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Title: DAY 1
Post by: Reaper on October 15, 2013, 11:00:00 AM
This is DAY 1 for me and i have searched the internet on ways to quit and stumbled upon this site and have read alot of stories that show other users in the same situation as me. i know if they can do it then i will be able to as well. Althoguth with that being said this shit sucks withdrawls are a bitch right now. 17 year dipper and smoker to cold turkey in 1 day. my body is hating me right now but i know in the long run it will help.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Skoal Monster on October 15, 2013, 11:01:00 AM
welcome Reaper,

Read this, if I can do it so can you. Your in the right place



What Price to Save Ourselves?

by Spongebob

For over 2 decades, my best quit efforts lasted maybe 10 or so days. Finally, asking myself the right question changed my attitude and made it possible to quit. This quit is not easy, but it is finally in MY CONTROL and (I firmly believe) FINAL.

Previously, I always asked "how can I find the strength to break this addiction? In particular, how can I get through the crushing brain fog that always leads to my demise. I can't stay quit or start quitting right now because I get too brain-stupid to get any work done." THAT QUESTION ALWAYS LED ME TO FAIL because (a) it gave me the choice to fail, and (B) it said I had other priorities that I would allow to interfere with quitting.

This time, I asked myself a different question. "IS THERE ANYTHING I WILL NOT DO IN ORDER TO QUIT? IS ANY COST TOO HIGH?" Since nobody was asking me to give up my family, I decided the answer was "NO." I therefore decided that I WILL INCUR ANY COST WHATSOEVER TO QUIT. If I must, I will use up all my vacation time to get away from the office until the fog lifts. If I have no vacation time left, I'll call in sick (and I consider addiction withdrawal to be honestly sick). If I run out of vacation/sick time, I'll ask for unpaid leave until my head clears up and while I practice handling fewer stresses without opening a tin. If I can't get unpaid leave, I'll let that job go (and go find a new job AFTER I SAVED MY LIFE). If I can't afford being on unpaid leave or unemployment, I will swallow my pride and ask for help from family  friends, and I will sell my stupid car/house/stereo while I SAVE MY LIFE.

WOW, once I decided that NO COST WAS TOO HIGH TO SAVE MY LIFE, and that I would GLADLY INCUR THOSE COSTS, my whole mental attitude changed. No longer were there any impediments to quitting. Once that was my attitude, quitting was easier than I had experienced in prior efforts. I did have to cut back on my office time (and incur some temporary pay reduction), but nothing drastic. And in the long run, who gives a damn?

See, the real barrier wasn't quitting tobacco -- the real barrier had been what I had not CONSIDERED doing, or had not been WILLING to do, in order to make quitting the absolute #1 priority.

Another example: does quitting make being around the house unbearable? Negotiate leaving for 2 weeks!!! "Honey, I need these 2 weeks in order to give you the rest of my life. This isn't a vacation, this is the old 'stick with me in sickness and in health thing.' It's unfair to leave you with the kids, but I will make it up to you, and you will like the new me much better, and I won't go and get cancer on you.")

I came to this "At What Price" attitude after my wife died. She had been given a terminal diagnosis from hell with no hope whatsoever (Lou Gehrig's Disease). We had wished there was something/anything we could do, but there was not. And she had done nothing to deserve it (no smokes, barely drank, exercised regularly, young).

Now here I was, 14 months after she passed away, giving myself my own terminal sentence. But this was a sentence I had the power to stop. My wife had been denied any such power. So, every time I CHOSE to fill my lip, I insulted the memory of my wife. My wife and I would have paid ANY PRICE to save her: sacrificing job, house, friends, etc.

Once I asked "What Price" to save myself, the answers became rather obvious and easy. This quit is not easy, but now it is only a question of time. The fog still lingers some, but now I just ride it out rather than fight it or let it scare me back to the can.

Hey guys, don't fill the boards with condolences. It's been 15 months and I've come to terms with my loss. But I wanted to share this story to prompt you to ask yourselves, "Is Any Price Too High?" Are you putting artificial barriers (like the job, or conserving vacation days and sick leave, or keeping secrets from your wife) in the way of accomplishing THE MOST IMPORTANT GOAL in your life right now?

Would you quit your job, sell your house and move to a desolate place where you have no friends, all in order to save the life of your child, wife, or father? Of course you would. Now, do whatever you have to do, at whatever cost, to save your own life.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: RAZD611 on October 15, 2013, 11:06:00 AM
Quote from: Reaper
This is DAY 1 for me and i have searched the internet on ways to quit and stumbled upon this site and have read alot of stories that show other users in the same situation as me. i know if they can do it then i will be able to as well. Althoguth with that being said this shit sucks withdrawls are a bitch right now. 17 year dipper and smoker to cold turkey in 1 day. my body is hating me right now but i know in the long run it will help.
You stumbled into the right place. Remember every shitty second of the first few days and let it be your reminder to never do this again.

Hour by hour, minute by minute, what every it takes to get through.

You can do this!!!
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Reaper on October 15, 2013, 11:12:00 AM
Quote from: Skoal
welcome Reaper,

Read this, if I can do it so can you. Your in the right place



What Price to Save Ourselves?

by Spongebob

For over 2 decades, my best quit efforts lasted maybe 10 or so days. Finally, asking myself the right question changed my attitude and made it possible to quit. This quit is not easy, but it is finally in MY CONTROL and (I firmly believe) FINAL.

Previously, I always asked "how can I find the strength to break this addiction? In particular, how can I get through the crushing brain fog that always leads to my demise. I can't stay quit or start quitting right now because I get too brain-stupid to get any work done." THAT QUESTION ALWAYS LED ME TO FAIL because (a) it gave me the choice to fail, and (B) it said I had other priorities that I would allow to interfere with quitting.

This time, I asked myself a different question. "IS THERE ANYTHING I WILL NOT DO IN ORDER TO QUIT? IS ANY COST TOO HIGH?" Since nobody was asking me to give up my family, I decided the answer was "NO." I therefore decided that I WILL INCUR ANY COST WHATSOEVER TO QUIT. If I must, I will use up all my vacation time to get away from the office until the fog lifts. If I have no vacation time left, I'll call in sick (and I consider addiction withdrawal to be honestly sick). If I run out of vacation/sick time, I'll ask for unpaid leave until my head clears up and while I practice handling fewer stresses without opening a tin. If I can't get unpaid leave, I'll let that job go (and go find a new job AFTER I SAVED MY LIFE). If I can't afford being on unpaid leave or unemployment, I will swallow my pride and ask for help from family  friends, and I will sell my stupid car/house/stereo while I SAVE MY LIFE.

WOW, once I decided that NO COST WAS TOO HIGH TO SAVE MY LIFE, and that I would GLADLY INCUR THOSE COSTS, my whole mental attitude changed. No longer were there any impediments to quitting. Once that was my attitude, quitting was easier than I had experienced in prior efforts. I did have to cut back on my office time (and incur some temporary pay reduction), but nothing drastic. And in the long run, who gives a damn?

See, the real barrier wasn't quitting tobacco -- the real barrier had been what I had not CONSIDERED doing, or had not been WILLING to do, in order to make quitting the absolute #1 priority.

Another example: does quitting make being around the house unbearable? Negotiate leaving for 2 weeks!!! "Honey, I need these 2 weeks in order to give you the rest of my life. This isn't a vacation, this is the old 'stick with me in sickness and in health thing.' It's unfair to leave you with the kids, but I will make it up to you, and you will like the new me much better, and I won't go and get cancer on you.")

I came to this "At What Price" attitude after my wife died. She had been given a terminal diagnosis from hell with no hope whatsoever (Lou Gehrig's Disease). We had wished there was something/anything we could do, but there was not. And she had done nothing to deserve it (no smokes, barely drank, exercised regularly, young).

Now here I was, 14 months after she passed away, giving myself my own terminal sentence. But this was a sentence I had the power to stop. My wife had been denied any such power. So, every time I CHOSE to fill my lip, I insulted the memory of my wife. My wife and I would have paid ANY PRICE to save her: sacrificing job, house, friends, etc.

Once I asked "What Price" to save myself, the answers became rather obvious and easy. This quit is not easy, but now it is only a question of time. The fog still lingers some, but now I just ride it out rather than fight it or let it scare me back to the can.

Hey guys, don't fill the boards with condolences. It's been 15 months and I've come to terms with my loss. But I wanted to share this story to prompt you to ask yourselves, "Is Any Price Too High?" Are you putting artificial barriers (like the job, or conserving vacation days and sick leave, or keeping secrets from your wife) in the way of accomplishing THE MOST IMPORTANT GOAL in your life right now?

Would you quit your job, sell your house and move to a desolate place where you have no friends, all in order to save the life of your child, wife, or father? Of course you would. Now, do whatever you have to do, at whatever cost, to save your own life.
That is deffinetly an uplifting and inspiring story. thank you for sharign that with me.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: rickddd on October 15, 2013, 04:32:00 PM
Hey Reaper! welcome to the site and congrats on your decision to quit. Not sure if you figured it out yet or not, but learn how to post roll in your group (january 2014) and then do so every day. Also get to know some folks in your group and around the site. Click on the pink colored "WELCOME CENTER" link towards the top left of this page to get started.

Some things that helped me in the early days of my quit were sunflower seeds, jolly ranchers, atomic fireballs, gum, and fake chew. Use any non-nicotine tool you want. Try them all and decide what works for you. Exercise is a great way to burn off some of the anxiety, and drink lots of water to clear out your system.

We quit 1 day at a time here. You post roll each day, which is your promise to not use nicotine all day - then do whatever it takes to keep nicotine out of your body that whole day. then repeat it all the next day. Don't fall into the trap of thinking about how hard it will be to quit forever. Just quit for today.

Its a bitch at first but it does get easier. Quit with you today. PM me if I can help in any way.

Rick

EDIT: I see you figured out how to post roll Reaper, great job! You got my support, I also suggest you PM "Sportster4Ever" in your group, who has offered to provide more accountability.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Pinched on October 15, 2013, 04:55:00 PM
Quote from: rickddd
Hey Reaper! welcome to the site and congrats on your decision to quit. Not sure if you figured it out yet or not, but learn how to post roll in your group (january 2014) and then do so every day. Also get to know some folks in your group and around the site. Click on the pink colored "WELCOME CENTER" link towards the top left of this page to get started.

Some things that helped me in the early days of my quit were sunflower seeds, jolly ranchers, atomic fireballs, gum, and fake chew. Use any non-nicotine tool you want. Try them all and decide what works for you. Exercise is a great way to burn off some of the anxiety, and drink lots of water to clear out your system.

We quit 1 day at a time here. You post roll each day, which is your promise to not use nicotine all day - then do whatever it takes to keep nicotine out of your body that whole day. then repeat it all the next day. Don't fall into the trap of thinking about how hard it will be to quit forever. Just quit for today.

Its a bitch at first but it does get easier. Quit with you today. PM me if I can help in any way.

Rick

EDIT: I see you figured out how to post roll Reaper, great job! You got my support, I also suggest you PM "Sportster4Ever" in your group, who has offered to provide more accountability.
Reaper,
Rick did a great job outlining things that you could use as alternatives. The only tid bit of information I would add to that is to prepare yourself mentally and physically.

Quitting is definitely not easy, but you have some promising quitters in your quit group and your intros. Prepare to control any anger. You may be a docile guy but during your quit you will have a short fuse. I urge you to remember that only you put worm dirt between your cheek and gum, no one else.

Join your group 100% that means put your phone number out there to them and let them help you while you help them back. Accountability is everything and even the hard core quitters need new vision from time to time.

Pinched
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Punkin on October 15, 2013, 05:07:00 PM
Quote from: Reaper
This is DAY 1 for me and i have searched the internet on ways to quit and stumbled upon this site and have read alot of stories that show other users in the same situation as me. i know if they can do it then i will be able to as well. Althoguth with that being said this shit sucks withdrawls are a bitch right now. 17 year dipper and smoker to cold turkey in 1 day. my body is hating me right now but i know in the long run it will help.
Welcome reaper and congrats on posting roll. I pm'd you my number. Use it if you need anything. Proud to be quit with you today
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: shstevens on October 15, 2013, 06:19:00 PM
Quote from: Punkin
Quote from: Reaper
This is DAY 1 for me and i have searched the internet on ways to quit and stumbled upon this site and have read alot of stories that show other users in the same situation as me.  i know if they can do it then i will be able to as well.  Althoguth with that being said this shit sucks withdrawls are a bitch right now.  17 year dipper and smoker to cold turkey in 1 day.  my body is hating me right now but i know in the long run it will help.
Welcome reaper and congrats on posting roll. I pm'd you my number. Use it if you need anything. Proud to be quit with you today
Stick with it man. I'm on day 8 and it's much better already. The first 3 days were a total fog, headaches, couldn't sleep, but its now passed. So take it one day at a time. As they say quit for today and don't worry about tmrw. proud to quit with you.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on October 15, 2013, 07:14:00 PM
Quote from: shstevens
Quote from: Punkin
Quote from: Reaper
This is DAY 1 for me and i have searched the internet on ways to quit and stumbled upon this site and have read alot of stories that show other users in the same situation as me.  i know if they can do it then i will be able to as well.  Althoguth with that being said this shit sucks withdrawls are a bitch right now.  17 year dipper and smoker to cold turkey in 1 day.  my body is hating me right now but i know in the long run it will help.
Welcome reaper and congrats on posting roll. I pm'd you my number. Use it if you need anything. Proud to be quit with you today
Stick with it man. I'm on day 8 and it's much better already. The first 3 days were a total fog, headaches, couldn't sleep, but its now passed. So take it one day at a time. As they say quit for today and don't worry about tmrw. proud to quit with you.
Your body is gonna hate you for a little while reaper. It is the price we have to pay for our freedom. We poisoned our bodies for years and it is time to pay the piper.

The good news is this can be done. Day 288 right here, after dozens and dozens of failed attempts. The tools you need to be successful are here, along with a truck load of support. You bring the balls.

Get yourself to the welcome center and learn about posting roll. It is the backbone of accountability and the key to success with this program. You have a lot of hard days before you, but, it can be done.

One day at a time reaper. I quit with you today.

This is why we are here. index.php?showtopic=125 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=125)

This is how we quit. index.php?showtopic=120 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=120)

This how to post roll. index.php?showtopic=50 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50)
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Reaper on October 15, 2013, 08:17:00 PM
Quote from: Its_Got2Happen
Quote from: shstevens
Quote from: Punkin
Quote from: Reaper
This is DAY 1 for me and i have searched the internet on ways to quit and stumbled upon this site and have read alot of stories that show other users in the same situation as me.  i know if they can do it then i will be able to as well.  Althoguth with that being said this shit sucks withdrawls are a bitch right now.  17 year dipper and smoker to cold turkey in 1 day.  my body is hating me right now but i know in the long run it will help.
Welcome reaper and congrats on posting roll. I pm'd you my number. Use it if you need anything. Proud to be quit with you today
Stick with it man. I'm on day 8 and it's much better already. The first 3 days were a total fog, headaches, couldn't sleep, but its now passed. So take it one day at a time. As they say quit for today and don't worry about tmrw. proud to quit with you.
Your body is gonna hate you for a little while reaper. It is the price we have to pay for our freedom. We poisoned our bodies for years and it is time to pay the piper.

The good news is this can be done. Day 288 right here, after dozens and dozens of failed attempts. The tools you need to be successful are here, along with a truck load of support. You bring the balls.

Get yourself to the welcome center and learn about posting roll. It is the backbone of accountability and the key to success with this program. You have a lot of hard days before you, but, it can be done.

One day at a time reaper. I quit with you today.

This is why we are here. index.php?showtopic=125 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=125)

This is how we quit. index.php?showtopic=120 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=120)

This how to post roll. index.php?showtopic=50 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50)
almost done with day 1. the munchies are seriously kicking in and I really do appreciate all the support yall have given me. Its gonna be tough I know but i like a good challenge. thank you all again for the support.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Mike from AB on October 15, 2013, 09:00:00 PM
Welcome Reaper  congrats on almost getting done day #1! You're on the right track already!
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Reaper on October 16, 2013, 02:47:00 PM
Well I made it through day 1 and almost done with day 2. the cravings are getting more difficult but the damn munchies are overpowering them lol. i feel like after i kick the crap out of the nicotine monkey i will need a personal trainer to help with the extra weight i am going to pack on.

i want to thank all of you that have been posting with me thus far and it makes it alot easier to deal with when your talking to others about it and trying to figure out how you gonna do this by yourself. i know the times ahead of me are gonna be harder but i have faith that the support group i have here will guide me through it.

if your reading this and havent decided to stop yet please join this group there is alot of good people in here that are honestly here to help you through this difficult time.

well with that said i am gonna go and finish kicking day 2's ass.

i am here for anyone if you need me.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: RAZD611 on October 16, 2013, 02:51:00 PM
Quote from: Reaper
Well I made it through day 1 and almost done with day 2. the cravings are getting more difficult but the damn munchies are overpowering them lol. i feel like after i kick the crap out of the nicotine monkey i will need a personal trainer to help with the extra weight i am going to pack on.

i want to thank all of you that have been posting with me thus far and it makes it alot easier to deal with when your talking to others about it and trying to figure out how you gonna do this by yourself. i know the times ahead of me are gonna be harder but i have faith that the support group i have here will guide me through it.

if your reading this and havent decided to stop yet please join this group there is alot of good people in here that are honestly here to help you through this difficult time.

well with that said i am gonna go and finish kicking day 2's ass.

i am here for anyone if you need me.
Hang in there it is going to get better. Get some pure cranberry juice from the health food store. It will help speed the detox. Lots of water and seeds, gum, atomic fireballs, whatever it takes to keep it out of your face.

You can do this.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: rickddd on October 16, 2013, 02:56:00 PM
You're kicking ass, Reaper! Keep it up! this is how its done, you need to vent or need a distraction, you come on here and post, or you call/text somebody.
You really should try the LIVE CHAT link in the upper right, great distraction and great way to meet some other badass quitters on this site.

Hang in there reaper!
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: CaliforniaSlim on October 16, 2013, 03:12:00 PM
Nice work so far Reaper. Keep it up. Stay involved.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Bean on October 16, 2013, 03:28:00 PM
Well done, Reaper!!! 2 days is huge. Click around in the Quit Groups...not just yours, but a few other months and even years. All of those folks were once where you are. And none of those folks got where they are now without kicking the Nic Bitch's ass on Day 2. YOU GOT THIS, BROTHER!!!
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Punkin on October 16, 2013, 03:30:00 PM
Hell yeah reaper!!! Your doing it man, keep it up. Keep posting roll and keep on reaching out. The cravings get easier to deal with but don't count out using fake snuff like smokey mountain or Jakes Mint Chew etc. That stuff has really helped me. Holler if you need anything

P.S. Bacon flavored seeds. They're so good that your toungue will slap your brains out trying to get at them.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Reaper on October 16, 2013, 04:15:00 PM
Thanks all for the support i am drinking water for the first time in a while and eating sea salt black pepper seeds and the cravings are starting to ease off. the trick is i am finding ways to keep my mind off the dip and on other things like posting in here or projects that keep me busy.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: RAZD611 on October 16, 2013, 04:48:00 PM
Quote from: Reaper
Thanks all for the support i am drinking water for the first time in a while and eating sea salt black pepper seeds and the cravings are starting to ease off. the trick is i am finding ways to keep my mind off the dip and on other things like posting in here or projects that keep me busy.
Atta Boy Luther! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6QlbKt3qcE)
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: rickddd on October 16, 2013, 05:52:00 PM
Hey Reaper, you should keep all this in the same thread, so its all together and you can come back to it all. If you ask the mods, they will merge it into your other thread.
I mean you dont have to, but I think it would be cool to see all your progress along the way in the same thread.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Reaper on October 16, 2013, 06:09:00 PM
Thanks for the advice Rick sent them a PM and hopefully it will all be in one location for tracking progress.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: ParadigmDawg on October 16, 2013, 06:15:00 PM
Damn Reaper....did you just about go 48 hours without a dip? You may end up being one bad ass quitter.

Hell...I will quit with you.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Mike from AB on October 17, 2013, 12:08:00 AM
Quote from: Reaper
Well I made it through day 1 and almost done with day 2. the cravings are getting more difficult but the damn munchies are overpowering them lol. i feel like after i kick the crap out of the nicotine monkey i will need a personal trainer to help with the extra weight i am going to pack on.

i want to thank all of you that have been posting with me thus far and it makes it alot easier to deal with when your talking to others about it and trying to figure out how you gonna do this by yourself. i know the times ahead of me are gonna be harder but i have faith that the support group i have here will guide me through it.

if your reading this and havent decided to stop yet please join this group there is alot of good people in here that are honestly here to help you through this difficult time.

well with that said i am gonna go and finish kicking day 2's ass.

i am here for anyone if you need me.
Day 2 is done? Awesome work bro! That's the 2 hardest +1s  you done it!
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Gdubya on October 17, 2013, 12:17:00 AM
Awesome job Reaper. You are doing this quit right my friend. Hey don't worry about the munches. It's all fair game. You cannot eat anything that's worse for you than that nic. My favorite? Drumsticks/Nuttybuddies. By the box full. But that does last a long time. So eat whatever you want. As the caves subside, and I promise they will, you will naturally start eating healthier. Just take it one day at a time. Congrats on finishing up day 2. Great job.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Reaper on October 17, 2013, 08:52:00 AM
Day 3 of the quit:

Well last night was interesting to say the least. The wife felt it was her civial duty to make my life hell yesterday for some damn reason. when i got home from work it only esculated. the craving for a dip was extreme or even a cigarette but after reading some of the post where these guys went so far and slipped up i said i cant let that happen no matter how hard the shit is. the pressure went on and on even till this morning she is still on my ass but thank God for the man that invented sunflower seeds and flavored water.

i am trying to ignore all the stress causing me to want the dip and finding ways to occupy that time by staying busy and now i have to take online courses for my job. this is when the cravings are gonna kick in the most but i am sure that the nic bitch will not win.

thanks to all that have helped me and keep helping me by telling me what to expect. i know that it will get worse before it gets better but i am confidient with all of your help i will beat this habits ass.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Punkin on October 17, 2013, 09:20:00 AM
Quote from: Reaper
Day 3 of the quit:

Well last night was interesting to say the least. The wife felt it was her civial duty to make my life hell yesterday for some damn reason. when i got home from work it only esculated. the craving for a dip was extreme or even a cigarette but after reading some of the post where these guys went so far and slipped up i said i cant let that happen no matter how hard the shit is. the pressure went on and on even till this morning she is still on my ass but thank God for the man that invented sunflower seeds and flavored water.

i am trying to ignore all the stress causing me to want the dip and finding ways to occupy that time by staying busy and now i have to take online courses for my job. this is when the cravings are gonna kick in the most but i am sure that the nic bitch will not win.

thanks to all that have helped me and keep helping me by telling me what to expect. i know that it will get worse before it gets better but i am confidient with all of your help i will beat this habits ass.
Hell yeah. We got a badass quitter on our hands boys!!
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Pinched on October 17, 2013, 09:24:00 AM
Quote from: Reaper
Day 3 of the quit:

Well last night was interesting to say the least. The wife felt it was her civial duty to make my life hell yesterday for some damn reason. when i got home from work it only esculated. the craving for a dip was extreme or even a cigarette but after reading some of the post where these guys went so far and slipped up i said i cant let that happen no matter how hard the shit is. the pressure went on and on even till this morning she is still on my ass but thank God for the man that invented sunflower seeds and flavored water.

i am trying to ignore all the stress causing me to want the dip and finding ways to occupy that time by staying busy and now i have to take online courses for my job. this is when the cravings are gonna kick in the most but i am sure that the nic bitch will not win.

thanks to all that have helped me and keep helping me by telling me what to expect. i know that it will get worse before it gets better but i am confidient with all of your help i will beat this habits ass.
Reaper,
My only additional advice would be not to ignore the anger, you can't take true primal rage and bottle it up, it will explode. Do something physical today: punch a heavy bag, work out, run, ride a bike, fight a bear...

I am glad to hear that you are staying quit and you seem to have one hell of a drive with your QUIT. Reach out to me if I can help in any way. Also PM me immediately if you decide to fight a bear, I have been wanting to witness that for a long time.

Pinched
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Reaper on October 17, 2013, 09:37:00 AM
Thanks for the advice Pinched. if i go fight a bear i will call you first or at least have it on you tube for all to see. i will find a way to release the anger so it is not all bottled up inside cause i know all that does is make the next argument even worse cause the bottled up rage always finds a way to come out.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: ParadigmDawg on October 17, 2013, 04:05:00 PM
Quote from: Reaper
Day 3 of the quit:

Well last night was interesting to say the least. The wife felt it was her civial duty to make my life hell yesterday for some damn reason. when i got home from work it only esculated. the craving for a dip was extreme or even a cigarette but after reading some of the post where these guys went so far and slipped up i said i cant let that happen no matter how hard the shit is. the pressure went on and on even till this morning she is still on my ass but thank God for the man that invented sunflower seeds and flavored water.

i am trying to ignore all the stress causing me to want the dip and finding ways to occupy that time by staying busy and now i have to take online courses for my job. this is when the cravings are gonna kick in the most but i am sure that the nic bitch will not win.

thanks to all that have helped me and keep helping me by telling me what to expect. i know that it will get worse before it gets better but i am confidient with all of your help i will beat this habits ass.
Dude, I thought my wife was doing the same thing but once my head was screwed on straight, I realized it was just how I was taking things. I was the total ass and she was the one I was blaming everything on. The way I was acting was tearing me up inside but I couldn't control it. I was only happy when I was way out in the woods, on my bike and alone.

I am so glad that those first 60 days are gone and my personality is back to normal. Just hang in the and it will get better.

Pinched will loan you money and that will make you feel better too...lol....
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: CaliforniaSlim on October 17, 2013, 05:37:00 PM
Quote from: ParadigmDawg
Quote from: Reaper
Day 3 of the quit:

Well last night was interesting to say the least.  The wife felt it was her civial duty to make my life hell yesterday for some damn reason.  when i got home from work it only esculated.  the craving for a dip was extreme or even a cigarette but after reading some of the post where these guys went so far and slipped up i said i cant let that happen no matter how hard the shit is.  the pressure went on and on even till this morning she is still on my ass but thank God for the man that invented sunflower seeds and flavored water. 

i am trying to ignore all the stress causing me to want the dip and finding ways to occupy that time by staying busy and now i have to take online courses for my job.  this is when the cravings are gonna kick in the most but i am sure that the nic bitch will not win.

thanks to all that have helped me and keep helping me by telling me what to expect.  i know that it will get worse before it gets better but i am confidient with all of your help i will beat this habits ass.
Dude, I thought my wife was doing the same thing but once my head was screwed on straight, I realized it was just how I was taking things. I was the total ass and she was the one I was blaming everything on. The way I was acting was tearing me up inside but I couldn't control it. I was only happy when I was way out in the woods, on my bike and alone.

I am so glad that those first 60 days are gone and my personality is back to normal. Just hang in the and it will get better.

Pinched will loan you money and that will make you feel better too...lol....
HAHAHA Dawg, you gave me a good laugh with the pinched comment.

Reap. I second what the Dawg just said. Check my intro, I was a total irritable jerk too. Took a minute to realize. But when I did, it became easier.

You are doing it. Good work.
Glad to be quit with you today.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Dougie on October 17, 2013, 07:15:00 PM
Quote from: CaliforniaSlim
Quote from: ParadigmDawg
Quote from: Reaper
Day 3 of the quit:

Well last night was interesting to say the least.  The wife felt it was her civial duty to make my life hell yesterday for some damn reason.  when i got home from work it only esculated.  the craving for a dip was extreme or even a cigarette but after reading some of the post where these guys went so far and slipped up i said i cant let that happen no matter how hard the shit is.  the pressure went on and on even till this morning she is still on my ass but thank God for the man that invented sunflower seeds and flavored water. 

i am trying to ignore all the stress causing me to want the dip and finding ways to occupy that time by staying busy and now i have to take online courses for my job.  this is when the cravings are gonna kick in the most but i am sure that the nic bitch will not win.

thanks to all that have helped me and keep helping me by telling me what to expect.   i know that it will get worse before it gets better but i am confidient with all of your help i will beat this habits ass.
Dude, I thought my wife was doing the same thing but once my head was screwed on straight, I realized it was just how I was taking things. I was the total ass and she was the one I was blaming everything on. The way I was acting was tearing me up inside but I couldn't control it. I was only happy when I was way out in the woods, on my bike and alone.

I am so glad that those first 60 days are gone and my personality is back to normal. Just hang in the and it will get better.

Pinched will loan you money and that will make you feel better too...lol....
HAHAHA Dawg, you gave me a good laugh with the pinched comment.

Reap. I second what the Dawg just said. Check my intro, I was a total irritable jerk too. Took a minute to realize. But when I did, it became easier.

You are doing it. Good work.
Glad to be quit with you today.
Keep it up1
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Reaper on October 17, 2013, 11:02:00 PM
Your more right than you know. After doing some self evaluation and reflection on the fight i realized i was the one causing it. She lashed out at me due to her defending herself. Tonight is better but alot of tension in the air so i am trying to enjoy a movie for the first time nic free with water. My body is going WTF man. Hey i am always up for a loan i got some bills that could use some paying off.

Thanks for all the support and heads up on what to expect. i am in this for the long haul.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Mike from AB on October 18, 2013, 01:42:00 AM
Quote from: Reaper
Your more right than you know. After doing some self evaluation and reflection on the fight i realized i was the one causing it. She lashed out at me due to her defending herself. Tonight is better but alot of tension in the air so i am trying to enjoy a movie for the first time nic free with water. My body is going WTF man. Hey i am always up for a loan i got some bills that could use some paying off.

Thanks for all the support and heads up on what to expect. i am in this for the long haul.
Enjoy the movie! Your body will be doing the WTF for a bit but you got this.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Sgt12 on October 18, 2013, 07:19:00 AM
You're killing it, Reaper! Proud to be quit with you, brother.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Reaper on October 18, 2013, 08:21:00 AM
Day 4

Good movie last nigh (Pacific Rim) but let me tell you that was one of the hardest to get through. i am so used to having a dip and relaxing during a movie that the cravings hit hard. so i crabbed the bag of sunflower seeds and a big bottle of water and made myself calm down and enjoy my first movie Nic Free.

its the small things that make you feel the biggest accomplishments. i am starting to see the fog and feel the headaches and pains of the witdrawls finally. I feel this will be the begining of the Suck as some of you call it. Well here we go Embrace the Suck and kick its ass. Like i said before thank God for sunflower seeds and flavored water.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Pinched on October 18, 2013, 09:05:00 AM
Quote from: Reaper
Day 4

Good movie last nigh (Pacific Rim) but let me tell you that was one of the hardest to get through. i am so used to having a dip and relaxing during a movie that the cravings hit hard. so i crabbed the bag of sunflower seeds and a big bottle of water and made myself calm down and enjoy my first movie Nic Free.

its the small things that make you feel the biggest accomplishments. i am starting to see the fog and feel the headaches and pains of the witdrawls finally. I feel this will be the begining of the Suck as some of you call it. Well here we go Embrace the Suck and kick its ass. Like i said before thank God for sunflower seeds and flavored water.
While facing this period of your quit remember this simple acronym as it helped me tremendously.

Never
Again
For
Any
Reason

Kick her ass C-Bass!

Pinched
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: ParadigmDawg on October 18, 2013, 09:36:00 AM
Reaper,

Below is my timeline which I have posted a lot but some have found it useful. You have some fight in you and you can do this, just immerse yourself deep into this site and use your resources. You are just a few weeks away from things getting so much better. It will be a difficult few weeks but well worth it.

"3 days is something to be proud of. The nic is out of your system so it's all fun and games now...right? Well F...guess what? Your body is use to living with nic and now it's mad and is about to really fight you.

The good news is that you understand how to use your tools and you have some good fight in you. The better news is that it gets so much easier very quickly. Now, I realize that "quickly" is a very relative term- as when you are suffering minute to minute, 5 or 6 weeks seem like 100 years. In reality, 5 or 6 weeks is not a very long time.

Keep in mind, I am no expert and I am just going off of what I have experienced the past 89 days. My "suck scale" looked something like this:

Day 1-3: bad fog, my brain didn't work at all. Very little sleep and couldn't take a dump to save my life. I wanted a dip every second of each day.

Day 4-10: Pretty much out of the fog but bad, bad cravings and headache every second of the day

Day 11-14: My cruise control days, I didn't think about dipping much and craves were few and far between. Sleeping good but too much.

Day 15-21 Starting to get my energy level back up. Craves about 2-4 per day and short. The first thing every morning, I started to get an empty and sick feeling in my stomach when I thought about not being able to dip. Started losing my temper easily.

Day 22-25 No real changes, cruising along but feeling a little depressed. I started learning how to hate my addiction and was really mad about it.

Day 26- 30: Wow, I was starting to gain a lot of weight. Weird how I replaced Cope with Ice Cream and cake. I don't even eat sweets but here I am 10 lbs heavier. I don't care, I'm not dipping and the craves are mild.

Day 31-38: Freaking fog was back, some nasty craves and my temper way out of control. WTF!

Day 39-60: The roller coaster days. Mod craves followed by no craves, bad temper and mild depression. My temper has me very concerned, I have no control at all. A difficult time but I was not giving up at this point.

Day 61-73: The best days by far. Seldom think about dip, temper is way better, sleeping like a normal person and just feeling pretty darn good. I am stacking up these good days to recharge my batteries and prepare for the next round of fights".

Day 74- 89: Really good days. Strong cravings when I have too many drinks so I have been careful with drinking. Normal days are now 0-1 crave. My temper has been completely under control for almost 4 weeks now.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Reaper on October 18, 2013, 11:05:00 AM
Thanks Dawg that is excellent tips to help ke in my days to come. I have noticed that when im on the site there is a break in the fog and the cravings ease. I have also noticed the temper changing more and im learning to control it all over again this time without the assistance of the nic bitch.
that is gonna be a hard one conquer again.

thats right pinched im gonna kick this habits ass c bass.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Reaper on October 19, 2013, 01:10:00 AM
Day 5

Day 4 was a good one. i had a few cravings but was able to make it through by keeping myself busy and talking to the guys on here. i jumped in the live chat room and that is a awesome tool to keep yourself busy when your not doing anything else around the house.

Day 5 is gonna be a busy one. Just me and the kids and a lot of things to do from working in the yard to carving pumpkins to making a movie for the Korean War Vets to visiting a friend i havent seen in 17 years hopefully. So with a busy day i should not have any cravings but in the event i do i am well prepared.

You guys have taught me well i have my stash of seeds and in the event it gets extreme i have the good old Smokey Mountain to the rescue.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Reaper on October 19, 2013, 10:06:00 PM
Day 5 was a busy one and the cravings wasnt there but the headaches were. Couldn't sleep last night so all day kept myself busy to keep the mind off the cravings. Still hanging tough and fighting through the pains. its worth the fight I know now how rocky felt in most of his matches. the nic bitch keeps pounding in me but in the end I kick her ass.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Mike from AB on October 19, 2013, 10:28:00 PM
Quote from: Reaper
Day 5 was a busy one and the cravings wasnt there but the headaches were. Couldn't sleep last night so all day kept myself busy to keep the mind off the cravings. Still hanging tough and fighting through the pains. its worth the fight I know now how rocky felt in most of his matches. the nic bitch keeps pounding in me but in the end I kick her ass.
You're kickin it indeed! Hang tough, ODAAT! The headaches, sleep and pains will start to get normal/better.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Reaper on October 19, 2013, 10:31:00 PM
Quote from: Reaper
Day 5 was a busy one and the cravings wasnt there but the headaches were. Couldn't sleep last night so all day kept myself busy to keep the mind off the cravings. Still hanging tough and fighting through the pains. its worth the fight I know now how rocky felt in most of his matches. the nic bitch keeps pounding in me but in the end I kick her ass.
You're kickin it indeed! Hang tough, ODAAT! The headaches, sleep and pains will start to get normal/better.

thanks mike cant wait and I know my wife cant wait either keeping her up.at night watching tv or working in computer cause I cant sleep.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Punkin on October 19, 2013, 11:00:00 PM
Quote from: Reaper
Day 5 was a busy one and the cravings wasnt there but the headaches were. Couldn't sleep last night so all day kept myself busy to keep the mind off the cravings. Still hanging tough and fighting through the pains. its worth the fight I know now how rocky felt in most of his matches. the nic bitch keeps pounding in me but in the end I kick her ass.
Kickin ass and takin names!

I havent had any headaches but i can relate on the lack of sleep. It seems like weeks since Ive had a decent nights sleep. Being quit is worth all the sleepless nights.

Thanks for calling me yesterday, I enjoyed talking to you. Call anytime
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Reaper on October 19, 2013, 11:15:00 PM
Quote from: Reaper
Day 5 was a busy one and the cravings wasnt there but the headaches were.  Couldn't sleep last night so all day kept myself busy to keep the mind off the cravings.  Still hanging tough and fighting through the pains.  its worth the fight I know now how rocky felt in most of his matches.  the nic bitch keeps pounding in me but in the end I kick her ass.
Kickin ass and takin names!

I havent had any headaches but i can relate on the lack of sleep. It seems like weeks since Ive had a decent nights sleep. Being quit is worth all the sleepless nights.

Thanks for calling me yesterday, I enjoyed talking to you. Call anytime

Same here. i agree the sleepless night is worth the freedom of nicotine.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Grizzfall on October 20, 2013, 09:09:00 AM
Reaper,
For me this was the worst period of my quit. Days 4-8 were pure discomfort. You have this. The days get better and the fog goes away. Stay strong.
-neil
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: ParadigmDawg on October 20, 2013, 09:41:00 AM
Quote from: Grizzfall
Reaper,
For me this was the worst period of my quit. Days 4-8 were pure discomfort. You have this. The days get better and the fog goes away. Stay strong.
-neil
It kind of looks like you are following my timeline, can't you do anything your own way?...lol...

Look back at my day 4-10 and then look at what happened on day 11. Day 11 was like a switch was flipped and headaches were gone and I could sleep. I used day 11-30 to really recharge my batteries and prepare for the next fight.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Reaper on October 20, 2013, 02:33:00 PM
Day 6

Found a quick way to kill a craving. Was after church and didnt have any seeds and one of the guys there was giving my mom peppers so I tried one that is close to a hibenero pepper. Yep killed craving real quick and anything else I could think of.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Reaper on October 21, 2013, 09:08:00 AM
Day 7

have to attend a week long course for my job. it will be a death by power point for a solid week and I know that my cravings will kick into overdrive. I have gone this far without it and another week will be hard but that bitch is not gonna put her nicotine filled tits in my face this week and win I will best her ass at this one. thank you all for your stories as they continue to inspire me to push myself to accomplish my goals and be nic free for life.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Pinched on October 21, 2013, 09:52:00 AM
Quote from: Reaper
Day 7

have to attend a week long course for my job. it will be a death by power point for a solid week and I know that my cravings will kick into overdrive. I have gone this far without it and another week will be hard but that bitch is not gonna put her nicotine filled tits in my face this week and win I will best her ass at this one. thank you all for your stories as they continue to inspire me to push myself to accomplish my goals and be nic free for life.
Sunflower seeds like a mofo, I also recommend Dubble Bubble and Jolly Ranchers.

I will not wish you luck or say remain tough because you already have the drive...so just nut up and roll through it.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: ParadigmDawg on October 21, 2013, 10:18:00 AM
Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: Reaper
Day 7

have to attend a week long course for my job.  it will be a death by power point for a solid week and I know that my cravings will kick into overdrive.  I have gone this far without it and another week will be hard but that bitch is not gonna put her nicotine filled tits in my face this week and win I will best her ass at this one.  thank you all for your stories as they continue to inspire me to push myself to accomplish my goals and be nic free for life.
Sunflower seeds like a mofo, I also recommend Dubble Bubble and Jolly Ranchers.

I will not wish you luck or say remain tough because you already have the drive...so just nut up and roll through it.
Get some beef jerky too. It worked better than anything for me.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: CaliforniaSlim on October 21, 2013, 12:09:00 PM
Quote from: ParadigmDawg
Quote from: Pinched
Quote from: Reaper
Day 7

have to attend a week long course for my job.  it will be a death by power point for a solid week and I know that my cravings will kick into overdrive.   I have gone this far without it and another week will be hard but that bitch is not gonna put her nicotine filled tits in my face this week and win I will best her ass at this one.  thank you all for your stories as they continue to inspire me to push myself to accomplish my goals and be nic free for life.
Sunflower seeds like a mofo, I also recommend Dubble Bubble and Jolly Ranchers.

I will not wish you luck or say remain tough because you already have the drive...so just nut up and roll through it.
Get some beef jerky too. It worked better than anything for me.
You are showing a quitter's heart, brother. Just take the advice above and knock it out 1 day at a time. The week may sound bad, but today, just one day, is merely a pain in the ass. You have got this one.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Reaper on October 21, 2013, 01:05:00 PM
This is tough the instructor is kike the teacher off Ferris Buellers day off and the cravings are strong but like yall said nut up. Well I am doing that and cant eat in class so im chewing the shit out of gum. thank you all for the extra push.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: srans on October 21, 2013, 06:40:00 PM
Quote from: Reaper
This is tough the instructor is kike the teacher off Ferris Buellers day off and the cravings are strong but like yall said nut up. Well I am doing that and cant eat in class so im chewing the shit out of gum. thank you all for the extra push.
Throwing another idea at you. I go to gnc and buy mint oil. Then i make mint tooth picks. Works like a charm for driving and I'm sure it would help in your situation.

7 days is no joke. Your obviously determined and a man of your word. Keep laying the foundation. You will like how this quit comes together. Glad to be quit with you. Need another number let me know.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: AppleJack on October 21, 2013, 07:33:00 PM
Quote from: srans
Quote from: Reaper
This is tough the instructor is kike the teacher off Ferris Buellers day off and the cravings are strong but like yall said nut up.  Well I am doing that and cant eat in class so im chewing the shit out of gum.  thank you all for the extra push.
Throwing another idea at you. I go to gnc and buy mint oil. Then i make mint tooth picks. Works like a charm for driving and I'm sure it would help in your situation.

7 days is no joke. Your obviously determined and a man of your word. Keep laying the foundation. You will like how this quit comes together. Glad to be quit with you. Need another number let me know.

I do the same thing but use cinnamon oil for toothpicks. It gives a nice burn and I can chomp the hell out of 'em! Rock on m'brutha. You're doing great...
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Reaper on October 21, 2013, 08:22:00 PM
Thanks for the tooth pic ideas. I will definitely try that wyen I get to a gnc and get some. thanks for the support and if I can help anyone in any way let me know. Glad to be a member of such a great group of quitters.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Reaper on October 22, 2013, 11:15:00 PM
Day 8

Cravings begin to get stronger and here i thought i was passed the worst of it. with the help of junk food and water i was able to drive through it. i might have a few more cavities for the dentist to fix but at least my lip will still be intact. i get home from work and start looking into the site more to see we had some new members in the group and some that haven't made roll in a while. i spent the better part of an hour or so sending them all emails and encouraging them. that helped kill any cravings i had cause i feel i let them down especially the one that decided to leave the site. Hopefully he will stay in touch but we help all those we can and hope for the best.

Another day done and ready to move onto Day 9 and put a good old fashion ass woopin on it.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Pinched on October 23, 2013, 10:31:00 AM
Quote from: Reaper
Day 8

Cravings begin to get stronger and here i thought i was passed the worst of it. with the help of junk food and water i was able to drive through it. i might have a few more cavities for the dentist to fix but at least my lip will still be intact. i get home from work and start looking into the site more to see we had some new members in the group and some that haven't made roll in a while. i spent the better part of an hour or so sending them all emails and encouraging them. that helped kill any cravings i had cause i feel i let them down especially the one that decided to leave the site. Hopefully he will stay in touch but we help all those we can and hope for the best.

Another day done and ready to move onto Day 9 and put a good old fashion ass woopin on it.
Hell yeah!
'tough'
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: rickddd on October 23, 2013, 11:29:00 AM
Quote from: Reaper
Day 8

Cravings begin to get stronger and here i thought i was passed the worst of it. with the help of junk food and water i was able to drive through it. i might have a few more cavities for the dentist to fix but at least my lip will still be intact. i get home from work and start looking into the site more to see we had some new members in the group and some that haven't made roll in a while. i spent the better part of an hour or so sending them all emails and encouraging them. that helped kill any cravings i had cause i feel i let them down especially the one that decided to leave the site. Hopefully he will stay in touch but we help all those we can and hope for the best.

Another day done and ready to move onto Day 9 and put a good old fashion ass woopin on it.
Great work, Reaper!!! thats how its done, bro. Whatever it takes. And believe me, the tough times will be fewer and farther between, the more days you stay quit.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: CaliforniaSlim on October 23, 2013, 12:02:00 PM
Quote from: rickddd
Quote from: Reaper
Day 8

Cravings begin to get stronger and here i thought i was passed the worst of it.  with the help of junk food and water i was able to drive through it.  i might have a few more cavities for the dentist to fix but at least my lip will still be intact.  i get home from work and start looking into the site more to see we had some new members in the group and some that haven't made roll in a while.  i spent the better part of an hour or so sending them all emails and encouraging them.  that helped kill any cravings i had cause i feel i let them down especially the one that decided to leave the site.  Hopefully he will stay in touch but we help all those we can and hope for the best.

Another day done and ready to move onto Day 9 and put a good old fashion ass woopin on it.
Great work, Reaper!!! thats how its done, bro. Whatever it takes. And believe me, the tough times will be fewer and farther between, the more days you stay quit.
This looks like the beginning of a badass quit. Keep on doing what you are doing.
I had a similar experience when I first started reaching out to newer folks. Some of them vanished. Just know that you were trying to help, and they weren't ready for it. (I wrote about it in my intro if you care to see another take on it, and the responses I got.)
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Skoal Monster on October 23, 2013, 01:40:00 PM
Quote from: CaliforniaSlim
Quote from: rickddd
Quote from: Reaper
Day 8

Cravings begin to get stronger and here i thought i was passed the worst of it.  with the help of junk food and water i was able to drive through it.  i might have a few more cavities for the dentist to fix but at least my lip will still be intact.  i get home from work and start looking into the site more to see we had some new members in the group and some that haven't made roll in a while.  i spent the better part of an hour or so sending them all emails and encouraging them.  that helped kill any cravings i had cause i feel i let them down especially the one that decided to leave the site.  Hopefully he will stay in touch but we help all those we can and hope for the best.

Another day done and ready to move onto Day 9 and put a good old fashion ass woopin on it.
Great work, Reaper!!! thats how its done, bro. Whatever it takes. And believe me, the tough times will be fewer and farther between, the more days you stay quit.
This looks like the beginning of a badass quit. Keep on doing what you are doing.
I had a similar experience when I first started reaching out to newer folks. Some of them vanished. Just know that you were trying to help, and they weren't ready for it. (I wrote about it in my intro if you care to see another take on it, and the responses I got.)
Reaper, lay off the honey glazed bacon wrapped sugar bombs.

When you spike and crash your blood sugar you get craves. You need to maintain an even blood sugar, try sipping on pineapple juice or orange juice. Eat some protein for breakfast.

8 days of quit is awesome, but it doesn't undo years of damage, be patient. Your going to have up days and down days, it's gonna suck until it doesn't.

Exercise has been clinical proven to reduce both the intensity of craves and the frequency. Take a walk a few times a day, it will help.

Order some fake if you need it, my preference was oregon mint because it didn't really taste like dip but the cinnamon flavor had a little burn to it. Some guys like seeds better.

The only thing you need to worry about is how to keep yourself quit today. Whats your plan?

This is a link to a pdf of a book that I have reccommended to numerous others. It is called The easy way to quit smoking by Alan Carr. It is a pretty easy read and has some things in it that will help you tremendously.

http://media.wix.com/ugd/74fa87_2010cc5 ... 34a829.pdf (http://media.wix.com/ugd/74fa87_2010cc5496521431188f905b7234a829.pdf)
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: ParadigmDawg on October 23, 2013, 04:39:00 PM
Quote from: Reaper
Day 8

Cravings begin to get stronger and here i thought i was passed the worst of it.  with the help of junk food and water i was able to drive through it.  i might have a few more cavities for the dentist to fix but at least my lip will still be intact.  i get home from work and start looking into the site more to see we had some new members in the group and some that haven't made roll in a while.  i spent the better part of an hour or so sending them all emails and encouraging them.  that helped kill any cravings i had cause i feel i let them down especially the one that decided to leave the site.  Hopefully he will stay in touch but we help all those we can and hope for the best.

Another day done and ready to move onto Day 9 and put a good old fashion ass woopin on it.
Hey buddy,

I have become pretty good about telling who will make it and who won't. You my friend, will beat this thing.

You have some good fight in you and you stay really active on this board and those two things will lead to success.

I can't wait to see you in a few more weeks as you start having more good days and way less bad ones.

It freaks me out how much better I was after just 60 short days.

Day 61-73: The best days by far. Seldom think about dip, temper is way better, sleeping like a normal person and just feeling pretty darn good. I am stacking up these good days to recharge my batteries and prepare for the next round of fights".

Day 74- 85: Really good days. Strong cravings when I have too many drinks so I have been careful with drinking. Normal days are now 0-1 crave. My temper has been completely under control for 2 weeks now.

Day 86-94: Zero craves, zero dip dreams and temper under control. The strong craves when I drink are also gone. I am disgusted when I see someone dip. Proudly watching my group hit HOF one at a time; which is just how we quit, one day at a time. My guard is still held high as I know the fight is far from over.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Reaper on October 23, 2013, 10:27:00 PM
Day 9

i noticed the temper is flaring more than usual. i had a temper along time ago and it took some interesting events in Iraq to make me loose the temper and calm down. The only problem with that was i relied on the nicotine to keep me calm when stressed. I now instead of dipping or smoking i grab a stick of gum and a bottle of water or go beat the shit out of a punching bag. Either way i will get the temper back under control as well as the loss of nicotine.

I really appreciate all the support and the heads up on what to expect. Monster thanks for the advice about cutting back on some of the sugar thats a good idea and Dawg thanks for the heads up on what to expect in the days to come.

This site helps me stay focused on the control of winning the battle. if there is anything i can do to help you all in return please let me know. thanks.

Brandon XXX-XXX-XXXX
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Dougie on October 23, 2013, 10:34:00 PM
It took the first 70 days for me to figure out how to deal with the flares. Just try to keep it in front and recognize what it is.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: jake frawley on October 23, 2013, 11:26:00 PM
Quote from: Reaper
Day 9

i noticed the temper is flaring more than usual.  i had a temper along time ago and it took some interesting events in Iraq to make me loose the temper and calm down.  The only problem with that was i relied on the nicotine to keep me calm when stressed.  I now instead of dipping or smoking i grab a stick of gum and a bottle of water or go beat the shit out of a punching bag.  Either way i will get the temper back under control as well as the loss of nicotine.

I really appreciate all the support and the heads up on what to expect.  Monster thanks for the advice about cutting back on some of the sugar thats a good idea and Dawg thanks for the heads up on what to expect in the days to come. 

This site helps me stay focused on the control of winning the battle.  if there is anything i can do to help you all in return please let me know.  thanks.

Brandon XXX-XXX-XXXX
It can take awhile before you get over the "rage" stage but always remember why you are going through this! You are gaining your freedom and very soon you will open a door ( to quote Srans ) and realize that you are happy again and your new freedom is so much better then self medication with nicotine, and the anger settles down. We have tried to kill our bodies with this poison. It is only natural that the rewiring is uncomfortable. But so worth it! You are doing well and I am glad to see you bringing these thoughts to your intro. Always keep a record to look back on. Well done!

P.S. I love the willingness to put your self out there but try not to post your number on the public intros. It becomes fair game for trollers. I asked an Admin to X it out for you.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Reaper on October 23, 2013, 11:59:00 PM
Thanks Jake appreciate the looking out for me and the encouraging words
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: ParadigmDawg on October 25, 2013, 10:16:00 AM
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Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: ParadigmDawg on October 25, 2013, 10:17:00 AM
11 days in now. Day 11-30 were my cruise control days and everything got way easier. Hopefully you will get this same break as it is needed to help you recharge your batteries and get ready for a few more fights.

Even though these days were pretty darn easy for me, it's when my temper got way out of control so be careful on that part. I don't have any good advice for the temper issue as I didn't do well on that part. All I really could do was just tell people how sorry I once I got my head screwed back on correctly.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: rickddd on October 25, 2013, 10:25:00 AM
Nic rages can be tough, Reaper. Every single qutter gets them, I think its your body/mind learning to deal with stress, without being drugged up by nicotine.

Some are just unavoidable, but try to come on this site and take out your rage on us - or get out of the house and go for a run, or the gym lifting weights can really relieve stress and anxiety.

The main thing is that you start recognizing them as they are starting up, so you can catch it before you punch something/somebody, and find a healthy way to let it out or control it.

They do start to decrease as you learn to catch them, and they become less intense and easier to control, the farther you get into your quit. At least for me, thats how it worked.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Reaper on October 25, 2013, 01:33:00 PM
Day 11

Day 10 wasnt to bad the temper i was able to keep at bay by keeping to myself most of the day. All in all it was a good day unitl... i went to sleep. then the vivid dreams kicked in of having a dip at a party. Even though it was a dream it seemed real. Today is going ok the cravings have eased up for now. Rick and Dawg thanks for the advice it is good to know that i might be in a week to where i can recharge but i also know like everything else when things become easy for you the temptation will grow more.

I will stay true to my word and i will get back on the site more. i have been in classes all week for the Army and havent been able to talk as much as i would like. thank you all for the ongoing support and advice in my quit.

Brandon
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Erussell on October 26, 2013, 08:32:00 AM
Quote from: Reaper
Day 11

Day 10 wasnt to bad the temper i was able to keep at bay by keeping to myself most of the day. All in all it was a good day unitl... i went to sleep. then the vivid dreams kicked in of having a dip at a party. Even though it was a dream it seemed real. Today is going ok the cravings have eased up for now. Rick and Dawg thanks for the advice it is good to know that i might be in a week to where i can recharge but i also know like everything else when things become easy for you the temptation will grow more.

I will stay true to my word and i will get back on the site more. i have been in classes all week for the Army and havent been able to talk as much as i would like. thank you all for the ongoing support and advice in my quit.

Brandon
Yea the dip dreams can be a real bitch, i have woke up pissed off at myself many times in a cold sweat thinking i had caved. But they are a great reminder of how caving would make you feel, horrible. I went back and read your thread, You really seem to get this site and how we quit. Keep adding those +1's ODAAT. I quit with you erussell day 180.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Reaper on October 27, 2013, 12:41:00 AM
Thanks russell your right ODAAT.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: srans on October 27, 2013, 08:40:00 AM
Quote from: Erussell
Quote from: Reaper
Day 11

Day 10 wasnt to bad the temper i was able to keep at bay by keeping to myself most of the day.  All in all it was a good day unitl... i went to sleep.  then the vivid dreams kicked in of having a dip at a party.  Even though it was a dream it seemed real.  Today is going ok the cravings have eased up for now.  Rick and Dawg thanks for the advice it is good to know that i might be in a week to where i can recharge but i also know like everything else when things become easy for you the temptation will grow more. 

I will stay true to my word and i will get back on the site more.  i have been in classes all week for the Army and havent been able to talk as much as i would like.  thank you all for the ongoing support and advice in my quit.

Brandon
Yea the dip dreams can be a real bitch, i have woke up pissed off at myself many times in a cold sweat thinking i had caved. But they are a great reminder of how caving would make you feel, horrible. I went back and read your thread, You really seem to get this site and how we quit. Keep adding those +1's ODAAT. I quit with you erussell day 180.
Great job on your quit. Speaking of dip dreams. Me and this guy ^^^ ( the erussell) met during the summer. I found out he was not far from me while vacationing. I highly recommend meeting a fellow quitter anytime it's possible. Meeting this guy was one the highlights in my quit.

The day before our meet I had the craziest dream. We met for breakfast and erussell brought a can. We had are breakfast, eddie pulls out the can. I didn't take much persuading and me and him were dipping our brains out. What a effin dream I tell you!! During the dream we discussed how this would be just between us. WTF!!! Never in a million years would either of us contemplate this!!! This dream was out of the world.

Well of course we met and had great conversation. I Learned a lot about this guy and I can tell you, his integrity, drive and determination was through the roof. There was no can,, only two quitters keeping their word. We talked about our addiction and life. After breakfast both of our quits were stronger than ever. I have a friend for life and there is no way I can ever tell eddie I've caved. He made my quit stronger that day.

Still, to this day that's the craziest dip dream I've ever had. I still have them once in a while, but they just mean I'm still quit. Quit with you today.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Reaper on October 28, 2013, 01:04:00 PM
Day 14

Yesterday I had to repair my porch the steps decided that they wanted to fall through. Normally I would throw a dip in and rage about how am I a gonna get this fixed but this time was way different. this time I drove the 40 miles to the closest Lowes got some supplies and went to work. Now lets get something straight I am a UAV Pilot for the Army and I am not a carpenter at all but what happened next was awesome.

I got back with all the supplies and got my tools and went to work before I knew it I had rebuilt a whole new set of stairs hand rails and added unique touches to it all that I didn't know I could do. All of this was done NIC FREE and I had a lot clearer mind set and I was so busy I didn't have time to crave a dip. Hell I didn't even get frustrated when something didn't look right I just stepped back thought for a second and tried something else until it worked out.

I can feel the clearer thoughts that I haven't felt in years. My mind is not clouded because of if I get frustrated I would do what it took to find a dip and felt that it would make it all better but in reality I am thinking and acting a lot better without it. The first half of my life was nicotine driven and now I am planning on living the rest NIC Free. No screw that not planning I am going to live the rest of my life NIC Free.

Its a awesome feeling being free of that Bitch and able to think for myself for the first time in 17 years with out the aid of nicotine.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Skoal Monster on October 28, 2013, 02:48:00 PM
Quote from: Reaper
Day 14

Yesterday I had to repair my porch the steps decided that they wanted to fall through. Normally I would throw a dip in and rage about how am I a gonna get this fixed but this time was way different. this time I drove the 40 miles to the closest Lowes got some supplies and went to work. Now lets get something straight I am a UAV Pilot for the Army and I am not a carpenter at all but what happened next was awesome.

I got back with all the supplies and got my tools and went to work before I knew it I had rebuilt a whole new set of stairs hand rails and added unique touches to it all that I didn't know I could do. All of this was done NIC FREE and I had a lot clearer mind set and I was so busy I didn't have time to crave a dip. Hell I didn't even get frustrated when something didn't look right I just stepped back thought for a second and tried something else until it worked out.

I can feel the clearer thoughts that I haven't felt in years. My mind is not clouded because of if I get frustrated I would do what it took to find a dip and felt that it would make it all better but in reality I am thinking and acting a lot better without it. The first half of my life was nicotine driven and now I am planning on living the rest NIC Free. No screw that not planning I am going to live the rest of my life NIC Free.

Its a awesome feeling being free of that Bitch and able to think for myself for the first time in 17 years with out the aid of nicotine.
great post Reaper.. and congrats on getting a little taste of freedom. It still gets so much better.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Grizzfall on November 03, 2013, 09:17:00 AM
Quote from: Skoal
Quote from: Reaper
Day 14

Yesterday I had to repair my porch the steps decided that they wanted to fall through.  Normally I would throw a dip in and rage about how am I a gonna get this fixed but this time was way different.  this time I drove the 40 miles to the closest Lowes got some supplies and went to work.  Now lets get something straight I am a UAV Pilot for the Army and I am not a carpenter at all but what happened next was awesome.

I got back with all the supplies and got my tools and went to work before I knew it I had rebuilt a whole new set of stairs hand rails and added unique touches to it all that I didn't know I could do.  All of this was done NIC FREE and I had a lot clearer mind set and I was so busy I didn't have time to crave a dip.  Hell I didn't even get frustrated when something didn't look right I just stepped back thought for a second and tried something else until it worked out. 

I can feel the clearer thoughts that I haven't felt in years.  My mind is not clouded because of if I get frustrated I would do what it took to find a dip and felt that it would make it all better but in reality I am thinking and acting a lot better without it.  The first half of my life was nicotine driven and now I am planning on living the rest NIC Free.  No screw that not planning I am going to live the rest of my life NIC Free. 

Its a awesome feeling being free of that Bitch and able to think for myself for the first time in 17 years with out the aid of nicotine.
great post Reaper.. and congrats on getting a little taste of freedom. It still gets so much better.
Reaper,
I build for a living and the fear of not being able to perform without dip was huge. For the first two weeks i felt like i was moving in slow mode and not hitting my targets for the day. Looking back i think i was running around in a manic state but my head was still in time warp. Life continues to become clearer each day, now 4 weeks in. Im glad you are feeling it too. Going through the day without having to reach for the tin everytime a challange pops up is freedom.
Keep quit,
Grizzfall
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Its_Got2Happen on November 03, 2013, 08:05:00 PM
Quote from: Grizzfall
Quote from: Skoal
Quote from: Reaper
Day 14

Yesterday I had to repair my porch the steps decided that they wanted to fall through.  Normally I would throw a dip in and rage about how am I a gonna get this fixed but this time was way different.  this time I drove the 40 miles to the closest Lowes got some supplies and went to work.  Now lets get something straight I am a UAV Pilot for the Army and I am not a carpenter at all but what happened next was awesome.

I got back with all the supplies and got my tools and went to work before I knew it I had rebuilt a whole new set of stairs hand rails and added unique touches to it all that I didn't know I could do.  All of this was done NIC FREE and I had a lot clearer mind set and I was so busy I didn't have time to crave a dip.  Hell I didn't even get frustrated when something didn't look right I just stepped back thought for a second and tried something else until it worked out. 

I can feel the clearer thoughts that I haven't felt in years.  My mind is not clouded because of if I get frustrated I would do what it took to find a dip and felt that it would make it all better but in reality I am thinking and acting a lot better without it.  The first half of my life was nicotine driven and now I am planning on living the rest NIC Free.  No screw that not planning I am going to live the rest of my life NIC Free. 

Its a awesome feeling being free of that Bitch and able to think for myself for the first time in 17 years with out the aid of nicotine.
great post Reaper.. and congrats on getting a little taste of freedom. It still gets so much better.
Reaper,
I build for a living and the fear of not being able to perform without dip was huge. For the first two weeks i felt like i was moving in slow mode and not hitting my targets for the day. Looking back i think i was running around in a manic state but my head was still in time warp. Life continues to become clearer each day, now 4 weeks in. Im glad you are feeling it too. Going through the day without having to reach for the tin everytime a challange pops up is freedom.
Keep quit,
Grizzfall
This little thread just made my night. Thank you gentlemen. I love a casual reminder of what freedom means. It is great to watch you guys win. Quit on.

Ryan
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Reaper on November 05, 2013, 12:27:00 AM
day 21 done. it has been both good and bad since my last post. my mind has been cleared without the nic bitch ruling it but with that has come alot more of stress thrown at me.. but I remain vigilant in my quest for the ultimate freedom and I thank you all for standing by my side when I needed you all. it is amazing how when you quit how the slightest things you notice. like seeing someone with a fat lip spitting on the ground in public or the smell of someone after they smoked a cigarette how it makes you feel disgusted and all the while your doing the ding dong the bitch is dead dance.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Punkin on November 05, 2013, 03:00:00 AM
Quote from: Reaper
day 21 done. it has been both good and bad since my last post. my mind has been cleared without the nic bitch ruling it but with that has come alot more of stress thrown at me.. but I remain vigilant in my quest for the ultimate freedom and I thank you all for standing by my side when I needed you all. it is amazing how when you quit how the slightest things you notice. like seeing someone with a fat lip spitting on the ground in public or the smell of someone after they smoked a cigarette how it makes you feel disgusted and all the while your doing the ding dong the bitch is dead dance.
Proud to be quitting with you Bro. Keep on keepin on
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: ParadigmDawg on November 05, 2013, 09:29:00 AM
22 days...way to go!!!!

You should have more good days coming.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Reaper on January 02, 2014, 09:30:00 AM
days 22-80 I havent been as active on the site as I should have been. but I will tell you this these were some of the most trying days of my life. between loosing friends and going to funerals and the constant stress and amount of training the job has put on me I have barely had any time for myself but one thing remained constant and that was no matter how bad it got I was not going to let my fellow killers down and cave in. These were by far the hardest times but you all kept me going by simple text of encouragement and posting roll everyday helped keep me reminded of my pledge to you all and myself. That fog and dreams wasnt no punk that shit was thick son I didnt really know what yall were talking about at first but now I do. thank you all for the support and congratulations to all on your HOF. 20 more days and ill be there to.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: srans on January 02, 2014, 09:56:00 AM
Quote from: Reaper
days 22-80 I havent been as active on the site as I should have been.  but I will tell you this these were some of the most trying days of my life.  between loosing friends and going to funerals and the constant stress and amount of training the job has put on me I have barely had any time for myself but one thing remained constant and that was no matter how bad it got I was not going to let my fellow killers down and cave in.  These were by far the hardest times but you all kept me going by simple text of encouragement and posting roll everyday helped keep me reminded of my pledge to you all and myself.  That fog and dreams wasnt no punk that shit was thick son I didnt really know what yall were talking about at first but now I do.  thank you all for the support and congratulations to all on your HOF. 20 more days and ill be there to.
Hof will be an accomplishment my friend, but it sounds to me like 80 is a real good number also. It sounds like you've been through a lot and have come through. That's 80 of days pure quit. I'll take that 80 any day that ends with a y. Great job.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Derk40 on January 02, 2014, 10:13:00 AM
Quote from: srans
Quote from: Reaper
days 22-80 I havent been as active on the site as I should have been.  but I will tell you this these were some of the most trying days of my life.  between loosing friends and going to funerals and the constant stress and amount of training the job has put on me I have barely had any time for myself but one thing remained constant and that was no matter how bad it got I was not going to let my fellow killers down and cave in.  These were by far the hardest times but you all kept me going by simple text of encouragement and posting roll everyday helped keep me reminded of my pledge to you all and myself.  That fog and dreams wasnt no punk that shit was thick son I didnt really know what yall were talking about at first but now I do.  thank you all for the support and congratulations to all on your HOF. 20 more days and ill be there to.
Hof will be an accomplishment my friend, but it sounds to me like 80 is a real good number also. It sounds like you've been through a lot and have come through. That's 80 of days pure quit. I'll take that 80 any day that ends with a y. Great job.
Being quit today is the accomplishment! ODAAT!! You have done that 80 days in a row. That is great bro!

Remember that it don't matter if you are 1, 10, 80, 100, or 1000 days quit --- you still got to own today! We are all a bad decision today from flushing our good battle down the crapper.

Celebrate the milestones because it shows you what you have accomplished. But in the end, it is all about being quit TODAY. I am quit with you all day long.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: ParadigmDawg on January 02, 2014, 10:20:00 AM
Strong quit brother
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Reaper on January 02, 2014, 12:16:00 PM
thank you all for the encouragement. I agree we can have 100 days quit and one had decision will throw all that down the crapper. ODAAT is the best motto a quitter can ever have. we own today cause who knows what tomorrow holds so in this war of us vs nic bitch we fight ODAAT as if it is our last. proud to fight along side all of you brave and noble quitters.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: jzzyzag01 on January 02, 2014, 12:28:00 PM
Quote from: Reaper
thank you all for the encouragement. I agree we can have 100 days quit and one had decision will throw all that down the crapper. ODAAT is the best motto a quitter can ever have. we own today cause who knows what tomorrow holds so in this war of us vs nic bitch we fight ODAAT as if it is our last. proud to fight along side all of you brave and noble quitters.
Keep on keepin on Reaper. Sounds like you've got a good thing going. Remember dip doesn't solve problems: 1 problem + a dip = 2 problems. That's about all the math I can do, but it makes sense to me. ODAAT, quit with you today brother.
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Ron_Cross on January 23, 2014, 12:08:00 AM
Reaper - We head over to Sieper Louisiana to pick up our next quitter, Reaper. This married UAV pilot dude with 2 kids started dipping when he was 18. I did the math and I think that means he dipped somewhere in the 19 year range. His dip of choice was Copenhagen WG Long Cut (saw me a can of that on the side of the road the other day, was even in date). In the true Cajun spirit, he is bringing beer and fried up alligator parts on the train with him. He says to contact Punkin if anything happens. Ok so he wouldnÂ’t have put these little diddies in here if he didnÂ’t think they were safe to mention, so here goesÂ… He is going to drive buck naked on a 4 wheeler in the woods to celebrate his 100 days. I mean talkin bout goinÂ’ ballistic, that couldnÂ’t be crazier than the sex on the roof of the McDÂ’s in Japan with the Japanese chick during the fireworks extravaganza for New YearsÂ….Close thoughÂ…(Pics or weÂ’re callinÂ’ BS!!)

Reaper’s wisdom is to the point: “ODAAT and use this site.. it helps to have these guys to talk to during hard times.” He feels Punkin helped him the most during their marathon texting sessions, but he also felt that Punkin was one of the scariest quitters out here among good company with Evil_Won and Sportster4ever… His favorite avatars are everything of a bouncy, mammary nature, and he will definitely be back to observe them everyday for the next 100 days! We welcome you Reaper onto the train of all trains today!!! The Killa Express rolls on down the rail to upper stratosphere to pick up our next quitter tomorrow in Motown!!!
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: Punkin on January 23, 2014, 12:39:00 AM
Im proud of you bro. I knew you could do it. Thanks for quitting with me. On to 200!
Title: Re: DAY 1
Post by: ParadigmDawg on January 23, 2014, 10:26:00 AM
I told you he would make it!

Congrats brother!!!!!!