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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Paddington on January 24, 2014, 04:33:00 AM
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I must apologize for spelling and grammar errors in advance. I am at day 17 I believe, I would have to double check. I am going through what I would describe that 2 week day 14-16 kick in the pants.
I have flirted with joining this forum. I have looked at this website on and off for the last 3 years. I actually started chewing at age 18. I really don't know why I did it, I cannot actually tell you where I had my first dip or what made me continue. I was living in a part of the country where dip was actually pretty unheard of. Most of the places I bought my chew had expired product and I was always checking the expiration date prior to leaving the store. Fast forward 7 years and I quit.
I started chewing at the beginning of my EMS career. Hell with the 48 hour shifts it made perfect sense. Wake up at 3am and need a kick in the pants before a big call? Throw a dip in! I would later actually stop for a period of 3 months after tapering off the skoal with the help of snus. I was not actually intentionally trying to quit, but I should have stopped right there.
I ended up moving states to go to Paramedic school. First day of Medic school and half the class had a fat lip in. What was I thinking, EMS and Fire guys again. Of course we were up 24/7. Riding on the Ambulance and Engines by night, sitting in class for 10 hours by day. This was 6 days a week. No joke.... I have been told by former military veterans that our Medic school was harder than any training they had done in the military.
After a 14 months medic program I was hooked. A can a day. I knew better, I was a healthcare provider. I knew better because I saw the harmful effects of tobacco on people and more so the harmful effects of addiction. Nicotine being really no different, just a slower poison. I would end up getting a job as a Paramedic and doing a "decent" job of balancing full time work and continuing my education. Chew was a great help.
I ended up having an emergency trip half way across the world (literally) for a family emergency a year into my job. While in Africa there was no chewing tobacco. While everyone was smoking around me it just did not interest me. I hurt... Really bad.... I came back to the states and started chewing immediately. I had been clean of nicotine for 10 days.
Fast forward 2 more years at 1-2 cans a day of Grizzly wintergreen long cut and here I am on my 25th birthday. I had to leave a well paying job to finish school, between stress, sleep problems, and concentration issues I ended up having to leave school as well. I am now freshly 25 year old and in a new year. I flirted with quiting on the 1st but got a can on the 4th. I officially have been Nicotine free since 1/7/2013 or 17 days. It officially sucks.
Glad to be here though and hope this intro has not been too long or completely fucked in terms of making sense.
I am going to continue to read how this all works. I figured while I fight an urge to jump in the truck and freeze my ass off to go clear across the county to get a can tonight, I should sit on here and type/read instead.
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You posted roll. That is a promise not to dip for one day. If your word means nothing this site is not the place for you. That being said, if you want to quit and you're honest this site will work for you. No one has ever caved, as in fell off the wagon, and been happy about it. Remember the shit from the first two times you went through the early stages of withdrawal. Remember why you came here in the first place. Do whatever it takes for you to not dip today. We can talk about tomorrow when tomorrow arrives.
You need help? Ask for it.
You need numbers? Just ask.
You want a dip? Ask for permission from anyone here. I'm sure you'll get a fine response.
This site will return everything you give to it tenfold. This is your one quit. You have never quit before now. Anything else was a vacation, this is the real deal. Unless you aren't ready to commit, and if you aren't please refrain from waiting everyone's time.
Please feel free to PM me, or respond here, if you need any further help or clarification.
-Rick
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Rick I appreciate the response. I wouldn't want it any other way. Obviously I have had two "vacations" in the past. This time, however, it is for real. I know it but I know I have to prove it to the rest of you. I can see how roll call helps and works to do this.
I am up to the challenge, can't wait to tell you I told you so.
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Rick I appreciate the response. I wouldn't want it any other way. Obviously I have had two "vacations" in the past. This time, however, it is for real. I know it but I know I have to prove it to the rest of you. I can see how roll call helps and works to do this.
I am up to the challenge, can't wait to tell you I told you so.
Learn from your past mistakes-Hardly any of us are at our first rodeo here. We've all tried every trick in the book to quit (unsuccessfully). I love seeing people say "I've thought about joining for the last xxx years". It means that (deep down), something tells them that our program works.
Think about your failures in the past, and figure out a way to not relive these failures. A fool learns from his own mistakes. A wiseman learns from others' mistakes. A dumbass keeps making the same mistakes. Ask questions here, and we'll support you.
Quit for today-My quit is real as well (All 940 days of it). However, the past means shit and the future is not guaranteed if I can't make it through today. Hell, if I can't make it through this second. You see, we can't control our past or our future. We got the NOW. 17 days is badass, but you, sir, are quit RIGHT NOW. Fucking say that as loud and as proud as you can because there are a lot of people in this world that don't have the balls you have. Plan for this moment. Own this moment.
Plan to be quit and you'll be quit. Although we can only worry about the now, we can set up our lives to remain quit in the future. When times are good, help a brother out. When times are bad, lean on one. Watch your drinking. Have gum/seeds/herbal snuff on you at all times. Think about your triggers, and think about when you'll be most tempted.
Most importantly, come here and post roll call. This is your cry for help and your battle cry in this war. You can do this.
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I tried to quit once before; guess what happened. I failed. Why? I didnt buy in.
I drink a full fucking gallon of this Kool-Aid everyday now. And now I AM quit.
Make this site and its resources an integral part of each and every day and the days will add up and you WILL succeed.
If you need anything, PM me for digits or for any other help.
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Rick I appreciate the response. I wouldn't want it any other way. Obviously I have had two "vacations" in the past. This time, however, it is for real. I know it but I know I have to prove it to the rest of you. I can see how roll call helps and works to do this.
I am up to the challenge, can't wait to tell you I told you so.
Learn from your past mistakes-Hardly any of us are at our first rodeo here. We've all tried every trick in the book to quit (unsuccessfully). I love seeing people say "I've thought about joining for the last xxx years". It means that (deep down), something tells them that our program works.
Think about your failures in the past, and figure out a way to not relive these failures. A fool learns from his own mistakes. A wiseman learns from others' mistakes. A dumbass keeps making the same mistakes. Ask questions here, and we'll support you.
Quit for today-My quit is real as well (All 940 days of it). However, the past means shit and the future is not guaranteed if I can't make it through today. Hell, if I can't make it through this second. You see, we can't control our past or our future. We got the NOW. 17 days is badass, but you, sir, are quit RIGHT NOW. Fucking say that as loud and as proud as you can because there are a lot of people in this world that don't have the balls you have. Plan for this moment. Own this moment.
Plan to be quit and you'll be quit. Although we can only worry about the now, we can set up our lives to remain quit in the future. When times are good, help a brother out. When times are bad, lean on one. Watch your drinking. Have gum/seeds/herbal snuff on you at all times. Think about your triggers, and think about when you'll be most tempted.
Most importantly, come here and post roll call. This is your cry for help and your battle cry in this war. You can do this.
Welcome bro! You made the right decision to come here and quit.
At KTC, there is only 1 way to say "I told you so"... that is by posting roll! Words fall short when it is quitting time. Focus on quitting ODAAT. Each morning post roll first thing, make the promise to quit for today then hold your word. That is the only way.
Quit on!
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Sounds good guys. I plan on posting roll. Had major insomnia last night. Woke up this morning and have been more energetic on 5 hours of sleep than I have been in months. This has been an interesting journey.
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Starting day 19 in 10 minutes (my time/western).
I wanted to say that the cravings have not gone away. They appear to be the same, but I know in actuality they are getting fewer and far between as well as shorter. I have turned to using Smokey Mountain. I find it funny how while chewing I could not stand Smokey Mountain. Over 10 days into no chew and smokey mountain feels and looks like the real stuff. I have read a blog post in regards to using products like Smokey Mountain and, whether, or not that is actually winning. I figure I am of the mindset that anything that is not nicotine and or tobacco is alright for now, even if it does look like it, taste like it, and feel like it to a degree.
What are your thoughts?
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Starting day 19 in 10 minutes (my time/western).
I wanted to say that the cravings have not gone away. They appear to be the same, but I know in actuality they are getting fewer and far between as well as shorter. I have turned to using Smokey Mountain. I find it funny how while chewing I could not stand Smokey Mountain. Over 10 days into no chew and smokey mountain feels and looks like the real stuff. I have read a blog post in regards to using products like Smokey Mountain and, whether, or not that is actually winning. I figure I am of the mindset that anything that is not nicotine and or tobacco is alright for now, even if it does look like it, taste like it, and feel like it to a degree.
What are your thoughts?
First congrats on Day 19! I think that ulitmately it is personal choice. The rules for KTC are to remain nic free, there is no rule or expecatation about putting anything else in your mouth. You could pack dryer lint in there as long as it is nic free. For me, right now, I think it would hit a little to close to home, so I chew Trident and suck a fireball once in a while. I was having a conversation about this with Ziilah cowboy a few days back and some one (to lazy to go back and look but the conversation is on ZC intro) summed it up nicely...paraphrase..."Quit is quit (nic free), why split hairs on the other stuff". Gaurd your quit and do what you need to to remain nic free. I quit with you today.
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Starting day 19 in 10 minutes (my time/western).
I wanted to say that the cravings have not gone away. They appear to be the same, but I know in actuality they are getting fewer and far between as well as shorter. I have turned to using Smokey Mountain. I find it funny how while chewing I could not stand Smokey Mountain. Over 10 days into no chew and smokey mountain feels and looks like the real stuff. I have read a blog post in regards to using products like Smokey Mountain and, whether, or not that is actually winning. I figure I am of the mindset that anything that is not nicotine and or tobacco is alright for now, even if it does look like it, taste like it, and feel like it to a degree.
What are your thoughts?
First congrats on Day 19! I think that ulitmately it is personal choice. The rules for KTC are to remain nic free, there is no rule or expecatation about putting anything else in your mouth. You could pack dryer lint in there as long as it is nic free. For me, right now, I think it would hit a little to close to home, so I chew Trident and suck a fireball once in a while. I was having a conversation about this with Ziilah cowboy a few days back and some one (to lazy to go back and look but the conversation is on ZC intro) summed it up nicely...paraphrase..."Quit is quit (nic free), why split hairs on the other stuff". Gaurd your quit and do what you need to to remain nic free. I quit with you today.
19 days is great bro! Let's get one thing straight... You are winning today! Anything without nicotine is fair game.
There is a lot of bogus opinions on the internet and in the media. Some places tell you that NRT is winning - it is not. I've seen commercials that tell you that e-cigs are winning - they are not.
The true path to quit and victory is exactly what you are doing. Cold turkey and cutting nicotine out of your life.
The only real similarity with smokey mt and dip is that they come in a tin, they look similar, you put it in you lip and spit. The fact is that stuff is totally safe and won't kill you. You use it until you decide you don't need to. That may be never. But it is better than the alternative.
Keep at it bro. Remember that when you wake up, post roll and you hold your word that day --- that is victory. Quit on!
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Starting day 19 in 10 minutes (my time/western).
I wanted to say that the cravings have not gone away. They appear to be the same, but I know in actuality they are getting fewer and far between as well as shorter. I have turned to using Smokey Mountain. I find it funny how while chewing I could not stand Smokey Mountain. Over 10 days into no chew and smokey mountain feels and looks like the real stuff. I have read a blog post in regards to using products like Smokey Mountain and, whether, or not that is actually winning. I figure I am of the mindset that anything that is not nicotine and or tobacco is alright for now, even if it does look like it, taste like it, and feel like it to a degree.
What are your thoughts?
First congrats on Day 19! I think that ulitmately it is personal choice. The rules for KTC are to remain nic free, there is no rule or expecatation about putting anything else in your mouth. You could pack dryer lint in there as long as it is nic free. For me, right now, I think it would hit a little to close to home, so I chew Trident and suck a fireball once in a while. I was having a conversation about this with Ziilah cowboy a few days back and some one (to lazy to go back and look but the conversation is on ZC intro) summed it up nicely...paraphrase..."Quit is quit (nic free), why split hairs on the other stuff". Gaurd your quit and do what you need to to remain nic free. I quit with you today.
19 days is great bro! Let's get one thing straight... You are winning today! Anything without nicotine is fair game.
There is a lot of bogus opinions on the internet and in the media. Some places tell you that NRT is winning - it is not. I've seen commercials that tell you that e-cigs are winning - they are not.
The true path to quit and victory is exactly what you are doing. Cold turkey and cutting nicotine out of your life.
The only real similarity with smokey mt and dip is that they come in a tin, they look similar, you put it in you lip and spit. The fact is that stuff is totally safe and won't kill you. You use it until you decide you don't need to. That may be never. But it is better than the alternative.
Keep at it bro. Remember that when you wake up, post roll and you hold your word that day --- that is victory. Quit on!
I'm with derk friend. Do what you need to to keep the real stuff out. I used it until the 40's and had no problem tossing it. You can't get addicted to a herb. If the most you are worried about right now is the fake you have a great quit going. Great job! Glad to be quit with you.
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Starting day 19 in 10 minutes (my time/western).
I wanted to say that the cravings have not gone away. They appear to be the same, but I know in actuality they are getting fewer and far between as well as shorter. I have turned to using Smokey Mountain. I find it funny how while chewing I could not stand Smokey Mountain. Over 10 days into no chew and smokey mountain feels and looks like the real stuff. I have read a blog post in regards to using products like Smokey Mountain and, whether, or not that is actually winning. I figure I am of the mindset that anything that is not nicotine and or tobacco is alright for now, even if it does look like it, taste like it, and feel like it to a degree.
What are your thoughts?
First congrats on Day 19! I think that ulitmately it is personal choice. The rules for KTC are to remain nic free, there is no rule or expecatation about putting anything else in your mouth. You could pack dryer lint in there as long as it is nic free. For me, right now, I think it would hit a little to close to home, so I chew Trident and suck a fireball once in a while. I was having a conversation about this with Ziilah cowboy a few days back and some one (to lazy to go back and look but the conversation is on ZC intro) summed it up nicely...paraphrase..."Quit is quit (nic free), why split hairs on the other stuff". Gaurd your quit and do what you need to to remain nic free. I quit with you today.
19 days is great bro! Let's get one thing straight... You are winning today! Anything without nicotine is fair game.
There is a lot of bogus opinions on the internet and in the media. Some places tell you that NRT is winning - it is not. I've seen commercials that tell you that e-cigs are winning - they are not.
The true path to quit and victory is exactly what you are doing. Cold turkey and cutting nicotine out of your life.
The only real similarity with smokey mt and dip is that they come in a tin, they look similar, you put it in you lip and spit. The fact is that stuff is totally safe and won't kill you. You use it until you decide you don't need to. That may be never. But it is better than the alternative.
Keep at it bro. Remember that when you wake up, post roll and you hold your word that day --- that is victory. Quit on!
I'm with derk friend. Do what you need to to keep the real stuff out. I used it until the 40's and had no problem tossing it. You can't get addicted to a herb. If the most you are worried about right now is the fake you have a great quit going. Great job! Glad to be quit with you.
I used the fake stuff (Hooch was my favorite) until I was around 400 days. Everyone is different, but if it helps you like it helped me, then keep on using it guilt free. At some point, you'll most likely just stop using it like most of us did.
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Sam, Derk, Srans, Kubrick. Thanks for the replies. Tomorrow morning I will be on day 20. This is the longest in 7 years I have gone without tobacco in my system. I have actually started to feel better. Today has been super productive and I feel amazing. This is the best I have felt in a long time. I find that going for 2-3 mile walks in the evening has helped with the insomnia. I know it sounds weird, but I suppose it just tires me out. I have put on 15lbs in the last 2 weeks although I have noticed my appetite has slowed down in the last 3 days. I am eating better and not craving crap foods like the first 2 weeks. I still am irregular, which has blown my mind! I know why one would be irregular but with all the fluid, fiber and good gut food such as yoghurt I have been consuming I really thought it would not be as much of an issue.
Well that is an update, I figure day 20 is worth documenting.
Thanks guys.
Also, the Smokey Mountain. I cleaned out the small store in town. I am going to the next biggest town tomorrow and know of a place that has some. I am at 1-2 cans a day of the smokey mountain. I have mixed feelings. I still have spitters laying around, and still feel gross, but that is psychological (I don't have to spit this stuff and the only reason I am using it is for the psychological withdrawals, not the physical).
Next goal will be to cut it out.
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Congrats man! That's an awesome achievement. Take a moment be proud of yourself. Today is day 22 for me, which is also the longest I've gone since starting dippin consistently 3 years ago. I, like you, have been slowly starting to feel a change in how my body and brain is adjusting. All I can say is to be patient! Give things time to happen! This fight is going to take the rest of your life to win, so try not to be in a rush. In regards to the Smokey Mountain I personally have been using about a tin a day which is exactly how much Grizzly I used to poison myself with. I'm not worried about using the smokey because I don't need it like I needed my nicotine. I don't need to stay up late to my fix or to borrow some if I was out. Its something that makes it a little bit easier for me to stay quit early on and to me, is definitely worth it. Quit on bro! You're kicking ass!
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In regards to the use of nicotine free alternatives, I liked using Smokey Mountain Fake Dip. It got me through the first couple weeks of my quit. On day 15 I decided I was stronger then the urge and stopped using the fake stuff. They say it takes 21 days to create a habit and another 21 days to break
k a habit. I notice that the urge is still there and probably will be forever since I am a nic addict but the ability to handle the urge and avoid compulsive habits gets easier. There are few things greater in life then a pinch of Copenhagen, but I know that I am strong enough to keep my quit. ODAAT and keep posting roll. On day 27 my only real complaint is dealing with chapped lips. Never had this issue with dip. Anyways stay quit my fellow quitters and if fake dip helps you achieve that then note power to you. Just be careful not to be consumed by compulsive behaviors.
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True, however if smokey mountain keeps someone from having the urge to use the real stuff then it is certainly worth using. The oral fixation that us ex-dippers are so used to will fade in time and quitting smokey wont be nearly as difficult as nicotine.
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In regards to the use of nicotine free alternatives, I liked using Smokey Mountain Fake Dip. It got me through the first couple weeks of my quit. On day 15 I decided I was stronger then the urge and stopped using the fake stuff. They say it takes 21 days to create a habit and another 21 days to break
k a habit. I notice that the urge is still there and probably will be forever since I am a nic addict but the ability to handle the urge and avoid compulsive habits gets easier. There are few things greater in life then a pinch of Copenhagen, but I know that I am strong enough to keep my quit. ODAAT and keep posting roll. On day 27 my only real complaint is dealing with chapped lips. Never had this issue with dip. Anyways stay quit my fellow quitters and if fake dip helps you achieve that then note power to you. Just be careful not to be consumed by compulsive behaviors.
I've got to make a point. Nothing about our nicotine use is a habit. That was my error for decades, I felt that I could always break my "bad habit" in a couple weeks when I want to. We are freaking addicts to one of the most addicting substances known to man. I'm not diminishing your current number of days or anyone else's, but sending out a warning that the nic bitch is patient and waits for you to let your guard down. An example; I hadnt had cravings in many months and then this past week I had a dip dream followed by a day of intense craving for two full days. WT 667
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Sam, Derk, Srans, Kubrick. Thanks for the replies. Tomorrow morning I will be on day 20. This is the longest in 7 years I have gone without tobacco in my system. I have actually started to feel better. Today has been super productive and I feel amazing. This is the best I have felt in a long time. I find that going for 2-3 mile walks in the evening has helped with the insomnia. I know it sounds weird, but I suppose it just tires me out. I have put on 15lbs in the last 2 weeks although I have noticed my appetite has slowed down in the last 3 days. I am eating better and not craving crap foods like the first 2 weeks. I still am irregular, which has blown my mind! I know why one would be irregular but with all the fluid, fiber and good gut food such as yoghurt I have been consuming I really thought it would not be as much of an issue.
Well that is an update, I figure day 20 is worth documenting.
Thanks guys.
Also, the Smokey Mountain. I cleaned out the small store in town. I am going to the next biggest town tomorrow and know of a place that has some. I am at 1-2 cans a day of the smokey mountain. I have mixed feelings. I still have spitters laying around, and still feel gross, but that is psychological (I don't have to spit this stuff and the only reason I am using it is for the psychological withdrawals, not the physical).
Next goal will be to cut it out.
Sounds like a little more info would be useful here. First, you were regular when you chewed because in addition to being an addictive poison and carcinogen, dip is also a laxative. Many of us went through an adjustment period going without a constant laxative for the first times in our adult lives. Your body will eventually adjust. 'flush'
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I apologize if anyone thought I was saying nicotine is a habit. Its not, it is the hardest addiction there is to overcome. The point I was trying to make is that the practice or ritual of dipping and all actions surrounding dipping are habits.
The use off non nicotine fake dip does not in itself replace the urge to use nicotine but rather full fills the regular habit of dipping. Yes this habit was created from an addiction but they are ultimately 2 seperate issues. I am a nicotine addict. If I had a cigar, nic gum or smoke I would instantly be back at square one. The oral fixation from dipping is like I said before a habit. We are nicotine addicts not dip addicts.
Again if the fake dip helps you cope and keep your quit then by all means use it. Eventually you need to address the habit of dipping if you want to be free of sticking stuff in your lip.
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USCG, I got your point, no need to apologize. In a way it is an addiction as well as a habit.
Well day 20 has been pretty fucking good. Pardon my language! Got some good sleep, did pretty well today and got a lot done. I go shooting probably 1-2 times a week at an indoor range. Nothing better than bringing the .45 out and putting some rounds down range. Since quitting I have not enjoyed shooting as much. I actually forced myself to go the last few weeks. I would usually go through a half can in the 2 hours I would dick around there. So far the smokey mountain has helped and like it has been mentioned I go through 1-2 cans a day. While shooting today I didn't reach for the smokey mountain as it is messy, sticky and I did not want to handle my Gold Cup after having sticky stuff on my hands. I was surprised that I was able to make it through the event without something in my mouth. It really goes to show that the more you go back to your triggers and fight them the easier it gets.
Hope everyone is doing well and sticking to their quit.
Oh and before I forget. T-cell. Some more information-
I have greatly reduced my food intake, I don't feel the need to eat 24/7. That was the case the first 16 days or so. I have started getting more active. The first few days I just sat on my ass and moped around (I know that just made it worse) I am at 200lbs, while last month I was 185 and on the way to my goal of 160. I don't feel as bloated though and am getting more regular (as in once a day). When I was eating healthy (which I am back to doing so) and active, I was a twice a day guy. The first week or so I must have gone 3-5 days without going. The last time I did that I was on a strict diet of MREs in 100+ degree heat on the fire line.
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Wanted to check on the post roll rules. I don't feel confident posting roll on my phone as I am having problems cutting and pasting. I got called into work today for 6 hours which has turned into at least 18 hours as of right now. EMS right! If someone could post roll in April quitters group for me I would appreciate it. No chew today. Got a pack of gum a bag of almonds and 3 cans of smky mountain. My partner today worked with me for 1 year when I was full time and chewed. He is fucking proud and says I am more enjoyable to be around as I am not moody and always fighting the nicotine depletion. That says alot as your crew or partner on the rig is attached to your hip. Dare I say just as intimate as a spouse when you think about it. 1/3 of your life for that full 24 hours no further than 10 feet from each other or others.
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Wanted to check on the post roll rules. I don't feel confident posting roll on my phone as I am having problems cutting and pasting. I got called into work today for 6 hours which has turned into at least 18 hours as of right now. EMS right! If someone could post roll in April quitters group for me I would appreciate it. No chew today. Got a pack of gum a bag of almonds and 3 cans of smky mountain. My partner today worked with me for 1 year when I was full time and chewed. He is fucking proud and says I am more enjoyable to be around as I am not moody and always fighting the nicotine depletion. That says alot as your crew or partner on the rig is attached to your hip. Dare I say just as intimate as a spouse when you think about it. 1/3 of your life for that full 24 hours no further than 10 feet from each other or others.
Hi Paddington. Keep it up! I've been watching your quit and am glad to help. I just posted to April roll for today for you. Also keep bulding out your support network. You can always text someone and ask them to post for you. I've done that a few times. PM me sometime if you'd like my number.
Keep up the good quit- you are doing it!
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Wanted to check on the post roll rules. I don't feel confident posting roll on my phone as I am having problems cutting and pasting. I got called into work today for 6 hours which has turned into at least 18 hours as of right now. EMS right! If someone could post roll in April quitters group for me I would appreciate it. No chew today. Got a pack of gum a bag of almonds and 3 cans of smky mountain. My partner today worked with me for 1 year when I was full time and chewed. He is fucking proud and says I am more enjoyable to be around as I am not moody and always fighting the nicotine depletion. That says alot as your crew or partner on the rig is attached to your hip. Dare I say just as intimate as a spouse when you think about it. 1/3 of your life for that full 24 hours no further than 10 feet from each other or others.
Hi Paddington. Keep it up! I've been watching your quit and am glad to help. I just posted to April roll for today for you. Also keep bulding out your support network. You can always text someone and ask them to post for you. I've done that a few times. PM me sometime if you'd like my number.
Keep up the good quit- you are doing it!
Way to work it guys!
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Day 24. Been pretty stress free last few days. Went to work and came home. Been hiking, playing video games, being a homebody. Going through a can or two of smokey mountain and chewing a bag of seeds a day. Today went into town to visit the PO BOX. Nothing good ever comes in the mail. Always a bill, someone wanting something, or some bullshit I have to deal with.
Ended up being all three this morning.
I am not going to chew, I already signed today's roll call. That is a promise I will not break. I ended up going to a gas station and purchased seeds and fake chew. Cleaned them completely out. I saw the chew on the wall but I did not actually have an urge to buy it. It is strange. I don't think I ever liked chew, I just liked the action of doing it and the reaction I got from the nicotine. Since I have figured out ways to trick myself, I am fine using the seeds and smokey mountain, although it still does not satisfy me like chew did.
I hope that rant was coherent. Regardless of its clarity it made me feel better just typing it up.
So here is my question. You know that feeling of doom that we fixed with tobacco? I have obviously replaced it with seeds and fake snuff. While better I don't think it is appropriate. I should be able to handle situations like opening the mail without the world coming to an end. How long did it take all of you to fight these little stresses. That is if you even had them to begin with.
End rant.
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Day 24. Been pretty stress free last few days. Went to work and came home. Been hiking, playing video games, being a homebody. Going through a can or two of smokey mountain and chewing a bag of seeds a day. Today went into town to visit the PO BOX. Nothing good ever comes in the mail. Always a bill, someone wanting something, or some bullshit I have to deal with.
Ended up being all three this morning.
I am not going to chew, I already signed today's roll call. That is a promise I will not break. I ended up going to a gas station and purchased seeds and fake chew. Cleaned them completely out. I saw the chew on the wall but I did not actually have an urge to buy it. It is strange. I don't think I ever liked chew, I just liked the action of doing it and the reaction I got from the nicotine. Since I have figured out ways to trick myself, I am fine using the seeds and smokey mountain, although it still does not satisfy me like chew did.
I hope that rant was coherent. Regardless of its clarity it made me feel better just typing it up.
So here is my question. You know that feeling of doom that we fixed with tobacco? I have obviously replaced it with seeds and fake snuff. While better I don't think it is appropriate. I should be able to handle situations like opening the mail without the world coming to an end. How long did it take all of you to fight these little stresses. That is if you even had them to begin with.
End rant.
24 days is great. Don't worry about how many seeds or how much smoky mountain you are using right now. All you need to worry about is staying quit TODAY. That is all you need to worry about.
Both those products are totally safe. Use them at will! The can of death will kill you!
In time you will begin to feel better. At some point the need to use seeds and smokey will likely go away. Try other things like candy, gum to change it up.
You have to believe us that it will get better. But you also have to believe that you need to focus ODAAT. You got to focus today and staying quit. I know it is hard but this fight is worth it.
I'm quit with you all day long.
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Yea so today has gotten pretty bad. I am actually jonesing worse than I did during the first 72 hours. I feel pretty shitty and upset. I didn't think 24 days into it I would feel this way.
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Yea so today has gotten pretty bad. I am actually jonesing worse than I did during the first 72 hours. I feel pretty shitty and upset. I didn't think 24 days into it I would feel this way.
Paddington, you have to have faith that you are on the right path and that things will get better. This is all mental for you now. Your brain needs time to heal itself. Our bodies are miraculous machines. Give it a chance. Great things are over the horizon if you tuff it out and believe. You've got to come to the realization that dip did NOTHING for you.
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Yea so today has gotten pretty bad. I am actually jonesing worse than I did during the first 72 hours. I feel pretty shitty and upset. I didn't think 24 days into it I would feel this way.
Paddington, you have to have faith that you are on the right path and that things will get better. This is all mental for you now. Your brain needs time to heal itself. Our bodies are miraculous machines. Give it a chance. Great things are over the horizon if you tuff it out and believe. You've got to come to the realization that dip did NOTHING for you.
Paddington,
Life is a struggle sometimes, dipper or non-dipper. You know this. You've been offered an opportunity to excel, accept it. You've been through tougher challenges and triumphed. You got this, amigo. YOU GOT THIS! IT"S YOURS, OWN IT!!
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I didn't think 24 days into it I would feel this way.
You will do this one day at at a time. You screwed your brain for years,, I say again YEARS!! I'll let you add the days up on your own. You'll probably need a calculator. I say that to say this,,, 24 days is just the beginning. I didn't begin feeling better until about 40 days in. That don't mean I was healed in 40 days. Maybe you will be different though,, you never no. In time you will start to feel better and begin feeling somewhat normal. What is normal exactly!?!? Your guess is as good as mine.
There is a door you need to get to. This door is hard to get to and open. Sharpen your tools, settle in and make your way to the door. I can't tell you how far the door is or how long it will be before you get to this door. You WILL get there one day at a time. I make you one promise and you can take it to the bank. You stay the course, and live by this rule (nafar) you will love where this quit takes you. Life is so much better without the poison.
At this point your going to have some bad days mixed with some good days. Enjoy the good, prepare for the bad. I went through some crap i've never experienced until quitting. It's been an experience and I wouldn't take back one day of it. My worse day quit is better than my best day using. Quit with you today.
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Rdad and slug.go. I appreciate the responses. I know this, and while I may come across as rude or short please accept my apology as you of all people must know how much of an asshole I am right now.
I guess what I want to hear if your going to respond is how you've gotten through these cravings and mood swings and your experiences with them. Or if you can point me in the direction of some other threads that discuss these issues.
It fucking sucks.
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I didn't think 24 days into it I would feel this way.
You will do this one day at at a time. You screwed your brain for years,, I say again YEARS!! I'll let you add the days up on your own. You'll probably need a calculator. I say that to say this,,, 24 days is just the beginning. I didn't begin feeling better until about 40 days in. That don't mean I was healed in 40 days. Maybe you will be different though,, you never no. In time you will start to feel better and begin feeling somewhat normal. What is normal exactly!?!? Your guess is as good as mine.
There is a door you need to get to. This door is hard to get to and open. Sharpen your tools, settle in and make your way to the door. I can't tell you how far the door is or how long it will be before you get to this door. You WILL get there one day at a time. I make you one promise and you can take it to the bank. You stay the course, and live by this rule (nafar) you will love where this quit takes you. Life is so much better without the poison.
At this point your going to have some bad days mixed with some good days. Enjoy the good, prepare for the bad. I went through some crap i've never experienced until quitting. It's been an experience and I wouldn't take back one day of it. My worse day quit is better than my best day using. Quit with you today.
Srans thanks for the response.
I get where you are coming from. There is no going back. I don't have any desire to go buy tobacco. Like I said, I saw the wall littered with it today. I have seen that wall nearly daily as I purchased smokey mountain, gum, seeds, candy over the last few weeks. Doing chew is not an option. At the same time though I feel like shit. I don't know where I am going with this, but I know where the door is, I am walking towards it, I am just being a baby and complaining I suppose.
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Rdad and slug.go. I appreciate the responses. I know this, and while I may come across as rude or short please accept my apology as you of all people must know how much of an asshole I am right now.
I guess what I want to hear if your going to respond is how you've gotten through these cravings and mood swings and your experiences with them. Or if you can point me in the direction of some other threads that discuss these issues.
It fucking sucks.
You're neither rude nor short, you're honest. I'm a couple weeks behind you, so I can't offer anything other than encouragement. Just stay the course, my friend. To me, you're a giant because you're at 24!
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Rdad and slug.go. I appreciate the responses. I know this, and while I may come across as rude or short please accept my apology as you of all people must know how much of an asshole I am right now.
I guess what I want to hear if your going to respond is how you've gotten through these cravings and mood swings and your experiences with them. Or if you can point me in the direction of some other threads that discuss these issues.
It fucking sucks.
You're neither rude nor short, you're honest. I'm a couple weeks behind you, so I can't offer anything other than encouragement. Just stay the course, my friend. To me, you're a giant because you're at 24!
Paddington, all I can do is tell you what I did a week ago when I was at 24 and you are already doing it. I posted roll every morning and promised not to use nicotine today. I kept this forum open all day at work and browsed the introductions and posted my thoughts. When I got a craving, I looked at my clock and ensured that they really do last less than 3 minutes even though it seems like an eternity.
In other words, keep doing what you're doing and it will get better and then it will get worse and then it will get better again etc etc.
Why did you quit in the first place? Remind yourself of that! You have made it 24 days, tomorrow is a new day and I'll be quitting with you! cowboy
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I didn't think 24 days into it I would feel this way.
You will do this one day at at a time. You screwed your brain for years,, I say again YEARS!! I'll let you add the days up on your own. You'll probably need a calculator. I say that to say this,,, 24 days is just the beginning. I didn't begin feeling better until about 40 days in. That don't mean I was healed in 40 days. Maybe you will be different though,, you never no. In time you will start to feel better and begin feeling somewhat normal. What is normal exactly!?!? Your guess is as good as mine.
There is a door you need to get to. This door is hard to get to and open. Sharpen your tools, settle in and make your way to the door. I can't tell you how far the door is or how long it will be before you get to this door. You WILL get there one day at a time. I make you one promise and you can take it to the bank. You stay the course, and live by this rule (nafar) you will love where this quit takes you. Life is so much better without the poison.
At this point your going to have some bad days mixed with some good days. Enjoy the good, prepare for the bad. I went through some crap i've never experienced until quitting. It's been an experience and I wouldn't take back one day of it. My worse day quit is better than my best day using. Quit with you today.
Srans thanks for the response.
I get where you are coming from. There is no going back. I don't have any desire to go buy tobacco. Like I said, I saw the wall littered with it today. I have seen that wall nearly daily as I purchased smokey mountain, gum, seeds, candy over the last few weeks. Doing chew is not an option. At the same time though I feel like shit. I don't know where I am going with this, but I know where the door is, I am walking towards it, I am just being a baby and complaining I suppose.
Your 24 days quit on one of the most addictive drugs known to man. Nothing baby about that bro. Your one bad dude. I remember sitting there one night early on and telling my wife I didn't know how in the world I was going to get through it.
After using her, determination, drive, this site and shedding a few tears I made it. That was the turning point in my quit. Quitting comes from deep my friend. Your heart is all in, just going to take a little while for the brain to buy in. You got this bro.
This is what we're here for. To help each other get through it. This is what it's all about. Proud to be quit with you on this friday.
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Rdad and slug.go. I appreciate the responses. I know this, and while I may come across as rude or short please accept my apology as you of all people must know how much of an asshole I am right now.
I guess what I want to hear if your going to respond is how you've gotten through these cravings and mood swings and your experiences with them. Or if you can point me in the direction of some other threads that discuss these issues.
It fucking sucks.
You're neither rude nor short, you're honest. I'm a couple weeks behind you, so I can't offer anything other than encouragement. Just stay the course, my friend. To me, you're a giant because you're at 24!
Paddy,
Here's what I found helpful. During every interaction, especially with ones you love, tell yourself as that interaction starts "Slow the fuck down." When I dipped I was always speeding up my interactions because these people were intruding on my dip space...and all I wanted to do was get alone for a minute to put a fresh one in. Now that I'm quit, I've had to re-teach myself that since there is no fresh dip at the end of that interaction, it's not necessary to rush. And since I'm not rushing, I have no jitter and can be calmer. The part that really woke me up was that as a dipper I found myself resenting people because they were in my dip way. Now that there is no dip, there is no reason to resent people. Sit quiet and listen, learn to endure, then enjoy, the interactions. The futility of snapping at people will recede. Slow your world down. That's all I can tell you because that's what worked for me.
ZC
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Rdad and slug.go. I appreciate the responses. I know this, and while I may come across as rude or short please accept my apology as you of all people must know how much of an asshole I am right now.
I guess what I want to hear if your going to respond is how you've gotten through these cravings and mood swings and your experiences with them. Or if you can point me in the direction of some other threads that discuss these issues.
It fucking sucks.
You're neither rude nor short, you're honest. I'm a couple weeks behind you, so I can't offer anything other than encouragement. Just stay the course, my friend. To me, you're a giant because you're at 24!
Paddington, all I can do is tell you what I did a week ago when I was at 24 and you are already doing it. I posted roll every morning and promised not to use nicotine today. I kept this forum open all day at work and browsed the introductions and posted my thoughts. When I got a craving, I looked at my clock and ensured that they really do last less than 3 minutes even though it seems like an eternity.
In other words, keep doing what you're doing and it will get better and then it will get worse and then it will get better again etc etc.
Why did you quit in the first place? Remind yourself of that! You have made it 24 days, tomorrow is a new day and I'll be quitting with you! cowboy
Paddington
I will tell you what is working for me. I truly believe that knowledge is power. So when I decided to quit I read everything I could find on nicotine addiction. I have read these 2 books 3 times each in the past 70 days. Freedom from Nicotine, the Journey Home by John R. Polito, and the Easy Way to Quit Smoking, by Allen Carr. They both removed the fear I had of quitting and helped me learn the truth about this poison. Knowledge and the brotherhood of this site have literally and unequivocally saved my life. No bullshit. With me it came down to knowing I wanted to really quit and admitting to myself I didn't know how. I quit 12 days at first by myself on knowledge only and knew I wasn't going to make it alone. We humans are brains and hearts. This place strengthens my heart. I don't know how else to say it.
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Rdad and slug.go. I appreciate the responses. I know this, and while I may come across as rude or short please accept my apology as you of all people must know how much of an asshole I am right now.
I guess what I want to hear if your going to respond is how you've gotten through these cravings and mood swings and your experiences with them. Or if you can point me in the direction of some other threads that discuss these issues.
It fucking sucks.
You're neither rude nor short, you're honest. I'm a couple weeks behind you, so I can't offer anything other than encouragement. Just stay the course, my friend. To me, you're a giant because you're at 24!
Paddy,
Here's what I found helpful. During every interaction, especially with ones you love, tell yourself as that interaction starts "Slow the fuck down." When I dipped I was always speeding up my interactions because these people were intruding on my dip space...and all I wanted to do was get alone for a minute to put a fresh one in. Now that I'm quit, I've had to re-teach myself that since there is no fresh dip at the end of that interaction, it's not necessary to rush. And since I'm not rushing, I have no jitter and can be calmer. The part that really woke me up was that as a dipper I found myself resenting people because they were in my dip way. Now that there is no dip, there is no reason to resent people. Sit quiet and listen, learn to endure, then enjoy, the interactions. The futility of snapping at people will recede. Slow your world down. That's all I can tell you because that's what worked for me.
ZC
Zc is definitely on the quit highway. One thing I always think about is how much more I enjoy little things better now. Take a night out with the wife and kids for instance. Eating dinner is so much more pleasurable. I get to sit there and actually enjoy the dinner. The wife and kids actually have some pretty interesting stuff to talk about. I wonder if I actually ever really payed them any real attention while using sometimes. While quit I've actually been out with the family and began thinking of all the time wasted because of the poison. Shed a tear or two and the family wonder what in the world is going on with me. Had to go to the rest room and fix myself.
There isn't enough time in my lifetime to make up for my stupidity. I'm going to damn sure give it a try though. It's a whole new world fellows. Start enjoying life without the poison.
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Paddy,
Here's what I found helpful. During every interaction, especially with ones you love, tell yourself as that interaction starts "Slow the fuck down." When I dipped I was always speeding up my interactions because these people were intruding on my dip space...and all I wanted to do was get alone for a minute to put a fresh one in. Now that I'm quit, I've had to re-teach myself that since there is no fresh dip at the end of that interaction, it's not necessary to rush. And since I'm not rushing, I have no jitter and can be calmer. The part that really woke me up was that as a dipper I found myself resenting people because they were in my dip way. Now that there is no dip, there is no reason to resent people. Sit quiet and listen, learn to endure, then enjoy, the interactions. The futility of snapping at people will recede. Slow your world down. That's all I can tell you because that's what worked for me.
ZC
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Brilliant and so true! I never have had patience for people who act slow or talk slow. I am always in "what is next mode", not "what is now". Great Oberservations Zillah cowboy!
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That was at least 3 hours long. Pacing back and forth, feeling like I was going to shred someone alive. (I am single and live on my own in the middle of nowhere, so socially this quit has been relatively easy as I have pretty much escaped potentially bad contacts.)
Went through a pack of Spitz seeds and have the beat up and sore tongue to prove it!
I totally got blind sided by that crave. It was worse than anything I have had during previous quit attempts, during the first 72 hours (and I have had 2 first 72 hours this month, as prior to my quit date on the 8th I had quit on the 3rd and caved at 72 hours.)
I ended up spending an hour or so watching this. Highly recommend it.
http://youtu.be/wvwrEo3sKAw (http://youtu.be/wvwrEo3sKAw)
I know how nicotine works, I know the effect of Dopamine, the Alpha/Beta effects on the cardiovascular system, the neurological effects, ect. Knowing how it works helps and I think you have to in order to quit. Having said that, the human aspect and the psychological aspect of the quit is not something I think you understand unless you are going through it or have gone through it. That is where you have all helped. Thanks for the replies this evening. Just being able to vent and chat with folks who understand the struggles really does help.
About to start day 25. 1/4 of the way to 100. No nicotine or tobacco.
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That was at least 3 hours long. Pacing back and forth, feeling like I was going to shred someone alive. (I am single and live on my own in the middle of nowhere, so socially this quit has been relatively easy as I have pretty much escaped potentially bad contacts.)
Went through a pack of Spitz seeds and have the beat up and sore tongue to prove it!
I totally got blind sided by that crave. It was worse than anything I have had during previous quit attempts, during the first 72 hours (and I have had 2 first 72 hours this month, as prior to my quit date on the 8th I had quit on the 3rd and caved at 72 hours.)
I ended up spending an hour or so watching this. Highly recommend it.
http://youtu.be/wvwrEo3sKAw (http://youtu.be/wvwrEo3sKAw)
I know how nicotine works, I know the effect of Dopamine, the Alpha/Beta effects on the cardiovascular system, the neurological effects, ect. Knowing how it works helps and I think you have to in order to quit. Having said that, the human aspect and the psychological aspect of the quit is not something I think you understand unless you are going through it or have gone through it. That is where you have all helped. Thanks for the replies this evening. Just being able to vent and chat with folks who understand the struggles really does help.
About to start day 25. 1/4 of the way to 100. No nicotine or tobacco.
Keep fighting. Get through today. Fight second by second if need be. +1 tomorrow and repeat. You are correct that understanding intellectually is not the same as experiencing it, but you have made it this far and can absolutely make it one more day. It gets better, just get through today.
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Wanted to update everyone. I also want to thank Zillah for posting roll on my behalf today (monday). I was unsure when I would be getting home from work and don't feel confident using my phone to post roll with the cut/paste.
That "crave" was worse than the first 72 hours. I think a huge part of the crave was anxiety over some personal issues. It is hard to actually deal with normal day to day things without the nicotine I have relied on for the last 6+ years.
I am about to start day 28. I can't wait to hit day 30. I pulled a shift with a supervisor and close friend. We were pretty busy and after a rather grizzly and nasty call we sat down to decompress. As I pulled out the seeds, he pulled his can out. I had no desire what so ever to use tobacco and was able to sit with him as he chewed. I felt pretty indifferent to the situation and was pretty impressed. What surprised me was how upset he was. He was pretty jealous of my 28 days and might come check this site out. If I can do it (one can a day if not more) he can do it. He agreed I would be the last person we work with that he thought would quit. (He chews far less, and so does everyone else at work).
I am actually slowing down the food intake, still using seeds and Smokey Mountain heavily. Don't (other than a few nights ago) get as many craves during the day. The challenge will be later on this week when I drive half way across the US to help the parents move. I bought a box of Smokey Mountain, have enough seeds to feed every bird I meet, and between the two I figure my jaw will fall off from mechanical wear and tear prior to any real tobacco getting in there.
No chewing for me yesterday. No chew tomorrow.
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Wanted to update everyone. I also want to thank Zillah for posting roll on my behalf today (monday). I was unsure when I would be getting home from work and don't feel confident using my phone to post roll with the cut/paste.
That "crave" was worse than the first 72 hours. I think a huge part of the crave was anxiety over some personal issues. It is hard to actually deal with normal day to day things without the nicotine I have relied on for the last 6+ years.
I am about to start day 28. I can't wait to hit day 30. I pulled a shift with a supervisor and close friend. We were pretty busy and after a rather grizzly and nasty call we sat down to decompress. As I pulled out the seeds, he pulled his can out. I had no desire what so ever to use tobacco and was able to sit with him as he chewed. I felt pretty indifferent to the situation and was pretty impressed. What surprised me was how upset he was. He was pretty jealous of my 28 days and might come check this site out. If I can do it (one can a day if not more) he can do it. He agreed I would be the last person we work with that he thought would quit. (He chews far less, and so does everyone else at work).
I am actually slowing down the food intake, still using seeds and Smokey Mountain heavily. Don't (other than a few nights ago) get as many craves during the day. The challenge will be later on this week when I drive half way across the US to help the parents move. I bought a box of Smokey Mountain, have enough seeds to feed every bird I meet, and between the two I figure my jaw will fall off from mechanical wear and tear prior to any real tobacco getting in there.
No chewing for me yesterday. No chew tomorrow.
ODAAT, you (we all) got this! Quit with you....on on-hand it's easier on the other it's still there.....somehow acknowledging both works for me. Way to reach out for support and great attitude.
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Wanted to update everyone. I also want to thank Zillah for posting roll on my behalf today (monday). I was unsure when I would be getting home from work and don't feel confident using my phone to post roll with the cut/paste.
That "crave" was worse than the first 72 hours. I think a huge part of the crave was anxiety over some personal issues. It is hard to actually deal with normal day to day things without the nicotine I have relied on for the last 6+ years.
I am about to start day 28. I can't wait to hit day 30. I pulled a shift with a supervisor and close friend. We were pretty busy and after a rather grizzly and nasty call we sat down to decompress. As I pulled out the seeds, he pulled his can out. I had no desire what so ever to use tobacco and was able to sit with him as he chewed. I felt pretty indifferent to the situation and was pretty impressed. What surprised me was how upset he was. He was pretty jealous of my 28 days and might come check this site out. If I can do it (one can a day if not more) he can do it. He agreed I would be the last person we work with that he thought would quit. (He chews far less, and so does everyone else at work).
I am actually slowing down the food intake, still using seeds and Smokey Mountain heavily. Don't (other than a few nights ago) get as many craves during the day. The challenge will be later on this week when I drive half way across the US to help the parents move. I bought a box of Smokey Mountain, have enough seeds to feed every bird I meet, and between the two I figure my jaw will fall off from mechanical wear and tear prior to any real tobacco getting in there.
No chewing for me yesterday. No chew tomorrow.
Nice rally Paddington! That's a huge litmus test -- one of many from here on out, I'd imagine -- and the fact that you were indifferent about the dipping in your presence is impressive. Very inspiring, and shows how strong your resolve is coming off a bruising crave. You got this!
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I bought a box of Smokey Mountain, have enough seeds to feed every bird I meet, and between the two I figure my jaw will fall off from mechanical wear and tear prior to any real tobacco getting in there.
This is my favorite quote of the board since I joined. I'm with ya!
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I bought a box of Smokey Mountain, have enough seeds to feed every bird I meet, and between the two I figure my jaw will fall off from mechanical wear and tear prior to any real tobacco getting in there.
This is my favorite quote of the board since I joined. I'm with ya!
Ha, Ha, TMJ will not kill you!
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New issue on day 36. I have noticed over the last few days I don't even think about chew. Infact I went 2 days without even using smokey mountain. There is one person in my life (they never used tobacco, its not an association with tobacco) that makes me want to chew. Whenever I talk to this person (so far it has only been on the phone) I get stressed beyond belief. This may seem weird, but driving is no issue now, working is no issue now, there is really no place I feel I have to chew. This person? Another story. I long for a can thinking about this person, talking to this person and for a few hours after.
So how many of you guys have a specific stressor? It is the weirdest thing. I didn't think I was stressed when talking to this individual, but this is a painful way of showing it.
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New issue on day 36. I have noticed over the last few days I don't even think about chew. Infact I went 2 days without even using smokey mountain. There is one person in my life (they never used tobacco, its not an association with tobacco) that makes me want to chew. Whenever I talk to this person (so far it has only been on the phone) I get stressed beyond belief. This may seem weird, but driving is no issue now, working is no issue now, there is really no place I feel I have to chew. This person? Another story. I long for a can thinking about this person, talking to this person and for a few hours after.
So how many of you guys have a specific stressor? It is the weirdest thing. I didn't think I was stressed when talking to this individual, but this is a painful way of showing it.
Probably as many triggers as there are hours in the day, which probably explains why I packed a fatty for the majority of the day, outside of meals. You're farther along in your quit than me (nice work, by the way), but I felt like I spent the majority of the first few days thinking one to two hours into the future to prepare my brain / body for the fact that it wasn't going to get any poison. Gotta drop a deuce? No nic for you. Long conference call for work? No nic for you. Watching Sportscenter late-night? No nic for you. After I forced myself to accept that there would be no tin of poison waiting for me anywhere, I think I became the single best customer of David's Sunflower Seeds and Trident gum in a 3-day period. Stay strong, quit on bro.
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Tomorrow will be day 43. Have had a fantastic week so far. Big difference from the last week or 2 when I last posted in here and felt like shit.
I have a fun as in exciting to get up and move/pain in the ass event going on this week. I am leaving in a few hours and driving over 800 miles to meet one of my parents in their former state of residence. I will be sleeping for a half day, then running around visiting some childhood friends, proceeded by loading a trailer up and leaving to another state some 500 miles away before driving a complete triangle back home the next day. In total I am probably looking at over 1700 miles in 3 days. Wish I had more time but work and other obligations back home mean it has to be a quick trip.
I have made it over the commute hurdle. I commute to work 70+ miles a few times a month (work 24 hours). I now no longer crave. A road trip of this magnitude is going to test me. I have loaded up on a box of Smokey Mountain and Oregon Mint Snuff. (Surprisingly up until today while preparing for my trip, I went without the stuff for 4 days, but I had an urge getting ready for the trip today). I have ginger candies, my favorite wild caught smoked salmon from a local deli. Organic make a hippy proud dark chocolate, some almond crackers, coconut yoghurt and some nice cheese to spread on the crackers with my smoked salmon and salad. I think I am ready.
So if you see a dirty old F150 with a driver in jeans beat up cowboy boots with a skoal ring that would make every teenage wannabe tough guy jealous, at a truck stop, sitting and eating a meal that would make a vegan hippy (minus the salmon and cheese) smile all while packing the fattest lip of mint snuff.... Remember... run on sentence or not.... say hello.
I have some numbers and I may post in this thread on my phone. Posting roll may be tough. I will stay in contact but might need some help.
Making a life style change, no chew for me... not going to let one spoke in the wheel fuck me up.
I can't let myself down nor can I let you guys down. No chew on this trip.
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Tomorrow will be day 43. Have had a fantastic week so far. Big difference from the last week or 2 when I last posted in here and felt like shit.
I have a fun as in exciting to get up and move/pain in the ass event going on this week. I am leaving in a few hours and driving over 800 miles to meet one of my parents in their former state of residence. I will be sleeping for a half day, then running around visiting some childhood friends, proceeded by loading a trailer up and leaving to another state some 500 miles away before driving a complete triangle back home the next day. In total I am probably looking at over 1700 miles in 3 days. Wish I had more time but work and other obligations back home mean it has to be a quick trip.
I have made it over the commute hurdle. I commute to work 70+ miles a few times a month (work 24 hours). I now no longer crave. A road trip of this magnitude is going to test me. I have loaded up on a box of Smokey Mountain and Oregon Mint Snuff. (Surprisingly up until today while preparing for my trip, I went without the stuff for 4 days, but I had an urge getting ready for the trip today). I have ginger candies, my favorite wild caught smoked salmon from a local deli. Organic make a hippy proud dark chocolate, some almond crackers, coconut yoghurt and some nice cheese to spread on the crackers with my smoked salmon and salad. I think I am ready.
So if you see a dirty old F150 with a driver in jeans beat up cowboy boots with a skoal ring that would make every teenage wannabe tough guy jealous, at a truck stop, sitting and eating a meal that would make a vegan hippy (minus the salmon and cheese) smile all while packing the fattest lip of mint snuff.... Remember... run on sentence or not.... say hello.
I have some numbers and I may post in this thread on my phone. Posting roll may be tough. I will stay in contact but might need some help.
Making a life style change, no chew for me... not going to let one spoke in the wheel fuck me up.
I can't let myself down nor can I let you guys down. No chew on this trip.
Dude...you're gonna shit your pants eating that cornucopia of fare. You better add a few rolls of Charmin to your list, in case your shart yourself.
Seriously, you are prepared. You are positive. And you WILL make that drive with no problems.
Safe travels on your pilgrimage.
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Tomorrow will be day 43. Have had a fantastic week so far. Big difference from the last week or 2 when I last posted in here and felt like shit.
I have a fun as in exciting to get up and move/pain in the ass event going on this week. I am leaving in a few hours and driving over 800 miles to meet one of my parents in their former state of residence. I will be sleeping for a half day, then running around visiting some childhood friends, proceeded by loading a trailer up and leaving to another state some 500 miles away before driving a complete triangle back home the next day. In total I am probably looking at over 1700 miles in 3 days. Wish I had more time but work and other obligations back home mean it has to be a quick trip.
I have made it over the commute hurdle. I commute to work 70+ miles a few times a month (work 24 hours). I now no longer crave. A road trip of this magnitude is going to test me. I have loaded up on a box of Smokey Mountain and Oregon Mint Snuff. (Surprisingly up until today while preparing for my trip, I went without the stuff for 4 days, but I had an urge getting ready for the trip today). I have ginger candies, my favorite wild caught smoked salmon from a local deli. Organic make a hippy proud dark chocolate, some almond crackers, coconut yoghurt and some nice cheese to spread on the crackers with my smoked salmon and salad. I think I am ready.
So if you see a dirty old F150 with a driver in jeans beat up cowboy boots with a skoal ring that would make every teenage wannabe tough guy jealous, at a truck stop, sitting and eating a meal that would make a vegan hippy (minus the salmon and cheese) smile all while packing the fattest lip of mint snuff.... Remember... run on sentence or not.... say hello.
I have some numbers and I may post in this thread on my phone. Posting roll may be tough. I will stay in contact but might need some help.
Making a life style change, no chew for me... not going to let one spoke in the wheel fuck me up.
I can't let myself down nor can I let you guys down. No chew on this trip.
Dude...you're gonna shit your pants eating that cornucopia of fare. You better add a few rolls of Charmin to your list, in case your shart yourself.
Seriously, you are prepared. You are positive. And you WILL make that drive with no problems.
Safe travels on your pilgrimage.
That made me laugh. Such an odd combination to visualize. Drive safe. Your attitude already has any possible crave beat.
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Made it alright. I ended up bombing a truck stop bathroom. Its all the Quinoa I have been eating. Its like I didn't know a bowel movement could be that large and that regular. Cool thing is you don't even have to wipe, its a ghost... all dat fiber!
Well I feel great, look good, friends and family were very surprised to see me and noticed the weight loss immediately. Cool thing is I am out of the woods and in a city which is also a mecca to eating right and vegetarian food that tastes great and is good for you. I had a bomb Ginger fried Tofu bowl with rice, little peanut cabbage slaw, and this cool ginger broth/sauce. On top of the roasted Shiitake mushroom rice buns.
Who knew being healthy was this "easy" and so much better then a can of grizzly and a gas station pastry.
Doing it as a whole life style thing has helped and made it that much more rewarding.
Want to thank Krusty for posting roll for me while I was on the road. The 14 hour drive ended up being 19 hours with traffic and a bad snow/ice patch. 4x4 helped me get out of the ditch after doing a 720 on the freeway and Krusty helped me remain quit. So my heroes for the day are 4x4 and Krusty.
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Made it alright. I ended up bombing a truck stop bathroom. Its all the Quinoa I have been eating. Its like I didn't know a bowel movement could be that large and that regular. Cool thing is you don't even have to wipe, its a ghost... all dat fiber!
Well I feel great, look good, friends and family were very surprised to see me and noticed the weight loss immediately. Cool thing is I am out of the woods and in a city which is also a mecca to eating right and vegetarian food that tastes great and is good for you. I had a bomb Ginger fried Tofu bowl with rice, little peanut cabbage slaw, and this cool ginger broth/sauce. On top of the roasted Shiitake mushroom rice buns.
Who knew being healthy was this "easy" and so much better then a can of grizzly and a gas station pastry.
Doing it as a whole life style thing has helped and made it that much more rewarding.
Want to thank Krusty for posting roll for me while I was on the road. The 14 hour drive ended up being 19 hours with traffic and a bad snow/ice patch. 4x4 helped me get out of the ditch after doing a 720 on the freeway and Krusty helped me remain quit. So my heroes for the day are 4x4 and Krusty.
Love how you casually mention that you did a 720 into a ditch in the midst of a 19-hr drive -- it was more of an afterthought in your glowing review of a deuce that you dropped at a rest stop. Classic! Happy to be of assistance, bro. Get your shit taken care of, enjoy the temporary change in environment, and buy yourself a double order of the ginger tofu mushroom bowl as a mini-reward for cruising through the day with another +1 under your belt. Then buy yourself some Charmin and enjoy unleashing the fury.
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Made it alright. I ended up bombing a truck stop bathroom. Its all the Quinoa I have been eating. Its like I didn't know a bowel movement could be that large and that regular. Cool thing is you don't even have to wipe, its a ghost... all dat fiber!
Well I feel great, look good, friends and family were very surprised to see me and noticed the weight loss immediately. Cool thing is I am out of the woods and in a city which is also a mecca to eating right and vegetarian food that tastes great and is good for you. I had a bomb Ginger fried Tofu bowl with rice, little peanut cabbage slaw, and this cool ginger broth/sauce. On top of the roasted Shiitake mushroom rice buns.
Who knew being healthy was this "easy" and so much better then a can of grizzly and a gas station pastry.
Doing it as a whole life style thing has helped and made it that much more rewarding.
Want to thank Krusty for posting roll for me while I was on the road. The 14 hour drive ended up being 19 hours with traffic and a bad snow/ice patch. 4x4 helped me get out of the ditch after doing a 720 on the freeway and Krusty helped me remain quit. So my heroes for the day are 4x4 and Krusty.
Love how you casually mention that you did a 720 into a ditch in the midst of a 19-hr drive -- it was more of an afterthought in your glowing review of a deuce that you dropped at a rest stop. Classic! Happy to be of assistance, bro. Get your shit taken care of, enjoy the temporary change in environment, and buy yourself a double order of the ginger tofu mushroom bowl as a mini-reward for cruising through the day with another +1 under your belt. Then buy yourself some Charmin and enjoy unleashing the fury.
Good on both of you!
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Made it alright. I ended up bombing a truck stop bathroom. Its all the Quinoa I have been eating. Its like I didn't know a bowel movement could be that large and that regular. Cool thing is you don't even have to wipe, its a ghost... all dat fiber!
Well I feel great, look good, friends and family were very surprised to see me and noticed the weight loss immediately. Cool thing is I am out of the woods and in a city which is also a mecca to eating right and vegetarian food that tastes great and is good for you. I had a bomb Ginger fried Tofu bowl with rice, little peanut cabbage slaw, and this cool ginger broth/sauce. On top of the roasted Shiitake mushroom rice buns.
Who knew being healthy was this "easy" and so much better then a can of grizzly and a gas station pastry.
Doing it as a whole life style thing has helped and made it that much more rewarding.
Want to thank Krusty for posting roll for me while I was on the road. The 14 hour drive ended up being 19 hours with traffic and a bad snow/ice patch. 4x4 helped me get out of the ditch after doing a 720 on the freeway and Krusty helped me remain quit. So my heroes for the day are 4x4 and Krusty.
Love how you casually mention that you did a 720 into a ditch in the midst of a 19-hr drive -- it was more of an afterthought in your glowing review of a deuce that you dropped at a rest stop. Classic! Happy to be of assistance, bro. Get your shit taken care of, enjoy the temporary change in environment, and buy yourself a double order of the ginger tofu mushroom bowl as a mini-reward for cruising through the day with another +1 under your belt. Then buy yourself some Charmin and enjoy unleashing the fury.
Good on both of you!
"Every take a dump that makes your pants fit better"....Ron White Glad you had a safe and nic free trip!
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Made it alright. I ended up bombing a truck stop bathroom. Its all the Quinoa I have been eating. Its like I didn't know a bowel movement could be that large and that regular. Cool thing is you don't even have to wipe, its a ghost... all dat fiber!
Well I feel great, look good, friends and family were very surprised to see me and noticed the weight loss immediately. Cool thing is I am out of the woods and in a city which is also a mecca to eating right and vegetarian food that tastes great and is good for you. I had a bomb Ginger fried Tofu bowl with rice, little peanut cabbage slaw, and this cool ginger broth/sauce. On top of the roasted Shiitake mushroom rice buns.
Who knew being healthy was this "easy" and so much better then a can of grizzly and a gas station pastry.
Doing it as a whole life style thing has helped and made it that much more rewarding.
Want to thank Krusty for posting roll for me while I was on the road. The 14 hour drive ended up being 19 hours with traffic and a bad snow/ice patch. 4x4 helped me get out of the ditch after doing a 720 on the freeway and Krusty helped me remain quit. So my heroes for the day are 4x4 and Krusty.
Love how you casually mention that you did a 720 into a ditch in the midst of a 19-hr drive -- it was more of an afterthought in your glowing review of a deuce that you dropped at a rest stop. Classic! Happy to be of assistance, bro. Get your shit taken care of, enjoy the temporary change in environment, and buy yourself a double order of the ginger tofu mushroom bowl as a mini-reward for cruising through the day with another +1 under your belt. Then buy yourself some Charmin and enjoy unleashing the fury.
Good on both of you!
"Every take a dump that makes your pants fit better"....Ron White Glad you had a safe and nic free trip!
'crackup'
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Be back here to explain in a bit. I have not used tobacco since my departure for a few weeks. I owe you all an apology for not being more proactive and while this is not an excuse nor does it excuse my lack of participation this is what has been going on in a nut shell-
Had a suicide, a death and a maternity leave go out all within 3 weeks of each other at work. I have been pulling 200+ hour pay periods. While at work I don't bring my laptop but I do have my phone. I should be using it more but I don't. I gotta run now to go pee in a cup, talk to Mr. Policeman and have a physical done today for a new job. I have also during that time had 3 interviews, and been offered two new jobs. So lots of things going on.
I will get back on tonight.
Thanks guys, I am still quit and will remain quit and I do apologize for my dissapearing act.
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Be back here to explain in a bit. I have not used tobacco since my departure for a few weeks. I owe you all an apology for not being more proactive and while this is not an excuse nor does it excuse my lack of participation this is what has been going on in a nut shell-
Had a suicide, a death and a maternity leave go out all within 3 weeks of each other at work. I have been pulling 200+ hour pay periods. While at work I don't bring my laptop but I do have my phone. I should be using it more but I don't. I gotta run now to go pee in a cup, talk to Mr. Policeman and have a physical done today for a new job. I have also during that time had 3 interviews, and been offered two new jobs. So lots of things going on.
I will get back on tonight.
Thanks guys, I am still quit and will remain quit and I do apologize for my dissapearing act.
'Popcorn'
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Be back here to explain in a bit. I have not used tobacco since my departure for a few weeks. I owe you all an apology for not being more proactive and while this is not an excuse nor does it excuse my lack of participation this is what has been going on in a nut shell-
Had a suicide, a death and a maternity leave go out all within 3 weeks of each other at work. I have been pulling 200+ hour pay periods. While at work I don't bring my laptop but I do have my phone. I should be using it more but I don't. I gotta run now to go pee in a cup, talk to Mr. Policeman and have a physical done today for a new job. I have also during that time had 3 interviews, and been offered two new jobs. So lots of things going on.
I will get back on tonight.
Thanks guys, I am still quit and will remain quit and I do apologize for my dissapearing act.
'Popcorn'
Well I am back from HR. I gotta go do that pee cup test later this afternoon. Reading the union contract, I am getting a big upgrade from my previous job and what is more? Being tobacco free and proving I am results in even more cash in the pocket and even more "free" medical coverage.
Its a good thing I am quit.
Krusty has been a god send and has posted for me multiple times as well as today. I can't thank him enough. I also would like to thank zillahcowboy for checking in on me.
These last few weeks have been tough. I have been here before, this is not anything new. Wild Fires last year? Hurricane Sandy? All the bad weather this past winter? (just to be clear I was not deployed to Sandy, but had to back cover in areas where folks were) In fact if Zillah reads this he will know all about a fire a little bit north of where I assume he lives with that name? I was on the clock for essentially 2 months straight during that fiasco. What is different is how I feel. I feel "great". As some of you know I made this quit a life style change. I am down over 26lbs as of last week (check every 2) and have noticed I feel better, am more productive and look better. I don't know if any of you have ever seen the Nicholas Cage movie "bringing out the dead?" Imagine a 1-2 can a day chewer that was a fatter version of that. That is what I was before I found KTC.
I actually think the positive things that have happened in my life of recent can be attributed to my choice to stop using tobacco. That decision led to this site, which led to me reading other intros, other threads, other peoples discussions, other addictions and problems. I actually found some links to some great health related and eating videos. I watched them over and over, applied what I read and made it a "big change". It was nothing I didn't know and that is what is scary. We all know how to eat right, we all know not to chew. We did it anyways. It is about getting in that mind set and that is what this website is all about.
My lack of participation sucks and it is a let down for all the folks that helped me out. Here I am explaining the why. What do I plan on doing about it? Posting regularly in the future, going for another 100 days and participating and helping newbies that come along.
Thanks guys... sorry for the rambling.
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Be back here to explain in a bit. I have not used tobacco since my departure for a few weeks. I owe you all an apology for not being more proactive and while this is not an excuse nor does it excuse my lack of participation this is what has been going on in a nut shell-
Had a suicide, a death and a maternity leave go out all within 3 weeks of each other at work. I have been pulling 200+ hour pay periods. While at work I don't bring my laptop but I do have my phone. I should be using it more but I don't. I gotta run now to go pee in a cup, talk to Mr. Policeman and have a physical done today for a new job. I have also during that time had 3 interviews, and been offered two new jobs. So lots of things going on.
I will get back on tonight.
Thanks guys, I am still quit and will remain quit and I do apologize for my dissapearing act.
Garbage.
You had a contact 100% willing to post for you, and you half-assed sending a basic text each day.
"Please post day __ for me". Less than 30 seconds, that's 10. The BARE MINIMUM and you didn't do it.
You're lucky Nuke/ZC/monroe didn't place you on the cave list, because getting back from that this late would not have been fun. As for being in now, I mean, you're on the roll, you'll probably hit the hall. But when you don't care enough to hop on even once in that time and explain what's going on, why would anyone show it back when you reach the milestone with us?
Rule #1 - No excuses, post roll.
edit: your second reply did not change any of the above.
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Be back here to explain in a bit. I have not used tobacco since my departure for a few weeks. I owe you all an apology for not being more proactive and while this is not an excuse nor does it excuse my lack of participation this is what has been going on in a nut shell-
Had a suicide, a death and a maternity leave go out all within 3 weeks of each other at work. I have been pulling 200+ hour pay periods. While at work I don't bring my laptop but I do have my phone. I should be using it more but I don't. I gotta run now to go pee in a cup, talk to Mr. Policeman and have a physical done today for a new job. I have also during that time had 3 interviews, and been offered two new jobs. So lots of things going on.
I will get back on tonight.
Thanks guys, I am still quit and will remain quit and I do apologize for my dissapearing act.
Garbage.
You had a contact 100% willing to post for you, and you half-assed sending a basic text each day.
"Please post day __ for me". Less than 30 seconds, that's 10. The BARE MINIMUM and you didn't do it.
You're lucky Nuke/ZC/monroe didn't place you on the cave list, because getting back from that this late would not have been fun. As for being in now, I mean, you're on the roll, you'll probably hit the hall. But when you don't care enough to hop on even once in that time and explain what's going on, why would anyone show it back when you reach the milestone with us?
Rule #1 - No excuses, post roll.
edit: your second reply did not change any of the above.
I don't know Knockout, I'm kind of reminded of the old joke about "What do you call the guy who graduates with the lowest grade from medical school?.......Doctor"
I have my doubts about the commitment too when someone doesn't post roll daily like I do but there are people who posted roll every day for years and then still caved.
If Paddington makes 100 days, he's in the HOF as far as I'm concerned! He'll be famous because he'll have made it 100 days without nicotine. It's something to be proud of no matter how you make it and I'm quit with you and with Paddington!
AA
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Be back here to explain in a bit. I have not used tobacco since my departure for a few weeks. I owe you all an apology for not being more proactive and while this is not an excuse nor does it excuse my lack of participation this is what has been going on in a nut shell-
Had a suicide, a death and a maternity leave go out all within 3 weeks of each other at work. I have been pulling 200+ hour pay periods. While at work I don't bring my laptop but I do have my phone. I should be using it more but I don't. I gotta run now to go pee in a cup, talk to Mr. Policeman and have a physical done today for a new job. I have also during that time had 3 interviews, and been offered two new jobs. So lots of things going on.
I will get back on tonight.
Thanks guys, I am still quit and will remain quit and I do apologize for my dissapearing act.
Garbage.
You had a contact 100% willing to post for you, and you half-assed sending a basic text each day.
"Please post day __ for me". Less than 30 seconds, that's 10. The BARE MINIMUM and you didn't do it.
You're lucky Nuke/ZC/monroe didn't place you on the cave list, because getting back from that this late would not have been fun. As for being in now, I mean, you're on the roll, you'll probably hit the hall. But when you don't care enough to hop on even once in that time and explain what's going on, why would anyone show it back when you reach the milestone with us?
Rule #1 - No excuses, post roll.
edit: your second reply did not change any of the above.
Cool story bro. You know what is totally awesome about today. I am 86 days without tobacco and feel great. So while I understand what you are trying to get at, you won't break me down! I feel bad, I explained myself. Keep typing hard ass remarks, I don't see how it is going to help in any way. If it is merely to get your feelings towards me off your chest, feel free. I will read over what you gotta say and respect your comments. I am quit, and I have no desire to continue using tobacco. I have expressed how much this site has helped, and I acknowledge the efforts of others.
Please forgive me for my rather rude post, but had you actually reached out and I blew you off I would deserve the finger pointing. I have a personal responsibility to apologize and thank 4 individuals who have been staying in touch. I have a responsibility to express a blanket apology to everyone on KTC, especially in my group and I have the responsibility to at least explain myself.
Anything else? Might ruin my perfect day.
'Sno' B) 'Sno'
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Be back here to explain in a bit. I have not used tobacco since my departure for a few weeks. I owe you all an apology for not being more proactive and while this is not an excuse nor does it excuse my lack of participation this is what has been going on in a nut shell-
Had a suicide, a death and a maternity leave go out all within 3 weeks of each other at work. I have been pulling 200+ hour pay periods. While at work I don't bring my laptop but I do have my phone. I should be using it more but I don't. I gotta run now to go pee in a cup, talk to Mr. Policeman and have a physical done today for a new job. I have also during that time had 3 interviews, and been offered two new jobs. So lots of things going on.
I will get back on tonight.
Thanks guys, I am still quit and will remain quit and I do apologize for my dissapearing act.
Garbage.
You had a contact 100% willing to post for you, and you half-assed sending a basic text each day.
"Please post day __ for me". Less than 30 seconds, that's 10. The BARE MINIMUM and you didn't do it.
You're lucky Nuke/ZC/monroe didn't place you on the cave list, because getting back from that this late would not have been fun. As for being in now, I mean, you're on the roll, you'll probably hit the hall. But when you don't care enough to hop on even once in that time and explain what's going on, why would anyone show it back when you reach the milestone with us?
Rule #1 - No excuses, post roll.
edit: your second reply did not change any of the above.
Cool story bro. You know what is totally awesome about today. I am 86 days without tobacco and feel great. So while I understand what you are trying to get at, you won't break me down! I feel bad, I explained myself. Keep typing hard ass remarks, I don't see how it is going to help in any way. If it is merely to get your feelings towards me off your chest, feel free. I will read over what you gotta say and respect your comments. I am quit, and I have no desire to continue using tobacco. I have expressed how much this site has helped, and I acknowledge the efforts of others.
Please forgive me for my rather rude post, but had you actually reached out and I blew you off I would deserve the finger pointing. I have a personal responsibility to apologize and thank 4 individuals who have been staying in touch. I have a responsibility to express a blanket apology to everyone on KTC, especially in my group and I have the responsibility to at least explain myself.
Anything else? Might ruin my perfect day.
'Sno' B) 'Sno'
you apologized...you're still quit...move on. posting roll is sacred and i get it. But you did apologize and thats good enough for me...hold that...its good enough for me if you become 100% from here to HOF...good enough?
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Be back here to explain in a bit. I have not used tobacco since my departure for a few weeks. I owe you all an apology for not being more proactive and while this is not an excuse nor does it excuse my lack of participation this is what has been going on in a nut shell-
Had a suicide, a death and a maternity leave go out all within 3 weeks of each other at work. I have been pulling 200+ hour pay periods. While at work I don't bring my laptop but I do have my phone. I should be using it more but I don't. I gotta run now to go pee in a cup, talk to Mr. Policeman and have a physical done today for a new job. I have also during that time had 3 interviews, and been offered two new jobs. So lots of things going on.
I will get back on tonight.
Thanks guys, I am still quit and will remain quit and I do apologize for my dissapearing act.
Garbage.
You had a contact 100% willing to post for you, and you half-assed sending a basic text each day.
"Please post day __ for me". Less than 30 seconds, that's 10. The BARE MINIMUM and you didn't do it.
You're lucky Nuke/ZC/monroe didn't place you on the cave list, because getting back from that this late would not have been fun. As for being in now, I mean, you're on the roll, you'll probably hit the hall. But when you don't care enough to hop on even once in that time and explain what's going on, why would anyone show it back when you reach the milestone with us?
Rule #1 - No excuses, post roll.
edit: your second reply did not change any of the above.
Cool story bro. You know what is totally awesome about today. I am 86 days without tobacco and feel great. So while I understand what you are trying to get at, you won't break me down! I feel bad, I explained myself. Keep typing hard ass remarks, I don't see how it is going to help in any way. If it is merely to get your feelings towards me off your chest, feel free. I will read over what you gotta say and respect your comments. I am quit, and I have no desire to continue using tobacco. I have expressed how much this site has helped, and I acknowledge the efforts of others.
Please forgive me for my rather rude post, but had you actually reached out and I blew you off I would deserve the finger pointing. I have a personal responsibility to apologize and thank 4 individuals who have been staying in touch. I have a responsibility to express a blanket apology to everyone on KTC, especially in my group and I have the responsibility to at least explain myself.
Anything else? Might ruin my perfect day.
'Sno' B) 'Sno'
Simply sick of people disappearing while the rest are showing that they take this seriously. You presented an apology and a set of pretty heinous circumstances. My apologies for the attack, especially since you were still in contact with folks from the site. I'm sure you have heard it, but I want to reinforce that nicotine doesn't take breaks. It's in those moments that you will be most vulnerable. A freakin text to one of your contacts is not too much to ask.
Quit on.
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Be back here to explain in a bit. I have not used tobacco since my departure for a few weeks. I owe you all an apology for not being more proactive and while this is not an excuse nor does it excuse my lack of participation this is what has been going on in a nut shell-
Had a suicide, a death and a maternity leave go out all within 3 weeks of each other at work. I have been pulling 200+ hour pay periods. While at work I don't bring my laptop but I do have my phone. I should be using it more but I don't. I gotta run now to go pee in a cup, talk to Mr. Policeman and have a physical done today for a new job. I have also during that time had 3 interviews, and been offered two new jobs. So lots of things going on.
I will get back on tonight.
Thanks guys, I am still quit and will remain quit and I do apologize for my dissapearing act.
Garbage.
You had a contact 100% willing to post for you, and you half-assed sending a basic text each day.
"Please post day __ for me". Less than 30 seconds, that's 10. The BARE MINIMUM and you didn't do it.
You're lucky Nuke/ZC/monroe didn't place you on the cave list, because getting back from that this late would not have been fun. As for being in now, I mean, you're on the roll, you'll probably hit the hall. But when you don't care enough to hop on even once in that time and explain what's going on, why would anyone show it back when you reach the milestone with us?
Rule #1 - No excuses, post roll.
edit: your second reply did not change any of the above.
Cool story bro. You know what is totally awesome about today. I am 86 days without tobacco and feel great. So while I understand what you are trying to get at, you won't break me down! I feel bad, I explained myself. Keep typing hard ass remarks, I don't see how it is going to help in any way. If it is merely to get your feelings towards me off your chest, feel free. I will read over what you gotta say and respect your comments. I am quit, and I have no desire to continue using tobacco. I have expressed how much this site has helped, and I acknowledge the efforts of others.
Please forgive me for my rather rude post, but had you actually reached out and I blew you off I would deserve the finger pointing. I have a personal responsibility to apologize and thank 4 individuals who have been staying in touch. I have a responsibility to express a blanket apology to everyone on KTC, especially in my group and I have the responsibility to at least explain myself.
Anything else? Might ruin my perfect day.
'Sno' B) 'Sno'
Simply sick of people disappearing while the rest are showing that they take this seriously. You presented an apology and a set of pretty heinous circumstances. My apologies for the attack, especially since you were still in contact with folks from the site. I'm sure you have heard it, but I want to reinforce that nicotine doesn't take breaks. It's in those moments that you will be most vulnerable. A freakin text to one of your contacts is not too much to ask.
Quit on.
Still quitin on brother.
I am glad we have resolved any issues, and I meant no hard feelings.
On another note as an FYI for anyone that does care. I am golden on the new job and have told the other job (to which I am keeping part time) to fuck off until next month. The new job starts the 14th tentatively so I have no excuse not to post as I will be sitting on my ass catching up on TV and movies and doing my new found hobby of cooking as well as shooting and reloading.
I have gotten over almost all of the major hurdles that I associated with chewing. Driving, Filling out Paperwork on the job, waking up at odd hours and needing a jolt, and a few others. Let me reiterate that, I have decreased those hurdles. They are still there but only for a second and then the thought of having a turd in my mouth kicks in. Yea I said it, I think tobacco and tobacco juice is fucking disgusting.
I am so glad I did not start reloading as a chewer. That would be one fucking hard habit to kick and would have come at the cost of having to buy commercial ammo as I don't think an activity as mind numbing yet requiring high concentration could be separated from nicotine once paired.
Keep your quits up!
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Be back here to explain in a bit. I have not used tobacco since my departure for a few weeks. I owe you all an apology for not being more proactive and while this is not an excuse nor does it excuse my lack of participation this is what has been going on in a nut shell-
Had a suicide, a death and a maternity leave go out all within 3 weeks of each other at work. I have been pulling 200+ hour pay periods. While at work I don't bring my laptop but I do have my phone. I should be using it more but I don't. I gotta run now to go pee in a cup, talk to Mr. Policeman and have a physical done today for a new job. I have also during that time had 3 interviews, and been offered two new jobs. So lots of things going on.
I will get back on tonight.
Thanks guys, I am still quit and will remain quit and I do apologize for my dissapearing act.
Garbage.
You had a contact 100% willing to post for you, and you half-assed sending a basic text each day.
"Please post day __ for me". Less than 30 seconds, that's 10. The BARE MINIMUM and you didn't do it.
You're lucky Nuke/ZC/monroe didn't place you on the cave list, because getting back from that this late would not have been fun. As for being in now, I mean, you're on the roll, you'll probably hit the hall. But when you don't care enough to hop on even once in that time and explain what's going on, why would anyone show it back when you reach the milestone with us?
Rule #1 - No excuses, post roll.
edit: your second reply did not change any of the above.
Cool story bro. You know what is totally awesome about today. I am 86 days without tobacco and feel great. So while I understand what you are trying to get at, you won't break me down! I feel bad, I explained myself. Keep typing hard ass remarks, I don't see how it is going to help in any way. If it is merely to get your feelings towards me off your chest, feel free. I will read over what you gotta say and respect your comments. I am quit, and I have no desire to continue using tobacco. I have expressed how much this site has helped, and I acknowledge the efforts of others.
Please forgive me for my rather rude post, but had you actually reached out and I blew you off I would deserve the finger pointing. I have a personal responsibility to apologize and thank 4 individuals who have been staying in touch. I have a responsibility to express a blanket apology to everyone on KTC, especially in my group and I have the responsibility to at least explain myself.
Anything else? Might ruin my perfect day.
'Sno' B) 'Sno'
Simply sick of people disappearing while the rest are showing that they take this seriously. You presented an apology and a set of pretty heinous circumstances. My apologies for the attack, especially since you were still in contact with folks from the site. I'm sure you have heard it, but I want to reinforce that nicotine doesn't take breaks. It's in those moments that you will be most vulnerable. A freakin text to one of your contacts is not too much to ask.
Quit on.
Still quitin on brother.
I am glad we have resolved any issues, and I meant no hard feelings.
On another note as an FYI for anyone that does care. I am golden on the new job and have told the other job (to which I am keeping part time) to fuck off until next month. The new job starts the 14th tentatively so I have no excuse not to post as I will be sitting on my ass catching up on TV and movies and doing my new found hobby of cooking as well as shooting and reloading.
I have gotten over almost all of the major hurdles that I associated with chewing. Driving, Filling out Paperwork on the job, waking up at odd hours and needing a jolt, and a few others. Let me reiterate that, I have decreased those hurdles. They are still there but only for a second and then the thought of having a turd in my mouth kicks in. Yea I said it, I think tobacco and tobacco juice is fucking disgusting.
I am so glad I did not start reloading as a chewer. That would be one fucking hard habit to kick and would have come at the cost of having to buy commercial ammo as I don't think an activity as mind numbing yet requiring high concentration could be separated from nicotine once paired.
Keep your quits up!
Ultimately, you being quit is what should be important to you. Just hope that you understand that this is a two way process; we all have shit going on in our life; jobs, asshole bosses, wives, children, school, people dying, life events, etc. and whatever. Posting roll everyday is your commitment to yourself and to your group and those supporting your group. It's the accountability part that I really think makes the difference. When I post YOU are a part of my accountability, can I count on you to be there? Or can I count on you just until the new job starts? Or are we just here when you need us? I really don't need an answer. Hoping you get the two way street part. I will be here and if at some time I want to back away, I will let those counting on me know that and not just disappear. As one of our fellow Bastards stated in another post, "I don't plan on posting roll while my diapers are being changed in the nursing home". This may not be forever, but while you are here the price of admission is posting roll and being a man of your word. Quit on Pad!
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Glad to see you posting roll, hopping on the train and celebrating 100 days of freedom. Congratulations!
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Congrats on 1-hundy, Paddy -- great effort, and look forward to seeing you around for another hundred. But let's just stick with +1 and go from there. Quit on.
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Congrats on 1-hundy, Paddy -- great effort, and look forward to seeing you around for another hundred. But let's just stick with +1 and go from there. Quit on.
Thanks Krusty and Sam. Thanks to every single one of you guys on here. I might not have participated as much as some folks. Don't think for one minute though that I don't give KTC credit. I know I could not have done it without the resource. While I might not have interacted on a daily basis I would often read and lurk around the website. In a sick sort of way knowing that others were suffering just like myself made it easier.
I plan on making this my life, this is just one part of a whole lifestyle change. Having said that! I have been doing all of my new life choices day by day. It makes it doable and as I hit nearly 30lbs of weight loss since quitting, a new job (improvement), new friendships both on and offline as well as an ever growing strong reputation in my field (recent compliments and such) I have to say I made the right choice.
For the new guys who might be lurking like I did, just know the KTC works.
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Congrats on 1-hundy, Paddy -- great effort, and look forward to seeing you around for another hundred. But let's just stick with +1 and go from there. Quit on.
Thanks Krusty and Sam. Thanks to every single one of you guys on here. I might not have participated as much as some folks. Don't think for one minute though that I don't give KTC credit. I know I could not have done it without the resource. While I might not have interacted on a daily basis I would often read and lurk around the website. In a sick sort of way knowing that others were suffering just like myself made it easier.
I plan on making this my life, this is just one part of a whole lifestyle change. Having said that! I have been doing all of my new life choices day by day. It makes it doable and as I hit nearly 30lbs of weight loss since quitting, a new job (improvement), new friendships both on and offline as well as an ever growing strong reputation in my field (recent compliments and such) I have to say I made the right choice.
For the new guys who might be lurking like I did, just know the KTC works.
You've come a long way! Huge congrats on a job well done. Keep going. And stay on the path!