings are still there... beatable though.

After 96 hours, the nic bitch is supposed to be out of my body, but you'd never know it from the cravings. That said, yesterday was worse than today. So, fuck it... tomorrow should be better than today, and so on...

Stay the course, and if you have trouble, PM me and let's figure it out.

I'm going to be fat as shit when i give my HOF speech from all the subsitutes, but at least my jaw will still be intact.

On a positive note, even at day 4, my inner lip feels like butter. Been a long time since it didn't feel like sandpaper.

Stay the course Brad... we're all in this together.
Thanks Patrick,

I need that support man. It really helps. I'm glad to see you're still going strong.

I've got 2 full days done. Starting day 3 today. I gotta stick to my one minute at a time philosophy. Cuz that's about as far into the future as my brain can think. LOL!

I gotta go roll call.
Title: Re: Day one for me.
Post by: Brad64 on March 25, 2009, 02:08:00 PM
I'm in the middle of Day 3. It's worse than day 2. I'm kinda foggy and angry today. With nothing but craves.

I'd like to thank Mike for the call. Thanks Bro! It was great talking to you. That really helped.

I'm not getting much work done because I can't concentrate. Everything is still based on one minute at a time.

My iPod helps. Taking life one minute at a time helps. Ice water, lollipops, ice tea, excercise... all help. I'm still eating like a fucking pig though. I just ate another piece of pecan pie. Damn! I'm gonna eat everything in the cafeteria this week.

I'm gonna go home this afternoon, after work, and just run. I'm gonna run through my neighborhood. I want to run till I fucking drop. It's gonna be like that scene from Forrest Gump. All I want is for anything to make these cravings go away. Anything except tobacco.

One more minute down.
Title: Re: Day one for me.
Post by: MikeCO on March 25, 2009, 02:34:00 PM
Good for you Brad! Keep it up man. Likewise, great talking with you today.

For me, I'm hitting a depression-like funk. I keep thinking about (and noticing) the craves and the whole time thinking to myself "ah, when I get home I can satisfy the urge" (cause that's what I was doing since early January....leaving the can at home and not with me at work). Then I get bitch slapped into reality....CAUSE I AINT GOT ANY CHEW AT HOME WAITING FOR ME ANYMORE.

Maybe I'll get out a little tonight and go for a walk instead of moping around....

Mike
Title: Re: Day one for me.
Post by: Brad64 on March 25, 2009, 03:13:00 PM
Quote from: MikeCO
Good for you Brad! Keep it up man. Likewise, great talking with you today.

For me, I'm hitting a depression-like funk. I keep thinking about (and noticing) the craves and the whole time thinking to myself "ah, when I get home I can satisfy the urge" (cause that's what I was doing since early January....leaving the can at home and not with me at work). Then I get bitch slapped into reality....CAUSE I AINT GOT ANY CHEW AT HOME WAITING FOR ME ANYMORE.

Maybe I'll get out a little tonight and go for a walk instead of moping around....

Mike
I know. It really is depressing. I'm definitely gonna go for a walk and a run. I gotta do something or I'm gonna go fucking nuts. I'm sick of candy.

Another minute down. Good!
Title: Re: Day one for me.
Post by: DanTheMan on March 25, 2009, 04:15:00 PM
Hey guys
I was feeling the same a couple weeks ago. Read this, it helped me get through some of that depression bullshit: http://www.killthecan.org/robs/mychew.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/robs/mychew.asp)
Title: Re: Day one for me.
Post by: Brad64 on March 25, 2009, 05:25:00 PM
Quote from: KodiakDan
Hey guys
I was feeling the same a couple weeks ago. Read this, it helped me get through some of that depression bullshit: http://www.killthecan.org/robs/mychew.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/robs/mychew.asp)
Damn. That's powerful. And every word of it is true.
Title: Re: Day one for me.
Post by: MikeCO on March 25, 2009, 05:55:00 PM
A little test just now, and it really pissed me off. Pulled into the garage with the car and noticed the front tire going flat/hissing. FUCK, where's my chew? Oh yea, I don't have any. FUCK FUCK FUCK!

Took a breather and jacked the mofo up and removed it. Now I'm waiting for my wife to come home to run me back down into town to have it fixed.

Well, I made it thru that little test......eat shit nic-bitch.

Mike
Title: Re: Day one for me.
Post by: Brad64 on March 25, 2009, 06:30:00 PM
Quote from: MikeCO
A little test just now, and it really pissed me off. Pulled into the garage with the car and noticed the front tire going flat/hissing. FUCK, where's my chew? Oh yea, I don't have any. FUCK FUCK FUCK!

Took a breather and jacked the mofo up and removed it. Now I'm waiting for my wife to come home to run me back down into town to have it fixed.

Well, I made it thru that little test......eat shit nic-bitch.

Mike
Oh Man! That's a tough test. That would have been a bitch for me to get through.

Nice work Mike!
Title: Re: Day one for me.
Post by: Move Forward on March 25, 2009, 07:27:00 PM
Brad,

Congratulations on day 3 bro, you're doing fantastic. The craves don't last forever and when they come, do the best you can to put your thoughts into something else. Something you enjoy doing, your family, a hobby, anything that can take your mind off of chew..

The fogginess will fade, I'm still a little foggy at times but it isn't as bad as it was. Personally for me, the foggy stage has given me some good stories. Here is a good link about the fog you're experiencing: FOG LINK (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/thefog.asp).

KodiakDan gave a link to a good story about our good friend chew. There are a lot of good articles on the KTC site, which I'm sure you've read some already.

Keep up the great work!

Stay Strong-Stay Quit!

MF
Title: Re: Day one for me.
Post by: Brad64 on March 25, 2009, 07:53:00 PM
Quote from: Move
Brad,

Congratulations on day 3 bro, you're doing fantastic. The craves don't last forever and when they come, do the best you can to put your thoughts into something else. Something you enjoy doing, your family, a hobby, anything that can take your mind off of chew..

The fogginess will fade, I'm still a little foggy at times but it isn't as bad as it was. Personally for me, the foggy stage has given me some good stories. Here is a good link about the fog you're experiencing: FOG LINK (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/thefog.asp).

KodiakDan gave a link to a good story about our good friend chew. There are a lot of good articles on the KTC site, which I'm sure you've read some already.

Keep up the great work!

Stay Strong-Stay Quit!

MF
Thanks for the encouragement MF. We ALL need it!
Title: Re: Day one for me.
Post by: Brad64 on March 27, 2009, 04:00:00 PM
These things taste like a fishing pier smells, but they work. At least for me...

They're very salty at first, then they get sweet and yummy. Like your friend's ex-wife after she's liquored up.

Try'em. No kidding. Most C stores have'em. Put one between your cheek and gum (or lip) and see what you think. They've helped me today.

(http://www.junkfoodblog.com/uploaded_images/sour-patch-extreme.jpg)



EDIT: My images didn't work. Oh well just follow the link to the pic. Sour Patch Extreme (http://www.soursweetgone.com/assets/images/productInformation/packaging/extreme/extreme-2oz.jpg)
Title: Re: Day one for me.
Post by: braden on March 27, 2009, 11:19:00 PM
Quote from: Brad64
These things taste like a fishing pier smells, but they work.  At least for me...

They're very salty at first, then they get sweet and yummy.  Like your friend's ex-wife after she's liquored up. 

Try'em.  No kidding.  Most C stores have'em.  Put one between your cheek and gum (or lip) and see what you think.  They've helped me today.

(http://www.junkfoodblog.com/uploaded_images/sour-patch-extreme.jpg)



EDIT:  My images didn't work.  Oh well just follow the link to the pic. Sour Patch Extreme (http://www.soursweetgone.com/assets/images/productInformation/packaging/extreme/extreme-2oz.jpg)
You bein' serious here? Always looking for something to gnaw on.

The guy at the gas station today was literally laughing at me with my 3 bags of assorted seed flavors, 4 cans of Jerky Chew, 2 packs of gum and some Blow-Pops.
Title: Re: Day one for me.
Post by: Brad64 on March 28, 2009, 06:07:00 AM
Quote from: braden


You bein' serious here? Always looking for something to gnaw on.

The guy at the gas station today was literally laughing at me with my 3 bags of assorted seed flavors, 4 cans of Jerky Chew, 2 packs of gum and some Blow-Pops.
Yeah, absolutely. They work. They're a little nasty at first, very salty, then sweet. For some reason that works for me. It works really well in the car. Which like for most of you is also a trigger for me. The minute my ass hits the seat I wanna put a chew in.

Oh and they're shaped like some mutant fish. So there's that bonus.
Title: Re: Day one for me.
Post by: Brad64 on April 01, 2009, 12:56:00 PM
Edit: Well I screwed up this post. I meant to respond to a few others, but any way the point is the same. I love hearing from others that it's getting a little easier for them as they go along. That's inspiring.

I'm still having some headache causing cravings, but it really is getting easier to deal with this.
Title: Re: Day one for me.
Post by: Smokeyg on April 01, 2009, 09:16:00 PM
Quote from: Brad64
Edit: Well I screwed up this post. I meant to respond to a few others, but any way the point is the same. I love hearing from others that it's getting a little easier for them as they go along. That's inspiring.

I'm still having some headache causing cravings, but it really is getting easier to deal with this.
It definitely get easier.

When does it get easy?