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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: mattatk81 on May 19, 2011, 03:47:00 AM
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My wife found this page for me. Sounds like it could help, and I'm hoping it does. I am 30 years old, work on industrial equipment, love mma, boxing and I'm a gear head. Not offended easily but I have a short fuse, which is gonna make this even more fun. Anyone out there goin through this or that has I hope we can share a few kicks in the ass when I start actin like a pussy.
I want to quit but truth be told I love dippin. I love it after big meals, while I'm drivin workin, layin PIPE, or fishin, love copenhagen and coffee, skoal mint and root beer, hell I love it with fries and fry sauce. I am "hopelessly addicted" as Ledoux said.
Been wakin up and goin to bed with acid reflux for so long I cant remember a day without tums or rolaids, shoulda bought stock!
The other day the wife bought that Insanity workout video off tv, and I tried the fit test and was ashamed at how poorly I did. Wieght liftin and sports used to be my thing.... I have no stamina and my heart felt like it was going to explode... I cant do near what I used to and it's depressing, so it's time to give it up. It's gonna be rough since I drive all over for work and the guys at work dip and most of my customers and friends.
So now I gotta put my big boy pants on and pick a day to give it up.... even thinkin about that pisses me off and gives me anxiety.... I need "medical" mary J!
Enough about me just wanted to say hi and good luck to all of you in your own battle with this.
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My wife found this page for me. Sounds like it could help, and I'm hoping it does. I am 30 years old, work on industrial equipment, love mma, boxing and I'm a gear head. Not offended easily but I have a short fuse, which is gonna make this even more fun. Anyone out there goin through this or that has I hope we can share a few kicks in the ass when I start actin like a pussy.
I want to quit but truth be told I love dippin. I love it after big meals, while I'm drivin workin, layin PIPE, or fishin, love copenhagen and coffee, skoal mint and root beer, hell I love it with fries and fry sauce. I am "hopelessly addicted" as Ledoux said.
Been wakin up and goin to bed with acid reflux for so long I cant remember a day without tums or rolaids, shoulda bought stock!
The other day the wife bought that Insanity workout video off tv, and I tried the fit test and was ashamed at how poorly I did. Wieght liftin and sports used to be my thing.... I have no stamina and my heart felt like it was going to explode... I cant do near what I used to and it's depressing, so it's time to give it up. It's gonna be rough since I drive all over for work and the guys at work dip and most of my customers and friends.
So now I gotta put my big boy pants on and pick a day to give it up.... even thinkin about that pisses me off and gives me anxiety.... I need "medical" mary J!
Enough about me just wanted to say hi and good luck to all of you in your own battle with this.
I love quitting. Do you want to know how? http://www.killthecan.org/community/welcome.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/community/welcome.asp)
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Welcome Matt,
The hopelessly addicted thoughts are an addiction that has taken your mind hostage. Thousands have taken their lives back and broken the chains of addiction by a simple concept of
1. Post Roll- a promise to everyone here not to use for 1 day.
2. Honor that promise
3. Wake up tomorrow and go to step 1
The first 2-3 days are going to be intense, as nicotine leaves your body. Remember what it feels like, and know that you never have to go through a day 1,2, or 3 again.
Glad to be quit with you,
30
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So now I gotta put my big boy pants on and pick a day to give it up.... even thinkin about that pisses me off and gives me anxiety.... I need "medical" mary J!
Enough about me just wanted to say hi and good luck to all of you in your own battle with this.
how bout puttin on you big boy pants and pickin today? cause let me tell ya tomorow aint comin. hell you soound all pussy wipped and shit. you prolly dont even want to quit. your old lady draged your pussy ass in here. you made your only post ever prolly with a fatty in. and saterday you'll tell her it just dint work.
prove me rong cupcake.
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Read this...he didnt want to quit either...he loved it as much as you did as did all of us....We all have been there, but we have made the greatest decision ever to quit....Ask any quitter here that has been at it a little while....Life is much better now then it ever was when dipping......I dipped for 16 years 2 cans aday and I couldnt be happier that I am quit.....You need anything PM me
Jennny Tom Kern's Story
Tom started chewing just as many of these men did. He was about 13 when he was helping out on his grandpa's farm, and someone gave him a chew. He continued chewing through high school in his varies sports (mainly baseball). Tom and I meet his sophomore year in college. I continually told him I didn't like his chewing, and he continually ignored me. Being in his dorm room was disgusting. I never put my pop can down while I was in there - you know why! Many cans were accidentally kicked over, so the carpet smelled horrible and was brown from all the stains. When he asked me to marry him, I said, "Yes, if you quit chewing." You know how long that lasted. He would just sneak it. As many of the writer's said, he would wait until I left. Or he would chew to and from work, at softball games, Boundary Waters trips, hunting and fishing trips. Anytime I wasn't there, I'm sure a dip was. Finally, I caught him. We had arguments about it. I am a teacher, and one year I received a video to show my fifth graders about a teenage boy who died from chewing tobacco related cancer. I took it home and showed Tom. He was unfazed. He thought he was a big strong football player. It wasn't going to happen to him. After our daughter was born, he said he would quit. After our next daughter was born, and our son, and our last daughter. After many debates, I told him I didn't want it around me, the kids, the house. I didn't want to see it, hear about it, or know about it. I didn't want that STUFF to be an example for our kids. They all looked up to their dad, and I didn't want them to think it was cool!
In October of 2003, Tom had a sore on the inside of his cheek that wasn't going away. He thought he had bitten his cheek, and it was infected. The doctor put him on antibiotics for 10 days. After that didn't work, he went to an ENT. This doctor looked at it and said, "I think it's cancer." One week later, we received the bad news - squamous cell carcinoma. Five days later, we saw the surgeon. He said it was Stage 1, it looked very small, and he thought surgery would be the end of it. We were so relieved that there wouldn't be any radiation or chemo. One week later (Nov. 28, 2003) Tom had surgery. I looked at some of the pictures on the website, and you could easily add Tom's picture to it. He was cut from the middle of his bottom lip, down his neck, over to the right, and up behind his right ear. He had a trachea because the tumor was in his jaw so he could only open his mouth about an inch, and they were afraid he might aspirate. When he came home 5 days later, our eight year old daughter cried because he looked so scary. This made Tom (my 235 pound football player) cry! (Tom DOESN'T cry!)
We thought we were done. However, the pathologist report on the lymph nodes was that one out of fourteen had come back with some cancer cells in it. The surgeon said it was Tom's choice, but he would recommend radiation. He started radiation on Jan. 5, 2004. It was not a normal treatment of radiation. It was a newer type that would do less damage to surrounding tissue, but instead of being radiated for a couple of minutes, it would take 30 minutes. Monday though Friday for 6 1/2 weeks. He got very sick, couldn't eat (he said food tasted like shards of glass), and dropped down to 175 pounds. After the treatments were over, he would feel lousy for a couple more weeks, then he would gradually start feeling better. This happened, until April. He started feeling bad again. He was very depressed and went on anti-depression medication.
May 1, 2004 was the beginning of the end. Our 15 year old daughter was going to prom, and we went to take pictures. Tom got out of the car and began throwing up. His vision was also being affected. What was going on! This began day after day of doctor's appointments and tests. Finally, at the end of May, we got our answer - the cancer was back with a vengeance. Chemo would give him a year or two. But I thought a year or two would give us time to look around at all our options, and medical science was always coming up with something new. At this point, Tom had a food tube put in because he couldn't get much down. Between the pre-op physical and surgery (3 days) he lost 30 pounds! The cancer was eating him alive. He was scheduled to go to the Mayo Clinic on June 7 (his 42nd birthday).
On June 3 he spiked a fever, and I took him to the hospital. They ambulanced him to Minneapolis. They found lesions in most of his internal organs. After 5 days of testing, they found that it was all squamous cell carcinoma. We brought our children to the hospital on June 10 to tell them that their dad was going to die. That has been one of the most painful times of my life. To see my children (ages 16, 12, 9, 7) touch their once robust, jolly father who lay lifeless in his hospital bed and know he was dying just killed me. Two days later, we were all around him as he took his last breath. Our oldest child threw herself on his legs and cried, "Don't go, Dad!"
Stage 1 cancer, 1.3 centimeters in size - and he was dead in less than seven months from the day he was diagnosed. He never thought it would happen to him. Someone once asked me what the chances of getting cancer from chewing tobacco was, and I replied that it didn't matter what the chances are if you are the one who gets it. You never know if it will be you.
As I continued to read some of the entries, the tears began to fall as I saw Tom's name. Some of the writer's said that Tom's story helped them to continue on their journey of being tobacco free. This would have meant so much to Tom, and means so much to me. Tom spoke to our 16 year old's health class right after he was done with radiation. He told them that he thought he was only hurting himself, but he realized that this addiction hurt anyone who has ever cared about him. He was a very selfless person, and it hurt him to know that he was putting all of us through hell. He wasn't thinking about himself, and all the pain and suffering he was going through. That was the kind of man he was.
Our eight year old daughter comes to me often at night crying. She asks why companies make things that kill people, and why did Dad have to chew. I don't have any answers for her. Tom felt so guilty about his choice to continue chewing. He couldn't believe the power of his addiction. Two weeks after his surgery he said, "You're not going to believe this, but I just had a craving for a chew!"
One year later, we are surviving, but not really loving life. Maybe someday we will get there, but for now I want to put my head on his barrel chest and have him wrap his arms around me and just hold me tight. I want to hear him tell the stories I heard him tell a hundred times, but still laughed until I cried every time I heard them. He was so full of life, until chewing tobacco took his life.
I am glad that so many people have been helped by this website. I only wish Tom had been aware of it. I want to thank you for letting me tell Tom's story, for e-mails I've received, for entries on Tom's caring bridge website, for financial support, and for your prayers. I wish you all success in staying tobacco free. God bless you.
Jenny Kern
http://www.caringbridge.org/mn/tomkern/ (http://www.caringbridge.org/mn/tomkern/)
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my wife found this place for me too. we were doing research for my June 1 quit date. she went to bed, i kept reading KTC and realized that the only thing that June 1 was going to give me was 14 more cans of death in my face, and the nic bitch another two weeks to worm her way deeper into my soul.
i flushed 1.5 cans down the toilet, and haven't looked back. day 3 (yesterday) was the toughest day for me so far. by light years. but it's my last day 3, and i only have to get through the next 24 hrs. honestly, flushing the dip was the hardest single moment of the past 72+ hrs.
matt, i don't know you yet, but someone into mma, boxing, and industrial shit isn't a pussy. stop acting like one, post roll, and be quit. i'll quit with you every day, and so will a ton of people here. another couple of days isn't going to make things any easier; it's only going to make it that much harder.
let me know if i can help...
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We can't want it for you enough for it to work, nor can your wife, family or friends. You're a dipper and that is what you will be first, foremost and only as long as you allow the addiction to rule your life instead of ruling your addiction.
When you want it we'll be here...quit. We'll be the guys enjoying time with loved ones and friends instead of sneaking off to get a dip. We'll be the ones that don't have a panic attack at any mention of the big C. We'll be here waiting for you to join us and make our quits stronger.
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Only one thing for you to do my friend, put your big boy panties on and QUIT!!!!
Post roll every day and keep your word. Sounds pretty simple don't it? Well it is and it isn't. If you are a man of your word you will keep your word to us and not dip for the 24 hrs in that day. The next day start all over. Do not even consider quitting forever. Forever is too much for the human brain to register. Do it one day at a time and before you know it you will have some quality quit under your belt.
PM if you need anything.
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my wife found this place for me too. we were doing research for my June 1 quit date. she went to bed, i kept reading KTC and realized that the only thing that June 1 was going to give me was 14 more cans of death in my face, and the nic bitch another two weeks to worm her way deeper into my soul.
i flushed 1.5 cans down the toilet, and haven't looked back. day 3 (yesterday) was the toughest day for me so far. by light years. but it's my last day 3, and i only have to get through the next 24 hrs. honestly, flushing the dip was the hardest single moment of the past 72+ hrs.
matt, i don't know you yet, but someone into mma, boxing, and industrial shit isn't a pussy. stop acting like one, post roll, and be quit. i'll quit with you every day, and so will a ton of people here. another couple of days isn't going to make things any easier; it's only going to make it that much harder.
let me know if i can help...
Matt, this is the kind of attitude you need to be quit. Today is the day of salvation. You aren't going to dip enough between now and some future quit date to satisfy you for the rest of your life. You're an addict. You will never get enough nicotine to satisfy you. Ask yourself why you can't quit today. I guarantee you that every excuse you come up with is nothing more than your addiction talking. I had many quit dates that got pushed back because of "stressful times" or some other nonsense.
Quitting isn't easy, but it is so worth it. After 15 years of being a slave to the can, I've been nic free for 133 days. My only regret is that I didn't man up and quit years ago. Give me a shout if I can help.
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Matt - A lot of these dudes on here are hardcore. I wasn't - I still am not - but they know what the hell they're talking about. We all agree on the basic precepts of the site - post roll, keep your word, repeat. I'm on day 93 - the verge of the "Hall of Fame," and I still love the memories of dipping - after a big meal, mowing the lawn, taking a deuce, and especially after turning on some Air Supply to get the wife in the mood and successfully "Making Love Out of Nothing At All." Nothing seemed better than those lippers. BUT, there is some things actually better than them - freedom, life, a wife, hope, kids, forgiveness, baseball, friends, love from God, etc. The list could go on - and does, it gets longer and longer for me every day. You need to find one thing to put on that list for now and START NOW. "_____ is more important to me than dipping." Then watch the list grow. People around here will help you through the suck that is embedded in such a statement.
PM me if you need anything.
-Ben
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There is no luck in quitting.
Just get to it.
You can do this...we got your back.
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Wow.... just got on here to see if anyone had looked at my intro while I had a free minute at work. And yeah I got another fatty in....
Syndrome you pegged it I did post that with a big fatty in, caught red handed! Husker06484... damn that story reminded me of my uncle that I havent thought about in years... I was too young to understand when he died but I remember being told he got cancer from chewing. I remember that he scared the hell out of me because he talked strange, he would sneak around the corner to try to get me to talk to him. But when I heard him say my name I would run as fast as I could because he scared me so bad. The docs had to cut his tongue out. Mom told me they said he wouldn't be able to talk but he did it. I remember the call the night he past, he went in for surgery but was too weak to be put under so they could only numb the areas where they were cutting out the cancer, to try and prolong his life another couple of months. He died on the table. He endured tons of pain through his life, lost a leg in WW2, cancer, diabetes. I just realised while reading that, that he had to have one hell of a love for life to willingly go through that for just a few months more. And man I regret running.
Thanks to all of you I wish I had time to respond to all of you right now but I gotta get to work, but you all were heard loud and clear and I didnt expect anyone to really take the time to even respond. I am spittin this out and headed to dump the rest down the toilet. I will post roll call tomorow since I've broke the rules already today. Thanks to all of you and I hope one day I can return the favor by helpin someone like you all did me.
So I give you all my word on my uncle Eltons grave I am done.
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Wow.... just got on here to see if anyone had looked at my intro while I had a free minute at work. And yeah I got another fatty in....
Syndrome you pegged it I did post that with a big fatty in, caught red handed! Husker06484... damn that story reminded me of my uncle that I havent thought about in years... I was too young to understand when he died but I remember being told he got cancer from chewing. I remember that he scared the hell out of me because he talked strange, he would sneak around the corner to try to get me to talk to him. But when I heard him say my name I would run as fast as I could because he scared me so bad. The docs had to cut his tongue out. Mom told me they said he wouldn't be able to talk but he did it. I remember the call the night he past, he went in for surgery but was too weak to be put under so they could only numb the areas where they were cutting out the cancer, to try and prolong his life another couple of months. He died on the table. He endured tons of pain through his life, lost a leg in WW2, cancer, diabetes. I just realised while reading that, that he had to have one hell of a love for life to willingly go through that for just a few months more. And man I regret running.
Thanks to all of you I wish I had time to respond to all of you right now but I gotta get to work, but you all were heard loud and clear and I didnt expect anyone to really take the time to even respond. I am spittin this out and headed to dump the rest down the toilet. I will post roll call tomorow since I've broke the rules already today. Thanks to all of you and I hope one day I can return the favor by helpin someone like you all did me.
So I give you all my word on my uncle Eltons grave I am done.
No need to wait. Post roll in August 2011 group now. Roll is your promise that you will not use nicotine in any form today. If you're willing to flush the can and make that promise, today is day 1. Stop thinking about it and do it. Worry about tomorrow when it gets here. Just quit today. Right now. And go post your day 1.
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I agree with gmann. Go post roll ASAP. If you were surprised at the support you have had to date, post roll and see what comes your way. We have your back as soon as you commit to saving your own life. Choice is yours.
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Post roll tomorrow?
fuck that, dump that can RIGHT NOW!!!!!! and post up a day one. There is no tomorrow, you know it and I know it. DO IT!!!
sM
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Matt - A lot of these dudes on here are hardcore. I wasn't - I still am not - but they know what the hell they're talking about. We all agree on the basic precepts of the site - post roll, keep your word, repeat. I'm on day 93 - the verge of the "Hall of Fame," and I still love the memories of dipping - after a big meal, mowing the lawn, taking a deuce, and especially after turning on some Air Supply to get the wife in the mood and successfully "Making Love Out of Nothing At All." Nothing seemed better than those lippers. BUT, there is some things actually better than them - freedom, life, a wife, hope, kids, forgiveness, baseball, friends, love from God, etc. The list could go on - and does, it gets longer and longer for me every day. You need to find one thing to put on that list for now and START NOW. "_____ is more important to me than dipping." Then watch the list grow. People around here will help you through the suck that is embedded in such a statement.
PM me if you need anything.
-Ben
I will not say I am quit forever...... I don't have to.
All I have to say is I'm quit for today and make a promise.
I will do that again tomorrow and forever will get worked out in the process.....
TCOPE
Do it today
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Wow.... just got on here to see if anyone had looked at my intro while I had a free minute at work. And yeah I got another fatty in....
Syndrome you pegged it I did post that with a big fatty in, caught red handed! Husker06484... damn that story reminded me of my uncle that I havent thought about in years... I was too young to understand when he died but I remember being told he got cancer from chewing. I remember that he scared the hell out of me because he talked strange, he would sneak around the corner to try to get me to talk to him. But when I heard him say my name I would run as fast as I could because he scared me so bad. The docs had to cut his tongue out. Mom told me they said he wouldn't be able to talk but he did it. I remember the call the night he past, he went in for surgery but was too weak to be put under so they could only numb the areas where they were cutting out the cancer, to try and prolong his life another couple of months. He died on the table. He endured tons of pain through his life, lost a leg in WW2, cancer, diabetes. I just realised while reading that, that he had to have one hell of a love for life to willingly go through that for just a few months more. And man I regret running.
Thanks to all of you I wish I had time to respond to all of you right now but I gotta get to work, but you all were heard loud and clear and I didnt expect anyone to really take the time to even respond. I am spittin this out and headed to dump the rest down the toilet. I will post roll call tomorow since I've broke the rules already today. Thanks to all of you and I hope one day I can return the favor by helpin someone like you all did me.
So I give you all my word on my uncle Eltons grave I am done.
ok matt man we got 2 big steps out a you. first you came back, then you threw the shit out. now you gotta comit yourself to your quit. cause you no what? its gonna suck for a few days. man all these dudes will tell you that. but man as you can see guys round here got your back.
start up a jernal man. rite down how it feels so you dont forget. hell make it sound 10 times worser. any time you even think bout takin a dip no you gotta go threw that agin next time you want to quit. man i no i aint gonna go threw all that shit agin. hell i dont even have to look at all the number what i got but i got em any ways.
now all you gotta do is post up on the roll call evry dam day. and gess what? your all reddy payin it back to the next guys what come along.
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Start knocking the nic BITCH out NOW!!!....... procrastination leads to further addiction!! From an addict that knows! NIco 'tough'
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Would love to have you post with us in August 2011. Some mighty fine Quitters in there. You can do this man. Drink the Kool Aid!
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post roll today, keep your word today, and the rest follows. flush the can now, get it done. start the rest of your life today, dip-free.
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holy crap in a bucket what a great fucking day to quit!
dump the shit and put your word down.
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welcome to the aug '11 quit group... let me know if i can do anything to help.
post roll every morning, keep your word, stay quit. simple, but not easy.
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Matt --- welcome to the fun house! I am 7 days quit as of today -- and I was like you last Friday. Hell, read my thread about it here:
I don't want to quit! (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=4710&st=60)
I too enjoyed the taste, at work, at home, driving, all the time! As you read my thread, I was going to quit the next day or so - as soon as my last can was done. But if I had actually waited til it was done, I would have ended up getting another can, then another, and so on. I said I wanted to quit, but it was just lip service, because I was an addict.
I am glad I posted on here that I wanted to quit, and I am glad the guys on here were pretty harsh on me (they actually knew what I needed to hear and how to say it). They opened my eyes to the pussy I was, and I threw out my newly purchased can and have not looked back. Well, I have looked back and sometimes the Nic Bitch is staring me down, but I have won for today and the previous days.
This is not a I'm done forever, I have forever removed dip from my life kinda thing. As an addict we have to take small steps - 1 day at a time. Shit, at times it's just 1 hour at a time. I have posted roll mid day after a panic attic this past week - just to reiterate to myself that I have quit!
Don't lie to yourself anymore --- throw that fucking can away. It will be hard, and you will / may go looking for a can to get you through. Don't cave - you will be happier once you are past 3-4 days of quitting. At day 7 I am finally getting sleep -- yes - finally. Stock up on seeds, hard candy and pretzels - you will need them.
There are a bunch of guys who can help you out - and I'll throw my name in the hat - send me a PM if you are feeling shitty and need some help. We can go through this with you - but you have to be the one who wants it (cuz we already want you to).
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Matt- Saw that you posted Day 1. Awesome! Proud to be Quit with you. Let me know if there's anything I can do. Peace
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Thanks for the support guys. On to day two. See what ya mean by foggy now day one was a breeze but today I will experience the suck. 'bang head'
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Thanks for the support guys. On to day two. See what ya mean by foggy now day one was a breeze but today I will experience the suck. 'bang head'
Hang in there, it does get a lot better. Let me know if I can do anything for you.
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This is just fuckin' awesome, Matt. I just read this whole thread, and you're bad-assery has strengthened my quit. Thank you for that, sir.
Now grit your teeth, grab your sack and embrace the suck. You got this, my friend and we got your back. Let's get it done!
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This is just fuckin' awesome, Matt. I just read this whole thread, and you're bad-assery has strengthened my quit. Thank you for that, sir.Â
Now grit your teeth, grab your sack and embrace the suck. You got this, my friend and we got your back. Let's get it done!
Thanks kneedragger but I'm no bad ass just another lucky bastard that got told he was a tool before my addiction killed me. The bad asses are the ones that went through this and stick around to get us started and see us through. But I am happy my lil story over the last few days helped you.
I see people everyday chewin or smokin and at first it made it harder for me to quit. But now that I have been off long enough to see how foolish I was, seeing all those guys being owned everyday makes me see how grim my future was and how lucky I am that someone stood up and called me out and challenged me to not be a dumb ass anymore. I wouldn't have stopped or even thought twice about it until it was too late without this site.
Day 6 and shit seems to be gettin better. Startin to feel like I have a little more energy. Been doin a lot of things I was always too tired to do or too lazy. Spendin time in the man cave is helpin keep my mind off the shit. I even pulled out the old crotch rocket I tore apart 2 years ago and got it runnin the other night. Now I'm hopin to get the axel off my 71 chev truck and mount up a 9" ford rear end I've had layin in the garage for a year. Hell may be able to race again before the years over!
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Here I am again.... last time don't matter had years under my belt and pissed it all away. Same story, hell I'm dippin now typing my intro just like last time.... different town, different faces in life but back to using dip again and getting told it's time to be an adult and throw this shit away. Turned 34 this year been off and on the can since I was 16 but mostly on. I found something here last time that helped so I am looking for it again.... I need to get mad at my addiction again... I need someone who is in the shit and understands the process with me telling me not to be a pussy... I need to shut up and sweat it out with all the bad asses on here that have had enough too. Posting up again in the morning and really looking forward to hearing back from someone who has the balls to tell me what I need to hear... and I'm looking forward to getting my attitude back about being done with this and moving on... 'bang head'
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Wow. Here's a thought. How about you fuck off with this "I'm quitting dip but here I am dipping in my introduction" nonsense? This place isn't going to help you if you don't actually want to quit. If you want to quit, grow a pair of balls and actually do it and get into the suck. Don't get in here with one of these haphazard, 2:30 AM anxious "i should really stop dipping" posts about how you need to remember how to be pissed at your addiction and so forth.
If you want to stop, stop, and the August guys and I and everyone else can help you from there. But until you make that decision for yourself, you can get fucked. If you keep putting off day 1 ("after this can!"), then day 1 never comes. Make the decision right now that you've already had your last dip ever and just start that 72 hours of suck.
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Wow. Here's a thought. How about you fuck off with this "I'm quitting dip but here I am dipping in my introduction" nonsense? This place isn't going to help you if you don't actually want to quit. If you want to quit, grow a pair of balls and actually do it and get into the suck. Don't get in here with one of these haphazard, 2:30 AM anxious "i should really stop dipping" posts about how you need to remember how to be pissed at your addiction and so forth.
If you want to stop, stop, and the August guys and I and everyone else can help you from there. But until you make that decision for yourself, you can get fucked. If you keep putting off day 1 ("after this can!"), then day 1 never comes. Make the decision right now that you've already had your last dip ever and just start that 72 hours of suck.
Agree ^^^^!
With what you have said I doubt anything will be different than 4 years ago for you. That may seem harsh but to damn bad it's the truth. The past does matter to us Answer three simple questions for me: 1. What was your previous pathetic quit like and what happened. 2. Why didn't you succeed last time? 3. What are you gonna do this time that is different.
Give me a good reason to support you. I don't see it yet. You can't come here and piss on us by posting with a mouth of poison and brag about it.
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Wow. Here's a thought. How about you fuck off with this "I'm quitting dip but here I am dipping in my introduction" nonsense? This place isn't going to help you if you don't actually want to quit. If you want to quit, grow a pair of balls and actually do it and get into the suck. Don't get in here with one of these haphazard, 2:30 AM anxious "i should really stop dipping" posts about how you need to remember how to be pissed at your addiction and so forth.
If you want to stop, stop, and the August guys and I and everyone else can help you from there. But until you make that decision for yourself, you can get fucked. If you keep putting off day 1 ("after this can!"), then day 1 never comes. Make the decision right now that you've already had your last dip ever and just start that 72 hours of suck.
Agree ^^^^!
With what you have said I doubt anything will be different than 4 years ago for you. That may seem harsh but to damn bad it's the truth. The past does matter to us Answer three simple questions for me: 1. What was your previous pathetic quit like and what happened. 2. Why didn't you succeed last time? 3. What are you gonna do this time that is different.
Give me a good reason to support you. I don't see it yet. You can't come here and piss on us by posting with a mouth of poison and brag about it.
You had better get your as back in your old group and beg for forgiveness. You know how this works, if you want support you need to commit to this.
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Bump for merger.
Look how much support you pissed away.
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Same story, hell I'm dippin now typing my intro just like last time...
So... apparently you're the guy that walks into an AA meeting with a bottle of Jack, then proceeds to tell the room, "Boy, I sure need to quit this stuff! Can y'all help me?".
Kick people in the nuts much?
Go away... you're not serious.
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Poof
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Wow. Here's a thought. How about you fuck off with this "I'm quitting dip but here I am dipping in my introduction" nonsense? This place isn't going to help you if you don't actually want to quit. If you want to quit, grow a pair of balls and actually do it and get into the suck. Don't get in here with one of these haphazard, 2:30 AM anxious "i should really stop dipping" posts about how you need to remember how to be pissed at your addiction and so forth.
If you want to stop, stop, and the August guys and I and everyone else can help you from there. But until you make that decision for yourself, you can get fucked. If you keep putting off day 1 ("after this can!"), then day 1 never comes. Make the decision right now that you've already had your last dip ever and just start that 72 hours of suck.
Agree ^^^^!
With what you have said I doubt anything will be different than 4 years ago for you. That may seem harsh but to damn bad it's the truth. The past does matter to us Answer three simple questions for me: 1. What was your previous pathetic quit like and what happened. 2. Why didn't you succeed last time? 3. What are you gonna do this time that is different.
Give me a good reason to support you. I don't see it yet. You can't come here and piss on us by posting with a mouth of poison and brag about it.
You had better get your as back in your old group and beg for forgiveness. You know how this works, if you want support you need to commit to this.
1. It blew goats. But one guy on here called me out and told me I was only trying to shut my wife up called me a puss and dared me to prove him wrong.
2. Stress... brother in law died from an accidental gun shot. Two months later my 5 year old had a fatal seizure. Three months later walked in on my wife fucking her boss. Divorced went to jail after she falsely accused me of domestic violence. Lost my job. Butch destroyed my house my truck and my credit. Packed my shift in a duffle bag and bailed the state. Hung out with my old rodeo buds and here I am. Just caught my new woman in the same shit. Moved on three weeks ago. And im about to lose my dad. Judge me bitch but fill my boots.
3. It's about me this time it's about my boys having a dad. It's about wanting to be able to run and hunt and lift weights fight and not feel like I'm having a heart attack. It's about living without a crutch 'Finger'
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Wow. Here's a thought. How about you fuck off with this "I'm quitting dip but here I am dipping in my introduction" nonsense? This place isn't going to help you if you don't actually want to quit. If you want to quit, grow a pair of balls and actually do it and get into the suck. Don't get in here with one of these haphazard, 2:30 AM anxious "i should really stop dipping" posts about how you need to remember how to be pissed at your addiction and so forth.
If you want to stop, stop, and the August guys and I and everyone else can help you from there. But until you make that decision for yourself, you can get fucked. If you keep putting off day 1 ("after this can!"), then day 1 never comes. Make the decision right now that you've already had your last dip ever and just start that 72 hours of suck.
Agree ^^^^!
With what you have said I doubt anything will be different than 4 years ago for you. That may seem harsh but to damn bad it's the truth. The past does matter to us Answer three simple questions for me: 1. What was your previous pathetic quit like and what happened. 2. Why didn't you succeed last time? 3. What are you gonna do this time that is different.
Give me a good reason to support you. I don't see it yet. You can't come here and piss on us by posting with a mouth of poison and brag about it.
You had better get your as back in your old group and beg for forgiveness. You know how this works, if you want support you need to commit to this.
1. It blew goats. But one guy on here called me out and told me I was only trying to shut my wife up called me a puss and dared me to prove him wrong.
2. Stress... brother in law died from an accidental gun shot. Two months later my 5 year old had a fatal seizure. Three months later walked in on my wife fucking her boss. Divorced went to jail after she falsely accused me of domestic violence. Lost my job. Butch destroyed my house my truck and my credit. Packed my shift in a duffle bag and bailed the state. Hung out with my old rodeo buds and here I am. Just caught my new woman in the same shit. Moved on three weeks ago. And im about to lose my dad. Judge me bitch but fill my boots.
3. It's about me this time it's about my boys having a dad. It's about wanting to be able to run and hunt and lift weights fight and not feel like I'm having a heart attack. It's about living without a crutch 'Finger'
Then Quit and post roll....every fucking day...First Thing in the AM........Make it right with your old group and come clean with your new group......Keep moving forward and take it one day at a time.......you should know how this site works......now make it work for YOU
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Wow. Here's a thought. How about you fuck off with this "I'm quitting dip but here I am dipping in my introduction" nonsense? This place isn't going to help you if you don't actually want to quit. If you want to quit, grow a pair of balls and actually do it and get into the suck. Don't get in here with one of these haphazard, 2:30 AM anxious "i should really stop dipping" posts about how you need to remember how to be pissed at your addiction and so forth.
If you want to stop, stop, and the August guys and I and everyone else can help you from there. But until you make that decision for yourself, you can get fucked. If you keep putting off day 1 ("after this can!"), then day 1 never comes. Make the decision right now that you've already had your last dip ever and just start that 72 hours of suck.
Agree ^^^^!
With what you have said I doubt anything will be different than 4 years ago for you. That may seem harsh but to damn bad it's the truth. The past does matter to us Answer three simple questions for me: 1. What was your previous pathetic quit like and what happened. 2. Why didn't you succeed last time? 3. What are you gonna do this time that is different.
Give me a good reason to support you. I don't see it yet. You can't come here and piss on us by posting with a mouth of poison and brag about it.
You had better get your as back in your old group and beg for forgiveness. You know how this works, if you want support you need to commit to this.
1. It blew goats. But one guy on here called me out and told me I was only trying to shut my wife up called me a puss and dared me to prove him wrong.
2. Stress... brother in law died from an accidental gun shot. Two months later my 5 year old had a fatal seizure. Three months later walked in on my wife fucking her boss. Divorced went to jail after she falsely accused me of domestic violence. Lost my job. Butch destroyed my house my truck and my credit. Packed my shift in a duffle bag and bailed the state. Hung out with my old rodeo buds and here I am. Just caught my new woman in the same shit. Moved on three weeks ago. And im about to lose my dad. Judge me bitch but fill my boots.
3. It's about me this time it's about my boys having a dad. It's about wanting to be able to run and hunt and lift weights fight and not feel like I'm having a heart attack. It's about living without a crutch 'Finger'
Excuses are like assholes...everyone has one and they all stink. Grow the fuck up. Oh, but we should treat you differently because you've had a lot to deal with? Fuck that.
Go back and read the Tom and Jenny Kern story again. Tom went from dipping to dead in 7 months. He endured disfiguring surgery, chemo, and 7 months of hell. He drug his family with him. His daughter was at his feet in the hospital bed pleading "don't go, dad" as he took his last breath. Now his kids have to deal all of the shit life can throw at you without Tom. Now tell us again situation sucks?
Why don't you get in the ring and go toe to toe with the Nic Bitch? Post roll and fight like hell to keep your word. You can do this if you focus on quitting instead of all of the excuse-making.
C'mon...let's do this!!! Quit now and mean it.
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Wow. Here's a thought. How about you fuck off with this "I'm quitting dip but here I am dipping in my introduction" nonsense? This place isn't going to help you if you don't actually want to quit. If you want to quit, grow a pair of balls and actually do it and get into the suck. Don't get in here with one of these haphazard, 2:30 AM anxious "i should really stop dipping" posts about how you need to remember how to be pissed at your addiction and so forth.
If you want to stop, stop, and the August guys and I and everyone else can help you from there. But until you make that decision for yourself, you can get fucked. If you keep putting off day 1 ("after this can!"), then day 1 never comes. Make the decision right now that you've already had your last dip ever and just start that 72 hours of suck.
Agree ^^^^!
With what you have said I doubt anything will be different than 4 years ago for you. That may seem harsh but to damn bad it's the truth. The past does matter to us Answer three simple questions for me: 1. What was your previous pathetic quit like and what happened. 2. Why didn't you succeed last time? 3. What are you gonna do this time that is different.
Give me a good reason to support you. I don't see it yet. You can't come here and piss on us by posting with a mouth of poison and brag about it.
You had better get your as back in your old group and beg for forgiveness. You know how this works, if you want support you need to commit to this.
1. It blew goats. But one guy on here called me out and told me I was only trying to shut my wife up called me a puss and dared me to prove him wrong.
2. Stress... brother in law died from an accidental gun shot. Two months later my 5 year old had a fatal seizure. Three months later walked in on my wife fucking her boss. Divorced went to jail after she falsely accused me of domestic violence. Lost my job. Butch destroyed my house my truck and my credit. Packed my shift in a duffle bag and bailed the state. Hung out with my old rodeo buds and here I am. Just caught my new woman in the same shit. Moved on three weeks ago. And im about to lose my dad. Judge me bitch but fill my boots.
3. It's about me this time it's about my boys having a dad. It's about wanting to be able to run and hunt and lift weights fight and not feel like I'm having a heart attack. It's about living without a crutch 'Finger'
the hypocriay of saying it's about life without a crutch while you are clinging to said crutch blows my mind. Dont fucking post here with a dip in ever again.
Life sucks sometimes. You've had some rough shit go down but so has many others who honored their word and honoroed their lost loved ones by not making them be an excuse to be a dumbass. Man the fuck up or get the fuck out.
Plus fix your answer 3 before you go dropping that shit to your old and new groups. That doesnt sound like a plan at all.
Edit: i merged your intros so everyone can see how this attempt sounds exactly as pathetic as the last one
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Wow. Here's a thought. How about you fuck off with this "I'm quitting dip but here I am dipping in my introduction" nonsense? This place isn't going to help you if you don't actually want to quit. If you want to quit, grow a pair of balls and actually do it and get into the suck. Don't get in here with one of these haphazard, 2:30 AM anxious "i should really stop dipping" posts about how you need to remember how to be pissed at your addiction and so forth.
If you want to stop, stop, and the August guys and I and everyone else can help you from there. But until you make that decision for yourself, you can get fucked. If you keep putting off day 1 ("after this can!"), then day 1 never comes. Make the decision right now that you've already had your last dip ever and just start that 72 hours of suck.
Agree ^^^^!
With what you have said I doubt anything will be different than 4 years ago for you. That may seem harsh but to damn bad it's the truth. The past does matter to us Answer three simple questions for me: 1. What was your previous pathetic quit like and what happened. 2. Why didn't you succeed last time? 3. What are you gonna do this time that is different.
Give me a good reason to support you. I don't see it yet. You can't come here and piss on us by posting with a mouth of poison and brag about it.
You had better get your as back in your old group and beg for forgiveness. You know how this works, if you want support you need to commit to this.
1. It blew goats. But one guy on here called me out and told me I was only trying to shut my wife up called me a puss and dared me to prove him wrong.
2. Stress... brother in law died from an accidental gun shot. Two months later my 5 year old had a fatal seizure. Three months later walked in on my wife fucking her boss. Divorced went to jail after she falsely accused me of domestic violence. Lost my job. Butch destroyed my house my truck and my credit. Packed my shift in a duffle bag and bailed the state. Hung out with my old rodeo buds and here I am. Just caught my new woman in the same shit. Moved on three weeks ago. And im about to lose my dad. Judge me bitch but fill my boots.
3. It's about me this time it's about my boys having a dad. It's about wanting to be able to run and hunt and lift weights fight and not feel like I'm having a heart attack. It's about living without a crutch 'Finger'
the hypocriay of saying it's about life without a crutch while you are clinging to said crutch blows my mind. Dont fucking post here with a dip in ever again.
Life sucks sometimes. You've had some rough shit go down but so has many others who honored their word and honoroed their lost loved ones by not making them be an excuse to be a dumbass. Man the fuck up or get the fuck out.
Plus fix your answer 3 before you go dropping that shit to your old and new groups. That doesnt sound like a plan at all.
Edit: i merged your intros so everyone can see how this attempt sounds exactly as pathetic as the last one
It's so damn easy to say that life is hard. Call me what you want that's why I'm here I enjoy the fact that you are all pricks. So moving forward I am dumping the shit down the toilet and posting up. Go ahead think I'm a pussy that isn't motivated and all the other bullshit you all say it just makes me want to be quit that much more. I don't gotta read about someone dying for motivation... my uncle died on the table awake in his final surgery from this already missing his jaw and his tongue. I know the pain it causes I live it. You say yeah then why are you here? Same as the rest of you pricks.... I'm an addict but now I'm addicted to being done and kicking it's ass. I don't need your approval to be here anymore than you need mine.
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Guys, he actually doesn't know how this works. Look at his post history. He didn't make it very far last time. Even then he would miss a couple days.
Matt. Here is the deal. You have to want it. The fact that you came here with a dip in makes that hard to believe. Quitting isn't as easy as saying I'm done. It's a fight. It's a struggle. One that is well worth it. Flush that shit right now. Drag your sorry ass to August. Post your day 1. Answer the 3 questions that Wt gave you in both your old group and the new one (Do not copy and paste them).
The only way this works is if people can take you for your word. You will have to build some trust and accountability. It is a long and bumpy road. I will support you if you are serious. But if you aren't serious about quitting, nicotine will crawl back in.
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Wow. Here's a thought. How about you fuck off with this "I'm quitting dip but here I am dipping in my introduction" nonsense? This place isn't going to help you if you don't actually want to quit. If you want to quit, grow a pair of balls and actually do it and get into the suck. Don't get in here with one of these haphazard, 2:30 AM anxious "i should really stop dipping" posts about how you need to remember how to be pissed at your addiction and so forth.
If you want to stop, stop, and the August guys and I and everyone else can help you from there. But until you make that decision for yourself, you can get fucked. If you keep putting off day 1 ("after this can!"), then day 1 never comes. Make the decision right now that you've already had your last dip ever and just start that 72 hours of suck.
Agree ^^^^!
With what you have said I doubt anything will be different than 4 years ago for you. That may seem harsh but to damn bad it's the truth. The past does matter to us Answer three simple questions for me: 1. What was your previous pathetic quit like and what happened. 2. Why didn't you succeed last time? 3. What are you gonna do this time that is different.
Give me a good reason to support you. I don't see it yet. You can't come here and piss on us by posting with a mouth of poison and brag about it.
You had better get your as back in your old group and beg for forgiveness. You know how this works, if you want support you need to commit to this.
1. It blew goats. But one guy on here called me out and told me I was only trying to shut my wife up called me a puss and dared me to prove him wrong.
2. Stress... brother in law died from an accidental gun shot. Two months later my 5 year old had a fatal seizure. Three months later walked in on my wife fucking her boss. Divorced went to jail after she falsely accused me of domestic violence. Lost my job. Butch destroyed my house my truck and my credit. Packed my shift in a duffle bag and bailed the state. Hung out with my old rodeo buds and here I am. Just caught my new woman in the same shit. Moved on three weeks ago. And im about to lose my dad. Judge me bitch but fill my boots.
3. It's about me this time it's about my boys having a dad. It's about wanting to be able to run and hunt and lift weights fight and not feel like I'm having a heart attack. It's about living without a crutch 'Finger'
the hypocriay of saying it's about life without a crutch while you are clinging to said crutch blows my mind. Dont fucking post here with a dip in ever again.
Life sucks sometimes. You've had some rough shit go down but so has many others who honored their word and honoroed their lost loved ones by not making them be an excuse to be a dumbass. Man the fuck up or get the fuck out.
Plus fix your answer 3 before you go dropping that shit to your old and new groups. That doesnt sound like a plan at all.
Edit: i merged your intros so everyone can see how this attempt sounds exactly as pathetic as the last one
It's so damn easy to say that life is hard. Call me what you want that's why I'm here I enjoy the fact that you are all pricks. So moving forward I am dumping the shit down the toilet and posting up. Go ahead think I'm a pussy that isn't motivated and all the other bullshit you all say it just makes me want to be quit that much more. I don't gotta read about someone dying for motivation... my uncle died on the table awake in his final surgery from this already missing his jaw and his tongue. I know the pain it causes I live it. You say yeah then why are you here? Same as the rest of you pricks.... I'm an addict but now I'm addicted to being done and kicking it's ass. I don't need your approval to be here anymore than you need mine.
This site isn't about approval. It is about living free. You have to earn freedom. And you can't earn it by telling us about how hard your life has been WITH A DIP IN YOUR MOUTH?!!!
Click around in the Quit Groups. Every last one of those names is someone who as committed to living nic free. And they are fighting each day to keep their commitment to one another. Wonder why they aren't pumped about you writing you intro with a fucking dip in your face? Weird, huh?
You know what you have to do. Spit the dip out, flush the rest of your shit, quit making excuses and post roll. Save the "approval" and "prick" talk for some other site. All we want to hear is that you are quit. Your rage tells me that you're doing right. So, congrats. Stay strong and stay quit!!!
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It's so damn easy to say that life is hard. Call me what you want that's why I'm here I enjoy the fact that you are all pricks. So moving forward I am dumping the shit down the toilet and posting up. Go ahead think I'm a pussy that isn't motivated and all the other bullshit you all say it just makes me want to be quit that much more. I don't gotta read about someone dying for motivation... my uncle died on the table awake in his final surgery from this already missing his jaw and his tongue. I know the pain it causes I live it. You say yeah then why are you here? Same as the rest of you pricks.... I'm an addict but now I'm addicted to being done and kicking it's ass. I don't need your approval to be here anymore than you need mine.
Addicted to being done, huh? When was your last dip? Better yet, when is your next dip?
Until you post roll I'm not buying a single word of what your selling.
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I don't see anything that tells me that your serious. I will quit with you when you prove that you are serious. I've been quit long enough and seen enough addict come and go to feel fairly confident in judging the future of a quit. Prove all those that are ripping into you wrong. This ought to be interesting. 'Popcorn'
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I read this whole thread.
I'm on Day 12 myself, honestly I still want to chew, but that's because I'm addicted. That's what you are. Nothing more that I would love to do right now, than throw in a dip. I never want to relive the last 12 days, I want to live longer, and I don't want my actions to show my son that this is ok. I saw that you talked about being there for your kids, and previously you said you want to quit for yourself. This sounds a lot like my reasoning. Unfortunately reasons, and promises and don't mean a thing as you are an addict.
Don't chew today, just today. Post Roll and follow the steps. Wake up tomorrow and do it again, one day at a time.
I hope you make the right decision.
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I read this whole thread.
I'm on Day 12 myself, honestly I still want to chew, but that's because I'm addicted. That's what you are. Nothing more that I would love to do right now, than throw in a dip. I never want to relive the last 12 days, I want to live longer, and I don't want my actions to show my son that this is ok. I saw that you talked about being there for your kids, and previously you said you want to quit for yourself. This sounds a lot like my reasoning. Unfortunately reasons, and promises and don't mean a thing as you are an addict.
Don't chew today, just today. Post Roll and follow the steps. Wake up tomorrow and do it again, one day at a time.
I hope you make the right decision.
Moose, you need to understand that nicotine has never done one good thing for you, me, or any single person alive. Your statement should have said:There is nothing more that i would love to do but have a big fat glass of quit koolaid. Oh, and fuck nicotine
Time will tell if this guy ever puts his big girl panties on and posts up that he is quit, but i know you posted, so you are worth correcting. Hate nicotine for all the time, money, health, it stole from you. Do not romanticize it.
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Back to Matt and waiting to see if he values his life. Having seen any roll posts. Maybe he's done for now and he'll pop back by for a bit in 2019. Hey guys, I'm 38 now...
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Dipping while posting here. Jesus H Christ. If you ever post roll again, you sure as shit had better do it clean and keep it that way. We'll put up with a fair amount of bullshit here, but a bald lack of integrity isn't one of them.
You've seen your share of shit. Most all of us have to some degree. That's still no excuse to dip yesterday, today, or tomorrow. Exactly many problems did you solve by going back to a can anyway?
Besides, all that stuff that happened before, those are yesterday's problems. It sucks, but you can't do a damn thing about it. Today's problem is that you are a slave to a can and you have been for most of your life. That's a big fucking problem in my book.
What are you going to do about it? Stop in here every 3 or 4 years to kindly let us know that you're still fingering a can of peach skoal while you drink a rootbeer float? Or, are you going say enough to all of that bullshit, quit now, and do whatever it takes to stay that way?
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This is really simple. I will quote Sco here:
1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems
Your life went to hell? Suck it up, buttercup. We have members here who have cancer and are posting roll. Instead, you come back to your old intro with a fucking fatty in and start preaching about how you need to quit, to a bunch of people who are doing it.
We'll call you every name in the book, but until you get your head unshoved up your ass, nothing we say will matter. You are a waste of time if you think you can solve the above equation with anything other than death or cancer.
So...are you in or not? It's a yes or no question.
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*sigh*
Back in the day, JMR said it way better than I ever could... so I'll just leave this here.
Throwing Away A Long Term Quit
http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures ... term-quit/ (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/throwing-away-a-long-term-quit/)
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I read this whole thread.
I'm on Day 12 myself, honestly I still want to chew, but that's because I'm addicted. That's what you are. Nothing more that I would love to do right now, than throw in a dip. I never want to relive the last 12 days, I want to live longer, and I don't want my actions to show my son that this is ok. I saw that you talked about being there for your kids, and previously you said you want to quit for yourself. This sounds a lot like my reasoning. Unfortunately reasons, and promises and don't mean a thing as you are an addict.
Don't chew today, just today. Post Roll and follow the steps. Wake up tomorrow and do it again, one day at a time.
I hope you make the right decision.
Moose, you need to understand that nicotine has never done one good thing for you, me, or any single person alive. Your statement should have said:There is nothing more that i would love to do but have a big fat glass of quit koolaid. Oh, and fuck nicotine
Time will tell if this guy ever puts his big girl panties on and posts up that he is quit, but i know you posted, so you are worth correcting. Hate nicotine for all the time, money, health, it stole from you. Do not romanticize it.
Well everyone's view on addiction is different, and how they handle it as well.
As I said, I read the whole thread and this guy didn't like the whole fuck you and your girlfriend approach. So I threw in a little honesty and real. My statement and views don't need a "correction", by thanks for taking the time to see if they did. I was hardly romanticizing tobacco, and I have the attitude and view that I did this to my self and that I need to quit. Nicotine and tobacco do not have a hold on me, I control my life, I no longer will be chewing. I don't think that someone else's thread is the place to be focusing in on others views. So I'll leave it at that.
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I read this whole thread.
I'm on Day 12 myself, honestly I still want to chew, but that's because I'm addicted. That's what you are. Nothing more that I would love to do right now, than throw in a dip. I never want to relive the last 12 days, I want to live longer, and I don't want my actions to show my son that this is ok. I saw that you talked about being there for your kids, and previously you said you want to quit for yourself. This sounds a lot like my reasoning. Unfortunately reasons, and promises and don't mean a thing as you are an addict.
Don't chew today, just today. Post Roll and follow the steps. Wake up tomorrow and do it again, one day at a time.
I hope you make the right decision.
Moose, you need to understand that nicotine has never done one good thing for you, me, or any single person alive. Your statement should have said:There is nothing more that i would love to do but have a big fat glass of quit koolaid. Oh, and fuck nicotine
Time will tell if this guy ever puts his big girl panties on and posts up that he is quit, but i know you posted, so you are worth correcting. Hate nicotine for all the time, money, health, it stole from you. Do not romanticize it.
Well everyone's view on addiction is different, and how they handle it as well.
As I said, I read the whole thread and this guy didn't like the whole fuck you and your girlfriend approach. So I threw in a little honesty and real. My statement and views don't need a "correction", by thanks for taking the time to see if they did. I was hardly romanticizing tobacco, and I have the attitude and view that I did this to my self and that I need to quit. Nicotine and tobacco do not have a hold on me, I control my life, I no longer will be chewing. I don't think that someone else's thread is the place to be focusing in on others views. So I'll leave it at that.
. Nothing more that I would love to do right now, than throw in a dip.
^^^ romanticizing dip. It's over. Glad you are quit moose.
Matt, i saw you lurk in august, you ready to throw that shit out or are you going to throw in a few more pinches first? I sure hope that pinch you throw in today isnt the one that begins to metastasize your saliva gland cells into cancer.
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Thanks to everyone who has shown some support. Yes I had every intention of posting up today. And yes I caved after 12 hours.
I don't get it... last time I got so pissed at this shit and I just threw it away and walked away. Weathered a few struggles but my anger just kept me going. I admit i started smoking weed for a while and that made it easier...but i really was done for a long time even when i missed roll call.
This time I want to quit but it seems harder... I can't focus. I can't seem to get pissed off at it enough... I guess that's like saying I can't seem to find a way to value life which is stupid. I've met someone new that wants me to quit and supports me but she doesn't understand it because she's way innocent and never faced addiction. I know I can do this I just need to find something that resonates with me... last time I did this I posted an introduction and thought no one would do or say shit to me... the next day syndrome replied and hit the nail on the head and I was blown away.... I threw it down and was done. I'm frustrated as hell here.
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Thanks to everyone who has shown some support. Yes I had every intention of posting up today. And yes I caved after 12 hours.
I don't get it... last time I got so pissed at this shit and I just threw it away and walked away. Weathered a few struggles but my anger just kept me going. I admit i started smoking weed for a while and that made it easier...but i really was done for a long time even when i missed roll call.
This time I want to quit but it seems harder... I can't focus. I can't seem to get pissed off at it enough... I guess that's like saying I can't seem to find a way to value life which is stupid. I've met someone new that wants me to quit and supports me but she doesn't understand it because she's way innocent and never faced addiction. I know I can do this I just need to find something that resonates with me... last time I did this I posted an introduction and thought no one would do or say shit to me... the next day syndrome replied and hit the nail on the head and I was blown away.... I threw it down and was done. I'm frustrated as hell here.
The only way to quit is to STOP PUTTING THAT SHIT IN YOUR MOUTH!
Being quit doesn't depend on whether we feel like it today. It's about making a promise and carrying that promise through whatever the day brings. Don't feel like being quit, not pissed enough today? TOO FUCKING BAD, YOU MADE A PROMISE!
Balls and Integrity are what it takes to be quit. Do you have either one?
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Thanks to everyone who has shown some support. Yes I had every intention of posting up today. And yes I caved after 12 hours.
I don't get it... last time I got so pissed at this shit and I just threw it away and walked away. Weathered a few struggles but my anger just kept me going. I admit i started smoking weed for a while and that made it easier...but i really was done for a long time even when i missed roll call.
This time I want to quit but it seems harder... I can't focus. I can't seem to get pissed off at it enough... I guess that's like saying I can't seem to find a way to value life which is stupid. I've met someone new that wants me to quit and supports me but she doesn't understand it because she's way innocent and never faced addiction. I know I can do this I just need to find something that resonates with me... last time I did this I posted an introduction and thought no one would do or say shit to me... the next day syndrome replied and hit the nail on the head and I was blown away.... I threw it down and was done. I'm frustrated as hell here.
The only way to quit is to STOP PUTTING THAT SHIT IN YOUR MOUTH!
Being quit doesn't depend on whether we feel like it today. It's about making a promise and carrying that promise through whatever the day brings. Don't feel like being quit, not pissed enough today? TOO FUCKING BAD, YOU MADE A PROMISE!
Balls and Integrity are what it takes to be quit. Do you have either one?
Yeah I have em. Why you think I didn't post up.
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Thanks to everyone who has shown some support. Yes I had every intention of posting up today. And yes I caved after 12 hours.
I don't get it... last time I got so pissed at this shit and I just threw it away and walked away. Weathered a few struggles but my anger just kept me going. I admit i started smoking weed for a while and that made it easier...but i really was done for a long time even when i missed roll call.
This time I want to quit but it seems harder... I can't focus. I can't seem to get pissed off at it enough... I guess that's like saying I can't seem to find a way to value life which is stupid. I've met someone new that wants me to quit and supports me but she doesn't understand it because she's way innocent and never faced addiction. I know I can do this I just need to find something that resonates with me... last time I did this I posted an introduction and thought no one would do or say shit to me... the next day syndrome replied and hit the nail on the head and I was blown away.... I threw it down and was done. I'm frustrated as hell here.
The only way to quit is to STOP PUTTING THAT SHIT IN YOUR MOUTH!
Being quit doesn't depend on whether we feel like it today. It's about making a promise and carrying that promise through whatever the day brings. Don't feel like being quit, not pissed enough today? TOO FUCKING BAD, YOU MADE A PROMISE!
Balls and Integrity are what it takes to be quit. Do you have either one?
Yeah I have em. Why you think I didn't post up.
It doesn't take balls to cave, numb nuts. It takes balls to quit. You don't get it. If you don't want to quit, we can't help you.
Someone new ain't gonna make you quit.
Do YOU want to quit? If so, why do YOU want to quit? What are YOU willing to do to be quit?
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Thanks to everyone who has shown some support. Yes I had every intention of posting up today. And yes I caved after 12 hours.
I don't get it... last time I got so pissed at this shit and I just threw it away and walked away. Weathered a few struggles but my anger just kept me going. I admit i started smoking weed for a while and that made it easier...but i really was done for a long time even when i missed roll call.
This time I want to quit but it seems harder... I can't focus. I can't seem to get pissed off at it enough... I guess that's like saying I can't seem to find a way to value life which is stupid. I've met someone new that wants me to quit and supports me but she doesn't understand it because she's way innocent and never faced addiction. I know I can do this I just need to find something that resonates with me... last time I did this I posted an introduction and thought no one would do or say shit to me... the next day syndrome replied and hit the nail on the head and I was blown away.... I threw it down and was done. I'm frustrated as hell here.
The only way to quit is to STOP PUTTING THAT SHIT IN YOUR MOUTH!
Being quit doesn't depend on whether we feel like it today. It's about making a promise and carrying that promise through whatever the day brings. Don't feel like being quit, not pissed enough today? TOO FUCKING BAD, YOU MADE A PROMISE!
Balls and Integrity are what it takes to be quit. Do you have either one?
Yeah I have em. Why you think I didn't post up.
It doesn't take balls to cave, numb nuts. It takes balls to quit. You don't get it. If you don't want to quit, we can't help you.
Someone new ain't gonna make you quit.
Do YOU want to quit? If so, why do YOU want to quit? What are YOU willing to do to be quit?
topic/1006161/1/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1006161/1/#new)
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Thanks to everyone who has shown some support. Yes I had every intention of posting up today. And yes I caved after 12 hours.
I don't get it... last time I got so pissed at this shit and I just threw it away and walked away. Weathered a few struggles but my anger just kept me going. I admit i started smoking weed for a while and that made it easier...but i really was done for a long time even when i missed roll call.
This time I want to quit but it seems harder... I can't focus. I can't seem to get pissed off at it enough... I guess that's like saying I can't seem to find a way to value life which is stupid. I've met someone new that wants me to quit and supports me but she doesn't understand it because she's way innocent and never faced addiction. I know I can do this I just need to find something that resonates with me... last time I did this I posted an introduction and thought no one would do or say shit to me... the next day syndrome replied and hit the nail on the head and I was blown away.... I threw it down and was done. I'm frustrated as hell here.
The only way to quit is to STOP PUTTING THAT SHIT IN YOUR MOUTH!
Being quit doesn't depend on whether we feel like it today. It's about making a promise and carrying that promise through whatever the day brings. Don't feel like being quit, not pissed enough today? TOO FUCKING BAD, YOU MADE A PROMISE!
Balls and Integrity are what it takes to be quit. Do you have either one?
Yeah I have em. Why you think I didn't post up.
It doesn't take balls to cave, numb nuts. It takes balls to quit. You don't get it. If you don't want to quit, we can't help you.
Someone new ain't gonna make you quit.
Do YOU want to quit? If so, why do YOU want to quit? What are YOU willing to do to be quit?
topic/1006161/1/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1006161/1/#new)
Not so deep down, you know you need to quit. It's not exactly a logical reach to conclude that, either. Hell, it sounds like you got to watch a relative lose the southern half of his face to this awful plant. Yet, you are still stuffing your face. Every marker, every indicator has been demonstrated to you firsthand why dipping is such a monumentally bad idea. Yet, here you are. Still stuffing your face.
Addiction is a fucking bitch.
You can give yourself all of the pep talks in the world, psych yourself up, and get super fucking pissed at nicotine. All of it will be like trying to stop a freight train with a BB gun unless you know down in the depths of your soul that you are done. Truly done.
That's not to say every day thereafter will be easy, but you will at least know no other alternative to being Quit in your own mind.
My advice would be to hurry up and get done. Before it's too late, hopefully. Until then, you're wasting your time by doing all of this wanting, wishing, and hoping. All with a cat shit in your face, no less.
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Thanks to everyone who has shown some support. Yes I had every intention of posting up today. And yes I caved after 12 hours.
I don't get it... last time I got so pissed at this shit and I just threw it away and walked away. Weathered a few struggles but my anger just kept me going. I admit i started smoking weed for a while and that made it easier...but i really was done for a long time even when i missed roll call.
This time I want to quit but it seems harder... I can't focus. I can't seem to get pissed off at it enough... I guess that's like saying I can't seem to find a way to value life which is stupid. I've met someone new that wants me to quit and supports me but she doesn't understand it because she's way innocent and never faced addiction. I know I can do this I just need to find something that resonates with me... last time I did this I posted an introduction and thought no one would do or say shit to me... the next day syndrome replied and hit the nail on the head and I was blown away.... I threw it down and was done. I'm frustrated as hell here.
The only way to quit is to STOP PUTTING THAT SHIT IN YOUR MOUTH!
Being quit doesn't depend on whether we feel like it today. It's about making a promise and carrying that promise through whatever the day brings. Don't feel like being quit, not pissed enough today? TOO FUCKING BAD, YOU MADE A PROMISE!
Balls and Integrity are what it takes to be quit. Do you have either one?
Yeah I have em. Why you think I didn't post up.
It doesn't take balls to cave, numb nuts. It takes balls to quit. You don't get it. If you don't want to quit, we can't help you.
Someone new ain't gonna make you quit.
Do YOU want to quit? If so, why do YOU want to quit? What are YOU willing to do to be quit?
topic/1006161/1/#new (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1006161/1/#new)
Not so deep down, you know you need to quit. It's not exactly a logical reach to conclude that, either. Hell, it sounds like you got to watch a relative lose the southern half of his face to this awful plant. Yet, you are still stuffing your face. Every marker, every indicator has been demonstrated to you firsthand why dipping is such a monumentally bad idea. Yet, here you are. Still stuffing your face.
Addiction is a fucking bitch.
You can give yourself all of the pep talks in the world, psych yourself up, and get super fucking pissed at nicotine. All of it will be like trying to stop a freight train with a BB gun unless you know down in the depths of your soul that you are done. Truly done.
That's not to say every day thereafter will be easy, but you will at least know no other alternative to being Quit in your own mind.
My advice would be to hurry up and get done. Before it's too late, hopefully. Until then, you're wasting your time by doing all of this wanting, wishing, and hoping. All with a cat shit in your face, no less.
Do or Do Not there is No Try.
Have you met the addict in the mirror?
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I know I can do this I just need to find something that resonates with me
I'm a addict, a drug addict! Does that resonate?
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I know I can do this I just need to find something that resonates with me
I'm a addict, a drug addict! Does that resonate?
He keeps checking in, but not posting his word to quit. Until he's ready to quit, we're just wasting our time.
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I know I can do this I just need to find something that resonates with me
I'm a addict, a drug addict! Does that resonate?
He keeps checking in, but not posting his word to quit. Until he's ready to quit, we're just wasting our time.
Things on which to ruminate while you resonate.
This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDFNqOuZ3II), or this (start from bottom, read up) (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1008859/1/?x=90#new), or maybe this. (https://www.google.com/search?q=squamous+cell+carcinoma+mouth+pictures&biw=1366&bih=657&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=7fhHVZL7J5DRoASyrYCICA&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ#tbm=isch&q=throat+cancer+from+dipping)
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Matt,
Rage doesn't get you quit! Rage can help you with your quit but it doesn't get you or keep you quit. Your inner will, fortitude and desire to win is what will get you and keep you quit. I am 531 days quit today and I still get cravings for a dip. Sometimes they are daily for a week. What keeps me quit is my desire and will power to say FU nicotine, I will not ever come back. Obviously stomping the cravings get easier with time under your belt, but you still have to have a plan to win. Mine is KTC! Now rage can help you for sure but don't rely on it forever. Rage and passion fade with time, resolve and will and inner desire is what keeps you on the path of nicotine freedom. This is a war that will never end, the key is winning the daily battles to remain free from your addiction. You will never be free from the war because you are an addict, none of us will ever have that pleasure but we did it to ourselves. I would also suggest that you don't use another mind altering addictive drug to quit the one you are currently trying to quit. Its kind of like robbing Peter to pay Paul, eventually the devil comes looking for payment. Balls in your court sweetheart!
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Another Fart in the Wind........guess he didn't have enough RAGE this time around...........
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I know I can do this I just need to find something that resonates with me
I'm a addict, a drug addict! Does that resonate?
He keeps checking in, but not posting his word to quit. Until he's ready to quit, we're just wasting our time.
Things on which to ruminate while you resonate.
This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDFNqOuZ3II), or this (start from bottom, read up) (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1008859/1/?x=90#new), or maybe this. (https://www.google.com/search?q=squamous+cell+carcinoma+mouth+pictures&biw=1366&bih=657&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=7fhHVZL7J5DRoASyrYCICA&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ#tbm=isch&q=throat+cancer+from+dipping)
Matt, did you read these links Done4 put up here?!!!!!!!!! I wish you were ready to quit. Don't wait till its too late.
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I know I can do this I just need to find something that resonates with me
I'm a addict, a drug addict! Does that resonate?
He keeps checking in, but not posting his word to quit. Until he's ready to quit, we're just wasting our time.
Things on which to ruminate while you resonate.
This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDFNqOuZ3II), or this (start from bottom, read up) (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1008859/1/?x=90#new), or maybe this. (https://www.google.com/search?q=squamous+cell+carcinoma+mouth+pictures&biw=1366&bih=657&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ei=7fhHVZL7J5DRoASyrYCICA&ved=0CAYQ_AUoAQ#tbm=isch&q=throat+cancer+from+dipping)
Matt, did you read these links Done4 put up here?!!!!!!!!! I wish you were ready to quit. Don't wait till its too late.
Don't worry about it. If you don't quit, the poison will Quit you early. Is that what you're waiting for?
Your choice. Your life.
Do or Do Not, there is No TRY.
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35 years old and have been making excuses for the nic bitch for too many years. Last "quit" was due to a scare from having to see an oral surgeon, lasted to the day I got the results that there was no issues requiring surgery (yet), and back at it I went because "I had to try the new Copenhagen Mint". All bull shit aside I gotta get my shit together and be done for good. Best of luck to everyone with their quit, I'm sure my cry baby story about quitting isn't much different from anyone else's other than I failed when I had been quit for years. Because I believed that somehow putting a pile of shit in my mouth would cure my problems. So I'm back facing day one.
Don't know if any of the guys I used to talk to are still on here from years ago, if so many apologies for my failure.
I'm sure a bunch of hard asses are going to read through my past posts and I'm going to hear all sorts of shit about being a pussy and all the I'm not for real because I caved. Don't really care though, that was yesterday and I'm only interested in today. I just want to be done with this part of my life and move on so here I am. If that ends up being you looking up my past posts to shame me, thanks ahead of time but I'm all out of medals for pointing out my failures, I gave the last one to my girlfriend.
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Hey chief, welcome back.
I was in the same boat as you man. I came here some time ago and lasted all of 4 or 5 days. I ended up in the hospital and the cravings sucked so bad I gave in and had a patch. Plain and simple, I pussed out. I had tools but refused to use them. It was all about me at the time. I came back and jumped in both feet first and running. best thing I have ever done. Once I gave in to the system and saw the ways of it, it just worked and continues to work daily for me. I don't worry about weeks or days, just one day at a time. I can't control yesterday or tomorrow but today is my day!
And you are right, you are going to catch some hell. I know I did. MAN did I catch hell and rightfully so. These folks put time and effort in to me for a few 4 or 5 days and I let them down. Obviously they were pissed at me and rightfully so then had to earn respect of my new group.
I know it is going to suck, but you really have to find your old quit group and answer the 3 questions:
What happened?
Why did it happen?
What are you going to do different this time?
Then you need to find your new quit group and answer there as well. Think them out. There is really only one answer to give but to each their own. Head on over to October 16 and post your day 1 and do your thing man. If you need any help or anything, I am here. Send me a PM or email. Id give my number but the phone company needed more cash than I had in my account this month. Thanks hackers!
Most important, if you have anything at all laying around, get rid of it. Ash trays, tins empty or full dump and rinse cans. Soak what you dump with vinegar or something. Any patches, vapes, lozenges, gum all that loose it if you have it.
I look forward to seeing you on roll. I quit with you today!
Ray - 302
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Hey matt
I'm a new guy here. But I've spent the last 30 years attempting to quit and I've had more than my share at failure and caving. I defiantly know all about those excuses for caving. I think I invented most of them!
I don't know how involved you where here when you were here last but what I've seen in the short time that I've been here is that your success in quitting and staying quit depends on your willingness get involved and give 110% to this site.
I don't have all the answers but it appears to me that those who are successful here post their promise 1st thing in the morning, keep that promise one day at a time as well as give back to other quitters and build accountablity. It appears those most successful are those who are willing to trade phone numbers and use those phone numbers when cravings get tough. Those who stay quit here seem to be the ones who realize there's no finish line to this race. There's no 100 day cure. Most of the people who come back here after being away from this site say the same thing. "I thought I had this beat. I stopped posting roll"
Congrats on the decision to come back and regain control of your life.
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The first step to beating any problem is admitting the problem. It can be hard, it was for me. Honestly, I am realizing each day quit is bringing new challenges and change into my life. So far, excluding the withdrawal symptoms, everything has been for the better.
I am one of the October 16 BAQ's, join me in quit today. Post roll early everyday. Reach out to the old and new brothers, and actually utilize them! Tons of Wisdom to be had.
With all that being said, you need to answer the 3 questions. Not for me or anyone else, but for yourself and your quit. After all, it's your quit and no one else's. OWN YOUR QUIT!!
Brown -DAY 10
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35 years old and have been making excuses for the nic bitch for too many years. Last "quit" was due to a scare from having to see an oral surgeon, lasted to the day I got the results that there was no issues requiring surgery (yet), and back at it I went because "I had to try the new Copenhagen Mint". All bull shit aside I gotta get my shit together and be done for good.
What happened to posting roll and you're enthusiasm to quit? More excuses? Did Cope come out with a new flavor?
Seriously though brother, jump in here and post roll. Let's get this party started! It's only your life at stake.
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Hey Matt....
Guess you didn't get the memo... LIMIT ONE INTRODUCTION PER CUSTOMER.
Also, this is a site for QUITTERS, not for STOPPERS. You want to STOP for awhile, go your arse away. You want to QUIT, answer the three questions (in EVERY QUIT GROUP YOU'VE BEEN A PART OF, GOING BACK TO AUGUST 2011).... Then prove you're a man of your word. Honor your post by not shoving crap in your lip, and then do it again tomorrow. That's how quits are built. Not the way you've been playing the game to date, matt....
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Hey Matt....
Guess you didn't get the memo... LIMIT ONE INTRODUCTION PER CUSTOMER.
Also, this is a site for QUITTERS, not for STOPPERS. You want to STOP for awhile, go your arse away. You want to QUIT, answer the three questions (in EVERY QUIT GROUP YOU'VE BEEN A PART OF, GOING BACK TO AUGUST 2011).... Then prove you're a man of your word. Honor your post by not shoving crap in your lip, and then do it again tomorrow. That's how quits are built. Not the way you've been playing the game to date, matt....
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So I give you all my word on my uncle Eltons grave I am done.
Guess your uncle Elton didn't mean a whole lot to you....
Just sayin'.....
'bang head'
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Hey Matt....
Guess you didn't get the memo... LIMIT ONE INTRODUCTION PER CUSTOMER.
Also, this is a site for QUITTERS, not for STOPPERS. You want to STOP for awhile, go your arse away. You want to QUIT, answer the three questions (in EVERY QUIT GROUP YOU'VE BEEN A PART OF, GOING BACK TO AUGUST 2011).... Then prove you're a man of your word. Honor your post by not shoving crap in your lip, and then do it again tomorrow. That's how quits are built. Not the way you've been playing the game to date, matt....
Answering the 3 questions to every month he has joined would take forever. It's like 5 or 6 I think.
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Hey Matt....
Guess you didn't get the memo... LIMIT ONE INTRODUCTION PER CUSTOMER.
Also, this is a site for QUITTERS, not for STOPPERS. You want to STOP for awhile, go your arse away. You want to QUIT, answer the three questions (in EVERY QUIT GROUP YOU'VE BEEN A PART OF, GOING BACK TO AUGUST 2011).... Then prove you're a man of your word. Honor your post by not shoving crap in your lip, and then do it again tomorrow. That's how quits are built. Not the way you've been playing the game to date, matt....
Answering the 3 questions to every month he has joined would take forever. It's like 5 or 6 I think.
Oh, hell no.
GTFO and stay out. 5 or 6 times? Seriously?
Unacceptable.
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Man you were just here yesterday and never posted a roll. What the fuck man? Get with the program or get the fuck out. Your call. I took time out of my day to post support for you as others were viewing an NOT replying and you couldn't even post a god damn roll? (totally not throwing non repliers under the bus sorry fellas... you obviously knew more than I did)
Take a drink of the fucking Kool aid man and get used to the new flavor. that new flavor is call QUIT LIKE A MOTHER FUCKER! It tastes pretty fucking good to me.
Did ya cave again after that post? Or did you post that post with a big old lip full of fucking cat shit and disrespect every one of us BAQ's on site?
I'm going to shut up now. It's just not worth my time any more. if you want support, get in here and go answer your questions to all your groups and get on roll. If not, go away. Quit wasting everyone's time that could be put to other support elsewhere.
Either way, I wish you nothing but the best.
C-ya!
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Apparently this is intro number one and I just replied to intro number 2 a second ago. I'm not wasting one more minute of my time on this guy until he proves he wants it. He is a waste of our time.
Now if any of you BAQ's ever need anything, hit me up! I'm here for you all.
Take care! Ray - 303
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We don't allow two different intro's I've combined the two. Time to sack up and quit you're no longer new to this site you know how it works....
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This Intro is a case study in how to be a failure.
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Matt,
Saw you posted a Day 1 (again)......and royally screwed up October's roll in the process....
How about before you do ANYTHING ELSE, you re-read the past few entries in your intro and figure out if you're serious about quitting. Then answer the questions in all of the groups you have shat on in the past.
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Hey Matt....
Guess you didn't get the memo... LIMIT ONE INTRODUCTION PER CUSTOMER.
Also, this is a site for QUITTERS, not for STOPPERS. You want to STOP for awhile, go your arse away. You want to QUIT, answer the three questions (in EVERY QUIT GROUP YOU'VE BEEN A PART OF, GOING BACK TO AUGUST 2011).... Then prove you're a man of your word. Honor your post by not shoving crap in your lip, and then do it again tomorrow. That's how quits are built. Not the way you've been playing the game to date, matt....
Answering the 3 questions to every month he has joined would take forever. It's like 5 or 6 I think.
Apparently I didn't get the memo and apparently you can't count.
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Hey Matt....
Guess you didn't get the memo... LIMIT ONE INTRODUCTION PER CUSTOMER.
Also, this is a site for QUITTERS, not for STOPPERS. You want to STOP for awhile, go your arse away. You want to QUIT, answer the three questions (in EVERY QUIT GROUP YOU'VE BEEN A PART OF, GOING BACK TO AUGUST 2011).... Then prove you're a man of your word. Honor your post by not shoving crap in your lip, and then do it again tomorrow. That's how quits are built. Not the way you've been playing the game to date, matt....
Answering the 3 questions to every month he has joined would take forever. It's like 5 or 6 I think.
Apparently I didn't get the memo and apparently you can't count.
Dude the place you're looking for is down the block
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Hey Matt....
Guess you didn't get the memo... LIMIT ONE INTRODUCTION PER CUSTOMER.
Also, this is a site for QUITTERS, not for STOPPERS. You want to STOP for awhile, go your arse away. You want to QUIT, answer the three questions (in EVERY QUIT GROUP YOU'VE BEEN A PART OF, GOING BACK TO AUGUST 2011).... Then prove you're a man of your word. Honor your post by not shoving crap in your lip, and then do it again tomorrow. That's how quits are built. Not the way you've been playing the game to date, matt....
Answering the 3 questions to every month he has joined would take forever. It's like 5 or 6 I think.
Apparently I didn't get the memo and apparently you can't count.
Dude the place you're looking for is down the block
No it isn't, I know where am. Do you? Because you are supposed to be here for a hand up to people who are down. And you are failing at that bad ass.
No I have not quit and restarted 5 - 6 times. Only once. I came back again but never posted up or joined a group because of the negative comments. I'm day 2 foggy and irritable and mad at myself already, so if your gonna come around here running your man pleaser's about my situation, I guarantee you I will end up saying something back to you that you may feel like I should apologize for later but you'll be waiting a while.
I'm here for the same reason the rest of you are. Im an addict. Your rude to me then you bet your ass I'll be rude back. I may have failed at my last quit. But the difference between you and me is that I know that failure is an event, not a person. Yes I deserve to pay the price for not staying clean. But I am sure none of you can make me feel as bad as I make myself feel for this. Not to mention Im living through all the shit days I told myself I wouldnt ever have to experience again.
There are no excuses for giving in. But like I said before my world fell apart literally all with in months, and I caved. I put up a fight and resisted but going from holding my wife while they buried her daughter to then walking in on her fucking her boss (the first job she had since we got together) and emptying my house, was a bit too much on top of court for shit I didnt do and finding out in and out of court she had kids I didnt know about and had been screwing guys off the internet since we met... so yeah I caved I went back to my comfort zone, using nicotine. I started drinking which lead to smoking which lead to chewing. And chewing is not th only issue this caused for me either.
But that was yesterday, now I'm back in the saddle, I'm sick of being a slave to nicotine, tired of the spitters, the smell, and sore teeth and always worrying about what my breath smells like. My dad, like the rest of his family, is dying from congestive heart failure and was a smoker for years. That helped me decide its time to grow up and quit for good. I need to be a better example to my boys and I need to get past this so I can go to the gym and strengthen my heart and get healthy again. So if you doubt me because of my past, good for you. If you must make a smart ass remark go for it. But dont cry when you get called out for being a prick.
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Matt, I think you were in my original class. Today is day 1893 for me, and I know you wish you were posting with similar numbers. People will jump your shit for not posting and doing it their exact way. I ran into that at the start. Scowick reached out to me and allowed me to text him daily when I could not post. Please post daily, it does help.
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Look your not gonna hurt my feelings, I got one mission with you and that's not necessarily to make you like me, frankly I don't give a shit if you like me or not. My main goal is to do whatever it takes for you to get serious about your quit. Post damn roll every day here is expected. Sorry you got screwed over by your so called wife but look ain't no one worth killing yourself over. Being angry is expected so if you feel like you need to bitch and raise hell, as long as your names on roll , take all the free shots you want at me! Quit on! Be careful the one you dislike the most just liable to be the one pull you off that cave ledge! First and foremost answer your questions and don't resist what just might be your , no I should say will be your best chance at quitting! Be a man about this or you gonna continue getting shit slung at you!
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Look your not gonna hurt my feelings, I got one mission with you and that's not necessarily to make you like me, frankly I don't give a shit if you like me or not. My main goal is to do whatever it takes for you to get serious about your quit. Post damn roll every day here is expected. Sorry you got screwed over by your so called wife but look ain't no one worth killing yourself over. Being angry is expected so if you feel like you need to bitch and raise hell, as long as your names on roll , take all the free shots you want at me! Quit on! Be careful the one you dislike the most just liable to be the one pull you off that cave ledge! First and foremost answer your questions and don't resist what just might be your , no I should say will be your best chance at quitting! Be a man about this or you gonna continue getting shit slung at you!
You may or may not believe it Matt, but Pab's got your best interests at heart. All he, or anyone else in this forum, wants from you is openness, honesty, integrity, and dedication to your quit. Your post up above is getting at the answers to the questions really closely. I would urge you to spend a little bit more time in self-reflection, then post up what you really felt about why you caved and what you're going to do differently....you said yourself...that was yesterday, and now you're back in the saddle.
Show us you're serious. Show us you got all that put behind you. Be open, be honest, rage and bitch if you want....like Pab said, we just want you quit. But you have to play by the ground rules of the forum. That's where the three questions (in each group you've ever been a part of), and the DAILY roll post comes in. From what I've seen for the past two days, at least you have the roll part down pat.
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Matt, I think you were in my original class. Today is day 1893 for me, and I know you wish you were posting with similar numbers. People will jump your shit for not posting and doing it their exact way. I ran into that at the start. Scowick reached out to me and allowed me to text him daily when I could not post. Please post daily, it does help.
Wish? Hell man I have no idea how to explain the feelings of regret I have for caving. The sweats, the sores on my tongue, waking up 3 dozen times a night because I inhaled stomach acid, it all sucks and reminds me of just how stupid it was to sign myself up for this again. Today would have been 1888 days, instead I'm on day 2... that sucks to say. But day 2 also means that I care about being alive again. Which may seem small and simple to you, but it's huge for me. I guess it all depends on the view from where you are standing.
I hate talking about what happened to me and remembering life around the time I caved. I'm sure there are many people who have had it worse than me but I guess I am not as strong because I was destroyed and I caved to everything, not just chewing.
Scowick and Syndrome were all bad asses and helped me a lot back in the day. I apologize for letting you and the other guys down by not staying quit with you. I am posting up and struggling through.
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I truly want to help you all I can with this and I can't say what I would have done in your shoes early on in my quit but now I've tasted true freedom and I will never go back! You already know this is he'd so please take the time to think about the 3 questions, answer them and if you get called out, so what! Drink the kool aid, there just words and I know you can take it. Main thing take what you need from here and leave the rest. I dipped 38 years stopped 100's of times but found Ktc and by golly 570 days later thanks to some of the baddest quitters ever I'm free and loving every damn second of it! Get it done! Honestly no one here wants to see you fail, we're all addicts and we need each other to survive!
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What happened? I caved
Why did it happen? Because I was stupid and caved in a weak period of time, which lead me into using nicotine daily again. I let my guard down.
What are you going to do different this time? This time I am going to post roll even after I feel like I am done needing to. I think things could have been different if I had still been posting up
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What happened? I caved
Why did it happen? Because I was stupid and caved in a weak period of time, which lead me into using nicotine daily again. I let my guard down.
What are you going to do different this time? This time I am going to post roll even after I feel like I am done needing to. I think things could have been different if I had still been posting up
Matt need post in your home group. They are weak, take a little time put some thought in them
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Matt need post in your home group. They are weak, take a little time put some thought in them[/quote]Okay is this better??
What happened?
I was weaker than I thought and I caved to the nic bitch in the spring of 2013.
Why did it happen?
I didn't know my friends I was talking with had started smoking again. I was drinking with them and about 4 beers in when they lit up. They had quit smoking when I quit chewing it was kind of a competition to see who could outlast who and I hadn't seen them since I had quit because of THE MEGA BITCH. So when I saw them smoking I asked for one. After my first puff I asked when they started smoking again. I found out my friend Joe was smoking and chewing now. I told them about that being my first cigarette since 2011 and they got mad that I asked them for one.
It also happened because I wasn't posting up anymore because I thought I had overcome my addiction. Life got really shitty with THE MEGA BITCH and I tried using nicotine as a coping mechanism.
And even though this was ultimately my decision to use again... it also happened because I discovered that I was married to THE MEGA BITCH and not only was paying for her custody battle half the country away and her daughters funeral, her family to travel in, her new car, I was also financing her sexual Craigslist adventures while I was out of town. And my fishing buddy, and customer that hadoesn't gotten THE MEGA BITCH a job was also doing her in my bed. So I chewed because of that worthless white trash whore.
What are you going to do different this time?
This time I am going to post roll even after I feel like I am.
The MEGA BITCH is gone so no worries there.
I'm going to follow two things Anthony Robbins says... replace "it" with something.... I'm going to go to the gym for an hour a day to help relieve my anxiety.
And he says to use the pain and pleasure principle... associate nothing but pain to chewing and pleasure to liftiNguyen and exercise
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Matt need post in your home group. They are weak, take a little time put some thought in them
Okay is this better??
What happened?
I was weaker than I thought and I caved to the nic bitch in the spring of 2013.
Why did it happen?
I didn't know my friends I was talking with had started smoking again. I was drinking with them and about 4 beers in when they lit up. They had quit smoking when I quit chewing it was kind of a competition to see who could outlast who and I hadn't seen them since I had quit because of THE MEGA BITCH. So when I saw them smoking I asked for one. After my first puff I asked when they started smoking again. I found out my friend Joe was smoking and chewing now. I told them about that being my first cigarette since 2011 and they got mad that I asked them for one.
It also happened because I wasn't posting up anymore because I thought I had overcome my addiction. Life got really shitty with THE MEGA BITCH and I tried using nicotine as a coping mechanism.
And even though this was ultimately my decision to use again... it also happened because I discovered that I was married to THE MEGA BITCH and not only was paying for her custody battle half the country away and her daughters funeral, her family to travel in, her new car, I was also financing her sexual Craigslist adventures while I was out of town. And my fishing buddy, and customer that hadoesn't gotten THE MEGA BITCH a job was also doing her in my bed. So I chewed because of that worthless white trash whore.
What are you going to do different this time?
This time I am going to post roll even after I feel like I am.
The MEGA BITCH is gone so no worries there.
I'm going to follow two things Anthony Robbins says... replace "it" with something.... I'm going to go to the gym for an hour a day to help relieve my anxiety.
And he says to use the pain and pleasure principle... associate nothing but pain to chewing and pleasure to liftiNguyen and exercise [/quote]Definitely
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Matt need post in your home group. They are weak, take a little time put some thought in them
Okay is this better??
What happened?
I was weaker than I thought and I caved to the nic bitch in the spring of 2013.
Why did it happen?
I didn't know my friends I was talking with had started smoking again. I was drinking with them and about 4 beers in when they lit up. They had quit smoking when I quit chewing it was kind of a competition to see who could outlast who and I hadn't seen them since I had quit because of THE MEGA BITCH. So when I saw them smoking I asked for one. After my first puff I asked when they started smoking again. I found out my friend Joe was smoking and chewing now. I told them about that being my first cigarette since 2011 and they got mad that I asked them for one.
It also happened because I wasn't posting up anymore because I thought I had overcome my addiction. Life got really shitty with THE MEGA BITCH and I tried using nicotine as a coping mechanism.
And even though this was ultimately my decision to use again... it also happened because I discovered that I was married to THE MEGA BITCH and not only was paying for her custody battle half the country away and her daughters funeral, her family to travel in, her new car, I was also financing her sexual Craigslist adventures while I was out of town. And my fishing buddy, and customer that hadoesn't gotten THE MEGA BITCH a job was also doing her in my bed. So I chewed because of that worthless white trash whore.
What are you going to do different this time?
This time I am going to post roll even after I feel like I am.
The MEGA BITCH is gone so no worries there.
I'm going to follow two things Anthony Robbins says... replace "it" with something.... I'm going to go to the gym for an hour a day to help relieve my anxiety.
And he says to use the pain and pleasure principle... associate nothing but pain to chewing and pleasure to liftiNguyen and exercise [/quote]Definitely
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Matt need post in your home group. They are weak, take a little time put some thought in them
Okay is this better??
What happened?
I was weaker than I thought and I caved to the nic bitch in the spring of 2013.
Why did it happen?
I didn't know my friends I was talking with had started smoking again. I was drinking with them and about 4 beers in when they lit up. They had quit smoking when I quit chewing it was kind of a competition to see who could outlast who and I hadn't seen them since I had quit because of THE MEGA BITCH. So when I saw them smoking I asked for one. After my first puff I asked when they started smoking again. I found out my friend Joe was smoking and chewing now. I told them about that being my first cigarette since 2011 and they got mad that I asked them for one.
It also happened because I wasn't posting up anymore because I thought I had overcome my addiction. Life got really shitty with THE MEGA BITCH and I tried using nicotine as a coping mechanism.
And even though this was ultimately my decision to use again... it also happened because I discovered that I was married to THE MEGA BITCH and not only was paying for her custody battle half the country away and her daughters funeral, her family to travel in, her new car, I was also financing her sexual Craigslist adventures while I was out of town. And my fishing buddy, and customer that hadoesn't gotten THE MEGA BITCH a job was also doing her in my bed. So I chewed because of that worthless white trash whore.
What are you going to do different this time?
This time I am going to post roll even after I feel like I am.
The MEGA BITCH is gone so no worries there.
I'm going to follow two things Anthony Robbins says... replace "it" with something.... I'm going to go to the gym for an hour a day to help relieve my anxiety.
And he says to use the pain and pleasure principle... associate nothing but pain to chewing and pleasure to liftiNguyen and exercise
Definitely [/quote]I did
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Matt need post in your home group. They are weak, take a little time put some thought in them
Okay is this better??
What happened?
I was weaker than I thought and I caved to the nic bitch in the spring of 2013.
Why did it happen?
I didn't know my friends I was talking with had started smoking again. I was drinking with them and about 4 beers in when they lit up. They had quit smoking when I quit chewing it was kind of a competition to see who could outlast who and I hadn't seen them since I had quit because of THE MEGA BITCH. So when I saw them smoking I asked for one. After my first puff I asked when they started smoking again. I found out my friend Joe was smoking and chewing now. I told them about that being my first cigarette since 2011 and they got mad that I asked them for one.
It also happened because I wasn't posting up anymore because I thought I had overcome my addiction. Life got really shitty with THE MEGA BITCH and I tried using nicotine as a coping mechanism.
And even though this was ultimately my decision to use again... it also happened because I discovered that I was married to THE MEGA BITCH and not only was paying for her custody battle half the country away and her daughters funeral, her family to travel in, her new car, I was also financing her sexual Craigslist adventures while I was out of town. And my fishing buddy, and customer that hadoesn't gotten THE MEGA BITCH a job was also doing her in my bed. So I chewed because of that worthless white trash whore.
What are you going to do different this time?
This time I am going to post roll even after I feel like I am.
The MEGA BITCH is gone so no worries there.
I'm going to follow two things Anthony Robbins says... replace "it" with something.... I'm going to go to the gym for an hour a day to help relieve my anxiety.
And he says to use the pain and pleasure principle... associate nothing but pain to chewing and pleasure to liftiNguyen and exercise
Definitely
Go ahead and rage all you want in here. We've all been there and know it's a mother of an addiction to break. Just remember you're not alone, and countless others have walked the path you're on now.
Also remember even though it might seem like it, quitting nicotine won't actually kill you. Stay strong, Matt. You got this.
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Go ahead and rage all you want in here. We've all been there and know it's a mother of an addiction to break. Just remember you're not alone, and countless others have walked the path you're
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Go ahead and rage all you want in here. We've all been there and know it's a mother of an addiction to break. Just remember you're not alone, and countless others have walked the path you're on now.
Also remember even though it might seem like it, quitting nicotine won't actually kill you. Stay strong, Matt. You got this.
Okay here I'm dying to say this to someone right now who is a whiney little cunt that just can't stand to not be the center of attention no matter what because her city life and city friends and huge cunt of a mother have taught her she's a mother fucking princess and I'm supposed to be happy and cheerful to contemplate every decision she has to fucking make for her like she's a God damn 2 year old. Go camping with your mommy or not... it's your fucking mom bitch! Choose! I'd rather go camping with Hannibal than go with your stupid ass mother and her fat as fuck drunk ass boyfriend she's trying to impress by having us go. His 17 year old can't even order her own food at a restaurant, why do I want to get to know those weak fuckers?. And yeah bitch I will get rid of your needy ass house, four wheeler, camper the whole nine yards if your bitch ass can't back the fuck up be a God damn adult and let me take care of myself once in a while. I knew I'd be better off alone than with a mother fucking weak ass city person walking around with a fucking lazy ass Kardashian as a hero. Get a fucking life and stop being the victim bitch just because you have to choose for yourself whether to go camping or stay home or go to a funeral with me or stay at work. And if I can't ignore people because I am irritated and that makes you need to have a counseling session and all that other pussy ass shit then go fuck yourself.
Well... alrighty, then!
That, boys-n-girls, is how you vent.
Bring it on, man... this is a safe place to put it out there.
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Go ahead and rage all you want in here. We've all been there and know it's a mother of an addiction to break. Just remember you're not alone, and countless others have walked the path you're on now.
Also remember even though it might seem like it, quitting nicotine won't actually kill you. Stay strong, Matt. You got this.
Okay here I'm dying to say this to someone right now who is a whiney little cunt that just can't stand to not be the center of attention no matter what because her city life and city friends and huge cunt of a mother have taught her she's a mother fucking princess and I'm supposed to be happy and cheerful to contemplate every decision she has to fucking make for her like she's a God damn 2 year old. Go camping with your mommy or not... it's your fucking mom bitch! Choose! I'd rather go camping with Hannibal than go with your stupid ass mother and her fat as fuck drunk ass boyfriend she's trying to impress by having us go. His 17 year old can't even order her own food at a restaurant, why do I want to get to know those weak fuckers?. And yeah bitch I will get rid of your needy ass house, four wheeler, camper the whole nine yards if your bitch ass can't back the fuck up be a God damn adult and let me take care of myself once in a while. I knew I'd be better off alone than with a mother fucking weak ass city person walking around with a fucking lazy ass Kardashian as a hero. Get a fucking life and stop being the victim bitch just because you have to choose for yourself whether to go camping or stay home or go to a funeral with me or stay at work. And if I can't ignore people because I am irritated and that makes you need to have a counseling session and all that other pussy ass shit then go fuck yourself.
Well... alrighty, then!
That, boys-n-girls, is how you vent.
Bring it on, man... this is a safe place to put it out there.
Damn.....just.....Damn!
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Go ahead and rage all you want in here. We've all been there and know it's a mother of an addiction to break. Just remember you're not alone, and countless others have walked the path you're on now.
Also remember even though it might seem like it, quitting nicotine won't actually kill you. Stay strong, Matt. You got this.
Okay here I'm dying to say this to someone right now who is a whiney little cunt that just can't stand to not be the center of attention no matter what because her city life and city friends and huge cunt of a mother have taught her she's a mother fucking princess and I'm supposed to be happy and cheerful to contemplate every decision she has to fucking make for her like she's a God damn 2 year old. Go camping with your mommy or not... it's your fucking mom bitch! Choose! I'd rather go camping with Hannibal than go with your stupid ass mother and her fat as fuck drunk ass boyfriend she's trying to impress by having us go. His 17 year old can't even order her own food at a restaurant, why do I want to get to know those weak fuckers?. And yeah bitch I will get rid of your needy ass house, four wheeler, camper the whole nine yards if your bitch ass can't back the fuck up be a God damn adult and let me take care of myself once in a while. I knew I'd be better off alone than with a mother fucking weak ass city person walking around with a fucking lazy ass Kardashian as a hero. Get a fucking life and stop being the victim bitch just because you have to choose for yourself whether to go camping or stay home or go to a funeral with me or stay at work. And if I can't ignore people because I am irritated and that makes you need to have a counseling session and all that other pussy ass shit then go fuck yourself.
Well... alrighty, then!
That, boys-n-girls, is how you vent.
Bring it on, man... this is a safe place to put it out there.
Damn.....just.....Damn!
Good thing Matt had an outlet for that....can you imagine keeping that much fury bottled up for even a little while? His friggin' head would blow off, just like that water heater commercial from Farmers! (http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=farmers%27+water+heater+commercial&qpvt=farmers%27+water+heater+commercial&view=detail&mid=19FFD2F7C9C3FBB801AF19FFD2F7C9C3FBB801AF&FORM=VRDGAR) Rage on, Matt, but while you're raging, stay quit. Let us know how, in a practical way, we can help other than to encourage you to do whatever you have to to not put that crap in your lip.