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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Sheriff1974 on December 12, 2013, 02:20:00 PM
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Greetings all, I hope this post ends up in the correct place. While I'm not exactly computer illiterate, posting on a website takes me out of my usual Email--Reply--Email ---Reply skill set.
Long time cop.....long time "chewer". Longest quit was when my daughter was born, nine years ago, and I took a whole month of family leave. Minute I got back to work I got into a vehicle pursuit right outta the barn, caught bad guy, lodged in jail, went directly to a Plaid Pantry and bought a can.....called it my "victory chew".
Screwed up and got myself elected Sheriff, and in this first year I noticed a couple of things. My budget went down, my blood pressure went up, and I was chewing a CAN A DAY!
I'm in good shape, work out, have a great life, loving family. What the hell am I doing trying to kill myself?
Then I stumbled onto this site. Spent two very late nights reading through the testimonials. It put voice to the fact that I was an addict much like so many of you (which is ironic since I've spent a career as a "dope cop", arresting crack-heroin-meth junkies). And that I needed support. But in the countryfied world that I live in, if you said you were going to a support group for "chewers" they would effectively pull your man card. But this, this site is something more.
I quit two days ago. Waited this long to post. This quit is killing me......the "fog", after meals, during meetings, driving in my patrol car.....I am using the fake stuff, and it helps, but I'm also lethargic, grumpy, and eating myself out of house and home.
Looking forward to having people to lean on......
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Welcome....You story sounds a lot like mine....Here is the deal, I know what you going through, and know of the stress. Come here to vent remember it is not your families fault you where a dumbass. Get some seeds, drink a lot of water, toothpicks, hard candies and such. Learn how to post roll and make your promise when you first wake up. Read all you can and jump into chat. Stay out of the gas stations while at work. I will send you my contact and will post up with you each and every day. This will be the best decision you ever made.
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Greetings all, I hope this post ends up in the correct place. While I'm not exactly computer illiterate, posting on a website takes me out of my usual Email--Reply--Email ---Reply skill set.
Long time cop.....long time "chewer". Longest quit was when my daughter was born, nine years ago, and I took a whole month of family leave. Minute I got back to work I got into a vehicle pursuit right outta the barn, caught bad guy, lodged in jail, went directly to a Plaid Pantry and bought a can.....called it my "victory chew".
Screwed up and got myself elected Sheriff, and in this first year I noticed a couple of things. My budget went down, my blood pressure went up, and I was chewing a CAN A DAY!
I'm in good shape, work out, have a great life, loving family. What the hell am I doing trying to kill myself?
Then I stumbled onto this site. Spent two very late nights reading through the testimonials. It put voice to the fact that I was an addict much like so many of you (which is ironic since I've spent a career as a "dope cop", arresting crack-heroin-meth junkies). And that I needed support. But in the countryfied world that I live in, if you said you were going to a support group for "chewers" they would effectively pull your man card. But this, this site is something more.
I quit two days ago. Waited this long to post. This quit is killing me......the "fog", after meals, during meetings, driving in my patrol car.....I am using the fake stuff, and it helps, but I'm also lethargic, grumpy, and eating myself out of house and home.
Looking forward to having people to lean on......
Welcome to KTC Sheriff,
I like you didn't think of myself as an addict before I came here, it actually took about a month before I came to grips with the fact of addiction.
The first 3 weeks were horrible for me and I can barely understand how I made it through each day. Those days sucked.
I am now on day 151 today. The first 30 days were the worst, I was foggy and I was eating non-stop. Luckily I too stay healthy and was able to notice that fast. I still have a little residual fat that I didn't have pre QUIT but I like the "fluffiness" more than I do the stench of dip.
Use the fake shit as long as you have to. I still keep cans of it with me just in case. I like the idea of having the safer alternative at my fingertips rather than stopping at the closest store to get the real McCoy.
Drink lots of water, exercise a little bit harder too. This helps a ton, plus it helps with the anger management issues that will come up.
There are many retired military and current officers in here, you will notice them quick (insert smelling a cop reference here). Other than that you will learn quickly what KTC is all about and you will learn that people in general are here to help. Each with their own "special" way of doing so.
Now, post roll, promise to quit today and do that same drill every damned day as we all claim our lives back one day at a time.
Pinched
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Great decision to quit. I'm on day 43 of my quit after 23 years of chewing. Never thought I would quit, just decided out of the blue and luckily I found KTC when I decided. Because without it, I would not have made it this far. And I see all these thousands of people who are quit for years here. It Works!!!
My recommendation to you: stock up on seeds and gum, different flavors, chug water, post roll as soon as you wake up every morning (most important thing, your word is your bond), read the HOF speeches and Intro pages, get phone numbers from your quit group so you can text funny messages and gross pictures back and forth, and be a man and stay quit.
You can do it!!! Congratulations on quitting.
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Great choice to quit Sheriff. You have received some great advice already. The only things I will add is that you must own your quit; you must quit for selfish reasons. Do not quit for your wife and child; rather, quit b\c you want to grow old with your wife, and you want to see your daughter grow up. It is a small difference in the way you look at it, but chewing is a selfish addiction, and using selfish motivations is an easy switch. You also will not resent anyone for being quit if you are quit for yourself. The other thing I would suggest is to build up a healthy hatred for the poison and big tobacco. You will have some anger issues in the first part of your quit, and many of us have found it helpful to focus that rage where it is most constructive and most deserving: at the companies that push the most addictive drug known to man. Big tobacco is every bit as evil as the crack/heroin/meth pushers, but UST gets a free pass b\c nicotine is legal. Big tobacco gets to advertise unlike it's illegal pusher brothers, and it targets children to replace the costumers it kills every day. The poison weed they sell makes addicts out of those of us foolish enough to try it, and then they rob us of our money and health. That is where to focus your anger when you get a bad crave. PM me if you need anything.
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Greetings all, I hope this post ends up in the correct place. While I'm not exactly computer illiterate, posting on a website takes me out of my usual Email--Reply--Email ---Reply skill set.
Long time cop.....long time "chewer". Longest quit was when my daughter was born, nine years ago, and I took a whole month of family leave. Minute I got back to work I got into a vehicle pursuit right outta the barn, caught bad guy, lodged in jail, went directly to a Plaid Pantry and bought a can.....called it my "victory chew".
Screwed up and got myself elected Sheriff, and in this first year I noticed a couple of things. My budget went down, my blood pressure went up, and I was chewing a CAN A DAY!
I'm in good shape, work out, have a great life, loving family. What the hell am I doing trying to kill myself?
Then I stumbled onto this site. Spent two very late nights reading through the testimonials. It put voice to the fact that I was an addict much like so many of you (which is ironic since I've spent a career as a "dope cop", arresting crack-heroin-meth junkies). And that I needed support. But in the countryfied world that I live in, if you said you were going to a support group for "chewers" they would effectively pull your man card. But this, this site is something more.
I quit two days ago. Waited this long to post. This quit is killing me......the "fog", after meals, during meetings, driving in my patrol car.....I am using the fake stuff, and it helps, but I'm also lethargic, grumpy, and eating myself out of house and home.
Looking forward to having people to lean on......
Welcome Sheriff, great choice to quit. If you remain strong I promise it is a choice you will never regret. This site is definitely more than just a support group. We don't coddle, we don't condone addict excuses and addict babble. We don't try, we do. We support each other directly, with honesty and integrity. Those are things most nic addicts won't do on their own.
I was a 35+ year chewer of Cope, if I can be quit so can you and everyone who has the desire and cajones to make it happen.
Read everything you can, that is both a good distraction getting through the fog but also you will learn what nicotine addiction really is. The better you understand it, the easier it becomes to be quit. PM me if I can help you. Welcome aboard!
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Glad you found us. Yes, when you read testimonials one quickly realizes how much we all have in common. Addiction.
I am on day 1098. What works? This plan ---index.php?showforum=13 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13)
Read it all. Then post roll as it is explained. Welcome aboard.
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Man, I just hope you don't live in my county. If your temper flares up anything like mine did, you are going to be pulling people out of their cars, by their ears and beating on them...lol...
As you have seen, this is not some sissy, come and hold me, everything's gonna be alright forum. There are some bad ass military men, hunters, fishermen, firemen, cops, robbers, lawyers and at least one bad ass cyclist and a bunch of other cool people. We all have at least one thing in common and we have two rules. We also hold no punches.
I for one, know I wouldn't be quit without the guys on here. Live by this site, get involved, make some friends and help some people and you will be successful. I have dug deep into my gut, realized that I couldnÂ’t beat this thing alone, asked for help from a bunch of strangers, family members and my Angel of a wife and made a pretty good start at quitting this addiction.
In case you missed the rules:
1. Post roll each morning
2. Don't dip
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Don't worry about losing that man card around here because we know quitting takes more balls than any of those that would harass you have. As a older quitter and also not up on computer skills I'll say that posting everyday and getting active online will improve your computer skills greatly. This place is awesome!
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I smell a quittin man. Let's get it Sheriff.. I'm quit with ya.
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Long road trip tomorrow for a deputies graduation from the academy. Going to struggle without a dip on the road. And the celebratory beer later in the evening? Any advice. Between the fog and my mouth watering like I'm an old hound dog I'm afraid I'm going to cave.
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Long road trip tomorrow for a deputies graduation from the academy. Going to struggle without a dip on the road. And the celebratory beer later in the evening? Any advice. Between the fog and my mouth watering like I'm an old hound dog I'm afraid I'm going to cave.
Yes, I have advise. Look at rule number 2.
I also wouldn't have a drink this early into a quit.
Also check your "inbox". If you do everything in there and then text me and ask me if you can dip, I will give you the answer.
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Long road trip tomorrow for a deputies graduation from the academy. Going to struggle without a dip on the road. And the celebratory beer later in the evening? Any advice. Between the fog and my mouth watering like I'm an old hound dog I'm afraid I'm going to cave.
Come on Sheriff, man the fuck up. Do not tell me you are afraid you are going to cave! Stand up and say FUCK YOU TOBACCO I drive several times a day without a damned dip, you can too.
Eat sunflower seeds, use fake dip, take some bubble gum, cinnamon candies, eat anything that does not include tobacco or nicotine and will keep you quit. Don't tell me that a former narcotics officer and current Sheriff cannot be man enough to beat down a lowly weed.
Now show me what you got, you being the new sheriff in town and all!
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Sherif, I'm dragging your intro to the top because you think its ok to post what, once in the past 6 days? Are you still quit? If you are then have enough respect to the rest of us ;Ironman: to post roll with us every damn day. Whats up man, do you need a number? whats going on.
Winter Green
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I was done. made it to 200 and change. Stopped posting because I thought I was better than I am. Huge incident, Federal LEO sitting in the room with a fresh can, four days no sleep.....all the right excuses for me to jump back on board. I am fully prepared for the onslaught of any of you who I quit with this year....and I will own all of it. Amazing how that one dip folded into a can every two days for the last two weeks. What is amazing is that I feel like shit, tired, stomach issues. All the things that were great over the two hundred days prior to two weeks ago. Like and ASSHOLE I was basically forcing my body into accepting the addiction. As I sit here in my office, having just flushed the last can down the toilet in the Sheriff's Office, I know I need this site, I need the roll call. And I need it for more than 200 days. I am sorry to those of you who I quit with over this year for breaking my word. But I am thankful that you showed me that it can be done. And I will do it again and again if I have to until this shit is over. Be angry with me, as I am angry as hell at myself.
To my new group, the details aren't very sexy. Big city cop for too many years. Now small county Sheriff in Central Oregon. Two kids that I love, wife that I am devoted to, and a chew habit that spans almost three decades. Quit last December and made it for a good haul. I want this to be done badly.
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I was done. made it to 200 and change. Stopped posting because I thought I was better than I am. Huge incident, Federal LEO sitting in the room with a fresh can, four days no sleep.....all the right excuses for me to jump back on board. I am fully prepared for the onslaught of any of you who I quit with this year....and I will own all of it. Amazing how that one dip folded into a can every two days for the last two weeks. What is amazing is that I feel like shit, tired, stomach issues. All the things that were great over the two hundred days prior to two weeks ago. Like and ASSHOLE I was basically forcing my body into accepting the addiction. As I sit here in my office, having just flushed the last can down the toilet in the Sheriff's Office, I know I need this site, I need the roll call. And I need it for more than 200 days. I am sorry to those of you who I quit with over this year for breaking my word. But I am thankful that you showed me that it can be done. And I will do it again and again if I have to until this shit is over. Be angry with me, as I am angry as hell at myself.
To my new group, the details aren't very sexy. Big city cop for too many years. Now small county Sheriff in Central Oregon. Two kids that I love, wife that I am devoted to, and a chew habit that spans almost three decades. Quit last December and made it for a good haul. I want this to be done badly.
What happened?
Why did it happen?
What are you doing differently this time?
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Bump...
What a pile of shit intro this was.
Should have listened to some of the bad asses who reached out to you.
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Bump...
What a pile of shit intro this was.
Should have listened to some of the bad asses who reached out to you.
Honestly, I saw this failure coming. Call it a sixth sense.
Hopefully he can be serious this time.
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Post roll. Honor your word.
That is it. If you commit to posting roll the first minute after midnight that you are awake, and you are a man of your word... You can do this. You had some world class bad asses reach out to you in an attempt to get you to keep posting, and honor your word. Posting roll isn't something you do on Thursdays and Sundays only. It isn't something you do only on leap year. You don't take the day off for a root canal or a lobster dinner.
We post roll every damn day. We keep our word. Look bud... There were days in the beginning that I wanted to curl up in a corner and cry. The first few days were utter misery. But you know what... I gave my brothers (and sister) of April 2013 my word and by god I don't break my word.
Tough times never last. Tough people do.
What do you say? Do you want to quit?
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In your intro you wrote something about catching a bad guy then putting in a dip, something about tight budgets make it harder to quit, then something about failing being due to a lack of sleep and a federal LEO. Let me make this clear Sherrif. None of these are reasons why you dip or failed to stay quit. At best they are excuses. You failed because you are an addict. As an addict you can make up whatever excuses you want, and believe me your mind will come up with all kinds of reasons why you should dip again, but ultimately they are just excuses, you failed because you weren't in control. The foundation of my quit is my roll call, a promise I take seriously. Make that the bedrock of your return. Don't be half assed on your roll call and maybe you won't be half assed on your quit. Good luck.
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Sherriff, you got a "who's who" of some of the most badass quitters the KTC has to offer posting on your intro, the question is are you going to show up and show them what you have?
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...To my new group, the details aren't very sexy ...
You don't have a "new" group yet ... you still haven't bothered enough to post roll. That generates a "WTF?" from me. You owe the "new" group and your brothers from March the 3 answers. Actually, you owe all of us that.
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...To my new group, the details aren't very sexy ...
You don't have a "new" group yet ... you still haven't bothered enough to post roll. That generates a "WTF?" from me. You owe the "new" group and your brothers from March the 3 answers. Actually, you owe all of us that.
meh...some pretty weak sauce here. Nothing to see, move along.
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Sheriff - In your original 2013 intro, you talked about having your man card taken away if the LE community found you were getting support to stop dipping. Not sure if that is still an issue for you. You need to break free and stop caring about what others think and focus your energies on being quit for good, not just stopped for another brief 200 day interlude. Tell all you deputies you are quit and you will need their support. Tell the DA, the judges. The bigger a web of accountability you weave, the greater your chance of success. Do you think the Fed would've thrown that can on the table if he had known you were a committed 200 day quitter? Likely not. I'm guessing you're in your 40s, maybe early 50s. Dipping is not a life extension strategy and you have the potential for many good years left. Weave a very large web and be quit for good. And post roll EDD, even on day 201. If you get to the point where you're not posting, bad things happen. I'm sure you don't want to show up here a third time with your tail between your legs.
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Sheriff - In your original 2013 intro, you talked about having your man card taken away if the LE community found you were getting support to stop dipping. Not sure if that is still an issue for you. You need to break free and stop caring about what others think and focus your energies on being quit for good, not just stopped for another brief 200 day interlude. Tell all you deputies you are quit and you will need their support. Tell the DA, the judges. The bigger a web of accountability you weave, the greater your chance of success. Do you think the Fed would've thrown that can on the table if he had known you were a committed 200 day quitter? Likely not. I'm guessing you're in your 40s, maybe early 50s. Dipping is not a life extension strategy and you have the potential for many good years left. Weave a very large web and be quit for good. And post roll EDD, even on day 201. If you get to the point where you're not posting, bad things happen. I'm sure you don't want to show up here a third time with your tail between your legs.
Man card? You know what's fucking manly? Quitting. Keeping your word. Not making up pussy ass excuses to be weak.
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Sheriff - In your original 2013 intro, you talked about having your man card taken away if the LE community found you were getting support to stop dipping. Not sure if that is still an issue for you. You need to break free and stop caring about what others think and focus your energies on being quit for good, not just stopped for another brief 200 day interlude. Tell all you deputies you are quit and you will need their support. Tell the DA, the judges. The bigger a web of accountability you weave, the greater your chance of success. Do you think the Fed would've thrown that can on the table if he had known you were a committed 200 day quitter? Likely not. I'm guessing you're in your 40s, maybe early 50s. Dipping is not a life extension strategy and you have the potential for many good years left. Weave a very large web and be quit for good. And post roll EDD, even on day 201. If you get to the point where you're not posting, bad things happen. I'm sure you don't want to show up here a third time with your tail between your legs.
Man card? You know what's fucking manly? Quitting. Keeping your word. Not making up pussy ass excuses to be weak.
We've got other longtime badasses from the same neck of the woods as you. Dip-free and "man card" fully intact (whatever that is, anyway). Furthermore, why don't you show all of your buddies the support being tendered to you right now. I guarantee the fact that you caved after 200 days will make a far greater impression than a bunch of people from a website calling you out on the carpet.
Own your quit and post roll. Every damn day.
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This is very disappointing to see this. We had the exact same quit date. We entered the HOF on the same day. You should be posting a 238 today and instead are posting a day 1? If you are even posting... I am not interested in hearing bad excuses. Please don't post anything in the March 14 thread. I don't want 3 questions. That is where badasses ONLY are accepted. We have a solid group and damn good supporters and don't accept weakness.
Thanks
March 14' Ironmen
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This is very disappointing to see this. We had the exact same quit date. We entered the HOF on the same day. You should be posting a 238 today and instead are posting a day 1? If you are even posting... I am not interested in hearing bad excuses. Please don't post anything in the March 14 thread. I don't want 3 questions. That is where badasses ONLY are accepted. We have a solid group and damn good supporters and don't accept weakness.
Thanks
March 14' Ironmen
I agree entirely with Starr. Don't post any excuses in March. You walked away from us we had to accept that. That probably sounds angrier than it is. I'm disappointed, not pissed.
Learn from your mistakes. You caved because you hadn't made a promise to quit that day. Start over post roll every damn day, that's the only way this works.
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Sheriff,
Well since I was one of the first to reach out to you and offer support I took the time and read through everything in your intro today, checked on your posting percentage and damn man. I sure as fuck hope if you really quit this time that you actually get into the water in lieu of just dipping a damn toe in it. Any excuse you could give is all addict babble bullshit. As a lawman and a father you should be a role model, step the fuck up and do it this time. Life is going to happen and will continue no matter the circumstance. During my quit I have had several things happen that made me contemplate "just one, just for a minute" but the difference between you and I is that I didn't give into temptation.
Sure people are going to be hard on you but that is because all of us want the same outcome, you being quit. If you really want it this time, then answer these three questions and don't answer them for any of us, answer them for your own edification and understanding. You owe it to your old, group, your new group and all of your voluntary supporters. I stand beside you still as I want to see you quit, and in this battle against nicotine no one gets left behind.
1. What happened?
2. Why did it happen?
3. What are you going to do differently this time?
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POOF
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Anytime I've seen a guy over a hundred days cave...seems like they hadn't been posting roll.
It's so goddamn clear. Obvious.
We are herd animals us addicts. We have it stick together. The lion is out there man and she wants to eat your face. If you stop posting roll you are more likely to cave. If you cave you are more likely to die.
I don't want to post roll every day. I want to pretend I'm not an addict. I want to live like everyone else. But I'm not everyone else. I'm an addict. The only thing that stops me from running to that can is my promise that just for one day I won't use tobacco.
You stopped making that promise and she caught you. The lion has you.
Have you thought that the one single dip you took when you first caved may have been the one that caused the cancer to metastasize in your jaw? It may be growing there even now. Or it just might be the next one.
Quit. Get the fuck back in the herd and post roll. Give me your goddam Promise.
You were a March 14 Iron Man. You should have called one of us. I won't blast you. I don't have the heart for it today. I just want you quit before that bitch eats your face.
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Sheriff,
Well since I was one of the first to reach out to you and offer support I took the time and read through everything in your intro today, checked on your posting percentage and damn man. I sure as fuck hope if you really quit this time that you actually get into the water in lieu of just dipping a damn toe in it. Any excuse you could give is all addict babble bullshit. As a lawman and a father you should be a role model, step the fuck up and do it this time. Life is going to happen and will continue no matter the circumstance. During my quit I have had several things happen that made me contemplate "just one, just for a minute" but the difference between you and I is that I didn't give into temptation.
Sure people are going to be hard on you but that is because all of us want the same outcome, you being quit. If you really want it this time, then answer these three questions and don't answer them for any of us, answer them for your own edification and understanding. You owe it to your old, group, your new group and all of your voluntary supporters. I stand beside you still as I want to see you quit, and in this battle against nicotine no one gets left behind.
1. What happened?
2. Why did it happen?
3. What are you going to do differently this time?
Either you are pregnant or your not, all in or not, how ever you want to look at it. Quit using your head as a supository and keep the shit out of your pie hole. If you can't do that, move along.
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Sheriff,
Well since I was one of the first to reach out to you and offer support I took the time and read through everything in your intro today, checked on your posting percentage and damn man. I sure as fuck hope if you really quit this time that you actually get into the water in lieu of just dipping a damn toe in it. Any excuse you could give is all addict babble bullshit. As a lawman and a father you should be a role model, step the fuck up and do it this time. Life is going to happen and will continue no matter the circumstance. During my quit I have had several things happen that made me contemplate "just one, just for a minute" but the difference between you and I is that I didn't give into temptation.
Sure people are going to be hard on you but that is because all of us want the same outcome, you being quit. If you really want it this time, then answer these three questions and don't answer them for any of us, answer them for your own edification and understanding. You owe it to your old, group, your new group and all of your voluntary supporters. I stand beside you still as I want to see you quit, and in this battle against nicotine no one gets left behind.
1. What happened?
2. Why did it happen?
3. What are you going to do differently this time?
Either you are pregnant or your not, all in or not, how ever you want to look at it. Quit using your head as a supository and keep the shit out of your pie hole. If you can't do that, move along.
Two lines from your "welcome back" speech stand out:
1) "a fresh can, four days no sleep.....all the right excuses for me to jump back on board."
2) "And I will do it again and again if I have to until this shit is over."
Pretty much sounds like dipping is a pleasant little hobby for you. That there's always the "right excuse" to have a lipper and, when you're feeling a little guilty about yourself, you stop for a little while, and maybe even post roll a couple times a week until the next "right excuse" presents itself. Rinse, wash, repeat.
Give me a fucking break.
Answer the three questions, otherwise spare the rest of us the bullshit.
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Post roll. Honor your word.
That is it. If you commit to posting roll the first minute after midnight that you are awake, and you are a man of your word... You can do this. You had some world class bad asses reach out to you in an attempt to get you to keep posting, and honor your word. Posting roll isn't something you do on Thursdays and Sundays only. It isn't something you do only on leap year. You don't take the day off for a root canal or a lobster dinner.
We post roll every damn day. We keep our word. Look bud... There were days in the beginning that I wanted to curl up in a corner and cry. The first few days were utter misery. But you know what... I gave my brothers (and sister) of April 2013 my word and by god I don't break my word.
Tough times never last. Tough people do.
What do you say? Do you want to quit?
Hello Sheriff.
You were last on KTC last night around 11pm. How goes today's quit?
I cannot stress the importance of the formula I outlined for you enough. You have a lot of years of failure at quitting in your past. You have a chance to make it work this time. The ball is in your court. Post roll (EARLY). Keep your word.
Nothing else works. And you know it.
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Post roll. Honor your word.
That is it. If you commit to posting roll the first minute after midnight that you are awake, and you are a man of your word... You can do this. You had some world class bad asses reach out to you in an attempt to get you to keep posting, and honor your word. Posting roll isn't something you do on Thursdays and Sundays only. It isn't something you do only on leap year. You don't take the day off for a root canal or a lobster dinner.
We post roll every damn day. We keep our word. Look bud... There were days in the beginning that I wanted to curl up in a corner and cry. The first few days were utter misery. But you know what... I gave my brothers (and sister) of April 2013 my word and by god I don't break my word.
Tough times never last. Tough people do.
What do you say? Do you want to quit?
Hello Sheriff.
You were last on KTC last night around 11pm. How goes today's quit?
I cannot stress the importance of the formula I outlined for you enough. You have a lot of years of failure at quitting in your past. You have a chance to make it work this time. The ball is in your court. Post roll (EARLY). Keep your word.
Nothing else works. And you know it.
Are you really that unwilling to help yourself? You going to keep sticking that shit in your mouth until when? Till the tongue gets cut out of your head? Or you are breathing through a straw... or they take the bone saw out to remove the jawbone and leave you with no chin? For what? So you can suck on some poison laced weed that makes you gag on your own spit?
My question is this: If you don't quit today, then when?
For once be a man of your word, post roll and get this done. Fair warning though. this time better be for real. no more practice runs. Don't shit on another group of quitters. Expect to be given hell, and learn some humility and for the love of everything sacred - get some integrity. Without that you are wasting our time. your word better mean something- or else go away.
how many times you gonna play Russian roulette?
ferfucksake. Quit here. Cave somewhere else. your choice.