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Title: Day 1
Post by: dwbolto on April 02, 2013, 08:26:00 AM
Well...this is day 1. I've tried to quit hundreds of times with no success, but have a different feeling about this one. I'm on a program with my insurance company which provided the patch and gum at no charge which seems to provide me with more of a mandate to quit.

If I had a gun to my head and was forced to state the thing I am best at...it would have to be dipping. That's not to say I have no good skills, but I'm really good at dipping. Work, meetings, reading, movies, driving even church if I wanted. I can dip and no one knows I'm doing it....but I do. I know that I am setting myself up for cancer. I know that I am overweight b/c dip goes oh so well with sweet tea, coffee and beer.

The toughest part of quitting for me is the cycle of behaviors I have to master to succeed in this quit, both positive and negative. Failure anywhere within this cycle will most likely lead to a stop at the local convenience for a date with the bear.....and it will feel so good that first time.

But, if not now when? So I am choosing now. Any insight or support would be greatly appreciated. I am on my own on this journey and could use some friends going through the same thing I am about to.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: Grizzly25 on April 02, 2013, 08:56:00 AM
Quote from: dwbolto
Well...this is day 1. I've tried to quit hundreds of times with no success, but have a different feeling about this one. I'm on a program with my insurance company which provided the patch and gum at no charge which seems to provide me with more of a mandate to quit.

If I had a gun to my head and was forced to state the thing I am best at...it would have to be dipping. That's not to say I have no good skills, but I'm really good at dipping. Work, meetings, reading, movies, driving even church if I wanted. I can dip and no one knows I'm doing it....but I do. I know that I am setting myself up for cancer. I know that I am overweight b/c dip goes oh so well with sweet tea, coffee and beer.

The toughest part of quitting for me is the cycle of behaviors I have to master to succeed in this quit, both positive and negative. Failure anywhere within this cycle will most likely lead to a stop at the local convenience for a date with the bear.....and it will feel so good that first time.

But, if not now when? So I am choosing now. Any insight or support would be greatly appreciated. I am on my own on this journey and could use some friends going through the same thing I am about to.
Well post in your group and you will never be alone!

Read the intro section and gain as much knowledge as you can. This site is truly bad ass and only bad ass need apply!

Once you post your promise to not use nicotine in any form....keep it!

I know it doesn't sound like much but its the self drive and site accountability that make this the place to get your quit on!
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: dwbolto on April 02, 2013, 09:05:00 AM
Quote from: Grizzly25
Quote from: dwbolto
Well...this is day 1. I've tried to quit hundreds of times with no success, but have a different feeling about this one.  I'm on a program with my insurance company which provided the patch and gum at no charge which seems to provide me with more of a mandate to quit.

If I had a gun to my head and was forced to state the thing I am best at...it would have to be dipping.  That's not to say I have no good skills, but I'm really good at dipping.  Work, meetings, reading, movies, driving even church if I wanted.  I can dip and no one knows I'm doing it....but I do. I know that I am setting myself up for cancer. I know that I am overweight b/c dip goes oh so well with sweet tea, coffee and beer.

The toughest part of quitting for me is the cycle of behaviors I have to master to succeed in this quit, both positive and negative. Failure anywhere within this cycle will most likely lead to a stop at the local convenience for a date with the bear.....and it will feel so good that first time.

But, if not now when? So I am choosing now. Any insight or support would be greatly appreciated.  I am on my own on this journey and could use some friends going through the same thing I am about to.
Well post in your group and you will never be alone!

Read the intro section and gain as much knowledge as you can. This site is truly bad ass and only bad ass need apply!

Once you post your promise to not use nicotine in any form....keep it!

I know it doesn't sound like much but its the self drive and site accountability that make this the place to get your quit on!
Thanks brother..It does feel good to have a place to go like this!
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: Marcusaurelius on April 02, 2013, 09:08:00 AM
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Grizzly25
Quote from: dwbolto
Well...this is day 1. I've tried to quit hundreds of times with no success, but have a different feeling about this one.  I'm on a program with my insurance company which provided the patch and gum at no charge which seems to provide me with more of a mandate to quit.

If I had a gun to my head and was forced to state the thing I am best at...it would have to be dipping.  That's not to say I have no good skills, but I'm really good at dipping.  Work, meetings, reading, movies, driving even church if I wanted.  I can dip and no one knows I'm doing it....but I do. I know that I am setting myself up for cancer. I know that I am overweight b/c dip goes oh so well with sweet tea, coffee and beer.

The toughest part of quitting for me is the cycle of behaviors I have to master to succeed in this quit, both positive and negative. Failure anywhere within this cycle will most likely lead to a stop at the local convenience for a date with the bear.....and it will feel so good that first time.

But, if not now when? So I am choosing now. Any insight or support would be greatly appreciated.  I am on my own on this journey and could use some friends going through the same thing I am about to.
Well post in your group and you will never be alone!

Read the intro section and gain as much knowledge as you can. This site is truly bad ass and only bad ass need apply!

Once you post your promise to not use nicotine in any form....keep it!

I know it doesn't sound like much but its the self drive and site accountability that make this the place to get your quit on!
Thanks brother..It does feel good to have a place to go like this!
Did you say you were on the patch and gum?
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: dwbolto on April 02, 2013, 09:17:00 AM
Quote from: marcusaurelius
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Grizzly25
Quote from: dwbolto
Well...this is day 1. I've tried to quit hundreds of times with no success, but have a different feeling about this one.  I'm on a program with my insurance company which provided the patch and gum at no charge which seems to provide me with more of a mandate to quit.

If I had a gun to my head and was forced to state the thing I am best at...it would have to be dipping.  That's not to say I have no good skills, but I'm really good at dipping.  Work, meetings, reading, movies, driving even church if I wanted.  I can dip and no one knows I'm doing it....but I do. I know that I am setting myself up for cancer. I know that I am overweight b/c dip goes oh so well with sweet tea, coffee and beer.

The toughest part of quitting for me is the cycle of behaviors I have to master to succeed in this quit, both positive and negative. Failure anywhere within this cycle will most likely lead to a stop at the local convenience for a date with the bear.....and it will feel so good that first time.

But, if not now when? So I am choosing now. Any insight or support would be greatly appreciated.  I am on my own on this journey and could use some friends going through the same thing I am about to.
Well post in your group and you will never be alone!

Read the intro section and gain as much knowledge as you can. This site is truly bad ass and only bad ass need apply!

Once you post your promise to not use nicotine in any form....keep it!

I know it doesn't sound like much but its the self drive and site accountability that make this the place to get your quit on!
Thanks brother..It does feel good to have a place to go like this!
Did you say you were on the patch and gum?
I thought that might come up.....

I am. The state of SC has partnered with this organization for everyone in the state. I happen to have insurance that partners with them as well so all services are free for me.

I did ask them about combining the two and they said it is fine. Apparently nicorette doesn't recommend it, but the FDA does not have a problem with it.

The way I see it, the patch and gum haven't worked long term for me on their own and maybe the combo will. If I feel bad I will stop, but I don't think it can be worse than Kodiak.

I'll keep you updated.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: Wt57 on April 02, 2013, 09:17:00 AM
Quote from: marcusaurelius
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Grizzly25
Quote from: dwbolto
Well...this is day 1. I've tried to quit hundreds of times with no success, but have a different feeling about this one.  I'm on a program with my insurance company which provided the patch and gum at no charge which seems to provide me with more of a mandate to quit.

If I had a gun to my head and was forced to state the thing I am best at...it would have to be dipping.  That's not to say I have no good skills, but I'm really good at dipping.  Work, meetings, reading, movies, driving even church if I wanted.  I can dip and no one knows I'm doing it....but I do. I know that I am setting myself up for cancer. I know that I am overweight b/c dip goes oh so well with sweet tea, coffee and beer.

The toughest part of quitting for me is the cycle of behaviors I have to master to succeed in this quit, both positive and negative. Failure anywhere within this cycle will most likely lead to a stop at the local convenience for a date with the bear.....and it will feel so good that first time.

But, if not now when? So I am choosing now. Any insight or support would be greatly appreciated.  I am on my own on this journey and could use some friends going through the same thing I am about to.
Well post in your group and you will never be alone!

Read the intro section and gain as much knowledge as you can. This site is truly bad ass and only bad ass need apply!

Once you post your promise to not use nicotine in any form....keep it!

I know it doesn't sound like much but its the self drive and site accountability that make this the place to get your quit on!
Thanks brother..It does feel good to have a place to go like this!
Did you say you were on the patch and gum?
This is a zero nicotine site!!! If you truly want to quit for you you can do it. Using patches or gum is bullshit, it only changes the mode of introducing nicotine into your system.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: dwbolto on April 02, 2013, 09:18:00 AM
Quote from: Wt57
Quote from: marcusaurelius
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Grizzly25
Quote from: dwbolto
Well...this is day 1. I've tried to quit hundreds of times with no success, but have a different feeling about this one.  I'm on a program with my insurance company which provided the patch and gum at no charge which seems to provide me with more of a mandate to quit.

If I had a gun to my head and was forced to state the thing I am best at...it would have to be dipping.  That's not to say I have no good skills, but I'm really good at dipping.  Work, meetings, reading, movies, driving even church if I wanted.  I can dip and no one knows I'm doing it....but I do. I know that I am setting myself up for cancer. I know that I am overweight b/c dip goes oh so well with sweet tea, coffee and beer.

The toughest part of quitting for me is the cycle of behaviors I have to master to succeed in this quit, both positive and negative. Failure anywhere within this cycle will most likely lead to a stop at the local convenience for a date with the bear.....and it will feel so good that first time.

But, if not now when? So I am choosing now. Any insight or support would be greatly appreciated.  I am on my own on this journey and could use some friends going through the same thing I am about to.
Well post in your group and you will never be alone!

Read the intro section and gain as much knowledge as you can. This site is truly bad ass and only bad ass need apply!

Once you post your promise to not use nicotine in any form....keep it!

I know it doesn't sound like much but its the self drive and site accountability that make this the place to get your quit on!
Thanks brother..It does feel good to have a place to go like this!
Did you say you were on the patch and gum?
This is a zero nicotine site!!! If you truly want to quit for you you can do it. Using patches or gum is bullshit, it only changes the mode of introducing nicotine into your system.
So I'm blackballed already.....I didn't realize this was a no patch/gum site. I respect that but I have tried many times to quit in every way. This time I am using the products so if this isn't the site for me so be it. Best of luck to everyone in their journey to quit.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: Rob1985 on April 02, 2013, 09:23:00 AM
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Grizzly25
Quote from: dwbolto
Well...this is day 1. I've tried to quit hundreds of times with no success, but have a different feeling about this one.  I'm on a program with my insurance company which provided the patch and gum at no charge which seems to provide me with more of a mandate to quit.

If I had a gun to my head and was forced to state the thing I am best at...it would have to be dipping.  That's not to say I have no good skills, but I'm really good at dipping.  Work, meetings, reading, movies, driving even church if I wanted.  I can dip and no one knows I'm doing it....but I do. I know that I am setting myself up for cancer. I know that I am overweight b/c dip goes oh so well with sweet tea, coffee and beer.

The toughest part of quitting for me is the cycle of behaviors I have to master to succeed in this quit, both positive and negative. Failure anywhere within this cycle will most likely lead to a stop at the local convenience for a date with the bear.....and it will feel so good that first time.

But, if not now when? So I am choosing now. Any insight or support would be greatly appreciated.  I am on my own on this journey and could use some friends going through the same thing I am about to.
Well post in your group and you will never be alone!

Read the intro section and gain as much knowledge as you can. This site is truly bad ass and only bad ass need apply!

Once you post your promise to not use nicotine in any form....keep it!

I know it doesn't sound like much but its the self drive and site accountability that make this the place to get your quit on!
Thanks brother..It does feel good to have a place to go like this!
remember that this is not only a place to kick smokeless tobacco, but we get to the root of the issue and that's the Nic Bitch. She's well, a bitch. She's ruthless, she wants you for herself.Her and her friend "Nitrosamines" have a big party inside your body until one day you end up with cancer. She has deceived you, stolen money, but the biggest one of them all.. she stole your life and you had the opportunity to quit.

So here we go man... you ready to take your life back?

If so.... go here first the Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13)

Then go to July Pre-HOF class (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8025) and post roll. If you don't know how, private message anyone of the people you see posting roll and they will help you. We are all in this together. No one else's quit is better than another. We are all equally recovering!

Oh, in case you don't know what "Nitrosamines" are Google it, you'll never want to put that shit back in your mouth ever again. A lot of things we consume have them, but processed tobacco has an astronomical amount.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: Rob1985 on April 02, 2013, 09:26:00 AM
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Wt57
Quote from: marcusaurelius
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Grizzly25
Quote from: dwbolto
Well...this is day 1. I've tried to quit hundreds of times with no success, but have a different feeling about this one.  I'm on a program with my insurance company which provided the patch and gum at no charge which seems to provide me with more of a mandate to quit.

If I had a gun to my head and was forced to state the thing I am best at...it would have to be dipping.  That's not to say I have no good skills, but I'm really good at dipping.  Work, meetings, reading, movies, driving even church if I wanted.  I can dip and no one knows I'm doing it....but I do. I know that I am setting myself up for cancer. I know that I am overweight b/c dip goes oh so well with sweet tea, coffee and beer.

The toughest part of quitting for me is the cycle of behaviors I have to master to succeed in this quit, both positive and negative. Failure anywhere within this cycle will most likely lead to a stop at the local convenience for a date with the bear.....and it will feel so good that first time.

But, if not now when? So I am choosing now. Any insight or support would be greatly appreciated.  I am on my own on this journey and could use some friends going through the same thing I am about to.
Well post in your group and you will never be alone!

Read the intro section and gain as much knowledge as you can. This site is truly bad ass and only bad ass need apply!

Once you post your promise to not use nicotine in any form....keep it!

I know it doesn't sound like much but its the self drive and site accountability that make this the place to get your quit on!
Thanks brother..It does feel good to have a place to go like this!
Did you say you were on the patch and gum?
This is a zero nicotine site!!! If you truly want to quit for you you can do it. Using patches or gum is bullshit, it only changes the mode of introducing nicotine into your system.
So I'm blackballed already.....
BTW, you're not blackballed.We don't turn people away, but our way of quitting is cold turkey and it works. You can browse the site, but if you intend to post roll, you need to spit it out, and flush every thing down the crapper. So get to quitting and living, instead of dipping and dying. 'flush'
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: Gunner75 on April 02, 2013, 09:27:00 AM
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Wt57
Quote from: marcusaurelius
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Grizzly25
Quote from: dwbolto
Well...this is day 1. I've tried to quit hundreds of times with no success, but have a different feeling about this one.  I'm on a program with my insurance company which provided the patch and gum at no charge which seems to provide me with more of a mandate to quit.

If I had a gun to my head and was forced to state the thing I am best at...it would have to be dipping.  That's not to say I have no good skills, but I'm really good at dipping.  Work, meetings, reading, movies, driving even church if I wanted.  I can dip and no one knows I'm doing it....but I do. I know that I am setting myself up for cancer. I know that I am overweight b/c dip goes oh so well with sweet tea, coffee and beer.

The toughest part of quitting for me is the cycle of behaviors I have to master to succeed in this quit, both positive and negative. Failure anywhere within this cycle will most likely lead to a stop at the local convenience for a date with the bear.....and it will feel so good that first time.

But, if not now when? So I am choosing now. Any insight or support would be greatly appreciated.  I am on my own on this journey and could use some friends going through the same thing I am about to.
Well post in your group and you will never be alone!

Read the intro section and gain as much knowledge as you can. This site is truly bad ass and only bad ass need apply!

Once you post your promise to not use nicotine in any form....keep it!

I know it doesn't sound like much but its the self drive and site accountability that make this the place to get your quit on!
Thanks brother..It does feel good to have a place to go like this!
Did you say you were on the patch and gum?
This is a zero nicotine site!!! If you truly want to quit for you you can do it. Using patches or gum is bullshit, it only changes the mode of introducing nicotine into your system.
So I'm blackballed already.....
No, your just getting advice from those who know how to get you to where you are trying to be.

You want to quit, you need to walk away from the source, and thats nicotine my friend.

Ditch the gum and the patch.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: dwbolto on April 02, 2013, 09:27:00 AM
Quote from: Rob1985
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Grizzly25
Quote from: dwbolto
Well...this is day 1. I've tried to quit hundreds of times with no success, but have a different feeling about this one.  I'm on a program with my insurance company which provided the patch and gum at no charge which seems to provide me with more of a mandate to quit.

If I had a gun to my head and was forced to state the thing I am best at...it would have to be dipping.  That's not to say I have no good skills, but I'm really good at dipping.  Work, meetings, reading, movies, driving even church if I wanted.  I can dip and no one knows I'm doing it....but I do. I know that I am setting myself up for cancer. I know that I am overweight b/c dip goes oh so well with sweet tea, coffee and beer.

The toughest part of quitting for me is the cycle of behaviors I have to master to succeed in this quit, both positive and negative. Failure anywhere within this cycle will most likely lead to a stop at the local convenience for a date with the bear.....and it will feel so good that first time.

But, if not now when? So I am choosing now. Any insight or support would be greatly appreciated.  I am on my own on this journey and could use some friends going through the same thing I am about to.
Well post in your group and you will never be alone!

Read the intro section and gain as much knowledge as you can. This site is truly bad ass and only bad ass need apply!

Once you post your promise to not use nicotine in any form....keep it!

I know it doesn't sound like much but its the self drive and site accountability that make this the place to get your quit on!
Thanks brother..It does feel good to have a place to go like this!
remember that this is not only a place to kick smokeless tobacco, but we get to the root of the issue and that's the Nic Bitch. She's well, a bitch. She's ruthless, she wants you for herself.Her and her friend "Nitrosamines" have a big party inside your body until one day you end up with cancer. She has deceived you, stolen money, but the biggest one of them all.. she stole your life and you had the opportunity to quit.

So here we go man... you ready to take your life back?

If so.... go here first the Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13)

Then go to July Pre-HOF class (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8025) and post roll. If you don't know how, private message anyone of the people you see posting roll and they will help you. We are all in this together. No one else's quit is better than another. We are all equally recovering!

Oh, in case you don't know what "Nitrosamines" are Google it, you'll never want to put that shit back in your mouth ever again. A lot of things we consume have them, but processed tobacco has an astronomical amount.
I do appreciate that, but I am using the products for this quit. I know many people that have quit using them as well as those that went cold turkey. I do wish you much success.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: Rob1985 on April 02, 2013, 09:31:00 AM
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Rob1985
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Grizzly25
Quote from: dwbolto
Well...this is day 1. I've tried to quit hundreds of times with no success, but have a different feeling about this one.  I'm on a program with my insurance company which provided the patch and gum at no charge which seems to provide me with more of a mandate to quit.

If I had a gun to my head and was forced to state the thing I am best at...it would have to be dipping.  That's not to say I have no good skills, but I'm really good at dipping.  Work, meetings, reading, movies, driving even church if I wanted.  I can dip and no one knows I'm doing it....but I do. I know that I am setting myself up for cancer. I know that I am overweight b/c dip goes oh so well with sweet tea, coffee and beer.

The toughest part of quitting for me is the cycle of behaviors I have to master to succeed in this quit, both positive and negative. Failure anywhere within this cycle will most likely lead to a stop at the local convenience for a date with the bear.....and it will feel so good that first time.

But, if not now when? So I am choosing now. Any insight or support would be greatly appreciated.  I am on my own on this journey and could use some friends going through the same thing I am about to.
Well post in your group and you will never be alone!

Read the intro section and gain as much knowledge as you can. This site is truly bad ass and only bad ass need apply!

Once you post your promise to not use nicotine in any form....keep it!

I know it doesn't sound like much but its the self drive and site accountability that make this the place to get your quit on!
Thanks brother..It does feel good to have a place to go like this!
remember that this is not only a place to kick smokeless tobacco, but we get to the root of the issue and that's the Nic Bitch. She's well, a bitch. She's ruthless, she wants you for herself.Her and her friend "Nitrosamines" have a big party inside your body until one day you end up with cancer. She has deceived you, stolen money, but the biggest one of them all.. she stole your life and you had the opportunity to quit.

So here we go man... you ready to take your life back?

If so.... go here first the Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13)

Then go to July Pre-HOF class (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8025) and post roll. If you don't know how, private message anyone of the people you see posting roll and they will help you. We are all in this together. No one else's quit is better than another. We are all equally recovering!

Oh, in case you don't know what "Nitrosamines" are Google it, you'll never want to put that shit back in your mouth ever again. A lot of things we consume have them, but processed tobacco has an astronomical amount.
I do appreciate that, but I am using the products for this quit. I know many people that have quit using them as well as those that went cold turkey. I do wish you much success.
well, then don't waste anymore of our time. But when you fail, we'll be there in the back of your head and you will realize the patch, gum, suppository or whatever is a crutch. It's nothing more than a different route of delivery and it will not lead to success. What leads to success to quitting cold turkey and having a real and legit support group. Where else can you find thousand of quitters that will bend over backwards to help you? Nowhere... choice is yours. Wish me luck? Shit I wish you luck I know I am quit!
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: dwbolto on April 02, 2013, 09:35:00 AM
Quote from: Rob1985
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Rob1985
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Grizzly25
Quote from: dwbolto
Well...this is day 1. I've tried to quit hundreds of times with no success, but have a different feeling about this one.  I'm on a program with my insurance company which provided the patch and gum at no charge which seems to provide me with more of a mandate to quit.

If I had a gun to my head and was forced to state the thing I am best at...it would have to be dipping.  That's not to say I have no good skills, but I'm really good at dipping.  Work, meetings, reading, movies, driving even church if I wanted.  I can dip and no one knows I'm doing it....but I do. I know that I am setting myself up for cancer. I know that I am overweight b/c dip goes oh so well with sweet tea, coffee and beer.

The toughest part of quitting for me is the cycle of behaviors I have to master to succeed in this quit, both positive and negative. Failure anywhere within this cycle will most likely lead to a stop at the local convenience for a date with the bear.....and it will feel so good that first time.

But, if not now when? So I am choosing now. Any insight or support would be greatly appreciated.  I am on my own on this journey and could use some friends going through the same thing I am about to.
Well post in your group and you will never be alone!

Read the intro section and gain as much knowledge as you can. This site is truly bad ass and only bad ass need apply!

Once you post your promise to not use nicotine in any form....keep it!

I know it doesn't sound like much but its the self drive and site accountability that make this the place to get your quit on!
Thanks brother..It does feel good to have a place to go like this!
remember that this is not only a place to kick smokeless tobacco, but we get to the root of the issue and that's the Nic Bitch. She's well, a bitch. She's ruthless, she wants you for herself.Her and her friend "Nitrosamines" have a big party inside your body until one day you end up with cancer. She has deceived you, stolen money, but the biggest one of them all.. she stole your life and you had the opportunity to quit.

So here we go man... you ready to take your life back?

If so.... go here first the Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13)

Then go to July Pre-HOF class (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8025) and post roll. If you don't know how, private message anyone of the people you see posting roll and they will help you. We are all in this together. No one else's quit is better than another. We are all equally recovering!

Oh, in case you don't know what "Nitrosamines" are Google it, you'll never want to put that shit back in your mouth ever again. A lot of things we consume have them, but processed tobacco has an astronomical amount.
I do appreciate that, but I am using the products for this quit. I know many people that have quit using them as well as those that went cold turkey. I do wish you much success.
well, then don't waste anymore of our time. But when you fail, we'll be there in the back of your head and you will realize the patch, gum, suppository or whatever is a crutch. It's nothing more than a different route of delivery and it will not lead to success. What leads to success to quitting cold turkey and having a real and legit support group. Where else can you find thousand of quitters that will bend over backwards to help you? Nowhere... choice is yours. Wish me luck? Shit I wish you luck I know I am quit!
I have no doubt this site works, but if I were a weaker person a trip to get some dip would be happening ASAP. I'm glad this is working for you, and maybe I'll be back and readily admit this is the only way to go. But I think you should be less hostile when dealing with someone attempting to quit. No different than the crap happening in DC right now. Stop being so righteous and just try to help people. I admitted this wasn't for me and wished you the best. Get over yourself.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: Rob1985 on April 02, 2013, 09:41:00 AM
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Quote from: Grizzly25
Quote from: dwbolto
Well...this is day 1. I've tried to quit hundreds of times with no success, but have a different feeling about this one.  I'm on a program with my insurance company which provided the patch and gum at no charge which seems to provide me with more of a mandate to quit.

If I had a gun to my head and was forced to state the thing I am best at...it would have to be dipping.  That's not to say I have no good skills, but I'm really good at dipping.  Work, meetings, reading, movies, driving even church if I wanted.  I can dip and no one knows I'm doing it....but I do. I know that I am setting myself up for cancer. I know that I am overweight b/c dip goes oh so well with sweet tea, coffee and beer.

The toughest part of quitting for me is the cycle of behaviors I have to master to succeed in this quit, both positive and negative. Failure anywhere within this cycle will most likely lead to a stop at the local convenience for a date with the bear.....and it will feel so good that first time.

But, if not now when? So I am choosing now. Any insight or support would be greatly appreciated.  I am on my own on this journey and could use some friends going through the same thing I am about to.
Well post in your group and you will never be alone!

Read the intro section and gain as much knowledge as you can. This site is truly bad ass and only bad ass need apply!

Once you post your promise to not use nicotine in any form....keep it!

I know it doesn't sound like much but its the self drive and site accountability that make this the place to get your quit on!
Thanks brother..It does feel good to have a place to go like this!
remember that this is not only a place to kick smokeless tobacco, but we get to the root of the issue and that's the Nic Bitch. She's well, a bitch. She's ruthless, she wants you for herself.Her and her friend "Nitrosamines" have a big party inside your body until one day you end up with cancer. She has deceived you, stolen money, but the biggest one of them all.. she stole your life and you had the opportunity to quit.

So here we go man... you ready to take your life back?

If so.... go here first the Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13)

Then go to July Pre-HOF class (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8025) and post roll. If you don't know how, private message anyone of the people you see posting roll and they will help you. We are all in this together. No one else's quit is better than another. We are all equally recovering!

Oh, in case you don't know what "Nitrosamines" are Google it, you'll never want to put that shit back in your mouth ever again. A lot of things we consume have them, but processed tobacco has an astronomical amount.
I do appreciate that, but I am using the products for this quit. I know many people that have quit using them as well as those that went cold turkey. I do wish you much success.
well, then don't waste anymore of our time. But when you fail, we'll be there in the back of your head and you will realize the patch, gum, suppository or whatever is a crutch. It's nothing more than a different route of delivery and it will not lead to success. What leads to success to quitting cold turkey and having a real and legit support group. Where else can you find thousand of quitters that will bend over backwards to help you? Nowhere... choice is yours. Wish me luck? Shit I wish you luck I know I am quit!
I have no doubt this site works, but if I were a weaker person a trip to get some dip would be happening ASAP. I'm glad this is working for you, and maybe I'll be back and readily admit this is the only way to go. But I think you should be less hostile when dealing with someone attempting to quit. No different than the crap happening in DC right now. Stop being so righteous and just try to help people. I admitted this wasn't for me and wished you the best. Get over yourself.
Weaker person? Dude you're an addict, admit that you can't control it! I'd have to say you're the weak one for using the patch or gum.

Hostile? No, offended that you're still engaging people on site that is proven, yes! We aren't any different than you. 39 days ago I was in your spot, contemplating quitting. So I dove in!

Over myself? I'm the one who has been quit for 39 days, you aren't. So yes, I have the right to say I am stronger than you! PERIOD!

I am not going to debate this with you any longer. I am going to enjoy my daily quit, go talk my new friends and help people who truly want be helped. One day you will figure it out and then you will come back and admit you failed. They see it a lot here.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: dwbolto on April 02, 2013, 09:52:00 AM
Quote from: Rob1985
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Rob1985
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Rob1985
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Grizzly25
Quote from: dwbolto
Well...this is day 1. I've tried to quit hundreds of times with no success, but have a different feeling about this one.  I'm on a program with my insurance company which provided the patch and gum at no charge which seems to provide me with more of a mandate to quit.

If I had a gun to my head and was forced to state the thing I am best at...it would have to be dipping.  That's not to say I have no good skills, but I'm really good at dipping.  Work, meetings, reading, movies, driving even church if I wanted.  I can dip and no one knows I'm doing it....but I do. I know that I am setting myself up for cancer. I know that I am overweight b/c dip goes oh so well with sweet tea, coffee and beer.

The toughest part of quitting for me is the cycle of behaviors I have to master to succeed in this quit, both positive and negative. Failure anywhere within this cycle will most likely lead to a stop at the local convenience for a date with the bear.....and it will feel so good that first time.

But, if not now when? So I am choosing now. Any insight or support would be greatly appreciated.  I am on my own on this journey and could use some friends going through the same thing I am about to.
Well post in your group and you will never be alone!

Read the intro section and gain as much knowledge as you can. This site is truly bad ass and only bad ass need apply!

Once you post your promise to not use nicotine in any form....keep it!

I know it doesn't sound like much but its the self drive and site accountability that make this the place to get your quit on!
Thanks brother..It does feel good to have a place to go like this!
remember that this is not only a place to kick smokeless tobacco, but we get to the root of the issue and that's the Nic Bitch. She's well, a bitch. She's ruthless, she wants you for herself.Her and her friend "Nitrosamines" have a big party inside your body until one day you end up with cancer. She has deceived you, stolen money, but the biggest one of them all.. she stole your life and you had the opportunity to quit.

So here we go man... you ready to take your life back?

If so.... go here first the Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13)

Then go to July Pre-HOF class (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8025) and post roll. If you don't know how, private message anyone of the people you see posting roll and they will help you. We are all in this together. No one else's quit is better than another. We are all equally recovering!

Oh, in case you don't know what "Nitrosamines" are Google it, you'll never want to put that shit back in your mouth ever again. A lot of things we consume have them, but processed tobacco has an astronomical amount.
I do appreciate that, but I am using the products for this quit. I know many people that have quit using them as well as those that went cold turkey. I do wish you much success.
well, then don't waste anymore of our time. But when you fail, we'll be there in the back of your head and you will realize the patch, gum, suppository or whatever is a crutch. It's nothing more than a different route of delivery and it will not lead to success. What leads to success to quitting cold turkey and having a real and legit support group. Where else can you find thousand of quitters that will bend over backwards to help you? Nowhere... choice is yours. Wish me luck? Shit I wish you luck I know I am quit!
I have no doubt this site works, but if I were a weaker person a trip to get some dip would be happening ASAP. I'm glad this is working for you, and maybe I'll be back and readily admit this is the only way to go. But I think you should be less hostile when dealing with someone attempting to quit. No different than the crap happening in DC right now. Stop being so righteous and just try to help people. I admitted this wasn't for me and wished you the best. Get over yourself.
Weaker person? Dude you're an addict, admit that you can't control it! I'd have to say you're the weak one for using the patch or gum.

Hostile? No, offended that you're still engaging people on site that is proven, yes! We aren't any different than you. 39 days ago I was in your spot, contemplating quitting. So I dove in!

Over myself? I'm the one who has been quit for 39 days, you aren't. So yes, I have the right to say I am stronger than you! PERIOD!

I am not going to debate this with you any longer. I am going to enjoy my daily quit, go talk my new friends and help people who truly want be helped. One day you will figure it out and then you will come back and admit you failed. They see it a lot here.
I am going to sign off as I don't want to be a distraction. But you are an ass. I'm a glad you've quit for 39 days, but guess what I've done that too...cold turkey....and started back. Keep being arrogant and you'll be chain dipping just like the rest of us. Have some humility...realize this is day one of my quit.....say something like, "We are a nicotene free site, so maybe you should come back if the patch doesn't work. but best of luck and congrats on day 1." You're one of those people who talk big online, but probably can't back it up in person....which is why I've never joined a forum before. One day you will not be able to hide behind your "avatar" and will realize that yelling at someone from behind your keyboard is cowardly. You are anything but strong. But I'm glad the keyboard steroids are working for you.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: kkljinc on April 02, 2013, 10:00:00 AM
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Rob1985
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Rob1985
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Rob1985
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Grizzly25
Quote from: dwbolto
Well...this is day 1. I've tried to quit hundreds of times with no success, but have a different feeling about this one.  I'm on a program with my insurance company which provided the patch and gum at no charge which seems to provide me with more of a mandate to quit.

If I had a gun to my head and was forced to state the thing I am best at...it would have to be dipping.  That's not to say I have no good skills, but I'm really good at dipping.  Work, meetings, reading, movies, driving even church if I wanted.  I can dip and no one knows I'm doing it....but I do. I know that I am setting myself up for cancer. I know that I am overweight b/c dip goes oh so well with sweet tea, coffee and beer.

The toughest part of quitting for me is the cycle of behaviors I have to master to succeed in this quit, both positive and negative. Failure anywhere within this cycle will most likely lead to a stop at the local convenience for a date with the bear.....and it will feel so good that first time.

But, if not now when? So I am choosing now. Any insight or support would be greatly appreciated.  I am on my own on this journey and could use some friends going through the same thing I am about to.
Well post in your group and you will never be alone!

Read the intro section and gain as much knowledge as you can. This site is truly bad ass and only bad ass need apply!

Once you post your promise to not use nicotine in any form....keep it!

I know it doesn't sound like much but its the self drive and site accountability that make this the place to get your quit on!
Thanks brother..It does feel good to have a place to go like this!
remember that this is not only a place to kick smokeless tobacco, but we get to the root of the issue and that's the Nic Bitch. She's well, a bitch. She's ruthless, she wants you for herself.Her and her friend "Nitrosamines" have a big party inside your body until one day you end up with cancer. She has deceived you, stolen money, but the biggest one of them all.. she stole your life and you had the opportunity to quit.

So here we go man... you ready to take your life back?

If so.... go here first the Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13)

Then go to July Pre-HOF class (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8025) and post roll. If you don't know how, private message anyone of the people you see posting roll and they will help you. We are all in this together. No one else's quit is better than another. We are all equally recovering!

Oh, in case you don't know what "Nitrosamines" are Google it, you'll never want to put that shit back in your mouth ever again. A lot of things we consume have them, but processed tobacco has an astronomical amount.
I do appreciate that, but I am using the products for this quit. I know many people that have quit using them as well as those that went cold turkey. I do wish you much success.
well, then don't waste anymore of our time. But when you fail, we'll be there in the back of your head and you will realize the patch, gum, suppository or whatever is a crutch. It's nothing more than a different route of delivery and it will not lead to success. What leads to success to quitting cold turkey and having a real and legit support group. Where else can you find thousand of quitters that will bend over backwards to help you? Nowhere... choice is yours. Wish me luck? Shit I wish you luck I know I am quit!
I have no doubt this site works, but if I were a weaker person a trip to get some dip would be happening ASAP. I'm glad this is working for you, and maybe I'll be back and readily admit this is the only way to go. But I think you should be less hostile when dealing with someone attempting to quit. No different than the crap happening in DC right now. Stop being so righteous and just try to help people. I admitted this wasn't for me and wished you the best. Get over yourself.
Weaker person? Dude you're an addict, admit that you can't control it! I'd have to say you're the weak one for using the patch or gum.

Hostile? No, offended that you're still engaging people on site that is proven, yes! We aren't any different than you. 39 days ago I was in your spot, contemplating quitting. So I dove in!

Over myself? I'm the one who has been quit for 39 days, you aren't. So yes, I have the right to say I am stronger than you! PERIOD!

I am not going to debate this with you any longer. I am going to enjoy my daily quit, go talk my new friends and help people who truly want be helped. One day you will figure it out and then you will come back and admit you failed. They see it a lot here.
I am going to sign off as I don't want to be a distraction. But you are an ass. I'm a glad you've quit for 39 days, but guess what I've done that too...cold turkey....and started back. Keep being arrogant and you'll be chain dipping just like the rest of us. Have some humility...realize this is day one of my quit.....say something like, "We are a nicotene free site, so maybe you should come back if the patch doesn't work. but best of luck and congrats on day 1." You're one of those people who talk big online, but probably can't back it up in person....which is why I've never joined a forum before. One day you will not be able to hide behind your "avatar" and will realize that yelling at someone from behind your keyboard is cowardly. You are anything but strong. But I'm glad the keyboard steroids are working for you.
'bang head' DW, yea we can have some tough love around here, and I am sorry to see you go. You yourself said you have tried to quit 100's of times, how is this time going to be different? Because you have a patch or gum? Nope,your still an addict and have not quit shit. That's all Rob was trying to explain.

Your entire thread already says you are planning your cave. Good luck with everything, but when you want to get serious come on back and jump in, the water is fine and the kool-aide tastes great.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: Rob1985 on April 02, 2013, 10:02:00 AM
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Rob1985
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Rob1985
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Rob1985
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Grizzly25
Quote from: dwbolto
Well...this is day 1. I've tried to quit hundreds of times with no success, but have a different feeling about this one.  I'm on a program with my insurance company which provided the patch and gum at no charge which seems to provide me with more of a mandate to quit.

If I had a gun to my head and was forced to state the thing I am best at...it would have to be dipping.  That's not to say I have no good skills, but I'm really good at dipping.  Work, meetings, reading, movies, driving even church if I wanted.  I can dip and no one knows I'm doing it....but I do. I know that I am setting myself up for cancer. I know that I am overweight b/c dip goes oh so well with sweet tea, coffee and beer.

The toughest part of quitting for me is the cycle of behaviors I have to master to succeed in this quit, both positive and negative. Failure anywhere within this cycle will most likely lead to a stop at the local convenience for a date with the bear.....and it will feel so good that first time.

But, if not now when? So I am choosing now. Any insight or support would be greatly appreciated.  I am on my own on this journey and could use some friends going through the same thing I am about to.
Well post in your group and you will never be alone!

Read the intro section and gain as much knowledge as you can. This site is truly bad ass and only bad ass need apply!

Once you post your promise to not use nicotine in any form....keep it!

I know it doesn't sound like much but its the self drive and site accountability that make this the place to get your quit on!
Thanks brother..It does feel good to have a place to go like this!
remember that this is not only a place to kick smokeless tobacco, but we get to the root of the issue and that's the Nic Bitch. She's well, a bitch. She's ruthless, she wants you for herself.Her and her friend "Nitrosamines" have a big party inside your body until one day you end up with cancer. She has deceived you, stolen money, but the biggest one of them all.. she stole your life and you had the opportunity to quit.

So here we go man... you ready to take your life back?

If so.... go here first the Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13)

Then go to July Pre-HOF class (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8025) and post roll. If you don't know how, private message anyone of the people you see posting roll and they will help you. We are all in this together. No one else's quit is better than another. We are all equally recovering!

Oh, in case you don't know what "Nitrosamines" are Google it, you'll never want to put that shit back in your mouth ever again. A lot of things we consume have them, but processed tobacco has an astronomical amount.
I do appreciate that, but I am using the products for this quit. I know many people that have quit using them as well as those that went cold turkey. I do wish you much success.
well, then don't waste anymore of our time. But when you fail, we'll be there in the back of your head and you will realize the patch, gum, suppository or whatever is a crutch. It's nothing more than a different route of delivery and it will not lead to success. What leads to success to quitting cold turkey and having a real and legit support group. Where else can you find thousand of quitters that will bend over backwards to help you? Nowhere... choice is yours. Wish me luck? Shit I wish you luck I know I am quit!
I have no doubt this site works, but if I were a weaker person a trip to get some dip would be happening ASAP. I'm glad this is working for you, and maybe I'll be back and readily admit this is the only way to go. But I think you should be less hostile when dealing with someone attempting to quit. No different than the crap happening in DC right now. Stop being so righteous and just try to help people. I admitted this wasn't for me and wished you the best. Get over yourself.
Weaker person? Dude you're an addict, admit that you can't control it! I'd have to say you're the weak one for using the patch or gum.

Hostile? No, offended that you're still engaging people on site that is proven, yes! We aren't any different than you. 39 days ago I was in your spot, contemplating quitting. So I dove in!

Over myself? I'm the one who has been quit for 39 days, you aren't. So yes, I have the right to say I am stronger than you! PERIOD!

I am not going to debate this with you any longer. I am going to enjoy my daily quit, go talk my new friends and help people who truly want be helped. One day you will figure it out and then you will come back and admit you failed. They see it a lot here.
I am going to sign off as I don't want to be a distraction. But you are an ass. I'm a glad you've quit for 39 days, but guess what I've done that too...cold turkey....and started back. Keep being arrogant and you'll be chain dipping just like the rest of us. Have some humility...realize this is day one of my quit.....say something like, "We are a nicotene free site, so maybe you should come back if the patch doesn't work. but best of luck and congrats on day 1." You're one of those people who talk big online, but probably can't back it up in person....which is why I've never joined a forum before. One day you will not be able to hide behind your "avatar" and will realize that yelling at someone from behind your keyboard is cowardly. You are anything but strong. But I'm glad the keyboard steroids are working for you.
Ok, but you aren't quit so your argument is invalid. I have humility for those who don't insult those who are quitting for real, aka Cold Turkey. Using a patch or gum is like going into an AA meeting with a six pack or those little mini liqueur bottles, telling everyone you're an addict and them sipping on then saying that is the way to recovery. :blink:

I'm proud to be quit and have the tools to continue to be successful. You'll be back and I'll be here waiting...

I am pretty tame compared to others. Really, I am....

Have yourself a great day... I wish you the best of luck.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: Rob1985 on April 02, 2013, 10:04:00 AM
Quote from: KKLJINC
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Rob1985
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Rob1985
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Quote from: Rob1985
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Grizzly25
Quote from: dwbolto
Well...this is day 1. I've tried to quit hundreds of times with no success, but have a different feeling about this one.  I'm on a program with my insurance company which provided the patch and gum at no charge which seems to provide me with more of a mandate to quit.

If I had a gun to my head and was forced to state the thing I am best at...it would have to be dipping.  That's not to say I have no good skills, but I'm really good at dipping.  Work, meetings, reading, movies, driving even church if I wanted.  I can dip and no one knows I'm doing it....but I do. I know that I am setting myself up for cancer. I know that I am overweight b/c dip goes oh so well with sweet tea, coffee and beer.

The toughest part of quitting for me is the cycle of behaviors I have to master to succeed in this quit, both positive and negative. Failure anywhere within this cycle will most likely lead to a stop at the local convenience for a date with the bear.....and it will feel so good that first time.

But, if not now when? So I am choosing now. Any insight or support would be greatly appreciated.  I am on my own on this journey and could use some friends going through the same thing I am about to.
Well post in your group and you will never be alone!

Read the intro section and gain as much knowledge as you can. This site is truly bad ass and only bad ass need apply!

Once you post your promise to not use nicotine in any form....keep it!

I know it doesn't sound like much but its the self drive and site accountability that make this the place to get your quit on!
Thanks brother..It does feel good to have a place to go like this!
remember that this is not only a place to kick smokeless tobacco, but we get to the root of the issue and that's the Nic Bitch. She's well, a bitch. She's ruthless, she wants you for herself.Her and her friend "Nitrosamines" have a big party inside your body until one day you end up with cancer. She has deceived you, stolen money, but the biggest one of them all.. she stole your life and you had the opportunity to quit.

So here we go man... you ready to take your life back?

If so.... go here first the Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13)

Then go to July Pre-HOF class (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8025) and post roll. If you don't know how, private message anyone of the people you see posting roll and they will help you. We are all in this together. No one else's quit is better than another. We are all equally recovering!

Oh, in case you don't know what "Nitrosamines" are Google it, you'll never want to put that shit back in your mouth ever again. A lot of things we consume have them, but processed tobacco has an astronomical amount.
I do appreciate that, but I am using the products for this quit. I know many people that have quit using them as well as those that went cold turkey. I do wish you much success.
well, then don't waste anymore of our time. But when you fail, we'll be there in the back of your head and you will realize the patch, gum, suppository or whatever is a crutch. It's nothing more than a different route of delivery and it will not lead to success. What leads to success to quitting cold turkey and having a real and legit support group. Where else can you find thousand of quitters that will bend over backwards to help you? Nowhere... choice is yours. Wish me luck? Shit I wish you luck I know I am quit!
I have no doubt this site works, but if I were a weaker person a trip to get some dip would be happening ASAP. I'm glad this is working for you, and maybe I'll be back and readily admit this is the only way to go. But I think you should be less hostile when dealing with someone attempting to quit. No different than the crap happening in DC right now. Stop being so righteous and just try to help people. I admitted this wasn't for me and wished you the best. Get over yourself.
Weaker person? Dude you're an addict, admit that you can't control it! I'd have to say you're the weak one for using the patch or gum.

Hostile? No, offended that you're still engaging people on site that is proven, yes! We aren't any different than you. 39 days ago I was in your spot, contemplating quitting. So I dove in!

Over myself? I'm the one who has been quit for 39 days, you aren't. So yes, I have the right to say I am stronger than you! PERIOD!

I am not going to debate this with you any longer. I am going to enjoy my daily quit, go talk my new friends and help people who truly want be helped. One day you will figure it out and then you will come back and admit you failed. They see it a lot here.
I am going to sign off as I don't want to be a distraction. But you are an ass. I'm a glad you've quit for 39 days, but guess what I've done that too...cold turkey....and started back. Keep being arrogant and you'll be chain dipping just like the rest of us. Have some humility...realize this is day one of my quit.....say something like, "We are a nicotene free site, so maybe you should come back if the patch doesn't work. but best of luck and congrats on day 1." You're one of those people who talk big online, but probably can't back it up in person....which is why I've never joined a forum before. One day you will not be able to hide behind your "avatar" and will realize that yelling at someone from behind your keyboard is cowardly. You are anything but strong. But I'm glad the keyboard steroids are working for you.
'bang head' DW, yea we can have some tough love around here, and I am sorry to see you go. You yourself said you have tried to quit 100's of times, how is this time going to be different? Because you have a patch or gum? Nope,your still an addict and have not quit shit. That's all Rob was trying to explain.

Your entire thread already says you are planning your cave. Good luck with everything, but when you want to get serious come on back and jump in, the water is fine and the kool-aide tastes great.
no, I am an asshole. :ph43r:
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: srans on April 02, 2013, 10:04:00 AM
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Rob1985
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Rob1985
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Rob1985
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Grizzly25
Quote from: dwbolto
Well...this is day 1. I've tried to quit hundreds of times with no success, but have a different feeling about this one.  I'm on a program with my insurance company which provided the patch and gum at no charge which seems to provide me with more of a mandate to quit.

If I had a gun to my head and was forced to state the thing I am best at...it would have to be dipping.  That's not to say I have no good skills, but I'm really good at dipping.  Work, meetings, reading, movies, driving even church if I wanted.  I can dip and no one knows I'm doing it....but I do. I know that I am setting myself up for cancer. I know that I am overweight b/c dip goes oh so well with sweet tea, coffee and beer.

The toughest part of quitting for me is the cycle of behaviors I have to master to succeed in this quit, both positive and negative. Failure anywhere within this cycle will most likely lead to a stop at the local convenience for a date with the bear.....and it will feel so good that first time.

But, if not now when? So I am choosing now. Any insight or support would be greatly appreciated.  I am on my own on this journey and could use some friends going through the same thing I am about to.
Well post in your group and you will never be alone!

Read the intro section and gain as much knowledge as you can. This site is truly bad ass and only bad ass need apply!

Once you post your promise to not use nicotine in any form....keep it!

I know it doesn't sound like much but its the self drive and site accountability that make this the place to get your quit on!
Thanks brother..It does feel good to have a place to go like this!
remember that this is not only a place to kick smokeless tobacco, but we get to the root of the issue and that's the Nic Bitch. She's well, a bitch. She's ruthless, she wants you for herself.Her and her friend "Nitrosamines" have a big party inside your body until one day you end up with cancer. She has deceived you, stolen money, but the biggest one of them all.. she stole your life and you had the opportunity to quit.

So here we go man... you ready to take your life back?

If so.... go here first the Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13)

Then go to July Pre-HOF class (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8025) and post roll. If you don't know how, private message anyone of the people you see posting roll and they will help you. We are all in this together. No one else's quit is better than another. We are all equally recovering!

Oh, in case you don't know what "Nitrosamines" are Google it, you'll never want to put that shit back in your mouth ever again. A lot of things we consume have them, but processed tobacco has an astronomical amount.
I do appreciate that, but I am using the products for this quit. I know many people that have quit using them as well as those that went cold turkey. I do wish you much success.
well, then don't waste anymore of our time. But when you fail, we'll be there in the back of your head and you will realize the patch, gum, suppository or whatever is a crutch. It's nothing more than a different route of delivery and it will not lead to success. What leads to success to quitting cold turkey and having a real and legit support group. Where else can you find thousand of quitters that will bend over backwards to help you? Nowhere... choice is yours. Wish me luck? Shit I wish you luck I know I am quit!
I have no doubt this site works, but if I were a weaker person a trip to get some dip would be happening ASAP. I'm glad this is working for you, and maybe I'll be back and readily admit this is the only way to go. But I think you should be less hostile when dealing with someone attempting to quit. No different than the crap happening in DC right now. Stop being so righteous and just try to help people. I admitted this wasn't for me and wished you the best. Get over yourself.
Weaker person? Dude you're an addict, admit that you can't control it! I'd have to say you're the weak one for using the patch or gum.

Hostile? No, offended that you're still engaging people on site that is proven, yes! We aren't any different than you. 39 days ago I was in your spot, contemplating quitting. So I dove in!

Over myself? I'm the one who has been quit for 39 days, you aren't. So yes, I have the right to say I am stronger than you! PERIOD!

I am not going to debate this with you any longer. I am going to enjoy my daily quit, go talk my new friends and help people who truly want be helped. One day you will figure it out and then you will come back and admit you failed. They see it a lot here.
I am going to sign off as I don't want to be a distraction. But you are an ass. I'm a glad you've quit for 39 days, but guess what I've done that too...cold turkey....and started back. Keep being arrogant and you'll be chain dipping just like the rest of us. Have some humility...realize this is day one of my quit.....say something like, "We are a nicotene free site, so maybe you should come back if the patch doesn't work. but best of luck and congrats on day 1." You're one of those people who talk big online, but probably can't back it up in person....which is why I've never joined a forum before. One day you will not be able to hide behind your "avatar" and will realize that yelling at someone from behind your keyboard is cowardly. You are anything but strong. But I'm glad the keyboard steroids are working for you.
You said enough was enough. Then qlf (quit like fuck). Listen to rob and dwbolt, they know how to quit. Nrt (nicotine replacement theory) does not work, its a way the nick bitch keeps her hold on you.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: Rob1985 on April 02, 2013, 10:07:00 AM
Quote from: srans
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Rob1985
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Rob1985
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Rob1985
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Grizzly25
Quote from: dwbolto
Well...this is day 1. I've tried to quit hundreds of times with no success, but have a different feeling about this one.  I'm on a program with my insurance company which provided the patch and gum at no charge which seems to provide me with more of a mandate to quit.

If I had a gun to my head and was forced to state the thing I am best at...it would have to be dipping.  That's not to say I have no good skills, but I'm really good at dipping.  Work, meetings, reading, movies, driving even church if I wanted.  I can dip and no one knows I'm doing it....but I do. I know that I am setting myself up for cancer. I know that I am overweight b/c dip goes oh so well with sweet tea, coffee and beer.

The toughest part of quitting for me is the cycle of behaviors I have to master to succeed in this quit, both positive and negative. Failure anywhere within this cycle will most likely lead to a stop at the local convenience for a date with the bear.....and it will feel so good that first time.

But, if not now when? So I am choosing now. Any insight or support would be greatly appreciated.  I am on my own on this journey and could use some friends going through the same thing I am about to.
Well post in your group and you will never be alone!

Read the intro section and gain as much knowledge as you can. This site is truly bad ass and only bad ass need apply!

Once you post your promise to not use nicotine in any form....keep it!

I know it doesn't sound like much but its the self drive and site accountability that make this the place to get your quit on!
Thanks brother..It does feel good to have a place to go like this!
remember that this is not only a place to kick smokeless tobacco, but we get to the root of the issue and that's the Nic Bitch. She's well, a bitch. She's ruthless, she wants you for herself.Her and her friend "Nitrosamines" have a big party inside your body until one day you end up with cancer. She has deceived you, stolen money, but the biggest one of them all.. she stole your life and you had the opportunity to quit.

So here we go man... you ready to take your life back?

If so.... go here first the Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13)

Then go to July Pre-HOF class (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8025) and post roll. If you don't know how, private message anyone of the people you see posting roll and they will help you. We are all in this together. No one else's quit is better than another. We are all equally recovering!

Oh, in case you don't know what "Nitrosamines" are Google it, you'll never want to put that shit back in your mouth ever again. A lot of things we consume have them, but processed tobacco has an astronomical amount.
I do appreciate that, but I am using the products for this quit. I know many people that have quit using them as well as those that went cold turkey. I do wish you much success.
well, then don't waste anymore of our time. But when you fail, we'll be there in the back of your head and you will realize the patch, gum, suppository or whatever is a crutch. It's nothing more than a different route of delivery and it will not lead to success. What leads to success to quitting cold turkey and having a real and legit support group. Where else can you find thousand of quitters that will bend over backwards to help you? Nowhere... choice is yours. Wish me luck? Shit I wish you luck I know I am quit!
I have no doubt this site works, but if I were a weaker person a trip to get some dip would be happening ASAP. I'm glad this is working for you, and maybe I'll be back and readily admit this is the only way to go. But I think you should be less hostile when dealing with someone attempting to quit. No different than the crap happening in DC right now. Stop being so righteous and just try to help people. I admitted this wasn't for me and wished you the best. Get over yourself.
Weaker person? Dude you're an addict, admit that you can't control it! I'd have to say you're the weak one for using the patch or gum.

Hostile? No, offended that you're still engaging people on site that is proven, yes! We aren't any different than you. 39 days ago I was in your spot, contemplating quitting. So I dove in!

Over myself? I'm the one who has been quit for 39 days, you aren't. So yes, I have the right to say I am stronger than you! PERIOD!

I am not going to debate this with you any longer. I am going to enjoy my daily quit, go talk my new friends and help people who truly want be helped. One day you will figure it out and then you will come back and admit you failed. They see it a lot here.
I am going to sign off as I don't want to be a distraction. But you are an ass. I'm a glad you've quit for 39 days, but guess what I've done that too...cold turkey....and started back. Keep being arrogant and you'll be chain dipping just like the rest of us. Have some humility...realize this is day one of my quit.....say something like, "We are a nicotene free site, so maybe you should come back if the patch doesn't work. but best of luck and congrats on day 1." You're one of those people who talk big online, but probably can't back it up in person....which is why I've never joined a forum before. One day you will not be able to hide behind your "avatar" and will realize that yelling at someone from behind your keyboard is cowardly. You are anything but strong. But I'm glad the keyboard steroids are working for you.
You said enough was enough. Then qlf (quit like fuck). Listen to rob and dwbolt, they know how to quit. Nrt (nicotine replacement theory) does not work, its a way the nick bitch keeps her hold on you.
I am curious to know why he joined in 2007, but then came back 6 years later?
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: Evil_Won on April 02, 2013, 10:41:00 AM
Quote from: Rob1985
Quote from: srans
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Rob1985
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Rob1985
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Rob1985
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Grizzly25
Quote from: dwbolto
Well...this is day 1. I've tried to quit hundreds of times with no success, but have a different feeling about this one.  I'm on a program with my insurance company which provided the patch and gum at no charge which seems to provide me with more of a mandate to quit.

If I had a gun to my head and was forced to state the thing I am best at...it would have to be dipping.  That's not to say I have no good skills, but I'm really good at dipping.  Work, meetings, reading, movies, driving even church if I wanted.  I can dip and no one knows I'm doing it....but I do. I know that I am setting myself up for cancer. I know that I am overweight b/c dip goes oh so well with sweet tea, coffee and beer.

The toughest part of quitting for me is the cycle of behaviors I have to master to succeed in this quit, both positive and negative. Failure anywhere within this cycle will most likely lead to a stop at the local convenience for a date with the bear.....and it will feel so good that first time.

But, if not now when? So I am choosing now. Any insight or support would be greatly appreciated.  I am on my own on this journey and could use some friends going through the same thing I am about to.
Well post in your group and you will never be alone!

Read the intro section and gain as much knowledge as you can. This site is truly bad ass and only bad ass need apply!

Once you post your promise to not use nicotine in any form....keep it!

I know it doesn't sound like much but its the self drive and site accountability that make this the place to get your quit on!
Thanks brother..It does feel good to have a place to go like this!
remember that this is not only a place to kick smokeless tobacco, but we get to the root of the issue and that's the Nic Bitch. She's well, a bitch. She's ruthless, she wants you for herself.Her and her friend "Nitrosamines" have a big party inside your body until one day you end up with cancer. She has deceived you, stolen money, but the biggest one of them all.. she stole your life and you had the opportunity to quit.

So here we go man... you ready to take your life back?

If so.... go here first the Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13)

Then go to July Pre-HOF class (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8025) and post roll. If you don't know how, private message anyone of the people you see posting roll and they will help you. We are all in this together. No one else's quit is better than another. We are all equally recovering!

Oh, in case you don't know what "Nitrosamines" are Google it, you'll never want to put that shit back in your mouth ever again. A lot of things we consume have them, but processed tobacco has an astronomical amount.
I do appreciate that, but I am using the products for this quit. I know many people that have quit using them as well as those that went cold turkey. I do wish you much success.
well, then don't waste anymore of our time. But when you fail, we'll be there in the back of your head and you will realize the patch, gum, suppository or whatever is a crutch. It's nothing more than a different route of delivery and it will not lead to success. What leads to success to quitting cold turkey and having a real and legit support group. Where else can you find thousand of quitters that will bend over backwards to help you? Nowhere... choice is yours. Wish me luck? Shit I wish you luck I know I am quit!
I have no doubt this site works, but if I were a weaker person a trip to get some dip would be happening ASAP. I'm glad this is working for you, and maybe I'll be back and readily admit this is the only way to go. But I think you should be less hostile when dealing with someone attempting to quit. No different than the crap happening in DC right now. Stop being so righteous and just try to help people. I admitted this wasn't for me and wished you the best. Get over yourself.
Weaker person? Dude you're an addict, admit that you can't control it! I'd have to say you're the weak one for using the patch or gum.

Hostile? No, offended that you're still engaging people on site that is proven, yes! We aren't any different than you. 39 days ago I was in your spot, contemplating quitting. So I dove in!

Over myself? I'm the one who has been quit for 39 days, you aren't. So yes, I have the right to say I am stronger than you! PERIOD!

I am not going to debate this with you any longer. I am going to enjoy my daily quit, go talk my new friends and help people who truly want be helped. One day you will figure it out and then you will come back and admit you failed. They see it a lot here.
I am going to sign off as I don't want to be a distraction. But you are an ass. I'm a glad you've quit for 39 days, but guess what I've done that too...cold turkey....and started back. Keep being arrogant and you'll be chain dipping just like the rest of us. Have some humility...realize this is day one of my quit.....say something like, "We are a nicotene free site, so maybe you should come back if the patch doesn't work. but best of luck and congrats on day 1." You're one of those people who talk big online, but probably can't back it up in person....which is why I've never joined a forum before. One day you will not be able to hide behind your "avatar" and will realize that yelling at someone from behind your keyboard is cowardly. You are anything but strong. But I'm glad the keyboard steroids are working for you.
You said enough was enough. Then qlf (quit like fuck). Listen to rob and dwbolt, they know how to quit. Nrt (nicotine replacement theory) does not work, its a way the nick bitch keeps her hold on you.
I am curious to know why he joined in 2007, but then came back 6 years later?
Good job Rob.

Why did he join in 2007 and never quit? You nailed it, he's scared and weak. My math isn't the best, but if he joined in 2007 and posted this swill in 2013, that means he continued to use for 6 more years. He says he is leaving as to not be a distraction. He isn't a distraction, he is strengthening our Quits be reinforcing the importance of staying nic-free (not switching the delivery apparatus) and doing so by posting roll every day; making that pledge to ourselves and other ACTIVE members, and keeping our word for 24 hours.

History says he'll continue to use and will be back in another 6 years, 2019, unless cancer has killed him by then. Who knows. Maybe he'll realize you were being caring and honest, and not just a self-rightous dick. Maybe he will find his balls and come back sooner to do it the KTC way - cold turkey. It would be nice to have another quitter on our side of this war.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: kkljinc on April 02, 2013, 10:45:00 AM
Quote from: Evil_Won
Quote from: Rob1985
Quote from: srans
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Rob1985
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Rob1985
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Rob1985
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Grizzly25
Quote from: dwbolto
Well...this is day 1. I've tried to quit hundreds of times with no success, but have a different feeling about this one.  I'm on a program with my insurance company which provided the patch and gum at no charge which seems to provide me with more of a mandate to quit.

If I had a gun to my head and was forced to state the thing I am best at...it would have to be dipping.  That's not to say I have no good skills, but I'm really good at dipping.  Work, meetings, reading, movies, driving even church if I wanted.  I can dip and no one knows I'm doing it....but I do. I know that I am setting myself up for cancer. I know that I am overweight b/c dip goes oh so well with sweet tea, coffee and beer.

The toughest part of quitting for me is the cycle of behaviors I have to master to succeed in this quit, both positive and negative. Failure anywhere within this cycle will most likely lead to a stop at the local convenience for a date with the bear.....and it will feel so good that first time.

But, if not now when? So I am choosing now. Any insight or support would be greatly appreciated.  I am on my own on this journey and could use some friends going through the same thing I am about to.
Well post in your group and you will never be alone!

Read the intro section and gain as much knowledge as you can. This site is truly bad ass and only bad ass need apply!

Once you post your promise to not use nicotine in any form....keep it!

I know it doesn't sound like much but its the self drive and site accountability that make this the place to get your quit on!
Thanks brother..It does feel good to have a place to go like this!
remember that this is not only a place to kick smokeless tobacco, but we get to the root of the issue and that's the Nic Bitch. She's well, a bitch. She's ruthless, she wants you for herself.Her and her friend "Nitrosamines" have a big party inside your body until one day you end up with cancer. She has deceived you, stolen money, but the biggest one of them all.. she stole your life and you had the opportunity to quit.

So here we go man... you ready to take your life back?

If so.... go here first the Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13)

Then go to July Pre-HOF class (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8025) and post roll. If you don't know how, private message anyone of the people you see posting roll and they will help you. We are all in this together. No one else's quit is better than another. We are all equally recovering!

Oh, in case you don't know what "Nitrosamines" are Google it, you'll never want to put that shit back in your mouth ever again. A lot of things we consume have them, but processed tobacco has an astronomical amount.
I do appreciate that, but I am using the products for this quit. I know many people that have quit using them as well as those that went cold turkey. I do wish you much success.
well, then don't waste anymore of our time. But when you fail, we'll be there in the back of your head and you will realize the patch, gum, suppository or whatever is a crutch. It's nothing more than a different route of delivery and it will not lead to success. What leads to success to quitting cold turkey and having a real and legit support group. Where else can you find thousand of quitters that will bend over backwards to help you? Nowhere... choice is yours. Wish me luck? Shit I wish you luck I know I am quit!
I have no doubt this site works, but if I were a weaker person a trip to get some dip would be happening ASAP. I'm glad this is working for you, and maybe I'll be back and readily admit this is the only way to go. But I think you should be less hostile when dealing with someone attempting to quit. No different than the crap happening in DC right now. Stop being so righteous and just try to help people. I admitted this wasn't for me and wished you the best. Get over yourself.
Weaker person? Dude you're an addict, admit that you can't control it! I'd have to say you're the weak one for using the patch or gum.

Hostile? No, offended that you're still engaging people on site that is proven, yes! We aren't any different than you. 39 days ago I was in your spot, contemplating quitting. So I dove in!

Over myself? I'm the one who has been quit for 39 days, you aren't. So yes, I have the right to say I am stronger than you! PERIOD!

I am not going to debate this with you any longer. I am going to enjoy my daily quit, go talk my new friends and help people who truly want be helped. One day you will figure it out and then you will come back and admit you failed. They see it a lot here.
I am going to sign off as I don't want to be a distraction. But you are an ass. I'm a glad you've quit for 39 days, but guess what I've done that too...cold turkey....and started back. Keep being arrogant and you'll be chain dipping just like the rest of us. Have some humility...realize this is day one of my quit.....say something like, "We are a nicotene free site, so maybe you should come back if the patch doesn't work. but best of luck and congrats on day 1." You're one of those people who talk big online, but probably can't back it up in person....which is why I've never joined a forum before. One day you will not be able to hide behind your "avatar" and will realize that yelling at someone from behind your keyboard is cowardly. You are anything but strong. But I'm glad the keyboard steroids are working for you.
You said enough was enough. Then qlf (quit like fuck). Listen to rob and dwbolt, they know how to quit. Nrt (nicotine replacement theory) does not work, its a way the nick bitch keeps her hold on you.
I am curious to know why he joined in 2007, but then came back 6 years later?
Good job Rob.

Why did he join in 2007 and never quit? You nailed it, he's scared and weak. My math isn't the best, but if he joined in 2007 and posted this swill in 2013, that means he continued to use for 6 more years. He says he is leaving as to not be a distraction. He isn't a distraction, he is strengthening our Quits be reinforcing the importance of staying nic-free (not switching the delivery apparatus) and doing so by posting roll every day; making that pledge to ourselves and other ACTIVE members, and keeping our word for 24 hours.

History says he'll continue to use and will be back in another 6 years, 2019, unless cancer has killed him by then. Who knows. Maybe he'll realize you were being caring and honest, and not just a self-rightous dick. Maybe he will find his balls and come back sooner to do it the KTC way - cold turkey. It would be nice to have another quitter on our side of this war.
I quit with everyone today!!! OH yea, and we are all ASSHOLES! But were QLF ASSHOLES!
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: jbradley on April 02, 2013, 11:33:00 AM
Quote from: KKLJINC
Quote from: Evil_Won
Quote from: Rob1985
Quote from: srans
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Rob1985
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Rob1985
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Rob1985
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Grizzly25
Quote from: dwbolto
Well...this is day 1. I've tried to quit hundreds of times with no success, but have a different feeling about this one.  I'm on a program with my insurance company which provided the patch and gum at no charge which seems to provide me with more of a mandate to quit.

If I had a gun to my head and was forced to state the thing I am best at...it would have to be dipping.  That's not to say I have no good skills, but I'm really good at dipping.  Work, meetings, reading, movies, driving even church if I wanted.  I can dip and no one knows I'm doing it....but I do. I know that I am setting myself up for cancer. I know that I am overweight b/c dip goes oh so well with sweet tea, coffee and beer.

The toughest part of quitting for me is the cycle of behaviors I have to master to succeed in this quit, both positive and negative. Failure anywhere within this cycle will most likely lead to a stop at the local convenience for a date with the bear.....and it will feel so good that first time.

But, if not now when? So I am choosing now. Any insight or support would be greatly appreciated.  I am on my own on this journey and could use some friends going through the same thing I am about to.
Well post in your group and you will never be alone!

Read the intro section and gain as much knowledge as you can. This site is truly bad ass and only bad ass need apply!

Once you post your promise to not use nicotine in any form....keep it!

I know it doesn't sound like much but its the self drive and site accountability that make this the place to get your quit on!
Thanks brother..It does feel good to have a place to go like this!
remember that this is not only a place to kick smokeless tobacco, but we get to the root of the issue and that's the Nic Bitch. She's well, a bitch. She's ruthless, she wants you for herself.Her and her friend "Nitrosamines" have a big party inside your body until one day you end up with cancer. She has deceived you, stolen money, but the biggest one of them all.. she stole your life and you had the opportunity to quit.

So here we go man... you ready to take your life back?

If so.... go here first the Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13)

Then go to July Pre-HOF class (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8025) and post roll. If you don't know how, private message anyone of the people you see posting roll and they will help you. We are all in this together. No one else's quit is better than another. We are all equally recovering!

Oh, in case you don't know what "Nitrosamines" are Google it, you'll never want to put that shit back in your mouth ever again. A lot of things we consume have them, but processed tobacco has an astronomical amount.
I do appreciate that, but I am using the products for this quit. I know many people that have quit using them as well as those that went cold turkey. I do wish you much success.
well, then don't waste anymore of our time. But when you fail, we'll be there in the back of your head and you will realize the patch, gum, suppository or whatever is a crutch. It's nothing more than a different route of delivery and it will not lead to success. What leads to success to quitting cold turkey and having a real and legit support group. Where else can you find thousand of quitters that will bend over backwards to help you? Nowhere... choice is yours. Wish me luck? Shit I wish you luck I know I am quit!
I have no doubt this site works, but if I were a weaker person a trip to get some dip would be happening ASAP. I'm glad this is working for you, and maybe I'll be back and readily admit this is the only way to go. But I think you should be less hostile when dealing with someone attempting to quit. No different than the crap happening in DC right now. Stop being so righteous and just try to help people. I admitted this wasn't for me and wished you the best. Get over yourself.
Weaker person? Dude you're an addict, admit that you can't control it! I'd have to say you're the weak one for using the patch or gum.

Hostile? No, offended that you're still engaging people on site that is proven, yes! We aren't any different than you. 39 days ago I was in your spot, contemplating quitting. So I dove in!

Over myself? I'm the one who has been quit for 39 days, you aren't. So yes, I have the right to say I am stronger than you! PERIOD!

I am not going to debate this with you any longer. I am going to enjoy my daily quit, go talk my new friends and help people who truly want be helped. One day you will figure it out and then you will come back and admit you failed. They see it a lot here.
I am going to sign off as I don't want to be a distraction. But you are an ass. I'm a glad you've quit for 39 days, but guess what I've done that too...cold turkey....and started back. Keep being arrogant and you'll be chain dipping just like the rest of us. Have some humility...realize this is day one of my quit.....say something like, "We are a nicotene free site, so maybe you should come back if the patch doesn't work. but best of luck and congrats on day 1." You're one of those people who talk big online, but probably can't back it up in person....which is why I've never joined a forum before. One day you will not be able to hide behind your "avatar" and will realize that yelling at someone from behind your keyboard is cowardly. You are anything but strong. But I'm glad the keyboard steroids are working for you.
You said enough was enough. Then qlf (quit like fuck). Listen to rob and dwbolt, they know how to quit. Nrt (nicotine replacement theory) does not work, its a way the nick bitch keeps her hold on you.
I am curious to know why he joined in 2007, but then came back 6 years later?
Good job Rob.

Why did he join in 2007 and never quit? You nailed it, he's scared and weak. My math isn't the best, but if he joined in 2007 and posted this swill in 2013, that means he continued to use for 6 more years. He says he is leaving as to not be a distraction. He isn't a distraction, he is strengthening our Quits be reinforcing the importance of staying nic-free (not switching the delivery apparatus) and doing so by posting roll every day; making that pledge to ourselves and other ACTIVE members, and keeping our word for 24 hours.

History says he'll continue to use and will be back in another 6 years, 2019, unless cancer has killed him by then. Who knows. Maybe he'll realize you were being caring and honest, and not just a self-rightous dick. Maybe he will find his balls and come back sooner to do it the KTC way - cold turkey. It would be nice to have another quitter on our side of this war.
I quit with everyone today!!! OH yea, and we are all ASSHOLES! But were QLF ASSHOLES!
Just another special butterfly, that has it so much harder than everyone else. You no what man, we are all addicts on this site. We know how to quit, it is proven in our stats. Why don't you go look up what the statistics are of people getting hooked on the patch? Nicotine is a bitch, she doesn't care who the fuck you are. She just wants you to continue using. So you keep patching it up while she is banging you in the ass, and I will still be here Quit Like Fuck for today with my brothers.


'troll'
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: Rob1985 on April 02, 2013, 12:19:00 PM
Quote from: jbradley
Quote from: KKLJINC
Quote from: Evil_Won
Quote from: Rob1985
Quote from: srans
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Rob1985
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Rob1985
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Rob1985
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: Grizzly25
Quote from: dwbolto
Well...this is day 1. I've tried to quit hundreds of times with no success, but have a different feeling about this one.  I'm on a program with my insurance company which provided the patch and gum at no charge which seems to provide me with more of a mandate to quit.

If I had a gun to my head and was forced to state the thing I am best at...it would have to be dipping.  That's not to say I have no good skills, but I'm really good at dipping.  Work, meetings, reading, movies, driving even church if I wanted.  I can dip and no one knows I'm doing it....but I do. I know that I am setting myself up for cancer. I know that I am overweight b/c dip goes oh so well with sweet tea, coffee and beer.

The toughest part of quitting for me is the cycle of behaviors I have to master to succeed in this quit, both positive and negative. Failure anywhere within this cycle will most likely lead to a stop at the local convenience for a date with the bear.....and it will feel so good that first time.

But, if not now when? So I am choosing now. Any insight or support would be greatly appreciated.  I am on my own on this journey and could use some friends going through the same thing I am about to.
Well post in your group and you will never be alone!

Read the intro section and gain as much knowledge as you can. This site is truly bad ass and only bad ass need apply!

Once you post your promise to not use nicotine in any form....keep it!

I know it doesn't sound like much but its the self drive and site accountability that make this the place to get your quit on!
Thanks brother..It does feel good to have a place to go like this!
remember that this is not only a place to kick smokeless tobacco, but we get to the root of the issue and that's the Nic Bitch. She's well, a bitch. She's ruthless, she wants you for herself.Her and her friend "Nitrosamines" have a big party inside your body until one day you end up with cancer. She has deceived you, stolen money, but the biggest one of them all.. she stole your life and you had the opportunity to quit.

So here we go man... you ready to take your life back?

If so.... go here first the Welcome Center (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showforum=13)

Then go to July Pre-HOF class (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=8025) and post roll. If you don't know how, private message anyone of the people you see posting roll and they will help you. We are all in this together. No one else's quit is better than another. We are all equally recovering!

Oh, in case you don't know what "Nitrosamines" are Google it, you'll never want to put that shit back in your mouth ever again. A lot of things we consume have them, but processed tobacco has an astronomical amount.
I do appreciate that, but I am using the products for this quit. I know many people that have quit using them as well as those that went cold turkey. I do wish you much success.
well, then don't waste anymore of our time. But when you fail, we'll be there in the back of your head and you will realize the patch, gum, suppository or whatever is a crutch. It's nothing more than a different route of delivery and it will not lead to success. What leads to success to quitting cold turkey and having a real and legit support group. Where else can you find thousand of quitters that will bend over backwards to help you? Nowhere... choice is yours. Wish me luck? Shit I wish you luck I know I am quit!
I have no doubt this site works, but if I were a weaker person a trip to get some dip would be happening ASAP. I'm glad this is working for you, and maybe I'll be back and readily admit this is the only way to go. But I think you should be less hostile when dealing with someone attempting to quit. No different than the crap happening in DC right now. Stop being so righteous and just try to help people. I admitted this wasn't for me and wished you the best. Get over yourself.
Weaker person? Dude you're an addict, admit that you can't control it! I'd have to say you're the weak one for using the patch or gum.

Hostile? No, offended that you're still engaging people on site that is proven, yes! We aren't any different than you. 39 days ago I was in your spot, contemplating quitting. So I dove in!

Over myself? I'm the one who has been quit for 39 days, you aren't. So yes, I have the right to say I am stronger than you! PERIOD!

I am not going to debate this with you any longer. I am going to enjoy my daily quit, go talk my new friends and help people who truly want be helped. One day you will figure it out and then you will come back and admit you failed. They see it a lot here.
I am going to sign off as I don't want to be a distraction. But you are an ass. I'm a glad you've quit for 39 days, but guess what I've done that too...cold turkey....and started back. Keep being arrogant and you'll be chain dipping just like the rest of us. Have some humility...realize this is day one of my quit.....say something like, "We are a nicotene free site, so maybe you should come back if the patch doesn't work. but best of luck and congrats on day 1." You're one of those people who talk big online, but probably can't back it up in person....which is why I've never joined a forum before. One day you will not be able to hide behind your "avatar" and will realize that yelling at someone from behind your keyboard is cowardly. You are anything but strong. But I'm glad the keyboard steroids are working for you.
You said enough was enough. Then qlf (quit like fuck). Listen to rob and dwbolt, they know how to quit. Nrt (nicotine replacement theory) does not work, its a way the nick bitch keeps her hold on you.
I am curious to know why he joined in 2007, but then came back 6 years later?
Good job Rob.

Why did he join in 2007 and never quit? You nailed it, he's scared and weak. My math isn't the best, but if he joined in 2007 and posted this swill in 2013, that means he continued to use for 6 more years. He says he is leaving as to not be a distraction. He isn't a distraction, he is strengthening our Quits be reinforcing the importance of staying nic-free (not switching the delivery apparatus) and doing so by posting roll every day; making that pledge to ourselves and other ACTIVE members, and keeping our word for 24 hours.

History says he'll continue to use and will be back in another 6 years, 2019, unless cancer has killed him by then. Who knows. Maybe he'll realize you were being caring and honest, and not just a self-rightous dick. Maybe he will find his balls and come back sooner to do it the KTC way - cold turkey. It would be nice to have another quitter on our side of this war.
I quit with everyone today!!! OH yea, and we are all ASSHOLES! But were QLF ASSHOLES!
Just another special butterfly, that has it so much harder than everyone else. You no what man, we are all addicts on this site. We know how to quit, it is proven in our stats. Why don't you go look up what the statistics are of people getting hooked on the patch? Nicotine is a bitch, she doesn't care who the fuck you are. She just wants you to continue using. So you keep patching it up while she is banging you in the ass, and I will still be here Quit Like Fuck for today with my brothers.


'troll'
He thinks he knows how to quit, but he doesn't. It's simple, own your quit, post roll, talk with quit buddies, rimse, repeat every day. I have read enough success stories to know that it works and only works when you make your life about quitting and making a daily promise to post roll, even through a simple text.

He talks like he knows how to quit. He talks like he has a clue what is in store for him. Pride issue here.

It's people like this that make my quit stronger! QLF all day long!
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: dwbolto on April 02, 2013, 02:51:00 PM
Ok...I see there's been some bashing at my expense and that's fine. We're all men on this board.

First, I would like to publicly apologize to Rob. I definitely was not enjoying someone hitting me on the first day of my quit, but mentioning him failing in his quit is no better....and I do not want to thwart what is a great accomplishment on a nightmare task.

I have been dip free while using products today, and have stayed clear of my staff so I don't rip anyone's head off, so I am hesitant to change from something that helped me quit even just today. That said, Evil One has contacted me several times and the fact he would take the time out of his day to convince me this is the way to go holds a lot of weight. Plus, how do you say no to someone that chose that name?

Being a part of a community where guys will rip you might be just what I need. I still have the patch on but am going to give this some serious thought tonight.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: kkljinc on April 02, 2013, 03:08:00 PM
Quote from: dwbolto
Ok...I see there's been some bashing at my expense and that's fine. We're all men on this board.

First, I would like to publicly apologize to Rob. I definitely was not enjoying someone hitting me on the first day of my quit, but mentioning him failing in his quit is no better....and I do not want to thwart what is a great accomplishment on a nightmare task.

I have been dip free while using products today, and have stayed clear of my staff so I don't rip anyone's head off, so I am hesitant to change from something that helped me quit even just today. That said, Evil One has contacted me several times and the fact he would take the time out of his day to convince me this is the way to go holds a lot of weight. Plus, how do you say no to someone that chose that name?

Being a part of a community where guys will rip you might be just what I need. I still have the patch on but am going to give this some serious thought tonight.
DW, you have thousands of people here how just got a grip and went cold turkey. I don't know about you but I don't know of anyone who has ever had luck with the patch. All your doing is tossing good money at a continued addiction. Go read the HOF speech for Evil-Won, you will understand why he has that name.

Look were all assholes here, but were quit assholes. We are no longer slaves to nicotine, in any form. Were hard cause we care, if you go cold turkey you got a few thousand of us on your side. If you choose to stay with the patch, you got nothing until you quit it all together. RIP that shit off and post up, and see how it feels.

I will quit with you when you quit.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: T-Cell on April 02, 2013, 03:56:00 PM
Quote from: KKLJINC
Quote from: dwbolto
Ok...I see there's been some bashing at my expense and that's fine.  We're all men on this board.

First, I would like to publicly apologize to Rob.  I definitely was not enjoying someone hitting me on the first day of my quit, but mentioning him failing in his quit is no better....and I do not want to thwart what is a great accomplishment on a nightmare task.

I have been dip free while using products today, and have stayed clear of my staff so I don't rip anyone's head off, so I am hesitant to change from something that helped me quit even just today.  That said, Evil One has contacted me several times and the fact he would take the time out of his day to convince me this is the way to go holds a lot of weight. Plus, how do you say no to someone that chose that name?

Being a part of a community where guys will rip you might be just what I need. I still have the patch on but am going to give this some serious thought tonight.
DW, you have thousands of people here how just got a grip and went cold turkey. I don't know about you but I don't know of anyone who has ever had luck with the patch. All your doing is tossing good money at a continued addiction. Go read the HOF speech for Evil-Won, you will understand why he has that name.

Look were all assholes here, but were quit assholes. We are no longer slaves to nicotine, in any form. Were hard cause we care, if you go cold turkey you got a few thousand of us on your side. If you choose to stay with the patch, you got nothing until you quit it all together. RIP that shit off and post up, and see how it feels.

I will quit with you when you quit.
DW, please do listen carefully to Evil. If it makes sense to you, quit all forms of nicotine and join us in our cold turkey approach. Statistically about 17% of new quitters here make it to 100 days quit vs about 2% if you go it alone. I don't know what the stats are for using NRTs...
Yes, there are a lot of raging assholes on this site, many of us have been addicts our entire adult lives and are still figuring out how to live without the lip turds. However we are extremely quit assholes and are proud of that. There is a ton of peer support here for quitters that want to go this way...
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: Coach Steve on April 02, 2013, 03:57:00 PM
Quote from: T-Cell
Quote from: KKLJINC
Quote from: dwbolto
Ok...I see there's been some bashing at my expense and that's fine.  We're all men on this board.

First, I would like to publicly apologize to Rob.  I definitely was not enjoying someone hitting me on the first day of my quit, but mentioning him failing in his quit is no better....and I do not want to thwart what is a great accomplishment on a nightmare task.

I have been dip free while using products today, and have stayed clear of my staff so I don't rip anyone's head off, so I am hesitant to change from something that helped me quit even just today.  That said, Evil One has contacted me several times and the fact he would take the time out of his day to convince me this is the way to go holds a lot of weight. Plus, how do you say no to someone that chose that name?

Being a part of a community where guys will rip you might be just what I need. I still have the patch on but am going to give this some serious thought tonight.
DW, you have thousands of people here how just got a grip and went cold turkey. I don't know about you but I don't know of anyone who has ever had luck with the patch. All your doing is tossing good money at a continued addiction. Go read the HOF speech for Evil-Won, you will understand why he has that name.

Look were all assholes here, but were quit assholes. We are no longer slaves to nicotine, in any form. Were hard cause we care, if you go cold turkey you got a few thousand of us on your side. If you choose to stay with the patch, you got nothing until you quit it all together. RIP that shit off and post up, and see how it feels.

I will quit with you when you quit.
DW, please do listen carefully to Evil. If it makes sense to you, quit all forms of nicotine and join us in our cold turkey approach. Statistically about 17% of new quitters here make it to 100 days quit vs about 2% if you go it alone. I don't know what the stats are for using NRTs...
Yes, there are a lot of raging assholes on this site, many of us have been addicts our entire adult lives and are still figuring out how to live without the lip turds. However we are extremely quit assholes and are proud of that. There is a ton of peer support here for quitters that want to go this way...
You won't be giving anything "serious thought" until you stop delivering nicotine into your system. That shit is controlling your brain. The Nic Bitch wants you to think we're a bunch of keyboard cowboys with nothing better to do with our lives. Well.....some of us are big time losers but that's beside the point.

Stop being a slave to nicotine, you'll never get away from it as long as it's in your system....I can guarantee you that.

WE Quit Like Fuck. Not You, Not I, WE. Drop the nicotine insurance plan, and post your Day 1 in July 2013. Those insurance fuckers only care about your premiums anyways.......

p.s. You sure are attracting a lot of attention for someone still using nicotine. That should answer any questions you might have about how much we care.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: dwbolto on April 03, 2013, 10:23:00 AM
My introduction to KTC looked something like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEjj1GhS2m8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEjj1GhS2m8)

Only instead of “God save King George” I yelled, “I am quitting by using the patch and gum!”

Now I wouldn't say I had knives thrown at me, but I did know I was not in a place friendly to this methodÂ…which was fine. Sometimes the means by which you do something is just as important as the task to be accomplished, particularly within a community doing it together.

I’m not a violent man, but I am very quick to stand up for myself as you saw. But the community rallied to their own and “attacked”. The odd part is I started to enjoy KTC more as I become the subject of ridicule. This was clearly a group of men that looked to achieve a common task through a common method and there was going to be no bullshit. I really liked the no bullshit part the most. The, “There might be a place for you to go, but this is how we do it here. If you don’t like it, get lost.” This was a team and no one was going to crack the armor. The politically correct world does not live here and if someone threatens to drag it in it’s general quarters.

During this, Evil Won began to email me about the validity of the site. Without actually saying it he let me know that, though there is a time for the group to rally, there is also a time for man to man straight talk. Still no bullshit, but straight and personal.

Later yesterday I found myself in the convenience store to pick up a tin of the bear. I had been using nicotine replacement products all day, had no real urge to satisfy a need for nicotine, but was still about to dip. It was clear that my usage is not just about getting the Nic Bitch in me. It is systemic and a part of my daily routine.

So here I am, accepting that I am about to go through detox just like any other addict. Accepting that, though I may be in control of most aspects of my life, this bitch is not letting go without a fight.

But the difference this time is there is an army behind me. There are a group of men I can talk to like men. I now have brothers-in-arms for the battle.

I now ask you to turn that energy I saw yesterday into an ally.

I say to each of youÂ…Â…
To hell with King George!
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: kkljinc on April 03, 2013, 10:28:00 AM
Quote from: dwbolto
My introduction to KTC looked something like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEjj1GhS2m8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEjj1GhS2m8)

Only instead of “God save King George” I yelled, “I am quitting by using the patch and gum!”

Now I wouldn't say I had knives thrown at me, but I did know I was not in a place friendly to this methodÂ…which was fine. Sometimes the means by which you do something is just as important as the task to be accomplished, particularly within a community doing it together.

I’m not a violent man, but I am very quick to stand up for myself as you saw. But the community rallied to their own and “attacked”. The odd part is I started to enjoy KTC more as I become the subject of ridicule. This was clearly a group of men that looked to achieve a common task through a common method and there was going to be no bullshit. I really liked the no bullshit part the most. The, “There might be a place for you to go, but this is how we do it here. If you don’t like it, get lost.” This was a team and no one was going to crack the armor. The politically correct world does not live here and if someone threatens to drag it in it’s general quarters.

During this, Evil Won began to email me about the validity of the site. Without actually saying it he let me know that, though there is a time for the group to rally, there is also a time for man to man straight talk. Still no bullshit, but straight and personal.

Later yesterday I found myself in the convenience store to pick up a tin of the bear. I had been using nicotine replacement products all day, had no real urge to satisfy a need for nicotine, but was still about to dip. It was clear that my usage is not just about getting the Nic Bitch in me. It is systemic and a part of my daily routine.

So here I am, accepting that I am about to go through detox just like any other addict. Accepting that, though I may be in control of most aspects of my life, this bitch is not letting go without a fight.

But the difference this time is there is an army behind me. There are a group of men I can talk to like men. I now have brothers-in-arms for the battle.

I have dipped already today, so I imagine I should do roll call tomorrowÂ…Â….

But to each of you I now ask you to turn that energy I saw yesterday into an ally.

I say to each of youÂ…Â…
To hell with King George!
DW, interesting post, throw away the can, or the patches or the gum, or the cream, or whatever. Flush it burn it however you need to get rid of it to disconnect from your life, then go post roll Today! You can promise that you will not have any more in any form for the rest of the day. If you dont you will find yourself medicating all day and starting again tomorrow. Trash it post roll rinse and repeat tomorrow. Now go be quit.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: dwbolto on April 03, 2013, 10:31:00 AM
Quote from: KKLJINC
Quote from: dwbolto
My introduction to KTC looked something like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEjj1GhS2m8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEjj1GhS2m8)

Only instead of “God save King George” I yelled, “I am quitting by using the patch and gum!”

Now I wouldn't say I had knives thrown at me, but I did know I was not in a place friendly to this method…which was fine.  Sometimes the means by which you do something is just as important as the task to be accomplished, particularly within a community doing it together.

I’m not a violent man, but I am very quick to stand up for myself as you saw. But the community rallied to their own and “attacked”.  The odd part is I started to enjoy KTC more as I become the subject of ridicule.  This was clearly a group of men that looked to achieve a common task through a common method and there was going to be no bullshit.  I really liked the no bullshit part the most. The, “There might be a place for you to go, but this is how we do it here.  If you don’t like it, get lost.” This was a team and no one was going to crack the armor. The politically correct world does not live here and if someone threatens to drag it in it’s general quarters. 

During this, Evil Won began to email me about the validity of the site. Without actually saying it he let me know that, though there is a time for the group to rally, there is also a time for man to man straight talk.  Still no bullshit, but straight and personal.

Later yesterday I found myself in the convenience store to pick up a tin of the bear. I had been using nicotine replacement products all day, had no real urge to satisfy a need for nicotine, but was still about to dip.  It was clear that my usage is not just about getting the Nic Bitch in me.  It is systemic and a part of my daily routine.

So here I am, accepting that I am about to go through detox just like any other addict. Accepting that, though I may be in control of most aspects of my life, this bitch is not letting go without a fight.

But the difference this time is there is an army behind me. There are a group of men I can talk to like men. I now have brothers-in-arms for the battle.

I have dipped already today, so I imagine I should do roll call tomorrowÂ…Â….

But to each of you I now ask you to turn that energy I saw yesterday into an ally.

I say to each of youÂ…Â…
To hell with King George!
DW, interesting post, throw away the can, or the patches or the gum, or the cream, or whatever. Flush it burn it however you need to get rid of it to disconnect from your life, then go post roll Today! You can promise that you will not have any more in any form for the rest of the day. If you dont you will find yourself medicating all day and starting again tomorrow. Trash it post roll rinse and repeat tomorrow. Now go be quit.
I actually deleted that line about dipping today. figured it was fine to post roll half way through. Going to do it as soon as I'm in front of an actual computer to figure it out.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: kkljinc on April 03, 2013, 10:32:00 AM
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: KKLJINC
Quote from: dwbolto
My introduction to KTC looked something like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEjj1GhS2m8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEjj1GhS2m8)

Only instead of “God save King George” I yelled, “I am quitting by using the patch and gum!”

Now I wouldn't say I had knives thrown at me, but I did know I was not in a place friendly to this method…which was fine.  Sometimes the means by which you do something is just as important as the task to be accomplished, particularly within a community doing it together.

I’m not a violent man, but I am very quick to stand up for myself as you saw. But the community rallied to their own and “attacked”.  The odd part is I started to enjoy KTC more as I become the subject of ridicule.  This was clearly a group of men that looked to achieve a common task through a common method and there was going to be no bullshit.  I really liked the no bullshit part the most. The, “There might be a place for you to go, but this is how we do it here.  If you don’t like it, get lost.” This was a team and no one was going to crack the armor. The politically correct world does not live here and if someone threatens to drag it in it’s general quarters. 

During this, Evil Won began to email me about the validity of the site. Without actually saying it he let me know that, though there is a time for the group to rally, there is also a time for man to man straight talk.  Still no bullshit, but straight and personal.

Later yesterday I found myself in the convenience store to pick up a tin of the bear. I had been using nicotine replacement products all day, had no real urge to satisfy a need for nicotine, but was still about to dip.  It was clear that my usage is not just about getting the Nic Bitch in me.  It is systemic and a part of my daily routine.

So here I am, accepting that I am about to go through detox just like any other addict. Accepting that, though I may be in control of most aspects of my life, this bitch is not letting go without a fight.

But the difference this time is there is an army behind me. There are a group of men I can talk to like men. I now have brothers-in-arms for the battle.

I have dipped already today, so I imagine I should do roll call tomorrowÂ…Â….

But to each of you I now ask you to turn that energy I saw yesterday into an ally.

I say to each of youÂ…Â…
To hell with King George!
DW, interesting post, throw away the can, or the patches or the gum, or the cream, or whatever. Flush it burn it however you need to get rid of it to disconnect from your life, then go post roll Today! You can promise that you will not have any more in any form for the rest of the day. If you dont you will find yourself medicating all day and starting again tomorrow. Trash it post roll rinse and repeat tomorrow. Now go be quit.
I actually deleted that line about dipping today. figured it was fine to post roll half way through. Going to do it as soon as I'm in front of an actual computer to figure it out.
Get on board and give us your word.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: mich 34 on April 03, 2013, 10:44:00 AM
Quote from: KKLJINC
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: KKLJINC
Quote from: dwbolto
My introduction to KTC looked something like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEjj1GhS2m8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEjj1GhS2m8)

Only instead of “God save King George” I yelled, “I am quitting by using the patch and gum!”

Now I wouldn't say I had knives thrown at me, but I did know I was not in a place friendly to this method…which was fine.  Sometimes the means by which you do something is just as important as the task to be accomplished, particularly within a community doing it together.

I’m not a violent man, but I am very quick to stand up for myself as you saw. But the community rallied to their own and “attacked”.  The odd part is I started to enjoy KTC more as I become the subject of ridicule.  This was clearly a group of men that looked to achieve a common task through a common method and there was going to be no bullshit.  I really liked the no bullshit part the most. The, “There might be a place for you to go, but this is how we do it here.  If you don’t like it, get lost.” This was a team and no one was going to crack the armor. The politically correct world does not live here and if someone threatens to drag it in it’s general quarters. 

During this, Evil Won began to email me about the validity of the site. Without actually saying it he let me know that, though there is a time for the group to rally, there is also a time for man to man straight talk.  Still no bullshit, but straight and personal.

Later yesterday I found myself in the convenience store to pick up a tin of the bear. I had been using nicotine replacement products all day, had no real urge to satisfy a need for nicotine, but was still about to dip.  It was clear that my usage is not just about getting the Nic Bitch in me.  It is systemic and a part of my daily routine.

So here I am, accepting that I am about to go through detox just like any other addict. Accepting that, though I may be in control of most aspects of my life, this bitch is not letting go without a fight.

But the difference this time is there is an army behind me. There are a group of men I can talk to like men. I now have brothers-in-arms for the battle.

I have dipped already today, so I imagine I should do roll call tomorrowÂ…Â….

But to each of you I now ask you to turn that energy I saw yesterday into an ally.

I say to each of youÂ…Â…
To hell with King George!
DW, interesting post, throw away the can, or the patches or the gum, or the cream, or whatever. Flush it burn it however you need to get rid of it to disconnect from your life, then go post roll Today! You can promise that you will not have any more in any form for the rest of the day. If you dont you will find yourself medicating all day and starting again tomorrow. Trash it post roll rinse and repeat tomorrow. Now go be quit.
I actually deleted that line about dipping today. figured it was fine to post roll half way through. Going to do it as soon as I'm in front of an actual computer to figure it out.
Get on board and give us your word.
Evil is a quitter - he'll go out of his way to help anyone on this site, even if it means taking time from his job or his family. Post roll, reach out and you'll have that kind of support x 1,000's. I've sent pm's to quitters asking for cell numbers and not once did I get told no. I've given my number out each time I was asked and a few times when it wasn't requested. Post roll and reach out (2 steps, not one) you can reach out in live chat (evil hangs out there quite a bit), via email, pm or in a thread. If you want help you've come to the right place. That being said, none of us can quit for you, a ton of us would if we could but ... so you better be ready to fight for yourself here too.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: dwbolto on April 03, 2013, 10:47:00 AM
Quote from: mich
Quote from: KKLJINC
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: KKLJINC
Quote from: dwbolto
My introduction to KTC looked something like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEjj1GhS2m8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEjj1GhS2m8)

Only instead of “God save King George” I yelled, “I am quitting by using the patch and gum!”

Now I wouldn't say I had knives thrown at me, but I did know I was not in a place friendly to this method…which was fine.  Sometimes the means by which you do something is just as important as the task to be accomplished, particularly within a community doing it together.

I’m not a violent man, but I am very quick to stand up for myself as you saw. But the community rallied to their own and “attacked”.  The odd part is I started to enjoy KTC more as I become the subject of ridicule.  This was clearly a group of men that looked to achieve a common task through a common method and there was going to be no bullshit.  I really liked the no bullshit part the most. The, “There might be a place for you to go, but this is how we do it here.  If you don’t like it, get lost.” This was a team and no one was going to crack the armor. The politically correct world does not live here and if someone threatens to drag it in it’s general quarters. 

During this, Evil Won began to email me about the validity of the site. Without actually saying it he let me know that, though there is a time for the group to rally, there is also a time for man to man straight talk.  Still no bullshit, but straight and personal.

Later yesterday I found myself in the convenience store to pick up a tin of the bear. I had been using nicotine replacement products all day, had no real urge to satisfy a need for nicotine, but was still about to dip.  It was clear that my usage is not just about getting the Nic Bitch in me.  It is systemic and a part of my daily routine.

So here I am, accepting that I am about to go through detox just like any other addict. Accepting that, though I may be in control of most aspects of my life, this bitch is not letting go without a fight.

But the difference this time is there is an army behind me. There are a group of men I can talk to like men. I now have brothers-in-arms for the battle.

I have dipped already today, so I imagine I should do roll call tomorrowÂ…Â….

But to each of you I now ask you to turn that energy I saw yesterday into an ally.

I say to each of youÂ…Â…
To hell with King George!
DW, interesting post, throw away the can, or the patches or the gum, or the cream, or whatever. Flush it burn it however you need to get rid of it to disconnect from your life, then go post roll Today! You can promise that you will not have any more in any form for the rest of the day. If you dont you will find yourself medicating all day and starting again tomorrow. Trash it post roll rinse and repeat tomorrow. Now go be quit.
I actually deleted that line about dipping today. figured it was fine to post roll half way through. Going to do it as soon as I'm in front of an actual computer to figure it out.
Get on board and give us your word.
Evil is a quitter - he'll go out of his way to help anyone on this site, even if it means taking time from his job or his family. Post roll, reach out and you'll have that kind of support x 1,000's. I've sent pm's to quitters asking for cell numbers and not once did I get told no. I've given my number out each time I was asked and a few times when it wasn't requested. Post roll and reach out (2 steps, not one) you can reach out in live chat (evil hangs out there quite a bit), via email, pm or in a thread. If you want help you've come to the right place. That being said, none of us can quit for you, a ton of us would if we could but ... so you better be ready to fight for yourself here too.
Fighting for myself has never been an issue. I'm ready.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: srans on April 03, 2013, 02:19:00 PM
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: mich
Quote from: KKLJINC
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: KKLJINC
Quote from: dwbolto
My introduction to KTC looked something like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEjj1GhS2m8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEjj1GhS2m8)

Only instead of “God save King George” I yelled, “I am quitting by using the patch and gum!”

Now I wouldn't say I had knives thrown at me, but I did know I was not in a place friendly to this method…which was fine.  Sometimes the means by which you do something is just as important as the task to be accomplished, particularly within a community doing it together.

I’m not a violent man, but I am very quick to stand up for myself as you saw. But the community rallied to their own and “attacked”.  The odd part is I started to enjoy KTC more as I become the subject of ridicule.  This was clearly a group of men that looked to achieve a common task through a common method and there was going to be no bullshit.  I really liked the no bullshit part the most. The, “There might be a place for you to go, but this is how we do it here.  If you don’t like it, get lost.” This was a team and no one was going to crack the armor. The politically correct world does not live here and if someone threatens to drag it in it’s general quarters. 

During this, Evil Won began to email me about the validity of the site. Without actually saying it he let me know that, though there is a time for the group to rally, there is also a time for man to man straight talk.  Still no bullshit, but straight and personal.

Later yesterday I found myself in the convenience store to pick up a tin of the bear. I had been using nicotine replacement products all day, had no real urge to satisfy a need for nicotine, but was still about to dip.  It was clear that my usage is not just about getting the Nic Bitch in me.  It is systemic and a part of my daily routine.

So here I am, accepting that I am about to go through detox just like any other addict. Accepting that, though I may be in control of most aspects of my life, this bitch is not letting go without a fight.

But the difference this time is there is an army behind me. There are a group of men I can talk to like men. I now have brothers-in-arms for the battle.

I have dipped already today, so I imagine I should do roll call tomorrowÂ…Â….

But to each of you I now ask you to turn that energy I saw yesterday into an ally.

I say to each of youÂ…Â…
To hell with King George!
DW, interesting post, throw away the can, or the patches or the gum, or the cream, or whatever. Flush it burn it however you need to get rid of it to disconnect from your life, then go post roll Today! You can promise that you will not have any more in any form for the rest of the day. If you dont you will find yourself medicating all day and starting again tomorrow. Trash it post roll rinse and repeat tomorrow. Now go be quit.
I actually deleted that line about dipping today. figured it was fine to post roll half way through. Going to do it as soon as I'm in front of an actual computer to figure it out.
Get on board and give us your word.
Evil is a quitter - he'll go out of his way to help anyone on this site, even if it means taking time from his job or his family. Post roll, reach out and you'll have that kind of support x 1,000's. I've sent pm's to quitters asking for cell numbers and not once did I get told no. I've given my number out each time I was asked and a few times when it wasn't requested. Post roll and reach out (2 steps, not one) you can reach out in live chat (evil hangs out there quite a bit), via email, pm or in a thread. If you want help you've come to the right place. That being said, none of us can quit for you, a ton of us would if we could but ... so you better be ready to fight for yourself here too.
Fighting for myself has never been an issue. I'm ready.
That was a good read. Enjoyed the video.. NOW QUIT LIKE FUCK!!!!!
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: dwbolto on April 03, 2013, 02:50:00 PM
Quote from: srans
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: mich
Quote from: KKLJINC
Quote from: dwbolto
Quote from: KKLJINC
Quote from: dwbolto
My introduction to KTC looked something like this

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEjj1GhS2m8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEjj1GhS2m8)

Only instead of “God save King George” I yelled, “I am quitting by using the patch and gum!”

Now I wouldn't say I had knives thrown at me, but I did know I was not in a place friendly to this method…which was fine.  Sometimes the means by which you do something is just as important as the task to be accomplished, particularly within a community doing it together.

I’m not a violent man, but I am very quick to stand up for myself as you saw. But the community rallied to their own and “attacked”.  The odd part is I started to enjoy KTC more as I become the subject of ridicule.  This was clearly a group of men that looked to achieve a common task through a common method and there was going to be no bullshit.  I really liked the no bullshit part the most. The, “There might be a place for you to go, but this is how we do it here.  If you don’t like it, get lost.” This was a team and no one was going to crack the armor. The politically correct world does not live here and if someone threatens to drag it in it’s general quarters. 

During this, Evil Won began to email me about the validity of the site. Without actually saying it he let me know that, though there is a time for the group to rally, there is also a time for man to man straight talk.  Still no bullshit, but straight and personal.

Later yesterday I found myself in the convenience store to pick up a tin of the bear. I had been using nicotine replacement products all day, had no real urge to satisfy a need for nicotine, but was still about to dip.  It was clear that my usage is not just about getting the Nic Bitch in me.  It is systemic and a part of my daily routine.

So here I am, accepting that I am about to go through detox just like any other addict. Accepting that, though I may be in control of most aspects of my life, this bitch is not letting go without a fight.

But the difference this time is there is an army behind me. There are a group of men I can talk to like men. I now have brothers-in-arms for the battle.

I have dipped already today, so I imagine I should do roll call tomorrowÂ…Â….

But to each of you I now ask you to turn that energy I saw yesterday into an ally.

I say to each of youÂ…Â…
To hell with King George!
DW, interesting post, throw away the can, or the patches or the gum, or the cream, or whatever. Flush it burn it however you need to get rid of it to disconnect from your life, then go post roll Today! You can promise that you will not have any more in any form for the rest of the day. If you dont you will find yourself medicating all day and starting again tomorrow. Trash it post roll rinse and repeat tomorrow. Now go be quit.
I actually deleted that line about dipping today. figured it was fine to post roll half way through. Going to do it as soon as I'm in front of an actual computer to figure it out.
Get on board and give us your word.
Evil is a quitter - he'll go out of his way to help anyone on this site, even if it means taking time from his job or his family. Post roll, reach out and you'll have that kind of support x 1,000's. I've sent pm's to quitters asking for cell numbers and not once did I get told no. I've given my number out each time I was asked and a few times when it wasn't requested. Post roll and reach out (2 steps, not one) you can reach out in live chat (evil hangs out there quite a bit), via email, pm or in a thread. If you want help you've come to the right place. That being said, none of us can quit for you, a ton of us would if we could but ... so you better be ready to fight for yourself here too.
Fighting for myself has never been an issue. I'm ready.
That was a good read. Enjoyed the video.. NOW QUIT LIKE FUCK!!!!!
First Post Roll done. Quit Like Fuck.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: srans on April 14, 2013, 09:51:00 PM
I was wondering what happened with king george here.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: dwbolto on July 23, 2014, 10:28:00 PM
I joined this site over a year ago and proceeded to inform everyone that I was using the patch AND gum. That went over as well as a bull in a china factor. From that point on I chose to battle those that were rightfully giving me hell as opposed to buying into a method that was clearly working for so many. No surprise that quit was not successful and I now have another year of dipping under my belt. My addiction can now be measured in multiple decades, over half of which did not include spitting.

Why did I cave?
I think the real question is not why did I cave, but why did I choose to ignore the advice of experienced quitters. Hell, I’ve caved hundreds of times, maybe thousands. In fact, I only buy one tin at a time, because “I’m quitting tomorrow.” A phrase I’ve already been called out for on this site today.
So the answer is, I caved because I chose to continue to quit alone, as opposed to being quit with a group of like-minded men, which will be a totally new experience in the quitting saga.

What happened?
I’m not sure exactly how to answer that differently than “Why did I cave?” I suppose, if focusing just on my experience with the site, and not the dozens of attempts since then, I let my pride get in my way. Instead of humbly accepting the “advice” of those on this site, I chose to fight back. Even after that I gained an ally that contacted me daily, but I let him, and myself down. It was easier to dip, than to quit.
So I dipped, and that first one was, no doubt, unbelievable. But, just like every other time, that novelty wears off and youÂ’re left with an addiction that really does nothing but unsuccessfully attempt to fill a void.
And here I am, over a year later, with the same void, same habit and no control.

What will I do differently?
I am going to join the crowd. I am going to listen to those that have had success quitting, since I never have. I am going to practice some humility, live in the moment and be a novice absorbing every bit of wisdom you all choose to impart.

Maybe one day, IÂ’ll be the guy giving help to some newbie, but that day is far off. IÂ’m focusing on kicking a dirty and deadly habit IÂ’ve had as long as I can remember, and IÂ’ll do this by relying on the strength of this group 100%
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: wookie5002 on July 23, 2014, 10:32:00 PM
Welcome to the TITANS.
Title: Re: Day 1
Post by: theTJB on July 23, 2014, 11:12:00 PM
Welcome back.


No matter how bad the urges get or how shitty you feel during your quit, know that we have all gone through the same thing and you can get through them too. Lean on your brothers when you need to.

Whenever you need to strengthen your quit, read through the Hall of Fame Speeches (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55568/) or the Words of Wisdom (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55572/) section.

If you need any help, feel free to send a PM.

Quit like fuck.