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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: killthegrizzlybear on July 04, 2013, 04:41:00 AM
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What's up guys and gals my name is Ryan, I'm 23 and I'm from southeastern PA. I stumbled across this website while trying to find a substitute for dip. I've been dipping for almost 5 years now. Started off with Skoal wintergreen for about a year then switched to my current poison Grizzly wintergreen. I used to go through a can in 2-3 days then slowed down to about 1 can every week but I'm back up to a can every 3-4 days. I always told myself that I would quit when my dentist could tell I've been dipping. Well when I went about 3 months ago he could tell right off the bat and told me I needed to stop ASAP. Instead of stopping I switched sides and am now tearing up the other side of my mouth. Cancer runs rampant in my family so I know that I have a good chance one day of getting it. I've tried quitting before using this chopped up beef jerky that they sell but it still has little chunks that hurt my gums. I'm not a fan of sunflower seeds and don't know what else I can use to satisfy the feeling of having a lip in. Sorry for the long post just wanted to put as much info up as possible.
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What's up guys and gals my name is Ryan, I'm 23 and I'm from southeastern PA. I stumbled across this website while trying to find a substitute for dip. I've been dipping for almost 5 years now. Started off with Skoal wintergreen for about a year then switched to my current poison Grizzly wintergreen. I used to go through a can in 2-3 days then slowed down to about 1 can every week but I'm back up to a can every 3-4 days. I always told myself that I would quit when my dentist could tell I've been dipping. Well when I went about 3 months ago he could tell right off the bat and told me I needed to stop ASAP. Instead of stopping I switched sides and am now tearing up the other side of my mouth. Cancer runs rampant in my family so I know that I have a good chance one day of getting it. I've tried quitting before using this chopped up beef jerky that they sell but it still has little chunks that hurt my gums. I'm not a fan of sunflower seeds and don't know what else I can use to satisfy the feeling of having a lip in. Sorry for the long post just wanted to put as much info up as possible.
Glad your here Ryan. Listen to your dentist man, quit now, I remember being 23 and sometimes only using a can a week. If you dont quit youll be at a can/day before you know it. Doesnt really matter, a can a day or a can a week, it is still an addiction, and a deadly one at that.
I dipped for 25 years and thought I could never quit, then I found this site and have now been nicotine free for 185 days. Dump your shit Ryan and join me. I quit with you. I will send you a PM with some info. If you have any questions let me know. I suggest that you get on this site and get all the info you can.
Ryan
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What's up guys and gals my name is Ryan, I'm 23 and I'm from southeastern PA. I stumbled across this website while trying to find a substitute for dip. I've been dipping for almost 5 years now. Started off with Skoal wintergreen for about a year then switched to my current poison Grizzly wintergreen. I used to go through a can in 2-3 days then slowed down to about 1 can every week but I'm back up to a can every 3-4 days. I always told myself that I would quit when my dentist could tell I've been dipping. Well when I went about 3 months ago he could tell right off the bat and told me I needed to stop ASAP. Instead of stopping I switched sides and am now tearing up the other side of my mouth. Cancer runs rampant in my family so I know that I have a good chance one day of getting it. I've tried quitting before using this chopped up beef jerky that they sell but it still has little chunks that hurt my gums. I'm not a fan of sunflower seeds and don't know what else I can use to satisfy the feeling of having a lip in. Sorry for the long post just wanted to put as much info up as possible.
Glad your here Ryan. Listen to your dentist man, quit now, I remember being 23 and sometimes only using a can a week. If you dont quit youll be at a can/day before you know it. Doesnt really matter, a can a day or a can a week, it is still an addiction, and a deadly one at that.
I dipped for 25 years and thought I could never quit, then I found this site and have now been nicotine free for 185 days. Dump your shit Ryan and join me. I quit with you. I will send you a PM with some info. If you have any questions let me know. I suggest that you get on this site and get all the info you can.
Ryan
Man, I wish I had been as smart as you are at 23. Then I wouldn't have spent so many years hiding and sneaking around so no one knew I chewed a can of kodiak a day. I would have spent more time with my family, my friends, my wife. I wouldn't have dared cancer to take a chance every day for 25 years. And I would have an extra $36,000 in my pocket. Hats off to you for seeing the light before you have the same, or a much worse, tale to tell.
Ill send you my info as well. Ryan is a great mentor man. He pulled me through several tough times and nicotine threw its best jabs at both of us - in slightly different ways. The next few days will be a challenge, but you can do it. Post roll first thing in the morning - as soon as you wake up! Then be a man of integrity and honor. You promised yourself and all of us that you won't use nicotine of any sort after you post roll. It has worked for Ryan. It has worked for me. Today is my 193rd quit day.
Welcome aboard and happy July 4th. Proud to be quit w you today.
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What's up guys and gals my name is Ryan, I'm 23 and I'm from southeastern PA. I stumbled across this website while trying to find a substitute for dip. I've been dipping for almost 5 years now. Started off with Skoal wintergreen for about a year then switched to my current poison Grizzly wintergreen. I used to go through a can in 2-3 days then slowed down to about 1 can every week but I'm back up to a can every 3-4 days. I always told myself that I would quit when my dentist could tell I've been dipping. Well when I went about 3 months ago he could tell right off the bat and told me I needed to stop ASAP. Instead of stopping I switched sides and am now tearing up the other side of my mouth. Cancer runs rampant in my family so I know that I have a good chance one day of getting it. I've tried quitting before using this chopped up beef jerky that they sell but it still has little chunks that hurt my gums. I'm not a fan of sunflower seeds and don't know what else I can use to satisfy the feeling of having a lip in. Sorry for the long post just wanted to put as much info up as possible.
Glad your here Ryan. Listen to your dentist man, quit now, I remember being 23 and sometimes only using a can a week. If you dont quit youll be at a can/day before you know it. Doesnt really matter, a can a day or a can a week, it is still an addiction, and a deadly one at that.
I dipped for 25 years and thought I could never quit, then I found this site and have now been nicotine free for 185 days. Dump your shit Ryan and join me. I quit with you. I will send you a PM with some info. If you have any questions let me know. I suggest that you get on this site and get all the info you can.
Ryan
Man, I wish I had been as smart as you are at 23. Then I wouldn't have spent so many years hiding and sneaking around so no one knew I chewed a can of kodiak a day. I would have spent more time with my family, my friends, my wife. I wouldn't have dared cancer to take a chance every day for 25 years. And I would have an extra $36,000 in my pocket. Hats off to you for seeing the light before you have the same, or a much worse, tale to tell.
Ill send you my info as well. Ryan is a great mentor man. He pulled me through several tough times and nicotine threw its best jabs at both of us - in slightly different ways. The next few days will be a challenge, but you can do it. Post roll first thing in the morning - as soon as you wake up! Then be a man of integrity and honor. You promised yourself and all of us that you won't use nicotine of any sort after you post roll. It has worked for Ryan. It has worked for me. Today is my 193rd quit day.
Welcome aboard and happy July 4th. Proud to be quit w you today.
It's funny how all of us with this addiction are the same. One can a week. Then, one can every 3 days. Then one can a day. After time, we try the can a week thing, and only make it two days. I can't tell you how many times I would take it down to 1 can every 2 days and thought I was accomplishing something. This went on for 25 plus years,, 25 I say!!!!!
You've been at this game for such a short time, believe me if you don't stick with this quit it will be 25 before you know it.
Those two guys right there ^^^^,, you might want to get those numbers and keep them close. They knows how and what it takes to quit. Quit with you
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What's up guys and gals my name is Ryan, I'm 23 and I'm from southeastern PA. I stumbled across this website while trying to find a substitute for dip. I've been dipping for almost 5 years now. Started off with Skoal wintergreen for about a year then switched to my current poison Grizzly wintergreen. I used to go through a can in 2-3 days then slowed down to about 1 can every week but I'm back up to a can every 3-4 days. I always told myself that I would quit when my dentist could tell I've been dipping. Well when I went about 3 months ago he could tell right off the bat and told me I needed to stop ASAP. Instead of stopping I switched sides and am now tearing up the other side of my mouth. Cancer runs rampant in my family so I know that I have a good chance one day of getting it. I've tried quitting before using this chopped up beef jerky that they sell but it still has little chunks that hurt my gums. I'm not a fan of sunflower seeds and don't know what else I can use to satisfy the feeling of having a lip in. Sorry for the long post just wanted to put as much info up as possible.
Glad your here Ryan. Listen to your dentist man, quit now, I remember being 23 and sometimes only using a can a week. If you dont quit youll be at a can/day before you know it. Doesnt really matter, a can a day or a can a week, it is still an addiction, and a deadly one at that.
I dipped for 25 years and thought I could never quit, then I found this site and have now been nicotine free for 185 days. Dump your shit Ryan and join me. I quit with you. I will send you a PM with some info. If you have any questions let me know. I suggest that you get on this site and get all the info you can.
Ryan
Man, I wish I had been as smart as you are at 23. Then I wouldn't have spent so many years hiding and sneaking around so no one knew I chewed a can of kodiak a day. I would have spent more time with my family, my friends, my wife. I wouldn't have dared cancer to take a chance every day for 25 years. And I would have an extra $36,000 in my pocket. Hats off to you for seeing the light before you have the same, or a much worse, tale to tell.
Ill send you my info as well. Ryan is a great mentor man. He pulled me through several tough times and nicotine threw its best jabs at both of us - in slightly different ways. The next few days will be a challenge, but you can do it. Post roll first thing in the morning - as soon as you wake up! Then be a man of integrity and honor. You promised yourself and all of us that you won't use nicotine of any sort after you post roll. It has worked for Ryan. It has worked for me. Today is my 193rd quit day.
Welcome aboard and happy July 4th. Proud to be quit w you today.
It's funny how all of us with this addiction are the same. One can a week. Then, one can every 3 days. Then one can a day. After time, we try the can a week thing, and only make it two days. I can't tell you how many times I would take it down to 1 can every 2 days and thought I was accomplishing something. This went on for 25 plus years,, 25 I say!!!!!
You've been at this game for such a short time, believe me if you don't stick with this quit it will be 25 before you know it.
Those two guys right there ^^^^,, you might want to get those numbers and keep them close. They knows how and what it takes to quit. Quit with you
23 years old? Throw that shit to the road dog....Quitting dip will change your life.. or maybe save it... I wish to god I had quit at your age.. I could've retired 10 years earlier with all that money blown.. I'm actually lucky to be alive.. Glad to see your here.. remember this isn't a game.. Post daily, and it will set you free.... Oh ya almost forgot.. buy some gum.. I buy a 24 pack of three different flavors.. and on occasion I reward myself with sum bubbleyum... like eating raw sugar lol...
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Hi Ryan. I recommend Smokey Mountain Wintergreen. It's fake dip made from corn silk, I think. Anyway, it costs the same as Grizzly but it won't kill you. I was a Grizzly Wintergreen man as well and I think this is the easiest transition product.
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Ryan, have you posted roll? By far the most important part of this website is the daily roll call. It keeps you accountable to all of the members, and to yourself. If you need help figuring it out let us know. You are in October 2013.....
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Where are you killthegrizzlybear???? I haven't seem you post roll. This is the time to quit man and this is for damn sure the place. So you have the how when where and what pull the damn trigger and join our brotherhood by posting roll. We will quit with you.
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What's up guys and gals my name is Ryan, I'm 23 and I'm from southeastern PA. I stumbled across this website while trying to find a substitute for dip. I've been dipping for almost 5 years now. Started off with Skoal wintergreen for about a year then switched to my current poison Grizzly wintergreen. I used to go through a can in 2-3 days then slowed down to about 1 can every week but I'm back up to a can every 3-4 days. I always told myself that I would quit when my dentist could tell I've been dipping. Well when I went about 3 months ago he could tell right off the bat and told me I needed to stop ASAP. Instead of stopping I switched sides and am now tearing up the other side of my mouth. Cancer runs rampant in my family so I know that I have a good chance one day of getting it. I've tried quitting before using this chopped up beef jerky that they sell but it still has little chunks that hurt my gums. I'm not a fan of sunflower seeds and don't know what else I can use to satisfy the feeling of having a lip in. Sorry for the long post just wanted to put as much info up as possible.
Another dumb ass that isn't as ready to quit as he thought. Guess he'll wait til his odds of cancer increase more. Odds increase daily! I hate the power nicotine addiction has!
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What's up guys and gals my name is Ryan, I'm 23 and I'm from southeastern PA. I stumbled across this website while trying to find a substitute for dip. I've been dipping for almost 5 years now. Started off with Skoal wintergreen for about a year then switched to my current poison Grizzly wintergreen. I used to go through a can in 2-3 days then slowed down to about 1 can every week but I'm back up to a can every 3-4 days. I always told myself that I would quit when my dentist could tell I've been dipping. Well when I went about 3 months ago he could tell right off the bat and told me I needed to stop ASAP. Instead of stopping I switched sides and am now tearing up the other side of my mouth. Cancer runs rampant in my family so I know that I have a good chance one day of getting it. I've tried quitting before using this chopped up beef jerky that they sell but it still has little chunks that hurt my gums. I'm not a fan of sunflower seeds and don't know what else I can use to satisfy the feeling of having a lip in. Sorry for the long post just wanted to put as much info up as possible.
Another dumb ass that isn't as ready to quit as he thought. Guess he'll wait til his odds of cancer increase more. Odds increase daily! I hate the power nicotine addiction has!
Dammit, I must be bad luck to new quitters. I am done with this shit. I have reached out to at least 10 new quitters in the last month. Not a single one of them have turned into solid roll posters. I had to quit sending out my group text because I had so many damn people telling me not to text them anymore. "I am quitting my own way", "I dont need the site" etc.
Spent a ton of time on 2 guys from May, neither reached HOF. I dont know why I bother. I guess it is because so many people spent so much time with me when I needed it.
Oh well. Take what you need and leave the rest I guess? Frustrating.
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What's up guys and gals my name is Ryan, I'm 23 and I'm from southeastern PA. I stumbled across this website while trying to find a substitute for dip. I've been dipping for almost 5 years now. Started off with Skoal wintergreen for about a year then switched to my current poison Grizzly wintergreen. I used to go through a can in 2-3 days then slowed down to about 1 can every week but I'm back up to a can every 3-4 days. I always told myself that I would quit when my dentist could tell I've been dipping. Well when I went about 3 months ago he could tell right off the bat and told me I needed to stop ASAP. Instead of stopping I switched sides and am now tearing up the other side of my mouth. Cancer runs rampant in my family so I know that I have a good chance one day of getting it. I've tried quitting before using this chopped up beef jerky that they sell but it still has little chunks that hurt my gums. I'm not a fan of sunflower seeds and don't know what else I can use to satisfy the feeling of having a lip in. Sorry for the long post just wanted to put as much info up as possible.
Another dumb ass that isn't as ready to quit as he thought. Guess he'll wait til his odds of cancer increase more. Odds increase daily! I hate the power nicotine addiction has!
Dammit, I must be bad luck to new quitters. I am done with this shit. I have reached out to at least 10 new quitters in the last month. Not a single one of them have turned into solid roll posters. I had to quit sending out my group text because I had so many damn people telling me not to text them anymore. "I am quitting my own way", "I dont need the site" etc.
Spent a ton of time on 2 guys from May, neither reached HOF. I dont know why I bother. I guess it is because so many people spent so much time with me when I needed it.
Oh well. Take what you need and leave the rest I guess? Frustrating.
Never stop! Some of us actually get some encouragement out of reading your words! Some others are just fools!
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What's up guys and gals my name is Ryan, I'm 23 and I'm from southeastern PA. I stumbled across this website while trying to find a substitute for dip. I've been dipping for almost 5 years now. Started off with Skoal wintergreen for about a year then switched to my current poison Grizzly wintergreen. I used to go through a can in 2-3 days then slowed down to about 1 can every week but I'm back up to a can every 3-4 days. I always told myself that I would quit when my dentist could tell I've been dipping. Well when I went about 3 months ago he could tell right off the bat and told me I needed to stop ASAP. Instead of stopping I switched sides and am now tearing up the other side of my mouth. Cancer runs rampant in my family so I know that I have a good chance one day of getting it. I've tried quitting before using this chopped up beef jerky that they sell but it still has little chunks that hurt my gums. I'm not a fan of sunflower seeds and don't know what else I can use to satisfy the feeling of having a lip in. Sorry for the long post just wanted to put as much info up as possible.
Another dumb ass that isn't as ready to quit as he thought. Guess he'll wait til his odds of cancer increase more. Odds increase daily! I hate the power nicotine addiction has!
Dammit, I must be bad luck to new quitters. I am done with this shit. I have reached out to at least 10 new quitters in the last month. Not a single one of them have turned into solid roll posters. I had to quit sending out my group text because I had so many damn people telling me not to text them anymore. "I am quitting my own way", "I dont need the site" etc.
Spent a ton of time on 2 guys from May, neither reached HOF. I dont know why I bother. I guess it is because so many people spent so much time with me when I needed it.
Oh well. Take what you need and leave the rest I guess? Frustrating.
I agree with Jake. A lot of people who are still trying to get their heads around the fact that that they/we are addicts and slaves to nicotine read these threads.
While I agree with you 100% about the drive by quitters, don't underestimate the future and current quitters you're helping by reaching out.
I personally find it therapeutic to read new intro threads even though I don't often respond (I'm using my phone most of the time).
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What's up guys and gals my name is Ryan, I'm 23 and I'm from southeastern PA. I stumbled across this website while trying to find a substitute for dip. I've been dipping for almost 5 years now. Started off with Skoal wintergreen for about a year then switched to my current poison Grizzly wintergreen. I used to go through a can in 2-3 days then slowed down to about 1 can every week but I'm back up to a can every 3-4 days. I always told myself that I would quit when my dentist could tell I've been dipping. Well when I went about 3 months ago he could tell right off the bat and told me I needed to stop ASAP. Instead of stopping I switched sides and am now tearing up the other side of my mouth. Cancer runs rampant in my family so I know that I have a good chance one day of getting it. I've tried quitting before using this chopped up beef jerky that they sell but it still has little chunks that hurt my gums. I'm not a fan of sunflower seeds and don't know what else I can use to satisfy the feeling of having a lip in. Sorry for the long post just wanted to put as much info up as possible.
Another dumb ass that isn't as ready to quit as he thought. Guess he'll wait til his odds of cancer increase more. Odds increase daily! I hate the power nicotine addiction has!
Dammit, I must be bad luck to new quitters. I am done with this shit. I have reached out to at least 10 new quitters in the last month. Not a single one of them have turned into solid roll posters. I had to quit sending out my group text because I had so many damn people telling me not to text them anymore. "I am quitting my own way", "I dont need the site" etc.
Spent a ton of time on 2 guys from May, neither reached HOF. I dont know why I bother. I guess it is because so many people spent so much time with me when I needed it.
Oh well. Take what you need and leave the rest I guess? Frustrating.
I agree with Jake. A lot of people who are still trying to get their heads around the fact that that they/we are addicts and slaves to nicotine read these threads.
While I agree with you 100% about the drive by quitters, don't underestimate the future and current quitters you're helping by reaching out.
I personally find it therapeutic to read new intro threads even though I don't often respond (I'm using my phone most of the time).
Good points Jake and Jungleland. I just hung up with worktowin and he feels the same way. I guess we just post what we post and it helps who it helps. All you can do is plant a seed, the ground may or may not be fertile. Some folks are too "tinheaded", (thanks srans) to hear what they need to hear or see what they need to see. The outcome doesnt render the effort any less worthwhile.
Thanks guys. It never ceases to amaze how other peoples perspectives can help someone out. Peace.
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What's up guys and gals my name is Ryan, I'm 23 and I'm from southeastern PA. I stumbled across this website while trying to find a substitute for dip. I've been dipping for almost 5 years now. Started off with Skoal wintergreen for about a year then switched to my current poison Grizzly wintergreen. I used to go through a can in 2-3 days then slowed down to about 1 can every week but I'm back up to a can every 3-4 days. I always told myself that I would quit when my dentist could tell I've been dipping. Well when I went about 3 months ago he could tell right off the bat and told me I needed to stop ASAP. Instead of stopping I switched sides and am now tearing up the other side of my mouth. Cancer runs rampant in my family so I know that I have a good chance one day of getting it. I've tried quitting before using this chopped up beef jerky that they sell but it still has little chunks that hurt my gums. I'm not a fan of sunflower seeds and don't know what else I can use to satisfy the feeling of having a lip in. Sorry for the long post just wanted to put as much info up as possible.
Another dumb ass that isn't as ready to quit as he thought. Guess he'll wait til his odds of cancer increase more. Odds increase daily! I hate the power nicotine addiction has!
Dammit, I must be bad luck to new quitters. I am done with this shit. I have reached out to at least 10 new quitters in the last month. Not a single one of them have turned into solid roll posters. I had to quit sending out my group text because I had so many damn people telling me not to text them anymore. "I am quitting my own way", "I dont need the site" etc.
Spent a ton of time on 2 guys from May, neither reached HOF. I dont know why I bother. I guess it is because so many people spent so much time with me when I needed it.
Oh well. Take what you need and leave the rest I guess? Frustrating.
I can hang I sent u a pm. We can't save everyone they gotta b at rock bottom n want it for the right reasons uncle Fred aunt sally whoever is not the rite reason for u is the rite reason. Don't give up Ryan just save one!
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What's up guys and gals my name is Ryan, I'm 23 and I'm from southeastern PA. I stumbled across this website while trying to find a substitute for dip. I've been dipping for almost 5 years now. Started off with Skoal wintergreen for about a year then switched to my current poison Grizzly wintergreen. I used to go through a can in 2-3 days then slowed down to about 1 can every week but I'm back up to a can every 3-4 days. I always told myself that I would quit when my dentist could tell I've been dipping. Well when I went about 3 months ago he could tell right off the bat and told me I needed to stop ASAP. Instead of stopping I switched sides and am now tearing up the other side of my mouth. Cancer runs rampant in my family so I know that I have a good chance one day of getting it. I've tried quitting before using this chopped up beef jerky that they sell but it still has little chunks that hurt my gums. I'm not a fan of sunflower seeds and don't know what else I can use to satisfy the feeling of having a lip in. Sorry for the long post just wanted to put as much info up as possible.
Another dumb ass that isn't as ready to quit as he thought. Guess he'll wait til his odds of cancer increase more. Odds increase daily! I hate the power nicotine addiction has!
Dammit, I must be bad luck to new quitters. I am done with this shit. I have reached out to at least 10 new quitters in the last month. Not a single one of them have turned into solid roll posters. I had to quit sending out my group text because I had so many damn people telling me not to text them anymore. "I am quitting my own way", "I dont need the site" etc.
Spent a ton of time on 2 guys from May, neither reached HOF. I dont know why I bother. I guess it is because so many people spent so much time with me when I needed it.
Oh well. Take what you need and leave the rest I guess? Frustrating.
I agree with Jake. A lot of people who are still trying to get their heads around the fact that that they/we are addicts and slaves to nicotine read these threads.
While I agree with you 100% about the drive by quitters, don't underestimate the future and current quitters you're helping by reaching out.
I personally find it therapeutic to read new intro threads even though I don't often respond (I'm using my phone most of the time).
Good points Jake and Jungleland. I just hung up with worktowin and he feels the same way. I guess we just post what we post and it helps who it helps. All you can do is plant a seed, the ground may or may not be fertile. Some folks are too "tinheaded", (thanks srans) to hear what they need to hear or see what they need to see. The outcome doesnt render the effort any less worthwhile.
Thanks guys. It never ceases to amaze how other peoples perspectives can help someone out. Peace.
I found this site about 2 weeks in to my quit I think. I don't really know since I was in that damn crazy fog for a month, but anyway let's say it was 2 weeks. I posted an intro and one of the first people to reach out was waketech - a bad ass from Utah who quit on Sept 11 2012. He sort of explained things to me and then said something to the effect of... Ill quit with you, but I don't need any weak people in my quit. I think you can still read his post in my intro. Well, that pissed me off! Me, weak? Come on! Oh, wait... I ninja chewed most of those 9,000 cans of kodiak I spent 36k on over 25 years. Maybe I was weak? So I responded to waketech, and itsgottohappen, and sage, and ob, and erussell, and flguy42, and traumagnet, and jake, and kc guy, and jayhawk, and davemo, and....
You get the idea. Over time I felt more secure and less weak. And I didn't feel like I was in this alone. And reaching out to the new guys - helps me too. That August team gets me lit up and I really appreciate them. If someone wants to do this on their own, fine. I was too weak to do it. Maybe they are stronger than me? Good luck.
By the way, happy 300 to waketech today. His challenge to me is a big part of the reason I am still here. We are on this train together at ktc. Or you are alone. Ill stay on this train with Ryan.
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What's up guys and gals my name is Ryan, I'm 23 and I'm from southeastern PA. I stumbled across this website while trying to find a substitute for dip. I've been dipping for almost 5 years now. Started off with Skoal wintergreen for about a year then switched to my current poison Grizzly wintergreen. I used to go through a can in 2-3 days then slowed down to about 1 can every week but I'm back up to a can every 3-4 days. I always told myself that I would quit when my dentist could tell I've been dipping. Well when I went about 3 months ago he could tell right off the bat and told me I needed to stop ASAP. Instead of stopping I switched sides and am now tearing up the other side of my mouth. Cancer runs rampant in my family so I know that I have a good chance one day of getting it. I've tried quitting before using this chopped up beef jerky that they sell but it still has little chunks that hurt my gums. I'm not a fan of sunflower seeds and don't know what else I can use to satisfy the feeling of having a lip in. Sorry for the long post just wanted to put as much info up as possible.
Another dumb ass that isn't as ready to quit as he thought. Guess he'll wait til his odds of cancer increase more. Odds increase daily! I hate the power nicotine addiction has!
Dammit, I must be bad luck to new quitters. I am done with this shit. I have reached out to at least 10 new quitters in the last month. Not a single one of them have turned into solid roll posters. I had to quit sending out my group text because I had so many damn people telling me not to text them anymore. "I am quitting my own way", "I dont need the site" etc.
Spent a ton of time on 2 guys from May, neither reached HOF. I dont know why I bother. I guess it is because so many people spent so much time with me when I needed it.
Oh well. Take what you need and leave the rest I guess? Frustrating.
I agree with Jake. A lot of people who are still trying to get their heads around the fact that that they/we are addicts and slaves to nicotine read these threads.
While I agree with you 100% about the drive by quitters, don't underestimate the future and current quitters you're helping by reaching out.
I personally find it therapeutic to read new intro threads even though I don't often respond (I'm using my phone most of the time).
Good points Jake and Jungleland. I just hung up with worktowin and he feels the same way. I guess we just post what we post and it helps who it helps. All you can do is plant a seed, the ground may or may not be fertile. Some folks are too "tinheaded", (thanks srans) to hear what they need to hear or see what they need to see. The outcome doesnt render the effort any less worthwhile.
Thanks guys. It never ceases to amaze how other peoples perspectives can help someone out. Peace.
I found this site about 2 weeks in to my quit I think. I don't really know since I was in that damn crazy fog for a month, but anyway let's say it was 2 weeks. I posted an intro and one of the first people to reach out was waketech - a bad ass from Utah who quit on Sept 11 2012. He sort of explained things to me and then said something to the effect of... Ill quit with you, but I don't need any weak people in my quit. I think you can still read his post in my intro. Well, that pissed me off! Me, weak? Come on! Oh, wait... I ninja chewed most of those 9,000 cans of kodiak I spent 36k on over 25 years. Maybe I was weak? So I responded to waketech, and itsgottohappen, and sage, and ob, and erussell, and flguy42, and traumagnet, and jake, and kc guy, and jayhawk, and davemo, and....
You get the idea. Over time I felt more secure and less weak. And I didn't feel like I was in this alone. And reaching out to the new guys - helps me too. That August team gets me lit up and I really appreciate them. If someone wants to do this on their own, fine. I was too weak to do it. Maybe they are stronger than me? Good luck.
By the way, happy 300 to waketech today. His challenge to me is a big part of the reason I am still here. We are on this train together at ktc. Or you are alone. Ill stay on this train with Ryan.
Uhhhh... If everyone threw in the towel and stopped reaching out to newbies like me then I would not be at Day 15. Keep on keeping on. Maybe it don't stick for all but people are reading what u say and it fuckin helps. Glad to be quit with u all today.
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What's up guys and gals my name is Ryan, I'm 23 and I'm from southeastern PA. I stumbled across this website while trying to find a substitute for dip. I've been dipping for almost 5 years now. Started off with Skoal wintergreen for about a year then switched to my current poison Grizzly wintergreen. I used to go through a can in 2-3 days then slowed down to about 1 can every week but I'm back up to a can every 3-4 days. I always told myself that I would quit when my dentist could tell I've been dipping. Well when I went about 3 months ago he could tell right off the bat and told me I needed to stop ASAP. Instead of stopping I switched sides and am now tearing up the other side of my mouth. Cancer runs rampant in my family so I know that I have a good chance one day of getting it. I've tried quitting before using this chopped up beef jerky that they sell but it still has little chunks that hurt my gums. I'm not a fan of sunflower seeds and don't know what else I can use to satisfy the feeling of having a lip in. Sorry for the long post just wanted to put as much info up as possible.
Another dumb ass that isn't as ready to quit as he thought. Guess he'll wait til his odds of cancer increase more. Odds increase daily! I hate the power nicotine addiction has!
Dammit, I must be bad luck to new quitters. I am done with this shit. I have reached out to at least 10 new quitters in the last month. Not a single one of them have turned into solid roll posters. I had to quit sending out my group text because I had so many damn people telling me not to text them anymore. "I am quitting my own way", "I dont need the site" etc.
Spent a ton of time on 2 guys from May, neither reached HOF. I dont know why I bother. I guess it is because so many people spent so much time with me when I needed it.
Oh well. Take what you need and leave the rest I guess? Frustrating.
I agree with Jake. A lot of people who are still trying to get their heads around the fact that that they/we are addicts and slaves to nicotine read these threads.
While I agree with you 100% about the drive by quitters, don't underestimate the future and current quitters you're helping by reaching out.
I personally find it therapeutic to read new intro threads even though I don't often respond (I'm using my phone most of the time).
Good points Jake and Jungleland. I just hung up with worktowin and he feels the same way. I guess we just post what we post and it helps who it helps. All you can do is plant a seed, the ground may or may not be fertile. Some folks are too "tinheaded", (thanks srans) to hear what they need to hear or see what they need to see. The outcome doesnt render the effort any less worthwhile.
Thanks guys. It never ceases to amaze how other peoples perspectives can help someone out. Peace.
I found this site about 2 weeks in to my quit I think. I don't really know since I was in that damn crazy fog for a month, but anyway let's say it was 2 weeks. I posted an intro and one of the first people to reach out was waketech - a bad ass from Utah who quit on Sept 11 2012. He sort of explained things to me and then said something to the effect of... Ill quit with you, but I don't need any weak people in my quit. I think you can still read his post in my intro. Well, that pissed me off! Me, weak? Come on! Oh, wait... I ninja chewed most of those 9,000 cans of kodiak I spent 36k on over 25 years. Maybe I was weak? So I responded to waketech, and itsgottohappen, and sage, and ob, and erussell, and flguy42, and traumagnet, and jake, and kc guy, and jayhawk, and davemo, and....
You get the idea. Over time I felt more secure and less weak. And I didn't feel like I was in this alone. And reaching out to the new guys - helps me too. That August team gets me lit up and I really appreciate them. If someone wants to do this on their own, fine. I was too weak to do it. Maybe they are stronger than me? Good luck.
By the way, happy 300 to waketech today. His challenge to me is a big part of the reason I am still here. We are on this train together at ktc. Or you are alone. Ill stay on this train with Ryan.
Uhhhh... If everyone threw in the towel and stopped reaching out to newbies like me then I would not be at Day 15. Keep on keeping on. Maybe it don't stick for all but people are reading what u say and it fuckin helps. Glad to be quit with u all today.
Itsgottohqppen, Derk and the others are correct, Srans said something to me not to long ago "you don't have to post on every newbies intro they all read each others intros". I read most of your post and have benefited from your words many times bro! Indirectly your post have helped many, I'm one of them!
Story;
A guy walks up to a little girl on the beach throwing stranded starfish back into the ocean.
Guy; why are you throwing all those starfish back in?
Little girl; if I don't they will die!
Guy; There are thousands your efforts wont even make a difference.
Little girl; raises her hand with a star fish in it and profoundly says to the guy "I bet it matters to this one"
Your post have mattered to me brother!
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What's up guys and gals my name is Ryan, I'm 23 and I'm from southeastern PA. I stumbled across this website while trying to find a substitute for dip. I've been dipping for almost 5 years now. Started off with Skoal wintergreen for about a year then switched to my current poison Grizzly wintergreen. I used to go through a can in 2-3 days then slowed down to about 1 can every week but I'm back up to a can every 3-4 days. I always told myself that I would quit when my dentist could tell I've been dipping. Well when I went about 3 months ago he could tell right off the bat and told me I needed to stop ASAP. Instead of stopping I switched sides and am now tearing up the other side of my mouth. Cancer runs rampant in my family so I know that I have a good chance one day of getting it. I've tried quitting before using this chopped up beef jerky that they sell but it still has little chunks that hurt my gums. I'm not a fan of sunflower seeds and don't know what else I can use to satisfy the feeling of having a lip in. Sorry for the long post just wanted to put as much info up as possible.
Another dumb ass that isn't as ready to quit as he thought. Guess he'll wait til his odds of cancer increase more. Odds increase daily! I hate the power nicotine addiction has!
Dammit, I must be bad luck to new quitters. I am done with this shit. I have reached out to at least 10 new quitters in the last month. Not a single one of them have turned into solid roll posters. I had to quit sending out my group text because I had so many damn people telling me not to text them anymore. "I am quitting my own way", "I dont need the site" etc.
Spent a ton of time on 2 guys from May, neither reached HOF. I dont know why I bother. I guess it is because so many people spent so much time with me when I needed it.
Oh well. Take what you need and leave the rest I guess? Frustrating.
I agree with Jake. A lot of people who are still trying to get their heads around the fact that that they/we are addicts and slaves to nicotine read these threads.
While I agree with you 100% about the drive by quitters, don't underestimate the future and current quitters you're helping by reaching out.
I personally find it therapeutic to read new intro threads even though I don't often respond (I'm using my phone most of the time).
Good points Jake and Jungleland. I just hung up with worktowin and he feels the same way. I guess we just post what we post and it helps who it helps. All you can do is plant a seed, the ground may or may not be fertile. Some folks are too "tinheaded", (thanks srans) to hear what they need to hear or see what they need to see. The outcome doesnt render the effort any less worthwhile.
Thanks guys. It never ceases to amaze how other peoples perspectives can help someone out. Peace.
I found this site about 2 weeks in to my quit I think. I don't really know since I was in that damn crazy fog for a month, but anyway let's say it was 2 weeks. I posted an intro and one of the first people to reach out was waketech - a bad ass from Utah who quit on Sept 11 2012. He sort of explained things to me and then said something to the effect of... Ill quit with you, but I don't need any weak people in my quit. I think you can still read his post in my intro. Well, that pissed me off! Me, weak? Come on! Oh, wait... I ninja chewed most of those 9,000 cans of kodiak I spent 36k on over 25 years. Maybe I was weak? So I responded to waketech, and itsgottohappen, and sage, and ob, and erussell, and flguy42, and traumagnet, and jake, and kc guy, and jayhawk, and davemo, and....
You get the idea. Over time I felt more secure and less weak. And I didn't feel like I was in this alone. And reaching out to the new guys - helps me too. That August team gets me lit up and I really appreciate them. If someone wants to do this on their own, fine. I was too weak to do it. Maybe they are stronger than me? Good luck.
By the way, happy 300 to waketech today. His challenge to me is a big part of the reason I am still here. We are on this train together at ktc. Or you are alone. Ill stay on this train with Ryan.
Uhhhh... If everyone threw in the towel and stopped reaching out to newbies like me then I would not be at Day 15. Keep on keeping on. Maybe it don't stick for all but people are reading what u say and it fuckin helps. Glad to be quit with u all today.
Itsgottohqppen, Derk and the others are correct, Srans said something to me not to long ago "you don't have to post on every newbies intro they all read each others intros". I read most of your post and have benefited from your words many times bro! Indirectly your post have helped many, I'm one of them!
Story;
A guy walks up to a little girl on the beach throwing stranded starfish back into the ocean.
Guy; why are you throwing all those starfish back in?
Little girl; if I don't they will die!
Guy; There are thousands your efforts wont even make a difference.
Little girl; raises her hand with a star fish in it and profoundly says to the guy "I bet it matters to this one"
Your post have mattered to me brother!
I'm only 15 days in, but I think my experience with KTC will help...
At first, I was a casual lurker and wasn't serious about quitting. This lasted for a couple of months.
Then in June I signed up after "stopping" in early May and cheating many times. I figured out how to post roll, posted a couple of rolls, and then I caved.
Here's where I think the disconnect is: after caving, I came back to the site and owned up to it. I re-posted my second Day 2 and admitted that I caved in my Introduction. I didn't know it then, but I was not committed to my quit at this point. I didn't "get it" until after I caved.
What I didn't know was that I was about to get my ass virtually kicked by some pissed off quitters. Yeah, when I first joined I had some people reach out and I had received a standard Welcome PM, but it seemed very generic. It was only after people wrote on my Intro about their experiences and struggles that I was like, "holy shit, that's ME". Quitters came out of the woodwork to A) beat on me for caving and B) share their own experiences. Then I started reading others' intros... It was only THEN that it clicked for me: accountability, posting roll, NAFAR, brotherhood, etc.
How often does that happen? A new KTC quitter caves and then says, "F it. I already caved, what's the point?" and they never come back to KTC. But maybe they, like me, don't "get it" until someone gets in their face a little.
My only suggestion would be that when a new quitter joins, instead of sending a "I'm here for ya, man" type message, include a story about yourself. How much you quitters and I have in common (ninja dipping, just one more, spousal guilt, kids, etc.) really made an impact on me. I used to try and explain how my brain would f'n TRICK me into rationalizing one more, but no one ever got it. You all do.
I don't need to tell you that quitting is hard to do. Not a single one of you quit on your first attempt, though, not outside of KTC. I hope this helps. I guess what I'm trying to say is that it can take a little while to understand the value of this community. During that little while, people are going to cave. We've got to keep the cavers coming back, to a point. I know it's a fine line between telling a new person that they can keep coming back if they cave and drawing a line in the sand re: NAFAR...
Like I said, I'm only 15 days quit so take this all with a grain of salt. But for whatever reason, I came back after my caving and only then did I 1) understand 2) commit.
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This dude is a chode. 23 year old bad ass who got his tail WHIPPED by a can of posion weeds.
Talk is cheap and this dude's a 2 cent penis hole.
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This dude is a chode. 23 year old bad ass who got his tail WHIPPED by a can of posion weeds.
Talk is cheap and this dude's a 2 cent penis hole.
I don't disagree with you. I doubt people often come to this site with 100% conviction to quit, though. KTC helped me "find" my quit. And again, fully acknowledging that I'm only 15 days in with years to go.
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What's up guys and gals my name is Ryan, I'm 23 and I'm from southeastern PA. I stumbled across this website while trying to find a substitute for dip. I've been dipping for almost 5 years now. Started off with Skoal wintergreen for about a year then switched to my current poison Grizzly wintergreen. I used to go through a can in 2-3 days then slowed down to about 1 can every week but I'm back up to a can every 3-4 days. I always told myself that I would quit when my dentist could tell I've been dipping. Well when I went about 3 months ago he could tell right off the bat and told me I needed to stop ASAP. Instead of stopping I switched sides and am now tearing up the other side of my mouth. Cancer runs rampant in my family so I know that I have a good chance one day of getting it. I've tried quitting before using this chopped up beef jerky that they sell but it still has little chunks that hurt my gums. I'm not a fan of sunflower seeds and don't know what else I can use to satisfy the feeling of having a lip in. Sorry for the long post just wanted to put as much info up as possible.
Another dumb ass that isn't as ready to quit as he thought. Guess he'll wait til his odds of cancer increase more. Odds increase daily! I hate the power nicotine addiction has!
Dammit, I must be bad luck to new quitters. I am done with this shit. I have reached out to at least 10 new quitters in the last month. Not a single one of them have turned into solid roll posters. I had to quit sending out my group text because I had so many damn people telling me not to text them anymore. "I am quitting my own way", "I dont need the site" etc.
Spent a ton of time on 2 guys from May, neither reached HOF. I dont know why I bother. I guess it is because so many people spent so much time with me when I needed it.
Oh well. Take what you need and leave the rest I guess? Frustrating.
I agree with Jake. A lot of people who are still trying to get their heads around the fact that that they/we are addicts and slaves to nicotine read these threads.
While I agree with you 100% about the drive by quitters, don't underestimate the future and current quitters you're helping by reaching out.
I personally find it therapeutic to read new intro threads even though I don't often respond (I'm using my phone most of the time).
Good points Jake and Jungleland. I just hung up with worktowin and he feels the same way. I guess we just post what we post and it helps who it helps. All you can do is plant a seed, the ground may or may not be fertile. Some folks are too "tinheaded", (thanks srans) to hear what they need to hear or see what they need to see. The outcome doesnt render the effort any less worthwhile.
Thanks guys. It never ceases to amaze how other peoples perspectives can help someone out. Peace.
I found this site about 2 weeks in to my quit I think. I don't really know since I was in that damn crazy fog for a month, but anyway let's say it was 2 weeks. I posted an intro and one of the first people to reach out was waketech - a bad ass from Utah who quit on Sept 11 2012. He sort of explained things to me and then said something to the effect of... Ill quit with you, but I don't need any weak people in my quit. I think you can still read his post in my intro. Well, that pissed me off! Me, weak? Come on! Oh, wait... I ninja chewed most of those 9,000 cans of kodiak I spent 36k on over 25 years. Maybe I was weak? So I responded to waketech, and itsgottohappen, and sage, and ob, and erussell, and flguy42, and traumagnet, and jake, and kc guy, and jayhawk, and davemo, and....
You get the idea. Over time I felt more secure and less weak. And I didn't feel like I was in this alone. And reaching out to the new guys - helps me too. That August team gets me lit up and I really appreciate them. If someone wants to do this on their own, fine. I was too weak to do it. Maybe they are stronger than me? Good luck.
By the way, happy 300 to waketech today. His challenge to me is a big part of the reason I am still here. We are on this train together at ktc. Or you are alone. Ill stay on this train with Ryan.
Uhhhh... If everyone threw in the towel and stopped reaching out to newbies like me then I would not be at Day 15. Keep on keeping on. Maybe it don't stick for all but people are reading what u say and it fuckin helps. Glad to be quit with u all today.
Itsgottohqppen, Derk and the others are correct, Srans said something to me not to long ago "you don't have to post on every newbies intro they all read each others intros". I read most of your post and have benefited from your words many times bro! Indirectly your post have helped many, I'm one of them!
Story;
A guy walks up to a little girl on the beach throwing stranded starfish back into the ocean.
Guy; why are you throwing all those starfish back in?
Little girl; if I don't they will die!
Guy; There are thousands your efforts wont even make a difference.
Little girl; raises her hand with a star fish in it and profoundly says to the guy "I bet it matters to this one"
Your post have mattered to me brother!
I'm only 15 days in, but I think my experience with KTC will help...
At first, I was a casual lurker and wasn't serious about quitting. This lasted for a couple of months.
Then in June I signed up after "stopping" in early May and cheating many times. I figured out how to post roll, posted a couple of rolls, and then I caved.
Here's where I think the disconnect is: after caving, I came back to the site and owned up to it. I re-posted my second Day 2 and admitted that I caved in my Introduction. I didn't know it then, but I was not committed to my quit at this point. I didn't "get it" until after I caved.
What I didn't know was that I was about to get my ass virtually kicked by some pissed off quitters. Yeah, when I first joined I had some people reach out and I had received a standard Welcome PM, but it seemed very generic. It was only after people wrote on my Intro about their experiences and struggles that I was like, "holy shit, that's ME". Quitters came out of the woodwork to A) beat on me for caving and B) share their own experiences. Then I started reading others' intros... It was only THEN that it clicked for me: accountability, posting roll, NAFAR, brotherhood, etc.
How often does that happen? A new KTC quitter caves and then says, "F it. I already caved, what's the point?" and they never come back to KTC. But maybe they, like me, don't "get it" until someone gets in their face a little.
My only suggestion would be that when a new quitter joins, instead of sending a "I'm here for ya, man" type message, include a story about yourself. How much you quitters and I have in common (ninja dipping, just one more, spousal guilt, kids, etc.) really made an impact on me. I used to try and explain how my brain would f'n TRICK me into rationalizing one more, but no one ever got it. You all do.
I don't need to tell you that quitting is hard to do. Not a single one of you quit on your first attempt, though, not outside of KTC. I hope this helps. I guess what I'm trying to say is that it can take a little while to understand the value of this community. During that little while, people are going to cave. We've got to keep the cavers coming back, to a point. I know it's a fine line between telling a new person that they can keep coming back if they cave and drawing a line in the sand re: NAFAR...
Like I said, I'm only 15 days quit so take this all with a grain of salt. But for whatever reason, I came back after my caving and only then did I 1) understand 2) commit.
Great points Minnie. Damn worktowin you hit the nail on the head. This thread just made my day. Hope this Ryan child comes back and decides to man up. I have my doubts though. I know at 23 was fucking invinceable. Addict, ppffff, I can quit any time I want. What I would not give to be in this dude's shoes. Could you even imagine if you had quit at 23? Probably almost no risk of cancer. I know the damage I did cannot be reversed. I have 9.5 years to still wonder if I caused a self inflicted case of oral cancer. I will live with that fear because I was a fool. Dont be a fool Ryan. Get in here and quit with us.
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This dude is a chode. 23 year old bad ass who got his tail WHIPPED by a can of posion weeds.
Talk is cheap and this dude's a 2 cent penis hole.
I don't disagree with you. I doubt people often come to this site with 100% conviction to quit, though. KTC helped me "find" my quit. And again, fully acknowledging that I'm only 15 days in with years to go.
Of course they don't. You will usually find that the younger they are when they come here, the worst success rate they have. And they are very sensitive.
I hope to hell this fella comes back, but odds are hes just a punk ass bitch who found quitting too tough.
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This dude is a chode. 23 year old bad ass who got his tail WHIPPED by a can of posion weeds.
Talk is cheap and this dude's a 2 cent penis hole.
I don't disagree with you. I doubt people often come to this site with 100% conviction to quit, though. KTC helped me "find" my quit. And again, fully acknowledging that I'm only 15 days in with years to go.
Of course they don't. You will usually find that the younger they are when they come here, the worst success rate they have. And they are very sensitive.
I hope to hell this fella comes back, but odds are hes just a punk ass bitch who found quitting too tough.
Great points Minnie. Damn worktowin you hit the nail on the head. This thread just made my day. Hope this Ryan child comes back and decides to man up. I have my doubts though. I know at 23 was fucking invinceable. Addict, ppffff, I can quit any time I want. What I would not give to be in this dude's shoes. Could you even imagine if you had quit at 23? Probably almost no risk of cancer. I know the damage I did cannot be reversed. I have 9.5 years to still wonder if I caused a self inflicted case of oral cancer. I will live with that fear because I was a fool. Dont be a fool Ryan. Get in here and quit with us.
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Hey Its_got2happen, I have been reading this thread bro. Dont get discouraged about reaching out to new quitters. Remember on my intro bro I told you that I read your intro. I read about your struggles. That shit inspired me to stay quit. If you want, go ahead and count me as a guy you helped out. I post roll everyday. I read your intro. I read your posts all the time. Keep posting bro. You help my quit.
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Hey Its_got2happen, I have been reading this thread bro. Dont get discouraged about reaching out to new quitters. Remember on my intro bro I told you that I read your intro. I read about your struggles. That shit inspired me to stay quit. If you want, go ahead and count me as a guy you helped out. I post roll everyday. I read your intro. I read your posts all the time. Keep posting bro. You help my quit.
Thanks KC, and congrats on 2 months this week. Keep killing it.
Ryan