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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: BradC87 on November 07, 2015, 10:59:00 AM
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My name is Brad and I had 3 months free from dip this time last year and then I told myself I'd "just buy one can". Here I am a year later and still struggling with the fear of putting down a little metal tin.
I am here for identification because I know you guys have done the same ridiculous things I have. Ie: sneaking around to get one more dip in, lying to loved ones, taking 1 hour bathroom time just to sneak a few extra moments in with the can, making up excuses to run to the store just to dip, switching from long cut to pouches because it seemed safer... And easier to take out if caught in the act, swallowing a mouthful of juice (cheeks fully distended) just so no one sees you spit and you have to speak, saying I'll quit on Monday AM, Sunday night, after this can is gone, Friday night, Wednesday at 3:35pm... All to no avail.
I chewed this morning and have since thrown out the can. Today is Day 1. I do not want to die as a result of a little metal can.
Brad
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My name is Brad and I had 3 months free from dip this time last year and then I told myself I'd "just buy one can". Here I am a year later and still struggling with the fear of putting down a little metal tin.
I am here for identification because I know you guys have done the same ridiculous things I have. Ie: sneaking around to get one more dip in, lying to loved ones, taking 1 hour bathroom time just to sneak a few extra moments in with the can, making up excuses to run to the store just to dip, switching from long cut to pouches because it seemed safer... And easier to take out if caught in the act, swallowing a mouthful of juice (cheeks fully distended) just so no one sees you spit and you have to speak, saying I'll quit on Monday AM, Sunday night, after this can is gone, Friday night, Wednesday at 3:35pm... All to no avail.
I chewed this morning and have since thrown out the can. Today is Day 1. I do not want to die as a result of a little metal can.
Brad
Brad, welcome to the site!
You're absolutely right. We DO understand, and we've done it all. We've taken the 3 showers a day just to get some more dip time in. We've taken the long way home in our vehicles just to suck on a wad of putrid tobacco a little longer. We've also all said we'll quit on days that just never seem to come. And the hiding it from loved ones...that's a small novel in and of itself.
Buuut, you're here now! That's great! As you found out, there is no such thing as "just one" for people like us. Not "just one" dip, "just one" cigarette, "just one" cigar, "just one" anything with nicotine in it.
Head to your quit group, February '16, and post roll with them! They will be a tremendous help to you!
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Brad, you'll fit right in. We all have stopped for a while, only to hear the siren song of nicotine and stuff our faces again. There is a method for success at KTC which you should use.
1. Get that can out of the trash and flush the contents down the toilet. (Total destruction saves dumpster diving later).
2. Go to the February 2016 quit group (you will get to 100 days in February with those bad ass quitters) and post roll. Roll is you promise to yourself and all here that you will not use nicotine for 24 hours. Repeat that promise by posting roll tomorrow morning and each tomorrow as it arrives.
3. Exchange digits with fellow quitters. People who you can text to get through a crave, or post roll if your computer crashes. Get to know these quitters. Alone is much harder way to quit.
4. Read this site, the hall of fame speeches, words of wisdom, other intros, and cancer stories. You will find quitters like you all over, and reduce the odds you will become one of the last group.
We don't worry about forever here, we quit one day at a time (ODAAT) which anyone can do. We quit every damn day (EDD) as soon as we wake in the morning.
For the next several days, your quit will suck followed by craves and fog. You can get through this even if it ends up hour by hour or minute by minute. Drink lots of water, exercise, post in your quit group, try the live chat (it can be empty on weekends) or even the emergency topic on the quit group page (yes, people monitor that to support your quit).
Congrats on a great decision to quit at KTC!
I quit with you today.
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Brad, saw you were trying to post roll... For now you can just get your name and days in a "reply" then figure out roll as you go. Also.. start at the highest numbered page for the current roll.
Quit on!
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Brad my new brother! Glad to see you on roll! Listen, read and read some more, post roll early and every damn day! You do that you will be successful! Damn proud of you! Quit on! Pm me for my number if you want.
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I'm dying to throw in a wad right now.
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I'm dying to throw in a wad right now.
So, just like that, the little cans gonna win? Grab your sac and man up! We all wanna throw a big fat wad in but I choose to live and you control your own destiny! I'm a man and I will continue to defeat this can one day at a time , because I posted roll early this morning, being a man of my word I will not dip today. Did I not see your name on roll?!
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I'm dying to throw in a wad right now.
You can't even make it a day? Take your can and get the fuck out of here.
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I'm dying to throw in a wad right now.
I was too on day 1. Change doesn't come all at once. It gets easier.
But you have to stand tall right the fuck now. That wad won't do anything good for you. Why did you quit in the first place?
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Brad,
We've all been there on day 1, get through the first 3 days and it will get easier. But, we do it one day at a time here at KTC.
I suggest you check this Contract To Give Up, http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures ... o-give-up/ (http://www.killthecan.org/facts-figures/contract-to-give-up/) -- if you agree with this, I don't know what to tell you.
I love dipping more than I love my family. I know this addiction will kill me, and I ACCEPT that fact. I enjoy spending time alone with my can more than I enjoy spending time with anyone else on the planet. I look forward to losing my jaw, my tongue, my throat, my life – it’s worth it. When I am lying in my hospital bed fighting a losing battle against cancer I will feel a sense of satisfaction knowing that this is the path I CHOSE.
If you really want to quit, you can quit. Don't throw in another dip for the rest of the day, you can focus on tomorrow when it comes. Thats really all there is to it.
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I didn't dip. Went shopping with the girlfriend and am actually fine. A bit foggy, but alive.
Thanks guys
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I didn't dip. Went shopping with the girlfriend and am actually fine. A bit foggy, but alive.
Thanks guys
That a boy! Proud of you! You are gonna have craves alot, go to your bedroom open dresser drawer insert your balls and slam the drawer,it will get your mind off the nic ,at least till the swelling goes down!
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I'll be damned if I'm going to continually be a slave and pussy out every time I feel discomfort. Fuck Skoal straight.
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I'll be damned if I'm going to continually be a slave and pussy out every time I feel discomfort. Fuck Skoal straight.
You might want to look into getting some alternative stuff to help you in the beginning part of your quit. For me it definitely helped make the first couple weeks easier. Or sunflower seeds but I was never a sunflower seed guy as I could never crack them neatly and would just end up chewing the whole damn handful of seeds.
Its going to be hard and its going to be tough. I quit with you today Brad. Make sure to post roll in your quit group as well.
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I'll be damned if I'm going to continually be a slave and pussy out every time I feel discomfort. Fuck Skoal straight.
You might want to look into getting some alternative stuff to help you in the beginning part of your quit. For me it definitely helped make the first couple weeks easier. Or sunflower seeds but I was never a sunflower seed guy as I could never crack them neatly and would just end up chewing the whole damn handful of seeds.
Its going to be hard and its going to be tough. I quit with you today Brad. Make sure to post roll in your quit group as well.
Gotta agree here. Fake chew will save you ass, especially if say 1 has been this tough. It's going to be hard but you're brain will rewire how it works and doing things you always used to do while dipping will slowly but surely get easier. Stay strong. Use your group members and vets to help ya through a crave.. Throw in coffee grounds, cotton balls, candy, seeds... Anything but dip. Eventually you'll only need a substitute occasionally but in the beginning use it as much and as often as needed
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I just left Walmart with my first ever can of Smokey Mountain. Have never tried this stuff before but I do know that nicotine replacement supplements have never worked. I vow to be nicotine free but think the herbal stuff may help. Anyway, I'm taking a new suggestion so we'll see how SMS goes.
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I just left Walmart with my first ever can of Smokey Mountain. Have never tried this stuff before but I do know that nicotine replacement supplements have never worked. I vow to be nicotine free but think the herbal stuff may help. Anyway, I'm taking a new suggestion so we'll see how SMS goes.
Fake is a good plan. Lots of us use it -- especially early in the quit. I use Oregon Mint ordered online. If you post that question in your forum, you will be amazed at the range of options.
The other thing is your need for the fake will fade away over time. No worries there.
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I just left Walmart with my first ever can of Smokey Mountain. Have never tried this stuff before but I do know that nicotine replacement supplements have never worked. I vow to be nicotine free but think the herbal stuff may help. Anyway, I'm taking a new suggestion so we'll see how SMS goes.
Fake is a good plan. Lots of us use it -- especially early in the quit. I use Oregon Mint ordered online. If you post that question in your forum, you will be amazed at the range of options.
The other thing is your need for the fake will fade away over time. No worries there.
Load up on seeds and gum as well. You may not need them right away but the variety will help. Water and exercise are your friends as well. Quit on!
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Brad, how is the Smokey Mountain working out for you? I and many other used that stuff to help out. Hopefully it is doing you some good!
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It's not bad. Definitely helps with the mental games. I don't see myself needing it much past the first week or two but for now one here or there is helping.
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Whatever it takes to keep the poison out of your face brother.
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Brad thank you my friend for posting roll and being a man of your word! You can do this, I'm not gonna sit here and sugar coat this because that would be a damn lie. To me it finally came down to the only way I can beat this shit is think about all the bad shit it's done to me and my family. I'm very much a family man, and I screwed them out of 31 year's of there father because I was a selfish prick! Now I have grandkids and they deserve better and I owe it to myself, this is my quit, I own it, it's my new way of life of choose to live one day at a time ! If I have to continue to post here till I die to stay quit then by God that's what I will do, one day at a time!
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Amen man. Yeah I am definitely working on emotionally connecting a cut-off, cancer ridden, speech-inhibiting, fucked up jaw to that little can. Still holding on just for today. I have 4 and a half years clean from booze and drugs and put down cigs 2 years ago when my mother was diagnosed with lung cancer. She has since passed on and always told me to quit the "chew tobacco". Now seems as good a time as any. I have lied to my girlfriend for too long.