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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: JJD on December 21, 2015, 01:40:00 PM
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I'm new to this board. I have been addicted to Copenhagen for 20 years chewing 1 can a day. I have tried and failed to quit many times with either the patch, lozenges or nic gum had some success and then relapsed. The problem I've always had is I always end up taking a real chew from someone else then its game over. I have decided to do this cold turkey this time with no nicotine. Is it alright to use fake chew like holt or am I just delaying the problem by not dealing with oral fixation? I'm on day 2 and its almost like I feel numb, I am struggling but will make it through today. Any advice is appreciated.
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JJD, you are in the right place. The price of admission to all of this wonderful advice and accountability from other Quitters is to POST ROLL. Roll is our promise to not use nicotine of any form for that 24 hour day. Tomorrow you will post roll again. Do it early and post every, single day. You will be in the Pre-HOF March Roll Group and there are documents on this site that will show you how to post roll, and I'll bet you can find a video of it on Youtube as well. Welcome!
FYI, the reason you never had success with lozenges and nic gum is that they contain nicotine, which you are addicted to. It would be like being alcoholic and switching from beer to vodka... doesn't work real well. The fake is just fine for now. Anything to keep you off nicotine, which is the real culprit. Seeds worked wonders for me early on, as well as hard candy, drink plenty of water (half gallon per day), and cranberry juice if you prefer to help detox the first week.
You've got this. See you on Roll
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Welcome JJD,
The Jerk is dead and on and a BA quitter. Follow what he does.
I would like to know why your quitting?
Knowing why you chewed and why your quitting is huge.
There is a lot of truth in these walls of KTC.
Search for it... it will set you free.
Regarding the fake...... you put what ever is slower than you... in your mouth.
Just avoid Nicotine.. its a lie.
No one has ever felt better using poison.
I quit with you today.
You can do this.
WELL DONE Posting Roll, Do it every Morning, 100%
Rawls 399
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I'm new to this board. I have been addicted to Copenhagen for 20 years chewing 1 can a day. I have tried and failed to quit many times with either the patch, lozenges or nic gum had some success and then relapsed. The problem I've always had is I always end up taking a real chew from someone else then its game over. I have decided to do this cold turkey this time with no nicotine. Is it alright to use fake chew like holt or am I just delaying the problem by not dealing with oral fixation? I'm on day 2 and its almost like I feel numb, I am struggling but will make it through today. Any advice is appreciated.
The fake is a good choice. As you make ground in your quit you will use it less. Day 135 here and I keep a can around for those possible cravings. Yes they still happen. Not as often though. Cold turkey you say? That's the only way to go about this. You will do this with the right mindset, posting roll and communicating with people in your quit group and people in this here thread you created. We are here for you and will do everything in our power to make sure you succeed. All you have to do is want it.
This is your home remember that. Come here and ask questions, basically to post a journal of yourself.
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Thanks to all of your responses and support. I am quitting because I am tired of it owning me, its hard to think that something that made me so sick the first time I tried it at 14 can take over your life by trying it a couple more times. I am now 34 married and have 3 little girls and don't think its fair to myself, my wife or my kids to keep using it. In the small farming and ranching community I live it is very common with probably around half the people my age who chew so its always been a battle. I am starting to have different symptoms now, I think I understand the foggy feeling. It is hard to concentrate to write this right now and physically my face, neck and chest are aching and vision is somewhat blurry. Hoping tomorrow is a little easier! I think its going to be important to remember this pain going forward to stop any temptations.
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Thanks to all of your responses and support. I am quitting because I am tired of it owning me, its hard to think that something that made me so sick the first time I tried it at 14 can take over your life by trying it a couple more times. I am now 34 married and have 3 little girls and don't think its fair to myself, my wife or my kids to keep using it. In the small farming and ranching community I live it is very common with probably around half the people my age who chew so its always been a battle. I am starting to have different symptoms now, I think I understand the foggy feeling. It is hard to concentrate to write this right now and physically my face, neck and chest are aching and vision is somewhat blurry. Hoping tomorrow is a little easier! I think its going to be important to remember this pain going forward to stop any temptations.
Same here brother. I was 13 when I tried Kodiak. World went spinning. I vomited and didn't touch it again for a while. Oh but when I did. I was hooked. I ended my relationship with Copenhagen Longcut. Was a Cope Snuff user the first 15years or so. Any way all that is in my past and yours as well now. 3 days and your system is rid of nicotine. 72 hours however we choose to look at it. After that the fun begins, it's tough and it can be done and will be done brother. I started out with seeds and gum, a couple weeks into it I was introduced to smokey mountain. I used it as I needed it. At times I thought I'm using more of this than I did the real thing. That's fine. No worries there.
Try and get you some fruit or healthy type snacks. You are going to be eating a lot. I ate the heck out of chocolate cookies which isn't good lol.
For real if I can help you let me know.
Remember, One Day At A Time is all you can do. Every Damn Day.
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Thanks to all of your responses and support. I am quitting because I am tired of it owning me, its hard to think that something that made me so sick the first time I tried it at 14 can take over your life by trying it a couple more times. I am now 34 married and have 3 little girls and don't think its fair to myself, my wife or my kids to keep using it. In the small farming and ranching community I live it is very common with probably around half the people my age who chew so its always been a battle. I am starting to have different symptoms now, I think I understand the foggy feeling. It is hard to concentrate to write this right now and physically my face, neck and chest are aching and vision is somewhat blurry. Hoping tomorrow is a little easier! I think its going to be important to remember this pain going forward to stop any temptations.
Same here brother. I was 13 when I tried Kodiak. World went spinning. I vomited and didn't touch it again for a while. Oh but when I did. I was hooked. I ended my relationship with Copenhagen Longcut. Was a Cope Snuff user the first 15years or so. Any way all that is in my past and yours as well now. 3 days and your system is rid of nicotine. 72 hours however we choose to look at it. After that the fun begins, it's tough and it can be done and will be done brother. I started out with seeds and gum, a couple weeks into it I was introduced to smokey mountain. I used it as I needed it. At times I thought I'm using more of this than I did the real thing. That's fine. No worries there.
Try and get you some fruit or healthy type snacks. You are going to be eating a lot. I ate the heck out of chocolate cookies which isn't good lol.
For real if I can help you let me know.
Remember, One Day At A Time is all you can do. Every Damn Day.
It is hard to concentrate to write this right now and physically my face, neck and chest are aching and vision is somewhat blurry
THAT ^^^^^ = FOG!
We have all done it.... You will make it.
One minute, one hour, one day, one night at a time.
Let water be your friend. Every time you think about it... Drown it!
You and I were lied too as young men.
I was raised in a John Deere dealership.... Everybody chewed something.
We shouldn't let our past make decisions for us today.
Proud to quit with you and your girls. ODAAT.
Rawls 400
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Thanks for the help! Today is a little better day I felt good when I woke up and then it turned on me for awhile. I would say its easier than yesterday and i'm ready to finish the rest of the day.
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Do you have some other quitters digits? A well timed quit text or even a voice to yell at can get you through a crave. Get to know the folks in your quit group as well.
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Here's to hoping today is a good day for you.
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Put everything you got into quitting. It should be the most important thing you are doing right now. You are saving your own life by doing this. Be honest with yourself and everybody. Great chance to clean up all your messes and live a new life of freedom. You just gotta commit and make it the most important thing. You can do it. One day at a time.
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Thanks, today was better for the most part must be starting to get the junk out of my system. Cravings come and go and are pretty intense but I've been able to deal with it and move on. For the most part I've been able to stay fairly upbeat without mood or irritability issues.(I hope that doesn't change) The support from all of you has been the reinforcement I've needed when things start to get tough so for that thank you! Looking forward to winning another battle tomorrow.
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Thanks, today was better for the most part must be starting to get the junk out of my system. Cravings come and go and are pretty intense but I've been able to deal with it and move on. For the most part I've been able to stay fairly upbeat without mood or irritability issues.(I hope that doesn't change) The support from all of you has been the reinforcement I've needed when things start to get tough so for that thank you! Looking forward to winning another battle tomorrow.
I see you posted a Day 4. In theory, you're nicotine free! How does freedom feel?
Now it's down to addiction and mind games. And those can be the hardest.
But, still, I figured by Day 3 and 4, I knew I could beat it. You can do. Get involved in your group. They know what you are going through.
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I sent you a text last night as we were dodging tornadoes and such. Glad to see you had a better day. Let me know if I can be an ear, voice or whatever. QUit on!
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Good job in keeping close to the site and posting roll. You may have the majority of poison out of your system but the battle is only beginning. Changing ways of dealing with those triggers that lead you to dipping must be dealt with and learning new coping skills can be a challenge. Stay close to your group, share numbers, come her to vent, use this tread to record your quit doing these things will help you succeed. Have a great dip free Christmas.
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JJD it really comes down to how bad you want it. Yes it's tough but so is alot of things in life. It's so damn worth it, its hard to put in words. Notice all the little moments that you're enjoying with your family without hunting your nasty ass bottle. Now that I look back I'm ashamed. Being healthy for are family, the best we can be is huge. Dipping is selfish, not to mention gross and killing us with every dip. Oh well, we're here,put on your big boy pants and do this. Quit on!
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By mistake I hit a wrong digit while trying to text you. I thank you for texting me earlier. Sounds like you are having a good time with the quit right now. Rock on! We have got your back brother.
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Pab 1964 I have been ashamed of it also. My 2 year old would act like she was spitting like me all the time and always trying to hand me my can and then halving a spit bottle sitting around in front of family is gross and selfish. I realize there is a long road ahead, I will follow the good advice. Merry Christmas Everyone!
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Pab 1964 I have been ashamed of it also. My 2 year old would act like she was spitting like me all the time and always trying to hand me my can and then halving a spit bottle sitting around in front of family is gross and selfish. I realize there is a long road ahead, I will follow the good advice. Merry Christmas Everyone!
What a great gift you have given to yourself and your family!
Keep writing all of the be you are experiencing in this intro. You'll look back at this and be furious at what nicotine did to you. Trust me... You will love the new you.
Winning daily after THOUSANDS of days of losing should feel great.
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Pab 1964 I have been ashamed of it also. My 2 year old would act like she was spitting like me all the time and always trying to hand me my can and then halving a spit bottle sitting around in front of family is gross and selfish. I realize there is a long road ahead, I will follow the good advice. Merry Christmas Everyone!
I remember laughing like it was the coolest thing I've seen when my daughter at the age of 4 and 5 spitting in a bottle. I thought it was hilarious. Now, I hate the son of a bitch (my old self) for laughing like I did. Many times during the beginning stages of my quit, a couple months into it, that thought crossed my mind and I would get pissed. What an idiot I was.
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I was out to the bar with my friends last night for the first time since the quit. Many triggers and temptations but I made it, my biggest victory so far with people even holding an open can in my face as tempting as it was it feels way better to deny it. I've been trying to break the oral fix issue also so I even passed up some fake smoky mountain. I know drinking isn't recommended this early in the quit but I think for me life has to go on without the nasty and I need to clear hurdles fast and not look back. My father in law quit after 35 years with the simple its easy to start and easy to quit mind game. Its not that easy for the rest of us but we use this site to deal with it. I hope everyone else is having good luck everyday seems to get better, what a week!
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I was out to the bar with my friends last night for the first time since the quit. Many triggers and temptations but I made it, my biggest victory so far with people even holding an open can in my face as tempting as it was it feels way better to deny it. I've been trying to break the oral fix issue also so I even passed up some fake smoky mountain. I know drinking isn't recommended this early in the quit but I think for me life has to go on without the nasty and I need to clear hurdles fast and not look back. My father in law quit after 35 years with the simple its easy to start and easy to quit mind game. Its not that easy for the rest of us but we use this site to deal with it. I hope everyone else is having good luck everyday seems to get better, what a week!
You got this, and enjoy those victories. When you overcome the craves and multiple triggers it is a huge milestone. Stay focused and Quit on!
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I was out to the bar with my friends last night for the first time since the quit. Many triggers and temptations but I made it, my biggest victory so far with people even holding an open can in my face as tempting as it was it feels way better to deny it. I've been trying to break the oral fix issue also so I even passed up some fake smoky mountain. I know drinking isn't recommended this early in the quit but I think for me life has to go on without the nasty and I need to clear hurdles fast and not look back. My father in law quit after 35 years with the simple its easy to start and easy to quit mind game. Its not that easy for the rest of us but we use this site to deal with it. I hope everyone else is having good luck everyday seems to get better, what a week!
Without this place I never made it. End of story. I'm glad people can do it on their own. Me, I couldn't.
Congrats on defeating the temptations that is a great step. One day at a time brother!
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Just an update its day 13 now. As we start the new year its a great feeling to be quit, I hope you all have the same feeling. Other than random strong cravings and dreaming about it last night its good to be thinking about it less, sometimes it only crosses my mind every couple hours.
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Just an update its day 13 now. As we start the new year its a great feeling to be quit, I hope you all have the same feeling. Other than random strong cravings and dreaming about it last night its good to be thinking about it less, sometimes it only crosses my mind every couple hours.
You're winning JJ! Be damn proud, hold your head high for every second you defeat ole Nicky is a victory! Damn proud of you! Quit on!