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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: 3 kids dad on March 10, 2011, 10:32:00 PM
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26 years ago I started something stupid. Now I want to kick the habit. Scared? oh yeah! My old friend will be going away. it was there through the bad times, good times, stressful times and scarey times of my life. Now I want to make sure my son doesn't grow up thinking it's ok to chew. I 've been reducing the amount i chew for two days now until all my cans are empty. i am sitting here with my last pinch and ready to start the 1st full day without any chew. I've already had the beginnings of withdrawal, Headaches. Now what will come.? II am starting the first full day without chew on a Friday and I am worried about how the weekend will go. Oh man am i scared, I really wan to quit for good this time
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Wow. You sound just like all of us quiters.
This is a good start
A how to get started by Remy:
index.php?showtopic=1360 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=1360)
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Quit Groups, What do they mean, by SOS
index.php?showtopic=88 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=88)
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Roll call, why we do it your word by LOOT.
index.php?showtopic=120 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=120)
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What to Expect when you quit.
http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/what.asp)
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Symptoms of Quitting dip and chew
http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/symptoms.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/yourquit/symptoms.asp)
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Contract to give up...
http://www.killthecan.org/facts/contract.asp (http://www.killthecan.org/facts/contract.asp)
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Smokeless alternatives
http://killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp (http://killthecan.org/yourquit/alternatives.asp)
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Words of Wisdom, Read them all
index.php?showforum=41 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=41)
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May 2008 TTFers
index.php?showtopic=1179 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=1179)
Read this group from the very first post to the very last post.
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How to post roll.
index.php?showtopic=50 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50)
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How to Post ROLL CALL - Roll Call Instructions
Step 1 - Find the last (MOST RECENT) Roll Call
Step 2 - Hit the "Quote" button in the upper right hand corner.
Step 3 - Click your mouse ANYWHERE in The bottom Box
Step 4 - Hit Ctrl and "A" at the Same time so it looks like THIS
Step 5 - Hit Ctrl and "X" at the same time so there is NOTHING in Either Box
Step 6 - Click your mouse in the TOP BOX
Step 7 - Hit Ctrl and "V" at the same time to Past the info into the top box AND ADD YOUR info to the bottom of the list
Step 8 - Hit ADD REPLY below the bottom box
Step 9 - Go back to the 1st unread post, check to see that the last few people to post are still on your roll call. Keep your word.
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26 years ago I started something stupid. Now I want to kick the habit. Scared? oh yeah! My old friend will be going away. it was there through the bad times, good times, stressful times and scarey times of my life. Now I want to make sure my son doesn't grow up thinking it's ok to chew. I 've been reducing the amount i chew for two days now until all my cans are empty. i am sitting here with my last pinch and ready to start the 1st full day without any chew. I've already had the beginnings of withdrawal, Headaches. Now what will come.? II am starting the first full day without chew on a Friday and I am worried about how the weekend will go. Oh man am i scared, I really wan to quit for good this time
Why not toss it right now and make this day 1? Your old friend is helping you to slowly commit suicide. You never know if this is the dip that turns on the cancer cell. Do this quit for you and turn the fear into rage at getting addicted to something that would kill you. Get the crap out of your lip, flush the rest, grab the wheel tight and hold on for a wild ride.
Know this. Quitting is tough to start but it gets better fast......and the cravings won't kill you. The freedom is amazing.
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26 years ago I started something stupid. Now I want to kick the habit. Scared? oh yeah! My old friend will be going away. it was there through the bad times, good times, stressful times and scarey times of my life. Now I want to make sure my son doesn't grow up thinking it's ok to chew. I 've been reducing the amount i chew for two days now until all my cans are empty. i am sitting here with my last pinch and ready to start the 1st full day without any chew. I've already had the beginnings of withdrawal, Headaches. Now what will come.? II am starting the first full day without chew on a Friday and I am worried about how the weekend will go. Oh man am i scared, I really wan to quit for good this time
good choice my friend you are at the right place to quit i diped for close to 30 yrs its not easy to lay down but it can be done get in here and read every thing you can post roll tomorrow morning get numbers from people in your group and some of the vets pm me if you want mine these are your life line so throw that shit away and we will see you in the morning
g mack
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26 years ago I started something stupid. Now I want to kick the habit. Scared? oh yeah! My old friend will be going away. it was there through the bad times, good times, stressful times and scarey times of my life. Now I want to make sure my son doesn't grow up thinking it's ok to chew. I 've been reducing the amount i chew for two days now until all my cans are empty. i am sitting here with my last pinch and ready to start the 1st full day without any chew. I've already had the beginnings of withdrawal, Headaches. Now what will come.? II am starting the first full day without chew on a Friday and I am worried about how the weekend will go. Oh man am i scared, I really wan to quit for good this time
Why not toss it right now and make this day 1? Your old friend is helping you to slowly commit suicide. You never know if this is the dip that turns on the cancer cell. Do this quit for you and turn the fear into rage at getting addicted to something that would kill you. Get the crap out of your lip, flush the rest, grab the wheel tight and hold on for a wild ride.
Know this. Quitting is tough to start but it gets better fast......and the cravings won't kill you. The freedom is amazing.
Yes; It is 10:41 EST. Lets just knock this out. Quit, post roll day one. Wake up and post roll day 2. I love it. What are your thoughts 3 kids?
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26 years ago I started something stupid. Now I want to kick the habit. Scared? oh yeah! My old friend will be going away. it was there through the bad times, good times, stressful times and scarey times of my life. Now I want to make sure my son doesn't grow up thinking it's ok to chew. I 've been reducing the amount i chew for two days now until all my cans are empty. i am sitting here with my last pinch and ready to start the 1st full day without any chew. I've already had the beginnings of withdrawal, Headaches. Now what will come.? II am starting the first full day without chew on a Friday and I am worried about how the weekend will go. Oh man am i scared, I really wan to quit for good this time
Why not toss it right now and make this day 1? Your old friend is helping you to slowly commit suicide. You never know if this is the dip that turns on the cancer cell. Do this quit for you and turn the fear into rage at getting addicted to something that would kill you. Get the crap out of your lip, flush the rest, grab the wheel tight and hold on for a wild ride.
Know this. Quitting is tough to start but it gets better fast......and the cravings won't kill you. The freedom is amazing.
Yes; It is 10:41 EST. Lets just knock this out. Quit, post roll day one. Wake up and post roll day 2. I love it. What are your thoughts 3 kids?
The can was always there because you were an addict and made sure it was there. I bet there were times you patted your pocket just to make sure your can was still there or opened your can to be sure you had enough to make it through the night, right? We all did. Because we are addicted to nicotine. It's no "habit" my friend.
If you truly want to quit, dump the shit right now and go post your day 1 of nicotine freedom. There is nothing more important this minute than this decision. Tomorrow will present a reason why you need to put off your quit, for example, stress at work, one last hunting trip with the can or my vagina hurts. There is no better time than right now. Today's the decision day.
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26 years ago I started something stupid. Now I want to kick the habit. Scared? oh yeah! My old friend will be going away. it was there through the bad times, good times, stressful times and scarey times of my life. Now I want to make sure my son doesn't grow up thinking it's ok to chew. I 've been reducing the amount i chew for two days now until all my cans are empty. i am sitting here with my last pinch and ready to start the 1st full day without any chew. I've already had the beginnings of withdrawal, Headaches. Now what will come.? II am starting the first full day without chew on a Friday and I am worried about how the weekend will go. Oh man am i scared, I really wan to quit for good this time
Yeah I have three kids too. Chewed can a day for just shy 30 yrs. Red letter day when my 12 yr old son drank from one of my spitters. Just wait, keep the shit up and it will happen to you too.
Stop being a shitty role model to your son (like I was too) and quit right now. And no, the chew wasn't there for you. It didn't give you love support or encouragement. Only family and friends fill that role. It was just a drug and nothing more.
What's scary is thinking about explaining to your kids why you have cancer and wont be around to see them grow up. That scares the shit out of me - not worrying about the next dip...
Flush the last bit of that crap and quit. Now. Then post role. Everyday.
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MileHigh,
There is nothing to be worried about, quitting can't kill you and you get to choose to be successful or to fail. Luck and hope don't have anything to do with it. This shit is easier than you think so don't psych yourself up.
Day one- Your going to have some cravings. They will last for an average of seven minutes apiece. You might have just a few or you may have a bunch. You can't hide from them or ignore em. Let yourself feel it for a second and acknowledge to yourself that your body is craving nicotine because your going thru withdrawl. Maybe you feel anxious or irritatable , you might feel buzzed in an odd way or even just plan foggy. Like trying to think thru velvet. Make a note of how it feels, then take a deep breath and let it go. Move on to something else.
The craves won't kill you I promise
It is entirely possible to quit dipping- I am 2 years quit coming off a 23 year habit averaging 2 cans a day... plus smokes. If I can do it so can you.
This is the price your going to have to pay to earn your freedom. Embrace it.
If you can flip the switch in your head that your done with that shit come hell or highwater, no matter what happens your quit is easy. You'll feel the physical effects of withdrawl but you can handle them with acceptance rather than going kicking and screaming. This is what we mean by embrace the suck. Feeling like crap for 72 hours is to be expected when your purging a poison from your body.
I don't know about you, but for my son I would go thru any level of hell to keep him from this path we have choosen for ourselves. A little temporary pain from quitting seems like a small price to pay doesn't it?
Some things that will help you tremendously
Read- The Tom and Jenny Kern Story- follow the link to the caring bridge site and read Jenny's journal, read the posts by Toms kids to a Dad that has been dead for 5 years. How they still miss him. Think hard about what this addiction of yours can inflict on your family. Then move on to the rest of the stories on here until you find something that you can hold onto.
Walk- when your craving or feel like your going to smash the bosses head in with a stapler take a walk. around the block or around the building doesn't matter. IF you have to do it 100 times a day for the first few days do it. The excercise will reduce the number of cravings dramatically and removing yourself from the source of the aggravation will help as well. If you can work out as wel all the better. I can't stress how much excercise can help you .
Blood sugar- keep it stable, sip on fruit juice during the day, dip has alot of sugar in it. If you have a sugar crash your going to crave. Keeping your blood sugar levels up with cranberry or pineapple juice will help you tremendously.
Caffiene- cut WAY back- nicotine makes it so you can handle more caffiene. Go easy. If your a pot a day guy it is going to hit you ALOT HARDER try cutting back for the next few days it'll help.
Sleep- maybe a little off for a few days- tylenol pm works wonders.
Post up- If you get in trouble go to chat and let em know your struggling. No shame in it, they have ALL been right where you are. You can post up here in your intro any thoughts or better yet post it in your group. Those guys are going thru the same thing as you right now.
Last- keep in mind that you have made a choice to leave that crap in the past. It was never your friend and you'll learn that soon enough. Your a junkie, like a heroin addict or a coke fiend. Your choice of drug just happens to be nicotine. The little addict in you will have a thousand reasons why you can have a dip, they are ALL lies. Chew isn't good for anything but keeping you addicted to chew.
You can do this, sing out when you need help were here and we get it.
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26 years ago I started something stupid. Now I want to kick the habit. Scared? oh yeah! My old friend will be going away. it was there through the bad times, good times, stressful times and scarey times of my life. Now I want to make sure my son doesn't grow up thinking it's ok to chew. I 've been reducing the amount i chew for two days now until all my cans are empty. i am sitting here with my last pinch and ready to start the 1st full day without any chew. I've already had the beginnings of withdrawal, Headaches. Now what will come.? II am starting the first full day without chew on a Friday and I am worried about how the weekend will go. Oh man am i scared, I really wan to quit for good this time
It's tomorrow. Did you live up to your word that today was when you would toss it from your life? To continue to dip is the scary thing to me. You were logged in and that would have been a good time to give an update or seek some help. We can only help out if you're here.
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26 years ago I started something stupid. Now I want to kick the habit. Scared? oh yeah! My old friend will be going away. it was there through the bad times, good times, stressful times and scarey times of my life. Now I want to make sure my son doesn't grow up thinking it's ok to chew. I 've been reducing the amount i chew for two days now until all my cans are empty. i am sitting here with my last pinch and ready to start the 1st full day without any chew. I've already had the beginnings of withdrawal, Headaches. Now what will come.? II am starting the first full day without chew on a Friday and I am worried about how the weekend will go. Oh man am i scared, I really wan to quit for good this time
It's tomorrow. Did you live up to your word that today was when you would toss it from your life? To continue to dip is the scary thing to me. You were logged in and that would have been a good time to give an update or seek some help. We can only help out if you're here.
Quite possibly a prime example of why "I will quit tomorrow" rarely works.
There is no tomorrow. The time to quit is RIGHT NOW. Quitting will not be easier tomorrow, or next week.
Deal with the reality of it. This will suck in the short term. But you can do it. And it will get so much better. But you have got to quit, and pay the price in order to feel that freedom.
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26 years ago I started something stupid. Now I want to kick the habit. Scared? oh yeah! My old friend will be going away. it was there through the bad times, good times, stressful times and scarey times of my life. Now I want to make sure my son doesn't grow up thinking it's ok to chew. I 've been reducing the amount i chew for two days now until all my cans are empty. i am sitting here with my last pinch and ready to start the 1st full day without any chew. I've already had the beginnings of withdrawal, Headaches. Now what will come.? II am starting the first full day without chew on a Friday and I am worried about how the weekend will go. Oh man am i scared, I really wan to quit for good this time
SO you want to...Did you? Or did you fail like all the other times in the past 26 years. Did you decide to sack up and do it or are you still sitting around "wanting to quit" with a wad of shit in your mouth?
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Congratulations, it's tomorrow!
Now where the hell are you? _
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Indeed it will suck. You see you spent 26 years slowly killing yourself. Much of us did the same thing. There is no magical cure, it will come with time. In time you will see that your friend was actually your enemy. Slowly stroking your nuts to make you fee safe, secure, relaxed, etc. She knows you better than your family, your wife, even yourself. She has her web all around you. Once you quit you start slowly pulling each strand off. It will suck at first, there are many strands still clinging to you trying to keep you close to the can. Embrace it, feel how shitty it is. This is actually cleansing. In time you will realize you can do ANYTHING without nicotene. In time you will find out that you can find other mechanisms to relax yourself, or calm your nerves. You thought nicotene did that for you, but that was just the web. It was all a lie.
The longer you put off Day 1, the more strands of the web attach. Do it. Do it now.
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Hey Mr. 3 kids dad,
What's the deal here? You created an introduction for yourself, you got support flooding in out the wazoo, and I don't see any form of gratitude or recognition to the many brothers that ARE QUIT that have invested time, encouragement, support, in your well-being. You don't have to answer the question, I know what the deal is...you ARE ideed scared, just like you said. You can't give it up for some reason because you're different from all of us? No, you're not different, you are an addict. We all are addicts. It's time to man-up dad. Grow some balls and spit that shit out, flush it down the toilet and go post roll already. Give us some response maybe? Be a man! Remain a Dad!
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"Dad you're not going to die for long time right?"
"One sec bud. Let me rinse out this dip and I'll answer that."
That's word for word an exchange between me and my 4 year old boy Jack about six months ago. I realized something at that point. I was acting like a child putting that crap in my mouth. I wasn't a man. I hadn't "manned up" and stopped knowingly killing myself on a daily basis. I'm just speaking from my soul here...if your a dad, and your putting that shit in your body, you're not a man, you're a fool...an addict. I was a fool and an addict and now I'm fighting daily not to be. Just my perspective on my experience.
Get with the program 3kd. Make a decision to get things right.
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I am starting the first full day without chew on a Friday and I am worried about how the weekend will go. Oh man am i scared, I really wan to quit for good this time
# Pseudo-code for prototype Fail-Engine
quit = 0 ; # No reason to chew
IF (quit + (tomorrow|worried|weekend|scared)) then FAIL and EXIT
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Hey Mr. 3 kids dad,
What's the deal here? You created an introduction for yourself, you got support flooding in out the wazoo, and I don't see any form of gratitude or recognition to the many brothers that ARE QUIT that have invested time, encouragement, support, in your well-being. You don't have to answer the question, I know what the deal is...you ARE ideed scared, just like you said. You can't give it up for some reason because you're different from all of us? No, you're not different, you are an addict. We all are addicts. It's time to man-up dad. Grow some balls and spit that shit out, flush it down the toilet and go post roll already. Give us some response maybe? Be a man! Remain a Dad!
It's because he's a caver, he doesn't have what it takes to be among the quitters. If he did, he would have introduced himself saying "I quit today," not, "I'm going to quit tomorrow"
There are lots of Tomorrows. There is only one today.
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Your not little orphan Annie , You can't quit Tomorrow because like the song says, (almost) its always a day away. Your a sneaky little addict aren't you? by quitting tomorrow you get to use today. Good plan you'll never have to actually quit if you keep scheduling your quit in the future. _ .
There is only one time to quit and that is right fucking NOW!!!!!!!!!! DO IT, spit it out flush the rest , grab your marbles and get quit. If I can do it so can you
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Ok, Ok . This is the way it went down. The first two days sucked more than I could have imagined. I wanted to stuff my face with two cans of that wonderful tasting fine cut Skoal. Well I didn't !!!!!!!! It's been tough, 2 cans a day for 26 years. Shit, i would love to have all that money back. I've been doing alright today, Eating a lot of candy and fruit. Don't know why but i am actually craving the fruit instead of chew today. I spent most of my day working in my garage and on my cars, this is where im used to having it in my mouth while i work. I got past that feeling of missing it and continued to work spending time in the places i normally would have a pinch and getting used to not having it when im in these certain places. Yeah so it's day three, did you ever see the cigarette commercial with the "SUCKOMETER" ? I now know first hand the feeling that guy had when he looked at the meter and it was pegged. all in all not a bad day, keeping myself really busy today helped. But then again tomorrow is Monday and it's back to work for that Psychotic boss. Yep he really is nuts. Im gonna tell him to fuck off if he buggs me the slightest bit. Got no time for his shit right now and I'm not going to let him fuck up what has been a great thing for me to accomplish. Thanks for all the comments over the past two days. It's good to know others understand the anguish i am and other quitters are going through.
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I'm happy for you dad.
I'd like to see you post roll call.
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Less drama. More posting roll. Commit. Until then, you still dip as far as I am concerned.
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I've been quit for 6 days and fucking loving it. It's easy after you make the decision...have you quit yet?
OWN your QUIT or get PWNED by NIC...your choice Dad.
I hope you post roll with me tomorrow.
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'boob'
wow I am actually starting to feel like i can do this 'Finger' SKOAL
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Congrats on the quit. Post roll, make the commitment with the rest of us and take it one day at a time.
Glad you are quit.
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I wanted to stuff my face with two cans of that wonderful tasting fine cut Skoal. Well I didn't !!!!!!!!
Glad you didn't. But.....it tasted like shit, as did all the other crap they put out there. Quit romanticizing.
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I didn't see you post roll so I guess you're not serious about your quit.
'Finger' for wasting everyone's time.
We can't make this decision for you.
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I didn't see you post roll so I guess you're not serious about your quit.
'Finger' for wasting everyone's time.
We can't make this decision for you.
3 little monkeys dad,
Going back in forth in your introduction here IS NOT what we are considering posting Roll. Until we see your name in the June2011 quit group, nobody is going to take your quit seriously. So do it TODAY, do it NOW...don't reply here until that step is done!
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I didn't see you post roll so I guess you're not serious about your quit.
'Finger' for wasting everyone's time.
We can't make this decision for you.
3 little monkeys dad,
Going back in forth in your introduction here IS NOT what we are considering posting Roll. Until we see your name in the June2011 quit group, nobody is going to take your quit seriously. So do it TODAY, do it NOW...don't reply here until that step is done!
He's a faker, just wasting everyone's time.
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'Finger' 'Finger' 'Finger' Think what you want, I'm not here for you to approve of what I join or don't join. I choose not to chew anymore. 26 years ago I joined something i shouldn't have 'Finger' . If you don't think im serious about quitting fine, fuck off and go piss off someone else. I don't have time for your shit.
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'Finger' 'Finger' 'Finger' Think what you want, I'm not here for you to approve of what I join or don't join. I choose not to chew anymore. 26 years ago I joined something i shouldn't have 'Finger' . If you don't think im serious about quitting fine, fuck off and go piss off someone else. I don't have time for your shit.
sigh.....another lone ranger.
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'Finger' 'Finger' 'Finger' Think what you want, I'm not here for you to approve of what I join or don't join. I choose not to chew anymore. 26 years ago I joined something i shouldn't have 'Finger' . If you don't think im serious about quitting fine, fuck off and go piss off someone else. I don't have time for your shit.
This site is about posting roll every morning. Get with the program.
You don't go to a porn site to check out the background colors or to ebay to look at the advertisements.
Don't come to this site and say your gonna quit without joining your group and posting roll every day.
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'Finger' 'Finger' 'Finger' Think what you want, I'm not here for you to approve of what I join or don't join. I choose not to chew anymore. 26 years ago I joined something i shouldn't have 'Finger' . If you don't think im serious about quitting fine, fuck off and go piss off someone else. I don't have time for your shit.
If you come here seeking help at least try to be respectful toward what KTC embodies. Understand why we post roll and then do it. Read 1-4 here. (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13)
If you just want to post updates about how your quit is going...setup a twitter account and have at it.
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'Finger' 'Finger' 'Finger' Think what you want, I'm not here for you to approve of what I join or don't join. I choose not to chew anymore. 26 years ago I joined something i shouldn't have 'Finger' . If you don't think im serious about quitting fine, fuck off and go piss off someone else. I don't have time for your shit.
So you don't have time for our shit, you don't have time to post roll, then go somewhere else. If you want to be a part of this site, then be a part of this site and follow the rules that govern it. Whether you join or dont join, quit or don't quit, is a decision you make.
All we are saying is that if you join this organization, there are rules that are to be followed.
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'Finger' 'Finger' 'Finger' Think what you want, I'm not here for you to approve of what I join or don't join. I choose not to chew anymore. 26 years ago I joined something i shouldn't have 'Finger' . If you don't think im serious about quitting fine, fuck off and go piss off someone else. I don't have time for your shit.
You know, in all the time you spent arguing with people on here you could have posted roll every day, gained some respect, and had everyone off your back. Dude use some common sense. Like bigbamadan said, get a fuckin twitter account if you want to post up on your own schedule. Or get with how this site works and work with us and not against us. In other words quit being a fucking asshole.
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Let me look into my crystal ball and see what your future is 3 kids dad......I see an epic fail and continued slavery...post roll and prove me wrong...or just go 'Finger' yourself...your choice.
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Just my two cents ...... in this battle I am fighting with my addiction, two things have made my quit, THE quit of my life ........ the support here and the accountability. Did I need both ever second of my quit? Nope. But in those dark times when the craves are the worst and I am weak and about to cave? The support here and being accountable for my actions have saved my quit on ever occassion.
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I too have "quit" several times in the past. But this is the first time I have a feeling that it is "THE" quit. It stems from the fact that I know I have support and tough love when needed from the people here on this site.
They've been through it. Fought the wars, battled the addiction and have come out on the other side. They are the success stories so it would be wise to listen to their advice. If they say post roll, then damnit get your ass in there and post roll. If you don't understand why thats okay, perhaps down the road you will.
There is a system, and it has worked for these guys. If you're going to help yourself to the perks of this site you might want to consider following the system the site was based on.
Or go your own way, your quit is not my concern.....
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In other words quit being a fucking asshole.
Join the home team and come on in for the win son...