KillTheCan.org Accountability Forum
Community => Introductions => Topic started by: natemcpherson on March 04, 2014, 11:08:00 PM
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Hi all. My name is Nate and I have been dipping for the past 7 years. I have tried countless times to quit and have never been able to stop for good. I need help. I've quit in the past for my wife and for others, but have never really done it for myself. I'm ready to stop and need your support. You will see me around here daily, now. I know I can't do this alone. I'll check in tomorrow!
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Check in tomorrow, but you stop dipping right now. Don't do a one-more-late night-dip then-I'll quit-tomorrow dip.
Flush that shit down the toilet now. See you tomorrow. You're in my group. Welcome aboard.
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Damn it, post roll!
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Damn it, post roll!
Fuck tomorrow. Like WT says, do it NOW.
FUCK
'bang head'
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Hey Nate - just wanted to say hello from a fellow day 30 kinda guy. Hope your cruising with your quit. I still struggle all day long but I'm certain I'll never dip again. I'm done after 37 pathetic years. Anyhoo I just wanted to say hello and let you know I'm right there with you brother.
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You're probably tired of hearing it but, yeah... Day 1 and 2 of quitting sucks. Might as well get that behind you sooner. I'm at day 6 quitting with you.
Zeke
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So you made it to day 70 and caved. Let's see, you had a couple posts in your intro and it looks like you had a difficult time getting connected. Posting Roll is a huge part of what makes this work but it is only a part. Brotherhood is the other part. Being involved with others not only helps them but it helps you.
I feel sad for you that you couldn't handle the stress of whatever is going on and caved but you should have used your tools.
The most important thing is to suck it up and get back on here. You will have to answer to June and August ( your new quit group).
You know the routine we have seen it enough in June.
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So you made it to day 70 and caved. Let's see, you had a couple posts in your intro and it looks like you had a difficult time getting connected. Posting Roll is a huge part of what makes this work but it is only a part. Brotherhood is the other part. Being involved with others not only helps them but it helps you.
I feel sad for you that you couldn't handle the stress of whatever is going on and caved but you should have used your tools.
The most important thing is to suck it up and get back on here. You will have to answer to June and August ( your new quit group).
You know the routine we have seen it enough in June.
70 days just got pissed on?
AJ shakes his head
Something didn't click for you in those 70 days? Unreal.
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So you made it to day 70 and caved. Let's see, you had a couple posts in your intro and it looks like you had a difficult time getting connected. Posting Roll is a huge part of what makes this work but it is only a part. Brotherhood is the other part. Being involved with others not only helps them but it helps you.
I feel sad for you that you couldn't handle the stress of whatever is going on and caved but you should have used your tools.
The most important thing is to suck it up and get back on here. You will have to answer to June and August ( your new quit group).
You know the routine we have seen it enough in June.
70 days just got pissed on?
AJ shakes his head
Something didn't click for you in those 70 days? Unreal.
'finger point' WTF. Answer the three and recommit to the quit.
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So you made it to day 70 and caved. Let's see, you had a couple posts in your intro and it looks like you had a difficult time getting connected. Posting Roll is a huge part of what makes this work but it is only a part. Brotherhood is the other part. Being involved with others not only helps them but it helps you.
I feel sad for you that you couldn't handle the stress of whatever is going on and caved but you should have used your tools.
The most important thing is to suck it up and get back on here. You will have to answer to June and August ( your new quit group).
You know the routine we have seen it enough in June.
70 days just got pissed on?
AJ shakes his head
Something didn't click for you in those 70 days? Unreal.
'finger point' WTF. Answer the three and recommit to the quit.
1). What happened?
2). Why did it happen?
3). What are you going to do differently next time?
Dig DEEP.
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I let myself, my wife, and you all down. I know what I need to do.
1) What happened? / 2) Why did it happen?
I can’t justify the slip. After 69 days (my longest quit in the last 6 years) I knowingly stopped doing what I had been doing (texting, pm’ing, posting roll, talking to someone each time I had the urge) because I forgot how badly I am an ADDICT. As I fell further away from the tools that had been working and my KTC brothers, I started feeling sorrier and sorrier for myself. I started thinking: “maybe I can smoke a cigar? Maybe I could puff a vaporizer? I’m addicted to chewing tobacco and cigarettes, but those other things are different”.....I thought to myself…I just need one day of nicotine, then I’ll be OK to quit for the rest of my life. Like I’ve ever done any drug one time ever.
Honestly, I bought that bullshit. Starting around day 45 – 50, I began falling away from the group. I stopped texting and wasn’t reaching out to my brothers. Each day, these thoughts grew louder in my mind. Over the weekend, for three consecutive days, I had made up my mind to buy a can, and I tried using ‘willpower’ to fight it off. Each day, after being convinced I was going to – I wouldn’t do it. One time I told my wife about my cravings, but the others, I kept it inside. Each day I got closer and I didn’t pick up the tools and contact my quit brothers.
On Sunday evening, after a full day of feeling so great to spend the day with my family and my mother, I went to the gas station and sat outside for five minutes, hating myself and knowing I was letting you all down. I did it anyways, telling myself it would just be this time. After it was in my mouth, I convinced myself that today really wasn’t a good day to quit. Tomorrow would be a much better day. So I continued into the next day. By that evening, I had convinced myself that Monday night wasn’t really a good time to quit and Tuesday would be much better. We all know how long this would have gone on for. Last night, something happened to stop the train – my wife called and asked me how my cravings for chewing tobacco had been going….She hadn’t asked me that out of the blue for weeks. I gave her a half-hearted ‘ehhhhh…’ while the dip was packed deep in my lip.
When I got home I broke down and told her the truth. She started crying and turned away from me. With my wife crying in the next room, I got on KTC and posted a brief response to you all, letting you know what happened. I failed you all.
3) What are you going to do to make sure you don't cave again?
KTC has been gotten me the longest quit of my entire chewing life. I know this is the only place where I can QUIT. I currently have 8 years of sobriety from alcohol and drugs besides caffeine and nicotine. I know that I am an ADDICT. I know my brain doesnÂ’t react to drugs like other people. I also know, that in order for me to stay quit, I need to get INVOLVED. The only way I quit alcohol was by getting fully immersed in AA. I need to do the same with KTC. I need to talk to people, on the phone, regularly. I need to volunteer (and follow through) with the group spreadsheet and other opportunities. I only texted guys sporadically during the past 70 days. This time is different. I am pissed at myself and pissed at nicotine. This time, I am quitting for MYSELF. Although knowing that I need to be there for my wife and my family is a motivator, I need to quit for myself. I am going to post conversation topics on the general discussion boards (which I never did before). I want you guys to get to know me and I want to know you. I canÂ’t live on the outside anymore. LAST DAY ONE.
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I let myself, my wife, and you all down. I know what I need to do.
1) What happened? / 2) Why did it happen?
I can’t justify the slip. After 69 days (my longest quit in the last 6 years) I knowingly stopped doing what I had been doing (texting, pm’ing, posting roll, talking to someone each time I had the urge) because I forgot how badly I am an ADDICT. As I fell further away from the tools that had been working and my KTC brothers, I started feeling sorrier and sorrier for myself. I started thinking: “maybe I can smoke a cigar? Maybe I could puff a vaporizer? I’m addicted to chewing tobacco and cigarettes, but those other things are different”.....I thought to myself…I just need one day of nicotine, then I’ll be OK to quit for the rest of my life. Like I’ve ever done any drug one time ever.
Honestly, I bought that bullshit. Starting around day 45 – 50, I began falling away from the group. I stopped texting and wasn’t reaching out to my brothers. Each day, these thoughts grew louder in my mind. Over the weekend, for three consecutive days, I had made up my mind to buy a can, and I tried using ‘willpower’ to fight it off. Each day, after being convinced I was going to – I wouldn’t do it. One time I told my wife about my cravings, but the others, I kept it inside. Each day I got closer and I didn’t pick up the tools and contact my quit brothers.
On Sunday evening, after a full day of feeling so great to spend the day with my family and my mother, I went to the gas station and sat outside for five minutes, hating myself and knowing I was letting you all down. I did it anyways, telling myself it would just be this time. After it was in my mouth, I convinced myself that today really wasn’t a good day to quit. Tomorrow would be a much better day. So I continued into the next day. By that evening, I had convinced myself that Monday night wasn’t really a good time to quit and Tuesday would be much better. We all know how long this would have gone on for. Last night, something happened to stop the train – my wife called and asked me how my cravings for chewing tobacco had been going….She hadn’t asked me that out of the blue for weeks. I gave her a half-hearted ‘ehhhhh…’ while the dip was packed deep in my lip.
When I got home I broke down and told her the truth. She started crying and turned away from me. With my wife crying in the next room, I got on KTC and posted a brief response to you all, letting you know what happened. I failed you all.
3) What are you going to do to make sure you don't cave again?
KTC has been gotten me the longest quit of my entire chewing life. I know this is the only place where I can QUIT. I currently have 8 years of sobriety from alcohol and drugs besides caffeine and nicotine. I know that I am an ADDICT. I know my brain doesnÂ’t react to drugs like other people. I also know, that in order for me to stay quit, I need to get INVOLVED. The only way I quit alcohol was by getting fully immersed in AA. I need to do the same with KTC. I need to talk to people, on the phone, regularly. I need to volunteer (and follow through) with the group spreadsheet and other opportunities. I only texted guys sporadically during the past 70 days. This time is different. I am pissed at myself and pissed at nicotine. This time, I am quitting for MYSELF. Although knowing that I need to be there for my wife and my family is a motivator, I need to quit for myself. I am going to post conversation topics on the general discussion boards (which I never did before). I want you guys to get to know me and I want to know you. I canÂ’t live on the outside anymore. LAST DAY ONE.
I'll let others chew on you if they so feel. I just wanna say one thing...
Own it.
Being sober for so long... you know exactly what that means.
Own. It.
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Good to see you back on roll. Use your tools and stay connected here.
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Yo Nate,
Sucks, dude. You caved. You must feel like shit.
Welp...a good thing came from your cave. I read your answers to the questions. I have felt just like you have. Toying with the idea of saying, "Fuck it. One more for old times sake." I'm sure many of us here in the 70-100 day range have had this thought.
Your cave post gave me a "Ghost of Christmas Future" boost in my quit. Fuck that, I ain't throwing this away. Thanks, brother.
You definitely need to keep your cave post handy. That's another tool you can use on your next day 70. Be a quit shepherd for the dudes in August, and share your cave post again on their Day 70.
PM me if you need digits. Don't give up. If a shufflefoot, sorry ass crack-head motherfucker like me can do this...you can.
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I agree. I choked up when I read the wife crying part. I am glad I read this.
FOR MY OWN benefit.
Now get up on that horse, were heading up north to put the word to the streets.
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Pull your Fucking head out of your ass and either commit to this fully or hit the bricks and stop wasting our time.
You know the answers. You know how to do this.
Stop giving in to addict logic. Time to put your big boy pants on and man the fuck up.
Putting that shit in your lip KNOWING you were Fucking all on this site is some rock bottom shit.
Time to rise the fuck up and be a man. No more BULLSHIT.
QUIT.
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Pull your Fucking head out of your ass and either commit to this fully or hit the bricks and stop wasting our time.
You know the answers. You know how to do this.
Stop giving in to addict logic. Time to put your big boy pants on and man the fuck up.
Putting that shit in your lip KNOWING you were Fucking all on this site is some rock bottom shit.
Time to rise the fuck up and be a man. No more BULLSHIT.
QUIT.
like the man said ^^^
Get busy living or get busy dying
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What... the... FUCK!?!?!?
I'll admit... you're going to get the brunt of something that's been bubbling up inside of me for a while. Not 100% of it is your fault per se, but you need to hear it cause you're part of it.
There are FAR too many people around these hallowed halls lately with this "better luck next time" attitude. Plain and simple, that doesn't cut it at KillTheCan.org. Its that bad ass attitude that has made us the best quit site on the web and the reason we're getting ready to crack 20,000 members.
I'm glad your wife was crying. I'm glad she doesn't think you can do it. I'm glad you've broken that trust with her and with us.
I'm glad because it's going to make it that much harder for you to succeed here.
However, what's I'm MOST glad about is that you seem to recognize how colossal of a fuck up you just completed. You also seem to realize what led you down a path back toward your addiction and you SEEM to be doing things to remedy that. Good on you. In your cave admission speech, you talk about how you stopped reaching out to your quit brothers and stopped texting. Send me a PM and you'll have my number as another number in your quit arsenal.
You made me go back and re-read this today - thank you for that. You just lit a fire under ol Chewie's ass.
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/04/chew ... ame-creed/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/04/chewies-hall-of-fame-creed/)
ChewieÂ’s Hall Of Fame Creed
I promise to remember the first 2 weeks of my quitÂ…
I promise to remember WHY I quit in the first placeÂ…
I promise to take things a day at a timeÂ…
I promise to recognize little successesÂ…
I promise to post roll on a regular basisÂ…
I promise to recognize those before meÂ…
I promise to recognize that I have great friends on KillTheCan.orgÂ…
I promise to REMEMBER why those people are my friend and what brought us togetherÂ…
I promise to have a way to get a hold of a brother and a way for others to get ahold of me (email, cell phone, etc.)
I promise that I wonÂ’t cave without getting permission from a quit brotherÂ…
I promise to recognize that there will always be a reason NOT to dipÂ…
I promise to be there for a brother in needÂ…
I promise that I wonÂ’t forget all IÂ’ve gone through to get to where I am today.
The POWER of KillTheCan.org is that we stand together. Don't be the guy that weakens the system by bringing weakness into the fold. Don't be the guy that does great time and time again through 70 days of quit only to come back and post another day 1.
Don't be that guy. I'll be waiting for your PM.
chewie
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What... the... FUCK!?!?!?
I'll admit... you're going to get the brunt of something that's been bubbling up inside of me for a while. Not 100% of it is your fault per se, but you need to hear it cause you're part of it.
There are FAR too many people around these hallowed halls lately with this "better luck next time" attitude. Plain and simple, that doesn't cut it at KillTheCan.org. Its that bad ass attitude that has made us the best quit site on the web and the reason we're getting ready to crack 20,000 members.
I'm glad your wife was crying. I'm glad she doesn't think you can do it. I'm glad you've broken that trust with her and with us.
I'm glad because it's going to make it that much harder for you to succeed here.
However, what's I'm MOST glad about is that you seem to recognize how colossal of a fuck up you just completed. You also seem to realize what led you down a path back toward your addiction and you SEEM to be doing things to remedy that. Good on you. In your cave admission speech, you talk about how you stopped reaching out to your quit brothers and stopped texting. Send me a PM and you'll have my number as another number in your quit arsenal.
You made me go back and re-read this today - thank you for that. You just lit a fire under ol Chewie's ass.
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/04/chew ... ame-creed/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/04/chewies-hall-of-fame-creed/)
ChewieÂ’s Hall Of Fame Creed
I promise to remember the first 2 weeks of my quitÂ…
I promise to remember WHY I quit in the first placeÂ…
I promise to take things a day at a timeÂ…
I promise to recognize little successesÂ…
I promise to post roll on a regular basisÂ…
I promise to recognize those before meÂ…
I promise to recognize that I have great friends on KillTheCan.orgÂ…
I promise to REMEMBER why those people are my friend and what brought us togetherÂ…
I promise to have a way to get a hold of a brother and a way for others to get ahold of me (email, cell phone, etc.)
I promise that I wonÂ’t cave without getting permission from a quit brotherÂ…
I promise to recognize that there will always be a reason NOT to dipÂ…
I promise to be there for a brother in needÂ…
I promise that I wonÂ’t forget all IÂ’ve gone through to get to where I am today.
The POWER of KillTheCan.org is that we stand together. Don't be the guy that weakens the system by bringing weakness into the fold. Don't be the guy that does great time and time again through 70 days of quit only to come back and post another day 1.
Don't be that guy. I'll be waiting for your PM.
chewie
Powerful message from Chewie. I needed this as well this morning. Live The Creed!
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What a joke
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What a joke
I won't trust a fucking word he says until he has triple digits.
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What... the... FUCK!?!?!?
I'll admit... you're going to get the brunt of something that's been bubbling up inside of me for a while. Not 100% of it is your fault per se, but you need to hear it cause you're part of it.
There are FAR too many people around these hallowed halls lately with this "better luck next time" attitude. Plain and simple, that doesn't cut it at KillTheCan.org. Its that bad ass attitude that has made us the best quit site on the web and the reason we're getting ready to crack 20,000 members.
I'm glad your wife was crying. I'm glad she doesn't think you can do it. I'm glad you've broken that trust with her and with us.
I'm glad because it's going to make it that much harder for you to succeed here.
However, what's I'm MOST glad about is that you seem to recognize how colossal of a fuck up you just completed. You also seem to realize what led you down a path back toward your addiction and you SEEM to be doing things to remedy that. Good on you. In your cave admission speech, you talk about how you stopped reaching out to your quit brothers and stopped texting. Send me a PM and you'll have my number as another number in your quit arsenal.
You made me go back and re-read this today - thank you for that. You just lit a fire under ol Chewie's ass.
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/04/chew ... ame-creed/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/04/chewies-hall-of-fame-creed/)
ChewieÂ’s Hall Of Fame Creed
I promise to remember the first 2 weeks of my quitÂ…
I promise to remember WHY I quit in the first placeÂ…
I promise to take things a day at a timeÂ…
I promise to recognize little successesÂ…
I promise to post roll on a regular basisÂ…
I promise to recognize those before meÂ…
I promise to recognize that I have great friends on KillTheCan.orgÂ…
I promise to REMEMBER why those people are my friend and what brought us togetherÂ…
I promise to have a way to get a hold of a brother and a way for others to get ahold of me (email, cell phone, etc.)
I promise that I wonÂ’t cave without getting permission from a quit brotherÂ…
I promise to recognize that there will always be a reason NOT to dipÂ…
I promise to be there for a brother in needÂ…
I promise that I wonÂ’t forget all IÂ’ve gone through to get to where I am today.
The POWER of KillTheCan.org is that we stand together. Don't be the guy that weakens the system by bringing weakness into the fold. Don't be the guy that does great time and time again through 70 days of quit only to come back and post another day 1.
Don't be that guy. I'll be waiting for your PM.
chewie
Powerful message from Chewie. I needed this as well this morning. Live The Creed!
I need to get this tattooed on my sack.... powerful stuff from Chewie.
Nate... take these posts to heart and lets get to quitting, balls out no excuses quit....
PM me as well, i'll stand with you if your ready to step up KTC style.
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I need to get this tattooed on my sack....
I don't believe you will 'cs'
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Congrats on day 8, Nate. So far you've been a man of your word. You've posted roll every day, you've texted me every day, and I can tell how serious you are about not caving again. Well done, Brother. I'm proud to quit with you today. Other cavers take notice. This is how you come back.
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I know many of you questioned my desire to quit (rightfully so), but I'm seriously done with this shit forever. Day 12. Looking to add as many phone numbers to my quit circle as possible. PM me if interested.
My new goal is to be so involved here and in the lives of my fellow quitters that caving is never a thought again.
I can't half ass this and I FINALLY understand that my life is on the line. I have tried quitting hundreds of times but didn't find KTC until March. Nicotine has NO benefit for me. I never truly believed that until this time.
I Quit with you all today and thank you for being hard on me. We can't take this lightly and I apologize for not taking my quit and the quits of my June brothers as seriously as I should have. Trying to be a leader in August.
-Nate
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Day 16 -
Why did I quit nicotine?
1) I lied to my wife constantly about it and protected my nic addiction over everything
2) I would find excuses to leave the house so I could dip and miss out on spending time with my family
3) I don't want to die from this shit
4) I COULD NOT stop. I tried probably 100 times on my own.
5) It limited the amount of time I would put into exercising and taking care of myself.
6) I spent thousands of dollars on tins
7) I would justify leaving work for 20 mins without letting anyone know where I was going so I could dip.
Those are just a few of the reasons i sought out KTC. I had no idea a site like this existed and I'm damn glad I found it. I'm not fucking around with my life again like I did in the june group. I'm here for keeps.
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Day 16 -
Why did I quit nicotine?
1) I lied to my wife constantly about it and protected my nic addiction over everything
2) I would find excuses to leave the house so I could dip and miss out on spending time with my family
3) I don't want to die from this shit
4) I COULD NOT stop. I tried probably 100 times on my own.
5) It limited the amount of time I would put into exercising and taking care of myself.
6) I spent thousands of dollars on tins
7) I would justify leaving work for 20 mins without letting anyone know where I was going so I could dip.
Those are just a few of the reasons i sought out KTC. I had no idea a site like this existed and I'm damn glad I found it. I'm not fucking around with my life again like I did in the june group. I'm here for keeps.
I have talked about how impressed I am with your new quit. You are doing great Nate. Keep it up dude.
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Day 16 -
Why did I quit nicotine?
1) I lied to my wife constantly about it and protected my nic addiction over everything
2) I would find excuses to leave the house so I could dip and miss out on spending time with my family
3) I don't want to die from this shit
4) I COULD NOT stop. I tried probably 100 times on my own.
5) It limited the amount of time I would put into exercising and taking care of myself.
6) I spent thousands of dollars on tins
7) I would justify leaving work for 20 mins without letting anyone know where I was going so I could dip.
Those are just a few of the reasons i sought out KTC. I had no idea a site like this existed and I'm damn glad I found it. I'm not fucking around with my life again like I did in the june group. I'm here for keeps.
I have talked about how impressed I am with your new quit. You are doing great Nate. Keep it up dude.
Keep kicking ass, Nate. I'm proud of you.
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So freaking grateful I found you all. Day 18 - just got a great text from Stig asking me what I was doing for my quit this weekend...
I realized I have some potential triggers going tomorrow - long work day and out of town. Wife will be out all night, too. Perfect recipe for my mind to start working on me. Well - I'm prepared for it and will text/post tomorrow to prevent crazy thoughts. Fuck nicotine.
Those of you in June who I started with and are approaching 100 days - I am so proud of you! Keep rolling and I am following you into the Hall!
Quit on guys! One day at a time.
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So freaking grateful I found you all. Day 18 - just got a great text from Stig asking me what I was doing for my quit this weekend...
I realized I have some potential triggers going tomorrow - long work day and out of town. Wife will be out all night, too. Perfect recipe for my mind to start working on me. Well - I'm prepared for it and will text/post tomorrow to prevent crazy thoughts. Fuck nicotine.
Those of you in June who I started with and are approaching 100 days - I am so proud of you! Keep rolling and I am following you into the Hall!
Quit on guys! One day at a time.
Just jumped on this thread.....Hmmmmm
Here's the deal.....funny thing......I think the first 100 may be the easiest.....coming up on 800.....its real easy to be like "wow, i made it this far....why not just one dip"
The nic bitch will never stop haunting you. we all let her in our lives like a bunch of fucktard morons and now the price we pay is the daily battle and that fucking voice "one dip won't hurt"
I fucking hate that cunt bitch......
Nate - you are Day 18 of pure adrenaline......you have not even faced your nastiest test. Just like my boy Diesel said.....just man the fuck up bro.....
you want my digits? PM me......
Peace
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So freaking grateful I found you all. Day 18 - just got a great text from Stig asking me what I was doing for my quit this weekend...
I realized I have some potential triggers going tomorrow - long work day and out of town. Wife will be out all night, too. Perfect recipe for my mind to start working on me. Well - I'm prepared for it and will text/post tomorrow to prevent crazy thoughts. Fuck nicotine.
Those of you in June who I started with and are approaching 100 days - I am so proud of you! Keep rolling and I am following you into the Hall!
Quit on guys! One day at a time.
You stumbled before but you got back on your feet. I'm sure I would have vacated had I caved. Keep up with the quit. We (June) are watching out for you.
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So freaking grateful I found you all. Day 18 - just got a great text from Stig asking me what I was doing for my quit this weekend...
I realized I have some potential triggers going tomorrow - long work day and out of town. Wife will be out all night, too. Perfect recipe for my mind to start working on me. Well - I'm prepared for it and will text/post tomorrow to prevent crazy thoughts. Fuck nicotine.
Those of you in June who I started with and are approaching 100 days - I am so proud of you! Keep rolling and I am following you into the Hall!
Quit on guys! One day at a time.
You stumbled before but you got back on your feet. I'm sure I would have vacated had I caved. Keep up with the quit. We (June) are watching out for you.
Shit, I was hoping it would get easier after day 100. Cleanfuel don't mess with me. Nate - in dreading a work road trip this coming week. Probably my biggest trigger and I haven't faced it yet. Share your experiences, please. Stay strong. I'll send you my number if you want to talk while you're on the road.
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Your headed in the right direction. Like AJ said Own It! Make this quit about you and you have to want it more than air. Coming up on 400 days here and I still hear her taping on the door. It's why KTC is so vital to my quit, it keeps the door shut! Glad to see you plugging in and reaching out as you have promised. Look forward to seeing you on roll in the AM
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Raider's HOF speech (http://http//forum.killthecan.org/topic/10329079/1/#new)
Just read through this and it really got me fired up! I quit initially in June and these are the guys I still look up to. Everything you mentioned Raider about getting involved, I have found to be true. We can't even just post roll, it needs to be much more than that. I'm involved with my August quit brothers as well as with members from other groups, daily. If I don't post roll before noon (rarely), I get a text about it....and do the same for others. I can't do this alone.
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Raider's HOF speech (http://http//forum.killthecan.org/topic/10329079/1/#new)
Just read through this and it really got me fired up! I quit initially in June and these are the guys I still look up to. Everything you mentioned Raider about getting involved, I have found to be true. We can't even just post roll, it needs to be much more than that. I'm involved with my August quit brothers as well as with members from other groups, daily. If I don't post roll before noon (rarely), I get a text about it....and do the same for others. I can't do this alone.
You get it now. Thank God. Glad the speech helped. If you want to quit and stay quit, you have to be involved. Posting roll is only a tiny portion of success. You gotta drink not just the glass. It the whole damn jug of Kool Aid. Sorry you are not with us but happy you saw the light. Keep it up.
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Raider's HOF speech (http://http//forum.killthecan.org/topic/10329079/1/#new)
Just read through this and it really got me fired up! I quit initially in June and these are the guys I still look up to. Everything you mentioned Raider about getting involved, I have found to be true. We can't even just post roll, it needs to be much more than that. I'm involved with my August quit brothers as well as with members from other groups, daily. If I don't post roll before noon (rarely), I get a text about it....and do the same for others. I can't do this alone.
You get it now. Thank God. Glad the speech helped. If you want to quit and stay quit, you have to be involved. Posting roll is only a tiny portion of success. You gotta drink not just the glass. It the whole damn jug of Koop Aid. Sorry you are now with us but happy you saw the light. Keep it up.
Nate, I'm proud of you, Buddy. You're killing it this time around. Well done!
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Raider's HOF speech (http://http//forum.killthecan.org/topic/10329079/1/#new)
Just read through this and it really got me fired up! I quit initially in June and these are the guys I still look up to. Everything you mentioned Raider about getting involved, I have found to be true. We can't even just post roll, it needs to be much more than that. I'm involved with my August quit brothers as well as with members from other groups, daily. If I don't post roll before noon (rarely), I get a text about it....and do the same for others. I can't do this alone.
You get it now. Thank God. Glad the speech helped. If you want to quit and stay quit, you have to be involved. Posting roll is only a tiny portion of success. You gotta drink not just the glass. It the whole damn jug of Koop Aid. Sorry you are now with us but happy you saw the light. Keep it up.
Nate, I'm proud of you, Buddy. You're killing it this time around. Well done!
I hate doing stuff from my phone:
You get it now. Thank God. Glad the speech helped. If you want to quit and stay quit, you have to be involved. Posting roll is only a tiny portion of success. You gotta drink not just the glass. It the whole damn jug of Kool Aid. Sorry you are not with us but happy you saw the light. Keep it up.
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Hey brother,
Just wanted to let you know after our call I went back and regurgitated the sixties in my thread. I am living the pain today with you and in my mind I am on day 60 with you today, and most importantly we will get through this and be on day 61 tomorrow. Your a bad ass that I have enjoyed quitting with, your quit has inspired me in many ways. The daily text of quit motivation has been awesome, reminds me of bronc. Again funk through the sixties and seventies is normal. You got this, I quit with you all day today and share your challenge brother. I am right here beside you!!!!!!!
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Hey brother,
Just wanted to let you know after our call I went back and regurgitated the sixties in my thread. I am living the pain today with you and in my mind I am on day 60 with you today, and most importantly we will get through this and be on day 61 tomorrow. Your a bad ass that I have enjoyed quitting with, your quit has inspired me in many ways. The daily text of quit motivation has been awesome, reminds me of bronc. Again funk through the sixties and seventies is normal. You got this, I quit with you all day today and share your challenge brother. I am right here beside you!!!!!!!
Thank you so much for calling yesterday. You got my head screwed on straight in a moment if confusion. I'm proud to quit with you today! Day 61.
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Day 94 here - struggling more than I had previously in my quit. Bronc suggested I come back to my intro page, get honest, and re-read my story about caving 94 days ago. I don't want to cave. I'm with you guys and gave you my word that I would stay quit today. What do you all do when you get cravings? Life has gotten really good and I hadn't thought about caving until recently. I know the nicotine bitch is still there alive and well.
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Day 94 here - struggling more than I had previously in my quit. Bronc suggested I come back to my intro page, get honest, and re-read my story about caving 94 days ago. I don't want to cave. I'm with you guys and gave you my word that I would stay quit today. What do you all do when you get cravings? Life has gotten really good and I hadn't thought about caving until recently. I know the nicotine bitch is still there alive and well.
You know, right around day 100, I went through a phase too, apparently lots of people do. quitforsoj caved right after his hundred, aggieheismanziel caved right after his hundred. But good for you to come back and reread the hell you've been through, now multiple times. Don't do it. It really isn't a good idea and you know that.
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Day 94 here - struggling more than I had previously in my quit. Bronc suggested I come back to my intro page, get honest, and re-read my story about caving 94 days ago. I don't want to cave. I'm with you guys and gave you my word that I would stay quit today. What do you all do when you get cravings? Life has gotten really good and I hadn't thought about caving until recently. I know the nicotine bitch is still there alive and well.
You know, right around day 100, I went through a phase too, apparently lots of people do. quitforsoj caved right after his hundred, aggieheismanziel caved right after his hundred. But good for you to come back and reread the hell you've been through, now multiple times. Don't do it. It really isn't a good idea and you know that.
Nate, stick to the basics. One day at a time. Keep that in your head. You only have to quit today. Don't worry about tomorrow or the next day. We'll figure that out together tomorrow, but I know it starts with our promise to not use today. So you've got it in you to be quit today. I've got it in my to be quit today. Let's just power through this today. One day at a time adds up.
Can you do me a favor? Can you write down right now, all the awful things about nicotine and chew? write down all the negative impacts it had on your life. Then, write to me right here in your introduction what you'd say to me if I called you right now saying I'm really craving and I might cave. What would you say to me? How would you help me?
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Day 94 here - struggling more than I had previously in my quit. Bronc suggested I come back to my intro page, get honest, and re-read my story about caving 94 days ago. I don't want to cave. I'm with you guys and gave you my word that I would stay quit today. What do you all do when you get cravings? Life has gotten really good and I hadn't thought about caving until recently. I know the nicotine bitch is still there alive and well.
You know, right around day 100, I went through a phase too, apparently lots of people do. quitforsoj caved right after his hundred, aggieheismanziel caved right after his hundred. But good for you to come back and reread the hell you've been through, now multiple times. Don't do it. It really isn't a good idea and you know that.
Nate, stick to the basics. One day at a time. Keep that in your head. You only have to quit today. Don't worry about tomorrow or the next day. We'll figure that out together tomorrow, but I know it starts with our promise to not use today. So you've got it in you to be quit today. I've got it in my to be quit today. Let's just power through this today. One day at a time adds up.
Can you do me a favor? Can you write down right now, all the awful things about nicotine and chew? write down all the negative impacts it had on your life. Then, write to me right here in your introduction what you'd say to me if I called you right now saying I'm really craving and I might cave. What would you say to me? How would you help me?
You can add to that list of things to send to Bronc - what are the positive impacts caving would have on your life. That should take you all of 1 second to think about becuase caving is going to do NOTHING positive for you. NOTHING! There is now reason whatsoever to go back.
Kick those cravings square in the junk. Quit hard with you today!
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Day 94 here - struggling more than I had previously in my quit. Bronc suggested I come back to my intro page, get honest, and re-read my story about caving 94 days ago. I don't want to cave. I'm with you guys and gave you my word that I would stay quit today. What do you all do when you get cravings? Life has gotten really good and I hadn't thought about caving until recently. I know the nicotine bitch is still there alive and well.
You know, right around day 100, I went through a phase too, apparently lots of people do. quitforsoj caved right after his hundred, aggieheismanziel caved right after his hundred. But good for you to come back and reread the hell you've been through, now multiple times. Don't do it. It really isn't a good idea and you know that.
Nate, stick to the basics. One day at a time. Keep that in your head. You only have to quit today. Don't worry about tomorrow or the next day. We'll figure that out together tomorrow, but I know it starts with our promise to not use today. So you've got it in you to be quit today. I've got it in my to be quit today. Let's just power through this today. One day at a time adds up.
Can you do me a favor? Can you write down right now, all the awful things about nicotine and chew? write down all the negative impacts it had on your life. Then, write to me right here in your introduction what you'd say to me if I called you right now saying I'm really craving and I might cave. What would you say to me? How would you help me?
You can add to that list of things to send to Bronc - what are the positive impacts caving would have on your life. That should take you all of 1 second to think about becuase caving is going to do NOTHING positive for you. NOTHING! There is now reason whatsoever to go back.
Kick those cravings square in the junk. Quit hard with you today!
Nate I glad you came back here for a reality check. Like we talked about this morning you need to hate the bitch! You can not reminisce about the "good old days" they weren't good and you were slowly poisoning yourself. You have come to far to cave now. We have texted each other daily for 94 days I hope we do that until 10,094 days, but all we have to worry about is today.
I smelled an empty can I found in my car at the end of July. It took me right to the place where you have been the last few days and it took everything in me and wise words from my quit brothers to get my head back on strait. I will never smell it again...I hate it.
In order to be successful I think sooner or later you have to weld the door shut and torch the motherfucker. I think I am there the door is closed and I have the lighter and can of gas in my hands. Our conversation today has reminded me why its time to light the bitch. There is no cure only our daily promise. I am proud to have you by my side Nate...don't let us down.
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Day 94 here - struggling more than I had previously in my quit. Bronc suggested I come back to my intro page, get honest, and re-read my story about caving 94 days ago. I don't want to cave. I'm with you guys and gave you my word that I would stay quit today. What do you all do when you get cravings? Life has gotten really good and I hadn't thought about caving until recently. I know the nicotine bitch is still there alive and well.
You know, right around day 100, I went through a phase too, apparently lots of people do. quitforsoj caved right after his hundred, aggieheismanziel caved right after his hundred. But good for you to come back and reread the hell you've been through, now multiple times. Don't do it. It really isn't a good idea and you know that.
Nate, stick to the basics. One day at a time. Keep that in your head. You only have to quit today. Don't worry about tomorrow or the next day. We'll figure that out together tomorrow, but I know it starts with our promise to not use today. So you've got it in you to be quit today. I've got it in my to be quit today. Let's just power through this today. One day at a time adds up.
Can you do me a favor? Can you write down right now, all the awful things about nicotine and chew? write down all the negative impacts it had on your life. Then, write to me right here in your introduction what you'd say to me if I called you right now saying I'm really craving and I might cave. What would you say to me? How would you help me?
You can add to that list of things to send to Bronc - what are the positive impacts caving would have on your life. That should take you all of 1 second to think about becuase caving is going to do NOTHING positive for you. NOTHING! There is now reason whatsoever to go back.
Kick those cravings square in the junk. Quit hard with you today!
Nate I glad you came back here for a reality check. Like we talked about this morning you need to hate the bitch! You can not reminisce about the "good old days" they weren't good and you were slowly poisoning yourself. You have come to far to cave now. We have texted each other daily for 94 days I hope we do that until 10,094 days, but all we have to worry about is today.
I smelled an empty can I found in my car at the end of July. It took me right to the place where you have been the last few days and it took everything in me and wise words from my quit brothers to get my head back on strait. I will never smell it again...I hate it.
In order to be successful I think sooner or later you have to weld the door shut and torch the motherfucker. I think I am there the door is closed and I have the lighter and can of gas in my hands. Our conversation today has reminded me why its time to light the bitch. There is no cure only our daily promise. I am proud to have you by my side Nate...don't let us down.
Hey Nate, the fact that you are here and communicating with us tells me that you don't want to cave. You know how this system works by now and you're using it. That's great. The not so great is the fact that you seem to be listening to the lies about how great chewing was. The nic bitch is mind fucking you and you're letting her do it. I want you to think about how you felt after you caved last time. I want you to remember the look on your wife's face when you caved. I know you don't want to go through that shit again. It's gut check time, Brother. I know you have it in you. I've been right there with you the whole time. Let's get it done today. We'll worry about tomorrow later.
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Day 94 here - struggling more than I had previously in my quit. Bronc suggested I come back to my intro page, get honest, and re-read my story about caving 94 days ago. I don't want to cave. I'm with you guys and gave you my word that I would stay quit today. What do you all do when you get cravings? Life has gotten really good and I hadn't thought about caving until recently. I know the nicotine bitch is still there alive and well.
You know, right around day 100, I went through a phase too, apparently lots of people do. quitforsoj caved right after his hundred, aggieheismanziel caved right after his hundred. But good for you to come back and reread the hell you've been through, now multiple times. Don't do it. It really isn't a good idea and you know that.
Nate, stick to the basics. One day at a time. Keep that in your head. You only have to quit today. Don't worry about tomorrow or the next day. We'll figure that out together tomorrow, but I know it starts with our promise to not use today. So you've got it in you to be quit today. I've got it in my to be quit today. Let's just power through this today. One day at a time adds up.
Can you do me a favor? Can you write down right now, all the awful things about nicotine and chew? write down all the negative impacts it had on your life. Then, write to me right here in your introduction what you'd say to me if I called you right now saying I'm really craving and I might cave. What would you say to me? How would you help me?
You can add to that list of things to send to Bronc - what are the positive impacts caving would have on your life. That should take you all of 1 second to think about becuase caving is going to do NOTHING positive for you. NOTHING! There is now reason whatsoever to go back.
Kick those cravings square in the junk. Quit hard with you today!
Nate I glad you came back here for a reality check. Like we talked about this morning you need to hate the bitch! You can not reminisce about the "good old days" they weren't good and you were slowly poisoning yourself. You have come to far to cave now. We have texted each other daily for 94 days I hope we do that until 10,094 days, but all we have to worry about is today.
I smelled an empty can I found in my car at the end of July. It took me right to the place where you have been the last few days and it took everything in me and wise words from my quit brothers to get my head back on strait. I will never smell it again...I hate it.
In order to be successful I think sooner or later you have to weld the door shut and torch the motherfucker. I think I am there the door is closed and I have the lighter and can of gas in my hands. Our conversation today has reminded me why its time to light the bitch. There is no cure only our daily promise. I am proud to have you by my side Nate...don't let us down.
Hey Nate, the fact that you are here and communicating with us tells me that you don't want to cave. You know how this system works by now and you're using it. That's great. The not so great is the fact that you seem to be listening to the lies about how great chewing was. The nic bitch is mind fucking you and you're letting her do it. I want you to think about how you felt after you caved last time. I want you to remember the look on your wife's face when you caved. I know you don't want to go through that shit again. It's gut check time, Brother. I know you have it in you. I've been right there with you the whole time. Let's get it done today. We'll worry about tomorrow later.
I like the advice you are getting. First, the fact that you reached out is huge. Bronc is correct. When in doubt go back to the basics. No matter how many days, go back to the basics.
Post
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Refuse to cave.
The nic bitch hates that it is so simple. Carry on.
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Day 94 here - struggling more than I had previously in my quit. Bronc suggested I come back to my intro page, get honest, and re-read my story about caving 94 days ago. I don't want to cave. I'm with you guys and gave you my word that I would stay quit today. What do you all do when you get cravings? Life has gotten really good and I hadn't thought about caving until recently. I know the nicotine bitch is still there alive and well.
You know, right around day 100, I went through a phase too, apparently lots of people do. quitforsoj caved right after his hundred, aggieheismanziel caved right after his hundred. But good for you to come back and reread the hell you've been through, now multiple times. Don't do it. It really isn't a good idea and you know that.
Nate, stick to the basics. One day at a time. Keep that in your head. You only have to quit today. Don't worry about tomorrow or the next day. We'll figure that out together tomorrow, but I know it starts with our promise to not use today. So you've got it in you to be quit today. I've got it in my to be quit today. Let's just power through this today. One day at a time adds up.
Can you do me a favor? Can you write down right now, all the awful things about nicotine and chew? write down all the negative impacts it had on your life. Then, write to me right here in your introduction what you'd say to me if I called you right now saying I'm really craving and I might cave. What would you say to me? How would you help me?
You can add to that list of things to send to Bronc - what are the positive impacts caving would have on your life. That should take you all of 1 second to think about becuase caving is going to do NOTHING positive for you. NOTHING! There is now reason whatsoever to go back.
Kick those cravings square in the junk. Quit hard with you today!
Nate I glad you came back here for a reality check. Like we talked about this morning you need to hate the bitch! You can not reminisce about the "good old days" they weren't good and you were slowly poisoning yourself. You have come to far to cave now. We have texted each other daily for 94 days I hope we do that until 10,094 days, but all we have to worry about is today.
I smelled an empty can I found in my car at the end of July. It took me right to the place where you have been the last few days and it took everything in me and wise words from my quit brothers to get my head back on strait. I will never smell it again...I hate it.
In order to be successful I think sooner or later you have to weld the door shut and torch the motherfucker. I think I am there the door is closed and I have the lighter and can of gas in my hands. Our conversation today has reminded me why its time to light the bitch. There is no cure only our daily promise. I am proud to have you by my side Nate...don't let us down.
Hey Nate, the fact that you are here and communicating with us tells me that you don't want to cave. You know how this system works by now and you're using it. That's great. The not so great is the fact that you seem to be listening to the lies about how great chewing was. The nic bitch is mind fucking you and you're letting her do it. I want you to think about how you felt after you caved last time. I want you to remember the look on your wife's face when you caved. I know you don't want to go through that shit again. It's gut check time, Brother. I know you have it in you. I've been right there with you the whole time. Let's get it done today. We'll worry about tomorrow later.
I like the advice you are getting. First, the fact that you reached out is huge. Bronc is correct. When in doubt go back to the basics. No matter how many days, go back to the basics.
Post
Read
Help
Refuse to cave.
The nic bitch hates that it is so simple. Carry on.
Bronc -
- constant lying to my wife - making excuses to leave the house
- scared of cancer
- cost of tins every two days
- bottles of shit spit all over my car
- physically craving it
- never being able to stop no matter how much I wanted to
- I lost part of my gum and had to have a skin graft to replace it (fucked up and true - I told my wife it was from 'hard brushing')
- I accidentally spilled and drank dip spit
Positives
- took my wife to a nice dinner last night with the money I saved and to celebrate 3 months with no nicotine
- I don't have anything in my life that I'm currently lying about
- No fucking lip, gum, throat cancer
- I'm not a slave today
- I've made a lot of quit brothers through KTC
- I have integrity
You guys rock - I'm here for you and I promise I'm not putting that poison into my lip today!
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Day 94 here - struggling more than I had previously in my quit. Bronc suggested I come back to my intro page, get honest, and re-read my story about caving 94 days ago. I don't want to cave. I'm with you guys and gave you my word that I would stay quit today. What do you all do when you get cravings? Life has gotten really good and I hadn't thought about caving until recently. I know the nicotine bitch is still there alive and well.
You know, right around day 100, I went through a phase too, apparently lots of people do. quitforsoj caved right after his hundred, aggieheismanziel caved right after his hundred. But good for you to come back and reread the hell you've been through, now multiple times. Don't do it. It really isn't a good idea and you know that.
Nate, stick to the basics. One day at a time. Keep that in your head. You only have to quit today. Don't worry about tomorrow or the next day. We'll figure that out together tomorrow, but I know it starts with our promise to not use today. So you've got it in you to be quit today. I've got it in my to be quit today. Let's just power through this today. One day at a time adds up.
Can you do me a favor? Can you write down right now, all the awful things about nicotine and chew? write down all the negative impacts it had on your life. Then, write to me right here in your introduction what you'd say to me if I called you right now saying I'm really craving and I might cave. What would you say to me? How would you help me?
You can add to that list of things to send to Bronc - what are the positive impacts caving would have on your life. That should take you all of 1 second to think about becuase caving is going to do NOTHING positive for you. NOTHING! There is now reason whatsoever to go back.
Kick those cravings square in the junk. Quit hard with you today!
Nate I glad you came back here for a reality check. Like we talked about this morning you need to hate the bitch! You can not reminisce about the "good old days" they weren't good and you were slowly poisoning yourself. You have come to far to cave now. We have texted each other daily for 94 days I hope we do that until 10,094 days, but all we have to worry about is today.
I smelled an empty can I found in my car at the end of July. It took me right to the place where you have been the last few days and it took everything in me and wise words from my quit brothers to get my head back on strait. I will never smell it again...I hate it.
In order to be successful I think sooner or later you have to weld the door shut and torch the motherfucker. I think I am there the door is closed and I have the lighter and can of gas in my hands. Our conversation today has reminded me why its time to light the bitch. There is no cure only our daily promise. I am proud to have you by my side Nate...don't let us down.
Hey Nate, the fact that you are here and communicating with us tells me that you don't want to cave. You know how this system works by now and you're using it. That's great. The not so great is the fact that you seem to be listening to the lies about how great chewing was. The nic bitch is mind fucking you and you're letting her do it. I want you to think about how you felt after you caved last time. I want you to remember the look on your wife's face when you caved. I know you don't want to go through that shit again. It's gut check time, Brother. I know you have it in you. I've been right there with you the whole time. Let's get it done today. We'll worry about tomorrow later.
I like the advice you are getting. First, the fact that you reached out is huge. Bronc is correct. When in doubt go back to the basics. No matter how many days, go back to the basics.
Post
Read
Help
Refuse to cave.
The nic bitch hates that it is so simple. Carry on.
Bronc -
- constant lying to my wife - making excuses to leave the house
- scared of cancer
- cost of tins every two days
- bottles of shit spit all over my car
- physically craving it
- never being able to stop no matter how much I wanted to
- I lost part of my gum and had to have a skin graft to replace it (fucked up and true - I told my wife it was from 'hard brushing')
- I accidentally spilled and drank dip spit
Positives
- took my wife to a nice dinner last night with the money I saved and to celebrate 3 months with no nicotine
- I don't have anything in my life that I'm currently lying about
- No fucking lip, gum, throat cancer
- I'm not a slave today
- I've made a lot of quit brothers through KTC
- I have integrity
You guys rock - I'm here for you and I promise I'm not putting that poison into my lip today!
'oh yeah'
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Day 94 here - struggling more than I had previously in my quit. Bronc suggested I come back to my intro page, get honest, and re-read my story about caving 94 days ago. I don't want to cave. I'm with you guys and gave you my word that I would stay quit today. What do you all do when you get cravings? Life has gotten really good and I hadn't thought about caving until recently. I know the nicotine bitch is still there alive and well.
You know, right around day 100, I went through a phase too, apparently lots of people do. quitforsoj caved right after his hundred, aggieheismanziel caved right after his hundred. But good for you to come back and reread the hell you've been through, now multiple times. Don't do it. It really isn't a good idea and you know that.
Nate, stick to the basics. One day at a time. Keep that in your head. You only have to quit today. Don't worry about tomorrow or the next day. We'll figure that out together tomorrow, but I know it starts with our promise to not use today. So you've got it in you to be quit today. I've got it in my to be quit today. Let's just power through this today. One day at a time adds up.
Can you do me a favor? Can you write down right now, all the awful things about nicotine and chew? write down all the negative impacts it had on your life. Then, write to me right here in your introduction what you'd say to me if I called you right now saying I'm really craving and I might cave. What would you say to me? How would you help me?
You can add to that list of things to send to Bronc - what are the positive impacts caving would have on your life. That should take you all of 1 second to think about becuase caving is going to do NOTHING positive for you. NOTHING! There is now reason whatsoever to go back.
Kick those cravings square in the junk. Quit hard with you today!
Nate I glad you came back here for a reality check. Like we talked about this morning you need to hate the bitch! You can not reminisce about the "good old days" they weren't good and you were slowly poisoning yourself. You have come to far to cave now. We have texted each other daily for 94 days I hope we do that until 10,094 days, but all we have to worry about is today.
I smelled an empty can I found in my car at the end of July. It took me right to the place where you have been the last few days and it took everything in me and wise words from my quit brothers to get my head back on strait. I will never smell it again...I hate it.
In order to be successful I think sooner or later you have to weld the door shut and torch the motherfucker. I think I am there the door is closed and I have the lighter and can of gas in my hands. Our conversation today has reminded me why its time to light the bitch. There is no cure only our daily promise. I am proud to have you by my side Nate...don't let us down.
Hey Nate, the fact that you are here and communicating with us tells me that you don't want to cave. You know how this system works by now and you're using it. That's great. The not so great is the fact that you seem to be listening to the lies about how great chewing was. The nic bitch is mind fucking you and you're letting her do it. I want you to think about how you felt after you caved last time. I want you to remember the look on your wife's face when you caved. I know you don't want to go through that shit again. It's gut check time, Brother. I know you have it in you. I've been right there with you the whole time. Let's get it done today. We'll worry about tomorrow later.
I like the advice you are getting. First, the fact that you reached out is huge. Bronc is correct. When in doubt go back to the basics. No matter how many days, go back to the basics.
Post
Read
Help
Refuse to cave.
The nic bitch hates that it is so simple. Carry on.
Bronc -
- constant lying to my wife - making excuses to leave the house
- scared of cancer
- cost of tins every two days
- bottles of shit spit all over my car
- physically craving it
- never being able to stop no matter how much I wanted to
- I lost part of my gum and had to have a skin graft to replace it (fucked up and true - I told my wife it was from 'hard brushing')
- I accidentally spilled and drank dip spit
Positives
- took my wife to a nice dinner last night with the money I saved and to celebrate 3 months with no nicotine
- I don't have anything in my life that I'm currently lying about
- No fucking lip, gum, throat cancer
- I'm not a slave today
- I've made a lot of quit brothers through KTC
- I have integrity
You guys rock - I'm here for you and I promise I'm not putting that poison into my lip today!
'oh yeah'
This whole thread made my quit stronger today, thank you Nate!
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Day 98. There is absolutely nothing that nicotine will do to make my life better. I have quit HUNDREDS of times, only to be lured in by the bitch. Not this time. There is nothing of value in it for me. I tried so long to quit and you all have carried me through almost 100 days. I have been trying to quit for five years. FIVE YEARS. This is the longest I have ever gone without nicotine since I started dipping. I let the nic bitch in my head again today and am grateful I made it to the site tonight and got a text from Stig.
I forgot to post roll today until 10:30pm tonight. Tomorrow - I'll be on bright and early and I won't be forgetting to post roll until late at night anymore. My life is on the line and if I don't start acting like it, I'll be posting a day 1. I hate nicotine and I'm here for my quit brothers. Quit for tonight.
FUCK. nicotine is a motherfucker. I am never cured from this thing. I need some anger back in my quit towards nicotine. I have gotten way too nicey nice towards dipping lately in my mind and this is stopping today.
I'm quit with you all tonight. Random stream of consciousness writing going on here, but the bitch took up residence in my head because I let her in. Grateful to recognize it before I did something stupid.
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Guys -I need your help. I'm on the verge of caving and I don't want to. It has been building consciously and subconsciously for the past few weeks. I lost most of my gratitude for quitting and then last night it got to thr point where I was actually thinking about a pinch and putting it in my mouth and romanticizing what the Wintergreen Kodiak would taste like.
I stopped posting roll religiously, I spend essentially no time on the site, and I have little contact with you all besides a mostly daily text that I send out to some brothers. Even with the text though, there is very little interaction.
I shared this with my wife and she very obviously got concerned. I've hurt her too many times.
I don't want to cave.
My brain is cloudy - feels like day 1. Tell me what to do and I'll do it.
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Day 258
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Guys -I need your help. I'm on the verge of caving and I don't want to. It has been building consciously and subconsciously for the past few weeks. I lost most of my gratitude for quitting and then last night it got to thr point where I was actually thinking about a pinch and putting it in my mouth and romanticizing what the Wintergreen Kodiak would taste like.
I stopped posting roll religiously, I spend essentially no time on the site, and I have little contact with you all besides a mostly daily text that I send out to some brothers. Even with the text though, there is very little interaction.
I shared this with my wife and she very obviously got concerned. I've hurt her too many times.
I don't want to cave.
My brain is cloudy - feels like day 1. Tell me what to do and I'll do it.
If you don't want to cave then don't. It comes down to if you want to be quit or not. I can't answer that for you. I have no idea why you would throw 258 days away. I have not ever heard of a reason that was good enough to use again. I doubt you have it either.
You need to post roll and make that commitment for today. Then, get on the phone with those people and talk it out.
There is no reason to stop posting roll. It works. Stopping your posting is just the beginning of a cave. So, get back to it. No one said you had to read intros or go to chat but you did agree to post roll every day. I don't see that it has changed. The expectation is still the same.
You need to take ownership of your quit. It is all on you. I'm glad you reached out but you just told us you put yourself here but not following what works.
I am quit today. My word has already been given. I will quit with you. I can't do this for you.
FU nicotine. Get it together.
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Guys -I need your help. I'm on the verge of caving and I don't want to. It has been building consciously and subconsciously for the past few weeks. I lost most of my gratitude for quitting and then last night it got to thr point where I was actually thinking about a pinch and putting it in my mouth and romanticizing what the Wintergreen Kodiak would taste like.
I stopped posting roll religiously, I spend essentially no time on the site, and I have little contact with you all besides a mostly daily text that I send out to some brothers. Even with the text though, there is very little interaction.
I shared this with my wife and she very obviously got concerned. I've hurt her too many times.
I don't want to cave.
My brain is cloudy - feels like day 1. Tell me what to do and I'll do it.
If you don't want to cave then don't. It comes down to if you want to be quit or not. I can't answer that for you. I have no idea why you would throw 258 days away. I have not ever heard of a reason that was good enough to use again. I doubt you have it either.
You need to post roll and make that commitment for today. Then, get on the phone with those people and talk it out.
There is no reason to stop posting roll. It works. Stopping your posting is just the beginning of a cave. So, get back to it. No one said you had to read intros or go to chat but you did agree to post roll every day. I don't see that it has changed. The expectation is still the same.
You need to take ownership of your quit. It is all on you. I'm glad you reached out but you just told us you put yourself here but not following what works.
I am quit today. My word has already been given. I will quit with you. I can't do this for you.
FU nicotine. Get it together.
Remember the pain, embarrassment, agony and frustration you felt when you caved before?!?!? You can win this battle dude, think about the future not about how you feel in this moment!!! PM me now for digits ...
Rohde
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Guys -I need your help. I'm on the verge of caving and I don't want to. It has been building consciously and subconsciously for the past few weeks. I lost most of my gratitude for quitting and then last night it got to thr point where I was actually thinking about a pinch and putting it in my mouth and romanticizing what the Wintergreen Kodiak would taste like.
I stopped posting roll religiously, I spend essentially no time on the site, and I have little contact with you all besides a mostly daily text that I send out to some brothers. Even with the text though, there is very little interaction.
I shared this with my wife and she very obviously got concerned. I've hurt her too many times.
I don't want to cave.
My brain is cloudy - feels like day 1. Tell me what to do and I'll do it.
If you don't want to cave then don't. It comes down to if you want to be quit or not. I can't answer that for you. I have no idea why you would throw 258 days away. I have not ever heard of a reason that was good enough to use again. I doubt you have it either.
You need to post roll and make that commitment for today. Then, get on the phone with those people and talk it out.
There is no reason to stop posting roll. It works. Stopping your posting is just the beginning of a cave. So, get back to it. No one said you had to read intros or go to chat but you did agree to post roll every day. I don't see that it has changed. The expectation is still the same.
You need to take ownership of your quit. It is all on you. I'm glad you reached out but you just told us you put yourself here but not following what works.
I am quit today. My word has already been given. I will quit with you. I can't do this for you.
FU nicotine. Get it together.
Remember the pain, embarrassment, agony and frustration you felt when you caved before?!?!? You can win this battle dude, think about the future not about how you feel in this moment!!! PM me now for digits ...
Rohde
Relax.... Remember your promise .... Focus on quitting today. Then do it. No one can make you cave. You control your actions today. No one else and certainly not nicotine. Battle today. This is most important day of your life. You can do it.
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Guys -I need your help. I'm on the verge of caving and I don't want to. It has been building consciously and subconsciously for the past few weeks. I lost most of my gratitude for quitting and then last night it got to thr point where I was actually thinking about a pinch and putting it in my mouth and romanticizing what the Wintergreen Kodiak would taste like.
I stopped posting roll religiously, I spend essentially no time on the site, and I have little contact with you all besides a mostly daily text that I send out to some brothers. Even with the text though, there is very little interaction.
I shared this with my wife and she very obviously got concerned. I've hurt her too many times.
I don't want to cave.
My brain is cloudy - feels like day 1. Tell me what to do and I'll do it.
If you don't want to cave then don't. It comes down to if you want to be quit or not. I can't answer that for you. I have no idea why you would throw 258 days away. I have not ever heard of a reason that was good enough to use again. I doubt you have it either.
You need to post roll and make that commitment for today. Then, get on the phone with those people and talk it out.
There is no reason to stop posting roll. It works. Stopping your posting is just the beginning of a cave. So, get back to it. No one said you had to read intros or go to chat but you did agree to post roll every day. I don't see that it has changed. The expectation is still the same.
You need to take ownership of your quit. It is all on you. I'm glad you reached out but you just told us you put yourself here but not following what works.
I am quit today. My word has already been given. I will quit with you. I can't do this for you.
FU nicotine. Get it together.
Remember the pain, embarrassment, agony and frustration you felt when you caved before?!?!? You can win this battle dude, think about the future not about how you feel in this moment!!! PM me now for digits ...
Rohde
Relax.... Remember your promise .... Focus on quitting today. Then do it. No one can make you cave. You control your actions today. No one else and certainly not nicotine. Battle today. This is most important day of your life. You can do it.
The answer to your crave problem is staring you in the face man. Seriously take a look at what's going on here. You've got brothers here reaching out and willing to help you at the drop of a hat. You've got guys like me that have just started their journey and look up to guys like you. Your wife is concerned and you say you've hurt her too many times. Do you truly want to purposely hurt her again? Do you want to let us all down? What are you going to say to the man in the mirror? Is it all really worth the $5 can of hell you're considering to reign down upon yourself? I'm with the other guys. Own your quit. Commit to your promise.
All that aside, I would like to thank you for strengthening my quit today. You have shown me how important it is to stay commited and involved in my quit. Complacency is a motherfucker. I quit with you guys today. Will you quit with us natemcpherson?
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Guys -I need your help. I'm on the verge of caving and I don't want to. It has been building consciously and subconsciously for the past few weeks. I lost most of my gratitude for quitting and then last night it got to thr point where I was actually thinking about a pinch and putting it in my mouth and romanticizing what the Wintergreen Kodiak would taste like.
I stopped posting roll religiously, I spend essentially no time on the site, and I have little contact with you all besides a mostly daily text that I send out to some brothers. Even with the text though, there is very little interaction.
I shared this with my wife and she very obviously got concerned. I've hurt her too many times.
I don't want to cave.
My brain is cloudy - feels like day 1. Tell me what to do and I'll do it.
If you don't want to cave then don't. It comes down to if you want to be quit or not. I can't answer that for you. I have no idea why you would throw 258 days away. I have not ever heard of a reason that was good enough to use again. I doubt you have it either.
You need to post roll and make that commitment for today. Then, get on the phone with those people and talk it out.
There is no reason to stop posting roll. It works. Stopping your posting is just the beginning of a cave. So, get back to it. No one said you had to read intros or go to chat but you did agree to post roll every day. I don't see that it has changed. The expectation is still the same.
You need to take ownership of your quit. It is all on you. I'm glad you reached out but you just told us you put yourself here but not following what works.
I am quit today. My word has already been given. I will quit with you. I can't do this for you.
FU nicotine. Get it together.
Remember the pain, embarrassment, agony and frustration you felt when you caved before?!?!? You can win this battle dude, think about the future not about how you feel in this moment!!! PM me now for digits ...
Rohde
Relax.... Remember your promise .... Focus on quitting today. Then do it. No one can make you cave. You control your actions today. No one else and certainly not nicotine. Battle today. This is most important day of your life. You can do it.
The answer to your crave problem is staring you in the face man. Seriously take a look at what's going on here. You've got brothers here reaching out and willing to help you at the drop of a hat. You've got guys like me that have just started their journey and look up to guys like you. Your wife is concerned and you say you've hurt her too many times. Do you truly want to purposely hurt her again? Do you want to let us all down? What are you going to say to the man in the mirror? Is it all really worth the $5 can of hell you're considering to reign down upon yourself? I'm with the other guys. Own your quit. Commit to your promise.
All that aside, I would like to thank you for strengthening my quit today. You have shown me how important it is to stay commited and involved in my quit. Complacency is a motherfucker. I quit with you guys today. Will you quit with us natemcpherson?
you haven't texted me back yet. I hope you are not pissing your promise away. Go back to ODAAT, remember why you quit. A planned fucking cave is the worst fucking kind.
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Guys -I need your help. I'm on the verge of caving and I don't want to. It has been building consciously and subconsciously for the past few weeks. I lost most of my gratitude for quitting and then last night it got to thr point where I was actually thinking about a pinch and putting it in my mouth and romanticizing what the Wintergreen Kodiak would taste like.
I stopped posting roll religiously, I spend essentially no time on the site, and I have little contact with you all besides a mostly daily text that I send out to some brothers. Even with the text though, there is very little interaction.
I shared this with my wife and she very obviously got concerned. I've hurt her too many times.
I don't want to cave.
My brain is cloudy - feels like day 1. Tell me what to do and I'll do it.
If you don't want to cave then don't. It comes down to if you want to be quit or not. I can't answer that for you. I have no idea why you would throw 258 days away. I have not ever heard of a reason that was good enough to use again. I doubt you have it either.
You need to post roll and make that commitment for today. Then, get on the phone with those people and talk it out.
There is no reason to stop posting roll. It works. Stopping your posting is just the beginning of a cave. So, get back to it. No one said you had to read intros or go to chat but you did agree to post roll every day. I don't see that it has changed. The expectation is still the same.
You need to take ownership of your quit. It is all on you. I'm glad you reached out but you just told us you put yourself here but not following what works.
I am quit today. My word has already been given. I will quit with you. I can't do this for you.
FU nicotine. Get it together.
Remember the pain, embarrassment, agony and frustration you felt when you caved before?!?!? You can win this battle dude, think about the future not about how you feel in this moment!!! PM me now for digits ...
Rohde
Relax.... Remember your promise .... Focus on quitting today. Then do it. No one can make you cave. You control your actions today. No one else and certainly not nicotine. Battle today. This is most important day of your life. You can do it.
The answer to your crave problem is staring you in the face man. Seriously take a look at what's going on here. You've got brothers here reaching out and willing to help you at the drop of a hat. You've got guys like me that have just started their journey and look up to guys like you. Your wife is concerned and you say you've hurt her too many times. Do you truly want to purposely hurt her again? Do you want to let us all down? What are you going to say to the man in the mirror? Is it all really worth the $5 can of hell you're considering to reign down upon yourself? I'm with the other guys. Own your quit. Commit to your promise.
All that aside, I would like to thank you for strengthening my quit today. You have shown me how important it is to stay commited and involved in my quit. Complacency is a motherfucker. I quit with you guys today. Will you quit with us natemcpherson?
you haven't texted me back yet. I hope you are not pissing your promise away. Go back to ODAAT, remember why you quit. A planned fucking cave is the worst fucking kind.
Nate where you at buddy? I also sent you a text. Hope you received it. Let us know what's going on man. You have a lot of concerned quit brothers/sisters worried about you.
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Guys -I need your help. I'm on the verge of caving and I don't want to. It has been building consciously and subconsciously for the past few weeks. I lost most of my gratitude for quitting and then last night it got to thr point where I was actually thinking about a pinch and putting it in my mouth and romanticizing what the Wintergreen Kodiak would taste like.
I stopped posting roll religiously, I spend essentially no time on the site, and I have little contact with you all besides a mostly daily text that I send out to some brothers. Even with the text though, there is very little interaction.
I shared this with my wife and she very obviously got concerned. I've hurt her too many times.
I don't want to cave.
My brain is cloudy - feels like day 1. Tell me what to do and I'll do it.
If you don't want to cave then don't. It comes down to if you want to be quit or not. I can't answer that for you. I have no idea why you would throw 258 days away. I have not ever heard of a reason that was good enough to use again. I doubt you have it either.
You need to post roll and make that commitment for today. Then, get on the phone with those people and talk it out.
There is no reason to stop posting roll. It works. Stopping your posting is just the beginning of a cave. So, get back to it. No one said you had to read intros or go to chat but you did agree to post roll every day. I don't see that it has changed. The expectation is still the same.
You need to take ownership of your quit. It is all on you. I'm glad you reached out but you just told us you put yourself here but not following what works.
I am quit today. My word has already been given. I will quit with you. I can't do this for you.
FU nicotine. Get it together.
Remember the pain, embarrassment, agony and frustration you felt when you caved before?!?!? You can win this battle dude, think about the future not about how you feel in this moment!!! PM me now for digits ...
Rohde
Relax.... Remember your promise .... Focus on quitting today. Then do it. No one can make you cave. You control your actions today. No one else and certainly not nicotine. Battle today. This is most important day of your life. You can do it.
The answer to your crave problem is staring you in the face man. Seriously take a look at what's going on here. You've got brothers here reaching out and willing to help you at the drop of a hat. You've got guys like me that have just started their journey and look up to guys like you. Your wife is concerned and you say you've hurt her too many times. Do you truly want to purposely hurt her again? Do you want to let us all down? What are you going to say to the man in the mirror? Is it all really worth the $5 can of hell you're considering to reign down upon yourself? I'm with the other guys. Own your quit. Commit to your promise.
All that aside, I would like to thank you for strengthening my quit today. You have shown me how important it is to stay commited and involved in my quit. Complacency is a motherfucker. I quit with you guys today. Will you quit with us natemcpherson?
you haven't texted me back yet. I hope you are not pissing your promise away. Go back to ODAAT, remember why you quit. A planned fucking cave is the worst fucking kind.
Nate where you at buddy? I also sent you a text. Hope you received it. Let us know what's going on man. You have a lot of concerned quit brothers/sisters worried about you.
Nate - Swear I would spend some time on the phone talking to those is August you have numbers for. I am heading to the NCSU v Notre Dame game shortly but would love to talk later tonight if you think it will help. I recall you are a teacher and a track coach that is youngish around 30. Personally I have not thought about dip at all. I've somehow managed to get to the burn your boats stage.
You've got some strong numbers in your arsenal. I know many non August long term quitters have your back. Also the conductors from August that welcomed Sept also have your back. Give us a call.
My take is you need to quit the romanticizing immediately. Find a way to hate it. From the depths of your being Only then will you be successful in erasing the thoughts of dip forever.
Chewie and Bronc alluded to this. Think about the next morning when you wake up after a dip. Forget about everyone else, especially your wife. Look at who you see in the mirror. Are you proud? Was it worth it? Or are you a miserable pile of regret? You know the answer, don't be that guy.
Last thing, somehow I got involved in January 15. For whatever reason, no one was giving them any love the first week. I jumped in and did the best I could and I truly believe it was better for me than for anyone in January. Someone suggested to adopt a new quitter. That's a good move but if it works with your schedule, the resolve and strength you will get from adopting a month is immeasurable. That's what got me to the burn the boats NAFAR phase.
Good move reaching out. You have my digits from conducting, feel free to call me anytime after 9:15 ET.
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Guys -I need your help. I'm on the verge of caving and I don't want to. It has been building consciously and subconsciously for the past few weeks. I lost most of my gratitude for quitting and then last night it got to thr point where I was actually thinking about a pinch and putting it in my mouth and romanticizing what the Wintergreen Kodiak would taste like.
I stopped posting roll religiously, I spend essentially no time on the site, and I have little contact with you all besides a mostly daily text that I send out to some brothers. Even with the text though, there is very little interaction.
I shared this with my wife and she very obviously got concerned. I've hurt her too many times.
I don't want to cave.
My brain is cloudy - feels like day 1. Tell me what to do and I'll do it.
If you don't want to cave then don't. It comes down to if you want to be quit or not. I can't answer that for you. I have no idea why you would throw 258 days away. I have not ever heard of a reason that was good enough to use again. I doubt you have it either.
You need to post roll and make that commitment for today. Then, get on the phone with those people and talk it out.
There is no reason to stop posting roll. It works. Stopping your posting is just the beginning of a cave. So, get back to it. No one said you had to read intros or go to chat but you did agree to post roll every day. I don't see that it has changed. The expectation is still the same.
You need to take ownership of your quit. It is all on you. I'm glad you reached out but you just told us you put yourself here but not following what works.
I am quit today. My word has already been given. I will quit with you. I can't do this for you.
FU nicotine. Get it together.
Remember the pain, embarrassment, agony and frustration you felt when you caved before?!?!? You can win this battle dude, think about the future not about how you feel in this moment!!! PM me now for digits ...
Rohde
Relax.... Remember your promise .... Focus on quitting today. Then do it. No one can make you cave. You control your actions today. No one else and certainly not nicotine. Battle today. This is most important day of your life. You can do it.
The answer to your crave problem is staring you in the face man. Seriously take a look at what's going on here. You've got brothers here reaching out and willing to help you at the drop of a hat. You've got guys like me that have just started their journey and look up to guys like you. Your wife is concerned and you say you've hurt her too many times. Do you truly want to purposely hurt her again? Do you want to let us all down? What are you going to say to the man in the mirror? Is it all really worth the $5 can of hell you're considering to reign down upon yourself? I'm with the other guys. Own your quit. Commit to your promise.
All that aside, I would like to thank you for strengthening my quit today. You have shown me how important it is to stay commited and involved in my quit. Complacency is a motherfucker. I quit with you guys today. Will you quit with us natemcpherson?
you haven't texted me back yet. I hope you are not pissing your promise away. Go back to ODAAT, remember why you quit. A planned fucking cave is the worst fucking kind.
Nate where you at buddy? I also sent you a text. Hope you received it. Let us know what's going on man. You have a lot of concerned quit brothers/sisters worried about you.
Nate - Swear I would spend some time on the phone talking to those is August you have numbers for. I am heading to the NCSU v Notre Dame game shortly but would love to talk later tonight if you think it will help. I recall you are a teacher and a track coach that is youngish around 30. Personally I have not thought about dip at all. I've somehow managed to get to the burn your boats stage.
You've got some strong numbers in your arsenal. I know many non August long term quitters have your back. Also the conductors from August that welcomed Sept also have your back. Give us a call.
My take is you need to quit the romanticizing immediately. Find a way to hate it. From the depths of your being Only then will you be successful in erasing the thoughts of dip forever.
Chewie and Bronc alluded to this. Think about the next morning when you wake up after a dip. Forget about everyone else, especially your wife. Look at who you see in the mirror. Are you proud? Was it worth it? Or are you a miserable pile of regret? You know the answer, don't be that guy.
Last thing, somehow I got involved in January 15. For whatever reason, no one was giving them any love the first week. I jumped in and did the best I could and I truly believe it was better for me than for anyone in January. Someone suggested to adopt a new quitter. That's a good move but if it works with your schedule, the resolve and strength you will get from adopting a month is immeasurable. That's what got me to the burn the boats NAFAR phase.
Good move reaching out. You have my digits from conducting, feel free to call me anytime after 9:15 ET.
I hated the days you are in. Now at 332 I am beyond it. You gotta hang in there. Caving will not make it better. These struggles we go through suck but for some reason we have to deal with them. Let this strengthen your quit and get your ass back on roll and in chat.
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You guys rock. I was a bit late texting back, but I am still quit today. I feel strengthened and also very humbled that I allowed myself to get so close to pissing it all away. The amount of support I received was immense. I am not going back and I need to return to the 'burn the boats' NAFAR stage as was mentioned. I was there before and then it went away when I got complacent.
This shit is very real. I am so proud to quit with you all.
Over to the new groups to pledge support.
Nate day 259
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You guys rock. I was a bit late texting back, but I am still quit today. I feel strengthened and also very humbled that I allowed myself to get so close to pissing it all away. The amount of support I received was immense. I am not going back and I need to return to the 'burn the boats' NAFAR stage as was mentioned. I was there before and then it went away when I got complacent.
This shit is very real. I am so proud to quit with you all.
Over to the new groups to pledge support.
Nate day 259
That's why brotherhood works, and why you did the right thing by coming here and asking for help. We are all addicts, and if I find myself in the same situation you were in, I pray I have the strength to come here and ask for help. I quit with you today Nate.
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You guys rock. I was a bit late texting back, but I am still quit today. I feel strengthened and also very humbled that I allowed myself to get so close to pissing it all away. The amount of support I received was immense. I am not going back and I need to return to the 'burn the boats' NAFAR stage as was mentioned. I was there before and then it went away when I got complacent.
This shit is very real. I am so proud to quit with you all.
Over to the new groups to pledge support.
Nate day 259
That's why brotherhood works, and why you did the right thing by coming here and asking for help. We are all addicts, and if I find myself in the same situation you were in, I pray I have the strength to come here and ask for help. I quit with you today Nate.
Kill names get ass later or something like that Nate. It is you that has the power Nate, always have. Dont loose your life to a dead plant in a plastic can.
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So, you're quit today. Good. You also used your tools and you are still quit today. Good.
Now, for a second of self-reflection, go back to your post where you communicate your plea for help. In that post you mention that you stopped posting religiously and have little interaction. Now that you've seen the outpouring of support to get you through that crisis, do you think it would be a good idea to change your level of roll posting and interaction? To me, it sounds like your quit foundation is not strong enough and needs some serious reinforcement. Don't build your quit house out of straw or sticks. Use bricks. Everyone who gave you support through that crisis and who posts roll in your quit group is a brick. I'm a brick too and you can use me to fortify your new house.
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So, you're quit today. Good. You also used your tools and you are still quit today. Good.
Now, for a second of self-reflection, go back to your post where you communicate your plea for help. In that post you mention that you stopped posting religiously and have little interaction. Now that you've seen the outpouring of support to get you through that crisis, do you think it would be a good idea to change your level of roll posting and interaction? To me, it sounds like your quit foundation is not strong enough and needs some serious reinforcement. Don't build your quit house out of straw or sticks. Use bricks. Everyone who gave you support through that crisis and who posts roll in your quit group is a brick. I'm a brick too and you can use me to fortify your new house.
Concur. Nice job using your tools.
Stay positive my man. Don't forget what you have done and what you will do today. You are a winner and are kicking nicotine to the curb. That is all good. Life will always have ups and downs. Remember that dipping will not change that. The only thing it will do is make things worse. 1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems. Think about that. What you are doing is amazing. You are now dealing with life while not under the influence. It is a bit scary at times but you have to embrace it. Take a step back and realize the way you used to handle problems and life's challenges.... You ran to a can of weed. No more. Now you just deal with life head on. It is pretty great my friend!
Stay on this. Stay positive. Get active, post roll EDD. I am quit with you today.
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A little over 3 weeks ago Nate shot a warning flare that he was in a bad place. If you read through the support he received in his intro and tips on how to strengthen his quit. On the same day, there was a longer string in Aug 14. Many have been asking for an update. Today Bass shared that Nate caved.
It's one thing to ask for help and to heed the counsel of your peers. It's another to toss out a whining help me plea and do nothing other than stuff your lip. I saw him post support in the new months a few times but nothing more.
If he comes back, he will need supporters. I will not be one of them. There are many people out there who care about their quit.
Sorry if I am over the top on this. Other than bobbugler who caved around 50 days, this is the only other one I can recall since from Aug 14 and it sucks.
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A little over 3 weeks ago Nate shot a warning flare that he was in a bad place. If you read through the support he received in his intro and tips on how to strengthen his quit. On the same day, there was a longer string in Aug 14. Many have been asking for an update. Today Bass shared that Nate caved.
It's one thing to ask for help and to heed the counsel of your peers. It's another to toss out a whining help me plea and do nothing other than stuff your lip. I saw him post support in the new months a few times but nothing more.
If he comes back, he will need supporters. I will not be one of them. There are many people out there who care about their quit.
Sorry if I am over the top on this. Other than bobbugler who caved around 50 days, this is the only other one I can recall since from Aug 14 and it sucks.
I cannot understand how after nearly 300 days of freedom the thought of voluntarily slapping on chains to rejoin the cult of the nic bitch's slaves sounds even remotely appealing.
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A little over 3 weeks ago Nate shot a warning flare that he was in a bad place. If you read through the support he received in his intro and tips on how to strengthen his quit. On the same day, there was a longer string in Aug 14. Many have been asking for an update. Today Bass shared that Nate caved.
It's one thing to ask for help and to heed the counsel of your peers. It's another to toss out a whining help me plea and do nothing other than stuff your lip. I saw him post support in the new months a few times but nothing more.
If he comes back, he will need supporters. I will not be one of them. There are many people out there who care about their quit.
Sorry if I am over the top on this. Other than bobbugler who caved around 50 days, this is the only other one I can recall since from Aug 14 and it sucks.
I cannot understand how after nearly 300 days of freedom the thought of voluntarily slapping on chains to rejoin the cult of the nic bitch's slaves sounds even remotely appealing.
Ktc works because it is a team. It takes a while to get that. To understand it. To embrace it. But once you buy in to the team approach, success is a million times easier. We all lied to and cheated ourselves about this addiction for a long long time. But it is another thing to kick your fellow team of baseball or softball players in the balls and walk off the field. That is what caving on your team feels like if you quit Ktc style.
Nate this is a pretty harsh post, but if you gone back I hope you take it to heart. Pm me. I know how to quit. But you gotta promise me every day that you won't kick me in the balls.
Caving is easy. Any dickwad can cave. It takes a real man (or woman) to quit.
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A little over 3 weeks ago Nate shot a warning flare that he was in a bad place. If you read through the support he received in his intro and tips on how to strengthen his quit. On the same day, there was a longer string in Aug 14. Many have been asking for an update. Today Bass shared that Nate caved.
It's one thing to ask for help and to heed the counsel of your peers. It's another to toss out a whining help me plea and do nothing other than stuff your lip. I saw him post support in the new months a few times but nothing more.
If he comes back, he will need supporters. I will not be one of them. There are many people out there who care about their quit.
Sorry if I am over the top on this. Other than bobbugler who caved around 50 days, this is the only other one I can recall since from Aug 14 and it sucks.
I cannot understand how after nearly 300 days of freedom the thought of voluntarily slapping on chains to rejoin the cult of the nic bitch's slaves sounds even remotely appealing.
Ktc works because it is a team. It takes a while to get that. To understand it. To embrace it. But once you buy in to the team approach, success is a million times easier. We all lied to and cheated ourselves about this addiction for a long long time. But it is another thing to kick your fellow team of baseball or softball players in the balls and walk off the field. That is what caving on your team feels like if you quit Ktc style.
Nate this is a pretty harsh post, but if you gone back I hope you take it to heart. Pm me. I know how to quit. But you gotta promise me every day that you won't kick me in the balls.
Caving is easy. Any dickwad can cave. It takes a real man (or woman) to quit.
Damn I can tell there's a lot of brotherhood and trust that involved here! All I can say is nate got a lot of people here that give a shit about you! We are all human and no ones perfect! Here are alone please make the right choice quit! Better yet get your ass back in here where you belong! Man up take your frigging medicine its better than dying!
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I'm back. I'm ready for the shitstorm. I give up. Day 1 and a response to the 3 questions tomorrow. I let you guys down. I know what it takes for success and what it takes to fuck it all up. I know I let my August brothers down. I'm going to bed now, but will post first thing in the morning. This is the only thing that has ever worked for me and I walked away from it. No excuses. I did the deal for the better part of a year and threw it away.
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I'm back. I'm ready for the shitstorm. I give up. Day 1 and a response to the 3 questions tomorrow. I let you guys down. I know what it takes for success and what it takes to fuck it all up. I know I let my August brothers down. I'm going to bed now, but will post first thing in the morning. This is the only thing that has ever worked for me and I walked away from it. No excuses. I did the deal for the better part of a year and threw it away.
I will be waiting, trust me.
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I'm back. I'm ready for the shitstorm. I give up. Day 1 and a response to the 3 questions tomorrow. I let you guys down. I know what it takes for success and what it takes to fuck it all up. I know I let my August brothers down. I'm going to bed now, but will post first thing in the morning. This is the only thing that has ever worked for me and I walked away from it. No excuses. I did the deal for the better part of a year and threw it away.
I will be waiting, trust me.
Oh, I've been waiting. In fact, I heard the exact shit Nate just posted via text a few days ago. I'll believe it when I see it, and even then I'll be pretty damned skeptical.
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I'm back. I'm ready for the shitstorm. I give up. Day 1 and a response to the 3 questions tomorrow. I let you guys down. I know what it takes for success and what it takes to fuck it all up. I know I let my August brothers down. I'm going to bed now, but will post first thing in the morning. This is the only thing that has ever worked for me and I walked away from it. No excuses. I did the deal for the better part of a year and threw it away.
I will be waiting, trust me.
Oh, I've been waiting. In fact, I heard the exact shit Nate just posted via text a few days ago. I'll believe it when I see it, and even then I'll be pretty damned skeptical.
This explanation better be epic.
You taste success and piss it away? You obviously have zero respect for yourself, your brothers, or this site. Damn, man...
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Just remember a cave in isn't the end of it all. In that 3 and a third months you were that much closer to your HOF goal and you were that much better off for it. I know it must feel like total shit to let yourself fail but you also have to remember to look at the positives...how much money you saved, how happy you were to let your wife know she could kiss you and not get stained teeth up in her faith. Its a struggle but youre strong for making it as long as you did! Hang in there bud!
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Just remember a cave in isn't the end of it all. In that 3 and a third months you were that much closer to your HOF goal and you were that much better off for it. I know it must feel like total shit to let yourself fail but you also have to remember to look at the positives...how much money you saved, how happy you were to let your wife know she could kiss you and not get stained teeth up in her faith. Its a struggle but youre strong for making it as long as you did! Hang in there bud!
Ball coddling bullshit.
Nate is a serial caver and has yet to prove that he respects anyone here or the site itself.
The fact that he's already putting off posting a new day 1 until tomorrow morning speaks volumes.
I won't be holding my breath.
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Just remember a cave in isn't the end of it all. In that 3 and a third months you were that much closer to your HOF goal and you were that much better off for it. I know it must feel like total shit to let yourself fail but you also have to remember to look at the positives...how much money you saved, how happy you were to let your wife know she could kiss you and not get stained teeth up in her faith. Its a struggle but youre strong for making it as long as you did! Hang in there bud!
No.
Sorry.
We don't pat people on the ass and offer up a, "Way to go! You gave it a good try this time!". That's not how we do here and you need to wrap your head around that. There is no strength in making it "x" far and pissing it all away. None.
Real quitting is a one time deal. Own it and... Done. Anything less weakens this house and we can't afford that. We can't afford a wishy-washy attitude towards a cave. It benefits no one. Our response will be hardcore because the consequences of giving in to our addiction are equally hardcore.
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Wow. What crappy reading this thread is. Tons of guys reachin out and offering help just to have their heads pooped on by a serial caver. Does it ever stop with these serial cavers?
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What... the... FUCK!?!?!?
I'll admit... you're going to get the brunt of something that's been bubbling up inside of me for a while. Not 100% of it is your fault per se, but you need to hear it cause you're part of it.
There are FAR too many people around these hallowed halls lately with this "better luck next time" attitude. Plain and simple, that doesn't cut it at KillTheCan.org. Its that bad ass attitude that has made us the best quit site on the web and the reason we're getting ready to crack 20,000 members.
I'm glad your wife was crying. I'm glad she doesn't think you can do it. I'm glad you've broken that trust with her and with us.
I'm glad because it's going to make it that much harder for you to succeed here.
However, what's I'm MOST glad about is that you seem to recognize how colossal of a fuck up you just completed. You also seem to realize what led you down a path back toward your addiction and you SEEM to be doing things to remedy that. Good on you. In your cave admission speech, you talk about how you stopped reaching out to your quit brothers and stopped texting. Send me a PM and you'll have my number as another number in your quit arsenal.
You made me go back and re-read this today - thank you for that. You just lit a fire under ol Chewie's ass.
http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/04/chew ... ame-creed/ (http://blog.killthecan.org/2013/04/chewies-hall-of-fame-creed/)
ChewieÂ’s Hall Of Fame Creed
I promise to remember the first 2 weeks of my quitÂ…
I promise to remember WHY I quit in the first placeÂ…
I promise to take things a day at a timeÂ…
I promise to recognize little successesÂ…
I promise to post roll on a regular basisÂ…
I promise to recognize those before meÂ…
I promise to recognize that I have great friends on KillTheCan.orgÂ…
I promise to REMEMBER why those people are my friend and what brought us togetherÂ…
I promise to have a way to get a hold of a brother and a way for others to get ahold of me (email, cell phone, etc.)
I promise that I wonÂ’t cave without getting permission from a quit brotherÂ…
I promise to recognize that there will always be a reason NOT to dipÂ…
I promise to be there for a brother in needÂ…
I promise that I wonÂ’t forget all IÂ’ve gone through to get to where I am today.
The POWER of KillTheCan.org is that we stand together. Don't be the guy that weakens the system by bringing weakness into the fold. Don't be the guy that does great time and time again through 70 days of quit only to come back and post another day 1.
Don't be that guy. I'll be waiting for your PM.
chewie
Bump from the Jedi quitter.
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What happened - I used the tools for 270 days. Legitimately. That is not an exaggeration and people can challenge that or whatever - but I 100% used the tools. I posted 99.9% role and texted a group of guys every single day. Every day. I reached out and was honest when I felt weak. I helped out the newcomers. It worked.
I think as time went on, I found myself spending less time on the site, not posting roll until later in the day and got a bit lax. Ultimately, in the middle of February, I went on a deep emotional tailspin for a few days (unrelated to dip), didn't reach out to fellow quiters (to be honest, didn't think about dipping), but got very fatalistic in my world view. I wasn't suicidal, but for a few day span I gave up on life. I won't get into the specifics unless someone wants to really know and I can PM them. In that time period, I caved. The day before I caved, I went to bed I was shaking over this emotional tailspin (again, no thought of nicotine in my mind). The next day, I said fuck it. I had posted roll in the morning, texted guys as well. At around 1pm, the thought crossed my mind, and that was it. For the last four weeks, I've been dipping.
That's fine if you want to label me as a serial quitter. I'm on day one and not making excuses. What am I going to do differently? In terms of actions, I'm going to do what I did before. In terms of my mind - I must completely destroy the idea that I can get back again if I ever caved. I need to fully get into my bones NAFAR. That is the thing that got me fucked.
To the men of August 2014 and June 2014 - I am sorry.
I'm ready for the abuse. If it strengthens your quit - awesome.
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What happened - I used the tools for 270 days. Legitimately. That is not an exaggeration and people can challenge that or whatever - but I 100% used the tools. I posted 99.9% role and texted a group of guys every single day. Every day. I reached out and was honest when I felt weak. I helped out the newcomers. It worked.
I think as time went on, I found myself spending less time on the site, not posting roll until later in the day and got a bit lax. Ultimately, in the middle of February, I went on a deep emotional tailspin for a few days (unrelated to dip), didn't reach out to fellow quiters (to be honest, didn't think about dipping), but got very fatalistic in my world view. I wasn't suicidal, but for a few day span I gave up on life. I won't get into the specifics unless someone wants to really know and I can PM them. In that time period, I caved. The day before I caved, I went to bed I was shaking over this emotional tailspin (again, no thought of nicotine in my mind). The next day, I said fuck it. I had posted roll in the morning, texted guys as well. At around 1pm, the thought crossed my mind, and that was it. For the last four weeks, I've been dipping.
That's fine if you want to label me as a serial quitter. I'm on day one and not making excuses. What am I going to do differently? In terms of actions, I'm going to do what I did before. In terms of my mind - I must completely destroy the idea that I can get back again if I ever caved. I need to fully get into my bones NAFAR. That is the thing that got me fucked.
To the men of August 2014 and June 2014 - I am sorry.
I'm ready for the abuse. If it strengthens your quit - awesome.
What a load of fucking bullshit. You didn't even have the balls to respond to any of my fucking texts after you fucking caved. What kind of brother hood is that. I had your back since June of last year, texted with you after you shit all over our group and talked you through some dark times. Your inability to use the tools hurt my quit and for that fuck you!!!
You know why you will fail....you never have been able to hate the bitch, you worship her and put her on a pedestal which dooms your ass to failure. I asked you to text me each day why you hated her and you did for a while but even after I COULD TELL YOU STILL WANTED HER TO GIVE IT TO YOU UP YOUR ASS.
I am a serial quitter you fuck wad you are a serial caver and a waste of fucking bandwidth.
June 15 I'd suggest you don't waste your time here.
For you coddlers out there it doesn't work for a dude like this go rub someone else's balls.
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What happened - I used the tools for 270 days. Legitimately. That is not an exaggeration and people can challenge that or whatever - but I 100% used the tools. I posted 99.9% role and texted a group of guys every single day. Every day. I reached out and was honest when I felt weak. I helped out the newcomers. It worked.
I think as time went on, I found myself spending less time on the site, not posting roll until later in the day and got a bit lax. Ultimately, in the middle of February, I went on a deep emotional tailspin for a few days (unrelated to dip), didn't reach out to fellow quiters (to be honest, didn't think about dipping), but got very fatalistic in my world view. I wasn't suicidal, but for a few day span I gave up on life. I won't get into the specifics unless someone wants to really know and I can PM them. In that time period, I caved. The day before I caved, I went to bed I was shaking over this emotional tailspin (again, no thought of nicotine in my mind). The next day, I said fuck it. I had posted roll in the morning, texted guys as well. At around 1pm, the thought crossed my mind, and that was it. For the last four weeks, I've been dipping.
That's fine if you want to label me as a serial quitter. I'm on day one and not making excuses. What am I going to do differently? In terms of actions, I'm going to do what I did before. In terms of my mind - I must completely destroy the idea that I can get back again if I ever caved. I need to fully get into my bones NAFAR. That is the thing that got me fucked.
To the men of August 2014 and June 2014 - I am sorry.
I'm ready for the abuse. If it strengthens your quit - awesome.
What a load of fucking bullshit. You didn't even have the balls to respond to any of my fucking texts after you fucking caved. What kind of brother hood is that. I had your back since June of last year, texted with you after you shit all over our group and talked you through some dark times. Your inability to use the tools hurt my quit and for that fuck you!!!
You know why you will fail....you never have been able to hate the bitch, you worship her and put her on a pedestal which dooms your ass to failure. I asked you to text me each day why you hated her and you did for a while but even after I COULD TELL YOU STILL WANTED HER TO GIVE IT TO YOU UP YOUR ASS.
I am a serial quitter you fuck wad you are a serial caver and a waste of fucking bandwidth.
June 15 I'd suggest you don't waste your time here.
For you coddlers out there it doesn't work for a dude like this go rub someone else's balls.
My 270's totally sucked ass too BUT you gotta Fucking expect it to happen. As a matter of fact, I had damn near 3 fucking months of suck. I chose to not dip because my word is just that. My word. Without that I have nothing.
Enough of the ball coddling bullshit around here. You said it's ok if you are labeled a serial caver, well that's exactly what you are. You shit on June and Aug 14 already. Is it time to shit on another month?
You had the tools and you chose to shit all over them. I'm not buying what you are selling.
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What happened - I used the tools for 270 days. Legitimately. That is not an exaggeration and people can challenge that or whatever - but I 100% used the tools. I posted 99.9% role and texted a group of guys every single day. Every day. I reached out and was honest when I felt weak. I helped out the newcomers. It worked.
I think as time went on, I found myself spending less time on the site, not posting roll until later in the day and got a bit lax. Ultimately, in the middle of February, I went on a deep emotional tailspin for a few days (unrelated to dip), didn't reach out to fellow quiters (to be honest, didn't think about dipping), but got very fatalistic in my world view. I wasn't suicidal, but for a few day span I gave up on life. I won't get into the specifics unless someone wants to really know and I can PM them. In that time period, I caved. The day before I caved, I went to bed I was shaking over this emotional tailspin (again, no thought of nicotine in my mind). The next day, I said fuck it. I had posted roll in the morning, texted guys as well. At around 1pm, the thought crossed my mind, and that was it. For the last four weeks, I've been dipping.
That's fine if you want to label me as a serial quitter. I'm on day one and not making excuses. What am I going to do differently? In terms of actions, I'm going to do what I did before. In terms of my mind - I must completely destroy the idea that I can get back again if I ever caved. I need to fully get into my bones NAFAR. That is the thing that got me fucked.
To the men of August 2014 and June 2014 - I am sorry.
I'm ready for the abuse. If it strengthens your quit - awesome.
What a load of fucking bullshit. You didn't even have the balls to respond to any of my fucking texts after you fucking caved. What kind of brother hood is that. I had your back since June of last year, texted with you after you shit all over our group and talked you through some dark times. Your inability to use the tools hurt my quit and for that fuck you!!!
You know why you will fail....you never have been able to hate the bitch, you worship her and put her on a pedestal which dooms your ass to failure. I asked you to text me each day why you hated her and you did for a while but even after I COULD TELL YOU STILL WANTED HER TO GIVE IT TO YOU UP YOUR ASS.
I am a serial quitter you fuck wad you are a serial caver and a waste of fucking bandwidth.
June 15 I'd suggest you don't waste your time here.
For you coddlers out there it doesn't work for a dude like this go rub someone else's balls.
My 270's totally sucked ass too BUT you gotta Fucking expect it to happen. As a matter of fact, I had damn near 3 fucking months of suck. I chose to not dip because my word is just that. My word. Without that I have nothing.
Enough of the ball coddling bullshit around here. You said it's ok if you are labeled a serial caver, well that's exactly what you are. You shit on June and Aug 14 already. Is it time to shit on another month?
You had the tools and you chose to shit all over them. I'm not buying what you are selling.
So you posted roll and THEN caved in the afternoon?
I could've been able to muster a little bit of respect for you if you hadn't promised not to use that day. Fucking ridiculous. A serial caver is exactly what you are and it's what you'll remain since you've proven that your word isn't worth a damn.
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What happened - I used the tools for 270 days. Legitimately. That is not an exaggeration and people can challenge that or whatever - but I 100% used the tools. I posted 99.9% role and texted a group of guys every single day. Every day. I reached out and was honest when I felt weak. I helped out the newcomers. It worked.
I think as time went on, I found myself spending less time on the site, not posting roll until later in the day and got a bit lax. Ultimately, in the middle of February, I went on a deep emotional tailspin for a few days (unrelated to dip), didn't reach out to fellow quiters (to be honest, didn't think about dipping), but got very fatalistic in my world view. I wasn't suicidal, but for a few day span I gave up on life. I won't get into the specifics unless someone wants to really know and I can PM them. In that time period, I caved. The day before I caved, I went to bed I was shaking over this emotional tailspin (again, no thought of nicotine in my mind). The next day, I said fuck it. I had posted roll in the morning, texted guys as well. At around 1pm, the thought crossed my mind, and that was it. For the last four weeks, I've been dipping.
That's fine if you want to label me as a serial quitter. I'm on day one and not making excuses. What am I going to do differently? In terms of actions, I'm going to do what I did before. In terms of my mind - I must completely destroy the idea that I can get back again if I ever caved. I need to fully get into my bones NAFAR. That is the thing that got me fucked.
To the men of August 2014 and June 2014 - I am sorry.
I'm ready for the abuse. If it strengthens your quit - awesome.
What a load of fucking bullshit. You didn't even have the balls to respond to any of my fucking texts after you fucking caved. What kind of brother hood is that. I had your back since June of last year, texted with you after you shit all over our group and talked you through some dark times. Your inability to use the tools hurt my quit and for that fuck you!!!
You know why you will fail....you never have been able to hate the bitch, you worship her and put her on a pedestal which dooms your ass to failure. I asked you to text me each day why you hated her and you did for a while but even after I COULD TELL YOU STILL WANTED HER TO GIVE IT TO YOU UP YOUR ASS.
I am a serial quitter you fuck wad you are a serial caver and a waste of fucking bandwidth.
June 15 I'd suggest you don't waste your time here.
For you coddlers out there it doesn't work for a dude like this go rub someone else's balls.
My 270's totally sucked ass too BUT you gotta Fucking expect it to happen. As a matter of fact, I had damn near 3 fucking months of suck. I chose to not dip because my word is just that. My word. Without that I have nothing.
Enough of the ball coddling bullshit around here. You said it's ok if you are labeled a serial caver, well that's exactly what you are. You shit on June and Aug 14 already. Is it time to shit on another month?
You had the tools and you chose to shit all over them. I'm not buying what you are selling.
So you posted roll and THEN caved in the afternoon?
I could've been able to muster a little bit of respect for you if you hadn't promised not to use that day. Fucking ridiculous. A serial caver is exactly what you are and it's what you'll remain since you've proven that your word isn't worth a damn.
this pisses me off
"I'm ready for the abuse. If it strengthens your quit - awesome."
You should be banned. If you can cave and just come back multiple times what is to stop the next pussy who decides to throw cancer in their lip. Fuck this I vote for a BAN and you are really fucking lucky my vote doesn't count!
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What happened - I used the tools for 270 days. Legitimately. That is not an exaggeration and people can challenge that or whatever - but I 100% used the tools. I posted 99.9% role and texted a group of guys every single day. Every day. I reached out and was honest when I felt weak. I helped out the newcomers. It worked.
I think as time went on, I found myself spending less time on the site, not posting roll until later in the day and got a bit lax. Ultimately, in the middle of February, I went on a deep emotional tailspin for a few days (unrelated to dip), didn't reach out to fellow quiters (to be honest, didn't think about dipping), but got very fatalistic in my world view. I wasn't suicidal, but for a few day span I gave up on life. I won't get into the specifics unless someone wants to really know and I can PM them. In that time period, I caved. The day before I caved, I went to bed I was shaking over this emotional tailspin (again, no thought of nicotine in my mind). The next day, I said fuck it. I had posted roll in the morning, texted guys as well. At around 1pm, the thought crossed my mind, and that was it. For the last four weeks, I've been dipping.
That's fine if you want to label me as a serial quitter. I'm on day one and not making excuses. What am I going to do differently? In terms of actions, I'm going to do what I did before. In terms of my mind - I must completely destroy the idea that I can get back again if I ever caved. I need to fully get into my bones NAFAR. That is the thing that got me fucked.
To the men of August 2014 and June 2014 - I am sorry.
I'm ready for the abuse. If it strengthens your quit - awesome.
What a load of fucking bullshit. You didn't even have the balls to respond to any of my fucking texts after you fucking caved. What kind of brother hood is that. I had your back since June of last year, texted with you after you shit all over our group and talked you through some dark times. Your inability to use the tools hurt my quit and for that fuck you!!!
You know why you will fail....you never have been able to hate the bitch, you worship her and put her on a pedestal which dooms your ass to failure. I asked you to text me each day why you hated her and you did for a while but even after I COULD TELL YOU STILL WANTED HER TO GIVE IT TO YOU UP YOUR ASS.
I am a serial quitter you fuck wad you are a serial caver and a waste of fucking bandwidth.
June 15 I'd suggest you don't waste your time here.
For you coddlers out there it doesn't work for a dude like this go rub someone else's balls.
My 270's totally sucked ass too BUT you gotta Fucking expect it to happen. As a matter of fact, I had damn near 3 fucking months of suck. I chose to not dip because my word is just that. My word. Without that I have nothing.
Enough of the ball coddling bullshit around here. You said it's ok if you are labeled a serial caver, well that's exactly what you are. You shit on June and Aug 14 already. Is it time to shit on another month?
You had the tools and you chose to shit all over them. I'm not buying what you are selling.
So you posted roll and THEN caved in the afternoon?
I could've been able to muster a little bit of respect for you if you hadn't promised not to use that day. Fucking ridiculous. A serial caver is exactly what you are and it's what you'll remain since you've proven that your word isn't worth a damn.
this pisses me off
"I'm ready for the abuse. If it strengthens your quit - awesome."
You should be banned. If you can cave and just come back multiple times what is to stop the next pussy who decides to throw cancer in their lip. Fuck this I vote for a BAN and you are really fucking lucky my vote doesn't count!
I know there's nothing I could say that you won't give me shit about - and you're right Jad.
I'm NOT trying to justify. I know I fucked up.
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What happened - I used the tools for 270 days. Legitimately. That is not an exaggeration and people can challenge that or whatever - but I 100% used the tools. I posted 99.9% role and texted a group of guys every single day. Every day. I reached out and was honest when I felt weak. I helped out the newcomers. It worked.
I think as time went on, I found myself spending less time on the site, not posting roll until later in the day and got a bit lax. Ultimately, in the middle of February, I went on a deep emotional tailspin for a few days (unrelated to dip), didn't reach out to fellow quiters (to be honest, didn't think about dipping), but got very fatalistic in my world view. I wasn't suicidal, but for a few day span I gave up on life. I won't get into the specifics unless someone wants to really know and I can PM them. In that time period, I caved. The day before I caved, I went to bed I was shaking over this emotional tailspin (again, no thought of nicotine in my mind). The next day, I said fuck it. I had posted roll in the morning, texted guys as well. At around 1pm, the thought crossed my mind, and that was it. For the last four weeks, I've been dipping.
That's fine if you want to label me as a serial quitter. I'm on day one and not making excuses. What am I going to do differently? In terms of actions, I'm going to do what I did before. In terms of my mind - I must completely destroy the idea that I can get back again if I ever caved. I need to fully get into my bones NAFAR. That is the thing that got me fucked.
To the men of August 2014 and June 2014 - I am sorry.
I'm ready for the abuse. If it strengthens your quit - awesome.
What a load of fucking bullshit. You didn't even have the balls to respond to any of my fucking texts after you fucking caved. What kind of brother hood is that. I had your back since June of last year, texted with you after you shit all over our group and talked you through some dark times. Your inability to use the tools hurt my quit and for that fuck you!!!
You know why you will fail....you never have been able to hate the bitch, you worship her and put her on a pedestal which dooms your ass to failure. I asked you to text me each day why you hated her and you did for a while but even after I COULD TELL YOU STILL WANTED HER TO GIVE IT TO YOU UP YOUR ASS.
I am a serial quitter you fuck wad you are a serial caver and a waste of fucking bandwidth.
June 15 I'd suggest you don't waste your time here.
For you coddlers out there it doesn't work for a dude like this go rub someone else's balls.
My 270's totally sucked ass too BUT you gotta Fucking expect it to happen. As a matter of fact, I had damn near 3 fucking months of suck. I chose to not dip because my word is just that. My word. Without that I have nothing.
Enough of the ball coddling bullshit around here. You said it's ok if you are labeled a serial caver, well that's exactly what you are. You shit on June and Aug 14 already. Is it time to shit on another month?
You had the tools and you chose to shit all over them. I'm not buying what you are selling.
So you posted roll and THEN caved in the afternoon?
I could've been able to muster a little bit of respect for you if you hadn't promised not to use that day. Fucking ridiculous. A serial caver is exactly what you are and it's what you'll remain since you've proven that your word isn't worth a damn.
this pisses me off
"I'm ready for the abuse. If it strengthens your quit - awesome."
You should be banned. If you can cave and just come back multiple times what is to stop the next pussy who decides to throw cancer in their lip. Fuck this I vote for a BAN and you are really fucking lucky my vote doesn't count!
I know there's nothing I could say that you won't give me shit about - and you're right Jad.
I'm NOT trying to justify. I know I fucked up.
Again. You fucked up, again.
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You're right. I fucked up twice.
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You're right. I fucked up twice.
How many times until you stop shitting on people who have supported you? How many times until your word is actually worth a shit? How many times do you need to keep shoving cancer into your lip for you to finally realize you're going to kill yourself?
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What happened - I used the tools for 270 days. Legitimately. That is not an exaggeration and people can challenge that or whatever - but I 100% used the tools. I posted 99.9% role and texted a group of guys every single day. Every day. I reached out and was honest when I felt weak. I helped out the newcomers. It worked.
I think as time went on, I found myself spending less time on the site, not posting roll until later in the day and got a bit lax. Ultimately, in the middle of February, I went on a deep emotional tailspin for a few days (unrelated to dip), didn't reach out to fellow quiters (to be honest, didn't think about dipping), but got very fatalistic in my world view. I wasn't suicidal, but for a few day span I gave up on life. I won't get into the specifics unless someone wants to really know and I can PM them. In that time period, I caved. The day before I caved, I went to bed I was shaking over this emotional tailspin (again, no thought of nicotine in my mind). The next day, I said fuck it. I had posted roll in the morning, texted guys as well. At around 1pm, the thought crossed my mind, and that was it. For the last four weeks, I've been dipping.
That's fine if you want to label me as a serial quitter. I'm on day one and not making excuses. What am I going to do differently? In terms of actions, I'm going to do what I did before. In terms of my mind - I must completely destroy the idea that I can get back again if I ever caved. I need to fully get into my bones NAFAR. That is the thing that got me fucked.
To the men of August 2014 and June 2014 - I am sorry.
I'm ready for the abuse. If it strengthens your quit - awesome.
What a load of fucking bullshit. You didn't even have the balls to respond to any of my fucking texts after you fucking caved. What kind of brother hood is that. I had your back since June of last year, texted with you after you shit all over our group and talked you through some dark times. Your inability to use the tools hurt my quit and for that fuck you!!!
You know why you will fail....you never have been able to hate the bitch, you worship her and put her on a pedestal which dooms your ass to failure. I asked you to text me each day why you hated her and you did for a while but even after I COULD TELL YOU STILL WANTED HER TO GIVE IT TO YOU UP YOUR ASS.
I am a serial quitter you fuck wad you are a serial caver and a waste of fucking bandwidth.
June 15 I'd suggest you don't waste your time here.
For you coddlers out there it doesn't work for a dude like this go rub someone else's balls.
My 270's totally sucked ass too BUT you gotta Fucking expect it to happen. As a matter of fact, I had damn near 3 fucking months of suck. I chose to not dip because my word is just that. My word. Without that I have nothing.
Enough of the ball coddling bullshit around here. You said it's ok if you are labeled a serial caver, well that's exactly what you are. You shit on June and Aug 14 already. Is it time to shit on another month?
You had the tools and you chose to shit all over them. I'm not buying what you are selling.
So you posted roll and THEN caved in the afternoon?
I could've been able to muster a little bit of respect for you if you hadn't promised not to use that day. Fucking ridiculous. A serial caver is exactly what you are and it's what you'll remain since you've proven that your word isn't worth a damn.
this pisses me off
"I'm ready for the abuse. If it strengthens your quit - awesome."
You should be banned. If you can cave and just come back multiple times what is to stop the next pussy who decides to throw cancer in their lip. Fuck this I vote for a BAN and you are really fucking lucky my vote doesn't count!
I know there's nothing I could say that you won't give me shit about - and you're right Jad.
I'm NOT trying to justify. I know I fucked up.
Again. You fucked up, again.
Really?
You used the tools on this site?
The ones that say "Never again (for any reason)?"
You used that one too?
Liar.
Stop regaling in your accomplishments and see the sauce you are spewing is weak. You 100% failed my friend. Stop thinking your were "using the tools here".
Using the tools means that you use the tools when the chips are down....not when it's convenient to you.
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What happened - I used the tools for 270 days. Legitimately. That is not an exaggeration and people can challenge that or whatever - but I 100% used the tools. I posted 99.9% role and texted a group of guys every single day. Every day. I reached out and was honest when I felt weak. I helped out the newcomers. It worked.
I think as time went on, I found myself spending less time on the site, not posting roll until later in the day and got a bit lax. Ultimately, in the middle of February, I went on a deep emotional tailspin for a few days (unrelated to dip), didn't reach out to fellow quiters (to be honest, didn't think about dipping), but got very fatalistic in my world view. I wasn't suicidal, but for a few day span I gave up on life. I won't get into the specifics unless someone wants to really know and I can PM them. In that time period, I caved. The day before I caved, I went to bed I was shaking over this emotional tailspin (again, no thought of nicotine in my mind). The next day, I said fuck it. I had posted roll in the morning, texted guys as well. At around 1pm, the thought crossed my mind, and that was it. For the last four weeks, I've been dipping.
That's fine if you want to label me as a serial quitter. I'm on day one and not making excuses. What am I going to do differently? In terms of actions, I'm going to do what I did before. In terms of my mind - I must completely destroy the idea that I can get back again if I ever caved. I need to fully get into my bones NAFAR. That is the thing that got me fucked.
To the men of August 2014 and June 2014 - I am sorry.
I'm ready for the abuse. If it strengthens your quit - awesome.
What a load of fucking bullshit. You didn't even have the balls to respond to any of my fucking texts after you fucking caved. What kind of brother hood is that. I had your back since June of last year, texted with you after you shit all over our group and talked you through some dark times. Your inability to use the tools hurt my quit and for that fuck you!!!
You know why you will fail....you never have been able to hate the bitch, you worship her and put her on a pedestal which dooms your ass to failure. I asked you to text me each day why you hated her and you did for a while but even after I COULD TELL YOU STILL WANTED HER TO GIVE IT TO YOU UP YOUR ASS.
I am a serial quitter you fuck wad you are a serial caver and a waste of fucking bandwidth.
June 15 I'd suggest you don't waste your time here.
For you coddlers out there it doesn't work for a dude like this go rub someone else's balls.
My 270's totally sucked ass too BUT you gotta Fucking expect it to happen. As a matter of fact, I had damn near 3 fucking months of suck. I chose to not dip because my word is just that. My word. Without that I have nothing.
Enough of the ball coddling bullshit around here. You said it's ok if you are labeled a serial caver, well that's exactly what you are. You shit on June and Aug 14 already. Is it time to shit on another month?
You had the tools and you chose to shit all over them. I'm not buying what you are selling.
So you posted roll and THEN caved in the afternoon?
I could've been able to muster a little bit of respect for you if you hadn't promised not to use that day. Fucking ridiculous. A serial caver is exactly what you are and it's what you'll remain since you've proven that your word isn't worth a damn.
this pisses me off
"I'm ready for the abuse. If it strengthens your quit - awesome."
You should be banned. If you can cave and just come back multiple times what is to stop the next pussy who decides to throw cancer in their lip. Fuck this I vote for a BAN and you are really fucking lucky my vote doesn't count!
I know there's nothing I could say that you won't give me shit about - and you're right Jad.
I'm NOT trying to justify. I know I fucked up.
Again. You fucked up, again.
Really?
You used the tools on this site?
The ones that say "Never again (for any reason)?"
You used that one too?
Liar.
Stop regaling in your accomplishments and see the sauce you are spewing is weak. You 100% failed my friend. Stop thinking your were "using the tools here".
Using the tools means that you use the tools when the chips are down....not when it's convenient to you.
You said that you would stand tall when the nic bitch called. I had you hunt you down in Oct/Nov. This is bullshit, the fact a promise means nothing to you? Your word? The brotherhood?
That's all we have here, very few people know anyone walking in the door, yet we all are willing to help you, give up our emails, cell phone numbers, with out question. And you throw all that away twice?
Keep your worthless words, you threw all that away for a god damn dead plant in a plastic can? All of this is worth less than a cost of a can? You threw this away for $5.00 dollar fix like a FN meth head.
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What happened - I used the tools for 270 days. Legitimately. That is not an exaggeration and people can challenge that or whatever - but I 100% used the tools. I posted 99.9% role and texted a group of guys every single day. Every day. I reached out and was honest when I felt weak. I helped out the newcomers. It worked.
I think as time went on, I found myself spending less time on the site, not posting roll until later in the day and got a bit lax. Ultimately, in the middle of February, I went on a deep emotional tailspin for a few days (unrelated to dip), didn't reach out to fellow quiters (to be honest, didn't think about dipping), but got very fatalistic in my world view. I wasn't suicidal, but for a few day span I gave up on life. I won't get into the specifics unless someone wants to really know and I can PM them. In that time period, I caved. The day before I caved, I went to bed I was shaking over this emotional tailspin (again, no thought of nicotine in my mind). The next day, I said fuck it. I had posted roll in the morning, texted guys as well. At around 1pm, the thought crossed my mind, and that was it. For the last four weeks, I've been dipping.
That's fine if you want to label me as a serial quitter. I'm on day one and not making excuses. What am I going to do differently? In terms of actions, I'm going to do what I did before. In terms of my mind - I must completely destroy the idea that I can get back again if I ever caved. I need to fully get into my bones NAFAR. That is the thing that got me fucked.
To the men of August 2014 and June 2014 - I am sorry.
I'm ready for the abuse. If it strengthens your quit - awesome.
What a load of fucking bullshit. You didn't even have the balls to respond to any of my fucking texts after you fucking caved. What kind of brother hood is that. I had your back since June of last year, texted with you after you shit all over our group and talked you through some dark times. Your inability to use the tools hurt my quit and for that fuck you!!!
You know why you will fail....you never have been able to hate the bitch, you worship her and put her on a pedestal which dooms your ass to failure. I asked you to text me each day why you hated her and you did for a while but even after I COULD TELL YOU STILL WANTED HER TO GIVE IT TO YOU UP YOUR ASS.
I am a serial quitter you fuck wad you are a serial caver and a waste of fucking bandwidth.
June 15 I'd suggest you don't waste your time here.
For you coddlers out there it doesn't work for a dude like this go rub someone else's balls.
My 270's totally sucked ass too BUT you gotta Fucking expect it to happen. As a matter of fact, I had damn near 3 fucking months of suck. I chose to not dip because my word is just that. My word. Without that I have nothing.
Enough of the ball coddling bullshit around here. You said it's ok if you are labeled a serial caver, well that's exactly what you are. You shit on June and Aug 14 already. Is it time to shit on another month?
You had the tools and you chose to shit all over them. I'm not buying what you are selling.
So you posted roll and THEN caved in the afternoon?
I could've been able to muster a little bit of respect for you if you hadn't promised not to use that day. Fucking ridiculous. A serial caver is exactly what you are and it's what you'll remain since you've proven that your word isn't worth a damn.
this pisses me off
"I'm ready for the abuse. If it strengthens your quit - awesome."
You should be banned. If you can cave and just come back multiple times what is to stop the next pussy who decides to throw cancer in their lip. Fuck this I vote for a BAN and you are really fucking lucky my vote doesn't count!
I know there's nothing I could say that you won't give me shit about - and you're right Jad.
I'm NOT trying to justify. I know I fucked up.
Again. You fucked up, again.
Really?
You used the tools on this site?
The ones that say "Never again (for any reason)?"
You used that one too?
Liar.
Stop regaling in your accomplishments and see the sauce you are spewing is weak. You 100% failed my friend. Stop thinking your were "using the tools here".
Using the tools means that you use the tools when the chips are down....not when it's convenient to you.
You said that you would stand tall when the nic bitch called. I had you hunt you down in Oct/Nov. This is bullshit, the fact a promise means nothing to you? Your word? The brotherhood?
That's all we have here, very few people know anyone walking in the door, yet we all are willing to help you, give up our emails, cell phone numbers, with out question. And you throw all that away twice?
Keep your worthless words, you threw all that away for a god damn dead plant in a plastic can? All of this is worth less than a cost of a can? You threw this away for $5.00 dollar fix like a FN meth head.
Bullshit. This whole thing smells of fucking bullshit.
You had the site working with you. You used it on your terms only. You had brothers texting you. You ignored them because it didn't fit with where you were.
Cannot count yesterday as a success if you fail today. That is how it works with addiction. I don't care whether it is nicotine, booze or drugs, or whatever...if you fail today, any past successes you have had a washed out. They count for zero.
It is clear that you have not taken this seriously enough to stay clean. You need to firmly unplant your head from your ass and accept something:
You are an addict.
You will lie, cheat and steal. You will lie to your brothers and yourself. You will cheat yourself out of life. You will steal from others' quit by coming back again and again and damaging their with what you call "using the tools".
So, I suggest you ask yourself some very serious questions about "this" quit. Is it going to be "the Quit"? Or are you just going to limp-dick along and fuck with everyone's else's mojo?
Be clear on what you are doing. Don't be a fuck up. Right now, you are a fuck up.
EDIT: included candoit's response because it is spot on and I don't want to bump him.
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What happened - I used the tools for 270 days. Legitimately. That is not an exaggeration and people can challenge that or whatever - but I 100% used the tools. I posted 99.9% role and texted a group of guys every single day. Every day. I reached out and was honest when I felt weak. I helped out the newcomers. It worked.
I think as time went on, I found myself spending less time on the site, not posting roll until later in the day and got a bit lax. Ultimately, in the middle of February, I went on a deep emotional tailspin for a few days (unrelated to dip), didn't reach out to fellow quiters (to be honest, didn't think about dipping), but got very fatalistic in my world view. I wasn't suicidal, but for a few day span I gave up on life. I won't get into the specifics unless someone wants to really know and I can PM them. In that time period, I caved. The day before I caved, I went to bed I was shaking over this emotional tailspin (again, no thought of nicotine in my mind). The next day, I said fuck it. I had posted roll in the morning, texted guys as well. At around 1pm, the thought crossed my mind, and that was it. For the last four weeks, I've been dipping.
That's fine if you want to label me as a serial quitter. I'm on day one and not making excuses. What am I going to do differently? In terms of actions, I'm going to do what I did before. In terms of my mind - I must completely destroy the idea that I can get back again if I ever caved. I need to fully get into my bones NAFAR. That is the thing that got me fucked.
To the men of August 2014 and June 2014 - I am sorry.
I'm ready for the abuse. If it strengthens your quit - awesome.
What a load of fucking bullshit. You didn't even have the balls to respond to any of my fucking texts after you fucking caved. What kind of brother hood is that. I had your back since June of last year, texted with you after you shit all over our group and talked you through some dark times. Your inability to use the tools hurt my quit and for that fuck you!!!
You know why you will fail....you never have been able to hate the bitch, you worship her and put her on a pedestal which dooms your ass to failure. I asked you to text me each day why you hated her and you did for a while but even after I COULD TELL YOU STILL WANTED HER TO GIVE IT TO YOU UP YOUR ASS.
I am a serial quitter you fuck wad you are a serial caver and a waste of fucking bandwidth.
June 15 I'd suggest you don't waste your time here.
For you coddlers out there it doesn't work for a dude like this go rub someone else's balls.
My 270's totally sucked ass too BUT you gotta Fucking expect it to happen. As a matter of fact, I had damn near 3 fucking months of suck. I chose to not dip because my word is just that. My word. Without that I have nothing.
Enough of the ball coddling bullshit around here. You said it's ok if you are labeled a serial caver, well that's exactly what you are. You shit on June and Aug 14 already. Is it time to shit on another month?
You had the tools and you chose to shit all over them. I'm not buying what you are selling.
So you posted roll and THEN caved in the afternoon?
I could've been able to muster a little bit of respect for you if you hadn't promised not to use that day. Fucking ridiculous. A serial caver is exactly what you are and it's what you'll remain since you've proven that your word isn't worth a damn.
this pisses me off
"I'm ready for the abuse. If it strengthens your quit - awesome."
You should be banned. If you can cave and just come back multiple times what is to stop the next pussy who decides to throw cancer in their lip. Fuck this I vote for a BAN and you are really fucking lucky my vote doesn't count!
I know there's nothing I could say that you won't give me shit about - and you're right Jad.
I'm NOT trying to justify. I know I fucked up.
Again. You fucked up, again.
Really?
You used the tools on this site?
The ones that say "Never again (for any reason)?"
You used that one too?
Liar.
Stop regaling in your accomplishments and see the sauce you are spewing is weak. You 100% failed my friend. Stop thinking your were "using the tools here".
Using the tools means that you use the tools when the chips are down....not when it's convenient to you.
You said that you would stand tall when the nic bitch called. I had you hunt you down in Oct/Nov. This is bullshit, the fact a promise means nothing to you? Your word? The brotherhood?
That's all we have here, very few people know anyone walking in the door, yet we all are willing to help you, give up our emails, cell phone numbers, with out question. And you throw all that away twice?
Keep your worthless words, you threw all that away for a god damn dead plant in a plastic can? All of this is worth less than a cost of a can? You threw this away for $5.00 dollar fix like a FN meth head.
Bullshit. This whole thing smells of fucking bullshit.
You had the site working with you. You used it on your terms only. You had brothers texting you. You ignored them because it didn't fit with where you were.
Cannot count yesterday as a success if you fail today. That is how it works with addiction. I don't care whether it is nicotine, booze or drugs, or whatever...if you fail today, any past successes you have had a washed out. They count for zero.
It is clear that you have not taken this seriously enough to stay clean. You need to firmly unplant your head from your ass and accept something:
You are an addict.
You will lie, cheat and steal. You will lie to your brothers and yourself. You will cheat yourself out of life. You will steal from others' quit by coming back again and again and damaging their with what you call "using the tools".
So, I suggest you ask yourself some very serious questions about "this" quit. Is it going to be "the Quit"? Or are you just going to limp-dick along and fuck with everyone's else's mojo?
Be clear on what you are doing. Don't be a fuck up. Right now, you are a fuck up.
EDIT: included candoit's response because it is spot on and I don't want to bump him.
Nate ... why the 4 week delay in getting back to people hounding you (Done4, basshaug)? Was it that important to basically say, "Fuck you ... stop bothering me"? You do realize that's what you were doing, right? You lack a key component of quitting ... INTEGRITY! Until you find that, there is no hope for you.
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One more thing Nate. The fact you went and humped a can for a month while figuring your shit out is proof enough that EnC-dad is spot on. You still love nicotine so much that you let her help guide your hand when figuring out what to say to all of your brothers, whom you cast aside for an opportunity to cop out like a pussy. You have nicotine so high on a pedestal and you bow down to it everyday. You are pretending to turn your head, but you can't help it. You romanticize about it and put it up on a pedestal so you can't help but look up to it. In the eyes of all of these bad ass quitters who have responded today, nicotine's pedestal is in ruins.
You should have grabbed ahold of any one of the numerous hands extended to you twice before. We could have pulled you up. You had the opportunity for success and you didn't grab it.
You weaken this place with your lies. I won't empower you to weaken it any further. Don't cheapen what we do here by continually showing off your shell of a real quit.
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I pm'ed you this a little while ago but I think you should think about it more... It is a big responsibility to quit dipping and honoring your word, and it is an even greater responsibility when you are quitting with others. Don't even think about coming back here without fully committing this time to go the whole way, and not drop off to take a dip 270 days down the road from here...... Then post another Day 1 when you get tired of dipping.....
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This is my group and these are my brothers....why should I have enough faith in what you have been saying? You have shown now that your word means less than your love of the nic, so why do I risk putting my trust, faith, and work into helping you off the bitch? I think you really need to take a step back and decide just how badly you want to quit because I'm having a very hard time believing this is a permanent quit for you.
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There's nothing more I can say. I'm quit today. I can use all the help I can get. I didn't cave "at" anyone. I stopped picking up the tools. Not going to justify anything though. I owned it. Not concerned if it meets anyone's qualifications. I'm here to quit. Nicotine ruins my life.
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I didn't cave "at" anyone.
Dude ... 'facepalm''
Of course you did. You fucked all of your brothers over in August (after earlier doing it in June '14). Once you start to realize that you caved "at" every last one of us here, maybe you'll start to put a little more weight into your promise. I get ... wait ... I "see" that you're OK with fucking yourself over, that's been shown. Not recognizing how you have fucked others over tells me you still don't get it.
Asking for "all the help you can get" starts with helping yourself get out of your own fucking way.
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I just read through all of this Bullshit. The only thing I picked up on that no one has mentioned yet is that dumb shit (Nate) called all of his previous excursions "quits" when we all know if you truly drink the kool aid they are only periods that you stopped using. Dumb shit you need to realize you didn't quit shit. You only stopped using for a bit. You have a looong road ahead to make this right with all the bad ass quitters that supported you. Oh wait maybe you can use that for your next cave excuse.
This guy doesn't get "it"
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I didn't cave "at" anyone.
Dude ... 'facepalm''
Of course you did. You fucked all of your brothers over in August (after earlier doing it in June '14). Once you start to realize that you caved "at" every last one of us here, maybe you'll start to put a little more weight into your promise. I get ... wait ... I "see" that you're OK with fucking yourself over, that's been shown. Not recognizing how you have fucked others over tells me you still don't get it.
Asking for "all the help you can get" starts with helping yourself get out of your own fucking way.
^^^ this dude gets it. You'd do well to heed his wisdom. He knows how to quit.
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I didn't cave "at" anyone.
Dude ... 'facepalm''
Of course you did. You fucked all of your brothers over in August (after earlier doing it in June '14). Once you start to realize that you caved "at" every last one of us here, maybe you'll start to put a little more weight into your promise. I get ... wait ... I "see" that you're OK with fucking yourself over, that's been shown. Not recognizing how you have fucked others over tells me you still don't get it.
Asking for "all the help you can get" starts with helping yourself get out of your own fucking way.
What smeds said is dead on.
You joined under the premise we count on you and vice versa. Fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on US.
Get your head on right. Be quit.
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The biggness of my fuck up is sinking in. I'm starting to see the truth of what smeds said. I'm not going back to that hell. Something interesting I read on the site a couple days ago was to treat any previous attempts as 'attempts' and this is my QUIT. for some reason that helps dramatically because it keeps my ego in check.
Part of the reason I'm posting this is I need personal accountability and want to help others with that too. I know I fucked over my two previous quit groups and I know I fucked over the men who I texted daily for many months. If anyone is willing to help, though, I could really use it. PM me your number, if you're up for a daily text of accountability.
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The biggness of my fuck up is sinking in. I'm starting to see the truth of what smeds said. I'm not going back to that hell. Something interesting I read on the site a couple days ago was to treat any previous attempts as 'attempts' and this is my QUIT. for some reason that helps dramatically because it keeps my ego in check.
Part of the reason I'm posting this is I need personal accountability and want to help others with that too. I know I fucked over my two previous quit groups and I know I fucked over the men who I texted daily for many months. If anyone is willing to help, though, I could really use it. PM me your number, if you're up for a daily text of accountability.
What good does a daily text with you do? Seriously? I've been reading up on you in June and your "daily texts" don't seem to amount to much. Or at least it's easily discarded by you. Why would us newer guys want to become invested in someone we weren't sure would stay quit with us? You seem to flow with the wind bro. And that makes you a bad investment. good luck Sarcasm selling that bill of goods.
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The biggness of my fuck up is sinking in. I'm starting to see the truth of what smeds said. I'm not going back to that hell. Something interesting I read on the site a couple days ago was to treat any previous attempts as 'attempts' and this is my QUIT. for some reason that helps dramatically because it keeps my ego in check.
Part of the reason I'm posting this is I need personal accountability and want to help others with that too. I know I fucked over my two previous quit groups and I know I fucked over the men who I texted daily for many months. If anyone is willing to help, though, I could really use it. PM me your number, if you're up for a daily text of accountability.
You don't need accountability.... we gave you that... you need to get your head on straight or get some professional help. You need to get your crap straight. We more than met you half way and you pooped on it.
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The biggness of my fuck up is sinking in. I'm starting to see the truth of what smeds said. I'm not going back to that hell. Something interesting I read on the site a couple days ago was to treat any previous attempts as 'attempts' and this is my QUIT. for some reason that helps dramatically because it keeps my ego in check.
Part of the reason I'm posting this is I need personal accountability and want to help others with that too. I know I fucked over my two previous quit groups and I know I fucked over the men who I texted daily for many months. If anyone is willing to help, though, I could really use it. PM me your number, if you're up for a daily text of accountability.
You don't need accountability.... we gave you that... you need to get your head on straight or get some professional help. You need to get your crap straight. We more than met you half way and you pooped on it.
Nate...you can do this.
People are afraid of failures, but only you can make sure nothing like that happens again. You may never get forgiveness from some people, but be the leader and quitter you need to be to sTay quit. It seems crazy, but you need to know that failure is not an option.
Put one foot in front of the other. Keep moving forward. Quit will take care of itself one step at a time if you do that. Ultimately, you know that everybody here is and will be looking to keep you quit. We expect perfection because perfection is so easily attained. I had to learn that once too, and one of the greatest moments I had in my quit was realizing this moment is all I have. Don't ask for numbers. Give them. Be a friend. Make people want to be there for you. You can do this man, but you have to want it more than anything right now.
I got your back. Everybody deserves to be quit.
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The biggness of my fuck up is sinking in. I'm starting to see the truth of what smeds said. I'm not going back to that hell. Something interesting I read on the site a couple days ago was to treat any previous attempts as 'attempts' and this is my QUIT. for some reason that helps dramatically because it keeps my ego in check.
Part of the reason I'm posting this is I need personal accountability and want to help others with that too. I know I fucked over my two previous quit groups and I know I fucked over the men who I texted daily for many months. If anyone is willing to help, though, I could really use it. PM me your number, if you're up for a daily text of accountability.
You don't need accountability.... we gave you that... you need to get your head on straight or get some professional help. You need to get your crap straight. We more than met you half way and you pooped on it.
Nate...you can do this.
People are afraid of failures, but only you can make sure nothing like that happens again. You may never get forgiveness from some people, but be the leader and quitter you need to be to sTay quit. It seems crazy, but you need to know that failure is not an option.
Put one foot in front of the other. Keep moving forward. Quit will take care of itself one step at a time if you do that. Ultimately, you know that everybody here is and will be looking to keep you quit. We expect perfection because perfection is so easily attained. I had to learn that once too, and one of the greatest moments I had in my quit was realizing this moment is all I have. Don't ask for numbers. Give them. Be a friend. Make people want to be there for you. You can do this man, but you have to want it more than anything right now.
I got your back. Everybody deserves to be quit.
Nate I'm glad you back. You seem like you want to quit and you seem humble enough to listen to everyone's advice and criticisms. I'm not going to bash you because it doesn't work with you. Others have bashed you yet you subsequently caved. I would like to try a different approach.
Like Wastepanel said, "We expect perfection." We expect perfection because perfection is required. You know you can't stop. You've stopped for approximately 340 days in the past year but you have also still dipped in the last year. That's addiction my friend. It sleeps inside us all until WE chose to let it out. I don't know how you are going to do it but you need to burn your boats and make quitting as important to you as breathing oxygen.
Don't let June 2015 down. These guys are struggling right now and the last thing they need is to see a guy who has stopped for 340 days in the last year half ass his quit. Do whatever they want you to do as a sign of your good faith. I'm rooting for you.
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No post in 4 days? Glad you're back for good this time. Fuck you.
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This is what, your 3rd or 4th failure? Go fuck yourself Nate. If your still clean, which I doubt, then get back on roll.
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Sometimes failure is unavoidable. This guy embraces everything wrong about nicotine, and nothing right about quitting. It's simple ... don't put the shit in your lip, regardless of what life throws at you. Until a realization is met that causes that specific light bulb to go off, there is not much chance.
New guys ... you can use this (repeated) failure to inspire you. This is what NOT to do. Own your fucking quit, or the weed will own you.
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Bump as a cautionary tale on how not to do it.
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I am an addict and can absolutely not stop dipping.
After a number of failed attempts to quit -- topic/1011340/1/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1011340/1/)
I must stop. Today is day 5. I quit on Thursday and did not think I needed to come back to this site until today.
I wasn't going to come back to Kill the Can because of the shame I had from my previous failed attempts. Today, though, was a tough day and I almost caved. My wife and I found out today that we are expecting our first child. My excitement turned to a bit of anxiety, which turned to the thought that crowded out all else. Nicotine would be the perfect thing for this day.
I rationalized to myself that I had an old vaporizer with nicotine juice in the basement that I could use that wouldn't really be 'caving'. Well, I tried it and it was broken. The thing didn't work. At that point I came to my senses. That wake up call got me back here and scared the shit out of me.
My two longest quits on this site were 200+ days and 70 something days. I let my quit brothers down in my previous groups. I was selfish and I guess held on to a small part of me that still thought dipping was an escape. Well, in February 2015, I went through an emotional breakdown of sorts (unrelated to dipping), and after 200+ days, used it as an excuse to buy a tin.
I'm done. I have quit dozens of times and legitimately meant it each time. What will be different this time? I'm going to have to think about that one. I think my quit last year was pretty solid, I used the tools, I was a conductor for the HOF group that followed our group, but as time went on, I slowly allowed the thought to creep in that tobacco wasn't that bad of an addiction. It started very slowly at first, and grew, until the time when my guard was down, I used the first excuse I had as an excuse to dip.
I'm going to post roll today, and can answer any questions I need to. This website (and the men and women on it), is the only thing I have ever found to free me from the bondage of nicotine.
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Oh do you really? You need to merge accounts. Your word is beyond worthless.
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You need to get your shit together. Check your PMs.
You shit on my group and how many others now?
If you really want to quit you'll man up and do it. You'll have to forgive me for not expecting you to be around long. Prove me wrong.
Your word means nothing; as has been proven repeatedly.
Do something different or get out. The last thing we need is someone else to drag down new guys who are putting in the work because you "want to quit for good this time." How many times have you said that and then shit all over your word?
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I am an addict and can absolutely not stop dipping.
After a number of failed attempts to quit -- topic/1011340/1/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1011340/1/)
I must stop. Today is day 5. I quit on Thursday and did not think I needed to come back to this site until today.
I wasn't going to come back to Kill the Can because of the shame I had from my previous failed attempts. Today, though, was a tough day and I almost caved. My wife and I found out today that we are expecting our first child. My excitement turned to a bit of anxiety, which turned to the thought that crowded out all else. Nicotine would be the perfect thing for this day.
I rationalized to myself that I had an old vaporizer with nicotine juice in the basement that I could use that wouldn't really be 'caving'. Well, I tried it and it was broken. The thing didn't work. At that point I came to my senses. That wake up call got me back here and scared the shit out of me.
My two longest quits on this site were 200+ days and 70 something days. I let my quit brothers down in my previous groups. I was selfish and I guess held on to a small part of me that still thought dipping was an escape. Well, in February 2015, I went through an emotional breakdown of sorts (unrelated to dipping), and after 200+ days, used it as an excuse to buy a tin.
I'm done. I have quit dozens of times and legitimately meant it each time. What will be different this time? I'm going to have to think about that one. I think my quit last year was pretty solid, I used the tools, I was a conductor for the HOF group that followed our group, but as time went on, I slowly allowed the thought to creep in that tobacco wasn't that bad of an addiction. It started very slowly at first, and grew, until the time when my guard was down, I used the first excuse I had as an excuse to dip.
I'm going to post roll today, and can answer any questions I need to. This website (and the men and women on it), is the only thing I have ever found to free me from the bondage of nicotine.
There are so many gems in here I'd exhaust myself pointing them all out. First, you have never quit. You HAVE selfishly wasted the time of many on this site during previous stoppages. You were a HOF Conductor last year? No, last year you came to the June Goons with a sob story of several prior caves. Against the advice of vets, we circled our wagons around you. We swapped digits and we texted. Then you didn't return texts. You were not man enough to tell us WTF happened. This place is for.people who value their word, that's why we call it a promise. It's not a toilet or a shitter or a potty or any of the other things you've used it as.
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I am an addict and can absolutely not stop dipping.
After a number of failed attempts to quit -- topic/1011340/1/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1011340/1/)
I must stop. Today is day 5. I quit on Thursday and did not think I needed to come back to this site until today.
I wasn't going to come back to Kill the Can because of the shame I had from my previous failed attempts. Today, though, was a tough day and I almost caved. My wife and I found out today that we are expecting our first child. My excitement turned to a bit of anxiety, which turned to the thought that crowded out all else. Nicotine would be the perfect thing for this day.
I rationalized to myself that I had an old vaporizer with nicotine juice in the basement that I could use that wouldn't really be 'caving'. Well, I tried it and it was broken. The thing didn't work. At that point I came to my senses. That wake up call got me back here and scared the shit out of me.
My two longest quits on this site were 200+ days and 70 something days. I let my quit brothers down in my previous groups. I was selfish and I guess held on to a small part of me that still thought dipping was an escape. Well, in February 2015, I went through an emotional breakdown of sorts (unrelated to dipping), and after 200+ days, used it as an excuse to buy a tin.
I'm done. I have quit dozens of times and legitimately meant it each time. What will be different this time? I'm going to have to think about that one. I think my quit last year was pretty solid, I used the tools, I was a conductor for the HOF group that followed our group, but as time went on, I slowly allowed the thought to creep in that tobacco wasn't that bad of an addiction. It started very slowly at first, and grew, until the time when my guard was down, I used the first excuse I had as an excuse to dip.
I'm going to post roll today, and can answer any questions I need to. This website (and the men and women on it), is the only thing I have ever found to free me from the bondage of nicotine.
Good. God.
You're the second multi-caver fool to show up today thinking to just post up a page full of bullshit "answers" that you think we all want to hear.
Wrong.
You don't get it. You won't get it.
We can NOT abide the kind of weak-ass "try and try again" mentality that you obvioulsy think is acceptable. It sends the wrong message and it taints everything this site stands for. As far as I'm concerned... you should be gone. This is your 3rd go? Yeah... piss off. I wish for you to quit but not here.
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I am an addict and can absolutely not stop dipping.
After a number of failed attempts to quit -- topic/1011340/1/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1011340/1/)
I must stop. Today is day 5. I quit on Thursday and did not think I needed to come back to this site until today.
I wasn't going to come back to Kill the Can because of the shame I had from my previous failed attempts. Today, though, was a tough day and I almost caved. My wife and I found out today that we are expecting our first child. My excitement turned to a bit of anxiety, which turned to the thought that crowded out all else. Nicotine would be the perfect thing for this day.
I rationalized to myself that I had an old vaporizer with nicotine juice in the basement that I could use that wouldn't really be 'caving'. Well, I tried it and it was broken. The thing didn't work. At that point I came to my senses. That wake up call got me back here and scared the shit out of me.
My two longest quits on this site were 200+ days and 70 something days. I let my quit brothers down in my previous groups. I was selfish and I guess held on to a small part of me that still thought dipping was an escape. Well, in February 2015, I went through an emotional breakdown of sorts (unrelated to dipping), and after 200+ days, used it as an excuse to buy a tin.
I'm done. I have quit dozens of times and legitimately meant it each time. What will be different this time? I'm going to have to think about that one. I think my quit last year was pretty solid, I used the tools, I was a conductor for the HOF group that followed our group, but as time went on, I slowly allowed the thought to creep in that tobacco wasn't that bad of an addiction. It started very slowly at first, and grew, until the time when my guard was down, I used the first excuse I had as an excuse to dip.
I'm going to post roll today, and can answer any questions I need to. This website (and the men and women on it), is the only thing I have ever found to free me from the bondage of nicotine.
Good. God.
You're the second multi-caver fool to show up today thinking to just post up a page full of bullshit "answers" that you think we all want to hear.
Wrong.
You don't get it. You won't get it.
We can NOT abide the kind of weak-ass "try and try again" mentality that you obvioulsy think is acceptable. It sends the wrong message and it taints everything this site stands for. As far as I'm concerned... you should be gone. This is your 3rd go? Yeah... piss off. I wish for you to quit but not here.
You burned the wrong boats. Honor, respect, brotherhood, accountability are all meaningless words to you. You refuse to give them meaning. You can type them until your fingers fall off, but your actions tell us the truth.
'Finger' 'Finger'
'Finger'
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Screw dis guy
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I don't even know what to say other than I won't give you any of my time. You already used up your allotment. Fly away special butterfly. 'Finger'
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To be honest, the reason I have been checking out the past couple days after posting roll is I feel guilty as shit about letting guys down. This is 100% honest. I'm doing this for the July 2016 guys as a cautionary tale. My first response to the 3 questions was bullshit.
What happened:
I have had two serious attempts to quit on this site (separated by one weekend), and two not so serious attempts. In 2014, I quit on March 5th, (I think), and stayed off nicotine for 70 something days. I was somewhat involved on the site, had a few phone numbers and didn't really use them. I posted roll every day, but didn't do much more than that. And then, I caved (no surprise after my lackluster attempt). After a weekend of dipping, I realized how severely I had fucked up and got back to KTC the next day. I did everything I could to stay quit. I got phone numbers, texted (and called) with guys EVERY SINGLE DAY. I was all in. I was conductor for the HOF train. I supported guys and they supported me. I got involved with new groups and made myself and others accountable. As I was doing those things, the thought of nic was the furthest thing from my mind. For the first time ever, during the one or two times where I was having a real bad craving (past 100 days), I actually called guys and talked through it. It worked. Every time. I did everything differently. The reason why in my initial post I said that there was nothing new I could say was because I had actually done the deal (for a while). I did all the things that I hadn't done in the past, and it worked. Well......then why did I cave? See below.
Why did it happen:
Every now and then, though, I would allow the insidious thought to creep back in that dip might not have been that bad. They weren't frequent, and they didn't last for long, but they still came up. I would quickly turn my thoughts back to the shit it caused and the negatives, but I would occasionally romanticize it. I hit some shit in my personal life and the thought crossed my mind that I have a solution to this problem! A solution that would make all the shit feel better - stick some disgusting brown cancer causing plant in my gums. Do I need to tell you whether or not that solution worked?
I caved after the better part of a year. On the day that I caved, I texted guys in the AM that I would quit with them for that day. That was very shitty. I completely understand why guys have lost all faith in me and are pissed off at my lack of integrity.
For the last 14 months, I have dipped nonstop. Here's the deal with caving - as an addict, there is no such thing as one dip and back to KTC. If I dip, it is non-stop, all the time. Be vigilant with your mind, because your thoughts of dip will use any avenue to fuck you up if you have any kind of crack in your wall.
What am I going to do differently?
I am going to go back to those things I mentioned above - accountability, first and foremost. I have a long road to go to earn back trust. I am getting involved as I did before. All in. There is no middle ground for me. The most important thing, though, is that I must crush any romantic notions of dip. I am done with it forever. No contingencies. No 'break in case of emergency' bullshit I held on to for a long time. It is gone and I am way better for it. It is shit, I turn into a con-artist (to sneak out to get in a dip), it does nothing for me (just takes away the withdrawl), and it makes me feel like shit about myself.
Having said all of that - if you ever cave - COME BACK RIGHT AWAY. That day that you're hoping for where you'll just wake up and not want to dip anymore will not come. I only made it back here through a lot of pain and a cancer scare. This is not an endorsement of caving, ever. It's just a reality of this addiction.
I am quit for me. I can't quit for anyone else. That bums me out Bronc - but I totally get it. I'm quitting today regardless.
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To be honest, the reason I have been checking out the past couple days after posting roll is I feel guilty as shit about letting guys down. This is 100% honest. I'm doing this for the July 2016 guys as a cautionary tale. My first response to the 3 questions was bullshit.
What happened:
I have had two serious attempts to quit on this site (separated by one weekend), and two not so serious attempts. In 2014, I quit on March 5th, (I think), and stayed off nicotine for 70 something days. I was somewhat involved on the site, had a few phone numbers and didn't really use them. I posted roll every day, but didn't do much more than that. And then, I caved (no surprise after my lackluster attempt). After a weekend of dipping, I realized how severely I had fucked up and got back to KTC the next day. I did everything I could to stay quit. I got phone numbers, texted (and called) with guys EVERY SINGLE DAY. I was all in. I was conductor for the HOF train. I supported guys and they supported me. I got involved with new groups and made myself and others accountable. As I was doing those things, the thought of nic was the furthest thing from my mind. For the first time ever, during the one or two times where I was having a real bad craving (past 100 days), I actually called guys and talked through it. It worked. Every time. I did everything differently. The reason why in my initial post I said that there was nothing new I could say was because I had actually done the deal (for a while). I did all the things that I hadn't done in the past, and it worked. Well......then why did I cave? See below.
Why did it happen:
Every now and then, though, I would allow the insidious thought to creep back in that dip might not have been that bad. They weren't frequent, and they didn't last for long, but they still came up. I would quickly turn my thoughts back to the shit it caused and the negatives, but I would occasionally romanticize it. I hit some shit in my personal life and the thought crossed my mind that I have a solution to this problem! A solution that would make all the shit feel better - stick some disgusting brown cancer causing plant in my gums. Do I need to tell you whether or not that solution worked?
I caved after the better part of a year. On the day that I caved, I texted guys in the AM that I would quit with them for that day. That was very shitty. I completely understand why guys have lost all faith in me and are pissed off at my lack of integrity.
For the last 14 months, I have dipped nonstop. Here's the deal with caving - as an addict, there is no such thing as one dip and back to KTC. If I dip, it is non-stop, all the time. Be vigilant with your mind, because your thoughts of dip will use any avenue to fuck you up if you have any kind of crack in your wall.
What am I going to do differently?
I am going to go back to those things I mentioned above - accountability, first and foremost. I have a long road to go to earn back trust. I am getting involved as I did before. All in. There is no middle ground for me. The most important thing, though, is that I must crush any romantic notions of dip. I am done with it forever. No contingencies. No 'break in case of emergency' bullshit I held on to for a long time. It is gone and I am way better for it. It is shit, I turn into a con-artist (to sneak out to get in a dip), it does nothing for me (just takes away the withdrawl), and it makes me feel like shit about myself.
Having said all of that - if you ever cave - COME BACK RIGHT AWAY. That day that you're hoping for where you'll just wake up and not want to dip anymore will not come. I only made it back here through a lot of pain and a cancer scare. This is not an endorsement of caving, ever. It's just a reality of this addiction.
I am quit for me. I can't quit for anyone else. That bums me out Bronc - but I totally get it. I'm quitting today regardless.
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Go away, dude.
I dipped for 25 years.
2 cans a day.
Lied to everyone.
Wasted my families money.
Never...ever... tried to quit.
I was doomed.
My wife texted me this site address one day.
It scared the hell out of me that my life was a joke and more see-through than I thought.
I. Quit.
I owned it.
1,079 days, almost 12,000 posts, and 100% roll.
You. Piss. Me. Off.
Go somewhere else... you don't get to "try" again.
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I'm done. I have quit dozens of times and legitimately meant it each time. What will be different this time? I'm going to have to think about that one.
I read through this entire calamity and this statement stands like a beacon. Nate, you need to tattoo this on your back.
Twenty years ago, I made the statement that, once you do something, you only quit when you die. You can stop for a period, but for as long as you're alive, you cannot quit.
Then, 4 weeks ago, I found this place. Quit for a day, they said. I can't quit, I'm not dead, but I can stop for a day.
So, as you are thinking about what will be different, think about the fact that you are not "done". You can be done today. Unless you are willing to kill yourself, that's about as far as you can take it.
You are not DONE Nate, until you are planted in the cold brown earth, you will NEVER be DONE! Every focking day of the rest of your life, you are an addict. There is no DONE in ADDICTION!!!
I don't know why these idjits keep coming back to pick you up.
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I'm done. I have quit dozens of times and legitimately meant it each time. What will be different this time? I'm going to have to think about that one.
I read through this entire calamity and this statement stands like a beacon. Nate, you need to tattoo this on your back.br /br /Twenty years ago, I made the statement that, once you do something, you only quit when you die. You can stop for a period, but for as long as you're alive, you cannot quit.br /br /Then, 4 weeks ago, I found this place. Quit for a day, they said. I can't quit, I'm not dead, but I can stop for a day.br /br /So, as you are thinking about what will be different, think about the fact that you are not "done". You can be done today. Unless you are willing to kill yourself, that's about as far as you can take it.br /br /You are not DONE Nate, until you are planted in the cold brown earth, you will NEVER be DONE! Every focking day of the rest of your life, you are an addict. There is no DONE in ADDICTION!!!br /br /I don't know why these idjits keep coming back to pick you up.
I'm done. I have quit dozens of times and legitimately meant it each time. What will be different this time? I'm going to have to think about that one.
I read through this entire calamity and this statement stands like a beacon. Nate, you need to tattoo this on your back.br /br /Twenty years ago, I made the statement that, once you do something, you only quit when you die. You can stop for a period, but for as long as you're alive, you cannot quit.br /br /Then, 4 weeks ago, I found this place. Quit for a day, they said. I can't quit, I'm not dead, but I can stop for a day.br /br /So, as you are thinking about what will be different, think about the fact that you are not "done". You can be done today. Unless you are willing to kill yourself, that's about as far as you can take it.br /br /You are not DONE Nate, until you are planted in the cold brown earth, you will NEVER be DONE! Every focking day of the rest of your life, you are an addict. There is no DONE in ADDICTION!!!br /br /I don't know why these idjits keep coming back to pick you up.
I'm done. I have quit dozens of times and legitimately meant it each time. What will be different this time? I'm going to have to think about that one.
I read through this entire calamity and this statement stands like a beacon. Nate, you need to tattoo this on your back.
Twenty years ago, I made the statement that, once you do something, you only quit when you die. You can stop for a period, but for as long as you're alive, you cannot quit.
Then, 4 weeks ago, I found this place. Quit for a day, they said. I can't quit, I'm not dead, but I can stop for a day.
So, as you are thinking about what will be different, think about the fact that you are not "done". You can be done today. Unless you are willing to kill yourself, that's about as far as you can take it.
You are not DONE Nate, until you are planted in the cold brown earth, you will NEVER be DONE! Every focking day of the rest of your life, you are an addict. There is no DONE in ADDICTION!!!
I don't know why these idjits keep coming back to pick you up.
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Why isn't there a "Banned" designation under this idiots name?
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Hi guys. Thanks for the support! Day 8.
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I'm done. I have quit dozens of times and legitimately meant it each time. What will be different this time? I'm going to have to think about that one.
I really think you need to focus on what you mean by "I'm done." There is no "done" in addiction. Once you realize that, you might stand a chance of remaining "quit".
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Why isn't there a "Banned" designation under this idiots name?
^ this. Please tell me the admins are not allowing this jackass to come back.
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I'm done. I have quit dozens of times and legitimately meant it each time. What will be different this time? I'm going to have to think about that one.
I really think you need to focus on what you mean by "I'm done." There is no "done" in addiction. Once you realize that, you might stand a chance of remaining "quit".
This is a really good point. Thank you.
Lighty and others - I'm just being honest and quitting for today. I've never said anything derogatory to anyone on this site. I have supported a lot of guys and a lot have supported me. There are a lot of unhelpful comments being said. Telling someone 'Fuck You' does nothing to assist them. Making the point that Wildirish said is helpful.
EC - If we were standing face to face, I don't know that you would have the same response. It's easy to post hate from your computer screen. I fucked up. I know I did. I fucked up many times. But I never lied about it, I never came on here and tried to hide anything. I post roll every day, I text guys, and try to share things that have been helpful for me. I also try to share things that I've done which were NOT the right things to do.
To be honest - no matter how much shit I get - I am not leaving. This has been the only place that has ever gotten me to stop nicotine for any length of time.
I have integrity. I'm quitting today and will post roll when I wake up tomorrow.
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I have integrity.
Um...
Just because you "never lied about it" doesn't mean you get to claim Integrity as a personal quality.
Actions count more, and... your actions prove otherwise.
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You just don't get it. It's not about saying anything derogatory. It's the fact that it weakens the quit of everyone else having you here. That's how "brotherhood" and "accountability" work if we're being honest. The weak links need to be weeded out. Do I want you to quit dip - sure. I'm not a spiteful person and I really don't mix it up that much here. But there has to be a voice of common sense that says this method is not for you. Could you go another couple hundred days of a stoppage? Sure - but you are not quit and this site obviously can't help you get there.
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I'm done. I have quit dozens of times and legitimately meant it each time. What will be different this time? I'm going to have to think about that one.
I really think you need to focus on what you mean by "I'm done." There is no "done" in addiction. Once you realize that, you might stand a chance of remaining "quit".
This is a really good point. Thank you.
Lighty and others - I'm just being honest and quitting for today. I've never said anything derogatory to anyone on this site. I have supported a lot of guys and a lot have supported me. There are a lot of unhelpful comments being said. Telling someone 'Fuck You' does nothing to assist them. Making the point that Wildirish said is helpful.
EC - If we were standing face to face, I don't know that you would have the same response. It's easy to post hate from your computer screen. I fucked up. I know I did. I fucked up many times. But I never lied about it, I never came on here and tried to hide anything. I post roll every day, I text guys, and try to share things that have been helpful for me. I also try to share things that I've done which were NOT the right things to do.
To be honest - no matter how much shit I get - I am not leaving. This has been the only place that has ever gotten me to stop nicotine for any length of time.
I have integrity. I'm quitting today and will post roll when I wake up tomorrow.
Nate you huge vagina. I will call you to discuss this and my response will be exactly the same. You hid like a bitch the last time you quit. Want me to make the texts and pms that I and others from our group sent you public. You didn't man up you fucking disappeared.
You have zero integrity jackass.
Trust is hard won, easily lost and never fully regained.
Trust and Integrity are like your virginity...once they are gone they are gone!
Do everyone here a favor and hit the bricks. We don't have time for a man who doesn't stick to his word.
You have my number...if I don't get around to calling you first and you'd like to discuss my posts here go for it.
You are the worst....seriously....not even joking.
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Hey Admins, mods this fucker straight lied on roll....serial caver......Ban his ass. 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head'
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Hi guys. Thanks for the support! Day 8.
You sarcastic piece of garbage.......SUPPORT, really, you are going to get sarcastic on here about SUPPORT! You have had more support from quitters on here then most get! And then you get sarcastic when called out, you continue to shit on this place with your weak ass constitution! I pray to God that you are not a soldier or have anyone rely on you, because if you are, I fear for your fellow soldiers who you will sell out at the first sign of saving your own ass..........go away dude quit wasting everyone's time.......
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Hey Admins, mods this fucker straight lied on roll....serial caver......Ban his ass. 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head'
I haven't checked this and, frankly, I don't wanna expend the energy better spent elsewhere...
Did he really lie on roll?
Admins... you know this is unforgivable.
He needs to be gone.
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Hi guys. Thanks for the support! Day 8.
You sarcastic piece of garbage.......SUPPORT, really, you are going to get sarcastic on here about SUPPORT! You have had more support from quitters on here then most get! And then you get sarcastic when called out, you continue to shit on this place with your weak ass constitution! I pray to God that you are not a soldier or have anyone rely on you, because if you are, I fear for your fellow soldiers who you will sell out at the first sign of saving your own ass..........go away dude quit wasting everyone's time.......
It's worse bro he's a teacher and athletic coach.
Training the next generation of Pussy's. Glad my kids aren't in your class.
Just stopping in here to give you the daily 'Finger' McPusserson!
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Hi guys. Thanks for the support! Day 8.
You sarcastic piece of garbage.......SUPPORT, really, you are going to get sarcastic on here about SUPPORT! You have had more support from quitters on here then most get! And then you get sarcastic when called out, you continue to shit on this place with your weak ass constitution! I pray to God that you are not a soldier or have anyone rely on you, because if you are, I fear for your fellow soldiers who you will sell out at the first sign of saving your own ass..........go away dude quit wasting everyone's time.......
It's worse bro he's a teacher and athletic coach.
Training the next generation of Pussy's. Glad my kids aren't in your class.
Just stopping in here to give you the daily 'Finger' McPusserson!
I'm done posting on the intro page for now. I will not be checking it.
I will be helping others not make the mistakes I've made. If you are without fault, awesome. I just had a former student who I taught for two years die two nights ago in a car crash. He was 22 fucking years old. I will not dip. I have a baby on the way and my wife has been getting upset even when I'm trying to do everything for her, I will not dip. You guys get me riled up. I will not dip.
See ya.
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Hi guys. Thanks for the support! Day 8.
You sarcastic piece of garbage.......SUPPORT, really, you are going to get sarcastic on here about SUPPORT! You have had more support from quitters on here then most get! And then you get sarcastic when called out, you continue to shit on this place with your weak ass constitution! I pray to God that you are not a soldier or have anyone rely on you, because if you are, I fear for your fellow soldiers who you will sell out at the first sign of saving your own ass..........go away dude quit wasting everyone's time.......
It's worse bro he's a teacher and athletic coach.
Training the next generation of Pussy's. Glad my kids aren't in your class.
Just stopping in here to give you the daily 'Finger' McPusserson!
I'm done posting on the intro page for now. I will not be checking it.
I will be helping others not make the mistakes I've made. If you are without fault, awesome. I just had a former student who I taught for two years die two nights ago in a car crash. He was 22 fucking years old. I will not dip. I have a baby on the way and my wife has been getting upset even when I'm trying to do everything for her, I will not dip. You guys get me riled up. I will not dip.
See ya.
Life
Dude there are ups and downs. Births and deaths. Sickness and joy. Happy and sad.
When we leave life, some will leave a pot of gold and some will leave a mountain of bills. At the funeral of both, NO ONE GIVES A SHIT! People talk about "he was a good man." "He was a great friend". "He was a leader". Or... No one shows up.
The common theme... Integrity. Trust. It is a consistent truth.
Now, you might not read this because you are avoiding the intros, but maybe someone else will. If you are not a man of integrity, this isn't the place to quit for you. See, liars or people who shake hands on a deal and then don't honor their word, aka snakes, are not cut from the same cloth as the men of integrity that quit here. We quit for today and WE KEEP OUR WORD. That means if our wife yells at us, if we stub our big toe, or if a real tragedy strikes... Life happens. Nicotine does not.
Too bad you won't see this. It really sums up why you cant win.
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Hi guys. Thanks for the support! Day 8.
You sarcastic piece of garbage.......SUPPORT, really, you are going to get sarcastic on here about SUPPORT! You have had more support from quitters on here then most get! And then you get sarcastic when called out, you continue to shit on this place with your weak ass constitution! I pray to God that you are not a soldier or have anyone rely on you, because if you are, I fear for your fellow soldiers who you will sell out at the first sign of saving your own ass..........go away dude quit wasting everyone's time.......
It's worse bro he's a teacher and athletic coach.
Training the next generation of Pussy's. Glad my kids aren't in your class.
Just stopping in here to give you the daily 'Finger' McPusserson!
I'm done posting on the intro page for now. I will not be checking it.
I will be helping others not make the mistakes I've made. If you are without fault, awesome. I just had a former student who I taught for two years die two nights ago in a car crash. He was 22 fucking years old. I will not dip. I have a baby on the way and my wife has been getting upset even when I'm trying to do everything for her, I will not dip. You guys get me riled up. I will not dip.
See ya.
Life
Dude there are ups and downs. Births and deaths. Sickness and joy. Happy and sad.
When we leave life, some will leave a pot of gold and some will leave a mountain of bills. At the funeral of both, NO ONE GIVES A SHIT! People talk about "he was a good man." "He was a great friend". "He was a leader". Or... No one shows up.
The common theme... Integrity. Trust. It is a consistent truth.
Now, you might not read this because you are avoiding the intros, but maybe someone else will. If you are not a man of integrity, this isn't the place to quit for you. See, liars or people who shake hands on a deal and then don't honor their word, aka snakes, are not cut from the same cloth as the men of integrity that quit here. We quit for today and WE KEEP OUR WORD. That means if our wife yells at us, if we stub our big toe, or if a real tragedy strikes... Life happens. Nicotine does not.
Too bad you won't see this. It really sums up why you cant win.
its sad to see repeated cavers, weak and not answering the three questions with any degree of introspection, not be banned. There was a time when you would be referred to http://www.quitsmokeless.org/ (http://www.quitsmokeless.org/) and sent on your way. This site used to be for those who wanted real accountability. There can be no accountability if get out of jail free cards are handed out with no end. If you were in my quit group, I would drive you out with shame and refer you to "Lite" at http://www.quitsmokeless.org/ (http://www.quitsmokeless.org/)
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This is from June 2014 'Finger'
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Hey newbies this is an intro of not how to quit! This dude is what is called a pussy serial caver! No backbone and definitely not trustworthy. I hope he makes it but I wouldn't put any money on him.
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I hate it that I spent a Saturday morning reading this whole intro. I really can't believe anyone could be so weak and honorless to shit on this site and 3 groups like you have. You are the antithesis of what this place is about. You represent none of our 3 tenets.
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Must be sleeping in today, huh?
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Must be sleeping in today, huh?
Hmmmm I wonder how many people he helped track down in July 16......before he had to be tracked down? A zebra cant change its stripes.
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Hi guys. Thanks for the support! Day 8.
You sarcastic piece of garbage.......SUPPORT, really, you are going to get sarcastic on here about SUPPORT! You have had more support from quitters on here then most get! And then you get sarcastic when called out, you continue to shit on this place with your weak ass constitution! I pray to God that you are not a soldier or have anyone rely on you, because if you are, I fear for your fellow soldiers who you will sell out at the first sign of saving your own ass..........go away dude quit wasting everyone's time.......
It's worse bro he's a teacher and athletic coach.
Training the next generation of Pussy's. Glad my kids aren't in your class.
Just stopping in here to give you the daily 'Finger' McPusserson!
OMG - a coach????????? How can you be a coach and have no constitution/no backbone/no stick-to-it/no balls/no gumption? A freakin serial caver who is a teacher and coach, I've heard it all now. Welcome to the Participation Trophy Generation!
I'll QLF today and say a prayer for the OP as he needs it.......
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Back to checking this again, yet, Nate?
How long's it gonna last this time?
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Apparently 21 days.
Congrats on 3 weeks! Did you take the pussy's way out and cave, AGAIN?
Haven't been here in 2 days and I know your history, so I'm going with a big fat "yes".
Unbelievable how someone can keep crawling back here just to continuously fuck up something as simple as keeping your word.
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Apparently 21 days.
Congrats on 3 weeks! Did you take the pussy's way out and cave, AGAIN?
Haven't been here in 2 days and I know your history, so I'm going with a big fat "yes".
Unbelievable how someone can keep crawling back here just to continuously fuck up something as simple as keeping your word.
Hmmm something tells me that he knows better than the rest of us.
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Apparently 21 days.
Congrats on 3 weeks! Did you take the pussy's way out and cave, AGAIN?
Haven't been here in 2 days and I know your history, so I'm going with a big fat "yes".
Unbelievable how someone can keep crawling back here just to continuously fuck up something as simple as keeping your word.
Hmmm something tells me that he knows better than the rest of us.
Probably!
He's certainly got more experience than the rest of us. This is what? 5 caves?
Guy should be able to recite the welcome center at this fucking point.
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Apparently 21 days.
Congrats on 3 weeks! Did you take the pussy's way out and cave, AGAIN?
Haven't been here in 2 days and I know your history, so I'm going with a big fat "yes".
Unbelievable how someone can keep crawling back here just to continuously fuck up something as simple as keeping your word.
Hmmm something tells me that he knows better than the rest of us.
Probably!
He's certainly got more experience than the rest of us. This is what? 5 caves?
Guy should be able to recite the welcome center at this fucking point.
That would mean he would of had to read it.
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Absent for 3 days.
Idiot.
I smell another failure.
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Absent for 3 days.
Idiot.
I smell another failure.
Let this be a lesson in the collective wisdom.
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Now. Guys. He is probably one of those special guys that knows he can do it absolutely on his own and doesn't need to follow any body else no matter if he or they have a way that is tried and true. This guy is special! Just like all the others that have decided that they can do it on their own. He is different....just like everyone else. He is special....and needs to be coddled. He probably takes a lot from his wife....it is called pegging. So. Guys, for the sake of it all. Be nice and gentle with this creature. Lord know he is a bat without wings in a Metallica concert (You know, a rat. Cant fly or use his sonar/radar thingy because of the noise and alternating light color strobes).
If this was too brutal, let me know. I will remove it.
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Now. Guys. He is probably one of those special guys that knows he can do it absolutely on his own and doesn't need to follow any body else no matter if he or they have a way that is tried and true. This guy is special! Just like all the others that have decided that they can do it on their own. He is different....just like everyone else. He is special....and needs to be coddled. He probably takes a lot from his wife....it is called pegging. So. Guys, for the sake of it all. Be nice and gentle with this creature. Lord know he is a bat without wings in a Metallica concert (You know, a rat. Cant fly or use his sonar/radar thingy because of the noise and alternating light color strobes).
If this was too brutal, let me know. I will remove it.
Nah, this guy is the pinnical of the snowflakes. He comes back because he knows that this is the only thing that works but has to only do the things he wants to do. He never and will never buy into what we do here.
I hope that people continue to read and understand that we continually have given a hand up and always shat on the rug.
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Now. Guys. He is probably one of those special guys that knows he can do it absolutely on his own and doesn't need to follow any body else no matter if he or they have a way that is tried and true. This guy is special! Just like all the others that have decided that they can do it on their own. He is different....just like everyone else. He is special....and needs to be coddled. He probably takes a lot from his wife....it is called pegging. So. Guys, for the sake of it all. Be nice and gentle with this creature. Lord know he is a bat without wings in a Metallica concert (You know, a rat. Cant fly or use his sonar/radar thingy because of the noise and alternating light color strobes).
If this was too brutal, let me know. I will remove it.
Mean? Hardly.
You are the man.
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WHERE ARE THE ADMINS??????
July 2016 has some awesome new quitters and more retreads than a whole batch of truck stops. KTC is like a marriage. You don't fuck around on your wife and ask for forgiveness and it is granted time... After time... After time... After time.
This weak ass shit needs to be recognized and PURGED. Just like sometimes it sucks to cut a toxic family member out of your life... My friends, it is time to take a stand and DEMAND...
Brotherhood Accountability.
Quitting is only for the strong. The weak need to stay in the ditch and fund Phillip Morris jets. We have no time for weakness here. Purge these toxic examples and win!
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Absent for 3 days.
Idiot.
I smell another failure.
Let this be a lesson in the collective wisdom.
Day 4 absent.
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Absent for 3 days.
Idiot.
I smell another failure.
Let this be a lesson in the collective wisdom.
Day 4 absent.
Shocking...
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Absent for 3 days.
Idiot.
I smell another failure.
Let this be a lesson in the collective wisdom.
Day 4 absent.
Shocking...
Yep. Don't know how anyone could have thought he would have caved again....again....again....again.
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Absent for 3 days.
Idiot.
I smell another failure.
Let this be a lesson in the collective wisdom.
Day 4 absent.
Shocking...
Yep. Don't know how anyone could have thought he would have caved again....again....again....again.
Thanks, Nate.
I love when people prove me right. Repeatedly.
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Absent for 3 days.
Idiot.
I smell another failure.
Let this be a lesson in the collective wisdom.
Day 4 absent.
Shocking...
Yep. Don't know how anyone could have thought he would have caved again....again....again....again.
Thanks, Nate.
I love when people prove me right. Repeatedly.
Admins....can we ban this virus already?
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Absent for 3 days.
Idiot.
I smell another failure.
Let this be a lesson in the collective wisdom.
Day 4 absent.
Shocking...
Yep. Don't know how anyone could have thought he would have caved again....again....again....again.
Thanks, Nate.
I love when people prove me right. Repeatedly.
Admins....can we ban this virus already?
Wow... I just read through this monstrosity and I gotta say... Thank you Nate. If he ever reads this?? I don't know about banning and what not I'll leave that to the admins and mods but what a fine example of someone that just cannot admit the simple fact that when the going got tough it was just easier to give in to the nic bitch. I say thank you to him because of what I know, which is my 1,010 days quit with my brothers here have made me a better man. My relationships here and my quit continue to fuel a desire to continue the journey to become the man my son, wife, family and friends deserve to have in their life. I hope that Nate or anyone else that may be struggling can understand that message and be successful.
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Absent for 3 days.
Idiot.
I smell another failure.
Let this be a lesson in the collective wisdom.
Day 4 absent.
Shocking...
Yep. Don't know how anyone could have thought he would have caved again....again....again....again.
Thanks, Nate.
I love when people prove me right. Repeatedly.
Admins....can we ban this virus already?
Wow... I just read through this monstrosity and I gotta say... Thank you Nate. If he ever reads this?? I don't know about banning and what not I'll leave that to the admins and mods but what a fine example of someone that just cannot admit the simple fact that when the going got tough it was just easier to give in to the nic bitch. I say thank you to him because of what I know, which is my 1,010 days quit with my brothers here have made me a better man. My relationships here and my quit continue to fuel a desire to continue the journey to become the man my son, wife, family and friends deserve to have in their life. I hope that Nate or anyone else that may be struggling can understand that message and be successful.
Day 5 missing.
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Absent for 3 days.
Idiot.
I smell another failure.
Let this be a lesson in the collective wisdom.
Day 4 absent.
Shocking...
Yep. Don't know how anyone could have thought he would have caved again....again....again....again.
Thanks, Nate.
I love when people prove me right. Repeatedly.
Admins....can we ban this virus already?
Wow... I just read through this monstrosity and I gotta say... Thank you Nate. If he ever reads this?? I don't know about banning and what not I'll leave that to the admins and mods but what a fine example of someone that just cannot admit the simple fact that when the going got tough it was just easier to give in to the nic bitch. I say thank you to him because of what I know, which is my 1,010 days quit with my brothers here have made me a better man. My relationships here and my quit continue to fuel a desire to continue the journey to become the man my son, wife, family and friends deserve to have in their life. I hope that Nate or anyone else that may be struggling can understand that message and be successful.
Day 5 missing.
Completely wasted a shit ton of bad ass quitters time. Tons of guy's spent precious time trying to guide you and you shit on them yet again. You need to find your way out the door, because KTC is obviously not for you..
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Absent for 3 days.
Idiot.
I smell another failure.
Let this be a lesson in the collective wisdom.
Day 4 absent.
Shocking...
Yep. Don't know how anyone could have thought he would have caved again....again....again....again.
Thanks, Nate.
I love when people prove me right. Repeatedly.
Admins....can we ban this virus already?
Wow... I just read through this monstrosity and I gotta say... Thank you Nate. If he ever reads this?? I don't know about banning and what not I'll leave that to the admins and mods but what a fine example of someone that just cannot admit the simple fact that when the going got tough it was just easier to give in to the nic bitch. I say thank you to him because of what I know, which is my 1,010 days quit with my brothers here have made me a better man. My relationships here and my quit continue to fuel a desire to continue the journey to become the man my son, wife, family and friends deserve to have in their life. I hope that Nate or anyone else that may be struggling can understand that message and be successful.
Day 5 missing.
Completely wasted a shit ton of bad ass quitters time. Tons of guy's spent precious time trying to guide you and you shit on them yet again. You need to find your way out the door, because KTC is obviously not for you..
Any newbies that read this need to understand that Nate is not a quitter, he's a loser. He has had many opportunities and failed each time. Let this be a good lesson.
Don't be like Nate!!!
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Absent for 3 days.
Idiot.
I smell another failure.
Let this be a lesson in the collective wisdom.
Day 4 absent.
Shocking...
Yep. Don't know how anyone could have thought he would have caved again....again....again....again.
Thanks, Nate.
I love when people prove me right. Repeatedly.
Admins....can we ban this virus already?
Wow... I just read through this monstrosity and I gotta say... Thank you Nate. If he ever reads this?? I don't know about banning and what not I'll leave that to the admins and mods but what a fine example of someone that just cannot admit the simple fact that when the going got tough it was just easier to give in to the nic bitch. I say thank you to him because of what I know, which is my 1,010 days quit with my brothers here have made me a better man. My relationships here and my quit continue to fuel a desire to continue the journey to become the man my son, wife, family and friends deserve to have in their life. I hope that Nate or anyone else that may be struggling can understand that message and be successful.
Day 5 missing.
Completely wasted a shit ton of bad ass quitters time. Tons of guy's spent precious time trying to guide you and you shit on them yet again. You need to find your way out the door, because KTC is obviously not for you..
Any newbies that read this need to understand that Nate is not a quitter, he's a loser. He has had many opportunities and failed each time. Let this be a good lesson.
Don't be like Nate!!!
Nate you are a shit stain on the underwear of life. Ban this fuckstick. If this place has a shred of Bad Ass he must be banned.
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This crotch canoe was a HOF conductor? WTF.
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Absent for 3 days.
Idiot.
I smell another failure.
Let this be a lesson in the collective wisdom.
Day 4 absent.
Shocking...
Yep. Don't know how anyone could have thought he would have caved again....again....again....again.
Thanks, Nate.
I love when people prove me right. Repeatedly.
Admins....can we ban this virus already?
Wow... I just read through this monstrosity and I gotta say... Thank you Nate. If he ever reads this?? I don't know about banning and what not I'll leave that to the admins and mods but what a fine example of someone that just cannot admit the simple fact that when the going got tough it was just easier to give in to the nic bitch. I say thank you to him because of what I know, which is my 1,010 days quit with my brothers here have made me a better man. My relationships here and my quit continue to fuel a desire to continue the journey to become the man my son, wife, family and friends deserve to have in their life. I hope that Nate or anyone else that may be struggling can understand that message and be successful.
Day 5 missing.
Completely wasted a shit ton of bad ass quitters time. Tons of guy's spent precious time trying to guide you and you shit on them yet again. You need to find your way out the door, because KTC is obviously not for you..
Any newbies that read this need to understand that Nate is not a quitter, he's a loser. He has had many opportunities and failed each time. Let this be a good lesson.
Don't be like Nate!!!
Nate you are a shit stain on the underwear of life. Ban this fuckstick. If this place has a shred of Bad Ass he must be banned.
He should have been banned 2-3 "quits" ago.
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Absent for 3 days.
Idiot.
I smell another failure.
Let this be a lesson in the collective wisdom.
Day 4 absent.
Shocking...
Yep. Don't know how anyone could have thought he would have caved again....again....again....again.
Thanks, Nate.
I love when people prove me right. Repeatedly.
Admins....can we ban this virus already?
Wow... I just read through this monstrosity and I gotta say... Thank you Nate. If he ever reads this?? I don't know about banning and what not I'll leave that to the admins and mods but what a fine example of someone that just cannot admit the simple fact that when the going got tough it was just easier to give in to the nic bitch. I say thank you to him because of what I know, which is my 1,010 days quit with my brothers here have made me a better man. My relationships here and my quit continue to fuel a desire to continue the journey to become the man my son, wife, family and friends deserve to have in their life. I hope that Nate or anyone else that may be struggling can understand that message and be successful.
Day 5 missing.
Completely wasted a shit ton of bad ass quitters time. Tons of guy's spent precious time trying to guide you and you shit on them yet again. You need to find your way out the door, because KTC is obviously not for you..
Any newbies that read this need to understand that Nate is not a quitter, he's a loser. He has had many opportunities and failed each time. Let this be a good lesson.
Don't be like Nate!!!
Nate you are a shit stain on the underwear of life. Ban this fuckstick. If this place has a shred of Bad Ass he must be banned.
He should have been banned 2-3 "quits" ago.
11 days of nothing. Wow, this is a special kind of special. Please do not be a NateMcpherson. Heed the warnings and wisdom of the mean old krusty vets.
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Absent for 3 days.
Idiot.
I smell another failure.
Let this be a lesson in the collective wisdom.
Day 4 absent.
Shocking...
Yep. Don't know how anyone could have thought he would have caved again....again....again....again.
Thanks, Nate.
I love when people prove me right. Repeatedly.
Admins....can we ban this virus already?
Wow... I just read through this monstrosity and I gotta say... Thank you Nate. If he ever reads this?? I don't know about banning and what not I'll leave that to the admins and mods but what a fine example of someone that just cannot admit the simple fact that when the going got tough it was just easier to give in to the nic bitch. I say thank you to him because of what I know, which is my 1,010 days quit with my brothers here have made me a better man. My relationships here and my quit continue to fuel a desire to continue the journey to become the man my son, wife, family and friends deserve to have in their life. I hope that Nate or anyone else that may be struggling can understand that message and be successful.
Day 5 missing.
Completely wasted a shit ton of bad ass quitters time. Tons of guy's spent precious time trying to guide you and you shit on them yet again. You need to find your way out the door, because KTC is obviously not for you..
Any newbies that read this need to understand that Nate is not a quitter, he's a loser. He has had many opportunities and failed each time. Let this be a good lesson.
Don't be like Nate!!!
Nate you are a shit stain on the underwear of life. Ban this fuckstick. If this place has a shred of Bad Ass he must be banned.
He should have been banned 2-3 "quits" ago.
11 days of nothing. Wow, this is a special kind of special. Please do not be a NateMcpherson. Heed the warnings and wisdom of the mean old krusty vets.
Holy Fucking Shit!
My quit date was 3-10-16 and all this shit was going on right when I was in my fog........
don't remember any of it but sound's like he was on every month's roll for what.... 5 days...
POS