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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: RockyMountainHigh on March 06, 2009, 12:12:00 AM
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Hi all. I'm Chris from Colorado and i started dipping heavily over a year ago. I was living in SW Virginia near Tenn. at a State park where everyone dipped or chewed. I used to dip once in a while when playing ice hockey bc it gave me a rush and also kept me focused. When I started working in the south, the culture got me. I was lured by the blue colar rural image. All my coworkers dipped Husky, Cope or Skoal. I started with the fruit skoal crap and my friends I came to VA with to work most all smoked pack per day and thought it was great I joined with them.
By October last year my friend Brad and I were helping out with Hurricane Ike relief and were filling up a 2 liter bottle with spit and tobacco for a gift to our friend who was completely against smoking, dipping and drinking. this was probably my low point because I was dipping a can and a half per day.
When I moved back to Colorado I stayed with my parents for 2 months until I could find a job and place to live. I was sneaking around spitting in bottles and driving in the night to go pick up a can of grizzly straight. My Dad found out and was really sad. I moved out a few weeks later and told them I had quit. I hadnt because I was too addicted to stop and too ashamed to tell them I couldnt.
This week I have tried to quit 2 times by doing a binge method. First I would buy a can and then every 30 mins spit out the chaw and do it again until the can was finished. by this time I was sweating and tired and didnt want to do it again. After about 2 days I would get an uncontrolable craving and cave so i decided to cold turkey it and found this board online.
This is it. I dont want cancer, i'm tired of spending so much money, im sick of lying and I need to better my lifestyle.
This is it. As of this morning at midnight, I quit. Mar 5 2009
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Hi all. I'm Chris from Colorado and i started dipping heavily over a year ago. I was living in SW Virginia near Tenn. at a State park where everyone dipped or chewed. I used to dip once in a while when playing ice hockey bc it gave me a rush and also kept me focused. When I started working in the south, the culture got me. I was lured by the blue colar rural image. All my coworkers dipped Husky, Cope or Skoal. I started with the fruit skoal crap and my friends I came to VA with to work most all smoked pack per day and thought it was great I joined with them.
By October last year my friend Brad and I were helping out with Hurricane Ike relief and were filling up a 2 liter bottle with spit and tobacco for a gift to our friend who was completely against smoking, dipping and drinking. this was probably my low point because I was dipping a can and a half per day.
When I moved back to Colorado I stayed with my parents for 2 months until I could find a job and place to live. I was sneaking around spitting in bottles and driving in the night to go pick up a can of grizzly straight. My Dad found out and was really sad. I moved out a few weeks later and told them I had quit. I hadnt because I was too addicted to stop and too ashamed to tell them I couldnt.
This week I have tried to quit 2 times by doing a binge method. First I would buy a can and then every 30 mins spit out the chaw and do it again until the can was finished. by this time I was sweating and tired and didnt want to do it again. After about 2 days I would get an uncontrolable craving and cave so i decided to cold turkey it and found this board online.
This is it. I dont want cancer, i'm tired of spending so much money, im sick of lying and I need to better my lifestyle.
This is it. As of this morning at midnight, I quit. Mar 5 2009
Rocky-
You've certainly made a wise choice and this site is an excellent source of support and education. Trust me, you're going to need both to be successful in your quit. Get in a group, start posting roll and read every resource they have available. Take each day as it comes and don't worry about the days to follow. Sounds stupid but has been effective for me. Make no mistake, you will have some super shitty days ahead as you "detox" off the nicotine. But know this, you will have days to follow that are amazing. If you need support/have questions, shoot me a pm. You can do this!
Gooch
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Welcom Rocky!!!!
Here are some links that may help...
Your quit group is June 09... here ....
index.php?showtopic=2172 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=2172)
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Roll call, why we do it your word by LOOT.
index.php?showtopic=120 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=120)
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A how to get started by Remy:
index.php?showtopic=1360 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=1360)
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How to post roll.
index.php?showtopic=50 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50)
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How to Post ROLL CALL - Roll Call Instructions
Step 1 - Find the last Roll Call
Step 2 - Hit the "Quote" button in the upper right hand corner.
Step 3 - Click your mouse ANYWHERE in The bottom Box
Step 4 - Hit Ctrl and "A" at the Same time so it looks like THIS
Step 5 - Hit Ctrl and "X" at the same time so there is NOTHING in Either Box
Step 6 - Click your mouse in the TOP BOX
Step 7 - Hit Ctrl and "V" at the same time to Past the info into the top box AND ADD YOUR info to the bottom of the list
Step 8 - Hit ADD REPLY below the bottom box
Step 9 - Go back to the 1st unread post, pat yourself on the back, and have a beer cause you will not be dipping today.
If you need anything else, give me a shout.
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I can't stop myself! I'm dipping right now and feel terrible about it. What can I do to get my mind off of dip? The cravings just dont go away after a few days. I really want to quit and have tried so many times. Can anyone post some of their experiences on what they did to get their mind off of it? What can I do? I feel like its running my life.
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I can't stop myself! I'm dipping right now and feel terrible about it. What can I do to get my mind off of dip? The cravings just dont go away after a few days. I really want to quit and have tried so many times. Can anyone post some of their experiences on what they did to get their mind off of it? What can I do? I feel like its running my life.
The "binge" method?! Really? Cmon dude. I have heard some really stupid things in my time but this by far ranks right up towards the top. And then ask how to get your mind off of dip? The cravings are not going to go away in a few days you are right. This shit aint easy! It is going to take some work on your part. There is no magic pill. The first thing you need to do is flush all of the shit you have down the toilet. Get rid of it!
To occupy your mind I suggest reading everything on this site word for word. Look at the cancer pics. Print shit, tape it to your frig, bathroom mirror, whatever the hell it takes. There is plenty of valuable information here to keep your mind busy. Post roll everyday, get some phone numbers and become accountable! Make a believer out of us because so far what I have heard is WEAK! You first posted on March 6. It is March 25 and you have 4 posts! Dont waste our time!
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I can't stop myself! I'm dipping right now and feel terrible about it. What can I do to get my mind off of dip? The cravings just dont go away after a few days. I really want to quit and have tried so many times. Can anyone post some of their experiences on what they did to get their mind off of it? What can I do? I feel like its running my life.
Yes, you can stop yourself. Everyone here has battled with this addiction. I got some news for you, the cravings don't go away in 3 days. It takes time, but in my case the cravings become less every day. Now I go days without thinking about dipping. I still get craving/twinge from time-to-time, but now I have the tools to deal with it.
The first couple weeks are tough, but you have the power to make it through. Find the distraction you need. For me, it was spending time here. I read and read. There are plenty of things here. Pick some new hobbies, start exercising, or really anything to keep you busy. Just try hard to not put yourself in situation where you will fail.
You feel like the dip is running you life? That is because it is and will continue to do so until you do something about it.
You will find the best support here, all you have to do is accept it. You make the committment to quit this ugly addiction and you will have plenty of support. So spit out that dip and lets get started!
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I can't stop myself! I'm dipping right now and feel terrible about it. What can I do to get my mind off of dip? The cravings just dont go away after a few days. I really want to quit and have tried so many times. Can anyone post some of their experiences on what they did to get their mind off of it? What can I do? I feel like its running my life.
The craves aren't going to ever go away if you keep stuffing a dip in your mouth everytime it gets unbearable. Don't let it get to that point. Have a plan a for these situations and follow it.
We can help but this ultimately comes down to you RockyMountain, you ultimately have to decide what to do. This isn't easy, there is no short cut. Are a couple of weeks of hell worth it, or would you rather be controlled by the contents of a little round can for the rest of your life?
Your choice....
Edit: ...and don't post in a quit group and then come out here a few minutes later with dip in anymore either.
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I can't stop myself! I'm dipping right now and feel terrible about it. What can I do to get my mind off of dip? The cravings just dont go away after a few days. I really want to quit and have tried so many times. Can anyone post some of their experiences on what they did to get their mind off of it? What can I do? I feel like its running my life.
ShEeeeeeeeet..... That's a tough spot.
I suspect you are considering quitting.
Iuchewie decision post spells it out. Until you can flick the switch that dipski will continue to fuk u up... I couldn't quit or even consider quitting until I lace my wifes dinner with kodiak... Then after her going absolutely donkey kong, I asked myself y the fuck do I dip? Its just not worth it... I'm not doing it anymore... Prior to that I always thought it would be nice not to dip, but I had no intention of putting it down.
Fukukodiak
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Hi all. I'm Chris from Colorado and i started dipping heavily over a year ago. I was living in SW Virginia near Tenn. at a State park where everyone dipped or chewed. I used to dip once in a while when playing ice hockey bc it gave me a rush and also kept me focused. When I started working in the south, the culture got me. I was lured by the blue colar rural image. All my coworkers dipped Husky, Cope or Skoal. I started with the fruit skoal crap and my friends I came to VA with to work most all smoked pack per day and thought it was great I joined with them.
By October last year my friend Brad and I were helping out with Hurricane Ike relief and were filling up a 2 liter bottle with spit and tobacco for a gift to our friend who was completely against smoking, dipping and drinking. this was probably my low point because I was dipping a can and a half per day.
When I moved back to Colorado I stayed with my parents for 2 months until I could find a job and place to live. I was sneaking around spitting in bottles and driving in the night to go pick up a can of grizzly straight. My Dad found out and was really sad. I moved out a few weeks later and told them I had quit. I hadnt because I was too addicted to stop and too ashamed to tell them I couldnt.
This week I have tried to quit 2 times by doing a binge method. First I would buy a can and then every 30 mins spit out the chaw and do it again until the can was finished. by this time I was sweating and tired and didnt want to do it again. After about 2 days I would get an uncontrolable craving and cave so i decided to cold turkey it and found this board online.
This is it. I dont want cancer, i'm tired of spending so much money, im sick of lying and I need to better my lifestyle.
This is it. As of this morning at midnight, I quit. Mar 5 2009
Sorry I have to go afte u... Your binge method caught my eye.... U stupid motherfucker!!!!!!! Ur binging style was my leisurely dipping style.... Wtf were u thinking ud just get sick of dipping??? Don't work even if u wrenched ur guts ull still need a taste soon....
If u want to have some power with the decison spill a spitter on a baby or let grabby have a chug of the 2liter spitter....
Then ull have some 3rd party accountability.
Don't be a pussy tell ur dad ur dipping, word got back to mine a got dip in wifes dinner and they always liked her better. U need somebody you can look in the eye.
Stand in front of the mirror call urself a weak pussy and mean it....this will help u
Wish I could kick u in the head from here,
For ur own good... Sometimes u need a head. kick....
Decide I got ur back...
Fukukodiak
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I can't stop myself! I'm dipping right now and feel terrible about it. What can I do to get my mind off of dip? The cravings just dont go away after a few days. I really want to quit and have tried so many times. Can anyone post some of their experiences on what they did to get their mind off of it? What can I do? I feel like its running my life.
You can do this Chris. Throw that can away right now. Don't look back.
I'm on day 3 and I'm not gonna lie, it's hell. It sucks. I'd like to punch everyone I meet right in the fucking mouth.
If I can do this, you can do this. I've been shoving redman in my mouth for 20 years. And I don't spit. I'm amazed my stomach lining still exists. My blood is probably 50% nicotene and tobacco juice by now.
And I'm on day 3. If I can make it so can you. The withdrawals are terrible. I've gained 5 pounds the first 2 days, and I don't give a shit. I just wanna quit.
My mouth hurts. I'm pissed off.
My head hurts. I'm pissed about that too.
I'm fucking pissed about everything, but I'm gonna get through this.
Giev it a shot with me man. You can kick this.
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I can't stop myself! I'm dipping right now and feel terrible about it. What can I do to get my mind off of dip? The cravings just dont go away after a few days. I really want to quit and have tried so many times. Can anyone post some of their experiences on what they did to get their mind off of it? What can I do? I feel like its running my life.
You can do this Chris. Throw that can away right now. Don't look back.
I'm on day 3 and I'm not gonna lie, it's hell. It sucks. I'd like to punch everyone I meet right in the fucking mouth.
If I can do this, you can do this. I've been shoving redman in my mouth for 20 years. And I don't spit. I'm amazed my stomach lining still exists. My blood is probably 50% nicotene and tobacco juice by now.
And I'm on day 3. If I can make it so can you. The withdrawals are terrible. I've gained 5 pounds the first 2 days, and I don't give a shit. I just wanna quit.
My mouth hurts. I'm pissed off.
My head hurts. I'm pissed about that too.
I'm fucking pissed about everything, but I'm gonna get through this.
Giev it a shot with me man. You can kick this.
Rocky, if Brad can do this so can YOU!!. I went thorough some of he same shit 6 months ago and stayed focused. If you can get through the first couple of weeks things WILL get better. Life IS better not being controlled by the can or pouch. I also gained weight and now am working on trying to lose it.
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Cancer can happen to anyone at anytime. Don't be fooled or pressured. When I joined the site in the spring, I had everything going right for me. I had a dream job as a Park Ranger in the Rocky Mountains, I had finished school (after 5 years!) and most of all I enjoyed smoking Marlboro Smooths and dipping Copenhagen. I tried to quit for about 2 weeks and failed. All summer and fall I developed tiny lesions along my lip. I thought my mouth was just irritated from the dip. By October I noticed myself biting my lip and the lesions growing. I fooled myself into believing that using dip and cigarettes for
only a year and a half would not give me cancer. My grandfather has chewed for 60 years and still no mouth cancer so I was immune. I considered going to a doctor, but I convinced myself that my mouth was just irritated from biting and messing with my lower lip. That is when I lost my job, and my health insurance. Not only could I not afford to go to the doctor, but that is when my mouth "bumps" started getting bigger and spreading. As of 11/5/2009 at midnight I will have only been quit 9 full days.
Here is why I won't be going back to the can under ANY circumstances. I looked up the symptoms of squamous cell carcinoma and I exhibit nearly all of them. A friend who is in medical school looked at my lip and said he thinks that its precancerous but that I should go to a Dermatologist to get a biopsy.
Dip has:
1. Cost me friends who don't want to associate with a "junkie".
2. Caused a lot of shame having to explain to family and friends why I might not survive.
3. Taken 18 months of my life and will most likely take more.
4. Emptied my wallet of thousands of dollars.
5. Forced me to get an expensive biopsy done without any insurance.
6. Made me single again. I made no effort to quit for my girlfriend.
I await my appointment on the 16th for the biopsy but will unlikely be getting any procedures done due to the cost and my job's health care doesn't kick in until July next year. (this isn't intended to be a health care reform rant by the way. Sorry if it sounds that way.)
Worst thing about it? I'm 23. It can't happen to me right? Wrong.
What I'm trying to say to all of you teenagers and twenty-somethings out there: Don't continue this habit because you could end up in my situation. Don't make the same damn mistake I have. For the love of God, you need to understand that this stuff is toxic and you are NOT immune from it. For guys older than me, quit soon because I was told the risk gets higher as you get older and chances are you have a family to care for unlike myself. Ignorance is not an excuse. I never had drug education in school about snuff and never knew much about cancer of the mouth. The only thing I recall was for a coworker in Alabama telling me that you should only quit when you develop "white patches". I never had these but one little bump turned into a whole mess of tumors and I should have gone to the doctor and dentist while I still could afford it. What started as a small bump is now a huge mess.
Its almost day 9 with no dip and I can attest that quitting is hard but you just need motivation. If a part of you still wants to dip, you will have a hell of a time quitting. I've had cravings, but disfigurement and death are not worth a couple bucks for a can of toxic chemicals to get a buzz.
If anybody here is struggling with relapses and wants some advice, do not hesitate to message me. Believe me, I know about not being able to sleep more than a few hours a night (if at all), the sweating, the raging, and trying to convince yourself that you can have just one more can. I still have the physical symptoms, but I think the psychological symptoms can go away quick. I had a craving at work today but had no desire to speed along this spread of tumors. If you need help, I will respond to your questions.
-RMH
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Cancer can happen to anyone at anytime. Don't be fooled or pressured. When I joined the site in the spring, I had everything going right for me. I had a dream job as a Park Ranger in the Rocky Mountains, I had finished school (after 5 years!) and most of all I enjoyed smoking Marlboro Smooths and dipping Copenhagen. I tried to quit for about 2 weeks and failed. All summer and fall I developed tiny lesions along my lip. I thought my mouth was just irritated from the dip. By October I noticed myself biting my lip and the lesions growing. I fooled myself into believing that using dip and cigarettes for
only a year and a half would not give me cancer. My grandfather has chewed for 60 years and still no mouth cancer so I was immune. I considered going to a doctor, but I convinced myself that my mouth was just irritated from biting and messing with my lower lip. That is when I lost my job, and my health insurance. Not only could I not afford to go to the doctor, but that is when my mouth "bumps" started getting bigger and spreading. As of 11/5/2009 at midnight I will have only been quit 9 full days.
Here is why I won't be going back to the can under ANY circumstances. I looked up the symptoms of squamous cell carcinoma and I exhibit nearly all of them. A friend who is in medical school looked at my lip and said he thinks that its precancerous but that I should go to a Dermatologist to get a biopsy.
Dip has:
1. Cost me friends who don't want to associate with a "junkie".
2. Caused a lot of shame having to explain to family and friends why I might not survive.
3. Taken 18 months of my life and will most likely take more.
4. Emptied my wallet of thousands of dollars.
5. Forced me to get an expensive biopsy done without any insurance.
6. Made me single again. I made no effort to quit for my girlfriend.
I await my appointment on the 16th for the biopsy but will unlikely be getting any procedures done due to the cost and my job's health care doesn't kick in until July next year. (this isn't intended to be a health care reform rant by the way. Sorry if it sounds that way.)
Worst thing about it? I'm 23. It can't happen to me right? Wrong.
What I'm trying to say to all of you teenagers and twenty-somethings out there: Don't continue this habit because you could end up in my situation. Don't make the same damn mistake I have. For the love of God, you need to understand that this stuff is toxic and you are NOT immune from it. For guys older than me, quit soon because I was told the risk gets higher as you get older and chances are you have a family to care for unlike myself. Ignorance is not an excuse. I never had drug education in school about snuff and never knew much about cancer of the mouth. The only thing I recall was for a coworker in Alabama telling me that you should only quit when you develop "white patches". I never had these but one little bump turned into a whole mess of tumors and I should have gone to the doctor and dentist while I still could afford it. What started as a small bump is now a huge mess.
Its almost day 9 with no dip and I can attest that quitting is hard but you just need motivation. If a part of you still wants to dip, you will have a hell of a time quitting. I've had cravings, but disfigurement and death are not worth a couple bucks for a can of toxic chemicals to get a buzz.
If anybody here is struggling with relapses and wants some advice, do not hesitate to message me. Believe me, I know about not being able to sleep more than a few hours a night (if at all), the sweating, the raging, and trying to convince yourself that you can have just one more can. I still have the physical symptoms, but I think the psychological symptoms can go away quick. I had a craving at work today but had no desire to speed along this spread of tumors. If you need help, I will respond to your questions.
-RMH
RMH, I know you are going through a difficult time. Stick close and you will find all the support you need to get through this.
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Cancer can happen to anyone at anytime. Don't be fooled or pressured. When I joined the site in the spring, I had everything going right for me. I had a dream job as a Park Ranger in the Rocky Mountains, I had finished school (after 5 years!) and most of all I enjoyed smoking Marlboro Smooths and dipping Copenhagen. I tried to quit for about 2 weeks and failed. All summer and fall I developed tiny lesions along my lip. I thought my mouth was just irritated from the dip. By October I noticed myself biting my lip and the lesions growing. I fooled myself into believing that using dip and cigarettes for
only a year and a half would not give me cancer. My grandfather has chewed for 60 years and still no mouth cancer so I was immune. I considered going to a doctor, but I convinced myself that my mouth was just irritated from biting and messing with my lower lip. That is when I lost my job, and my health insurance. Not only could I not afford to go to the doctor, but that is when my mouth "bumps" started getting bigger and spreading. As of 11/5/2009 at midnight I will have only been quit 9 full days.
Here is why I won't be going back to the can under ANY circumstances. I looked up the symptoms of squamous cell carcinoma and I exhibit nearly all of them. A friend who is in medical school looked at my lip and said he thinks that its precancerous but that I should go to a Dermatologist to get a biopsy.
Dip has:
1. Cost me friends who don't want to associate with a "junkie".
2. Caused a lot of shame having to explain to family and friends why I might not survive.
3. Taken 18 months of my life and will most likely take more.
4. Emptied my wallet of thousands of dollars.
5. Forced me to get an expensive biopsy done without any insurance.
6. Made me single again. I made no effort to quit for my girlfriend.
I await my appointment on the 16th for the biopsy but will unlikely be getting any procedures done due to the cost and my job's health care doesn't kick in until July next year. (this isn't intended to be a health care reform rant by the way. Sorry if it sounds that way.)
Worst thing about it? I'm 23. It can't happen to me right? Wrong.
What I'm trying to say to all of you teenagers and twenty-somethings out there: Don't continue this habit because you could end up in my situation. Don't make the same damn mistake I have. For the love of God, you need to understand that this stuff is toxic and you are NOT immune from it. For guys older than me, quit soon because I was told the risk gets higher as you get older and chances are you have a family to care for unlike myself. Ignorance is not an excuse. I never had drug education in school about snuff and never knew much about cancer of the mouth. The only thing I recall was for a coworker in Alabama telling me that you should only quit when you develop "white patches". I never had these but one little bump turned into a whole mess of tumors and I should have gone to the doctor and dentist while I still could afford it. What started as a small bump is now a huge mess.
Its almost day 9 with no dip and I can attest that quitting is hard but you just need motivation. If a part of you still wants to dip, you will have a hell of a time quitting. I've had cravings, but disfigurement and death are not worth a couple bucks for a can of toxic chemicals to get a buzz.
If anybody here is struggling with relapses and wants some advice, do not hesitate to message me. Believe me, I know about not being able to sleep more than a few hours a night (if at all), the sweating, the raging, and trying to convince yourself that you can have just one more can. I still have the physical symptoms, but I think the psychological symptoms can go away quick. I had a craving at work today but had no desire to speed along this spread of tumors. If you need help, I will respond to your questions.
-RMH
RMH, I know you are going through a difficult time. Stick close and you will find all the support you need to get through this.
RMH,
A great decision you have made, feel free to send me a PM and I will glad to share my number with you.
One last thing, you said you are single because you would not quit for your girlfriend, YOU MUST DO THIS FOT YOUSELF. If you do this for some other reason first, it will be much harder.
Good luck and stay strong.
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We'll keep you in our thoughts RMH.
WE ARE QSX!
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Yo dude you can hang with me. I hope everyting is working out and you are getting this checked out... Insurance or no insurance. there are places you con go and get help, you just got to know. I know where they are in Houston, but that does'nt help you out much. call me if you need to....I thought this was a PM me. PM me for a number and we can kickit.
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Hang in there buddy. On a positive note, congratulations on making the best decision of your life!
Most people here can relate to a lot of what you're going through. Use this site and community to help control those craves and to strengthen your resolve. You got the right attitude.
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Welcome and congrats on quitting. I sent you a PM.
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Thanks for all the responses. This site is really helping me stay quit. I'm close to 2 weeks now and you all have helped out tremendously. You are all welcome to PM me any advice. Especially if you have gone through something like this yourself.
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Thanks for all the responses. This site is really helping me stay quit. I'm close to 2 weeks now and you all have helped out tremendously. You are all welcome to PM me any advice. Especially if you have gone through something like this yourself.
Congrats, you have the most difficult part of this ride knocked on the head. Will there still be bumps in the road? Yes. Will we help you get past those rocky times? Yes. Stay close, stay strong, and stay QUIT!!!!
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Thanks for all the responses. This site is really helping me stay quit. I'm close to 2 weeks now and you all have helped out tremendously. You are all welcome to PM me any advice. Especially if you have gone through something like this yourself.
Let me be the first to give you some excellent advise!!! Get over to the March 2010 group and start posting roll with them. Man up and put yourself in a situation where you have accountability. I don't know if you posted last Spring when you caved or not, but I am telling you as a friend who wants to see you succeed, if you don't post roll daily you will fail again!!!!!! :angry:
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Thanks for all the responses. This site is really helping me stay quit. I'm close to 2 weeks now and you all have helped out tremendously. You are all welcome to PM me any advice. Especially if you have gone through something like this yourself.
Let me be the first to give you some excellent advise!!! Get over to the March 2010 group and start posting roll with them. Man up and put yourself in a situation where you have accountability. I don't know if you posted last Spring when you caved or not, but I am telling you as a friend who wants to see you succeed, if you don't post roll daily you will fail again!!!!!! :angry:
soooooo. Haven't been on the site since the 8th. Glad to see your working the program. _ I sent you a Pm asking some questions in regards to your situation. No reply. Although multiple sores or lesions is probably not cancer according to the dentist. Usually doesn't present like that.
SM