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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: jlewis1 on January 07, 2014, 02:31:00 PM
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I am JT Lewis, I quit yesterday night at around 830 after talking to a few guys on the live chat. (You guys know who you are). I was told right away to just take a leap into being quit, and I did. I don't have a special story, or anything glorious. But I'm here because I'm ready to stay quit. Today is the first actual day of being quit, and the fog of war is here. "I will be quit for today. Because tomorrow is just a dream." I will say the same tomorrow, and take it one step at a time. Thank you all for the support, and I will need you guys constantly. Thanks for reading :)
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I am JT Lewis, I quit yesterday night at around 830 after talking to a few guys on the live chat. (You guys know who you are). I was told right away to just take a leap into being quit, and I did. I don't have a special story, or anything glorious. But I'm here because I'm ready to stay quit. Today is the first actual day of being quit, and the fog of war is here. "I will be quit for today. Because tomorrow is just a dream." I will say the same tomorrow, and take it one step at a time. Thank you all for the support, and I will need you guys constantly. Thanks for reading :)
Glad to have you quit with me today. This is a very simple proven way to quit. Break the bonds of nicotine and take your freedom back.
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Great decision, JT. You're in the right place. Post roll, read all you can, and live free, brother!
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I am JT Lewis, I quit yesterday night at around 830 after talking to a few guys on the live chat. (You guys know who you are). I was told right away to just take a leap into being quit, and I did. I don't have a special story, or anything glorious. But I'm here because I'm ready to stay quit. Today is the first actual day of being quit, and the fog of war is here. "I will be quit for today. Because tomorrow is just a dream." I will say the same tomorrow, and take it one step at a time. Thank you all for the support, and I will need you guys constantly. Thanks for reading :)
Glad to have you quit with me today. This is a very simple proven way to quit. Break the bonds of nicotine and take your freedom back.
What WT says.
One day at a time...even if it means one minute at a time.
You can do this...ODAAT.
You're not alone.
Remember your Day 1...so that you will not have to do it again.
Welcome to hell...It's worth it.
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These guys preach-eth the truth. Stick to ODAAT. Guys that have been on here for 5+ years still take it ODAAT. It's the motto and the lifestyle from here on out.
Glad to have you here and I quit with you today brother!
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Hi Lewis.
So very happy to see you on here! I already like you because you gave me your word that you'd log on after your class and you did. Then you posted and now an intro. Ahhhh Hello!
Welcome to the coolest club of quitters around. This site is your lifeline to sanity and to solid and proven support and knowledge. You may get tough love every now and then but that is only because we fighting for our lives here so we are passionate about it.
Get ready to stop "trying" and just "DO" It's about today.
See you in the Chat rooms!
Ginet
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I am proud to quit with you JT.
One day at a time brother, and early its going to be one minute at a time.
Great decision man!!
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MN_Ben and JT I am right here with the both of you, lets get it done one step at a time!
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Put me in there with you too! I quit with you! April 2014 "Foolproof"
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I am JT Lewis, I quit yesterday night at around 830 after talking to a few guys on the live chat. (You guys know who you are). I was told right away to just take a leap into being quit, and I did. I don't have a special story, or anything glorious. But I'm here because I'm ready to stay quit. Today is the first actual day of being quit, and the fog of war is here. "I will be quit for today. Because tomorrow is just a dream." I will say the same tomorrow, and take it one step at a time. Thank you all for the support, and I will need you guys constantly. Thanks for reading :)
Nice. One of my favorite things about quitting nicotine today. I will be a Man of my word and stay quit with you. I like that I no longer lie about chew. I no longer swallow in conversations because I didn't expect to be talking to someone. I no longer look at someone elses empty water bottle and take it for a spitoon. I no longer fear or stress being exposed. Never worry about my wife or kids finding my hiding places for tin. I like that I don't bow down and worship nicotine.
With all that, I love being a man of my word. It is more rewarding and builds more self confidence. You may crave and want a dip. Just remember if you stay quit today, tomorrow you wont regret saying no today.
Seriously don't be deceived, freedom and victory over this vice kicks the shit out of any buzz or false pleasure you get from the nic bitch.
Its going to be difficult at times but fight and you will never regret being a quitter!
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Nice. One of my favorite things about quitting nicotine today. I will be a Man of my word and stay quit with you. I like that I no longer lie about chew. I no longer swallow in conversations because I didn't expect to be talking to someone. I no longer look at someone elses empty water bottle and take it for a spitoon. I no longer fear or stress being exposed. Never worry about my wife or kids finding my hiding places for tin. I like that I don't bow down and worship nicotine. [/QUOTE]
-------^ This is my anthem every damn day. All these things are the reasons that "just one" isn't worth it and I won't do it. I promised my quit bros and everybody on this site that I wouldn't. Not going back on that to play Russian roulette with a can of poison.
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I am JT Lewis, I quit yesterday night at around 830 after talking to a few guys on the live chat. (You guys know who you are). I was told right away to just take a leap into being quit, and I did. I don't have a special story, or anything glorious. But I'm here because I'm ready to stay quit. Today is the first actual day of being quit, and the fog of war is here. "I will be quit for today. Because tomorrow is just a dream." I will say the same tomorrow, and take it one step at a time. Thank you all for the support, and I will need you guys constantly. Thanks for reading :)
Nice. One of my favorite things about quitting nicotine today. I will be a Man of my word and stay quit with you. I like that I no longer lie about chew. I no longer swallow in conversations because I didn't expect to be talking to someone. I no longer look at someone elses empty water bottle and take it for a spitoon. I no longer fear or stress being exposed. Never worry about my wife or kids finding my hiding places for tin. I like that I don't bow down and worship nicotine.
With all that, I love being a man of my word. It is more rewarding and builds more self confidence. You may crave and want a dip. Just remember if you stay quit today, tomorrow you wont regret saying no today.
Seriously don't be deceived, freedom and victory over this vice kicks the shit out of any buzz or false pleasure you get from the nic bitch.
Its going to be difficult at times but fight and you will never regret being a quitter!
I love this! Thank you guys! Sorry it took so long to come back to my intro. Haha I'm doing well, and in an hour I'll be starting day 3! Props to ginet for getting me her, and everyone who is rooting for me. It helps me out when I'm having a bad day. I look through posts, and also see the quit group page for inspiration. You guys a my lifeline! QlfEDD!!!
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Hi Lewis.
So very happy to see you on here! I already like you because you gave me your word that you'd log on after your class and you did. Then you posted and now an intro. Ahhhh Hello!
Welcome to the coolest club of quitters around. This site is your lifeline to sanity and to solid and proven support and knowledge. You may get tough love every now and then but that is only because we fighting for our lives here so we are passionate about it.
Get ready to stop "trying" and just "DO" It's about today.
See you in the Chat rooms!
Ginet
Thank you x 5,000,000,000!
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We'll guys. I'm back. No words can express the pain and ashamed feelings I've had since I left. Thank God for people who kept me accountable. (Mn_ben). Today is they day I take it to another level. With the help of new people, and old friends, I posted day 5 today. Be as mean as you'd like. I deserve it. I let the bitch get me. I will be posting role, and weaving an even bigger web of accountability for my quit . Join me brothers!
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Moved to this thread so they are not lost in the roll thread
Hey guys.. I'm on day 5. After a cave 12 days in with the April group.
I'm not proud of it. Say what you will. But I would appreciate some understanding, because this time is different.
1) what happened?
I was sideswiped with an offer of a dip from a "friend". He was oblivious of my quit.
Which is ultimately my fault.
2) why did it happen?
It happened because I was complacent. I did not stop and think about how far along I was, and how much better off I was without nic.
3) what will be different this time?
This time, I've told everyone I know that I quit. I told people to respect my wishes, and to also not dip around me. I am also a lot stronger than last time. Will prove it to you.
Again, I am sorry brothers. It will not happen again.
Any questions, please just pm me. I probably will not see replies here, unless they are in my inbox.
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1) what happened?
I was sideswiped with an offer of a dip from a "friend". He was oblivious of my quit.
Which is ultimately my fault.
BS
2) why did it happen?
It happened because I was complacent. I did not stop and think about how far along I was, and how much better off I was without nic.
Complacent after 12 days do you want to be quit? We quit only once!
3) what will be different this time?
This time, I've told everyone I know that I quit. I told people to respect my wishes, and to also not dip around me. I am also a lot stronger than last time. Will prove it to you.
Again, I am sorry brothers. It will not happen again.
Any questions, please just pm me. I probably will not see replies here, unless they are in my inbox.
Nice try to keep this out of your thread. You want accountability but you want responses sent to your PM so you don't have to see the responses publicly. You have to slam the door on her you cant leave the door cracked.
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I am not the sharpest pencil in the cup, jlewis, so I am confused. Are the three questions appearing under Traumanet's username some how your responses to the three questions? Why are they not posted under your name? Are you some how posting them via PM? Like the only guys relying on your roll and caring about your quit were those you PM or texted with? We had the same 1/6/14 quit date. I look for the five souls that quit that day everyday in roll. Ya, it might seem strange but I felt like that was a group with in the April group. It was the people that chose to take control of their lives the same day I did. I reached out to you as soon as I saw you missed roll, never got a response, maybe I should have reached out sooner. I saw you posted roll yesterday, came to your intro and found nothing. Came back to check this morning and found what I found which as I already stated somewhat confuses me. PM me your questions? Why so you cannot reply again? You ended with "Join Me Brothers"....we never left you, you left us. Join us brother! Commit to your quit. I would like to understand this better. I would like to feel like YOU have answered the questions not your surrogate. I would like to quit with you.
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I am not the sharpest pencil in the cup, jlewis, so I am confused. Are the three questions appearing under Traumanet's username some how your responses to the three questions? Why are they not posted under your name? Are you some how posting them via PM? Like the only guys relying on your roll and caring about your quit were those you PM or texted with? We had the same 1/6/14 quit date. I look for the five souls that quit that day everyday in roll. Ya, it might seem strange but I felt like that was a group with in the April group. It was the people that chose to take control of their lives the same day I did. I reached out to you as soon as I saw you missed roll, never got a response, maybe I should have reached out sooner. I saw you posted roll yesterday, came to your intro and found nothing. Came back to check this morning and found what I found which as I already stated somewhat confuses me. PM me your questions? Why so you cannot reply again? You ended with "Join Me Brothers"....we never left you, you left us. Join us brother! Commit to your quit. I would like to understand this better. I would like to feel like YOU have answered the questions not your surrogate. I would like to quit with you.
I moved them to his thread so they would not be lost in the roll thread.
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I am not the sharpest pencil in the cup, jlewis, so I am confused. Are the three questions appearing under Traumanet's username some how your responses to the three questions? Why are they not posted under your name? Are you some how posting them via PM? Like the only guys relying on your roll and caring about your quit were those you PM or texted with? We had the same 1/6/14 quit date. I look for the five souls that quit that day everyday in roll. Ya, it might seem strange but I felt like that was a group with in the April group. It was the people that chose to take control of their lives the same day I did. I reached out to you as soon as I saw you missed roll, never got a response, maybe I should have reached out sooner. I saw you posted roll yesterday, came to your intro and found nothing. Came back to check this morning and found what I found which as I already stated somewhat confuses me. PM me your questions? Why so you cannot reply again? You ended with "Join Me Brothers"....we never left you, you left us. Join us brother! Commit to your quit. I would like to understand this better. I would like to feel like YOU have answered the questions not your surrogate. I would like to quit with you.
I moved them to his thread so they would not be lost in the roll thread.
Thanks, I missed that on the first read of your post Trauma....again not the sharpest pencil....
I stand by the rest of my comments JT, and really hope you take a serious look at what happened. You have to own your quit. My girlfriend txt me to pick her a pack of smokes two days ago on my way home.....I felt betrayed, like she was asking an alcoholic to stop at the liquor store and pick up a bottle of Jack. Something she asked me to do a hundred times in the three years we have lived together, but the first time since I quit using nic. I picked them up for her, I am not going to avoid convenience stores for the rest of my life. It was not intentional, and she knew of my quit (hell she's tolerated my assholeness the past three weeks); but the fact that I did not put a can in my pocket two nights ago had nothing to do with her. No one can sideswipe you, you can only kid yourself and cave to your own mind games. Telling people you have quit is good and provides additional accountability, especially if you care about those people, but the quit comes from within. I hope you stick around and remain quit, but I really think you need to look into why you caved a bit deeper, I think it is more internal than external. "Oops, forgot to tell that guy and he offered me a dip....back to Day 1?" I think you have a lot of Day 1's in your future if that is your only plan. Again, I quit with you, will you quit with us?
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JT, when you get it together please post your quit plan here. ok to also post in your HOF group as well.
No more half-assed, wishful attempts. You have now started an actual quit. One day at a time.
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I am not the sharpest pencil in the cup, jlewis, so I am confused. Are the three questions appearing under Traumanet's username some how your responses to the three questions? Why are they not posted under your name? Are you some how posting them via PM? Like the only guys relying on your roll and caring about your quit were those you PM or texted with? We had the same 1/6/14 quit date. I look for the five souls that quit that day everyday in roll. Ya, it might seem strange but I felt like that was a group with in the April group. It was the people that chose to take control of their lives the same day I did. I reached out to you as soon as I saw you missed roll, never got a response, maybe I should have reached out sooner. I saw you posted roll yesterday, came to your intro and found nothing. Came back to check this morning and found what I found which as I already stated somewhat confuses me. PM me your questions? Why so you cannot reply again? You ended with "Join Me Brothers"....we never left you, you left us. Join us brother! Commit to your quit. I would like to understand this better. I would like to feel like YOU have answered the questions not your surrogate. I would like to quit with you.
I moved them to his thread so they would not be lost in the roll thread.
Thanks, I missed that on the first read of your post Trauma....again not the sharpest pencil....
I stand by the rest of my comments JT, and really hope you take a serious look at what happened. You have to own your quit. My girlfriend txt me to pick her a pack of smokes two days ago on my way home.....I felt betrayed, like she was asking an alcoholic to stop at the liquor store and pick up a bottle of Jack. Something she asked me to do a hundred times in the three years we have lived together, but the first time since I quit using nic. I picked them up for her, I am not going to avoid convenience stores for the rest of my life. It was not intentional, and she knew of my quit (hell she's tolerated my assholeness the past three weeks); but the fact that I did not put a can in my pocket two nights ago had nothing to do with her. No one can sideswipe you, you can only kid yourself and cave to your own mind games. Telling people you have quit is good and provides additional accountability, especially if you care about those people, but the quit comes from within. I hope you stick around and remain quit, but I really think you need to look into why you caved a bit deeper, I think it is more internal than external. "Oops, forgot to tell that guy and he offered me a dip....back to Day 1?" I think you have a lot of Day 1's in your future if that is your only plan. Again, I quit with you, will you quit with us?
Solid advice SAM83. Jlewis1, I hope you take it....correction, DO take it. It will save you. By all means form a quit group within your quit group. I look for my fellow April 2014 quitters that started their quit (new life) on the same day as I did (1/10/14) every single day on roll.
Havoc, K9 Seducer, Knockout, ssever122, SpencerF
I scrutinize the roll call list for these folks every day and reach out if they miss roll even a single day. They are no more important that my other quit brother in April, or the vets that I correspond with on this forum, but they represent the inner circle of my quit, if only by date association. I may not be able to look out for all 77 of my April quit brothers all of the time, but I can look out for these few every day.
Just part of the network of accountability that SAM83 refers to.
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waiting for lewis...mr j lewis...
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Nice try to keep this out of your thread. You want accountability but you want responses sent to your PM so you don't have to see the responses publicly. You have to slam the door on her you cant leave the door cracked.
I was not intentionally keeping my answers out of my thread. I just thought of posting in my intro thread again a day ago. give me a break. im still new at this.
1) what happened?
I was sideswiped with an offer of a dip from a "friend". He was oblivious of my quit.
Which is ultimately my fault.
BS
What part? because all I see is admission of the ultimate fault. If it's not my fault, then who the hecks fault is it? (that is accountability).
2) why did it happen?
It happened because I was complacent. I did not stop and think about how far along I was, and how much better off I was without nic.
Complacent after 12 days do you want to be quit? We quit only once!
Yes, I was complacent. keyword: was, emphasis on the past tense. Unless im being fooled, many people fail (even before comming here). So unless you are God, or some higher power, you've quit more than once.
I am not avoiding accountability, because I am open to talking to you guys, about this. I admit that I am not perfect. NOR will I ever be.
---To Be Continued---
I have things to do before my class.
I will answer people back, just be patient.
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Nice try to keep this out of your thread. You want accountability but you want responses sent to your PM so you don't have to see the responses publicly. You have to slam the door on her you cant leave the door cracked.
I was not intentionally keeping my answers out of my thread. I just thought of posting in my intro thread again a day ago. give me a break. im still new at this.
1) what happened?
I was sideswiped with an offer of a dip from a "friend". He was oblivious of my quit.
Which is ultimately my fault.
BS
What part? because all I see is admission of the ultimate fault. If it's not my fault, then who the hecks fault is it? (that is accountability).
2) why did it happen?
It happened because I was complacent. I did not stop and think about how far along I was, and how much better off I was without nic.
Complacent after 12 days do you want to be quit? We quit only once!
Yes, I was complacent. keyword: was, emphasis on the past tense. Unless im being fooled, many people fail (even before comming here). So unless you are God, or some higher power, you've quit more than once.
I am not avoiding accountability, because I am open to talking to you guys, about this. I admit that I am not perfect. NOR will I ever be.
---To Be Continued---
I have things to do before my class.
I will answer people back, just be patient.
Look, man, here's the thing: you're going to be around nicotine for the rest of your life and it's nearly always going to be within a proverbial arm's reach. C stores, friends, coworkers, ballgames, whatever. Nic will always be within reach. You're doomed to a life of addiction if you don't have the balls to stand up to it right now. Right now as in, draw a line in the fucking sand and say no more. In other words: QUIT.
Each morning you gotta post roll with your group and say "DAY X - I won't have nic today for any reason". Then, get prepared for life to throw shit at your plan, because guess what: things don't always go according to plan.
Quitting is acknowledging that from now on you're running a gauntlet and that you're gonna be attacked from all sides, be it excuses to have just one because of a good time or excuses to have just one because of a bad time.
I didn't "get" KTC at first. I caved, too, but I stuck around, got back on the horse, and started drinking the kool aid. I hope you do the same. What you're doing right now (staying engaged and having KTC show you TRUTH) is what you need to do. Fight it if you want, argue if you want. In the end they will show you flaws in your thinking and it will HELP YOU. So stick around, keep talking, and get your head straight.
PM me if you want another layer of accountability.
NTFAR
ODAAT
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I am not the sharpest pencil in the cup, jlewis, so I am confused. Are the three questions appearing under Traumanet's username some how your responses to the three questions? Why are they not posted under your name? Are you some how posting them via PM? Like the only guys relying on your roll and caring about your quit were those you PM or texted with? We had the same 1/6/14 quit date. I look for the five souls that quit that day everyday in roll. Ya, it might seem strange but I felt like that was a group with in the April group. It was the people that chose to take control of their lives the same day I did. I reached out to you as soon as I saw you missed roll, never got a response, maybe I should have reached out sooner. I saw you posted roll yesterday, came to your intro and found nothing. Came back to check this morning and found what I found which as I already stated somewhat confuses me. PM me your questions? Why so you cannot reply again? You ended with "Join Me Brothers"....we never left you, you left us. Join us brother! Commit to your quit. I would like to understand this better. I would like to feel like YOU have answered the questions not your surrogate. I would like to quit with you.
I moved them to his thread so they would not be lost in the roll thread.
Thanks, I missed that on the first read of your post Trauma....again not the sharpest pencil....
I stand by the rest of my comments JT, and really hope you take a serious look at what happened. You have to own your quit. My girlfriend txt me to pick her a pack of smokes two days ago on my way home.....I felt betrayed, like she was asking an alcoholic to stop at the liquor store and pick up a bottle of Jack. Something she asked me to do a hundred times in the three years we have lived together, but the first time since I quit using nic. I picked them up for her, I am not going to avoid convenience stores for the rest of my life. It was not intentional, and she knew of my quit (hell she's tolerated my assholeness the past three weeks); but the fact that I did not put a can in my pocket two nights ago had nothing to do with her. No one can sideswipe you, you can only kid yourself and cave to your own mind games. Telling people you have quit is good and provides additional accountability, especially if you care about those people, but the quit comes from within. I hope you stick around and remain quit, but I really think you need to look into why you caved a bit deeper, I think it is more internal than external. "Oops, forgot to tell that guy and he offered me a dip....back to Day 1?" I think you have a lot of Day 1's in your future if that is your only plan. Again, I quit with you, will you quit with us?
Ok, so there was a lot said here, and I will try to do my best to answer everything.
Yes those are responses to the 3 questions.
They are posted under my name in both May 2014, and April 2014. I did not think to put them here. So I am not avoiding it if that's what your saying.
I like your ideas that you just posted here, and I am doing a better job of keeping in contact with people. I have sent messages to everyone in the May group, and added each in a contact list as they respond.
(which is in my quit plan I will post later tonight before I retire)
I do not check my email regularity.
It is my fault for not making a plan the first time
as far as the statement "no one can sideswipe you." I dissagree fully. Think about it. If you don't plan ahead, yes you can be sideswiped at any moment.
Mind games hurt my head. So there aren't any mind games of any sort going on in my head.
There was not a plan, so I failed.
I realize that. That is what I am trying to convey to you guys.
There really isn't any deeper meaning to why I caved.
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I am not the sharpest pencil in the cup, jlewis, so I am confused. Are the three questions appearing under Traumanet's username some how your responses to the three questions? Why are they not posted under your name? Are you some how posting them via PM? Like the only guys relying on your roll and caring about your quit were those you PM or texted with? We had the same 1/6/14 quit date. I look for the five souls that quit that day everyday in roll. Ya, it might seem strange but I felt like that was a group with in the April group. It was the people that chose to take control of their lives the same day I did. I reached out to you as soon as I saw you missed roll, never got a response, maybe I should have reached out sooner. I saw you posted roll yesterday, came to your intro and found nothing. Came back to check this morning and found what I found which as I already stated somewhat confuses me. PM me your questions? Why so you cannot reply again? You ended with "Join Me Brothers"....we never left you, you left us. Join us brother! Commit to your quit. I would like to understand this better. I would like to feel like YOU have answered the questions not your surrogate. I would like to quit with you.
I moved them to his thread so they would not be lost in the roll thread.
Thanks, I missed that on the first read of your post Trauma....again not the sharpest pencil....
I stand by the rest of my comments JT, and really hope you take a serious look at what happened. You have to own your quit. My girlfriend txt me to pick her a pack of smokes two days ago on my way home.....I felt betrayed, like she was asking an alcoholic to stop at the liquor store and pick up a bottle of Jack. Something she asked me to do a hundred times in the three years we have lived together, but the first time since I quit using nic. I picked them up for her, I am not going to avoid convenience stores for the rest of my life. It was not intentional, and she knew of my quit (hell she's tolerated my assholeness the past three weeks); but the fact that I did not put a can in my pocket two nights ago had nothing to do with her. No one can sideswipe you, you can only kid yourself and cave to your own mind games. Telling people you have quit is good and provides additional accountability, especially if you care about those people, but the quit comes from within. I hope you stick around and remain quit, but I really think you need to look into why you caved a bit deeper, I think it is more internal than external. "Oops, forgot to tell that guy and he offered me a dip....back to Day 1?" I think you have a lot of Day 1's in your future if that is your only plan. Again, I quit with you, will you quit with us?
Ok, so there was a lot said here, and I will try to do my best to answer everything.
Yes those are responses to the 3 questions.
They are posted under my name in both May 2014, and April 2014. I did not think to put them here. So I am not avoiding it if that's what your saying.
I like your ideas that you just posted here, and I am doing a better job of keeping in contact with people. I have sent messages to everyone in the May group, and added each in a contact list as they respond.
(which is in my quit plan I will post later tonight before I retire)
I do not check my email regularity.
It is my fault for not making a plan the first time
as far as the statement "no one can sideswipe you." I dissagree fully. Think about it. If you don't plan ahead, yes you can be sideswiped at any moment.
Mind games hurt my head. So there aren't any mind games of any sort going on in my head.
There was not a plan, so I failed.
I realize that. That is what I am trying to convey to you guys.
There really isn't any deeper meaning to why I caved.
You wanna know how someone can be sideswiped? Just look in the fucking mirror dude.
Don't put yourself in positions where you could cave.
Have a documented protocol to follow before you can cave.
Mine includes smashing my dick with a hammer before I am allowed to dip.
It is either all-in or all-out here. Half-assed quitters equals half-assed "quits" equals slave to the nic bitch AGAIN.
You decide. Do you wanna stay quit? We have already established that your way doesn't work. Why not quit with this one?
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I am not the sharpest pencil in the cup, jlewis, so I am confused. Are the three questions appearing under Traumanet's username some how your responses to the three questions? Why are they not posted under your name? Are you some how posting them via PM? Like the only guys relying on your roll and caring about your quit were those you PM or texted with? We had the same 1/6/14 quit date. I look for the five souls that quit that day everyday in roll. Ya, it might seem strange but I felt like that was a group with in the April group. It was the people that chose to take control of their lives the same day I did. I reached out to you as soon as I saw you missed roll, never got a response, maybe I should have reached out sooner. I saw you posted roll yesterday, came to your intro and found nothing. Came back to check this morning and found what I found which as I already stated somewhat confuses me. PM me your questions? Why so you cannot reply again? You ended with "Join Me Brothers"....we never left you, you left us. Join us brother! Commit to your quit. I would like to understand this better. I would like to feel like YOU have answered the questions not your surrogate. I would like to quit with you.
I moved them to his thread so they would not be lost in the roll thread.
Thanks, I missed that on the first read of your post Trauma....again not the sharpest pencil....
I stand by the rest of my comments JT, and really hope you take a serious look at what happened. You have to own your quit. My girlfriend txt me to pick her a pack of smokes two days ago on my way home.....I felt betrayed, like she was asking an alcoholic to stop at the liquor store and pick up a bottle of Jack. Something she asked me to do a hundred times in the three years we have lived together, but the first time since I quit using nic. I picked them up for her, I am not going to avoid convenience stores for the rest of my life. It was not intentional, and she knew of my quit (hell she's tolerated my assholeness the past three weeks); but the fact that I did not put a can in my pocket two nights ago had nothing to do with her. No one can sideswipe you, you can only kid yourself and cave to your own mind games. Telling people you have quit is good and provides additional accountability, especially if you care about those people, but the quit comes from within. I hope you stick around and remain quit, but I really think you need to look into why you caved a bit deeper, I think it is more internal than external. "Oops, forgot to tell that guy and he offered me a dip....back to Day 1?" I think you have a lot of Day 1's in your future if that is your only plan. Again, I quit with you, will you quit with us?
Ok, so there was a lot said here, and I will try to do my best to answer everything.
Yes those are responses to the 3 questions.
They are posted under my name in both May 2014, and April 2014. I did not think to put them here. So I am not avoiding it if that's what your saying.
I like your ideas that you just posted here, and I am doing a better job of keeping in contact with people. I have sent messages to everyone in the May group, and added each in a contact list as they respond.
(which is in my quit plan I will post later tonight before I retire)
I do not check my email regularity.
It is my fault for not making a plan the first time
as far as the statement "no one can sideswipe you." I dissagree fully. Think about it. If you don't plan ahead, yes you can be sideswiped at any moment.
Mind games hurt my head. So there aren't any mind games of any sort going on in my head.
There was not a plan, so I failed.
I realize that. That is what I am trying to convey to you guys.
There really isn't any deeper meaning to why I caved.
You wanna know how someone can be sideswiped? Just look in the fucking mirror dude.
Don't put yourself in positions where you could cave.
Have a documented protocol to follow before you can cave.
Mine includes smashing my dick with a hammer before I am allowed to dip.
It is either all-in or all-out here. Half-assed quitters equals half-assed "quits" equals slave to the nic bitch AGAIN.
You decide. Do you wanna stay quit? We have already established that your way doesn't work. Why not quit with this one?
Not your fault... Huh. Well who's fault is it that you caved and had no plan? News flash -- it is your fault!
No deeper meaning to why you caved... Based on your answers you don't appear to want it bad enough.
Do you want to be quit or are you just giving it a go?
I can tell you that the only way it will work is if you want it more than anything. You can not half ass this thing. You either go after it and be quit or you continue to use and cave.
Which is it?
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You wanna know how someone can be sideswiped? Just look in the fucking mirror dude.
Don't put yourself in positions where you could cave.
Have a documented protocol to follow before you can cave.
Mine includes smashing my dick with a hammer before I am allowed to dip.
It is either all-in or all-out here. Half-assed quitters equals half-assed "quits" equals slave to the nic bitch AGAIN.
You decide. Do you wanna stay quit? We have already established that your way doesn't work. Why not quit with this one? [/QUOTE]
Not your fault... Huh. Well who's fault is it that you caved and had no plan? News flash -- it is your fault!
No deeper meaning to why you caved... Based on your answers you don't appear to want it bad enough.
Do you want to be quit or are you just giving it a go?
I can tell you that the only way it will work is if you want it more than anything. You can not half ass this thing. You either go after it and be quit or you continue to use and cave.
Which is it?
Your obviously not reading what I'm saying... But I like the protocol idea.
Next, did I even say it wasn't my fault I caved? Hell fucking No. Actually "read" my posts prior this one, or don't post on my thread. Thanks :)
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For some reason I misread your underlined part and saw NOT your fault. My bad.
Guess when I read it I just didn't believe you. Or I need reading glasses.
Good luck. Hope you quit better than I can read.
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I believe the strength to quit nic everyday ultimately comes from within. Others knowing is us building a web of accountibiltiy....it helps to be accountable to others. If we are men of honor, our word means something. So if we give it (our word) and we are honorable then it helps us to hold ourselves accountable (keep our word)
I stand by my comments and I believe in what I said. Consider the advice, consider the spirit in which it is given and adjust your plan. I hope to see you post roll everyday ODAAT. Saw/read some pretty rough shit with caves this past week or so and it is not my intention to bust your balls, and hopefully Derk immediate acknowledgment of his misunderstanding ultimately demonstrates the spirit in which advice is given.
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I like you.
You like to fight.
I like that in a quitter.
Now, focus that rage away from these guys (that are trying to help you be free), and focus it on yourself and that weed you used to shove in your lip.
No matter how much you think you're right, your 3 answers were bullshit. You started making headway when you wrote "It is my fault for not making a plan the first time", but then you stopped short.
Ultimately, the 3 questions asked of you don't mean anything to us. They are to help you grow and to help you stay quit. Watch:
What happened?--I came here to quit in 2006. I posted roll for the first 100 days or so, and then faded away. In 2009, I hadn't posted roll in a long time but was still stopped. I got drunk and bummed a chew. Within a few months, I was worse off than before.
Why did it happen?--I forgot I was an addict. I thought I could use just one. I chose to use.
What are you doing differently this time?--I post roll everyday (945 for 945). I have tons of numbers in my phone, and I reach out to people regularly. Even though it's not as hard as it once was, I stay active. Most days it is easy to stay quit, but that doesn't mean that I'm cured. As chewie says "We are all $5 and a bad decision away from day 1". I can never forget again.
You see, my 3 answers are completely different than your 3 answers. They don't hurt to type. They are my badge I wear. Fools learn from their mistakes; wisemen learn from anothers'. Dumbasses keep repeating.
My cave was because of complacency. Yours was due to somebody "offering" it. (Do you see why we are concerned? That's weak.) You can't avoid tobacco the rest of your life. You need to grow balls and refuse that shit. It's the difference between being "quit" and "not using". I actively say no, and I yell it from the mountaintops. If somebody doesn't know I'm quit, I tell them.
The great thing about accountability is that it is a two way system. I need these quitters around me just like they need me. I can't just demand their support while brushing off their advice. That's not the way it works. My plan involves posting here as step one. I read the advice doled out here, and I use that advice in my personal quit plan. I ask questions when I need to. I alert others when I'm in trouble.
It's all great that you like to fight, but please stop thinking you got all the answers. You're going to end up flailing and failing if you don't. Stop. Breathe. Focus. We're here to help whether you want to hear it or not.
Now, we all know what happened. You chose to use tobacco. We all know why it happened. You are an addict that chose to use. But, what you have to learn is that tobacco is no longer an option to you this moment. Fuck the future. Fuck the past. Wen you quit, you made a decision to be quit. Make that decision again right now. Do it again....and again. You see? Quitting is not just one decision. It is a series of them. Sure, you can post roll, carry seeds, gum, etc., but if you can't make that decision it's all for naught.
You can do this, and you can be part of this team.
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I like you.
You like to fight.
I like that in a quitter.
Now, focus that rage away from these guys (that are trying to help you be free), and focus it on yourself and that weed you used to shove in your lip.
No matter how much you think you're right, your 3 answers were bullshit. You started making headway when you wrote "It is my fault for not making a plan the first time", but then you stopped short.
Ultimately, the 3 questions asked of you don't mean anything to us. They are to help you grow and to help you stay quit. Watch:
What happened?--I came here to quit in 2006. I posted roll for the first 100 days or so, and then faded away. In 2009, I hadn't posted roll in a long time but was still stopped. I got drunk and bummed a chew. Within a few months, I was worse off than before.
Why did it happen?--I forgot I was an addict. I thought I could use just one. I chose to use.
What are you doing differently this time?--I post roll everyday (945 for 945). I have tons of numbers in my phone, and I reach out to people regularly. Even though it's not as hard as it once was, I stay active. Most days it is easy to stay quit, but that doesn't mean that I'm cured. As chewie says "We are all $5 and a bad decision away from day 1". I can never forget again.
You see, my 3 answers are completely different than your 3 answers. They don't hurt to type. They are my badge I wear. Fools learn from their mistakes; wisemen learn from anothers'. Dumbasses keep repeating.
My cave was because of complacency. Yours was due to somebody "offering" it. (Do you see why we are concerned? That's weak.) You can't avoid tobacco the rest of your life. You need to grow balls and refuse that shit. It's the difference between being "quit" and "not using". I actively say no, and I yell it from the mountaintops. If somebody doesn't know I'm quit, I tell them.
The great thing about accountability is that it is a two way system. I need these quitters around me just like they need me. I can't just demand their support while brushing off their advice. That's not the way it works. My plan involves posting here as step one. I read the advice doled out here, and I use that advice in my personal quit plan. I ask questions when I need to. I alert others when I'm in trouble.
It's all great that you like to fight, but please stop thinking you got all the answers. You're going to end up flailing and failing if you don't. Stop. Breathe. Focus. We're here to help whether you want to hear it or not.
Now, we all know what happened. You chose to use tobacco. We all know why it happened. You are an addict that chose to use. But, what you have to learn is that tobacco is no longer an option to you this moment. Fuck the future. Fuck the past. Wen you quit, you made a decision to be quit. Make that decision again right now. Do it again....and again. You see? Quitting is not just one decision. It is a series of them. Sure, you can post roll, carry seeds, gum, etc., but if you can't make that decision it's all for naught.
You can do this, and you can be part of this team.
I am on day 1146. I stick around and help people so I can read things like what Wastepanel just wrote. He is exactly right.
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I like you.
You like to fight.
I like that in a quitter.
Now, focus that rage away from these guys (that are trying to help you be free), and focus it on yourself and that weed you used to shove in your lip.Â
No matter how much you think you're right, your 3 answers were bullshit. You started making headway when you wrote "It is my fault for not making a plan the first time", but then you stopped short.
Ultimately, the 3 questions asked of you don't mean anything to us. They are to help you grow and to help you stay quit. Watch:
What happened?--I came here to quit in 2006. I posted roll for the first 100 days or so, and then faded away. In 2009, I hadn't posted roll in a long time but was still stopped. I got drunk and bummed a chew. Within a few months, I was worse off than before.
Why did it happen?--I forgot I was an addict. I thought I could use just one. I chose to use.
What are you doing differently this time?--I post roll everyday (945 for 945). I have tons of numbers in my phone, and I reach out to people regularly. Even though it's not as hard as it once was, I stay active. Most days it is easy to stay quit, but that doesn't mean that I'm cured. As chewie says "We are all $5 and a bad decision away from day 1". I can never forget again.
You see, my 3 answers are completely different than your 3 answers. They don't hurt to type. They are my badge I wear. Fools learn from their mistakes; wisemen learn from anothers'. Dumbasses keep repeating.
My cave was because of complacency. Yours was due to somebody "offering" it. (Do you see why we are concerned? That's weak.) You can't avoid tobacco the rest of your life. You need to grow balls and refuse that shit. It's the difference between being "quit" and "not using". I actively say no, and I yell it from the mountaintops. If somebody doesn't know I'm quit, I tell them.
The great thing about accountability is that it is a two way system. I need these quitters around me just like they need me. I can't just demand their support while brushing off their advice. That's not the way it works. My plan involves posting here as step one. I read the advice doled out here, and I use that advice in my personal quit plan. I ask questions when I need to. I alert others when I'm in trouble.
It's all great that you like to fight, but please stop thinking you got all the answers. You're going to end up flailing and failing if you don't. Stop. Breathe. Focus. We're here to help whether you want to hear it or not.
Now, we all know what happened. You chose to use tobacco. We all know why it happened. You are an addict that chose to use. But, what you have to learn is that tobacco is no longer an option to you this moment. Fuck the future. Fuck the past. Wen you quit, you made a decision to be quit. Make that decision again right now. Do it again....and again. You see? Quitting is not just one decision. It is a series of them. Sure, you can post roll, carry seeds, gum, etc., but if you can't make that decision it's all for naught.
You can do this, and you can be part of this team.
I am on day 1146. I stick around and help people so I can read things like what Wastepanel just wrote. He is exactly right.
this is pure gold waste....
everyone should have a read as this is not only for those who cave, but a great education for one self .
that is the 3 questions, it is to make you take a look inside yourself and really set something in concrete as to how you as a person will proceed.
So you fell, so what. Its the getting back up that will define you. Define it well....
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I like you.
You like to fight.
I like that in a quitter.
Now, focus that rage away from these guys (that are trying to help you be free), and focus it on yourself and that weed you used to shove in your lip.Â
No matter how much you think you're right, your 3 answers were bullshit. You started making headway when you wrote "It is my fault for not making a plan the first time", but then you stopped short.
Ultimately, the 3 questions asked of you don't mean anything to us. They are to help you grow and to help you stay quit. Watch:
What happened?--I came here to quit in 2006. I posted roll for the first 100 days or so, and then faded away. In 2009, I hadn't posted roll in a long time but was still stopped. I got drunk and bummed a chew. Within a few months, I was worse off than before.
Why did it happen?--I forgot I was an addict. I thought I could use just one. I chose to use.
What are you doing differently this time?--I post roll everyday (945 for 945). I have tons of numbers in my phone, and I reach out to people regularly. Even though it's not as hard as it once was, I stay active. Most days it is easy to stay quit, but that doesn't mean that I'm cured. As chewie says "We are all $5 and a bad decision away from day 1". I can never forget again.
You see, my 3 answers are completely different than your 3 answers. They don't hurt to type. They are my badge I wear. Fools learn from their mistakes; wisemen learn from anothers'. Dumbasses keep repeating.
My cave was because of complacency. Yours was due to somebody "offering" it. (Do you see why we are concerned? That's weak.) You can't avoid tobacco the rest of your life. You need to grow balls and refuse that shit. It's the difference between being "quit" and "not using". I actively say no, and I yell it from the mountaintops. If somebody doesn't know I'm quit, I tell them.
The great thing about accountability is that it is a two way system. I need these quitters around me just like they need me. I can't just demand their support while brushing off their advice. That's not the way it works. My plan involves posting here as step one. I read the advice doled out here, and I use that advice in my personal quit plan. I ask questions when I need to. I alert others when I'm in trouble.
It's all great that you like to fight, but please stop thinking you got all the answers. You're going to end up flailing and failing if you don't. Stop. Breathe. Focus. We're here to help whether you want to hear it or not.
Now, we all know what happened. You chose to use tobacco. We all know why it happened. You are an addict that chose to use. But, what you have to learn is that tobacco is no longer an option to you this moment. Fuck the future. Fuck the past. Wen you quit, you made a decision to be quit. Make that decision again right now. Do it again....and again. You see? Quitting is not just one decision. It is a series of them. Sure, you can post roll, carry seeds, gum, etc., but if you can't make that decision it's all for naught.
You can do this, and you can be part of this team.
I love to fight. It is who I am, and how I will live my life till the day I die.
You all are right in one way or another. I have realized this.
Thank you wastepanel, SAM, T-cell and others.
I will attempt another go at the three questions once I have thoroughly contemplated them. I guess that's just what I need to do.
So for those of you who want to see my plan:
1. Give better answers to 3 questions.
2. Be as active as I can on the site
3. Take a role. (I have taken a role already in May, and I am learning the Spreadsheet.)
4. Sign a contract before I can cave, to slam my nuts in a drawer, and then tie them to a door knob with fishing line, sit down somewhat far away, and have someone slam that door as hard as they can.
5. reach out to newbies, as I see them post their first days.
6. get all the numbers of my fellow May 14 group, and numbers of vets once they feel I am a badass quitter.
Suggestions? comments?
-
I like you.
You like to fight.
I like that in a quitter.
Now, focus that rage away from these guys (that are trying to help you be free), and focus it on yourself and that weed you used to shove in your lip.Â
No matter how much you think you're right, your 3 answers were bullshit. You started making headway when you wrote "It is my fault for not making a plan the first time", but then you stopped short.
Ultimately, the 3 questions asked of you don't mean anything to us. They are to help you grow and to help you stay quit. Watch:
What happened?--I came here to quit in 2006. I posted roll for the first 100 days or so, and then faded away. In 2009, I hadn't posted roll in a long time but was still stopped. I got drunk and bummed a chew. Within a few months, I was worse off than before.
Why did it happen?--I forgot I was an addict. I thought I could use just one. I chose to use.
What are you doing differently this time?--I post roll everyday (945 for 945). I have tons of numbers in my phone, and I reach out to people regularly. Even though it's not as hard as it once was, I stay active. Most days it is easy to stay quit, but that doesn't mean that I'm cured. As chewie says "We are all $5 and a bad decision away from day 1". I can never forget again.
You see, my 3 answers are completely different than your 3 answers. They don't hurt to type. They are my badge I wear. Fools learn from their mistakes; wisemen learn from anothers'. Dumbasses keep repeating.
My cave was because of complacency. Yours was due to somebody "offering" it. (Do you see why we are concerned? That's weak.) You can't avoid tobacco the rest of your life. You need to grow balls and refuse that shit. It's the difference between being "quit" and "not using". I actively say no, and I yell it from the mountaintops. If somebody doesn't know I'm quit, I tell them.
The great thing about accountability is that it is a two way system. I need these quitters around me just like they need me. I can't just demand their support while brushing off their advice. That's not the way it works. My plan involves posting here as step one. I read the advice doled out here, and I use that advice in my personal quit plan. I ask questions when I need to. I alert others when I'm in trouble.
It's all great that you like to fight, but please stop thinking you got all the answers. You're going to end up flailing and failing if you don't. Stop. Breathe. Focus. We're here to help whether you want to hear it or not.
Now, we all know what happened. You chose to use tobacco. We all know why it happened. You are an addict that chose to use. But, what you have to learn is that tobacco is no longer an option to you this moment. Fuck the future. Fuck the past. Wen you quit, you made a decision to be quit. Make that decision again right now. Do it again....and again. You see? Quitting is not just one decision. It is a series of them. Sure, you can post roll, carry seeds, gum, etc., but if you can't make that decision it's all for naught.
You can do this, and you can be part of this team.
I love to fight. It is who I am, and how I will live my life till the day I die.
You all are right in one way or another. I have realized this.
Thank you wastepanel, SAM, T-cell and others.
I will attempt another go at the three questions once I have thoroughly contemplated them. I guess that's just what I need to do.
So for those of you who want to see my plan:
1. Give better answers to 3 questions.
2. Be as active as I can on the site
3. Take a role. (I have taken a role already in May, and I am learning the Spreadsheet.)
4. Sign a contract before I can cave, to slam my nuts in a drawer, and then tie them to a door knob with fishing line, sit down somewhat far away, and have someone slam that door as hard as they can.
5. reach out to newbies, as I see them post their first days.
6. get all the numbers of my fellow May 14 group, and numbers of vets once they feel I am a badass quitter.
Suggestions? comments?
Stay quit man. That's all we ask.
-
I like you.
You like to fight.
I like that in a quitter.
Now, focus that rage away from these guys (that are trying to help you be free), and focus it on yourself and that weed you used to shove in your lip.Â
No matter how much you think you're right, your 3 answers were bullshit. You started making headway when you wrote "It is my fault for not making a plan the first time", but then you stopped short.
Ultimately, the 3 questions asked of you don't mean anything to us. They are to help you grow and to help you stay quit. Watch:
What happened?--I came here to quit in 2006. I posted roll for the first 100 days or so, and then faded away. In 2009, I hadn't posted roll in a long time but was still stopped. I got drunk and bummed a chew. Within a few months, I was worse off than before.
Why did it happen?--I forgot I was an addict. I thought I could use just one. I chose to use.
What are you doing differently this time?--I post roll everyday (945 for 945). I have tons of numbers in my phone, and I reach out to people regularly. Even though it's not as hard as it once was, I stay active. Most days it is easy to stay quit, but that doesn't mean that I'm cured. As chewie says "We are all $5 and a bad decision away from day 1". I can never forget again.
You see, my 3 answers are completely different than your 3 answers. They don't hurt to type. They are my badge I wear. Fools learn from their mistakes; wisemen learn from anothers'. Dumbasses keep repeating.
My cave was because of complacency. Yours was due to somebody "offering" it. (Do you see why we are concerned? That's weak.) You can't avoid tobacco the rest of your life. You need to grow balls and refuse that shit. It's the difference between being "quit" and "not using". I actively say no, and I yell it from the mountaintops. If somebody doesn't know I'm quit, I tell them.
The great thing about accountability is that it is a two way system. I need these quitters around me just like they need me. I can't just demand their support while brushing off their advice. That's not the way it works. My plan involves posting here as step one. I read the advice doled out here, and I use that advice in my personal quit plan. I ask questions when I need to. I alert others when I'm in trouble.
It's all great that you like to fight, but please stop thinking you got all the answers. You're going to end up flailing and failing if you don't. Stop. Breathe. Focus. We're here to help whether you want to hear it or not.
Now, we all know what happened. You chose to use tobacco. We all know why it happened. You are an addict that chose to use. But, what you have to learn is that tobacco is no longer an option to you this moment. Fuck the future. Fuck the past. Wen you quit, you made a decision to be quit. Make that decision again right now. Do it again....and again. You see? Quitting is not just one decision. It is a series of them. Sure, you can post roll, carry seeds, gum, etc., but if you can't make that decision it's all for naught.
You can do this, and you can be part of this team.
I love to fight. It is who I am, and how I will live my life till the day I die.
You all are right in one way or another. I have realized this.
Thank you wastepanel, SAM, T-cell and others.
I will attempt another go at the three questions once I have thoroughly contemplated them. I guess that's just what I need to do.
So for those of you who want to see my plan:
1. Give better answers to 3 questions.
2. Be as active as I can on the site
3. Take a role. (I have taken a role already in May, and I am learning the Spreadsheet.)
4. Sign a contract before I can cave, to slam my nuts in a drawer, and then tie them to a door knob with fishing line, sit down somewhat far away, and have someone slam that door as hard as they can.
5. reach out to newbies, as I see them post their first days.
6. get all the numbers of my fellow May 14 group, and numbers of vets once they feel I am a badass quitter.
Suggestions? comments?
Stay quit man. That's all we ask.
Amen!
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I like you.
You like to fight.
I like that in a quitter.
Now, focus that rage away from these guys (that are trying to help you be free), and focus it on yourself and that weed you used to shove in your lip.
No matter how much you think you're right, your 3 answers were bullshit. You started making headway when you wrote "It is my fault for not making a plan the first time", but then you stopped short.
Ultimately, the 3 questions asked of you don't mean anything to us. They are to help you grow and to help you stay quit. Watch:
What happened?--I came here to quit in 2006. I posted roll for the first 100 days or so, and then faded away. In 2009, I hadn't posted roll in a long time but was still stopped. I got drunk and bummed a chew. Within a few months, I was worse off than before.
Why did it happen?--I forgot I was an addict. I thought I could use just one. I chose to use.
What are you doing differently this time?--I post roll everyday (945 for 945). I have tons of numbers in my phone, and I reach out to people regularly. Even though it's not as hard as it once was, I stay active. Most days it is easy to stay quit, but that doesn't mean that I'm cured. As chewie says "We are all $5 and a bad decision away from day 1". I can never forget again.
You see, my 3 answers are completely different than your 3 answers. They don't hurt to type. They are my badge I wear. Fools learn from their mistakes; wisemen learn from anothers'. Dumbasses keep repeating.
My cave was because of complacency. Yours was due to somebody "offering" it. (Do you see why we are concerned? That's weak.) You can't avoid tobacco the rest of your life. You need to grow balls and refuse that shit. It's the difference between being "quit" and "not using". I actively say no, and I yell it from the mountaintops. If somebody doesn't know I'm quit, I tell them.
The great thing about accountability is that it is a two way system. I need these quitters around me just like they need me. I can't just demand their support while brushing off their advice. That's not the way it works. My plan involves posting here as step one. I read the advice doled out here, and I use that advice in my personal quit plan. I ask questions when I need to. I alert others when I'm in trouble.
It's all great that you like to fight, but please stop thinking you got all the answers. You're going to end up flailing and failing if you don't. Stop. Breathe. Focus. We're here to help whether you want to hear it or not.
Now, we all know what happened. You chose to use tobacco. We all know why it happened. You are an addict that chose to use. But, what you have to learn is that tobacco is no longer an option to you this moment. Fuck the future. Fuck the past. Wen you quit, you made a decision to be quit. Make that decision again right now. Do it again....and again. You see? Quitting is not just one decision. It is a series of them. Sure, you can post roll, carry seeds, gum, etc., but if you can't make that decision it's all for naught.
You can do this, and you can be part of this team.
thank you for this. It speaks to this quitter. It speaks to me also.
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I like you.
You like to fight.
I like that in a quitter.
Now, focus that rage away from these guys (that are trying to help you be free), and focus it on yourself and that weed you used to shove in your lip.Â
No matter how much you think you're right, your 3 answers were bullshit. You started making headway when you wrote "It is my fault for not making a plan the first time", but then you stopped short.
Ultimately, the 3 questions asked of you don't mean anything to us. They are to help you grow and to help you stay quit. Watch:
What happened?--I came here to quit in 2006. I posted roll for the first 100 days or so, and then faded away. In 2009, I hadn't posted roll in a long time but was still stopped. I got drunk and bummed a chew. Within a few months, I was worse off than before.
Why did it happen?--I forgot I was an addict. I thought I could use just one. I chose to use.
What are you doing differently this time?--I post roll everyday (945 for 945). I have tons of numbers in my phone, and I reach out to people regularly. Even though it's not as hard as it once was, I stay active. Most days it is easy to stay quit, but that doesn't mean that I'm cured. As chewie says "We are all $5 and a bad decision away from day 1". I can never forget again.
You see, my 3 answers are completely different than your 3 answers. They don't hurt to type. They are my badge I wear. Fools learn from their mistakes; wisemen learn from anothers'. Dumbasses keep repeating.
My cave was because of complacency. Yours was due to somebody "offering" it. (Do you see why we are concerned? That's weak.) You can't avoid tobacco the rest of your life. You need to grow balls and refuse that shit. It's the difference between being "quit" and "not using". I actively say no, and I yell it from the mountaintops. If somebody doesn't know I'm quit, I tell them.
The great thing about accountability is that it is a two way system. I need these quitters around me just like they need me. I can't just demand their support while brushing off their advice. That's not the way it works. My plan involves posting here as step one. I read the advice doled out here, and I use that advice in my personal quit plan. I ask questions when I need to. I alert others when I'm in trouble.
It's all great that you like to fight, but please stop thinking you got all the answers. You're going to end up flailing and failing if you don't. Stop. Breathe. Focus. We're here to help whether you want to hear it or not.
Now, we all know what happened. You chose to use tobacco. We all know why it happened. You are an addict that chose to use. But, what you have to learn is that tobacco is no longer an option to you this moment. Fuck the future. Fuck the past. Wen you quit, you made a decision to be quit. Make that decision again right now. Do it again....and again. You see? Quitting is not just one decision. It is a series of them. Sure, you can post roll, carry seeds, gum, etc., but if you can't make that decision it's all for naught.
You can do this, and you can be part of this team.
thank you for this. It speaks to this quitter. It speaks to me also.
:wub: Excellent post WP! We all need to read it...
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jlewis, you do have your quit plan posted, thanks. When can we see your more thoughtful answers to the 3 questions? I see you are demanding that accountability from one of your brothers, we still would like to see yours posted as well. Don't get me wrong, I'm not jumping on you. Asking him for the same was correct. I just think you can be a kick ass quitter and want to see you establish a solid foundation...
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jlewis, you do have your quit plan posted, thanks. When can we see your more thoughtful answers to the 3 questions? I see you are demanding that accountability from one of your brothers, we still would like to see yours posted as well. Don't get me wrong, I'm not jumping on you. Asking him for the same was correct. I just think you can be a kick ass quitter and want to see you establish a solid foundation...
We don't take defeat well around here from one of our brothers. Walk with us daily. Post roll and keep your word. Your to important. Your worth the fight. Quit with you today.
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jlewis, you do have your quit plan posted, thanks. When can we see your more thoughtful answers to the 3 questions? I see you are demanding that accountability from one of your brothers, we still would like to see yours posted as well. Don't get me wrong, I'm not jumping on you. Asking him for the same was correct. I just think you can be a kick ass quitter and want to see you establish a solid foundation...
Ive been busy, but I shall give better answers this evening.
I have had certification tests, ride-alongs, class tests, and a research paper due this past week. so I know you guys will understand.
Im going to demand questions of fellow quitters that have caved cause I think they deserve the same wake up call I had. It's good for them.
That and it is complete bull shit that they are still here after 3 caves. If I cant get away with that, why should they have the special treatment?
just saying..
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jlewis, you do have your quit plan posted, thanks. When can we see your more thoughtful answers to the 3 questions? I see you are demanding that accountability from one of your brothers, we still would like to see yours posted as well. Don't get me wrong, I'm not jumping on you. Asking him for the same was correct. I just think you can be a kick ass quitter and want to see you establish a solid foundation...
Ive been busy, but I shall give better answers this evening.
I have had certification tests, ride-alongs, class tests, and a research paper due this past week. so I know you guys will understand.
Im going to demand questions of fellow quitters that have caved cause I think they deserve the same wake up call I had. It's good for them.
That and it is complete bull shit that they are still here after 3 caves. If I cant get away with that, why should they have the special treatment?
just saying..
Agreed, everyone should be held to the same accountability... No one should be able to cave and slide right back in without explanation and evaluation. Hold his feet to the fire, same as we are nicely doing for you...
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jlewis, you do have your quit plan posted, thanks. When can we see your more thoughtful answers to the 3 questions? I see you are demanding that accountability from one of your brothers, we still would like to see yours posted as well. Don't get me wrong, I'm not jumping on you. Asking him for the same was correct. I just think you can be a kick ass quitter and want to see you establish a solid foundation...
Ive been busy, but I shall give better answers this evening.
I have had certification tests, ride-alongs, class tests, and a research paper due this past week. so I know you guys will understand.
Im going to demand questions of fellow quitters that have caved cause I think they deserve the same wake up call I had. It's good for them.
That and it is complete bull shit that they are still here after 3 caves. If I cant get away with that, why should they have the special treatment?
just saying..
I don't know about the rest of the "guys", but I personally do not understand.
You said you were going to answer the 3 questions better like 5 days ago.
Oh wait...you're busy.
I'll bet my house that there are people on this site 10 times as busy as your punk ass..
Certification tests...fart noise.
Ride alongs....ride "THIS".
Class? Tests...picture me making the jack off motion.
Research paper...child plesse.
I could go tit or tat with that list and bury you with my "busyness", as could hundreds more.
Bottomi line, you can find the time if you really WANT to. Nobody is asking for a hour long dissertation. You can always find the time for things you truly believe in and are committed too.
Just saying...
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jlewis, you do have your quit plan posted, thanks. When can we see your more thoughtful answers to the 3 questions? I see you are demanding that accountability from one of your brothers, we still would like to see yours posted as well. Don't get me wrong, I'm not jumping on you. Asking him for the same was correct. I just think you can be a kick ass quitter and want to see you establish a solid foundation...
Ive been busy, but I shall give better answers this evening.
I have had certification tests, ride-alongs, class tests, and a research paper due this past week. so I know you guys will understand.
Im going to demand questions of fellow quitters that have caved cause I think they deserve the same wake up call I had. It's good for them.
That and it is complete bull shit that they are still here after 3 caves. If I cant get away with that, why should they have the special treatment?
just saying..
I don't know about the rest of the "guys", but I personally do not understand.
You said you were going to answer the 3 questions better like 5 days ago.
Oh wait...you're busy.
I'll bet my house that there are people on this site 10 times as busy as your punk ass..
Certification tests...fart noise.
Ride alongs....ride "THIS".
Class? Tests...picture me making the jack off motion.
Research paper...child plesse.
I could go tit or tat with that list and bury you with my "busyness", as could hundreds more.
Bottomi line, you can find the time if you really WANT to. Nobody is asking for a hour long dissertation. You can always find the time for things you truly believe in and are committed too.
Just saying...
I stood up for you on the May page, no one is going to get a free pass. Now get your ass in gear and give us your "better" answers. Post them in May and lets get on with the quitting, show us you belong here and can take care of your own quit before worrying about anyone else.
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jlewis, you do have your quit plan posted, thanks. When can we see your more thoughtful answers to the 3 questions? I see you are demanding that accountability from one of your brothers, we still would like to see yours posted as well. Don't get me wrong, I'm not jumping on you. Asking him for the same was correct. I just think you can be a kick ass quitter and want to see you establish a solid foundation...
Ive been busy, but I shall give better answers this evening.
I have had certification tests, ride-alongs, class tests, and a research paper due this past week. so I know you guys will understand.
Im going to demand questions of fellow quitters that have caved cause I think they deserve the same wake up call I had. It's good for them.
That and it is complete bull shit that they are still here after 3 caves. If I cant get away with that, why should they have the special treatment?
just saying..
I don't know about the rest of the "guys", but I personally do not understand.
You said you were going to answer the 3 questions better like 5 days ago.
Oh wait...you're busy.
I'll bet my house that there are people on this site 10 times as busy as your punk ass..
Certification tests...fart noise.
Ride alongs....ride "THIS".
Class? Tests...picture me making the jack off motion.
Research paper...child plesse.
I could go tit or tat with that list and bury you with my "busyness", as could hundreds more.
Bottomi line, you can find the time if you really WANT to. Nobody is asking for a hour long dissertation. You can always find the time for things you truly believe in and are committed too.
Just saying...
I stood up for you on the May page, no one is going to get a free pass. Now get your ass in gear and give us your "better" answers. Post them in May and lets get on with the quitting, show us you belong here and can take care of your own quit before worrying about anyone else.
Telling the quitters on this site that you are too "busy" is pretty much BS and totally ridiculous.
Do you think you are the only one that has a life on here?
You either care enough that this is a priority in your life or you don't.
This is clearly not a top priority for you and you just do things when you get around to it.
You do seem to have plenty of time to monitor other quitters and call them out for their actions.
Why don't you get your own house in order before you call out other quitters and then tell us you are too "busy"....
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jlewis, you do have your quit plan posted, thanks. When can we see your more thoughtful answers to the 3 questions? I see you are demanding that accountability from one of your brothers, we still would like to see yours posted as well. Don't get me wrong, I'm not jumping on you. Asking him for the same was correct. I just think you can be a kick ass quitter and want to see you establish a solid foundation...
Ive been busy, but I shall give better answers this evening.
I have had certification tests, ride-alongs, class tests, and a research paper due this past week. so I know you guys will understand.
Im going to demand questions of fellow quitters that have caved cause I think they deserve the same wake up call I had. It's good for them.
That and it is complete bull shit that they are still here after 3 caves. If I cant get away with that, why should they have the special treatment?
just saying..
I don't know about the rest of the "guys", but I personally do not understand.
You said you were going to answer the 3 questions better like 5 days ago.
Oh wait...you're busy.
I'll bet my house that there are people on this site 10 times as busy as your punk ass..
Certification tests...fart noise.
Ride alongs....ride "THIS".
Class? Tests...picture me making the jack off motion.
Research paper...child plesse.
I could go tit or tat with that list and bury you with my "busyness", as could hundreds more.
Bottomi line, you can find the time if you really WANT to. Nobody is asking for a hour long dissertation. You can always find the time for things you truly believe in and are committed too.
Just saying...
I stood up for you on the May page, no one is going to get a free pass. Now get your ass in gear and give us your "better" answers. Post them in May and lets get on with the quitting, show us you belong here and can take care of your own quit before worrying about anyone else.
Telling the quitters on this site that you are too "busy" is pretty much BS and totally ridiculous.
Do you think you are the only one that has a life on here?
You either care enough that this is a priority in your life or you don't.
This is clearly not a top priority for you and you just do things when you get around to it.
You do seem to have plenty of time to monitor other quitters and call them out for their actions.
Why don't you get your own house in order before you call out other quitters and then tell us you are too "busy"....
Do or do not. There is no try.
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jlewis, you do have your quit plan posted, thanks. When can we see your more thoughtful answers to the 3 questions? I see you are demanding that accountability from one of your brothers, we still would like to see yours posted as well. Don't get me wrong, I'm not jumping on you. Asking him for the same was correct. I just think you can be a kick ass quitter and want to see you establish a solid foundation...
Ive been busy, but I shall give better answers this evening.
I have had certification tests, ride-alongs, class tests, and a research paper due this past week. so I know you guys will understand.
Im going to demand questions of fellow quitters that have caved cause I think they deserve the same wake up call I had. It's good for them.
That and it is complete bull shit that they are still here after 3 caves. If I cant get away with that, why should they have the special treatment?
just saying..
I don't know about the rest of the "guys", but I personally do not understand.
You said you were going to answer the 3 questions better like 5 days ago.
Oh wait...you're busy.
I'll bet my house that there are people on this site 10 times as busy as your punk ass..
Certification tests...fart noise.
Ride alongs....ride "THIS".
Class? Tests...picture me making the jack off motion.
Research paper...child plesse.
I could go tit or tat with that list and bury you with my "busyness", as could hundreds more.
Bottomi line, you can find the time if you really WANT to. Nobody is asking for a hour long dissertation. You can always find the time for things you truly believe in and are committed too.
Just saying...
I stood up for you on the May page, no one is going to get a free pass. Now get your ass in gear and give us your "better" answers. Post them in May and lets get on with the quitting, show us you belong here and can take care of your own quit before worrying about anyone else.
Telling the quitters on this site that you are too "busy" is pretty much BS and totally ridiculous.
Do you think you are the only one that has a life on here?
You either care enough that this is a priority in your life or you don't.
This is clearly not a top priority for you and you just do things when you get around to it.
You do seem to have plenty of time to monitor other quitters and call them out for their actions.
Why don't you get your own house in order before you call out other quitters and then tell us you are too "busy"....
Do or do not. There is no try.
Yo Bubba, ain't no joke. You pitch well, do you bat? Asking no more than you have demanded from others.
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jlewis, you do have your quit plan posted, thanks. When can we see your more thoughtful answers to the 3 questions? I see you are demanding that accountability from one of your brothers, we still would like to see yours posted as well. Don't get me wrong, I'm not jumping on you. Asking him for the same was correct. I just think you can be a kick ass quitter and want to see you establish a solid foundation...
Ive been busy, but I shall give better answers this evening.
I have had certification tests, ride-alongs, class tests, and a research paper due this past week. so I know you guys will understand.
Im going to demand questions of fellow quitters that have caved cause I think they deserve the same wake up call I had. It's good for them.
That and it is complete bull shit that they are still here after 3 caves. If I cant get away with that, why should they have the special treatment?
just saying..
I don't know about the rest of the "guys", but I personally do not understand.
You said you were going to answer the 3 questions better like 5 days ago.
Oh wait...you're busy.
I'll bet my house that there are people on this site 10 times as busy as your punk ass..
Certification tests...fart noise.
Ride alongs....ride "THIS".
Class? Tests...picture me making the jack off motion.
Research paper...child plesse.
I could go tit or tat with that list and bury you with my "busyness", as could hundreds more.
Bottomi line, you can find the time if you really WANT to. Nobody is asking for a hour long dissertation. You can always find the time for things you truly believe in and are committed too.
Just saying...
I stood up for you on the May page, no one is going to get a free pass. Now get your ass in gear and give us your "better" answers. Post them in May and lets get on with the quitting, show us you belong here and can take care of your own quit before worrying about anyone else.
Telling the quitters on this site that you are too "busy" is pretty much BS and totally ridiculous.
Do you think you are the only one that has a life on here?
You either care enough that this is a priority in your life or you don't.
This is clearly not a top priority for you and you just do things when you get around to it.
You do seem to have plenty of time to monitor other quitters and call them out for their actions.
Why don't you get your own house in order before you call out other quitters and then tell us you are too "busy"....
Do or do not. There is no try.
Yo Bubba, ain't no joke. You pitch well, do you bat? Asking no more than you have demanded from others.
Bump up....sense you are a night owl.
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JLewis- I saw your blurb on the top of our quit group calling out KrazyStu. I should probably admit right off the bat that it pissed me off for some reason right away, but initially thought you were some crusty old vet and knew what you were talking about. When I saw that you were in our quit group I was a bit confused why you wouldn't have connected with KrazyStu before going all agro on the group site. but whatever, I figured you were just a hardcore quitter, and don't tolerate any weakness. But then I saw you caved too. Well, I figured, at least he was probably accountable when he caved, since that is the issue you broadcasted around, but then see that you are getting a ton of shit for not doing what you called KrazyStu out for not doing.
I am again confused. Are you a fucking idiot? Get your shit together.
Stop worrying about KrazyStu, and take care of your own shit. It seems like you are feeling sorry for yourself, making excuses, and being a bitch.
Lets get our quit on.
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You would never have been too busy to not finger-bang the death can. You would have bent heaven and earth to find time to get shit flavored cancer dirt if your stash was out... The 3 questions are not something I have had to answer so I feel some pity for you b/c there really no answer good enough... I had plenty of failed quits before I found KTC; they are called stoppages, but thank God I have been able to keep my word EDD since I found KTC... Find the time to satisfy these B.A.Q. who are spending time investing in your quit. Reading your intro makes me want to pull for you; all these BAQ supporting you, your fighters spirit, and willing to come back and take your lumps makes me think you have what it takes... Still too many stupid addict speak statements like "too busy" and "sideswiped by a friend who didn't know I was quit offering me a fat wad of poison that would ruin my credibility and might be the lip turd that causes terminal cancer" (ok I took some liberties with that last quote...).
Bottom line: you (we all) are in a fight for our lives! The end-game for tobacco use is a horrible, painful, and ultimately selfish death. Is there anything that takes priority over getting free from that?
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You would never have been too busy to not finger-bang the death can. You would have bent heaven and earth to find time to get shit flavored cancer dirt if your stash was out... The 3 questions are not something I have had to answer so I feel some pity for you b/c there really no answer good enough... I had plenty of failed quits before I found KTC; they are called stoppages, but thank God I have been able to keep my word EDD since I found KTC... Find the time to satisfy these B.A.Q. who are spending time investing in your quit. Reading your intro makes me want to pull for you; all these BAQ supporting you, your fighters spirit, and willing to come back and take your lumps makes me think you have what it takes... Still too many stupid addict speak statements like "too busy" and "sideswiped by a friend who didn't know I was quit offering me a fat wad of poison that would ruin my credibility and might be the lip turd that causes terminal cancer" (ok I took some liberties with that last quote...).
Bottom line: you (we all) are in a fight for our lives! The end-game for tobacco use is a horrible, painful, and ultimately selfish death. Is there anything that takes priority over getting free from that?
Damn straight!!
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JLewis- I saw your blurb on the top of our quit group calling out KrazyStu. I should probably admit right off the bat that it pissed me off for some reason right away, but initially thought you were some crusty old vet and knew what you were talking about. When I saw that you were in our quit group I was a bit confused why you wouldn't have connected with KrazyStu before going all agro on the group site. but whatever, I figured you were just a hardcore quitter, and don't tolerate any weakness. But then I saw you caved too. Well, I figured, at least he was probably accountable when he caved, since that is the issue you broadcasted around, but then see that you are getting a ton of shit for not doing what you called KrazyStu out for not doing.
I am again confused. Are you a fucking idiot? Get your shit together.
Stop worrying about KrazyStu, and take care of your own shit. It seems like you are feeling sorry for yourself, making excuses, and being a bitch.
Lets get our quit on.
Fucking awesome post, and way to hold your brother accountable. Both of you guys rock, and I trust that JLewis has his head in the right place now. The answers aren't for us. They are for him.
Unfortunately, this is group therapy and we do everything in our power to stay quit here including talking about and having others judge our quit plans.
JLewis...bad ass to hold another brother accountable, but don't think that calling out is the only aspect of quitting. Getting called out is just as important.
Lip...Bad ass quitting man. BAD ASS.
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jlewis, you do have your quit plan posted, thanks. When can we see your more thoughtful answers to the 3 questions? I see you are demanding that accountability from one of your brothers, we still would like to see yours posted as well. Don't get me wrong, I'm not jumping on you. Asking him for the same was correct. I just think you can be a kick ass quitter and want to see you establish a solid foundation...
Ive been busy, but I shall give better answers this evening.
I have had certification tests, ride-alongs, class tests, and a research paper due this past week. so I know you guys will understand.
Im going to demand questions of fellow quitters that have caved cause I think they deserve the same wake up call I had. It's good for them.
That and it is complete bull shit that they are still here after 3 caves. If I cant get away with that, why should they have the special treatment?
just saying..
I don't know about the rest of the "guys", but I personally do not understand.
You said you were going to answer the 3 questions better like 5 days ago.
Oh wait...you're busy.
I'll bet my house that there are people on this site 10 times as busy as your punk ass..
Certification tests...fart noise.
Ride alongs....ride "THIS".
Class? Tests...picture me making the jack off motion.
Research paper...child plesse.
I could go tit or tat with that list and bury you with my "busyness", as could hundreds more.
Bottomi line, you can find the time if you really WANT to. Nobody is asking for a hour long dissertation. You can always find the time for things you truly believe in and are committed too.
Just saying...
I stood up for you on the May page, no one is going to get a free pass. Now get your ass in gear and give us your "better" answers. Post them in May and lets get on with the quitting, show us you belong here and can take care of your own quit before worrying about anyone else.
Telling the quitters on this site that you are too "busy" is pretty much BS and totally ridiculous.
Do you think you are the only one that has a life on here?
You either care enough that this is a priority in your life or you don't.
This is clearly not a top priority for you and you just do things when you get around to it.
You do seem to have plenty of time to monitor other quitters and call them out for their actions.
Why don't you get your own house in order before you call out other quitters and then tell us you are too "busy"....
Do or do not. There is no try.
Yo Bubba, ain't no joke. You pitch well, do you bat? Asking no more than you have demanded from others.
Bump up....sense you are a night owl.
jlewis, you do have your quit plan posted, thanks. When can we see your more thoughtful answers to the 3 questions? I see you are demanding that accountability from one of your brothers, we still would like to see yours posted as well. Don't get me wrong, I'm not jumping on you. Asking him for the same was correct. I just think you can be a kick ass quitter and want to see you establish a solid foundation...
Ive been busy, but I shall give better answers this evening.
I have had certification tests, ride-alongs, class tests, and a research paper due this past week. so I know you guys will understand.
Im going to demand questions of fellow quitters that have caved cause I think they deserve the same wake up call I had. It's good for them.
That and it is complete bull shit that they are still here after 3 caves. If I cant get away with that, why should they have the special treatment?
just saying..
I don't know about the rest of the "guys", but I personally do not understand.
You said you were going to answer the 3 questions better like 5 days ago.
Oh wait...you're busy.
I'll bet my house that there are people on this site 10 times as busy as your punk ass..
Certification tests...fart noise.
Ride alongs....ride "THIS".
Class? Tests...picture me making the jack off motion.
Research paper...child plesse.
I could go tit or tat with that list and bury you with my "busyness", as could hundreds more.
Bottomi line, you can find the time if you really WANT to. Nobody is asking for a hour long dissertation. You can always find the time for things you truly believe in and are committed too.
Just saying...
I stood up for you on the May page, no one is going to get a free pass. Now get your ass in gear and give us your "better" answers. Post them in May and lets get on with the quitting, show us you belong here and can take care of your own quit before worrying about anyone else.
Telling the quitters on this site that you are too "busy" is pretty much BS and totally ridiculous.
Do you think you are the only one that has a life on here?
You either care enough that this is a priority in your life or you don't.
This is clearly not a top priority for you and you just do things when you get around to it.
You do seem to have plenty of time to monitor other quitters and call them out for their actions.
Why don't you get your own house in order before you call out other quitters and then tell us you are too "busy"....
Do or do not. There is no try.
Yo Bubba, ain't no joke. You pitch well, do you bat? Asking no more than you have demanded from others.
For people who think I don't have time. Go fuck yourself! You have no idea what I'm doing. Fuck you and all you stand for, thinking you are busier?? Fucking try what I'm doing. Go to medic school motherfuckers and get a real job. Actually live for once instead of jerking off in a fucking office cubicle. Try going to school, and working at the same time. Easy? Yeah right. Dumb fucks.. Think again before you fucking run your mouths.
Now. Back to what I am here for. Since I really don't know cause you guys think your shit doesn't stink. And that really makes me not want to fucking be here. There are only a select few I really give 2 shits about, and my quit group. Which is the reason I'm here. Everyone else, if you ain't got anything reasonable to say, then move the fuck on.
So, 3 questions.
What happened:
No excuses. I caved like a fucking girl.
Why it happened:
Cause I'm a dumbass motherfucker who loved cancer, and the shit that gives it to you. I loved banging the nic bitch.
What am I doing now to make sure it doesn't happen again?
I made my plan, now I'm defending myself from you guys and the nic bitch.
Taking it one day at a time. And rage here if I need to.
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You guys wanna step? Then just keep bitching. Cause I'm going to keep accountable till the day I'm 6 ft down. I've talked to many people on here, and I have my circle of friends. What do you got?
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You guys wanna step? Then just keep bitching. Cause I'm going to keep accountable till the day I'm 6 ft down. I've talked to many people on here, and I have my circle of friends. What do you got?
Someone please step! I'm trying to finish a narrative and need some inspiration.
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You guys wanna step? Then just keep bitching. Cause I'm going to keep accountable till the day I'm 6 ft down. I've talked to many people on here, and I have my circle of friends. What do you got?
Someone please step! I'm trying to finish a narrative and need some inspiration.
Damn, I must be old. Not ever sure what step means in this context...
I'm tracking you jlewis (your fault, you asked for my help), and agree your approach and mindset is much better than before. However responding in anger to peer accountability will only bring you additional drama. Got time for that?
No one on this site gets a free pass when they fail. The only possible exception is the dude no one cares about or trusts. Please just address the questions thoughtfully. You already have your quit plan posted, that largely answers #3 already. I've got no problem with you calling out weak behavior in others, but you gotta own your quit business first...
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Damn, I must be old. Not ever sure what step means in this context...
I think this means "step up to the plate" as in "if you have a problem with me we will settle it by fighting".
I think? I'm pretty old also.
PB
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Damn, I must be old. Not ever sure what step means in this context...
I think this means "step up to the plate" as in "if you have a problem with me we will settle it by fighting".
I think? I'm pretty old also.
PB
slowly puts break dancing gear back in it's storage locker
sigh...
One day it will happen, and I will be ready. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_Vk7EXHmao)
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You guys wanna step? Then just keep bitching. Cause I'm going to keep accountable till the day I'm 6 ft down. I've talked to many people on here, and I have my circle of friends. What do you got?
I guess, I'm "stepping"?
Your answers stiIl suck.
Also, I don't think you DON'T have time, I know you DO have time.
I used to think I was busy at college and working too. Then I "stepped" into the real world and realized what being busy actually was. It wasn't being a working college student, I'll tell you that, Slick
Work, wife, kids, etc...that's the real world, Bub. Not exams and term papers.
Don't get me wrong, college can be stressful and time consuming, but to say you're too busy is bullshit. If this quits important to you, you can find 5 minutes to answer the 3 questions legitimately.
Also I don't jack off in a cubicle for a living, but if there was an actual job like that, I'd be a Fucking billionaire.
Dude, you're a punk. Grow the fuck up. You just challenged people to "step" to you on a voluntary online quit chew support site. What are you gonna do, beat us up?
Ewwwwwwww, we are all shaking in our boots.
Just keep quit junior, and realize the world does not revolve around you.
Quit on...
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Wow Jlewis...still fooling yourself, huh? See, we're addicts. We lied to ourselves and those who love us most. We're professional excuse-makers...which is what makes us so keenly adept at spotting other excuse-makers...like you. We spotted your brand of bullshit a long time ago.
Addiction is a source of frustration and anger. You're not pissed at us. You're pissed at yourself. You're angry that the Nic Bitch owns you. You're pissed that a bunch of folks (some probably even in cubicles) can control their addictions and a super-smart almost-doctor like you can't. You're pissed at yourself because you failed.
But, here's the good part...we don't care about your failures. We're here to support your quit. We know you're struggling and we're still on your side (despite your accomplished use of the "F-word"). And, do you know what we charge for this unconditional support? Nothing. All we ask is that you give your word, not excuses, by posting roll. Mutual accountability and honesty form the foundation. You blew it the first time. So, excuse us if we dare to ask what you are going to do differently this time?
I know you've got a busy schedule. I'm interested to see how you manage medical school and the disfiguring jaw/tounge removal procedures, chemotherapy, feeding tubes, coffin shopping, last will and testament prep and your own funeral? Talk about multi-tasking!!!
Listen Jlewis, you can control your addiction. This site will enable you to do it. But you gotta buy in. Click around in the Quit Groups...not just your own group, but many months and years. All of those bad-asses were once right where you are right now. And we are all controlling our addictions one day at a time...some even despite the limited space of their office cubicles, I bet. You can too.
Let me ask you this, do you ever take a shit? I figured out how to post roll on my iPhone. It isn't too difficult...espcially for an almost-doctor, I bet. It takes me about 30 seconds, which is perfect given my internet speed and the similarly slow speed of peristalsis. And, if you can't find time to post while you're sitting on the hoop, you can even text someone to do it for you. Or, you could just tell some nurse to post for you as you trot off to the can?!!
Excuses are like assholes. Everyone has one and they all stink...even a doctor's, I bet. So get with the program and Post Roll. You can do this!!!
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Excuse me while I step on this soap box for a minute. Senior Director level position, manage a staff of post-graduate doctors of pharmacy and create drug coverage benefits for 3 million plus beneficiaries. I have 2 graduate level degrees, work 60+ hours a week, and make (not find) time to be a good husband and raise two adolescent children. I coach a soccer team, volunteer, and avidly work out every day. I've lived your life, but harder. You don't hold a candle to me when it comes to working hard. And you know whatÂ….I don't give a fuck that you don't hold a candle. I don't give a shit what people do for a living here at KTC. What I do care about is that they quit with me and I quit with them. My respect for these people I quit with day in and day out is unparalleled in other aspects of my life. They are one of my pillars of quit.
I'll step to you any day of the week and squash you like a neophyte pee-on. But, should you find something called humility and accept that you, like the rest of us, are an addict AND one who can accept what these fine people can offer you...then I will happily change my tone to one of support. You choose.
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OK, I'm probably going to get my fat ass handed to me over this post. JLewis has posted each of the last 13 days/he's at 100%. Chances are he'll post today as well. He's volunteered to take over the 'Accountability Spreadsheet' for May. He did have an early cave, but that was two weeks ago and he answered the 3 questions 3 times now. I know I'm a fucking rookie but his second set of answers seemed appropriate. He was right for calling out someone else who caved and he was right in asking for 3 answers. Just as he was called out when he caved. Is he perfect, the model quitter? Probably not. Is he doing what he can? I think so. If, as is told, all you have to do is post roll and not dip, he's right there with the rest of us. I hope that JLewis and Kstu drama doesn't affect my fellow May quitters. After seeing Kstu's well-thought answers, I don't think it will. Not defending JLewis' rage today, that's up to him. I also agree that if there is a job for masturbating in a cubicle, you should see my resume'.
I will defend any of my fellow Maysters as long as they post and don't dip.
I quit with Kstu and JLewis every damn day!
Just trying to bring a little serenity to my fellow Maysturbators.
Flame away!
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OK, I'm probably going to get my fat ass handed to me over this post. JLewis has posted each of the last 13 days/he's at 100%. Chances are he'll post today as well. He's volunteered to take over the 'Accountability Spreadsheet' for May. He did have an early cave, but that was two weeks ago and he answered the 3 questions 3 times now. I know I'm a fucking rookie but his second set of answers seemed appropriate. He was right for calling out someone else who caved and he was right in asking for 3 answers. Just as he was called out when he caved. Is he perfect, the model quitter? Probably not. Is he doing what he can? I think so. If, as is told, all you have to do is post roll and not dip, he's right there with the rest of us. I hope that JLewis and Kstu drama doesn't affect my fellow May quitters. After seeing Kstu's well-thought answers, I don't think it will. Not defending his rage today, that's up to him. I also agree that if there is a job for masturbating in a cubicle, you should see my resume'.
I will defend any of my fellow Maysters as long as they post and don't dip.
I quit with Kstu and JLewis every damn day!
Just trying to bring a little serenity to my fellow Maysturbators.
Flame away!
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OK, I'm probably going to get my fat ass handed to me over this post. JLewis has posted each of the last 13 days/he's at 100%. Chances are he'll post today as well. He's volunteered to take over the 'Accountability Spreadsheet' for May. He did have an early cave, but that was two weeks ago and he answered the 3 questions 3 times now. I know I'm a fucking rookie but his second set of answers seemed appropriate. He was right for calling out someone else who caved and he was right in asking for 3 answers. Just as he was called out when he caved. Is he perfect, the model quitter? Probably not. Is he doing what he can? I think so. If, as is told, all you have to do is post roll and not dip, he's right there with the rest of us. I hope that JLewis and Kstu drama doesn't affect my fellow May quitters. After seeing Kstu's well-thought answers, I don't think it will. Not defending his rage today, that's up to him. I also agree that if there is a job for masturbating in a cubicle, you should see my resume'.
I will defend any of my fellow Maysters as long as they post and don't dip.
I quit with Kstu and JLewis every damn day!
Just trying to bring a little serenity to my fellow Maysturbators.
Flame away!
Thanks for sharing. Being quit is all that matters. The fact that Jlewis had time in his busy schedule to impress you, impresses me. Great job, Maysturbators!!!
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I think all of the old whiny cunts can let go of the "busy schedule" comment now.
Piling on is easy. At some point it is not helping anyone, and you just look like fucking assholes.
Let the bro get on with his quit and stop your fucking bitch fest.
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I think all of the old whiny cunts can let go of the "busy schedule" comment now.
Piling on is easy. At some point it is not helping anyone, and you just look like fucking assholes.
Let the bro get on with his quit and stop your fucking bitch fest.
Thanks lip and slug. You old mayster cunts :P
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I think all of the old whiny cunts can let go of the "busy schedule" comment now.
Piling on is easy. At some point it is not helping anyone, and you just look like fucking assholes.
Let the bro get on with his quit and stop your fucking bitch fest.
Awesome idea! Good job!!!
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OK, I'm probably going to get my fat ass handed to me over this post. JLewis has posted each of the last 13 days/he's at 100%. Chances are he'll post today as well. He's volunteered to take over the 'Accountability Spreadsheet' for May. He did have an early cave, but that was two weeks ago and he answered the 3 questions 3 times now. I know I'm a fucking rookie but his second set of answers seemed appropriate. He was right for calling out someone else who caved and he was right in asking for 3 answers. Just as he was called out when he caved. Is he perfect, the model quitter? Probably not. Is he doing what he can? I think so. If, as is told, all you have to do is post roll and not dip, he's right there with the rest of us. I hope that JLewis and Kstu drama doesn't affect my fellow May quitters. After seeing Kstu's well-thought answers, I don't think it will. Not defending JLewis' rage today, that's up to him. I also agree that if there is a job for masturbating in a cubicle, you should see my resume'.
I will defend any of my fellow Maysters as long as they post and don't dip.
I quit with Kstu and JLewis every damn day!
Just trying to bring a little serenity to my fellow Maysturbators.
Flame away!
'clap' 'clap' 'clap'
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Wow. I just went on a call that involved someone in a class I could or could not be involved in. Thank God I knew what to do. This person is alive, and getting better. Can't say much cause HIPPA, but man I almost shit in my pants.
It is deserving of a post
Life is worth living. No matter what. No if ands or buts. You belong on this earth for a reason. Why would you want to give that up? You know what? In all seriousness. The addiction to the death can is the same way. You give up your quit, you are surrendering your life to the will of whatever the nic bitch wants. Hint hint. If you don't know what she wants, it's your life. it's death by cancer. Not that hard of a choice right? Durrrr.
So as a little reminder
What will you choose?
if you are looking at this I would hope that you just take a look at where you are at in your life, and hug your loves ones, daughters, sons, friends, even coworkers (if they aren't weirded out by that). Tell them how glad you are to have them around in your life.
Heck, throw them a compliment. It takes 10 positives to heal a negative.
You never know what lies around the corner.
God willing it is a long fulfilling life.
Peace guys.
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Wow. I just went on a call that involved someone in a class I could or could not be involved in. Thank God I knew what to do. This person is alive, and getting better. Can't say much cause HIPPA, but man I almost shit in my pants.
It is deserving of a post
Life is worth living. No matter what. No if ands or buts. You belong on this earth for a reason. Why would you want to give that up? You know what? In all seriousness. The addiction to the death can is the same way. You give up your quit, you are surrendering your life to the will of whatever the nic bitch wants. Hint hint. If you don't know what she wants, it's your life. it's death by cancer. Not that hard of a choice right? Durrrr.
So as a little reminder
What will you choose?
if you are looking at this I would hope that you just take a look at where you are at in your life, and hug your loves ones, daughters, sons, friends, even coworkers (if they aren't weirded out by that). Tell them how glad you are to have them around in your life.
Heck, throw them a compliment. It takes 10 positives to heal a negative.
You never know what lies around the corner.
God willing it is a long fulfilling life.
Peace guys.
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Disregard.
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Pretty quiet in here JT... :huh:
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Pretty quiet in here JT... :huh:
He's busy. Hopefully still quit though...
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Pretty quiet in here JT... :huh:
He's busy. Hopefully still quit though...
he posted roll - 44 today. Nice job JLewis.
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Pretty quiet in here JT... :huh:
He's busy. Hopefully still quit though...
he posted roll - 44 today. Nice job JLewis.
I've been texting/bugging him about how he sucks at posting roll lately, glad to see he posted today.
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Pretty quiet in here JT... :huh:
He's busy. Hopefully still quit though...
he posted roll - 44 today. Nice job JLewis.
I've been texting/bugging him about how he sucks at posting roll lately, glad to see he posted today.
Yeah I suck dick at posting, but I've made the nic bitch a slave 51 days. Keeping her locked up and my quit well guarded. One day at a time, sometimes one minute at a time.
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Pretty quiet in here JT... :huh:
He's busy. Hopefully still quit though...
he posted roll - 44 today. Nice job JLewis.
I've been texting/bugging him about how he sucks at posting roll lately, glad to see he posted today.
Yeah I suck dick at posting, but I've made the nic bitch a slave 51 days. Keeping her locked up and my quit well guarded. One day at a time, sometimes one minute at a time.
Good on ya, JT!
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Just got internet! Fuck yes!
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Just got internet! Fuck yes!
Just got it hooked up? Or literally just got it where you live?
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Just got internet! Fuck yes!
Just got it hooked up? Or literally just got it where you live?
I heard its very tough to quit when living on the moon.
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Just got internet! Fuck yes!
Just got it hooked up? Or literally just got it where you live?
I heard its very tough to quit when living on the moon.
Anybody seen one of those newfangled horseless carriages???LMAO
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Just got internet! Fuck yes!
Just got it hooked up? Or literally just got it where you live?
I heard its very tough to quit when living on the moon.
Anybody seen one of those newfangled horseless carriages???LMAO
I always had trouble getting internet too when I was living in my moms basement wearing sweat pants and cammo crocs.hahah
All kidding aside I am glad you have internet now so you can keep closer to the site. Staying close to the site is a lifesaver you can build and foster relationships with your fellow quitters.
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Just got internet! Fuck yes!
Wow! this is sweet man! I hope you'll be around here and posting more- and it helps your quit get even stronger. It has to be hard to work it without internet, so let's see what you can do now! Enjoy man!
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Just got internet! Fuck yes!
Wow! this is sweet man! I hope you'll be around here and posting more- and it helps your quit get even stronger. It has to be hard to work it without internet, so let's see what you can do now! Enjoy man!
Welcome to the new millennium!
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Just got internet! Fuck yes!
Wow! this is sweet man! I hope you'll be around here and posting more- and it helps your quit get even stronger. It has to be hard to work it without internet, so let's see what you can do now! Enjoy man!
Welcome to the new millennium!
Thanks, Al Gore!
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Damn, you were just so predictable jlewis.
I really do hope you are and remain quit. That is the entire reason for me communicating with you. You have failed to build an obvious accountability network. You have failed to attempt to post roll every day. Those are 2 of the primary ingedients to a KTC quit. While you mimic the words back (so people stay off you), you simply haven't bought in to the KTC way of quitting. Your own home group has taken you off the accountability sheet, that should have told you something.
Perhaps you are the special person that can quit on their own. If so, great and congrats. If not, it is not to late to actually buy in to the KTC way. Otherwise the rest of the prediction is cave within 2 years... Anyone want to place a bet?
'bang head' it does piss me off when someone asks for help then doesn't take it...
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Damn, you were just so predictable jlewis.
I really do hope you are and remain quit. That is the entire reason for me communicating with you. You have failed to build an obvious accountability network. You have failed to attempt to post roll every day. Those are 2 of the primary ingedients to a KTC quit. While you mimic the words back (so people stay off you), you simply haven't bought in to the KTC way of quitting. Your own home group has taken you off the accountability sheet, that should have told you something.
Perhaps you are the special person that can quit on their own. If so, great and congrats. If not, it is not to late to actually buy in to the KTC way. Otherwise the rest of the prediction is cave within 2 years... Anyone want to place a bet?
'bang head' it does piss me off when someone asks for help then doesn't take it...
Like everybody else who caves or doesn't post roll, he's too busy. Whaaaaaaa 'cry'
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Damn, you were just so predictable jlewis.
I really do hope you are and remain quit. That is the entire reason for me communicating with you. You have failed to build an obvious accountability network. You have failed to attempt to post roll every day. Those are 2 of the primary ingedients to a KTC quit. While you mimic the words back (so people stay off you), you simply haven't bought in to the KTC way of quitting. Your own home group has taken you off the accountability sheet, that should have told you something.
Perhaps you are the special person that can quit on their own. If so, great and congrats. If not, it is not to late to actually buy in to the KTC way. Otherwise the rest of the prediction is cave within 2 years... Anyone want to place a bet?
'bang head'Â it does piss me off when someone asks for help then doesn't take it...
Like everybody else who caves or doesn't post roll, he's too busy. Whaaaaaaa 'cry'
Been texting him for days....so disappointed. :angry: