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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Bean on September 11, 2015, 12:15:00 PM
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9-11 was a national tragedy. But it may have saved my life. I've told this story before, but I can't find my original intro. (I think it maybe too old?!!) Anyway, 5 years ago today...about right now in fact...I was watching a "9-11 Survivor's" show. They featured a little boy who lost his father when the Towers came down. He was about 12 or 13 at during the interview...which would have made him my son's age (2 or 3) at the time of the attack. That young man described how difficult life had been growing up without a father. How other father's chipped in best they could to teach him to throw a baseball, go trick or treating, talk about girls, etc. But nothing could replace having a real dad. Then he got quiet, paused and said that he "missed his daddy." He collapsed into tears. I lost it too...full on crying in front of the TV...with my son in my lap and dip in my lip.
Then it hit me. I was going to quit. I was overcome with determination. I spit it out right then and there. I finally had clarity and focus on ONE THING...being quit. My son would not suffer what this young man had been though. His tragic loss was due to no fault of his father's. Whereas, I was stuffing my stupid face with poison for 20 years!!!
I didn't know how I was going to do it. But I did. I struggled along nic-free for nine days until I found this site at about 3 in the morning (wasn't sleeping much at that time). I posted a weak intro. And to my surprise, someone answered right away with a link about posting roll. So I did. I met you folks. I learned how to quit ONE DAY AT A TIME.
Since then, I've coached my son's T-ball, little league, soccer. I've been to my daughter's dance recitals. I read thousands of bedtime books. And, I'm the one my wife hugs. I don't know if I would have found my determination if not for the tragic events of 9-11. I still hate that day. And I hate that so many suffered so much. But, for me personally, there is a silver lining...that I'm here with you living free ONE DAY AT A TIME.
Never Forget and Quit On,
- Bean
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9-11 was a national tragedy. But it may have saved my life. I've told this story before, but I can't find my original intro. (I think it maybe too old?!!) Anyway, 5 years ago today...about right now in fact...I was watching a "9-11 Survivor's" show. They featured a little boy who lost his father when the Towers came down. He was about 12 or 13 at during the interview...which would have made him my son's age (2 or 3) at the time of the attack. That young man described how difficult life had been growing up without a father. How other father's chipped in best they could to teach him to throw a baseball, go trick or treating, talk about girls, etc. But nothing could replace having a real dad. Then he got quiet, paused and said that he "missed his daddy." He collapsed into tears. I lost it too...full on crying in front of the TV...with my son in my lap and dip in my lip.
Then it hit me. I was going to quit. I was overcome with determination. I spit it out right then and there. I finally had clarity and focus on ONE THING...being quit. My son would not suffer what this young man had been though. His tragic loss was due to no fault of his father's. Whereas, I was stuffing my stupid face with poison for 20 years!!!
I didn't know how I was going to do it. But I did. I struggled along nic-free for nine days until I found this site at about 3 in the morning (wasn't sleeping much at that time). I posted a weak intro. And to my surprise, someone answered right away with a link about posting roll. So I did. I met you folks. I learned how to quit ONE DAY AT A TIME.
Since then, I've coached my son's T-ball, little league, soccer. I've been to my daughter's dance recitals. I read thousands of bedtime books. And, I'm the one my wife hugs. I don't know if I would have found my determination if not for the tragic events of 9-11. I still hate that day. And I hate that so many suffered so much. But, for me personally, there is a silver lining...that I'm here with you living free ONE DAY AT A TIME.
Never Forget and Quit On,
- Bean
Great share Bean. I bumped your intro forward yesterday to say thanks for all the support you pitch to the new guys in these intros, as well as a congrats on 5 years. Your original intro is near the bottom of this first page of intros if you want to check it out.
Thanks for the share and together we will never forget.
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Hey Mods, can you combine this with my original intro...because I'm to stooopid to figure it out!!!
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9-11 was a national tragedy. But it may have saved my life. I've told this story before, but I can't find my original intro. (I think it maybe too old?!!) Anyway, 5 years ago today...about right now in fact...I was watching a "9-11 Survivor's" show. They featured a little boy who lost his father when the Towers came down. He was about 12 or 13 at during the interview...which would have made him my son's age (2 or 3) at the time of the attack. That young man described how difficult life had been growing up without a father. How other father's chipped in best they could to teach him to throw a baseball, go trick or treating, talk about girls, etc. But nothing could replace having a real dad. Then he got quiet, paused and said that he "missed his daddy." He collapsed into tears. I lost it too...full on crying in front of the TV...with my son in my lap and dip in my lip.
Then it hit me. I was going to quit. I was overcome with determination. I spit it out right then and there. I finally had clarity and focus on ONE THING...being quit. My son would not suffer what this young man had been though. His tragic loss was due to no fault of his father's. Whereas, I was stuffing my stupid face with poison for 20 years!!!
I didn't know how I was going to do it. But I did. I struggled along nic-free for nine days until I found this site at about 3 in the morning (wasn't sleeping much at that time). I posted a weak intro. And to my surprise, someone answered right away with a link about posting roll. So I did. I met you folks. I learned how to quit ONE DAY AT A TIME.
Since then, I've coached my son's T-ball, little league, soccer. I've been to my daughter's dance recitals. I read thousands of bedtime books. And, I'm the one my wife hugs. I don't know if I would have found my determination if not for the tragic events of 9-11. I still hate that day. And I hate that so many suffered so much. But, for me personally, there is a silver lining...that I'm here with you living free ONE DAY AT A TIME.
Never Forget and Quit On,
- Bean
What a positive message and congratulations on 5 years.
Quit on man Quit on.
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Quit Sept 11, 2010...after 20 years. Cold Turkey...no prep. (Didn't find this site until about 2:30 in the morning last night).
For me, it was more of a driving/mowing the lawn habit than an addiction to nicotine (at least I tell myself that). Withdrawl symptoms are not too bad at all...except driving to/from work, after meals, out door activities like fishing/hunting.
Family was my motivation - wife and kids. They don't know My main problem is that I liked to dip snuff. I just liked it. Since I have such mild withdrawal symtoms, I tell myself that the nicotine wasn't the issue. It was just part of the relaxing routine.
But I'm not caving. I'm done.
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Congrats on your decision. I'm not quite sure how to take your post yet, but....I want to make sure you aren't taking this to lightly. We all thought we were doing pretty well 9 days in.
For 20 years, nicotine was every part of the issue. Don't fool yourself into thinking it wasn't. That's addict speak.
You liked dipping snuff? We all thought that. That's just another way of telling ourselves that it was all okay when in reality, it just gave you the fix, or as you say relaxation you were craving.
Having mild withdrawl issues? Might I ask what you were doing at 2:30am googling "quit dip"?
Just a mowing lawn thing? After breakfast, to work, after lunch, on the way home, after dinner, doing something outside after work, hunting, fishing...... Starts to add up, no?
Do me a favor, when you have been quit for 50 days, revisit your post here. I would be interested to know if you feel the same way.
Now head over to your quit group, introduce yourself, post up and get involved.
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Just re-read my post and you're right...I sound cocky. Please excuse the tone...this is hard and I'll take all the help I can get. I hope to write a HOF post in 89 days. I have a 2 year old boy and a newborn little girl and a wonferful wife...too much to throw away on stupid snuff!!!
You're also right about how the many dips in a day. This sounds crazy, but I had convinced myself that I was a "light dipper" just because cans lasted me a long time...small dips. I wish I were kidding.
If you would, can you tell me how to get to the section you recommended? I'm new a bulletin boards...sorry.
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Welcome aboard Bean. When I look at my craving (addiction) from the stand point of being clean for 12 days I think, "man, I justified a lot for dip". I need it to fly fish, i need it to work in my garage, i need it to stay awake while i drive, i need it to get by playing xbox, i need it to watch sports, i need it when i camp, - amazing how the tin can quickly consume and rule ones life. Thanks for your post and words of encouragement. You are with like minded people in KTC.
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Hey Now Bean!! Welcome aboard!
I'm happy to see your reply to redtrain.... Those dips add up pretty quick throughout the day dont they!!
Browse this site and read as much as possible. You will learn fast that everyone in here knows what your going through.
I have 2 little boys, 4 and 2, and a great wife. I've dipped for 27 years and it's sad I've been so sellfish and put my family in jeopardy.
But all I can do now is MAN UP and take a stand. The past is behind us, all we can do is take control of the future.
Brian
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Just re-read my post and you're right...I sound cocky. Please excuse the tone...this is hard and I'll take all the help I can get. I hope to write a HOF post in 89 days. I have a 2 year old boy and a newborn little girl and a wonferful wife...too much to throw away on stupid snuff!!!
You're also right about how the many dips in a day. This sounds crazy, but I had convinced myself that I was a "light dipper" just because cans lasted me a long time...small dips. I wish I were kidding.
If you would, can you tell me how to get to the section you recommended? I'm new a bulletin boards...sorry.
Looks like you found your group, nice job!
One more thing, don't hope to right a speech. You WILL write a speech.
Oh and another, read everything you can here. All the articles, check out the wildcard threads, find an old quit group and read it front to back. There is a ton of good information here and some pretty good comedy too.
Shout if you need anything, people will trip over each other to help out.
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Tomorrow at about noon (whenever I finished mowing the lawn two Saturday's ago) marks two weeks without snuff. I doubt anyone really gives a shit, but I do!!!
After 20 years, I'm quit...and quit for good. I've got a long way to go, but I could never have made it this far without the words of encouragement and support so from this site. So I just wanted to say thanks.
Now, if I could just get back to sleeping at night....
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Tomorrow at about noon (whenever I finished mowing the lawn two Saturday's ago) marks two weeks without snuff. I doubt anyone really gives a shit, but I do!!!
After 20 years, I'm quit...and quit for good. I've got a long way to go, but I could never have made it this far without the words of encouragement and support so from this site. So I just wanted to say thanks.
Now, if I could just get back to sleeping at night....
Thats awesome. Sleep will get back to normal in time. Give it another couple of weeks. When I went thru it I thought my sleep was fucked forever and it felt that way too. Hang in there.
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Another personal milestone...an entire round of golf without a dip. I'm only 15 days into this, my boss is playing (he dips), all the potential triggers and justifications were ther and I stayed quit!!! Let me say that again...I STAYED QUIT!!! I actually thought of this site when I was offered. It was hard to say no, but also really fucking cool to tell my boss no. It was as if I challenged him...I can quit, can you? He was very impressed when I told him I quit on Sept 11....in other words, not just yesterday or thisorning, but a real quit. I don't even know you guys, but keeping my word to you was all important to me today. So thanks...even if you didn't know you were helping me today!!!
Stay quit!!!
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Another personal milestone...an entire round of golf without a dip. I'm only 15 days into this, my boss is playing (he dips), all the potential triggers and justifications were ther and I stayed quit!!! Let me say that again...I STAYED QUIT!!! I actually thought of this site when I was offered. It was hard to say no, but also really fucking cool to tell my boss no. It was as if I challenged him...I can quit, can you? He was very impressed when I told him I quit on Sept 11....in other words, not just yesterday or thisorning, but a real quit. I don't even know you guys, but keeping my word to you was all important to me today. So thanks...even if you didn't know you were helping me today!!!
Stay quit!!!
good job bean its tough when people use around you about every one i work with dips it has made it hard on me but it makes you feel good when you can pass it up hang in there it gets better
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Another personal milestone...an entire round of golf without a dip. I'm only 15 days into this, my boss is playing (he dips), all the potential triggers and justifications were ther and I stayed quit!!! Let me say that again...I STAYED QUIT!!! I actually thought of this site when I was offered. It was hard to say no, but also really fucking cool to tell my boss no. It was as if I challenged him...I can quit, can you? He was very impressed when I told him I quit on Sept 11....in other words, not just yesterday or thisorning, but a real quit. I don't even know you guys, but keeping my word to you was all important to me today. So thanks...even if you didn't know you were helping me today!!!Â
Stay quit!!!
good job bean its tough when people use around you about every one i work with dips it has made it hard on me but it makes you feel good when you can pass it up hang in there it gets better
Congrats on the dip free golf!! That is a major trigger and you stomped the shit out of it. Isn't it weird the power of keeping your word to a group of people you've never met? PRETTY FUCKING COOL AINT IT!!!!
STAY STRONG-STAY QUIT!
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I'm taking a cue from VMADMAN and just continuing to tell you guys a little more about me and my quit. This is by no means important, but it helps me to remember the exact moment I decided to quit...and it just might help you. The key is that I found my motivation.
I dipped for 20 years, since high school baseball. I had "tried" to quit, "took a break" or "gave it up for Lent" many times before. But I always returned...until now. Never again.
I have a wonderful wife, 3 month old little girl, and a 2.5 year old little boy. I love them more than I can describe.
I had just finished mowing the lawn on Saturday, September 11. I came inside dripping with sweat, and flicked on the TV. Some news special about the Trade Center was on. They interviewed a woman who lost her husband. I HATE seeing those stories...they really get to me. But nothing got to me like the moment they showed her little boy...he was now about 12/13 yrs old.
In a split-second, I thought of all the things that little boy has missed, and will miss, growing up without a father. I tried to imagine how that family must have hurt night after night, the unrelentling pain of their loss and the fact that he could not do one damn thing to prevent or change what had occurred. No more tucking in at night, no more little league games/dance recitals, no more family holidays...nothing.
And that's it...just like that, I quit.
I can't change the fact I've dipped for 20 years. But I can sure as shit commit to minimizing the chance my family will lose me to fucking Copenhagen!!! Who would be there for my boy when he has problems? Who would show him how to mix gas for a two-cylce engine, how to tie a tie, shoot gun a gun or throw a baseball? Who will teach him to sit up straight at the table or use manners and silverware properly? Who would explain to him that I'm not around...and why? How would they explain it..."You see son, your father made a bad decision when he was in high school, and he was simply too weak to quit. That's why he is gone...good luck in life."
"Ooh the cravings." "Oh, I want a dip so bad"...BULLSHIT...FUCK THAT!!!
I plan on being around for my family as long as I possibly can. I want to be the one who raises my children, gives them advice, and checks the room for monsters one more time before night-night. And I will be, dammit. I will be.
That's my motivation. Thanks for reading if you got this far. Like I said...this helps me to remember why I WILL STAY QUIT. And I hope it helps you.
- Bean
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I'm taking a cue from VMADMAN and just continuing to tell you guys a little more about me and my quit. This is by no means important, but it helps me to remember the exact moment I decided to quit...and it just might help you. The key is that I found my motivation.
I dipped for 20 years, since high school baseball. I had "tried" to quit, "took a break" or "gave it up for Lent" many times before. But I always returned...until now. Never again.
I have a wonderful wife, 3 month old little girl, and a 2.5 year old little boy. I love them more than I can describe.
I had just finished mowing the lawn on Saturday, September 11. I came inside dripping with sweat, and flicked on the TV. Some news special about the Trade Center was on. They interviewed a woman who lost her husband. I HATE seeing those stories...they really get to me. But nothing got to me like the moment they showed her little boy...he was now about 12/13 yrs old.
In a split-second, I thought of all the things that little boy has missed, and will miss, growing up without a father. I tried to imagine how that family must have hurt night after night, the unrelentling pain of their loss and the fact that he could not do one damn thing to prevent or change what had occurred. No more tucking in at night, no more little league games/dance recitals, no more family holidays...nothing.
And that's it...just like that, I quit.
I can't change the fact I've dipped for 20 years. But I can sure as shit commit to minimizing the chance my family will lose me to fucking Copenhagen!!! Who would be there for my boy when he has problems? Who would show him how to mix gas for a two-cylce engine, how to tie a tie, shoot gun a gun or throw a baseball? Who will teach him to sit up straight at the table or use manners and silverware properly? Who would explain to him that I'm not around...and why? How would they explain it..."You see son, your father made a bad decision when he was in high school, and he was simply too weak to quit. That's why he is gone...good luck in life."
"Ooh the cravings." "Oh, I want a dip so bad"...BULLSHIT...FUCK THAT!!!
I plan on being around for my family as long as I possibly can. I want to be the one who raises my children, gives them advice, and checks the room for monsters one more time before night-night. And I will be, dammit. I will be.
That's my motivation. Thanks for reading if you got this far. Like I said...this helps me to remember why I WILL STAY QUIT. And I hope it helps you.
- Bean
Wow Bean.... That's good stuff!
I had a similar revelation. I'm 40, been dipping since 13.
Now I have 2 boys, 4 and 2. Sadly I wasn't man enough to quit when the first one was born, wasn't man enough to quit when the second one was born.
Finally one day I imagined my boys without a father, my wife without a husband.
Here I am living the good life while soldiers are being killed in the Mid-East. Thousands of kids without Dad's now because they made the ultimate sacrifice.
And here I am stuffing that fucking shit in my face, killing myself, being a sellfish mother fucker.
But now I'm 34 days quit and LUVIN IT!!!!
Brian
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I'm taking a cue from VMADMAN and just continuing to tell you guys a little more about me and my quit. This is by no means important, but it helps me to remember the exact moment I decided to quit...and it just might help you. The key is that I found my motivation.Â
I dipped for 20 years, since high school baseball. I had "tried" to quit, "took a break" or "gave it up for Lent" many times before. But I always returned...until now. Never again.
I have a wonderful wife, 3 month old little girl, and a 2.5 year old little boy. I love them more than I can describe.
I had just finished mowing the lawn on Saturday, September 11. I came inside dripping with sweat, and flicked on the TV. Some news special about the Trade Center was on. They interviewed a woman who lost her husband. I HATE seeing those stories...they really get to me. But nothing got to me like the moment they showed her little boy...he was now about 12/13 yrs old.Â
In a split-second, I thought of all the things that little boy has missed, and will miss, growing up without a father. I tried to imagine how that family must have hurt night after night, the unrelentling pain of their loss and the fact that he could not do one damn thing to prevent or change what had occurred. No more tucking in at night, no more little league games/dance recitals, no more family holidays...nothing.
And that's it...just like that, I quit.
I can't change the fact I've dipped for 20 years. But I can sure as shit commit to minimizing the chance my family will lose me to fucking Copenhagen!!! Who would be there for my boy when he has problems? Who would show him how to mix gas for a two-cylce engine, how to tie a tie, shoot gun a gun or throw a baseball? Who will teach him to sit up straight at the table or use manners and silverware properly? Who would explain to him that I'm not around...and why? How would they explain it..."You see son, your father made a bad decision when he was in high school, and he was simply too weak to quit. That's why he is gone...good luck in life."
"Ooh the cravings." "Oh, I want a dip so bad"...BULLSHIT...FUCK THAT!!!Â
I plan on being around for my family as long as I possibly can. I want to be the one who raises my children, gives them advice, and checks the room for monsters one more time before night-night. And I will be, dammit. I will be.
That's my motivation. Thanks for reading if you got this far. Like I said...this helps me to remember why I WILL STAY QUIT. And I hope it helps you.Â
- Bean
Wow Bean.... That's good stuff!
I had a similar revelation. I'm 40, been dipping since 13.
Now I have 2 boys, 4 and 2. Sadly I wasn't man enough to quit when the first one was born, wasn't man enough to quit when the second one was born.
Finally one day I imagined my boys without a father, my wife without a husband.
Here I am living the good life while soldiers are being killed in the Mid-East. Thousands of kids without Dad's now because they made the ultimate sacrifice.
And here I am stuffing that fucking shit in my face, killing myself, being a sellfish mother fucker.
But now I'm 34 days quit and LUVIN IT!!!!
Brian
good stuff guys. similar situation here, 37 yo with a 3 year old daughter. One of the great things about having children is it gives you a chance to go back and do things over, try to make things right through your children. I know we all regret being a slave to a nicotene for years, buts that history. We now have the opportunity to make sure our children don't make the same stupid fuckin decisions we did. And that starts by us staying Quit, today and everyday.
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I'm taking a cue from VMADMAN and just continuing to tell you guys a little more about me and my quit. This is by no means important, but it helps me to remember the exact moment I decided to quit...and it just might help you. The key is that I found my motivation.Â
I dipped for 20 years, since high school baseball. I had "tried" to quit, "took a break" or "gave it up for Lent" many times before. But I always returned...until now. Never again.
I have a wonderful wife, 3 month old little girl, and a 2.5 year old little boy. I love them more than I can describe.
I had just finished mowing the lawn on Saturday, September 11. I came inside dripping with sweat, and flicked on the TV. Some news special about the Trade Center was on. They interviewed a woman who lost her husband. I HATE seeing those stories...they really get to me. But nothing got to me like the moment they showed her little boy...he was now about 12/13 yrs old.Â
In a split-second, I thought of all the things that little boy has missed, and will miss, growing up without a father. I tried to imagine how that family must have hurt night after night, the unrelentling pain of their loss and the fact that he could not do one damn thing to prevent or change what had occurred. No more tucking in at night, no more little league games/dance recitals, no more family holidays...nothing.
And that's it...just like that, I quit.
I can't change the fact I've dipped for 20 years. But I can sure as shit commit to minimizing the chance my family will lose me to fucking Copenhagen!!! Who would be there for my boy when he has problems? Who would show him how to mix gas for a two-cylce engine, how to tie a tie, shoot gun a gun or throw a baseball? Who will teach him to sit up straight at the table or use manners and silverware properly? Who would explain to him that I'm not around...and why? How would they explain it..."You see son, your father made a bad decision when he was in high school, and he was simply too weak to quit. That's why he is gone...good luck in life."
"Ooh the cravings." "Oh, I want a dip so bad"...BULLSHIT...FUCK THAT!!!Â
I plan on being around for my family as long as I possibly can. I want to be the one who raises my children, gives them advice, and checks the room for monsters one more time before night-night. And I will be, dammit. I will be.
That's my motivation. Thanks for reading if you got this far. Like I said...this helps me to remember why I WILL STAY QUIT. And I hope it helps you.Â
- Bean
Wow Bean.... That's good stuff!
I had a similar revelation. I'm 40, been dipping since 13.
Now I have 2 boys, 4 and 2. Sadly I wasn't man enough to quit when the first one was born, wasn't man enough to quit when the second one was born.
Finally one day I imagined my boys without a father, my wife without a husband.
Here I am living the good life while soldiers are being killed in the Mid-East. Thousands of kids without Dad's now because they made the ultimate sacrifice.
And here I am stuffing that fucking shit in my face, killing myself, being a sellfish mother fucker.
But now I'm 34 days quit and LUVIN IT!!!!
Brian
good stuff guys. similar situation here, 37 yo with a 3 year old daughter. One of the great things about having children is it gives you a chance to go back and do things over, try to make things right through your children. I know we all regret being a slave to a nicotene for years, buts that history. We now have the opportunity to make sure our children don't make the same stupid fuckin decisions we did. And that starts by us staying Quit, today and everyday.
I'm 26, married with no kids...but MY thought was "I want to have kids someday, and that would be kinda hard if I'm not around." I want to spend every day with my wife, and I want her to be my number 1...not the shit I was stuffing in my face.
You all are great! I come back daily..the wife laughs and said shes glad I made this my "addiction" instead of snuce. :D
Stay Strong everyone! We'll get there, and stay there!
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Tomorrow marks 4 weeks for me and I want to thank the folks on this site. I couldn't have done it without you.
To all new quitters - you can do it. "Yesterday + 1" is what you must focus. Believe you can do it...post roll...keep your word...and you'll stay quit.
Keep focussed, remember the suck and why you're going through (or went through it) and think Yesterday + 1...before you know it, you're living life nice free.
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Tomorrow marks 4 weeks for me and I want to thank the folks on this site. I couldn't have done it without you.
To all new quitters - you can do it. "Yesterday + 1" is what you must focus. Believe you can do it...post roll...keep your word...and you'll stay quit.
Keep focussed, remember the suck and why you're going through (or went through it) and think Yesterday + 1...before you know it, you're living life nice free.
Congrats on the 4 weeks bro.
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Tomorrow marks 4 weeks for me and I want to thank the folks on this site. I couldn't have done it without you.
To all new quitters - you can do it. "Yesterday + 1" is what you must focus. Believe you can do it...post roll...keep your word...and you'll stay quit.
Keep focussed, remember the suck and why you're going through (or went through it) and think Yesterday + 1...before you know it, you're living life nice free.
Great post !! 4 weeks is HUGE !! Keep addding ones..
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Tomorrow marks 4 weeks for me and I want to thank the folks on this site. I couldn't have done it without you.
To all new quitters - you can do it. "Yesterday + 1" is what you must focus. Believe you can do it...post roll...keep your word...and you'll stay quit.
Keep focussed, remember the suck and why you're going through (or went through it) and think Yesterday + 1...before you know it, you're living life nice free.
Way to go Bean!!!!
Keep it rollin' brother!
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Does anyone know how long a guy like me (20 yr dipper) has to stay quit before the risk of cancer returns to that of the general public.
I'm not caving...promise. I'm kicking nic's ass one day at a time. Just wanted to know when I can breathe easier. I've heard it takes 15 years for a dipper to return to normal cancer risk levels.
If so, the next 15 years will be such a more enjoyable journey than the last 20 years...cancer-wise.
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Does anyone know how long a guy like me (20 yr dipper) has to stay quit before the risk of cancer returns to that of the general public.
Ok - I am reaching here - but my life insurance co was only concerned about "tobacco" use within the last year - ie, you had to be nic free for at least a year to qualify for lower rates. I damn sure as hell aint no expert but maybe that means something.
Lee
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Does anyone know how long a guy like me (20 yr dipper) has to stay quit before the risk of cancer returns to that of the general public.
I'm not caving...promise. I'm kicking nic's ass one day at a time. Just wanted to know when I can breathe easier. I've heard it takes 15 years for a dipper to return to normal cancer risk levels.
If so, the next 15 years will be such a more enjoyable journey than the last 20 years...cancer-wise.
I've talked to my physician about this. Truthfully, you will always be at a slightly higher risk than someone who never used tobacco. However, the odds of getting cancer are getting dramatically better each and everyday and milestone. I have read after 15 years you are just about at the same risk as a guy who never used.
But the health benefits don't stop with Cancer. Its your friggin heart that is screaming thank you everyday you stay quit. Most of us focus on the cancer, but dipping is terrible for your heart (according to my doc). Stay quit, and you are FAR less likely to have a heart attack or stroke at an early age.
I feel 100 times better already (after 3 weeks). I swear my fingernails are healthier, my hair feels softer, my teeth whiter, my legs stronger, my endurance better, my vision better.......I could go on and on. Dip fucks with your whole body, I'm starting to realize that.
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Does anyone know how long a guy like me (20 yr dipper) has to stay quit before the risk of cancer returns to that of the general public.
I'm not caving...promise. I'm kicking nic's ass one day at a time. Just wanted to know when I can breathe easier. I've heard it takes 15 years for a dipper to return to normal cancer risk levels.
If so, the next 15 years will be such a more enjoyable journey than the last 20 years...cancer-wise.
I've talked to my physician about this. Truthfully, you will always be at a slightly higher risk than someone who never used tobacco. However, the odds of getting cancer are getting dramatically better each and everyday and milestone. I have read after 15 years you are just about at the same risk as a guy who never used.
But the health benefits don't stop with Cancer. Its your friggin heart that is screaming thank you everyday you stay quit. Most of us focus on the cancer, but dipping is terrible for your heart (according to my doc). Stay quit, and you are FAR less likely to have a heart attack or stroke at an early age.
I feel 100 times better already (after 3 weeks). I swear my fingernails are healthier, my hair feels softer, my teeth whiter, my legs stronger, my endurance better, my vision better.......I could go on and on. Dip fucks with your whole body, I'm starting to realize that.
I've discussed this with a "cancer research guru" sorry I can't remember the title he told me. He gave alot of facts and figures that I don't remember. But According to him smokers can have health issues 25 years after the fact and are still at a significant risk for many years after quitting. He said if a smokeless user has no issues at the time they quit it would be unlikely for problems to arise after the 1st year. Furthermore, he said if an issue such as oral cancer came up after three years of being quit that the issue would be unrelated to smokeless tobacco. He was extremely confident in his hypothesis.
As far as the insurance part... The company will go in the hole only if having to pay the death benefit within the first year or two of premium payments. If the insured lives longer...they will at least break even or profit. That's why they only contest policies (in cases of suicide, fraud, or lying on the application) within the first year or two of the policy.
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Does anyone know how long a guy like me (20 yr dipper) has to stay quit before the risk of cancer returns to that of the general public.
I'm not caving...promise. I'm kicking nic's ass one day at a time. Just wanted to know when I can breathe easier. I've heard it takes 15 years for a dipper to return to normal cancer risk levels.
If so, the next 15 years will be such a more enjoyable journey than the last 20 years...cancer-wise.
I've talked to my physician about this. Truthfully, you will always be at a slightly higher risk than someone who never used tobacco. However, the odds of getting cancer are getting dramatically better each and everyday and milestone. I have read after 15 years you are just about at the same risk as a guy who never used.
But the health benefits don't stop with Cancer. Its your friggin heart that is screaming thank you everyday you stay quit. Most of us focus on the cancer, but dipping is terrible for your heart (according to my doc). Stay quit, and you are FAR less likely to have a heart attack or stroke at an early age.
I feel 100 times better already (after 3 weeks). I swear my fingernails are healthier, my hair feels softer, my teeth whiter, my legs stronger, my endurance better, my vision better.......I could go on and on. Dip fucks with your whole body, I'm starting to realize that.
I've discussed this with a "cancer research guru" sorry I can't remember the title he told me. He gave alot of facts and figures that I don't remember. But According to him smokers can have health issues 25 years after the fact and are still at a significant risk for many years after quitting. He said if a smokeless user has no issues at the time they quit it would be unlikely for problems to arise after the 1st year. Furthermore, he said if an issue such as oral cancer came up after three years of being quit that the issue would be unrelated to smokeless tobacco. He was extremely confident in his hypothesis.
As far as the insurance part... The company will go in the hole only if having to pay the death benefit within the first year or two of premium payments. If the insured lives longer...they will at least break even or profit. That's why they only contest policies (in cases of suicide, fraud, or lying on the application) within the first year or two of the policy.
wow, I have never heard that AJT. I'm a bit skeptical, but I hope your cancer guru guy is right. That is great news for us quitters.
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Hey everybody,
I just found an easy way to stop putting that shit in my mouth. I simply stick each finger (thumbs too) in my ass one at a time. Then I don't wash my hands...ever. I call it The Bean Dip.
Feel free to use my knowledge for yourself. No need to thank me.
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Hey everybody,
I just found an easy way to stop putting that shit in my mouth. I simply stick each finger (thumbs too) in my ass one at a time. Then I don't wash my hands...ever. I call it The Bean Dip.
Feel free to use my knowledge for yourself. No need to thank me.
So, we should be putting our fingers in your ass? Dude - we quit in tandem but could I use your wife?
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Hey everybody,
I just found an easy way to stop putting that shit in my mouth. I simply stick each finger (thumbs too) in my ass one at a time. Then I don't wash my hands...ever. I call it The Bean Dip.
Feel free to use my knowledge for yourself. No need to thank me.
Sick but affective!!
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Hey everybody,
I just found an easy way to stop putting that shit in my mouth. I simply stick each finger (thumbs too) in my ass one at a time. Then I don't wash my hands...ever. I call it The Bean Dip.
Feel free to use my knowledge for yourself. No need to thank me.
Please keep your faggotry to yourself please. Thanks!
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Hey everybody,
I just found an easy way to stop putting that shit in my mouth. I simply stick each finger (thumbs too) in my ass one at a time. Then I don't wash my hands...ever. I call it The Bean Dip.
Feel free to use my knowledge for yourself. No need to thank me.
Thanks Bean! That'll help with my fingernail biting habit as well. kill 2 birds w/ one stone....
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Six weeks quit today!!! I couldn't have done it without the support from the folks on this site site. Whoever came up with "yesterday + 1" is a genius...it is exactly right. One day at a time, post roll, stay nic free, and repeat. That simple little program has been they key to kicking nic's ass for me.
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Solid numbers Bean!!! Way to go.
Try to keep those fingers out of ya bum.
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I am not sure about the whole finger in the butt thing.. but whatever works.
Nice quit, keep it going !!
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Working on two full days without. I'm already feeling better health wise but I'm greatfull for the people on this sight for the encouragement. Keep the Quit! I'm not trying I'm doing!
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Working on two full days without. I'm already feeling better health wise but I'm greatfull for the people on this sight for the encouragement. Keep the Quit! I'm not trying I'm doing!
MO,
Make sure you find Jan 2011 and post your promise.
Check your inbox ( 1 )
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Working on two full days without. I'm already feeling better health wise but I'm greatfull for the people on this sight for the encouragement. Keep the Quit! I'm not trying I'm doing!
MO,
Make sure you find Jan 2011 and post your promise.
Check your inbox ( 1 )
welcome aboard. Go to the KTC Home link above and educate yourself.
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Great choice. Congrats!!! Read all you can, post roll, stay quit.
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Well, after 20 years of dipping, it looks like my gums have receded a little. Does anyone know if the ever come back? If so, how long? I've heard they never come back...damage is done. Dentist doesn't think I need a graft, so I guess it is not severe. Just curious. Thanks
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As I understand it the gums do not come back. I to have some recession in my gums. I have a stained tooth to that I look at each morning and realize what a stupid fuck I was. My dentist told me I had no loose teeth or tooth damage so at least I didn't loose any.
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Wow...I finally know what y'all have been saying about the "dip dream." I don't know what specifically triggered it...maybe because I went to my 20 yr high school reunion last night? Football game and beer with many of the same guys I started dipping with. I guess there were lots of triggers, but I stayed quit.
I'm not a guy who is always telling people about dreams I had. In fact, I usually hate when someone starts out a conversation that way. Also, I usually can't remember shit about my dreams. But I woke up today totally pissed off that I had caved...in my dream. I even checked my jeans and my truck. It was so specific...I woke with a "memory" of seeing the open can in my hand and dip in my lip, but not much else.
Also, I cringed at the thought of having to tell everyone about caving. It is interesting how much I depend on this site for support. So, thanks!!! Day 50 started out weird, but I'm still nic free...and that isn't changing!!!
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Wow...I finally know what y'all have been saying about the "dip dream." I don't know what specifically triggered it...maybe because I went to my 20 yr high school reunion last night? Football game and beer with many of the same guys I started dipping with. I guess there were lots of triggers, but I stayed quit.
I'm not a guy who is always telling people about dreams I had. In fact, I usually hate when someone starts out a conversation that way. Also, I usually can't remember shit about my dreams. But I woke up today totally pissed off that I had caved...in my dream. I even checked my jeans and my truck. It was so specific...I woke with a "memory" of seeing the open can in my hand and dip in my lip, but not much else.
Also, I cringed at the thought of having to tell everyone about caving. It is interesting how much I depend on this site for support. So, thanks!!! Day 50 started out weird, but I'm still nic free...and that isn't changing!!!
Crazy ass addiction no ?
They can be unsettling for sure.
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Another crazy dip dream. I'm at Day 61...and just had my second dip dream. I even knew I had a dream about it in this dream. I woke up totally pissed. I even checked my lip in the bathroom. This is absolutely crazy. If it didn't happen to me, I never would have believed it was possible to be that sure I dipped when I hadn't. WTF?!!
Also, I think I had my first funk the day before the dip dream...don't know if they're related, but I'll let you know if and when it happens again. It was a big depression spell...like a non-specific death or some event that makes you think things will never be the same. I had to remind myself that they won't...I'm nic free now...that's what is different. And it is GREAT!!!
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Another crazy dip dream. I'm at Day 61...and just had my second dip dream. I even knew I had a dream about it in this dream. I woke up totally pissed. I even checked my lip in the bathroom. This is absolutely crazy. If it didn't happen to me, I never would have believed it was possible to be that sure I dipped when I hadn't. WTF?!!
Also, I think I had my first funk the day before the dip dream...don't know if they're related, but I'll let you know if and when it happens again. It was a big depression spell...like a non-specific death or some event that makes you think things will never be the same. I had to remind myself that they won't...I'm nic free now...that's what is different. And it is GREAT!!!
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Another crazy dip dream. I'm at Day 61...and just had my second dip dream. I even knew I had a dream about it in this dream. I woke up totally pissed. I even checked my lip in the bathroom. This is absolutely crazy. If it didn't happen to me, I never would have believed it was possible to be that sure I dipped when I hadn't. WTF?!!
Also, I think I had my first funk the day before the dip dream...don't know if they're related, but I'll let you know if and when it happens again. It was a big depression spell...like a non-specific death or some event that makes you think things will never be the same. I had to remind myself that they won't...I'm nic free now...that's what is different. And it is GREAT!!!
BEAN,
I had my second dip dream last night also. It felt so real when I woke up I started crying. I freaked out a little but then realized it was a dream. I thought I actually caved.
We are GUARD sttrong and Im glad we are brothers in the group
Luke
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Another crazy dip dream. I'm at Day 61...and just had my second dip dream. I even knew I had a dream about it in this dream. I woke up totally pissed. I even checked my lip in the bathroom. This is absolutely crazy. If it didn't happen to me, I never would have believed it was possible to be that sure I dipped when I hadn't. WTF?!!
Also, I think I had my first funk the day before the dip dream...don't know if they're related, but I'll let you know if and when it happens again. It was a big depression spell...like a non-specific death or some event that makes you think things will never be the same. I had to remind myself that they won't...I'm nic free now...that's what is different. And it is GREAT!!!
BEAN,
I had my second dip dream last night also. It felt so real when I woke up I started crying. I freaked out a little but then realized it was a dream. I thought I actually caved.
We are GUARD sttrong and Im glad we are brothers in the group
Luke
Yep, been there done that. I've had a couple of dip dreams and each one I dreamed I caved with some shitty Skoal Spearmint. I mean if I'm going to have a dip dream at least make it Copenhagen... jeez!
But I did the same thing, woke up scared to death that I caved and started thinking about how I was going to break the news to KTC and the fact that I would have to call myself a limp dick pussy ass caver which I wasn't looking forward to.
Dave
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Another crazy dip dream. I'm at Day 61...and just had my second dip dream. I even knew I had a dream about it in this dream. I woke up totally pissed. I even checked my lip in the bathroom. This is absolutely crazy. If it didn't happen to me, I never would have believed it was possible to be that sure I dipped when I hadn't. WTF?!!
Also, I think I had my first funk the day before the dip dream...don't know if they're related, but I'll let you know if and when it happens again. It was a big depression spell...like a non-specific death or some event that makes you think things will never be the same. I had to remind myself that they won't...I'm nic free now...that's what is different. And it is GREAT!!!
BEAN,
I had my second dip dream last night also. It felt so real when I woke up I started crying. I freaked out a little but then realized it was a dream. I thought I actually caved.
We are GUARD sttrong and Im glad we are brothers in the group
Luke
Yep, been there done that. I've had a couple of dip dreams and each one I dreamed I caved with some shitty Skoal Spearmint. I mean if I'm going to have a dip dream at least make it Copenhagen... jeez!
But I did the same thing, woke up scared to death that I caved and started thinking about how I was going to break the news to KTC and the fact that I would have to call myself a limp dick pussy ass caver which I wasn't looking forward to.
Dave
Funny you say that. My dip dream was I bought a can of shitty skoal..wtf!!!
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Another crazy dip dream. I'm at Day 61...and just had my second dip dream. I even knew I had a dream about it in this dream. I woke up totally pissed. I even checked my lip in the bathroom. This is absolutely crazy. If it didn't happen to me, I never would have believed it was possible to be that sure I dipped when I hadn't. WTF?!!
Also, I think I had my first funk the day before the dip dream...don't know if they're related, but I'll let you know if and when it happens again. It was a big depression spell...like a non-specific death or some event that makes you think things will never be the same. I had to remind myself that they won't...I'm nic free now...that's what is different. And it is GREAT!!!
BEAN,
I had my second dip dream last night also. It felt so real when I woke up I started crying. I freaked out a little but then realized it was a dream. I thought I actually caved.
We are GUARD sttrong and Im glad we are brothers in the group
Luke
Yep, been there done that. I've had a couple of dip dreams and each one I dreamed I caved with some shitty Skoal Spearmint. I mean if I'm going to have a dip dream at least make it Copenhagen... jeez!
But I did the same thing, woke up scared to death that I caved and started thinking about how I was going to break the news to KTC and the fact that I would have to call myself a limp dick pussy ass caver which I wasn't looking forward to.
Dave
you know you're addicted to the KTC kool-aid when you realize a dip wouldn't make you feel better, it would make you fell like a limp dick pussy ass caver. even in a dip dream. that's good stuff. loaded with vitamin FUCK OFF NIC BITCH!
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Just had a crazy realization about how strong nicotine really was...
Everybody generally has the same first experience...sneak off with your buddies and try it for the first time. Almost everyone gets sick their first time and STILL DOES IT AGAIN!!! WTF?!!
It's not like it tastes delicious or is really fun...it makes you sick, tastes like crap and burns your lip. And, yet, I wanted to do it again?
Anyway, I'm done with it now. FUCK YOU, NIC!!! I'm free.
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Just had a crazy realization about how strong nicotine really was...
Everybody generally has the same first experience...sneak off with your buddies and try it for the first time. Almost everyone gets sick their first time and STILL DOES IT AGAIN!!! WTF?!!
It's not like it tastes delicious or is really fun...it makes you sick, tastes like crap and burns your lip. And, yet, I wanted to do it again?
Anyway, I'm done with it now. FUCK YOU, NIC!!! I'm free.
Well bean my dad has chewwed as far back as I can remember and when I started I took one of his cans when I was 15 and thought that it was cool because he done it. I now look back and see how stupid it really was to even start.
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I'm not in the service, but I'm thankful for the men and women who are. I am living free thanks to you and those who came before you.
And speaking of freedom...I'm also living NIC FREE thanks to the folks on this site. Whether you just quit (and are white-knuckling it through sleepless nights), or if you've been quit for some time (Day 259 for me), it is important to remember one thing...living free.
Stay safe, remember the purpose of Memorial Day, and stay quit!!!
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Right on Bean!
SSgt Bryan Berky EOD - 1984-2009 - Miss you every day brother.
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Damn 1984. Tend to forget how young our brothers sisters in arms are. Godspeed and thank you.
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I'm not in the service, but I'm thankful for the men and women who are. I am living free thanks to you and those who came before you.
And speaking of freedom...I'm also living NIC FREE thanks to the folks on this site. Whether you just quit (and are white-knuckling it through sleepless nights), or if you've been quit for some time (Day 259 for me), it is important to remember one thing...living free.
Stay safe, remember the purpose of Memorial Day, and stay quit!!!
Thank you, Bean. My sentiments as well...
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Ken Gibson, brother and soldier, taken too early because you were willing to give it all
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20 years of poisoning myself came to an end 300 days ago. I quit plenty of times before...a day or two here and there...always failed.
This time is working and the ONLY thing I did differently was use this site.
300 days ago, I thought I could quit all by myself. I was sure I didn't need this site. I knew tobacco was bad, didn't need to see pictures or listen to people nag me. I knew I needed to quit, blah, blah, blah... Plenty of baseball coaches told me so, blah, blah, blah... In fact, I even thought that posting roll was stupid. I promised myself that I would do it...but only until I reached the HoF because I didn't really need to in the first place, right?
WHAT AN IDIOT I WAS?!!! I shudder to think how stupid I was then.
But that is how tough the Nic Bitch is. That is what she tells you to think. She made me rationalize killing myself. Read that again...she made me rationalize KILLING MYSELF!!! I knew I was killing myself and she made me ignore the risk. She made me think I didn't need anyone else despite a long history of failure. That is power!
The key for me was YOU...the person reading this. THIS SITE...POSTING ROLL...MUTUAL SUPPORT...and, for the first time in 20 years, ACCOUNTABILITY.
No pills, no pathches, no excuses, no bullshit. Just pure quitting...making a daily promise to you folks, that come Hell or high-water, I wasn't going to put that shit in my face for that day.
That began 300 days ago. Thank YOU for my freedom. I owe too many folks to mention individual names, but I have to mention one...The Kern Family. (If anybody hasn't read their story, please do so). I never met Mr. Kern, but his family should know that sharing his experience on this site has certainly saved at least one life...mine.
So, as I sit here at Day 300, I realize that I have not crossed any "finish line" but just another milestone on a journey that is TOTALLY WORTH IT!!!
- THANKS FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART,
The Bean
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20 years of poisoning myself came to an end 300 days ago. I quit plenty of times before...a day or two here and there...always failed.
This time is working and the ONLY thing I did differently was use this site.
300 days ago, I thought I could quit all by myself. I was sure I didn't need this site. I knew tobacco was bad, didn't need to see pictures or listen to people nag me. I knew I needed to quit, blah, blah, blah... Plenty of baseball coaches told me so, blah, blah, blah... In fact, I even thought that posting roll was stupid. I promised myself that I would do it...but only until I reached the HoF because I didn't really need to in the first place, right?
WHAT AN IDIOT I WAS?!!! I shudder to think how stupid I was then.
But that is how tough the Nic Bitch is. That is what she tells you to think. She made me rationalize killing myself. Read that again...she made me rationalize KILLING MYSELF!!! I knew I was killing myself and she made me ignore the risk. She made me think I didn't need anyone else despite a long history of failure. That is power!
The key for me was YOU...the person reading this. THIS SITE...POSTING ROLL...MUTUAL SUPPORT...and, for the first time in 20 years, ACCOUNTABILITY.
No pills, no pathches, no excuses, no bullshit. Just pure quitting...making a daily promise to you folks, that come Hell or high-water, I wasn't going to put that shit in my face for that day.
That began 300 days ago. Thank YOU for my freedom. I owe too many folks to mention individual names, but I have to mention one...The Kern Family. (If anybody hasn't read their story, please do so). I never met Mr. Kern, but his family should know that sharing his experience on this site has certainly saved at least one life...mine.
So, as I sit here at Day 300, I realize that I have not crossed any "finish line" but just another milestone on a journey that is TOTALLY WORTH IT!!!
- THANKS FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART,
The Bean
Thank you for being here for us new guys Bean. If it weren't for people like you giving it back this way of quit/life would die. Thank YOU!
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20 years of poisoning myself came to an end 300 days ago. I quit plenty of times before...a day or two here and there...always failed.
This time is working and the ONLY thing I did differently was use this site.
300 days ago, I thought I could quit all by myself. I was sure I didn't need this site. I knew tobacco was bad, didn't need to see pictures or listen to people nag me. I knew I needed to quit, blah, blah, blah... Plenty of baseball coaches told me so, blah, blah, blah... In fact, I even thought that posting roll was stupid. I promised myself that I would do it...but only until I reached the HoF because I didn't really need to in the first place, right?
WHAT AN IDIOT I WAS?!!! I shudder to think how stupid I was then.
But that is how tough the Nic Bitch is. That is what she tells you to think. She made me rationalize killing myself. Read that again...she made me rationalize KILLING MYSELF!!! I knew I was killing myself and she made me ignore the risk. She made me think I didn't need anyone else despite a long history of failure. That is power!
The key for me was YOU...the person reading this. THIS SITE...POSTING ROLL...MUTUAL SUPPORT...and, for the first time in 20 years, ACCOUNTABILITY.
No pills, no pathches, no excuses, no bullshit. Just pure quitting...making a daily promise to you folks, that come Hell or high-water, I wasn't going to put that shit in my face for that day.
That began 300 days ago. Thank YOU for my freedom. I owe too many folks to mention individual names, but I have to mention one...The Kern Family. (If anybody hasn't read their story, please do so). I never met Mr. Kern, but his family should know that sharing his experience on this site has certainly saved at least one life...mine.
So, as I sit here at Day 300, I realize that I have not crossed any "finish line" but just another milestone on a journey that is TOTALLY WORTH IT!!!
- THANKS FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART,
The Bean
Damn Proud of You.
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20 years of poisoning myself came to an end 300 days ago. I quit plenty of times before...a day or two here and there...always failed.
This time is working and the ONLY thing I did differently was use this site.
300 days ago, I thought I could quit all by myself. I was sure I didn't need this site. I knew tobacco was bad, didn't need to see pictures or listen to people nag me. I knew I needed to quit, blah, blah, blah... Plenty of baseball coaches told me so, blah, blah, blah... In fact, I even thought that posting roll was stupid. I promised myself that I would do it...but only until I reached the HoF because I didn't really need to in the first place, right?
WHAT AN IDIOT I WAS?!!! I shudder to think how stupid I was then.
But that is how tough the Nic Bitch is. That is what she tells you to think. She made me rationalize killing myself. Read that again...she made me rationalize KILLING MYSELF!!! I knew I was killing myself and she made me ignore the risk. She made me think I didn't need anyone else despite a long history of failure. That is power!
The key for me was YOU...the person reading this. THIS SITE...POSTING ROLL...MUTUAL SUPPORT...and, for the first time in 20 years, ACCOUNTABILITY.
No pills, no pathches, no excuses, no bullshit. Just pure quitting...making a daily promise to you folks, that come Hell or high-water, I wasn't going to put that shit in my face for that day.
That began 300 days ago. Thank YOU for my freedom. I owe too many folks to mention individual names, but I have to mention one...The Kern Family. (If anybody hasn't read their story, please do so). I never met Mr. Kern, but his family should know that sharing his experience on this site has certainly saved at least one life...mine.
So, as I sit here at Day 300, I realize that I have not crossed any "finish line" but just another milestone on a journey that is TOTALLY WORTH IT!!!
- THANKS FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART,
The Bean
A firm slap on the back for a job well done, Bean.
Congratulations on reaching floor #3 and thank you for your help in my quit!
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20 years of poisoning myself came to an end 300 days ago. I quit plenty of times before...a day or two here and there...always failed.
This time is working and the ONLY thing I did differently was use this site.
300 days ago, I thought I could quit all by myself. I was sure I didn't need this site. I knew tobacco was bad, didn't need to see pictures or listen to people nag me. I knew I needed to quit, blah, blah, blah... Plenty of baseball coaches told me so, blah, blah, blah... In fact, I even thought that posting roll was stupid. I promised myself that I would do it...but only until I reached the HoF because I didn't really need to in the first place, right?
WHAT AN IDIOT I WAS?!!! I shudder to think how stupid I was then.
But that is how tough the Nic Bitch is. That is what she tells you to think. She made me rationalize killing myself. Read that again...she made me rationalize KILLING MYSELF!!! I knew I was killing myself and she made me ignore the risk. She made me think I didn't need anyone else despite a long history of failure. That is power!
The key for me was YOU...the person reading this. THIS SITE...POSTING ROLL...MUTUAL SUPPORT...and, for the first time in 20 years, ACCOUNTABILITY.
No pills, no pathches, no excuses, no bullshit. Just pure quitting...making a daily promise to you folks, that come Hell or high-water, I wasn't going to put that shit in my face for that day.
That began 300 days ago. Thank YOU for my freedom. I owe too many folks to mention individual names, but I have to mention one...The Kern Family. (If anybody hasn't read their story, please do so). I never met Mr. Kern, but his family should know that sharing his experience on this site has certainly saved at least one life...mine.
So, as I sit here at Day 300, I realize that I have not crossed any "finish line" but just another milestone on a journey that is TOTALLY WORTH IT!!!
- THANKS FROM THE BOTTOM OF MY HEART,
The Bean
Congratulations, I look up to you for doing it the right way. Keep on the path, I will be watching each day at a time.
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Brag, brag, brag..... showoff! Just kidding, bro. Congrats and well said. I couldn't agree more. No pills, no patches, no bullshit.
And I say thanks to YOU for posting every day with me and the rest of the GUARD. See you there tomorrow morning.
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WELL DONE BEAN!!! You just made my quit stronger! nico
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I know you don't need a lecture, but I wanted to share some thoughts...
Post Roll, get numbers, read all you can and stay glued to this site.
I quit many times before, too...usually for a day or two, or until something I could use as a bullshit excuse to cave (job stress, life stress, hang-nail, nothing but reality shows on TV, etc). Then I found this site.
POSTING ROLL is the key...period. When you give your word, it is like everyone on this site is right there with you all day long. I'd seen cancer pics before. The scared me, but I kept on dipping. I knew cancer was likely in my future if I didn't quit and I still ignored the risk. But giving my word to a bunch of strangers who are going throught the same bullshit I was at the same time made all the difference.
Also, something that worked for me personally, encouraging other quitters when I felt a crave or "trigger." After meals, I would pop on here and read or share a few words. Just reading a few posts, maybe even the Kern Family story, gave me the strength to fight no matter how tough it was...like re-newing my promise from that morning.
Remember, there is no short-cut. You have to decide to quit, post your promise, and keep your word. The good news is that you can do it...and we're all here to help.
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I can't agree with what was just posted any more if I tried. Bean is right Posting Roll is key.
When I posted roll it was a source of strength looking at all the other names on roll because these folks are right there with me they are going through exactly what I was.That makes all the difference.
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This may be a terrible idea...but I thought I would start a thread that would have a list of things that to fight urges...aside from the obvious stuff like posting roll and excercise. Everybody is different. This is what has worked for me, feel free to add.
1) Driving was a huge trigger for me, so I used to say out loud (sometimes shout) something like, "I GET to live today because I CHOSE to quit on September 11."
2) Post-meal was also a trigger...so I'd pop on to this site and read the Kern Family story or the Contract.
3) ...
(this may not be a good idea with this group)
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Bean is it wrong if I masturbate everytime I crave dip?
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Here's something I wrote a few days ago. It may be of help:
index.php?showtopic=4011 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=4011)
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Bean is it wrong if I masturbate everytime I crave dip?
only if you're at work when you crave
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Just discovered David sunflower seeds: "Jalapeno Hot Salsa" flavored. those little fuckers are hot!
Takes my mind right off the chew! (of course I'm addicted to those seeds now)
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I make sure and not dwell on the crave and just accept it. I try to change what I am doing---get up and go for walk and think about how great it is to be a non-dipper!
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I make sure and not dwell on the crave and just accept it. I try to change what I am doing---get up and go for walk and think about how great it is to be a non-dipper!
I'll second this. If you have a pattern where you do a certain thing, change up the pattern. Be proactive. Get your mind away from the old pattern.
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I get pissed about the fact that something is trying to have that much control over me. It is a life or death fight literally, treat it like that everytime a crave comes along.
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Just discovered David sunflower seeds: "Jalapeno Hot Salsa" flavored.
Werd.
BBQs tasty too.
Atomic Fireballs round out the crave dodging trifecta for me.
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Just discovered David sunflower seeds: "Jalapeno Hot Salsa" flavored.
Werd.
BBQs tasty too.
Atomic Fireballs round out the crave dodging trifecta for me.
eating dill pickle seeds whilst slamming ones nuts in the desk drawer. If a particularly nasty crave, a drop of tabasco in both eyes and one on the tip of your manhood but make sure you put on a pair of wool mittens rolled in honey, broken glass and yellow jackets first.
Real deal cure? realize that shit lasts less than 7 minutes on average. Realize it fucking sucks ass, but it is temporary and can't hurt you. Realize this is the price you pay for your freedom and accept it. Now move on to something else, you don't do that shit anymore.
sM
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Bean is it wrong if I masturbate everytime I crave dip?
only if you're at work when you crave
anywhere, just not at church :D
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Bean is it wrong if I masturbate everytime I crave dip?
Pulling it is only wrong if you're doing with your left hand...unless you're trolling for strange. I stick my thumbs in my ass and never wash my hands. That way I couldn't pinch any into my mouth. But now, like the jalapeno seeds, I'm addicted to sticking my thumbs in my ass. Is there a site to get off of that?
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Tomorrow is obviously a special day in America. But let me share (again) the significance to me.
9/11/10 - Came in from cutting the grass...dip in my mouth as usual...flicked on TV. It was as "survivors' story." I usually hated watching those. But I was too hot, tired, lazy to turn the channel. So I watched...and watched...and began tearing up and continued watching....
They interviewed a little boy who was about 12 or 13 about losing his father that fateful morning. I was tearing up like a baby. Nobody to play catch with, talk about girls, help with homework or watch baseball, etc. Other fathers tried to chip in, but nobody could fill his father's shoes. That little guy got choked up a couple of times telling his story. His mother could only stroke his head and brush his hair out of his face as they both fought back tears...
AND I'M SITTING THERE WITH A FUCKING DIP IN MY MOUTH!!! That was it. Done. Finished. I was madder than Hell at the Nic Bitch who would have me do that to mine own kids (3 yr boy, 1 yr girl).
That little guy's loss was completely beyond his control...like a lightening strike or freak accident. And it devastated him. It devastated his family. That family was missing a husband and father. There was talk of "good days and bad days." The events of 9/11 tortured that family for years. AND I WAS WILLFULLY DOING IT TO MINE!!! WTF?!!! I would strangle anyone who hurt my little boy and yet I went out of my way to buy Copenhagen and hide from my family and kill myself slowly. I was SICK.
That was it. I spit it out right then and there after 20 years of dipping Copenhagen. I found this site 9 days later at about 4:00 in the morning. And, with they help of you folks, I'm one day shy of 1 year without nicotine.
To new folks...yes, it is hard...hardest thing I think I have ever done. But there are no short-cuts. No pills, no patches, no bullshit. You just get your fucking head on straight, give your word that come Hell or high water you are not going to put that shit in your face for just one day. Then wake up the next day and do it again. I still fight urges (Dove season started on Sept 1...huge trigger). But I think back on that day, that other family, that little boy;s face...and the urges are babyshit.
So, 9/11 is an especially powerful day for me. I remember the folks we lost, the survivor families and their struggles, the soldiers since that time, all the heros. But, I think I found my silver lining...I QUIT and I'm still here quitting to help every person I can spare him/herself and their loved ones of the pain that 9/11 has come to symbolize.
Stay strong, stay quit. Living nic-free is totally worth it.
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Nicely done !! Congrats on the year !!
STAY QUIT
Greg
'clap' 'clap'
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Tomorrow is obviously a special day in America. But let me share (again) the significance to me.
9/11/10 - Came in from cutting the grass...dip in my mouth as usual...flicked on TV. It was as "survivors' story." I usually hated watching those. But I was too hot, tired, lazy to turn the channel. So I watched...and watched...and began tearing up and continued watching....
They interviewed a little boy who was about 12 or 13 about losing his father that fateful morning. I was tearing up like a baby. Nobody to play catch with, talk about girls, help with homework or watch baseball, etc. Other fathers tried to chip in, but nobody could fill his father's shoes. That little guy got choked up a couple of times telling his story. His mother could only stroke his head and brush his hair out of his face as they both fought back tears...
AND I'M SITTING THERE WITH A FUCKING DIP IN MY MOUTH!!! That was it. Done. Finished. I was madder than Hell at the Nic Bitch who would have me do that to mine own kids (3 yr boy, 1 yr girl).
That little guy's loss was completely beyond his control...like a lightening strike or freak accident. And it devastated him. It devastated his family. That family was missing a husband and father. There was talk of "good days and bad days." The events of 9/11 tortured that family for years. AND I WAS WILLFULLY DOING IT TO MINE!!! WTF?!!! I would strangle anyone who hurt my little boy and yet I went out of my way to buy Copenhagen and hide from my family and kill myself slowly. I was SICK.
That was it. I spit it out right then and there after 20 years of dipping Copenhagen. I found this site 9 days later at about 4:00 in the morning. And, with they help of you folks, I'm one day shy of 1 year without nicotine.
To new folks...yes, it is hard...hardest thing I think I have ever done. But there are no short-cuts. No pills, no patches, no bullshit. You just get your fucking head on straight, give your word that come Hell or high water you are not going to put that shit in your face for just one day. Then wake up the next day and do it again. I still fight urges (Dove season started on Sept 1...huge trigger). But I think back on that day, that other family, that little boy;s face...and the urges are babyshit.
So, 9/11 is an especially powerful day for me. I remember the folks we lost, the survivor families and their struggles, the soldiers since that time, all the heros. But, I think I found my silver lining...I QUIT and I'm still here quitting to help every person I can spare him/herself and their loved ones of the pain that 9/11 has come to symbolize.
Stay strong, stay quit. Living nic-free is totally worth it.
Absolutely fantastic! I just had one of those shit days. You know tired, grumpy, fuck it all kinda days.... Get on KTC to help reaffirm my quit, and I find this! Reading this didn't reaffirm my quit it made me stronger. Thank you for sharing, congratulations on the year.
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good job dude!!!
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Tomorrow is obviously a special day in America. But let me share (again) the significance to me.
9/11/10 - Came in from cutting the grass...dip in my mouth as usual...flicked on TV. It was as "survivors' story." I usually hated watching those. But I was too hot, tired, lazy to turn the channel. So I watched...and watched...and began tearing up and continued watching....
They interviewed a little boy who was about 12 or 13 about losing his father that fateful morning. I was tearing up like a baby. Nobody to play catch with, talk about girls, help with homework or watch baseball, etc. Other fathers tried to chip in, but nobody could fill his father's shoes. That little guy got choked up a couple of times telling his story. His mother could only stroke his head and brush his hair out of his face as they both fought back tears...
AND I'M SITTING THERE WITH A FUCKING DIP IN MY MOUTH!!! That was it. Done. Finished. I was madder than Hell at the Nic Bitch who would have me do that to mine own kids (3 yr boy, 1 yr girl).
That little guy's loss was completely beyond his control...like a lightening strike or freak accident. And it devastated him. It devastated his family. That family was missing a husband and father. There was talk of "good days and bad days." The events of 9/11 tortured that family for years. AND I WAS WILLFULLY DOING IT TO MINE!!! WTF?!!! I would strangle anyone who hurt my little boy and yet I went out of my way to buy Copenhagen and hide from my family and kill myself slowly. I was SICK.
That was it. I spit it out right then and there after 20 years of dipping Copenhagen. I found this site 9 days later at about 4:00 in the morning. And, with they help of you folks, I'm one day shy of 1 year without nicotine.
To new folks...yes, it is hard...hardest thing I think I have ever done. But there are no short-cuts. No pills, no patches, no bullshit. You just get your fucking head on straight, give your word that come Hell or high water you are not going to put that shit in your face for just one day. Then wake up the next day and do it again. I still fight urges (Dove season started on Sept 1...huge trigger). But I think back on that day, that other family, that little boy;s face...and the urges are babyshit.
So, 9/11 is an especially powerful day for me. I remember the folks we lost, the survivor families and their struggles, the soldiers since that time, all the heros. But, I think I found my silver lining...I QUIT and I'm still here quitting to help every person I can spare him/herself and their loved ones of the pain that 9/11 has come to symbolize.
Stay strong, stay quit. Living nic-free is totally worth it.
This is a awesome. So often we would feed our addiction in times such as these. This is a great illustration of what to do.
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What a fantastic post. Grats on the year.
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But there are no short-cuts. No pills, no patches, no bullshit. You just get your fucking head on straight, give your word that come Hell or high water you are not going to put that shit in your face for just one day. Then wake up the next day and do it again.
I freaking love this site and it's shit like this that remind me why. You are a bad ass mofo and I'm giving you a freaking cyber high five and bro hug for that shit! Very nicely said. I'm already motivated in my quit but thanks for topping it off with those words. Congrats on the year!
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Awesome, Bean. This is another great example of why I show up every day in the December 2010 group to post roll with you and the rest of the GUARD. Thanks for this. Powerful words, bro.
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Nice work Bean. Congratulations brother.
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Congrats Bean. 2 days into my quit and it's starting to get rough. Talking on the chat page now. But at least it's nice to read stories like that and realize there's still hope.
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500 days...HOLY SHIT that feels good to say!!! The real credit goes to the folks on this site. I owe my life to each one of you. Whether you are just starting out or if you were one of the vets when I was crawling the walls and not sleeping at night...my 500 days is attributable to you.
I was hopeless 500 days ago. I'd quit many times before...always failed. The ONLY thing I have done differently this time is to use this site...posting roll, learning about nic addiction from people who know and have been there and are beating it one day at a time.
So, if you're considering quitting - today is the day. You can do it. Take the first step. This site works!
If you're a newbie...keep fighting, it gets better. The fog will lift.
If you're a vet...stay strong and stay quit.
But most of all, no matter what you are, if you're on this site - THANK YOU!
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500 days...HOLY SHIT that feels good to say!!! The real credit goes to the folks on this site. I owe my life to each one of you. Whether you are just starting out or if you were one of the vets when I was crawling the walls and not sleeping at night...my 500 days is attributable to you.Â
I was hopeless 500 days ago. I'd quit many times before...always failed. The ONLY thing I have done differently this time is to use this site...posting roll, learning about nic addiction from people who know and have been there and are beating it one day at a time.Â
So, if you're considering quitting - today is the day. You can do it. Take the first step. This site works!
If you're a newbie...keep fighting, it gets better. The fog will lift.
If you're a vet...stay strong and stay quit.
But most of all, no matter what you are, if you're on this site - THANK YOU!
'worship'
- bluebonnetman
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Awesome. Congratulations.
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You da man now dog!
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Congrats! That's a "D" in Roman Numerals! Double D's will give you an "M." Or is it Double D's equal Mmmmmmm...... ?
Keep it up bud. I'm only an III, but the difference between an III and a D is just the blink of an eye in the grand scheme of things. That, and the infamous triad: (1) Post Roll (2) Keep Promise (3) Repeat Oh shit... I've ALREADY been indoctrinated!
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holy shit is right.
congrats on the 5th floor, bean. way to fight the good fight!
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'Cheers'
Awesome!
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Nice work bro. That is awesome.
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Goo goo stuff.
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500 days...HOLY SHIT that feels good to say!!! The real credit goes to the folks on this site. I owe my life to each one of you. Whether you are just starting out or if you were one of the vets when I was crawling the walls and not sleeping at night...my 500 days is attributable to you.
I was hopeless 500 days ago. I'd quit many times before...always failed. The ONLY thing I have done differently this time is to use this site...posting roll, learning about nic addiction from people who know and have been there and are beating it one day at a time.
So, if you're considering quitting - today is the day. You can do it. Take the first step. This site works!
If you're a newbie...keep fighting, it gets better. The fog will lift.
If you're a vet...stay strong and stay quit.
But most of all, no matter what you are, if you're on this site - THANK YOU!
Simply amazing. Way to be a terrific influence.
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500 days. Dayum. Nice work.
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Way to go Bean!!
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OUT...FREAKIN'...STANDING!!! 'Have a beer'
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Don't stop or look back now....great work
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I owe my life to this site and the people on it. I was a miserable, lying failure until I found this. By posting roll, I have managed over 500 days of freedom...and counting...
But one thing I have forgotten about (until today) is the $$$ saved calcluator on the KilltheCan.org link. I averaged half a can per day for 20 years...around $3 when I started (I think) and about $5.25 when I quit...figured $5 per can average. And a few days ago, I passed the $1,000.00 saved mark.
Of course I have run up quite a tab on candy, seeds and gum, but that is still a $1,000 kick in the nuts to Big Tobacco. Pretty fucking cool. Multiply that by all of the other bad ass quitters on this site and I'd say we're pretty much fist-fucking Big Tobacco in the face. Really fucking cool!!!
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33 strong new quitters!!! Awesome. Embrace the suck...it is the only way out.
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June Platoon. I converted to the church of soberness yesterday.
I really am glad I found this place. This has helped me realize that I am quitting for good. Not for show but for good. This is a good place for the support I need. I have done a lot of reading...I think I need to type "Fuck, Fucking, Fucker" more to get into the brotherhood. 'crackup'
It's day 2 but I have just barely past my 24hr sober mark. So I have been really introspective and sad. Maybe the next 24 hours brings out the "FUCK THIS, FUCK THAT and FUCK ME." Its actually awesome to have a forum to vent. I enjoy knowing that I'm not alone even though the quit is an individual moment.
Keep me laughing, (let lose on your rants and vents) I don't think about the cravings when I laugh. I'm only laughing at the vents because I get it and can relate.
Anyway, I have enjoyed some HO Fame members but if anyone is like me in the first stage of the journey and wants to carpool. I'm here.
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June Platoon. I converted to the church of soberness yesterday.
I really am glad I found this place. This has helped me realize that I am quitting for good. Not for show but for good. This is a good place for the support I need. I have done a lot of reading...I think I need to type "Fuck, Fucking, Fucker" more to get into the brotherhood. 'crackup'
It's day 2 but I have just barely past my 24hr sober mark. So I have been really introspective and sad. Maybe the next 24 hours brings out the "FUCK THIS, FUCK THAT and FUCK ME." Its actually awesome to have a forum to vent. I enjoy knowing that I'm not alone even though the quit is an individual moment.
Keep me laughing, (let lose on your rants and vents) I don't think about the cravings when I laugh. I'm only laughing at the vents because I get it and can relate.
Anyway, I have enjoyed some HO Fame members but if anyone is like me in the first stage of the journey and wants to carpool. I'm here.
Hang in there. Embrace the suck over the next 48hrs or so. I am on day 15, fighting this fucker every day and winning every day. I love winning this battle. you can do it. PM me if you need anything or want a number. -ww
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fuck, fucking fucker, fuckstick
CLick the link up to the right, live chat. Many fuckers in there to fuck with
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fuck, fucking fucker, fuckstick
CLick the link up to the right, live chat. Many fuckers in there to fuck with
Well, fuck me!
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June Platoon. I converted to the church of soberness yesterday.
I really am glad I found this place. This has helped me realize that I am quitting for good. Not for show but for good. This is a good place for the support I need. I have done a lot of reading...I think I need to type "Fuck, Fucking, Fucker" more to get into the brotherhood. 'crackup'
It's day 2 but I have just barely past my 24hr sober mark. So I have been really introspective and sad. Maybe the next 24 hours brings out the "FUCK THIS, FUCK THAT and FUCK ME." Its actually awesome to have a forum to vent. I enjoy knowing that I'm not alone even though the quit is an individual moment.
Keep me laughing, (let lose on your rants and vents) I don't think about the cravings when I laugh. I'm only laughing at the vents because I get it and can relate.
Anyway, I have enjoyed some HO Fame members but if anyone is like me in the first stage of the journey and wants to carpool. I'm here.
MT - Awesome man, I am on day 10 today...glad you are here!
It is really the only place where everyone just gets it. They aren't happy for you because you are quitting something that they think is gross. We are happy because we know exactly what you are going through and how much it sucks.
Hit me up with a PM if you need anything, I am down bro...lets keep on the quit today.
aredoubleyou
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June Platoon. I converted to the church of soberness yesterday.
I really am glad I found this place. This has helped me realize that I am quitting for good. Not for show but for good. This is a good place for the support I need. I have done a lot of reading...I think I need to type "Fuck, Fucking, Fucker" more to get into the brotherhood. 'crackup'
It's day 2 but I have just barely past my 24hr sober mark. So I have been really introspective and sad. Maybe the next 24 hours brings out the "FUCK THIS, FUCK THAT and FUCK ME." Its actually awesome to have a forum to vent. I enjoy knowing that I'm not alone even though the quit is an individual moment.Â
Keep me laughing, (let lose on your rants and vents) I don't think about the cravings when I laugh. I'm only laughing at the vents because I get it and can relate.Â
Anyway, I have enjoyed some HO Fame members but if anyone is like me in the first stage of the journey and wants to carpool. I'm here.
Hang in there. Embrace the suck over the next 48hrs or so. I am on day 15, fighting this fucker every day and winning every day. I love winning this battle. you can do it. PM me if you need anything or want a number. -ww
So maybe this is what you mean by being foggy. When I am invited to PM (does that stand for, "Phone Me?") I click the fucking little icon enter some statement, like here is my number my real name is....when I click to send it, it says that I don't have an address entered.
Okay so I take the persons stage name and click on it. I don't FUCKING understand how PM works. How do you reply with a PM that goes to the person who invited you to PM.
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June Platoon. I converted to the church of soberness yesterday.
I really am glad I found this place. This has helped me realize that I am quitting for good. Not for show but for good. This is a good place for the support I need. I have done a lot of reading...I think I need to type "Fuck, Fucking, Fucker" more to get into the brotherhood.  'crackup'
It's day 2 but I have just barely past my 24hr sober mark. So I have been really introspective and sad. Maybe the next 24 hours brings out the "FUCK THIS, FUCK THAT and FUCK ME." Its actually awesome to have a forum to vent. I enjoy knowing that I'm not alone even though the quit is an individual moment.Â
Keep me laughing, (let lose on your rants and vents) I don't think about the cravings when I laugh. I'm only laughing at the vents because I get it and can relate.Â
Anyway, I have enjoyed some HO Fame members but if anyone is like me in the first stage of the journey and wants to carpool. I'm here.
Hang in there. Embrace the suck over the next 48hrs or so. I am on day 15, fighting this fucker every day and winning every day. I love winning this battle. you can do it. PM me if you need anything or want a number. -ww
So maybe this is what you mean by being foggy. When I am invited to PM (does that stand for, "Phone Me?") I click the fucking little icon enter some statement, like here is my number my real name is....when I click to send it, it says that I don't have an address entered.
Okay so I take the persons stage name and click on it. I don't FUCKING understand how PM works. How do you reply with a PM that goes to the person who invited you to PM.
I just shit my pants trying to understand this.
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So if I'm reading correctly, it looks like groups are looking for one place to post role, and another to "chat"... that about right?
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So if I'm reading correctly, it looks like groups are looking for one place to post role, and another to "chat"... that about right?
Sounds good to me it seems that if you try to chat in roll call it gets lost. Or last roll can get lost in a big brew haw and have bumps. But wtf do I know I'm still finding my site legs.
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So if I'm reading correctly, it looks like groups are looking for one place to post role, and another to "chat"... that about right?
If only there was a link that you could click on to "Live Chat".
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Day 718 and I woke with a vague feeling of total defeat. Then I realized it was all a bad dream. WTF?!!! Almost 2 years later and that nasty bitch is still lurking around.
I suspect it was triggered by Dove season...getting my stuff ready for September 1. Or maybe it was college football? Those were two of my toughest times. Whatever it was, it underscored one thing...NEVER LET YOUR GUARD DOWN. That bitch is still lurking out there.
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Day 718 and I woke with a vague feeling of total defeat. Then I realized it was all a bad dream. WTF?!!! Almost 2 years later and that nasty bitch is still lurking around.
I suspect it was triggered by Dove season...getting my stuff ready for September 1. Or maybe it was college football? Those were two of my toughest times. Whatever it was, it underscored one thing...NEVER LET YOUR GUARD DOWN. That bitch is still lurking out there.
That's crazy...i know I'm only on day 31, but after almost every meal, especially big ones, just for a split second I think about that big ass dip I'm about to get. Then back to reality, I've probably dreamt about it 5-6 times. Yeah that whore tries to spread her legs for me all the time..but I'm rock solid son (no pun intended especially since I'm making a sexual reference to dipping). Strong like an oak (ooops) like a rock (uh), cock strong (nevermind).
Bean..you get what I was saying.
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Day 718 and I woke with a vague feeling of total defeat. Then I realized it was all a bad dream. WTF?!!! Almost 2 years later and that nasty bitch is still lurking around.
I suspect it was triggered by Dove season...getting my stuff ready for September 1. Or maybe it was college football? Those were two of my toughest times. Whatever it was, it underscored one thing...NEVER LET YOUR GUARD DOWN. That bitch is still lurking out there.
That's crazy...i know I'm only on day 31, but after almost every meal, especially big ones, just for a split second I think about that big ass dip I'm about to get. Then back to reality, I've probably dreamt about it 5-6 times. Yeah that whore tries to spread her legs for me all the time..but I'm rock solid son (no pun intended especially since I'm making a sexual reference to dipping). Strong like an oak (ooops) like a rock (uh), cock strong (nevermind).
Bean..you get what I was saying.
yeah ive been doing a lot of bow shoots getting ready for deer season and its truly hard no to dip when im out in the woods shooting my bow and setting up everything else that goes along with hunting and im only of day 8
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Day 718 and I woke with a vague feeling of total defeat. Then I realized it was all a bad dream. WTF?!!! Almost 2 years later and that nasty bitch is still lurking around.
I suspect it was triggered by Dove season...getting my stuff ready for September 1. Or maybe it was college football? Those were two of my toughest times. Whatever it was, it underscored one thing...NEVER LET YOUR GUARD DOWN. That bitch is still lurking out there.
That's crazy...i know I'm only on day 31, but after almost every meal, especially big ones, just for a split second I think about that big ass dip I'm about to get. Then back to reality, I've probably dreamt about it 5-6 times. Yeah that whore tries to spread her legs for me all the time..but I'm rock solid son (no pun intended especially since I'm making a sexual reference to dipping). Strong like an oak (ooops) like a rock (uh), cock strong (nevermind).
Bean..you get what I was saying.
yeah ive been doing a lot of bow shoots getting ready for deer season and its truly hard no to dip when im out in the woods shooting my bow and setting up everything else that goes along with hunting and im only of day 8
Be even harder to do with cancer and no fucking jaw
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Day 718 and I woke with a vague feeling of total defeat. Then I realized it was all a bad dream. WTF?!!! Almost 2 years later and that nasty bitch is still lurking around.
I suspect it was triggered by Dove season...getting my stuff ready for September 1. Or maybe it was college football? Those were two of my toughest times. Whatever it was, it underscored one thing...NEVER LET YOUR GUARD DOWN. That bitch is still lurking out there.
That's crazy...i know I'm only on day 31, but after almost every meal, especially big ones, just for a split second I think about that big ass dip I'm about to get. Then back to reality, I've probably dreamt about it 5-6 times. Yeah that whore tries to spread her legs for me all the time..but I'm rock solid son (no pun intended especially since I'm making a sexual reference to dipping). Strong like an oak (ooops) like a rock (uh), cock strong (nevermind).
Bean..you get what I was saying.
yeah ive been doing a lot of bow shoots getting ready for deer season and its truly hard no to dip when im out in the woods shooting my bow and setting up everything else that goes along with hunting and im only of day 8
Be even harder to do with cancer and no fucking jaw
Now, THAT'S a great point Eric!
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2 years ago, I came in from mowing the lawn. My son (then 3) sat in my lap. We watched some "9-11 Survivors" news show. I watched a little boy who lost his father when Tower 1 came down. He was 3 at the time. I listened as he told how difficult life had been (baseball, school, girls) without a father. Other dads tried to fill in for that little guy, but nobody could replace his dad. He went on and on. His mother spoke of "good days and bad," difficult times and trying to find the positives in all of this misery.
That man did nothing wrong. He just went to work...and never came home. It devastated his family. And here I was, sitting there on my fucking couch with a fucking dip in my lip. Like a total selfish fuck-head, I was going to sentence my own family and kids to a life of misery. Why? Because it was just soooo hard to quit. Ooh, I might get a headache. Or, I really enjoyed dipping when I drove...FUCK THAT!!! I wanted to live. I wanted to be the one who hugged my wife and taught my son to throw a baseball. I wanted to cook-out with them. I wanted to hunt fish with my son. And so, that was it...I quit, cold turkey, right then and there.
I spit out my dip, dumped my can, and cursed it. 20+ years of dipping ended right then and there. I didn't know how I was going to do it, but I knew that I sure as shit wasn't going to kill myself and torture my family.
Then 9 sleepless, constipated, headache-filled, grouchy days later, I found this site early one morning. I read and read. These people got it. They knew more about my addiction than I did. These mother-fuckers knew what quitting was all about. Tom Kern was me. "What to Expect" was exactly right. Link after link, this shit was for real and hit the mark. These fuckers knew what quitting was all about...and they were doing it. Whether Day 1 or Day 1000, they were on here living nic free.
So, I posted roll, read all I could, I came back and did it all again. Somebody (Chewie or Greg5280) taught me the "one day at a time" mentality. That finally allowed me not to lose focus or become overwhelmed at the thought of "quitting forever." Because I learned I didn't have to...I was just quitting with these folks one day at a time. I knew I could give my word. I knew that I could keep my word if it was just for one day. And I knew I could wake up and do it all again. Holy shit...I was learning to live nic free.
But the key wasn't what I did. The key was YOU...a bunch of total strangers took a few minutes to encourage me, help and hold me accountable. And that alone has made all the difference in the world to me and my family. I want to say THANK YOU to each one of you who is beating nicotine one day at a time with me. I'm dead serious and humbled when I say that I couldn't have done this without each and every last one of you bad-ass, mother fucking, quitters!!!
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2 years ago, I came in from mowing the lawn. My son (then 3) sat in my lap. We watched some "9-11 Survivors" news show. I watched a little boy who lost his father when Tower 1 came down. He was 3 at the time. I listened as he told how difficult life had been (baseball, school, girls) without a father. Other dads tried to fill in for that little guy, but nobody could replace his dad. He went on and on. His mother spoke of "good days and bad," difficult times and trying to find the positives in all of this misery.
That man did nothing wrong. He just went to work...and never came home. It devastated his family. And here I was, sitting there on my fucking couch with a fucking dip in my lip. Like a total selfish fuck-head, I was going to sentence my own family and kids to a life of misery. Why? Because it was just soooo hard to quit. Ooh, I might get a headache. Or, I really enjoyed dipping when I drove...FUCK THAT!!! I wanted to live. I wanted to be the one who hugged my wife and taught my son to throw a baseball. I wanted to cook-out with them. I wanted to hunt fish with my son. And so, that was it...I quit, cold turkey, right then and there.
I spit out my dip, dumped my can, and cursed it. 20+ years of dipping ended right then and there. I didn't know how I was going to do it, but I knew that I sure as shit wasn't going to kill myself and torture my family.
Then 9 sleepless, constipated, headache-filled, grouchy days later, I found this site early one morning. I read and read. These people got it. They knew more about my addiction than I did. These mother-fuckers knew what quitting was all about. Tom Kern was me. "What to Expect" was exactly right. Link after link, this shit was for real and hit the mark. These fuckers knew what quitting was all about...and they were doing it. Whether Day 1 or Day 1000, they were on here living nic free.
So, I posted roll, read all I could, I came back and did it all again. Somebody (Chewie or Greg5280) taught me the "one day at a time" mentality. That finally allowed me not to lose focus or become overwhelmed at the thought of "quitting forever." Because I learned I didn't have to...I was just quitting with these folks one day at a time. I knew I could give my word. I knew that I could keep my word if it was just for one day. And I knew I could wake up and do it all again. Holy shit...I was learning to live nic free.
But the key wasn't what I did. The key was YOU...a bunch of total strangers took a few minutes to encourage me, help and hold me accountable. And that alone has made all the difference in the world to me and my family. I want to say THANK YOU to each one of you who is beating nicotine one day at a time with me. I'm dead serious and humbled when I say that I couldn't have done this without each and every last one of you bad-ass, mother fucking, quitters!!!
And thank you Bean you paid forward that same help and support you received to those of us that came after you. That is one of the things that makes this work the Brotherhood!
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2 years ago, I came in from mowing the lawn. My son (then 3) sat in my lap. We watched some "9-11 Survivors" news show. I watched a little boy who lost his father when Tower 1 came down. He was 3 at the time. I listened as he told how difficult life had been (baseball, school, girls) without a father. Other dads tried to fill in for that little guy, but nobody could replace his dad. He went on and on. His mother spoke of "good days and bad," difficult times and trying to find the positives in all of this misery.Â
That man did nothing wrong. He just went to work...and never came home. It devastated his family. And here I was, sitting there on my fucking couch with a fucking dip in my lip. Like a total selfish fuck-head, I was going to sentence my own family and kids to a life of misery. Why? Because it was just soooo hard to quit. Ooh, I might get a headache. Or, I really enjoyed dipping when I drove...FUCK THAT!!! I wanted to live. I wanted to be the one who hugged my wife and taught my son to throw a baseball. I wanted to cook-out with them. I wanted to hunt fish with my son. And so, that was it...I quit, cold turkey, right then and there.    Â
I spit out my dip, dumped my can, and cursed it. 20+ years of dipping ended right then and there. I didn't know how I was going to do it, but I knew that I sure as shit wasn't going to kill myself and torture my family.Â
Then 9 sleepless, constipated, headache-filled, grouchy days later, I found this site early one morning. I read and read. These people got it. They knew more about my addiction than I did. These mother-fuckers knew what quitting was all about. Tom Kern was me. "What to Expect" was exactly right. Link after link, this shit was for real and hit the mark. These fuckers knew what quitting was all about...and they were doing it. Whether Day 1 or Day 1000, they were on here living nic free.Â
So, I posted roll, read all I could, I came back and did it all again. Somebody (Chewie or Greg5280) taught me the "one day at a time" mentality. That finally allowed me not to lose focus or become overwhelmed at the thought of "quitting forever." Because I learned I didn't have to...I was just quitting with these folks one day at a time. I knew I could give my word. I knew that I could keep my word if it was just for one day. And I knew I could wake up and do it all again. Holy shit...I was learning to live nic free.   Â
But the key wasn't what I did. The key was YOU...a bunch of total strangers took a few minutes to encourage me, help and hold me accountable. And that alone has made all the difference in the world to me and my family. I want to say THANK YOU to each one of you who is beating nicotine one day at a time with me. I'm dead serious and humbled when I say that I couldn't have done this without each and every last one of you bad-ass, mother fucking, quitters!!!
And thank you Bean you paid forward that same help and support you received to those of us that came after you. That is one of the things that makes this work the Brotherhood!
ditto, just pay it forward like we do.
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2 years ago, I came in from mowing the lawn. My son (then 3) sat in my lap. We watched some "9-11 Survivors" news show. I watched a little boy who lost his father when Tower 1 came down. He was 3 at the time. I listened as he told how difficult life had been (baseball, school, girls) without a father. Other dads tried to fill in for that little guy, but nobody could replace his dad. He went on and on. His mother spoke of "good days and bad," difficult times and trying to find the positives in all of this misery.
That man did nothing wrong. He just went to work...and never came home. It devastated his family. And here I was, sitting there on my fucking couch with a fucking dip in my lip. Like a total selfish fuck-head, I was going to sentence my own family and kids to a life of misery. Why? Because it was just soooo hard to quit. Ooh, I might get a headache. Or, I really enjoyed dipping when I drove...FUCK THAT!!! I wanted to live. I wanted to be the one who hugged my wife and taught my son to throw a baseball. I wanted to cook-out with them. I wanted to hunt fish with my son. And so, that was it...I quit, cold turkey, right then and there.
I spit out my dip, dumped my can, and cursed it. 20+ years of dipping ended right then and there. I didn't know how I was going to do it, but I knew that I sure as shit wasn't going to kill myself and torture my family.
Then 9 sleepless, constipated, headache-filled, grouchy days later, I found this site early one morning. I read and read. These people got it. They knew more about my addiction than I did. These mother-fuckers knew what quitting was all about. Tom Kern was me. "What to Expect" was exactly right. Link after link, this shit was for real and hit the mark. These fuckers knew what quitting was all about...and they were doing it. Whether Day 1 or Day 1000, they were on here living nic free.
So, I posted roll, read all I could, I came back and did it all again. Somebody (Chewie or Greg5280) taught me the "one day at a time" mentality. That finally allowed me not to lose focus or become overwhelmed at the thought of "quitting forever." Because I learned I didn't have to...I was just quitting with these folks one day at a time. I knew I could give my word. I knew that I could keep my word if it was just for one day. And I knew I could wake up and do it all again. Holy shit...I was learning to live nic free.
But the key wasn't what I did. The key was YOU...a bunch of total strangers took a few minutes to encourage me, help and hold me accountable. And that alone has made all the difference in the world to me and my family. I want to say THANK YOU to each one of you who is beating nicotine one day at a time with me. I'm dead serious and humbled when I say that I couldn't have done this without each and every last one of you bad-ass, mother fucking, quitters!!!
Great post thanks for sharing and keeping it real
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Awfully Good stuff Mr. Bean....Thank you for being there for ME with your words of encouragement. You have a powerful QUIT and a POWERFUL way with words.
Cheers! I quit with YOU today sir. 'bang head'
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Today is Day 1,000. I popped off in my quit group...does this comma make my quit look big? (Wish I had come up with that...but I copied it from some other badass quitter that came before me). But everyone reading this deserves something better than a plagiarized wise-ass comment. So here goes...
I was a lying miserable shit of a husband, a father and person. I was a professional excuse-maker. I was going to end up disfigured (at best) or dead. i knew it. i was going to subject those who love me the most to years of torture and pain (see the Tom and Jenny Kern Story). but i was powerless. I had stopped many times before, but i couldn't stay quit. I always caved. Then, I found this site...and the folks on here...YOU, READING THIS NOW...have made all the difference.
You badasses have made "the comma" possible. Whether i was posting roll, encouraging newbies or getting straightened out by vets, YOU have made it possible for me to make myself a better person. What did it cost me? Nothing but my word. They just asked that I post roll and read all I could (exactly what I request of any newbie...nothing more or less).
I know that i couldn't have done this alone. I am able to control my stupid fucking addiction because of you and the One Day at a Time mentality. So, thanks...from the bottom of my heart. I truly love each and every goddam one of YOU for what you've enabled me to accomplish. Your quit brother, The Bean.
Now, if you will excuse me, I'm going to make my way to two commas. (Never been good at math).
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Plus one you quit stud! I'm with you today.
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I'm glad I chose to quit so that I could read these words. You are awesome!
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Absolutly thrilled to be quit with you today!!!
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Thank you for giving me hope on a day that had so much negativity! Great job
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!!!!!FUCKING OUSTANDING!!!!!!!! Thank you for a paved road.
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Thanks for being here Bean.. I am quit with you as well.
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Today is Day 1,000. I popped off in my quit group...does this comma make my quit look big? (Wish I had come up with that...but I copied it from some other badass quitter that came before me). But everyone reading this deserves something better than a plagiarized wise-ass comment. So here goes...
I was a lying miserable shit of a husband, a father and person. I was a professional excuse-maker. I was going to end up disfigured (at best) or dead. i knew it. i was going to subject those who love me the most to years of torture and pain (see the Tom and Jenny Kern Story). but i was powerless. I had stopped many times before, but i couldn't stay quit. I always caved. Then, I found this site...and the folks on here...YOU, READING THIS NOW...have made all the difference.
You badasses have made "the comma" possible. Whether i was posting roll, encouraging newbies or getting straightened out by vets, YOU have made it possible for me to make myself a better person. What did it cost me? Nothing but my word. They just asked that I post roll and read all I could (exactly what I request of any newbie...nothing more or less).
I know that i couldn't have done this alone. I am able to control my stupid fucking addiction because of you and the One Day at a Time mentality. So, thanks...from the bottom of my heart. I truly love each and every goddam one of YOU for what you've enabled me to accomplish. Your quit brother, The Bean.
Now, if you will excuse me, I'm going to make my way to two commas. (Never been good at math).
I want a comma just so I be that damn elegantly quit. That was fabulous. Nothing but respect from us to you.
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Way to go Bean! Your quit inspires me!
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way to go Bean I will always remember your post you made on my thread...I pass it on to those in the suck frequently! keep it up you comma stud.
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Very nice. Congrats, sir.
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Inspiring. Congrats and thank you
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Damn Bean. You must have some gigantic balls. 1,000 days. That's fucking awesome. You da man
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You da Bean!!!!
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Bad Ass Sir thank you for paving the way. Inspiration and motivation all wrapped up in one Amazing Quitter.
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'worship' 'worship'
You fucking rock. Wear that comma with pride man.
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Bean, thanks for emulating the greats on this site to show us another example of badassery of quit and continue to pay it forward!
This is what its about!!!!
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LIKE
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Your attitude will largely determine the daily results of your quit.
I got some junk email about "positive thinking." Some items hit home. So, I edited them to fit KTC...newbies, in particular.
1. Life is a story...make yours a positive one. You may not be able to change the past, but you can influence the outcome. You control your thoughts and actions right now.
2. Model yourself after success. Look at all of the quitters in the Quit Groups. What do they all have in common? If you can see their names, they all posted roll today and are living free. If they can succeed, so can you. So post roll, live free and be an example for someone else. There is strength in numbers.
3. Replace "have to" with "get to." This simple word swap can change your attitude. Turns a complaining voice into an appreciative voice. Acknowledge that life is a gift - not an obligation. You GET to feel this crappy because you made a GREAT choice to be free. ItÂ’s physiologically impossible to be stressed and thankful at the same time (probably...I'm not a doctor).
4. Talk to Yourself instead of Listening to Yourself. You're an addict. Don't let an addict tell you hat you can have one more. Take control. You tell yourself that you posted roll and gave your word. THERE WILL BE NO NICOTINE TODAY.
5. Create a positive vision. Embrace the suck. Instead of being disappointed about where you are, or feeling sorry for yourself, make the decision to be pumped about where you are going.
6. No more complaining. When you realize youÂ’re about to complain, replace your thoughts and words with positive actions. Log on and encourage others, exercise, drink water, declare your freedom. Turn complaints into solutions.
(There were about 9 items in the article I'm plagiarizing...but these seemed to be to be the most helpful. You get the idea.) Hope this helps!
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Had to go back almost two and a half years to dust off this bad boy, but wanted to say congrats on 5 years (tomorrow apparently). Thanks for all the advice you drop in the intros, it is inspiring to read and helpful to my quit as I am sure it is to hundreds of others. Five years is huge 'Cheers'
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Had to go back almost two and a half years to dust off this bad boy, but wanted to say congrats on 5 years (tomorrow apparently). Thanks for all the advice you drop in the intros, it is inspiring to read and helpful to my quit as I am sure it is to hundreds of others. Five years is huge 'Cheers'
Thanks bean,you were one of the first vets to set me straight on my quit! 5 year's is frigging awesome! Damn proud to be quit with you my brother!