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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: Jakev on January 18, 2015, 04:08:00 AM
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Hello everyone, I am 21 years old and have been chewing for 6 years up to 3 cans a week. I recently attempted quitting about 4 months ago and made it through 42 days of hell before I caved in again. The problem I encountered was my job. I build industrial compressors and some of which have to go through extensive testing for multiple months straight. I was put on the night shift of 7 days a week 12 hour days and 5 days into that I caved in and bought a can.
I've come to the realization that I need help with quitting and that's how I found this forum. Any tips on fighting the urge while watching a machine run for 12 hours everyday would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time Jake V.
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Jakev, if you haven't already, dump all the shit you have right now. Dump it all. Don't keep anything. 42 days is a long time. Besides the stress from work, were there any other triggers? Something you might have not noticed. I myself also work the night shift and I know it's difficult. There is also a lot of quitters here that are in industries where dipping is the "thing" to do, they might be a little bit more helpful.
Not everybody can quit and stay quit by themselves, so it is a good thing that you found this forum. With that being said, you also have to want your quit. There are a lot of us who can help you stay quit. Start off my posting roll in your quit group here. (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/10847546/417/) You can learn more about roll call here. (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55560/)
Just know that you have to put in work to stay quit. Get on the forums and read. Post on other topics. Request help. Vent. Most importantly post roll everyday. Exchange numbers with others so you can shoot text when you most need help. PM me and I'll do anything I can to help you as well.
Where those 42 days that you quit for an easy experience for you? Or was it troublesome?
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I've dumped everything I had and yes there were other triggers as well mainly caused by me being an arrogant a**hole whenever I had a craving. I'm a pipe welder for my company and pretty much all the welders chew so that's not helpful. However I'm the only welder on night shift so I'm not really around it much. The first few days were the hardest then it just became a game of controlling my temper. I noticed myself kinda being in a un attentive state occasionally while focusing on welding and that would also trigger cravings.
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Jake, welcome. You've made the right decision to come to KTC and ask for help, that's why we're here. I have to warn you Jake, with asking for help for an addiction you're more than likely going to hear some things that you don't want to. With that, I am going to talk to Jake the addict, not Jake the welder. With what you've said about your temper and being an arrogant a**hole, you might have a problem with listening to things you don't want to hear. You have two choices you can either A.) Man up and choose to fight YOUR addiction or B.) Jake up and continue the life of YOU allowing nicotine to control you.
The very first thing that needs to be addressed is, "The problem I encountered was my job." The problem you encountered was that you are an addict. Your job did not shove that disgusting poison down your throat. You, the addict shoved that crap in your mouth. Jake at such a young age or any age for that matter is that people don't comprehend what it truly means to be an addict. When you fully understand that and you can commit yourself to be nicotine free forever, then my man you are headed in the right direction.
Jake, engulf yourself into KTC. Read until your eyes hurt. Start off with the Welcome Center, spend time reading Hall of Legends and Words of Wisdom. There is more information here to help you fight YOUR addiction than you can imagine. We don't hope or wish good luck here Jake because neither of those things has a damn thing to do with you fighting YOUR addiction. We QUIT!
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Jakev, great choice to quit! KTC can help you if you want to be free from the poison bad enough. Read everything on KTC! Learn how we quit and then live it. We are all surrounded by nicotine users, and the first few months are full of triggers while your brain gets used to life without the poison. You can be quit though. I was afraid I would never be able to be quit, but I found KTC and started "drinking the kool-aide", and now I am 601 days removed from being a slave to that death in a can... PM me if you need anything.
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Thank you for the advices on the matter. Grady you are entirely correct I need to choose the jake that has a stronger will to overcome the garbage and soak up the wealth of knowledge you guys have and are willing to provide.
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Like the others have said Jake. Post roll and make the promise to your group that you will not have nicotine for 24 hours. The fact that this site approaches quitting as a minute by minute, hour by hour, and day by day process is awesome. The number of days quit is just a number, because every day we quit together like it's the first day. Remember this... this site will out last your cravings and rage. Simple as that. If craving jump on here. If you're raging come and vent. Hell, even if you're bored. Just read and type away and before you know it, the bitch has gone and you're wrapped up in helping another.
Have you posted roll yet?
I too work in a very "dip saturated" environment. PM me anytime and if you want send your digits.
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Hello everyone, I am 21 years old and have been chewing for 6 years up to 3 cans a week. I recently attempted quitting about 4 months ago and made it through 42 days of hell before I caved in again. The problem I encountered was my job. I build industrial compressors and some of which have to go through extensive testing for multiple months straight. I was put on the night shift of 7 days a week 12 hour days and 5 days into that I caved in and bought a can.
I've come to the realization that I need help with quitting and that's how I found this forum. Any tips on fighting the urge while watching a machine run for 12 hours everyday would be greatly appreciated. Thank you for your time Jake V.
Jake my young friend, all I'm reading from you is excuses! Look dude there's people here that can't find work,they have families,bills trying figure out what to do next! But there not using excuses to slip back to the ole nic bitch! I work side by side everyday with 8 guys dipping one rides beside me puts dip in just like I use to every morning soon as we hop in truck! Damn brother we in cab with truck windows up heat blasting he opens can and....my mouth don't water,hell no instead I look at him and say that shit stinks! I quit with you! I'm here for you! Gotta help yourself quit looking for excuses to be old you!
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Jake, welcome. You've made the right decision to come to KTC and ask for help, that's why we're here. I have to warn you Jake, with asking for help for an addiction you're more than likely going to hear some things that you don't want to. With that, I am going to talk to Jake the addict, not Jake the welder. With what you've said about your temper and being an arrogant a**hole, you might have a problem with listening to things you don't want to hear. You have two choices you can either A.) Man up and choose to fight YOUR addiction or B.) Jake up and continue the life of YOU allowing nicotine to control you.
The very first thing that needs to be addressed is, "The problem I encountered was my job." The problem you encountered was that you are an addict. Your job did not shove that disgusting poison down your throat. You, the addict shoved that crap in your mouth. Jake at such a young age or any age for that matter is that people don't comprehend what it truly means to be an addict. When you fully understand that and you can commit yourself to be nicotine free forever, then my man you are headed in the right direction.
Jake, engulf yourself into KTC. Read until your eyes hurt. Start off with the Welcome Center, spend time reading Hall of Legends and Words of Wisdom. There is more information here to help you fight YOUR addiction than you can imagine. We don't hope or wish good luck here Jake because neither of those things has a damn thing to do with you fighting YOUR addiction. We QUIT!
Jake this^^^^ advice is gold. When I realized my fight wasn't with dip, it was with my addiction, I was able to get over the hump and truly live a quit life. I say this to almost every younger guy who posts here....young guys do not have the success rate that older guys do. Mainly because they don't realize what an addict they truly are. Prove me wrong and get after this Jake.
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Great decision you've made, Jake. But all that shit you mentioned? That's life, man. But you've made the decision at a young age, wish I had. Hit me up if you want to trade numbers. Plus I run a specialty welding company, so...
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Day 1 went by fairly well did crave occasionally but I would just put breath mints in and the cravings would subside. Thanks for the support
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Day 1 went by fairly well did crave occasionally but I would just put breath mints in and the cravings would subside. Thanks for the support
Proud of you my friend! When you realize how hard this is, understand that's the addict in you! Hope that makes sense to you. We are all on your side! We're here for you,need help or someone to talk to just pm someone we got your back! Post roll, listen, and read all you can!
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Day 1 went by fairly well did crave occasionally but I would just put breath mints in and the cravings would subside. Thanks for the support
Proud of you my friend! When you realize how hard this is, understand that's the addict in you! Hope that makes sense to you. We are all on your side! We're here for you,need help or someone to talk to just pm someone we got your back! Post roll, listen, and read all you can!
Great job! I read your thread. Remember this. 1 problem + nicotine = 2 problems.
Quit on.
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Jake, upper right hand corner of your screen, you have a couple of PM's in your inbox!
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Way to jump in on the program. A bunch of us are proud of you because, in part, for many of us, you are about the age of our kids.
I found that exercise was a big help during my early quit days. In the middle of the day, I would do sets of push-ups or dips or take a walk or whatever.
In addition, fake dip helps with strong cravings. I found some (Smokey Mountain) at Walmart. You can also order it online.
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Thanks everyone been doing really good lately trying to stay busy with tasks as much as I can. Today was my first time in 5 years that I've been able to go on a hunting trip with out a chew; I didn't have a single craving while out there and it felt great
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Jake, where the hell are you? You've logged in for the past 2 days but haven't posted roll, WHY?
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Get your ass back in here! You can't do this alone!
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This is to: Erick, B-Lo Matt, Awkwood, Pab, Dagranger, Jeff, Scowick, Stat,
Quitters, I felt that since you all attempted to reach out and help this wannabe, I should inform you that Jakey has decided that KTC isn't for him.
I usually don't share PM's because they are written in confidence but I figure since this kid has chosen a different path, that his feelings don't really fuckin matter to me.
Fella's I just wanted to let you know that Jake has decided that, " It's all accountability to some of you guys but it's fucking insane to me to think that this is you're main crutch to staying quit." " I've realized that the most important thing I can ever do in life is run to my family if I have a problem and need help. It's a sad excuse when so many people have to trust strangers they've never met before when they have people that would lay their lives down in order to help out. That's what blood does and if you can't get help from you're actual family members on an addiction then I feel sorry for you. I for myself would rather spend time with family then waste my day away looking to make sure I've posted roll or that I wasn't put on blast. Thanks for your time but some of you guys are a bit to irate about certain things that I personally dis agree with the way it's being handled."
Now normally after 3 or 4 PM's I would just move on and lend a hand to another a new quitter that gets it but it appears that Jakey has still been logging in everyday. So, in that case maybe you all have a few departing words for him? Stay quit my brothers!
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This is to: Erick, B-Lo Matt, Awkwood, Pab, Dagranger, Jeff, Scowick, Stat,
Quitters, I felt that since you all attempted to reach out and help this wannabe, I should inform you that Jakey has decided that KTC isn't for him.
I usually don't share PM's because they are written in confidence but I figure since this kid has chosen a different path, that his feelings don't really fuckin matter to me.
Fella's I just wanted to let you know that Jake has decided that, " It's all accountability to some of you guys but it's fucking insane to me to think that this is you're main crutch to staying quit." " I've realized that the most important thing I can ever do in life is run to my family if I have a problem and need help. It's a sad excuse when so many people have to trust strangers they've never met before when they have people that would lay their lives down in order to help out. That's what blood does and if you can't get help from you're actual family members on an addiction then I feel sorry for you. I for myself would rather spend time with family then waste my day away looking to make sure I've posted roll or that I wasn't put on blast. Thanks for your time but some of you guys are a bit to irate about certain things that I personally dis agree with the way it's being handled."
Now normally after 3 or 4 PM's I would just move on and lend a hand to another a new quitter that gets it but it appears that Jakey has still been logging in everyday. So, in that case maybe you all have a few departing words for him? Stay quit my brothers!
The ol' addict speak ... it never fails to turn my stomach. Perhaps Jakey is a lost cause, it certainly appears that way. This post is not for him (unless he decides to remove his dome from his sphincter). It's for any potential newbies looking and reading. Here's the thing; NO ONE in your family knows about your addiction better than the collective group that is KTC. It's admirable (and in my opinion a necessity) to lean on your family, and to use them for accountability. However, because they love you unconditionally ... if you fail, they'll pat you on your behind and tell you to try again, and that they love you. Well guess the fuck what ... here at KTC we have CONDITIONAL love for our brothers. First and foremost we expect you to post roll, and then honor your post! WE also expect you to get involved in your group, and get to know the "strangers" and turn them into friends you can count on when you are inches away from finger-banging the nic bitch again. WE will tell you straight-up that you're being a dumb fuck, and explain the rules over and over again to help keep your addiction in check. WE know exactly where you've been, and where you are going. If you fail us and return to your addiction, fire and brimstone will rain down upon you until your foggy head realizes how fucked up this addiction really is! Don't want any of that? Fine, go pound sand. Think a HUGE layer of accountability, tough love and brotherhood may help you kick this shit? Welcome to KTC fuckers ... put your seatbelt on, we've got your back.
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This is to: Erick, B-Lo Matt, Awkwood, Pab, Dagranger, Jeff, Scowick, Stat,
Quitters, I felt that since you all attempted to reach out and help this wannabe, I should inform you that Jakey has decided that KTC isn't for him.
I usually don't share PM's because they are written in confidence but I figure since this kid has chosen a different path, that his feelings don't really fuckin matter to me.
Fella's I just wanted to let you know that Jake has decided that, " It's all accountability to some of you guys but it's fucking insane to me to think that this is you're main crutch to staying quit." " I've realized that the most important thing I can ever do in life is run to my family if I have a problem and need help. It's a sad excuse when so many people have to trust strangers they've never met before when they have people that would lay their lives down in order to help out. That's what blood does and if you can't get help from you're actual family members on an addiction then I feel sorry for you. I for myself would rather spend time with family then waste my day away looking to make sure I've posted roll or that I wasn't put on blast. Thanks for your time but some of you guys are a bit to irate about certain things that I personally dis agree with the way it's being handled."
Now normally after 3 or 4 PM's I would just move on and lend a hand to another a new quitter that gets it but it appears that Jakey has still been logging in everyday. So, in that case maybe you all have a few departing words for him? Stay quit my brothers!
The ol' addict speak ... it never fails to turn my stomach. Perhaps Jakey is a lost cause, it certainly appears that way. This post is not for him (unless he decides to remove his dome from his sphincter). It's for any potential newbies looking and reading. Here's the thing; NO ONE in your family knows about your addiction better than the collective group that is KTC. It's admirable (and in my opinion a necessity) to lean on your family, and to use them for accountability. However, because they love you unconditionally ... if you fail, they'll pat you on your behind and tell you to try again, and that they love you. Well guess the fuck what ... here at KTC we have CONDITIONAL love for our brothers. First and foremost we expect you to post roll, and then honor your post! WE also expect you to get involved in your group, and get to know the "strangers" and turn them into friends you can count on when you are inches away from finger-banging the nic bitch again. WE will tell you straight-up that you're being a dumb fuck, and explain the rules over and over again if needed to help keep your addiction in check. WE know exactly where you've been, and where you are going. If you fail us and return to your addiction, fire and brimstone will rain down upon you until your foggy head realizes how fucked up this addiction really is! Don't want any of that? Fine, go pound sand. Think a HUGE layer of accountability, tough love and brotherhood may help you kick this shit? Welcome to KTC fuckers ... put your seatbelt on, we've got your back.
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This is to: Erick, B-Lo Matt, Awkwood, Pab, Dagranger, Jeff, Scowick, Stat,
Quitters, I felt that since you all attempted to reach out and help this wannabe, I should inform you that Jakey has decided that KTC isn't for him.
I usually don't share PM's because they are written in confidence but I figure since this kid has chosen a different path, that his feelings don't really fuckin matter to me.
Fella's I just wanted to let you know that Jake has decided that, " It's all accountability to some of you guys but it's fucking insane to me to think that this is you're main crutch to staying quit." " I've realized that the most important thing I can ever do in life is run to my family if I have a problem and need help. It's a sad excuse when so many people have to trust strangers they've never met before when they have people that would lay their lives down in order to help out. That's what blood does and if you can't get help from you're actual family members on an addiction then I feel sorry for you. I for myself would rather spend time with family then waste my day away looking to make sure I've posted roll or that I wasn't put on blast. Thanks for your time but some of you guys are a bit to irate about certain things that I personally dis agree with the way it's being handled."
Now normally after 3 or 4 PM's I would just move on and lend a hand to another a new quitter that gets it but it appears that Jakey has still been logging in everyday. So, in that case maybe you all have a few departing words for him? Stay quit my brothers!
The ol' addict speak ... it never fails to turn my stomach. Perhaps Jakey is a lost cause, it certainly appears that way. This post is not for him (unless he decides to remove his dome from his sphincter). It's for any potential newbies looking and reading. Here's the thing; NO ONE in your family knows about your addiction better than the collective group that is KTC. It's admirable (and in my opinion a necessity) to lean on your family, and to use them for accountability. However, because they love you unconditionally ... if you fail, they'll pat you on your behind and tell you to try again, and that they love you. Well guess the fuck what ... here at KTC we have CONDITIONAL love for our brothers. First and foremost we expect you to post roll, and then honor your post! WE also expect you to get involved in your group, and get to know the "strangers" and turn them into friends you can count on when you are inches away from finger-banging the nic bitch again. WE will tell you straight-up that you're being a dumb fuck, and explain the rules over and over again if needed to help keep your addiction in check. WE know exactly where you've been, and where you are going. If you fail us and return to your addiction, fire and brimstone will rain down upon you until your foggy head realizes how fucked up this addiction really is! Don't want any of that? Fine, go pound sand. Think a HUGE layer of accountability, tough love and brotherhood may help you kick this shit? Welcome to KTC fuckers ... put your seatbelt on, we've got your back.
Hey Jakev few simple questions here. Not trying to be cute all serious shit after all its your life, what will it hurt to listen, huh? Does your Mom dip? Does she know how it feels to wake up at 2 am craving a dip so bad you're sweating, stomach hurting, shaking, damn near slobbering at the mouth! What's gonna happen when rage hits you hard and you literally wanna kick someone's ass? Sure your family is gonna want to help but by God they're not gonna understand like your brothers in here! Wake up at 1 am need someone help you understand why your throats raw, tongue sore, damn son, brother, nephew whatever you need get to doctor tomorrow! Enough of this what I'm trying to say is I'm a huge family man, been dipping 38 years my son has been dipping about 15 he is the only damn one in my family that has a clue how hard this shit is to quit! It's not his responsibility to talk to Dad at 1am! I'm a grown ass man I take full responsibility for putting this shit in my mouth but I will say I'm not man enough to do this by myself! So Goodluck to you and your family quit but as for me I'm sticking to something I know that's working for me! Remember we're always here and some people like to bust your balls from time to time but hey, it's just words! Do me a favor if you're still quit, truly quit in a month pm me and let me know please! By the way I just took 15 minutes of my life for someone I really don't even know because I give a shit!
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Hi Jake!! My screen name is Roy, but my real name is... yep, Roy. No secrets here. I live in Augusta, GA... married... 3 kids... and dipped for more than 20 years until I found KTC (about 6 months ago).
For the past 176 days I have been dip free and I have the accountability and brotherhood I found at KTC to be the trick. I have tried numerous times in the past using family and even church friends for support, but many of them just didn't "get" it. It is hard for a non-addict to understand addiction.
Listen, no one can force you to do anything you don't want to do, I'm just sharing with you what has worked for me! Please don't hesitate to shoot me a text or even give me a call if you have any questions. I sent you a PM with my digits.
It's time to get busy livin' or get busy dyin'!! The choice is yours!
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Hey jake, I know exactly where your coming from. I thought this site was dumb when I started. Why would I want to talk with a bunch of strangers about my addiction to dip? I posted for a few days and read a bunch, then I noticed that others were getting to know eachother and having fun trying to quit dipping. So I took the leap, I asked my group if there was a text group I could join. Fast forward till now. I'm 106 days quit and those strangers in that text group are great friends. All I can say is that this site works and you might just end up with some good friends in the process.
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This is to: Erick, B-Lo Matt, Awkwood, Pab, Dagranger, Jeff, Scowick, Stat,
Quitters, I felt that since you all attempted to reach out and help this wannabe, I should inform you that Jakey has decided that KTC isn't for him.
I usually don't share PM's because they are written in confidence but I figure since this kid has chosen a different path, that his feelings don't really fuckin matter to me.
Fella's I just wanted to let you know that Jake has decided that, " It's all accountability to some of you guys but it's fucking insane to me to think that this is you're main crutch to staying quit." " I've realized that the most important thing I can ever do in life is run to my family if I have a problem and need help. It's a sad excuse when so many people have to trust strangers they've never met before when they have people that would lay their lives down in order to help out. That's what blood does and if you can't get help from you're actual family members on an addiction then I feel sorry for you. I for myself would rather spend time with family then waste my day away looking to make sure I've posted roll or that I wasn't put on blast. Thanks for your time but some of you guys are a bit to irate about certain things that I personally dis agree with the way it's being handled."
Now normally after 3 or 4 PM's I would just move on and lend a hand to another a new quitter that gets it but it appears that Jakey has still been logging in everyday. So, in that case maybe you all have a few departing words for him? Stay quit my brothers!
Run to your family? Seriously? My family is the LAST place I'd run. I'll tell you why....
My wife is so SICK AND TIRED or hearing about how I'm going to quit; so sick of dealing with my ups and downs, and I don't blame her a bit! She doesn't deserve to have to deal with my addictions...
How many times do I want to put my children through this? They know the risks of tobacco use. "My dad is trying to quit" versus "My dad quit". Which kid would you want to be?
If your family is like most, they're going to sympathize with you, and coddle you, like a defenseless child who isn't held accountable for the decisions he makes. Your family didn't create this problem did they? Why put it on them? When you fail, will it be your fault, or theirs?
You really need to reconsider your thought process. Your family? They're going to save you? Save yourself. You got yourself into this... does your family know that you're a nic addict? Did they watch you dip? Did they let you spend your money on dip? Did they ENABLE you to? How can they possibly help you?
KTC may not be the answer for you, but be assured, your family isn't either....
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Jakev you need to read every damn one of these post! Sounds to me like everyone here gives a shit about you to me sounds like my kind of family! Man up! Grow up whatever you gotta do but get in here and stay with us! I've done everything but beg you and if I thought it would help I'd do it!
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This is to: Erick, B-Lo Matt, Awkwood, Pab, Dagranger, Jeff, Scowick, Stat,
Quitters, I felt that since you all attempted to reach out and help this wannabe, I should inform you that Jakey has decided that KTC isn't for him.
I usually don't share PM's because they are written in confidence but I figure since this kid has chosen a different path, that his feelings don't really fuckin matter to me.
Fella's I just wanted to let you know that Jake has decided that, " It's all accountability to some of you guys but it's fucking insane to me to think that this is you're main crutch to staying quit." " I've realized that the most important thing I can ever do in life is run to my family if I have a problem and need help. It's a sad excuse when so many people have to trust strangers they've never met before when they have people that would lay their lives down in order to help out. That's what blood does and if you can't get help from you're actual family members on an addiction then I feel sorry for you. I for myself would rather spend time with family then waste my day away looking to make sure I've posted roll or that I wasn't put on blast. Thanks for your time but some of you guys are a bit to irate about certain things that I personally dis agree with the way it's being handled."
Now normally after 3 or 4 PM's I would just move on and lend a hand to another a new quitter that gets it but it appears that Jakey has still been logging in everyday. So, in that case maybe you all have a few departing words for him? Stay quit my brothers!
The ol' addict speak ... it never fails to turn my stomach. Perhaps Jakey is a lost cause, it certainly appears that way. This post is not for him (unless he decides to remove his dome from his sphincter). It's for any potential newbies looking and reading. Here's the thing; NO ONE in your family knows about your addiction better than the collective group that is KTC. It's admirable (and in my opinion a necessity) to lean on your family, and to use them for accountability. However, because they love you unconditionally ... if you fail, they'll pat you on your behind and tell you to try again, and that they love you. Well guess the fuck what ... here at KTC we have CONDITIONAL love for our brothers. First and foremost we expect you to post roll, and then honor your post! WE also expect you to get involved in your group, and get to know the "strangers" and turn them into friends you can count on when you are inches away from finger-banging the nic bitch again. WE will tell you straight-up that you're being a dumb fuck, and explain the rules over and over again if needed to help keep your addiction in check. WE know exactly where you've been, and where you are going. If you fail us and return to your addiction, fire and brimstone will rain down upon you until your foggy head realizes how fucked up this addiction really is! Don't want any of that? Fine, go pound sand. Think a HUGE layer of accountability, tough love and brotherhood may help you kick this shit? Welcome to KTC fuckers ... put your seatbelt on, we've got your back.
Hey Jakev few simple questions here. Not trying to be cute all serious shit after all its your life, what will it hurt to listen, huh? Does your Mom dip? Does she know how it feels to wake up at 2 am craving a dip so bad you're sweating, stomach hurting, shaking, damn near slobbering at the mouth! What's gonna happen when rage hits you hard and you literally wanna kick someone's ass? Sure your family is gonna want to help but by God they're not gonna understand like your brothers in here! Wake up at 1 am need someone help you understand why your throats raw, tongue sore, damn son, brother, nephew whatever you need get to doctor tomorrow! Enough of this what I'm trying to say is I'm a huge family man, been dipping 38 years my son has been dipping about 15 he is the only damn one in my family that has a clue how hard this shit is to quit! It's not his responsibility to talk to Dad at 1am! I'm a grown ass man I take full responsibility for putting this shit in my mouth but I will say I'm not man enough to do this by myself! So Goodluck to you and your family quit but as for me I'm sticking to something I know that's working for me! Remember we're always here and some people like to bust your balls from time to time but hey, it's just words! Do me a favor if you're still quit, truly quit in a month pm me and let me know please! By the way I just took 15 minutes of my life for someone I really don't even know because I give a shit!
Hey Jake I just want to say that some in my family directly enabled me to keep chewing because of that family love. How many intervention shows have you watched where the family supports the addiction. I need these keyboard warriors to stay quit and so do you.
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This is to: Erick, B-Lo Matt, Awkwood, Pab, Dagranger, Jeff, Scowick, Stat,
Quitters, I felt that since you all attempted to reach out and help this wannabe, I should inform you that Jakey has decided that KTC isn't for him.
I usually don't share PM's because they are written in confidence but I figure since this kid has chosen a different path, that his feelings don't really fuckin matter to me.
Fella's I just wanted to let you know that Jake has decided that, " It's all accountability to some of you guys but it's fucking insane to me to think that this is you're main crutch to staying quit." " I've realized that the most important thing I can ever do in life is run to my family if I have a problem and need help. It's a sad excuse when so many people have to trust strangers they've never met before when they have people that would lay their lives down in order to help out. That's what blood does and if you can't get help from you're actual family members on an addiction then I feel sorry for you. I for myself would rather spend time with family then waste my day away looking to make sure I've posted roll or that I wasn't put on blast. Thanks for your time but some of you guys are a bit to irate about certain things that I personally dis agree with the way it's being handled."
Now normally after 3 or 4 PM's I would just move on and lend a hand to another a new quitter that gets it but it appears that Jakey has still been logging in everyday. So, in that case maybe you all have a few departing words for him? Stay quit my brothers!
The ol' addict speak ... it never fails to turn my stomach. Perhaps Jakey is a lost cause, it certainly appears that way. This post is not for him (unless he decides to remove his dome from his sphincter). It's for any potential newbies looking and reading. Here's the thing; NO ONE in your family knows about your addiction better than the collective group that is KTC. It's admirable (and in my opinion a necessity) to lean on your family, and to use them for accountability. However, because they love you unconditionally ... if you fail, they'll pat you on your behind and tell you to try again, and that they love you. Well guess the fuck what ... here at KTC we have CONDITIONAL love for our brothers. First and foremost we expect you to post roll, and then honor your post! WE also expect you to get involved in your group, and get to know the "strangers" and turn them into friends you can count on when you are inches away from finger-banging the nic bitch again. WE will tell you straight-up that you're being a dumb fuck, and explain the rules over and over again if needed to help keep your addiction in check. WE know exactly where you've been, and where you are going. If you fail us and return to your addiction, fire and brimstone will rain down upon you until your foggy head realizes how fucked up this addiction really is! Don't want any of that? Fine, go pound sand. Think a HUGE layer of accountability, tough love and brotherhood may help you kick this shit? Welcome to KTC fuckers ... put your seatbelt on, we've got your back.
Hey Jakev few simple questions here. Not trying to be cute all serious shit after all its your life, what will it hurt to listen, huh? Does your Mom dip? Does she know how it feels to wake up at 2 am craving a dip so bad you're sweating, stomach hurting, shaking, damn near slobbering at the mouth! What's gonna happen when rage hits you hard and you literally wanna kick someone's ass? Sure your family is gonna want to help but by God they're not gonna understand like your brothers in here! Wake up at 1 am need someone help you understand why your throats raw, tongue sore, damn son, brother, nephew whatever you need get to doctor tomorrow! Enough of this what I'm trying to say is I'm a huge family man, been dipping 38 years my son has been dipping about 15 he is the only damn one in my family that has a clue how hard this shit is to quit! It's not his responsibility to talk to Dad at 1am! I'm a grown ass man I take full responsibility for putting this shit in my mouth but I will say I'm not man enough to do this by myself! So Goodluck to you and your family quit but as for me I'm sticking to something I know that's working for me! Remember we're always here and some people like to bust your balls from time to time but hey, it's just words! Do me a favor if you're still quit, truly quit in a month pm me and let me know please! By the way I just took 15 minutes of my life for someone I really don't even know because I give a shit!
Hey Jake I just want to say that some in my family directly enabled me to keep chewing because of that family love. How many intervention shows have you watched where the family supports the addiction. I need these keyboard warriors to stay quit and so do you.
Hey Jake this is your addiction talking. I've been thinking that being accountable for your quit is bad for your family. Does that make any sense? Is coming to this site and posting roll really messing with you being a family man? You can make up whatever lies you want but my guess is you either have quit or are looking to quit, so you are sliding from posting roll here. Being honest with yourself is a big part of quitting, so why don't you take a little time and self assess where you are at....and then come clean. Taking a little shit here is way better than having your lip packed full of poison. Pull it together.