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Title: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: Bigtuna77 on September 30, 2013, 02:17:00 PM
Hi all.

I just wanted to introduce myself. I'm Russ. 36. From Western Kentucky. So glad I found this site. I started that innocent Hawken brand about 22 years ago, gradually worked my way up to a can a day plus of Kodiak. First thing in my mouth in the morning, last thing out at night. I have tried quitting a half a dozen times, but I believe this time it's for real!! This time I'm angry at myself for having dipped so long. This time I also have my kids to keep me in check. My son asked me ten times yesterday if I was going to quit today. I made him a promise that I would and I AM going to keep. I only wished I had done it as intended when he was born. That way he would never have had to see me fool with that nasty garbage.
With all that being said. I officially quit at 2200 hours, September 29. This morning I have been as emotional as a teenage girl.......just sad at thoughts of my kids growing up so fast and the like. Is this normal or am I just a big vagina? I don't remember it from previous quitting attempts, but the last one one about 5 years ago. I can handle a few mood swings to be finished with this crap!
Thank you all for reading this. I hope to get to know more of you in the near future. Any tips, tricks, advice, or just some cheering on would be appreciated!
Thanks again. Russ.
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: rickddd on September 30, 2013, 02:34:00 PM
Welcome Russ! and congratulations on making the decision to be quit for good! Your story is similar to most everyone on this site - many failed quits over the years, broken promises to quit when such-and-such happens, etc. You're not alone, my friend.

Yes its normal to be more emotional at this time. You'll most likely have alot of anxiety, irritability, insomnia, some depression, lots of things like that. It is extremely difficult to go thru, not gonna lie. The good news is that it all means your body is healing, and re-balancing itself to life without nicotine.

We quit one day at a time here - ODAAT. We dont worry about quitting forever, because sometimes, thats too much to take on, and doesn't seem do-able. So dont think about quitting forever. Just promise to quit today, all day long. Then do the same thing tomorrow as soon as you wake up.

What we do here is every day, in the morning sometime, we all come here and "post roll". You will post roll with the January 2014 group, because that's when you'll hit 100 days quit, or the Hall of Fame. Posting roll is your promise to not dip that day. I recommend reading the pink "WELCOME CENTER" link near the top left of this page, and learn how to post roll.

The only advice I can give you is this: do whatever it takes to not put dip into your mouth, or nicotine of any kind. Most people use hard candy, gum, spits, and fake/herbal chew to help them thru. Exercise definitely helps with the anxiety and irritability. Whatever it takes. Just find what works for you, and stick with it.
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: CaliforniaSlim on September 30, 2013, 02:49:00 PM
Quote from: Bigtuna77
Hi all.

I just wanted to introduce myself. I'm Russ. 36. From Western Kentucky. So glad I found this site. I started that innocent Hawken brand about 22 years ago, gradually worked my way up to a can a day plus of Kodiak. First thing in my mouth in the morning, last thing out at night. I have tried quitting a half a dozen times, but I believe this time it's for real!! This time I'm angry at myself for having dipped so long. This time I also have my kids to keep me in check. My son asked me ten times yesterday if I was going to quit today. I made him a promise that I would and I AM going to keep. I only wished I had done it as intended when he was born. That way he would never have had to see me fool with that nasty garbage.
With all that being said. I officially quit at 2200 hours, September 29. This morning I have been as emotional as a teenage girl.......just sad at thoughts of my kids growing up so fast and the like. Is this normal or am I just a big vagina? I don't remember it from previous quitting attempts, but the last one one about 5 years ago. I can handle a few mood swings to be finished with this crap!
Thank you all for reading this. I hope to get to know more of you in the near future. Any tips, tricks, advice, or just some cheering on would be appreciated!
Thanks again. Russ.
Welcome, great decision. You are definitely in the right place to quit.

Do What RickDDD said. Read everything in the Welcome Center and learn how to, and why we post roll. It is the foundation of our quit.

You can do better than just "believe this time it is real" You can make it real. It is real. You quit. Go post roll promising to all of us and yourself that you will stay quit today. Just today. Then keep your word.

Tips and tricks.... well brother, I hate to tell you, but there is no easy ride. Have some candy, gum, fake chew, or sunflower seeds handy at all times. Just giving your mouth something to do will help a little. Hydrate like crazy. Exercise. It all helps a little.

Buckle up, enjoy the misery and put it into your memory banks so that you never want to do it again.

Send me a PM and I will shoot you my phone number. Call or text if you are having a rough time of it. IF you wander off the path, I will hunt you down. That is the accountability that this place offers, and keeps us all quit.

Glad to have you here. Glad to be quit with you.
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: traumagnet on September 30, 2013, 03:14:00 PM
Yes you are a big vagina or a big tuna...Just kidding no not going to lie to you it fucking sucks in the beginning. A great piece of advice I got here in the beginning was embrace the suck, as weird as that sounds do it. Know that you are going through this because you are ridding yourself from the nasty poison that has enslaved you so many years. Its a bad relationship where one side just takes and gives nothing. Remember how awful you feel how foggy you feel and know you don't want to go thru this again...NAFAR never again for any reason! It is how it has to be.

Post roll with your group EDD (every damn day) it is the cornerstone of the site. We post roll and give our word for today only that we will not use. wake tomorrow and repeat. We take it ODAAT (one day at a time) around here.

Get numbers from your group and others keep them in your phone these are the tools you will need to fight the bitch. you have to pull the trigger once you do and send out a message you need help 16000 addicts will come running to help you. If you need numbers mine is in your inbox.
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: zam on September 30, 2013, 03:53:00 PM
Congrats on a great decision. It is a decision, right? IE- you aren't thinking about not dipping today...you aren't dipping today.
Anyway, for now you don't need any tips or tricks. The only tip or trick we can really offer you now is to read everything in the WELCOME CENTER, as has been suggested. Then decide if you want to jump on board with what we do. That's first. If you decide to post roll, I have literally ONE tip or trick for you to remember , and it works without fail. Here it is: do not put nicotine into your body. You do that, and you'll be quit. Will you follow that advice? That's the only real decision you have to make. Living with a decision not to dip can be a flat out bitch at times. If you decide to post with us, you'll be offered a ton of ways to help you cope successfully with your decision. Heck, our forums are open, so lurk away if you are interested. But, you have to FIRST decide what it means to quit, and if that's what you WILL be.
Be warned, that "sappy" feeling will fade away soon. Everything will soon seem fine, and you'll decide that "maybe after new Year's" will be a better time for this quit thing. Next thing you know, you'll be bawling (not balling, no homo) in Feb about another wasted year, and vow that you haven't lived up to.
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: Bigtuna77 on October 01, 2013, 09:20:00 AM
Hey thanks guys for the responses. I posted roll on the December 2013 roll call because I cannot find one for January 2014 yet. Am I missing something? I never claimed to be smart.
Anyway I'm on day two and doing pretty good. Isn't nearly as bad as yesterday. Got the kids off to school no problem. Not even a minor blow up. I did have a pretty good melt down yesterday evening. Throwing things and the whole nine yards!! But no one was around so it didn't even count. Kind of like the tree falling in a forest.
So I've been drinking alot of water. Staying real busy doing stuff the wife doesn't feel like doing. She told me yesterday that if I was going to be a dick while trying to quit, to just go ahead and dip!! How's that for support??
Well, that's it for now. Keep me straight if I post something out of line. I have read the welcome pages, but like I said before, my brain is a little soft.
Thanks, Russ
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: billybill3934 on October 01, 2013, 09:27:00 AM
Quote from: Bigtuna77
Hey thanks guys for the responses. I posted roll on the December 2013 roll call because I cannot find one for January 2014 yet. Am I missing something? I never claimed to be smart.
Anyway I'm on day two and doing pretty good. Isn't nearly as bad as yesterday. Got the kids off to school no problem. Not even a minor blow up. I did have a pretty good melt down yesterday evening. Throwing things and the whole nine yards!! But no one was around so it didn't even count. Kind of like the tree falling in a forest.
So I've been drinking alot of water. Staying real busy doing stuff the wife doesn't feel like doing. She told me yesterday that if I was going to be a dick while trying to quit, to just go ahead and dip!! How's that for support??
Well, that's it for now. Keep me straight if I post something out of line. I have read the welcome pages, but like I said before, my brain is a little soft.
Thanks, Russ
Looks like you're getting the hang of it! I sent you a message yesterday so I hope you got a chance to read it. Here is the link to the Jan 2014 HOF -----Click (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8847)
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: billybill3934 on October 01, 2013, 09:40:00 AM
Quote from: Bigtuna77
Hey thanks guys for the responses. I posted roll on the December 2013 roll call because I cannot find one for January 2014 yet. Am I missing something? I never claimed to be smart.
Anyway I'm on day two and doing pretty good. Isn't nearly as bad as yesterday. Got the kids off to school no problem. Not even a minor blow up. I did have a pretty good melt down yesterday evening. Throwing things and the whole nine yards!! But no one was around so it didn't even count. Kind of like the tree falling in a forest.
So I've been drinking alot of water. Staying real busy doing stuff the wife doesn't feel like doing. She told me yesterday that if I was going to be a dick while trying to quit, to just go ahead and dip!! How's that for support??
Well, that's it for now. Keep me straight if I post something out of line. I have read the welcome pages, but like I said before, my brain is a little soft.
Thanks, Russ
I broke my wifes laptop screen in my first week of quitting and just got it replaced last week. I would do it again too if that meant I stay quit. No matter what anyone says or does you have to remember that you are quitting for you and that's it, you can't expect the people around you that you have lied to and that have seen you fail so many times to just be all supportive and think this time it's for real. My wife didn't start supporting my quit until two weeks ago when she finally realized quitting is a part of my life now just like taxes and death, you have to live your quit every day Tuna. Keep up the quit!
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: traumagnet on October 01, 2013, 11:02:00 AM
Nice Mr Tuna man... the quit is for you first don't give in to such enticements from people and folks around you. All you have to do is keep quit for today only and you. Post roll give us your word accountability will come from us drink the Kool-Aid baby. You goal mission is to work for a change in mindset that you can do life without poison. Embrace the suck bro...you have my digits use them.
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: bigbamadan on October 01, 2013, 11:47:00 AM
Quote from: Bigtuna77
Hey thanks guys for the responses. I posted roll on the December 2013 roll call because I cannot find one for January 2014 yet. Am I missing something? I never claimed to be smart.
Anyway I'm on day two and doing pretty good. Isn't nearly as bad as yesterday. Got the kids off to school no problem. Not even a minor blow up. I did have a pretty good melt down yesterday evening. Throwing things and the whole nine yards!! But no one was around so it didn't even count. Kind of like the tree falling in a forest.
So I've been drinking alot of water. Staying real busy doing stuff the wife doesn't feel like doing. She told me yesterday that if I was going to be a dick while trying to quit, to just go ahead and dip!! How's that for support??
Well, that's it for now. Keep me straight if I post something out of line. I have read the welcome pages, but like I said before, my brain is a little soft.
Thanks, Russ
tuna...you are not trying to quit. You are quitting. Don't forget that. A positive mental attitude can be the thing that makes your quit successful.
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: CaliforniaSlim on October 01, 2013, 11:52:00 AM
Keep it up Tuna. I didn't get much support from my wife at first either. All I can say is get on here and bitch. We get it and understand what you are dealing with. Recognize the rage or irritability is the nic bitch trying to get you to cave. When you see that, you can better focus the anger on the evil can, or yourself for having given yourself such a stupid addiction.
There is a spousal support thing in the welcome center.
Stay strong and stay quit.
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: Derk40 on October 01, 2013, 01:23:00 PM
Just catching up with your intro Tuna. Nice job posting roll today bro!

This place is for you to vent, so let it out. We like it raw and unfiltered. The goal of letting it out is so you don't let it out on your wife and kids.

Remember, you are the guy that made the decision to use this crap... they don't deserve a to be beat up for it. That said... it will happen, but try to learn from it  it will get better. You just have to power thru this time. Don't listen to your wife's comment -- that is her anger talking.

For now, embrace this suck... try to relax and keep occupied. Do whatever it takes in order to stay quit today. I mean whatever... everything is on the table. You need to scream at us... that is why we are here. You can do this! Quit with you today!
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: Bigtuna77 on October 01, 2013, 04:15:00 PM
Thanks again guys. Believe it or not I'm still doing pretty good. Stopped by the convenience store and bought some more sugarless gum and other stuff to keep me occupied. Took my brother to the Mexican restaurant for his birthday. Even had a couple of beers while he smoked away on his cigs. Didn't cave. Went to the tobacco / beer store for an 18 pack. Didn't cave! Kinda proud of those two feats! The wife just doesn't understand. I can't hold that against her. She's Never had anything get a hold of her like a delicious can of Kodiak. She doesn't understand and I can't explain it, so F it. You all know where I'm coming from!! And for that I'm grateful.
Took out my Trans Am for some anxiety release. Gave her hell through 2nd,3rd, and 4th. 1st is too many rpms. Better than rubbing one out if you ask me! Thanks for letting me vent. I'll check in later!
Sincerely. Russ. "Big Tuna Vagina"
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: Derk40 on October 01, 2013, 04:20:00 PM
Quote from: Bigtuna77
Thanks again guys. Believe it or not I'm still doing pretty good. Stopped by the convenience store and bought some more sugarless gum and other stuff to keep me occupied. Took my brother to the Mexican restaurant for his birthday. Even had a couple of beers while he smoked away on his cigs. Didn't cave. Went to the tobacco / beer store for an 18 pack. Didn't cave! Kinda proud of those two feats! The wife just doesn't understand. I can't hold that against her. She's Never had anything get a hold of her like a delicious can of Kodiak. She doesn't understand and I can't explain it, so F it. You all know where I'm coming from!! And for that I'm grateful.
Took out my Trans Am for some anxiety release. Gave her hell through 2nd,3rd, and 4th. 1st is too many rpms. Better than rubbing one out if you ask me! Thanks for letting me vent. I'll check in later!
Sincerely. Russ. "Big Tuna Vagina"
Tuna, way to hang tight  quit.

My recommendation is to take it ez on the booze intake early on here. Couple of beers at lunch  now an 18 pack... EZ big fella. Too much booze will lower your inhibitions  many folks have lost their quit  claimed the dreaded Alcohol did them in. There will be a time when you are ready, but this early in your quit -- I advise you severely limit intake.

Quit with you today BT!
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: 30isEnuff on October 01, 2013, 04:35:00 PM
Quote from: derk40
Quote from: Bigtuna77
Thanks again guys.  Believe it or not I'm still doing pretty good. Stopped by the convenience store and bought some more sugarless gum and other stuff to keep me occupied. Took my brother to the Mexican restaurant for his birthday. Even had a couple of beers while he smoked away on his cigs. Didn't cave. Went to the tobacco / beer store for an 18 pack. Didn't cave! Kinda proud of those two feats! The wife just doesn't understand. I can't hold that against her. She's Never had anything get a hold of her like a delicious can of Kodiak. She doesn't understand and I can't explain it, so F it. You all know where I'm coming from!! And for that I'm grateful.
Took out my Trans Am for some anxiety release. Gave her hell through 2nd,3rd, and 4th. 1st is too many rpms. Better than rubbing one out if you ask me! Thanks for letting me vent. I'll check in later!
Sincerely. Russ. "Big Tuna Vagina"
Tuna, way to hang tight  quit.

My recommendation is to take it ez on the booze intake early on here. Couple of beers at lunch  now an 18 pack... EZ big fella. Too much booze will lower your inhibitions  many folks have lost their quit  claimed the dreaded Alcohol did them in. There will be a time when you are ready, but this early in your quit -- I advise you severely limit intake.

Quit with you today BT!
Big T,
You can do this...but you're gonna have to reeeeeaaaallllllyyyy want to be quit every damn day. We do this ODAAT (one day at a time).
We post roll between first piss of the day and shit shower and shave!
We don't fuck around cause we know we are addicts and cannot have one.
1 is too many and 10,000 dips is never enuff.
There are many powerful things to read here on this site. There are many powerful bad ass men of quit here at this site. Just remember 1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems.
Do whatever it takes to "not" put the Poison in your mouth...candy, gum, water, exercise, scream, cuss, shoot cans, drive fast carefully, brush teeth a lot, get into chat and let it all out...One day at a time and the dumbass dipper becomes a smartass quitter!
Bring it on BigT. ODAAT and NAFAR!
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: Pinched on October 01, 2013, 04:37:00 PM
Quote from: derk40
Quote from: Bigtuna77
Thanks again guys.  Believe it or not I'm still doing pretty good. Stopped by the convenience store and bought some more sugarless gum and other stuff to keep me occupied. Took my brother to the Mexican restaurant for his birthday. Even had a couple of beers while he smoked away on his cigs. Didn't cave. Went to the tobacco / beer store for an 18 pack. Didn't cave! Kinda proud of those two feats! The wife just doesn't understand. I can't hold that against her. She's Never had anything get a hold of her like a delicious can of Kodiak. She doesn't understand and I can't explain it, so F it. You all know where I'm coming from!! And for that I'm grateful.
Took out my Trans Am for some anxiety release. Gave her hell through 2nd,3rd, and 4th. 1st is too many rpms. Better than rubbing one out if you ask me! Thanks for letting me vent. I'll check in later!
Sincerely. Russ. "Big Tuna Vagina"
Tuna, way to hang tight  quit.

My recommendation is to take it ez on the booze intake early on here. Couple of beers at lunch  now an 18 pack... EZ big fella. Too much booze will lower your inhibitions  many folks have lost their quit  claimed the dreaded Alcohol did them in. There will be a time when you are ready, but this early in your quit -- I advise you severely limit intake.

Quit with you today BT!
Hey BigTuna, I highly recommend the following read for spousal support to help other identify with what you are experiencing:

KTC Spousal Support (http://www.killthecan.org/community/spousal-support/)
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: srans on October 02, 2013, 10:04:00 AM
Congrats on your quit so far my friend. I'm sorry but i've got to be real with you for a second. It's time to began getting that mind right!!
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couple of beers while he smoked away on his cigs.
Take this quit serious brother. Don't think for one second you own this quit yet. I've seen to many with a lot more days than you cave. The poison is no joke. It will probe until it finds your weakness.
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delicious can of Kodiak.
The taste of kodiak and any other form of poison is the taste of death. Think back to that first time you spent time with the poison. It turned your stomach inside out. It tastes like sh--T!! Start building a hate for the poison my friend. There is nothing delicious about it. It tastes, smells and looks like death. Read my signature line.
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She doesn't understand and I can't explain it
My wife didn't understand neither. It was sometime in my quit before I began gaining control of my emotions. Get your wife involved in your quit. Have her read the spousal support link. She will be a very important part of your quit. My wife held me the most accountable and helped me. She knew when to give me space and when I needed help. You need another number let me know.
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: B-loMatt on October 02, 2013, 10:22:00 AM
You are getting good advice here, but it is up to you to listen. Sounds to me like you could benefit from a little reading in the welcome center and words of wisdom sections. Getting drunk and romanticizing the poison is a big time danger to your quit no matter how many days quit you are. This is no joke and one cave can make you a slave again...
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: Bigtuna77 on October 02, 2013, 11:55:00 AM
I'd like to respond to each of you, but there's a lot of good stuff coming my way. And I really appreciate that.
I'll just say, this morning, day 3, was a little rough. Last night I felt like I was sleeping with my eyes open. Don't feel rested at all today. Still feel empty. Did some errands for the wife, took a walk, and had alot of water. That helped.
I go back to work tomorrow after being off for 14 days. That should keep me busy. I know it sounds strange, but after about 3 days alone, I really miss my family not being here. That's part of my slump today.
Anyhow, about the beers for lunch. That probably was a little risque. I used to smoke full time, but now the thought of it makes me queasy. I can't wait till the day the thought of dip makes me feel that way.
Just to let you all know, I did not drink the 18 pack last night. That will last me three weeks. I live in a dry county so had to stock up while I was out.
Otherwise I'm doing pretty good. Thanks for checking on me. The wife is being supportive now as well. She didn't think I was serious. After I told her I promised my son, she knows now it's no joke.
Did I mention I quit using dip from Jan 1st 2009 till Jan 1st 2010? Just quit on a whim. Started back only because I was tired of not dipping. What a dumbass!
Tuna
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: srans on October 02, 2013, 12:33:00 PM
Quote from: Bigtuna77
I'd like to respond to each of you, but there's a lot of good stuff coming my way. And I really appreciate that.
I'll just say, this morning, day 3, was a little rough. Last night I felt like I was sleeping with my eyes open. Don't feel rested at all today. Still feel empty. Did some errands for the wife, took a walk, and had alot of water. That helped.
I go back to work tomorrow after being off for 14 days. That should keep me busy. I know it sounds strange, but after about 3 days alone, I really miss my family not being here. That's part of my slump today.
Anyhow, about the beers for lunch. That probably was a little risque. I used to smoke full time, but now the thought of it makes me queasy. I can't wait till the day the thought of dip makes me feel that way.
Just to let you all know, I did not drink the 18 pack last night. That will last me three weeks. I live in a dry county so had to stock up while I was out.
Otherwise I'm doing pretty good. Thanks for checking on me. The wife is being supportive now as well. She didn't think I was serious. After I told her I promised my son, she knows now it's no joke.
Did I mention I quit using dip from Jan 1st 2009 till Jan 1st 2010? Just quit on a whim. Started back only because I was tired of not dipping. What a dumbass!
Tuna
I was about 40 days quit and my wife made a statement that demonstrated her belief/sceptism. She stated "your really quitting aren't you". It will take time, but your wife's faith in your quit will grow as the days add. Quit on my friend.
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: 30isEnuff on October 02, 2013, 04:55:00 PM
Quote from: srans
Quote from: Bigtuna77
I'd like to respond to each of you, but there's a lot of good stuff coming my way. And I really appreciate that.
I'll just say, this morning, day 3, was a little rough. Last night I felt like I was sleeping with my eyes open. Don't feel rested at all today. Still feel empty. Did some errands for the wife, took a walk, and had alot of water. That helped.
I go back to work tomorrow after being off for 14 days. That should keep me busy. I know it sounds strange, but after about 3 days alone, I really miss my family not being here. That's part of my slump today.
Anyhow, about the beers for lunch. That probably was a little risque. I used to smoke full time, but now the thought of it makes me queasy. I can't wait till the day the thought of dip makes me feel that way.
Just to let you all know, I did not drink the 18 pack last night. That will last me three weeks. I live in a dry county so had to stock up while I was out.
Otherwise I'm doing pretty good. Thanks for checking on me. The wife is being supportive now as well. She didn't think I was serious. After I told her I promised my son, she knows now it's no joke.
Did I mention I quit using dip from Jan 1st 2009 till Jan 1st 2010? Just quit on a whim. Started back only because I was tired of not dipping. What a dumbass!
Tuna
I was about 40 days quit and my wife made a statement that demonstrated her belief/sceptism. She stated "your really quitting aren't you". It will take time, but your wife's faith in your quit will grow as the days add. Quit on my friend.
Come on Tuna Dude.
You want a medal for Jan 1st 2009 till Jan 1st 2010?

Really? You Started back only because You were tired of not dipping?

I'm tired of not having a month long vacation...think I'll take it now.
I'm tired of not being a millionaire...think I'll be one now.
I'm tired of not setting a world record for bench pressing...I'll do it now.

Duuuuuuuuudddddeeeee, You're an addict to "nicotine" or you would not be here.
Please, you have taken breaks from dipping...you NEVER quit. There is a HUGE difference.
When you realize that it is poison and learn to hate every aspect of it like you would hate putting cat shit in your mouth, then you're on your way to being quit! Til then brother...you gotta lay off anything that will weaken your resolve...we are human, not superman. If we were superman we would have never became addicted to the poison, period.
Read for 2 hours here daily. Get your quit on!
Post roll...the earlier the better for your quit.
Keep your word...your word is good, right?
Get to bed, wake and repeat!

Works for me and 10,000 other quitters here.
One day at a time...just do today.
Cheers.
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: Bigtuna77 on October 03, 2013, 11:32:00 AM
Day 5. Still doing okay. Cravings are not bad. I just feel like a big turd I've searched for some advice on this and I should probably post it somewhere other than my intro, but here goes:

Can't sleep. Maybe 4 hours total the last two nights. Stomach feels like I'm hungry, but I had plenty to eat.

Have to piss about 6 times a night. Definitely killing the sleeping. I guess it's because I'm not filling up 6 spit bottles a day!

I read on here that nicotine is a laxative. Well by now I should be nic free and I got the "through the screen door" poopies. Maybe just nerves.

Still a little blue but feeling some better. I always cheer up when the kids get home from school.

Well thanks. How are you all doing? I'm being selfish here.

Russ
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: CaliforniaSlim on October 03, 2013, 12:10:00 PM
Quote from: Bigtuna77
Day 5. Still doing okay. Cravings are not bad. I just feel like a big turd I've searched for some advice on this and I should probably post it somewhere other than my intro, but here goes:

Can't sleep. Maybe 4 hours total the last two nights. Stomach feels like I'm hungry, but I had plenty to eat.

Have to piss about 6 times a night. Definitely killing the sleeping. I guess it's because I'm not filling up 6 spit bottles a day!

I read on here that nicotine is a laxative. Well by now I should be nic free and I got the "through the screen door" poopies. Maybe just nerves.

Still a little blue but feeling some better. I always cheer up when the kids get home from school.

Well thanks. How are you all doing? I'm being selfish here.

Russ
Tuna,
Nothing selfish about what you are doing. That is exactly what your thread is for. Document your thoughts and feelings, so you have it recorded for posterity, remember the misery you are going through so as not to do it again, and perhaps most importantly, put it out there for the KTC brothers to nudge, push, or kick you if you are veering off the path.

GOod news for you brother. You are walking right along the path. Yep, it's muddy and hard to get a foothold at the beginning, but you are heading the right direction. Keep moving.

Read intros. I think I posted 2 or 3 times about my not being able to sleep. It is part of the process.

Bowels get weird in the beginning of the quit. Some folks get stopped up, I was like you, what I like to call extra-regular.

Keep it up. I am quit with you today. You reminded me of the early misery and how great it is to be quit.
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: dunlapsig on October 03, 2013, 12:33:00 PM
Quote from: CaliforniaSlim
Quote from: Bigtuna77
Day 5. Still doing okay. Cravings are not bad. I just feel like a big turd I've searched for some advice on this and I should probably post it somewhere other than my intro, but here goes:

Can't sleep. Maybe 4 hours total the last two nights. Stomach feels like I'm hungry, but I had plenty to eat.

Have to piss about 6 times a night. Definitely killing the sleeping. I guess it's because I'm not filling up 6 spit bottles a day!

I read on here that nicotine is a laxative. Well by now I should be nic free and I got the "through the screen door" poopies. Maybe just nerves.

Still a little blue but feeling some better. I always cheer up when the kids get home from school.

Well thanks. How are you all doing? I'm being selfish here.

Russ
Tuna,
Nothing selfish about what you are doing. That is exactly what your thread is for. Document your thoughts and feelings, so you have it recorded for posterity, remember the misery you are going through so as not to do it again, and perhaps most importantly, put it out there for the KTC brothers to nudge, push, or kick you if you are veering off the path.

GOod news for you brother. You are walking right along the path. Yep, it's muddy and hard to get a foothold at the beginning, but you are heading the right direction. Keep moving.

Read intros. I think I posted 2 or 3 times about my not being able to sleep. It is part of the process.

Bowels get weird in the beginning of the quit. Some folks get stopped up, I was like you, what I like to call extra-regular.

Keep it up. I am quit with you today. You reminded me of the early misery and how great it is to be quit.
Russ I'm on Day 10 here so i'm a little ahead but still have some of the effects as well. If you search my intro I was just the opposite. Completely backed up for what felt like an eternity. I've never heard the description of "through the screen door" but will go on record and say i'll probably use it before the end of the week.

Cali's descpription of muddy sounds like it applies in more ways then one... 'arse'

I felt the same way about food though. I've just been chewing gum and trying to eat the same amount I was eating before to tough it out. I had cravings for sweets at night and I don't eat sweets... ever.

Keep the quit going and reach out to me if you need any help. Sounds like you are making it but we all know this isn't easy. I quit with you today.
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: PATRONSAINT on October 03, 2013, 12:54:00 PM
Quote from: Bigtuna77
Day 5. Still doing okay. Cravings are not bad. I just feel like a big turd I've searched for some advice on this and I should probably post it somewhere other than my intro, but here goes:

Can't sleep. Maybe 4 hours total the last two nights. Stomach feels like I'm hungry, but I had plenty to eat.

Have to piss about 6 times a night. Definitely killing the sleeping. I guess it's because I'm not filling up 6 spit bottles a day!

I read on here that nicotine is a laxative. Well by now I should be nic free and I got the "through the screen door" poopies. Maybe just nerves.

Still a little blue but feeling some better. I always cheer up when the kids get home from school.

Well thanks. How are you all doing? I'm being selfish here.

Russ
Hang in there Russ, this is day 5 for me as well!! I've had some serious heartburn and throwing up...and I know it's from the Copenhagen. Sure, I still have cravings; but I'm in this to QUIT, not give up. You can make it Russ, I believe in you! You tell that garbage can of crap YOU'RE DONE!! I QUIT WITH YOU TODAY!!
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: Mike from AB on October 03, 2013, 11:42:00 PM
Welcome Russ, just getting caught up on your quit here, congrats on 5 days quit! Awesome work so far. The symptoms sound pretty normal, all round. If it gets to be too much just get that TransAm out again  burn through some gas! There's a healthy release. My 89 5.0 hasn't burnt through so much gas as in the last month :D
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: Bigtuna77 on October 04, 2013, 02:19:00 PM
Thanks Mike for the reply. I'm doing a little better today. Seems like the fog has lifted some. I entertained my kids and another kid friend last night, so that helped keep my mind occupied. Not to mention they wore my old ass down!
Today is day six. I did get a decent nights sleep last night. I didn't even feel that crappy at 0445. I'm just totally amazed at how bad it physically made me feel to get those toxins out of my system. I think it was good for me to feel so bad. I don't want to go through this crap again!!
Well, that's my update for today. How is everyone else?
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: CaliforniaSlim on October 04, 2013, 04:51:00 PM
Quote from: Bigtuna77
Thanks Mike for the reply. I'm doing a little better today. Seems like the fog has lifted some. I entertained my kids and another kid friend last night, so that helped keep my mind occupied. Not to mention they wore my old ass down!
Today is day six. I did get a decent nights sleep last night. I didn't even feel that crappy at 0445. I'm just totally amazed at how bad it physically made me feel to get those toxins out of my system. I think it was good for me to feel so bad. I don't want to go through this crap again!!
Well, that's my update for today. How is everyone else?
Great attitude. Yes, it is weird how miserable that detox part can be, and yes, lick that misery into your memory banks to pull out whenever the craves show up. You don't want to do that again.

Stay strong and stay quit.
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: traumagnet on October 04, 2013, 11:46:00 PM
This will sound dumb but u wanna clear fog cranberry juice by the jug full. Days I skipped my drank yep my drank of cranberry juice I slipped back into the fog
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: Punkin on October 05, 2013, 12:39:00 AM
Just now reading your story Big tuna. Stay strong man. I'm on day 7 of my quit as of today. I quit with you brother.
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: Sportster4Ever on October 05, 2013, 02:51:00 AM
Day 12... hoping it is continuing to get better. At 11 I have had anger problems but I am feeling alive full of life and feeling. I am quit with you man!
Sportster4Ever
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: Mike from AB on October 05, 2013, 10:01:00 AM
Quote from: Bigtuna77
Thanks Mike for the reply. I'm doing a little better today. Seems like the fog has lifted some. I entertained my kids and another kid friend last night, so that helped keep my mind occupied. Not to mention they wore my old ass down!
Today is day six. I did get a decent nights sleep last night. I didn't even feel that crappy at 0445. I'm just totally amazed at how bad it physically made me feel to get those toxins out of my system. I think it was good for me to feel so bad. I don't want to go through this crap again!!
Well, that's my update for today. How is everyone else?
It's hard to go through, there's no denying it. But at only day 6 you're showing great insight already. Yes it is good to go through feeling so bad, because you're right, you don't want to do this ever again. Have a great weekend  enjoy those kids!
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: Bigtuna77 on October 05, 2013, 04:03:00 PM
Quote from: Punkin
Just now reading your story Big tuna. Stay strong man. I'm on day 7 of my quit as of today. I quit with you brother.
Thanks Punkin. Glad to be involved in this with you! Day 7 baby!!
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: Bigtuna77 on October 05, 2013, 04:06:00 PM
Quote from: Sportster4Ever
Day 12... hoping it is continuing to get better. At 11 I have had anger problems but I am feeling alive full of life and feeling. I am quit  with you man!
Sportster4Ever
Thanks sportster. You're rock solid, man! Keep on keepin on!
Tuna.
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: Bigtuna77 on October 05, 2013, 04:34:00 PM
Day 7 today. At work, so the weekend is having no affect on my quit. I'm still holding strong. Just a little fog (might be work induced!) and my stomach is still wacky. Some pepto seems to be helping.
I have two more days of work, then I'm off on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. Think I'm taking the family to Nashville. Surely we can find something to do there. I'm really looking forward to it.
Had thoughts today of what it's going to be like to watch my beloved Bears and UK play without a dip. How about morel hunting this spring without a dip? You know what? It's going to be just great.....I'm done with the nicotine shit! I'll feel better, act better, and won't look (as) foolish as I would have with the big wad of "poop" (as my kids call it) in my lip!!
Well, that's my rant for today. I wish you quitters and soon to be quitters the best!
Tuna
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: KC_Guy on October 05, 2013, 09:15:00 PM
Quote from: Bigtuna77
Day 7 today. At work, so the weekend is having no affect on my quit. I'm still holding strong. Just a little fog (might be work induced!) and my stomach is still wacky. Some pepto seems to be helping.
I have two more days of work, then I'm off on Tuesday, Wednesday, and Thursday. Think I'm taking the family to Nashville. Surely we can find something to do there. I'm really looking forward to it.
Had thoughts today of what it's going to be like to watch my beloved Bears and UK play without a dip. How about morel hunting this spring without a dip? You know what? It's going to be just great.....I'm done with the nicotine shit! I'll feel better, act better, and won't look (as) foolish as I would have with the big wad of "poop" (as my kids call it) in my lip!!
Well, that's my rant for today. I wish you quitters and soon to be quitters the best!
Tuna
I tell ya what tuna. I have watched my beloved Chiefs without dip. It's awesome not having to look for a spitter or worry about having enough poison before the game starts. I cant wait to watch my beloved Jayhawks without dip too. Sure I still pound seeds like no other. But the poison hasnt touched my lips for damn near 140 days. It feels great brother. Stay strong and stay true to the KTC process. You got this man.
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: Bigtuna77 on October 06, 2013, 01:45:00 PM
Quit one week ago today. Have felt pretty good all day long. Our first Sunday back at work, we always eat steaks and have a big meal. So today I had a huge salad, huge ribeye, and huge baked potato. (Said no to the dessert.)
Quick thought of nicotine, but found the happy place in my soft brain and went there. Real proud of that.
So I finally feel like there's some healing going on. I wish you quitters a good day. It's about 30 degrees colder here today than yesterday. Awesome football watching weather! GO BEARS!
Tuna.
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: Punkin on October 06, 2013, 09:40:00 PM
Quote from: Bigtuna77
Quit one week ago today. Have felt pretty good all day long. Our first Sunday back at work, we always eat steaks and have a big meal. So today I had a huge salad, huge ribeye, and huge baked potato. (Said no to the dessert.)
Quick thought of nicotine, but found the happy place in my soft brain and went there. Real proud of that.
So I finally feel like there's some healing going on. I wish you quitters a good day. It's about 30 degrees colder here today than yesterday. Awesome football watching weather! GO BEARS!
Tuna.
Hell yeah Tuna. Quitting like a boss and making nic YOUR bitch instead of the other way around. 'oh yeah'
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: Bigtuna77 on October 14, 2013, 11:32:00 AM
Hello everyone. Day 16 into my quit. I had a few things to share with you guys.
First off, I made it through three 12 hour night shifts nicotine free. I was worried about the cravings on night shift. It's been about 3 weeks since I've worked nights. It wasn't bad at all. Stayed somewhat busy. Walked alot to clear my head out.
The fog has almost lifted completely. From what I've read, it does come back occasionally, but man it's felt good to be able to think straight again. Energy level is up significantly. Body still hurts some, but I contribute most of that to being old and working a swing shift.
Here is the important thing I wanted to share. High on the list of reasons I wanted to quit dipping was to alleviate my stomach problems. Well, days and days after my quit date, I was still having trouble. Bloated, diarreah, indigestion, you name it. At first I contributed my trouble to withdraw symptoms. They didn't go away though. I was thinking about what else I'm doing different since my quit.......then it dawned on me.......chewing the hell out of sugarless gum and using the sugar free mints!!
So to try and speed up this long story, I did alot of research on the sugar substitutes used in gum, candy, etc. It can cause major stomach discomfort in some people. Xylitol, monotol, sorbitol. Check it out.
Two days without anything sugarless and my stomach is feeling great! I hope this information will help out some other people down the road. And I'm sure the sugar substitute has no affect on some people, but it definitely did on me.
Have a good day!
Tuna
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: traumagnet on October 14, 2013, 11:35:00 AM
Quote from: Bigtuna77
Hello everyone. Day 16 into my quit. I had a few things to share with you guys.
First off, I made it through three 12 hour night shifts nicotine free. I was worried about the cravings on night shift. It's been about 3 weeks since I've worked nights. It wasn't bad at all. Stayed somewhat busy. Walked alot to clear my head out.
The fog has almost lifted completely. From what I've read, it does come back occasionally, but man it's felt good to be able to think straight again. Energy level is up significantly. Body still hurts some, but I contribute most of that to being old and working a swing shift.
Here is the important thing I wanted to share. High on the list of reasons I wanted to quit dipping was to alleviate my stomach problems. Well, days and days after my quit date, I was still having trouble. Bloated, diarreah, indigestion, you name it. At first I contributed my trouble to withdraw symptoms. They didn't go away though. I was thinking about what else I'm doing different since my quit.......then it dawned on me.......chewing the hell out of sugarless gum and using the sugar free mints!!
So to try and speed up this long story, I did alot of research on the sugar substitutes used in gum, candy, etc. It can cause major stomach discomfort in some people. Xylitol, monotol, sorbitol. Check it out.
Two days without anything sugarless and my stomach is feeling great! I hope this information will help out some other people down the road. And I'm sure the sugar substitute has no affect on some people, but it definitely did on me.
Have a good day!
Tuna
Nice Dr Tuna for diagnosing yourself. Eliminate no pun intended the variables until you find the source. I see you are keeping strong...nice keep up the work and keep your word.
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: CaliforniaSlim on October 14, 2013, 11:36:00 AM
Quote from: Bigtuna77
Hello everyone. Day 16 into my quit. I had a few things to share with you guys.
First off, I made it through three 12 hour night shifts nicotine free. I was worried about the cravings on night shift. It's been about 3 weeks since I've worked nights. It wasn't bad at all. Stayed somewhat busy. Walked alot to clear my head out.
The fog has almost lifted completely. From what I've read, it does come back occasionally, but man it's felt good to be able to think straight again. Energy level is up significantly. Body still hurts some, but I contribute most of that to being old and working a swing shift.
Here is the important thing I wanted to share. High on the list of reasons I wanted to quit dipping was to alleviate my stomach problems. Well, days and days after my quit date, I was still having trouble. Bloated, diarreah, indigestion, you name it. At first I contributed my trouble to withdraw symptoms. They didn't go away though. I was thinking about what else I'm doing different since my quit.......then it dawned on me.......chewing the hell out of sugarless gum and using the sugar free mints!!
So to try and speed up this long story, I did alot of research on the sugar substitutes used in gum, candy, etc. It can cause major stomach discomfort in some people. Xylitol, monotol, sorbitol. Check it out.
Two days without anything sugarless and my stomach is feeling great! I hope this information will help out some other people down the road. And I'm sure the sugar substitute has no affect on some people, but it definitely did on me.
Have a good day!
Tuna
Nice Job Tuna!! you are winning. As that fog clears, you get to see the world in all its nic-free glory. Enjoy it.
Good job noticing what was working and not working for you.
Proud to be quit with you.
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: Mike from AB on October 14, 2013, 12:32:00 PM
Congrats on reaching day 16  for getting through those 3 long night shifts while staying quit! WTG!
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: Bigtuna77 on November 01, 2013, 04:37:00 PM
Thank you mike. I'm on day 34 now. Doing okay.
Quick question......anyone still have anxiety problems this far out? I find it hard to believe that nicotine kept me that much calmer and that this is normal. Anyone have any insight on this? I would super duper appreciate it!

Thanks,
Tuna
Title: Re: Hello. New feller here.
Post by: Mthomas3824 on November 01, 2013, 05:38:00 PM
Quote from: Bigtuna77
Thank you mike. I'm on day 34 now. Doing okay.
Quick question......anyone still have anxiety problems this far out? I find it hard to believe that nicotine kept me that much calmer and that this is normal. Anyone have any insight on this? I would super duper appreciate it!

Thanks,
Tuna
Welcome to fucking anxiety. Not sure how long you chewed but doing without the weed of excuses and blame...it good. Learning how to live life on life's terms....Glad you decided to grow up.

Not easy. Quitting is a process, recovery is an understanding. It does get easier with quitting nicotine. What is hard.....Recovery.

Just stay quit. Recovery is a process.....