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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: FlyersGuy on June 12, 2014, 03:11:00 PM
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Hi all,
My name is Nick. I've been dipping about a can a day for 8 years now. I'm from Philadelphia (as many of you could tell by my username) and I started chewing a bit in high school and by the time I got to college to play hockey I was chewing a can and a half of Skoal Mint everyday. From Skoal Mint I went to Skoal Mint Pouches and have been chewing them for the last four years. Easy, convenient and easily concealed.
I actually just got out of a four year relationship that chew was very negatively affecting. She was someone I cared about very much and wanted to marry that continuously told me that she did not want to be with someone with a disgusting and expensive habit that would end up killing me. I balked and continued to chew. Among other reasons, she left. That was almost four months ago. I've been trying to get myself out there to date and I know that no girls my age is attracted to a guy with a big wad of dip in his mouth.
At this point I've been toying around with the idea of quitting. I've gone through some rough times over the last few years. And have always used my can as my crutch. I was always a little embarrassed of my old habit. Many of my teammates and friends still chew.
Saturday I got a brochure in the mail from Skoal. A big poster showing a couple of guys in the woods with some women at a camp site. I was embarrassed A. that Skoal was sending me mail and coupons, B. that Skoal actually tries selling that women like men that chew and C. that I had once thought it was cool myself.
Well now, my mouth hurts. I chewed when I got mad. I chewed when I was sad. I chewed when I had a bad game. I chewed when I had a fight with my girlfriend, parent, sibling or friend. I chewed when I would drink beers. I chewed when I drove. I chewed when I was stressed at school, work or hockey. The problem was, I always chewed.
I ordered Bacc Off over the weekend. I have tried quitting cold turkey before and after a week I'd inevitably be back at square one. I've been weening myself down off Skoal for a week or two now. I've been sweating at night and my head feels a little bit stuff.
Last night was like a sign. I had one last chew left in the can (2 pouches) as I was driving home from work. I said to myself I'll stop and get another couple cans on my way home. For some reason, which I would never forget to get chew, I drove home and forgot everything and by the time I came to it, I was home. My box of Bacc Off was waiting for me at the door.
I had one final chew after dinner last night and that was it. I'm tired of feeling sick, I'm tired of worrying about my mouth, I'm hate worrying about having oral cancer, I hate being dependent on something that's deadly.
Well, here I am. Not even a full day in. Admitting to myself that I had a problem and that I'm putting it behind me.
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Flyers,
Good time to quit. Welcome aboard! You will find a lot of support here at KTC. Make sure you post roll everyday. It is your word to your fellow quitters that you will not use today. You should also print out the "contract to give up". Every time you feel tempted, read that contract and remember giving your word to your comrades here at KTC. We got your back!
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Flyers guy. despite your weak choice in hockey teams, I will help you today. Please read up on the welcome center, and learn how to post roll. Once you post roll you are promising all of us that your will not use nicotine today, and we in turn make that promise to you. I have given you my number if you need help posting, or want to talk about what real hockey teams do in the off season.
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i haven't jumped on a new guys' intro in quite awhile but for some reason i can't put my finger on, yours struck me a bit. you can do this...one day at a time. don't chew today...that is all...then wake up in the morning and decide all over again. be a slave, or not
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Flyers has posted roll, let the quitting begin!
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Check your PMs (top right corner). The resources are here, you just have to use them.
Welcome to KTC Nick.
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Flyersguy,
Welcome to KTC....there's no way to say this other than to tell you for the next couple days your life is going to suck (at least mine has). But no matter what, once you've posted roll, you've told the KTC Community that you're not going to use...so don't use. If you need help, we're here for you. That's the neat thing about accountability and this community. I'm a new KTC member my own self, but I know that the words I read here come from people who have been down the row you and I are now plowing....listen to them.
PM me if you need phone numbers...I don't text much (no smart phone for me cause I'm too friggin old)....but I will answer if it rings.
You made a good choice today....KTC will help you continue to make good choices.
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Hi all,
My name is Nick. I've been dipping about a can a day for 8 years now. I'm from Philadelphia (as many of you could tell by my username) and I started chewing a bit in high school and by the time I got to college to play hockey I was chewing a can and a half of Skoal Mint everyday. From Skoal Mint I went to Skoal Mint Pouches and have been chewing them for the last four years. Easy, convenient and easily concealed.
I actually just got out of a four year relationship that chew was very negatively affecting. She was someone I cared about very much and wanted to marry that continuously told me that she did not want to be with someone with a disgusting and expensive habit that would end up killing me. I balked and continued to chew. Among other reasons, she left. That was almost four months ago. I've been trying to get myself out there to date and I know that no girls my age is attracted to a guy with a big wad of dip in his mouth.
At this point I've been toying around with the idea of quitting. I've gone through some rough times over the last few years. And have always used my can as my crutch. I was always a little embarrassed of my old habit. Many of my teammates and friends still chew.
Saturday I got a brochure in the mail from Skoal. A big poster showing a couple of guys in the woods with some women at a camp site. I was embarrassed A. that Skoal was sending me mail and coupons, B. that Skoal actually tries selling that women like men that chew and C. that I had once thought it was cool myself.
Well now, my mouth hurts. I chewed when I got mad. I chewed when I was sad. I chewed when I had a bad game. I chewed when I had a fight with my girlfriend, parent, sibling or friend. I chewed when I would drink beers. I chewed when I drove. I chewed when I was stressed at school, work or hockey. The problem was, I always chewed.
I ordered Bacc Off over the weekend. I have tried quitting cold turkey before and after a week I'd inevitably be back at square one. I've been weening myself down off Skoal for a week or two now. I've been sweating at night and my head feels a little bit stuff.
Last night was like a sign. I had one last chew left in the can (2 pouches) as I was driving home from work. I said to myself I'll stop and get another couple cans on my way home. For some reason, which I would never forget to get chew, I drove home and forgot everything and by the time I came to it, I was home. My box of Bacc Off was waiting for me at the door.
I had one final chew after dinner last night and that was it. I'm tired of feeling sick, I'm tired of worrying about my mouth, I'm hate worrying about having oral cancer, I hate being dependent on something that's deadly.
Well, here I am. Not even a full day in. Admitting to myself that I had a problem and that I'm putting it behind me.
Welcome Nick.
You're not here by accident. It is your time, your quit.
You can do this ODAAT, period
Read here 2 hours a day. Gather your tools of quit. Gulp the KTC quit Kool-Aid and you can take your life back from that horrible nic bitch!
40,000 quitters cannot be wrong!
Post roll,
keep your word
wake and repeat.
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Hi all,
My name is Nick. I've been dipping about a can a day for 8 years now. I'm from Philadelphia (as many of you could tell by my username) and I started chewing a bit in high school and by the time I got to college to play hockey I was chewing a can and a half of Skoal Mint everyday. From Skoal Mint I went to Skoal Mint Pouches and have been chewing them for the last four years. Easy, convenient and easily concealed.
I actually just got out of a four year relationship that chew was very negatively affecting. She was someone I cared about very much and wanted to marry that continuously told me that she did not want to be with someone with a disgusting and expensive habit that would end up killing me. I balked and continued to chew. Among other reasons, she left. That was almost four months ago. I've been trying to get myself out there to date and I know that no girls my age is attracted to a guy with a big wad of dip in his mouth.
At this point I've been toying around with the idea of quitting. I've gone through some rough times over the last few years. And have always used my can as my crutch. I was always a little embarrassed of my old habit. Many of my teammates and friends still chew.
Saturday I got a brochure in the mail from Skoal. A big poster showing a couple of guys in the woods with some women at a camp site. I was embarrassed A. that Skoal was sending me mail and coupons, B. that Skoal actually tries selling that women like men that chew and C. that I had once thought it was cool myself.
Well now, my mouth hurts. I chewed when I got mad. I chewed when I was sad. I chewed when I had a bad game. I chewed when I had a fight with my girlfriend, parent, sibling or friend. I chewed when I would drink beers. I chewed when I drove. I chewed when I was stressed at school, work or hockey. The problem was, I always chewed.
I ordered Bacc Off over the weekend. I have tried quitting cold turkey before and after a week I'd inevitably be back at square one. I've been weening myself down off Skoal for a week or two now. I've been sweating at night and my head feels a little bit stuff.
Last night was like a sign. I had one last chew left in the can (2 pouches) as I was driving home from work. I said to myself I'll stop and get another couple cans on my way home. For some reason, which I would never forget to get chew, I drove home and forgot everything and by the time I came to it, I was home. My box of Bacc Off was waiting for me at the door.
I had one final chew after dinner last night and that was it. I'm tired of feeling sick, I'm tired of worrying about my mouth, I'm hate worrying about having oral cancer, I hate being dependent on something that's deadly.
Well, here I am. Not even a full day in. Admitting to myself that I had a problem and that I'm putting it behind me.
Welcome Nick.
You're not here by accident. It is your time, your quit.
You can do this ODAAT, period
Read here 2 hours a day. Gather your tools of quit. Gulp the KTC quit Kool-Aid and you can take your life back from that horrible nic bitch!
40,000 quitters cannot be wrong!
Post roll,
keep your word
wake and repeat.
The freedom will be so worth it, listen to 30 above here.
You have joined not only a community to help you quit but also it will lead you down a better path to become better as a person. Cause as you join you need to commit yourself to honoring your word each and every day that you come here (instead of lying while we poisoned yourself). Commit to becoming a part, making connections with each other (building the bonds with the type of people that reach out and help each other).
It is a battle and there will be some tough times, but as a group this is doable each day.
So from another near to the city of brotherly love, kick that poison to the curb, and give me a yell as I will help walk this path with you.
Be strong, Be good and be quit.
Derek
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Boy was last night a rough one.
Finally got to sleep around midnight and woke up at about 2:30, head pounding, drenched in sweat. Felt absolutely miserable. My sheets were soaked, I stunk like body odor so I had to get up, took another shower and three Advil.
Finally fell back asleep and was up by 6:00 for work. 36 hours in. I'm hoping that tonight isn't as bad as last night.
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Boy was last night a rough one.
Finally got to sleep around midnight and woke up at about 2:30, head pounding, drenched in sweat. Felt absolutely miserable. My sheets were soaked, I stunk like body odor so I had to get up, took another shower and three Advil.
Finally fell back asleep and was up by 6:00 for work. 36 hours in. I'm hoping that tonight isn't as bad as last night.
It's not fun bro but it's you healing. Dig on how bad this sucks... never again put yourself through it. It's the price of real freedom... it's worth it man. Trust me.
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Boy was last night a rough one.
Finally got to sleep around midnight and woke up at about 2:30, head pounding, drenched in sweat. Felt absolutely miserable. My sheets were soaked, I stunk like body odor so I had to get up, took another shower and three Advil.
Finally fell back asleep and was up by 6:00 for work. 36 hours in. I'm hoping that tonight isn't as bad as last night.
Keep pounding Flyer. Nic is in your system to an appreciable degree for 72 hours. Once you get through day 3, things should start to come around. Embrace the suck and know that you never ever wanna go thru it again. Every day is freedom (even when it sucks) is better than any good day when you were using. You're saving your life today. Keep it up.
QLF today brother. PM if you wanna swap numbers.
J2thaZ
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Boy was last night a rough one.
Finally got to sleep around midnight and woke up at about 2:30, head pounding, drenched in sweat. Felt absolutely miserable. My sheets were soaked, I stunk like body odor so I had to get up, took another shower and three Advil.
Finally fell back asleep and was up by 6:00 for work. 36 hours in. I'm hoping that tonight isn't as bad as last night.
FlyersGuy,
Your brain and body are at WAR....they are killing off the demonic nicotine beasts, the receptors in your brain. That's why you feel like crap. As LOOT said....remember how awful the SUCK is now; learn from it and never again...
I know from personal experience that "just one" stole 20 friggin' years from me. Hang in there dude....one minute, one hour, one day at a time. You'll get there...we stick together, we'll ALL get there.
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You guys are great. Feeling pretty good today, alert, not as foggy. Not sure if the fact that I didn't chew Monday or Tuesday has anything to do with it. I didn't chew on those days not because I wanted to quit, I was just busy. But I felt it at night. Kind of hoping tonight will be a little bit easier.
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You guys are great. Feeling pretty good today, alert, not as foggy. Not sure if the fact that I didn't chew Monday or Tuesday has anything to do with it. I didn't chew on those days not because I wanted to quit, I was just busy. But I felt it at night. Kind of hoping tonight will be a little bit easier.
Flyers, the saying around here is "it sucks until it doesn't". Days 1-4 can be brutal, but you know you can always pop back on here for support! I quit with you today!
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Welcome, bro.
The first few days are "The Suck" or "The Fog" or both. I had the same deal with sleep the first few days. Woke up constantly, and sweat like mad.
You'll get through it bro. I'm PMing you my number if you need someone to shout to. Don't hesitate to text or call.
You've got this.
-Rob
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You guys are great. Feeling pretty good today, alert, not as foggy. Not sure if the fact that I didn't chew Monday or Tuesday has anything to do with it. I didn't chew on those days not because I wanted to quit, I was just busy. But I felt it at night. Kind of hoping tonight will be a little bit easier.
Flyers, the saying around here is "it sucks until it doesn't". Days 1-4 can be brutal, but you know you can always pop back on here for support! I quit with you today!
FG,
You have to own this, and I think you do. Keep your game face on this weekend, probably not a good time for alcohol this weekend, booze has killed more than a few early quits. If you need a #, PM me. I'm quit with you. Make it count!
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I was actually thinking about that. I'm relatively young, live in a big city and me and the boys usually go out on Friday/Saturday nights. I usually chew more than average while I'm drinking. None of my friends that I go out with chew. I'm guessing this weekend might be a good weekend for me to step back huh?
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I was actually thinking about that. I'm relatively young, live in a big city and me and the boys usually go out on Friday/Saturday nights. I usually chew more than average while I'm drinking. None of my friends that I go out with chew. I'm guessing this weekend might be a good weekend for me to step back huh?
Yes, give your quit time to breathe.
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I was actually thinking about that. I'm relatively young, live in a big city and me and the boys usually go out on Friday/Saturday nights. I usually chew more than average while I'm drinking. None of my friends that I go out with chew. I'm guessing this weekend might be a good weekend for me to step back huh?
Yes, give your quit time to breathe.
I think this young quitter is seeing things for what they are, better odds than most.
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I was actually thinking about that. I'm relatively young, live in a big city and me and the boys usually go out on Friday/Saturday nights. I usually chew more than average while I'm drinking. None of my friends that I go out with chew. I'm guessing this weekend might be a good weekend for me to step back huh?
Yes, give your quit time to breathe.
I think this young quitter is seeing things for what they are, better odds than most.
I'd take it easy this weekend. Old habits die hard, and addictions are a big step above that - Let that quit put down roots and have some time for you to get past the "oh shit I must have a dip NOW" craves.
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When I get home from work I'll need to get to the gym. Usually stay pretty active. I'll sweat it out in the steam room tonight.
I've decided I'll lay low but know that I won't be able to hide from going out forever. I'm realistic, not naive.
Nights out at the bar, golf on Saturday, it's all the same. One foot in front of the other. Middle finger mindset.
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When I get home from work I'll need to get to the gym. Usually stay pretty active. I'll sweat it out in the steam room tonight.
I've decided I'll lay low but know that I won't be able to hide from going out forever. I'm realistic, not naive.
Nights out at the bar, golf on Saturday, it's all the same. One foot in front of the other. Middle finger mindset.
Let me extend my welcome to you as well. You seem like you're serious about your quit. As others here have said, the first few days are going to suck. And they will continue to suck as the mind games commence. Do your best to stay active...it will really help. And cut down or quit the booze for awhile. Alcohol has killed a million quits. Check your inbox for digits.
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When I get home from work I'll need to get to the gym. Usually stay pretty active. I'll sweat it out in the steam room tonight.
I've decided I'll lay low but know that I won't be able to hide from going out forever. I'm realistic, not naive.
Nights out at the bar, golf on Saturday, it's all the same. One foot in front of the other. Middle finger mindset.
Man I miss the steam room. I moved and this gym lacks both a sauna and steam room, so it's a sad day for the bomber.
Steam room, strenuous workouts, and gallons of water make this process so much easier. It's never easy, but it is a lot harder when you're not active, sweating, or drinking water.
I really don't know what it was that drew me to your intro, but it sounds like you've got balls and are ready to quit. I PM'd you my number - use it when you're bored or fighting a crave.
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I appreciate all the suggestions and advice people have been giving me.
Came home last night and went to the gym to throw some iron around. Went for a run. Sat in the sauna and reflected a bit.
I know I am on day 3 at this point and it has not been easy but this is something I am very serious about. This is something that I have wanted for a long time. I lurked around the pages for quite a bit before I made my username and officially decided to quit.
I had a bad feeling that the path I was going down with chew wasn't somewhere that I wanted to visit. I was tired of the worry and extra stress that I was bestowing upon myself.
Was the chew really calming me down or was it just telling me to shut up and ignore common logic?
Well anyway, I slept a little better last night. Still far from normal but tonight I did not wake up in a puddle of my own sweat. I'm heading to the gym soon for another cardio/weight session.
Today will be a challenge. Golfing with the boys this afternoon. One of them dips. But I'll stand strong and move along, one foot in front of the other. I'll win in more than one way today.
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I appreciate all the suggestions and advice people have been giving me.
Came home last night and went to the gym to throw some iron around. Went for a run. Sat in the sauna and reflected a bit.
I know I am on day 3 at this point and it has not been easy but this is something I am very serious about. This is something that I have wanted for a long time. I lurked around the pages for quite a bit before I made my username and officially decided to quit.
I had a bad feeling that the path I was going down with chew wasn't somewhere that I wanted to visit. I was tired of the worry and extra stress that I was bestowing upon myself.
Was the chew really calming me down or was it just telling me to shut up and ignore common logic?
Well anyway, I slept a little better last night. Still far from normal but tonight I did not wake up in a puddle of my own sweat. I'm heading to the gym soon for another cardio/weight session.
Today will be a challenge. Golfing with the boys this afternoon. One of them dips. But I'll stand strong and move along, one foot in front of the other. I'll win in more than one way today.
I'm digging this guy and his quit. Fake dip helps me when I golf. Keep it up FG.
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I appreciate all the suggestions and advice people have been giving me.
Came home last night and went to the gym to throw some iron around. Went for a run. Sat in the sauna and reflected a bit.
I know I am on day 3 at this point and it has not been easy but this is something I am very serious about. This is something that I have wanted for a long time. I lurked around the pages for quite a bit before I made my username and officially decided to quit.
I had a bad feeling that the path I was going down with chew wasn't somewhere that I wanted to visit. I was tired of the worry and extra stress that I was bestowing upon myself.
Was the chew really calming me down or was it just telling me to shut up and ignore common logic?
Well anyway, I slept a little better last night. Still far from normal but tonight I did not wake up in a puddle of my own sweat. I'm heading to the gym soon for another cardio/weight session.
Today will be a challenge. Golfing with the boys this afternoon. One of them dips. But I'll stand strong and move along, one foot in front of the other. I'll win in more than one way today.
I'm digging this guy and his quit. Fake dip helps me when I golf. Keep it up FG.
Yeah, fake chew is definitely something to keep in your golf bag, your car, and the shitter. That's my trifecta.
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Still working on the sleeping aspect as I feel a little strung out at night. Successfully avoided boozing on the golf course yesterday. So I'm doing better than ever. Long day sitting on the couch today watching the US Open today but I'll be keeping myself busy.
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FlyersGuy,
With you on the whole sleeping thing....four nights running, 0200, BAM there I am wide awake...first two nights in a cold sweat, then just waking up....just thankful I can get back to sleep usually. Wonder when the sleep pattern is completely back to normal....
Hang tough dude, we're in this together...
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It's pretty bizarre. I just fell asleep on the couch. Every time I wake up I feel like I'm in the twilight zone or strung out. Is my body trying to repair itself? Or is my the nicotine still not out of my body yet? I don't know. I'd just like to feel rested!
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All I've read tells me that physically it's gone (the drug), but what I really believe is inside your head all those receptors used to getting (for me was a near-constant steady uptake) of nicotine are kind of mis-firing cause they're not getting it. That's the fog and the out of sorts, and the dizziness, and all that other crap...
So even though we're nicotine free, it's gonna take some time before our friggin' brains learn out to operate in that new environment. I think I read on a post somewhere from one of the vets this can be as long as three weeks. Hang tough brother, the fog will lift one day....one other post I read...."it'll suck until it doesn't"....doesn't is coming, wait for it ODAAT like all the rest of us.
In your shoes, man!
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All I've read tells me that physically it's gone (the drug), but what I really believe is inside your head all those receptors used to getting (for me was a near-constant steady uptake) of nicotine are kind of mis-firing cause they're not getting it. That's the fog and the out of sorts, and the dizziness, and all that other crap...
So even though we're nicotine free, it's gonna take some time before our friggin' brains learn out to operate in that new environment. I think I read on a post somewhere from one of the vets this can be as long as three weeks. Hang tough brother, the fog will lift one day....one other post I read...."it'll suck until it doesn't"....doesn't is coming, wait for it ODAAT like all the rest of us.
In your shoes, man!
you guys both have this,
yes it is your brain now learning to function in the absence of the poison, and yes there is a lot of people who have the messed up sleep patterns. But do take this note: allow yourself to relax, your body is fighting so give it the chance, think of it as a reward for a job well done of honoring your word.
now I use a cpap so when I quit my sleep at night was not disrupted too much but I did take quite a few 15 minute power naps during the day. they were so refreshing.
keep it up, you are throwing a shut out: your day # to the nic biotch 0