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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: ChewingDoc on September 04, 2014, 05:28:00 PM
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Hi everyone. I am a 29 year old medical doctor who dips. I started dipping a bit in college, every now and again (maybe once or twice a month). I became addicted to skoal in medical school. I did it as a form of stress relief from my school work and then from my job. I have dipped every day for 2.5 years, consuming anywhere from 4-7 tins a week. My teeth are stained yellow, I now have high blood pressure, and I was getting frequent sores in my mouth. I'm quitting for health reasons. I'm happy I found this site, which I had visited a number of times while contemplating quitting. I'm going to need all the support I can get.
Quit day Sep 3, 2014
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Hi everyone. I am a 29 year old medical doctor who dips. I started dipping a bit in college, every now and again (maybe once or twice a month). I became addicted to skoal in medical school. I did it as a form of stress relief from my school work and then from my job. I have dipped every day for 2.5 years, consuming anywhere from 4-7 tins a week. My teeth are stained yellow, I now have high blood pressure, and I was getting frequent sores in my mouth. I'm quitting for health reasons. I'm happy I found this site, which I had visited a number of times while contemplating quitting. I'm going to need all the support I can get.
Quit day Sep 3, 2014
We quit on the same day Doc and I'm happy to walk this bitch down with you.
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ChewingDoc,
Welcome and congratulations on your decision to quit.
Read everything on this site, get over to December HOF 2014 post roll and build a network of support.
The fear is good motivation (motivates me as well) and a good place to start. But when you heal up, and feel better will your quit be as strong?
Check your inbox for a PM, get some gum and candy and fake chew if you need it.
Charles
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I once was a chewing doc, but I quit 137 days ago. Honestly, fear was not a huge factor for me. I just really, really hate being controlled by an addiction. Let me tell you, freedom is wonderful.
If you stick this out, you will learn that the idea that nicotine helps with stress is a lie addicts tell themselves to keep using. When does anyone ever NOT have stress? Plus, withdrawal sucks, even during the 1st hour. So; we tell ourselves, "Now is not a good time to quit...maybe after ______ ." Believe me, after 30 days off chew you will feel WAY better than you EVER do while chewing. Stress or no stress.
Your December quit group will be a great source of support. Get involved, get other's numbers and text each other. Remember how crappy you feel right now and over the next few days. Vow to never go through it again.
The intros are one of many great resources on this site. You will learn much more about nicotine addiction here than you ever did in med school or residency.
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I think it is wonderful that you are going to set the example for your patients. When a patient is told the health risks of being overweight, unhealthy lifestyle, ect. it tends to be less effective when they smell the stench of chew on you. LOL You can do anything you set your mind to do. You control your destiny. The most important thing we do here is post our promise to our quit brothers that we will not use nicotine in any form for today only. We honor our promise for the day. God willing we wake up the next day we repeat the process. I would tell you good luck but we don't believe in luck. We choose to be quit everyday. You can make that choice as well and will have thousands of quitters on this site that have your back. Welcome.
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There are a number of healthcare professionals on this site, ranging from doctors, to pharmacists, to dentists, to nurses, and paramedics and as sick as it sounds, I always find it refreshing when another one of us joins the likes of KTC. I feel like there is an added sense of irony for us, because on paper, you would think we would know better. I'm of the licensed drug dealing profession and knowing the line of work we all contribute to is the perfect breeding ground for nicotine addiction. High stress, long hours, and sometimes mundane work that requires another fixation to occupy the time. Basically medical work is like a sweaty ass, the perfect breeding ground for fungal infection, the same way our lifestyle is a breeding ground for addiction.
The good news my friend, all of that is a complete load of bullshit. One thing I've learned is that no matter the walk of life we come from, nicotine and addiction doesn't give a fuck. We're all perfect breeding grounds for addiction. So all that stress and addict beliefs that you need dip to get through your day is a load of shit. I have been quit for almost 9 months and every aspect of my life is better and more fulfilling now that I have realized I can succeed in all those facets without a piece of turd in my lower lip. Buy into this program, embrace it, and make it a way of life. Start by posting roll and building accountability. I promise you, quitting dip will feel better than any academic achievement you've ever obtained. Not to mention a few friends for life you'll gain along the way. It won't be easy, but I would expect someone like yourself to be ready for this at all costs.
Look forward to seeing you on roll.
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Sep 4 2014, 03:50 PM
Griffin,
Thanks for the support, I'm going to need it. Looking forward to posting another 98 roll calls with you.[/quote}
98? That's just the beginning. This addiction doesn't go away and if your wise you won't either (from this site that is).
Welcome and congratulations. There are a lot of tools, literally and figuratively, on this site. Your number one weapon is knowledge about your enemy...the nic whore. So arm yourself and prepare to fight.
When it gets tough, slow down, breath deep and focus...the crave will pass with or without nicotine. But, if you use...they will never get better.
PM me if you need anything.
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you have some really strong quitters already helping you in here-- keep those connections!
I advise you to be as involved as you can here. The psychological effects of the addiciton include some really strange stuff that even a medical doctor might not get until you are a little ways removed from the active addiction. Those dopamine circuits are pretty basic mammalian wiring! One of the things the addiction leads us to do is isolate, in various ways-- but a network of support can help replace what the poison used to do for our brains - only in a new, healthy way.
Glad to read your intro, and to support your quit!
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I am quit with you, Doc.
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Doc, I fixed your roll post this morning, you posted on Thursday's again. The fog you feel means you are healing! In lieu of thanks, may I send you a picture of a sore I have had for the last 13-14 years. It's in a very private spot.
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Doc, I fixed your roll post this morning, you posted on Thursday's again. The fog you feel means you are healing! In lieu of thanks, may I send you a picture of a sore I have had for the last 13-14 years. It's in a very private spot.
I always kinda wondered what a "thumblewort" was...and no, I don't want to see any pictures.
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welcome doc. i know a neurosurgeon who still dips, hopefully he doesn't slip!
KTC supports all its members and you won't find anything better. Anywhere. Stick around for a while
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Welcome Doc.
Time to take care of yourself so you can care for others.
Welcome. PM me if I can help. Use chat - great advice and great pressure or stress relief.
The method words. Stick it out thru the suck.
Best of luck,
Ben aka Medicff
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Welcome Doc. I'm an accountant who used to chew - for 23 years. The nic whore is evil, and she will dig her dirty claws into anyone she can, even doctors, and a 21-year old beautiful church youth leader WOMAN I know. Take it serious, doc. You and I are full blown nicotine junkie addicts! We are quit, but if we take one "hit" the whore will have us locked down again. I'm quit with you today. Hang in there, I know it sucks for you right now, but it's going to get better soon.
-Gabe
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Welcome Doc. I'm an accountant who used to chew - for 23 years. The nic whore is evil, and she will dig her dirty claws into anyone she can, even doctors, and a 21-year old beautiful church youth leader WOMAN I know. Take it serious, doc. You and I are full blown nicotine junkie addicts! We are quit, but if we take one "hit" the whore will have us locked down again. I'm quit with you today. Hang in there, I know it sucks for you right now, but it's going to get better soon.
-Gabe
Nicotine is no respecter of persons. It can sink its clutches into anyone. Breaking the chains of this addiction is the hardest yet most rewarding thing I have ever done. You have found the right place to help you quit and stay that way Doc! Welcome.
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Welcome to the asylum and I see you posted day 3 today, friggin awesome. As I told one of your fellow December quitters, time to cinch that belt nice and tight and hold on. The Nic B.....is going to come at you hard now since she knows you are serious about this quit. You need to fight your way through the fog and remember the SUCK to use it for strength later. I quit with you today!
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Thanks menace - I'm home from work on day 3 and feel the Nic B**** creeping into my thoughts. Your support really makes a difference.
I quit with you today.
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I am quit with you, Doc.
Thanks for the support.
I quit with you today Skoal
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I think it is wonderful that you are going to set the example for your patients. When a patient is told the health risks of being overweight, unhealthy lifestyle, ect. it tends to be less effective when they smell the stench of chew on you. LOL You can do anything you set your mind to do. You control your destiny. The most important thing we do here is post our promise to our quit brothers that we will not use nicotine in any form for today only. We honor our promise for the day. God willing we wake up the next day we repeat the process. I would tell you good luck but we don't believe in luck. We choose to be quit everyday. You can make that choice as well and will have thousands of quitters on this site that have your back. Welcome.
Thank you Ron, it's great to know I have so much support here. I already have 3 numbers to call in case I'm in trouble. I'm getting into the toughest part of Day 3 for me (evenings), and it's great to know I have people here who have my back, and numbers that I can call in case I need emergent help. I promised I would be quit today, and I know I can do today. ODAAT.
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There are a number of healthcare professionals on this site, ranging from doctors, to pharmacists, to dentists, to nurses, and paramedics and as sick as it sounds, I always find it refreshing when another one of us joins the likes of KTC. I feel like there is an added sense of irony for us, because on paper, you would think we would know better. I'm of the licensed drug dealing profession and knowing the line of work we all contribute to is the perfect breeding ground for nicotine addiction. High stress, long hours, and sometimes mundane work that requires another fixation to occupy the time. Basically medical work is like a sweaty ass, the perfect breeding ground for fungal infection, the same way our lifestyle is a breeding ground for addiction.
The good news my friend, all of that is a complete load of bullshit. One thing I've learned is that no matter the walk of life we come from, nicotine and addiction doesn't give a fuck. We're all perfect breeding grounds for addiction. So all that stress and addict beliefs that you need dip to get through your day is a load of shit. I have been quit for almost 9 months and every aspect of my life is better and more fulfilling now that I have realized I can succeed in all those facets without a piece of turd in my lower lip. Buy into this program, embrace it, and make it a way of life. Start by posting roll and building accountability. I promise you, quitting dip will feel better than any academic achievement you've ever obtained. Not to mention a few friends for life you'll gain along the way. It won't be easy, but I would expect someone like yourself to be ready for this at all costs.
Look forward to seeing you on roll.
Thanks Steakbomb. It's like a dirty little secret isn't it? A health care professional delivering medical care in some form or another - devoting huge amounts of their working hours to promote the health of the community they live in - sneaking off to dark corners to chew tobacco. Addiction (which I'm really just learning about now) is far more complicated than I had imagined. The added irony is that we should know better - we learn about the dangerous side effects of nicotine, we SEE people who have had massive head and neck surgeries to remove tumors, or people dying in their beds, emaciated and bald from chemo, and we think to ourselves "won't happen to me". WTF.
I was very pleased that I posted roll call today. I made it through one of the shittiest nights of memory, not able to fall asleep, heart racing, sweating, nauseated. I woke up and knew I could share with my december brothers and sisters that I kept my promise, that I'm serious about quitting, and knowing that even though it was a terrible night, I could do it again if it brought me closer to stopping dip.
ODAAT
I quit with you today.
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To everyone posting on my intro today - thank you. It nearly brought me to tears knowing I have so many people behind me. I had such an awful day today, coming off about 45minutes of sleep and had a busy, no-time-for-a-bathroom-break, type of day. Walking home and see all these wonderful people cheering me on and supporting me - it makes me feel great. It also makes me feel that the promise I made to stay quit today wasn't just to people "out there", it made it much more personal. I promised I could get through today without nicotine, and I'm going to keep that promise.
ODAAT
I quit with you all today.
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There are a number of healthcare professionals on this site, ranging from doctors, to pharmacists, to dentists, to nurses, and paramedics and as sick as it sounds, I always find it refreshing when another one of us joins the likes of KTC. I feel like there is an added sense of irony for us, because on paper, you would think we would know better. I'm of the licensed drug dealing profession and knowing the line of work we all contribute to is the perfect breeding ground for nicotine addiction. High stress, long hours, and sometimes mundane work that requires another fixation to occupy the time. Basically medical work is like a sweaty ass, the perfect breeding ground for fungal infection, the same way our lifestyle is a breeding ground for addiction.
The good news my friend, all of that is a complete load of bullshit. One thing I've learned is that no matter the walk of life we come from, nicotine and addiction doesn't give a fuck. We're all perfect breeding grounds for addiction. So all that stress and addict beliefs that you need dip to get through your day is a load of shit. I have been quit for almost 9 months and every aspect of my life is better and more fulfilling now that I have realized I can succeed in all those facets without a piece of turd in my lower lip. Buy into this program, embrace it, and make it a way of life. Start by posting roll and building accountability. I promise you, quitting dip will feel better than any academic achievement you've ever obtained. Not to mention a few friends for life you'll gain along the way. It won't be easy, but I would expect someone like yourself to be ready for this at all costs.
Look forward to seeing you on roll.
Thanks Steakbomb. It's like a dirty little secret isn't it? A health care professional delivering medical care in some form or another - devoting huge amounts of their working hours to promote the health of the community they live in - sneaking off to dark corners to chew tobacco. Addiction (which I'm really just learning about now) is far more complicated than I had imagined. The added irony is that we should know better - we learn about the dangerous side effects of nicotine, we SEE people who have had massive head and neck surgeries to remove tumors, or people dying in their beds, emaciated and bald from chemo, and we think to ourselves "won't happen to me". WTF.
I was very pleased that I posted roll call today. I made it through one of the shittiest nights of memory, not able to fall asleep, heart racing, sweating, nauseated. I woke up and knew I could share with my december brothers and sisters that I kept my promise, that I'm serious about quitting, and knowing that even though it was a terrible night, I could do it again if it brought me closer to stopping dip.
ODAAT
I quit with you today.
Doc gives me quit wood!
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Keep rocking the quit Doc.....It gets better and the freedom from the Nic B**** is awesome. It is so cool to not have to remember to grab a can or worry about when you can sneak that dip and you have the idea, ODAAT and you can't fail.
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I quit with Doc today.
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Keep it up doc!! The fog will start lifting. Keep up the great work. Today I quit with you
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Smells like someone quit their pants in here!
You are doing great doc... Stay active on the site Doc.. that is the key.. Don't let the Nic Bitch lul you into a quite corner by yourself... She can't fight us all together!
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Smells like someone quit their pants in here!
You are doing great doc... Stay active on the site Doc.. that is the key.. Don't let the Nic Bitch lul you into a quite corner by yourself... She can't fight us all together!
^^^That's funny as shit, Shorty.
CanaDoc,
Nice to meet you in chat last night. I'm trying not to let it piss me off that everyone is calling you "Doc". You've got a good quit started here. It will start to get better from here on so hang tough. Drink the KoolAid and live the dream.
Glad to quit with you today.
PM me if you need anything.
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Keep adding more days. Proud of your quit. Just know that you will have shitty days ahead. Every time that you over come one of those days, then the next one is a little easier. There is light at the end of the tunnel. ODAAT
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Keep rocking the quit Doc.....It gets better and the freedom from the Nic B**** is awesome. It is so cool to not have to remember to grab a can or worry about when you can sneak that dip and you have the idea, ODAAT and you can't fail.
^^^Menace knows what he's talking about here. Just wait till you start noticing how good freedom actually feels! It's subtle at first- but it just keeps getting better in the big picture. Only catch is you have to earn it, today. Then tomorrow decide if you are up for another taste of it. I'll be quitting with you each day you decide to take it on. Be sure to keep getting numbers for support.
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After an awful Day 3, Day 4 was relatively easy. I worked a 30h shift and had only a few cravings. The few cravings was a direct result of it being a very busy shift, with barely any time to eat. Makes me appreciate how important it is for me to keep busy, keep my mind occupied with something that's stimulating and avoid triggers. I am still new to experiencing triggers and I imagine I will find some as I progress through my quit, but for now I know 100% that my triggers are 1) evening time, 2) watching baseball, and 3) studying. Like an idiot, I used dip to help me study (even though my studying was never truly as focused as it was without dip) and now strongly associate studying with dipping. I need to continue studying as I progress through residency, so I'm going to need to come up with new environments / study groups in order to get my studying. I know that I'll need to study outside of my apartment - there is a smokeshop half a block from my apartment... I'll be monitoring my feelings and will have my december and other KTC brothers on my phone at the ready.