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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: BamaHutch on August 22, 2013, 05:02:00 PM
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Recently turned 40. Proud father of 4. I've had a can a day habit for the better part of the last 25 or so years. That's right, over 25 years of this. It has controlled my life. If I'm not eating, drinking or sleeping I've got a dip. Scared to death about what might be going on health wise and I'm ashamed that my kids have never seen a day where I wasn't spitting in a bottle, cup or on the ground. Oldest son is now 15 and he knows kids in school that are now dipping. Tired of people walking up to my desk seeing my nasty spit bottle.
I quit for about a year back in '95 using the fake stuff, so I'm gonna give that another shot. Picked up 2 cans of Smokey Mountain this afternoon.
HUTCH
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...habit...
...another shot...
First, this isn't a habit. It's an addiction. You don't get physical withdrawal symptoms when you quit biting your fingernails.
Second, just giving it a "shot" means you have not eliminated the possibility of choosing to ingest nicotine again. We don't "try" here. We quit.
The words we use are very important to our mindset and our mental toughness. As you know, quitting is hard. Make the decision that you are quit and that you will post your word as a man here daily and then keep your word.
Welcome to the site. Yell if you need anything.
PS - Your name just reminded me of the baddest ass bike ever made..........
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Thanks for calling me out on some of the words I chose. You are absolutely correct. I have been an addict for over 25 years. I am not just going to give this a shot. I have got to do this.
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Thanks for calling me out on some of the words I chose. You are absolutely correct. I have been an addict for over 25 years. I am not just going to give this a shot. I have got to do this.
Then you'll do it. We can help.
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Are you quit right now? If so, congrats on a great choice. If not, what are you waiting for?
We post roll in quit groups. You will be in the November quit group, meaning you will hit 100 days quit in the month of November. Go to the top left of this page and click on the WELCOME CENTER to find out what we do and why. Navigate this site. Read everything you can. Get to know the folks in your quit group. Get phone numbers. This is a support group, and people can only help if you let them. Thousands of folks on this site are chomping at the bit to help you out.
You have every reason to quit and zero reasons to continue using. I quit with you today, this hour, this minute.
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Recently turned 40. Proud father of 4. I've had a can a day habit for the better part of the last 25 or so years. That's right, over 25 years of this. It has controlled my life. If I'm not eating, drinking or sleeping I've got a dip. Scared to death about what might be going on health wise and I'm ashamed that my kids have never seen a day where I wasn't spitting in a bottle, cup or on the ground. Oldest son is now 15 and he knows kids in school that are now dipping. Tired of people walking up to my desk seeing my nasty spit bottle.
I quit for about a year back in '95 using the fake stuff, so I'm gonna give that another shot. Picked up 2 cans of Smokey Mountain this afternoon.
HUTCH
Welcome Hutch! Glad you finally decided to quit. I was also a dipper for almost 30 damn years. Way too long for both of us.
Since you've failed at quitting before, you already know what to expect in the early days - this is to your advantage. You've got your fake chew, thats great. Now dump all your cans of 'real' dip into the toilet and flush it. If a half-full can is sitting in your garbage can, you'll be tempted to dumpster dive in a moment of weakness. Get rid of it all, completely. COMMIT to quitting, and you will quit.
Here at KTC we quit one day at a time. Thats the only way to do it, because "forever" is much too hard in a moment of weakness, and can kill your quit. So dont quit forever, just quit for today. Figure out how to post roll in your group. Quitting today puts you in the November 2013 group (thats when you'll hit the Hall of Fame, 100 days quit).
This link should help you figure it out:
index.php?showtopic=50 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=50)
Then come on here every morning and post roll, which is your promise to your group to not use nicotine of any form for that day. Send a private message to some folks in your November group, and exchange phone numbers with them, and text/call them for support. If I can do anything to help you get started or anything else, just send me a private message.
Glad to quit with you today!
Rick
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The can of Timberwolf just hit the trash can. Didn't throw it in mine. Don't want it anywhere close to me. Can't tell you how good it feels to see these posts of support.
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I just sent you a PM. Look up at the top right of the screen see "inbox (1)." Click that and see what level of accountability you want. By posting an intro that is nice but when times get tough what are your plans? Hide in a closet? Roll down to Ammish's citgo and see if he carries SMC? The weekend is approaching. Yard work. Cookouts. Kids making you crazy. Too many beers. The usual triggers.
Read up and down this site. We are all addicts. Get to know folks. It is pretty obvious which folks in November you want to run with. They have some badass quitters in there.
We concentrate on one day at a time. More like one minute if you are day 1. Quittin is so much fun we get up post roll, keep our promise and do it all again the next day.
Use the Live Chat anytime for immediate help. It has saved many people on here.
I quit today with a Bamm
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I'll dig around and figure out how to post roll tomorrow. I had the vile stuff in my mouth earlier today. Gotta go to a football game and a football practice tonight. Will probably go through 2 cans of the fake stuff but I can do this.
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I'll dig around and figure out how to post roll tomorrow. I had the vile stuff in my mouth earlier today. Gotta go to a football game and a football practice tonight. Will probably go through 2 cans of the fake stuff but I can do this.
I'll be looking for your roll post in the morning. If you quit today, then you will be posting day 2 in the morning.
You got this. It takes balls, but you can absolutely do it.
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Are you quit?
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Hey bud looking like you need to check out nov13 divers and start posting about taking your life back with us. No games here only quitting. One day at a time. Post roll. Get connected. Reach out to others. Read the intros and HOF speeches. In time your head will clear and you'll see the immense possibilty of life without a mouth full of black dog shit. We can do this thing together. Come with us.
Peace.
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I'll dig around and figure out how to post roll tomorrow. I had the vile stuff in my mouth earlier today. Gotta go to a football game and a football practice tonight. Will probably go through 2 cans of the fake stuff but I can do this.
All the best to you joining our November group. I can't believe the great support everybody here offers right from the very start but everybody's gone through it.
You can do this for sure! No harm in going through the fake stuff, yes I'm surprised at how much of it you can go through trying to get what you're used to out of the real stuff. Great tool though to keep a guy on track, provided it's not an invitation to backtrack. You know yourself that way for sure.
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8 or so hours since my last dip. That's so big for me.
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8 or so hours since my last dip. That's so big for me.
Have you posted roll?
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Yeah, I posted roll this morning. Did it wrong cause I was in a hurry trying to do it on my phone. I think I know what to do when I post tomorrow without F-ing it up.
18 hours and counting.
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Yeah, I posted roll this morning. Did it wrong cause I was in a hurry trying to do it on my phone. I think I know what to do when I post tomorrow without F-ing it up.Â
18 hours and counting.
Screwing up roll call is completely normal early on. Jacked up format plus the "fog" makes roll almost impossible at first. I actually think it's a tool to weed out the weak one's. If you can figure out roll call then you can quit dipping.
If you read through the other intro's you may see some of my same words on them but they always hold true so I will just repeat them...
You are in for one nasty fight but you have the tools here to make it.
Read everything on here, post roll call each morning and don't dip. Wow....that sounds so easy, doesn't it?
Go load yourself up with gum, mints, fake chew, seeds and beef jerky. Also get some member phone numbers right now, they will help you through the rough parts.
Next, exercise to exhaustion every single day and drink so much water that you feel like you may bust. Both of these will help.
Make sure your wife reads about what you are going through. 99% chance that you are going to be a short fussed dick for the next 3-4 weeks. Try not to take it out on her and the kids. Get on here and take it out on us, we will be fine.
I quit with you.
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Congrats on posting Day1. That is a big freaking deal. I was a :ph43r: dipper for 19 years. Girls I dated didn't know. My wife didn't know. MY kids did though they can't leave me (right?). I stopped for over 180days and caved. Since my wife didn't know she didn't know I caved.
Fast forward to today. I told my wife on day 2 EVERYTHING. I told her how I dipped a can a day without her knowing. Really pathetic. She gave me a high five this morning because she knows I am posting day 80. My wife is my biggest supporter and fan. I am accountable to her first then you ass clowns.
Keep on posting roll. Holla if you need to vent or whatever.
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Feel good about today. Tomorrow will be a different bitch. Wearing out the fake chew. Oh, BTW, do I use this forum (Introductions) for random posting, or do I need to use my November group forum?
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Feel good about today. Tomorrow will be a different bitch. Wearing out the fake chew. Oh, BTW, do I use this forum (Introductions) for random posting, or do I need to use my November group forum?
Bama - I see you posted roll, great! but day 1 is wrong I think - If you made the decision to quit yesterday, and threw your cans away yesterday, then that was day 1. Today is day 2 for you.
To answer your question - use either thread. if you want feedback from your group, or have something to share with your group, use the November thread. If you want to be able to easily look back and see what you were thinking during various stages of your quit, put it here.
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I made today my day 1 cause I had dipped all day yesterday up until the early afternoon.
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I made today my day 1 cause I had dipped all day yesterday up until the early afternoon.
Rick is correct. Day 1 is the day you decided to quit and trashed your stash.
If you feel this is day 2 because of not really making a commitment then your correct. Today is 2.
Either way you are one bad ass for taking your life back bro. 1 day, 2 days, the important thing is you are quit today.
Keep on keepen on.
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I made today my day 1 cause I had dipped all day yesterday up until the early afternoon.
It was still your day 1. I spit out my last dip at about noon on my day 1. Thats just how it is counted on KTC. But not a big deal, whatever you feel comfortable with - its your quit, bro.
How are you doing so far? got the withdrawals, the headache, etc?
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I'm feeling ok. Last night wasn't too bad. As much as I did dip everyday, there was the occasion where I couldn't do it for whatever reason, so my body was like, ok - no biggie. No issues sleeping (thanks ambien and bud light)
Not getting that 1st dip after my coffee this morning sucked, but I was busy, so I made it.
About an hour ago, I could feel my body start going something like "ok, something ain't right". LOL
No headaches. Feel a little nervy, but not too bad. Having trouble focusing on work, so doubt I'm very productive today.
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I'm feeling ok. Last night wasn't too bad. As much as I did dip everyday, there was the occasion where I couldn't do it for whatever reason, so my body was like, ok - no biggie. No issues sleeping (thanks ambien and bud light)
Not getting that 1st dip after my coffee this morning sucked, but I was busy, so I made it.
About an hour ago, I could feel my body start going something like "ok, something ain't right". LOL
No headaches. Feel a little nervy, but not too bad. Having trouble focusing on work, so doubt I'm very productive today.
It gets better bama. I promise you that. It might get worse before it gets better, but it is SO worth it.
Just quit an hour at a time. Tell yourself that YOU CAN and WILL do this. Stay in contact with the website and reach out to people if you feel that you need to. There are two types of people on this site. Those that swallow their pride and ask for help (and succeed at quitting) and those that allow their ego to take over (and end up failing).
I'm quit with you today.
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I'm feeling ok. Last night wasn't too bad. As much as I did dip everyday, there was the occasion where I couldn't do it for whatever reason, so my body was like, ok - no biggie. No issues sleeping (thanks ambien and bud light)
Not getting that 1st dip after my coffee this morning sucked, but I was busy, so I made it.
About an hour ago, I could feel my body start going something like "ok, something ain't right". LOL
No headaches. Feel a little nervy, but not too bad. Having trouble focusing on work, so doubt I'm very productive today.
It gets better bama. I promise you that. It might get worse before it gets better, but it is SO worth it.
Just quit an hour at a time. Tell yourself that YOU CAN and WILL do this. Stay in contact with the website and reach out to people if you feel that you need to. There are two types of people on this site. Those that swallow their pride and ask for help (and succeed at quitting) and those that allow their ego to take over (and end up failing).
I'm quit with you today.
Wedge is right, listen to him. and you are right about work, you might have a few unproductive days for a while... when the foggy brain hits, its tough to concentrate on anything. Just remember its a normal part of quitting, your brain is rewiring itself to work without its usual drug supply of nicotine.
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My body is freaking the hell out. LOL. I have worked for the same company for the last 20 years. Like most of you I'm sure, I dipped ALL DAY LONG. Finish my coffee....Get a dip and suck on it for at least an hour. Take a break, eat a snack....Get a dip and suck on it for about 2 hours. Eat lunch.....Get a dip and suck on it for about 2 hours. Take a break, eat a snack....Get a dip and suck on it for about 2 hours. And so on...
An example of how this little green can controlled me. I'd get a meeting notification on my email and the FIRST thing that popped in my head was "OK, how is this going to affect my dipping?" I would come in early to make sure I got my required dipping time. I'd take an early lunch if I had an afternoon meeting so I could enjoy that "after eating" dip.
I just dropped an F-bomb on my boss over the phone. Guess I should tell him that I've almost made it 24 hours.
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Tell your boss, tell everybody. You're doing something heroic here...saving a life. You do whatever you have to do to stay quit. The Tom and Jenny Kern story is a must-read if you haven't done so already.
As for your body freeking out...embrace it. That is the feeling of recovery. Think of it this way...you GET to feel this shitty because you CHOSE to quit. Quitting is a privilege reserved to those who have the guts to do it. There are no short-cuts and nobody can do this for you. It doesn't matter who you daddy is or how much money you have. If you want to be free, you must earn it. And it sure as shit sounds like you're earning today!!! Congrats, brother!!!
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I just bumped Grizzly Addicts intro. I suggest start reading with the very first intro he did and see how its done.
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I know that each and every day will be unique and have it own little challenges. Tomorrow is gonna be a bitch, I already know it. But I also know (regardless of how my body is freaking out today) that I've got this beat TODAY. I made that promise this morning.
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You are kicking ass today, bama - keep it up bro! we're all quit with you today.
and Bean, this:Quitting is a privilege reserved to those who have the guts to do it. There are no short-cuts and nobody can do this for you. It doesn't matter who you daddy is or how much money you have. If you want to be free, you must earn it.
was freaking beautiful man! I might put some of that in my sig, with your permission of course...
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It's kind of funny actually. While she IS making me all dizzy and foggy, I'm laughing in the back of my mind knowing that the reason I feel this way is because I've finally taken control. I still look like a dumbass spitting this fake chew in a plastic bottle, but I'll get there.
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Use all or any part of what I say...might want to edit it and improve it first.
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Tell your boss, tell everybody. You're doing something heroic here...saving a life. You do whatever you have to do to stay quit. The Tom and Jenny Kern story is a must-read if you haven't done so already.
As for your body freeking out...embrace it. That is the feeling of recovery. Think of it this way...you GET to feel this shitty because you CHOSE to quit. Quitting is a privilege reserved to those who have the guts to do it. There are no short-cuts and nobody can do this for you. It doesn't matter who you daddy is or how much money you have. If you want to be free, you must earn it. And it sure as shit sounds like you're earning today!!! Congrats, brother!!!
This is a great way of saying things, thanks!
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Tonight was a bitch. A stressed day at work, football practice, pulled pork and bud lights make me want a £%?*^#¥? dip!!!!!!!!!!
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Tonight was a bitch. A stressed day at work, football practice, pulled pork and bud lights make me want a £%?*^#¥? dip!!!!!!!!!!
You didn't want a dip, the Nic Bitch tried to tell you that you needed one and you told her to F-off...
You are getting close to the point that the nicotine is out of your system which is good. The bad part is that fact that your body is used to working with nicotine in it- so it's about to really fight you. Day 4-7 was the hardest for me so get ready to strap them on and fight.
The good news is the fact that you are a man of your word and you promised a lot of people that you will never dip again. Use the tools available to you the next several days.
This all gets better really quickly. I felt 99% better at 30 days and my craves are just little nagging one's for the most part now.
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Tonight was a bitch. A stressed day at work, football practice, pulled pork and bud lights make me want a £%?*^#¥? dip!!!!!!!!!!
You didn't want a dip, the Nic Bitch tried to tell you that you needed one and you told her to F-off...
You are getting close to the point that the nicotine is out of your system which is good. The bad part is that fact that your body is used to working with nicotine in it- so it's about to really fight you. Day 4-7 was the hardest for me so get ready to strap them on and fight.
The good news is the fact that you are a man of your word and you promised a lot of people that you will never dip again. Use the tools available to you the next several days.
This all gets better really quickly. I felt 99% better at 30 days and my craves are just little nagging one's for the most part now.
Good job. Your going to have some rough days brother,, a few of them. There is only one thing I care about during those long hard days. YOU HONOR YOUR WORD!!!!
Your in for a rough few days,, but you can do this. You got some great quitters in your corner. Make sure you got some numbers available. If you need another shoot me a pm.
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Tonight was a bitch. A stressed day at work, football practice, pulled pork and bud lights make me want a £%?*^#¥? dip!!!!!!!!!!
You didn't want a dip, the Nic Bitch tried to tell you that you needed one and you told her to F-off...
You are getting close to the point that the nicotine is out of your system which is good. The bad part is that fact that your body is used to working with nicotine in it- so it's about to really fight you. Day 4-7 was the hardest for me so get ready to strap them on and fight.
The good news is the fact that you are a man of your word and you promised a lot of people that you will never dip again. Use the tools available to you the next several days.
This all gets better really quickly. I felt 99% better at 30 days and my craves are just little nagging one's for the most part now.
Good job. Your going to have some rough days brother,, a few of them. There is only one thing I care about during those long hard days. YOU HONOR YOUR WORD!!!!
Your in for a rough few days,, but you can do this. You got some great quitters in your corner. Make sure you got some numbers available. If you need another shoot me a pm.
Nice job last night. Get in and post roll today... Remember you are early on, so be careful with the Bud Lights. Lowers inhibitions and your resolve. Keep battling Bama!
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I agree with Derk - avoid alcohol early on in your quit. Alcohol has killed more quits than anything on earth. If you can't avoid it, limit yourself to 1. If you start having 3-4 or more, you will be jones'ing HARD for a dip, and even if you can resist, why put yourself thru that. You gotta care for your quit always, but especially so in the early stages.
Don't mean to sound like your daddy, I'm just trying to help, bro.
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Hey Bama, how'd your Saturday go? I know all about one that started off sucking but I hope you were able to turn yours around make it a great positive day in the end!
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Thanks for asking. Rough in the morning. Got better in the afternoon. Probably rough again tonight. Fake chew, seeds and peppermints baby! Went to my youngest sons football game this afternoon. Was telling a couple of the other dads that dipped about my quitting. Made me feel pretty good. It was almost too hot to dip. Gotta love the dog days in the Deep South.
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No problem, the weekend morning was sure rougher than I thought. Sounds like the football game was a good positive experience though with the other Dads, so hope that carries through to your evening to make it less rough.
Fake chew indeed, that's been a big help for me this week when I get to a cave moment. They're not bad to get through, but my head probably isn't where it needs to be to actually be successful yet, so having a tool sure helps.
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I'm sucking on this fake stuff as much as I did the real stuff. Maybe soon I'll get to the point to where I'm chewing gum or whatever instead of this.
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I'm sucking on this fake stuff as much as I did the real stuff. Maybe soon I'll get to the point to where I'm chewing gum or whatever instead of this.
I did the fake stuff for 6 months. Some folks don't believe in it, but it was my crutch and, if it will keep the real stuff out of your mouth, I say go for it. Eventually, I got tired of it.
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I'm sucking on this fake stuff as much as I did the real stuff. Maybe soon I'll get to the point to where I'm chewing gum or whatever instead of this.
I did the fake stuff for 6 months. Some folks don't believe in it, but it was my crutch and, if it will keep the real stuff out of your mouth, I say go for it. Eventually, I got tired of it.
Use the fake stuff as long as it takes. U can do that stuff all day it aint gonna kill ya. Don't worry about it. The only thing you need to worry about is not using nicotine today. Keep it simple. You are doing great bro! Keep at it! Stay quit!
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I haven't been a dumbass since Thursday. It's a good feeling.
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I haven't been a dumbass since Thursday. It's a good feeling.
Hope that good feeling is continuing on tonight. I'm discovering there are plenty of guys walked down this road before come out the better for it. Be strong, you're doing it!
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I'm being as strong as I can. I catch myself coming out of a daydream and in that daydream I've convinced myself that just one little dip would be ok. I have to fight that continuously. I mentioned earlier that I hadn't been a dumbass since Thursday. I am a dumbass addict. I know that this ain't gonna be easy. There's a chance that I might have a cave moment everyday. All I can do is fight through it and try not to slip back into my dumbass ways.
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I'm being as strong as I can. I catch myself coming out of a daydream and in that daydream I've convinced myself that just one little dip would be ok. I have to fight that continuously. I mentioned earlier that I hadn't been a dumbass since Thursday. I am a dumbass addict. I know that this ain't gonna be easy. There's a chance that I might have a cave moment everyday. All I can do is fight through it and try not to slip back into my dumbass ways.
If quitting was easy there wouldn't be addicts. Use every victory over a crave as a tool (reminder) that you can conquer the next one.
Caving is a choice.
Choose to post roll first thing everyday to take caving off of the table for the day. Choose to keep your word every day. Craves will come. When they do, say outloud, "Sorry. I posted roll and I am quit today". Choose to repeat tomorrow.
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I'm being as strong as I can. I catch myself coming out of a daydream and in that daydream I've convinced myself that just one little dip would be ok. I have to fight that continuously. I mentioned earlier that I hadn't been a dumbass since Thursday. I am a dumbass addict. I know that this ain't gonna be easy. There's a chance that I might have a cave moment everyday. All I can do is fight through it and try not to slip back into my dumbass ways.
I know that feeling, I've been fighting that continually today I don't have half the mindset you do on this. But here I still have 1/2 hr to go on my promise for today so tomorrow I can choose to fight through try again for another day. But like Evil put out there, I posted roll today, now to live up to that promise. Cause there's more guys than I would've thought possible who believe I can who have been there before.
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I'm being as strong as I can. I catch myself coming out of a daydream and in that daydream I've convinced myself that just one little dip would be ok. I have to fight that continuously. I mentioned earlier that I hadn't been a dumbass since Thursday. I am a dumbass addict. I know that this ain't gonna be easy. There's a chance that I might have a cave moment everyday. All I can do is fight through it and try not to slip back into my dumbass ways.
I know that feeling, I've been fighting that continually today I don't have half the mindset you do on this. But here I still have 1/2 hr to go on my promise for today so tomorrow I can choose to fight through try again for another day. But like Evil put out there, I posted roll today, now to live up to that promise. Cause there's more guys than I would've thought possible who believe I can who have been there before.
First off,, give yourself A quitting pat on the back. You deserve it. I know what your going through and wouldn't do it again for anything. That's why this quit is so precious to me. I know I wouldn't go through the initial quit again. I'm not strong enough. Took me 25 years to even consider quitting. I wish I found the site earlier in life, but if i'm being truthful,, I never even looked for it. Never even gave quitting a serious thought until February 14, at 130 am,, 192 days ago,, but who's counting.
I thought I was man enough to quit a few times and thought I did good by making it a half day. Went through a few periods when I would only dip a can every couple days. Yea,,,, I was really doing good. What an idiot i was. The poison had me bound gagged and tied for 25 years and it took me that long to figure it out. Now looking back just pisses me off so bad. What an idiot!!!! Read my hof speech if you get time. It's in my signature line. It might help you through another day...
I'm moving forward now and you can bet it won't be with the poison. I hate the poison,,, It fuels my quit. Try it,,, You might like it!!!
I know your healing brain is still having trouble grasping the hate concept,,, so let me help you.
You loved the poison more than anything. You loved it more than your wife, kids, family and friends. Hell, you loved it more than yourself. Why??? It gave you nothing in return. THINK ABOUT IT!!! I have a lot more I can list, but I think it would be good for you to think on this a while. I can write pretty much a whole page of stuff that the poison has taken from me. I can also add some stuff that the poison could possibly take, but I don't like to think about that. One day at a time is where I live now....
Quitting comes from deep. Start telling your brain how to think,,, its turn was over days ago. SAY IT WITH ME.. I HATE THE POISON!!!!!!
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Thanks for sharing that mindset Srans, I'm not anywhere close to the hate yet. Like you I thought I was about as quit as it got making a can last 4 days on average, longer if I threw a smoke in there, I was a substitution guy with it all under control. But had to do more if I wanted expected a clean bill of health. It still feels like I've lost a best friend as opposed to the hate, so a good thought to think on for a couple days.
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Thanks for sharing that mindset Srans, I'm not anywhere close to the hate yet. Like you I thought I was about as quit as it got making a can last 4 days on average, longer if I threw a smoke in there, I was a substitution guy with it all under control. But had to do more if I wanted expected a clean bill of health. It still feels like I've lost a best friend as opposed to the hate, so a good thought to think on for a couple days.
AB,, A good way to start hating it is by reading. Learn your enemy. Find everything you can about how nicotine infiltrates your brain and takes over.
Nicotine takes over the same pathways that tell you that your starving. That's why countless times you would would have rather had a dip instead of eat. It's also the same pathways that cause feelings,, like love, hate. That's why you love it more that yourself and family. Learning this enemy is half the battle.
I wrote something in hof speech that I like to point out from time to time. I use to make sure I had enough poison on me that if I broke down on the highway with my wife and family, I would of at least have enough poison for the ordeal. WTF!!! The poison would have helped me through it. How???? It wouldn't have changed a tire for me. It wouldn't have brought any tools to fix the car. It wouldn't have helped one little damn bit!! {Rant},,, sorry..
I made sure I had enough poison for every occasion...
Learning this enemy will help you get ahead in this marathon. Make no mistake ab and bama,, the poison is your ENEMY!!!!! Learn it,,,, live it!!!!!
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About 74 hours into this quit. Today has been the worst by far. No cave tonight. Got this.
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Thanks for sharing that mindset Srans, I'm not anywhere close to the hate yet. Like you I thought I was about as quit as it got making a can last 4 days on average, longer if I threw a smoke in there, I was a substitution guy with it all under control. But had to do more if I wanted expected a clean bill of health. It still feels like I've lost a best friend as opposed to the hate, so a good thought to think on for a couple days.
AB,, A good way to start hating it is by reading. Learn your enemy. Find everything you can about how nicotine infiltrates your brain and takes over.
Nicotine takes over the same pathways that tell you that your starving. That's why countless times you would would have rather had a dip instead of eat. It's also the same pathways that cause feelings,, like love, hate. That's why you love it more that yourself and family. Learning this enemy is half the battle.
I wrote something in hof speech that I like to point out from time to time. I use to make sure I had enough poison on me that if I broke down on the highway with my wife and family, I would of at least have enough poison for the ordeal. WTF!!! The poison would have helped me through it. How???? It wouldn't have changed a tire for me. It wouldn't have brought any tools to fix the car. It wouldn't have helped one little damn bit!! {Rant},,, sorry..
I made sure I had enough poison for every occasion...
Learning this enemy will help you get ahead in this marathon. Make no mistake ab and bama,, the poison is your ENEMY!!!!! Learn it,,,, live it!!!!!
Thanks for the tips Srans, I'll have to do some more reading. Because I had no idea how it really worked before, but yes Cope became breakfast for me. Who needs to eat before leaving for work? But I guarantee my morning commute wasn't done without a dip.
Funny the way it works though, you really do believe it'll cure what ails ya. It might not change the flat for you or fix the car, but darned if you don't think you're better at dealing with the situation with a dip. But lots of people make lots of car repairs without it. I did my first this week. Granted it was just changing a taillight, but well it is possible LOL So don't be sorry about a rant, to me we're all here to discuss learn. If I didn't want to hear about other's experiences I'd turn off the computer
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About 74 hours into this quit. Today has been the worst by far. No cave tonight. Got this.
Awesome! But don't lose hope even though it doesn't get better after the magic 72hrs are up. Just take it one day at a time keep positive! I know because it's all I can do right about now too even after 6 days.
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About 74 hours into this quit. Today has been the worst by far. No cave tonight. Got this.
Awesome! But don't lose hope even though it doesn't get better after the magic 72hrs are up. Just take it one day at a time keep positive! I know because it's all I can do right about now too even after 6 days.
You Bama boys are winning the toughest fight of your lives. I am 91 days quit right now and still fighting this nic addiction every damn day, but it is way better now than it was yesterday. Yes there are days ahead of us that will be harder than yesterday, but overall it gets easier and better every day. I poisoned myself for over 20 years so I cannot expect to heal in 100 days... Read some of the intro threads of the bad asses who are taking the time to post on your intros. These are guys who have been through what we are going through. They helped me and everyone else who quits here. Read the intros from page 1 on, and you will see that the fight can be won. Get the knowledge; get the target for all that rage you boys are feeling... Nicotine and U.S. tobacco should get your rage!
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Yesterday was rough. I've gotta change some routines.
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Yesterday was rough. I've gotta change some routines.
About 4 days in is really rough. It does get better quickly so keep hanging tough and you will make it.
I quit with you.
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Yesterday was rough. I've gotta change some routines.
About 4 days in is really rough. It does get better quickly so keep hanging tough and you will make it.
I quit with you.
You're deep in the fog right now. The nic is out of your system now. But the fight is just beginning. Remember 2 things: 1) it will get better, and 2) you can do this!
One day at a time. You're not quitting forever...just for today. Today is all that matters. You can do it.
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Yesterday was rough. I've gotta change some routines.
About 4 days in is really rough. It does get better quickly so keep hanging tough and you will make it.
I quit with you.
Here's what you need to do brother. Get you a ticket to the Himalayan mountains. Make sure you pack some climbing gear and oxygen..
When you arrive at your destination look for mount Everest. Start climbing brother. Don,t forget the oxygen. I hear the air is quite thin.
When you get to the top, take a good look at the world without nicotine blurring your vision and desensitizing your emotions. Feel the oxygen your brain is now receiving because you aren't depriving it anymore due to a filthy disgusting addiction. Feel your blood pressure lowering because you aren't mixing in toxins and who knows what else.
I say it's worth it brother. We weren't meant to be lead around by a can of dirt. Freedom,, feel it ,tast it, smell it.
Now if mount everest is a little to far and high, maybe there is a roof around you can climb. In that case don't worry about the oxygen. Quit with you brother....
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Yesterday was rough. I've gotta change some routines.
About 4 days in is really rough. It does get better quickly so keep hanging tough and you will make it.
I quit with you.
You're deep in the fog right now. The nic is out of your system now. But the fight is just beginning. Remember 2 things: 1) it will get better, and 2) you can do this!
One day at a time. You're not quitting forever...just for today. Today is all that matters. You can do it.
This is where I'm at right now need to remember too as I try to get to the reading srens says will help. Thanks Bean!
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I swear I would have caved last night had it not been for knowing I had to post this morning. Having a really really hard time. So much going on in my life right now. I really need to change some other things that will hopefully help the urges I'm having. Wednesday is the worst day of the week for me at work. Wife said if I can make it through today I've got it beat.
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I swear I would have caved last night had it not been for knowing I had to post this morning. Having a really really hard time. So much going on in my life right now. I really need to change some other things that will hopefully help the urges I'm having. Wednesday is the worst day of the week for me at work. Wife said if I can make it through today I've got it beat.
Hey Bama, you hang in there brother!
You WILL make it through today. Once you post roll, you HAVE to make it through today!
Posting roll with save your quit.
Keep fighting Brother, it is worth it!
Miles - +1 with you
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I swear I would have caved last night had it not been for knowing I had to post this morning. Having a really really hard time. So much going on in my life right now. I really need to change some other things that will hopefully help the urges I'm having. Wednesday is the worst day of the week for me at work. Wife said if I can make it through today I've got it beat.
Hey Bama, you hang in there brother!
You WILL make it through today. Once you post roll, you HAVE to make it through today!
Posting roll with save your quit.
Keep fighting Brother, it is worth it!
Miles - +1 with you
Bama, you have no choice other than to make it. Caving is off the table. You're quit ,, bottom line. Freedom brother, smell it, taste it and feel it. Keep your head pointed forward, nothing back there for you.
It is so worth it. Get your mind right. Quit with you.
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I swear I would have caved last night had it not been for knowing I had to post this morning. Having a really really hard time. So much going on in my life right now. I really need to change some other things that will hopefully help the urges I'm having. Wednesday is the worst day of the week for me at work. Wife said if I can make it through today I've got it beat.
Hey Bama, you hang in there brother!
You WILL make it through today. Once you post roll, you HAVE to make it through today!
Posting roll with save your quit.
Keep fighting Brother, it is worth it!
Miles - +1 with you
Bama, you have no choice other than to make it. Caving is off the table. You're quit ,, bottom line. Freedom brother, smell it, taste it and feel it. Keep your head pointed forward, nothing back there for you.
It is so worth it. Get your mind right. Quit with you.
What Srans said. There is only quit.
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I swear I would have caved last night had it not been for knowing I had to post this morning. Having a really really hard time. So much going on in my life right now. I really need to change some other things that will hopefully help the urges I'm having. Wednesday is the worst day of the week for me at work. Wife said if I can make it through today I've got it beat.
Glad to see you made it through today bro. Text away whenever you need so I can feel free to do the same.
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...and failed....
He just had so much going on in his little life that he couldn't make it...poor little thing....
...and the rest of us didn't have anything going on in our life's when we quit...
F that...I am pissed....
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...and failed....
He just had so much going on in his little life that he couldn't make it...poor little thing....
...and the rest of us didn't have anything going on in our life's when we quit...
F that...I am pissed....
You want your freedom and keep it,,, YOU GOT TO TAKE IT!!!! To fall back to slavery means you didn't want it bad enough.
Bama,, you were doing it man. You made it a few days, which means you were getting closer and closer to that first door. That first door is hard to get to and open, but once you get there things improve and everything gets easier.
Well, i'm not going anywhere,, I love my new life. I wish you could see what I see brother. Come back when you RRRRREEEAAALLLLLY Want to quit.
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...and failed....
He just had so much going on in his little life that he couldn't make it...poor little thing....
...and the rest of us didn't have anything going on in our life's when we quit...
F that...I am pissed....
You want your freedom and keep it,,, YOU GOT TO TAKE IT!!!! To fall back to slavery means you didn't want it bad enough.
Bama,, you were doing it man. You made it a few days, which means you were getting closer and closer to that first door. That first door is hard to get to and open, but once you get there things improve and everything gets easier.
Well, i'm not going anywhere,, I love my new life. I wish you could see what I see brother. Come back when you RRRRREEEAAALLLLLY Want to quit.
I have started to take it personally when I have reached out to help someone and I see they fail without giving it their all to succeed.
I mean, I go through each day without failing because I told you, Wedge, Minny, Pinched, Applejack, Sportsfan and many other's that I quit dipping 44 days ago. If I fail, we all fail.
So now I feel like I could fail because I have seen Bama fail and I don't like the feeling of that.
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...and failed....
He just had so much going on in his little life that he couldn't make it...poor little thing....
...and the rest of us didn't have anything going on in our life's when we quit...
F that...I am pissed....
You want your freedom and keep it,,, YOU GOT TO TAKE IT!!!! To fall back to slavery means you didn't want it bad enough.
Bama,, you were doing it man. You made it a few days, which means you were getting closer and closer to that first door. That first door is hard to get to and open, but once you get there things improve and everything gets easier.
Well, i'm not going anywhere,, I love my new life. I wish you could see what I see brother. Come back when you RRRRREEEAAALLLLLY Want to quit.
I have started to take it personally when I have reached out to help someone and I see they fail without giving it their all to succeed.
I mean, I go through each day without failing because I told you, Wedge, Minny, Pinched, Applejack, Sportsfan and many other's that I quit dipping 44 days ago. If I fail, we all fail.
So now I feel like I could fail because I have seen Bama fail and I don't like the feeling of that.
It doesn't feel good to any of us when someone caves. Its a reminder that we are all just 1 stupid/weak decision away from the same fate.
However, the good news is that caving is a choice. Therefore we are all in control of our own quit fate. My choice is to stay quit no matter what. A caver can make all the excuses they want - but it boils down to one thing: they decided that they are too big of a wussie to live life without being constantly medicated by a cancer causing substance. How stupid is that??
Keep making the right choice everyday, and you don't have to worry about whether you might cave someday.
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I'm with you guys, yeah we might all be close to just one decision away from a cave but it's still a decision. I got up this morning made the best decision I could to go post roll. I can't worry about the future, only what I'm doing for myself today. So that I might one day like srans yall, be enjoying my new life.
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I'm with you guys, yeah we might all be close to just one decision away from a cave but it's still a decision. I got up this morning made the best decision I could to go post roll. I can't worry about the future, only what I'm doing for myself today. So that I might one day like srans yall, be enjoying my new life.
Good job guys. I texted him on august 28 and asked how it was going. That was the Wednesday in which he said he struggles. He responded mouth full of seeds and I had seeds in my mouth then as well. Left the conversation die at that point. Can't dwell on cavers. It effected me greatly early on. We all want the same thing or at least we thought we did. I quit with you all today.
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I'm with you guys, yeah we might all be close to just one decision away from a cave but it's still a decision. I got up this morning made the best decision I could to go post roll. I can't worry about the future, only what I'm doing for myself today. So that I might one day like srans yall, be enjoying my new life.
Good job guys. I texted him on august 28 and asked how it was going. That was the Wednesday in which he said he struggles. He responded mouth full of seeds and I had seeds in my mouth then as well. Left the conversation die at that point. Can't dwell on cavers. It effected me greatly early on. We all want the same thing or at least we thought we did. I quit with you all today.
I did too then. I don't think it was a lack of anyone not reaching out enough. I think everybody reached out, but in the end, you still have to do it for yourself, I can't get it done for you. It affected me too though as he was the first one I'd seen/known who left.
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...and failed....
He just had so much going on in his little life that he couldn't make it...poor little thing....
...and the rest of us didn't have anything going on in our life's when we quit...
F that...I am pissed....
You want your freedom and keep it,,, YOU GOT TO TAKE IT!!!! To fall back to slavery means you didn't want it bad enough.
Bama,, you were doing it man. You made it a few days, which means you were getting closer and closer to that first door. That first door is hard to get to and open, but once you get there things improve and everything gets easier.
Well, i'm not going anywhere,, I love my new life. I wish you could see what I see brother. Come back when you RRRRREEEAAALLLLLY Want to quit.
I have started to take it personally when I have reached out to help someone and I see they fail without giving it their all to succeed.
I mean, I go through each day without failing because I told you, Wedge, Minny, Pinched, Applejack, Sportsfan and many other's that I quit dipping 44 days ago. If I fail, we all fail.
So now I feel like I could fail because I have seen Bama fail and I don't like the feeling of that.
It doesn't feel good to any of us when someone caves. Its a reminder that we are all just 1 stupid/weak decision away from the same fate.
However, the good news is that caving is a choice. Therefore we are all in control of our own quit fate. My choice is to stay quit no matter what. A caver can make all the excuses they want - but it boils down to one thing: they decided that they are too big of a wussie to live life without being constantly medicated by a cancer causing substance. How stupid is that??
Keep making the right choice everyday, and you don't have to worry about whether you might cave someday.
Cavers use to get to me upset. Especially when they are/were in my group. As time goes on it will not bother you as much. It actually fuels my quit now. Now, when I see a cave, especially from a person that's post 100, It lets me know that I'm an addict and I can never let MY guard down. I can never listen to my addict mind or I will fall right back into the nicotine obis. I don't know who first said it, but I like it. Cavers find a way to cave and quitters find a way to quit.
I chose to stay quit today. I hate the poison. I hated it when I woke up. As the day progresses I will hate it more and more. Screw the poison. I got more important things to do then lose sleep over a CAVER!!
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...and failed....
He just had so much going on in his little life that he couldn't make it...poor little thing....
...and the rest of us didn't have anything going on in our life's when we quit...
F that...I am pissed....
You want your freedom and keep it,,, YOU GOT TO TAKE IT!!!! To fall back to slavery means you didn't want it bad enough.
Bama,, you were doing it man. You made it a few days, which means you were getting closer and closer to that first door. That first door is hard to get to and open, but once you get there things improve and everything gets easier.
Well, i'm not going anywhere,, I love my new life. I wish you could see what I see brother. Come back when you RRRRREEEAAALLLLLY Want to quit.
I have started to take it personally when I have reached out to help someone and I see they fail without giving it their all to succeed.
I mean, I go through each day without failing because I told you, Wedge, Minny, Pinched, Applejack, Sportsfan and many other's that I quit dipping 44 days ago. If I fail, we all fail.
So now I feel like I could fail because I have seen Bama fail and I don't like the feeling of that.
It doesn't feel good to any of us when someone caves. Its a reminder that we are all just 1 stupid/weak decision away from the same fate.
However, the good news is that caving is a choice. Therefore we are all in control of our own quit fate. My choice is to stay quit no matter what. A caver can make all the excuses they want - but it boils down to one thing: they decided that they are too big of a wussie to live life without being constantly medicated by a cancer causing substance. How stupid is that??
Keep making the right choice everyday, and you don't have to worry about whether you might cave someday.
Cavers use to get to me upset. Especially when they are/were in my group. As time goes on it will not bother you as much. It actually fuels my quit now. Now, when I see a cave, especially from a person that's post 100, It lets me know that I'm an addict and I can never let MY guard down. I can never listen to my addict mind or I will fall right back into the nicotine obis. I don't know who first said it, but I like it. Cavers find a way to cave and quitters find a way to quit.
I chose to stay quit today. I hate the poison. I hated it when I woke up. As the day progresses I will hate it more and more. Screw the poison. I got more important things to do then lose sleep over a CAVER!!
Well said, Srans! quit with you today.
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30 year addict tobacco free since 11:00 last night. Need some help on figuring out what to do on this site. Plz let me know.
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Here is the welcome center that has most of instructions: forum/55560/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/forum/55560/)
Welcome and you've made the best decision in your life!
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Thanks man. Sorry for posting a new thread just for that. I should have looked more carefully. Mind not working too efficiently at the moment...
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Thanks man. Sorry for posting a new thread just for that. I should have looked more carefully. Mind not working too efficiently at the moment...
Its fine. Now you can type an intro when you get around to it.
Welcome.
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Thanks man. Sorry for posting a new thread just for that. I should have looked more carefully. Mind not working too efficiently at the moment...
This is your intro and you can post whatever you want here. Most keep a running log of how they were feeling so they can look back at it.
If you need help just reach out.
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I'm a lot of things (a slave to that mess for 30 years first and foremost) but I'm not a liar. I've been on here before. Two years ago I think. Never did an intro or anything that I remember. The attempted quit only lasted a week. I've been back to a can a day ever since. I'm sure some on here will ask "How is this go around any different?" and I don't have a good answer for that. All I can do is prove it. I'm going to prove to myself that I can beat this mess. I'm going to prove to my 4 wonderful kids that I can do this and that I want to be a part of their lives for years to come. Especially to my 17 year old son. He has no idea how much it broke my heart to find that empty can of Copenhagen in his truck. All I know is that I've been nicotine free for 13 hours now and I'm going to do this.
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I'm a lot of things (a slave to that mess for 30 years first and foremost) but I'm not a liar. I've been on here before. Two years ago I think. Never did an intro or anything that I remember. The attempted quit only lasted a week. I've been back to a can a day ever since. I'm sure some on here will ask "How is this go around any different?" and I don't have a good answer for that. All I can do is prove it. I'm going to prove to myself that I can beat this mess. I'm going to prove to my 4 wonderful kids that I can do this and that I want to be a part of their lives for years to come. Especially to my 17 year old son. He has no idea how much it broke my heart to find that empty can of Copenhagen in his truck. All I know is that I've been nicotine free for 13 hours now and I'm going to do this.
Do you remember your old account name? Do you know what email address you would have used back then (you can pm it to me.)
And, btw, you are a liar. You have lied and stolen time from others to feed your addiction. You said that you wanted to quit 2 years ago and that, sir, is a lie.
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Yeah I'll try to PM you the old email account. I tried to log in with it but I didn't remember my password. Yeah I was a liar I get it. I'm just trying to be upfront.
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Yeah I'll try to PM you the old email account. I tried to log in with it but I didn't remember my password. Yeah I was a liar I get it. I'm just trying to be upfront.
It's all good to be upfront.
We're hard on you because we want you to be quit. If you're lying to us, then we can't help you. If you're lying to yourself, we can't help you until you realize that.
So, what happened the first time around? Foggy confusion? Why'd ya give up on the quit so soon?
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It was a random quit. Came in one week and my gum was hurting and I knee jerk quit. I didn't make any other changes in my life to support giving it up. I kept on drinking and eating like I always did and the first football game of the season that year was more than I could handle. Now, I know I have to make other changes in my life.
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