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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: lcwb96 on August 28, 2012, 10:23:00 AM
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Alright, here we go. This has been months in the making. I have been dipping a can a day for the past 26 years. Started when I was 12. Thought it was cool and wanted to be like the other guys (boys). I know this is going to suck, but I am ready and posting here looking and needing your support.
Not sure how this roll call thing works, but I'll figure it out. Any tips would be good though.
Here we go. I WILL NOT DIP TODAY!!!! 'finger point'
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Go to the welcome center (pink highlighted above) and read everything on that page.
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LCWB -- you're coming up on 1 hour since your initial post...take a deep breath and make it two hours....
Rinse and repeat, every minute/hour/day...
dano
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Alright, here we go. This has been months in the making. I have been dipping a can a day for the past 26 years. Started when I was 12. Thought it was cool and wanted to be like the other guys (boys). I know this is going to suck, but I am ready and posting here looking and needing your support.
Not sure how this roll call thing works, but I'll figure it out. Any tips would be good though.
Here we go. I WILL NOT DIP TODAY!!!! 'finger point'
Just quit until you can't quit no more.
Lay down, rest a while.
Get back up and quit some more!
B)
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Well, I'm still here and have successfully made it through Day 1!!! Hell yeah!!!. I must say yesterday afternoon (10 hours quit) was a SOB for about 2 hours. From 4 to 6 I wanted a dip so bad I thought I was going to explode.
As soon as that passed, I was hungry as HELL!!! I'm never hungry that early in the evening and don't usually eat dinner until 8:30 or 9:00 at night. I guess that nicotine was really suppressing my appetite. So I eat everything in sight, but tried to keep it to fruits, veggies, and chicken (my wife is awesome at keeping healthy shit in the house). I ate two whole tomatoes, two bananas, three apples, roasted chicken breast and a heavy helping of noodles.
After the meal, of course I wanted a big fatty in my lip... I actually cracked a beer and this helped relieve my craving. I have never been able to dip while drinking, but usually smoke when I drink... (Yeah, that's right, fighting two demons here). But it worked. All day, I was fighting the dip bitch and then I had a beer and started a new fight with the smoky bitch. Smoky doesn't come on nearly as strong as dip bitch for me so I handled her pretty easily until bedtime.
Sleeping sucked... or should I say lack thereof. Waking up hourly, looking at the clock, waking up sweating like a woman on menopause (about 5 times), got the shakes like a SOB a couple of time and really think I kept going in and out of a fever. I'll keep an eye on the shakes and sweats and may pay my doctor a visit to make sure it's not a bigger issue.
In any case, I'm still here. DAY2. NO NIC BITCH FOR ME TODAY!! 'finger point'
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Great job. Way to eat healthy. I ate a lot of peanut butter and pretzels. Gained 20 lbs but now am leveling off again. Quit all day with you.
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lcwb,
That is fucking awesome. Crawling the walls at night is where you're supposed to be right now. Embrace the suck. Actually turn the tables on the Nic Bitch and learn to enjoy it. It is the feeling on your recovery...and there's nothing bad about that.
I used to tell myself that "I GET to feel like shit"...like it was a privilege that only bad-ass quitters GET to experience. I would look in the mirror and actually say it out loud to myself in my garage. I saw it as a right of passage.
Nobody can do this for you. It doesn't matter how much money you have, who you know or who your daddy is. It just comes down to you. Do YOU have the determination to stand to be counted with the bad-ass mother-fucking quitters? I'm pumped about your quit. Stay strong and stay quit, brother!!!
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Your are on the right track, proud to be quit with you today.
I took some sleep aids to help me get some rest after a couple nights sleepless, helped tremendously to start the day with a fresh brain.
First few days the early am suck for me was the worst, then the mornings got good and then evenings and after dinner got even tougher yet. I walked my dog until she didn't want to walk anymore and tried hard to wear myself out when things got real tough. I also had an insatiable appetite but that passed after day 4.
Read all you can, that helps to know you aren't in this alone. When the minutes seem like hours you'll know you are freeing yourself from nic's clutches. Use this pain and write it down here or somewhere to remind you to never visit that bitch again. Never again one day at a time.
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awesome news man. congrats on the quit. It was real bad for me for 5 days. It started getting easier after that with some miserable days inbetween. Not a straight line, but it does get easier.
Just know that by day 4 your physical stuff will be mostly gone. find a way to keep yourself occupied. and busy. Getting your mind off it helps tremendously.
I came on here and went into the chat room just to kill time, when i was having a hard time. I still do it.
Best of luck to you and stay quit with me.
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lcwb96 here...
Okay December boys, listen up, it's been a couple of days since I spent any substantial time on the site (other than posting roll), but coming back, it's becoming clear we have an issue with cavers.
I challenge ALL of you to team up with at least one other December quitter, reach out and PM them, get their number so you can text them at any time, KEEP THEM ACCOUNTABLE, BE THERE FOR THEM, HELP THEM. We're all going through this shit together and it SUCKS!!!! Man up, grab a buddy, and beat this nic bitch. I am QLMF'ers with b62 and dew!!! I hope to get to know more of you.
In addition to keeping your December brothers in line, reach out to some veterans on the role. They are ALL willing to help. Go to the chat site and blow off some steam.
You MUST be committed all the way, have a quit plan, know what to do when the going gets tough, REACH OUT FOR HELP. Bottom line, you have to want to do it for YOU, but we will all need help.
Update: Day 9 for me... almost caved last night. We are in the midst of selling our house, buying a new house, packing, moving, closing, kids starting new school, and then my iPhone dies!!! It literally f'ing dies!!! It's brand new and it just goes bye bye... Asked my wife where my iPhone box is that I told her not to throw away... OMFG!!! She threw it away!!!! At this point, I need a dip like a m-f'er, sweating profusely, so pissed I'm shaking like I'm about to go into black-out mode and start killing shit!!!! Phone is broke, can't text, internet is cancelled already, no KTC website, what the Frick am I gonna do!?!?!? Then I remember the guys on KTC talking about exercising, burning calories, walking the dog so out I went and ran my ass off (which took about ten minutes 'zombie' ) and had to reduce myself to walking (I'm so out of shape). Looking back today, I am so glad I didn't cave. I wanted to SO BAD and it would have been so easy... hell, my wife's cigs were right there for the taking.
Bottom line... I have found that breaking through moments like these strengthen your resolve, it does make it a little easier the next time a crave hits. It also makes ME proud of myself and lets me know I have to post roll... not just for me, but for all my December brothers!!!
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You're doing it right, brother!!! Proud to be quit with you. As for being out of shape...Usain Bolt can only run for 10 seconds. You're a super-bad ass...assuming a comparable pace, of course.
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well done 96. That is how we get shit done around here.
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well done 96. That is how we get shit done around here.
Like a mother f'n boss!!!! Well done, holler if you need anything
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That's my kinda quit! Pm if ya need anything.
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lcwb96 here...
Okay December boys, listen up, it's been a couple of days since I spent any substantial time on the site (other than posting roll), but coming back, it's becoming clear we have an issue with cavers.
I challenge ALL of you to team up with at least one other December quitter, reach out and PM them, get their number so you can text them at any time, KEEP THEM ACCOUNTABLE, BE THERE FOR THEM, HELP THEM. We're all going through this shit together and it SUCKS!!!! Man up, grab a buddy, and beat this nic bitch. I am QLMF'ers with b62 and dew!!! I hope to get to know more of you.
In addition to keeping your December brothers in line, reach out to some veterans on the role. They are ALL willing to help. Go to the chat site and blow off some steam.
You MUST be committed all the way, have a quit plan, know what to do when the going gets tough, REACH OUT FOR HELP. Bottom line, you have to want to do it for YOU, but we will all need help.
Update: Day 9 for me... almost caved last night. We are in the midst of selling our house, buying a new house, packing, moving, closing, kids starting new school, and then my iPhone dies!!! It literally f'ing dies!!! It's brand new and it just goes bye bye... Asked my wife where my iPhone box is that I told her not to throw away... OMFG!!! She threw it away!!!! At this point, I need a dip like a m-f'er, sweating profusely, so pissed I'm shaking like I'm about to go into black-out mode and start killing shit!!!! Phone is broke, can't text, internet is cancelled already, no KTC website, what the Frick am I gonna do!?!?!? Then I remember the guys on KTC talking about exercising, burning calories, walking the dog so out I went and ran my ass off (which took about ten minutes 'zombie' ) and had to reduce myself to walking (I'm so out of shape). Looking back today, I am so glad I didn't cave. I wanted to SO BAD and it would have been so easy... hell, my wife's cigs were right there for the taking.
Bottom line... I have found that breaking through moments like these strengthen your resolve, it does make it a little easier the next time a crave hits. It also makes ME proud of myself and lets me know I have to post roll... not just for me, but for all my December brothers!!!
You need to post this in your group. It's easy to ignore quitters with a few hundred or thousand days quit and write them off as "out of touch" or using big numbers as a bullying tactic. But coming from you...someone deep in the shit with them.....well, let's just say it should have more meaning to them coming from you.
Keep it up. You faced a trigger and met the challenge with your firm decision NOT to cave. One of many big steps in your quit.
Quit Like Fuck.
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lcwb96 here...
Okay December boys, listen up, it's been a couple of days since I spent any substantial time on the site (other than posting roll), but coming back, it's becoming clear we have an issue with cavers.
I challenge ALL of you to team up with at least one other December quitter, reach out and PM them, get their number so you can text them at any time, KEEP THEM ACCOUNTABLE, BE THERE FOR THEM, HELP THEM. We're all going through this shit together and it SUCKS!!!! Man up, grab a buddy, and beat this nic bitch. I am QLMF'ers with b62 and dew!!! I hope to get to know more of you.
In addition to keeping your December brothers in line, reach out to some veterans on the role. They are ALL willing to help. Go to the chat site and blow off some steam.
You MUST be committed all the way, have a quit plan, know what to do when the going gets tough, REACH OUT FOR HELP. Bottom line, you have to want to do it for YOU, but we will all need help.
Update: Day 9 for me... almost caved last night. We are in the midst of selling our house, buying a new house, packing, moving, closing, kids starting new school, and then my iPhone dies!!! It literally f'ing dies!!! It's brand new and it just goes bye bye... Asked my wife where my iPhone box is that I told her not to throw away... OMFG!!! She threw it away!!!! At this point, I need a dip like a m-f'er, sweating profusely, so pissed I'm shaking like I'm about to go into black-out mode and start killing shit!!!! Phone is broke, can't text, internet is cancelled already, no KTC website, what the Frick am I gonna do!?!?!? Then I remember the guys on KTC talking about exercising, burning calories, walking the dog so out I went and ran my ass off (which took about ten minutes 'zombie' ) and had to reduce myself to walking (I'm so out of shape). Looking back today, I am so glad I didn't cave. I wanted to SO BAD and it would have been so easy... hell, my wife's cigs were right there for the taking.Â
Bottom line... I have found that breaking through moments like these strengthen your resolve, it does make it a little easier the next time a crave hits. It also makes ME proud of myself and lets me know I have to post roll... not just for me, but for all my December brothers!!!
You need to post this in your group. It's easy to ignore quitters with a few hundred or thousand days quit and write them off as "out of touch" or using big numbers as a bullying tactic. But coming from you...someone deep in the shit with them.....well, let's just say it should have more meaning to them coming from you.
Keep it up. You faced a trigger and met the challenge with your firm decision NOT to cave. One of many big steps in your quit.
Quit Like Fuck.
Now thats some good reading shit right there. Nice bro!
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lcwb96 here...
Okay December boys, listen up, it's been a couple of days since I spent any substantial time on the site (other than posting roll), but coming back, it's becoming clear we have an issue with cavers.
I challenge ALL of you to team up with at least one other December quitter, reach out and PM them, get their number so you can text them at any time, KEEP THEM ACCOUNTABLE, BE THERE FOR THEM, HELP THEM. We're all going through this shit together and it SUCKS!!!! Man up, grab a buddy, and beat this nic bitch. I am QLMF'ers with b62 and dew!!! I hope to get to know more of you.
In addition to keeping your December brothers in line, reach out to some veterans on the role. They are ALL willing to help. Go to the chat site and blow off some steam.
You MUST be committed all the way, have a quit plan, know what to do when the going gets tough, REACH OUT FOR HELP. Bottom line, you have to want to do it for YOU, but we will all need help.
Update: Day 9 for me... almost caved last night. We are in the midst of selling our house, buying a new house, packing, moving, closing, kids starting new school, and then my iPhone dies!!! It literally f'ing dies!!! It's brand new and it just goes bye bye... Asked my wife where my iPhone box is that I told her not to throw away... OMFG!!! She threw it away!!!! At this point, I need a dip like a m-f'er, sweating profusely, so pissed I'm shaking like I'm about to go into black-out mode and start killing shit!!!! Phone is broke, can't text, internet is cancelled already, no KTC website, what the Frick am I gonna do!?!?!? Then I remember the guys on KTC talking about exercising, burning calories, walking the dog so out I went and ran my ass off (which took about ten minutes 'zombie' ) and had to reduce myself to walking (I'm so out of shape). Looking back today, I am so glad I didn't cave. I wanted to SO BAD and it would have been so easy... hell, my wife's cigs were right there for the taking.Â
Bottom line... I have found that breaking through moments like these strengthen your resolve, it does make it a little easier the next time a crave hits. It also makes ME proud of myself and lets me know I have to post roll... not just for me, but for all my December brothers!!!
You need to post this in your group. It's easy to ignore quitters with a few hundred or thousand days quit and write them off as "out of touch" or using big numbers as a bullying tactic. But coming from you...someone deep in the shit with them.....well, let's just say it should have more meaning to them coming from you.
Keep it up. You faced a trigger and met the challenge with your firm decision NOT to cave. One of many big steps in your quit.
Quit Like Fuck.
Now thats some good reading shit right there. Nice bro!
Pin this post to your header in the posting roll thread of Dec12. Things like this need said and read. I've done it in our group (Oct12) and have probably pissed off some of the part timers but have strengthened the overall resolve of the group. Stand up and help lead them by the example you've shown here. Like Coach said, it needs to be viewed.
Congrats on not giving in to the impulse fuck job nicotine was trying to pull on you! Proud of you!
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lcwb96 here...
Okay December boys, listen up, it's been a couple of days since I spent any substantial time on the site (other than posting roll), but coming back, it's becoming clear we have an issue with cavers.
I challenge ALL of you to team up with at least one other December quitter, reach out and PM them, get their number so you can text them at any time, KEEP THEM ACCOUNTABLE, BE THERE FOR THEM, HELP THEM. We're all going through this shit together and it SUCKS!!!! Man up, grab a buddy, and beat this nic bitch. I am QLMF'ers with b62 and dew!!! I hope to get to know more of you.
In addition to keeping your December brothers in line, reach out to some veterans on the role. They are ALL willing to help. Go to the chat site and blow off some steam.
You MUST be committed all the way, have a quit plan, know what to do when the going gets tough, REACH OUT FOR HELP. Bottom line, you have to want to do it for YOU, but we will all need help.
Update: Day 9 for me... almost caved last night. We are in the midst of selling our house, buying a new house, packing, moving, closing, kids starting new school, and then my iPhone dies!!! It literally f'ing dies!!! It's brand new and it just goes bye bye... Asked my wife where my iPhone box is that I told her not to throw away... OMFG!!! She threw it away!!!! At this point, I need a dip like a m-f'er, sweating profusely, so pissed I'm shaking like I'm about to go into black-out mode and start killing shit!!!! Phone is broke, can't text, internet is cancelled already, no KTC website, what the Frick am I gonna do!?!?!? Then I remember the guys on KTC talking about exercising, burning calories, walking the dog so out I went and ran my ass off (which took about ten minutes 'zombie' ) and had to reduce myself to walking (I'm so out of shape). Looking back today, I am so glad I didn't cave. I wanted to SO BAD and it would have been so easy... hell, my wife's cigs were right there for the taking.Â
Bottom line... I have found that breaking through moments like these strengthen your resolve, it does make it a little easier the next time a crave hits. It also makes ME proud of myself and lets me know I have to post roll... not just for me, but for all my December brothers!!!
You need to post this in your group. It's easy to ignore quitters with a few hundred or thousand days quit and write them off as "out of touch" or using big numbers as a bullying tactic. But coming from you...someone deep in the shit with them.....well, let's just say it should have more meaning to them coming from you.
Keep it up. You faced a trigger and met the challenge with your firm decision NOT to cave. One of many big steps in your quit.
Quit Like Fuck.
Now thats some good reading shit right there. Nice bro!
Pin this post to your header in the posting roll thread of Dec12. Things like this need said and read. I've done it in our group (Oct12) and have probably pissed off some of the part timers but have strengthened the overall resolve of the group. Stand up and help lead them by the example you've shown here. Like Coach said, it needs to be viewed.
Congrats on not giving in to the impulse fuck job nicotine was trying to pull on you! Proud of you!
awww......how bout this for all the DEC ladies......
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I don't know what to say really. The next 100 days will be the biggest battle of your life and it all comes down to this. Inch by inch, day by day...until you're finished. With 100 days left, you are in hell right now. Believe me. And you can stay here and get the crap kicked out of you or you can fight your way back into the light. You can climb out of hell. One day at a time. One inch at a time.
Now I can't do it for you.
I look around and I see these seasoned quitters and I think...I think that quitting is just a game of inches.
Because when you quit, the margin for error is so small. I mean...not enough fake stuff and you don't make it. A few missed posts and you don't quite get there. The inches we need are everywhere around us. They are in every break of your quit, every day, every minute, every second.
At KTC, we fight for that inch. Because we know when we add up all those inches that's going to make the difference between WINNING and LOSING, between QUITTING and CAVING.
I'll tell you this...in any quit, it is the person who is willing to do whatever it takes who is going to win that inch. And I know if you are going to make it, it is because, you are still willing to fight for that inch because that is what QUITTING is.
Now I can't make you do it.
You gotta connect with the seasoned quitters here at KTC. Connect with them and exchange numbers.
Now I think you are going to connect with a person who will go that inch with you. You are going to connect with a person who will fight, post roll and quit with you every single day because they know when it comes down to it, you are gonna do the same thing for them.
That's a team, people, and either we STAY QUIT, as a team...or we CAVE, as individuals.
That's quitting, gang.
That's all it is.
Now, what are you going to do?
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I am dusting this post off. After nearly two months quit, wanted to come back and check it out. I really wish I had come up with a better title, but I was under a dense fog advisory at the time and wasn't really sure if this was real or a dream.
I'll be using this as my journal as I am sure many others have.
The last two months have been filled with highs and lows. One moment, standing on the top of the mountain and feeling like the nic bitch could never touch me again to the next moment feeling like I couldn't go another minute without a dip and knowing I was only a short drive and five dollars from "ahhhhhhh" (that was nic bitch talking).
The nic bitch has laid off at times and other times has lived up to her name. When she tells you and almost convinces you that really did enjoy dipping, that you really did enjoy the taste, and that just one more would be okay, you know you are dealing with pure evil.
It is 59 days today. Ain't no way in hell I get here without KTC and all my quit brothers in the December Chew Wreckin' Crew.
I know I have been more vocal than most in our group and I may have pissed some of you guys off. That was not my intention, but I do not apologize for working to keep others around me in this group accountable to each other quit. You may not agree with all my methods (not even sure I do), but never once have I not been supportive and have always tried to help as best I could.
So with that, we will continue this journey together, supporting each other, and bitch slapping each other across the keyboard if that's what is called for. NEVER give in, NEVER give up, NEVER stop quitting, EVERYDAY!!!
lcwb96
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Day 92- Went to the dentist today. Wasn't sure what to expect, but requested a full cancer screening and overall evaluation. Good news... no cancer or signs of cancer in my mouth, tongue, cheeks, or throat. Whew!!! That's a relief. It had been ten years since seeing a dentist.. and my Dad is a friggin' dentist!!! How stupid is that?!?!?! I did walk away with a cavity, though (first in my 38 years) and need to get my wisdom teeth pulled.
Oh well, I guess I'll endure a little pain of teeth extractions over an entire lower jaw extraction because I am cancer free and QUIT LIKE FUCK!!!
LCWB96
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Congratulations LCWB96 on being cancer free.
Quit every a.m. the earlier the better. Keep your word. Make it to bed. wake and REPEAT!
Make your next 38 yrs the best years! Spread the quit and never forget the Fog, funk and suck of your first week of QUIT!
Your quit is my quit. I quit with you TODAY! 'bang head'
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Day 162 -
Damn, it's been 70 days since I last posted on this thread. I must say, the past 62 days (post HOF) have gone much faster than the first 62 days. I find myself going for hours without thinking about the nic bitch. Yes, I still think of her or she finds me EVERY damn day. Most of the time, it is a fleeting thought, or a "gee whiz", let's have a dip reflex... and then it's gone. Other times, albiet not as often, I do get hit with the "damn, I want a dip right now" moments. Those seem to be once or twice a week and there is usually a trigger associated with those (but not always).
If anyone has any advice on the following, let me know....
I have gotten my brother (true blood brother) to quit dipping. He quit after the first of the year and has been going good. At least that's what he tells me as we live six hours away from each other. I "post roll" with him via texting him and tell him I am quit with him every day. I cannot, for whatever reason, get him to look at or join KTC. I have sent him articles, links, and given him tidbits of information and advice from what I have learned from KTC, but he just doesn't seem to want to join. You know the excuses... not enough time, that's weird, I don't need that shit, etc...
The same goes for two of my co-workers that I have gotten to quit. I have convinced them to quit, but can't seem to close the deal on getting them to join KTC. I guess sales is not my thing...
Perhaps I should just post their emails right here and let you all get a hold of them... well, may be not.... 'no'
I just want them to succeed and I know that the only way I have been able to sustain my quit is because of this site... 'help'
lcwb96
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Day 162 -
Damn, it's been 70 days since I last posted on this thread. I must say, the past 62 days (post HOF) have gone much faster than the first 62 days. I find myself going for hours without thinking about the nic bitch. Yes, I still think of her or she finds me EVERY damn day. Most of the time, it is a fleeting thought, or a "gee whiz", let's have a dip reflex... and then it's gone. Other times, albiet not as often, I do get hit with the "damn, I want a dip right now" moments. Those seem to be once or twice a week and there is usually a trigger associated with those (but not always).
If anyone has any advice on the following, let me know....
I have gotten my brother (true blood brother) to quit dipping. He quit after the first of the year and has been going good. At least that's what he tells me as we live six hours away from each other. I "post roll" with him via texting him and tell him I am quit with him every day. I cannot, for whatever reason, get him to look at or join KTC. I have sent him articles, links, and given him tidbits of information and advice from what I have learned from KTC, but he just doesn't seem to want to join. You know the excuses... not enough time, that's weird, I don't need that shit, etc...
The same goes for two of my co-workers that I have gotten to quit. I have convinced them to quit, but can't seem to close the deal on getting them to join KTC. I guess sales is not my thing...
Perhaps I should just post their emails right here and let you all get a hold of them... well, may be not.... 'no'
I just want them to succeed and I know that the only way I have been able to sustain my quit is because of this site... 'help'
lcwb96
It is particularly helpful for me to hear you and others describe how the cravings can change (but remain the same?) over time. If these people you care about are avoiding KTC , theres little you might do about it now. Even though quitting is simple, (stop chewing ) the the physcial and then mental tricks that addiction uses are not simple. It is very difficult for most of to admit to ourselves that we are addicted. It must be even harder to stay quit if you are not aware of how nicotine screws with our minds. Maybe get them to at least carry the contract to return to chewing tobacco, and being aware of the decision that could really be.
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Day 162 -
Damn, it's been 70 days since I last posted on this thread. I must say, the past 62 days (post HOF) have gone much faster than the first 62 days. I find myself going for hours without thinking about the nic bitch. Yes, I still think of her or she finds me EVERY damn day. Most of the time, it is a fleeting thought, or a "gee whiz", let's have a dip reflex... and then it's gone. Other times, albiet not as often, I do get hit with the "damn, I want a dip right now" moments. Those seem to be once or twice a week and there is usually a trigger associated with those (but not always).
If anyone has any advice on the following, let me know....
I have gotten my brother (true blood brother) to quit dipping. He quit after the first of the year and has been going good. At least that's what he tells me as we live six hours away from each other. I "post roll" with him via texting him and tell him I am quit with him every day. I cannot, for whatever reason, get him to look at or join KTC. I have sent him articles, links, and given him tidbits of information and advice from what I have learned from KTC, but he just doesn't seem to want to join. You know the excuses... not enough time, that's weird, I don't need that shit, etc...
The same goes for two of my co-workers that I have gotten to quit. I have convinced them to quit, but can't seem to close the deal on getting them to join KTC. I guess sales is not my thing...
Perhaps I should just post their emails right here and let you all get a hold of them... well, may be not.... 'no'Â
I just want them to succeed and I know that the only way I have been able to sustain my quit is because of this site... 'help'
lcwb96
It is particularly helpful for me to hear you and others describe how the cravings can change (but remain the same?) over time. If these people you care about are avoiding KTC , theres little you might do about it now. Even though quitting is simple, (stop chewing ) the the physcial and then mental tricks that addiction uses are not simple. It is very difficult for most of to admit to ourselves that we are addicted. It must be even harder to stay quit if you are not aware of how nicotine screws with our minds. Maybe get them to at least carry the contract to return to chewing tobacco, and being aware of the decision that could really be.
Great job trying to help others quit. The reality is that some folks just are not ready for accountability. It is a bit of a planned cave. When and if they are ready to really quit, they will turn to you. Keep being their roll model.
Great work.
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Day 162 -
Damn, it's been 70 days since I last posted on this thread. I must say, the past 62 days (post HOF) have gone much faster than the first 62 days. I find myself going for hours without thinking about the nic bitch. Yes, I still think of her or she finds me EVERY damn day. Most of the time, it is a fleeting thought, or a "gee whiz", let's have a dip reflex... and then it's gone. Other times, albiet not as often, I do get hit with the "damn, I want a dip right now" moments. Those seem to be once or twice a week and there is usually a trigger associated with those (but not always).
If anyone has any advice on the following, let me know....
I have gotten my brother (true blood brother) to quit dipping. He quit after the first of the year and has been going good. At least that's what he tells me as we live six hours away from each other. I "post roll" with him via texting him and tell him I am quit with him every day. I cannot, for whatever reason, get him to look at or join KTC. I have sent him articles, links, and given him tidbits of information and advice from what I have learned from KTC, but he just doesn't seem to want to join. You know the excuses... not enough time, that's weird, I don't need that shit, etc...
The same goes for two of my co-workers that I have gotten to quit. I have convinced them to quit, but can't seem to close the deal on getting them to join KTC. I guess sales is not my thing...
Perhaps I should just post their emails right here and let you all get a hold of them... well, may be not....  'no'Â
I just want them to succeed and I know that the only way I have been able to sustain my quit is because of this site... 'help'
lcwb96
It is particularly helpful for me to hear you and others describe how the cravings can change (but remain the same?) over time. If these people you care about are avoiding KTC , theres little you might do about it now. Even though quitting is simple, (stop chewing ) the the physcial and then mental tricks that addiction uses are not simple. It is very difficult for most of to admit to ourselves that we are addicted. It must be even harder to stay quit if you are not aware of how nicotine screws with our minds. Maybe get them to at least carry the contract to return to chewing tobacco, and being aware of the decision that could really be.
Great job trying to help others quit. The reality is that some folks just are not ready for accountability. It is a bit of a planned cave. When and if they are ready to really quit, they will turn to you. Keep being their roll model.
Great work.
I am in a similar situation with a friend. We have not been able to hang out much the past few years but since I have not moved back we are doing lunches etc etc. He was shocked that I was able to quit and i talked up KTC. He signed up on day one and I have not heard from him since. No text msgs, return calls or posts. I got so excited that he was even thinking of quitting I probably pushed him too hard. It is tough when you are trying to help peeps that you care about. Lesson learned.......J
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Day 162 -
Damn, it's been 70 days since I last posted on this thread. I must say, the past 62 days (post HOF) have gone much faster than the first 62 days. I find myself going for hours without thinking about the nic bitch. Yes, I still think of her or she finds me EVERY damn day. Most of the time, it is a fleeting thought, or a "gee whiz", let's have a dip reflex... and then it's gone. Other times, albiet not as often, I do get hit with the "damn, I want a dip right now" moments. Those seem to be once or twice a week and there is usually a trigger associated with those (but not always).
If anyone has any advice on the following, let me know....
I have gotten my brother (true blood brother) to quit dipping. He quit after the first of the year and has been going good. At least that's what he tells me as we live six hours away from each other. I "post roll" with him via texting him and tell him I am quit with him every day. I cannot, for whatever reason, get him to look at or join KTC. I have sent him articles, links, and given him tidbits of information and advice from what I have learned from KTC, but he just doesn't seem to want to join. You know the excuses... not enough time, that's weird, I don't need that shit, etc...
The same goes for two of my co-workers that I have gotten to quit. I have convinced them to quit, but can't seem to close the deal on getting them to join KTC. I guess sales is not my thing...
Perhaps I should just post their emails right here and let you all get a hold of them... well, may be not....  'no'Â
I just want them to succeed and I know that the only way I have been able to sustain my quit is because of this site... 'help'
lcwb96
It is particularly helpful for me to hear you and others describe how the cravings can change (but remain the same?) over time. If these people you care about are avoiding KTC , theres little you might do about it now. Even though quitting is simple, (stop chewing ) the the physcial and then mental tricks that addiction uses are not simple. It is very difficult for most of to admit to ourselves that we are addicted. It must be even harder to stay quit if you are not aware of how nicotine screws with our minds. Maybe get them to at least carry the contract to return to chewing tobacco, and being aware of the decision that could really be.
Great job trying to help others quit. The reality is that some folks just are not ready for accountability. It is a bit of a planned cave. When and if they are ready to really quit, they will turn to you. Keep being their roll model.
Great work.
I am in a similar situation with a friend. We have not been able to hang out much the past few years but since I have not moved back we are doing lunches etc etc. He was shocked that I was able to quit and i talked up KTC. He signed up on day one and I have not heard from him since. No text msgs, return calls or posts. I got so excited that he was even thinking of quitting I probably pushed him too hard. It is tough when you are trying to help peeps that you care about. Lesson learned.......J
I just want them to succeed and I know that the only way I have been able to sustain my quit is because of this site... 'help'
Have you told them that?
Maybe suggest they just log in and check it out, no pressure to sign up or post roll, just read the stories, words of wisdom, and hof speeches.
I looked around the site for a couple of days before I 'took the plunge' and posted.
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Day 162 -
Damn, it's been 70 days since I last posted on this thread. I must say, the past 62 days (post HOF) have gone much faster than the first 62 days. I find myself going for hours without thinking about the nic bitch. Yes, I still think of her or she finds me EVERY damn day. Most of the time, it is a fleeting thought, or a "gee whiz", let's have a dip reflex... and then it's gone. Other times, albiet not as often, I do get hit with the "damn, I want a dip right now" moments. Those seem to be once or twice a week and there is usually a trigger associated with those (but not always).
If anyone has any advice on the following, let me know....
I have gotten my brother (true blood brother) to quit dipping. He quit after the first of the year and has been going good. At least that's what he tells me as we live six hours away from each other. I "post roll" with him via texting him and tell him I am quit with him every day. I cannot, for whatever reason, get him to look at or join KTC. I have sent him articles, links, and given him tidbits of information and advice from what I have learned from KTC, but he just doesn't seem to want to join. You know the excuses... not enough time, that's weird, I don't need that shit, etc...
The same goes for two of my co-workers that I have gotten to quit. I have convinced them to quit, but can't seem to close the deal on getting them to join KTC. I guess sales is not my thing...
Perhaps I should just post their emails right here and let you all get a hold of them... well, may be not....  'no'Â
I just want them to succeed and I know that the only way I have been able to sustain my quit is because of this site... 'help'
lcwb96
It is particularly helpful for me to hear you and others describe how the cravings can change (but remain the same?) over time. If these people you care about are avoiding KTC , theres little you might do about it now. Even though quitting is simple, (stop chewing ) the the physcial and then mental tricks that addiction uses are not simple. It is very difficult for most of to admit to ourselves that we are addicted. It must be even harder to stay quit if you are not aware of how nicotine screws with our minds. Maybe get them to at least carry the contract to return to chewing tobacco, and being aware of the decision that could really be.
Great job trying to help others quit. The reality is that some folks just are not ready for accountability. It is a bit of a planned cave. When and if they are ready to really quit, they will turn to you. Keep being their roll model.
Great work.
I am in a similar situation with a friend. We have not been able to hang out much the past few years but since I have not moved back we are doing lunches etc etc. He was shocked that I was able to quit and i talked up KTC. He signed up on day one and I have not heard from him since. No text msgs, return calls or posts. I got so excited that he was even thinking of quitting I probably pushed him too hard. It is tough when you are trying to help peeps that you care about. Lesson learned.......J
I just want them to succeed and I know that the only way I have been able to sustain my quit is because of this site... 'help'
Have you told them that?
Maybe suggest they just log in and check it out, no pressure to sign up or post roll, just read the stories, words of wisdom, and hof speeches.
I looked around the site for a couple of days before I 'took the plunge' and posted.
The reality is that some folks just are not ready for accountability.Â
Spot on. We deal with accountability. Right now they're quitting with the knowledge that their cave is probably around the corner. No accountability except to themselves.
You're a good man for trying to help. You're helping by being there for them. And when they fall, be there to pick them up.