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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Starving the Bear on October 16, 2013, 01:54:00 AM
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Gentlemen- I looked at this site for a while during my last quit. I don't remember how long it lasted, or why I started again. But I know I didn't last long, and had no good reason to start again.
Been chewing Kodiak for 20 years. I chew like a madman. Every time I quit I come back chewing even harder.
I chew right before bed, and then stay up a while longer to have another.
First thing in the morning I throw in my dip dump. (How do people crap without chew?)
Then it's relentless chewing all day.
But I can't do this shit anymore.
Thought maybe if I posted here, I would stay stronger. My wife can't stop me, and apparently it's taken 3 years for my kids to get me to wise up enough to really consider turning my back on chew.
I have decided to cheat and am using 4mg lozenges sprinkled in with hard candy.
I guess I am not officially quit until I exhaust this supply of nico replacement candies. About 160 left.
Til then I am going to be in limbo.
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Gentlemen- I looked at this site for a while during my last quit. I don't remember how long it lasted, or why I started again. But I know I didn't last long, and had no good reason to start again.
Been chewing Kodiak for 20 years. I chew like a madman. Every time I quit I come back chewing even harder.
I chew right before bed, and then stay up a while longer to have another.
First thing in the morning I throw in my dip dump. (How do people crap without chew?)
Then it's relentless chewing all day.
But I can't do this shit anymore.
Thought maybe if I posted here, I would stay stronger. My wife can't stop me, and apparently it's taken 3 years for my kids to get me to wise up enough to really consider turning my back on chew.
I have decided to cheat and am using 4mg lozenges sprinkled in with hard candy.
I guess I am not officially quit until I exhaust this supply of nico replacement candies. About 160 left.
Til then I am going to be in limbo.
Dude! First, I want to commend you for recognizing that you are a slave. That is the first step in the process, so it is good that you have made I that far.
Unfortunately, that is where the congratulations stop. You need to change 3 things before you really quit.
1. Mindset. You haven't quit before, you have taken little breaks in the past. This time, when you are ready, you are gonna quit. You must change your mindset to reflect this very key change.
2. Goal. Your goal is to be quit for you. Not for your wife. Not for your kids. For you. You have to want this more than you have ever wanted anything, and you've got to be ready to dig in and fight for it.
3. Approach. Take nicotine out of the equation for a minute. Let's say you were an alcoholic looking to quit. And you came to our esteemed group and posted that "I drink 1.75L of vodka every day, but I'm looking to quit! From here out I'm going to drink 1.0L of gin until I run out (30 bottles.). Wish me luck!" This is addict approach, not a successful one.
Spit out the losenges. Flush them. Rid you house if all poison. Change your mindset. Establish your goal. And goddamn quit!
I am a few days short of 300 days of freedom from the bear here. I set myself free in Christmas Eve 2012 after 25 years. If I can do it, you can do it. The people on this site will dig in their heels and pull/push you along, but you gotta be ready for the push. Until them, you'll be drinking gin and tonics.
I won't go into telling you how every aspect of life is markedly better without kodiak. I think you know that. This is probably the hardest thing I've ever done, and probably the most personally rewarding. You can do this, provided you un-mind-fuck yourself. Sorry for the bluntness, but you get what I'm saying. Let us know when you are ready. We will help you. And you can do this.
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Gentlemen- I looked at this site for a while during my last quit. I don't remember how long it lasted, or why I started again. But I know I didn't last long, and had no good reason to start again.
Been chewing Kodiak for 20 years. I chew like a madman. Every time I quit I come back chewing even harder.
I chew right before bed, and then stay up a while longer to have another.
First thing in the morning I throw in my dip dump. (How do people crap without chew?)
Then it's relentless chewing all day.
But I can't do this shit anymore.
Thought maybe if I posted here, I would stay stronger. My wife can't stop me, and apparently it's taken 3 years for my kids to get me to wise up enough to really consider turning my back on chew.
I have decided to cheat and am using 4mg lozenges sprinkled in with hard candy.
I guess I am not officially quit until I exhaust this supply of nico replacement candies. About 160 left.
Til then I am going to be in limbo.
Dude! First, I want to commend you for recognizing that you are a slave. That is the first step in the process, so it is good that you have made I that far.
Unfortunately, that is where the congratulations stop. You need to change 3 things before you really quit.
1. Mindset. You haven't quit before, you have taken little breaks in the past. This time, when you are ready, you are gonna quit. You must change your mindset to reflect this very key change.
2. Goal. Your goal is to be quit for you. Not for your wife. Not for your kids. For you. You have to want this more than you have ever wanted anything, and you've got to be ready to dig in and fight for it.
3. Approach. Take nicotine out of the equation for a minute. Let's say you were an alcoholic looking to quit. And you came to our esteemed group and posted that "I drink 1.75L of vodka every day, but I'm looking to quit! From here out I'm going to drink 1.0L of gin until I run out (30 bottles.). Wish me luck!" This is addict approach, not a successful one.
Spit out the losenges. Flush them. Rid you house if all poison. Change your mindset. Establish your goal. And goddamn quit!
I am a few days short of 300 days of freedom from the bear here. I set myself free in Christmas Eve 2012 after 25 years. If I can do it, you can do it. The people on this site will dig in their heels and pull/push you along, but you gotta be ready for the push. Until them, you'll be drinking gin and tonics.
I won't go into telling you how every aspect of life is markedly better without kodiak. I think you know that. This is probably the hardest thing I've ever done, and probably the most personally rewarding. You can do this, provided you un-mind-fuck yourself. Sorry for the bluntness, but you get what I'm saying. Let us know when you are ready. We will help you. And you can do this.
Welcome all the best to you when you decide to really get this done. Listen to W2W, he knows what he's talking about in this, he's managed to drag me along this far. It's possible to be completely quit. I'm 58 days in, after nearly 20 years myself. My whole adult life. That sounds like a real long time it is. So healing won't happen overnight, but it can start now.
All the lozenges are going to do for you is prolong the agony suffering of the nic withdrawal. THey'll seem like they're helping, but in the end you're not getting enough to satisfy, yet you're getting enough to not face up to the symptoms. It's too much not enough all at the same time. You're starving the bear just as you've put your screename down, prolonging the pain. Rip that bandaid off quick I promise it does get better. yes you'll have all the help from everyone on this site that you could possibly imagine.
Once you can dump the lozenges, go find your Jan 14 group, post roll. I trust you know how this works once you decide to come out of limbo join us.
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You keep throwing the bear a few scraps and he's gonna stay alive, get pissed off and eat you instead. Throw that crap away, post your promise and get on with it. You can't quit until you quit and there isn't a whole lotta time left to get it done.
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Gentlemen- I looked at this site for a while during my last quit. I don't remember how long it lasted, or why I started again. But I know I didn't last long, and had no good reason to start again.
Been chewing Kodiak for 20 years. I chew like a madman. Every time I quit I come back chewing even harder.
I chew right before bed, and then stay up a while longer to have another.
First thing in the morning I throw in my dip dump. (How do people crap without chew?)
Then it's relentless chewing all day.
But I can't do this shit anymore.
Thought maybe if I posted here, I would stay stronger. My wife can't stop me, and apparently it's taken 3 years for my kids to get me to wise up enough to really consider turning my back on chew.
I have decided to cheat and am using 4mg lozenges sprinkled in with hard candy.
I guess I am not officially quit until I exhaust this supply of nico replacement candies. About 160 left.
Til then I am going to be in limbo.
Dude! First, I want to commend you for recognizing that you are a slave. That is the first step in the process, so it is good that you have made I that far.
Unfortunately, that is where the congratulations stop. You need to change 3 things before you really quit.
1. Mindset. You haven't quit before, you have taken little breaks in the past. This time, when you are ready, you are gonna quit. You must change your mindset to reflect this very key change.
2. Goal. Your goal is to be quit for you. Not for your wife. Not for your kids. For you. You have to want this more than you have ever wanted anything, and you've got to be ready to dig in and fight for it.
3. Approach. Take nicotine out of the equation for a minute. Let's say you were an alcoholic looking to quit. And you came to our esteemed group and posted that "I drink 1.75L of vodka every day, but I'm looking to quit! From here out I'm going to drink 1.0L of gin until I run out (30 bottles.). Wish me luck!" This is addict approach, not a successful one.
Spit out the losenges. Flush them. Rid you house if all poison. Change your mindset. Establish your goal. And goddamn quit!
I am a few days short of 300 days of freedom from the bear here. I set myself free in Christmas Eve 2012 after 25 years. If I can do it, you can do it. The people on this site will dig in their heels and pull/push you along, but you gotta be ready for the push. Until them, you'll be drinking gin and tonics.
I won't go into telling you how every aspect of life is markedly better without kodiak. I think you know that. This is probably the hardest thing I've ever done, and probably the most personally rewarding. You can do this, provided you un-mind-fuck yourself. Sorry for the bluntness, but you get what I'm saying. Let us know when you are ready. We will help you. And you can do this.
Welcome all the best to you when you decide to really get this done. Listen to W2W, he knows what he's talking about in this, he's managed to drag me along this far. It's possible to be completely quit. I'm 58 days in, after nearly 20 years myself. My whole adult life. That sounds like a real long time it is. So healing won't happen overnight, but it can start now.
All the lozenges are going to do for you is prolong the agony suffering of the nic withdrawal. THey'll seem like they're helping, but in the end you're not getting enough to satisfy, yet you're getting enough to not face up to the symptoms. It's too much not enough all at the same time. You're starving the bear just as you've put your screename down, prolonging the pain. Rip that bandaid off quick I promise it does get better. yes you'll have all the help from everyone on this site that you could possibly imagine.
Once you can dump the lozenges, go find your Jan 14 group, post roll. I trust you know how this works once you decide to come out of limbo join us.
I can't add to much to all these fine words from people who know how to quit.
Question! 160 nicotine candies? Did you like,, count them right before this post? How accurate are you? Just wondering, maybe you need to count again, you could be off a little. Maybe you need to separate them in one of them little daily pill boxes. That way you can have the same amount everyday.
Another question! How do them candies taste? Are they flavored like mints or lifesavers. I've never tried them. I can tell you how they would taste to me though. Like SLAVERY and DEATH!!!
Man up and quit bro,, stop the madness. 160 candies left!! Look at your self. This addiction has got you counting nicotine candies. Dig deep and and let's do this for real. No more stoppages. Let's really quit. Your move!!
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I don't know if I could add anything that would help you at this point. When you are really tired of being the little bitch to nicotine, throw the shit where it rightfully belongs, join our little band of fighters that is over 16,000 members strong, get involved and post roll. Until then, covet your candy and enjoy the regrets. Come on back when you are ready to take charge of your life. We are quitters, not procrastinators.
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Gentlemen- I looked at this site for a while during my last quit. I don't remember how long it lasted, or why I started again. But I know I didn't last long, and had no good reason to start again.
Been chewing Kodiak for 20 years. I chew like a madman. Every time I quit I come back chewing even harder.
I chew right before bed, and then stay up a while longer to have another.
First thing in the morning I throw in my dip dump. (How do people crap without chew?)
Then it's relentless chewing all day.
But I can't do this shit anymore.
Thought maybe if I posted here, I would stay stronger. My wife can't stop me, and apparently it's taken 3 years for my kids to get me to wise up enough to really consider turning my back on chew.
I have decided to cheat and am using 4mg lozenges sprinkled in with hard candy.
I guess I am not officially quit until I exhaust this supply of nico replacement candies. About 160 left.
Til then I am going to be in limbo.
Dude! First, I want to commend you for recognizing that you are a slave. That is the first step in the process, so it is good that you have made I that far.
Unfortunately, that is where the congratulations stop. You need to change 3 things before you really quit.
1. Mindset. You haven't quit before, you have taken little breaks in the past. This time, when you are ready, you are gonna quit. You must change your mindset to reflect this very key change.
2. Goal. Your goal is to be quit for you. Not for your wife. Not for your kids. For you. You have to want this more than you have ever wanted anything, and you've got to be ready to dig in and fight for it.
3. Approach. Take nicotine out of the equation for a minute. Let's say you were an alcoholic looking to quit. And you came to our esteemed group and posted that "I drink 1.75L of vodka every day, but I'm looking to quit! From here out I'm going to drink 1.0L of gin until I run out (30 bottles.). Wish me luck!" This is addict approach, not a successful one.
Spit out the losenges. Flush them. Rid you house if all poison. Change your mindset. Establish your goal. And goddamn quit!
I am a few days short of 300 days of freedom from the bear here. I set myself free in Christmas Eve 2012 after 25 years. If I can do it, you can do it. The people on this site will dig in their heels and pull/push you along, but you gotta be ready for the push. Until them, you'll be drinking gin and tonics.
I won't go into telling you how every aspect of life is markedly better without kodiak. I think you know that. This is probably the hardest thing I've ever done, and probably the most personally rewarding. You can do this, provided you un-mind-fuck yourself. Sorry for the bluntness, but you get what I'm saying. Let us know when you are ready. We will help you. And you can do this.
Welcome all the best to you when you decide to really get this done. Listen to W2W, he knows what he's talking about in this, he's managed to drag me along this far. It's possible to be completely quit. I'm 58 days in, after nearly 20 years myself. My whole adult life. That sounds like a real long time it is. So healing won't happen overnight, but it can start now.
All the lozenges are going to do for you is prolong the agony suffering of the nic withdrawal. THey'll seem like they're helping, but in the end you're not getting enough to satisfy, yet you're getting enough to not face up to the symptoms. It's too much not enough all at the same time. You're starving the bear just as you've put your screename down, prolonging the pain. Rip that bandaid off quick I promise it does get better. yes you'll have all the help from everyone on this site that you could possibly imagine.
Once you can dump the lozenges, go find your Jan 14 group, post roll. I trust you know how this works once you decide to come out of limbo join us.
I can't add to much to all these fine words from people who know how to quit.
Question! 160 nicotine candies? Did you like,, count them right before this post? How accurate are you? Just wondering, maybe you need to count again, you could be off a little. Maybe you need to separate them in one of them little daily pill boxes. That way you can have the same amount everyday.
Another question! How do them candies taste? Are they flavored like mints or lifesavers. I've never tried them. I can tell you how they would taste to me though. Like SLAVERY and DEATH!!!
Man up and quit bro,, stop the madness. 160 candies left!! Look at your self. This addiction has got you counting nicotine candies. Dig deep and and let's do this for real. No more stoppages. Let's really quit. Your move!!
Do or Do Not...There is No Try.
Cancer will not be gentle. Cancer will be harsh and violent, therefore you need to grow a big pair and man the fuck up and be who you are suppose to be. YOU were not born with the poison in your mouth! Were you?
Do it Today. Then do it again Today. and before you know it you will "be quit" one day at a time....after all, is there really any other way? For me it's the KTC way or Death. I choose Freedom and Life! You can too be free and live your life like you know that you can.
Cheers.
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Gentlemen- I looked at this site for a while during my last quit. I don't remember how long it lasted, or why I started again. But I know I didn't last long, and had no good reason to start again.
Been chewing Kodiak for 20 years. I chew like a madman. Every time I quit I come back chewing even harder.
I chew right before bed, and then stay up a while longer to have another.
First thing in the morning I throw in my dip dump. (How do people crap without chew?)
Then it's relentless chewing all day.
But I can't do this shit anymore.
Thought maybe if I posted here, I would stay stronger. My wife can't stop me, and apparently it's taken 3 years for my kids to get me to wise up enough to really consider turning my back on chew.
I have decided to cheat and am using 4mg lozenges sprinkled in with hard candy.
I guess I am not officially quit until I exhaust this supply of nico replacement candies. About 160 left.
Til then I am going to be in limbo.
Dude! First, I want to commend you for recognizing that you are a slave. That is the first step in the process, so it is good that you have made I that far.
Unfortunately, that is where the congratulations stop. You need to change 3 things before you really quit.
1. Mindset. You haven't quit before, you have taken little breaks in the past. This time, when you are ready, you are gonna quit. You must change your mindset to reflect this very key change.
2. Goal. Your goal is to be quit for you. Not for your wife. Not for your kids. For you. You have to want this more than you have ever wanted anything, and you've got to be ready to dig in and fight for it.
3. Approach. Take nicotine out of the equation for a minute. Let's say you were an alcoholic looking to quit. And you came to our esteemed group and posted that "I drink 1.75L of vodka every day, but I'm looking to quit! From here out I'm going to drink 1.0L of gin until I run out (30 bottles.). Wish me luck!" This is addict approach, not a successful one.
Spit out the losenges. Flush them. Rid you house if all poison. Change your mindset. Establish your goal. And goddamn quit!
I am a few days short of 300 days of freedom from the bear here. I set myself free in Christmas Eve 2012 after 25 years. If I can do it, you can do it. The people on this site will dig in their heels and pull/push you along, but you gotta be ready for the push. Until them, you'll be drinking gin and tonics.
I won't go into telling you how every aspect of life is markedly better without kodiak. I think you know that. This is probably the hardest thing I've ever done, and probably the most personally rewarding. You can do this, provided you un-mind-fuck yourself. Sorry for the bluntness, but you get what I'm saying. Let us know when you are ready. We will help you. And you can do this.
Welcome all the best to you when you decide to really get this done. Listen to W2W, he knows what he's talking about in this, he's managed to drag me along this far. It's possible to be completely quit. I'm 58 days in, after nearly 20 years myself. My whole adult life. That sounds like a real long time it is. So healing won't happen overnight, but it can start now.
All the lozenges are going to do for you is prolong the agony suffering of the nic withdrawal. THey'll seem like they're helping, but in the end you're not getting enough to satisfy, yet you're getting enough to not face up to the symptoms. It's too much not enough all at the same time. You're starving the bear just as you've put your screename down, prolonging the pain. Rip that bandaid off quick I promise it does get better. yes you'll have all the help from everyone on this site that you could possibly imagine.
Once you can dump the lozenges, go find your Jan 14 group, post roll. I trust you know how this works once you decide to come out of limbo join us.
I can't add to much to all these fine words from people who know how to quit.
Question! 160 nicotine candies? Did you like,, count them right before this post? How accurate are you? Just wondering, maybe you need to count again, you could be off a little. Maybe you need to separate them in one of them little daily pill boxes. That way you can have the same amount everyday.
Another question! How do them candies taste? Are they flavored like mints or lifesavers. I've never tried them. I can tell you how they would taste to me though. Like SLAVERY and DEATH!!!
Man up and quit bro,, stop the madness. 160 candies left!! Look at your self. This addiction has got you counting nicotine candies. Dig deep and and let's do this for real. No more stoppages. Let's really quit. Your move!!
Do or Do Not...There is No Try.
Cancer will not be gentle. Cancer will be harsh and violent, therefore you need to grow a big pair and man the fuck up and be who you are suppose to be. YOU were not born with the poison in your mouth! Were you?
Do it Today. Then do it again Today. and before you know it you will "be quit" one day at a time....after all, is there really any other way? For me it's the KTC way or Death. I choose Freedom and Life! You can too be free and live your life like you know that you can.
Cheers.
You got it straight from the bad assed quitters above, and all I can add is for you to read everything on this website so as to educate yourself about the poison. Start with the welcome center and then read some intro threads from start to current. You will see that all of us nicotine addicts have very similar stories, and that quitting is best done today. Get through day 1 and you can do it again on day 2.
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Thanks for the replies guys. Except for the kook talking about counting lozenges. He can fuck off.
And the box says how many there are, bitch.
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I see you down there STB. You got some damn solid advice from a whole bunch of bad ass quitters. Better take it to heart. Dump all that nic candy and get the show on the road.
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Thanks for the replies guys. Except for the kook talking about counting lozenges. He can fuck off.
And the box says how many there are, bitch.
So does this mean you tossed them?
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Thanks for the replies guys. Except for the kook talking about counting lozenges. He can fuck off.
And the box says how many there are, bitch.
So does this mean you tossed them?
No. I am going to use them.
While I understand the concept that using them is prolonging the pain a bit, I also see the benefits of being a little more even keeled for a few weeks while adjusting to the psychological aspects, then going full blast at that point.
Anyway, I don't get the hostility towards them. Quitting has to be as painful as possible or it doesn't mean as much?
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Thanks for the replies guys. Except for the kook talking about counting lozenges. He can fuck off.
And the box says how many there are, bitch.
So does this mean you tossed them?
No. I am going to use them.
While I understand the concept that using them is prolonging the pain a bit, I also see the benefits of being a little more even keeled for a few weeks while adjusting to the psychological aspects, then going full blast at that point.
Anyway, I don't get the hostility towards them. Quitting has to be as painful as possible or it doesn't mean as much?
can you asplaine what these 'sycological aspects' are so as we can help you under stand why you aint doin your self any favers by usin these candys?
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Thanks for the replies guys. Except for the kook talking about counting lozenges. He can fuck off.
And the box says how many there are, bitch.
So does this mean you tossed them?
No. I am going to use them.
While I understand the concept that using them is prolonging the pain a bit, I also see the benefits of being a little more even keeled for a few weeks while adjusting to the psychological aspects, then going full blast at that point.
Anyway, I don't get the hostility towards them. Quitting has to be as painful as possible or it doesn't mean as much?
can you asplaine what these 'sycological aspects' are so as we can help you under stand why you aint doin your self any favers by usin these candys?
You are not quitting if you continue to use nicotine. You are trading one delivery method for another. Don't fool yourself into thinking this is a legitimate plan. It's a plan that will lead straight back to well a little pinch won't hurt.
Are you a man of your word? Is making a promise something you value?
We have all done this. Proof it can be done. You can do it too. Post your word. Keep your word. Repeat.
Make it happen.
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Thanks for the replies guys. Except for the kook talking about counting lozenges. He can fuck off.
And the box says how many there are, bitch.
So does this mean you tossed them?
No. I am going to use them.
While I understand the concept that using them is prolonging the pain a bit, I also see the benefits of being a little more even keeled for a few weeks while adjusting to the psychological aspects, then going full blast at that point.
Anyway, I don't get the hostility towards them. Quitting has to be as painful as possible or it doesn't mean as much?
can you asplaine what these 'sycological aspects' are so as we can help you under stand why you aint doin your self any favers by usin these candys?
You are not quitting if you continue to use nicotine. You are trading one delivery method for another. Don't fool yourself into thinking this is a legitimate plan. It's a plan that will lead straight back to well a little pinch won't hurt.
Are you a man of your word? Is making a promise something you value?
We have all done this. Proof it can be done. You can do it too. Post your word. Keep your word. Repeat.
Make it happen.
You will be in the same place whether you quit today or wait until you suck on your 160 lozenges.
You body will be craving a nicotine fix. I got a neighbor that has been chewing nicotine laced gum for the entire 10 years I've known him. That guys would smoke if he didn't have emphysema. Now that guy is a kook.
We have done all done this and it is the best route. Cold turkey. Toss that crap and quit now. Otherwise, let me know how long your 160 lozenges will last and check back when you want to quit.
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Thanks for the replies guys. Except for the kook talking about counting lozenges. He can fuck off.
And the box says how many there are, bitch.
So does this mean you tossed them?
No. I am going to use them.
While I understand the concept that using them is prolonging the pain a bit, I also see the benefits of being a little more even keeled for a few weeks while adjusting to the psychological aspects, then going full blast at that point.
Anyway, I don't get the hostility towards them. Quitting has to be as painful as possible or it doesn't mean as much?
can you asplaine what these 'sycological aspects' are so as we can help you under stand why you aint doin your self any favers by usin these candys?
You are not quitting if you continue to use nicotine. You are trading one delivery method for another. Don't fool yourself into thinking this is a legitimate plan. It's a plan that will lead straight back to well a little pinch won't hurt.
Are you a man of your word? Is making a promise something you value?
We have all done this. Proof it can be done. You can do it too. Post your word. Keep your word. Repeat.
Make it happen.
You will be in the same place whether you quit today or wait until you suck on your 160 lozenges.
You body will be craving a nicotine fix. I got a neighbor that has been chewing nicotine laced gum for the entire 10 years I've known him. That guys would smoke if he didn't have emphysema. Now that guy is a kook.
We have done all done this and it is the best route. Cold turkey. Toss that crap and quit now. Otherwise, let me know how long your 160 lozenges will last and check back when you want to quit.
If you are treated roughly it's because we care and because we have all been through it man. I recommend you sack up, toss the nicotine and get to quitting with us the KTC way. It takes a badass to quit nicotine, to give your word not to use today and keep it. You see, nicotine pisses us off and we know that addicts like ourselves will bullshit and justify to keep using. We use tough love and accountability to shake the poison's hold and earn our freedom.
That's just how we roll here, I hope you step up with us, if not than you will be missing out on the sweet taste of freedom!
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Thanks for the replies guys. Except for the kook talking about counting lozenges. He can fuck off.
And the box says how many there are, bitch.
So does this mean you tossed them?
No. I am going to use them.
While I understand the concept that using them is prolonging the pain a bit, I also see the benefits of being a little more even keeled for a few weeks while adjusting to the psychological aspects, then going full blast at that point.
Anyway, I don't get the hostility towards them. Quitting has to be as painful as possible or it doesn't mean as much?
can you asplaine what these 'sycological aspects' are so as we can help you under stand why you aint doin your self any favers by usin these candys?
You are not quitting if you continue to use nicotine. You are trading one delivery method for another. Don't fool yourself into thinking this is a legitimate plan. It's a plan that will lead straight back to well a little pinch won't hurt.
Are you a man of your word? Is making a promise something you value?
We have all done this. Proof it can be done. You can do it too. Post your word. Keep your word. Repeat.
Make it happen.
You will be in the same place whether you quit today or wait until you suck on your 160 lozenges.
You body will be craving a nicotine fix. I got a neighbor that has been chewing nicotine laced gum for the entire 10 years I've known him. That guys would smoke if he didn't have emphysema. Now that guy is a kook.
We have done all done this and it is the best route. Cold turkey. Toss that crap and quit now. Otherwise, let me know how long your 160 lozenges will last and check back when you want to quit.
If you are treated roughly it's because we care and because we have all been through it man. I recommend you sack up, toss the nicotine and get to quitting with us the KTC way. It takes a badass to quit nicotine, to give your word not to use today and keep it. You see, nicotine pisses us off and we know that addicts like ourselves will bullshit and justify to keep using. We use tough love and accountability to shake the poison's hold and earn our freedom.
That's just how we roll here, I hope you step up with us, if not than you will be missing out on the sweet taste of freedom!
Man, Starvin the Bear, if I had started out 29 days ago with nic candies I would still be on day one now. It was suggested to me by a professional that I should consider nic replacement therapy. It told them after a week that I never used them, and was doing fine without.
These guys posting back to you right now are your best friends you could ever have, but only if you want to quit. When it comes down to it you have to decide not to use any nicotine today. That's all. I a, a newbie here but you have to do this way or it won't work! Good Luck starving the bear with the lozenges!!! He won't ever go hungry again!!!
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Thanks for the replies guys. Except for the kook talking about counting lozenges. He can fuck off.
And the box says how many there are, bitch.
So does this mean you tossed them?
No. I am going to use them.
While I understand the concept that using them is prolonging the pain a bit, I also see the benefits of being a little more even keeled for a few weeks while adjusting to the psychological aspects, then going full blast at that point.
Anyway, I don't get the hostility towards them. Quitting has to be as painful as possible or it doesn't mean as much?
Ok, hopefully this is the part where my past mistake can be paid forward to YOU. I'm going to bump my intro thread. Read it from the very beginning. I also had the nicotine candies but thankfully I refused to use them.
Some of the badass quitters in YOUR thread also posted in MY Intro thread (Julud007, Pinched, Derk, Srans, Zam, Ron Cross, et.al) They ALL recommended for me to trash the stash. They also sent me PM's warning me and trying to reach out to me. I was an IDIOT!!! A very fortunate idiot but still an idiot, nonetheless. I deserved every negative comment in my intro. I later went back and thanked the guys for caring enough to chew on my ass.
Dump those nic candies. Destroy them. I will quit with you. Not wanting to toss 160 is the same as not wanting to toss 40, 20, 10, 5, etc. It's in your head.
Oh, btw, is it harder to quit cancer or quit nicotine? Quite a few of us have had cancer scares, and others still have had to face the worst of it.
Listen to these guys. Again, I'm nothing special, but I KNOW you can learn from my mistake if you will merely take a little time to read my intro thread for YOUR benefit.
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This is a NO NICOTINE site. No exceptions, no excuses, no bullshit. This site is for bad ass quitters. If you want to eat nicotine candy, then get lost. But if you want to get in the ring and go toe to toe with the Nic Bitch and earn your freedom one day at a time, then flush your stupid fucking nicotine candy, sack up and join us.
Nobody is going to do this for you. YOU HAVE TO DECIDE TO BE FREE. I can't wait to be quit with you. But you have to take the first step.
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Thanks for the replies guys. Except for the kook talking about counting lozenges. He can fuck off.
And the box says how many there are, bitch.
So does this mean you tossed them?
No. I am going to use them.
While I understand the concept that using them is prolonging the pain a bit, I also see the benefits of being a little more even keeled for a few weeks while adjusting to the psychological aspects, then going full blast at that point.
Anyway, I don't get the hostility towards them. Quitting has to be as painful as possible or it doesn't mean as much?
Ok, hopefully this is the part where my past mistake can be paid forward to YOU. I'm going to bump my intro thread. Read it from the very beginning. I also had the nicotine candies but thankfully I refused to use them.
Some of the badass quitters in YOUR thread also posted in MY Intro thread (Julud007, Pinched, Derk, Srans, Zam, Ron Cross, et.al) They ALL recommended for me to trash the stash. They also sent me PM's warning me and trying to reach out to me. I was an IDIOT!!! A very fortunate idiot but still an idiot, nonetheless. I deserved every negative comment in my intro. I later went back and thanked the guys for caring enough to chew on my ass.
Dump those nic candies. Destroy them. I will quit with you. Not wanting to toss 160 is the same as not wanting to toss 40, 20, 10, 5, etc. It's in your head.
Oh, btw, is it harder to quit cancer or quit nicotine? Quite a few of us have had cancer scares, and others still have had to face the worst of it.
Listen to these guys. Again, I'm nothing special, but I KNOW you can learn from my mistake if you will merely take a little time to read my intro thread for YOUR benefit.
It would do you well to begin listening. Somewhere in you there is a quitter,, i know it. That's the person I'm trying to reach. I would like to meet this person.
I spoke of your comment of 160 lozenges because i see where i use to be. I remember shaking that can to see how much was left. I knew how much was left by just the feel. How Sad...
It wasn't long ago i wondered if another delivery method would work. I was willing to try anything. Thank God i found this site and learned the truth. You can do this,,, you just don't know it. Start reading and listening. Lot of quit going on here. I love my new life. What do you say you take yours back? Stop believing the lies.
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Thanks for the replies guys. Except for the kook talking about counting lozenges. He can fuck off.
And the box says how many there are, bitch.
So does this mean you tossed them?
No. I am going to use them.
While I understand the concept that using them is prolonging the pain a bit, I also see the benefits of being a little more even keeled for a few weeks while adjusting to the psychological aspects, then going full blast at that point.
Anyway, I don't get the hostility towards them. Quitting has to be as painful as possible or it doesn't mean as much?
No, its not about making your quit as painful as possible. Its about how stupid it is to try to quit nicotine by sucking nicotine lozenges. This only makes sense in the mind of an addict.
There are no short cuts, my friend.
At some point you're going to go thru the "suck" just like the rest of us. However, it sounds like you are gonna keep obeying that "addiction voice" in your head and drag it out for a few weeks first... Your addiction is gonna tell your mind anything it has to, to continue getting fed. Right now it is convincing you that nicotine lozenges are the best way to quit. Yes, I know that voice.
Question for you: Do you think you know the best way to quit nicotine (having never done so successfully, obviously) - or do you think several thousand successful quitters know the best way?
EDIT: here's a link you need to read:
http://www.killthecan.org/additional-re ... -products/ (http://www.killthecan.org/additional-resources/how-effective-are-over-the-counter-nrt-products/)
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Thanks for the replies guys. Except for the kook talking about counting lozenges. He can fuck off.
And the box says how many there are, bitch.
So does this mean you tossed them?
No. I am going to use them.
While I understand the concept that using them is prolonging the pain a bit, I also see the benefits of being a little more even keeled for a few weeks while adjusting to the psychological aspects, then going full blast at that point.
Anyway, I don't get the hostility towards them. Quitting has to be as painful as possible or it doesn't mean as much?
Ok, hopefully this is the part where my past mistake can be paid forward to YOU. I'm going to bump my intro thread. Read it from the very beginning. I also had the nicotine candies but thankfully I refused to use them.
Some of the badass quitters in YOUR thread also posted in MY Intro thread (Julud007, Pinched, Derk, Srans, Zam, Ron Cross, et.al) They ALL recommended for me to trash the stash. They also sent me PM's warning me and trying to reach out to me. I was an IDIOT!!! A very fortunate idiot but still an idiot, nonetheless. I deserved every negative comment in my intro. I later went back and thanked the guys for caring enough to chew on my ass.
Dump those nic candies. Destroy them. I will quit with you. Not wanting to toss 160 is the same as not wanting to toss 40, 20, 10, 5, etc. It's in your head.
Oh, btw, is it harder to quit cancer or quit nicotine? Quite a few of us have had cancer scares, and others still have had to face the worst of it.
Listen to these guys. Again, I'm nothing special, but I KNOW you can learn from my mistake if you will merely take a little time to read my intro thread for YOUR benefit.
It would do you well to begin listening. Somewhere in you there is a quitter,, i know it. That's the person I'm trying to reach. I would like to meet this person.
I spoke of your comment of 160 lozenges because i see where i use to be. I remember shaking that can to see how much was left. I knew how much was left by just the feel. How Sad...
It wasn't long ago i wondered if another delivery method would work. I was willing to try anything. Thank God i found this site and learned the truth. You can do this,,, you just don't know it. Start reading and listening. Lot of quit going on here. I love my new life. What do you say you take yours back? Stop believing the lies.
This is probably one of the hardest things you will ever do in your life. Nicotine is wicked addictive. Those of us that have reached out to you are quit and very passionate about being quit. Very. The statistics on being successful are discouraging. 100% of the people that have responded to you are quit. Including that kook Srans (hahaha). There is a reason we are in the 100% club - because we bought into the ktc plan and system. We quit cold turkey. We post our promise daily and we stick to our word. We pay it backward and forward. It is the only thing that we know that works. And it does work.
I really hope that you join us. The first days suck. Badly. But not as badly as the consequences of cancer. I'm not trying to be an alarmist or a kook (like Srans hahaha) I just really want to make sure that you understand that we are your friends, and we have an obligation to be very tough when you are fighting for your life. And that is what you are doing. Fight the fight in a way that you will win. Our system works!
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This is a NO NICOTINE site. No exceptions, no excuses, no bullshit. This site is for bad ass quitters. If you want to eat nicotine candy, then get lost. But if you want to get in the ring and go toe to toe with the Nic Bitch and earn your freedom one day at a time, then flush your stupid fucking nicotine candy, sack up and join us. Â
Nobody is going to do this for you. YOU HAVE TO DECIDE TO BE FREE. I can't wait to be quit with you. But you have to take the first step.
I was wondering when someone would say that.
You can't play with us with nicotine in your system.....
I do agree that Srans is a kook...I mean he wouldn't let me dip at all when I quit and he held me accountable for my own word. Now he has pretty much ruined dipping for me as I seldom even think about it now and I have an extra $5 each day that I don't know what to do with... :o
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This is a NO NICOTINE site. No exceptions, no excuses, no bullshit. This site is for bad ass quitters. If you want to eat nicotine candy, then get lost. But if you want to get in the ring and go toe to toe with the Nic Bitch and earn your freedom one day at a time, then flush your stupid fucking nicotine candy, sack up and join us. Â
Nobody is going to do this for you. YOU HAVE TO DECIDE TO BE FREE. I can't wait to be quit with you. But you have to take the first step.
I was wondering when someone would say that.
You can't play with us with nicotine in your system.....
I do agree that Srans is a kook...I mean he wouldn't let me dip at all when I quit and he held me accountable for my own word. Now he has pretty much ruined dipping for me as I seldom even think about it now and I have an extra $5 each day that I don't know what to do with... :o
FWIW....
I don't agree with STB's choice by any stretch. Nor does any active member of KTC. However, posting in the intro thread while using any form of NRT is allowed. I would encourage STB to continue the discourse in this thread. I would also encourage each and every quitter here to present the case on why he is wrong in his approach.
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Thanks for the replies guys. Except for the kook talking about counting lozenges. He can fuck off.
And the box says how many there are, bitch.
So does this mean you tossed them?
No. I am going to use them.
While I understand the concept that using them is prolonging the pain a bit, I also see the benefits of being a little more even keeled for a few weeks while adjusting to the psychological aspects, then going full blast at that point.
Anyway, I don't get the hostility towards them. Quitting has to be as painful as possible or it doesn't mean as much?
Ok, hopefully this is the part where my past mistake can be paid forward to YOU. I'm going to bump my intro thread. Read it from the very beginning. I also had the nicotine candies but thankfully I refused to use them.
Some of the badass quitters in YOUR thread also posted in MY Intro thread (Julud007, Pinched, Derk, Srans, Zam, Ron Cross, et.al) They ALL recommended for me to trash the stash. They also sent me PM's warning me and trying to reach out to me. I was an IDIOT!!! A very fortunate idiot but still an idiot, nonetheless. I deserved every negative comment in my intro. I later went back and thanked the guys for caring enough to chew on my ass.
Dump those nic candies. Destroy them. I will quit with you. Not wanting to toss 160 is the same as not wanting to toss 40, 20, 10, 5, etc. It's in your head.
Oh, btw, is it harder to quit cancer or quit nicotine? Quite a few of us have had cancer scares, and others still have had to face the worst of it.
Listen to these guys. Again, I'm nothing special, but I KNOW you can learn from my mistake if you will merely take a little time to read my intro thread for YOUR benefit.
It would do you well to begin listening. Somewhere in you there is a quitter,, i know it. That's the person I'm trying to reach. I would like to meet this person.
I spoke of your comment of 160 lozenges because i see where i use to be. I remember shaking that can to see how much was left. I knew how much was left by just the feel. How Sad...
It wasn't long ago i wondered if another delivery method would work. I was willing to try anything. Thank God i found this site and learned the truth. You can do this,,, you just don't know it. Start reading and listening. Lot of quit going on here. I love my new life. What do you say you take yours back? Stop believing the lies.
I knew exactly what you meant Srans, haven't we all been there? Wondering how much is left in the can, wondering if we can just dole it out a bit to make it last a little longer. Wondering if the secret stash can is still in the truck console to make that long road trip or not wanting to rely on the other one thats still in your golf bag from last year since it's bound to be sand by now.
Isn't counting out 160 candies, or reading the count on the box, the same thing? FIguring out how many per day you can use so it's how many days left till you have to quit. Lets see if I had 160 candies, limited my use to only 4/day (you'll remember in my intro thread I was that guy with a can of Cope too which meant I never had to try quitting because I was always in control of it). That'd be 40 days the candies could last me! So instead of being 58 days into the healing process, I'd be back on the can for only 2 weeks or so after the candies ran out.
Starving, I can understand not wanting to face up to all the quit symptoms at once. At day 58 I'm still using fake dip, probably more than I ever did the real shit. Because I'm not yet ready to deal with the oral/physical issues. That's fine though you won't be all healed at once. But deal with the nic addiction first! I still can hardly think of myself as an addict, but I do promise if you deal with that issue first, the rest of the psychological issues such will be easier to deal with. Tackle the biggest one first the rest will seem easy by comparison.
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Thanks for the replies guys. Except for the kook talking about counting lozenges. He can fuck off.
And the box says how many there are, bitch.
Oh one more thing....
This post really reads to me like it was posted out of dip rage. Please tell me if I'm wrong, I'm fine if it's not, I don't mind being wrong. Ask yourself if it is though because if that post was written with some dip rage going on, which would be normal enough, then the candies aren't working.
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Starving the Bear, we don't starve bears here. We fuckn kill em. Maybe you should go join the Girl Scouts till your ready to man up. Here. We quit dude. If you want to kill the bear and quit, this is the place. The wisdom that folks have shared with you are true words that will lead to freedom. There are 2 people inside you right now. The Free Man - he's the one encouraging you. Telling you that you actually have a set of balls and that you can take control of this addiction. The other person is Addicted Man - that man says you will never be free. Tells you things like wean yourself down. Robs you of hope by reminding you of all your failures in the past. The words of wisdom being given to you here are from Free Men. It's your choice. But I'll tell you something. The taste of freedom is awesome. Addiction never tasted this good. Never will. Never could.
My advice? Reach down and grab your balls and lets get going. Here we quit One Day At A Time. And we Quit Together !!!
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So sad. A "man" with no sack, sucking on a nic tac.
You think your doing yourself a favor...you're not. Giving it ALL up NOW, is the play here, sport. We know from experience.
A fall down drunk who chugs vodka out of the bottle doesn't decide they are gonna sober up by finishing off 5 cases of beer first.
If you're truly serious about quitting, eventually you're going to have to rid yourself completely of all forms of nicotine, and its gonna suck.
When that last nic tac is gone you're going to have to make a choice. You gonna take your little pacifier and finally throw it out, and decide to grow the fuck up? or are you gonna find more reasons to keep nursing on the teet of nicotine?
If you decide you wanna man up, we are here for you. You decide you wanna keep nic tac patty whacking, then best of LUCK to you.
You will need it.
Up to you, bub.
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So sad. A "man" with no sack, sucking on a nic tac.
You think your doing yourself a favor...you're not. Giving it ALL up NOW, is the play here, sport. We know from experience.
A fall down drunk who chugs vodka out of the bottle doesn't decide they are gonna sober up by finishing off 5 cases of beer first.
If you're truly serious about quitting, eventually you're going to have to rid yourself completely of all forms of nicotine, and its gonna suck.
When that last nic tac is gone you're going to have to make a choice. You gonna take your little pacifier and finally throw it out, and decide to grow the fuck up? or are you gonna find more reasons to keep nursing on the teet of nicotine?
If you decide you wanna man up, we are here for you. You decide you wanna keep nic tac patty whacking, then best of LUCK to you.
You will need it.
Up to you, bub.
Nic tac,,,, I'm thinking we have another kook here.
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So.... are we beating a dead horse... or is there a quitter in you today STB.. ?
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So sad. A "man" with no sack, sucking on a nic tac.
You think your doing yourself a favor...you're not. Giving it ALL up NOW, is the play here, sport. We know from experience.
A fall down drunk who chugs vodka out of the bottle doesn't decide they are gonna sober up by finishing off 5 cases of beer first.
If you're truly serious about quitting, eventually you're going to have to rid yourself completely of all forms of nicotine, and its gonna suck.
When that last nic tac is gone you're going to have to make a choice. You gonna take your little pacifier and finally throw it out, and decide to grow the fuck up? or are you gonna find more reasons to keep nursing on the teet of nicotine?
If you decide you wanna man up, we are here for you. You decide you wanna keep nic tac patty whacking, then best of LUCK to you.
You will need it.
Up to you, bub.
Nic tac,,,, I'm thinking we have another kook here.
This is getting good. Guess the bear got his tongue.
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So sad. A "man" with no sack, sucking on a nic tac.
You think your doing yourself a favor...you're not. Giving it ALL up NOW, is the play here, sport. We know from experience.
A fall down drunk who chugs vodka out of the bottle doesn't decide they are gonna sober up by finishing off 5 cases of beer first.
If you're truly serious about quitting, eventually you're going to have to rid yourself completely of all forms of nicotine, and its gonna suck.
When that last nic tac is gone you're going to have to make a choice. You gonna take your little pacifier and finally throw it out, and decide to grow the fuck up? or are you gonna find more reasons to keep nursing on the teet of nicotine?
If you decide you wanna man up, we are here for you. You decide you wanna keep nic tac patty whacking, then best of LUCK to you.
You will need it.
Up to you, bub.
Nic tac,,,, I'm thinking we have another kook here.
This is getting good. Guess the bear got his tongue.
(Lmao @ Gdubya)
SavingtheBear,
Gdubya and the veteran/kook members gave it to you straight. One more thing for you to consider:
The nic bitch is always the boy dog in relationships (i.e. the humper, not the humpee). The only way to save your ass is to cut all ties.
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So sad. A "man" with no sack, sucking on a nic tac.
You think your doing yourself a favor...you're not. Giving it ALL up NOW, is the play here, sport. We know from experience.
A fall down drunk who chugs vodka out of the bottle doesn't decide they are gonna sober up by finishing off 5 cases of beer first.
If you're truly serious about quitting, eventually you're going to have to rid yourself completely of all forms of nicotine, and its gonna suck.
When that last nic tac is gone you're going to have to make a choice. You gonna take your little pacifier and finally throw it out, and decide to grow the fuck up? or are you gonna find more reasons to keep nursing on the teet of nicotine?
If you decide you wanna man up, we are here for you. You decide you wanna keep nic tac patty whacking, then best of LUCK to you.
You will need it.
Up to you, bub.
Nic tac,,,, I'm thinking we have another kook here.
This is getting good. Guess the bear got his tongue.
(Lmao @ Gdubya)
SavingtheBear,
Gdubya and the veteran/kook members gave it to you straight. One more thing for you to consider:
The nic bitch is always the boy dog in relationships (i.e. the humper, not the humpee). The only way to save your ass is to cut all ties.
QLF
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Time for a recount on them nicotine candies. How many you got left? How many days until you take your freedom back? How many days will you continue to love the poison more than yourself, wife, kids and family.
You can do it,,, you know How i know? I did!! Me and you are a lot different, but the same. We're both kooks for ever using the poison.
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You can do it,,, you know How i know? I did!! Me and you are a lot different, but the same. We're both kooks for ever using the poison.
Well Said!