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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: apogeeammo on January 03, 2014, 02:57:00 PM
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I waited until the third day to post so I could make sure I really meant it this time. Mainly because you guys are mean as shit to someone who posts first day and then doesn't go post roll :blink:
So by posting this introduction I'm saying I'm here and I'm ready for you bastards to help me get through the tough times ahead 'Finger'
My name is Jeff and I dipped for 30 years before quitting on 12/31/2013 at 12:31pm (seriously spit out the last dip at that time!)
I have figured out how to post roll today and have done so.
I am deep in the fog and feel like I'm slightly drunk or high right now. I've been trying to sleep as much as possible so I won't know how bad I feel. The biggest issue I've had is this time warp I seem to be in where hours pass by and then I look at the clock and its only been a few minutes.
I'm here and I'm committed to NO NICOTINE!
Apogeeammo 'Remshot'
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Great choice and welcome to KTC. From the tone of you post it sounds like you are doing this right...cold turkey and full-on fog. Well done.
As for being "mean," I guess we are to some people...you know, those people who are full of shit about actually quitting but want to come on here and tell us how their methods works despite the fact that they are still using nicotine?!! Sounds like you're not one of those. Congrats!
As for us bastards...we're here for you and support you 100%. But we can't do this for you. Nobody can do this for anybody else. It is just you and the Nic Bitch...toe to toe. We're here to support one another in the struggle to gain control of our nic additions. Sounds like you're doing it right and you're in the right place. Welcome to freedom, brother!
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I waited until the third day to post so I could make sure I really meant it this time. Mainly because you guys are mean as shit to someone who posts first day and then doesn't go post roll :blink:
So by posting this introduction I'm saying I'm here and I'm ready for you bastards to help me get through the tough times ahead 'Finger'
My name is Jeff and I dipped for 30 years before quitting on 12/31/2013 at 12:31pm (seriously spit out the last dip at that time!)
I have figured out how to post roll today and have done so.
I am deep in the fog and feel like I'm slightly drunk or high right now. I've been trying to sleep as much as possible so I won't know how bad I feel. The biggest issue I've had is this time warp I seem to be in where hours pass by and then I look at the clock and its only been a few minutes.
I'm here and I'm committed to NO NICOTINE!
Apogeeammo 'Remshot'
Hey apogee. I spent my first three days eating jolly ranchers and taking Tylenol pm. I chewed for 23 years. I didn't think I could quit. I had tried. Believe me when I tell you that lots of us ahead of you have done it and you can too.
Read the welcome info. The read the hall of fame posts. Stay online and read read read. Get phone numbers. I have a group of 8 who we all text back and forth. Pm me and I'll give you my number.
Figuring out that many of us have gone through the exact same stuff saved my ass. If he could quit so could I.
Jolly ranchers. Atomic fireballs and smokey mountain fake chew. I've quit the jolly ranchers and the fire balls. I still use the fake stuff. It saved me. You can order a sampler of 5 or 10 from their website. Free except for shipping. Walmart sells it too.
The first bit will suck. Fog. Lethargy. Anger. Little nic bitch lies and whispers. Drink lots of water. Find an activity to sink into. Sleep. I used Tylenol pm and NyQuil every night the first week. My son still laughs about the mound of jolly rancher wrappers in front of the computer.
Stay strong and stay on here. You can quit. Just quit one day at a time. You can do anything for one day. Then I'll do it with you tomorrow.
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I waited until the third day to post so I could make sure I really meant it this time. Mainly because you guys are mean as shit to someone who posts first day and then doesn't go post roll :blink:
So by posting this introduction I'm saying I'm here and I'm ready for you bastards to help me get through the tough times ahead 'Finger'
My name is Jeff and I dipped for 30 years before quitting on 12/31/2013 at 12:31pm (seriously spit out the last dip at that time!)
I have figured out how to post roll today and have done so.
I am deep in the fog and feel like I'm slightly drunk or high right now. I've been trying to sleep as much as possible so I won't know how bad I feel. The biggest issue I've had is this time warp I seem to be in where hours pass by and then I look at the clock and its only been a few minutes.
I'm here and I'm committed to NO NICOTINE!
Apogeeammo 'Remshot'
Hey apogee. I spent my first three days eating jolly ranchers and taking Tylenol pm. I chewed for 23 years. I didn't think I could quit. I had tried. Believe me when I tell you that lots of us ahead of you have done it and you can too.
Read the welcome info. The read the hall of fame posts. Stay online and read read read. Get phone numbers. I have a group of 8 who we all text back and forth. Pm me and I'll give you my number.
Figuring out that many of us have gone through the exact same stuff saved my ass. If he could quit so could I.
Jolly ranchers. Atomic fireballs and smokey mountain fake chew. I've quit the jolly ranchers and the fire balls. I still use the fake stuff. It saved me. You can order a sampler of 5 or 10 from their website. Free except for shipping. Walmart sells it too.
The first bit will suck. Fog. Lethargy. Anger. Little nic bitch lies and whispers. Drink lots of water. Find an activity to sink into. Sleep. I used Tylenol pm and NyQuil every night the first week. My son still laughs about the mound of jolly rancher wrappers in front of the computer.
Stay strong and stay on here. You can quit. Just quit one day at a time. You can do anything for one day. Then I'll do it with you tomorrow.
We've all been thru the suck and one of the reasons so many of us are still here is we never wanna go thru that b.s. ever again. You can do this. You will do this. This is your opportunity to save yourself from a lifetime of reaching for a can and a spitter 10 times a day so that you can pay somebody to kill you.
This isn't easy, but stick to your commitment ODAAT and you'll make it. Simple as that.
JZ
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I waited until the third day to post so I could make sure I really meant it this time. Mainly because you guys are mean as shit to someone who posts first day and then doesn't go post roll :blink:
So by posting this introduction I'm saying I'm here and I'm ready for you bastards to help me get through the tough times ahead 'Finger'
My name is Jeff and I dipped for 30 years before quitting on 12/31/2013 at 12:31pm (seriously spit out the last dip at that time!)
I have figured out how to post roll today and have done so.
I am deep in the fog and feel like I'm slightly drunk or high right now. I've been trying to sleep as much as possible so I won't know how bad I feel. The biggest issue I've had is this time warp I seem to be in where hours pass by and then I look at the clock and its only been a few minutes.
I'm here and I'm committed to NO NICOTINE!
Apogeeammo 'Remshot'
Hey apogee. I spent my first three days eating jolly ranchers and taking Tylenol pm. I chewed for 23 years. I didn't think I could quit. I had tried. Believe me when I tell you that lots of us ahead of you have done it and you can too.
Read the welcome info. The read the hall of fame posts. Stay online and read read read. Get phone numbers. I have a group of 8 who we all text back and forth. Pm me and I'll give you my number.
Figuring out that many of us have gone through the exact same stuff saved my ass. If he could quit so could I.
Jolly ranchers. Atomic fireballs and smokey mountain fake chew. I've quit the jolly ranchers and the fire balls. I still use the fake stuff. It saved me. You can order a sampler of 5 or 10 from their website. Free except for shipping. Walmart sells it too.
The first bit will suck. Fog. Lethargy. Anger. Little nic bitch lies and whispers. Drink lots of water. Find an activity to sink into. Sleep. I used Tylenol pm and NyQuil every night the first week. My son still laughs about the mound of jolly rancher wrappers in front of the computer.
Stay strong and stay on here. You can quit. Just quit one day at a time. You can do anything for one day. Then I'll do it with you tomorrow.
We've all been thru the suck and one of the reasons so many of us are still here is we never wanna go thru that b.s. ever again. You can do this. You will do this. This is your opportunity to save yourself from a lifetime of reaching for a can and a spitter 10 times a day so that you can pay somebody to kill you.
This isn't easy, but stick to your commitment ODAAT and you'll make it. Simple as that.
JZ
That's some good quitting. Follow the KTC roadmap. You'll do well. Let me know if you need help.
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I waited until the third day to post so I could make sure I really meant it this time. Mainly because you guys are mean as shit to someone who posts first day and then doesn't go post roll :blink:
So by posting this introduction I'm saying I'm here and I'm ready for you bastards to help me get through the tough times ahead 'Finger'
My name is Jeff and I dipped for 30 years before quitting on 12/31/2013 at 12:31pm (seriously spit out the last dip at that time!)
I have figured out how to post roll today and have done so.
I am deep in the fog and feel like I'm slightly drunk or high right now. I've been trying to sleep as much as possible so I won't know how bad I feel. The biggest issue I've had is this time warp I seem to be in where hours pass by and then I look at the clock and its only been a few minutes.
I'm here and I'm committed to NO NICOTINE!
Apogeeammo 'Remshot'
Hey apogee. I spent my first three days eating jolly ranchers and taking Tylenol pm. I chewed for 23 years. I didn't think I could quit. I had tried. Believe me when I tell you that lots of us ahead of you have done it and you can too.
Read the welcome info. The read the hall of fame posts. Stay online and read read read. Get phone numbers. I have a group of 8 who we all text back and forth. Pm me and I'll give you my number.
Figuring out that many of us have gone through the exact same stuff saved my ass. If he could quit so could I.
Jolly ranchers. Atomic fireballs and smokey mountain fake chew. I've quit the jolly ranchers and the fire balls. I still use the fake stuff. It saved me. You can order a sampler of 5 or 10 from their website. Free except for shipping. Walmart sells it too.
The first bit will suck. Fog. Lethargy. Anger. Little nic bitch lies and whispers. Drink lots of water. Find an activity to sink into. Sleep. I used Tylenol pm and NyQuil every night the first week. My son still laughs about the mound of jolly rancher wrappers in front of the computer.
Stay strong and stay on here. You can quit. Just quit one day at a time. You can do anything for one day. Then I'll do it with you tomorrow.
We've all been thru the suck and one of the reasons so many of us are still here is we never wanna go thru that b.s. ever again. You can do this. You will do this. This is your opportunity to save yourself from a lifetime of reaching for a can and a spitter 10 times a day so that you can pay somebody to kill you.
This isn't easy, but stick to your commitment ODAAT and you'll make it. Simple as that.
JZ
That's some good quitting. Follow the KTC roadmap. You'll do well. Let me know if you need help.
Nice start, you are committed. Now hang with it! Don't neglect to reach out if you need help. Start building your network of accountability and support- just about everyone will share their number with you if you ask. We all want you to succeed. I think it helps to learn a lot about what you are fighting, too. Here's a link you might find helpful in that regard...
Why Quit (http://api.viglink.com/api/click?format=go&drKey=1081&loc=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.killthecan.org%2Findex.php%3Fshowtopic%3D9192&v=1&libId=a88623d6-84af-4d23-95db-f569a853856a&out=http%3A%2F%2Fwhyquit.com%2Fwhyquit%2Flinksaaddiction.html&ref=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.killthecan.org%2Findex.php%3Fshowforum%3D25&title=KillTheCan.org%20Online%20Community%20-%3E%20Almost%20there...%20Quit%20Date%20Dec%2031st%202013&txt=http%3A%2F%2Fwhyquit.com%2Fwhyquit%2Flinksaaddiction.html&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13887769499006)
Allright, go get this thing-- just ride it out, you'll make it through the fog and be on your way!
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Congrats on your quit. Now go to Quit Groups and find Per HOF April 2013 and Post Role. One Day at a time. They are only bastards when you do not post role or speak of caving. PM me if you need help.
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Enjoy every second of feeling like the world is an alternate universe. Enjoy every moment of agony. Enjoy each minute of misery. It's the price of freedom and it's worth it. Remember all of this because, at some point, you'll need to be reminded of how nasty this all is so you don't EVER put yourself through it again.
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Thanks to everyone who immediately responded to my introduction. I appreciate it. I'm trying to focus on the good things I'm noticing like the fact that I can ride with someone else to lunch because I don't have to take my car with the bottle in it and the fact that I don't have a little mound of drippings next to the seat of my car.
Anyway, I'll post roll tomorrow for another day!
cowboy
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Just cooked a big old pot of spaghetti and ate dinner with the wife and kids. Got up from the table and could have dipped a whole can at one time. Remembered that cravings last about 3 minutes and came down and got on the site and read a few posts and typed this post and now I'm okay! cowboy
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Just cooked a big old pot of spaghetti and ate dinner with the wife and kids. Got up from the table and could have dipped a whole can at one time. Remembered that cravings last about 3 minutes and came down and got on the site and read a few posts and typed this post and now I'm okay! cowboy
You can do this brother! ODAAT
You get a crave...find a desk drawer, place penis in drawer, slam drawer!!! OUCH.
You get the idea.
Don't fucking dip, do something else...
Walk, run, lift weights, laugh hard, run around the yard singing mary had a little lamb, while rubbing your head!
Whatever it takes to "not" put the poison in your mouth.
You got this!
Cheers.
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OUCH is right! I'll save that suggestion for another day! For now, I'm okay, thanks.
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It always helps me to have a plan. Ok long car ride, bag of jerky to chew on, first baseball game sunflower seeds, feeling edgy work out... you get the idea. We got this shit one day at a time. All Damn Day, proud to quit with you, see you tomorrow.
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I definitely need to add working out as one of my alternatives. Right now my main alternative is eating and let's just say I'm not starting out as a slender person. I will have to find other ways or I will weigh a ton! 'embarrassed'
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I definitely need to add working out as one of my alternatives. Right now my main alternative is eating and let's just say I'm not starting out as a slender person. I will have to find other ways or I will weigh a ton! 'embarrassed'
here is a little tidbit that I learned. It is much easier to shed a few pound than it is to shed cancer.
So yes be quit, but don't beat yourself up too hard on tackling some additional food. I too in my first 120 days packed on 35 pounds (to up over 295).
But as I sit here today at 551 days quit, I have lost 45 pounds since then (below that which I started), and I feel better than I have since college.
so you can do this, remember quit first, then you can work on other aspects of life.
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Nothing I do feels right! My face feels different when I shave, my mouth tastes different brushing my teeth and my skin feels like it belongs to someone else. I'm periodically dizzy and angry. This sucks! 'Finger'
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Nothing I do feels right! My face feels different when I shave, my mouth tastes different brushing my teeth and my skin feels like it belongs to someone else. I'm periodically dizzy and angry. This sucks! 'Finger'
That is why it is referred to as "The Suck" Remember this feeling, you only have to do this one time if you quit for today.
It gets better I promise.
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Nothing I do feels right! My face feels different when I shave, my mouth tastes different brushing my teeth and my skin feels like it belongs to someone else. I'm periodically dizzy and angry. This sucks! 'Finger'
That is why it is referred to as "The Suck" Remember this feeling, you only have to do this one time if you quit for today.
It gets better I promise.
Deep breath my friend as your body is starting to heal. Just like when we feel that itching under that scab when it is healing and it drives us crazy, so too when we heal from poisoning us for so long there will be things that drive us crazy.
hang tight and fight through these times. reach out in your intro and the quit thread as you have. get it off your chest and be wise asking for help.
it will get so much better but you have to believe.
I quit with you today.
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Nothing I do feels right! My face feels different when I shave, my mouth tastes different brushing my teeth and my skin feels like it belongs to someone else. I'm periodically dizzy and angry. This sucks! 'Finger'
That is why it is referred to as "The Suck" Remember this feeling, you only have to do this one time if you quit for today.
It gets better I promise.
Get some cardio, and sip water all day. Don't chug it, sip. you want it to soak in.
It sucks yes, but you will get through it.
Don't let your mind play games with your will either. If the thought "just one" or "I've done well so far, I have this beat" occur, kick it out.
One is too many, and a thousand aren't enough.
Sir Derek Said,Deep breath my friend as your body is starting to heal. Just like when we feel that itching under that scab when it is healing and it drives us crazy, so too when we heal from poisoning us for so long there will be things that drive us crazy.
hang tight and fight through these times. reach out in your intro and the quit thread as you have. get it off your chest and be wise asking for help.
it will get so much better but you have to believe.
I quit with you today.
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Apo,
Nicotine is some nasty stuff. It's a neurotoxin and does a real number on your body and mind. Be patient it gets easier.
You can understand how bad that shit is for you by how horrible you feel right now. They hooked us on a poison and they knew they were doing it. They tailor the drug to make you more likely to become an addict. They advertised that shit on TV during my Saturday Cartoons as a kid. FUCKERS. but I digress.
The worse I felt the madder I got and the stronger my resolve.
They've been selling you poison and lies.
Enough. Get mad.
You can do this.
sM
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When you take off the leash, it's uncomfortable for a bit. Scary at times, in fact. And most will have a tendency to want to put the leash back on, because that's the life you were accustomed to...the leash is what YOU KNOW, and running free is UNKNOWN, therefore rather uncomfortable. This is where you have to have faith in what we are telling you... in what your gut is telling you... in the voice in your head that led you here....that there is a much better way to live. I'm telling you that that feeling is legit. Trust it. Remember it when you weaken. Ask us to remind you about it when you reminisce fondly about the old life. Remember that your old leash represented slavery, not comfort. Congrats on seeing the light. Now keep walking toward it.
And all the congregation says... Amen.
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Dude, you have been killing it and you're on your 5th day. No retreat. No surrender. You are not going back to day 1. You are not going to put yourself through this again. You are not going to cave. Why? because you are a badass quitter and you promised yourself and all of us on roll today that you would not use nicotine. Tomorrow, you will do the sameÂ….and we'll all quit with you again.
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Nothing I do feels right! My face feels different when I shave, my mouth tastes different brushing my teeth and my skin feels like it belongs to someone else. I'm periodically dizzy and angry. This sucks! 'Finger'
Proud of you man. You are doing it right there. That's the feeling that you are doing things right. I even got a buzz. Like a whiskey buzz. I swore I was gonna get pulled over and get a ticket for being under the influence of not one damn thing. Really. Embrace it. Don't forget this feeling. It is definitely the price you have to pay for freedom. And you only want to do it once. When you get free you can get a beer buzz anytime. Quit On !!!
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Nothing I do feels right! My face feels different when I shave, my mouth tastes different brushing my teeth and my skin feels like it belongs to someone else. I'm periodically dizzy and angry. This sucks! 'Finger'
Proud of you man. You are doing it right there. That's the feeling that you are doing things right. I even got a buzz. Like a whiskey buzz. I swore I was gonna get pulled over and get a ticket for being under the influence of not one damn thing. Really. Embrace it. Don't forget this feeling. It is definitely the price you have to pay for freedom. And you only want to do it once. When you get free you can get a beer buzz anytime. Quit On !!!
That's your body finally getting back to normal. Embrace this stuff now because it'll help you later remember you never want to have to go thru this nonsense again. You got this Apo, just stick with it ODAAT.
JZ
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Great reading all of your replies! It really helps! As I was reading them I was thinking "why do I think it would be good?" There were so many times that I just did not want skoal anymore but I'd go get some more anyway! It was nasty and expensive and inconvenient and it got to where it tasted bad and it burned my fucking mouth but I'd go get it like it was the bestthingever!
Fuck that shit MAN! - Jeff Lebowski 'Finger'
Ok, that's off my chest. Thanks for all the support.
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Great reading all of your replies! It really helps! As I was reading them I was thinking "why do I think it would be good?" There were so many times that I just did not want skoal anymore but I'd go get some more anyway! It was nasty and expensive and inconvenient and it got to where it tasted bad and it burned my fucking mouth but I'd go get it like it was the bestthingever!
Fuck that shit MAN! - Jeff Lebowski 'Finger'
Ok, that's off my chest. Thanks for all the support.
A true hatred of the poison will take you far. good job! ( by the way, your avatar scares the shit out of me) :P
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Great reading all of your replies! It really helps! As I was reading them I was thinking "why do I think it would be good?" There were so many times that I just did not want skoal anymore but I'd go get some more anyway! It was nasty and expensive and inconvenient and it got to where it tasted bad and it burned my fucking mouth but I'd go get it like it was the bestthingever!
Fuck that shit MAN! - Jeff Lebowski 'Finger'
Ok, that's off my chest. Thanks for all the support.
A true hatred of the poison will take you far. good job! ( by the way, your avatar scares the shit out of me) :P
Damn right... It won't be good! You don't need this stuff to live. In fact, it will only take from you.
Stay quit today brother!
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Way to go Apogee....congrats on Day 5...you're rolling on a great quit! Keep it up! ZillahCowboy.
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Rdad, thanks for the note about the avatar! I laughed till tears were rolling!
When I sent that picture to my brother after it scared the shit out of me, his reply was "oh good, you found him."
I don't know why but it just cracked me up! 'crackup'
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Welcome to the suck.
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Today has just been one crave after another! As soon as I get out of one for a few minutes the next one starts creeping in! They move on fast but keep coming. I am not liking this at all.
Note to self: no more McDonalds for lunch, I used to cut the after taste with a big ole' dip and without it, this is just adding to the crave!
'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head'
Ok, I feel better now!
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Today has just been one crave after another! As soon as I get out of one for a few minutes the next one starts creeping in! They move on fast but keep coming. I am not liking this at all.
Note to self: no more McDonalds for lunch, I used to cut the after taste with a big ole' dip and without it, this is just adding to the crave!
'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head'
Ok, I feel better now!
Mcdonalds sucks
Quit rules
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Today has just been one crave after another! As soon as I get out of one for a few minutes the next one starts creeping in! They move on fast but keep coming. I am not liking this at all.
Note to self: no more McDonalds for lunch, I used to cut the after taste with a big ole' dip and without it, this is just adding to the crave!
'bang head'Â 'bang head'Â 'bang head'Â 'bang head'
Ok, I feel better now!
Mcdonalds sucks
Quit rules
Keep quitting Today apogeeammo. It gets much better.
I used to love/crave McDonalds fillet o fish....since about day 150 when I tried one without the poison in my body, I can taste the shit that I have been eating for years. No more fillet o fish for me.
Everything will change for the better apogeeammo.
Keep quitting for Today.
Tomorrow isn't real yet.
Today is The Gift...That's why it is called The Present.
You got this! ODAAT.
Awesome 3 days! Awesome!
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Today has just been one crave after another! As soon as I get out of one for a few minutes the next one starts creeping in! They move on fast but keep coming. I am not liking this at all.
Note to self: no more McDonalds for lunch, I used to cut the after taste with a big ole' dip and without it, this is just adding to the crave!
'bang head'Â 'bang head'Â 'bang head'Â 'bang head'
Ok, I feel better now!
Mcdonalds sucks
Quit rules
Keep quitting Today apogeeammo. It gets much better.
I used to love/crave McDonalds fillet o fish....since about day 150 when I tried one without the poison in my body, I can taste the shit that I have been eating for years. No more fillet o fish for me.
Everything will change for the better apogeeammo.
Keep quitting for Today.
Tomorrow isn't real yet.
Today is The Gift...That's why it is called The Present.
You got this! ODAAT.
Awesome 3 days! Awesome!
Hey Man
I'm pretty new too but here are a couple things I have noticed that may help you. First, read as much as you can about our addiction and start to believe that nicotine did nothing for us.
Keep up on this journal here (just like you are doing)as you are going to be feeling better (trust me, you will) and you do not want to forget how crappy this is right now so you don't have to do this again.
Don't ever miss roll call. All you do is keep that promise one day at a time.
Make some friends to lean on and reach out to in time of need. Go to your inbox at the upper right. You got mail.
Keep at it. You are doing this!
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Yesterday was my toughest so far with cravings all day and night. I fought the beast all the way through the BCS championship and then went to sleep to finally kill him!
MADE IT THROUGH ANOTHER DAY WITHOUT NICOTINE! 'Finger' YAY!!!
Feeling much better today! Thanks to Rdad for swapping numbers with me and to 30isenuff for the chuckle about the changing taste of things as your mouth clears up!
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Yesterday was my toughest so far with cravings all day and night. I fought the beast all the way through the BCS championship and then went to sleep to finally kill him!
MADE IT THROUGH ANOTHER DAY WITHOUT NICOTINE! 'Finger' YAY!!!
Feeling much better today! Thanks to Rdad for swapping numbers with me and to 30isenuff for the chuckle about the changing taste of things as your mouth clears up!
Congrats buddy on the week, every crave you conquer the easier this becomes.
Stay the course, one day at a time
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Yesterday was my toughest so far with cravings all day and night. I fought the beast all the way through the BCS championship and then went to sleep to finally kill him!
MADE IT THROUGH ANOTHER DAY WITHOUT NICOTINE!  'Finger' YAY!!!
Feeling much better today! Thanks to Rdad for swapping numbers with me and to 30isenuff for the chuckle about the changing taste of things as your mouth clears up!
Congrats buddy on the week, every crave you conquer the easier this becomes.
Stay the course, one day at a time
Keep chuggin Apo. Things will start to come more naturally as your body adjusts to being "normal" again. Judging from your avatar, you aren't quite "normal," but getting closer everyday!
Proud to be quit with you today bro. I just PM'd you my digits if you ever need anything.
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Yesterday was my toughest so far with cravings all day and night. I fought the beast all the way through the BCS championship and then went to sleep to finally kill him!
MADE IT THROUGH ANOTHER DAY WITHOUT NICOTINE!  'Finger'  YAY!!!
Feeling much better today! Thanks to Rdad for swapping numbers with me and to 30isenuff for the chuckle about the changing taste of things as your mouth clears up!
Congrats buddy on the week, every crave you conquer the easier this becomes.
Stay the course, one day at a time
Keep chuggin Apo. Things will start to come more naturally as your body adjusts to being "normal" again. Judging from your avatar, you aren't quite "normal," but getting closer everyday!
Proud to be quit with you today bro. I just PM'd you my digits if you ever need anything.
That is exactly how you do it! You battle for that day. You won last night.
You can get thru a game like that, then I know you can do it today brother.
QLF today!
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Hey! Yesterday was a good day with not many issues with quitting. Felt pretty good and looking forward to today being a good day quit! B)
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Hey! Yesterday was a good day with not many issues with quitting. Felt pretty good and looking forward to today being a good day quit! B)
You'll get more and more of these kind of days. Own your quit and make sure you never have to start over and go through that suck again. You've got this thing Apo. ODAAT with you.
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Dude! I think somebody else said this too but... your avatar is freakin' me out! I have this thing with clowns anyway. Evil.
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Dude! I think somebody else said this too but... your avatar is freakin' me out! I have this thing with clowns anyway. Evil.
That was me AJ! I'm telling ya! Freaky man. That will scare a crave right outta your head. Clowns suck. Especially little kid ones. 'crackup'
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Dude! I think somebody else said this too but... your avatar is freakin' me out! I have this thing with clowns anyway. Evil.
That was me AJ! I'm telling ya! Freaky man. That will scare a crave right outta your head. Clowns suck. Especially little kid ones. 'crackup'
I watched that damn Poltergeist movie far too young. F'n clowns.
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Dude! I think somebody else said this too but... your avatar is freakin' me out! I have this thing with clowns anyway. Evil.
That was me AJ! I'm telling ya! Freaky man. That will scare a crave right outta your head. Clowns suck. Especially little kid ones. 'crackup'
I watched that damn Poltergeist movie far too young. F'n clowns.
i think that clown is the nic bitch in one of her disguises! Scarrrrey!
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You guys are cracking me up! 'crackup'
And helping me get over an evening crave! 'fireman'
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Today I am just plain pissed. Every little thing is aggravating. 'bang head'
Struggling right now!
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Today I am just plain pissed. Every little thing is aggravating. 'bang head'
Struggling right now!
Just remember that once you've gotten thru this suck you'll never have to do it again. Get a workout in or chew about 6 pieces of double bubble at a time until your jaw hurts.
You got this and you're already thru several days of the suck. It gets better, oh so much better. Gitchur big boy pants on and stick it to the NB. Quit with you today Apo
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Today I am just plain pissed. Every little thing is aggravating. 'bang head'
Struggling right now!
Just remember that once you've gotten thru this suck you'll never have to do it again. Get a workout in or chew about 6 pieces of double bubble at a time until your jaw hurts.
You got this and you're already thru several days of the suck. It gets better, oh so much better. Gitchur big boy pants on and stick it to the NB. Quit with you today Apo
Ammo
You don't know but maybe you could just be pissed. Tell yourself that not everything you feel is caused by quitting. There is too much good that is going to come out of our quitting. Life altering shit that goes beyond just quitting dip. But changing who we are. Don't you fucking dare throw that future away for a lip full of cat shit! Don't forget the last 9 days. You are doing this. Its like the stock market. Ups and downs but a general steady rise to freedom. Just keep going dammit!
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Today I am just plain pissed. Every little thing is aggravating. 'bang head'
Struggling right now!
Just remember that once you've gotten thru this suck you'll never have to do it again. Get a workout in or chew about 6 pieces of double bubble at a time until your jaw hurts.
You got this and you're already thru several days of the suck. It gets better, oh so much better. Gitchur big boy pants on and stick it to the NB. Quit with you today Apo
Ammo
You don't know but maybe you could just be pissed. Tell yourself that not everything you feel is caused by quitting. There is too much good that is going to come out of our quitting. Life altering shit that goes beyond just quitting dip. But changing who we are. Don't you fucking dare throw that future away for a lip full of cat shit! Don't forget the last 9 days. You are doing this. Its like the stock market. Ups and downs but a general steady rise to freedom. Just keep going dammit!
Alright lets go, I'll help you kick the sh*t out of something, we will start with a punching bag and see where it takes us.....
Hey man the fight is strong with you. that means you are winning. Hang tight as these days will happen. And when the consecutive days grow, they still happen but now because of a G D idiot and not the poison.
well done, head high, hands high to protect. Always vigilant, never surrender.
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Thanks to all! I am making it through. Rdad you make a valid point, I had these kinds of days before while using so this probably has nothing to do with the quit!
I also have some non-KTC support that I spent some time with today and she talked me through some of the issues.
I'm all good at this point and feel confident about the rest of the day!
'nutkick'
cowboy
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Thanks to all! I am making it through. Rdad you make a valid point, I had these kinds of days before while using so this probably has nothing to do with the quit!
I also have some non-KTC support that I spent some time with today and she talked me through some of the issues.
I'm all good at this point and feel confident about the rest of the day!
'nutkick'
cowboy
Good for you. She probably gave you all the "support" you needed huh? Just had to work out some aggression I'm sure. 'boob'
'crackup'
Quit with you today bro!
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Thanks to all! I am making it through. Rdad you make a valid point, I had these kinds of days before while using so this probably has nothing to do with the quit!
I also have some non-KTC support that I spent some time with today and she talked me through some of the issues.
I'm all good at this point and feel confident about the rest of the day!Â
'nutkick'
cowboy
Good for you. She probably gave you all the "support" you needed huh? Just had to work out some aggression I'm sure. 'boob'
'crackup'
Quit with you today bro!
That's the thing about being part of an online community that only has a bunch of hardass dudes, everyone immediately goes into the gutter 'flush' when a female is mentioned!
I like it! 'drool'
But unfortunately it was actually only just talking! 'finger point'
Quit with you too!
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Thanks to all! I am making it through. Rdad you make a valid point, I had these kinds of days before while using so this probably has nothing to do with the quit!
I also have some non-KTC support that I spent some time with today and she talked me through some of the issues.
I'm all good at this point and feel confident about the rest of the day!Â
'nutkick'
cowboy
Good for you. She probably gave you all the "support" you needed huh? Just had to work out some aggression I'm sure. 'boob'
'crackup'
Quit with you today bro!
That's the thing about being part of an online community that only has a bunch of hardass dudes, everyone immediately goes into the gutter 'flush' when a female is mentioned!
I like it! 'drool'
But unfortunately it was actually only just talking! 'finger point'
Quit with you too!
You've been warned....I was being relatively tame compared to what the Mods and vets would've done with that one. 'arse'
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Another day quit! Feeling good today!
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Another day quit! Feeling good today!
Apogee...
Congrats on the double digit quit. Day 10 today? Niiiiiice. It's worth the grind every day. I quit with you today!
ZC.
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Hey you are right! Thanks for pointing out a milestone! cowboy
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Yesterday was a good day! I had some crave episodes that I was able to work through on here and by changing my mind. I would not have believed it 11 days ago that coming to a web site and reading about people doing the same thing I'm doing would make a nickel's worth of difference to me but it really does. 'Crazy'
Thanks for quitting with me today!
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Yesterday was a good day! I had some crave episodes that I was able to work through on here and by changing my mind. I would not have believed it 11 days ago that coming to a web site and reading about people doing the same thing I'm doing would make a nickel's worth of difference to me but it really does. 'Crazy'
Thanks for quitting with me today!
Apogee....yes sir, this shit works, it works, it works! QLF every minute, every hour, every day, and drink this Kool-Aid we call KTC. Post roll every day, and know that we are the wings that carry each other through this. Congrats on your 11 days. You go some kinda quit goin' on brother!
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Yesterday was a good day! I had some crave episodes that I was able to work through on here and by changing my mind. I would not have believed it 11 days ago that coming to a web site and reading about people doing the same thing I'm doing would make a nickel's worth of difference to me but it really does. 'Crazy'
Thanks for quitting with me today!
This is what it's all about Apo. Some days are better than others in our personal battles, but the KTC community is strong all day every day and that's why it works. I quit with you today.
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I am glad to be on this side of the weekend! The bitch was strong but the quit was stronger. ;Ironman:
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I am glad to be on this side of the weekend! The bitch was strong but the quit was stronger. ;Ironman:
Amen! Got to keep busy right now and keep the mind occupied...
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I am glad to be on this side of the weekend! The bitch was strong but the quit was stronger. ;Ironman:
Amen! Got to keep busy right now and keep the mind occupied...
The nic bitch is a pile of steaming dog shit. Do you want dog shit in your mouth??
Sorry I'm on a big dog shit kick this morning.
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I am glad to be on this side of the weekend! The bitch was strong but the quit was stronger. ;Ironman:
Amen! Got to keep busy right now and keep the mind occupied...
The nic bitch is a pile of steaming dog shit. Do you want dog shit in your mouth??
Sorry I'm on a big dog shit kick this morning.
this is the mindset that will set you free. it just takes time, but in time you won't think about it anymore. you have my word..peace
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I am glad to be on this side of the weekend! The bitch was strong but the quit was stronger. ;Ironman:
Keep it up man. You're doing it every damn day. Proud to quit with you today.
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I am glad to be on this side of the weekend! The bitch was strong but the quit was stronger. ;Ironman:
Keep it up man. You're doing it every damn day. Proud to quit with you today.
Win Today and and every today. The tough days...make you tougher if you stay quit.
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TWO WEEKS! Feels good to achieve it! Things are less stressfull but still having crave episodes. They come when I would have ALWAYS had a dip like driving home from work, after dinner and going in the bathroom!
I just fight through and get to the other side!
No more nicotine! cowboy
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TWO WEEKS! Feels good to achieve it! Things are less stressfull but still having crave episodes. They come when I would have ALWAYS had a dip like driving home from work, after dinner and going in the bathroom!
I just fight through and get to the other side!
No more nicotine! cowboy
you're doing great.. just keep your focus on the goal.. staying alive.. it gets easier with time, and peace will find you..
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TWO WEEKS! Feels good to achieve it! Things are less stressfull but still having crave episodes. They come when I would have ALWAYS had a dip like driving home from work, after dinner and going in the bathroom!
I just fight through and get to the other side!
No more nicotine! cowboy
Nice work Apo. Two weeks is a big accomplishment. Enjoy it and keep sticking it to the NB ODAAT.
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Jzzy you need to add another two seconds to your gif! I keep watching it but it resets every time! 'help'
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Jzzy you need to add another two seconds to your gif! I keep watching it but it resets every time! 'help'
Sorry your wife wouldn't let me film the whole thing shocker
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Jzzy you need to add another two seconds to your gif! I keep watching it but it resets every time! 'help'
Sorry your wife wouldn't let me film the whole thing shocker
LOL! I knew they looked familiar! 'boob'
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Jzzy you need to add another two seconds to your gif! I keep watching it but it resets every time! 'help'
Sorry your wife wouldn't let me film the whole thing shocker
LOL! I knew they looked familiar! 'boob'
Oh damn, that's funny right there. And by the way, damn fine job of Quit Apogeeammo.
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Jzzy you need to add another two seconds to your gif! I keep watching it but it resets every time! 'help'
Sorry your wife wouldn't let me film the whole thing shocker
LOL! I knew they looked familiar! 'boob'
Oh damn, that's funny right there. And by the way, damn fine job of Quit Apogeeammo.
kstamPFLY has the same avi. It's quite a tease...
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Day 17! I am surviving but still having episodes of REALLY wanting a dip! I have determined that alcohol is not a good way to dampen craves. I had stopped drinking for a long time but have had two nights drinking since I quit skoal. It's almost like I'm telling myself "I gots to have some vice in my life!"
WHY?! 'Crazy'
Put another day together and move forward!
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Day 17! I am surviving but still having episodes of REALLY wanting a dip! I have determined that alcohol is not a good way to dampen craves. I had stopped drinking for a long time but have had two nights drinking since I quit skoal. It's almost like I'm telling myself "I gots to have some vice in my life!"
WHY?! 'Crazy'
Put another day together and move forward!
Apogee...
Days 16~18 form were also a mind mess for me too. Almost back to the foggy " suck "levels of Days 2~4. Don't know what's up with that, but I came out of that latent funk okay a couple days ago. This nic bitch will come after you just when you think things are going good. Hang tough. I quit with you.
ZC.
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Day 17! I am surviving but still having episodes of REALLY wanting a dip! I have determined that alcohol is not a good way to dampen craves. I had stopped drinking for a long time but have had two nights drinking since I quit skoal. It's almost like I'm telling myself "I gots to have some vice in my life!"
WHY?! 'Crazy'
Put another day together and move forward!
Apogee...
Days 16~18 form were also a mind mess for me too. Almost back to the foggy " suck "levels of Days 2~4. Don't know what's up with that, but I came out of that latent funk okay a couple days ago. This nic bitch will come after you just when you think things are going good. Hang tough. I quit with you.
ZC.
Replacing one vice with another is the story of my life. Once I pulled my head out of my arse, I decided my vice would now be life. Without life there are no vices.. exercise will help your fogs/craves.. be sure to keep moving, and it will make you stronger in body most importantly the mind.. peace
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Wow, just tried Smokey Mountain Wintergreen for the first time and it was nice to feel the pull on my gumline again while not feeling guilty about nicotine! It was a pleasant surprise.
Having grown up on the farm and tasted fresh corn though, it was obvious that corn silks was a major ingredient - bleh!
All in all - I recommend it for short term getting by!
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Wow, just tried Smokey Mountain Wintergreen for the first time and it was nice to feel the pull on my gumline again while not feeling guilty about nicotine! It was a pleasant surprise.
Having grown up on the farm and tasted fresh corn though, it was obvious that corn silks was a major ingredient - bleh!
All in all - I recommend it for short term getting by!
Day 2 of Smokey Mountain. It tastes shitty enough that I didn't want it first thing this morning. Went to a gun show and had a dip (of Shitty Mountain) when I got home.
Feeling good with no nicotine but struggling with cravings for the kick! 'drool'
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Wow, just tried Smokey Mountain Wintergreen for the first time and it was nice to feel the pull on my gumline again while not feeling guilty about nicotine! It was a pleasant surprise.
Having grown up on the farm and tasted fresh corn though, it was obvious that corn silks was a major ingredient - bleh!
All in all - I recommend it for short term getting by!
Day 2 of Smokey Mountain. It tastes shitty enough that I didn't want it first thing this morning. Went to a gun show and had a dip (of Shitty Mountain) when I got home.
Feeling good with no nicotine but struggling with cravings for the kick! 'drool'
Jeff, You dipped for 30 years. Keep reading here. Keep quitting for Yourself ODAAT. You don't need the poison, the poison makers needed us. They have lied forever to the world and got away with killing who knows how many.
Study up and learn what nicotine really is...poison.
Rest assured, we are addicts for life. That's okay because we beat the addiction one day at a time for life. It does get much, much better...I promise YOU!
I am free Today with YOU!
I quit with YOU Today!
Be well, be quit, behave.
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Wow, just tried Smokey Mountain Wintergreen for the first time and it was nice to feel the pull on my gumline again while not feeling guilty about nicotine! It was a pleasant surprise.
Having grown up on the farm and tasted fresh corn though, it was obvious that corn silks was a major ingredient - bleh!
All in all - I recommend it for short term getting by!
Day 2 of Smokey Mountain. It tastes shitty enough that I didn't want it first thing this morning. Went to a gun show and had a dip (of Shitty Mountain) when I got home.
Feeling good with no nicotine but struggling with cravings for the kick! 'drool'
Jeff, You dipped for 30 years. Keep reading here. Keep quitting for Yourself ODAAT. You don't need the poison, the poison makers needed us. They have lied forever to the world and got away with killing who knows how many.
Study up and learn what nicotine really is...poison.
Rest assured, we are addicts for life. That's okay because we beat the addiction one day at a time for life. It does get much, much better...I promise YOU!
I am free Today with YOU!
I quit with YOU Today!
Be well, be quit, behave.
Resolute Bastards will get through this. Overall have been feeling OK after first three days and kind of "this is not fun but I got this" and then bam yesterday I felt like clawing my own face off most of the day. 'bang head' 'bang head' Hang tough, we got this ODAAT!
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Wow, just tried Smokey Mountain Wintergreen for the first time and it was nice to feel the pull on my gumline again while not feeling guilty about nicotine! It was a pleasant surprise.
Having grown up on the farm and tasted fresh corn though, it was obvious that corn silks was a major ingredient - bleh!
All in all - I recommend it for short term getting by!
Day 2 of Smokey Mountain. It tastes shitty enough that I didn't want it first thing this morning. Went to a gun show and had a dip (of Shitty Mountain) when I got home.
Feeling good with no nicotine but struggling with cravings for the kick! 'drool'
Jeff, You dipped for 30 years. Keep reading here. Keep quitting for Yourself ODAAT. You don't need the poison, the poison makers needed us. They have lied forever to the world and got away with killing who knows how many.
Study up and learn what nicotine really is...poison.
Rest assured, we are addicts for life. That's okay because we beat the addiction one day at a time for life. It does get much, much better...I promise YOU!
I am free Today with YOU!
I quit with YOU Today!
Be well, be quit, behave.
Resolute Bastards will get through this. Overall have been feeling OK after first three days and kind of "this is not fun but I got this" and then bam yesterday I felt like clawing my own face off most of the day. 'bang head' 'bang head' Hang tough, we got this ODAAT!
Sam, I do remember the face clawing feeling and it was rough.
30, thanks for the support.
Both of your posts remind me that I can expect it to continue getting better. I'm now in a phase of mostly not missing it but I can feel the BITCH whispering in my ear "You've been without me for almost three weeks, surely I wasn't as bad as you thought I was!"
I am a Resolute Bastard though so I will prevail today!
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Wow, just tried Smokey Mountain Wintergreen for the first time and it was nice to feel the pull on my gumline again while not feeling guilty about nicotine! It was a pleasant surprise.
Having grown up on the farm and tasted fresh corn though, it was obvious that corn silks was a major ingredient - bleh!
All in all - I recommend it for short term getting by!
Day 2 of Smokey Mountain. It tastes shitty enough that I didn't want it first thing this morning. Went to a gun show and had a dip (of Shitty Mountain) when I got home.
Feeling good with no nicotine but struggling with cravings for the kick! 'drool'
Jeff, You dipped for 30 years. Keep reading here. Keep quitting for Yourself ODAAT. You don't need the poison, the poison makers needed us. They have lied forever to the world and got away with killing who knows how many.
Study up and learn what nicotine really is...poison.
Rest assured, we are addicts for life. That's okay because we beat the addiction one day at a time for life. It does get much, much better...I promise YOU!
I am free Today with YOU!
I quit with YOU Today!
Be well, be quit, behave.
Resolute Bastards will get through this. Overall have been feeling OK after first three days and kind of "this is not fun but I got this" and then bam yesterday I felt like clawing my own face off most of the day. 'bang head' 'bang head' Hang tough, we got this ODAAT!
Sam, I do remember the face clawing feeling and it was rough.
30, thanks for the support.
Both of your posts remind me that I can expect it to continue getting better. I'm now in a phase of mostly not missing it but I can feel the BITCH whispering in my ear "You've been without me for almost three weeks, surely I wasn't as bad as you thought I was!"
I am a Resolute Bastard though so I will prevail today!
Stay busy.. Now you can do things without the poison controlling your day!
Live Your life. It is Yours.
Do what you're meant to do, period!
Be the best of what and Who You are!
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Never would have believed 21 days with no Skoal! But here I am with all of you and with the support of family, friends, KTC and the Resolute Bastards its done.
Here we go with day 22! 'poledancer'
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Never would have believed 21 days with no Skoal! But here I am with all of you and with the support of family, friends, KTC and the Resolute Bastards its done.
Here we go with day 22! 'poledancer'
Yeah, way to go baby. What a great quit you've got goin' on. One Day at a Time... and all of a sudden you're up here in the 20's. Hang tough brother. You got this!
ZC.
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Never would have believed 21 days with no Skoal! But here I am with all of you and with the support of family, friends, KTC and the Resolute Bastards its done.
Here we go with day 22! 'poledancer'
Yeah, way to go baby. What a great quit you've got goin' on. One Day at a Time... and all of a sudden you're up here in the 20's. Hang tough brother. You got this!
ZC.
The bitch will keep trying new ways to convince you to take her back, so stay alert. There's a cadre of you resolute bastards that have some good quit momentum going, and some good support and accountability networks in the making, so keep up what you are doing and keep quitting one day at a time. It helps my quit to see you all doing well, and I'll be glad to help your quit any way I can. Glad to quit with you again today!
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Never would have believed 21 days with no Skoal! But here I am with all of you and with the support of family, friends, KTC and the Resolute Bastards its done.
Here we go with day 22! 'poledancer'
Yeah, way to go baby. What a great quit you've got goin' on. One Day at a Time... and all of a sudden you're up here in the 20's. Hang tough brother. You got this!
ZC.
The bitch will keep trying new ways to convince you to take her back, so stay alert. There's a cadre of you resolute bastards that have some good quit momentum going, and some good support and accountability networks in the making, so keep up what you are doing and keep quitting one day at a time. It helps my quit to see you all doing well, and I'll be glad to help your quit any way I can. Glad to quit with you again today!
Congrats! Enjoy those +1's stacking up.
You quit will gradually shift from battling craves and the fog to one where you battle complacency. The key is to recognize the change and adjust your quit. Stay vigilant. Pay attention, there are dozens of serious quitters who "forget" they are addicts and cave with 100 or more days in... Not suggesting this is you, just trying to give you a heads up on how your quit will need to change...
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Never would have believed 21 days with no Skoal! But here I am with all of you and with the support of family, friends, KTC and the Resolute Bastards its done.
Here we go with day 22! 'poledancer'
Yeah, way to go baby. What a great quit you've got goin' on. One Day at a Time... and all of a sudden you're up here in the 20's. Hang tough brother. You got this!
ZC.
The bitch will keep trying new ways to convince you to take her back, so stay alert. There's a cadre of you resolute bastards that have some good quit momentum going, and some good support and accountability networks in the making, so keep up what you are doing and keep quitting one day at a time. It helps my quit to see you all doing well, and I'll be glad to help your quit any way I can. Glad to quit with you again today!
Congrats! Enjoy those +1's stacking up.
You quit will gradually shift from battling craves and the fog to one where you battle complacency. The key is to recognize the change and adjust your quit. Stay vigilant. Pay attention, there are dozens of serious quitters who "forget" they are addicts and cave with 100 or more days in... Not suggesting this is you, just trying to give you a heads up on how your quit will need to change...
Best way to fight complacency is to keep doing what has gotten you this far Every Damn Day. Not easy but simple is the way it starts, and when you +1 enough it gets easier and simple: post roll keep your word and repeat. 3 weeks is an awesome accomplishment, but you know what's even better? 22 days that's what. Keep winning.
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Posting my thoughts for posterity today and for future reference for me - I'm seeing a lot of people with long term stops coming back to the board after a cave. Notice I didn't say quit because as people point out to them, you only quit once.
A person with over 200 days stopped that caves can be discouraging to someone with 22 days and the rest of my life ahead. At the same time I see someone with almost 300 days who is hurting as bad as the first few days and they are being told it gets better.
When the fuck does it stop getting better and be as good as it can get? How can something so hard to get away from still be sold in a convenience store?
I am committed to quit today because I posted roll. I am actually enjoying being quit and proud of myself for being quit for 22 days.
Should I just quit thinking about it? I'm just struggling with overthinking today!
Moving on!
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Posting my thoughts for posterity today and for future reference for me - I'm seeing a lot of people with long term stops coming back to the board after a cave. Notice I didn't say quit because as people point out to them, you only quit once.
A person with over 200 days stopped that caves can be discouraging to someone with 22 days and the rest of my life ahead. At the same time I see someone with almost 300 days who is hurting as bad as the first few days and they are being told it gets better.
When the fuck does it stop getting better and be as good as it can get? How can something so hard to get away from still be sold in a convenience store?
I am committed to quit today because I posted roll. I am actually enjoying being quit and proud of myself for being quit for 22 days.
Should I just quit thinking about it? I'm just struggling with overthinking today!
Moving on!
Looking at the guys who've been quit long-term here. It seems pretty simple to be successful. Post roll every day and stay involved. Don't shy away from the accountability.
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Posting my thoughts for posterity today and for future reference for me - I'm seeing a lot of people with long term stops coming back to the board after a cave. Notice I didn't say quit because as people point out to them, you only quit once.
A person with over 200 days stopped that caves can be discouraging to someone with 22 days and the rest of my life ahead. At the same time I see someone with almost 300 days who is hurting as bad as the first few days and they are being told it gets better.
When the fuck does it stop getting better and be as good as it can get? How can something so hard to get away from still be sold in a convenience store?
I am committed to quit today because I posted roll. I am actually enjoying being quit and proud of myself for being quit for 22 days.
Should I just quit thinking about it? I'm just struggling with overthinking today!
Moving on!
I'm right behind you (16 days) and have been thinking about the same stuff. I am coming to realize that the secret is not to think about the long term. It's counterintuitive in some ways (i.e., not thinking about the long-term health consequences are what landed us all here), but I think the extreme short term focus is what makes this all manageable. Inch-by-inch.
Focus on today, and protecting the territory you fought for for the past 20 days. The right time to think about whether you will cave on Day 200 is Day 200. On that day, you'll have 199 hard fought days that will get you through that one troublesome day.
Are there folks that cave after big milestones? Sure. But they are outnumbered by those who never start this filthy habit, and probably by those who don't cave after big milestones. Anyway, today's job is "not being one of them today," and that's not that hard to do. We've already proven that we can get through one day.
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Posting my thoughts for posterity today and for future reference for me - I'm seeing a lot of people with long term stops coming back to the board after a cave. Notice I didn't say quit because as people point out to them, you only quit once.
A person with over 200 days stopped that caves can be discouraging to someone with 22 days and the rest of my life ahead. At the same time I see someone with almost 300 days who is hurting as bad as the first few days and they are being told it gets better.
When the fuck does it stop getting better and be as good as it can get? How can something so hard to get away from still be sold in a convenience store?
I am committed to quit today because I posted roll. I am actually enjoying being quit and proud of myself for being quit for 22 days.
Should I just quit thinking about it? I'm just struggling with overthinking today!
Moving on!
I'm right behind you (16 days) and have been thinking about the same stuff. I am coming to realize that the secret is not to think about the long term. It's counterintuitive in some ways (i.e., not thinking about the long-term health consequences are what landed us all here), but I think the extreme short term focus is what makes this all manageable. Inch-by-inch.
Focus on today, and protecting the territory you fought for for the past 20 days. The right time to think about whether you will cave on Day 200 is Day 200. On that day, you'll have 199 hard fought days that will get you through that one troublesome day.
Are there folks that cave after big milestones? Sure. But they are outnumbered by those who never start this filthy habit, and probably by those who don't cave after big milestones. Anyway, today's job is "not being one of them today," and that's not that hard to do. We've already proven that we can get through one day.
x2
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Posting my thoughts for posterity today and for future reference for me - I'm seeing a lot of people with long term stops coming back to the board after a cave. Notice I didn't say quit because as people point out to them, you only quit once.
A person with over 200 days stopped that caves can be discouraging to someone with 22 days and the rest of my life ahead. At the same time I see someone with almost 300 days who is hurting as bad as the first few days and they are being told it gets better.
When the fuck does it stop getting better and be as good as it can get? How can something so hard to get away from still be sold in a convenience store?
I am committed to quit today because I posted roll. I am actually enjoying being quit and proud of myself for being quit for 22 days.
Should I just quit thinking about it? I'm just struggling with overthinking today!
Moving on!
Looking at the guys who've been quit long-term here. It seems pretty simple to be successful. Post roll every day and stay involved. Don't shy away from the accountability.
there is a common thread with those that come back with a new day 1. And yes that may be that they stop posting, but I rather say that they forgot what got them to the point when they left in the first place.
I say people like that have not 'got' what KTC is. KTC is a brotherhood and it is that which makes it work. So no matter 20, 200 or 2000, we always need to remember what we are being taught here (giving a promise, honoring our word, our new family here of those who we count on and who count on us.
I also then say as we move through life, we will always have our ups and downs. Once you get over the 200, 300, these are most likely due to life and not the quit, but our brain is still wired in such a way that we try to lay blame...
But at that point it is a 1-2 day thing, (hell I went through it over the holidays), but the good 100 days or so leading up to that makes the quitting so much worth it, and from what I hear it will even get better.
So try not to overthink and look to far ahead of yourself. The time and days will pile up, just keep remembering this site, its message and us crazy-ass friends and family that you are a part of.
I quit with you today, ask me tomorrow and I will say the same.
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Posting my thoughts for posterity today and for future reference for me - I'm seeing a lot of people with long term stops coming back to the board after a cave. Notice I didn't say quit because as people point out to them, you only quit once.
A person with over 200 days stopped that caves can be discouraging to someone with 22 days and the rest of my life ahead. At the same time I see someone with almost 300 days who is hurting as bad as the first few days and they are being told it gets better.
When the fuck does it stop getting better and be as good as it can get? How can something so hard to get away from still be sold in a convenience store?
I am committed to quit today because I posted roll. I am actually enjoying being quit and proud of myself for being quit for 22 days.
Should I just quit thinking about it? I'm just struggling with overthinking today!
Moving on!
Looking at the guys who've been quit long-term here. It seems pretty simple to be successful. Post roll every day and stay involved. Don't shy away from the accountability.
Hi Ammo
I know the feeling. Earlier on I read a post by a monster quitter named ready who has been quit for nearly 5 years. He posted some encouragement that things get so much better and that it had been years since he had a crave. Needless to say that got me all worked up wishing for that for myself. Then.....Srans reigned me in by reminding me that ready and all the other vets just did it ODAAT and it "just happens." I actually am now finally coming to grips with that concept for real, and finding comfort in not thinking about being quit for more than just today. For me that is easy to get my brain around and I have faith that if we just keep doing this every day that it will "just happen" for us too! Quit on brother, I am enjoying following your quit. You should be proud of yourself. Keep fucking going! Me and Derek were posting the same time so I missed his quote but what he said below says what I was trying to say better! ;)
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Posting my thoughts for posterity today and for future reference for me - I'm seeing a lot of people with long term stops coming back to the board after a cave. Notice I didn't say quit because as people point out to them, you only quit once.
A person with over 200 days stopped that caves can be discouraging to someone with 22 days and the rest of my life ahead. At the same time I see someone with almost 300 days who is hurting as bad as the first few days and they are being told it gets better.
When the fuck does it stop getting better and be as good as it can get? How can something so hard to get away from still be sold in a convenience store?
I am committed to quit today because I posted roll. I am actually enjoying being quit and proud of myself for being quit for 22 days.
Should I just quit thinking about it? I'm just struggling with overthinking today!
Moving on!
Looking at the guys who've been quit long-term here. It seems pretty simple to be successful. Post roll every day and stay involved. Don't shy away from the accountability.
Hi Ammo
I know the feeling. Earlier on I read a post by a monster quitter named ready who has been quit for nearly 5 years. He posted some encouragement that things get so much better and that it had been years since he had a crave. Needless to say that got me all worked up wishing for that for myself. Then.....Srans reigned me in by reminding me that ready and all the other vets just did it ODAAT and it "just happens." I actually am now finally coming to grips with that concept for real, and finding comfort in not thinking about being quit for more than just today. For me that is easy to get my brain around and I have faith that if we just keep doing this every day that it will "just happen" for us too! Quit on brother, I am enjoying following your quit. You should be proud of yourself. Keep fucking going! Me and Derek were posting the same time so I missed his quote but what he said below says what I was trying to say better! ;)
I remember asking the same thing way back when apogee. Your job and rdad's at this stage is to continue to identify and squash craves. Use whatever it takes to avoid giving in to the fuck its. Handle today TODAY.
It's kind of like what Suds likes to say....
"How do you eat out a 400 lb woman?"
"One lick at a time...."
shocker
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Posting my thoughts for posterity today and for future reference for me - I'm seeing a lot of people with long term stops coming back to the board after a cave. Notice I didn't say quit because as people point out to them, you only quit once.
A person with over 200 days stopped that caves can be discouraging to someone with 22 days and the rest of my life ahead. At the same time I see someone with almost 300 days who is hurting as bad as the first few days and they are being told it gets better.
When the fuck does it stop getting better and be as good as it can get? How can something so hard to get away from still be sold in a convenience store?
I am committed to quit today because I posted roll. I am actually enjoying being quit and proud of myself for being quit for 22 days.
Should I just quit thinking about it? I'm just struggling with overthinking today!
Moving on!
Looking at the guys who've been quit long-term here. It seems pretty simple to be successful. Post roll every day and stay involved. Don't shy away from the accountability.
Hi Ammo
I know the feeling. Earlier on I read a post by a monster quitter named ready who has been quit for nearly 5 years. He posted some encouragement that things get so much better and that it had been years since he had a crave. Needless to say that got me all worked up wishing for that for myself. Then.....Srans reigned me in by reminding me that ready and all the other vets just did it ODAAT and it "just happens." I actually am now finally coming to grips with that concept for real, and finding comfort in not thinking about being quit for more than just today. For me that is easy to get my brain around and I have faith that if we just keep doing this every day that it will "just happen" for us too! Quit on brother, I am enjoying following your quit. You should be proud of yourself. Keep fucking going! Me and Derek were posting the same time so I missed his quote but what he said below says what I was trying to say better! ;)
I remember asking the same thing way back when apogee. Your job and rdad's at this stage is to continue to identify and squash craves. Use whatever it takes to avoid giving in to the fuck its. Handle today TODAY.
It's kind of like what Suds likes to say....
"How do you eat out a 400 lb woman?"
"One lick at a time...."
shocker
I just threw up in my mouth. 'crackup'
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Posting my thoughts for posterity today and for future reference for me - I'm seeing a lot of people with long term stops coming back to the board after a cave. Notice I didn't say quit because as people point out to them, you only quit once.
A person with over 200 days stopped that caves can be discouraging to someone with 22 days and the rest of my life ahead. At the same time I see someone with almost 300 days who is hurting as bad as the first few days and they are being told it gets better.
When the fuck does it stop getting better and be as good as it can get? How can something so hard to get away from still be sold in a convenience store?
I am committed to quit today because I posted roll. I am actually enjoying being quit and proud of myself for being quit for 22 days.
Should I just quit thinking about it? I'm just struggling with overthinking today!
Moving on!
Looking at the guys who've been quit long-term here. It seems pretty simple to be successful. Post roll every day and stay involved. Don't shy away from the accountability.
Hi Ammo
I know the feeling. Earlier on I read a post by a monster quitter named ready who has been quit for nearly 5 years. He posted some encouragement that things get so much better and that it had been years since he had a crave. Needless to say that got me all worked up wishing for that for myself. Then.....Srans reigned me in by reminding me that ready and all the other vets just did it ODAAT and it "just happens." I actually am now finally coming to grips with that concept for real, and finding comfort in not thinking about being quit for more than just today. For me that is easy to get my brain around and I have faith that if we just keep doing this every day that it will "just happen" for us too! Quit on brother, I am enjoying following your quit. You should be proud of yourself. Keep fucking going! Me and Derek were posting the same time so I missed his quote but what he said below says what I was trying to say better! ;)
I remember asking the same thing way back when apogee. Your job and rdad's at this stage is to continue to identify and squash craves. Use whatever it takes to avoid giving in to the fuck its. Handle today TODAY.
It's kind of like what Suds likes to say....
"How do you eat out a 400 lb woman?"
"One lick at a time...."
shocker
I just threw up in my mouth. 'crackup'
ERDVM has successfully diverted my overthinking!
That is all!
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Posting my thoughts for posterity today and for future reference for me - I'm seeing a lot of people with long term stops coming back to the board after a cave. Notice I didn't say quit because as people point out to them, you only quit once.
A person with over 200 days stopped that caves can be discouraging to someone with 22 days and the rest of my life ahead. At the same time I see someone with almost 300 days who is hurting as bad as the first few days and they are being told it gets better.
When the fuck does it stop getting better and be as good as it can get? How can something so hard to get away from still be sold in a convenience store?
I am committed to quit today because I posted roll. I am actually enjoying being quit and proud of myself for being quit for 22 days.
Should I just quit thinking about it? I'm just struggling with overthinking today!
Moving on!
Looking at the guys who've been quit long-term here. It seems pretty simple to be successful. Post roll every day and stay involved. Don't shy away from the accountability.
Hi Ammo
I know the feeling. Earlier on I read a post by a monster quitter named ready who has been quit for nearly 5 years. He posted some encouragement that things get so much better and that it had been years since he had a crave. Needless to say that got me all worked up wishing for that for myself. Then.....Srans reigned me in by reminding me that ready and all the other vets just did it ODAAT and it "just happens." I actually am now finally coming to grips with that concept for real, and finding comfort in not thinking about being quit for more than just today. For me that is easy to get my brain around and I have faith that if we just keep doing this every day that it will "just happen" for us too! Quit on brother, I am enjoying following your quit. You should be proud of yourself. Keep fucking going! Me and Derek were posting the same time so I missed his quote but what he said below says what I was trying to say better! ;)
I remember asking the same thing way back when apogee. Your job and rdad's at this stage is to continue to identify and squash craves. Use whatever it takes to avoid giving in to the fuck its. Handle today TODAY.
It's kind of like what Suds likes to say....
"How do you eat out a 400 lb woman?"
"One lick at a time...."
shocker
I just threw up in my mouth. 'crackup'
ERDVM has successfully diverted my overthinking!
That is all!
Hey, it just takes a little time. After a while they really start to add up.... 'Y'
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Posting my thoughts for posterity today and for future reference for me - I'm seeing a lot of people with long term stops coming back to the board after a cave. Notice I didn't say quit because as people point out to them, you only quit once.
A person with over 200 days stopped that caves can be discouraging to someone with 22 days and the rest of my life ahead. At the same time I see someone with almost 300 days who is hurting as bad as the first few days and they are being told it gets better.
When the fuck does it stop getting better and be as good as it can get? How can something so hard to get away from still be sold in a convenience store?
I am committed to quit today because I posted roll. I am actually enjoying being quit and proud of myself for being quit for 22 days.
Should I just quit thinking about it? I'm just struggling with overthinking today!
Moving on!
Looking at the guys who've been quit long-term here. It seems pretty simple to be successful. Post roll every day and stay involved. Don't shy away from the accountability.
Hi Ammo
I know the feeling. Earlier on I read a post by a monster quitter named ready who has been quit for nearly 5 years. He posted some encouragement that things get so much better and that it had been years since he had a crave. Needless to say that got me all worked up wishing for that for myself. Then.....Srans reigned me in by reminding me that ready and all the other vets just did it ODAAT and it "just happens." I actually am now finally coming to grips with that concept for real, and finding comfort in not thinking about being quit for more than just today. For me that is easy to get my brain around and I have faith that if we just keep doing this every day that it will "just happen" for us too! Quit on brother, I am enjoying following your quit. You should be proud of yourself. Keep fucking going! Me and Derek were posting the same time so I missed his quote but what he said below says what I was trying to say better! ;)
I remember asking the same thing way back when apogee. Your job and rdad's at this stage is to continue to identify and squash craves. Use whatever it takes to avoid giving in to the fuck its. Handle today TODAY.
It's kind of like what Suds likes to say....
"How do you eat out a 400 lb woman?"
"One lick at a time...."
shocker
I just threw up in my mouth. 'crackup'
ERDVM has successfully diverted my overthinking!
That is all!
Hey, it just takes a little time. After a while they really start to add up.... 'Y'
Ya great visual Vadge.
I remember being where you are at Apogee and it sucked to see caves. What I did is found a vet and they helped keep me grounded when shit storms flared up when caves came and went. I wont lie I got news of a cave some 40+ days ago, I took it hard and I went to that same vet and he was there again. That's what we do here we use our tools we lean when we need help we give back when we have some left in the tank. Like was said earlier you are going to be doing a lot of firsts in this trip around the sun your job is just to battle the craves and identify that you can do all these things without dip. Dip was a distraction it is not by any means performance enhancing.
PM me if you need anything
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Thanks to all for the responses and support. I've been watching two threads happening today that are completely related to my question and I've learned from both:
1-Racetrack Cowgirl had a bad experience with people posting things she didn't like but she powered through, made no excuses, and continued a 293 day quit by starting a new introduction. Great job and great support from others.
2-Neonpanther caved and is fortunate that this is an internet forum because based on the responses he got from his former HOF classmates and some veterans, they would probably do him bodily harm for posting roll while using!
My learning is: the quit of today is what matters most and all the other bullshit just gets in the way. 1 Problem + Nicotine = 2 Problems
Wow!
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very good Grass Hopper...
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Posting my thoughts for posterity today and for future reference for me - I'm seeing a lot of people with long term stops coming back to the board after a cave. Notice I didn't say quit because as people point out to them, you only quit once.
A person with over 200 days stopped that caves can be discouraging to someone with 22 days and the rest of my life ahead. At the same time I see someone with almost 300 days who is hurting as bad as the first few days and they are being told it gets better.
When the fuck does it stop getting better and be as good as it can get? How can something so hard to get away from still be sold in a convenience store?
I am committed to quit today because I posted roll. I am actually enjoying being quit and proud of myself for being quit for 22 days.
Should I just quit thinking about it? I'm just struggling with overthinking today!
Moving on!
Looking at the guys who've been quit long-term here. It seems pretty simple to be successful. Post roll every day and stay involved. Don't shy away from the accountability.
Hi Ammo
I know the feeling. Earlier on I read a post by a monster quitter named ready who has been quit for nearly 5 years. He posted some encouragement that things get so much better and that it had been years since he had a crave. Needless to say that got me all worked up wishing for that for myself. Then.....Srans reigned me in by reminding me that ready and all the other vets just did it ODAAT and it "just happens." I actually am now finally coming to grips with that concept for real, and finding comfort in not thinking about being quit for more than just today. For me that is easy to get my brain around and I have faith that if we just keep doing this every day that it will "just happen" for us too! Quit on brother, I am enjoying following your quit. You should be proud of yourself. Keep fucking going! Me and Derek were posting the same time so I missed his quote but what he said below says what I was trying to say better! ;)
I remember asking the same thing way back when apogee. Your job and rdad's at this stage is to continue to identify and squash craves. Use whatever it takes to avoid giving in to the fuck its. Handle today TODAY.
It's kind of like what Suds likes to say....
"How do you eat out a 400 lb woman?"
"One lick at a time...."
shocker
I just threw up in my mouth. 'crackup'
ERDVM has successfully diverted my overthinking!
That is all!
Hey, it just takes a little time. After a while they really start to add up.... 'Y'
Ya great visual Vadge.
I remember being where you are at Apogee and it sucked to see caves. What I did is found a vet and they helped keep me grounded when shit storms flared up when caves came and went. I wont lie I got news of a cave some 40+ days ago, I took it hard and I went to that same vet and he was there again. That's what we do here we use our tools we lean when we need help we give back when we have some left in the tank. Like was said earlier you are going to be doing a lot of firsts in this trip around the sun your job is just to battle the craves and identify that you can do all these things without dip. Dip was a distraction it is not by any means performance enhancing.
PM me if you need anything
Your quit will keep getting easier over time, but I'm doubtful there ever is a moment when it is as good as it will get.
Frankly my quit is easy now. I don't have craves, just the occasional faint whisper that is easy to reject. Complacency is now the enemy for me, not craves. But I think I might be a little different than many quitters, because I am entirely at peace with the idea of NEVER again. My "practice"remains 1 day at a time, but my mentality is far beyond that now. I don't want that shit, I don't crave that shit, and intellectually I know that shit will not help me in any way. I am stone cold done with it. Until you mentally get there, I think quitting remains a challenge for most.
But what the hell do I know, I've only been a quitter for 2 years now...
And thanks Vadge for that mental picture, now stuck in my brain where I don't want it... 'no'
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Thanks to all for the responses and support. I've been watching two threads happening today that are completely related to my question and I've learned from both:
1-Racetrack Cowgirl had a bad experience with people posting things she didn't like but she powered through, made no excuses, and continued a 293 day quit by starting a new introduction. Great job and great support from others.
2-Neonpanther caved and is fortunate that this is an internet forum because based on the responses he got from his former HOF classmates and some veterans, they would probably do him bodily harm for posting roll while using!
My learning is: the quit of today is what matters most and all the other bullshit just gets in the way. 1 Problem + Nicotine = 2 Problems
Wow!
The whole Neonpanther debacle seems to have really put a bitterness into KTC. Since yesterday every new person or person who comes back is aggressively greeted with scorn and doubt. Its hard to read at times. Seems to have really shaken some people.
At the same time, my first post was on day 3 of my quit because as I said "you guys are mean as shit" so I knew what I was committing to. Maybe its just me who was shaken.
Today was still a good day to be quit!
I don't see a smilie for being reflective but that's how I feel today. :mellow:
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Thanks to all for the responses and support. I've been watching two threads happening today that are completely related to my question and I've learned from both:
1-Racetrack Cowgirl had a bad experience with people posting things she didn't like but she powered through, made no excuses, and continued a 293 day quit by starting a new introduction. Great job and great support from others.
2-Neonpanther caved and is fortunate that this is an internet forum because based on the responses he got from his former HOF classmates and some veterans, they would probably do him bodily harm for posting roll while using!
My learning is: the quit of today is what matters most and all the other bullshit just gets in the way. 1 Problem + Nicotine = 2 Problems
Wow!
The whole Neonpanther debacle seems to have really put a bitterness into KTC. Since yesterday every new person or person who comes back is aggressively greeted with scorn and doubt. Its hard to read at times. Seems to have really shaken some people.
At the same time, my first post was on day 3 of my quit because as I said "you guys are mean as shit" so I knew what I was committing to. Maybe its just me who was shaken.
Today was still a good day to be quit!
I don't see a smilie for being reflective but that's how I feel today. :mellow:
How about this ratio for our Koolaid: 10% Scorn/Doubt + 10% Rage/Vitriol + 80% Positive Reinforcement = 100% Success....
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Thanks to all for the responses and support. I've been watching two threads happening today that are completely related to my question and I've learned from both:
1-Racetrack Cowgirl had a bad experience with people posting things she didn't like but she powered through, made no excuses, and continued a 293 day quit by starting a new introduction. Great job and great support from others.
2-Neonpanther caved and is fortunate that this is an internet forum because based on the responses he got from his former HOF classmates and some veterans, they would probably do him bodily harm for posting roll while using!
My learning is: the quit of today is what matters most and all the other bullshit just gets in the way. 1 Problem + Nicotine = 2 Problems
Wow!
The whole Neonpanther debacle seems to have really put a bitterness into KTC. Since yesterday every new person or person who comes back is aggressively greeted with scorn and doubt. Its hard to read at times. Seems to have really shaken some people.
At the same time, my first post was on day 3 of my quit because as I said "you guys are mean as shit" so I knew what I was committing to. Maybe its just me who was shaken.
Today was still a good day to be quit!
I don't see a smilie for being reflective but that's how I feel today. :mellow:
How about this ratio for our Koolaid: 10% Scorn/Doubt + 10% Rage/Vitriol + 80% Positive Reinforcement = 100% Success....
I think 5% S/D+5% R/V+5% PR+85% Resolute Bastardy! Since most of our quit comes from us.
Thanks ZC, another thing to think about!
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Thanks to all for the responses and support. I've been watching two threads happening today that are completely related to my question and I've learned from both:
1-Racetrack Cowgirl had a bad experience with people posting things she didn't like but she powered through, made no excuses, and continued a 293 day quit by starting a new introduction. Great job and great support from others.
2-Neonpanther caved and is fortunate that this is an internet forum because based on the responses he got from his former HOF classmates and some veterans, they would probably do him bodily harm for posting roll while using!
My learning is: the quit of today is what matters most and all the other bullshit just gets in the way. 1 Problem + Nicotine = 2 Problems
Wow!
The whole Neonpanther debacle seems to have really put a bitterness into KTC. Since yesterday every new person or person who comes back is aggressively greeted with scorn and doubt. Its hard to read at times. Seems to have really shaken some people.
At the same time, my first post was on day 3 of my quit because as I said "you guys are mean as shit" so I knew what I was committing to. Maybe its just me who was shaken.
Today was still a good day to be quit!
I don't see a smilie for being reflective but that's how I feel today. :mellow:
How about this ratio for our Koolaid: 10% Scorn/Doubt + 10% Rage/Vitriol + 80% Positive Reinforcement = 100% Success....
I think 5% S/D+5% R/V+5% PR+85% Resolute Bastardy! Since most of our quit comes from us.
Thanks ZC, another thing to think about!
Niiiice...I like it. Putting the 85% "Resolute Bastardy" ingredient in there makes it all work! Have a great day. I quit with you ODAAT!
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Posting my thoughts for posterity today and for future reference for me - I'm seeing a lot of people with long term stops coming back to the board after a cave. Notice I didn't say quit because as people point out to them, you only quit once.
A person with over 200 days stopped that caves can be discouraging to someone with 22 days and the rest of my life ahead. At the same time I see someone with almost 300 days who is hurting as bad as the first few days and they are being told it gets better.
When the fuck does it stop getting better and be as good as it can get? How can something so hard to get away from still be sold in a convenience store?
I am committed to quit today because I posted roll. I am actually enjoying being quit and proud of myself for being quit for 22 days.
Should I just quit thinking about it? I'm just struggling with overthinking today!
Moving on!
I'm right behind you (16 days) and have been thinking about the same stuff. I am coming to realize that the secret is not to think about the long term. It's counterintuitive in some ways (i.e., not thinking about the long-term health consequences are what landed us all here), but I think the extreme short term focus is what makes this all manageable. Inch-by-inch.
Focus on today, and protecting the territory you fought for for the past 20 days. The right time to think about whether you will cave on Day 200 is Day 200. On that day, you'll have 199 hard fought days that will get you through that one troublesome day.
Are there folks that cave after big milestones? Sure. But they are outnumbered by those who never start this filthy habit, and probably by those who don't cave after big milestones. Anyway, today's job is "not being one of them today," and that's not that hard to do. We've already proven that we can get through one day.
I just wanted to bump this to the top. Compton nailed it. And Ammo, re: when does it get better? For me I turned a major corner at day 45 or so and another at around 80. But, like Compton said, don't even think about it! Also, you're one hell of a fine addition to KTC, from what I can tell. +1
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Posting my thoughts for posterity today and for future reference for me - I'm seeing a lot of people with long term stops coming back to the board after a cave. Notice I didn't say quit because as people point out to them, you only quit once.
A person with over 200 days stopped that caves can be discouraging to someone with 22 days and the rest of my life ahead. At the same time I see someone with almost 300 days who is hurting as bad as the first few days and they are being told it gets better.
When the fuck does it stop getting better and be as good as it can get? How can something so hard to get away from still be sold in a convenience store?
I am committed to quit today because I posted roll. I am actually enjoying being quit and proud of myself for being quit for 22 days.
Should I just quit thinking about it? I'm just struggling with overthinking today!
Moving on!
I'm right behind you (16 days) and have been thinking about the same stuff. I am coming to realize that the secret is not to think about the long term. It's counterintuitive in some ways (i.e., not thinking about the long-term health consequences are what landed us all here), but I think the extreme short term focus is what makes this all manageable. Inch-by-inch.
Focus on today, and protecting the territory you fought for for the past 20 days. The right time to think about whether you will cave on Day 200 is Day 200. On that day, you'll have 199 hard fought days that will get you through that one troublesome day.
Are there folks that cave after big milestones? Sure. But they are outnumbered by those who never start this filthy habit, and probably by those who don't cave after big milestones. Anyway, today's job is "not being one of them today," and that's not that hard to do. We've already proven that we can get through one day.
I just wanted to bump this to the top. Compton nailed it. And Ammo, re: when does it get better? For me I turned a major corner at day 45 or so and another at around 80. But, like Compton said, don't even think about it! Also, you're one hell of a fine addition to KTC, from what I can tell. +1
Hey Fellas.
Do you remember the day you got fat? Me neither. I just sort of realized one day the gas tank for the love machine had reached maximum density. I'm not sure when I got old either, but people call me sir all the time now....
I hit five years on the 26th. I haven't had a craving in so long I can't remember what they feel like. Nicotine in all her irresistible forms has about as much power over me as the first piece of Fruit Stripe in the pack. I shake my head at the time I wasted, looking back it seems easy.
Just be patient, there is no time or day when you are suddenly past all this, One day you'll just realize you haven't thought about a dip in a long long time.
When you do think about it, you'll smile that your free from it, and let it go.
Like thinking of a poorly made sandwich you left in the sun.
one day at a time ladies
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I'm not sure if it is legal to plagiarize from someone's Introduction thread to my own but I want this to be on my thread so I can refer to it later. This meant a lot to me today!
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Day 194 - 1/24/14
I am about a week away from being absolutely nicotine and tobacco free for 200 days or reaching the second floor as it is known in KTC.
Recently other caves have happened, some people have lied, others chose to state that they have a life beyond KTC.
Well fuck all that noise! I say cave away, continue lying and enjoy your life missing your lower jaw and having rancid breath. I salute you with one of these and two of these
I drank the KTC kool aide, in 194 days I have seen epic caves, watched people fade away and read many excuses for why
However, in that same time frame I have met some great people, either online or in person. If you don't like the methods used here, pack your shit turn around and walk the fuck out. These methods have been proven by many and we follow a path laid out by those who walked before us. Some of those people are still around today.
I quit today, I made a promise to everyone in all of the 17 groups that I chose to post roll with. Most of all though I made a promise to myself, I am an addict, I need the help and knowing that a few other people are facing the same daemons, have faced those daemons or truly know what the ABCs are matter to me.
To those of you that show true support, those of you who made the trail and those of you on this journey with me thanks. I don't give a damn what milestone you are on, we are all addicts but together we are creating a new way and for that I thank you all.
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Thanks to Pinched for this message!
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I'm not sure if it is legal to plagiarize from someone's Introduction thread to my own but I want this to be on my thread so I can refer to it later. This meant a lot to me today!
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QUOTE (Pinched @ Jan 24, 2014, 2:31 pm)
Day 194 - 1/24/14
I am about a week away from being absolutely nicotine and tobacco free for 200 days or reaching the second floor as it is known in KTC.
Recently other caves have happened, some people have lied, others chose to state that they have a life beyond KTC.
Well fuck all that noise! I say cave away, continue lying and enjoy your life missing your lower jaw and having rancid breath. I salute you with one of these and two of these
I drank the KTC kool aide, in 194 days I have seen epic caves, watched people fade away and read many excuses for why
However, in that same time frame I have met some great people, either online or in person. If you don't like the methods used here, pack your shit turn around and walk the fuck out. These methods have been proven by many and we follow a path laid out by those who walked before us. Some of those people are still around today.
I quit today, I made a promise to everyone in all of the 17 groups that I chose to post roll with. Most of all though I made a promise to myself, I am an addict, I need the help and knowing that a few other people are facing the same daemons, have faced those daemons or truly know what the ABCs are matter to me.
To those of you that show true support, those of you who made the trail and those of you on this journey with me thanks. I don't give a damn what milestone you are on, we are all addicts but together we are creating a new way and for that I thank you all.
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Thanks to Pinched for this message!
Solid inspiration. Thanks for posting Apogee. I'm sure Pinched won't mind!
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I found boobies.... Oh fuck dip (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=2591)
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I'm not sure if it is legal to plagiarize from someone's Introduction thread to my own but I want this to be on my thread so I can refer to it later. This meant a lot to me today!
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QUOTE (Pinched @ Jan 24, 2014, 2:31 pm)
Day 194 - 1/24/14
I am about a week away from being absolutely nicotine and tobacco free for 200 days or reaching the second floor as it is known in KTC.
Recently other caves have happened, some people have lied, others chose to state that they have a life beyond KTC.
Well fuck all that noise! I say cave away, continue lying and enjoy your life missing your lower jaw and having rancid breath. I salute you with one of these and two of theseÂ
I drank the KTC kool aide, in 194 days I have seen epic caves, watched people fade away and read many excuses for why
However, in that same time frame I have met some great people, either online or in person. If you don't like the methods used here, pack your shit turn around and walk the fuck out. These methods have been proven by many and we follow a path laid out by those who walked before us. Some of those people are still around today.
I quit today, I made a promise to everyone in all of the 17 groups that I chose to post roll with. Most of all though I made a promise to myself, I am an addict, I need the help and knowing that a few other people are facing the same daemons, have faced those daemons or truly know what the ABCs are matter to me.
To those of you that show true support, those of you who made the trail and those of you on this journey with me thanks. I don't give a damn what milestone you are on, we are all addicts but together we are creating a new way and for that I thank you all.
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Thanks to Pinched for this message!
Solid inspiration. Thanks for posting Apogee. I'm sure Pinched won't mind!
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I found boobies.... Oh fuck dip (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=2591)
Thanks Duathman! Now I just feel bad that the last post on Neonpanther's thread before he got booted was me asking for boobies!
Plus I feel bad because you called me a fuckdip (whatever that is)
Anyway, thanks for the tits!
All of the above was typed with tongue firmly in cheek! Nobody else gets it but I crack myself up!
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I found boobies.... Oh fuck dip (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=2591)
Thanks Duathman! Now I just feel bad that the last post on Neonpanther's thread before he got booted was me asking for boobies!
Plus I feel bad because you called me a fuckdip (whatever that is)
Anyway, thanks for the tits!
All of the above was typed with tongue firmly in cheek! Nobody else gets it but I crack myself up!
At least the last post on NP's thread wasn't a fellow quitter calling everyone the C word... ha! Your post was a welcome change of pace!
Quit on you clown headed quitter you!
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I found boobies.... Oh fuck dip (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=2591)
Thanks Duathman! Now I just feel bad that the last post on Neonpanther's thread before he got booted was me asking for boobies!
Plus I feel bad because you called me a fuckdip (whatever that is)
Anyway, thanks for the tits!
All of the above was typed with tongue firmly in cheek! Nobody else gets it but I crack myself up!
At least the last post on NP's thread wasn't a fellow quitter calling everyone the C word... ha! Your post was a welcome change of pace!
Quit on you clown headed quitter you!
Funny thing is I did not realize the thread was closed until I attempted to give you directions to the boobies. Quit on!!!
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I found boobies.... Oh fuck dip (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=2591)
Thanks Duathman! Now I just feel bad that the last post on Neonpanther's thread before he got booted was me asking for boobies!
Plus I feel bad because you called me a fuckdip (whatever that is)
Anyway, thanks for the tits!
All of the above was typed with tongue firmly in cheek! Nobody else gets it but I crack myself up!
At least the last post on NP's thread wasn't a fellow quitter calling everyone the C word... ha! Your post was a welcome change of pace!
Quit on you clown headed quitter you!
Funny thing is I did not realize the thread was closed until I attempted to give you directions to the boobies. Quit on!!!
I attempted to modify my post about the boobies, that's when I found out.
I do like the boobies though! Thanks to all of you who PM'd me as well. It really showed that a lot of people were following the NP drama and really like sharing titties! 'boob' :wub:
Quitting on down the road!!
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I found boobies.... Oh fuck dip (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=2591)
Thanks Duathman! Now I just feel bad that the last post on Neonpanther's thread before he got booted was me asking for boobies!
Plus I feel bad because you called me a fuckdip (whatever that is)
Anyway, thanks for the tits!
All of the above was typed with tongue firmly in cheek! Nobody else gets it but I crack myself up!
At least the last post on NP's thread wasn't a fellow quitter calling everyone the C word... ha! Your post was a welcome change of pace!
Quit on you clown headed quitter you!
Funny thing is I did not realize the thread was closed until I attempted to give you directions to the boobies. Quit on!!!
I attempted to modify my post about the boobies, that's when I found out.
I do like the boobies though! Thanks to all of you who PM'd me as well. It really showed that a lot of people were following the NP drama and really like sharing titties! 'boob' :wub:
Quitting on down the road!!
Ya, did not really feel qualified to hop in on that one, and it was disturbing on a couple of levels, so I kept my mouth shut and learned. I am much more comfortable with boobies and find them much less disturbing, in fact, comforting. :D
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I found boobies.... Oh fuck dip (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=2591)
Thanks Duathman! Now I just feel bad that the last post on Neonpanther's thread before he got booted was me asking for boobies!
Plus I feel bad because you called me a fuckdip (whatever that is)
Anyway, thanks for the tits!
All of the above was typed with tongue firmly in cheek! Nobody else gets it but I crack myself up!
At least the last post on NP's thread wasn't a fellow quitter calling everyone the C word... ha! Your post was a welcome change of pace!
Quit on you clown headed quitter you!
Funny thing is I did not realize the thread was closed until I attempted to give you directions to the boobies. Quit on!!!
I attempted to modify my post about the boobies, that's when I found out.
I do like the boobies though! Thanks to all of you who PM'd me as well. It really showed that a lot of people were following the NP drama and really like sharing titties! 'boob' :wub:
Quitting on down the road!!
Ya, did not really feel qualified to hop in on that one, and it was disturbing on a couple of levels, so I kept my mouth shut and learned. I am much more comfortable with boobies and find them much less disturbing, in fact, comforting. :D
I'm with you Sam83, that end of the pool was over my head so I just watched until someone mentioned the boobie page! :P
Here's to comfortable boobies!
'worship'
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Day 29 - Post for future reference - lately I've been on cruise control but ever watchful. Having a crave or two daily but nothing that's too bad. I've got some pretty stressful things going on at home and work but it hasnt been a temptation to dampen or ease that with nicotine because I have the simple saying I learned on here "1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems"
I post roll and read on here all day and that really helps too.
Quitting with KTC today!
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Day 29 - Post for future reference - lately I've been on cruise control but ever watchful. Having a crave or two daily but nothing that's too bad. I've got some pretty stressful things going on at home and work but it hasnt been a temptation to dampen or ease that with nicotine because I have the simple saying I learned on here "1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems"
I post roll and read on here all day and that really helps too.
Quitting with KTC today!
Way to stay vigilant. Understanding yourself denies the ability to become complacent! The biggest downfall I know here, other then getting drunk early in a quit! Keep going strong.
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Day 29 - Post for future reference - lately I've been on cruise control but ever watchful. Having a crave or two daily but nothing that's too bad. I've got some pretty stressful things going on at home and work but it hasnt been a temptation to dampen or ease that with nicotine because I have the simple saying I learned on here "1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems"
I post roll and read on here all day and that really helps too.
Quitting with KTC today!
Congrats on 29 days of vigilance. Daily vigilance in our case to get our freedom back. I also find reading on here helps, and posting a note or two after roll. I also tried "live chat" the other evening. That was fun and a few people in there I knew. We all have that common bond. Get as far away from the nic bitch as possible! Quit on man.
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Day 30 - Here's a little secret - I started this quest for financial reasons. My insurance under the new law was going to go up by $2000 per year as a tobacco user. Non-tobacco user cost (which was about $400 cheaper than tobacco user in 2013) was unchanged. Add in cost of skoal-assume $4.50/can x 365 days = $1643. Add it all up, dipping was going to cost me $4000 in 2014.
I signed up for new 2014 insurance in November 2013 during open enrollment but kept dipping because, as I justified it, I was already paying for it so I might as well use it.
January 1 2014 kicks in and new insurance starts and I quit. Initially, I thought "well if I can't live without it, I can switch insurance back to tobacco user and just pay more"
Then I made it through the first day, then I made it through the second day and the third day, then I posted roll for the first time and started hanging out with you people and the next thing I know....
I am at 30 days!
Today, I am not quit for financial reasons, even though my cost of a cave grows by $5.50 per day. I am quit because I want to be quit and because I am proud to be quit.
Quitting with KTC again today!
PS - I just read back through all of my prior posts on this thread and it really struck me how great this community is! In the last 30 days I've had more supportive comments from new friends than I've gotten in my whole life from the rest of the world. Amazing stuff!
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Day 30 - Here's a little secret - I started this quest for financial reasons. My insurance under the new law was going to go up by $2000 per year as a tobacco user. Non-tobacco user cost (which was about $400 cheaper than tobacco user in 2013) was unchanged. Add in cost of skoal-assume $4.50/can x 365 days = $1643. Add it all up, dipping was going to cost me $4000 in 2014.
I signed up for new 2014 insurance in November 2013 during open enrollment but kept dipping because, as I justified it, I was already paying for it so I might as well use it.
January 1 2014 kicks in and new insurance starts and I quit. Initially, I thought "well if I can't live without it, I can switch insurance back to tobacco user and just pay more"
Then I made it through the first day, then I made it through the second day and the third day, then I posted roll for the first time and started hanging out with you people and the next thing I know....
I am at 30 days!
Today, I am not quit for financial reasons, even though my cost of a cave grows by $5.50 per day. I am quit because I want to be quit and because I am proud to be quit.
Quitting with KTC again today!
PS - I just read back through all of my prior posts on this thread and it really struck me how great this community is! In the last 30 days I've had more supportive comments from new friends than I've gotten in my whole life from the rest of the world. Amazing stuff!
'BanDog'
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Day 30 - Here's a little secret - I started this quest for financial reasons. My insurance under the new law was going to go up by $2000 per year as a tobacco user. Non-tobacco user cost (which was about $400 cheaper than tobacco user in 2013) was unchanged. Add in cost of skoal-assume $4.50/can x 365 days = $1643. Add it all up, dipping was going to cost me $4000 in 2014.
I signed up for new 2014 insurance in November 2013 during open enrollment but kept dipping because, as I justified it, I was already paying for it so I might as well use it.
January 1 2014 kicks in and new insurance starts and I quit. Initially, I thought "well if I can't live without it, I can switch insurance back to tobacco user and just pay more"
Then I made it through the first day, then I made it through the second day and the third day, then I posted roll for the first time and started hanging out with you people and the next thing I know....
I am at 30 days!
Today, I am not quit for financial reasons, even though my cost of a cave grows by $5.50 per day. I am quit because I want to be quit and because I am proud to be quit.
Quitting with KTC again today!
PS - I just read back through all of my prior posts on this thread and it really struck me how great this community is! In the last 30 days I've had more supportive comments from new friends than I've gotten in my whole life from the rest of the world. Amazing stuff!
'BanDog'
However you got here, I'm glad you made it and are part of the crew now. You just keep sticking around, you and your clown have grown on a lot of us! Keep rocking the quit!
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Day 30 - Here's a little secret - I started this quest for financial reasons. My insurance under the new law was going to go up by $2000 per year as a tobacco user. Non-tobacco user cost (which was about $400 cheaper than tobacco user in 2013) was unchanged. Add in cost of skoal-assume $4.50/can x 365 days = $1643. Add it all up, dipping was going to cost me $4000 in 2014.
I signed up for new 2014 insurance in November 2013 during open enrollment but kept dipping because, as I justified it, I was already paying for it so I might as well use it.
January 1 2014 kicks in and new insurance starts and I quit. Initially, I thought "well if I can't live without it, I can switch insurance back to tobacco user and just pay more"
Then I made it through the first day, then I made it through the second day and the third day, then I posted roll for the first time and started hanging out with you people and the next thing I know....
I am at 30 days!
Today, I am not quit for financial reasons, even though my cost of a cave grows by $5.50 per day. I am quit because I want to be quit and because I am proud to be quit.
Quitting with KTC again today!
PS - I just read back through all of my prior posts on this thread and it really struck me how great this community is! In the last 30 days I've had more supportive comments from new friends than I've gotten in my whole life from the rest of the world. Amazing stuff!
'BanDog'
However you got here, I'm glad you made it and are part of the crew now. You just keep sticking around, you and your clown have grown on a lot of us! Keep rocking the quit!
Congrats on Day 30!!! If the math keeps you quit use it. Try calculating how much cancer would cost you:-) Lost work time, disability only paying out at 60% of your salary, driving back and forth for chemo, parking, straws to suck your food through, etc. Those numbers are staggering!!!! Not to mention your face looking like that disturbing little freak running around on your avatar:-) Enjoy the one month mark brother!
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Day 30 - Here's a little secret - I started this quest for financial reasons. My insurance under the new law was going to go up by $2000 per year as a tobacco user. Non-tobacco user cost (which was about $400 cheaper than tobacco user in 2013) was unchanged. Add in cost of skoal-assume $4.50/can x 365 days = $1643. Add it all up, dipping was going to cost me $4000 in 2014.
I signed up for new 2014 insurance in November 2013 during open enrollment but kept dipping because, as I justified it, I was already paying for it so I might as well use it.
January 1 2014 kicks in and new insurance starts and I quit. Initially, I thought "well if I can't live without it, I can switch insurance back to tobacco user and just pay more"
Then I made it through the first day, then I made it through the second day and the third day, then I posted roll for the first time and started hanging out with you people and the next thing I know....
I am at 30 days!
Today, I am not quit for financial reasons, even though my cost of a cave grows by $5.50 per day. I am quit because I want to be quit and because I am proud to be quit.
Quitting with KTC again today!
PS - I just read back through all of my prior posts on this thread and it really struck me how great this community is! In the last 30 days I've had more supportive comments from new friends than I've gotten in my whole life from the rest of the world. Amazing stuff!
'BanDog'
However you got here, I'm glad you made it and are part of the crew now. You just keep sticking around, you and your clown have grown on a lot of us! Keep rocking the quit!
Congrats on Day 30!!! If the math keeps you quit use it. Try calculating how much cancer would cost you:-) Lost work time, disability only paying out at 60% of your salary, driving back and forth for chemo, parking, straws to suck your food through, etc. Those numbers are staggering!!!! Not to mention your face looking like that disturbing little freak running around on your avatar:-) Enjoy the one month mark brother!
Rock on....stay quit....it just keeps getting better
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Day 30 - Here's a little secret - I started this quest for financial reasons. My insurance under the new law was going to go up by $2000 per year as a tobacco user. Non-tobacco user cost (which was about $400 cheaper than tobacco user in 2013) was unchanged. Add in cost of skoal-assume $4.50/can x 365 days = $1643. Add it all up, dipping was going to cost me $4000 in 2014.
I signed up for new 2014 insurance in November 2013 during open enrollment but kept dipping because, as I justified it, I was already paying for it so I might as well use it.
January 1 2014 kicks in and new insurance starts and I quit. Initially, I thought "well if I can't live without it, I can switch insurance back to tobacco user and just pay more"
Then I made it through the first day, then I made it through the second day and the third day, then I posted roll for the first time and started hanging out with you people and the next thing I know....
I am at 30 days!
Today, I am not quit for financial reasons, even though my cost of a cave grows by $5.50 per day. I am quit because I want to be quit and because I am proud to be quit.
Quitting with KTC again today!
PS - I just read back through all of my prior posts on this thread and it really struck me how great this community is! In the last 30 days I've had more supportive comments from new friends than I've gotten in my whole life from the rest of the world. Amazing stuff!
'BanDog'
However you got here, I'm glad you made it and are part of the crew now. You just keep sticking around, you and your clown have grown on a lot of us! Keep rocking the quit!
Congrats on Day 30!!! If the math keeps you quit use it. Try calculating how much cancer would cost you:-) Lost work time, disability only paying out at 60% of your salary, driving back and forth for chemo, parking, straws to suck your food through, etc. Those numbers are staggering!!!! Not to mention your face looking like that disturbing little freak running around on your avatar:-) Enjoy the one month mark brother!
Rock on....stay quit....it just keeps getting better
Ammo, this whole analytical math equation insurance formula post really cracked me up. I have been following you and zillah. You both get it. Keep going!
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Took my son to see his favorite band last night! Queens of the Stone Age put on a fantastic show in Raleigh. If you like rock and roll, I recommend you catch their act!
And no dipping! Son was proud!
Here's the weird part, woke up this morning feeling guilty. Same way I used to feel when waking up after a heavy drunk when you can't remember parts of the night before but you know some of it was regrettable.
This was one of the most fun evenings I've had in a long time and my brain can't just let me enjoy it. Don't know if this is part of the quit but it was pretty strange.
31 days quit - woot!
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Took my son to see his favorite band last night! Queens of the Stone Age put on a fantastic show in Raleigh. If you like rock and roll, I recommend you catch their act!
And no dipping! Son was proud!
Here's the weird part, woke up this morning feeling guilty. Same way I used to feel when waking up after a heavy drunk when you can't remember parts of the night before but you know some of it was regrettable.
This was one of the most fun evenings I've had in a long time and my brain can't just let me enjoy it. Don't know if this is part of the quit but it was pretty strange.
31 days quit - woot!
Ammo
The only thing I read is that your son was proud of his pops! What else is there!? That's what all this is about. So fucking quit with you!
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Day 34 - Philip Seymour Hoffman died yesterday of a heroin overdose. He was 20 years clean when he caved last year. Very relevant to what we're doing here. He probably gave in to that "just one" mentality and ended up dead on his bathroom floor. As far as I know, you can't OD on skoal but, from what I've read, it is harder to quit than heroin and it can kill you with cancer.
RIP to a fine actor who will be missed. I'm quitting for Phil tomorrow!
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Day 34 - Philip Seymour Hoffman died yesterday of a heroin overdose. He was 20 years clean when he caved last year. Very relevant to what we're doing here. He probably gave in to that "just one" mentality and ended up dead on his bathroom floor. As far as I know, you can't OD on skoal but, from what I've read, it is harder to quit than heroin and it can kill you with cancer.
RIP to a fine actor who will be missed. I'm quitting for Phil tomorrow!
It's good motivation but... Quit for you.
Only.
Always.
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I've got a relative who struggles with heroin addiction. Although I'm extremely thankful I "only" struggle with tobacco addiction, I have now recognized that I need to take it as seriously. I'm quitting for me and Apogeeammo tomorrow.
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Day 36 - rather than type them all out, I'll just say "CURSE WORD!!" to get them all out of the way.
I come here and read to try to help myself quit but lately, man this place has just become a massive drama show. The craves are coming regularly and I'm struggling through a stressful day but I'm not finding any comfort here.
I'm staying quit but I'm going to take a few days off from the site except for posting roll in the morning.
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Day 36 - rather than type them all out, I'll just say "CURSE WORD!!" to get them all out of the way.
I come here and read to try to help myself quit but lately, man this place has just become a massive drama show. The craves are coming regularly and I'm struggling through a stressful day but I'm not finding any comfort here.
I'm staying quit but I'm going to take a few days off from the site except for posting roll in the morning.
Apogee. Take a few days off the site if you need to, just keep posting roll with me okay? I'll even do it for you via text if you want. I think you have my number, but if not just PM me.
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Day 36 - rather than type them all out, I'll just say "CURSE WORD!!" to get them all out of the way.
I come here and read to try to help myself quit but lately, man this place has just become a massive drama show. The craves are coming regularly and I'm struggling through a stressful day but I'm not finding any comfort here.
I'm staying quit but I'm going to take a few days off from the site except for posting roll in the morning.
Apogee. Take a few days off the site if you need to, just keep posting roll with me okay? I'll even do it for you via text if you want. I think you have my number, but if not just PM me.
Breathe in, Breathe out....
I too had a down period in the 30 day range, it is normal. But remember that you are winning. The score is 36-0 and you can keep piling it on by doing just what you have been doing....and that is posting that word of yours and honoring it.
You got this, no sweat. I believe in you. Hell I will quit today standing shoulder to shoulder with you.
So take my sword and gut that nic bitch today.
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Day 36 - rather than type them all out, I'll just say "CURSE WORD!!" to get them all out of the way.
I come here and read to try to help myself quit but lately, man this place has just become a massive drama show. The craves are coming regularly and I'm struggling through a stressful day but I'm not finding any comfort here.
I'm staying quit but I'm going to take a few days off from the site except for posting roll in the morning.
Apogee. Take a few days off the site if you need to, just keep posting roll with me okay? I'll even do it for you via text if you want. I think you have my number, but if not just PM me.
Breathe in, Breathe out....
I too had a down period in the 30 day range, it is normal. But remember that you are winning. The score is 36-0 and you can keep piling it on by doing just what you have been doing....and that is posting that word of yours and honoring it.
You got this, no sweat. I believe in you. Hell I will quit today standing shoulder to shoulder with you.
So take my sword and gut that nic bitch today.
Ap - check your inbox.
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Day 36 - rather than type them all out, I'll just say "CURSE WORD!!" to get them all out of the way.
I come here and read to try to help myself quit but lately, man this place has just become a massive drama show. The craves are coming regularly and I'm struggling through a stressful day but I'm not finding any comfort here.
I'm staying quit but I'm going to take a few days off from the site except for posting roll in the morning.
Apogee. Take a few days off the site if you need to, just keep posting roll with me okay? I'll even do it for you via text if you want. I think you have my number, but if not just PM me.
Breathe in, Breathe out....
I too had a down period in the 30 day range, it is normal. But remember that you are winning. The score is 36-0 and you can keep piling it on by doing just what you have been doing....and that is posting that word of yours and honoring it.
You got this, no sweat. I believe in you. Hell I will quit today standing shoulder to shoulder with you.
So take my sword and gut that nic bitch today.
Ap - check your inbox.
Post roll, take what you need and leave the rest. Get back when refreshed.
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So take my sword
Calling Gmann, Calling Gmann.
That is just like shinning the bat spotlight for batman.
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So take my sword
Calling Gmann, Calling Gmann.
That is just like shinning the bat spotlight for batman.
'na na'
was wondering when someone would 'grab' that.
nice distraction....ain't it.... 'crackup'
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Day 36 - rather than type them all out, I'll just say "CURSE WORD!!" to get them all out of the way.
I come here and read to try to help myself quit but lately, man this place has just become a massive drama show. The craves are coming regularly and I'm struggling through a stressful day but I'm not finding any comfort here.
I'm staying quit but I'm going to take a few days off from the site except for posting roll in the morning.
Apogee. Take a few days off the site if you need to, just keep posting roll with me okay? I'll even do it for you via text if you want. I think you have my number, but if not just PM me.
Breathe in, Breathe out....
I too had a down period in the 30 day range, it is normal. But remember that you are winning. The score is 36-0 and you can keep piling it on by doing just what you have been doing....and that is posting that word of yours and honoring it.
You got this, no sweat. I believe in you. Hell I will quit today standing shoulder to shoulder with you.
So take my sword and gut that nic bitch today.
Ap - check your inbox.
Post roll, take what you need and leave the rest. Get back when refreshed.
If you want a good relief from the drama areas in here, look in Wildcard and look at boobies, play the 1, 2 or 3 word games or just read some of the funny shit. This place is never drama free because everyone of us is pushing out a chemical imbalance from our bodies.
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Day 37 - Thanks to everyone who contacted me yesterday with words of support and kicks in the pants. One good thing about saying I was going to avoid posting on the site was I tested out the PM and Text part of my support plan and it worked great!
Quitting with all of my buds today! My resolve to quit is much stronger than my resolve to stay away from here.
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Day 37 - Thanks to everyone who contacted me yesterday with words of support and kicks in the pants. One good thing about saying I was going to avoid posting on the site was I tested out the PM and Text part of my support plan and it worked great!
Quitting with all of my buds today! My resolve to quit is much stronger than my resolve to stay away from here.
Im glad you are here this morning my resolute bastard bro. QLFEDD
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One day when I'm a grizzled up old veteran on here with over 60 Resolute Bastards still quit with me I look forward to telling some snot nosed new quitter whining about the drama on KTC (like I was a few days ago) that KTC is like Florida weather, if you don't like it now, just wait a few hours and it will change!
After all of the drama a few days ago, this morning is all love and support and talking about how great this site is for our quit!
I agree and I'm sure all of the vets knew it was coming but I continue to be amazed at what this place and this group mean to me and my quit!
Quit on KTC!
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One day when I'm a grizzled up old veteran on here with over 60 Resolute Bastards still quit with me I look forward to telling some snot nosed new quitter whining about the drama on KTC (like I was a few days ago) that KTC is like Florida weather, if you don't like it now, just wait a few hours and it will change!
After all of the drama a few days ago, this morning is all love and support and talking about how great this site is for our quit!
I agree and I'm sure all of the vets knew it was coming but I continue to be amazed at what this place and this group mean to me and my quit!
Quit on KTC!
I will sit on that front porch with ya!
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One day when I'm a grizzled up old veteran on here with over 60 Resolute Bastards still quit with me I look forward to telling some snot nosed new quitter whining about the drama on KTC (like I was a few days ago) that KTC is like Florida weather, if you don't like it now, just wait a few hours and it will change!
After all of the drama a few days ago, this morning is all love and support and talking about how great this site is for our quit!
I agree and I'm sure all of the vets knew it was coming but I continue to be amazed at what this place and this group mean to me and my quit!
Quit on KTC!
Me too, I'll be there as well! And look who just turned 39 you resolute bastard you! :-) Congrats Apogee. Life is good!
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...and by the way, congrats and welcome to the forties....!
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Day 45 - Interesting thing happened today. I work at a tobacco free facility, so in the past when I dipped we went to the bridge (an overpass close to the plant) to use. As you'd expect there was a group of us that went together periodically so we could talk and feed the bitch. One guy I went with regularly stopped dipping with me on Dec 31 and had been stopped for several weeks. I shared KTC with him and urged him to join but he thought he could do it alone.
I went on a 4 day trip this week and today when I got back to the plant, he asked me if I wanted to go to the bridge. I asked why and he said "for old time's sake for you and so I can have a dip!" He had caved.
I DECLINED!!! 'Finger'
My quit is not really fragile at this point but it's not exactly strong either so I chose to avoid the temptation of "just one".
Proud of me and quit with you KTC! 'oh yeah'
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Day 45 - Interesting thing happened today. I work at a tobacco free facility, so in the past when I dipped we went to the bridge (an overpass close to the plant) to use. As you'd expect there was a group of us that went together periodically so we could talk and feed the bitch. One guy I went with regularly stopped dipping with me on Dec 31 and had been stopped for several weeks. I shared KTC with him and urged him to join but he thought he could do it alone.
I went on a 4 day trip this week and today when I got back to the plant, he asked me if I wanted to go to the bridge. I asked why and he said "for old time's sake for you and so I can have a dip!" He had caved.
I DECLINED!!! 'Finger'
My quit is not really fragile at this point but it's not exactly strong either so I chose to avoid the temptation of "just one".
Proud of me and quit with you KTC! 'oh yeah'
proud of you too man- keep it up!
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Day 45 - Interesting thing happened today. I work at a tobacco free facility, so in the past when I dipped we went to the bridge (an overpass close to the plant) to use. As you'd expect there was a group of us that went together periodically so we could talk and feed the bitch. One guy I went with regularly stopped dipping with me on Dec 31 and had been stopped for several weeks. I shared KTC with him and urged him to join but he thought he could do it alone.
I went on a 4 day trip this week and today when I got back to the plant, he asked me if I wanted to go to the bridge. I asked why and he said "for old time's sake for you and so I can have a dip!" He had caved.
I DECLINED!!! 'Finger'
My quit is not really fragile at this point but it's not exactly strong either so I chose to avoid the temptation of "just one".
Proud of me and quit with you KTC! 'oh yeah'
proud of you too man- keep it up!
Avoidance of triggers is a plan!!!! Good decision!!! Keep it going!!!
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Day 45 - Interesting thing happened today. I work at a tobacco free facility, so in the past when I dipped we went to the bridge (an overpass close to the plant) to use. As you'd expect there was a group of us that went together periodically so we could talk and feed the bitch. One guy I went with regularly stopped dipping with me on Dec 31 and had been stopped for several weeks. I shared KTC with him and urged him to join but he thought he could do it alone.
I went on a 4 day trip this week and today when I got back to the plant, he asked me if I wanted to go to the bridge. I asked why and he said "for old time's sake for you and so I can have a dip!" He had caved.
I DECLINED!!! 'Finger'
My quit is not really fragile at this point but it's not exactly strong either so I chose to avoid the temptation of "just one".
Proud of me and quit with you KTC! 'oh yeah'
proud of you too man- keep it up!
Avoidance of triggers is a plan!!!! Good decision!!! Keep it going!!!
BOOM! Great, Nice, and Awesome Ammo! Lots of little lessons in that story. Thanks! http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/s (http://www.picgifs.com/smileys/s) ;Ironman:
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Congrats on 50 solid days! Keep fighting!
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Congrats on 50 solid days! Keep fighting!
You are quitting like you mean it Apo. Keep at it! 50 days of quit is bada$$! Keep this thing rolling today.
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Congrats on 50 solid days! Keep fighting!
You are quitting like you mean it Apo. Keep at it! 50 days of quit is bada$$! Keep this thing rolling today.
Who's got a fuckin'-A quit goin' on? Apogee's got a fuckin'-A quit goin' on! Nice job brother. Nifty Fifty!!!
ZC
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Congrats on 50 solid days! Keep fighting!
You are quitting like you mean it Apo. Keep at it! 50 days of quit is bada$$! Keep this thing rolling today.
Who's got a fuckin'-A quit goin' on? Apogee's got a fuckin'-A quit goin' on! Nice job brother. Nifty Fifty!!!
ZC
Congrats on 50!!! Proud to be quit with you. 'oh yeah'
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Day 65 - First of all, I have a hard time believing that by adding +1 every day I've gotten to 65! This site is amazing in what it has helped me to do. The people on here are strangers who give a shit about my quit and want me to be successful.
Over the years, I've stopped on the side of the road to help stranded motorists and motorcyclists several times, usually in out-of-the-way places where other help was not immediately obvious. They are usually surprised that someone offered to help. This site shows that there are a lot more people out there who are good samaritans and I'm fortunate to have found it.
Yesterday, had a debate with Derk40 and others on Steakbomb's intro page about how to welcome back cavers and Derk sent me a PM making sure we were okay! I don't know Derk from Adam's housecat but he wanted to make sure he didn't offend me! How neat is that? That's what its all about and yes Derk I did see your point and I appreciate that you saw mine.
Our point (and Steakbomb's original point) was that we are all supporting each other and when one of us caves and comes back that person can expect to get a wide range of responses from an amazing amount of people who want to help them stay quit this time.
I'm quit today with Derk40, Steakbomb, rdad and Mogul! Thanks Guys!
AA
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Day 65 - First of all, I have a hard time believing that by adding +1 every day I've gotten to 65! This site is amazing in what it has helped me to do. The people on here are strangers who give a shit about my quit and want me to be successful.
Over the years, I've stopped on the side of the road to help stranded motorists and motorcyclists several times, usually in out-of-the-way places where other help was not immediately obvious. They are usually surprised that someone offered to help. This site shows that there are a lot more people out there who are good samaritans and I'm fortunate to have found it.
Yesterday, had a debate with Derk40 and others on Steakbomb's intro page about how to welcome back cavers and Derk sent me a PM making sure we were okay! I don't know Derk from Adam's housecat but he wanted to make sure he didn't offend me! How neat is that? That's what its all about and yes Derk I did see your point and I appreciate that you saw mine.
Our point (and Steakbomb's original point) was that we are all supporting each other and when one of us caves and comes back that person can expect to get a wide range of responses from an amazing amount of people who want to help them stay quit this time.
I'm quit today with Derk40, Steakbomb, rdad and Mogul! Thanks Guys!
AA
Hey AA first off, believe it man. Every +1 takes you a step further in your quit, and at 65 days free, that is awesome brother. And secondly the guys you mentioned are awesome guys, solid quitters and probably would make great friends outside of KTC. This site is awesome and so are you. Thanks for sharing!
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Day 65 - First of all, I have a hard time believing that by adding +1 every day I've gotten to 65! This site is amazing in what it has helped me to do. The people on here are strangers who give a shit about my quit and want me to be successful.Â
Over the years, I've stopped on the side of the road to help stranded motorists and motorcyclists several times, usually in out-of-the-way places where other help was not immediately obvious. They are usually surprised that someone offered to help. This site shows that there are a lot more people out there who are good samaritans and I'm fortunate to have found it.
Yesterday, had a debate with Derk40 and others on Steakbomb's intro page about how to welcome back cavers and Derk sent me a PM making sure we were okay! I don't know Derk from Adam's housecat but he wanted to make sure he didn't offend me! How neat is that? That's what its all about and yes Derk I did see your point and I appreciate that you saw mine.
Our point (and Steakbomb's original point) was that we are all supporting each other and when one of us caves and comes back that person can expect to get a wide range of responses from an amazing amount of people who want to help them stay quit this time.
I'm quit today with Derk40, Steakbomb, rdad and Mogul! Thanks Guys!
AA
Hey AA first off, believe it man. Every +1 takes you a step further in your quit, and at 65 days free, that is awesome brother. And secondly the guys you mentioned are awesome guys, solid quitters and probably would make great friends outside of KTC. This site is awesome and so are you. Thanks for sharing!
Well said AA! Awesome things going on here at KTC. "I love yins guys" :wub: Congrats on 65!
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Day 65 - First of all, I have a hard time believing that by adding +1 every day I've gotten to 65! This site is amazing in what it has helped me to do. The people on here are strangers who give a shit about my quit and want me to be successful.Â
Over the years, I've stopped on the side of the road to help stranded motorists and motorcyclists several times, usually in out-of-the-way places where other help was not immediately obvious. They are usually surprised that someone offered to help. This site shows that there are a lot more people out there who are good samaritans and I'm fortunate to have found it.
Yesterday, had a debate with Derk40 and others on Steakbomb's intro page about how to welcome back cavers and Derk sent me a PM making sure we were okay! I don't know Derk from Adam's housecat but he wanted to make sure he didn't offend me! How neat is that? That's what its all about and yes Derk I did see your point and I appreciate that you saw mine.
Our point (and Steakbomb's original point) was that we are all supporting each other and when one of us caves and comes back that person can expect to get a wide range of responses from an amazing amount of people who want to help them stay quit this time.
I'm quit today with Derk40, Steakbomb, rdad and Mogul! Thanks Guys!
AA
Hey AA first off, believe it man. Every +1 takes you a step further in your quit, and at 65 days free, that is awesome brother. And secondly the guys you mentioned are awesome guys, solid quitters and probably would make great friends outside of KTC. This site is awesome and so are you. Thanks for sharing!
Well said AA! Awesome things going on here at KTC. "I love yins guys" :wub: Congrats on 65!
Likewise brother. Yesterday's debate had 1 common theme. 1 common outcome. Regardless of how one approaches the caver...we want that caver to quit and stay quit. That's why I don't think there is a right or wrong answer there.
Apo, you said something that I'd like you to reconsider in your thought process, and I say this to you because someone changed my thoughts on this. Early in my quit I said to rdad something along the lines of, "I don't know you but..." Rdad responded to me with, "oh, but we do know each other"...linked by our addiction. I know your addiction and you know mine. I know about your quit and I know you are quit. You know the same about me. You know the same about everybody you mentioned in that post. So, like rdad told me I will say to you; we do know each other. I would argue that through KTC we know each other quite differently than many people in your life know you. Pretty F'in cool if you ask me.
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Day 65 - First of all, I have a hard time believing that by adding +1 every day I've gotten to 65! This site is amazing in what it has helped me to do. The people on here are strangers who give a shit about my quit and want me to be successful.Â
Over the years, I've stopped on the side of the road to help stranded motorists and motorcyclists several times, usually in out-of-the-way places where other help was not immediately obvious. They are usually surprised that someone offered to help. This site shows that there are a lot more people out there who are good samaritans and I'm fortunate to have found it.
Yesterday, had a debate with Derk40 and others on Steakbomb's intro page about how to welcome back cavers and Derk sent me a PM making sure we were okay! I don't know Derk from Adam's housecat but he wanted to make sure he didn't offend me! How neat is that? That's what its all about and yes Derk I did see your point and I appreciate that you saw mine.
Our point (and Steakbomb's original point) was that we are all supporting each other and when one of us caves and comes back that person can expect to get a wide range of responses from an amazing amount of people who want to help them stay quit this time.
I'm quit today with Derk40, Steakbomb, rdad and Mogul! Thanks Guys!
AA
Hey AA first off, believe it man. Every +1 takes you a step further in your quit, and at 65 days free, that is awesome brother. And secondly the guys you mentioned are awesome guys, solid quitters and probably would make great friends outside of KTC. This site is awesome and so are you. Thanks for sharing!
Well said AA! Awesome things going on here at KTC. "I love yins guys" :wub: Congrats on 65!
Likewise brother. Yesterday's debate had 1 common theme. 1 common outcome. Regardless of how one approaches the caver...we want that caver to quit and stay quit. That's why I don't think there is a right or wrong answer there.
Apo, you said something that I'd like you to reconsider in your thought process, and I say this to you because someone changed my thoughts on this. Early in my quit I said to rdad something along the lines of, "I don't know you but..." Rdad responded to me with, "oh, but we do know each other"...linked by our addiction. I know your addiction and you know mine. I know about your quit and I know you are quit. You know the same about me. You know the same about everybody you mentioned in that post. So, like rdad told me I will say to you; we do know each other. I would argue that through KTC we know each other quite differently than many people in your life know you. Pretty F'in cool if you ask me.
Ammo, you are not messing around. You take this shit seriously and I love that about you! 'oh yeah' But.......................
your avatar STILL creeps me out! :P
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Ammo, keep adding the plus ones. before you know it, your past HOF and some things change. But if you quit for you and no one else, your quit will be super strong. Our Feb quit group is holding together pretty tight, but it is easy to let go of KTC and go it alone. Its OK, you are equipped to beat the bitch, but it is much easier if you are involved. regardless, I quit with ya my friend. and YES your avatar is fucking creepy. Sorry but the truth hurts only if it should.
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Day 65 - First of all, I have a hard time believing that by adding +1 every day I've gotten to 65! This site is amazing in what it has helped me to do. The people on here are strangers who give a shit about my quit and want me to be successful.Â
Over the years, I've stopped on the side of the road to help stranded motorists and motorcyclists several times, usually in out-of-the-way places where other help was not immediately obvious. They are usually surprised that someone offered to help. This site shows that there are a lot more people out there who are good samaritans and I'm fortunate to have found it.
Yesterday, had a debate with Derk40 and others on Steakbomb's intro page about how to welcome back cavers and Derk sent me a PM making sure we were okay! I don't know Derk from Adam's housecat but he wanted to make sure he didn't offend me! How neat is that? That's what its all about and yes Derk I did see your point and I appreciate that you saw mine.
Our point (and Steakbomb's original point) was that we are all supporting each other and when one of us caves and comes back that person can expect to get a wide range of responses from an amazing amount of people who want to help them stay quit this time.
I'm quit today with Derk40, Steakbomb, rdad and Mogul! Thanks Guys!
AA
Hey AA first off, believe it man. Every +1 takes you a step further in your quit, and at 65 days free, that is awesome brother. And secondly the guys you mentioned are awesome guys, solid quitters and probably would make great friends outside of KTC. This site is awesome and so are you. Thanks for sharing!
Well said AA! Awesome things going on here at KTC. "I love yins guys" :wub: Congrats on 65!
Likewise brother. Yesterday's debate had 1 common theme. 1 common outcome. Regardless of how one approaches the caver...we want that caver to quit and stay quit. That's why I don't think there is a right or wrong answer there.
Apo, you said something that I'd like you to reconsider in your thought process, and I say this to you because someone changed my thoughts on this. Early in my quit I said to rdad something along the lines of, "I don't know you but..." Rdad responded to me with, "oh, but we do know each other"...linked by our addiction. I know your addiction and you know mine. I know about your quit and I know you are quit. You know the same about me. You know the same about everybody you mentioned in that post. So, like rdad told me I will say to you; we do know each other. I would argue that through KTC we know each other quite differently than many people in your life know you. Pretty F'in cool if you ask me.
Ammo, you are not messing around. You take this shit seriously and I love that about you! 'oh yeah' But.......................
your avatar STILL creeps me out! :P
Thanks for the note Apo! That was some good discussion yesterday. The key thing we all remembered was that we are all on the same team. We are the home team and we are at war with the NIC B. We talked thru the issue, everyone got out their thoughts out and now we remain focused on doing whatever we need to do to stay quit today.
I was out of pocket most of the day and unable to respond earlier, but I was really glad to read your post this morning. This is what the brotherhood at KTC is all about. Both you, steakbomb, rdad and mogul are top flight quitters and I'm very proud to be quitting with you all this fine day!
Quit on!
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Day 65 - First of all, I have a hard time believing that by adding +1 every day I've gotten to 65! This site is amazing in what it has helped me to do. The people on here are strangers who give a shit about my quit and want me to be successful.Â
Over the years, I've stopped on the side of the road to help stranded motorists and motorcyclists several times, usually in out-of-the-way places where other help was not immediately obvious. They are usually surprised that someone offered to help. This site shows that there are a lot more people out there who are good samaritans and I'm fortunate to have found it.
Yesterday, had a debate with Derk40 and others on Steakbomb's intro page about how to welcome back cavers and Derk sent me a PM making sure we were okay! I don't know Derk from Adam's housecat but he wanted to make sure he didn't offend me! How neat is that? That's what its all about and yes Derk I did see your point and I appreciate that you saw mine.
Our point (and Steakbomb's original point) was that we are all supporting each other and when one of us caves and comes back that person can expect to get a wide range of responses from an amazing amount of people who want to help them stay quit this time.
I'm quit today with Derk40, Steakbomb, rdad and Mogul! Thanks Guys!
AA
Hey AA first off, believe it man. Every +1 takes you a step further in your quit, and at 65 days free, that is awesome brother. And secondly the guys you mentioned are awesome guys, solid quitters and probably would make great friends outside of KTC. This site is awesome and so are you. Thanks for sharing!
Well said AA! Awesome things going on here at KTC. "I love yins guys" :wub: Congrats on 65!
Likewise brother. Yesterday's debate had 1 common theme. 1 common outcome. Regardless of how one approaches the caver...we want that caver to quit and stay quit. That's why I don't think there is a right or wrong answer there.
Apo, you said something that I'd like you to reconsider in your thought process, and I say this to you because someone changed my thoughts on this. Early in my quit I said to rdad something along the lines of, "I don't know you but..." Rdad responded to me with, "oh, but we do know each other"...linked by our addiction. I know your addiction and you know mine. I know about your quit and I know you are quit. You know the same about me. You know the same about everybody you mentioned in that post. So, like rdad told me I will say to you; we do know each other. I would argue that through KTC we know each other quite differently than many people in your life know you. Pretty F'in cool if you ask me.
Ammo, you are not messing around. You take this shit seriously and I love that about you! 'oh yeah' But.......................
your avatar STILL creeps me out! :P
Thanks for the note Apo! That was some good discussion yesterday. The key thing we all remembered was that we are all on the same team. We are the home team and we are at war with the NIC B. We talked thru the issue, everyone got out their thoughts out and now we remain focused on doing whatever we need to do to stay quit today.
I was out of pocket most of the day and unable to respond earlier, but I was really glad to read your post this morning. This is what the brotherhood at KTC is all about. Both you, steakbomb, rdad and mogul are top flight quitters and I'm very proud to be quitting with you all this fine day!
Quit on!
Steakbomb, that is a great point that you paid forward and I will remember it! You are correct, we do know things about each other that people outside KTC can't understand.
Quitting with all of you again today!
PS: My little buddy is staying for a little while longer!
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Day 65 - First of all, I have a hard time believing that by adding +1 every day I've gotten to 65! This site is amazing in what it has helped me to do. The people on here are strangers who give a shit about my quit and want me to be successful.Â
Over the years, I've stopped on the side of the road to help stranded motorists and motorcyclists several times, usually in out-of-the-way places where other help was not immediately obvious. They are usually surprised that someone offered to help. This site shows that there are a lot more people out there who are good samaritans and I'm fortunate to have found it.
Yesterday, had a debate with Derk40 and others on Steakbomb's intro page about how to welcome back cavers and Derk sent me a PM making sure we were okay! I don't know Derk from Adam's housecat but he wanted to make sure he didn't offend me! How neat is that? That's what its all about and yes Derk I did see your point and I appreciate that you saw mine.
Our point (and Steakbomb's original point) was that we are all supporting each other and when one of us caves and comes back that person can expect to get a wide range of responses from an amazing amount of people who want to help them stay quit this time.
I'm quit today with Derk40, Steakbomb, rdad and Mogul! Thanks Guys!
AA
Hey AA first off, believe it man. Every +1 takes you a step further in your quit, and at 65 days free, that is awesome brother. And secondly the guys you mentioned are awesome guys, solid quitters and probably would make great friends outside of KTC. This site is awesome and so are you. Thanks for sharing!
Well said AA! Awesome things going on here at KTC. "I love yins guys" :wub: Congrats on 65!
Likewise brother. Yesterday's debate had 1 common theme. 1 common outcome. Regardless of how one approaches the caver...we want that caver to quit and stay quit. That's why I don't think there is a right or wrong answer there.
Apo, you said something that I'd like you to reconsider in your thought process, and I say this to you because someone changed my thoughts on this. Early in my quit I said to rdad something along the lines of, "I don't know you but..." Rdad responded to me with, "oh, but we do know each other"...linked by our addiction. I know your addiction and you know mine. I know about your quit and I know you are quit. You know the same about me. You know the same about everybody you mentioned in that post. So, like rdad told me I will say to you; we do know each other. I would argue that through KTC we know each other quite differently than many people in your life know you. Pretty F'in cool if you ask me.
Ammo, you are not messing around. You take this shit seriously and I love that about you! 'oh yeah' But.......................
your avatar STILL creeps me out! :P
Thanks for the note Apo! That was some good discussion yesterday. The key thing we all remembered was that we are all on the same team. We are the home team and we are at war with the NIC B. We talked thru the issue, everyone got out their thoughts out and now we remain focused on doing whatever we need to do to stay quit today.
I was out of pocket most of the day and unable to respond earlier, but I was really glad to read your post this morning. This is what the brotherhood at KTC is all about. Both you, steakbomb, rdad and mogul are top flight quitters and I'm very proud to be quitting with you all this fine day!
Quit on!
Steakbomb, that is a great point that you paid forward and I will remember it! You are correct, we do know things about each other that people outside KTC can't understand.
Quitting with all of you again today!
PS: My little buddy is staying for a little while longer!
^^^ Thats some good stuff right there^^^^^ We are all in this together and only we know that we do this unconditionally because we understand the bitch, the funk, the fog and the rage that sometime we do not have control over. The F'ing avatar is just creepy..FYI dont know if I will emulate that one...
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Sweet 70 today man. Congrats and I quit with you EDD.
ZC
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Sweet 70 today man. Congrats and I quit with you EDD.
ZC
very nice. B)
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Sweet 70 today man. Congrats and I quit with you EDD.
ZC
very nice. B)
You didn't come to clown around, did you? ;)
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Sweet 70 today man. Congrats and I quit with you EDD.
ZC
very nice. B)
You didn't come to clown around, did you? ;)
Thanks all! I've started a new job and I've only had time to post roll and haven't noticed the congrats on 70 until now.
I am so surprised about making it to 71 days now but I'm even more surprised at how easy it was with this site as my enabler!
That's not to suggest that it was easy because its the hardest thing I've done but I'm confident it would not have happened without KTC.
Quitting with KTC again today!
AA
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Day 82 - What a stressful week its been with some interesting things thrown in. I went to a training class in Golden CO and met some new people there that I went to lunch with. Walking back from lunch on the first day, one of the guys pulled out some Copenhagen and threw in a dip. I noticed but didn't say anything until we got back to class and he had spit it out. I decided to do a little "Testifying" about the merits of KTC and spread the word! He said he was a 40 year dipper and had stopped for a few months until his wife bought him a can and told him she couldnt take his irritable shit anymore and please start dipping again! He wasn't interested in hearing the gospel.
What was interesting was that the other guy is stopped for 5 months now cold turkey without the benefit of KTC! I actually had some great conversations with him about how he did it and how his "quit" was going. I use parentheses because he's one of those rare people who periodically "quits" for several months and then goes back to dipping so he says "quit" but he is really just stopping for a little while. I'm confident that he will cave again but at least this time he knows about KTC and can look it up when he gets serious.
Basically it just reinforced to me that KTC posting roll and reading on here is how I do this QUIT for 82 days and for TODAY! Good learnings this week about my resolve and understanding that I have to do this for myself.
AA
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Day 82 - What a stressful week its been with some interesting things thrown in. I went to a training class in Golden CO and met some new people there that I went to lunch with. Walking back from lunch on the first day, one of the guys pulled out some Copenhagen and threw in a dip. I noticed but didn't say anything until we got back to class and he had spit it out. I decided to do a little "Testifying" about the merits of KTC and spread the word! He said he was a 40 year dipper and had stopped for a few months until his wife bought him a can and told him she couldnt take his irritable shit anymore and please start dipping again! He wasn't interested in hearing the gospel.
What was interesting was that the other guy is stopped for 5 months now cold turkey without the benefit of KTC! I actually had some great conversations with him about how he did it and how his "quit" was going. I use parentheses because he's one of those rare people who periodically "quits" for several months and then goes back to dipping so he says "quit" but he is really just stopping for a little while. I'm confident that he will cave again but at least this time he knows about KTC and can look it up when he gets serious.
Basically it just reinforced to me that KTC posting roll and reading on here is how I do this QUIT for 82 days and for TODAY! Good learnings this week about my resolve and understanding that I have to do this for myself.
AA
"Today has just been one crave after another! As soon as I get out of one for a few minutes the next one starts creeping in! They move on fast but keep coming. I am not liking this at all."
This was you on day 7.
I just re-read your most recent post about KTC preaching, then re-read your day-7 crave dealings. Quite a remarkable difference if you ask me. First one is a badass in the making and the second one is a badass quitter kickin' some quit knowledge around to some non-badass stoppers.
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Day 82 - What a stressful week its been with some interesting things thrown in. I went to a training class in Golden CO and met some new people there that I went to lunch with. Walking back from lunch on the first day, one of the guys pulled out some Copenhagen and threw in a dip. I noticed but didn't say anything until we got back to class and he had spit it out. I decided to do a little "Testifying" about the merits of KTC and spread the word! He said he was a 40 year dipper and had stopped for a few months until his wife bought him a can and told him she couldnt take his irritable shit anymore and please start dipping again! He wasn't interested in hearing the gospel.
What was interesting was that the other guy is stopped for 5 months now cold turkey without the benefit of KTC! I actually had some great conversations with him about how he did it and how his "quit" was going. I use parentheses because he's one of those rare people who periodically "quits" for several months and then goes back to dipping so he says "quit" but he is really just stopping for a little while. I'm confident that he will cave again but at least this time he knows about KTC and can look it up when he gets serious.
Basically it just reinforced to me that KTC posting roll and reading on here is how I do this QUIT for 82 days and for TODAY! Good learnings this week about my resolve and understanding that I have to do this for myself.
AA
"Today has just been one crave after another! As soon as I get out of one for a few minutes the next one starts creeping in! They move on fast but keep coming. I am not liking this at all."
This was you on day 7.
I just re-read your most recent post about KTC preaching, then re-read your day-7 crave dealings. Quite a remarkable difference if you ask me. First one is a badass in the making and the second one is a badass quitter kickin' some quit knowledge around to some non-badass stoppers.
82 days of quit is outstanding! You are seeing things clearly today. Today you are free. Proud of you AA! Quit on!
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Day 82 - What a stressful week its been with some interesting things thrown in. I went to a training class in Golden CO and met some new people there that I went to lunch with. Walking back from lunch on the first day, one of the guys pulled out some Copenhagen and threw in a dip. I noticed but didn't say anything until we got back to class and he had spit it out. I decided to do a little "Testifying" about the merits of KTC and spread the word! He said he was a 40 year dipper and had stopped for a few months until his wife bought him a can and told him she couldnt take his irritable shit anymore and please start dipping again! He wasn't interested in hearing the gospel.
What was interesting was that the other guy is stopped for 5 months now cold turkey without the benefit of KTC! I actually had some great conversations with him about how he did it and how his "quit" was going. I use parentheses because he's one of those rare people who periodically "quits" for several months and then goes back to dipping so he says "quit" but he is really just stopping for a little while. I'm confident that he will cave again but at least this time he knows about KTC and can look it up when he gets serious.
Basically it just reinforced to me that KTC posting roll and reading on here is how I do this QUIT for 82 days and for TODAY! Good learnings this week about my resolve and understanding that I have to do this for myself.
AA
"Today has just been one crave after another! As soon as I get out of one for a few minutes the next one starts creeping in! They move on fast but keep coming. I am not liking this at all."
This was you on day 7.
I just re-read your most recent post about KTC preaching, then re-read your day-7 crave dealings. Quite a remarkable difference if you ask me. First one is a badass in the making and the second one is a badass quitter kickin' some quit knowledge around to some non-badass stoppers.
Great work AA, I like seeing fellow quitters that involve more than just KTC and family members in there quit. Let it be known, We Quit Like Fuck By way of KTC.
Excellent job AA
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Day 84, I thought it was just a temporary thing but I now realize that the past week has been white knuckle hell! I'm just hanging on by sheer will and posting roll every day! Craves and thinking about stopping and buying that can! What would it hurt? Would it taste good? Would the buzz be wonderful after 12 weeks without it?
Fuuuuucccckkkkkk you, you BITCH!
I'm not really going to cave but it would be nice to hear from some people about how long this shitass stretch lasted for them.
Quit again today!
AA
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Day 84, I thought it was just a temporary thing but I now realize that the past week has been white knuckle hell! I'm just hanging on by sheer will and posting roll every day! Craves and thinking about stopping and buying that can! What would it hurt? Would it taste good? Would the buzz be wonderful after 12 weeks without it?
Fuuuuucccckkkkkk you, you BITCH!
I'm not really going to cave but it would be nice to hear from some people about how long this shitass stretch lasted for them.
Quit again today!
AA
80's funk, very common. Press on brother.
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Day 84, I thought it was just a temporary thing but I now realize that the past week has been white knuckle hell! I'm just hanging on by sheer will and posting roll every day! Craves and thinking about stopping and buying that can! What would it hurt? Would it taste good? Would the buzz be wonderful after 12 weeks without it?
Fuuuuucccckkkkkk you, you BITCH!
I'm not really going to cave but it would be nice to hear from some people about how long this shitass stretch lasted for them.
Quit again today!
AA
80's funk, very common. Press on brother.
In it with you, quit with you...hang on through it. There is no going back...it will taste like dog shit and the feeling that you let yourself down and those you committed to being quit with down will really f'in SUCK! QLF!!!
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Day 84, I thought it was just a temporary thing but I now realize that the past week has been white knuckle hell! I'm just hanging on by sheer will and posting roll every day! Craves and thinking about stopping and buying that can! What would it hurt? Would it taste good? Would the buzz be wonderful after 12 weeks without it?
Fuuuuucccckkkkkk you, you BITCH!
I'm not really going to cave but it would be nice to hear from some people about how long this shitass stretch lasted for them.
Quit again today!
AA
80's funk, very common. Press on brother.
In it with you, quit with you...hang on through it. There is no going back...it will taste like dog shit and the feeling that you let yourself down and those you committed to being quit with down will really f'in SUCK! QLF!!!
All in all i swear it was a couple weeks or more for me. Funky is right, with better and worse times. Somewhat foggy, lots of "fuck it" feelings, and some hard craves that mostly pissed me off. Just hang in there, you have the tools and the support- use them, that's what theyre for. I'm using them lately myself, around day 150. We can all stay clean if we just follow what we're taught and don't get complacent.
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Day 84, I thought it was just a temporary thing but I now realize that the past week has been white knuckle hell! I'm just hanging on by sheer will and posting roll every day! Craves and thinking about stopping and buying that can! What would it hurt? Would it taste good? Would the buzz be wonderful after 12 weeks without it?
Fuuuuucccckkkkkk you, you BITCH!
I'm not really going to cave but it would be nice to hear from some people about how long this shitass stretch lasted for them.
Quit again today!
AA
80's funk, very common. Press on brother.
In it with you, quit with you...hang on through it. There is no going back...it will taste like dog shit and the feeling that you let yourself down and those you committed to being quit with down will really f'in SUCK! QLF!!!
All in all i swear it was a couple weeks or more for me. Funky is right, with better and worse times. Somewhat foggy, lots of "fuck it" feelings, and some hard craves that mostly pissed me off. Just hang in there, you have the tools and the support- use them, that's what theyre for. I'm using them lately myself, around day 150. We can all stay clean if we just follow what we're taught and don't get complacent.
keep pushing through, remember what has gotten you this far and keep with it,
you got this.
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Day 84, I thought it was just a temporary thing but I now realize that the past week has been white knuckle hell! I'm just hanging on by sheer will and posting roll every day! Craves and thinking about stopping and buying that can! What would it hurt? Would it taste good? Would the buzz be wonderful after 12 weeks without it?
Fuuuuucccckkkkkk you, you BITCH!
I'm not really going to cave but it would be nice to hear from some people about how long this shitass stretch lasted for them.
Quit again today!
AA
80's funk, very common. Press on brother.
In it with you, quit with you...hang on through it. There is no going back...it will taste like dog shit and the feeling that you let yourself down and those you committed to being quit with down will really f'in SUCK! QLF!!!
All in all i swear it was a couple weeks or more for me. Funky is right, with better and worse times. Somewhat foggy, lots of "fuck it" feelings, and some hard craves that mostly pissed me off. Just hang in there, you have the tools and the support- use them, that's what theyre for. I'm using them lately myself, around day 150. We can all stay clean if we just follow what we're taught and don't get complacent.
keep pushing through, remember what has gotten you this far and keep with it,
you got this.
Well... It would taste like garbage and you would feel like a loser. You would go back to being a slave and no longer be a free man. You would have given up your quit and you would have wasted 84 days of badassery! And you would have gone back on your word.
That sounds crappy to me! You have the strength to get thru this. You have done it 84 days in a row. Pure victory quit!
"Sheer will posting roll"... that about sums up my days for the past 275. Some have been easier, some have been crappy.... but in the end it comes down to you AA. You have to own the day your quit.
I had some funks as well... they will pass. You got to power thru it just like you did in the first 20 days or so. Sheer will and posting roll. That is what it takes.
Quit with you all day long!
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Day 84, I thought it was just a temporary thing but I now realize that the past week has been white knuckle hell! I'm just hanging on by sheer will and posting roll every day! Craves and thinking about stopping and buying that can! What would it hurt? Would it taste good? Would the buzz be wonderful after 12 weeks without it?
Fuuuuucccckkkkkk you, you BITCH!
I'm not really going to cave but it would be nice to hear from some people about how long this shitass stretch lasted for them.
Quit again today!
AA
80's funk, very common. Press on brother.
In it with you, quit with you...hang on through it. There is no going back...it will taste like dog shit and the feeling that you let yourself down and those you committed to being quit with down will really f'in SUCK! QLF!!!
All in all i swear it was a couple weeks or more for me. Funky is right, with better and worse times. Somewhat foggy, lots of "fuck it" feelings, and some hard craves that mostly pissed me off. Just hang in there, you have the tools and the support- use them, that's what theyre for. I'm using them lately myself, around day 150. We can all stay clean if we just follow what we're taught and don't get complacent.
keep pushing through, remember what has gotten you this far and keep with it,
you got this.
Well... It would taste like garbage and you would feel like a loser. You would go back to being a slave and no longer be a free man. You would have given up your quit and you would have wasted 84 days of badassery! And you would have gone back on your word.
That sounds crappy to me! You have the strength to get thru this. You have done it 84 days in a row. Pure victory quit!
"Sheer will posting roll"... that about sums up my days for the past 275. Some have been easier, some have been crappy.... but in the end it comes down to you AA. You have to own the day your quit.
I had some funks as well... they will pass. You got to power thru it just like you did in the first 20 days or so. Sheer will and posting roll. That is what it takes.
Quit with you all day long!
That feeling you have is your body throwing a temper tantrum. Just like my kids, it will end.
As they say, "This too shall pass". Not sure when, or how bad it will be, as it's different for everyone. I was completely (and I mean COMPLETELY) worthless for the first 200 days. Couldn't carry on a conversation, couldn't keep a thought, couldn't wipe my ass without poking my fingers through the shit paper.
If you dig deep enough around here, you may even run across the troubles I had with a certain printer...
To the point -
This part sucks. But when you walk through, it is SO much better, and you are SO much stronger against the bitch.
Stay strong.
Stay close to the site.
Stay Quit.
-Nolaq - Day 1,461
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Day 84, I thought it was just a temporary thing but I now realize that the past week has been white knuckle hell! I'm just hanging on by sheer will and posting roll every day! Craves and thinking about stopping and buying that can! What would it hurt? Would it taste good? Would the buzz be wonderful after 12 weeks without it?
Fuuuuucccckkkkkk you, you BITCH!
I'm not really going to cave but it would be nice to hear from some people about how long this shitass stretch lasted for them.
Quit again today!
AA
80's funk, very common. Press on brother.
In it with you, quit with you...hang on through it. There is no going back...it will taste like dog shit and the feeling that you let yourself down and those you committed to being quit with down will really f'in SUCK! QLF!!!
All in all i swear it was a couple weeks or more for me. Funky is right, with better and worse times. Somewhat foggy, lots of "fuck it" feelings, and some hard craves that mostly pissed me off. Just hang in there, you have the tools and the support- use them, that's what theyre for. I'm using them lately myself, around day 150. We can all stay clean if we just follow what we're taught and don't get complacent.
keep pushing through, remember what has gotten you this far and keep with it,
you got this.
Well... It would taste like garbage and you would feel like a loser. You would go back to being a slave and no longer be a free man. You would have given up your quit and you would have wasted 84 days of badassery! And you would have gone back on your word.
That sounds crappy to me! You have the strength to get thru this. You have done it 84 days in a row. Pure victory quit!
"Sheer will posting roll"... that about sums up my days for the past 275. Some have been easier, some have been crappy.... but in the end it comes down to you AA. You have to own the day your quit.
I had some funks as well... they will pass. You got to power thru it just like you did in the first 20 days or so. Sheer will and posting roll. That is what it takes.
Quit with you all day long!
That feeling you have is your body throwing a temper tantrum. Just like my kids, it will end.
As they say, "This too shall pass". Not sure when, or how bad it will be, as it's different for everyone. I was completely (and I mean COMPLETELY) worthless for the first 200 days. Couldn't carry on a conversation, couldn't keep a thought, couldn't wipe my ass without poking my fingers through the shit paper.
If you dig deep enough around here, you may even run across the troubles I had with a certain printer...
To the point -
This part sucks. But when you walk through, it is SO much better, and you are SO much stronger against the bitch.
Stay strong.
Stay close to the site.
Stay Quit.
-Nolaq - Day 1,461
This pain is a sign that you are winning! As with the original suck in the first twenty days, Embrace this and try hard to remember the pain. What a great reminder of how bad this shit was for your body and how you never want to go through this again. Quit with you.
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Day 84, I thought it was just a temporary thing but I now realize that the past week has been white knuckle hell! I'm just hanging on by sheer will and posting roll every day! Craves and thinking about stopping and buying that can! What would it hurt? Would it taste good? Would the buzz be wonderful after 12 weeks without it?
Fuuuuucccckkkkkk you, you BITCH!
I'm not really going to cave but it would be nice to hear from some people about how long this shitass stretch lasted for them.
Quit again today!
AA
80's funk, very common. Press on brother.
In it with you, quit with you...hang on through it. There is no going back...it will taste like dog shit and the feeling that you let yourself down and those you committed to being quit with down will really f'in SUCK! QLF!!!
All in all i swear it was a couple weeks or more for me. Funky is right, with better and worse times. Somewhat foggy, lots of "fuck it" feelings, and some hard craves that mostly pissed me off. Just hang in there, you have the tools and the support- use them, that's what theyre for. I'm using them lately myself, around day 150. We can all stay clean if we just follow what we're taught and don't get complacent.
keep pushing through, remember what has gotten you this far and keep with it,
you got this.
Well... It would taste like garbage and you would feel like a loser. You would go back to being a slave and no longer be a free man. You would have given up your quit and you would have wasted 84 days of badassery! And you would have gone back on your word.
That sounds crappy to me! You have the strength to get thru this. You have done it 84 days in a row. Pure victory quit!
"Sheer will posting roll"... that about sums up my days for the past 275. Some have been easier, some have been crappy.... but in the end it comes down to you AA. You have to own the day your quit.
I had some funks as well... they will pass. You got to power thru it just like you did in the first 20 days or so. Sheer will and posting roll. That is what it takes.
Quit with you all day long!
That feeling you have is your body throwing a temper tantrum. Just like my kids, it will end.
As they say, "This too shall pass". Not sure when, or how bad it will be, as it's different for everyone. I was completely (and I mean COMPLETELY) worthless for the first 200 days. Couldn't carry on a conversation, couldn't keep a thought, couldn't wipe my ass without poking my fingers through the shit paper.
If you dig deep enough around here, you may even run across the troubles I had with a certain printer...
To the point -
This part sucks. But when you walk through, it is SO much better, and you are SO much stronger against the bitch.
Stay strong.
Stay close to the site.
Stay Quit.
-Nolaq - Day 1,461
This pain is a sign that you are winning! As with the original suck in the first twenty days, Embrace this and try hard to remember the pain. What a great reminder of how bad this shit was for your body and how you never want to go through this again. Quit with you.
Thanks to all for the insights and to Derk for the IM! You all reinforced what I thought but it is always nice to know what's normal and what is just me!
Quitting on down the road!
Apogeeammo
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Day 84, I thought it was just a temporary thing but I now realize that the past week has been white knuckle hell! I'm just hanging on by sheer will and posting roll every day! Craves and thinking about stopping and buying that can! What would it hurt? Would it taste good? Would the buzz be wonderful after 12 weeks without it?
Fuuuuucccckkkkkk you, you BITCH!
I'm not really going to cave but it would be nice to hear from some people about how long this shitass stretch lasted for them.
Quit again today!
AA
80's funk, very common. Press on brother.
In it with you, quit with you...hang on through it. There is no going back...it will taste like dog shit and the feeling that you let yourself down and those you committed to being quit with down will really f'in SUCK! QLF!!!
All in all i swear it was a couple weeks or more for me. Funky is right, with better and worse times. Somewhat foggy, lots of "fuck it" feelings, and some hard craves that mostly pissed me off. Just hang in there, you have the tools and the support- use them, that's what theyre for. I'm using them lately myself, around day 150. We can all stay clean if we just follow what we're taught and don't get complacent.
keep pushing through, remember what has gotten you this far and keep with it,
you got this.
Well... It would taste like garbage and you would feel like a loser. You would go back to being a slave and no longer be a free man. You would have given up your quit and you would have wasted 84 days of badassery! And you would have gone back on your word.
That sounds crappy to me! You have the strength to get thru this. You have done it 84 days in a row. Pure victory quit!
"Sheer will posting roll"... that about sums up my days for the past 275. Some have been easier, some have been crappy.... but in the end it comes down to you AA. You have to own the day your quit.
I had some funks as well... they will pass. You got to power thru it just like you did in the first 20 days or so. Sheer will and posting roll. That is what it takes.
Quit with you all day long!
That feeling you have is your body throwing a temper tantrum. Just like my kids, it will end.
As they say, "This too shall pass". Not sure when, or how bad it will be, as it's different for everyone. I was completely (and I mean COMPLETELY) worthless for the first 200 days. Couldn't carry on a conversation, couldn't keep a thought, couldn't wipe my ass without poking my fingers through the shit paper.
If you dig deep enough around here, you may even run across the troubles I had with a certain printer...
To the point -
This part sucks. But when you walk through, it is SO much better, and you are SO much stronger against the bitch.
Stay strong.
Stay close to the site.
Stay Quit.
-Nolaq - Day 1,461
This pain is a sign that you are winning! As with the original suck in the first twenty days, Embrace this and try hard to remember the pain. What a great reminder of how bad this shit was for your body and how you never want to go through this again. Quit with you.
Going back to the can will only solve the problems that nicotine created, which defeats the purpose of quitting. So caving is off the table.
Grab your sack and grind this shit out. You been here 84 days, you got the tools in your belt to De-funk.
As others have said, this is normal. Your body/brain is fucking with you again.
You're smarter than that. You know what to do and you will do it.
You got this shit.
Quit on...
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Day 84, I thought it was just a temporary thing but I now realize that the past week has been white knuckle hell! I'm just hanging on by sheer will and posting roll every day! Craves and thinking about stopping and buying that can! What would it hurt? Would it taste good? Would the buzz be wonderful after 12 weeks without it?
Fuuuuucccckkkkkk you, you BITCH!
I'm not really going to cave but it would be nice to hear from some people about how long this shitass stretch lasted for them.
Quit again today!
AA
80's funk, very common. Press on brother.
In it with you, quit with you...hang on through it. There is no going back...it will taste like dog shit and the feeling that you let yourself down and those you committed to being quit with down will really f'in SUCK! QLF!!!
All in all i swear it was a couple weeks or more for me. Funky is right, with better and worse times. Somewhat foggy, lots of "fuck it" feelings, and some hard craves that mostly pissed me off. Just hang in there, you have the tools and the support- use them, that's what theyre for. I'm using them lately myself, around day 150. We can all stay clean if we just follow what we're taught and don't get complacent.
keep pushing through, remember what has gotten you this far and keep with it,
you got this.
Well... It would taste like garbage and you would feel like a loser. You would go back to being a slave and no longer be a free man. You would have given up your quit and you would have wasted 84 days of badassery! And you would have gone back on your word.
That sounds crappy to me! You have the strength to get thru this. You have done it 84 days in a row. Pure victory quit!
"Sheer will posting roll"... that about sums up my days for the past 275. Some have been easier, some have been crappy.... but in the end it comes down to you AA. You have to own the day your quit.
I had some funks as well... they will pass. You got to power thru it just like you did in the first 20 days or so. Sheer will and posting roll. That is what it takes.
Quit with you all day long!
That feeling you have is your body throwing a temper tantrum. Just like my kids, it will end.
As they say, "This too shall pass". Not sure when, or how bad it will be, as it's different for everyone. I was completely (and I mean COMPLETELY) worthless for the first 200 days. Couldn't carry on a conversation, couldn't keep a thought, couldn't wipe my ass without poking my fingers through the shit paper.
If you dig deep enough around here, you may even run across the troubles I had with a certain printer...
To the point -
This part sucks. But when you walk through, it is SO much better, and you are SO much stronger against the bitch.
Stay strong.
Stay close to the site.
Stay Quit.
-Nolaq - Day 1,461
This pain is a sign that you are winning! As with the original suck in the first twenty days, Embrace this and try hard to remember the pain. What a great reminder of how bad this shit was for your body and how you never want to go through this again. Quit with you.
Going back to the can will only solve the problems that nicotine created, which defeats the purpose of quitting. So caving is off the table.
Grab your sack and grind this shit out. You been here 84 days, you got the tools in your belt to De-funk.
As others have said, this is normal. Your body/brain is fucking with you again.
You're smarter than that. You know what to do and you will do it.
You got this shit.
Quit on...
This funk was the hardest for me by far. You know what I did? Kept pushing. Post roll and keep your word. Quit for today and break it down to minute by minute if you need too.
You got this, Once this passes things will be much better. Keep doing what you are doing. QLF!
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Today is a bullseye for you! Congrats on reaching HOF! True pleasure being on this ride with you. Here's to the next Hundy...ODAAT of course!
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Today is a bullseye for you! Congrats on reaching HOF! True pleasure being on this ride with you. Here's to the next Hundy...ODAAT of course!
Way to quit man. 100 days is very impressive. Enjoy your day, but never let your guard down.
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Today is a bullseye for you! Congrats on reaching HOF! True pleasure being on this ride with you. Here's to the next Hundy...ODAAT of course!
Way to quit man. 100 days is very impressive. Enjoy your day, but never let your guard down.
Congrats on making the HOF!!! Keep it continuing.
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Today is a bullseye for you! Congrats on reaching HOF! True pleasure being on this ride with you. Here's to the next Hundy...ODAAT of course!
Way to quit man. 100 days is very impressive. Enjoy your day, but never let your guard down.
Congrats on making the HOF!!! Keep it continuing.
Congrats AA!
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Today is a bullseye for you! Congrats on reaching HOF! True pleasure being on this ride with you. Here's to the next Hundy...ODAAT of course!
Way to quit man. 100 days is very impressive. Enjoy your day, but never let your guard down.
Congrats on making the HOF!!! Keep it continuing.
Congrats AA!
Congrats on the first milestone. I hope to see that dancing baby wearing the clown mask more.
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Proud of you brotha. Welcome to the first floor. Remember, the view gets better every day we climb another step.
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Today is a bullseye for you! Congrats on reaching HOF! True pleasure being on this ride with you. Here's to the next Hundy...ODAAT of course!
Way to quit man. 100 days is very impressive. Enjoy your day, but never let your guard down.
Congrats on making the HOF!!! Keep it continuing.
Congrats AA!
Congrats on the first milestone. I hope to see that dancing baby wearing the clown mask more.
'BanDog'
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Today is a bullseye for you! Congrats on reaching HOF! True pleasure being on this ride with you. Here's to the next Hundy...ODAAT of course!
Way to quit man. 100 days is very impressive. Enjoy your day, but never let your guard down.
Congrats on making the HOF!!! Keep it continuing.
Congrats AA!
Congrats on the first milestone. I hope to see that dancing baby wearing the clown mask more.
'BanDog'
Great work, keep it up brother!!
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Congrats to 100 days! Can't wait to see 100 more 'Popcorn'
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Today is a bullseye for you! Congrats on reaching HOF! True pleasure being on this ride with you. Here's to the next Hundy...ODAAT of course!
Way to quit man. 100 days is very impressive. Enjoy your day, but never let your guard down.
Congrats on making the HOF!!! Keep it continuing.
Congrats AA!
Congrats on the first milestone. I hope to see that dancing baby wearing the clown mask more.
'BanDog'
Great work, keep it up brother!!
Well done! Congrats on HOF.
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Today is a bullseye for you! Congrats on reaching HOF! True pleasure being on this ride with you. Here's to the next Hundy...ODAAT of course!
Way to quit man. 100 days is very impressive. Enjoy your day, but never let your guard down.
Congrats on making the HOF!!! Keep it continuing.
Congrats AA!
Congrats on the first milestone. I hope to see that dancing baby wearing the clown mask more.
'BanDog'
Great work, keep it up brother!!
Well done! Congrats on HOF.
nice just a water break there is no finish line keep posting roll edd Enjoy your day
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Today is a bullseye for you! Congrats on reaching HOF! True pleasure being on this ride with you. Here's to the next Hundy...ODAAT of course!
Way to quit man. 100 days is very impressive. Enjoy your day, but never let your guard down.
Congrats on making the HOF!!! Keep it continuing.
Congrats AA!
Congrats on the first milestone. I hope to see that dancing baby wearing the clown mask more.
'BanDog'
Great work, keep it up brother!!
Well done! Congrats on HOF.
nice just a water break there is no finish line keep posting roll edd Enjoy your day
Congratulations!
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Today is a bullseye for you! Congrats on reaching HOF! True pleasure being on this ride with you. Here's to the next Hundy...ODAAT of course!
Way to quit man. 100 days is very impressive. Enjoy your day, but never let your guard down.
Congrats on making the HOF!!! Keep it continuing.
Congrats AA!
Congrats on the first milestone. I hope to see that dancing baby wearing the clown mask more.
'BanDog'
Great work, keep it up brother!!
Well done! Congrats on HOF.
nice just a water break there is no finish line keep posting roll edd Enjoy your day
Congratulations!
Congratitties 'boob' 'boob'
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Today is a bullseye for you! Congrats on reaching HOF! True pleasure being on this ride with you. Here's to the next Hundy...ODAAT of course!
Way to quit man. 100 days is very impressive. Enjoy your day, but never let your guard down.
Congrats on making the HOF!!! Keep it continuing.
Congrats AA!
Congrats on the first milestone. I hope to see that dancing baby wearing the clown mask more.
'BanDog'
Great work, keep it up brother!!
Well done! Congrats on HOF.
nice just a water break there is no finish line keep posting roll edd Enjoy your day
Congratulations!
Congratitties 'boob' 'boob'
congrats on making the HOF and 'flush' the bitch everyday!
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I don't know where else to put this so I'll put it here in hopes it will be seen by someone in charge. With the move to Zeta, my layout has changed and all of the latest posts are at the end instead of the beginning. It is playing havoc with posting roll and with reading topics. Is there a way for me to change this back to the way it was before?
AA
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I don't know where else to put this so I'll put it here in hopes it will be seen by someone in charge. With the move to Zeta, my layout has changed and all of the latest posts are at the end instead of the beginning. It is playing havoc with posting roll and with reading topics. Is there a way for me to change this back to the way it was before?
AA
AA, I think that's the way it is meant to be. After a few days, we'll all get used to it.
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I don't know where else to put this so I'll put it here in hopes it will be seen by someone in charge. With the move to Zeta, my layout has changed and all of the latest posts are at the end instead of the beginning. It is playing havoc with posting roll and with reading topics. Is there a way for me to change this back to the way it was before?
AA
AA, I think that's the way it is meant to be. After a few days, we'll all get used to it.
it wouldn't have been my vote but i'm sure we'll all be used to it and KTC will be better than ever!
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I don't know where else to put this so I'll put it here in hopes it will be seen by someone in charge. With the move to Zeta, my layout has changed and all of the latest posts are at the end instead of the beginning. It is playing havoc with posting roll and with reading topics. Is there a way for me to change this back to the way it was before?
AA
Yes, same feeling here. The roll is buggered up. I posted at the bottom, but ended up in a middle page somewhere, so then went in and "fixed" it. Bumped Ginet in the process and had to re-fix a 2nd time! This will take some getting used to.
ZC
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I don't know where else to put this so I'll put it here in hopes it will be seen by someone in charge. With the move to Zeta, my layout has changed and all of the latest posts are at the end instead of the beginning. It is playing havoc with posting roll and with reading topics. Is there a way for me to change this back to the way it was before?
AA
Yes, same feeling here. The roll is buggered up. I posted at the bottom, but ended up in a middle page somewhere, so then went in and "fixed" it. Bumped Ginet in the process and had to re-fix a 2nd time! This will take some getting used to.
ZC
It's like we're all newbs again. Feel bad for the guys who are in the fog AND trying to figure out the new site.
Look for a brief spike in violent crimes.
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I don't know where else to put this so I'll put it here in hopes it will be seen by someone in charge. With the move to Zeta, my layout has changed and all of the latest posts are at the end instead of the beginning. It is playing havoc with posting roll and with reading topics. Is there a way for me to change this back to the way it was before?
AA
Yes, same feeling here. The roll is buggered up. I posted at the bottom, but ended up in a middle page somewhere, so then went in and "fixed" it. Bumped Ginet in the process and had to re-fix a 2nd time! This will take some getting used to.
ZC
It's like we're all newbs again. Feel bad for the guys who are in the fog AND trying to figure out the new site.
Look for a brief spike in violent crimes.
Once everyone is comfortable with the latest post being at the bottom of the last page the features can be utilized as an advantage to lessen bumping. The key is everyone must recondition themselves to ensure they are actually at the latest post before hitting the quote button. You'll notice at the bottom there is an indicator of who is VIEWING and who is POSTING. The who is POSTING part will let you know who you are going to bump. The key is getting people to go to the latest or most recent post. There is a setting in PREFERENCES up top that will take you automatically to the last UNREAD post in a thread. The key thing to remember when going to that post is that there are likely subsequent unread posts that came of the last post that you had yet to read. This is where scrolling down becomes important. Then it's important to recognize that newer posts might be on a new page, so you have to click over to the new page(s).
Bottom line, before posting, find the most recent post before you hit the QUOTE button.
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I don't know where else to put this so I'll put it here in hopes it will be seen by someone in charge. With the move to Zeta, my layout has changed and all of the latest posts are at the end instead of the beginning. It is playing havoc with posting roll and with reading topics. Is there a way for me to change this back to the way it was before?
AA
Yes, same feeling here. The roll is buggered up. I posted at the bottom, but ended up in a middle page somewhere, so then went in and "fixed" it. Bumped Ginet in the process and had to re-fix a 2nd time! This will take some getting used to.
ZC
It's like we're all newbs again. Feel bad for the guys who are in the fog AND trying to figure out the new site.
Look for a brief spike in violent crimes.
Once everyone is comfortable with the latest post being at the bottom of the last page the features can be utilized as an advantage to lessen bumping. The key is everyone must recondition themselves to ensure they are actually at the latest post before hitting the quote button. You'll notice at the bottom there is an indicator of who is VIEWING and who is POSTING. The who is POSTING part will let you know who you are going to bump. The key is getting people to go to the latest or most recent post. There is a setting in PREFERENCES up top that will take you automatically to the last UNREAD post in a thread. The key thing to remember when going to that post is that there are likely subsequent unread posts that came of the last post that you had yet to read. This is where scrolling down becomes important. Then it's important to recognize that newer posts might be on a new page, so you have to click over to the new page(s).
Bottom line, before posting, find the most recent post before you hit the QUOTE button.
Funny, the newbies in July seem to be handling it quite well.... 'Moe'
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I don't know where else to put this so I'll put it here in hopes it will be seen by someone in charge. With the move to Zeta, my layout has changed and all of the latest posts are at the end instead of the beginning. It is playing havoc with posting roll and with reading topics. Is there a way for me to change this back to the way it was before?
AA
Yes, same feeling here. The roll is buggered up. I posted at the bottom, but ended up in a middle page somewhere, so then went in and "fixed" it. Bumped Ginet in the process and had to re-fix a 2nd time! This will take some getting used to.
ZC
It's like we're all newbs again. Feel bad for the guys who are in the fog AND trying to figure out the new site.
Look for a brief spike in violent crimes.
Once everyone is comfortable with the latest post being at the bottom of the last page the features can be utilized as an advantage to lessen bumping. The key is everyone must recondition themselves to ensure they are actually at the latest post before hitting the quote button. You'll notice at the bottom there is an indicator of who is VIEWING and who is POSTING. The who is POSTING part will let you know who you are going to bump. The key is getting people to go to the latest or most recent post. There is a setting in PREFERENCES up top that will take you automatically to the last UNREAD post in a thread. The key thing to remember when going to that post is that there are likely subsequent unread posts that came of the last post that you had yet to read. This is where scrolling down becomes important. Then it's important to recognize that newer posts might be on a new page, so you have to click over to the new page(s).
Bottom line, before posting, find the most recent post before you hit the QUOTE button.
Funny, the newbies in July seem to be handling it quite well.... 'Moe'
I've been a newbie once, I didn't like it then and I don't like it now!!
'cry'
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Day 106 - I've said many times on here and to people away from here that I have been very surprised that a website has influenced my quit and my life so thoroughly and it is very true. I'm also surprised that this recent change has impacted me in such a negative way. I went to post roll this morning and the last person to post cut off about six quitters who came on here to say they were quit. I could have spent the time trying to fix it but just said "Fuck it!" because as soon as I fix it, someone else will fuck it up again.
This is ridiculous, either post some instructions so everyone see's it or go to another board that mimics what worked so well a week ago.
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Day 106 - I've said many times on here and to people away from here that I have been very surprised that a website has influenced my quit and my life so thoroughly and it is very true. I'm also surprised that this recent change has impacted me in such a negative way. I went to post roll this morning and the last person to post cut off about six quitters who came on here to say they were quit. I could have spent the time trying to fix it but just said "Fuck it!" because as soon as I fix it, someone else will fuck it up again.
This is ridiculous, either post some instructions so everyone see's it or go to another board that mimics what worked so well a week ago.
Hey they're working on stuff. In the meantime don't let it get it down. Keep interacting and keep posting. We need you here. Just make sure we all go to the newest post before we quote something.
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Day 106 - I've said many times on here and to people away from here that I have been very surprised that a website has influenced my quit and my life so thoroughly and it is very true. I'm also surprised that this recent change has impacted me in such a negative way. I went to post roll this morning and the last person to post cut off about six quitters who came on here to say they were quit. I could have spent the time trying to fix it but just said "Fuck it!" because as soon as I fix it, someone else will fuck it up again.
This is ridiculous, either post some instructions so everyone see's it or go to another board that mimics what worked so well a week ago.
I will 100% agree with you...but i will say this...post roll...make your promise. As of now thats all you can do. If you get bumped or whatever, you still made your promise. It has been a pain and i've heard this from many people but you know in your heart if you make your promise.
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Hey I've enjoyed watching your quit from the first time that clown stomped in theSe halls. You make my quit stronger. If you want me to post for you till they get it more manageable feel free to pm me for my number, then you can text and I will post for you. Point is, if it's getting you down feel free to get help- I'm here as I'm sure many others are too. I had real bad "fuckits" around my HOF day give or take two weeks, and it would have sucked to negotiate a system change like this. But man you've built a web here because you've been accountable- and the benefit of that is support. So use it if you need it. The hassle will pass eventually and I can f-in carry you if need be until you can handle it.
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Day 121 - Posting for posterity - this quit is still pretty tough. Not white knuckle craves but starting to think about dipping again. Simple thoughts, easy, $5 and a bad decision and I'm right back into a 30 year habit. So proud to have made the HOF and suddenly I'm three weeks past it and feeling like "what's next?" The answer of what's next is "just today", keep posting roll and staying quit. I've felt enough of the roller coaster to know that this too shall pass and become something else.
It's funny because the drama on the board doesn't even bother me any more. Go watch the show on WCWBignasty, it's actually pretty sad now instead of the pain it caused me before. After I realized my complaints about the new board were just potential excuses to cave, I went ahead and learned how it works and moved on.
Quit today!
AA
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Day 121 - Posting for posterity - this quit is still pretty tough. Not white knuckle craves but starting to think about dipping again. Simple thoughts, easy, $5 and a bad decision and I'm right back into a 30 year habit. So proud to have made the HOF and suddenly I'm three weeks past it and feeling like "what's next?" The answer of what's next is "just today", keep posting roll and staying quit. I've felt enough of the roller coaster to know that this too shall pass and become something else.
It's funny because the drama on the board doesn't even bother me any more. Go watch the show on WCWBignasty, it's actually pretty sad now instead of the pain it caused me before. After I realized my complaints about the new board were just potential excuses to cave, I went ahead and learned how it works and moved on.
Quit today!
AA
There is always a bit of a lull after a big accomplishment. You are right on the money! I look forward to continue this journey with you right here!
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Day 121 - Posting for posterity - this quit is still pretty tough. Not white knuckle craves but starting to think about dipping again. Simple thoughts, easy, $5 and a bad decision and I'm right back into a 30 year habit. So proud to have made the HOF and suddenly I'm three weeks past it and feeling like "what's next?" The answer of what's next is "just today", keep posting roll and staying quit. I've felt enough of the roller coaster to know that this too shall pass and become something else.
It's funny because the drama on the board doesn't even bother me any more. Go watch the show on WCWBignasty, it's actually pretty sad now instead of the pain it caused me before. After I realized my complaints about the new board were just potential excuses to cave, I went ahead and learned how it works and moved on.
Quit today!
AA
Well done, man!
That "what next?" is a post HOF pitfall that we need to talk about more. We truly see... this fight doesn't end. There is no magic number. It's day... after... day.
I dig what you said about putting on your big boy pants, learning how to use the new site, and motoring right along. Change can suck occasionally... deal with it like a grown up and power through.
Rock on...
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Day 121 - Posting for posterity - this quit is still pretty tough. Not white knuckle craves but starting to think about dipping again. Simple thoughts, easy, $5 and a bad decision and I'm right back into a 30 year habit. So proud to have made the HOF and suddenly I'm three weeks past it and feeling like "what's next?" The answer of what's next is "just today", keep posting roll and staying quit. I've felt enough of the roller coaster to know that this too shall pass and become something else.
It's funny because the drama on the board doesn't even bother me any more. Go watch the show on WCWBignasty, it's actually pretty sad now instead of the pain it caused me before. After I realized my complaints about the new board were just potential excuses to cave, I went ahead and learned how it works and moved on.
Quit today!
AA
Well done, man!
That "what next?" is a post HOF pitfall that we need to talk about more. We truly see... this fight doesn't end. There is no magic number. It's day... after... day.
I dig what you said about putting on your big boy pants, learning how to use the new site, and motoring right along. Change can suck occasionally... deal with it like a grown up and power through.
Rock on...
121 days quit. What's that worth to you? How important is that number to you? ask the same question about dip. Measure both of those responses. Who wins?
Sure, you're an addict, so am I. But you're a quitter now, so am I. Which one do you like better. These are the types of questions I challenge myself with every day. What is my quit worth to me. KTC makes me ask, what is my quit worth to my quit brothers? We all have a stake in it. And that worth is far greater than any worth nicotine can ever give you.
Nicotine leads to desolation, isolation, and death. Quitting leads to freedom, brotherhood, and life.
Quit on my friend.
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Day 121 - Posting for posterity - this quit is still pretty tough. Not white knuckle craves but starting to think about dipping again. Simple thoughts, easy, $5 and a bad decision and I'm right back into a 30 year habit. So proud to have made the HOF and suddenly I'm three weeks past it and feeling like "what's next?" The answer of what's next is "just today", keep posting roll and staying quit. I've felt enough of the roller coaster to know that this too shall pass and become something else.
It's funny because the drama on the board doesn't even bother me any more. Go watch the show on WCWBignasty, it's actually pretty sad now instead of the pain it caused me before. After I realized my complaints about the new board were just potential excuses to cave, I went ahead and learned how it works and moved on.
Quit today!
AA
Well done, man!
That "what next?" is a post HOF pitfall that we need to talk about more. We truly see... this fight doesn't end. There is no magic number. It's day... after... day.
I dig what you said about putting on your big boy pants, learning how to use the new site, and motoring right along. Change can suck occasionally... deal with it like a grown up and power through.
Rock on...
121 days quit. What's that worth to you? How important is that number to you? ask the same question about dip. Measure both of those responses. Who wins?
Sure, you're an addict, so am I. But you're a quitter now, so am I. Which one do you like better. These are the types of questions I challenge myself with every day. What is my quit worth to me. KTC makes me ask, what is my quit worth to my quit brothers? We all have a stake in it. And that worth is far greater than any worth nicotine can ever give you.
Nicotine leads to desolation, isolation, and death. Quitting leads to freedom, brotherhood, and life.
Quit on my friend.
Eloquent as always Steak!
"Nicotine leads to desolation, isolation, and death. Quitting leads to freedom, brotherhood, and life."
Reminded me of Yoda
"Fear is the path to the darkside, fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering!"
And to answer your question, I do like being a quitter better and I too gain from this brotherhood/sisterhood.
On a side note, Pinched wrote a good post about brotherhood today too, its always cool how the same subjects roll through KTC at the same time. Lends continuity!
Thanks also to Sam and AJ for the support!
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Day 121 - Posting for posterity - this quit is still pretty tough. Not white knuckle craves but starting to think about dipping again. Simple thoughts, easy, $5 and a bad decision and I'm right back into a 30 year habit. So proud to have made the HOF and suddenly I'm three weeks past it and feeling like "what's next?" The answer of what's next is "just today", keep posting roll and staying quit. I've felt enough of the roller coaster to know that this too shall pass and become something else.
It's funny because the drama on the board doesn't even bother me any more. Go watch the show on WCWBignasty, it's actually pretty sad now instead of the pain it caused me before. After I realized my complaints about the new board were just potential excuses to cave, I went ahead and learned how it works and moved on.
Quit today!
AA
Well done, man!
That "what next?" is a post HOF pitfall that we need to talk about more. We truly see... this fight doesn't end. There is no magic number. It's day... after... day.
I dig what you said about putting on your big boy pants, learning how to use the new site, and motoring right along. Change can suck occasionally... deal with it like a grown up and power through.
Rock on...
121 days quit. What's that worth to you? How important is that number to you? ask the same question about dip. Measure both of those responses. Who wins?
Sure, you're an addict, so am I. But you're a quitter now, so am I. Which one do you like better. These are the types of questions I challenge myself with every day. What is my quit worth to me. KTC makes me ask, what is my quit worth to my quit brothers? We all have a stake in it. And that worth is far greater than any worth nicotine can ever give you.
Nicotine leads to desolation, isolation, and death. Quitting leads to freedom, brotherhood, and life.
Quit on my friend.
Eloquent as always Steak!
"Nicotine leads to desolation, isolation, and death. Quitting leads to freedom, brotherhood, and life."
Reminded me of Yoda
"Fear is the path to the darkside, fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering!"
And to answer your question, I do like being a quitter better and I too gain from this brotherhood/sisterhood.
On a side note, Pinched wrote a good post about brotherhood today too, its always cool how the same subjects roll through KTC at the same time. Lends continuity!
Thanks also to Sam and AJ for the support!
AA
Even though I am just a tiny bit ahead of you on this path you need to know that ever since you joined here you have quit the right way. You got with the program. posted your promise everyday, and lent your support to a lot of quitters (me included) I felt the post HOF blahs too. Now instead of focusing on counting I am trying to savor the beauty of being free each day. There is such a comfort knowing that the most solid quitters. The ones we can really lean on. Have chosen to stay active here. You are one of them you fucking clown!
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At day 133 I posted my last roll. At day 135 I caved. I planned it and went ahead without using any of my tools that were available. I just had to try it and my intent was to quit again right after that. Long story short, it turned into a fullblown fuck fest with the nic bitch and I am not ready to get out of bed with her yet.
Sorry I let you guys down but wanted to confirm what many of you had surmised. When I'm ready to really quit I know where you are and will be back.
AA
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really...thats it?
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At day 133 I posted my last roll. At day 135 I caved. I planned it and went ahead without using any of my tools that were available. I just had to try it and my intent was to quit again right after that. Long story short, it turned into a fullblown fuck fest with the nic bitch and I am not ready to get out of bed with her yet.
Sorry I let you guys down but wanted to confirm what many of you had surmised. When I'm ready to really quit I know where you are and will be back.
AA
WTF.... Are you serious......you know what you need to do and you need to do it now. This is not funny.
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At day 133 I posted my last roll. At day 135 I caved. I planned it and went ahead without using any of my tools that were available. I just had to try it and my intent was to quit again right after that. Long story short, it turned into a fullblown fuck fest with the nic bitch and I am not ready to get out of bed with her yet.
Sorry I let you guys down but wanted to confirm what many of you had surmised. When I'm ready to really quit I know where you are and will be back.
AA
Very disappointing. Very Stupid
And some deep down thought for yourself is needed.
Reminds me of knowing that a knife will cut you on your hand, your arms but then after being so careful wondering and trying to see if it will cut you on your leg.
Better learn something more, and learn it quick. Look back over your 133 days and I bet you will find that knowledge.
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So... You're just going to lay down and give up?
Weak.
Be better than that.
Be better to yourself than that.
Damn, man.
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Go deep into the 3 questions. Please! You can recover, but you gotta want it. Bad. You've taught the nic bitch that you can be had. Now do it for real. Take care of yourself, you deserve it and you almost had it-- now go get it dammit!
Your honesty is the first step--- now get brutally honest with yourself. We've all been cavers all our lives until we work it here. AND WORKING IT HERE MEANS POSTING EVERY DAY, NOT THINKING YOU REACH A CERTAIN POINT AND YOU NO LONGER HAVE TO POST--- DON'T FOLLOW THAT EXAMPLE!!
I want that clown stomping around in here again, dammit.
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So... You're just going to lay down and give up?
Weak.
Be better than that.
Be better to yourself than that.
Damn, man.
let me get this straight you said fuck it and came back to announce you said fuck it...and you will come back later when you are done with fucking it...is that right? Don't know why you think so little of yourself...you knew what to do you had the tools but just decided hell with it.
well I spose see ya when you are done killing yourself...
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this is why there is a perception of softness on this site...damn a year ago...this guy would have been raked over the coals by about 20 vets...now just a handful? apo, get your shit together...you know better...you've been around long enough..i don't care for how you handled this...are you really that soft?
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At day 133 I posted my last roll. At day 135 I caved. I planned it and went ahead without using any of my tools that were available. I just had to try it and my intent was to quit again right after that. Long story short, it turned into a fullblown fuck fest with the nic bitch and I am not ready to get out of bed with her yet.
Sorry I let you guys down but wanted to confirm what many of you had surmised. When I'm ready to really quit I know where you are and will be back.
AA
So, what's your plan going forward? Are you going to continue killing yourself or are you gonna answer the three questions and post day 1?
This is just terrible to hear about. Do you want to be quit? What's the deal?
Did you get the insurance policy premium you were hoping to get?
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At day 133 I posted my last roll. At day 135 I caved. I planned it and went ahead without using any of my tools that were available. I just had to try it and my intent was to quit again right after that. Long story short, it turned into a fullblown fuck fest with the nic bitch and I am not ready to get out of bed with her yet.
Sorry I let you guys down but wanted to confirm what many of you had surmised. When I'm ready to really quit I know where you are and will be back.
AA
Get the fuck out of here and stay the fuck out.
Oh you'll be back when you're ready? That statement alone tells everyone here that you belong on lite.
Enjoy your cans dickhead.
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At day 133 I posted my last roll. At day 135 I caved. I planned it and went ahead without using any of my tools that were available. I just had to try it and my intent was to quit again right after that. Long story short, it turned into a fullblown fuck fest with the nic bitch and I am not ready to get out of bed with her yet.
Sorry I let you guys down but wanted to confirm what many of you had surmised. When I'm ready to really quit I know where you are and will be back.
AA
Get the fuck out of here and stay the fuck out.
Oh you'll be back when you're ready? That statement alone tells everyone here that you belong on lite.
Enjoy your cans dickhead.
That's more to the point!
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Punch in the gut and not what I expected from you. I honestly felt you had grown frustrated with some of the "drama" for lack of a better word and left. I was concerned when you did not respond to my last PM, but this really caught me off guard and was not what I expected when I saw your intro pop back up. I was psyched for a moment....until I read this shit. You got to wake back up here...this is serious shit. What the fuck are you waiting for? When I stopped in the '90's for five years and went back it cost me 12 more years....I made that mistake once....never again for me. Man-up and post day one now. Don't let this go any longer. SHIT!
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At day 133 I posted my last roll. At day 135 I caved. I planned it and went ahead without using any of my tools that were available. I just had to try it and my intent was to quit again right after that. Long story short, it turned into a fullblown fuck fest with the nic bitch and I am not ready to get out of bed with her yet.
Sorry I let you guys down but wanted to confirm what many of you had surmised. When I'm ready to really quit I know where you are and will be back.
AA
Get the fuck out of here and stay the fuck out.
Oh you'll be back when you're ready? That statement alone tells everyone here that you belong on lite.
Enjoy your cans dickhead.
That's more to the point!
This fucking ruined my day. IÂ’ve been on your team since day 5. And along with all the resolute bastards, I posted with yÂ’all and supported you specifically. This pisses me off, probably more than every other cave IÂ’ve ever read. Why? Because it was calculated. You planned this. What??!! You fucking planned to do this. What the fuck is that? ItÂ’s fucking bullshit and it calls into question every bit of your integrity. To top it offÂ…youÂ’re fucking enjoying it. YouÂ’ll come here when youÂ’re ready to quit. Have you not learned anything?
The worst nicotine stoppage IÂ’ve seen thus far.
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At day 133 I posted my last roll. At day 135 I caved. I planned it and went ahead without using any of my tools that were available. I just had to try it and my intent was to quit again right after that. Long story short, it turned into a fullblown fuck fest with the nic bitch and I am not ready to get out of bed with her yet.
Sorry I let you guys down but wanted to confirm what many of you had surmised. When I'm ready to really quit I know where you are and will be back.
AA
Get the fuck out of here and stay the fuck out.
Oh you'll be back when you're ready? That statement alone tells everyone here that you belong on lite.
Enjoy your cans dickhead.
Now this is the KTC I remember...bad to the bone and harsh to all that had it coming!
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At day 133 I posted my last roll. At day 135 I caved. I planned it and went ahead without using any of my tools that were available. I just had to try it and my intent was to quit again right after that. Long story short, it turned into a fullblown fuck fest with the nic bitch and I am not ready to get out of bed with her yet.
Sorry I let you guys down but wanted to confirm what many of you had surmised. When I'm ready to really quit I know where you are and will be back.
AA
Get the fuck out of here and stay the fuck out.
Oh you'll be back when you're ready? That statement alone tells everyone here that you belong on lite.
Enjoy your cans dickhead.
Now this is the KTC I remember...bad to the bone and harsh to all that had it coming!
I tried to reach out to you when the software change happened and it turns out you were using your frustration with the new layout as an excuse. Such Bullshit. How can you "plan" and cave after 133 days? I just don't get it. You knew where it would lead and fucking did it anyway. Weak.
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At day 133 I posted my last roll. At day 135 I caved. I planned it and went ahead without using any of my tools that were available. I just had to try it and my intent was to quit again right after that. Long story short, it turned into a fullblown fuck fest with the nic bitch and I am not ready to get out of bed with her yet.
Sorry I let you guys down but wanted to confirm what many of you had surmised. When I'm ready to really quit I know where you are and will be back.
AA
Get the fuck out of here and stay the fuck out.
Oh you'll be back when you're ready? That statement alone tells everyone here that you belong on lite.
Enjoy your cans dickhead.
Now this is the KTC I remember...bad to the bone and harsh to all that had it coming!
I tried to reach out to you when the software change happened and it turns out you were using your frustration with the new layout as an excuse. Such Bullshit. How can you "plan" and cave after 133 days? I just don't get it. You knew where it would lead and fucking did it anyway. Weak.
U never know which dip might be the one that turns into cancer. When u are thru fucking the nic bitch come back and post a day 1 if you have the balls to do so!!!!
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At day 133 I posted my last roll. At day 135 I caved. I planned it and went ahead without using any of my tools that were available. I just had to try it and my intent was to quit again right after that. Long story short, it turned into a fullblown fuck fest with the nic bitch and I am not ready to get out of bed with her yet.
Sorry I let you guys down but wanted to confirm what many of you had surmised. When I'm ready to really quit I know where you are and will be back.
AA
Get the fuck out of here and stay the fuck out.
Oh you'll be back when you're ready? That statement alone tells everyone here that you belong on lite.
Enjoy your cans dickhead.
Now this is the KTC I remember...bad to the bone and harsh to all that had it coming!
I tried to reach out to you when the software change happened and it turns out you were using your frustration with the new layout as an excuse. Such Bullshit. How can you "plan" and cave after 133 days? I just don't get it. You knew where it would lead and fucking did it anyway. Weak.
aw come on now fellas. Don't be so hard on the fellow. He obviously knows what he's doing! He doesn't care that he's crapped in your house, on your shoes and each dip he takes is another turd in your face.
after 133 days and the commitment he's showing the can, makes every single one of those days suspect.
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At day 133 I posted my last roll. At day 135 I caved. I planned it and went ahead without using any of my tools that were available. I just had to try it and my intent was to quit again right after that. Long story short, it turned into a fullblown fuck fest with the nic bitch and I am not ready to get out of bed with her yet.
Sorry I let you guys down but wanted to confirm what many of you had surmised. When I'm ready to really quit I know where you are and will be back.
AA
Get the fuck out of here and stay the fuck out.
Oh you'll be back when you're ready? That statement alone tells everyone here that you belong on lite.
Enjoy your cans dickhead.
Now this is the KTC I remember...bad to the bone and harsh to all that had it coming!
I tried to reach out to you when the software change happened and it turns out you were using your frustration with the new layout as an excuse. Such Bullshit. How can you "plan" and cave after 133 days? I just don't get it. You knew where it would lead and fucking did it anyway. Weak.
I had, what I thought was the pleasure, of writing Apogeeammo's HOF Intro to the HOF Train! I have made a few changes..... Enjoy
Anyways, we have a lot of ground to cover today and we are going to make a quick shot to Marysville, KS where this quitter caver recently moved into the “Real God’s Country” sorry Ginet, but this is Starr’s home and native land. Apogeeammo shit all over it! Welcome aboard Get the fuck off the HOF Train! this quitter has been married for 25 years to his high school sweetheart Renee, who couldn't be more thrilled he has quit disappointed he gave up his good word to sleep around with the nic bitch. She has probably will never seen him without dip and neither have his 2 kids since he started dipping at the age of 16!
Apogeeammo enjoys the music of is a Tool and is going to bring this on the train to blow everyone’s mind. He is my hero because I don’t know how much more music of ‘The Maestro’ I can take. In event of an accident just throw Apogeeammo out the window, I would have been right behind you if you didn’t bring some music! will be happy to toss him out.
Golfpro would be proud pissed to hear the craziest thing this quitter has done is you climbed the UGA coliseum and sneak into Sanford Stadium, home of the Bulldogs. I think he did this just to bask in the glory that is Georgia footballÂ….. or he was just drunk. Either way that is just good fun! This quitter bitch enjoys wearing creepy as all fuck clown masks and walking around outside in diapersÂ… With a fat dip in Well you and Francis Neon Panther have something in common there! There are going to be diapers stocked just for you on this train. I didnÂ’t think I would ever say that.
Signing up for 200 days? Abso-fucking-lutely! Then he is going to throw everything he has ever learned out the window at day 135 and say fuck you to everyone here!!!! This quitter is on the train for the long haul! ItÂ’s easy to stay quit when all you have to do is post roll and stay active on KTC, I mean after you watch some jigglies from Pinched, Emulator, and especially JazzyZag01 (We gotta find that girl and get her on this train). This is as true today as when I said it on your HOF date Inspiration comes from his fellow He decided to spit in the faces of every Resolute Bastards, and Apogeeammo wants to Zilla, Peters6278, Derk40, Canvasback, Sam83, and Applejack who have all stayed in close contact and supported him. Now get your creepy clown mask on and board this train already! get the fuck out!
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At day 133 I posted my last roll. At day 135 I caved. I planned it and went ahead without using any of my tools that were available. I just had to try it and my intent was to quit again right after that. Long story short, it turned into a fullblown fuck fest with the nic bitch and I am not ready to get out of bed with her yet.
Sorry I let you guys down but wanted to confirm what many of you had surmised. When I'm ready to really quit I know where you are and will be back.
AA
Get the fuck out of here and stay the fuck out.
Oh you'll be back when you're ready? That statement alone tells everyone here that you belong on lite.
Enjoy your cans dickhead.
Now this is the KTC I remember...bad to the bone and harsh to all that had it coming!
I tried to reach out to you when the software change happened and it turns out you were using your frustration with the new layout as an excuse. Such Bullshit. How can you "plan" and cave after 133 days? I just don't get it. You knew where it would lead and fucking did it anyway. Weak.
I had, what I thought was the pleasure, of writing Apogeeammo's HOF Intro to the HOF Train! I have made a few changes..... Enjoy
Anyways, we have a lot of ground to cover today and we are going to make a quick shot to Marysville, KS where this quitter caver recently moved into the “Real God’s Country” sorry Ginet, but this is Starr’s home and native land. Apogeeammo shit all over it! Welcome aboard Get the fuck off the HOF Train! this quitter has been married for 25 years to his high school sweetheart Renee, who couldn't be more thrilled he has quit disappointed he gave up his good word to sleep around with the nic bitch. She has probably will never seen him without dip and neither have his 2 kids since he started dipping at the age of 16!
Apogeeammo enjoys the music of is a Tool and is going to bring this on the train to blow everyone’s mind. He is my hero because I don’t know how much more music of ‘The Maestro’ I can take. In event of an accident just throw Apogeeammo out the window, I would have been right behind you if you didn’t bring some music! will be happy to toss him out.
Golfpro would be proud pissed to hear the craziest thing this quitter has done is you climbed the UGA coliseum and sneak into Sanford Stadium, home of the Bulldogs. I think he did this just to bask in the glory that is Georgia footballÂ….. or he was just drunk. Either way that is just good fun! This quitter bitch enjoys wearing creepy as all fuck clown masks and walking around outside in diapersÂ… With a fat dip in Well you and Francis Neon Panther have something in common there! There are going to be diapers stocked just for you on this train. I didnÂ’t think I would ever say that.
Signing up for 200 days? Abso-fucking-lutely! Then he is going to throw everything he has ever learned out the window at day 135 and say fuck you to everyone here!!!! This quitter is on the train for the long haul! ItÂ’s easy to stay quit when all you have to do is post roll and stay active on KTC, I mean after you watch some jigglies from Pinched, Emulator, and especially JazzyZag01 (We gotta find that girl and get her on this train). This is as true today as when I said it on your HOF date Inspiration comes from his fellow He decided to spit in the faces of every Resolute Bastards, and Apogeeammo wants to Zilla, Peters6278, Derk40, Canvasback, Sam83, and Applejack who have all stayed in close contact and supported him. Now get your creepy clown mask on and board this train already! get the fuck out!
Amen.
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At day 133 I posted my last roll. At day 135 I caved. I planned it and went ahead without using any of my tools that were available. I just had to try it and my intent was to quit again right after that. Long story short, it turned into a fullblown fuck fest with the nic bitch and I am not ready to get out of bed with her yet.
Sorry I let you guys down but wanted to confirm what many of you had surmised. When I'm ready to really quit I know where you are and will be back.
AA
Get the fuck out of here and stay the fuck out.
Oh you'll be back when you're ready? That statement alone tells everyone here that you belong on lite.
Enjoy your cans dickhead.
Now this is the KTC I remember...bad to the bone and harsh to all that had it coming!
I tried to reach out to you when the software change happened and it turns out you were using your frustration with the new layout as an excuse. Such Bullshit. How can you "plan" and cave after 133 days? I just don't get it. You knew where it would lead and fucking did it anyway. Weak.
I had, what I thought was the pleasure, of writing Apogeeammo's HOF Intro to the HOF Train! I have made a few changes..... Enjoy
Anyways, we have a lot of ground to cover today and we are going to make a quick shot to Marysville, KS where this quitter caver recently moved into the “Real God’s Country” sorry Ginet, but this is Starr’s home and native land. Apogeeammo shit all over it! Welcome aboard Get the fuck off the HOF Train! this quitter has been married for 25 years to his high school sweetheart Renee, who couldn't be more thrilled he has quit disappointed he gave up his good word to sleep around with the nic bitch. She has probably will never seen him without dip and neither have his 2 kids since he started dipping at the age of 16!
Apogeeammo enjoys the music of is a Tool and is going to bring this on the train to blow everyone’s mind. He is my hero because I don’t know how much more music of ‘The Maestro’ I can take. In event of an accident just throw Apogeeammo out the window, I would have been right behind you if you didn’t bring some music! will be happy to toss him out.
Golfpro would be proud pissed to hear the craziest thing this quitter has done is you climbed the UGA coliseum and sneak into Sanford Stadium, home of the Bulldogs. I think he did this just to bask in the glory that is Georgia footballÂ….. or he was just drunk. Either way that is just good fun! This quitter bitch enjoys wearing creepy as all fuck clown masks and walking around outside in diapersÂ… With a fat dip in Well you and Francis Neon Panther have something in common there! There are going to be diapers stocked just for you on this train. I didnÂ’t think I would ever say that.
Signing up for 200 days? Abso-fucking-lutely! Then he is going to throw everything he has ever learned out the window at day 135 and say fuck you to everyone here!!!! This quitter is on the train for the long haul! ItÂ’s easy to stay quit when all you have to do is post roll and stay active on KTC, I mean after you watch some jigglies from Pinched, Emulator, and especially JazzyZag01 (We gotta find that girl and get her on this train). This is as true today as when I said it on your HOF date Inspiration comes from his fellow He decided to spit in the faces of every Resolute Bastards, and Apogeeammo wants to Zilla, Peters6278, Derk40, Canvasback, Sam83, and Applejack who have all stayed in close contact and supported him. Now get your creepy clown mask on and board this train already! get the fuck out!
Amen.
Wow talk about giving everyone the giant middle finger. You planned it and knowingly didn't use the tools..
It sucked when neon panther caved. Bothered me for days. I remember when you joined this brotherhood. I sent you a message. I rooted for you. I read your HOF speech. I followed your journey.
You can kiss my ass.
I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire. Not because you caved but because of the way you caved and the shitty way you just treated all of us.
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At day 133 I posted my last roll. At day 135 I caved. I planned it and went ahead without using any of my tools that were available. I just had to try it and my intent was to quit again right after that. Long story short, it turned into a fullblown fuck fest with the nic bitch and I am not ready to get out of bed with her yet.
Sorry I let you guys down but wanted to confirm what many of you had surmised. When I'm ready to really quit I know where you are and will be back.
AA
Get the fuck out of here and stay the fuck out.
Oh you'll be back when you're ready? That statement alone tells everyone here that you belong on lite.
Enjoy your cans dickhead.
Now this is the KTC I remember...bad to the bone and harsh to all that had it coming!
I tried to reach out to you when the software change happened and it turns out you were using your frustration with the new layout as an excuse. Such Bullshit. How can you "plan" and cave after 133 days? I just don't get it. You knew where it would lead and fucking did it anyway. Weak.
I had, what I thought was the pleasure, of writing Apogeeammo's HOF Intro to the HOF Train! I have made a few changes..... Enjoy
Anyways, we have a lot of ground to cover today and we are going to make a quick shot to Marysville, KS where this quitter caver recently moved into the “Real God’s Country” sorry Ginet, but this is Starr’s home and native land. Apogeeammo shit all over it! Welcome aboard Get the fuck off the HOF Train! this quitter has been married for 25 years to his high school sweetheart Renee, who couldn't be more thrilled he has quit disappointed he gave up his good word to sleep around with the nic bitch. She has probably will never seen him without dip and neither have his 2 kids since he started dipping at the age of 16!
Apogeeammo enjoys the music of is a Tool and is going to bring this on the train to blow everyone’s mind. He is my hero because I don’t know how much more music of ‘The Maestro’ I can take. In event of an accident just throw Apogeeammo out the window, I would have been right behind you if you didn’t bring some music! will be happy to toss him out.
Golfpro would be proud pissed to hear the craziest thing this quitter has done is you climbed the UGA coliseum and sneak into Sanford Stadium, home of the Bulldogs. I think he did this just to bask in the glory that is Georgia footballÂ….. or he was just drunk. Either way that is just good fun! This quitter bitch enjoys wearing creepy as all fuck clown masks and walking around outside in diapersÂ… With a fat dip in Well you and Francis Neon Panther have something in common there! There are going to be diapers stocked just for you on this train. I didnÂ’t think I would ever say that.
Signing up for 200 days? Abso-fucking-lutely! Then he is going to throw everything he has ever learned out the window at day 135 and say fuck you to everyone here!!!! This quitter is on the train for the long haul! ItÂ’s easy to stay quit when all you have to do is post roll and stay active on KTC, I mean after you watch some jigglies from Pinched, Emulator, and especially JazzyZag01 (We gotta find that girl and get her on this train). This is as true today as when I said it on your HOF date Inspiration comes from his fellow He decided to spit in the faces of every Resolute Bastards, and Apogeeammo wants to Zilla, Peters6278, Derk40, Canvasback, Sam83, and Applejack who have all stayed in close contact and supported him. Now get your creepy clown mask on and board this train already! get the fuck out!
Amen.
Wow talk about giving everyone the giant middle finger. You planned it and knowingly didn't use the tools..
It sucked when neon panther caved. Bothered me for days. I remember when you joined this brotherhood. I sent you a message. I rooted for you. I read your HOF speech. I followed your journey.
You can kiss my ass.
I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire. Not because you caved but because of the way you caved and the shitty way you just treated all of us.
Very disappointing AA. I know it's addiction speak, but dude you signed up for the 2nd floor. If you had a planned cave, why sign up for the 2nd floor?
You let us down. Get serious or get the fuck out. Your choice..........
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At day 133 I posted my last roll. At day 135 I caved. I planned it and went ahead without using any of my tools that were available. I just had to try it and my intent was to quit again right after that. Long story short, it turned into a fullblown fuck fest with the nic bitch and I am not ready to get out of bed with her yet.
Sorry I let you guys down but wanted to confirm what many of you had surmised. When I'm ready to really quit I know where you are and will be back.
AA
Get the fuck out of here and stay the fuck out.
Oh you'll be back when you're ready? That statement alone tells everyone here that you belong on lite.
Enjoy your cans dickhead.
Now this is the KTC I remember...bad to the bone and harsh to all that had it coming!
I tried to reach out to you when the software change happened and it turns out you were using your frustration with the new layout as an excuse. Such Bullshit. How can you "plan" and cave after 133 days? I just don't get it. You knew where it would lead and fucking did it anyway. Weak.
I had, what I thought was the pleasure, of writing Apogeeammo's HOF Intro to the HOF Train! I have made a few changes..... Enjoy
Anyways, we have a lot of ground to cover today and we are going to make a quick shot to Marysville, KS where this quitter caver recently moved into the “Real God’s Country” sorry Ginet, but this is Starr’s home and native land. Apogeeammo shit all over it! Welcome aboard Get the fuck off the HOF Train! this quitter has been married for 25 years to his high school sweetheart Renee, who couldn't be more thrilled he has quit disappointed he gave up his good word to sleep around with the nic bitch. She has probably will never seen him without dip and neither have his 2 kids since he started dipping at the age of 16!
Apogeeammo enjoys the music of is a Tool and is going to bring this on the train to blow everyone’s mind. He is my hero because I don’t know how much more music of ‘The Maestro’ I can take. In event of an accident just throw Apogeeammo out the window, I would have been right behind you if you didn’t bring some music! will be happy to toss him out.
Golfpro would be proud pissed to hear the craziest thing this quitter has done is you climbed the UGA coliseum and sneak into Sanford Stadium, home of the Bulldogs. I think he did this just to bask in the glory that is Georgia footballÂ….. or he was just drunk. Either way that is just good fun! This quitter bitch enjoys wearing creepy as all fuck clown masks and walking around outside in diapersÂ… With a fat dip in Well you and Francis Neon Panther have something in common there! There are going to be diapers stocked just for you on this train. I didnÂ’t think I would ever say that.
Signing up for 200 days? Abso-fucking-lutely! Then he is going to throw everything he has ever learned out the window at day 135 and say fuck you to everyone here!!!! This quitter is on the train for the long haul! ItÂ’s easy to stay quit when all you have to do is post roll and stay active on KTC, I mean after you watch some jigglies from Pinched, Emulator, and especially JazzyZag01 (We gotta find that girl and get her on this train). This is as true today as when I said it on your HOF date Inspiration comes from his fellow He decided to spit in the faces of every Resolute Bastards, and Apogeeammo wants to Zilla, Peters6278, Derk40, Canvasback, Sam83, and Applejack who have all stayed in close contact and supported him. Now get your creepy clown mask on and board this train already! get the fuck out!
Amen.
Wow talk about giving everyone the giant middle finger. You planned it and knowingly didn't use the tools..
It sucked when neon panther caved. Bothered me for days. I remember when you joined this brotherhood. I sent you a message. I rooted for you. I read your HOF speech. I followed your journey.
You can kiss my ass.
I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire. Not because you caved but because of the way you caved and the shitty way you just treated all of us.
Very disappointing AA. I know it's addiction speak, but dude you signed up for the 2nd floor. If you had a planned cave, why sign up for the 2nd floor?
You let us down. Get serious or get the fuck out. Your choice..........
A planned cave after 135 days.....What a load of shit.
Fuck this guy.
I second with the comment, "enjoy the cans dickhead"
Stay the fuck out of our KTC, we quit here.
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At day 133 I posted my last roll. At day 135 I caved. I planned it and went ahead without using any of my tools that were available. I just had to try it and my intent was to quit again right after that. Long story short, it turned into a fullblown fuck fest with the nic bitch and I am not ready to get out of bed with her yet.
Sorry I let you guys down but wanted to confirm what many of you had surmised. When I'm ready to really quit I know where you are and will be back.
AA
Get the fuck out of here and stay the fuck out.
Oh you'll be back when you're ready? That statement alone tells everyone here that you belong on lite.
Enjoy your cans dickhead.
Now this is the KTC I remember...bad to the bone and harsh to all that had it coming!
I tried to reach out to you when the software change happened and it turns out you were using your frustration with the new layout as an excuse. Such Bullshit. How can you "plan" and cave after 133 days? I just don't get it. You knew where it would lead and fucking did it anyway. Weak.
I had, what I thought was the pleasure, of writing Apogeeammo's HOF Intro to the HOF Train! I have made a few changes..... Enjoy
Anyways, we have a lot of ground to cover today and we are going to make a quick shot to Marysville, KS where this quitter caver recently moved into the “Real God’s Country” sorry Ginet, but this is Starr’s home and native land. Apogeeammo shit all over it! Welcome aboard Get the fuck off the HOF Train! this quitter has been married for 25 years to his high school sweetheart Renee, who couldn't be more thrilled he has quit disappointed he gave up his good word to sleep around with the nic bitch. She has probably will never seen him without dip and neither have his 2 kids since he started dipping at the age of 16!
Apogeeammo enjoys the music of is a Tool and is going to bring this on the train to blow everyone’s mind. He is my hero because I don’t know how much more music of ‘The Maestro’ I can take. In event of an accident just throw Apogeeammo out the window, I would have been right behind you if you didn’t bring some music! will be happy to toss him out.
Golfpro would be proud pissed to hear the craziest thing this quitter has done is you climbed the UGA coliseum and sneak into Sanford Stadium, home of the Bulldogs. I think he did this just to bask in the glory that is Georgia footballÂ….. or he was just drunk. Either way that is just good fun! This quitter bitch enjoys wearing creepy as all fuck clown masks and walking around outside in diapersÂ… With a fat dip in Well you and Francis Neon Panther have something in common there! There are going to be diapers stocked just for you on this train. I didnÂ’t think I would ever say that.
Signing up for 200 days? Abso-fucking-lutely! Then he is going to throw everything he has ever learned out the window at day 135 and say fuck you to everyone here!!!! This quitter is on the train for the long haul! ItÂ’s easy to stay quit when all you have to do is post roll and stay active on KTC, I mean after you watch some jigglies from Pinched, Emulator, and especially JazzyZag01 (We gotta find that girl and get her on this train). This is as true today as when I said it on your HOF date Inspiration comes from his fellow He decided to spit in the faces of every Resolute Bastards, and Apogeeammo wants to Zilla, Peters6278, Derk40, Canvasback, Sam83, and Applejack who have all stayed in close contact and supported him. Now get your creepy clown mask on and board this train already! get the fuck out!
Amen.
Wow talk about giving everyone the giant middle finger. You planned it and knowingly didn't use the tools..
It sucked when neon panther caved. Bothered me for days. I remember when you joined this brotherhood. I sent you a message. I rooted for you. I read your HOF speech. I followed your journey.
You can kiss my ass.
I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire. Not because you caved but because of the way you caved and the shitty way you just treated all of us.
Very disappointing AA. I know it's addiction speak, but dude you signed up for the 2nd floor. If you had a planned cave, why sign up for the 2nd floor?
You let us down. Get serious or get the fuck out. Your choice..........
A planned cave after 135 days.....What a load of shit.
Fuck this guy.
I second with the comment, "enjoy the cans dickhead"
Stay the fuck out of our KTC, we quit here.
Why bother coming back and posting that BS comment if you are not ready to be back?
Back to the can huh .... When you pull you head out of your ass,,, come back.
Did you not learn anything those 130+ days? I can't beg you to quit if you don't want it.
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Eat a bag of dicks, *edited for name call*. Let me be the first to congratulate you on the $400 you saved during your vacation from slavery though. That sure will come in handy when your family has to pay for your hospital and funeral bills.
You clearly have no respect for yourself or this House of Quit. Don't come back.
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At day 133 I posted my last roll. At day 135 I caved. I planned it and went ahead without using any of my tools that were available. I just had to try it and my intent was to quit again right after that. Long story short, it turned into a fullblown fuck fest with the nic bitch and I am not ready to get out of bed with her yet.
Sorry I let you guys down but wanted to confirm what many of you had surmised. When I'm ready to really quit I know where you are and will be back.
AA
Get the fuck out of here and stay the fuck out.
Oh you'll be back when you're ready? That statement alone tells everyone here that you belong on lite.
Enjoy your cans dickhead.
Now this is the KTC I remember...bad to the bone and harsh to all that had it coming!
I tried to reach out to you when the software change happened and it turns out you were using your frustration with the new layout as an excuse. Such Bullshit. How can you "plan" and cave after 133 days? I just don't get it. You knew where it would lead and fucking did it anyway. Weak.
I had, what I thought was the pleasure, of writing Apogeeammo's HOF Intro to the HOF Train! I have made a few changes..... Enjoy
Anyways, we have a lot of ground to cover today and we are going to make a quick shot to Marysville, KS where this quitter caver recently moved into the “Real God’s Country” sorry Ginet, but this is Starr’s home and native land. Apogeeammo shit all over it! Welcome aboard Get the fuck off the HOF Train! this quitter has been married for 25 years to his high school sweetheart Renee, who couldn't be more thrilled he has quit disappointed he gave up his good word to sleep around with the nic bitch. She has probably will never seen him without dip and neither have his 2 kids since he started dipping at the age of 16!
Apogeeammo enjoys the music of is a Tool and is going to bring this on the train to blow everyone’s mind. He is my hero because I don’t know how much more music of ‘The Maestro’ I can take. In event of an accident just throw Apogeeammo out the window, I would have been right behind you if you didn’t bring some music! will be happy to toss him out.
Golfpro would be proud pissed to hear the craziest thing this quitter has done is you climbed the UGA coliseum and sneak into Sanford Stadium, home of the Bulldogs. I think he did this just to bask in the glory that is Georgia footballÂ….. or he was just drunk. Either way that is just good fun! This quitter bitch enjoys wearing creepy as all fuck clown masks and walking around outside in diapersÂ… With a fat dip in Well you and Francis Neon Panther have something in common there! There are going to be diapers stocked just for you on this train. I didnÂ’t think I would ever say that.
Signing up for 200 days? Abso-fucking-lutely! Then he is going to throw everything he has ever learned out the window at day 135 and say fuck you to everyone here!!!! This quitter is on the train for the long haul! ItÂ’s easy to stay quit when all you have to do is post roll and stay active on KTC, I mean after you watch some jigglies from Pinched, Emulator, and especially JazzyZag01 (We gotta find that girl and get her on this train). This is as true today as when I said it on your HOF date Inspiration comes from his fellow He decided to spit in the faces of every Resolute Bastards, and Apogeeammo wants to Zilla, Peters6278, Derk40, Canvasback, Sam83, and Applejack who have all stayed in close contact and supported him. Now get your creepy clown mask on and board this train already! get the fuck out!
Amen.
Wow talk about giving everyone the giant middle finger. You planned it and knowingly didn't use the tools..
It sucked when neon panther caved. Bothered me for days. I remember when you joined this brotherhood. I sent you a message. I rooted for you. I read your HOF speech. I followed your journey.
You can kiss my ass.
I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire. Not because you caved but because of the way you caved and the shitty way you just treated all of us.
Very disappointing AA. I know it's addiction speak, but dude you signed up for the 2nd floor. If you had a planned cave, why sign up for the 2nd floor?
You let us down. Get serious or get the fuck out. Your choice..........
A planned cave after 135 days.....What a load of shit.
Fuck this guy.
I second with the comment, "enjoy the cans dickhead"
Stay the fuck out of our KTC, we quit here.
Why bother coming back and posting that BS comment if you are not ready to be back?
Back to the can huh .... When you pull you head out of your ass,,, come back.
Did you not learn anything those 130+ days? I can't beg you to quit if you don't want it.
Awfully sad.
Why?
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Was a dip really that good?
Did it give you super-human strength?
Did it magically erase all of your problems?
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Eat a bag of dicks, *edited for name call*. Let me be the first to congratulate you on the $400 you saved during your vacation from slavery though. That sure will come in handy when your family has to pay for your hospital and funeral bills.
You clearly have no respect for yourself or this House of Quit. Don't come back.
Make that 2 bags!
It figures you'd be from Kansass. Enjoy sucking the cancer tit. When you want to quit...it might be too late. Quitting loses some of it's pizzazz with half your face gone.
The sad thing is that you are turning your back on your quit brothers for what? a nicotine fix that might kill you? Really? Jesus!
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Oh, you'll be back when you're ready? I, for one, will be on the edge of my seat waiting for your triumphal return. Did you catch the sarcasm there? Piss off, Dude.
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Look you sound like a very nice and sensitive guy so I'm already regretting what will follow but you need to hear it and so do others.
This thread completely ruined my day. I spent the last 20 minutes reading all your posts and now I'm feeling damn near physically ill because you decided to cave after all the hardship and adversity you suffered throughout this stop. I'm also worried about whether we should allow you back into this community because your thread demonstrates you fought a passive battle with your addiction. Perhaps your quit group will refute me, but I saw no evidence of the fire, passion, and rudimentary problem solving necessary to quit nicotine; instead, I saw a man who learned nothing from his addiction and who chose to give up and threaten his health and his family's financial security. You clearly learned to talk the talk but you've applied none of what you learned here to your own life.
Before you commit to this site again, I want you to do several things: (1) explain your 3.25.14, and 5.1.14 posts to this entire community because I want you to convince us that you learned something from those posts and I want to hear solutions about how you are going to avoid these same long term problems once they arise again because they will; (2) I want you to act like a beacon for all the newbies who have or had less quit days than you before you pissed them away; and (3) I want you to think long and hard about your 1.22.14 post.
In your 1.22.14 post, you worried about how caving veterans would affect your quit. Well you were right. I feel like your cave has put the October and September classes in jeopardy. I've talked to some of those fine gentlemen in chat for the last two nights and they are in the middle of the suck. They need advice and positive role models to guide them during the suck; they don't need someone who chooses failure. Your caving puts their quits in jeopardy because their addict brains are looking to give them any excuse to cave. You've just taught them they can choose to FAIL. THIS IS WRONG!
Other people who have posted before me have undoubtably cursed you and told you to leave. I disagree with them because I believe in second chances; however, I promise to start a crusade to have you banned if you fail to you satisfactorily answer my questions and all questions any other member has for you because you threaten everyone.
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Look you sound like a very nice and sensitive guy so I'm already regretting what will follow but you need to hear it and so do others.
This thread completely ruined my day. I spent the last 20 minutes reading all your posts and now I'm feeling damn near physically ill because you decided to cave after all the hardship and adversity you suffered throughout this stop. I'm also worried about whether we should allow you back into this community because your thread demonstrates you fought a passive battle with your addiction. Perhaps your quit group will refute me, but I saw no evidence of the fire, passion, and rudimentary problem solving necessary to quit nicotine; instead, I saw a man who learned nothing from his addiction and who chose to give up and threaten his health and his family's financial security. You clearly learned to talk the talk but you've applied none of what you learned here to your own life.
Before you commit to this site again, I want you to do several things: (1) explain your 3.25.14, and 5.1.14 posts to this entire community because I want you to convince us that you learned something from those posts and I want to hear solutions about how you are going to avoid these same long term problems once they arise again because they will; (2) I want you to act like a beacon for all the newbies who have or had less quit days than you before you pissed them away; and (3) I want you to think long and hard about your 1.22.14 post.
In your 1.22.14 post, you worried about how caving veterans would affect your quit. Well you were right. I feel like your cave has put the October and September classes in jeopardy. I've talked to some of those fine gentlemen in chat for the last two nights and they are in the middle of the suck. They need advice and positive role models to guide them during the suck; they don't need someone who chooses failure. Your caving puts their quits in jeopardy because their addict brains are looking to give them any excuse to cave. You've just taught them they can choose to FAIL. THIS IS WRONG!
Other people who have posted before me have undoubtably cursed you and told you to leave. I disagree with them because I believe in second chances; however, I promise to start a crusade to have you banned if you fail to you satisfactorily answer my questions and all questions any other member has for you because you threaten everyone.
This ^^^^^ is accountability in action. This has taken the 3 questions to a whole new level. Way to Go Chargers.
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At day 133 I posted my last roll. At day 135 I caved. I planned it and went ahead without using any of my tools that were available. I just had to try it and my intent was to quit again right after that. Long story short, it turned into a fullblown fuck fest with the nic bitch and I am not ready to get out of bed with her yet.
Sorry I let you guys down but wanted to confirm what many of you had surmised. When I'm ready to really quit I know where you are and will be back.
AA
Get the fuck out of here and stay the fuck out.
Oh you'll be back when you're ready? That statement alone tells everyone here that you belong on lite.
Enjoy your cans dickhead.
Now this is the KTC I remember...bad to the bone and harsh to all that had it coming!
I tried to reach out to you when the software change happened and it turns out you were using your frustration with the new layout as an excuse. Such Bullshit. How can you "plan" and cave after 133 days? I just don't get it. You knew where it would lead and fucking did it anyway. Weak.
I had, what I thought was the pleasure, of writing Apogeeammo's HOF Intro to the HOF Train! I have made a few changes..... Enjoy
Anyways, we have a lot of ground to cover today and we are going to make a quick shot to Marysville, KS where this quitter caver recently moved into the “Real God’s Country” sorry Ginet, but this is Starr’s home and native land. Apogeeammo shit all over it! Welcome aboard Get the fuck off the HOF Train! this quitter has been married for 25 years to his high school sweetheart Renee, who couldn't be more thrilled he has quit disappointed he gave up his good word to sleep around with the nic bitch. She has probably will never seen him without dip and neither have his 2 kids since he started dipping at the age of 16!
Apogeeammo enjoys the music of is a Tool and is going to bring this on the train to blow everyone’s mind. He is my hero because I don’t know how much more music of ‘The Maestro’ I can take. In event of an accident just throw Apogeeammo out the window, I would have been right behind you if you didn’t bring some music! will be happy to toss him out.
Golfpro would be proud pissed to hear the craziest thing this quitter has done is you climbed the UGA coliseum and sneak into Sanford Stadium, home of the Bulldogs. I think he did this just to bask in the glory that is Georgia footballÂ….. or he was just drunk. Either way that is just good fun! This quitter bitch enjoys wearing creepy as all fuck clown masks and walking around outside in diapersÂ… With a fat dip in Well you and Francis Neon Panther have something in common there! There are going to be diapers stocked just for you on this train. I didnÂ’t think I would ever say that.
Signing up for 200 days? Abso-fucking-lutely! Then he is going to throw everything he has ever learned out the window at day 135 and say fuck you to everyone here!!!! This quitter is on the train for the long haul! ItÂ’s easy to stay quit when all you have to do is post roll and stay active on KTC, I mean after you watch some jigglies from Pinched, Emulator, and especially JazzyZag01 (We gotta find that girl and get her on this train). This is as true today as when I said it on your HOF date Inspiration comes from his fellow He decided to spit in the faces of every Resolute Bastards, and Apogeeammo wants to Zilla, Peters6278, Derk40, Canvasback, Sam83, and Applejack who have all stayed in close contact and supported him. Now get your creepy clown mask on and board this train already! get the fuck out!
Amen.
Wow talk about giving everyone the giant middle finger. You planned it and knowingly didn't use the tools..
It sucked when neon panther caved. Bothered me for days. I remember when you joined this brotherhood. I sent you a message. I rooted for you. I read your HOF speech. I followed your journey.
You can kiss my ass.
I wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire. Not because you caved but because of the way you caved and the shitty way you just treated all of us.
Very disappointing AA. I know it's addiction speak, but dude you signed up for the 2nd floor. If you had a planned cave, why sign up for the 2nd floor?
You let us down. Get serious or get the fuck out. Your choice..........
A planned cave after 135 days.....What a load of shit.
Fuck this guy.
I second with the comment, "enjoy the cans dickhead"
Stay the fuck out of our KTC, we quit here.
Why bother coming back and posting that BS comment if you are not ready to be back?
Back to the can huh .... When you pull you head out of your ass,,, come back.
Did you not learn anything those 130+ days? I can't beg you to quit if you don't want it.
Awfully sad.
Why?
AA - The great experiment. A planned cave after 135 days because you fucking wanted to try it. What, the 30 fucking years you tried it before weren't enough? To me, this is total bullshit. Quit of GTFO!!!!
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Look you sound like a very nice and sensitive guy so I'm already regretting what will follow but you need to hear it and so do others.
This thread completely ruined my day. I spent the last 20 minutes reading all your posts and now I'm feeling damn near physically ill because you decided to cave after all the hardship and adversity you suffered throughout this stop. I'm also worried about whether we should allow you back into this community because your thread demonstrates you fought a passive battle with your addiction. Perhaps your quit group will refute me, but I saw no evidence of the fire, passion, and rudimentary problem solving necessary to quit nicotine; instead, I saw a man who learned nothing from his addiction and who chose to give up and threaten his health and his family's financial security. You clearly learned to talk the talk but you've applied none of what you learned here to your own life.
Before you commit to this site again, I want you to do several things: (1) explain your 3.25.14, and 5.1.14 posts to this entire community because I want you to convince us that you learned something from those posts and I want to hear solutions about how you are going to avoid these same long term problems once they arise again because they will; (2) I want you to act like a beacon for all the newbies who have or had less quit days than you before you pissed them away; and (3) I want you to think long and hard about your 1.22.14 post.
In your 1.22.14 post, you worried about how caving veterans would affect your quit. Well you were right. I feel like your cave has put the October and September classes in jeopardy. I've talked to some of those fine gentlemen in chat for the last two nights and they are in the middle of the suck. They need advice and positive role models to guide them during the suck; they don't need someone who chooses failure. Your caving puts their quits in jeopardy because their addict brains are looking to give them any excuse to cave. You've just taught them they can choose to FAIL. THIS IS WRONG!
Other people who have posted before me have undoubtably cursed you and told you to leave. I disagree with them because I believe in second chances; however, I promise to start a crusade to have you banned if you fail to you satisfactorily answer my questions and all questions any other member has for you because you threaten everyone.
This ^^^^^ is accountability in action. This has taken the 3 questions to a whole new level. Way to Go Chargers.
Chargers this post is what we need more of around here 'worship'
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Okay, i get the message! Moderator please remove me from the forum. I get it. Goodbye.
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Okay, i get the message! Moderator please remove me from the forum. I get it. Goodbye.
That's the message you got? Come on you've been around this site long enough to know better. My guess, that was a planned rationalization to some how come to terms with that little voice in your head that knows you fucked up and are allowing yourself to be controlled by nicotine. You come in here after a month of avoiding people's real questions to you and throw a tennis ball in the air. Not that you caved but a cavalier attitude and a "I am going to keep finger banging the bitch, I like it". Honestly...you were one of the guys I felt connected with...I know you know how ridiculous your apparent reaction to the comments are. We are are quit here...period. I truly hope you quit fucking around and get real. Planned cave, now a planned reaction to peoples comments....comments you knew damn well were coming. We are here for quitters and those wishing to quit. You clearly stated that is not your intention. When it is this site has alot to offer, until then you have made yourself a distraction to those who are and want to be quit and you are acting like a troll. You know damn well what the response to your comments will be. So are you going to man the fuck up or are you going to now pretend somehow people's comments are the reason that shit is in your mouth?
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At day 133 I posted my last roll. At day 135 I caved. I planned it and went ahead without using any of my tools that were available. I just had to try it and my intent was to quit again right after that. Long story short, it turned into a fullblown fuck fest with the nic bitch and I am not ready to get out of bed with her yet.
Sorry I let you guys down but wanted to confirm what many of you had surmised. When I'm ready to really quit I know where you are and will be back.
AA
I'm sorry but this is just about another dumbass who didn't get what we were all trying to do. Except for the part about rubbin you nic encrusted dick in our faces.. Nice touch... We really don't need you to come back. There is another site that might though....
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At day 133 I posted my last roll. At day 135 I caved. I planned it and went ahead without using any of my tools that were available. I just had to try it and my intent was to quit again right after that. Long story short, it turned into a fullblown fuck fest with the nic bitch and I am not ready to get out of bed with her yet.
Sorry I let you guys down but wanted to confirm what many of you had surmised. When I'm ready to really quit I know where you are and will be back.
AA
I'm sorry but this is just about another dumbass who didn't get what we were all trying to do. Except for the part about rubbin you nic encrusted dick in our faces.. Nice touch... We really don't need you to come back. There is another site that might though....
Trying?....that fucker tried....we all are DOING! Quit Like Fuck with you Doc and anyone else who is a DOER!
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At day 133 I posted my last roll. At day 135 I caved. I planned it and went ahead without using any of my tools that were available. I just had to try it and my intent was to quit again right after that. Long story short, it turned into a fullblown fuck fest with the nic bitch and I am not ready to get out of bed with her yet.
Sorry I let you guys down but wanted to confirm what many of you had surmised. When I'm ready to really quit I know where you are and will be back.
AA
I'm sorry but this is just about another dumbass who didn't get what we were all trying to do. Except for the part about rubbin you nic encrusted dick in our faces.. Nice touch... We really don't need you to come back. There is another site that might though....
Trying?....that fucker tried....we all are DOING! Quit Like Fuck with you Doc and anyone else who is a DOER!
Do or Don't... There is no TRY
and stop lurking Nancy!
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AA did you even bother to read what I wrote? Everything we do here depends upon choosing to hate nicotine and choosing to love ourselves. We choose to hate nicotine and love ourselves every damn day. Hate and love helps us reclaim our health, lives, and integrity because hate and love prevents us from missing nicotine. When we miss it we eventually fail. Re-read this thread and you will see for yourself a man who who caved because he missed nicotine. You chose to quit for money; you didn't chose to quit because you hated nicotine and loved yourself.
AA the mods are not going to remove you. They won't let you off that easily because they won't let you chose to fail entirely. You need to hear this abuse. Your story is similar to many I've encountered here. You are an older man with a family and kids. I'm many years younger than you and single but I chose to hate nicotine and love myself every damn day. How can you chose to miss it when you have more to lose than I?
Get your ass back in here and recommit to the program.
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AA did you even bother to read what I wrote? Everything we do here depends upon choosing to hate nicotine and choosing to love ourselves. We choose to hate nicotine and love ourselves every damn day. Hate and love helps us reclaim our health, lives, and integrity because hate and love prevents us from missing nicotine. When we miss it we eventually fail. Re-read this thread and you will see for yourself a man who who caved because he missed nicotine. You chose to quit for money; you didn't chose to quit because you hated nicotine and loved yourself.
AA the mods are not going to remove you. They won't let you off that easily because they won't let you chose to fail entirely. You need to hear this abuse. Your story is similar to many I've encountered here. You are an older man with a family and kids. I'm many years younger than you and single but I chose to hate nicotine and love myself every damn day. How can you chose to miss it when you have more to lose than I?
Get your ass back in here and recommit to the program.
Apo... Quit acting like a baby. Is dipping more important than living? What do you like about being owned by the nic B?
We won't take down you intro because people need to learn from you. Why don't you show us how you turn this all around and quit!
You have a choice in this matter... No one is forcing you to dip today.
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Okay, i get the message! Moderator please remove me from the forum. I get it. Goodbye.
No AA, you don't get it. Dude the nic bitch is in your head. Read your own signature lines!!
You get this reaction because we want you to QUIT, instead of a temp stop........
Man up get your ass back in here!
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Look you sound like a very nice and sensitive guy so I'm already regretting what will follow but you need to hear it and so do others.
This thread completely ruined my day. I spent the last 20 minutes reading all your posts and now I'm feeling damn near physically ill because you decided to cave after all the hardship and adversity you suffered throughout this stop. I'm also worried about whether we should allow you back into this community because your thread demonstrates you fought a passive battle with your addiction. Perhaps your quit group will refute me, but I saw no evidence of the fire, passion, and rudimentary problem solving necessary to quit nicotine; instead, I saw a man who learned nothing from his addiction and who chose to give up and threaten his health and his family's financial security. You clearly learned to talk the talk but you've applied none of what you learned here to your own life.
Before you commit to this site again, I want you to do several things: (1) explain your 3.25.14, and 5.1.14 posts to this entire community because I want you to convince us that you learned something from those posts and I want to hear solutions about how you are going to avoid these same long term problems once they arise again because they will; (2) I want you to act like a beacon for all the newbies who have or had less quit days than you before you pissed them away; and (3) I want you to think long and hard about your 1.22.14 post.
In your 1.22.14 post, you worried about how caving veterans would affect your quit. Well you were right. I feel like your cave has put the October and September classes in jeopardy. I've talked to some of those fine gentlemen in chat for the last two nights and they are in the middle of the suck. They need advice and positive role models to guide them during the suck; they don't need someone who chooses failure. Your caving puts their quits in jeopardy because their addict brains are looking to give them any excuse to cave. You've just taught them they can choose to FAIL. THIS IS WRONG!
Other people who have posted before me have undoubtably cursed you and told you to leave. I disagree with them because I believe in second chances; however, I promise to start a crusade to have you banned if you fail to you satisfactorily answer my questions and all questions any other member has for you because you threaten everyone.
This ^^^^^ is accountability in action. This has taken the 3 questions to a whole new level. Way to Go Chargers.
Chargers this post is what we need more of around here 'worship'
The Poon Saloon is well represented on this thread. BadAss!
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You're not ready to get out of bed with her yet?
How does it feel to be OWNED?
How does it feel to be a lieing coward? How does it feel to turn your back and ass fuck people who care about you, TWICE? Once when you caved, and then again when you refute their urges to answer the three questions and start again?
What do you feel like when you get up in the morning? What goes through your mind as you grab a pinch and put it in your mouth knowing how many people you are letting down?
How does it feel to invest 133 days into something and then just piss it away?
How does all that really feel? I'm serious, I honestly want to know.
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You're not ready to get out of bed with her yet?
How does it feel to be OWNED?
How does it feel to be a lieing coward? How does it feel to turn your back and ass fuck people who care about you, TWICE? Once when you caved, and then again when you refute their urges to answer the three questions and start again?
What do you feel like when you get up in the morning? What goes through your mind as you grab a pinch and put it in your mouth knowing how many people you are letting down?
How does it feel to invest 133 days into something and then just piss it away?
How does all that really feel? I'm serious, I honestly want to know.
These are great questions, and I'm honestly interested in what that feels like.
Come to think of it, I have a few more. That avatar, is that your son? Is he wearing a clown mask because he is ashamed of his father? Would he be ashamed of you if he understood what you just did? Will you tell him, or just keep it a secret...or just ninja dip around him? When he's older and goes to grab a pinch, what will you tell him? It's ok? If Tony Gwynn's misfortune happens to you, what will you tell him then? What will you tell your wife? Would you tell her what you wrote in your post, a full on fuck fest and you're not ready to get out of bed with her?
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You're not ready to get out of bed with her yet?
How does it feel to be OWNED?
How does it feel to be a lieing coward? How does it feel to turn your back and ass fuck people who care about you, TWICE? Once when you caved, and then again when you refute their urges to answer the three questions and start again?
What do you feel like when you get up in the morning? What goes through your mind as you grab a pinch and put it in your mouth knowing how many people you are letting down?
How does it feel to invest 133 days into something and then just piss it away?
How does all that really feel? I'm serious, I honestly want to know.
These are great questions, and I'm honestly interested in what that feels like.
Come to think of it, I have a few more. That avatar, is that your son? Is he wearing a clown mask because he is ashamed of his father? Would he be ashamed of you if he understood what you just did? Will you tell him, or just keep it a secret...or just ninja dip around him? When he's older and goes to grab a pinch, what will you tell him? It's ok? If Tony Gwynn's misfortune happens to you, what will you tell him then? What will you tell your wife? Would you tell her what you wrote in your post, a full on fuck fest and you're not ready to get out of bed with her?
This is dissapointing.
This bullshit makes my quit stronger. If you get complacent you will fuck it up.
Thanks for the reminder AA.
Qlf
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You're not ready to get out of bed with her yet?
How does it feel to be OWNED?
How does it feel to be a lieing coward? How does it feel to turn your back and ass fuck people who care about you, TWICE? Once when you caved, and then again when you refute their urges to answer the three questions and start again?
What do you feel like when you get up in the morning? What goes through your mind as you grab a pinch and put it in your mouth knowing how many people you are letting down?
How does it feel to invest 133 days into something and then just piss it away?
How does all that really feel? I'm serious, I honestly want to know.
These are great questions, and I'm honestly interested in what that feels like.
Come to think of it, I have a few more. That avatar, is that your son? Is he wearing a clown mask because he is ashamed of his father? Would he be ashamed of you if he understood what you just did? Will you tell him, or just keep it a secret...or just ninja dip around him? When he's older and goes to grab a pinch, what will you tell him? It's ok? If Tony Gwynn's misfortune happens to you, what will you tell him then? What will you tell your wife? Would you tell her what you wrote in your post, a full on fuck fest and you're not ready to get out of bed with her?
This is dissapointing.
This bullshit makes my quit stronger. If you get complacent you will fuck it up.
Thanks for the reminder AA.
Qlf
That's the right attitude. Disappointed that he doesn't understand addiction and choose to be strong. But using his weakness to strengthen your own quit.