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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Tony S on September 18, 2013, 10:17:00 PM
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Hello all. Ive chewed Grizzly wintergreen for almost 9 years. I havent bought a can in a few weeks, but i have been slowly trying to ween myself off with nicotine lozenges. Today is my first nicotine free day in a long time and feeling proud, but aware that there is a LONG road ahead. Here's to another one tomorrow.
T.S.
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Welcome Tony! THe heavy hitters will be right along to explain how this all works far better than I can. But congrats on thinking about it already now going all the way without the lozenges or anything. Yes it's a long road ahead, but we do it one day at a time, that's all. All you have to do is post roll for today promise to remain quit for today. Tomorrow is a bright shiny new day that you'll get to make the same promise again, but don't have to worry about now. If you need numbers or anything just PM away.
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Hello all. Ive chewed Grizzly wintergreen for almost 9 years. I havent bought a can in a few weeks, but i have been slowly trying to ween myself off with nicotine lozenges. Today is my first nicotine free day in a long time and feeling proud, but aware that there is a LONG road ahead. Here's to another one tomorrow.
T.S.
Hi Tony,
Welcome to KTC. Congrats on your decision to live and not die a slow painful death. I would ditch the lozenges. Here is how they worked for me. A $15/week addiction turns into $40/week addiction. They say to only put one lozenge in and the next thing you know you have 4 of them in your cheek. I recommend you drink the KTC koolaid and toss all of those nicotine products. Post roll will us. Lean on us and the vets here. You can do this buddy. I know you can. You have to want it more than you have ever wanted anything. You can do this.
Post roll with us here.
DEC 13 Soldiers of Quit (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8706http://)
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Welocme sir. Great job going nic free today. Are you posting Roll?
Don't think of the road as long. In fact don't think of the road at all. Just worry about today. Then tomorrow, worry about today again.
You can only live your life one day at a time, do your quit the same way.
You got this. We are here to help. Use us!
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Here's to another one tomorrow.
This is how we do it here man... one day at a time. The best way to spend your time for awhile is immersing yourself in this site. Read everything, then go back and read some more. Get yourself up to the Welcome Center link at the top of the page and learn why and how we do things here. You've taken that first step into freedom bro... welcome!
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Tony that weening stuff is harder than cold turkey! Stop using nic and deal with the hellish first week once. If you have any nicotine in any form you will have to start all over, and you do not want that! The previous posts are from bad assed quitters and the advice is good. All the info and support you need is right here on KTC. Posting roll is the key welcome center will tell you how and why. PM me if you have questions.
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Tony,
Only worry about today. Tomorrow should never be in your mind. Today is the day you quit and quit like a Beast. Tomorrow you can follow the instructions on the back of the shampoo bottle, rinse-later-rinse-repeat.
The first week is damn hard, there is no sugar coating that it sucks which is why it is referred to as "The Suck", then as time progresses you will start to forget about Nic, then at around 2 months Nic will try to take you back. All you have to do is nut up and take your life back.
Pinched
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I'm not a veteran quitter, but I will be there if you need to text or talk about cravings etc. PM Sent.
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You still quit man? I sure as hell hope you made it through the night Tony!!! I am sending you a PM shortly so keep an eye on your Inbox(1)
Bill
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Good seeing you post up on Roll!
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Excellent decision to post roll for day 2 today. Welcome aboard quitter! You have made a life changing decision. You are gonna have to work for this but we are here with you today! You can do this! I am quit with you today!
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Thanks to all the support everyone, I'm on day 3 with no nicotine and feeling good about TODAY. Best thing I've learned: embrace the "withdrawal rage" and funnel into weight lifting. Been hitting personal records this week and its seems to be helping. If any of you need help/ want to chat PM me
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Thanks to all the support everyone, I'm on day 3 with no nicotine and feeling good about TODAY. Best thing I've learned: embrace the "withdrawal rage" and funnel into weight lifting. Been hitting personal records this week and its seems to be helping. If any of you need help/ want to chat XXX-XXX-XXXX.
That's what I did Tony, If you can take a breath you cant crave. I lost 20/LBS during my quit and got healthy. I am still working out almost everyday, and loving my new life. Congrats on day three one day at a time
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Hey man, I like your style, but it's a public forum. Lots of weirdos out there. I'd share phone number in PM.
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Tony welcome to KTC and brother you have hit the hard part. Now you just fight on through and stand strong here with us. If you need help reach out to your brothers. We have all went through the same stuff. You are doing it and you can do it. You are a real quitter.
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Thanks to all the support everyone, I'm on day 3 with no nicotine and feeling good about TODAY. Best thing I've learned: embrace the "withdrawal rage" and funnel into weight lifting. Been hitting personal records this week and its seems to be helping. If any of you need help/ want to chat PM me
Awesome work on making it 3 days!!
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You have proved day 1 was not a fluke by repeating it on day 2... There is no excuse to not stay quit day 3. Great job Tony! Keep KTC close and read some intro threads from the beginning to see what is in store for you in the next week or 2. No 2 quits are exactly the same, but there are a lot of common issues and stages in all our quits. It is helpful to have knowledge of what is coming. When you post day 4 tomorrow the poison should be out of your system!
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Hi y'all, I am not stranger to the site as I completed 100 days in the December 2013 class. When I returned to college in January '14, it wasn't long before I went out partying and figured I could have "1 dip" from a buddy. Figured I had learned how to "control it". I was wrong. Fast forward to today, and I am back to my old ways, knocking down a can every day or 2. Nicotine is not something I can control. If given any opportunity at all, it controls me. I know now that I will never be "cured", but will have to battle the addiction each day for all days.
Today is day 1 of me fighting back. What will be different this time? The experience of hitting 100 and failing has taught me that there is no mark to hit where you will suddenly be "all good". It is an every day battle and I'm walking back to the front line. I quit today!
8/13/2014-Quit Day
Tony S
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Hi y'all, I am not stranger to the site as I completed 100 days in the December 2013 class. When I returned to college in January '14, it wasn't long before I went out partying and figured I could have "1 dip" from a buddy. Figured I had learned how to "control it". I was wrong. Fast forward to today, and I am back to my old ways, knocking down a can every day or 2. Nicotine is not something I can control. If given any opportunity at all, it controls me. I know now that I will never be "cured", but will have to battle the addiction each day for all days.
Today is day 1 of me fighting back. What will be different this time? The experience of hitting 100 and failing has taught me that there is no mark to hit where you will suddenly be "all good". It is an every day battle and I'm walking back to the front line. I quit today!
8/13/2014-Quit Day
Tony S
Tony, I hope that the next few days totally sucks for you. I hate seeing people cave, crawl back and all because the tools that worked for them for 100 days or more were no longer utilized.
Don't get me wrong I am here to support you all the way but this time I want to make sure you remember every painful detail of the early quit. Also, that "buddy" you mentioned would not be a buddy of mine any longer if you had informed him of your quit prior to his assistance.
Do it this time!
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Hi y'all, I am not stranger to the site as I completed 100 days in the December 2013 class. When I returned to college in January '14, it wasn't long before I went out partying and figured I could have "1 dip" from a buddy. Figured I had learned how to "control it". I was wrong. Fast forward to today, and I am back to my old ways, knocking down a can every day or 2. Nicotine is not something I can control. If given any opportunity at all, it controls me. I know now that I will never be "cured", but will have to battle the addiction each day for all days.
Today is day 1 of me fighting back. What will be different this time? The experience of hitting 100 and failing has taught me that there is no mark to hit where you will suddenly be "all good". It is an every day battle and I'm walking back to the front line. I quit today!
8/13/2014-Quit Day
Tony S
'Finger'
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Hi y'all, I am not stranger to the site as I completed 100 days in the December 2013 class. When I returned to college in January '14, it wasn't long before I went out partying and figured I could have "1 dip" from a buddy. Figured I had learned how to "control it". I was wrong. Fast forward to today, and I am back to my old ways, knocking down a can every day or 2. Nicotine is not something I can control. If given any opportunity at all, it controls me. I know now that I will never be "cured", but will have to battle the addiction each day for all days.
Today is day 1 of me fighting back. What will be different this time? The experience of hitting 100 and failing has taught me that there is no mark to hit where you will suddenly be "all good". It is an every day battle and I'm walking back to the front line. I quit today!
8/13/2014-Quit Day
Tony S
'Finger'
looks like both tony s and otter are both on this thread. You both need to answer the three questions now!
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Hi y'all, I am not stranger to the site as I completed 100 days in the December 2013 class. When I returned to college in January '14, it wasn't long before I went out partying and figured I could have "1 dip" from a buddy. Figured I had learned how to "control it". I was wrong. Fast forward to today, and I am back to my old ways, knocking down a can every day or 2. Nicotine is not something I can control. If given any opportunity at all, it controls me. I know now that I will never be "cured", but will have to battle the addiction each day for all days.
Today is day 1 of me fighting back. What will be different this time? The experience of hitting 100 and failing has taught me that there is no mark to hit where you will suddenly be "all good". It is an every day battle and I'm walking back to the front line. I quit today!
8/13/2014-Quit Day
Tony S
'Finger'
looks like both tony s and otter are both on this thread. You both need to answer the three questions now!
and Tony you don't get two intros. I would think if you were here 100 days you' d know this.
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The three questions, which you need to share with December 2013 and November 2014:
- 1 - What happened?
- 2 - Why did it happen?
- 3 - What are you going to do differently?
Don't answer these because I want to know, answer them because you need to be accountable and come clean and quit lying to yourself.
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The three questions, which you need to share with December 2013 and November 2014:
- 1 - What happened?
- 2 - Why did it happen?
- 3 - What are you going to do differently?
Don't answer these because I want to know, answer them because you need to be accountable and come clean and quit lying to yourself.
I think you covered the first 2 questions but after reaching HOF and caving so soon there are some obvious things to do different. With only 98 posts I assume your level of activity wasn't very high. I'm with Pinched I hope this really sucks for you, maybe you'll remember this time.
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The three questions, which you need to share with December 2013 and November 2014:
- 1 - What happened?
- 2 - Why did it happen?
- 3 - What are you going to do differently?
Don't answer these because I want to know, answer them because you need to be accountable and come clean and quit lying to yourself.
Tony I looked back at your posts and found two things.
One, you were great at posting roll every day...until you weren't. When you post roll you are accountable to everyone on this site. When you don't you are accountable to just yourself (an addict making a promise to an addict). 100 days doesn't mean anything in terms of posting roll
Two, you had zero other contributions to the site. This site is filled with many ex cavers, and the one thing they have in common is when they come back in they do it with a vengeance, staying quit and helping everyone else along the way.
If you come back, don't do it in the half assed way you did it before.
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Tony S,
Your lack of maturity in regards to quitting is beyond disappointing... It makes me livid! You've come too far to slip up over some peer pressure. I don't blame your friends but I blame you. I'm not convinced that you REALLY want this quit. How can we trust you now? What's your plan of attack? Will you reach out more to the vets?
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I agree with the responses. Particularly the last few. Here is my 3 questions which will also be posted in Dec '13 and Nov '14.
- 1 - What happened? Caved. Stopped Posting Roll. Disappeared.
- 2 - Why did it happen? I believed that by going 100 days without nicotine I had "beaten" my addiction to nicotine. I also was a poor brother to my fellow quitters. I behaved selfishly by simply posting roll and not doing my part to help support my fellow quitters. Failing to commit to my quit brethren as well as my own quit contributed to me being unable to sustain my quit.
- 3 - What are you going to do differently? Treat my quit as ODAAT, indefinitely. I know that the addiction will always exist in me, and I must always fight it one day at a time. It never ends. More importantly than that, is the commitment to contribute to the quits of others. My selfish "post roll and bail" approach did not help improve the lives of anyone else.
I know I have been selfish, weak, and that I deserve nothing. However, I ask the KTC Brotherhood to let me rejoin and post roll again. Let me prove I am a QUITTER and can be an asset to other quitters.
Thanks,
Tony
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Another one bites the dust at 100. Tony, sounds like you didn't spend much time here your first 100 days. It is painfully obvious that the number 100 means slightly more than a hill of beans. Granted it is a fantastic milestone. I never went 100 days without dip the whole 23 yrs I was a user. My record was 6 days.
Famous saying here at KTC, cavers are going to cave, quitters are going to quit. Would love to see you in the latter part of that phrase. Get involved stay active and keep quit the priority for you day and you'll succeed.
Maybe posting with some lonely vets will show you a glimpse of how good quit can be. Feel free to drop by December 2010, the GUARD and we'll cook ya some breakfast!
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It is unfathomable to me that you could spend 100 days here and think that you were cured. That fact alone convinces me that you put zero effort into learning the most basic points about quit. You dont put in enough effort in college? Guess what- you fail. You dont put enough effort into quit? Guess what- you fail.
Pull your head out of your ass, put some effort into your quit. Ferfucksake we dont wander in here after decades of using because we could quit alone!
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Day 2. Thankful to all the vets who got on my ass extra hard yesterday. The brotherhood of KTC is something special. Any quitters who read this understand....ODAAT! Do not let down the group like i did. If you make people care about your quit and let them, its a terrible feeling. Not worth it!
Proud to be quit with all of KTC...esp. Nov 14, Dec 13, Dec 10, Dec 09
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Day 2. Thankful to all the vets who got on my ass extra hard yesterday. The brotherhood of KTC is something special. Any quitters who read this understand....ODAAT! Do not let down the group like i did. If you make people care about your quit and let them, its a terrible feeling. Not worth it!
Proud to be quit with all of KTC...esp. Nov 14, Dec 13, Dec 10, Dec 09
If you are a man of your word, you don't fail of you post.
The only people, THE ONLY PEOPLE, that fail post HOF are those that stop posting.
I'm a pretty simple guy. Not the sharpest tool in the shed by a long shot... But I continue to not understand why anyone, particularly the super smart younger guys than me on ktc... Would ever stop posting.
It takes seconds a day. Seconds.
Post roll. Honor your word.
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Tony - I see that you are now quit 4 days. I truly hope that the past 3 days have been hell on earth for you. I hope the wires in your brain have you craving like fuck! Was it worth it? I am also very happy to see that you made it past the three days and you are quit. Never forget day 1!
-Ron
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See ya in the morning. And what he ^^^^^ said
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You still hanging strong
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Made it to one week boys. I am chewing a lot of Smokey Mountain, which makes me feel guilty but there's no nic and no tobacco so its a hell of a lot better than the real shit. Worst symptom? By far the hit my concentration is taking. I can hardly accomplish anything at work. But you know what I can accomplish? Completing today without any Nic. Thanks for the support boys.
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Made it to one week boys. I am chewing a lot of Smokey Mountain, which makes me feel guilty but there's no nic and no tobacco so its a hell of a lot better than the real shit. Worst symptom? By far the hit my concentration is taking. I can hardly accomplish anything at work. But you know what I can accomplish? Completing today without any Nic. Thanks for the support boys.
Hang in there Tony. You're doing the right things, saying the right things, and have the right attitude.
Chew the hell out of that Smokey Mountin - it's an amazing tool that should be utilized.
The fog will lift - http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures ... tting-dip/ (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/the-fog-of-quitting-dip/)
Keep on quitting my man!
chewie
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Made it to one week boys. I am chewing a lot of Smokey Mountain, which makes me feel guilty but there's no nic and no tobacco so its a hell of a lot better than the real shit. Worst symptom? By far the hit my concentration is taking. I can hardly accomplish anything at work. But you know what I can accomplish? Completing today without any Nic. Thanks for the support boys.
Hang in there Tony. You're doing the right things, saying the right things, and have the right attitude.
Chew the hell out of that Smokey Mountin - it's an amazing tool that should be utilized.
The fog will lift - http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures ... tting-dip/ (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/the-fog-of-quitting-dip/)
Keep on quitting my man!
chewie
Welcome Dude (again), chew catshit, dogshit, birdshit, whatever it takes to not put the poison in your mouth. While you're doing this, read. Seriously read and keep reading. The material here is more important than textbooks at college. College ain't gonna help you when your jaw is surgically removed.
Wrap your brain around the facts on the poison you are addicted to. Learn all you can, because it knows you through and through. Learn how to "re-wire" with the KTC koolaid. Take what you need here, give when and what you can. Stick around and your quit will stick. Make up your mind when you go to sleep. Make up your mind when you wake. Don't dip, do something else. Anything else that is not self destructive. ODAAT and NAFAR, period
When you're going through hell, keep going!
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Made it to one week boys. I am chewing a lot of Smokey Mountain, which makes me feel guilty but there's no nic and no tobacco so its a hell of a lot better than the real shit. Worst symptom? By far the hit my concentration is taking. I can hardly accomplish anything at work. But you know what I can accomplish? Completing today without any Nic. Thanks for the support boys.
Hang in there Tony. You're doing the right things, saying the right things, and have the right attitude.
Chew the hell out of that Smokey Mountin - it's an amazing tool that should be utilized.
The fog will lift - http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures ... tting-dip/ (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/the-fog-of-quitting-dip/)
Keep on quitting my man!
chewie
Tony, well bud glad to see you are hanging in there. I am even happier that it is not going easy for you. Remember once you were past all this, now you are right back in it. You know the path, stay on it this time and keep on using your intro and posting roll. As you know that works when done correctly.
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Made it to one week boys. I am chewing a lot of Smokey Mountain, which makes me feel guilty but there's no nic and no tobacco so its a hell of a lot better than the real shit. Worst symptom? By far the hit my concentration is taking. I can hardly accomplish anything at work. But you know what I can accomplish? Completing today without any Nic. Thanks for the support boys.
Hang in there Tony. You're doing the right things, saying the right things, and have the right attitude.
Chew the hell out of that Smokey Mountin - it's an amazing tool that should be utilized.
The fog will lift - http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures ... tting-dip/ (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/the-fog-of-quitting-dip/)
Keep on quitting my man!
chewie
Tony, well bud glad to see you are hanging in there. I am even happier that it is not going easy for you. Remember once you were past all this, now you are right back in it. You know the path, stay on it this time and keep on using your intro and posting roll. As you know that works when done correctly.
I guess it goes without saying Tony...You don't want to go through this again. So make it count. I'm quit with you today.
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Hi y'all, I am not stranger to the site as I completed 100 days in the December 2013 class. When I returned to college in January '14, it wasn't long before I went out partying and figured I could have "1 dip" from a buddy. Figured I had learned how to "control it". I was wrong. Fast forward to today, and I am back to my old ways, knocking down a can every day or 2. Nicotine is not something I can control. If given any opportunity at all, it controls me. I know now that I will never be "cured", but will have to battle the addiction each day for all days.
Today is day 1 of me fighting back. What will be different this time? The experience of hitting 100 and failing has taught me that there is no mark to hit where you will suddenly be "all good". It is an every day battle and I'm walking back to the front line. I quit today!
8/13/2014-Quit Day
Tony S
Bump. 100 days is coming up, you need to reread what happened last time. Dont forget this shit. I expect to see you more engaged throughout this time thru your HOF. Be active here, not just roll posts. Check your PM.
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Hi y'all, I am not stranger to the site as I completed 100 days in the December 2013 class. When I returned to college in January '14, it wasn't long before I went out partying and figured I could have "1 dip" from a buddy. Figured I had learned how to "control it". I was wrong. Fast forward to today, and I am back to my old ways, knocking down a can every day or 2. Nicotine is not something I can control. If given any opportunity at all, it controls me. I know now that I will never be "cured", but will have to battle the addiction each day for all days.
Today is day 1 of me fighting back. What will be different this time? The experience of hitting 100 and failing has taught me that there is no mark to hit where you will suddenly be "all good". It is an every day battle and I'm walking back to the front line. I quit today!
8/13/2014-Quit Day
Tony S
Bump. 100 days is coming up, you need to reread what happened last time. Dont forget this shit. I expect to see you more engaged throughout this time thru your HOF. Be active here, not just roll posts. Check your PM.
Thanks Schaef, this is a great reminder. No quit is untouchable unless you make it that way every single day, ODAAT.
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Looks like this Intro is a little dusty. Well, today is damn fine day to dust off this intro and give TonyS a big huge KTC Comma Congrats. Damn fine job Brotha Tony. Super proud of ya. That Comma is about as fine an accomplishment as a person can earn. And earn is the right word. Can't buy it. Can't inherit it. Can't steal it. You earn it by investing in your Quit each and every day. Minute by minute. Hope you get to celebrate this accomplishment. You've earned it. Proud to be Quit with you Tony.
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You arent cured, but you have earned your comma. That didnt happen by accident or mistake. It happened one day at a time. I remember you from December 13. Im very proud of your success and perseverance. T,onyS B)B
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Dubyas, thanks for the support. 1000 seems like a long time but it goes by really fast when you take things 1 day at a time. Its amazing what a little accountability can do for ya. Thanks to all of KTC and here's to 1000 more!
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Congrats Tony! Enjoy your comma days and see ya tomorrow. There is no cure for any of us addicts!!!