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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: mark11/1/12 on November 01, 2012, 09:42:00 PM
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didn't buy a can this morning; currently 24 hours in. 24 years addiction. so many fucking things i've loved about it. the taste. the smell. the feel. the snap of the tin as i pack it. the relaxation as I put in a dip after a meal. the way it makes a rush hour drive tolerable. best people i've ever known dipped. best times i've had were in the company of dippers.
this could be rough/ugly
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Oh man you are going to get it...... here comes the storm.....
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I'm not going to give you hell, I felt the same as you at one point. I am going to ask you: do you want to quit? if you do read up - start with the welcome center up top on the left, then go to Feb. 13 quit group and post roll. You'll get support like you wouldn't believe if you reach out here and ask for it. If you don't WANT to quit go away... No way in hell you'll make this if you don't want it like mad! Please feel free to pm me if I can help with your quit, or use this intro to ask, or ask your quit brothers in Feb. after you post roll!!
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didn't buy a can this morning; currently 24 hours in. 24 years addiction. so many fucking things i've loved about it. the taste. the smell. the feel. the snap of the tin as i pack it. the relaxation as I put in a dip after a meal. the way it makes a rush hour drive tolerable. best people i've ever known dipped. best times i've had were in the company of dippers.
this could be rough/ugly
There are some great people here too. Stay close, post roll, and find a happy place.
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If you are serious about everything you said. There is no way in hell you will quit! Mich is right I felt some of those feelings too but not the day, week or month before I quit! I hated what dip had done to me, to my relationship with my wife, the freedom I had lost, the teeth I had lost, the gum grafts and on and on!
You are right this will be rough and ugly, we have all experienced the SUCK!!! If you desire to regain your freedom you are in the right place but if don't troll somewhere else! You still haven't posted roll. :ph43r:
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What?!?! Do you make sweet love to your tin too? My God you better chaynge your attitude about this SHIT. You're still fucking in LOVE with it!!!! Do you have ANY reason for quitting? Sure doesn't sound like it. Why are you quitting? Glamourising this crap when you're trying to quit is a reciepie for disaster.
"The taste, the smell, the feel"?????? Dude....you're here to quit, I assume. You have to build a hatred for this filth. Truth is you do not love it, your ADDICTED TO IT. Your brain has been posioned for years to think you love it, but you don't.
You love family, friends, LIFE. You don't love some posion weed that will kill you. You gotta change your attitude bro. Think about how this shit has been controlling your life for 24 years!!!! Think how great it will feel to get that freedom back. It wont be easy but it will be so worth it.
I gotta say this is one of the weakest most pathetic intro posts I have ever read. Until you can give me some reasons why you're here and want to quit, I'm not gonna waste anymore time on you. Others here might coddle you but I wont. Prove to me your serious and Ill be your biggest supporter. Until then, like WT said, go troll somewhere else and wear a condom before you bang another tin.
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What?!?! Do you make sweet love to your tin too? My God you better chaynge your attitude about this SHIT. You're still fucking in LOVE with it!!!! Do you have ANY reason for quitting? Sure doesn't sound like it. Why are you quitting? Glamourising this crap when you're trying to quit is a reciepie for disaster.
"The taste, the smell, the feel"?????? Dude....you're here to quit, I assume. You have to build a hatred for this filth. Truth is you do not love it, your ADDICTED TO IT. Your brain has been posioned for years to think you love it, but you don't.
You love family, friends, LIFE. You don't love some posion weed that will kill you. You gotta change your attitude bro. Think about how this shit has been controlling your life for 24 years!!!! Think how great it will feel to get that freedom back. It wont be easy but it will be so worth it.
I gotta say this is one of the weakest most pathetic intro posts I have ever read. Until you can give me some reasons why you're here and want to quit, I'm not gonna waste anymore time on you. Others here might coddle you but I wont. Prove to me your serious and Ill be your biggest supporter. Until then, like WT said, go troll somewhere else and wear a condom before you bang another tin.
What he said...
He wont make it
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didn't buy a can this morning; currently 24 hours in. 24 years addiction. so many fucking things i've loved about it. the taste. the smell. the feel. the snap of the tin as i pack it. the relaxation as I put in a dip after a meal. the way it makes a rush hour drive tolerable. best people i've ever known dipped. best times i've had were in the company of dippers.Â
this could be rough/ugly
Lets start with the truth. You are an addict and have been for 24 years. You are addicted to nicotine which is an additive to chewing tabacco. That taste and smell are put in there to cover up the horrible nicotine chemicals. The feel and relaxation was your body getting its fix and temporaly covering up its withdrawl symptoms until your next fix. If the best people you have ever known were nicotine addicts then you need better role models and if you only had the best times in the company of addicts spitting brown saliva into bottles or on the ground. You can do so much better. Look in the fucking mirror. See the truth for what it is. It will be rough and ugly but it will get better. Join us and be free.
PM me if you are serious and really want to quit and change your life.
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didn't buy a can this morning; currently 24 hours in. 24 years addiction. so many fucking things i've loved about it. the taste. the smell. the feel. the snap of the tin as i pack it. the relaxation as I put in a dip after a meal. the way it makes a rush hour drive tolerable. best people i've ever known dipped. best times i've had were in the company of dippers.
this could be rough/ugly
Did you love the dental bills? Did you love spitting brown shit into the sink after you brush your teeth? Did you love the dip stains on your clothes, rugs and vehicle? Did you love the ass breath? Did you love how much money you spent to kill yourself? Did you love the shit under your fingernails? Did you love all the chicks falling at your feet with a big apeshit lip full of poison? Did you love the high blood pressure? Did you love always needing a dip to feel normal? Did you love the mood swings? Did you love not being there for your family? Will you love dying at a young age, leave family and friends behind? Fucking moron.
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didn't buy a can this morning; currently 24 hours in. 24 years addiction. so many fucking things i've loved about it. the taste. the smell. the feel. the snap of the tin as i pack it. the relaxation as I put in a dip after a meal. the way it makes a rush hour drive tolerable. best people i've ever known dipped. best times i've had were in the company of dippers.Â
this could be rough/ugly
Did you love the dental bills? Did you love spitting brown shit into the sink after you brush your teeth? Did you love the dip stains on your clothes, rugs and vehicle? Did you love the ass breath? Did you love how much money you spent to kill yourself? Did you love the shit under your fingernails? Did you love all the chicks falling at your feet with a big apeshit lip full of poison? Did you love the high blood pressure? Did you love always needing a dip to feel normal? Did you love the mood swings? Did you love not being there for your family? Will you love dying at a young age, leave family and friends behind? Fucking moron.
Exactly! Pussy can't even come back and explain or defend himself? Probably cuddled up in bed with his tin about to make love to it over and over again. His dick will probably get cancer before his mouth he LOVES the FEEL of it so much.
This is a quitting site, not a site where you write love letters to nicotine.
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If you love it so much, why are you quitting?
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"The feeling" can only be had if you're alive. The shit you love will kill you. I used to think I loved it too, but now it quite frankly disgusts me.
I love reading pussy stories like these.. I eat them for lunch.. Makes my quit even stronger.. Glad I'm not a pussy..
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You serious about quitting? If so, then there are some things you've got to get your head wrapped around.
1. You DO NOT love nicotine or tobacco. I once thougth the same thing.
2. You DO love the result of relieving withdrawal symtoms.
3. As soon (even seconds) after a dip looses its nicotine, your addiction begins causing withdrawal symptoms.
4. Your brain only knows one way to alleviate that: more nicotine.
5. So, your sense of pleasure is being held hostage.
6. After you've been quit a while, you will begin to gain pleasure from other things.
7. "Normal" people (non-addicts) already know what those things are.
Here are some questions:
- Do you love giving yourself cancer?
- Do you love destroying your teeth and gums?
- Do you love having your family avoid you? (I never noticed how much.)
- Do you love your throat burning?
- Do you love spending your hard-earned on increasingly expensive shit that is killing you?
- Do you love being constantly burdened with a spit cup/bottle/puddle?
Post up that day one and let's do this thing. You know you need to.
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interesting comments.
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interesting comments.
Are you serious about quitting? If so, let's hear why....
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interesting comments.
Hey man, This isn't about whether Sue Ann let's you feel her boobies at the drive in. This is about your life and strangers caring enough to reach out, committed to your sorry ass. You gonna post up or reminisce?
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been two days. doing ok. there seems to be a lot of hostility in this group. maybe being honest makes me a pussy.
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been two days. doing ok. there seems to be a lot of hostility in this group. maybe being honest makes me a pussy.
Hostility aside, if you like it so much...why quit?
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been two days. doing ok. there seems to be a lot of hostility in this group. maybe being honest makes me a pussy.
Not Hostility, truth. Every last thing that has been said after your intitial post has been the truth. Many times the truth is hard to hear but it might just save a life.
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been two days. doing ok. there seems to be a lot of hostility in this group. maybe being honest makes me a pussy.
Not Hostility, truth. Every last thing that has been said after your intitial post has been the truth. Many times the truth is hard to hear but it might just save a life.
It's time to think about the things you HATE about dip, and also to consider the possibility that many of the things you think you "love" about dip are simply nothing more than fantasies created by an addict brain that will do anything to get a nicotine fix.
You need to be proactive about this and actively battle that part of you that is drawn to your addiction. Post roll, honor your promise, repeat. Eschew slavery. Choose Freedom.
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been two days. doing ok. there seems to be a lot of hostility in this group. maybe being honest makes me a pussy.
Honesty does not make you a pussy. Writing a love letter to dip does. Stick around and remain quit for 100 days and then tell us you honestly love dip.
Still would like to hear why you quit and why you're worth supporting.
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been two days. doing ok. there seems to be a lot of hostility in this group. maybe being honest makes me a pussy.
Honesty does not make you a pussy. Writing a love letter to dip does. Stick around and remain quit for 100 days and then tell us you honestly love dip.
Still would like to hear why you quit and why you're worth supporting.
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it is not hostility that you are seeing. What it is, is alot of gents that have been in the position that you are currently in, AND they are trying to make you understand that to maintain a strong quit, that you must be in it 100%. You must think, you must feel, you must talk and write QUIT.
Listen to what they are saying, make it a part of the quit that you want. You are here, you reached out and this is our way of saying welcome to the group and wanting you to be in the right frame of mind in order for your quit to be successful.
So straighten up, and kick that nic bitch right between the eyes and tell her good bye.
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Hey Mark, read this.
index.php?showtopic=4525 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=4525)
Nicotine never did anything for you, this is what these guys are trying to tell you.
Stick with the program, you will understand in time. I promise.
If you don't stick with the program, you will never know.
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Yeah, were hostile alright. When you realize the lines of bullshit you have put so much faith in are all lies your going to be hostile too.
That little copper headed fuck bucket you think you enjoy so much ain't nothin but a tub full of cancer.
You'll learn how it doesn't actually relax you. Thats just the relief from withdrawl your feeling. That will kinda get you pissed
Then you'll learn how much time you spent the last 24 years avoiding relationships, friends, family, social engagements, etc so you could dip.
That'll kinda ruffle your feathers as well.
Then you'll start realizing the damage that shit does to your heart, sex life, brain, and gut. The fact that nicotine is more lethal ounce for ounce than cobra venom may suprise you. Might get ya down right hostile.
Maybe you'll start to wonder how they can sell a product that when used properly will kill you. Cancer isn't the only way, but it gets you eventually.
Then my addicted pal, you'll realize how much money you've wasted on a ridiculous weed. My number has 4 digits in it. How bout yours? pissed yet?
finally your going to realize your an addict. The only difference between you and a crack head is your choice of drugs. When you fully understand that little gem, I guarantee your going to be a bit hostile.
The hostility you feel is only directed at you because your the mirror image of all of us on day 3.
90% of the guys here posted something just like you at one point. about missing it, or it being a friend , or a crutch, or some other nonsense, they stuck around and now they know the truth, and it pisses them of to realize how decieved we once were.
US Tobacco can kiss my hairy ass if they think they are ever gettin another penny from me. I wouldnt spit on those death dealers if they were on fire. Hostile? nah I'm fucking murderous.
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Mark, (In my best non-hostile voice),
Go to the Feb 2013 quit group. Post your quit pledge each day earlier the better.
If you have any questions on how to do this go to the WELCOME CENTER, above and read all about it.
We want and will support you but you have to be committed and bring the quit 1 day at a time.
This system works. Don't set yourself up for failure. Work the system.
Your Feb 2013 quit group is waiting for you. Oh, any burn all those "I love Cope" t-shirts you own too. :rolleyes:
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heading into day 4. still doing OK. got a little jittery last night because I wasn't distracted. spent 30 min with the heavy bag in the garage and then went to bed. doing ok now.
I am not questioning your tactics. I have no doubt they have worked for you and all the people here, I appreciate all the support and advice. really. you're wondering about my motives. as for why I decided to quit, I really don't have a good answer. wed. morning, instead of turning into the 7/11 and buying a tin, I didn't. I guess it was time for a change. I'm not angry. I don't think anyone was trying to kill me. I had consistently made a bad decision every third day by turning into the 7/11 and buying another tin based on an addiction. Or maybe, more accurately, it based on a poor set of psychological assumptions about what I was doing, and the circumstances the I associated with those decisions. thankfully, at this point, the only adverse consequences of my poor decisions has been money pissed away. and hopefully, by quitting now, that will be the only adverse consequence.
thank you for your continued support, and I'll go and post up.
Mark
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heading into day 4. still doing OK. got a little jittery last night because I wasn't distracted. spent 30 min with the heavy bag in the garage and then went to bed. doing ok now.
I am not questioning your tactics. I have no doubt they have worked for you and all the people here, I appreciate all the support and advice. really. you're wondering about my motives. as for why I decided to quit, I really don't have a good answer. wed. morning, instead of turning into the 7/11 and buying a tin, I didn't. I guess it was time for a change. I'm not angry. I don't think anyone was trying to kill me. I had consistently made a bad decision every third day by turning into the 7/11 and buying another tin based on an addiction. Or maybe, more accurately, it based on a poor set of psychological assumptions about what I was doing, and the circumstances the I associated with those decisions. thankfully, at this point, the only adverse consequences of my poor decisions has been money pissed away. and hopefully, by quitting now, that will be the only adverse consequence.
thank you for your continued support, and I'll go and post up.
Mark
Yes. Please go post up. I think deep down you "have some answers" about why you quit, but I'm not gonna bust your balls about it. You're 4 days quit and I respect that. Still think you're attitude isn't very good but I'm here to support you anytime you need it. Pm me anytime.
I have a feeling if you stick with this quit, the tone and attitude of your posts will change. Hope I'm right.