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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Deerslayer9688 on September 02, 2014, 09:29:00 PM
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Hey everyone been dipping for 3 years now. I just been accepted into the Delaware State Police academy starting September 8th. The great thing about the academy is that it is tobacco free for 6 months. I have weekends off. Today is my day 1. I feel like crap, hard to type or concentrate. It is going to be impossible to post everyday for roll call, but I will be able to post on weekends. Wish me luck
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Hey everyone been dipping for 3 years now. I just been accepted into the Delaware State Police academy starting September 8th. The great thing about the academy is that it is tobacco free for 6 months. I have weekends off. Today is my day 1. I feel like crap, hard to type or concentrate. It is going to be impossible to post everyday for roll call, but I will be able to post on weekends. Wish me luck
Why can't you post roll?
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Monday through Friday I will be living in the academy. No electronic no nothing. Think of it like a military boot camp. That will force me to function under high volumes of stress without the use of dip.
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Hey everyone been dipping for 3 years now. I just been accepted into the Delaware State Police academy starting September 8th. The great thing about the academy is that it is tobacco free for 6 months. I have weekends off. Today is my day 1. I feel like crap, hard to type or concentrate. It is going to be impossible to post everyday for roll call, but I will be able to post on weekends. Wish me luck
Why can't you post roll?
Yea^^^ why? You have failure written all over your intro. Starters, you are quitting for the wrong reason. You've got to quit for you and no one else. We don't quit with luck, it's only through pure determination. I've only heard a couple valid excuses to not be able to post role daily and I don't anticipate you will come up with one. Get serious, quit because YOU want to quit more than anything you've ever wanted and put everything you've got into your quit. If not you will fail, even if you make it 6 months you'll be back on the can as soon as your out of the academy. Prove me wrong.
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Hey everyone been dipping for 3 years now. I just been accepted into the Delaware State Police academy starting September 8th. The great thing about the academy is that it is tobacco free for 6 months. I have weekends off. Today is my day 1. I feel like crap, hard to type or concentrate. It is going to be impossible to post everyday for roll call, but I will be able to post on weekends. Wish me luck
Why can't you post roll?
Yea^^^ why? You have failure written all over your intro. Starters, you are quitting for the wrong reason. You've got to quit for you and no one else. We don't quit with luck, it's only through pure determination. I've only heard a couple valid excuses to not be able to post role daily and I don't anticipate you will come up with one. Get serious, quit because YOU want to quit more than anything you've ever wanted and put everything you've got into your quit. If not you will fail, even if you make it 6 months you'll be back on the can as soon as your out of the academy. Prove me wrong.
Thanks for the reply! I don't have any access to a computer/phone/internet while I am at the police academy. I will post every Saturday and Sunday mornings. I am not allowed to leave the facilities. I will be posting roll call until I leave on Monday morning.
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What is your goal? Are you here to quit or take a break for 6 months?
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Hey everyone been dipping for 3 years now. I just been accepted into the Delaware State Police academy starting September 8th. The great thing about the academy is that it is tobacco free for 6 months. I have weekends off. Today is my day 1. I feel like crap, hard to type or concentrate. It is going to be impossible to post everyday for roll call, but I will be able to post on weekends. Wish me luck
Why can't you post roll?
Yea^^^ why? You have failure written all over your intro. Starters, you are quitting for the wrong reason. You've got to quit for you and no one else. We don't quit with luck, it's only through pure determination. I've only heard a couple valid excuses to not be able to post role daily and I don't anticipate you will come up with one. Get serious, quit because YOU want to quit more than anything you've ever wanted and put everything you've got into your quit. If not you will fail, even if you make it 6 months you'll be back on the can as soon as your out of the academy. Prove me wrong.
Thanks for the reply! I don't have any access to a computer/phone/internet while I am at the police academy. I will post every Saturday and Sunday mornings. I am not allowed to leave the facilities. I will be posting roll call until I leave on Monday morning.
Trust me, you won't even have time to think about having a dip..you'll be too focused on passing the academy than wanting a dip...goodluck without posting
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Hey everyone been dipping for 3 years now. I just been accepted into the Delaware State Police academy starting September 8th. The great thing about the academy is that it is tobacco free for 6 months. I have weekends off. Today is my day 1. I feel like crap, hard to type or concentrate. It is going to be impossible to post everyday for roll call, but I will be able to post on weekends. Wish me luck
Why can't you post roll?
Yea^^^ why? You have failure written all over your intro. Starters, you are quitting for the wrong reason. You've got to quit for you and no one else. We don't quit with luck, it's only through pure determination. I've only heard a couple valid excuses to not be able to post role daily and I don't anticipate you will come up with one. Get serious, quit because YOU want to quit more than anything you've ever wanted and put everything you've got into your quit. If not you will fail, even if you make it 6 months you'll be back on the can as soon as your out of the academy. Prove me wrong.
Thanks for the reply! I don't have any access to a computer/phone/internet while I am at the police academy. I will post every Saturday and Sunday mornings. I am not allowed to leave the facilities. I will be posting roll call until I leave on Monday morning.
Trust me, you won't even have time to think about having a dip..you'll be too focused on passing the academy than wanting a dip...goodluck without posting
I know nothing about police academy but if you want to quit and stay quit make sure you put as much effort into your quit as you would have feeding your addiction. When you do have access to a computer make sure to spend time on here reading. Read other people's intros, read posts from your group.
Quit to stay quit. It's worth it.
Good luck at the academy
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Hey everyone been dipping for 3 years now. I just been accepted into the Delaware State Police academy starting September 8th. The great thing about the academy is that it is tobacco free for 6 months. I have weekends off. Today is my day 1. I feel like crap, hard to type or concentrate. It is going to be impossible to post everyday for roll call, but I will be able to post on weekends. Wish me luck
Why can't you post roll?
Yea^^^ why? You have failure written all over your intro. Starters, you are quitting for the wrong reason. You've got to quit for you and no one else. We don't quit with luck, it's only through pure determination. I've only heard a couple valid excuses to not be able to post role daily and I don't anticipate you will come up with one. Get serious, quit because YOU want to quit more than anything you've ever wanted and put everything you've got into your quit. If not you will fail, even if you make it 6 months you'll be back on the can as soon as your out of the academy. Prove me wrong.
Thanks for the reply! I don't have any access to a computer/phone/internet while I am at the police academy. I will post every Saturday and Sunday mornings. I am not allowed to leave the facilities. I will be posting roll call until I leave on Monday morning.
Trust me, you won't even have time to think about having a dip..you'll be too focused on passing the academy than wanting a dip...goodluck without posting
I know nothing about police academy but if you want to quit and stay quit make sure you put as much effort into your quit as you would have feeding your addiction. When you do have access to a computer make sure to spend time on here reading. Read other people's intros, read posts from your group.
Quit to stay quit. It's worth it.
Good luck at the academy
Very interesting. Here are my concerns. One, you need to admit that you are an addict. Addicts will do anything for a fix. Addicts can go 6 months without nicotine....they are still addicts. Which leads me to my second concern.
If you go it alone, you may be successful. (I hope you will) But the danger will be 6 months down the road. You might think, I'm a cop now...I can handle it. And, you won't have developed relationships and camaraderie of brothers and sisters who you refuse to let down. You'll be fucking around with other cops getting a beer or whatever after work and someone will pull out a can. You will forget all about us and this little website way back in September, and you'll take a dip. You'll do it because you never joined our family. You used us to get through your Academy. And you will forget all about us.
Posting roll is about mutual accountability. It is about living free ONE DAY AT A TIME. It is about mutual respect earned by seeing others in the same boat fighting the same fight you're waging day in, day out...and winning. It is a BIG TOOL for an addict.
I am concerned that coming here and telling us all of the great shit you are GOING to do in the future, without going whole-hog the way others in your Quit Group and on this site have done is a formula for failure. I'm concerned that you're not committed to quitting, but that you are just trying to game the nicotine piss tests at the Academy. I hope you prove me wrong!
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thanks for the replies! Yes I am a full blown addict no doubt about that. Its a full blown problem. Every morning I wake up it had to be in my mouth. I am on day two now fog is still here. Hoping things start clearing up. Once 6 months of hell is over it will be my goal to post everyday in roll call. As of now its going to be every Saturday and Sunday starting after Sept 8th
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So Monday through Friday you have no contact with the outside world?! That sounds odd.
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Tell ya what Deer.. We do live in a crazy, fucked up world surrounded by stupid rules. So DSP won't let you use the phone or internet M-F. I've heard of crazier shit than that. Hell, listen to some of Thumblewort's stories.
Congrats on making it to day 2, but ummm.. you still haven't posted roll. I get that you will have some limitations starting Sept 8th, but why not post now and for the next 5 days? Get those numbers, make those connections. That way Sat 13th you have people blowing up your phone if you aren't on roll. That's what we do...
You will find plenty of people on this site that have stopped for 6+ months and then used again. I'm one of them. I'm laying the ground work this time to make sure that doesn't happen again. Hoping you will as well.
Getting clean for the Police Academy is not the same as getting clean because you understand it will kill you and/or leave you with half a face.
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I see you've now posted roll. 'oh yeah'
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Sorry I am a slow learner especially feeling the fog in my head
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thanks for the replies! Yes I am a full blown addict no doubt about that. Its a full blown problem. Every morning I wake up it had to be in my mouth. I am on day two now fog is still here. Hoping things start clearing up. Once 6 months of hell is over it will be my goal to post everyday in roll call. As of now its going to be every Saturday and Sunday starting after Sept 8th
Great to hear. More advice...don't set goals and don't hope. There is too great of a chance of letting yourself down. Those things are wishy-washy addict-speak.
Compare it to this...I posted roll and gave my word to you and everyone here that I am quit today. That means I WOULD CUT MY FINGERS OFF OF BOTH HANDS BEFORE I WOULD USE THEM TO PUT TOBACCO IN MY MOUTH...today. That is just how goddam serious I am about..today. I'm not saying I quit forever. But I can guaran-damn-tee you that when my head hits the pillow tonight I will not have had any nicotine.
See the difference? By the way, this is the type of stuff you will miss by not posting roll and reading everyday. Don't feel bad...when I joined this site, I didn't think I needed to post roll. Because I could "quit anytime I wanted to" right? But I decided to humor the hard-core addicts for the first 100 days, then I would go my own way. Luckily, over the course of 100 days, some of the quit-pros got through to me. How? I have no idea. I am as stubborn as they come. But somehow I realized to be here. I needed to post roll. I needed the folks on this site. And that has made all the difference for me. It can for you too.
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Yeah, I got stories. My life is an open glory hole, you want sad, gross, bukkake? Bottom line is that you can do this, get the digits of some bad ass quitters and be quit.
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thanks for the support. Day 3 still fighting. Getting better though.
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Happy birthday! 'oh yeah' 'Have a beer' 'boob' 'poledancer' 'dance' 'party2' 'Birthday'
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Thanks for the bday wishes! My goal was to be nic free out of my system by my bday. I am feeling great. Thinking about all the times I was a bitch and had to stuff my mouth with poison. Grass is greener on the otherside
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Creeping up on day 7 nic free. Going to the Delaware state police academy starting Monday the 8th. Going to post roll when I have off on weekends. Thanks for the support folks
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First weekend out of the academy was a huge success. Nic free. Back to another week at the academy. Ps I am allowed to chew on weekends but chose not to! Keep fighting troops
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So Monday through Friday you have no contact with the outside world?! That sounds odd.
It is pretty standard. Fire Academy is the same way. It literally is "weekday" boot camp, much like I believe you cannot have access to the outside world except for a few hand written snail mail letters in the military during your boot or basic (whatever they call it)
Deerslayer, you have the opportunity due to your circumstances. That does not mean you will utilize it. These guys are jerks and they may talk down to you, but they quit and you have not yet. They earned it, you are still a bitch to a weed in a can.
Stick around and get some digits, these guys will be your best buds when shit does get tough, and it will. If Police academy is anything like Fire academy and firefighters/EMS culture/world, just because it is banned that doesn't mean there won't be a can somewhere there.
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So Monday through Friday you have no contact with the outside world?! That sounds odd.
It is pretty standard. Fire Academy is the same way. It literally is "weekday" boot camp, much like I believe you cannot have access to the outside world except for a few hand written snail mail letters in the military during your boot or basic (whatever they call it)
Deerslayer, you have the opportunity due to your circumstances. That does not mean you will utilize it. These guys are jerks and they may talk down to you, but they quit and you have not yet. They earned it, you are still a bitch to a weed in a can.
Stick around and get some digits, these guys will be your best buds when shit does get tough, and it will. If Police academy is anything like Fire academy and firefighters/EMS culture/world, just because it is banned that doesn't mean there won't be a can somewhere there.
Never heard of a police or fire academy that had you locked up all week. And no phone usage ? What's that supposed to teach you ? Hey deer you pm'd me once and I returned. So holler back.
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So Monday through Friday you have no contact with the outside world?! That sounds odd.
It is pretty standard. Fire Academy is the same way. It literally is "weekday" boot camp, much like I believe you cannot have access to the outside world except for a few hand written snail mail letters in the military during your boot or basic (whatever they call it)
Deerslayer, you have the opportunity due to your circumstances. That does not mean you will utilize it. These guys are jerks and they may talk down to you, but they quit and you have not yet. They earned it, you are still a bitch to a weed in a can.
Stick around and get some digits, these guys will be your best buds when shit does get tough, and it will. If Police academy is anything like Fire academy and firefighters/EMS culture/world, just because it is banned that doesn't mean there won't be a can somewhere there.
Never heard of a police or fire academy that had you locked up all week. And no phone usage ? What's that supposed to teach you ? Hey deer you pm'd me once and I returned. So holler back.
To focus on the task at hand, Academy. You start your morning at 7am with PT and between classroom and field work and PT you finish at around 6pm. Study for a few hours until lights out and don't have time to get on facebook, or text your BFF. The state or county, or city is not paying you to socialize.
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So Monday through Friday you have no contact with the outside world?! That sounds odd.
It is pretty standard. Fire Academy is the same way. It literally is "weekday" boot camp, much like I believe you cannot have access to the outside world except for a few hand written snail mail letters in the military during your boot or basic (whatever they call it)
Deerslayer, you have the opportunity due to your circumstances. That does not mean you will utilize it. These guys are jerks and they may talk down to you, but they quit and you have not yet. They earned it, you are still a bitch to a weed in a can.
Stick around and get some digits, these guys will be your best buds when shit does get tough, and it will. If Police academy is anything like Fire academy and firefighters/EMS culture/world, just because it is banned that doesn't mean there won't be a can somewhere there.
Never heard of a police or fire academy that had you locked up all week. And no phone usage ? What's that supposed to teach you ? Hey deer you pm'd me once and I returned. So holler back.
To focus on the task at hand, Academy. You start your morning at 7am with PT and between classroom and field work and PT you finish at around 6pm. Study for a few hours until lights out and don't have time to get on facebook, or text your BFF. The state or county, or city is not paying you to socialize.
That's bullshit. If someone is alive then they can post roll every fucking morning.
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So Monday through Friday you have no contact with the outside world?! That sounds odd.
It is pretty standard. Fire Academy is the same way. It literally is "weekday" boot camp, much like I believe you cannot have access to the outside world except for a few hand written snail mail letters in the military during your boot or basic (whatever they call it)
Deerslayer, you have the opportunity due to your circumstances. That does not mean you will utilize it. These guys are jerks and they may talk down to you, but they quit and you have not yet. They earned it, you are still a bitch to a weed in a can.
Stick around and get some digits, these guys will be your best buds when shit does get tough, and it will. If Police academy is anything like Fire academy and firefighters/EMS culture/world, just because it is banned that doesn't mean there won't be a can somewhere there.
Never heard of a police or fire academy that had you locked up all week. And no phone usage ? What's that supposed to teach you ? Hey deer you pm'd me once and I returned. So holler back.
To focus on the task at hand, Academy. You start your morning at 7am with PT and between classroom and field work and PT you finish at around 6pm. Study for a few hours until lights out and don't have time to get on facebook, or text your BFF. The state or county, or city is not paying you to socialize.
That's bullshit. If someone is alive then they can post roll every fucking morning.
Once again you are failing to realize the point. I am not defending Deerslayer, I am just stating that if indeed he is going to a state academy they might have rules like the one I went to. You will literally be removed from academy and lose the job you have been accepted into if you break certain rules. One being no cell phones on academy grounds during the week. Quitting is important, quitting my career job before I even begin because of KTC makes posting roll take the back burner.
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So Monday through Friday you have no contact with the outside world?! That sounds odd.
It is pretty standard. Fire Academy is the same way. It literally is "weekday" boot camp, much like I believe you cannot have access to the outside world except for a few hand written snail mail letters in the military during your boot or basic (whatever they call it)
Deerslayer, you have the opportunity due to your circumstances. That does not mean you will utilize it. These guys are jerks and they may talk down to you, but they quit and you have not yet. They earned it, you are still a bitch to a weed in a can.
Stick around and get some digits, these guys will be your best buds when shit does get tough, and it will. If Police academy is anything like Fire academy and firefighters/EMS culture/world, just because it is banned that doesn't mean there won't be a can somewhere there.
Never heard of a police or fire academy that had you locked up all week. And no phone usage ? What's that supposed to teach you ? Hey deer you pm'd me once and I returned. So holler back.
To focus on the task at hand, Academy. You start your morning at 7am with PT and between classroom and field work and PT you finish at around 6pm. Study for a few hours until lights out and don't have time to get on facebook, or text your BFF. The state or county, or city is not paying you to socialize.
That's bullshit. If someone is alive then they can post roll every fucking morning.
Once again you are failing to realize the point. I am not defending Deerslayer, I am just stating that if indeed he is going to a state academy they might have rules like the one I went to. You will literally be removed from academy and lose the job you have been accepted into if you break certain rules. One being no cell phones on academy grounds during the week. Quitting is important, quitting my career job before I even begin because of KTC makes posting roll take the back burner.
Well my point was that academies start at a certain time and end at a certain time. Never heard of them owning anyone 24 hrs a day.
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It happens a good bit actually. Same basic concept as boot camp. You are immersed in the training environment. No phone, no keys, hell, no food other than what they issue. That's how my first fire academy was. The good thing is since he appears to be a rule follower, he won't try to sneak a can of cancer in and partake in the forbidden nic. Keep up the quit brother.
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So Monday through Friday you have no contact with the outside world?! That sounds odd.
It is pretty standard. Fire Academy is the same way. It literally is "weekday" boot camp, much like I believe you cannot have access to the outside world except for a few hand written snail mail letters in the military during your boot or basic (whatever they call it)
Deerslayer, you have the opportunity due to your circumstances. That does not mean you will utilize it. These guys are jerks and they may talk down to you, but they quit and you have not yet. They earned it, you are still a bitch to a weed in a can.
Stick around and get some digits, these guys will be your best buds when shit does get tough, and it will. If Police academy is anything like Fire academy and firefighters/EMS culture/world, just because it is banned that doesn't mean there won't be a can somewhere there.
Never heard of a police or fire academy that had you locked up all week. And no phone usage ? What's that supposed to teach you ? Hey deer you pm'd me once and I returned. So holler back.
To focus on the task at hand, Academy. You start your morning at 7am with PT and between classroom and field work and PT you finish at around 6pm. Study for a few hours until lights out and don't have time to get on facebook, or text your BFF. The state or county, or city is not paying you to socialize.
That's bullshit. If someone is alive then they can post roll every fucking morning.
Once again you are failing to realize the point. I am not defending Deerslayer, I am just stating that if indeed he is going to a state academy they might have rules like the one I went to. You will literally be removed from academy and lose the job you have been accepted into if you break certain rules. One being no cell phones on academy grounds during the week. Quitting is important, quitting my career job before I even begin because of KTC makes posting roll take the back burner.
Well my point was that academies start at a certain time and end at a certain time. Never heard of them owning anyone 24 hrs a day.
You still don't understand, this is a 24 hour deal. He lives at the facility Monday through Friday. That is how mine was and that is what I gather Deerslayer is partaking in.
Fire/Police and some EMS organizations are paramilitary in operation.
If I am mistaken Deerslayer can correct me when he returns next weekend.
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So Monday through Friday you have no contact with the outside world?! That sounds odd.
It is pretty standard. Fire Academy is the same way. It literally is "weekday" boot camp, much like I believe you cannot have access to the outside world except for a few hand written snail mail letters in the military during your boot or basic (whatever they call it)
Deerslayer, you have the opportunity due to your circumstances. That does not mean you will utilize it. These guys are jerks and they may talk down to you, but they quit and you have not yet. They earned it, you are still a bitch to a weed in a can.
Stick around and get some digits, these guys will be your best buds when shit does get tough, and it will. If Police academy is anything like Fire academy and firefighters/EMS culture/world, just because it is banned that doesn't mean there won't be a can somewhere there.
Never heard of a police or fire academy that had you locked up all week. And no phone usage ? What's that supposed to teach you ? Hey deer you pm'd me once and I returned. So holler back.
To focus on the task at hand, Academy. You start your morning at 7am with PT and between classroom and field work and PT you finish at around 6pm. Study for a few hours until lights out and don't have time to get on facebook, or text your BFF. The state or county, or city is not paying you to socialize.
That's bullshit. If someone is alive then they can post roll every fucking morning.
Once again you are failing to realize the point. I am not defending Deerslayer, I am just stating that if indeed he is going to a state academy they might have rules like the one I went to. You will literally be removed from academy and lose the job you have been accepted into if you break certain rules. One being no cell phones on academy grounds during the week. Quitting is important, quitting my career job before I even begin because of KTC makes posting roll take the back burner.
Well my point was that academies start at a certain time and end at a certain time. Never heard of them owning anyone 24 hrs a day.
You still don't understand, this is a 24 hour deal. He lives at the facility Monday through Friday. That is how mine was and that is what I gather Deerslayer is partaking in.
Fire/Police and some EMS organizations are paramilitary in operation.
If I am mistaken Deerslayer can correct me when he returns next weekend.
It is what it is folks, sometimes we just have to take someone's word as the truth. He said he can't post or communicate with the outside world while at the academy, I will believe him. He did come post his first weekend out, so that is good. His true test will come when he gets out of the academy when every 3rd guy on the street is dipping and his first midnight shift in trying to stay awake and type a domestic violence report at 0300 hours after already working 8 hours going call to call, or standing some post on the perimeter of a homicide for 8 hours in the middle of the night with nothing to do. That is when Deerslayer will find out about what his quit is worth to him. For now he gets a pass with roll as long as he posts on the weekends............