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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: mlb615 on August 13, 2013, 03:29:00 AM
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Have been on this site from afar for a decent amount of time but figured its time for me to join and try to kick the can. Started dipping about 5 years ago while playing Baseball, continued to dip through college especially when I had a lot of work to do or when I was watching baseball/football/hockey/whatever, and now I pretty much golf everyday and have always been sure to bring a tin along with me. From what I have read it is best to avoid triggers that you would normally associate with dipping, but I want to keep golfing as much as possible. Any suggestions? At this point I know I want to quit and if that means giving up golf for a little I guess I am open to try it, but would like to avoid it if possible. Any words of wisdom would be great.
Thanks fellas
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Also - shout out to all of you who have killed the can. Can't wait to be one of you
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Have been on this site from afar for a decent amount of time but figured its time for me to join and try to kick the can. Started dipping about 5 years ago while playing Baseball, continued to dip through college especially when I had a lot of work to do or when I was watching baseball/football/hockey/whatever, and now I pretty much golf everyday and have always been sure to bring a tin along with me. From what I have read it is best to avoid triggers that you would normally associate with dipping, but I want to keep golfing as much as possible. Any suggestions? At this point I know I want to quit and if that means giving up golf for a little I guess I am open to try it, but would like to avoid it if possible. Any words of wisdom would be great.
Thanks fellas
Step one - ask yourself... Do I really want to quit?
The answer to this question is important. A lot of people stop. Or they try. Winners quit.
There are a lot of things that can get you in the mindset, but this has to come from you. What do you gain from dipping? After 5 years - are you really getting a buzz out of it? Really think about that? You are spending about 5$ a can to spit out brown nastiness that causes cancer. Is that really cool like it was when you started? Are you proud to chew? Would your family and those that love you be proud of you for quitting? Now get out a calculator and multiply out the 5$ a can over 5 years. Read the stories of the kerns family. Dig deep - and decide.... Do I really want this?
If you are ready to quit, flush your tobacco and I mean all of it. Including the can you have hidden under the penthouse you have hidden under your tshirts in the 3rd drawer of your dresser. Yeah, I looked, so what? Then post roll in November for your day 1. Posting roll here means that you are giving your word to yourself and thousands of others that you won't use nicotine today. Then be a man of integrity. Keep your word. And tomorrow, when you wake up, post roll first thing. Posting first thing is an insurance policy if you are a man of integrity. Follow the plan and you can do this. And you will.
As far as the golf goes, I would probably lay off for a week or two. The golf didn't make you chew - you made you chew. But it might be good to avoid the perception until you get through a little time and build up some strength. Take that time to read read read on here and make contacts. They build accountability and will help pull you through struggles you may have.
Really think about those questions - this is an important moment in your life.
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Thanks for your response worktowin
Yes. I really want to quit. I get nothing out of it except sloppy spitters all over and an empty wallet. I hate that I dip and its time to kick the addiction for good.
I will post roll first thing in the morning.
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...... and if that means giving up golf for a little I guess I am open to try it, but would like to avoid it if possible. Any words of wisdom would be great.
Sounds like you know what is actually required to make this quit work. You're a bit hesitant to admit it and follow through, but deep down you know.
Being nicotine addicts means that our quit has to come first. That applies to every situation, and it means something different for every person. To me, it meant completely changing my activities for a while until my quit matured a bit. For instance: I COMPLETELY quit drinking for a few months. I knew, in my heart, that a couple beers would give me just enough attitude to say "to hell with this!!" and bum a dip off one of my friends.
Commit 100%, and make up your mind that quitting is an absolute necessity to living a long, healthy life. Everything else is just details.
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Golf. That one got me. I did avoid for awhile and the first time I went without it, I almost passed out on the 6th hole. BUT I made it.
I was unprepared however. I had no seeds, no fake, mo I um, etc...
I think for me golf was one of those things that it just seemed "cool" to be chomping on something. Not sure why, because I'm an addict is an obvious reason but for some stupid reason i THOUGHT I needed dip to enjoy my round.
I avoided golf like the plague for a few months after that. I convinced myself that I only golfed as an excuse to chew.
One day my golf buddy called and asked if I wanted to go and for the umpteenth time I meekly said no in my woe as me tone.
My wife heard that and read me the riot act. Called me a pussy and every other imasculating term you could think of. My wife does not speak like this .
She demanded I call him back and go. So I did.
I loaded up with fake and some seeds made it through the round ok. We went the next week and it was even easier and the next week easier yet, and so on.
Eventually I realized I LOVED golf and chewing while doing is was not necessa but instead lie #3,432 the nic bitch told me.
Today I can easily golf a round with nothing, although I do still throw in mouh full of seeds once in in awhile.
Point is be prepared. You don't have to give up golf and you don't have to attack it the way I did either. I was just giving you my personal experience.
If you don't think you can do it for awhile , pretty sure golf courses aren't going anywhere and WILL still be there when you ready.
If you think "man, this Diesel guy is a real pussy" and decide to go today, just be ready as it could be tough, but you won't die. Just be prepared.
There's my 5 cents...
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...... and if that means giving up golf for a little I guess I am open to try it, but would like to avoid it if possible. Any words of wisdom would be great.
Sounds like you know what is actually required to make this quit work. You're a bit hesitant to admit it and follow through, but deep down you know.
Being nicotine addicts means that our quit has to come first. That applies to every situation, and it means something different for every person. To me, it meant completely changing my activities for a while until my quit matured a bit. For instance: I COMPLETELY quit drinking for a few months. I knew, in my heart, that a couple beers would give me just enough attitude to say "to hell with this!!" and bum a dip off one of my friends.
Commit 100%, and make up your mind that quitting is an absolute necessity to living a long, healthy life. Everything else is just details.
I don't see your name on the roll yet! Actually when you made your last post was already today. Triggers will always be there, on my day 500 today I still face triggers but I've learned to deal with them. Like worktown said you may want to take a break for a week or two till the fog and withdrawal pain have subsided. Then there is the trigger of alcohol which I would wait longer, I say that because I've watched how so many pretty damn good quitters get caught up and cave while drinking.
I hope you aren't waiting to post till you finish off that last can or one more dip. POST ROLL
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Golf. That one got me. I did avoid for awhile and the first time I went without it, I almost passed out on the 6th hole. BUT I made it.
I was unprepared however. I had no seeds, no fake, mo I um, etc...
I think for me golf was one of those things that it just seemed "cool" to be chomping on something. Not sure why, because I'm an addict is an obvious reason but for some stupid reason i THOUGHT I needed dip to enjoy my round.
I avoided golf like the plague for a few months after that. I convinced myself that I only golfed as an excuse to chew.
One day my golf buddy called and asked if I wanted to go and for the umpteenth time I meekly said no in my woe as me tone.
My wife heard that and read me the riot act. Called me a pussy and every other imasculating term you could think of. My wife does not speak like this .
She demanded I call him back and go. So I did.
I loaded up with fake and some seeds made it through the round ok. We went the next week and it was even easier and the next week easier yet, and so on.
Eventually I realized I LOVED golf and chewing while doing is was not necessa but instead lie #3,432 the nic bitch told me.
Today I can easily golf a round with nothing, although I do still throw in mouh full of seeds once in in awhile.
Point is be prepared. You don't have to give up golf and you don't have to attack it the way I did either. I was just giving you my personal experience.
If you don't think you can do it for awhile , pretty sure golf courses aren't going anywhere and WILL still be there when you ready.
If you think "man, this Diesel guy is a real pussy" and decide to go today, just be ready as it could be tough, but you won't die. Just be prepared.
There's my 5 cents...
Nicotine controls our brains Dopamine receptors! It makes us associate things we do with nicotine! If we have a good game of Golf while chewing then we believe that the chew made us a better golfer. When we quit we have to retrain our brains to associate things with out nicotine. Most of us have done EVERYTHING with a dip in so we have a lot of things to relearn! The good news is each time we fight through a trigger (things we associate with chew) the less powerful that trigger becomes! Like with diesel, each time he golfed his brain learned that he CAN golf with out chew. And so it became easier! You have to retrain your brain if you are triggered by golf. Do it today or do it in 3 months.... It does not matter! It will be something you will be glad to see is unnecessary! But like Diesel said, be prepared! It is not easy! But it is simple! DO NOT CHEW WHILE YOU GOLF!
P.S. I caution you to not really think Diesel is a pussy! I think he is secretively violent! :D
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Not that this is that easy of a task, but hit the range today and hit a bucket of balls without dip. Drink lots of water. Go to the putting green again without any dip and practice that for a while....and really concentrate on what you are doing. If you golf everyday i'm sure you have a practice routine...really follow it and don't chew. Start in around 3 feet with about 25 golf balls and work your way back a foot after each 25 you hit....really concentrate...read the green at every break...again not chewing. Once you get out to about 10 feet stop for a second and ask yourself "was that so hard?' You see quitting can be a lot like golf...it is mindnumbingly frustrating at times but when you break it down foot by foot or minute by minute, you are building your game and your quit.
Now go out and get a round in...take some seeds and drink a bunch of water. Concentrate hard on each shot. They won't all go the way you want them to go, but the enjoyment comes in being on the course, outside competing with yourself. Again, just like your quit. You are not competing with anyone...just you. The enjoyment comes in the quit.
When you finish your first round dip free and 3 over par, just think...did i really need dip to do what i just did? That my friend, is my advice on how to tackle a trigger. Quit on
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Deeee-zle,
Out-f*cking-standing!!! Nic-free round of golf is a milestone. I'm not much of a golfer...no time with little kids. But the first time I played golf after quitting was at Day 30 or so...with my boss. He couldn't believe that I was serious about not dipping. He was sure I would cave before the turn. He didn't overtly act like an ass. But his arrogance about me caving actually made my quit stronger.
That was about 3 years ago. I've been nic free while he still sucks on lip turds.
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Golf. That one got me. I did avoid for awhile and the first time I went without it, I almost passed out on the 6th hole. BUT I made it.
I was unprepared however. I had no seeds, no fake, mo I um, etc...
I think for me golf was one of those things that it just seemed "cool" to be chomping on something. Not sure why, because I'm an addict is an obvious reason but for some stupid reason i THOUGHT I needed dip to enjoy my round.
I avoided golf like the plague for a few months after that. I convinced myself that I only golfed as an excuse to chew.Â
One day my golf buddy called and asked if I wanted to go and for the umpteenth time I meekly said no in my woe as me tone.
My wife heard that and read me the riot act. Called me a pussy and every other imasculating term you could think of. My wife does not speak like this .
She demanded I call him back and go. So I did.
I loaded up with fake and some seeds made it through the round ok. We went the next week and it was even easier and the next week easier yet, and so on.
Eventually I realized I LOVED golf and chewing while doing is was not necessa but instead lie #3,432 the nic bitch told me.
Today I can easily golf a round with nothing, although I do still throw in mouh full of seeds once in in awhile.Â
Point is be prepared. You don't have to give up golf and you don't have to attack it the way I did either. I was just giving you my personal experience.
If you don't think you can do it for awhile , pretty sure golf courses aren't going anywhere and WILL still be there when you ready.Â
If you think "man, this Diesel guy is a real pussy" and decide to go today, just be ready as it could be tough, but you won't die. Just be prepared.
There's my 5 cents...
Nicotine controls our brains Dopamine receptors! It makes us associate things we do with nicotine! If we have a good game of Golf while chewing then we believe that the chew made us a better golfer. When we quit we have to retrain our brains to associate things with out nicotine. Most of us have done EVERYTHING with a dip in so we have a lot of things to relearn! The good news is each time we fight through a trigger (things we associate with chew) the less powerful that trigger becomes! Like with diesel, each time he golfed his brain learned that he CAN golf with out chew. And so it became easier! You have to retrain your brain if you are triggered by golf. Do it today or do it in 3 months.... It does not matter! It will be something you will be glad to see is unnecessary! But like Diesel said, be prepared! It is not easy! But it is simple! DO NOT CHEW WHILE YOU GOLF!
P.S. I caution you to not really think Diesel is a pussy! I think he is secretively violent! :D
MLB - how are you doing? Try to keep a record here of these early days - it will help you later.
Jake is right about diesel btw. Diesel has pictures....
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Golf. That one got me. I did avoid for awhile and the first time I went without it, I almost passed out on the 6th hole. BUT I made it.
I was unprepared however. I had no seeds, no fake, mo I um, etc...
I think for me golf was one of those things that it just seemed "cool" to be chomping on something. Not sure why, because I'm an addict is an obvious reason but for some stupid reason i THOUGHT I needed dip to enjoy my round.
I avoided golf like the plague for a few months after that. I convinced myself that I only golfed as an excuse to chew.Â
One day my golf buddy called and asked if I wanted to go and for the umpteenth time I meekly said no in my woe as me tone.
My wife heard that and read me the riot act. Called me a pussy and every other imasculating term you could think of. My wife does not speak like this .
She demanded I call him back and go. So I did.
I loaded up with fake and some seeds made it through the round ok. We went the next week and it was even easier and the next week easier yet, and so on.
Eventually I realized I LOVED golf and chewing while doing is was not necessa but instead lie #3,432 the nic bitch told me.
Today I can easily golf a round with nothing, although I do still throw in mouh full of seeds once in in awhile.Â
Point is be prepared. You don't have to give up golf and you don't have to attack it the way I did either. I was just giving you my personal experience.
If you don't think you can do it for awhile , pretty sure golf courses aren't going anywhere and WILL still be there when you ready.Â
If you think "man, this Diesel guy is a real pussy" and decide to go today, just be ready as it could be tough, but you won't die. Just be prepared.
There's my 5 cents...
Nicotine controls our brains Dopamine receptors! It makes us associate things we do with nicotine! If we have a good game of Golf while chewing then we believe that the chew made us a better golfer. When we quit we have to retrain our brains to associate things with out nicotine. Most of us have done EVERYTHING with a dip in so we have a lot of things to relearn! The good news is each time we fight through a trigger (things we associate with chew) the less powerful that trigger becomes! Like with diesel, each time he golfed his brain learned that he CAN golf with out chew. And so it became easier! You have to retrain your brain if you are triggered by golf. Do it today or do it in 3 months.... It does not matter! It will be something you will be glad to see is unnecessary! But like Diesel said, be prepared! It is not easy! But it is simple! DO NOT CHEW WHILE YOU GOLF!
P.S. I caution you to not really think Diesel is a pussy! I think he is secretively violent! :D
MLB - how are you doing? Try to keep a record here of these early days - it will help you later.
Jake is right about diesel btw. Diesel has pictures....
I'm as gentle as a pussy willow.
Where the fuck are you at mlb??? Got some pretty good advice here. Hopefully you did not whimp out and decide it might be too hard like a little pussy ass bitch.
No thanks, no update, no kiss my ass you guys are idiots???
I am going to assume you forgot how to use a computer for awhile and will remember at some point today.
We will be waiting patiently.
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where you at? can't hack it? you think spitting a wad a shit in your fellow golfer's line makes it more enjoyable? Checked November...didn't see your name...if i just missed it i apologize...if i'm right though...you pussed out. just like a lot of newbs before you...i've wasted too much of my time trying to help guys like you and it normally turns out the same way...to big of a puss to hack it. Hope you beat the odds, but odds are your golf career will be cut short because of something you could have prevented
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Haven't pussed out - day 2 making some BBQ pulled pork without a lip as we speak. Going strong knocking out push ups whenever I get a craving
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Haven't pussed out - day 2 making some BBQ pulled pork without a lip as we speak. Going strong knocking out push ups whenever I get a craving
good. happy grilling
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Haven't pussed out - day 2 making some BBQ pulled pork without a lip as we speak. Going strong knocking out push ups whenever I get a craving
good. happy grilling
Excellent - I see that you have posted roll also. Glad you are committed. Hang in there - it gets better. And good luck with the grill.
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Haven't pussed out - day 2 making some BBQ pulled pork without a lip as we speak. Going strong knocking out push ups whenever I get a craving
good. happy grilling
I may have overlooked it, but did you post roll today? That, MLB, is much more important than the perfect piece of pork...
He did post and it was early. #2 on the Nov 13 roll call. That was the most important thing you did all day! Nice job MLB! Grill and Quit on!
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You actually have given me a wonderful idea...go play some golf after work...grill some good food and have about 6 tasty beverages in the almost fall like weather we are having here in indiana...quit on
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I actually just posted roll so not number 1 I just put it up top because I had
No idea where to put it but ill throw it on the bottom next time
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I actually just posted roll so not number 1 I just put it up top because I had
No idea where to put it but ill throw it on the bottom next time
Ha... you cheater! Ok, now you know how to post roll. Let's talk about when to post roll. In the list of priorities for your day -- commiting to your quit better be at the top. Worktowin was absolutely right! You need to post roll first thing and commit to your quit early. It is the most important thing you will do all day. With that said, I will let you get back to your BBQ. Quit on MLB!
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Haven't pussed out - day 2 making some BBQ pulled pork without a lip as we speak. Going strong knocking out push ups whenever I get a craving
Well done, fine sir. Sorry I called you names. Sometimes that's thy only way a person will respond.
Chillin, grillin and quittin...nice trio.
Keep up the good work and don't be a stranger. Use this intro as your quit journal.
Quit on...
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still going strong - even went to a major league baseball game today and was cool just hanging out and enjoying the day. posted roll in the morning from my phone but when i went to go check now i didnt see my name there so i did it again
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still going strong - even went to a major league baseball game today and was cool just hanging out and enjoying the day. posted roll in the morning from my phone but when i went to go check now i didnt see my name there so i did it again
Ah yes... The hazing ritual if the ktc website! I think we've all experienced it. Post early! Then double check a few munutes later. That post is your word. And MLB, it is clear that you are a man of your word.
Glad you joined us. This is the best decision of your life.
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@worktowin thanks for your constant support - nice to know everyone on here really wants the best for each other
keep on keepin on fellow ktc'ers
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You will find out that you can do all sorts of cool stuff without a dip.
Freedom is awesome.
Congrats on choosing Freedom!
Miles +1 with you today!
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poker night tonight no problems - first round of golf tomorrow morning
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poker night tonight no problems - first round of golf tomorrow morning
Mind over matter....
Wake up. Post roll. Play golf. Avoid sand traps.
And enjoy life; because it is yours again! Proud to be on your team.
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18 holes down - teeing off again for round 2
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18 holes down - teeing off again for round 2
:)
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18 holes down - teeing off again for round 2
:)
you got this
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54 holes in two days... No problems whatsoever
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54 holes in two days... No problems whatsoever
Facing temptation head on (slaying a nic dragon) is empowering as hell. Well done, MLB, well done. Just keep adding +1s, and keep your guard up. Our weakest moments can come when we think we are at our strongest.
Have a great week.
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54 holes in two days... No problems whatsoever
Facing temptation head on (slaying a nic dragon) is empowering as hell. Well done, MLB, well done. Just keep adding +1s, and keep your guard up. Our weakest moments can come when we think we are at our strongest.
Have a great week.
Sweet! Good for you... Your a Quitter!
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54 holes in two days... No problems whatsoever
Facing temptation head on (slaying a nic dragon) is empowering as hell. Well done, MLB, well done. Just keep adding +1s, and keep your guard up. Our weakest moments can come when we think we are at our strongest.
Have a great week.
Sweet! Good for you... Your a Quitter!
Man I was sooo worried about golf as well, especially since everyone is either smoking something or dipping. Once you get a couple rounds in without Nic you can't use the "well I played shitty bc I didn't have a dip in" excuse... Which sucks for me bc I like having something to blame my terrible golf game on! Great work ODAAT mlb
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still feeling good
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still feeling good
freedom is so nice and it only takes 1 day at a time
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you around still? Checked november roll....didn't see your name. Last time i checked on you, i was a bit hostile, i'm not going to do that here, just making sure you got bumped or are stuck under a rock somewhere
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I'm good just golfing
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mlb615 - Day 97 - havent posted roll or even been on this website in a real long time. going strong though. hope everyone has a great fantasy football sunday
What's been going on MLB? After leaving us for a couple months are you having trouble with your quit? If you left us after 17 days, what changed?
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im doing good - 97 days