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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: pacertom on February 08, 2012, 12:22:00 PM
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Figured I would Introduce myself since I plan on being here indefinately.
I originally was going to quit on February 11th, my 43rd and while gearing up, came across KTC. I actually had one in when I came across it.....After reading many of the topics, reviews and especially the Kern story, I flushed the half can I WAS going to use until Saturday.
27 years I've had this fucking disgusting habit...I played HS College baseball(always around) on a traveling national softball team(always around), and the last 10 years or so, Bass Fishing tournaments(always around). There are more but as I reflect, it has always been a part of my life.
I attended a funeral Monday of a beautiful 33 year old mother of 2, our neighbor and friend. She died of cancer after being diagnosed only 8 months ago...It was not smoke or dip related but seeing her at home, in hospice last week made me think of me on that gurney. I keep this shit up and I am done....I have to think the "next one" is the one that triggers that cell and leads to oral cancer.
I quit once, last year for 40 days without any aids, support, anything...I was over the hump so to speak. For a reason I honestly cannot think of today, I caved on the 41st day...If I had you guys to think of and kick the shit out of me if that did happen, I would be in the 300 range and completely free.
This is my story in a nutshell....I am a man of my word and I am giving you all my word here that I will NEVER have another dip as long as I live.
pacertom - Irving, TX
PM me for digits
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Don't try to quit for the rest of your life bro. Just promise you won't use today. Every day. I quit with you today.
Find your group, post roll. Glad to have you.
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Don't try to quit for the rest of your life bro. Just promise you won't use today. Every day. I quit with you today.
Find your group, post roll. Glad to have you.
I hear you...promise made.
I rolled yesterday and today, all set.
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Don't try to quit for the rest of your life bro. Just promise you won't use today. Every day. I quit with you today.
Find your group, post roll. Glad to have you.
I hear you...promise made.
I rolled yesterday and today, all set.
Listen to moonpie and the rest of these guys Tom. What you are up against the next few days is going to test you to the limit. You CAN do this. Reach out if you need anything.
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Tom, I also joined up yesterday after a 26 year habit. I'm just going to go day by day with you.
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yeah tom just keep posting roll and quit everyday and you should be fine
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Don't try to quit for the rest of your life bro. Just promise you won't use today. Every day. I quit with you today.
Find your group, post roll. Glad to have you.
I hear you...promise made.
I rolled yesterday and today, all set.
Listen to moonpie and the rest of these guys Tom. What you are up against the next few days is going to test you to the limit. You CAN do this. Reach out if you need anything.
1 day at a time. Just for today. Today only.
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I had to post something....getting so fucking mad.
The justifications for caving and the defensive bullshit reasoning into it are appalling. Its not that I am mad about that particularly, its the rest of the world, how we were brought up...Try, fail, it's ok try again mentality. The "Participation Trophy" crowd.
I feel like I have been screwed out of some BASIC coping skills from that part of society the more I get involved here.
Why did it take so long for me to find this.....Even the fucking doctor wanted to do the Nic patches and "see how it goes" when I wanted to quit a few years ago....If only I had COACH_DOC instead of this old queer geezer would I have pulled up my big girl panties and quit.
Thank you KTC...The simplicity of following the plan others have traveled before you.
ok...better now, carry on!
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I had to post something....getting so fucking mad.
The justifications for caving and the defensive bullshit reasoning into it are appalling. Its not that I am mad about that particularly, its the rest of the world, how we were brought up...Try, fail, it's ok try again mentality. The "Participation Trophy" crowd.
I feel like I have been screwed out of some BASIC coping skills from that part of society the more I get involved here.
Why did it take so long for me to find this.....Even the fucking doctor wanted to do the Nic patches and "see how it goes" when I wanted to quit a few years ago....If only I had COACH_DOC instead of this old queer geezer would I have pulled up my big girl panties and quit.
Thank you KTC...The simplicity of following the plan others have traveled before you.
ok...better now, carry on!
Good post. Rage is good sometimes.
About your doctor. I had a doctor tell me to try to quit when life was 'less stressful'. That was almost 12 years ago.
The plan here works, and it looks like you're working it.
Stay strong. Stay focused. Stay quit.
Shout at me if you need anything.
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I had to post something....getting so fucking mad.
The justifications for caving and the defensive bullshit reasoning into it are appalling. Its not that I am mad about that particularly, its the rest of the world, how we were brought up...Try, fail, it's ok try again mentality. The "Participation Trophy" crowd.
I feel like I have been screwed out of some BASIC coping skills from that part of society the more I get involved here.
Why did it take so long for me to find this.....Even the fucking doctor wanted to do the Nic patches and "see how it goes" when I wanted to quit a few years ago....If only I had COACH_DOC instead of this old queer geezer would I have pulled up my big girl panties and quit.
Thank you KTC...The simplicity of following the plan others have traveled before you.
ok...better now, carry on!
PT, you are right...completely.
It reminds me of what happened about a year or so ago. My second son is competitive....VERY COMPETITIVE. He has been on Championship baseball, football and hockey teams and medals regularly individually in wrestling. That being said, he still received trophies every year - even when the teams he was on were not champions.
Last year, while looking at all his trophies and medals, he turned to me and asked, "Did you have this many trophies when you were my age?" I said, "No, not even close. When I was a kid, you only got a trophy when you were champions...there were no trophies for participation."
Nowadays, it's all about political correctness, not wanting to crush the potential in people and being kinder and gentler. BS. I saw a perfect post the other day on Facebook...it read something like:
"For those who complain about this generation, remember who raised them."
If you want support, trust, committment, empathy, teamwork....EARN it! And if you need help, ASK FOR IT! Good post PT....I got yer back, brother!
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I had to post something....getting so fucking mad.
The justifications for caving and the defensive bullshit reasoning into it are appalling. Its not that I am mad about that particularly, its the rest of the world, how we were brought up...Try, fail, it's ok try again mentality. The "Participation Trophy" crowd.
I feel like I have been screwed out of some BASIC coping skills from that part of society the more I get involved here.
Why did it take so long for me to find this.....Even the fucking doctor wanted to do the Nic patches and "see how it goes" when I wanted to quit a few years ago....If only I had COACH_DOC instead of this old queer geezer would I have pulled up my big girl panties and quit.
Thank you KTC...The simplicity of following the plan others have traveled before you.
ok...better now, carry on!
Good post. Rage is good sometimes.
About your doctor. I had a doctor tell me to try to quit when life was 'less stressful'. That was almost 12 years ago.
The plan here works, and it looks like you're working it.
Stay strong. Stay focused. Stay quit.
Shout at me if you need anything.
Appreciate it and I will....I realize I am in the first 1/4 mile of Forrest Gump's run and STRONG as hell right now. I cannot even imagine giving into a crave. I haven't shared my quit plan here but it works like a charm and actually a little eager to use it when the shit hits the fan. 1 Day at a time
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I had to post something....getting so fucking mad.
The justifications for caving and the defensive bullshit reasoning into it are appalling. Its not that I am mad about that particularly, its the rest of the world, how we were brought up...Try, fail, it's ok try again mentality. The "Participation Trophy" crowd.
I feel like I have been screwed out of some BASIC coping skills from that part of society the more I get involved here.
Why did it take so long for me to find this.....Even the fucking doctor wanted to do the Nic patches and "see how it goes" when I wanted to quit a few years ago....If only I had COACH_DOC instead of this old queer geezer would I have pulled up my big girl panties and quit.
Thank you KTC...The simplicity of following the plan others have traveled before you.
ok...better now, carry on!
Good post. Rage is good sometimes.
About your doctor. I had a doctor tell me to try to quit when life was 'less stressful'. That was almost 12 years ago.
The plan here works, and it looks like you're working it.
Stay strong. Stay focused. Stay quit.
Shout at me if you need anything.
Now send me some BBQ. I'm hungry!!!!
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I had to post something....getting so fucking mad.
The justifications for caving and the defensive bullshit reasoning into it are appalling. Its not that I am mad about that particularly, its the rest of the world, how we were brought up...Try, fail, it's ok try again mentality. The "Participation Trophy" crowd.
I feel like I have been screwed out of some BASIC coping skills from that part of society the more I get involved here.
Why did it take so long for me to find this.....Even the fucking doctor wanted to do the Nic patches and "see how it goes" when I wanted to quit a few years ago....If only I had COACH_DOC instead of this old queer geezer would I have pulled up my big girl panties and quit.
Thank you KTC...The simplicity of following the plan others have traveled before you.
ok...better now, carry on!
Good post. Rage is good sometimes.
About your doctor. I had a doctor tell me to try to quit when life was 'less stressful'. That was almost 12 years ago.
The plan here works, and it looks like you're working it.
Stay strong. Stay focused. Stay quit.
Shout at me if you need anything.
Appreciate it and I will....I realize I am in the first 1/4 mile of Forrest Gump's run and STRONG as hell right now. I cannot even imagine giving into a crave. I haven't shared my quit plan here but it works like a charm and actually a little eager to use it when the shit hits the fan. 1 Day at a time
What's your plan?
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I had to post something....getting so fucking mad.
The justifications for caving and the defensive bullshit reasoning into it are appalling. Its not that I am mad about that particularly, its the rest of the world, how we were brought up...Try, fail, it's ok try again mentality. The "Participation Trophy" crowd.
I feel like I have been screwed out of some BASIC coping skills from that part of society the more I get involved here.
Why did it take so long for me to find this.....Even the fucking doctor wanted to do the Nic patches and "see how it goes" when I wanted to quit a few years ago....If only I had COACH_DOC instead of this old queer geezer would I have pulled up my big girl panties and quit.
Thank you KTC...The simplicity of following the plan others have traveled before you.
ok...better now, carry on!
Good post. Rage is good sometimes.
About your doctor. I had a doctor tell me to try to quit when life was 'less stressful'. That was almost 12 years ago.
The plan here works, and it looks like you're working it.
Stay strong. Stay focused. Stay quit.
Shout at me if you need anything.
Appreciate it and I will....I realize I am in the first 1/4 mile of Forrest Gump's run and STRONG as hell right now. I cannot even imagine giving into a crave. I haven't shared my quit plan here but it works like a charm and actually a little eager to use it when the shit hits the fan. 1 Day at a time
What's your plan?
My Quit Plan - My Crave Reflex
1. Post Roll every morning within 30 minutes. Make my promise to quit today
2. Get on KTC and READ something before work...go to live chat
3. If not near computer, pull out picture of Outdoortexan's surgery and stare for 5 minutes and reflect
4. Oral fixation...fakey, gum, seeds, dick...whatever it takes
5. If for some reason my peabrain doesn't register with the pictures, pull out contract
6. Read Tom Kern Story
7. Call Craig in Chicago, Froman, ZAM, Andy...
8. Never get past step 3.
Looking for feedback Vets....You've been where I am now...
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OUTFUCKINGSTANDING. You are going to do this bro. You will own this shit. Good to read some proactive quitting going on. Get yourself ready. Fight.
Know there are a few thousand addicts just like you here and we just dig giving support when needed.
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I had to post something....getting so fucking mad.
The justifications for caving and the defensive bullshit reasoning into it are appalling. Its not that I am mad about that particularly, its the rest of the world, how we were brought up...Try, fail, it's ok try again mentality. The "Participation Trophy" crowd.
I feel like I have been screwed out of some BASIC coping skills from that part of society the more I get involved here.
Why did it take so long for me to find this.....Even the fucking doctor wanted to do the Nic patches and "see how it goes" when I wanted to quit a few years ago....If only I had COACH_DOC instead of this old queer geezer would I have pulled up my big girl panties and quit.
Thank you KTC...The simplicity of following the plan others have traveled before you.
ok...better now, carry on!
Good post. Rage is good sometimes.
About your doctor. I had a doctor tell me to try to quit when life was 'less stressful'. That was almost 12 years ago.
The plan here works, and it looks like you're working it.
Stay strong. Stay focused. Stay quit.
Shout at me if you need anything.
Appreciate it and I will....I realize I am in the first 1/4 mile of Forrest Gump's run and STRONG as hell right now. I cannot even imagine giving into a crave. I haven't shared my quit plan here but it works like a charm and actually a little eager to use it when the shit hits the fan. 1 Day at a time
What's your plan?
My Quit Plan - My Crave Reflex
1. Post Roll every morning within 30 minutes. Make my promise to quit today
2. Get on KTC and READ something before work...go to live chat
3. If not near computer, pull out picture of Outdoortexan's surgery and stare for 5 minutes and reflect
4. Oral fixation...fakey, gum, seeds, dick...whatever it takes
5. If for some reason my peabrain doesn't register with the pictures, pull out contract
6. Read Tom Kern Story
7. Call Craig in Chicago, Froman, ZAM, Andy...
8. Never get past step 3.
Looking for feedback Vets....You've been where I am now...
One thing missing is numbers. You never know when calling or texting a brother is gonna help you. Get at least 3. You start feeling weak give someone a buzz. Do it well before you think you might get a tin in your hands. Need a number give me a PM, I'm happy to share.
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I had to post something....getting so fucking mad.
The justifications for caving and the defensive bullshit reasoning into it are appalling. Its not that I am mad about that particularly, its the rest of the world, how we were brought up...Try, fail, it's ok try again mentality. The "Participation Trophy" crowd.
I feel like I have been screwed out of some BASIC coping skills from that part of society the more I get involved here.
Why did it take so long for me to find this.....Even the fucking doctor wanted to do the Nic patches and "see how it goes" when I wanted to quit a few years ago....If only I had COACH_DOC instead of this old queer geezer would I have pulled up my big girl panties and quit.
Thank you KTC...The simplicity of following the plan others have traveled before you.
ok...better now, carry on!
Good post. Rage is good sometimes.
About your doctor. I had a doctor tell me to try to quit when life was 'less stressful'. That was almost 12 years ago.
The plan here works, and it looks like you're working it.
Stay strong. Stay focused. Stay quit.
Shout at me if you need anything.
Appreciate it and I will....I realize I am in the first 1/4 mile of Forrest Gump's run and STRONG as hell right now. I cannot even imagine giving into a crave. I haven't shared my quit plan here but it works like a charm and actually a little eager to use it when the shit hits the fan. 1 Day at a time
What's your plan?
My Quit Plan - My Crave Reflex
1. Post Roll every morning within 30 minutes. Make my promise to quit today
2. Get on KTC and READ something before work...go to live chat
3. If not near computer, pull out picture of Outdoortexan's surgery and stare for 5 minutes and reflect
4. Oral fixation...fakey, gum, seeds, dick...whatever it takes
5. If for some reason my peabrain doesn't register with the pictures, pull out contract
6. Read Tom Kern Story
7. Call Craig in Chicago, Froman, ZAM, Andy...
8. Never get past step 3.
Looking for feedback Vets....You've been where I am now...
One thing missing is numbers. You never know when calling or texting a brother is gonna help you. Get at least 3. You start feeling weak give someone a buzz. Do it well before you think you might get a tin in your hands. Need a number give me a PM, I'm happy to share.
Thanks Tarpon...I will....Numbers, see 7..covered that base
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I had to post something....getting so fucking mad.
The justifications for caving and the defensive bullshit reasoning into it are appalling. Its not that I am mad about that particularly, its the rest of the world, how we were brought up...Try, fail, it's ok try again mentality. The "Participation Trophy" crowd.
I feel like I have been screwed out of some BASIC coping skills from that part of society the more I get involved here.
Why did it take so long for me to find this.....Even the fucking doctor wanted to do the Nic patches and "see how it goes" when I wanted to quit a few years ago....If only I had COACH_DOC instead of this old queer geezer would I have pulled up my big girl panties and quit.
Thank you KTC...The simplicity of following the plan others have traveled before you.
ok...better now, carry on!
Good post. Rage is good sometimes.
About your doctor. I had a doctor tell me to try to quit when life was 'less stressful'. That was almost 12 years ago.
The plan here works, and it looks like you're working it.
Stay strong. Stay focused. Stay quit.
Shout at me if you need anything.
Appreciate it and I will....I realize I am in the first 1/4 mile of Forrest Gump's run and STRONG as hell right now. I cannot even imagine giving into a crave. I haven't shared my quit plan here but it works like a charm and actually a little eager to use it when the shit hits the fan. 1 Day at a time
What's your plan?
My Quit Plan - My Crave Reflex
1. Post Roll every morning within 30 minutes. Make my promise to quit today
2. Get on KTC and READ something before work...go to live chat
3. If not near computer, pull out picture of Outdoortexan's surgery and stare for 5 minutes and reflect
4. Oral fixation...fakey, gum, seeds, dick...whatever it takes
5. If for some reason my peabrain doesn't register with the pictures, pull out contract
6. Read Tom Kern Story
7. Call Craig in Chicago, Froman, ZAM, Andy...
8. Never get past step 3.
Looking for feedback Vets....You've been where I am now...
One thing missing is numbers. You never know when calling or texting a brother is gonna help you. Get at least 3. You start feeling weak give someone a buzz. Do it well before you think you might get a tin in your hands. Need a number give me a PM, I'm happy to share.
Thanks Tarpon...I will....Numbers, see 7..covered that base
Only thing I can suggest (what I don't see addressed in your plan) is how to prevent putting yourself in harms way - what can you proactively do in order to try and prevent getting into a crave?
I think it looks like a good plan...like I said, plans should ALWAYS be evolving to match yuor quit...neither should be static
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I had to post something....getting so fucking mad.
The justifications for caving and the defensive bullshit reasoning into it are appalling. Its not that I am mad about that particularly, its the rest of the world, how we were brought up...Try, fail, it's ok try again mentality. The "Participation Trophy" crowd.
I feel like I have been screwed out of some BASIC coping skills from that part of society the more I get involved here.
Why did it take so long for me to find this.....Even the fucking doctor wanted to do the Nic patches and "see how it goes" when I wanted to quit a few years ago....If only I had COACH_DOC instead of this old queer geezer would I have pulled up my big girl panties and quit.
Thank you KTC...The simplicity of following the plan others have traveled before you.
ok...better now, carry on!
Good post. Rage is good sometimes.
About your doctor. I had a doctor tell me to try to quit when life was 'less stressful'. That was almost 12 years ago.
The plan here works, and it looks like you're working it.
Stay strong. Stay focused. Stay quit.
Shout at me if you need anything.
Appreciate it and I will....I realize I am in the first 1/4 mile of Forrest Gump's run and STRONG as hell right now. I cannot even imagine giving into a crave. I haven't shared my quit plan here but it works like a charm and actually a little eager to use it when the shit hits the fan. 1 Day at a time
What's your plan?
My Quit Plan - My Crave Reflex
1. Post Roll every morning within 30 minutes. Make my promise to quit today
2. Get on KTC and READ something before work...go to live chat
3. If not near computer, pull out picture of Outdoortexan's surgery and stare for 5 minutes and reflect
4. Oral fixation...fakey, gum, seeds, dick...whatever it takes
5. If for some reason my peabrain doesn't register with the pictures, pull out contract
6. Read Tom Kern Story
7. Call Craig in Chicago, Froman, ZAM, Andy...
8. Never get past step 3.
Looking for feedback Vets....You've been where I am now...
One thing missing is numbers. You never know when calling or texting a brother is gonna help you. Get at least 3. You start feeling weak give someone a buzz. Do it well before you think you might get a tin in your hands. Need a number give me a PM, I'm happy to share.
Thanks Tarpon...I will....Numbers, see 7..covered that base
doh!
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My mouth is sore as hell....I don't have the "sores" of healing as I have read before, it's more of an overall soreness in places I rarely dipped before. The lower right and left sides of my mouth have a texture like a candy sucker have been there for a couple hours, rough. Also my cheeks seems to be swollen a little bit, I keep biting the hell out of my inside cheeks...
I am going to the dentist later this week but looking for someone to reply that they've had similar and it will pass...It's been a week like this...On day 36 and it just started.
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So I am on day 36, doing great with my quit. After reading on here I decided to get some Atomic Fireballs as an oral substitute. Like anything else, I have an addictive personality and went through several of these things...They're freakin awesome...
The last 3 days however, I started getting white patches inside my cheeks and my mouth if soooooooooooo damn sore, it's hard to eat.
After a little research, found several studies and people with a reaction to cinnamon flavoring, that of which is in Big Red, Atomic Fireballs, some toothpaste etc....
I was scared until I found it and just in case someone here is having the same reaction, you're OK and not gonna die tomorrow.
The condition is called "cinnamon-induced stomatitis"
I booked a dentist appointment today because of this....I'll still go but gotta ease up on the fireballs....
There's my public service yall....
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Speaking of big red gum, I just bumped SWJ's intro thread. If you've never read it, go there and enjoy the whole thread.
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So I am on day 36, doing great with my quit. After reading on here I decided to get some Atomic Fireballs as an oral substitute. Like anything else, I have an addictive personality and went through several of these things...They're freakin awesome...
The last 3 days however, I started getting white patches inside my cheeks and my mouth if soooooooooooo damn sore, it's hard to eat.
After a little research, found several studies and people with a reaction to cinnamon flavoring, that of which is in Big Red, Atomic Fireballs, some toothpaste etc....
I was scared until I found it and just in case someone here is having the same reaction, you're OK and not gonna die tomorrow.
The condition is called "cinnamon-induced stomatitis"
I booked a dentist appointment today because of this....I'll still go but gotta ease up on the fireballs....
There's my public service yall....
I had two of those fireballs early on in my quit. That may have been one too many. Those things are insane. I know many quitters on here that have found success on here by using them, but they are crazy. I will stick to sunflowers seeds during a crave or sugar-free chewing gum. I can taste those fireballs just thinking about it. :( Stay quit brother and thanks for sharing.
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Those atomic fireballs are awesome as a substitute. But yeah, you eat too many they will tear up your mouth. Same thing would happen to me. Also, I used to bite into them and chipped a damn back tooth. Was a simple fix at the dentist but was annoying. I still have a stash of several bags of them but only eat them once in awhile - maybe one every 3 days or so. That frequency doesn't cause harm to my mouth.
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hay man i went thru them fire balls like they were... well candy. i dint notise any thing in my mouth but man i can tell you there was a time ware i coodnt taste any thinng. i rote bout that over at my intro im pritty sure. now i just have one evry now and agin for fun. but man for 50 days or there bouts those things keept me quit.
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Don't get me wrong...they are a perfect substitute but some people will have a reaction to the cinnamon oil flavoring they use...I sure as heck did and knew this wasn't the "mouth healing itself"...
Still got a bunch of them, just have to wait it out and moderate!
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So I am on day 36, doing great with my quit. After reading on here I decided to get some Atomic Fireballs as an oral substitute. Like anything else, I have an addictive personality and went through several of these things...They're freakin awesome...
The last 3 days however, I started getting white patches inside my cheeks and my mouth if soooooooooooo damn sore, it's hard to eat.
After a little research, found several studies and people with a reaction to cinnamon flavoring, that of which is in Big Red, Atomic Fireballs, some toothpaste etc....
I was scared until I found it and just in case someone here is having the same reaction, you're OK and not gonna die tomorrow.
The condition is called "cinnamon-induced stomatitis"
I booked a dentist appointment today because of this....I'll still go but gotta ease up on the fireballs....
There's my public service yall....
Thanks for sharing pacer. Good info. I have gone with altoids to satisfy my oral fixation (after 3 weeks of stuffing my piehole with whatever food was handy and gaining 15 lbs). Haven't noticed any side effects, other than much better breath than when I was chewing...
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So I am on day 36, doing great with my quit. After reading on here I decided to get some Atomic Fireballs as an oral substitute. Like anything else, I have an addictive personality and went through several of these things...They're freakin awesome...
The last 3 days however, I started getting white patches inside my cheeks and my mouth if soooooooooooo damn sore, it's hard to eat.
After a little research, found several studies and people with a reaction to cinnamon flavoring, that of which is in Big Red, Atomic Fireballs, some toothpaste etc....
I was scared until I found it and just in case someone here is having the same reaction, you're OK and not gonna die tomorrow.
The condition is called "cinnamon-induced stomatitis"
I booked a dentist appointment today because of this....I'll still go but gotta ease up on the fireballs....
There's my public service yall....
Definitely good to know Pacertom - I got sick of the sunflower seeds just last night and ran out to CVS to get the fireballs. I guess I'll get a rotation of gum/seeds/fireballs going so I don't
1: Tear my mouth up with cinnamon oil(s)
2: Get lockjaw from chewing gum constantly
3: Destroy myself with massive salt intake
All of that is certainly better than succumbing to the nic bitch! Thanks for mentioning that!
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There's a lot of guys here having issues with balls in their mouths!!! 'crackup'
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There's a lot of guys here having issues with balls in their mouths!!! 'crackup'
'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup' 'crackup'
THAT was very well said!
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Well played....well played indeed. :D
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I had the same problem with the atomic fireballs. Jolly Rancher cinnamon aren't quite as hot and seem to work as well to kill a crave
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I had the same problem with the atomic fireballs. Jolly Rancher cinnamon aren't quite as hot and seem to work as well to kill a crave
I fished in a bass tournament this weekend, Friday and Saturday and I ate the hell out of them. I haven't had one today and my mouth is already healing....thank goodness.
Moderation TK...moderation!