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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Dexter1225 on September 23, 2013, 10:16:00 AM
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Hello everyone,
New member but not new to the site. I have visited a few times in the past when I have "quit" (I say "quit" because I have always caved and never been "successful").
I haven't been using that long (about 4-5 years, on and off), but I'm excited to get rid of it once and for all, get back to feeling like the old me, get more things done, feel more in-tune with everything around me and less cathartic.
I tossed the can after my drive to work this morning. Now it's all up to me to prove if I'm man enough.
I also wanted to thank everyone out there for this resource - there is a lot of good reading to prepare and know what to expect. And thank you everyone for your future support! lol
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Good morning Dex. Congratulations and welcome to KTC. First and foremost, you will need to post Roll. Roll is your daily promise to yourself and all of your new brothers and sisters that you will not use tobacco in any form that day. You will post your name and the number of days you are quit each day in the December 2013 quit group. Each and every day you will post your promise. No exceptions. That is the price of admission to KTC. Nothing more and nothing less. The reason you are put in December is that will be the month if you join us today that you will celebrate being 100 days free of nicotineÂ…your Hall of Fame date. Today, you will post Day 1.
Now that you know the basics, it is time to read all you can on this site. Go to the welcome center and that will get you started. PM me if you need any additional information or if I can answer any questions you have. Again, congratulations on the best decision you will ever make. Wayne
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wmcatty - thanks for your help. I believe I just posted role correctly and now I'm accountable.
I hate these first 3 days but I appreciate all the help everyone has to offer.
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wmcatty - thanks for your help. I believe I just posted role correctly and now I'm accountable.
I hate these first 3 days but I appreciate all the help everyone has to offer.
Outstanding decision to quit today! Way to post roll and be accountable today. Don't worry about the first 3 days.... focus on this day - the day before you. That is the only way to do this.
You can only control what you do in the moment and for this day and this moment --- you will not dip. You will not go to the store to buy a can. You will not put that garbage in your lip.
Today you are quit bro! You can do this. Quit with you today!
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Thanks, derk! I was just going to come on and say that it hasn't even been 3 hours yet and it's a fight but I appreciate your comment!
I quit you, nicb!tch, f*ck you.
I'm just going to get angrier as the day goes on lol
Thanks again!
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Thanks, derk! I was just going to come on and say that it hasn't even been 3 hours yet and it's a fight but I appreciate your comment!
I quit you, nicb!tch, f*ck you.
I'm just going to get angrier as the day goes on lol
Thanks again!
Do or Do Not....There is No Try!
Read, read, change your thinking, change your life, Post Roll, get with the fucking program and stay with it...Then you can "be quit" ODAAT.
It will be the hardest thing you've ever done in your short life. But it will pay off for the rest of your life.
All you gotta do is quit for today....just today.
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Thanks, derk! I was just going to come on and say that it hasn't even been 3 hours yet and it's a fight but I appreciate your comment!Â
I quit you, nicb!tch, f*ck you.Â
I'm just going to get angrier as the day goes on lol
Thanks again!
Do or Do Not....There is No Try!
Read, read, change your thinking, change your life, Post Roll, get with the fucking program and stay with it...Then you can "be quit" ODAAT.
It will be the hardest thing you've ever done in your short life. But it will pay off for the rest of your life.
All you gotta do is quit for today....just today.
^^^^^ What he said x2. You have to change your whole way of thinking. Why? Because past failures have proved you've been doing it wrong. Get your head right, and make this THE MOST IMPORTANT THING in your life right now. It has to be that way.
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Welcome Dexter all the best, looks like you've already got great advice starting out from the veterans here!
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Glad you're here dude.
Be strong... Be involved...
Take a stand and never back down again. Be how you were meant to be ~ free. You need another number, someone to bug you and keep you on track... pm me. Rock on...
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I caved again this morning... I guess the bright side is that through this entire week, even though I've caved every day, it has been substantially less use than I'm used to...
I've had a few of you members reach out to me with your support and I thank everyone for their support. I ordered some of that Jake's mint chew and it will be here tomorrow.
I need to reach out more, I realize that. The problem with that is I've always kept this habit very private and hidden from everyone - even from my long-term girlfriend. She caught me over the weekend (and that didn't go well) which started this LAST QUIT. I don't even feel comfortable enough yet to approach her every time I cave.
I'm ashamed and mad at myself. Every time I've caved this week, I get even more mad at myself. I personally feel like I'm getting there - but that's just an addict talking. I'm hoping this first day is the hardest...
Does anyone have any tips beside this mint chew stuff (I've used cough drops, gum, sunflower seeds in the past and I'm using them again)? Has anyone tried the Nicorette junk?
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I caved again this morning... I guess the bright side is that through this entire week, even though I've caved every day, it has been substantially less use than I'm used to...
I've had a few of you members reach out to me with your support and I thank everyone for their support. I ordered some of that Jake's mint chew and it will be here tomorrow.Â
I need to reach out more, I realize that. The problem with that is I've always kept this habit very private and hidden from everyone - even from my long-term girlfriend. She caught me over the weekend (and that didn't go well) which started this LAST QUIT. I don't even feel comfortable enough yet to approach her every time I cave.
I'm ashamed and mad at myself. Every time I've caved this week, I get even more mad at myself. I personally feel like I'm getting there - but that's just an addict talking. I'm hoping this first day is the hardest...
Does anyone have any tips beside this mint chew stuff (I've used cough drops, gum, sunflower seeds in the past and I'm using them again)? Has anyone tried the Nicorette junk?
"Nothing ever changes until the pain of remaining the same is greater than the pain of changing." --Im not sure who authored that, but give it some thought.
Have you tried reaching out to anyone here before you bought more dip/chew? Maybe send one of us a text and say, "Hey, I am on my way to buy some dip. I am going to put it in my mouth and start back dipping." You could certainly text me that. I'd be happy to help talk you through not buying it and to hang on.
You say being a ninja dipper makes it harder. I am not convinced. I havent had to be a ninja dipper since I was in my teens. Girl friends, wife, family...I didnt give a rat's rearend what anybody said and I wasnt going to "sneak" around and hide it. I did what I wanted to do. I did what I wanted to whenever I wanted to do it. I became very used to that because I kept that crap in my mouth unless I was eating, sleeping, or in Court. That is the addict part of my thinking to say how tuff it is for me. It is the addict part of your thinking telling you that it is much harder for a ninja dipper to quit. The bottom line is that it is hard to break this addiction and you have to choose not to cave in.
Thank you for your honesty and being straight forward. I respect that. Don't give up, don't give in. PM me for my cell if you want to talk via texts.
J
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I caved again this morning... I guess the bright side is that through this entire week, even though I've caved every day, it has been substantially less use than I'm used to...
I've had a few of you members reach out to me with your support and I thank everyone for their support. I ordered some of that Jake's mint chew and it will be here tomorrow.
I need to reach out more, I realize that. The problem with that is I've always kept this habit very private and hidden from everyone - even from my long-term girlfriend. She caught me over the weekend (and that didn't go well) which started this LAST QUIT. I don't even feel comfortable enough yet to approach her every time I cave.
I'm ashamed and mad at myself. Every time I've caved this week, I get even more mad at myself. I personally feel like I'm getting there - but that's just an addict talking. I'm hoping this first day is the hardest...
Does anyone have any tips beside this mint chew stuff (I've used cough drops, gum, sunflower seeds in the past and I'm using them again)? Has anyone tried the Nicorette junk?
you do realize that by caving everyday, you aren't quitting right. You are just prolonging the amount of time in between your uses. In fact, I seriously doubt that you are buying a brand new can everytime you cave.
I was a ninja dipper forever. My wife never knew about it. She caught me several times in our relationship. The last time she threatened to take my son and leave me.
The thing that works best about this site is that you realize that your story isn't special. You are not special. There are people on here who did the same thing as you. Told the same lies as you, and are going through the same thing as you.
About your gf, maybe you should talk to her before you cave. See if maybe you two could find some activity to do to take your mind off it. 'winker'
Use us, you will be grateful for the help that people can give you, but more importantly use her, it will make your relationship a thousand times stronger, and if you come to her with the truth, she may actually start trusting you again.
The other thing is no Nicorette, this is a nicotine free site. Using nicorette only keeps that bitch in your blood and mind until you start using again. There isn't a replacement product on the market that will satisfy your craving for nicotine. You've got to want to quit, and from reading your post below I'm not sure that you really want to.
There is no try on this site. There is only do or not do. Caving everyday is an example of not do. Nicotine has no way of getting into your lip unless you put it there.
As of now you are just wasting our time. You should take a step back and see what you really want to do.
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Dexter I saw you post roll this morning and shot over to see your introduction. I am 2 days in to my quit and it is a lot of feelings both physically and emotionally but easy isn't one of them!
You discussed your long time girl friend catching you and that being a good reason for your quit. I've dipped in front of girl friends I've had, i've also been a ninja dipper. I've also been an open, "she knows I dip I just don't do it in front of her dipper". When it comes to quitting not 1 of the 3 scenerios makes it any easier then the other. I've tried and failed before, but what makes this different is i'm not quitting to make anyone happy, or because I got busted or was in trouble. I'm quitting because I don't want to spend money to kill myself.
I was a 1 can a day for 10 years, not off and on but guess what? I was off and on for the first few years, then a little more on and a little less off and before you knew it I was lying to loved ones and had became a full blown nic addict and couldn't take a shit without a dip in. (PS I still haven't taken a shit).
Reach out to me before you buy another can. Take a step back and think... who am I really quitting for? What motivates me to quit? Who can I talk to about quitting?
I'm still trying to answer some of those questions myself but making ourselves accountable for everyday will be the route of our success.
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I myself have stopped chewing so many times I had lost count. I have tried the gum, patches, and the mint. They all help for a bit but from my experiences they did not help in the long term. ItÂ’s just a trade of one habit for another.
One thing I would suggest you do is not hide it. Tell the people that care about you what you are doing. Have them support you as well as posting here. My family and friends are all supportive of me and it has helped a great deal. Currently on day 7 of my Quit.
Start again now! Throw that can you just bought out!! I will Quit With you.
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I caved again this morning... I guess the bright side is that through this entire week, even though I've caved every day, it has been substantially less use than I'm used to...
I've had a few of you members reach out to me with your support and I thank everyone for their support. I ordered some of that Jake's mint chew and it will be here tomorrow.
I need to reach out more, I realize that. The problem with that is I've always kept this habit very private and hidden from everyone - even from my long-term girlfriend. She caught me over the weekend (and that didn't go well) which started this LAST QUIT. I don't even feel comfortable enough yet to approach her every time I cave.
I'm ashamed and mad at myself. Every time I've caved this week, I get even more mad at myself. I personally feel like I'm getting there - but that's just an addict talking. I'm hoping this first day is the hardest...
Does anyone have any tips beside this mint chew stuff (I've used cough drops, gum, sunflower seeds in the past and I'm using them again)? Has anyone tried the Nicorette junk?
Dexter, man up and get it together. Look below, there are people in your quit group fighting through this and winning. They are reaching out to you.
You are asking if it is easier with nic replacement crap. WTF.. of course it is easier because with that crap you aren't quit. The best replacement stuff is the fake chew with some added nicotine. That would make it really easy. You see how silly that is?
Now, you are no less of a man than any of us on here. We aren't professionals, we aren't Kobe Bryant with some insane natural gift. No, we are just folks who stepped up and took the beating that comes as a result of our poor choices.
You can too. So do it... Toss the can. Stay on this site, text or call others (PM me and I will give you my number) take today's misery like a man and feel the pride that comes with beating the nic-bitch down for an entire day. Then wake up and do it again.
It is time to take a stand or come back when you are truly ready to quit.
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I caved again this morning... I guess the bright side is that through this entire week, even though I've caved every day, it has been substantially less use than I'm used to...
I've had a few of you members reach out to me with your support and I thank everyone for their support. I ordered some of that Jake's mint chew and it will be here tomorrow.Â
I need to reach out more, I realize that. The problem with that is I've always kept this habit very private and hidden from everyone - even from my long-term girlfriend. She caught me over the weekend (and that didn't go well) which started this LAST QUIT. I don't even feel comfortable enough yet to approach her every time I cave.
I'm ashamed and mad at myself. Every time I've caved this week, I get even more mad at myself. I personally feel like I'm getting there - but that's just an addict talking. I'm hoping this first day is the hardest...
Does anyone have any tips beside this mint chew stuff (I've used cough drops, gum, sunflower seeds in the past and I'm using them again)? Has anyone tried the Nicorette junk?
Dexter, man up and get it together. Look below, there are people in your quit group fighting through this and winning. They are reaching out to you.
You are asking if it is easier with nic replacement crap. WTF.. of course it is easier because with that crap you aren't quit. The best replacement stuff is the fake chew with some added nicotine. That would make it really easy. You see how silly that is?
Now, you are no less of a man than any of us on here. We aren't professionals, we aren't Kobe Bryant with some insane natural gift. No, we are just folks who stepped up and took the beating that comes as a result of our poor choices.
You can too. So do it... Toss the can. Stay on this site, text or call others (PM me and I will give you my number) take today's misery like a man and feel the pride that comes with beating the nic-bitch down for an entire day. Then wake up and do it again.
It is time to take a stand or come back when you are truly ready to quit.
I have a tip for ya!
Fuck off and go to a different site where they coddle your little balls for you.
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I hate these first 3 days
You must love it if you want to do it again and again...
I caved again this morning
Looks like you only made it one or two days,, what you going to do different? Obviously your being owned right now. You have to rrrrreeeeeallly want this! We can tell you it's worth it and things get better, but the thing is you have to stay quit, which takes a lot of determination (maybe you don't have this and need to acquire it) and drive...
The problem with that is I've always kept this habit very private and hidden from everyone
This is not a habbit,,, your are addicted to one of the most addictive drugs known to man. Stop trying it your way,,, use KTC method,, it's proven. 16,0000 have used this site to quit,, what makes you different??
My recommendation would be this my friend. Start diving in to this site. Read, read and read. Learn this enemy, and stop loving it. The poison does not play,, it will take until there is nothing left. It's a filthy disgusting can of dirt that's leading you around. It will take your tongue, jaw, throat and even life. You need to start owning this quit!! Learning this enemy is half the battle. Learn why it's hard to defeat this foe. I can't quit for you, neither can anyone else. How about you quit for yourself,, take it to the next level.
My last thought.....
Has anyone tried the Nicorette junk?
Really???? Let me change your quote. Nicorette and any other form of the poison is for slave driven idiots!!
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You guys are all right - this is up to me, I'm not trying to pass blame, it's up to me to stay quit.
I don't want to try the nicorrette sh!t but I was curious what everyone thought, I appreciate all your thoughts lol
I am still quit from my cave this morning and just going to power through lunch and keep quit. I really do appreciate the tough love, really. It's exactly what I need.
I'm going to use this thread to post my updates and post roll tomorrow. I WILL beat this bitch today!
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You guys are all right - this is up to me, I'm not trying to pass blame, it's up to me to stay quit.
I don't want to try the nicorrette sh!t but I was curious what everyone thought, I appreciate all your thoughts lol
I am still quit from my cave this morning and just going to power through lunch and keep quit. I really do appreciate the tough love, really. It's exactly what I need.
I'm going to use this thread to post my updates and post roll tomorrow. I WILL beat this bitch today!
You have to commit to your quit. You have to close the door in your mind, turn around and walk the fuck away and NEVER look back. Don't go into this thinking "maybe" or any sort of half-assed wishy washy thoughts. Otherwise you will cave and you will cave quick. Flush any and every bit of nicotine you have down the toilet and make a SOLID commitment in your mind that you will never even peep back into that door. If you leave even the merest hint of a possibility open in your mind, you will drive yourself insane thinking about caving...and then cave. This takes balls...you have them, use them.
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I am trying to figure out what is going on here. Maybe I am off base, but I am lost. Did you post roll in the December group the other day? I believe you did... if so, then you need to answer the 3 questions and explain what will be different this time. You need to answer to December January... but really this is for you. it is the price of admission back after quitting caving.
You don't get to just sign up here, post roll, cave, and then just stroll in here with an "oh well, I caved this morning... guess i will post a new day 1."
That is not how it works. We all have a little more pride in our quit than that.
Sounds like you don't want to quit. Nicorette gum? Have you read anything about this site. Cold turkey! We don't do nicorette gum in these parts. Anything with nicotine is not an option. Dump it and quit, or go get your head right come back when you are ready. As stated, you got to want this. Flip floppin around is a waste of everyone's time.
Here are the 3 questions you need to answer when you are ready to quit.
What happened?
Why did it happen?
What are you going to do different this time
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I am trying to figure out what is going on here. Maybe I am off base, but I am lost. Did you post roll in the December group the other day? I believe you did... if so, then you need to answer the 3 questions and explain what will be different this time. You need to answer to December January... but really this is for you. it is the price of admission back after quitting caving.
You don't get to just sign up here, post roll, cave, and then just stroll in here with an "oh well, I caved this morning... guess i will post a new day 1."Â
That is not how it works. We all have a little more pride in our quit than that.Â
Sounds like you don't want to quit. Nicorette gum? Have you read anything about this site. Cold turkey! We don't do nicorette gum in these parts. Anything with nicotine is not an option. Dump it and quit, or go get your head right come back when you are ready. As stated, you got to want this. Flip floppin around is a waste of everyone's time.
Here are the 3 questions you need to answer when you are ready to quit.Â
What happened?
Why did it happen?
What are you going to do different this time
Saw you posted a day 2 today in Jan. You posted day 1 on Monday in Dec and caved.
You owe an answer to the 3 questions. Caving is a big deal after you made your commitment to us.
What happened?
Why did it happen?
What are you going to do different this time?
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I am trying to figure out what is going on here. Maybe I am off base, but I am lost. Did you post roll in the December group the other day? I believe you did... if so, then you need to answer the 3 questions and explain what will be different this time. You need to answer to December January... but really this is for you. it is the price of admission back after quitting caving.
You don't get to just sign up here, post roll, cave, and then just stroll in here with an "oh well, I caved this morning... guess i will post a new day 1."Â
That is not how it works. We all have a little more pride in our quit than that.Â
Sounds like you don't want to quit. Nicorette gum? Have you read anything about this site. Cold turkey! We don't do nicorette gum in these parts. Anything with nicotine is not an option. Dump it and quit, or go get your head right come back when you are ready. As stated, you got to want this. Flip floppin around is a waste of everyone's time.
Here are the 3 questions you need to answer when you are ready to quit.Â
What happened?
Why did it happen?
What are you going to do different this time
Saw you posted a day 2 today in Jan. You posted day 1 on Monday in Dec and caved.
You owe an answer to the 3 questions. Caving is a big deal after you made your commitment to us.
What happened?
Why did it happen?
What are you going to do different this time?
Hiding it from loved ones is the same thing as lying.
Saying you've quit over and over again? You're either lying to yourself (and us) or you are a complete and total pussy.
Wake the fuck up. Are you quit or are you slowing down/weaning? If you aren't quit, beat it. You can be like me (a caver who didn't "get it" at first but now is QLF) or you can be like the rest of the chumps that talk big and disappear. It's your CHOICE.
Talk is cheap. Post roll and choose to be quit.
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I am trying to figure out what is going on here. Maybe I am off base, but I am lost. Did you post roll in the December group the other day? I believe you did... if so, then you need to answer the 3 questions and explain what will be different this time. You need to answer to December January... but really this is for you. it is the price of admission back after quitting caving.
You don't get to just sign up here, post roll, cave, and then just stroll in here with an "oh well, I caved this morning... guess i will post a new day 1."Â
That is not how it works. We all have a little more pride in our quit than that.Â
Sounds like you don't want to quit. Nicorette gum? Have you read anything about this site. Cold turkey! We don't do nicorette gum in these parts. Anything with nicotine is not an option. Dump it and quit, or go get your head right come back when you are ready. As stated, you got to want this. Flip floppin around is a waste of everyone's time.
Here are the 3 questions you need to answer when you are ready to quit.Â
What happened?
Why did it happen?
What are you going to do different this time
Saw you posted a day 2 today in Jan. You posted day 1 on Monday in Dec and caved.
You owe an answer to the 3 questions. Caving is a big deal after you made your commitment to us.
What happened?
Why did it happen?
What are you going to do different this time?
Really? I show up and post this thread on Monday saying how difficult it is to do this. Everyone comes along and asks me to post roll, so I f*cking do.
1) What happened? - I caved. This is the most difficult thing I've had to do in my life. Surprise, I caved.
2) Why did it happen? - This is the most difficult and important thing I've had to do in my life.
3) What are you going to do different this time? - I'm going to stop posting. I appreciate everything this site has to offer but I'm not signing up for it. If no one minds, I will be a ghost and read other people's stories as I'm writing my own.
As it stands, I'm on day 2 and I'm miserable and pissed (if you couldn't tell). I don't have to answer to anyone but myself - this is MY F*CKING QUIT and I'd say it's already moving along.
Thanks again for your support, everyone.
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I am trying to figure out what is going on here. Maybe I am off base, but I am lost. Did you post roll in the December group the other day? I believe you did... if so, then you need to answer the 3 questions and explain what will be different this time. You need to answer to December January... but really this is for you. it is the price of admission back after quitting caving.
You don't get to just sign up here, post roll, cave, and then just stroll in here with an "oh well, I caved this morning... guess i will post a new day 1."Â
That is not how it works. We all have a little more pride in our quit than that.Â
Sounds like you don't want to quit. Nicorette gum? Have you read anything about this site. Cold turkey! We don't do nicorette gum in these parts. Anything with nicotine is not an option. Dump it and quit, or go get your head right come back when you are ready. As stated, you got to want this. Flip floppin around is a waste of everyone's time.
Here are the 3 questions you need to answer when you are ready to quit.Â
What happened?
Why did it happen?
What are you going to do different this time
Saw you posted a day 2 today in Jan. You posted day 1 on Monday in Dec and caved.
You owe an answer to the 3 questions. Caving is a big deal after you made your commitment to us.
What happened?
Why did it happen?
What are you going to do different this time?
Really? I show up and post this thread on Monday saying how difficult it is to do this. Everyone comes along and asks me to post roll, so I f*cking do.
1) What happened? - I caved. This is the most difficult thing I've had to do in my life. Surprise, I caved.
2) Why did it happen? - This is the most difficult and important thing I've had to do in my life.
3) What are you going to do different this time? - I'm going to stop posting. I appreciate everything this site has to offer but I'm not signing up for it. If no one minds, I will be a ghost and read other people's stories as I'm writing my own.
As it stands, I'm on day 2 and I'm miserable and pissed (if you couldn't tell). I don't have to answer to anyone but myself - this is MY F*CKING QUIT and I'd say it's already moving along.
Thanks again for your support, everyone.
Answering to yourself?
Seems like doing it that way has been busting your ass, no?
Your way = cave. Our way = quit. But you're going to have to come to that realization on your own. We can't help you with that part. Only difference between you and me is that I made that realization before you. Too bad I had 17 years of slavery before the truth hit me in the face.
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1) What happened? - I caved. This is the most difficult thing I've had to do in my life. Surprise, I caved.
2) Why did it happen? - This is the most difficult and important thing I've had to do in my life.
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I am trying to figure out what is going on here. Maybe I am off base, but I am lost. Did you post roll in the December group the other day? I believe you did... if so, then you need to answer the 3 questions and explain what will be different this time. You need to answer to December January... but really this is for you. it is the price of admission back after quitting caving.
You don't get to just sign up here, post roll, cave, and then just stroll in here with an "oh well, I caved this morning... guess i will post a new day 1."Â
That is not how it works. We all have a little more pride in our quit than that.Â
Sounds like you don't want to quit. Nicorette gum? Have you read anything about this site. Cold turkey! We don't do nicorette gum in these parts. Anything with nicotine is not an option. Dump it and quit, or go get your head right come back when you are ready. As stated, you got to want this. Flip floppin around is a waste of everyone's time.
Here are the 3 questions you need to answer when you are ready to quit.Â
What happened?
Why did it happen?
What are you going to do different this time
Saw you posted a day 2 today in Jan. You posted day 1 on Monday in Dec and caved.
You owe an answer to the 3 questions. Caving is a big deal after you made your commitment to us.
What happened?
Why did it happen?
What are you going to do different this time?
Really? I show up and post this thread on Monday saying how difficult it is to do this. Everyone comes along and asks me to post roll, so I f*cking do.
1) What happened? - I caved. This is the most difficult thing I've had to do in my life. Surprise, I caved.
2) Why did it happen? - This is the most difficult and important thing I've had to do in my life.
3) What are you going to do different this time? - I'm going to stop posting. I appreciate everything this site has to offer but I'm not signing up for it. If no one minds, I will be a ghost and read other people's stories as I'm writing my own.
As it stands, I'm on day 2 and I'm miserable and pissed (if you couldn't tell). I don't have to answer to anyone but myself - this is MY F*CKING QUIT and I'd say it's already moving along.
Thanks again for your support, everyone.
Answering to yourself?
Seems like doing it that way has been busting your ass, no?
Your way = cave. Our way = quit. But you're going to have to come to that realization on your own. We can't help you with that part. Only difference between you and me is that I made that realization before you. Too bad I had 17 years of slavery before the truth hit me in the face.
Of course this isn't easy Dexter. I've spent the last 90 minutes reading posts on this site to take my mind off the nasty cravings this morning. It helps and it works. I've tried to quit a dozen times before. Each time I said, I got it this time. There isn't anything stopping me from making it. Less than a week in each time and I folded.
It's not easy, but want to know what would be worse? Recovering from facial surgery after they've cut half your face open to remove cancer. Worse than that? Looking your wife (or future wife) and kids in the eyes and saying that you're going to die because you were too selfish to just quit once and for all.
You're right Dexter. This is YOUR quit. To make sure that it's your QUIT though, take the support that we're offering you to make sure you make it. Maybe you don't need a ton of help, but if it keeps you from reaching for your keys to head to the store one time, it will be worth it. Stay strong brother and whatever you decide, best of luck staying nic free. You can do it. PM me if you need to chat.
peace and quit.
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This is exactly what your addicted self wants. First it talks you into caving and then it talks you into not posting roll because you get all but hurt because people hold you accountable. This is because their addicted self is still in control and will eventually talk them into another and another.
Your addicted to one of the most addictive drugs known to man. There is a quitter somewhere in you. Dig deep my friend! You got to reeeaaallllyyy want this and this site can help. The people here are good people that have battled this addiction and winning.
You came here on your own,, this tells me you wanted help. You wanted the accountability. What exactly did you think that meant?? Obviously we have different ways of thinking what accountability means. You think it means ball coddling and to me it means keeping you accountable. I expect you to keep your word. I have every day for 225 days and I expect you to.
Here it is,, plain an simple. Post your word and keep it one day at a time. You give that word and we will hold you to it. Get some numbers, use them. We fight this together. We won't be here to say it's ok every time you cave. It's been said and I'll say it again. We're here for one purpose. To QUIT!!!!!!!!!! If you can't make it more than a day or two you probably are right. Maybe you should move along. I actually like that anger your demonstrating. Turn that towards your real enemy and you will get stronger. Balls in your court.
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We all have been thru this so when you say it is difficult you are preaching to the choir. This sucks, it's hard... but we have all done it. You can do it too!
You are in a tough time foggy, and it sounds like you need positive support. Unfortunatley, when you join up... quit... then cave... you have to be accountable for your actions you need to be honest forthright with us. We just can't tell you everything you want to hear. That is why we have you answer the 3 questions. Your answers really showed no thought or reflection on your part and for #3 you actually gave up. That is not how we quit here. We QLF!
I know you want everyone to say that everything is ok and you are great, but that is not how this site works. If we see you going the wrong direction... we are going to tell you. That is why this site does work.
You need to relax and listen up. Think about the questions and answer them with some honesty put together a plan to beat this nicotine addition.
I promise you this... going at this alone will be tougher sledding and I would bet my next paycheck you will be back with your master by weeks end.
Stay here, answer for your cave, take some advice, post roll daily join the KTC brotherhood. You will win!
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[snip]...addicted self [snip]...caving [snip]...addicted self is still in control [snip]...Your addicted [snip]...addictive drugs [snip]...addiction and winning.Â
I actually like that anger your demonstrating. Turn that towards your real enemy and you will get stronger. Balls in your court.
Dexter1225, connect the dots for all the keywords above, THEN go back and re-read everything srans told you. I also reiterated his last piece of advice about anger. Everything srans said in his post is awesome and on point. His post is an inspirational "frame of mind"...
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I don't think you guys realize how difficult this addiction is to quit...give the dude a hug and tell him that you are sorry as you don't understand what he is going through.
I mean...geeeezzzz....you guys' had it so easy when you quit....all you had to do was post roll call and not dip...
It's much harder than that for us new guys... we have to...ummm...post roll call and...ummmm...not dip....
Crap, never mind and carry on.....nothing to see here.....
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[snip]...addicted self [snip]...caving [snip]...addicted self is still in control [snip]...Your addicted [snip]...addictive drugs [snip]...addiction and winning.Â
I actually like that anger your demonstrating. Turn that towards your real enemy and you will get stronger. Balls in your court.
Connect the dots for all the keywords above, THEN go back and re-read everything srans told you. I also reiterated his last piece of advice about anger. Everything srans said in his post is awesome and on point. His post is an inspirational "frame of mind"...
Yes, Srans, I agree with your post as well. I'm not looking for coddling, I'm not looking for hand-holding. I'm just wondering why everyone thinks I'm disrespecting the process here when I came in on Monday and posted roll when I was asked to. IT'S ON ME, simmer down.
I haven't caved, I'm on day 2. I quit today but not because I feel invigorated by some of the folks on here. I'm quitting for me.
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[snip]...addicted self [snip]...caving [snip]...addicted self is still in control [snip]...Your addicted [snip]...addictive drugs [snip]...addiction and winning. Â
I actually like that anger your demonstrating. Turn that towards your real enemy and you will get stronger. Balls in your court.
Connect the dots for all the keywords above, THEN go back and re-read everything srans told you. I also reiterated his last piece of advice about anger. Everything srans said in his post is awesome and on point. His post is an inspirational "frame of mind"...
Yes, Srans, I agree with your post as well. I'm not looking for coddling, I'm not looking for hand-holding. I'm just wondering why everyone thinks I'm disrespecting the process here when I came in on Monday and posted roll when I was asked to. IT'S ON ME, simmer down.
I haven't caved, I'm on day 2. I quit today but not because I feel invigorated by some of the folks on here. I'm quitting for me.
Well Dexter... that is how we the F we do things here! I explained it to you very nicely below.
If I caved today... and came back tomorrow and just said I am posting day 1... I would get my ass lit up! I would need to answer explain myself.
Not sure what you don't get about that. If you don't want to answer... then go away.
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We are not your enemy. We are your lifeline.
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We are not your enemy. We are your lifeline.
This. You win the internet today bro. +1
The support on this site is truly incredible! Yes it's hard, yes you have to want it, yes you'll have to do alot of self examination reflection through the whole process. THat's called healing.
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he caved again
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Hello everyone,
New member but not new to the site. I have visited a few times in the past when I have "quit" (I say "quit" because I have always caved and never been "successful").
I haven't been using that long (about 4-5 years, on and off), but I'm excited to get rid of it once and for all, get back to feeling like the old me, get more things done, feel more in-tune with everything around me and less cathartic.
I tossed the can after my drive to work this morning. Now it's all up to me to prove if I'm man enough.
I also wanted to thank everyone out there for this resource - there is a lot of good reading to prepare and know what to expect. And thank you everyone for your future support! lol
Joke was indeed on us.
Dexter - Take some time and do some soul searching. Had you kept your original promise, you would be emerging from the suck tomorrow. You might have had your first OK day. Your body and brain might have gotten to work healing.
Call us when you're ready to live life as a free man.
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he caved again
True, but there's lots of guys like CaliforniaSlim yourself who made it through another day without caving. Who are facing their days headon without nic winning!
:j2b:
I got no problems with do overs, I thought when I started that Id surely need a few, but the do over isn't free. You have to honestly answer the 3 questions. Why? So you learn something about yourself as a man don't waste the opportunity of a cave to learn about how you'll do better for yourself the next time. Caving isn't the end of the world, it happens, it's what you do with it that makes all the difference! Although the goal is one day at a time, you're not even making it that far if everyday is a new day 1.
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What the FUCK is this bullshit??!
Hey Dexter, it's obvious you're a fucking pussy and don't appreciate this site or the support it provides.
Until you grow some balls and show some respect, kindly fuck off and hit the bricks pal.
This is a place for quitters. Not only do you keep caving but your an ass about it.
Take a looong look in the mirror...that's a pussy ass bitch staring back at you. Only YOU can do something about it. Appears you're content with it though, so best of LUCK to you.
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:scowick: Nothing to see here except another special butterfly.....
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Answer the 3 questions
Post roll
Don't put that shit in your mouth
Don't you dare use us like the bitch uses you. Posting here without posting roll is unacceptable.
You think quitting nicotine is hard, try quitting cancer.outdoor texan (http://www.outdoortexan.com/mycancer.htm)
Get your shit together bub, we do this every day, you can too. The only reason you cave is because you want to cave.
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:scowick: Nothing to see here except another special butterfly.....
Seriously-
Answer the 3 questions
Post roll
Don't put that shit in your mouth
Don't you dare use us like the bitch uses you. Posting here without posting roll is unacceptable.
You think quitting nicotine is hard, try quitting cancer.outdoor texan (http://www.outdoortexan.com/mycancer.htm)
Get your shit together bub, we do this every day, you can too. The only reason you cave is because you want to cave.
Damn hard night!! 20 day fog shit I guess! Wife said I've been mean to kids. That I've been hollering at them. I didn't realize I was. I apologized told her that she didn't understand what I was going thru, told her I could start dipping again if that would make her happy. Thank God she said no! I'm finished with the nic bitch. It's taking time to re-adjust to life without the bitch!! Thanks for the support KTC!! I'm staying quit!!
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:scowick: Nothing to see here except another special butterfly.....
Seriously-
Answer the 3 questions
Post roll
Don't put that shit in your mouth
Don't you dare use us like the bitch uses you. Posting here without posting roll is unacceptable.Â
You think quitting nicotine is hard, try quitting cancer.outdoor texan (http://www.outdoortexan.com/mycancer.htm)
Get your shit together bub, we do this every day, you can too. The only reason you cave is because you want to cave.
Damn hard night!! 20 day fog shit I guess! Wife said I've been mean to kids. That I've been hollering at them. I didn't realize I was. I apologized told her that she didn't understand what I was going thru, told her I could start dipping again if that would make her happy. Thank God she said no! I'm finished with the nic bitch. It's taking time to re-adjust to life without the bitch!! Thanks for the support KTC!! I'm staying quit!!
Hey MJ, you should start your own intro page to document your quit and be a place where you get much needed support.
You don't need to be knocing around this losers intro.
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I am trying to figure out what is going on here. Maybe I am off base, but I am lost. Did you post roll in the December group the other day? I believe you did... if so, then you need to answer the 3 questions and explain what will be different this time. You need to answer to December January... but really this is for you. it is the price of admission back after quitting caving.
You don't get to just sign up here, post roll, cave, and then just stroll in here with an "oh well, I caved this morning... guess i will post a new day 1."
That is not how it works. We all have a little more pride in our quit than that.
Sounds like you don't want to quit. Nicorette gum? Have you read anything about this site. Cold turkey! We don't do nicorette gum in these parts. Anything with nicotine is not an option. Dump it and quit, or go get your head right come back when you are ready. As stated, you got to want this. Flip floppin around is a waste of everyone's time.
Here are the 3 questions you need to answer when you are ready to quit.
What happened?
Why did it happen?
What are you going to do different this time
Hey everyone.
I'm here to answer my 3 questions and hopefully some (probably not all) will accept me back. I WANT to quit, I WANT to be free, I WANT this
1) What happened?
I caved. I was beaten by my addiction.
2) Why did it happen?
I didn't reach out for support - and I have plenty of numbers. I sat around during the mid-afternoon craves and I let myself get tricked into thinking that I can't do this. I didn't feel I was confident enough to fight my addiction but that was probably my addiction talking.
3) What are you going to do different this time?
I'm going to use my support system before I do something stupid. I won't question my gut. I won't beat myself up if I feel I can't do this and NEED help. I'm going to quit, just for one day.
Let me know if my head isn't in the right place.
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See my comments below
Hey everyone.
I'm here to answer my 3 questions and hopefully some (probably not all) will accept me back. I WANT to quit, I WANT to be free, I WANT this
1) What happened?
I caved. I was beaten by my addiction. You are an addict. I am an addict. The difference bewtween you and me is that from my day 1 I have come here, listened to these people, trusted and believed every word that they have said, and accepted that I knew SHIT about quitting an addiction. I had to trust these guys and the results are 354 straight days of no nicotine. You were not beaten by your addiction. You made a conscious decision to return to slavery. Had you kept your word, your promise to us, you would not be in this situation.
2) Why did it happen?
I didn't reach out for support - and I have plenty of numbers. I sat around during the mid-afternoon craves and I let myself get tricked into thinking that I can't do this. I didn't feel I was confident enough to fight my addiction but that was probably my addiction talking. This is a weak answer. You didn't want to quit. You didn't quit. You stopped for two days. Then you used nic-gum, lozenges, patches, and who knows what else. IF you took the time to read anything on here, and were serious, you would never would have made that mistake.
3) What are you going to do different this time?
I'm going to use my support system before I do something stupid. I won't question my gut. I won't beat myself up if I feel I can't do this and NEED help. I'm going to quit, just for one day. Success starts with POSTING ROLL. I don't see your name on there. That's a issue. Next. After posting roll you need to keep your word ALL DAY; you had a problem with that last time. Third, what about all that NRT stuff you or your gf bought. Where is it? Are you keeping it for an emergency? Whose numbers do you have? Name names! Who has your number?
Let me know if my head isn't in the right place. -- You tell me. Are you in the right place?
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See my comments below
Hey everyone.
I'm here to answer my 3 questions and hopefully some (probably not all) will accept me back. I WANT to quit, I WANT to be free, I WANT this
1) What happened?
I caved. I was beaten by my addiction. You are an addict. I am an addict. The difference bewtween you and me is that from my day 1 I have come here, listened to these people, trusted and believed every word that they have said, and accepted that I knew SHIT about quitting an addiction. I had to trust these guys and the results are 354 straight days of no nicotine. You were not beaten by your addiction. You made a conscious decision to return to slavery. Had you kept your word, your promise to us, you would not be in this situation.
2) Why did it happen?
I didn't reach out for support - and I have plenty of numbers. I sat around during the mid-afternoon craves and I let myself get tricked into thinking that I can't do this. I didn't feel I was confident enough to fight my addiction but that was probably my addiction talking. This is a weak answer. You didn't want to quit. You didn't quit. You stopped for two days. Then you used nic-gum, lozenges, patches, and who knows what else. IF you took the time to read anything on here, and were serious, you would never would have made that mistake.
3) What are you going to do different this time?
I'm going to use my support system before I do something stupid. I won't question my gut. I won't beat myself up if I feel I can't do this and NEED help. I'm going to quit, just for one day. Success starts with POSTING ROLL. I don't see your name on there. That's a issue. Next. After posting roll you need to keep your word ALL DAY; you had a problem with that last time. Third, what about all that NRT stuff you or your gf bought. Where is it? Are you keeping it for an emergency? Whose numbers do you have? Name names! Who has your number?
Let me know if my head isn't in the right place. -- You tell me. Are you in the right place?
I am glad you are back and answering the 3 questions. There must be something in you that wants to quit or else you would not be coming back in here.
I want to ask you.... Are you asking permission to quit? Or are you going to take the Nic B out behind the woodshed and QLF? If you get a crave today... are you going to fold like a deck of cards and go back to your master. Or are you going to fight for your life? If someone puts a can of dip or some NRT items in your face... are you going to stuff your face, or are you going to tell that person to get that crap out of your face or you will rearrange their face?
I want to see some fire in you! Aren't you pissed off here? That fire is what is going to keep you quit brother. No fire in the belly ... you are toast!!!
Before you post roll make sure you are READY to quit today! You came in posted roll in December on Monday then caved quickly. You posted on Wednesday in Janauary caved again. So that is 2 caves in less than a week. Do not take posting roll lightly! If you do it... then damnit -- you bust your a$$ to stay quit today!!!
Dexter... you are either in the "third time is a charm" category, or the "three strikes and your out category". It is up to you to decide which one you are in bro.
I am not going anywhere today. I posted roll I am QLF today. Are you ready to join me the rest of the bad a$$ quitters here? When you are ready... PM me your number I will quit with you.
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See my comments below
Hey everyone.
I'm here to answer my 3 questions and hopefully some (probably not all) will accept me back. I WANT to quit, I WANT to be free, I WANT this
1) What happened?
I caved. I was beaten by my addiction. You are an addict. I am an addict. The difference bewtween you and me is that from my day 1 I have come here, listened to these people, trusted and believed every word that they have said, and accepted that I knew SHIT about quitting an addiction. I had to trust these guys and the results are 354 straight days of no nicotine. You were not beaten by your addiction. You made a conscious decision to return to slavery. Had you kept your word, your promise to us, you would not be in this situation.
2) Why did it happen?
I didn't reach out for support - and I have plenty of numbers. I sat around during the mid-afternoon craves and I let myself get tricked into thinking that I can't do this. I didn't feel I was confident enough to fight my addiction but that was probably my addiction talking. This is a weak answer. You didn't want to quit. You didn't quit. You stopped for two days. Then you used nic-gum, lozenges, patches, and who knows what else. IF you took the time to read anything on here, and were serious, you would never would have made that mistake.
3) What are you going to do different this time?
I'm going to use my support system before I do something stupid. I won't question my gut. I won't beat myself up if I feel I can't do this and NEED help. I'm going to quit, just for one day. Success starts with POSTING ROLL. I don't see your name on there. That's a issue. Next. After posting roll you need to keep your word ALL DAY; you had a problem with that last time. Third, what about all that NRT stuff you or your gf bought. Where is it? Are you keeping it for an emergency? Whose numbers do you have? Name names! Who has your number?
Let me know if my head isn't in the right place. -- You tell me. Are you in the right place?
I am glad you are back and answering the 3 questions. There must be something in you that wants to quit or else you would not be coming back in here.
I want to ask you.... Are you asking permission to quit? Or are you going to take the Nic B out behind the woodshed and QLF? If you get a crave today... are you going to fold like a deck of cards and go back to your master. Or are you going to fight for your life? If someone puts a can of dip or some NRT items in your face... are you going to stuff your face, or are you going to tell that person to get that crap out of your face or you will rearrange their face?
I want to see some fire in you! Aren't you pissed off here? That fire is what is going to keep you quit brother. No fire in the belly ... you are toast!!!
Before you post roll make sure you are READY to quit today! You came in posted roll in December on Monday then caved quickly. You posted on Wednesday in Janauary caved again. So that is 2 caves in less than a week. Do not take posting roll lightly! If you do it... then damnit -- you bust your a$$ to stay quit today!!!
Dexter... you are either in the "third time is a charm" category, or the "three strikes and your out category". It is up to you to decide which one you are in bro.
I am not going anywhere today. I posted roll I am QLF today. Are you ready to join me the rest of the bad a$$ quitters here? When you are ready... PM me your number I will quit with you.
Dexter... I am getting ready to hit the rack. I was hopeful to see a response from you today. I saw you reading evil my response to your post. But nothing. That is part of the reason why people hassle you some. Trying to see if you are serious. Based on your non-response... all that can be taken from that is you are not serious. Do you have nothing to say? Did we scare you off?
Brother,,, you may not have the perfect response to the 3 questions, my post, evils post, anyone else's post... who cares. The most important question is do you want to quit. If you do... then step up and quit. Post ROLL and stay quit! You can stay quit today... that is how this all starts my brother. Don't be hesitant to step forward quit because your trying to say something smart that will make us all happy. Actions speak louder than words.