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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: chucklehead on October 26, 2010, 11:16:00 AM
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I'm calling today day 2. I started the quit last Friday when I ran out and got some of those nicotine lazanges. Didn't have a chew all weekend and ran into this site on Monday. Read the advice on the nic replacements, that made sense to me, so I threw away everything I had. I've been cold turkey since yesterday.
This is my second quit. First time I got about 4 or 5 months in. Was great. No fake stuff, no nic supplements. Was totally off it. One bad day at work, a little extra stress in my life got me back on it for a few more years.
All in all, been dipping since I was 17 and I just turned 30. Just sick of it. Sick of the hassel of always having to feed the cravings. Always having to run to the gas station. Always having spitters lying around the house, in the car, in my office. Always having to make sure I don't leave the house without the can because lord knows I couldn't make it through the day without tossing one in. Fuck it. I just want to be done.
My only fear is that I'm never gunna get anything done now because I've associated dipping my everything in my life (except sex thank god). I can't yet see how I'll accomplish anything without a dip. I'm sure I'll have to relearn most everything.
Even though I've already got a bunch of sores in my mouth, I was surprised to not have my mouth taste like a bag of shit when I woke up this morning. There's my first benefit of being quit.
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Congrats on making a great choice. Find your quit group, post roll, stay nic free all day, and repeat.
YOU will do this if YOU want to do this. You've taken the first step, let us help you with the rest.
"Yesterday + 1" is your new motto. You don't have to think about quitting forever, just focus on today...then repeat.
Read everything you can on this site. Read about the Kern family. You are fighting for your life right now...and the nic bitch doesn't give up easily. She'll tempt you with rationalizations and cravings...ignore that shit. Get back on this site, focus on your quit and you'll win.
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I'm calling today day 2. I started the quit last Friday when I ran out and got some of those nicotine lazanges. Didn't have a chew all weekend and ran into this site on Monday. Read the advice on the nic replacements, that made sense to me, so I threw away everything I had. I've been cold turkey since yesterday.
This is my second quit. First time I got about 4 or 5 months in. Was great. No fake stuff, no nic supplements. Was totally off it. One bad day at work, a little extra stress in my life got me back on it for a few more years.
All in all, been dipping since I was 17 and I just turned 30. Just sick of it. Sick of the hassel of always having to feed the cravings. Always having to run to the gas station. Always having spitters lying around the house, in the car, in my office. Always having to make sure I don't leave the house without the can because lord knows I couldn't make it through the day without tossing one in. Fuck it. I just want to be done.
My only fear is that I'm never gunna get anything done now because I've associated dipping my everything in my life (except sex thank god). I can't yet see how I'll accomplish anything without a dip. I'm sure I'll have to relearn most everything.
Even though I've already got a bunch of sores in my mouth, I was surprised to not have my mouth taste like a bag of shit when I woke up this morning. There's my first benefit of being quit.
Welcome aboard chucklehead!!
You've already made 3 kick ass decisions.
1. Choosing to Quit
2. Throwing out the lozenge
3. Finding this site
I'm not gonna lie to you, it's gonna suck.... just for a little while.
Then you will discover that you can do daily functions without a wad of shit in your face.
Things like:
getting out of bed without putting a dip in
taking a shower without putting a dip in
shaving without putting a dip in
shitting without putting a dip in
driving without putting a dip in
working without putting a dip in
chores around the house without putting a dip in
watching TV without putting dip in
LIVING YOUR FUCKING LIFE WITHOUT PUTTING A DIP IN !!!!!!!!
You already know the power of the NicBitch. She teases you into thinking that your stressed and could use a dip. Or that you can handle "just one".
You can't. Your an addict.
Join your group, Febuary, and post roll every day.
Enjoy the ride. You can do it, we are proof of it.
Brian
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My only fear is that I'm never gunna get anything done now because I've associated dipping my everything in my life (except sex thank god). I can't yet see how I'll accomplish anything without a dip. I'm sure I'll have to relearn most everything.
I think that everybody here felt that way, believe me you will get stuff done, because that is one of the things that get you through. I found that facing the fact that I was having a crave, actually identifying it in my mind and verbaly talking to myself "This is a crave, I know what this feels like now - fuck you crave" and saying that verbally then concentrating on the task at hand really helped. This direct association with action vs feeling really got me through and still does.
Don't give in - Enjoy Life - Stay Quit
Next up - not shitting for a week
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My only fear is that I'm never gunna get anything done now because I've associated dipping my everything in my life (except sex thank god). I can't yet see how I'll accomplish anything without a dip. I'm sure I'll have to relearn most everything.
I think that everybody here felt that way, believe me you will get stuff done, because that is one of the things that get you through. I found that facing the fact that I was having a crave, actually identifying it in my mind and verbaly talking to myself "This is a crave, I know what this feels like now - fuck you crave" and saying that verbally then concentrating on the task at hand really helped. This direct association with action vs feeling really got me through and still does.
Don't give in - Enjoy Life - Stay Quit
Next up - not shitting for a week
You got it!! Brian's right, start making a list of all the shit you can do with a dip. I was the same way, i couldn't go get the mail without a dip in.
1. get mail
2. take a dump
3. walk the dog
on and on, soon your list will be as long as moa's imaginary johnson!
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Check your in box (1 ). Upper right corner.
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Day 3 sucks worse than Day 2 did. From what I here that's not abnormal. between now and Friday I should have all of the nic out of my body.
It doesn't help that this morning was more stressful that others. I found myself thinking, "I'll be out of this meeting in a few minutes then I can go to my office and put in a chew." or "I wish this guy would get out of my office so I could throw in a chew.".
I've reached for my desk drawer out of habit this morning.
I'm going to have more of a problem with the concept of forever than with the withdrawal.
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Day 3 sucks worse than Day 2 did. From what I here that's not abnormal. between now and Friday I should have all of the nic out of my body.
It doesn't help that this morning was more stressful that others. I found myself thinking, "I'll be out of this meeting in a few minutes then I can go to my office and put in a chew." or "I wish this guy would get out of my office so I could throw in a chew.".
I've reached for my desk drawer out of habit this morning.
I'm going to have more of a problem with the concept of forever than with the withdrawal.
Dealing With Craves The Concept Of Forever: http://www.killthecan.org/facts/cravesforever.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/cravesforever.asp)
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This is gut check time...are you tougher than the nic bitch? Do you have the will power to focus on this site and not put that shit in your mouth? I hope so...I really hope so. Because if not, you might want to select a grave site.
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Day 3 sucks worse than Day 2 did. From what I here that's not abnormal. between now and Friday I should have all of the nic out of my body.
It doesn't help that this morning was more stressful that others. I found myself thinking, "I'll be out of this meeting in a few minutes then I can go to my office and put in a chew." or "I wish this guy would get out of my office so I could throw in a chew.".
I've reached for my desk drawer out of habit this morning.
I'm going to have more of a problem with the concept of forever than with the withdrawal.
Hang in there brother. It sucks now but it will get easier.
Don't worry about forever, worry about today. Then get up in the morning, post roll and worry about that day.....repeat.
It takes a while to break those mental barriers but you will do it. Remember that you are in control now, not the Nic Bitch.
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Day 3 sucks worse than Day 2 did. From what I here that's not abnormal. between now and Friday I should have all of the nic out of my body.Â
It doesn't help that this morning was more stressful that others. I found myself thinking, "I'll be out of this meeting in a few minutes then I can go to my office and put in a chew." or "I wish this guy would get out of my office so I could throw in a chew.".Â
I've reached for my desk drawer out of habit this morning.
I'm going to have more of a problem with the concept of forever than with the withdrawal.
Hang in there brother. It sucks now but it will get easier.
Don't worry about forever, worry about today. Then get up in the morning, post roll and worry about that day.....repeat.
It takes a while to break those mental barriers but you will do it. Remember that you are in control now, not the Nic Bitch.
Like my man Brian says do this one day at a time. Break it down to an hour or a minute at a time if you have to.
You are right, the mental part of this is difficult but not impossible. Get your mind right and lets get this done.
Read the article Chewie sent you, there are others on the concept of doing this one day at a time. IT CAN BE DONE !!
STAY QUIT
Greg
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Was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on this:
I was a chewer that always had to have one it. watching tv, at work, driving, etc, etc, etc. and i always tosses little dips in so I could get away with gutting it and not having it be very obvious. I'd even toss it in a little guy during meetings at work. Needless to say, the fake stuff has been a big deal for me just from the habit / restlessness point of view.
I'm 8-9 days into my quit and everything is going as well as could be expected. I feel like I past all the worst stuff and having less extreme craves.
My question is this. I'd like to eventually get away from using the fake stuff to just living a normal life without having to do some weird habit all the time. Am I not making a big enough effort to not use the fake stuff too?
Any thoughts?
Thanks.
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Was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on this:
I was a chewer that always had to have one it. watching tv, at work, driving, etc, etc, etc. and i always tosses little dips in so I could get away with gutting it and not having it be very obvious. I'd even toss it in a little guy during meetings at work. Needless to say, the fake stuff has been a big deal for me just from the habit / restlessness point of view.
I'm 8-9 days into my quit and everything is going as well as could be expected. I feel like I past all the worst stuff and having less extreme craves.
My question is this. I'd like to eventually get away from using the fake stuff to just living a normal life without having to do some weird habit all the time. Am I not making a big enough effort to not use the fake stuff too?
Any thoughts?
Thanks.
This is debated every time a new group gets started. Here is my opinion.
I used fake early on in my quit, used it almost like I did the real stuff. It is grass and weeds so it is not addictive. I say use it as you need it. Over time you will just naturally stop using it.
I still have two cans in my golf bag that I have been carrying around for months. I still keep some around as part of my quit plan, but I do not use it like I was early on.
Get some gum, seeds, straws, toothpics,candy. They all help.
STAY QUIT
Greg
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Was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on this:
I was a chewer that always had to have one it. watching tv, at work, driving, etc, etc, etc. and i always tosses little dips in so I could get away with gutting it and not having it be very obvious. I'd even toss it in a little guy during meetings at work. Needless to say, the fake stuff has been a big deal for me just from the habit / restlessness point of view.
I'm 8-9 days into my quit and everything is going as well as could be expected. I feel like I past all the worst stuff and having less extreme craves.
My question is this. I'd like to eventually get away from using the fake stuff to just living a normal life without having to do some weird habit all the time. Am I not making a big enough effort to not use the fake stuff too?
Any thoughts?
Thanks.
I would do whatever you have to keep nicotene out of your system. What ever it takes. Everyone's quit is a bit different. For me, I never used the fake and don't need it. However, I have become the meanest, most angry man on the planet. I've had to leave work early a couple times because I couldn't deal with the idiots around me. I just don't have the patience for stupid people like I used to. Shit even now I sound like a mean bastard, and I'm really not one.
Not to hijack your thread, but at what point does one consider valium or ativan?
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Was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on this:
I was a chewer that always had to have one it. watching tv, at work, driving, etc, etc, etc. and i always tosses little dips in so I could get away with gutting it and not having it be very obvious. I'd even toss it in a little guy during meetings at work. Needless to say, the fake stuff has been a big deal for me just from the habit / restlessness point of view.
I'm 8-9 days into my quit and everything is going as well as could be expected. I feel like I past all the worst stuff and having less extreme craves.Â
My question is this. I'd like to eventually get away from using the fake stuff to just living a normal life without having to do some weird habit all the time. Am I not making a big enough effort to not use the fake stuff too?
Any thoughts?
Thanks.
I would do whatever you have to keep nicotene out of your system. What ever it takes. Everyone's quit is a bit different. For me, I never used the fake and don't need it. However, I have become the meanest, most angry man on the planet. I've had to leave work early a couple times because I couldn't deal with the idiots around me. I just don't have the patience for stupid people like I used to. Shit even now I sound like a mean bastard, and I'm really not one.
Not to hijack your thread, but at what point does one consider valium or ativan?
You are very early in your quit and you shouldn't be worrying about getting away from the fake snuff right now. The fake snuff or any other non-nicotene product you use is going to be your lifeline for a while. So just relax and do whatever you feel is right to stay nic free.
From my experience I used mint snuff off and on for about 3 weeks but I was also chewing a lot of gum to help me get by. Nowadays I hardly have a crave for a dip and I don't care for the fake anymore. I just chew some juicy fruit and move on.
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I didn't use the fake stuff, but I think you should do whatever you have to to stay nic free. You already consider it a stupid habit. So I bet that it will be easy to quit when you're ready...just my guess. I'm not using the fake because I am concerned it might irritate my gums, cause receding gums, etc. Does anyone know?
Also, Teaka, I totally understand...I've had to leave early a few times too...for same reason. The receptionist's voice irritates me (like in Office Space), the mess in our kitchen and microwave pisses me off, co-workers who are late to work, etc. When did I become the a-hole? These things never really bothered me before. In fact, I used to make fun of old farts who acted like I do now?!!! I hope this passes...but I'm already at 50 days.
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Was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on this:
I was a chewer that always had to have one it. watching tv, at work, driving, etc, etc, etc. and i always tosses little dips in so I could get away with gutting it and not having it be very obvious. I'd even toss it in a little guy during meetings at work. Needless to say, the fake stuff has been a big deal for me just from the habit / restlessness point of view.
I'm 8-9 days into my quit and everything is going as well as could be expected. I feel like I past all the worst stuff and having less extreme craves.Â
My question is this. I'd like to eventually get away from using the fake stuff to just living a normal life without having to do some weird habit all the time. Am I not making a big enough effort to not use the fake stuff too?
Any thoughts?
Thanks.
I would do whatever you have to keep nicotene out of your system. What ever it takes. Everyone's quit is a bit different. For me, I never used the fake and don't need it. However, I have become the meanest, most angry man on the planet. I've had to leave work early a couple times because I couldn't deal with the idiots around me. I just don't have the patience for stupid people like I used to. Shit even now I sound like a mean bastard, and I'm really not one.
Not to hijack your thread, but at what point does one consider valium or ativan?
My Badger Quit Brother is correct.
The biggest concern for you now is not putting nicotine in your system.
I never used the fake stuff for one reason. Because going through the ritual of opening a can, carrying the can, putting shit in my lip would be too much for me and I feared I would cave.
But if it's working for you then stick with it. It will be much easier to stop the fake when you're ready.
STAY STRONG-STAY QUIT
Brian
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Was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on this:
I was a chewer that always had to have one it. watching tv, at work, driving, etc, etc, etc. and i always tosses little dips in so I could get away with gutting it and not having it be very obvious. I'd even toss it in a little guy during meetings at work. Needless to say, the fake stuff has been a big deal for me just from the habit / restlessness point of view.
I'm 8-9 days into my quit and everything is going as well as could be expected. I feel like I past all the worst stuff and having less extreme craves.Â
My question is this. I'd like to eventually get away from using the fake stuff to just living a normal life without having to do some weird habit all the time. Am I not making a big enough effort to not use the fake stuff too?
Any thoughts?
Thanks.
I would do whatever you have to keep nicotene out of your system. What ever it takes. Everyone's quit is a bit different. For me, I never used the fake and don't need it. However, I have become the meanest, most angry man on the planet. I've had to leave work early a couple times because I couldn't deal with the idiots around me. I just don't have the patience for stupid people like I used to. Shit even now I sound like a mean bastard, and I'm really not one.
Not to hijack your thread, but at what point does one consider valium or ativan?
My Badger Quit Brother is correct.
The biggest concern for you now is not putting nicotine in your system.
I never used the fake stuff for one reason. Because going through the ritual of opening a can, carrying the can, putting shit in my lip would be too much for me and I feared I would cave.
But if it's working for you then stick with it. It will be much easier to stop the fake when you're ready.
STAY STRONG-STAY QUIT
Brian
I was in the same boat as brain and teaka. From what most guys tell me, you will eventually find youself not needed fake. But, for right now...do absolutely whatever it takes to keep the real stuff out. The rest will take care of itself.
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Was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on this:
I was a chewer that always had to have one it. watching tv, at work, driving, etc, etc, etc. and i always tosses little dips in so I could get away with gutting it and not having it be very obvious. I'd even toss it in a little guy during meetings at work. Needless to say, the fake stuff has been a big deal for me just from the habit / restlessness point of view.
I'm 8-9 days into my quit and everything is going as well as could be expected. I feel like I past all the worst stuff and having less extreme craves.Â
My question is this. I'd like to eventually get away from using the fake stuff to just living a normal life without having to do some weird habit all the time. Am I not making a big enough effort to not use the fake stuff too?
Any thoughts?
Thanks.
I would do whatever you have to keep nicotene out of your system. What ever it takes. Everyone's quit is a bit different. For me, I never used the fake and don't need it. However, I have become the meanest, most angry man on the planet. I've had to leave work early a couple times because I couldn't deal with the idiots around me. I just don't have the patience for stupid people like I used to. Shit even now I sound like a mean bastard, and I'm really not one.
Not to hijack your thread, but at what point does one consider valium or ativan?
My Badger Quit Brother is correct.
The biggest concern for you now is not putting nicotine in your system.
I never used the fake stuff for one reason. Because going through the ritual of opening a can, carrying the can, putting shit in my lip would be too much for me and I feared I would cave.
But if it's working for you then stick with it. It will be much easier to stop the fake when you're ready.
STAY STRONG-STAY QUIT
Brian
I was in the same boat as brain and teaka. From what most guys tell me, you will eventually find youself not needed fake. But, for right now...do absolutely whatever it takes to keep the real stuff out. The rest will take care of itself.
I am only at 44 days so by no means a pro. However I was told that this is my quit and I must protect it! For me that is using the fake like its going out of style. I too had always had a pinch in my mouth. In the begining of my quit I was going through A can of Smokey every two days. Now its taking about four days per can. However the best part---When I run out of smokey in the evening watching TV. I can tell myself ahhh I will pick up some tomorrow. Back in the day that would of been an emergancy trip to the gas station. Bottom line---If you are going through two cans of fake every day who fucken cares.. Keep that nic out of your mouth and you will find ---eventually no need for the fake
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Was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on this:
I was a chewer that always had to have one it. watching tv, at work, driving, etc, etc, etc. and i always tosses little dips in so I could get away with gutting it and not having it be very obvious. I'd even toss it in a little guy during meetings at work. Needless to say, the fake stuff has been a big deal for me just from the habit / restlessness point of view.
I'm 8-9 days into my quit and everything is going as well as could be expected. I feel like I past all the worst stuff and having less extreme craves.Â
My question is this. I'd like to eventually get away from using the fake stuff to just living a normal life without having to do some weird habit all the time. Am I not making a big enough effort to not use the fake stuff too?
Any thoughts?
Thanks.
I would do whatever you have to keep nicotene out of your system. What ever it takes. Everyone's quit is a bit different. For me, I never used the fake and don't need it. However, I have become the meanest, most angry man on the planet. I've had to leave work early a couple times because I couldn't deal with the idiots around me. I just don't have the patience for stupid people like I used to. Shit even now I sound like a mean bastard, and I'm really not one.
Not to hijack your thread, but at what point does one consider valium or ativan?
Hijack successful. . .but only because I think it's an important question. If I remember correctly, there was someone in October '10 who started some anti anxiety meds in the 60s or 70s. If it's not getting at least a little better, bring it up to your doc.
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I'm day 109 and I'm just now starting to back off the fake stuff... I was a lot like you, always having to have one in, and the oral fixation was a big part of it for me.
I figured I would fight one war at a time, I wanted the nicotine gone and I was willing to deal with the fake stuff to make sure that happened. Now that I am (more) comfortable in my quit the fake is on it's way out too....
Hope it helps
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Thanks for the thoughts. I'll keep sucking on that hooch (that sound weird, doesn't it?) for the forseeable future.
BTW, ordered a few cans of the hooch. Its way better than the smokey mountain stuff I can get at walmart.
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I didn't use the fake stuff, but I think you should do whatever you have to to stay nic free. You already consider it a stupid habit. So I bet that it will be easy to quit when you're ready...just my guess. I'm not using the fake because I am concerned it might irritate my gums, cause receding gums, etc. Does anyone know?
Also, Teaka, I totally understand...I've had to leave early a few times too...for same reason. The receptionist's voice irritates me (like in Office Space), the mess in our kitchen and microwave pisses me off, co-workers who are late to work, etc. When did I become the a-hole? These things never really bothered me before. In fact, I used to make fun of old farts who acted like I do now?!!! I hope this passes...but I'm already at 50 days.
Yep, I am fine with my quit at home. Its work that is killing me because I can't control things as well. Its obvious now that I used dipping as a major cope mechanism (no pun intended). Every little problem drives me nuts now and I have little patience.
I know if I went and got a prescription of valium or antivan (anti-anxiety) my quit would be 100 times easier......however am I not kinda cheating? Will I become addicted to them? Will I just be delaying having to deal with the anxiety until later when I get off the anti-anxiety meds?
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I didn't use the fake stuff, but I think you should do whatever you have to to stay nic free. You already consider it a stupid habit. So I bet that it will be easy to quit when you're ready...just my guess. I'm not using the fake because I am concerned it might irritate my gums, cause receding gums, etc. Does anyone know?
Also, Teaka, I totally understand...I've had to leave early a few times too...for same reason. The receptionist's voice irritates me (like in Office Space), the mess in our kitchen and microwave pisses me off, co-workers who are late to work, etc. When did I become the a-hole? These things never really bothered me before. In fact, I used to make fun of old farts who acted like I do now?!!! I hope this passes...but I'm already at 50 days.
Yep, I am fine with my quit at home. Its work that is killing me because I can't control things as well. Its obvious now that I used dipping as a major cope mechanism (no pun intended). Every little problem drives me nuts now and I have little patience.
I know if I went and got a prescription of valium or antivan (anti-anxiety) my quit would be 100 times easier......however am I not kinda cheating? Will I become addicted to them? Will I just be delaying having to deal with the anxiety until later when I get off the anti-anxiety meds?
For what its worth- I Chewed oregon Mint for the first 500 days . I chewed it like a beaver on crack. If I ran out I'd put a tea bag in my mouth- a REAL tea bag you sick bastards. I bought more gum and seeds and candy than a 5year old fat ass orphan with a million dollars and a sweet tooth.
I also took ativan- Like MM's in the beginning and then less and less. My opinion is this; did it help me quit NO. Does it make it easier ? Yes. WTF does that mean your thinking.
The ativan or other will help with the anxiety, but ultimately you have to learn to handle " life" without dip and without a substitute. I never made an adult decision in my life without a chew in my mouth. I snuck off at my own wedding to have a dip. I have chewed at funerals, weddings, meetings, and in the hospital while my wife was in labor. I started dipping as a kid. I never learned how to handle stress, anxiety, relationships, or any of lifes other bullshit without a dip in my mouth.
So while the ativan took the edge off, I still was faced with the task of learning how to talk to the wife ( patiently) , not kill people at work, etc. I am still learning. I would have quit with or without the drugs and fake, but they are just a tool to put in your arsenal while you gain strength and perspective on your quit. They can help you, but they will not quit for you if that makes sense.
I am now free of the anxiety meds , and only use the Oregon mint , on rare occasions, most recently duck hunting with three dippers. I believe the oral fixation is a separate habit from the nicotine addiction, and I opted to fight them seperately. Others felt that the act of using fake was making their quit harder., it is really a personal decision. If it helps do it.
Long and short is that NOTHING IS CHEATING!!!! this isn't checkers, its no rules bare knuckle boxing to the death. use any means at your disposal to keep quit.
Stay quit
sm
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Ok, so what's the fucking deal? I'm on day 16 and the last few days have felt like starting all over again. I think I read somewhere that some people get heavy craves after a couple weeks, but this shit sucks.
It feels like I caved and am now craving it again. I'm sure I didn't but I actually starting second guessing myself.
What's anyone else's experience with this?
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Ok, so what's the fucking deal? I'm on day 16 and the last few days have felt like starting all over again. I think I read somewhere that some people get heavy craves after a couple weeks, but this shit sucks.
It feels like I caved and am now craving it again. I'm sure I didn't but I actually starting second guessing myself.
What's anyone else's experience with this?
I'm guessing you dipped longer than 16 days right? It's going to take a lot more time than that for your body to adjust to the new normal.
At 227 days, I was walking out of the gym last Saturday morning. I've dropped 15 pounds in the past month...feeling insanely healthy.
You know what pops into my mind as I'm walking out feeling buff, healthy, and all around like a mother f'n p-i-m-p??? Man a dip sure would be awesome right now.
I don't want to burst your bubble or cause you to have a negative outlook, but you are just going to have to accept the fact there will be many craves along the way.
The extremely bright side though is they start to come less and less...and even better is that at 231 days now, well I know how to handle them and so will you the further you progress.
Walking out of the gym, I laughed that bitch off...really honest to goodness laughed out loud. The crazy nic bitch whispering..."Hey you are in the best shape you've been in a long long time...it's a beautiful Fall Saturday. Get you a little dip, it won't hurt." It's fun now laughing them off. Sure a hell of a lot better than locking myself in a closet and praying I make it through a crave.
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Ok, so what's the fucking deal? I'm on day 16 and the last few days have felt like starting all over again. I think I read somewhere that some people get heavy craves after a couple weeks, but this shit sucks.Â
It feels like I caved and am now craving it again. I'm sure I didn't but I actually starting second guessing myself.Â
What's anyone else's experience with this?
I'm guessing you dipped longer than 16 days right? It's going to take a lot more time than that for your body to adjust to the new normal.
At 227 days, I was walking out of the gym last Saturday morning. I've dropped 15 pounds in the past month...feeling insanely healthy.
You know what pops into my mind as I'm walking out feeling buff, healthy, and all around like a mother f'n p-i-m-p??? Man a dip sure would be awesome right now.
I don't want to burst your bubble or cause you to have a negative outlook, but you are just going to have to accept the fact there will be many craves along the way.
The extremely bright side though is they start to come less and less...and even better is that at 231 days now, well I know how to handle them and so will you the further you progress.
Walking out of the gym, I laughed that bitch off...really honest to goodness laughed out loud. The crazy nic bitch whispering..."Hey you are in the best shape you've been in a long long time...it's a beautiful Fall Saturday. Get you a little dip, it won't hurt." It's fun now laughing them off. Sure a hell of a lot better than locking myself in a closet and praying I make it through a crave.
Chuckle,
exercise will definitely help, second and this is a big one WATCH YOUR BLOOD SUGAR LEVELS. A sugar crash will cause you to crave. Cranberry juice is a good one to sip during the day to keep your level up. If your using alot of sweets as a substitue that could be messing with you. Make sure your eating right and keep that blood sugar level stable.
Caffeine can mess with you as well, nicotine reduced the effects of caffeine, if your still drinking the same amount of coffee or triple shot expresso martinis your going to be bouncing of the walls. Ease up on the caff for a few weeks.
Lastly, Don't fixate on it. Acknowledge the craving, take a minute to feel it. Breathe deeply and move on. You will crave, but they can't hurt you. Most last only minutes. You may have 20 a day then it will be 10 then 1 then just a few a week.
Thing is this, you can take anything your addiction dishes out. All the lies, all the physical shit, all the anxiety, I KNOW you can handle it. If I could anybody can.
One day at a time, one hour, one minute, one moment- you got this
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Ok, so what's the fucking deal? I'm on day 16 and the last few days have felt like starting all over again. I think I read somewhere that some people get heavy craves after a couple weeks, but this shit sucks.Â
It feels like I caved and am now craving it again. I'm sure I didn't but I actually starting second guessing myself.Â
What's anyone else's experience with this?
I'm guessing you dipped longer than 16 days right? It's going to take a lot more time than that for your body to adjust to the new normal.
At 227 days, I was walking out of the gym last Saturday morning. I've dropped 15 pounds in the past month...feeling insanely healthy.
You know what pops into my mind as I'm walking out feeling buff, healthy, and all around like a mother f'n p-i-m-p??? Man a dip sure would be awesome right now.
I don't want to burst your bubble or cause you to have a negative outlook, but you are just going to have to accept the fact there will be many craves along the way.
The extremely bright side though is they start to come less and less...and even better is that at 231 days now, well I know how to handle them and so will you the further you progress.
Walking out of the gym, I laughed that bitch off...really honest to goodness laughed out loud. The crazy nic bitch whispering..."Hey you are in the best shape you've been in a long long time...it's a beautiful Fall Saturday. Get you a little dip, it won't hurt." It's fun now laughing them off. Sure a hell of a lot better than locking myself in a closet and praying I make it through a crave.
Chuckle,
exercise will definitely help, second and this is a big one WATCH YOUR BLOOD SUGAR LEVELS. A sugar crash will cause you to crave. Cranberry juice is a good one to sip during the day to keep your level up. If your using alot of sweets as a substitue that could be messing with you. Make sure your eating right and keep that blood sugar level stable.
Caffeine can mess with you as well, nicotine reduced the effects of caffeine, if your still drinking the same amount of coffee or triple shot expresso martinis your going to be bouncing of the walls. Ease up on the caff for a few weeks.
Lastly, Don't fixate on it. Acknowledge the craving, take a minute to feel it. Breathe deeply and move on. You will crave, but they can't hurt you. Most last only minutes. You may have 20 a day then it will be 10 then 1 then just a few a week.
Thing is this, you can take anything your addiction dishes out. All the lies, all the physical shit, all the anxiety, I KNOW you can handle it. If I could anybody can.
One day at a time, one hour, one minute, one moment- you got this
sm
GIVE IT TIME. IT DOES GET BETTER!
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Has anyone had any issues with depression following/resulting from their quit?
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Has anyone had any issues with depression following/resulting from their quit?
It is not uncommon. I have heard others saying the struggled with depression and a host of other emotions, I know I did.
I had a wide range of shit going on through about day 250 or so. I was happy one day, pissed the next, depressed the next, convinced I was dying two days later.
Keep posting +1's. It does get better !!
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Has anyone had any issues with depression following/resulting from their quit?
It is not uncommon. I have heard others saying the struggled with depression and a host of other emotions, I know I did.
I had a wide range of shit going on through about day 250 or so. I was happy one day, pissed the next, depressed the next, convinced I was dying two days later.
Keep posting +1's. It does get better !!
Hit me around day 80. lasted for about 7 days. I knew what it was related to but just couldnt get out of it. The early funk is nothing compared to the almost to the hall funk.
fight through it and do not cave. I am sure the depression after a cave is much worse.
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Has anyone had any issues with depression following/resulting from their quit?
It is not uncommon. I have heard others saying the struggled with depression and a host of other emotions, I know I did.
I had a wide range of shit going on through about day 250 or so. I was happy one day, pissed the next, depressed the next, convinced I was dying two days later.
Keep posting +1's. It does get better !!
Hit me around day 80. lasted for about 7 days. I knew what it was related to but just couldnt get out of it. The early funk is nothing compared to the almost to the hall funk.
fight through it and do not cave. I am sure the depression after a cave is much worse.
Depression is a very real part of quitting dip for some people. It hit me pretty hard right around day 75 or so. For me it was the realization that I wasn't going to be a dipper anymore. It was -- for lack of a better term -- sad. I couldn't believe that this thing that had been a part of my life for so long was NEVER coming back.
Like I said, it hit me pretty hard, but like all of my other withdrawal symptoms I thought of one thing to get me through...
Withdrawal symptoms, whether they be depression, rage, crawling/tingling jaw, etc. are conclusive PROOF that you have begun the healing process.
If you're like me, you chewed for upwards of 6000 days. Your body is PISSED at you for taking away it's nic fuel. Embrace it and realize that the depression (like all of the other symptoms before) will pass.
(note that I'm not a doctor and I know that clinical depression is a serious issue. If symptoms persist I'd suggest going to see a doc. With that being said, my depression issues were gone in a few short weeks)
Stay strong and realize this... you are NOT alone. You're in a fight, but you've got brothers and sisters fighting with you.
chewie
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I'm not a depressed type of person. In fact, I used to call bullshit on folks that claimed depression. I just thought they were lazy.
But this has been an emotional ordeal...or at least, as emotional as I get. I posted once at about Day 14 and I actually had tears. Then, again at about Day 70...big funk. I didn't want to cave, but I also didn't want to do anything but just veg in front of the TV.
Jogging helped me, but it was tough to find the motivation. Fight through that shit. Recognize it for what it is...that is the feeling of healing (sounds like a Motown song, huh?)
Also, the thought of "quitting forever" was depressing...then I realized all over again the genius of "yesterday + 1." You don't have to promise to quit forever...just promise no nic today.
All of this boils down to maintaining mental toughness. It took me 20 years to get myself in this position. I'm at Day 97 of getting out of it. I have only been able to do it with the help of the folks on this site. So when you feel the funk coming on, POST. When you need to vent, POST. Post roll every day. Realizing that I wasn't alone seemed to help me a great deal.
Stay strong, stay quit!
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Has anyone had any issues with depression following/resulting from their quit?
It is not uncommon. I have heard others saying the struggled with depression and a host of other emotions, I know I did.
I had a wide range of shit going on through about day 250 or so. I was happy one day, pissed the next, depressed the next, convinced I was dying two days later.
Keep posting +1's. It does get better !!
Hit me around day 80. lasted for about 7 days. I knew what it was related to but just couldnt get out of it. The early funk is nothing compared to the almost to the hall funk.
fight through it and do not cave. I am sure the depression after a cave is much worse.
Depression is a very real part of quitting dip for some people. It hit me pretty hard right around day 75 or so. For me it was the realization that I wasn't going to be a dipper anymore. It was -- for lack of a better term -- sad. I couldn't believe that this thing that had been a part of my life for so long was NEVER coming back.
Like I said, it hit me pretty hard, but like all of my other withdrawal symptoms I thought of one thing to get me through...
Withdrawal symptoms, whether they be depression, rage, crawling/tingling jaw, etc. are conclusive PROOF that you have begun the healing process.
If you're like me, you chewed for upwards of 6000 days. Your body is PISSED at you for taking away it's nic fuel. Embrace it and realize that the depression (like all of the other symptoms before) will pass.
(note that I'm not a doctor and I know that clinical depression is a serious issue. If symptoms persist I'd suggest going to see a doc. With that being said, my depression issues were gone in a few short weeks)
Stay strong and realize this... you are NOT alone. You're in a fight, but you've got brothers and sisters fighting with you.
chewie
I dipped for 9855 days, quit for 68 days today and the words of warning about the day 70 fog and risks were heard. At day 30 I felt bullet proof, this was easy, no problem - then I started to read the vets warnings and caveats. Now at day 68 the dip dreams are comming every night, each morning I wake up paranoid that I had caved, only to feel an immense amount of relieve that it was just a dream. My body and brain are very pissed now, however, I only use this to make my quit stronger - Nic does not care about me, does not care that I am depressed, does not care that I hurt today and will hurt tomorrow and the next day, fuck it - I will attack one second, one minute, one hour, and one day at a time, facing each cave, cramp, headache, feeling and urge to dip at at time. No matter that Nic presents itself as the solution to all of these miniscule problems, I will remember that Nic and the associated chemicals in Dip can and do kill, a headache never killed anybody.
I will not work on Cancer's or Death's schedule, they do not work on mine.
Depressed, yup a bit, willing to fight it with you and everyone else here, absolutely.
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Has anyone had any issues with depression following/resulting from their quit?
It is not uncommon. I have heard others saying the struggled with depression and a host of other emotions, I know I did.
I had a wide range of shit going on through about day 250 or so. I was happy one day, pissed the next, depressed the next, convinced I was dying two days later.
Keep posting +1's. It does get better !!
Hit me around day 80. lasted for about 7 days. I knew what it was related to but just couldnt get out of it. The early funk is nothing compared to the almost to the hall funk.
fight through it and do not cave. I am sure the depression after a cave is much worse.
Depression is a very real part of quitting dip for some people. It hit me pretty hard right around day 75 or so. For me it was the realization that I wasn't going to be a dipper anymore. It was -- for lack of a better term -- sad. I couldn't believe that this thing that had been a part of my life for so long was NEVER coming back.
Like I said, it hit me pretty hard, but like all of my other withdrawal symptoms I thought of one thing to get me through...
Withdrawal symptoms, whether they be depression, rage, crawling/tingling jaw, etc. are conclusive PROOF that you have begun the healing process.
If you're like me, you chewed for upwards of 6000 days. Your body is PISSED at you for taking away it's nic fuel. Embrace it and realize that the depression (like all of the other symptoms before) will pass.
(note that I'm not a doctor and I know that clinical depression is a serious issue. If symptoms persist I'd suggest going to see a doc. With that being said, my depression issues were gone in a few short weeks)
Stay strong and realize this... you are NOT alone. You're in a fight, but you've got brothers and sisters fighting with you.
chewie
I dipped for 9855 days, quit for 68 days today and the words of warning about the day 70 fog and risks were heard. At day 30 I felt bullet proof, this was easy, no problem - then I started to read the vets warnings and caveats. Now at day 68 the dip dreams are comming every night, each morning I wake up paranoid that I had caved, only to feel an immense amount of relieve that it was just a dream. My body and brain are very pissed now, however, I only use this to make my quit stronger - Nic does not care about me, does not care that I am depressed, does not care that I hurt today and will hurt tomorrow and the next day, fuck it - I will attack one second, one minute, one hour, and one day at a time, facing each cave, cramp, headache, feeling and urge to dip at at time. No matter that Nic presents itself as the solution to all of these miniscule problems, I will remember that Nic and the associated chemicals in Dip can and do kill, a headache never killed anybody.
I will not work on Cancer's or Death's schedule, they do not work on mine.
Depressed, yup a bit, willing to fight it with you and everyone else here, absolutely.
Man, I love it! Thats the kind of hard charging attitude I like to see around here! The deadliest weapon in the world is a quitter and his quit erection!
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Has anyone had any issues with depression following/resulting from their quit?
It is not uncommon. I have heard others saying the struggled with depression and a host of other emotions, I know I did.
I had a wide range of shit going on through about day 250 or so. I was happy one day, pissed the next, depressed the next, convinced I was dying two days later.
Keep posting +1's. It does get better !!
Hit me around day 80. lasted for about 7 days. I knew what it was related to but just couldnt get out of it. The early funk is nothing compared to the almost to the hall funk.
fight through it and do not cave. I am sure the depression after a cave is much worse.
Depression is a very real part of quitting dip for some people. It hit me pretty hard right around day 75 or so. For me it was the realization that I wasn't going to be a dipper anymore. It was -- for lack of a better term -- sad. I couldn't believe that this thing that had been a part of my life for so long was NEVER coming back.
Like I said, it hit me pretty hard, but like all of my other withdrawal symptoms I thought of one thing to get me through...
Withdrawal symptoms, whether they be depression, rage, crawling/tingling jaw, etc. are conclusive PROOF that you have begun the healing process.
If you're like me, you chewed for upwards of 6000 days. Your body is PISSED at you for taking away it's nic fuel. Embrace it and realize that the depression (like all of the other symptoms before) will pass.
(note that I'm not a doctor and I know that clinical depression is a serious issue. If symptoms persist I'd suggest going to see a doc. With that being said, my depression issues were gone in a few short weeks)
Stay strong and realize this... you are NOT alone. You're in a fight, but you've got brothers and sisters fighting with you.
chewie
I dipped for 9855 days, quit for 68 days today and the words of warning about the day 70 fog and risks were heard. At day 30 I felt bullet proof, this was easy, no problem - then I started to read the vets warnings and caveats. Now at day 68 the dip dreams are comming every night, each morning I wake up paranoid that I had caved, only to feel an immense amount of relieve that it was just a dream. My body and brain are very pissed now, however, I only use this to make my quit stronger - Nic does not care about me, does not care that I am depressed, does not care that I hurt today and will hurt tomorrow and the next day, fuck it - I will attack one second, one minute, one hour, and one day at a time, facing each cave, cramp, headache, feeling and urge to dip at at time. No matter that Nic presents itself as the solution to all of these miniscule problems, I will remember that Nic and the associated chemicals in Dip can and do kill, a headache never killed anybody.
I will not work on Cancer's or Death's schedule, they do not work on mine.
Depressed, yup a bit, willing to fight it with you and everyone else here, absolutely.
Man, I love it! Thats the kind of hard charging attitude I like to see around here! The deadliest weapon in the world is a quitter and his quit erection!
I'm no expert and only 41 days under my belt thus far, but I can tell you what I've experienced. I was in a tough patch up until just recently. Not happy with my performance at work, paranoid about shit at home, generally questioning everything about myself - seems that my mind is struggling to figure out who I am exactly without dip. So I started working out and quit drinking - early in my quit I replaced nicotine with alcohol - BAD idea.
I've been blazing away at P90X (go ahead and make fun fuckers!) for the past two weeks late at night after the kids go to bed. This does double duty for me - I'm getting back into shape and I'm doing it at night when previously I would have been either drinking or dipping. I've seen improvement all around and it makes me, and my quit, that much stronger.
I know this - it absolutely SUCKED to feel that way and it made me want to cave. Don't do it, you're stronger than that - if I can help my number is yours for the asking.