KillTheCan.org Accountability Forum
Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Sacksyboy on March 29, 2016, 11:49:00 AM
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I was on the metro in DC on Friday when I saw something and had a thought that I canÂ’t shake.
There was a guy (35ish), sitting with 3 young kids and his wife. They were clearly tourists--not hard to tell. The kids were excited. Probably not often on a metro, they were staring out the window. Then I saw something.
Guy had a lip in. From the moment I saw that, I watched him like a hawk. I don’t know why but I just instantly became sad. I was just watching his facial expressions, his interactions with the kids. He never said a word, had a travel mug for “coffee” that he spit into twice over the course of about 15 minutes.
At one point his wife asked him for some wipes and he reached into his pack and tossed them across the train--again, no talking. He seemed to have his head down a bunch, kept touching his face and itching his nose in the “I’m trying to hide the fat lip” way we all know too well. I could tell he was not proud. Not proud to be trying to fit a quick lip in on public transportation with my wife and kids on vacation before I have to go without one for the rest of the morning.
Then I began to wonder about this guy. His story. I wonder if he wants to quit. Maybe he has tried before? I would have just sat next to him and started a conversation, but I was with my wife and he was with his wife and children. After he and his family got off (at the Smithsonian stop—definitely tourists..) I started explaining my thoughts to my wife. I told her I had this wild gamut of emotions. I was so proud of my quit so far (at this point 8 days in). Seeing this man sit there silently, clearly trying to hide a lip, with his wife and 3 kids all enjoying the ride added extra motivation to my quit that day. I also couldn’t stop feeling so sad. I wished I could have talked to him. Asked him questions. Listened to his story. Maybe, just maybe, I could have helped nudge him in the right direction (KTC.org). I just didn’t have that chance.
That’s when I told my wife, I wish I literally had business cards for this website. I could have discretely slipped one to him and quietly said “just take a look”. Maybe he throws it away without even a thought. It’s very possible. However, what if it at least got him on the site? Even if he isn’t ready to quit yet, maybe if he begins considering a quit down the road he remembers the site and it helps him then? Maybe he has tried to quit already and failed and this gives him the motivation to try again?
In my mind, say just 1 of every 10 cards given out even came on the site once. Then of those, say 10% attempted a quit? For those of you following along at home, that would mean of every 100 business cards handed out—about 1 person would attempt a quit. 100 cards cost somewhere around $10-$20. If you told me I could pay $20 right now and go back with a shot to help that dad on the train potentially quit? I would in a heartbeat. Could I have nudged him in a way that ended with him quitting a decade earlier that if I stayed silently in my seat across the metro? Could I have given those kids more time with their father? Likely not. But, it is possible. And I don’t want to waste more opportunities like that.
So I was curious if the KTC community thought there may be something to this idea of cards? I would be willing to design, make, and pay for these to be made. Or if the Admins want to do it, that works too. I understand there could be some drawbacks to doing this, so if you don't like the idea--comment about it. I just can't stop thinking about this family on the metro and wanted to at least bring up the topic and discuss.
Sorry if this is the wrong place to write this, I am still a newbie here.
Proud to quit with you all,
Josh
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I'm also a noob.
I had the exact same thought maybe a month ago (now 68 days quit). There was a dude in line behind me who bought a can of Cope. I thought I should say something to him (I didn't), or I wished I had a card I could just hand him.
The cards wouldn't necessarily have to be "official" or "KTC sanctioned". All you need is some sheets of card stock, MS Word/Publisher/even Power Point would work (or the Corel suite), a printer, and a paper cutter. Or you can buy pre-perforated card stock.
Type out the URL, and a brief description, and something like "You know you want to quit. Here's the support you've been looking for".
Fortunately "Kill the Can" is fairly self descriptive, especially when the stranger either has a fatty in, or is buying a can.
Again, I was too lazy to actually follow through and do it.
I also believe that anyone who is more than about five years (or less?) removed from the beginning of their addiction wants to quit.
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I'm also a noob.
I had the exact same thought maybe a month ago (now 68 days quit). There was a dude in line behind me who bought a can of Cope. I thought I should say something to him (I didn't), or I wished I had a card I could just hand him.
The cards wouldn't necessarily have to be "official" or "KTC sanctioned". All you need is some sheets of card stock, MS Word/Publisher/even Power Point would work (or the Corel suite), a printer, and a paper cutter. Or you can buy pre-perforated card stock.
Type out the URL, and a brief description, and something like "You know you want to quit. Here's the support you've been looking for".
Fortunately "Kill the Can" is fairly self descriptive, especially when the stranger either has a fatty in, or is buying a can.
Again, I was too lazy to actually follow through and do it.
I also believe that anyone who is more than about five years (or less?) removed from the beginning of their addiction wants to quit.
I think it's a great idea. There's actually a bunch of places you can get business cards made up pretty cheap, I think Vistaprint offers like 500 for 10 bucks or something. All you would have to do is the initial design template then save it on a dropbox. Anyone who wants their own cards can then just grab the template, upload to wherever they want to get them printed and pay for it themself.
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I'm also a noob.
I had the exact same thought maybe a month ago (now 68 days quit). There was a dude in line behind me who bought a can of Cope. I thought I should say something to him (I didn't), or I wished I had a card I could just hand him.
The cards wouldn't necessarily have to be "official" or "KTC sanctioned". All you need is some sheets of card stock, MS Word/Publisher/even Power Point would work (or the Corel suite), a printer, and a paper cutter. Or you can buy pre-perforated card stock.
Type out the URL, and a brief description, and something like "You know you want to quit. Here's the support you've been looking for".
Fortunately "Kill the Can" is fairly self descriptive, especially when the stranger either has a fatty in, or is buying a can.
Again, I was too lazy to actually follow through and do it.
I also believe that anyone who is more than about five years (or less?) removed from the beginning of their addiction wants to quit.
I think it's a great idea. There's actually a bunch of places you can get business cards made up pretty cheap, I think Vistaprint offers like 500 for 10 bucks or something. All you would have to do is the initial design template then save it on a dropbox. Anyone who wants their own cards can then just grab the template, upload to wherever they want to get them printed and pay for it themself.
I just really thought it would be a good idea but wasn't exactly sure how to move on it. Wasn't sure if the Admins would want to handle it, or if they have thought about it and have reasons why they don't want to?
Not sure, just wanted to post it up and see what people thought.
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I'm also a noob.
I had the exact same thought maybe a month ago (now 68 days quit). There was a dude in line behind me who bought a can of Cope. I thought I should say something to him (I didn't), or I wished I had a card I could just hand him.
The cards wouldn't necessarily have to be "official" or "KTC sanctioned". All you need is some sheets of card stock, MS Word/Publisher/even Power Point would work (or the Corel suite), a printer, and a paper cutter. Or you can buy pre-perforated card stock.
Type out the URL, and a brief description, and something like "You know you want to quit. Here's the support you've been looking for".
Fortunately "Kill the Can" is fairly self descriptive, especially when the stranger either has a fatty in, or is buying a can.
Again, I was too lazy to actually follow through and do it.
I also believe that anyone who is more than about five years (or less?) removed from the beginning of their addiction wants to quit.
I think it's a great idea. There's actually a bunch of places you can get business cards made up pretty cheap, I think Vistaprint offers like 500 for 10 bucks or something. All you would have to do is the initial design template then save it on a dropbox. Anyone who wants their own cards can then just grab the template, upload to wherever they want to get them printed and pay for it themself.
I just really thought it would be a good idea but wasn't exactly sure how to move on it. Wasn't sure if the Admins would want to handle it, or if they have thought about it and have reasons why they don't want to?
Not sure, just wanted to post it up and see what people thought.
This idea has been kicked around numerous times. There actually used to be a template somewhere (where, exactly, I don't know) for just such a thing.
It's encouraging to see new quitters take such a vested interest and want to bring others to freedom.
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I'm also a noob.
I had the exact same thought maybe a month ago (now 68 days quit). There was a dude in line behind me who bought a can of Cope. I thought I should say something to him (I didn't), or I wished I had a card I could just hand him.
The cards wouldn't necessarily have to be "official" or "KTC sanctioned". All you need is some sheets of card stock, MS Word/Publisher/even Power Point would work (or the Corel suite), a printer, and a paper cutter. Or you can buy pre-perforated card stock.
Type out the URL, and a brief description, and something like "You know you want to quit. Here's the support you've been looking for".
Fortunately "Kill the Can" is fairly self descriptive, especially when the stranger either has a fatty in, or is buying a can.
Again, I was too lazy to actually follow through and do it.
I also believe that anyone who is more than about five years (or less?) removed from the beginning of their addiction wants to quit.
I think it's a great idea. There's actually a bunch of places you can get business cards made up pretty cheap, I think Vistaprint offers like 500 for 10 bucks or something. All you would have to do is the initial design template then save it on a dropbox. Anyone who wants their own cards can then just grab the template, upload to wherever they want to get them printed and pay for it themself.
I just really thought it would be a good idea but wasn't exactly sure how to move on it. Wasn't sure if the Admins would want to handle it, or if they have thought about it and have reasons why they don't want to?
Not sure, just wanted to post it up and see what people thought.
This idea has been kicked around numerous times. There actually used to be a template somewhere (where, exactly, I don't know) for just such a thing.
It's encouraging to see new quitters take such a vested interest and want to bring others to freedom.
I think it's a wonderful idea! Make em, I'll buy some and pass them out in my neck of the woods.
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I'm also a noob.
I had the exact same thought maybe a month ago (now 68 days quit). There was a dude in line behind me who bought a can of Cope. I thought I should say something to him (I didn't), or I wished I had a card I could just hand him.
The cards wouldn't necessarily have to be "official" or "KTC sanctioned". All you need is some sheets of card stock, MS Word/Publisher/even Power Point would work (or the Corel suite), a printer, and a paper cutter. Or you can buy pre-perforated card stock.
Type out the URL, and a brief description, and something like "You know you want to quit. Here's the support you've been looking for".
Fortunately "Kill the Can" is fairly self descriptive, especially when the stranger either has a fatty in, or is buying a can.
Again, I was too lazy to actually follow through and do it.
I also believe that anyone who is more than about five years (or less?) removed from the beginning of their addiction wants to quit.
I think it's a great idea. There's actually a bunch of places you can get business cards made up pretty cheap, I think Vistaprint offers like 500 for 10 bucks or something. All you would have to do is the initial design template then save it on a dropbox. Anyone who wants their own cards can then just grab the template, upload to wherever they want to get them printed and pay for it themself.
I just really thought it would be a good idea but wasn't exactly sure how to move on it. Wasn't sure if the Admins would want to handle it, or if they have thought about it and have reasons why they don't want to?
Not sure, just wanted to post it up and see what people thought.
This idea has been kicked around numerous times. There actually used to be a template somewhere (where, exactly, I don't know) for just such a thing.
It's encouraging to see new quitters take such a vested interest and want to bring others to freedom.
I think it's a wonderful idea! Make em, I'll buy some and pass them out in my neck of the woods.
I would have generic downloadable file that people can print at their own expense/manner. In addition, I would include your username and encourage the recipient to reach out when they do make the move. Probably would be more likely to do so knowing they already have a connection.
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Born and raised in the Washington D.C. suburbs. Strong family, older brother and a younger brother. Parents married 30 years.
Turning 25 in April. Played baseball my whole life, including college ball. Married my high school sweetheart last June.
I am a Financial Planner, wife is a school teacher.
I had dipped since I was 15. I was always a really good baseball player and consequently I played on teams 2-3 years older than I was for most of my life. This meant when all the kids were turning 18 and legally allowed to buy dip, chaw, chew, snuff, or my all-time favorite, "chow-tow"--I was a skinny impressionable 15 year old. When the cans got passed around the bench and stopped at me, do I pass it on by? No, like a moron I want to fit in and I take some.
The rest as they say is history.. Almost a full decade of escalating use. Hiding it entirely from most, and lying about the frequency of use to the rest. I knew the stuff was bad for me, everyone does, problem was--I liked it. I enjoyed running out onto the field on a sunny day to shag fly balls and throwing a chaw-dog in. I loved turning on a movie in my college dorm with some ball players and putting a lip in. Post-meal dip? Don't mind if I do. 6 hour bus-ride for games? Kill a tin each way. I dipped anything. Pouches, flavors, brands, cuts, anything. Eventually I moved mostly to Skoal Mint pouches and would routinely throw 5 or 6 pouches in at a time. Killed 2 tins a day easy.
I have stopped dipping cold turkey for 11 weeks off of a bet with a professor simply to prove I could stop whenever I wanted. I have had the occasional scare with a sore or stopped a week before the dentist. People would tell me all the time I should quit, and I always told them I would. When I go to College. When I graduate and stop playing ball. When I marry my fiance. Always pushing it off.
Recently I realized I don't enjoy it anymore. Its disgusting. Its unhealthy. Its dishonest. Its expensive. Its a master.
After that realization that I don't like it anymore, almost like a light switch the severity of my addiction really hit me hard. I needed to make the decision. I finally wanted to quit with every fiber of my being. No longer was any of it due to pressure, outside opinions, or stupid bets with professors. This was all me. I wanted it. I threw away the tin and a half that I had left. I made a run for some gum, mints, and jolly ranchers--told a few close friends and family--and I quit.
Every day the last 5 days I have thought about dip, and then I have remade the decision to quit. It has sucked but in another way I am as excited about this as virtually anything else I've ever done in my entire life.
Working on Day 5 with y'all today. Praying for the guys and gals on this site.
Josh
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Born and raised in the Washington D.C. suburbs. Strong family, older brother and a younger brother. Parents married 30 years.
Turning 25 in April. Played baseball my whole life, including college ball. Married my high school sweetheart last June.
I am a Financial Planner, wife is a school teacher.
I had dipped since I was 15. I was always a really good baseball player and consequently I played on teams 2-3 years older than I was for most of my life. This meant when all the kids were turning 18 and legally allowed to buy dip, chaw, chew, snuff, or my all-time favorite, "chow-tow"--I was a skinny impressionable 15 year old. When the cans got passed around the bench and stopped at me, do I pass it on by? No, like a moron I want to fit in and I take some.
The rest as they say is history.. Almost a full decade of escalating use. Hiding it entirely from most, and lying about the frequency of use to the rest. I knew the stuff was bad for me, everyone does, problem was--I liked it. I enjoyed running out onto the field on a sunny day to shag fly balls and throwing a chaw-dog in. I loved turning on a movie in my college dorm with some ball players and putting a lip in. Post-meal dip? Don't mind if I do. 6 hour bus-ride for games? Kill a tin each way. I dipped anything. Pouches, flavors, brands, cuts, anything. Eventually I moved mostly to Skoal Mint pouches and would routinely throw 5 or 6 pouches in at a time. Killed 2 tins a day easy.
I have stopped dipping cold turkey for 11 weeks off of a bet with a professor simply to prove I could stop whenever I wanted. I have had the occasional scare with a sore or stopped a week before the dentist. People would tell me all the time I should quit, and I always told them I would. When I go to College. When I graduate and stop playing ball. When I marry my fiance. Always pushing it off.
Recently I realized I don't enjoy it anymore. Its disgusting. Its unhealthy. Its dishonest. Its expensive. Its a master.
After that realization that I don't like it anymore, almost like a light switch the severity of my addiction really hit me hard. I needed to make the decision. I finally wanted to quit with every fiber of my being. No longer was any of it due to pressure, outside opinions, or stupid bets with professors. This was all me. I wanted it. I threw away the tin and a half that I had left. I made a run for some gum, mints, and jolly ranchers--told a few close friends and family--and I quit.
Every day the last 5 days I have thought about dip, and then I have remade the decision to quit. It has sucked but in another way I am as excited about this as virtually anything else I've ever done in my entire life.
Working on Day 5 with y'all today. Praying for the guys and gals on this site.
Josh
Josh,
First off, glad to have you here. Also, glad that you have the right mindset. Nicotine IS a master to which we all have been slaves. But that is our life no more. You have to develop a hate of nicotine and all that it stands for (Cancer, making us slaves, depriving us of our lives and those in it who matter, etc). Your "quits" before were stoppages. Plain and simple. Quitting means that nicotine is not an option. That's the mindset here and it works.
I see you've already posted roll; that's huge! Posting roll should be done at the beginning of your day every day so that using nicotine in any form is off the table for the day (no patch, no gum, no dip/cigarettes/leaf/cigars/vape/whatever).
Get involved in your quit group and start PM-ing quitters there to exchange phone numbers so you can expand your web of accountability.
Four days on your own is incredible, but you're not fighting alone anymore. This forum is only as useful as you allow it to be. Get involved and own this quit.
Proud to quit with you.
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Born and raised in the Washington D.C. suburbs. Strong family, older brother and a younger brother. Parents married 30 years.
Turning 25 in April. Played baseball my whole life, including college ball. Married my high school sweetheart last June.
I am a Financial Planner, wife is a school teacher.
I had dipped since I was 15. I was always a really good baseball player and consequently I played on teams 2-3 years older than I was for most of my life. This meant when all the kids were turning 18 and legally allowed to buy dip, chaw, chew, snuff, or my all-time favorite, "chow-tow"--I was a skinny impressionable 15 year old. When the cans got passed around the bench and stopped at me, do I pass it on by? No, like a moron I want to fit in and I take some.
The rest as they say is history.. Almost a full decade of escalating use. Hiding it entirely from most, and lying about the frequency of use to the rest. I knew the stuff was bad for me, everyone does, problem was--I liked it. I enjoyed running out onto the field on a sunny day to shag fly balls and throwing a chaw-dog in. I loved turning on a movie in my college dorm with some ball players and putting a lip in. Post-meal dip? Don't mind if I do. 6 hour bus-ride for games? Kill a tin each way. I dipped anything. Pouches, flavors, brands, cuts, anything. Eventually I moved mostly to Skoal Mint pouches and would routinely throw 5 or 6 pouches in at a time. Killed 2 tins a day easy.
I have stopped dipping cold turkey for 11 weeks off of a bet with a professor simply to prove I could stop whenever I wanted. I have had the occasional scare with a sore or stopped a week before the dentist. People would tell me all the time I should quit, and I always told them I would. When I go to College. When I graduate and stop playing ball. When I marry my fiance. Always pushing it off.
Recently I realized I don't enjoy it anymore. Its disgusting. Its unhealthy. Its dishonest. Its expensive. Its a master.
After that realization that I don't like it anymore, almost like a light switch the severity of my addiction really hit me hard. I needed to make the decision. I finally wanted to quit with every fiber of my being. No longer was any of it due to pressure, outside opinions, or stupid bets with professors. This was all me. I wanted it. I threw away the tin and a half that I had left. I made a run for some gum, mints, and jolly ranchers--told a few close friends and family--and I quit.
Every day the last 5 days I have thought about dip, and then I have remade the decision to quit. It has sucked but in another way I am as excited about this as virtually anything else I've ever done in my entire life.
Working on Day 5 with y'all today. Praying for the guys and gals on this site.
Josh
Josh,
First off, glad to have you here. Also, glad that you have the right mindset. Nicotine IS a master to which we all have been slaves. But that is our life no more. You have to develop a hate of nicotine and all that it stands for (Cancer, making us slaves, depriving us of our lives and those in it who matter, etc). Your "quits" before were stoppages. Plain and simple. Quitting means that nicotine is not an option. That's the mindset here and it works.
I see you've already posted roll; that's huge! Posting roll should be done at the beginning of your day every day so that using nicotine in any form is off the table for the day (no patch, no gum, no dip/cigarettes/leaf/cigars/vape/whatever).
Get involved in your quit group and start PM-ing quitters there to exchange phone numbers so you can expand your web of accountability.
Four days on your own is incredible, but you're not fighting alone anymore. This forum is only as useful as you allow it to be. Get involved and own this quit.
Proud to quit with you.
Monster--Appreciate the reply.
I am so thankful for the folks who created this site and those active who make it such a safe and real place.
Proud to be here.
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Josh baseball got a lot of us....fucking ridiculous pastime. For the life of me I have no clue how the two are tied together. Quitting is hard, shitty work. But you can do it, we know because we did it. Read you intro as often as you can. It helps to know how you feel the day you quit. Stay strong and power through each day. It will get easier.
Born and raised in the Washington D.C. suburbs. Strong family, older brother and a younger brother. Parents married 30 years.
Turning 25 in April. Played baseball my whole life, including college ball. Married my high school sweetheart last June.
I am a Financial Planner, wife is a school teacher.
I had dipped since I was 15. I was always a really good baseball player and consequently I played on teams 2-3 years older than I was for most of my life. This meant when all the kids were turning 18 and legally allowed to buy dip, chaw, chew, snuff, or my all-time favorite, "chow-tow"--I was a skinny impressionable 15 year old. When the cans got passed around the bench and stopped at me, do I pass it on by? No, like a moron I want to fit in and I take some.
The rest as they say is history.. Almost a full decade of escalating use. Hiding it entirely from most, and lying about the frequency of use to the rest. I knew the stuff was bad for me, everyone does, problem was--I liked it. I enjoyed running out onto the field on a sunny day to shag fly balls and throwing a chaw-dog in. I loved turning on a movie in my college dorm with some ball players and putting a lip in. Post-meal dip? Don't mind if I do. 6 hour bus-ride for games? Kill a tin each way. I dipped anything. Pouches, flavors, brands, cuts, anything. Eventually I moved mostly to Skoal Mint pouches and would routinely throw 5 or 6 pouches in at a time. Killed 2 tins a day easy.
I have stopped dipping cold turkey for 11 weeks off of a bet with a professor simply to prove I could stop whenever I wanted. I have had the occasional scare with a sore or stopped a week before the dentist. People would tell me all the time I should quit, and I always told them I would. When I go to College. When I graduate and stop playing ball. When I marry my fiance. Always pushing it off.
Recently I realized I don't enjoy it anymore. Its disgusting. Its unhealthy. Its dishonest. Its expensive. Its a master.
After that realization that I don't like it anymore, almost like a light switch the severity of my addiction really hit me hard. I needed to make the decision. I finally wanted to quit with every fiber of my being. No longer was any of it due to pressure, outside opinions, or stupid bets with professors. This was all me. I wanted it. I threw away the tin and a half that I had left. I made a run for some gum, mints, and jolly ranchers--told a few close friends and family--and I quit.
Every day the last 5 days I have thought about dip, and then I have remade the decision to quit. It has sucked but in another way I am as excited about this as virtually anything else I've ever done in my entire life.
Working on Day 5 with y'all today. Praying for the guys and gals on this site.
Josh
Josh,
First off, glad to have you here. Also, glad that you have the right mindset. Nicotine IS a master to which we all have been slaves. But that is our life no more. You have to develop a hate of nicotine and all that it stands for (Cancer, making us slaves, depriving us of our lives and those in it who matter, etc). Your "quits" before were stoppages. Plain and simple. Quitting means that nicotine is not an option. That's the mindset here and it works.
I see you've already posted roll; that's huge! Posting roll should be done at the beginning of your day every day so that using nicotine in any form is off the table for the day (no patch, no gum, no dip/cigarettes/leaf/cigars/vape/whatever).
Get involved in your quit group and start PM-ing quitters there to exchange phone numbers so you can expand your web of accountability.
Four days on your own is incredible, but you're not fighting alone anymore. This forum is only as useful as you allow it to be. Get involved and own this quit.
Proud to quit with you.
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Josh baseball got a lot of us....fucking ridiculous pastime. For the life of me I have no clue how the two are tied together. Quitting is hard, shitty work. But you can do it, we know because we did it. Read you intro as often as you can. It helps to know how you feel the day you quit. Stay strong and power through each day. It will get easier.
Born and raised in the Washington D.C. suburbs. Strong family, older brother and a younger brother. Parents married 30 years.
Turning 25 in April. Played baseball my whole life, including college ball. Married my high school sweetheart last June.
I am a Financial Planner, wife is a school teacher.
I had dipped since I was 15. I was always a really good baseball player and consequently I played on teams 2-3 years older than I was for most of my life. This meant when all the kids were turning 18 and legally allowed to buy dip, chaw, chew, snuff, or my all-time favorite, "chow-tow"--I was a skinny impressionable 15 year old. When the cans got passed around the bench and stopped at me, do I pass it on by? No, like a moron I want to fit in and I take some.
The rest as they say is history.. Almost a full decade of escalating use. Hiding it entirely from most, and lying about the frequency of use to the rest. I knew the stuff was bad for me, everyone does, problem was--I liked it. I enjoyed running out onto the field on a sunny day to shag fly balls and throwing a chaw-dog in. I loved turning on a movie in my college dorm with some ball players and putting a lip in. Post-meal dip? Don't mind if I do. 6 hour bus-ride for games? Kill a tin each way. I dipped anything. Pouches, flavors, brands, cuts, anything. Eventually I moved mostly to Skoal Mint pouches and would routinely throw 5 or 6 pouches in at a time. Killed 2 tins a day easy.
I have stopped dipping cold turkey for 11 weeks off of a bet with a professor simply to prove I could stop whenever I wanted. I have had the occasional scare with a sore or stopped a week before the dentist. People would tell me all the time I should quit, and I always told them I would. When I go to College. When I graduate and stop playing ball. When I marry my fiance. Always pushing it off.
Recently I realized I don't enjoy it anymore. Its disgusting. Its unhealthy. Its dishonest. Its expensive. Its a master.
After that realization that I don't like it anymore, almost like a light switch the severity of my addiction really hit me hard. I needed to make the decision. I finally wanted to quit with every fiber of my being. No longer was any of it due to pressure, outside opinions, or stupid bets with professors. This was all me. I wanted it. I threw away the tin and a half that I had left. I made a run for some gum, mints, and jolly ranchers--told a few close friends and family--and I quit.
Every day the last 5 days I have thought about dip, and then I have remade the decision to quit. It has sucked but in another way I am as excited about this as virtually anything else I've ever done in my entire life.
Working on Day 5 with y'all today. Praying for the guys and gals on this site.
Josh
Josh,
First off, glad to have you here. Also, glad that you have the right mindset. Nicotine IS a master to which we all have been slaves. But that is our life no more. You have to develop a hate of nicotine and all that it stands for (Cancer, making us slaves, depriving us of our lives and those in it who matter, etc). Your "quits" before were stoppages. Plain and simple. Quitting means that nicotine is not an option. That's the mindset here and it works.
I see you've already posted roll; that's huge! Posting roll should be done at the beginning of your day every day so that using nicotine in any form is off the table for the day (no patch, no gum, no dip/cigarettes/leaf/cigars/vape/whatever).
Get involved in your quit group and start PM-ing quitters there to exchange phone numbers so you can expand your web of accountability.
Four days on your own is incredible, but you're not fighting alone anymore. This forum is only as useful as you allow it to be. Get involved and own this quit.
Proud to quit with you.
Wow. That's weird. Our text is reversed...
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That is weird...sorry for screwing up your intro. Good luck.
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I pitched a no-hitter in little league but you don't see me bragging.... Great intro ...I quit with you today
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Day 6, wow.. First few days weren't all that tough for me.
But yesterday about dinnertime I felt like I laid my head on some train tracks and got nailed.
It's odd because I have chronic migraines and have had them for my whole life. I have had ER trips they get so bad, etc etc..
And I have had some worse overall migraines for sure, but NEVER have I had one come on as FAST as this one. I swear in no more than 5 seconds it went from 0 to rough. Wife had to drive us home from our hike, it was bad..
I slept fine, but woke up and its back at it.
Silver lining? It hurts bad enough a lip hasn't sounded good to me all morning. hahah
Proud to quit with y'all, and prayers for each one of you.
Josh
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Day 6, wow.. First few days weren't all that tough for me.
But yesterday about dinnertime I felt like I laid my head on some train tracks and got nailed.
It's odd because I have chronic migraines and have had them for my whole life. I have had ER trips they get so bad, etc etc..
And I have had some worse overall migraines for sure, but NEVER have I had one come on as FAST as this one. I swear in no more than 5 seconds it went from 0 to rough. Wife had to drive us home from our hike, it was bad..
I slept fine, but woke up and its back at it.
Silver lining? It hurts bad enough a lip hasn't sounded good to me all morning. hahah
Proud to quit with y'all, and prayers for each one of you.
Josh
Just remember 1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems.
Quit on.
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Day 6, wow.. First few days weren't all that tough for me.
But yesterday about dinnertime I felt like I laid my head on some train tracks and got nailed.
It's odd because I have chronic migraines and have had them for my whole life. I have had ER trips they get so bad, etc etc..
And I have had some worse overall migraines for sure, but NEVER have I had one come on as FAST as this one. I swear in no more than 5 seconds it went from 0 to rough. Wife had to drive us home from our hike, it was bad..
I slept fine, but woke up and its back at it.
Silver lining? It hurts bad enough a lip hasn't sounded good to me all morning. hahah
Proud to quit with y'all, and prayers for each one of you.
Josh
Stay strong Josh!
I know they say that 3 days gets the nicotine out of the system but it took me a much longer time to start feeling "normal" again. Nicotine does a lot of damage and it takes a while to heal. It's going to take time and your addict brain will try to trick you into using nicotine again. That is why we all need help. Not having help is why so many of our quits failed before we got here. You think you can have "just one" but that always leads back to using every day. Making a promise every day and keeping that promise is how to stay quit.
Make this site your life raft. Get here every day to post roll and connect with the folks in your quit group.
I saw that you read my intro. I suggest keeping your own quit log here and reading it back to yourself often. I did that and it really helped me a lot. When I was struggling my own words helped me stay resolved.
Day 6 is bad ass! If you want my digits just send a PM and you can have them. I quit with you today! :)
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Day 6, wow.. First few days weren't all that tough for me.
But yesterday about dinnertime I felt like I laid my head on some train tracks and got nailed.
It's odd because I have chronic migraines and have had them for my whole life. I have had ER trips they get so bad, etc etc..
And I have had some worse overall migraines for sure, but NEVER have I had one come on as FAST as this one. I swear in no more than 5 seconds it went from 0 to rough. Wife had to drive us home from our hike, it was bad..
I slept fine, but woke up and its back at it.
Silver lining? It hurts bad enough a lip hasn't sounded good to me all morning. hahah
Proud to quit with y'all, and prayers for each one of you.
Josh
Stay strong Josh!
I know they say that 3 days gets the nicotine out of the system but it took me a much longer time to start feeling "normal" again. Nicotine does a lot of damage and it takes a while to heal. It's going to take time and your addict brain will try to trick you into using nicotine again. That is why we all need help. Not having help is why so many of our quits failed before we got here. You think you can have "just one" but that always leads back to using every day. Making a promise every day and keeping that promise is how to stay quit.
Make this site your life raft. Get here every day to post roll and connect with the folks in your quit group.
I saw that you read my intro. I suggest keeping your own quit log here and reading it back to yourself often. I did that and it really helped me a lot. When I was struggling my own words helped me stay resolved.
Day 6 is bad ass! If you want my digits just send a PM and you can have them. I quit with you today! :)
There's a phrase that gets thrown around here that I love..."embrace the suck". Quitting is such a shitty experience, but Everytime you fight through a tough day, or strong urge, or a hazy out of it experience, you are ripping off one tentacle that your addiction has thrown around you. So embrace your shitty days and moments...it means you are winning the war, one battle at a time. keep fighting.
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Day 6, wow.. First few days weren't all that tough for me.
But yesterday about dinnertime I felt like I laid my head on some train tracks and got nailed.
It's odd because I have chronic migraines and have had them for my whole life. I have had ER trips they get so bad, etc etc..
And I have had some worse overall migraines for sure, but NEVER have I had one come on as FAST as this one. I swear in no more than 5 seconds it went from 0 to rough. Wife had to drive us home from our hike, it was bad..
I slept fine, but woke up and its back at it.
Silver lining? It hurts bad enough a lip hasn't sounded good to me all morning. hahah
Proud to quit with y'all, and prayers for each one of you.
Josh
Stay strong Josh!
I know they say that 3 days gets the nicotine out of the system but it took me a much longer time to start feeling "normal" again. Nicotine does a lot of damage and it takes a while to heal. It's going to take time and your addict brain will try to trick you into using nicotine again. That is why we all need help. Not having help is why so many of our quits failed before we got here. You think you can have "just one" but that always leads back to using every day. Making a promise every day and keeping that promise is how to stay quit.
Make this site your life raft. Get here every day to post roll and connect with the folks in your quit group.
I saw that you read my intro. I suggest keeping your own quit log here and reading it back to yourself often. I did that and it really helped me a lot. When I was struggling my own words helped me stay resolved.
Day 6 is bad ass! If you want my digits just send a PM and you can have them. I quit with you today! :)
There's a phrase that gets thrown around here that I love..."embrace the suck". Quitting is such a shitty experience, but Everytime you fight through a tough day, or strong urge, or a hazy out of it experience, you are ripping off one tentacle that your addiction has thrown around you. So embrace your shitty days and moments...it means you are winning the war, one battle at a time. keep fighting.
Just awesome!
You are exactly the kind of inspiration that keep Stranger, Dagranger, and me engaged in these intros. See, between the 3 of us we have about 2,500 days of freedom. Sound pretty amazing, huh? Guess what... We also have a combined 30,000 days of nicotine slavery under our belts.
Each of us was a goddamn mess when we joined. This site and the principal of... brotherhood (making connections, texting, calling, making friends with others going through the same shit you are) + accountability (post roll daily every day when your eyes open up, keep your word) = success... Made the impossible possible. Nicotine can taking a flying leap dude. But what quitting did, and what I wish you could see right now, is that it made life worth living again. You won't believe how much better life will be. You will see how rage and anger crept in when you needed a fix. You'll find more time to spend on what is important to you... Be that family, work, banging some hottie until sweat is flying all over the place... You'll have time for all of this. And you'll appreciate it all a lot more.
You've got some bad ass dudes above me in this thread...I respect the hell out of both of them. Both of them are in my phone. If I were you... I'd get their numbers. These connections are key.
It is an honor to quit with you, sir. If I can ever help shoot me a pm and my number is yours. Be proud of today... Quitting is hard. Only the most bad ass are able to do it. You are part of an elite group.
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This site is truly a blessing. No other word for it.
When I'm struggling, I can come on and read posts that pump me up, get my head right, stay accountable to folks.
When I feel awesome (like today..or shall I say, so far today haha) I can come on and try and share a bit of encouragement with some guys who might be having a much worse day.
This place works.
One day at a time. I quit today.
Josh
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Only thing I pitch nowadays is tents. Its a problem. Constantly problem. Especially in a meeting.
All do to increased blood flow. Nic restricts the blood vessels. More blood flow, more fun.
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Day 12.. Wow.
So this weekend was a huge test. My softball team had our first tournament. All day in the sun, playing ball, with dip everywhere I turned.
I told the guys I had quit and for about a game and a half I was really eyeing a lip. But funny thing is, as the day wore on I missed it much less.
I got to the point where I didn't even notice it much when a can opened and 18 inches from my face a dude packed a fatty.
I made sure I posted roll in the morning before the game and caving wasn't an option. That little action has been a huge help to me, recommitting every morning.
Here is to another day approached with the same mindset and intensity of day 1. No dip. Not today. I promise.
Josh
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Day 12.. Wow.
So this weekend was a huge test. My softball team had our first tournament. All day in the sun, playing ball, with dip everywhere I turned.
I told the guys I had quit and for about a game and a half I was really eyeing a lip. But funny thing is, as the day wore on I missed it much less.
I got to the point where I didn't even notice it much when a can opened and 18 inches from my face a dude packed a fatty.
I made sure I posted roll in the morning before the game and caving wasn't an option. That little action has been a huge help to me, recommitting every morning.
Here is to another day approached with the same mindset and intensity of day 1. No dip. Not today. I promise.
Josh
Nicely done sir.
One day at a time these victories get easier and easier. And instead of feeling like struggles or challenges... They feel like wins!
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Been a while since I posted much. Wanted to a couple of times but have really tried to invest in the folks in our June Platoon and so most of my mental energy and time have gone to our group..
On that side of things though we had a conversation started up about fake chaw and I mentioned I was actually giving it a try for the first time in my quit. Here is what I said:
What is weird is I'm 39 days quit and I have used seeds and gum only.. So I am not exactly sure why I'm curious NOW about fake chew, but whatever--no tobacco or nic-bitch so we'll see what I think..
Funny story though.. I must have been about 2 weeks in, and had the weirdest out of the blue crave--easily the strongest of my whole quit so far. I texted a few guys and got two responses. 1 real. 1 I suspect was mostly a joke.
The real response? Get outside, walk around for 5 minutes--wash your face and keep us posted.
The 95% joke? Irish responds that if all else fails--dump some coffee grounds in my mouth.
No more than 20 minutes after I had laughed at the hilarious text from Irish I was cutting off the top of a K-cup and attempting to pack a lip of coffee grounds. In a suit. In an office.
It was not my best moment, but fock it--stayed quit.
--Anyway, I can't say enough about the guys and gals in June '16. Might not be the largest group but damn we have some studs. Up and down the line I am so proud of each one.
I honestly think I have more people super invested in my individual quit than I can count on two hands. That kind of accountability and brotherhood is what keeps me focused EDD.
Quit on.
Sacksyboy | 39
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Been a while since I posted much. Wanted to a couple of times but have really tried to invest in the folks in our June Platoon and so most of my mental energy and time have gone to our group..
On that side of things though we had a conversation started up about fake chaw and I mentioned I was actually giving it a try for the first time in my quit. Here is what I said:
What is weird is I'm 39 days quit and I have used seeds and gum only.. So I am not exactly sure why I'm curious NOW about fake chew, but whatever--no tobacco or nic-bitch so we'll see what I think..
Funny story though.. I must have been about 2 weeks in, and had the weirdest out of the blue crave--easily the strongest of my whole quit so far. I texted a few guys and got two responses. 1 real. 1 I suspect was mostly a joke.
The real response? Get outside, walk around for 5 minutes--wash your face and keep us posted.
The 95% joke? Irish responds that if all else fails--dump some coffee grounds in my mouth.
No more than 20 minutes after I had laughed at the hilarious text from Irish I was cutting off the top of a K-cup and attempting to pack a lip of coffee grounds. In a suit. In an office.
It was not my best moment, but fock it--stayed quit.
--Anyway, I can't say enough about the guys and gals in June '16. Might not be the largest group but damn we have some studs. Up and down the line I am so proud of each one.
I honestly think I have more people super invested in my individual quit than I can count on two hands. That kind of accountability and brotherhood is what keeps me focused EDD.
Quit on.
Sacksyboy | 39
Sacks. Congrats on 5.5 weeks quit! That's a bad ass accomplishment. I wanted to share a quick story about the fake because I had an interesting experience. When I first quit, I didn't want anything to do with the fake because it just reminded me that I used to pack the real crap in my face for far too long, and I was also a little scared that it would make me want to go back to putting the real stuff back in my face too.
Around day 175 I really had an urge to try the fake. I don't even know the reason or if it was a trigger. I guess I was just curious. So I stopped and grabbed a can of fake. I bought a couple more cans over the next couple weeks, but eventually I realized it wasn't even worth the stop. I probably chewed a total of 3 cans of fake over about a month of time. Just like the real stuff, it didn't do anything for me, but unlike the real stuff, it was a piece of cake to put it down.
The fake is a tool that got many bad ass quitters through some tough times. I haven't seen a story yet on here where a guy couldn't get off the fake. It's a lot easier without all the addictive poison in it. It's a personal choice for each quitter. I'm glad you guys are talking in your group though, keep it going. It helps everybody, not just the guys commenting directly in the forum.
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Been a while since I posted much. Wanted to a couple of times but have really tried to invest in the folks in our June Platoon and so most of my mental energy and time have gone to our group..
On that side of things though we had a conversation started up about fake chaw and I mentioned I was actually giving it a try for the first time in my quit. Here is what I said:
What is weird is I'm 39 days quit and I have used seeds and gum only.. So I am not exactly sure why I'm curious NOW about fake chew, but whatever--no tobacco or nic-bitch so we'll see what I think..
Funny story though.. I must have been about 2 weeks in, and had the weirdest out of the blue crave--easily the strongest of my whole quit so far. I texted a few guys and got two responses. 1 real. 1 I suspect was mostly a joke.
The real response? Get outside, walk around for 5 minutes--wash your face and keep us posted.
The 95% joke? Irish responds that if all else fails--dump some coffee grounds in my mouth.
No more than 20 minutes after I had laughed at the hilarious text from Irish I was cutting off the top of a K-cup and attempting to pack a lip of coffee grounds. In a suit. In an office.
It was not my best moment, but fock it--stayed quit.
--Anyway, I can't say enough about the guys and gals in June '16. Might not be the largest group but damn we have some studs. Up and down the line I am so proud of each one.
I honestly think I have more people super invested in my individual quit than I can count on two hands. That kind of accountability and brotherhood is what keeps me focused EDD.
Quit on.
Sacksyboy | 39
Sacks. Congrats on 5.5 weeks quit! That's a bad ass accomplishment. I wanted to share a quick story about the fake because I had an interesting experience. When I first quit, I didn't want anything to do with the fake because it just reminded me that I used to pack the real crap in my face for far too long, and I was also a little scared that it would make me want to go back to putting the real stuff back in my face too.
Around day 175 I really had an urge to try the fake. I don't even know the reason or if it was a trigger. I guess I was just curious. So I stopped and grabbed a can of fake. I bought a couple more cans over the next couple weeks, but eventually I realized it wasn't even worth the stop. I probably chewed a total of 3 cans of fake over about a month of time. Just like the real stuff, it didn't do anything for me, but unlike the real stuff, it was a piece of cake to put it down.
The fake is a tool that got many bad ass quitters through some tough times. I haven't seen a story yet on here where a guy couldn't get off the fake. It's a lot easier without all the addictive poison in it. It's a personal choice for each quitter. I'm glad you guys are talking in your group though, keep it going. It helps everybody, not just the guys commenting directly in the forum.
I really appreciate the advice, KN.
It was honestly a touch concerning to me at first that I wanted to try some fake. But the more I read (and your comments, too) really helped ease some of my worry. Seems like it isn't completely unprecedented for folks to try fake after being quit a bit without it at first.
I don't live anywhere remotely close to somewhere fake is sold..so I had to order it online. There is honestly a 50/50 shot I don't even open it. Might just leave it in my desk for a rainy quit day.
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Been a while since I posted much. Wanted to a couple of times but have really tried to invest in the folks in our June Platoon and so most of my mental energy and time have gone to our group..
On that side of things though we had a conversation started up about fake chaw and I mentioned I was actually giving it a try for the first time in my quit. Here is what I said:
What is weird is I'm 39 days quit and I have used seeds and gum only.. So I am not exactly sure why I'm curious NOW about fake chew, but whatever--no tobacco or nic-bitch so we'll see what I think..
Funny story though.. I must have been about 2 weeks in, and had the weirdest out of the blue crave--easily the strongest of my whole quit so far. I texted a few guys and got two responses. 1 real. 1 I suspect was mostly a joke.
The real response? Get outside, walk around for 5 minutes--wash your face and keep us posted.
The 95% joke? Irish responds that if all else fails--dump some coffee grounds in my mouth.
No more than 20 minutes after I had laughed at the hilarious text from Irish I was cutting off the top of a K-cup and attempting to pack a lip of coffee grounds. In a suit. In an office.
It was not my best moment, but fock it--stayed quit.
--Anyway, I can't say enough about the guys and gals in June '16. Might not be the largest group but damn we have some studs. Up and down the line I am so proud of each one.
I honestly think I have more people super invested in my individual quit than I can count on two hands. That kind of accountability and brotherhood is what keeps me focused EDD.
Quit on.
Sacksyboy | 39
Sacks. Congrats on 5.5 weeks quit! That's a bad ass accomplishment. I wanted to share a quick story about the fake because I had an interesting experience. When I first quit, I didn't want anything to do with the fake because it just reminded me that I used to pack the real crap in my face for far too long, and I was also a little scared that it would make me want to go back to putting the real stuff back in my face too.
Around day 175 I really had an urge to try the fake. I don't even know the reason or if it was a trigger. I guess I was just curious. So I stopped and grabbed a can of fake. I bought a couple more cans over the next couple weeks, but eventually I realized it wasn't even worth the stop. I probably chewed a total of 3 cans of fake over about a month of time. Just like the real stuff, it didn't do anything for me, but unlike the real stuff, it was a piece of cake to put it down.
The fake is a tool that got many bad ass quitters through some tough times. I haven't seen a story yet on here where a guy couldn't get off the fake. It's a lot easier without all the addictive poison in it. It's a personal choice for each quitter. I'm glad you guys are talking in your group though, keep it going. It helps everybody, not just the guys commenting directly in the forum.
I really appreciate the advice, KN.
It was honestly a touch concerning to me at first that I wanted to try some fake. But the more I read (and your comments, too) really helped ease some of my worry. Seems like it isn't completely unprecedented for folks to try fake after being quit a bit without it at first.
I don't live anywhere remotely close to somewhere fake is sold..so I had to order it online. There is honestly a 50/50 shot I don't even open it. Might just leave it in my desk for a rainy quit day.
I haven't tried fake chew yet as I absolutely hated having the real thing against my gums when I quit. If I thought about it too much a dip would make me physically gag. This just shows how powerful nicotine addiction really is - I hated my delivery system for the longest time but I still put that crap in my lip for hours at a time each and every day.
I'm not ruling out ever using fake chew. I could see myself using it the next time I am with some of my friends who still dip. It's a tool like KTC. I bet it tastes awful. LOL.
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bumped a BAMF so I had to pick him up...
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Been a while since I posted much. Wanted to a couple of times but have really tried to invest in the folks in our June Platoon and so most of my mental energy and time have gone to our group..
On that side of things though we had a conversation started up about fake chaw and I mentioned I was actually giving it a try for the first time in my quit. Here is what I said:
What is weird is I'm 39 days quit and I have used seeds and gum only.. So I am not exactly sure why I'm curious NOW about fake chew, but whatever--no tobacco or nic-bitch so we'll see what I think..
Funny story though.. I must have been about 2 weeks in, and had the weirdest out of the blue crave--easily the strongest of my whole quit so far. I texted a few guys and got two responses. 1 real. 1 I suspect was mostly a joke.
The real response? Get outside, walk around for 5 minutes--wash your face and keep us posted.
The 95% joke? Irish responds that if all else fails--dump some coffee grounds in my mouth.
No more than 20 minutes after I had laughed at the hilarious text from Irish I was cutting off the top of a K-cup and attempting to pack a lip of coffee grounds. In a suit. In an office.
It was not my best moment, but fock it--stayed quit.
--Anyway, I can't say enough about the guys and gals in June '16. Might not be the largest group but damn we have some studs. Up and down the line I am so proud of each one.
I honestly think I have more people super invested in my individual quit than I can count on two hands. That kind of accountability and brotherhood is what keeps me focused EDD.
Quit on.
Sacksyboy | 39
Sacks. Congrats on 5.5 weeks quit! That's a bad ass accomplishment. I wanted to share a quick story about the fake because I had an interesting experience. When I first quit, I didn't want anything to do with the fake because it just reminded me that I used to pack the real crap in my face for far too long, and I was also a little scared that it would make me want to go back to putting the real stuff back in my face too.
Around day 175 I really had an urge to try the fake. I don't even know the reason or if it was a trigger. I guess I was just curious. So I stopped and grabbed a can of fake. I bought a couple more cans over the next couple weeks, but eventually I realized it wasn't even worth the stop. I probably chewed a total of 3 cans of fake over about a month of time. Just like the real stuff, it didn't do anything for me, but unlike the real stuff, it was a piece of cake to put it down.
The fake is a tool that got many bad ass quitters through some tough times. I haven't seen a story yet on here where a guy couldn't get off the fake. It's a lot easier without all the addictive poison in it. It's a personal choice for each quitter. I'm glad you guys are talking in your group though, keep it going. It helps everybody, not just the guys commenting directly in the forum.
I really appreciate the advice, KN.
It was honestly a touch concerning to me at first that I wanted to try some fake. But the more I read (and your comments, too) really helped ease some of my worry. Seems like it isn't completely unprecedented for folks to try fake after being quit a bit without it at first.
I don't live anywhere remotely close to somewhere fake is sold..so I had to order it online. There is honestly a 50/50 shot I don't even open it. Might just leave it in my desk for a rainy quit day.
I haven't tried fake chew yet as I absolutely hated having the real thing against my gums when I quit. If I thought about it too much a dip would make me physically gag. This just shows how powerful nicotine addiction really is - I hated my delivery system for the longest time but I still put that crap in my lip for hours at a time each and every day.
I'm not ruling out ever using fake chew. I could see myself using it the next time I am with some of my friends who still dip. It's a tool like KTC. I bet it tastes awful. LOL.
Whatever works for you is what you need to do for now. As long as you're keeping nicotine out of your face, you're winning. Everything else (weight gain, fake, seeds, gum, etc.) will pass. Do whatever you have to do for right now as long as it doesn't involve nicotine. I promise you that freedom is coming. I promise you that in the not so distant future you will have this overwhelming sense of accomplishment for successfully ridding yourself of that poison for ____ number of days. It is truly life changing.
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Been a while since I posted much. Wanted to a couple of times but have really tried to invest in the folks in our June Platoon and so most of my mental energy and time have gone to our group..
On that side of things though we had a conversation started up about fake chaw and I mentioned I was actually giving it a try for the first time in my quit. Here is what I said:
What is weird is I'm 39 days quit and I have used seeds and gum only.. So I am not exactly sure why I'm curious NOW about fake chew, but whatever--no tobacco or nic-bitch so we'll see what I think..
Funny story though.. I must have been about 2 weeks in, and had the weirdest out of the blue crave--easily the strongest of my whole quit so far. I texted a few guys and got two responses. 1 real. 1 I suspect was mostly a joke.
The real response? Get outside, walk around for 5 minutes--wash your face and keep us posted.
The 95% joke? Irish responds that if all else fails--dump some coffee grounds in my mouth.
No more than 20 minutes after I had laughed at the hilarious text from Irish I was cutting off the top of a K-cup and attempting to pack a lip of coffee grounds. In a suit. In an office.
It was not my best moment, but fock it--stayed quit.
--Anyway, I can't say enough about the guys and gals in June '16. Might not be the largest group but damn we have some studs. Up and down the line I am so proud of each one.
I honestly think I have more people super invested in my individual quit than I can count on two hands. That kind of accountability and brotherhood is what keeps me focused EDD.
Quit on.
Sacksyboy | 39
Sacks. Congrats on 5.5 weeks quit! That's a bad ass accomplishment. I wanted to share a quick story about the fake because I had an interesting experience. When I first quit, I didn't want anything to do with the fake because it just reminded me that I used to pack the real crap in my face for far too long, and I was also a little scared that it would make me want to go back to putting the real stuff back in my face too.
Around day 175 I really had an urge to try the fake. I don't even know the reason or if it was a trigger. I guess I was just curious. So I stopped and grabbed a can of fake. I bought a couple more cans over the next couple weeks, but eventually I realized it wasn't even worth the stop. I probably chewed a total of 3 cans of fake over about a month of time. Just like the real stuff, it didn't do anything for me, but unlike the real stuff, it was a piece of cake to put it down.
The fake is a tool that got many bad ass quitters through some tough times. I haven't seen a story yet on here where a guy couldn't get off the fake. It's a lot easier without all the addictive poison in it. It's a personal choice for each quitter. I'm glad you guys are talking in your group though, keep it going. It helps everybody, not just the guys commenting directly in the forum.
I really appreciate the advice, KN.
It was honestly a touch concerning to me at first that I wanted to try some fake. But the more I read (and your comments, too) really helped ease some of my worry. Seems like it isn't completely unprecedented for folks to try fake after being quit a bit without it at first.
I don't live anywhere remotely close to somewhere fake is sold..so I had to order it online. There is honestly a 50/50 shot I don't even open it. Might just leave it in my desk for a rainy quit day.
I haven't tried fake chew yet as I absolutely hated having the real thing against my gums when I quit. If I thought about it too much a dip would make me physically gag. This just shows how powerful nicotine addiction really is - I hated my delivery system for the longest time but I still put that crap in my lip for hours at a time each and every day.
I'm not ruling out ever using fake chew. I could see myself using it the next time I am with some of my friends who still dip. It's a tool like KTC. I bet it tastes awful. LOL.
Whatever works for you is what you need to do for now. As long as you're keeping nicotine out of your face, you're winning. Everything else (weight gain, fake, seeds, gum, etc.) will pass. Do whatever you have to do for right now as long as it doesn't involve nicotine. I promise you that freedom is coming. I promise you that in the not so distant future you will have this overwhelming sense of accomplishment for successfully ridding yourself of that poison for ____ number of days. It is truly life changing.
Sparks in HERE....
And a bunch of em.
Iron sharpening Iron.
EDD ODAAT.
Great Intro Sacks.
Made my quit stronger today.
Thank you sir.
Rawls 525
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Some news:
1. I have not yet received my first dip dream. And when I say received, well.. you know what I mean.
2. I watched the HBO documentary on Scientology this weekend. Uhh...woof. All I can say. W-O-O-F.
3. I tried fake for the first time.
I had some anxiety that somehow it would turn my brain off and I would "Walking Dead" my way to the gas station and have a dip in my mouth faster than you can say KAZOO. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ChpmKkWBb4w)
Fortunately that didn't happen. All that happened is I tried some fake.. It was fine. I took it out. I haven't had another. Boring..like the June Platoon.
Oh, and I'm a tortured Capitals fan. So if you see me bite a head or two off this week, it is because of the fact that the Lord (though He loves me unconditionally) does not see fit that I see a team get past the second round of the playoffs. He has a plan.. it just currently involved me softly sobbing in the corner on my bedroom closet with Coldplay playing in the background.
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Post in June just now, figured I'd share here too..
We had some folks with some majority shitty weeks in here. I'm hoping the weekend had a bright spot or two, but its “funk” territory for us so its possible the weekend for those with rough weeks sucked a ton too. Just trying to remind myself of two things constantly.
1. Nicotine will not solve our problems. For years and even decades we consciously or subconsciously would grab a can when pissed or disappointed. Did it ever solve our problem? Of course not. When we finished a massive cat turd and removed it, our problem stayed. Nicotine fixes NOTHING. In a sense we were almost cowardly for all those years. Instead of facing our issues or working on the problems, we would dive into a can and try to ignore the world. We are all now learning how to get through life's curveballs and gut punches without the can. And while I'm no where near a vet, I have realized that the majority of caves come with excuses involving problems in our lives. Sure—some are intoxicated camping trips or bachelor parties where it “just happened”. But I would bet that over 50% of caves have some tie back to a problem or issue in our life that we think the can will make better. And it never works. All that ends up happening is a shitty feeling after breaking your word, realizing you’re back on Day 1, and the can did nothing to solve your problem. You wake up the next morning realizing you have to answer the three questions and the pit in your stomach grows when you realize the shit you though the can would help is still there and now must be dealt with while trying to start a new quit. Nicotine can’t make your problems go away.
Bringing me to the second thing IÂ’ve been constantly reminding myself..
2. You will never regret quitting. You will always regret caving. So many of us have attempted a quit and failed. That feeling when you realize you were a loser and screwed up another attempted quit is the worst. Whether you get the feeling 5 minutes after inserting the first lip, or you get it 3 years after you caved—you will always regret that decision to go back to being a slave. However, there also probably is not a single quitter here who hasn’t faced a BAD crave, and somehow beat the nic bitch on the brow as said “no thank you”. The feeling after a bad cave passes and you realize you beat it, you are still on “day _”, same quit group family, another strand of slavery broken.. damn that feels great.
Anyway, those are two pillars of truth that I’ve seen around here a bunch that have really resonated with me. I have tried to drill them into my brain every chance I get. And as we creep closer to the HOF train leaving the station—I felt like sharing.
Digits are a PM away for anyone who doesnÂ’t have them. (Not just June, but any KTC quitter!) Love yÂ’all.
Quit on!
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Congrats on 200 sacksy love setting you around these halls every day.
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Congrats on 200 sacksy love setting you around these halls every day.
Most. Excellent!
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Congrats on 200 sacksy love setting you around these halls every day.
Most. Excellent!
Congrats on your 200 Sacksy!
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Congrats on your 1 year quit Sacksyboy. 3/18.
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Congrats on your 1 year quit Sacksyboy. 3/18.
Just read your intro and your timeline. I would love to hear how you are doing today! Great write ups!
Congrats on your 1 year! I appreciate you leading the way!
bokie
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Congrats on your 1 year quit Sacksyboy. 3/18.
Just read your intro and your timeline. I would love to hear how you are doing today! Great write ups!
Congrats on your 1 year! I appreciate you leading the way!
bokie
One year is huge.
Keep throwing the sword.
I quit with you.
Rawls 852