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Community => Introductions => Topic started by: tls37010 on March 10, 2014, 03:46:00 PM
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This intro is probably a little late. Anyways, I'm tls many of you have probably seen me posting roll with June Poon (DAY 8!) or some of you may have even exchanged numbers with me.
Anyways, I'm a 21 year old college student studying mechanical engineering. I've been chewing since I was 15 or 16 and was up to a can and a half per day a week ago. It first started just being an occasional thing when a couple buddies went fishing turned into an everyday thing.
Going into what made me decide to quit: I always wanted to quit since I realized I was addicted. That said, like many of us it was never the right time, the right circumstances etc. And frankly, I was honestly scared to quit after my last attempt about 2 years ago that resulted in a broken laptop, broken iphone, and my truck running out of gas on a busy highway half a mile past the gas station.
That said, I picked up a can of Smokey Mountain along with my last can of grizzly last Saturday. It felt so much like my Grizzly it gave me the confidence to quit again, this time for good. I actually ended up making a 2 hour drive with one dip of Smokey Mountain - something I hadn't done with Grizzly in a looong time.
Once I realized what I had just done, and looked at how little Grizzly I had gone through, I decided right then and there to quit. So last Monday was my first full day nic free and quit. It's been - uh wild to say the least. The fog was terrible. Day 2 was the worst of it all, but I got through it and now I must be extra vigilant in not letting my guard down and not getting complacent.
Thanks to all who have supported me and advised me so far. I look forward to paying it forward once I've gained some experience with this.
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This intro is probably a little late. Anyways, I'm tls many of you have probably seen me posting roll with June Poon (DAY 8!) or some of you may have even exchanged numbers with me.
Anyways, I'm a 21 year old college student studying mechanical engineering. I've been chewing since I was 15 or 16 and was up to a can and a half per day a week ago. It first started just being an occasional thing when a couple buddies went fishing turned into an everyday thing.
Going into what made me decide to quit: I always wanted to quit since I realized I was addicted. That said, like many of us it was never the right time, the right circumstances etc. And frankly, I was honestly scared to quit after my last attempt about 2 years ago that resulted in a broken laptop, broken iphone, and my truck running out of gas on a busy highway half a mile past the gas station.
That said, I picked up a can of Smokey Mountain along with my last can of grizzly last Saturday. It felt so much like my Grizzly it gave me the confidence to quit again, this time for good. I actually ended up making a 2 hour drive with one dip of Smokey Mountain - something I hadn't done with Grizzly in a looong time.
Once I realized what I had just done, and looked at how little Grizzly I had gone through, I decided right then and there to quit. So last Monday was my first full day nic free and quit. It's been - uh wild to say the least. The fog was terrible. Day 2 was the worst of it all, but I got through it and now I must be extra vigilant in not letting my guard down and not getting complacent.
Thanks to all who have supported me and advised me so far. I look forward to paying it forward once I've gained some experience with this.
Welcome aboard...officially. I have seen you in chat. Great decision, the more involved you are here the greater the success rate long term.
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Welcome! Quit NOW! It will never get any easier. Believe me, I was in you shoes 25 years ago (same degree too) except I didn't quit. Took me 33 years to decide I wanted freedom from the can.
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Glad to have you tls. The freedom you feel from the Grizzly crap will only get better.
Quit with today!
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Glad to have you in the June group. I'm on day 9 so believe me, I know what you're going through. Hopefully things have gotten easier for you since the first few days are pretty terrible.
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Anyways, I'm a 21 year old college student studying mechanical engineering.
Well you are definitely smart enough to understand this addiction. I was ME too till too many things got too "dynamic", then I switched to Civil. I quit with you cuz you are feisty! 'crackup'
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I appreciate the support guys.
I've come back to this thread, because I needed somewhere other than June Group to occupy my thoughts. Especially, since this is in regards to recent caves within the group.
You guys are a bunch of pussies. I don't care what happens in your life, I don't care how long you chewed for. I don't give a shit if your mom, daughter, and father all fall over dead on the same day. I don't give a shit if Fido gets run over by a fucking car. I don't give a shit your home gets foreclosed on or your car gets impounded. No matter what happens, nicotine isn't going to make it better.
You're a fucking idiot if you think nicotine is going to solve your damn problem. At this point in your quit, it's gonna fucking compound your problem. You're going to start to feel dizzy, your head is going to spin, and you won't be able to see or think straight. Then the guilt will set in. You're going to realize that you let your brothers here at KTC down. You let your wife/significant other down. You let your children down. You let everyone who you've surrounded yourself with down. The can really is more important than your dearest fucking loved ones, huh? Just remember that you let your loved ones down. Remember the look in child's eyes when they see you with the can in. Remember that your wife does think less of you as a man, now. Your wife wants a man with a back bone, a man who can stand up to life's challenges and face them down. She wants a man she can count on to support her, not the other way around.
No, I don't want you back in my fucking quit group. No, the fuck I don't. I don't give a shit. You gave up. You quit. Every other mother fucker on this site has gone through this shit, some of us 10x worse than you. You had no reason to cave, except for the fact that you are a baby backed bitch. You are a selfish mother fucker. You chose the nic bitch over every one who loves and surrounds you. You know the dangers, and risks associated with tobacco, yet you still took it. You said your word wasn't worth a damn. You said you had no will power. You said that quitting is not important to you. You specifically described just how selfish you are, without even using a single fucking word!
I don't care if you just took one dip, and it made you feel dizzy and light headed. No shit, that's what a foreign substance will do when your body is not dependent on it. I don't give a shit if you threw the rest down the toilet, or in the trash. That's not a sign of a recovering addict; that's the sign of an addict attempting to hide. I don't give a shit about any of your lame ass excuses. I don't give a flying hoot-shit and I hope none of my brothers do.
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I like this guy...
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You have quit written all over you. Nice to meet you in chat.
As far as the cavers... This plan is sooo simple. Post your promise in roll first thing every day. Keep your word. Yeah, it can be a brutal day in the beginning. It will be. But, you know what, you can do anything for a day. These cavers... Either didn't post their promise or they have no integrity. Either way, their failure strengthens my resolve. And my integrity.
Glad you joined us man! Welcome aboard!
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I'd have to agree. Quitting is a battle for every one of us here. However, we have the resolve and the strength to press on and quit One Day At A Time. Anyone can do that if they put their mind to it.
I, too, have some issue with people who have caved coming back into the group. The quit group is (supposed to be) full of people who QLF and are committed to it. People who cave and come back obviously aren't committed. Especially those that cave more than once, which I've also seen.
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You guys are a bunch of pussies. I don't care what happens in your life, I don't care how long you chewed for. I don't give a shit if your mom, daughter, and father all fall over dead on the same day. I don't give a shit if Fido gets run over by a fucking car. I don't give a shit your home gets foreclosed on or your car gets impounded. No matter what happens, nicotine isn't going to make it better.
problem + nicotine = 2 problems
Nice steam tls...keep blowin it off, bro.
MIZ...
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quit wood is engaged after reading this.
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I appreciate the support guys.
I've come back to this thread, because I needed somewhere other than June Group to occupy my thoughts. Especially, since this is in regards to recent caves within the group.
You guys are a bunch of pussies. I don't care what happens in your life, I don't care how long you chewed for. I don't give a shit if your mom, daughter, and father all fall over dead on the same day. I don't give a shit if Fido gets run over by a fucking car. I don't give a shit your home gets foreclosed on or your car gets impounded. No matter what happens, nicotine isn't going to make it better.
You're a fucking idiot if you think nicotine is going to solve your damn problem. At this point in your quit, it's gonna fucking compound your problem. You're going to start to feel dizzy, your head is going to spin, and you won't be able to see or think straight. Then the guilt will set in. You're going to realize that you let your brothers here at KTC down. You let your wife/significant other down. You let your children down. You let everyone who you've surrounded yourself with down. The can really is more important than your dearest fucking loved ones, huh? Just remember that you let your loved ones down. Remember the look in child's eyes when they see you with the can in. Remember that your wife does think less of you as a man, now. Your wife wants a man with a back bone, a man who can stand up to life's challenges and face them down. She wants a man she can count on to support her, not the other way around.
No, I don't want you back in my fucking quit group. No, the fuck I don't. I don't give a shit. You gave up. You quit. Every other mother fucker on this site has gone through this shit, some of us 10x worse than you. You had no reason to cave, except for the fact that you are a baby backed bitch. You are a selfish mother fucker. You chose the nic bitch over every one who loves and surrounds you. You know the dangers, and risks associated with tobacco, yet you still took it. You said your word wasn't worth a damn. You said you had no will power. You said that quitting is not important to you. You specifically described just how selfish you are, without even using a single fucking word!
I don't care if you just took one dip, and it made you feel dizzy and light headed. No shit, that's what a foreign substance will do when your body is not dependent on it. I don't give a shit if you threw the rest down the toilet, or in the trash. That's not a sign of a recovering addict; that's the sign of an addict attempting to hide. I don't give a shit about any of your lame ass excuses. I don't give a flying hoot-shit and I hope none of my brothers do.
This is fucking passion right here! Here's some tits for you brother 'boob'
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That's got to be the best rant I've ever read on this forum. My digits are in your pm box. Go read my intro thread. I didn't cave through adversity. I quit with this bad ass!
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I like this guy...
I do too! He cut through all the June shit and calls it true!
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I like this guy...
I do too! He cut through all the June shit and calls it true!
I agree.... quit on bros!
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I like this guy...
I do too! He cut through all the June shit and calls it true!
I agree.... quit on bros!
Some people come to act quit. Some people come to pretend. Some come trying, wishing and wanting.
Not this guy! He just came to QUIT!! Be careful if you decide to follow him. You might just have to keep your WORD. You might actually demonstrate some integrity. You might gain some of the stolen dignity you've lost. Most of all you might just stay quit. Powerful quit going on in this intro. Quit with this guy any day.
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I appreciate the support guys.
I've come back to this thread, because I needed somewhere other than June Group to occupy my thoughts. Especially, since this is in regards to recent caves within the group.
You guys are a bunch of pussies. I don't care what happens in your life, I don't care how long you chewed for. I don't give a shit if your mom, daughter, and father all fall over dead on the same day. I don't give a shit if Fido gets run over by a fucking car. I don't give a shit your home gets foreclosed on or your car gets impounded. No matter what happens, nicotine isn't going to make it better.
You're a fucking idiot if you think nicotine is going to solve your damn problem. At this point in your quit, it's gonna fucking compound your problem. You're going to start to feel dizzy, your head is going to spin, and you won't be able to see or think straight. Then the guilt will set in. You're going to realize that you let your brothers here at KTC down. You let your wife/significant other down. You let your children down. You let everyone who you've surrounded yourself with down. The can really is more important than your dearest fucking loved ones, huh? Just remember that you let your loved ones down. Remember the look in child's eyes when they see you with the can in. Remember that your wife does think less of you as a man, now. Your wife wants a man with a back bone, a man who can stand up to life's challenges and face them down. She wants a man she can count on to support her, not the other way around.
No, I don't want you back in my fucking quit group. No, the fuck I don't. I don't give a shit. You gave up. You quit. Every other mother fucker on this site has gone through this shit, some of us 10x worse than you. You had no reason to cave, except for the fact that you are a baby backed bitch. You are a selfish mother fucker. You chose the nic bitch over every one who loves and surrounds you. You know the dangers, and risks associated with tobacco, yet you still took it. You said your word wasn't worth a damn. You said you had no will power. You said that quitting is not important to you. You specifically described just how selfish you are, without even using a single fucking word!
I don't care if you just took one dip, and it made you feel dizzy and light headed. No shit, that's what a foreign substance will do when your body is not dependent on it. I don't give a shit if you threw the rest down the toilet, or in the trash. That's not a sign of a recovering addict; that's the sign of an addict attempting to hide. I don't give a shit about any of your lame ass excuses. I don't give a flying hoot-shit and I hope none of my brothers do.
This no bullshit sort of approach is why I signed on here. I'm glad you did too tls. Keep going strong. Just fired me up big time- thanks! Proud to quit with someone willing to call it like it is!
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I appreciate the support guys.
I've come back to this thread, because I needed somewhere other than June Group to occupy my thoughts. Especially, since this is in regards to recent caves within the group.
You guys are a bunch of pussies. I don't care what happens in your life, I don't care how long you chewed for. I don't give a shit if your mom, daughter, and father all fall over dead on the same day. I don't give a shit if Fido gets run over by a fucking car. I don't give a shit your home gets foreclosed on or your car gets impounded. No matter what happens, nicotine isn't going to make it better.
You're a fucking idiot if you think nicotine is going to solve your damn problem. At this point in your quit, it's gonna fucking compound your problem. You're going to start to feel dizzy, your head is going to spin, and you won't be able to see or think straight. Then the guilt will set in. You're going to realize that you let your brothers here at KTC down. You let your wife/significant other down. You let your children down. You let everyone who you've surrounded yourself with down. The can really is more important than your dearest fucking loved ones, huh? Just remember that you let your loved ones down. Remember the look in child's eyes when they see you with the can in. Remember that your wife does think less of you as a man, now. Your wife wants a man with a back bone, a man who can stand up to life's challenges and face them down. She wants a man she can count on to support her, not the other way around.
No, I don't want you back in my fucking quit group. No, the fuck I don't. I don't give a shit. You gave up. You quit. Every other mother fucker on this site has gone through this shit, some of us 10x worse than you. You had no reason to cave, except for the fact that you are a baby backed bitch. You are a selfish mother fucker. You chose the nic bitch over every one who loves and surrounds you. You know the dangers, and risks associated with tobacco, yet you still took it. You said your word wasn't worth a damn. You said you had no will power. You said that quitting is not important to you. You specifically described just how selfish you are, without even using a single fucking word!
I don't care if you just took one dip, and it made you feel dizzy and light headed. No shit, that's what a foreign substance will do when your body is not dependent on it. I don't give a shit if you threw the rest down the toilet, or in the trash. That's not a sign of a recovering addict; that's the sign of an addict attempting to hide. I don't give a shit about any of your lame ass excuses. I don't give a flying hoot-shit and I hope none of my brothers do.
This no bullshit sort of approach is why I signed on here. I'm glad you did too tls. Keep going strong. Just fired me up big time- thanks! Proud to quit with someone willing to call it like it is!
Great post. That pretty much says it all.
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I appreciate the support guys.
I've come back to this thread, because I needed somewhere other than June Group to occupy my thoughts. Especially, since this is in regards to recent caves within the group.
You guys are a bunch of pussies. I don't care what happens in your life, I don't care how long you chewed for. I don't give a shit if your mom, daughter, and father all fall over dead on the same day. I don't give a shit if Fido gets run over by a fucking car. I don't give a shit your home gets foreclosed on or your car gets impounded. No matter what happens, nicotine isn't going to make it better.
You're a fucking idiot if you think nicotine is going to solve your damn problem. At this point in your quit, it's gonna fucking compound your problem. You're going to start to feel dizzy, your head is going to spin, and you won't be able to see or think straight. Then the guilt will set in. You're going to realize that you let your brothers here at KTC down. You let your wife/significant other down. You let your children down. You let everyone who you've surrounded yourself with down. The can really is more important than your dearest fucking loved ones, huh? Just remember that you let your loved ones down. Remember the look in child's eyes when they see you with the can in. Remember that your wife does think less of you as a man, now. Your wife wants a man with a back bone, a man who can stand up to life's challenges and face them down. She wants a man she can count on to support her, not the other way around.
No, I don't want you back in my fucking quit group. No, the fuck I don't. I don't give a shit. You gave up. You quit. Every other mother fucker on this site has gone through this shit, some of us 10x worse than you. You had no reason to cave, except for the fact that you are a baby backed bitch. You are a selfish mother fucker. You chose the nic bitch over every one who loves and surrounds you. You know the dangers, and risks associated with tobacco, yet you still took it. You said your word wasn't worth a damn. You said you had no will power. You said that quitting is not important to you. You specifically described just how selfish you are, without even using a single fucking word!
I don't care if you just took one dip, and it made you feel dizzy and light headed. No shit, that's what a foreign substance will do when your body is not dependent on it. I don't give a shit if you threw the rest down the toilet, or in the trash. That's not a sign of a recovering addict; that's the sign of an addict attempting to hide. I don't give a shit about any of your lame ass excuses. I don't give a flying hoot-shit and I hope none of my brothers do.
This no bullshit sort of approach is why I signed on here. I'm glad you did too tls. Keep going strong. Just fired me up big time- thanks! Proud to quit with someone willing to call it like it is!
Great post. That pretty much says it all.
Well said, tis, well said.
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I appreciate the support guys.
I've come back to this thread, because I needed somewhere other than June Group to occupy my thoughts. Especially, since this is in regards to recent caves within the group.
You guys are a bunch of pussies. I don't care what happens in your life, I don't care how long you chewed for. I don't give a shit if your mom, daughter, and father all fall over dead on the same day. I don't give a shit if Fido gets run over by a fucking car. I don't give a shit your home gets foreclosed on or your car gets impounded. No matter what happens, nicotine isn't going to make it better.
You're a fucking idiot if you think nicotine is going to solve your damn problem. At this point in your quit, it's gonna fucking compound your problem. You're going to start to feel dizzy, your head is going to spin, and you won't be able to see or think straight. Then the guilt will set in. You're going to realize that you let your brothers here at KTC down. You let your wife/significant other down. You let your children down. You let everyone who you've surrounded yourself with down. The can really is more important than your dearest fucking loved ones, huh? Just remember that you let your loved ones down. Remember the look in child's eyes when they see you with the can in. Remember that your wife does think less of you as a man, now. Your wife wants a man with a back bone, a man who can stand up to life's challenges and face them down. She wants a man she can count on to support her, not the other way around.
No, I don't want you back in my fucking quit group. No, the fuck I don't. I don't give a shit. You gave up. You quit. Every other mother fucker on this site has gone through this shit, some of us 10x worse than you. You had no reason to cave, except for the fact that you are a baby backed bitch. You are a selfish mother fucker. You chose the nic bitch over every one who loves and surrounds you. You know the dangers, and risks associated with tobacco, yet you still took it. You said your word wasn't worth a damn. You said you had no will power. You said that quitting is not important to you. You specifically described just how selfish you are, without even using a single fucking word!
I don't care if you just took one dip, and it made you feel dizzy and light headed. No shit, that's what a foreign substance will do when your body is not dependent on it. I don't give a shit if you threw the rest down the toilet, or in the trash. That's not a sign of a recovering addict; that's the sign of an addict attempting to hide. I don't give a shit about any of your lame ass excuses. I don't give a flying hoot-shit and I hope none of my brothers do.
This no bullshit sort of approach is why I signed on here. I'm glad you did too tls. Keep going strong. Just fired me up big time- thanks! Proud to quit with someone willing to call it like it is!
Great post. That pretty much says it all.
Well said, tis, well said.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Ditto
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I appreciate all the support I've gotten so far guys. It truly has been humbling, and that's saying a lot.
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It would be helpful if you would just tell us clearly how you feel.
Yeah, I'm walking thru the shit with you, bro. And I agree we don't need excuses around here...we need balls.
DD
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I appreciate all the support I've gotten so far guys. It truly has been humbling, and that's saying a lot.
Just remember how helpful the support is and pay it forward one day. Btw you are currently paying it backward, yea that's right, by us supporting you and you supporting us, you are strengthening the quits of those who came before you. Keep rocking you quit bro.
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I appreciate the support guys.
I've come back to this thread, because I needed somewhere other than June Group to occupy my thoughts. Especially, since this is in regards to recent caves within the group.
You guys are a bunch of pussies. I don't care what happens in your life, I don't care how long you chewed for. I don't give a shit if your mom, daughter, and father all fall over dead on the same day. I don't give a shit if Fido gets run over by a fucking car. I don't give a shit your home gets foreclosed on or your car gets impounded. No matter what happens, nicotine isn't going to make it better.
You're a fucking idiot if you think nicotine is going to solve your damn problem. At this point in your quit, it's gonna fucking compound your problem. You're going to start to feel dizzy, your head is going to spin, and you won't be able to see or think straight. Then the guilt will set in. You're going to realize that you let your brothers here at KTC down. You let your wife/significant other down. You let your children down. You let everyone who you've surrounded yourself with down. The can really is more important than your dearest fucking loved ones, huh? Just remember that you let your loved ones down. Remember the look in child's eyes when they see you with the can in. Remember that your wife does think less of you as a man, now. Your wife wants a man with a back bone, a man who can stand up to life's challenges and face them down. She wants a man she can count on to support her, not the other way around.
No, I don't want you back in my fucking quit group. No, the fuck I don't. I don't give a shit. You gave up. You quit. Every other mother fucker on this site has gone through this shit, some of us 10x worse than you. You had no reason to cave, except for the fact that you are a baby backed bitch. You are a selfish mother fucker. You chose the nic bitch over every one who loves and surrounds you. You know the dangers, and risks associated with tobacco, yet you still took it. You said your word wasn't worth a damn. You said you had no will power. You said that quitting is not important to you. You specifically described just how selfish you are, without even using a single fucking word!
I don't care if you just took one dip, and it made you feel dizzy and light headed. No shit, that's what a foreign substance will do when your body is not dependent on it. I don't give a shit if you threw the rest down the toilet, or in the trash. That's not a sign of a recovering addict; that's the sign of an addict attempting to hide. I don't give a shit about any of your lame ass excuses. I don't give a flying hoot-shit and I hope none of my brothers do.
This no bullshit sort of approach is why I signed on here. I'm glad you did too tls. Keep going strong. Just fired me up big time- thanks! Proud to quit with someone willing to call it like it is!
Great post. That pretty much says it all.
Well said, tis, well said.
I gotta appreciate the rage this young quitter has. He has fire and from the looks of it has been chugging the Kool-Aid keep raging on. Need anything PM me!!!
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I appreciate the support guys.
I've come back to this thread, because I needed somewhere other than June Group to occupy my thoughts. Especially, since this is in regards to recent caves within the group.
You guys are a bunch of pussies. I don't care what happens in your life, I don't care how long you chewed for. I don't give a shit if your mom, daughter, and father all fall over dead on the same day. I don't give a shit if Fido gets run over by a fucking car. I don't give a shit your home gets foreclosed on or your car gets impounded. No matter what happens, nicotine isn't going to make it better.
You're a fucking idiot if you think nicotine is going to solve your damn problem. At this point in your quit, it's gonna fucking compound your problem. You're going to start to feel dizzy, your head is going to spin, and you won't be able to see or think straight. Then the guilt will set in. You're going to realize that you let your brothers here at KTC down. You let your wife/significant other down. You let your children down. You let everyone who you've surrounded yourself with down. The can really is more important than your dearest fucking loved ones, huh? Just remember that you let your loved ones down. Remember the look in child's eyes when they see you with the can in. Remember that your wife does think less of you as a man, now. Your wife wants a man with a back bone, a man who can stand up to life's challenges and face them down. She wants a man she can count on to support her, not the other way around.
No, I don't want you back in my fucking quit group. No, the fuck I don't. I don't give a shit. You gave up. You quit. Every other mother fucker on this site has gone through this shit, some of us 10x worse than you. You had no reason to cave, except for the fact that you are a baby backed bitch. You are a selfish mother fucker. You chose the nic bitch over every one who loves and surrounds you. You know the dangers, and risks associated with tobacco, yet you still took it. You said your word wasn't worth a damn. You said you had no will power. You said that quitting is not important to you. You specifically described just how selfish you are, without even using a single fucking word!
I don't care if you just took one dip, and it made you feel dizzy and light headed. No shit, that's what a foreign substance will do when your body is not dependent on it. I don't give a shit if you threw the rest down the toilet, or in the trash. That's not a sign of a recovering addict; that's the sign of an addict attempting to hide. I don't give a shit about any of your lame ass excuses. I don't give a flying hoot-shit and I hope none of my brothers do.
This no bullshit sort of approach is why I signed on here. I'm glad you did too tls. Keep going strong. Just fired me up big time- thanks! Proud to quit with someone willing to call it like it is!
Great post. That pretty much says it all.
Well said, tis, well said.
I gotta appreciate the rage this young quitter has. He has fire and from the looks of it has been chugging the Kool-Aid keep raging on. Need anything PM me!!!
I hear ya brother. These half-assers who skip roll all the time piss me off too. The key is to focus on the guys who are committed to posting every damn day, just like you. You guys are here in the trenches together fighting through this shit and supporting each other. Keep posting roll every damn day and remember the guys who are doing the same. They are counting on you!
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Proud to be quit with you TLS. Thanks for the support encouragement and passion for what we're doing here. Means a lot to me!
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I don't know if I'm in the right place to post this and for that matter, I don't know if this is going to post period. I have been 6 days free of grizzly after 22 years. I don't understand this site and I don't understand roll call but I'm so thankful of this site. Just scrolling Around and reading peoples post has helped me out a great deal in this short 6 day battle I am going thru. I'm sorry if I did this in the wrong spot. Just wanted to express my gratefulness for this wonderful forum.
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You gotta a response for the Jun 14 thread post? Do you have an answer for your antics? It was a bullshit move. You dont give an addict a sliver of daylight especially people that are new w their quit!
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You gotta a response for the Jun 14 thread post? Do you have an answer for your antics? It was a bullshit move. You dont give an addict a sliver of daylight especially people that are new w their quit!
I honestly don't know that ANY answer would redeem that post. IMO... You need to be gone. That was a sick piece of work...
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You gotta a response for the Jun 14 thread post? Do you have an answer for your antics? It was a bullshit move. You dont give an addict a sliver of daylight especially people that are new w their quit!
I honestly don't know that ANY answer would redeem that post. IMO... You need to be gone. That was a sick piece of work...
TLS What you did yesterday in our quit group was bull shit. What the fuck is wrong with you. I hope there is an apology and an explanation. Congrats on letting your brothers down you fuck.
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You gotta a response for the Jun 14 thread post? Do you have an answer for your antics? It was a bullshit move. You dont give an addict a sliver of daylight especially people that are new w their quit!
I honestly don't know that ANY answer would redeem that post. IMO... You need to be gone. That was a sick piece of work...
TLS What you did yesterday in our quit group was bull shit. What the fuck is wrong with you. I hope there is an apology and an explanation. Congrats on letting your brothers down you fuck.
Nicotine is a wicked beast. A formidable opponent. I worked daily to beat my addiction but lost my fight every day for 25 years, and I don't work to lose. This site and the accountability and brotherhood finally gave me the ability to build a toolbox so that I could start winning. Winning is a team effort on ktc... You can't win alone. Build up the brotherhood and call out bullshit when it needs to be called out. But don't fire shotguns in a room full of people just to hear the noise....
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You gotta a response for the Jun 14 thread post? Do you have an answer for your antics? It was a bullshit move. You dont give an addict a sliver of daylight especially people that are new w their quit!
I honestly don't know that ANY answer would redeem that post. IMO... You need to be gone. That was a sick piece of work...
TLS What you did yesterday in our quit group was bull shit. What the fuck is wrong with you. I hope there is an apology and an explanation. Congrats on letting your brothers down you fuck.
Nicotine is a wicked beast. A formidable opponent. I worked daily to beat my addiction but lost my fight every day for 25 years, and I don't work to lose. This site and the accountability and brotherhood finally gave me the ability to build a toolbox so that I could start winning. Winning is a team effort on ktc... You can't win alone. Build up the brotherhood and call out bullshit when it needs to be called out. But don't fire shotguns in a room full of people just to hear the noise....
This site is built on brotherhood and accountability. Brotherhood means you help your brothers stay quit. You help your brothers when they really need it. I read that post and I'm thinking you were way off base. Probably a real bad joke, maybe drunk or something along those lines.
Alone you might as well not be here. A sincere apology might work for some, I don't know about everyone.
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You gotta a response for the Jun 14 thread post? Do you have an answer for your antics? It was a bullshit move. You dont give an addict a sliver of daylight especially people that are new w their quit!
I honestly don't know that ANY answer would redeem that post. IMO... You need to be gone. That was a sick piece of work...
TLS What you did yesterday in our quit group was bull shit. What the fuck is wrong with you. I hope there is an apology and an explanation. Congrats on letting your brothers down you fuck.
Nicotine is a wicked beast. A formidable opponent. I worked daily to beat my addiction but lost my fight every day for 25 years, and I don't work to lose. This site and the accountability and brotherhood finally gave me the ability to build a toolbox so that I could start winning. Winning is a team effort on ktc... You can't win alone. Build up the brotherhood and call out bullshit when it needs to be called out. But don't fire shotguns in a room full of people just to hear the noise....
This site is built on brotherhood and accountability. Brotherhood means you help your brothers stay quit. You help your brothers when they really need it. I read that post and I'm thinking you were way off base. Probably a real bad joke, maybe drunk or something along those lines.
Alone you might as well not be here. A sincere apology might work for some, I don't know about everyone.
This guy doesn't have the sack or the humility to make an apology. His rant about caving from a week ago; also off base. Some of the best quitters in this brotherhood have caved at one point.
You just don't get it kid.
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You gotta a response for the Jun 14 thread post? Do you have an answer for your antics? It was a bullshit move. You dont give an addict a sliver of daylight especially people that are new w their quit!
I honestly don't know that ANY answer would redeem that post. IMO... You need to be gone. That was a sick piece of work...
TLS What you did yesterday in our quit group was bull shit. What the fuck is wrong with you. I hope there is an apology and an explanation. Congrats on letting your brothers down you fuck.
Nicotine is a wicked beast. A formidable opponent. I worked daily to beat my addiction but lost my fight every day for 25 years, and I don't work to lose. This site and the accountability and brotherhood finally gave me the ability to build a toolbox so that I could start winning. Winning is a team effort on ktc... You can't win alone. Build up the brotherhood and call out bullshit when it needs to be called out. But don't fire shotguns in a room full of people just to hear the noise....
This site is built on brotherhood and accountability. Brotherhood means you help your brothers stay quit. You help your brothers when they really need it. I read that post and I'm thinking you were way off base. Probably a real bad joke, maybe drunk or something along those lines.
Alone you might as well not be here. A sincere apology might work for some, I don't know about everyone.
This guy doesn't have the sack or the humility to make an apology. His rant about caving from a week ago; also off base. Some of the best quitters in this brotherhood have caved at one point.
You just don't get it kid.
Anyone who does something to negatively impact the quits of his brothers, and doesn't have the balls to answer multiple requests to explain himself should be gone.
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You gotta a response for the Jun 14 thread post? Do you have an answer for your antics? It was a bullshit move. You dont give an addict a sliver of daylight especially people that are new w their quit!
I honestly don't know that ANY answer would redeem that post. IMO... You need to be gone. That was a sick piece of work...
TLS What you did yesterday in our quit group was bull shit. What the fuck is wrong with you. I hope there is an apology and an explanation. Congrats on letting your brothers down you fuck.
Nicotine is a wicked beast. A formidable opponent. I worked daily to beat my addiction but lost my fight every day for 25 years, and I don't work to lose. This site and the accountability and brotherhood finally gave me the ability to build a toolbox so that I could start winning. Winning is a team effort on ktc... You can't win alone. Build up the brotherhood and call out bullshit when it needs to be called out. But don't fire shotguns in a room full of people just to hear the noise....
This site is built on brotherhood and accountability. Brotherhood means you help your brothers stay quit. You help your brothers when they really need it. I read that post and I'm thinking you were way off base. Probably a real bad joke, maybe drunk or something along those lines.
Alone you might as well not be here. A sincere apology might work for some, I don't know about everyone.
This guy doesn't have the sack or the humility to make an apology. His rant about caving from a week ago; also off base. Some of the best quitters in this brotherhood have caved at one point.
You just don't get it kid.
Anyone who does something to negatively impact the quits of his brothers, and doesn't have the balls to answer multiple requests to explain himself should be gone.
The shitty part about getting liquored up is that the reality of the situation is still there. We are waiting! :angry:
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index.php?show...postp=23129036 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=9580&view=findpost&p=23129036)
Live and grow man.
You apologized. Make your amends, and forget about it.
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index.php?show...postp=23129036 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=9580&view=findpost&p=23129036)
Live and grow man.
You apologized. Make your amends, and forget about it.
A face your fears kind of approach. I now get it but you and I are almost the same days quit. A newbie could have seen this as an invite to cave. Glad your still quit. Just love stirring the shit pot don't ya.
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index.php?show...postp=23129036 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=9580&view=findpost&p=23129036)
Live and grow man.
You apologized. Make your amends, and forget about it.
A face your fears kind of approach. I now get it but you and I are almost the same days quit. A newbie could have seen this as an invite to cave. Glad your still quit. Just love stirring the shit pot don't ya.
Proud to quit with you again today.
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index.php?show...postp=23129036 (http://forum.killthecan.org/index.php?showtopic=9580&view=findpost&p=23129036)
Live and grow man.
You apologized. Make your amends, and forget about it.
A face your fears kind of approach. I now get it but you and I are almost the same days quit. A newbie could have seen this as an invite to cave. Glad your still quit. Just love stirring the shit pot don't ya.
Proud to quit with you again today.
Another day at ktc,,, quit on.
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This should be here too so you can reflect on this if every you feel like trying a stunt like that again.
QUOTE (Roamcountry @ Mar 29, 2014, 11:17 am)
QUOTE (tls37010 @ Mar 29, 2014, 10:05 am)
An explanation is due. I agree. The intent behind that post was never to troll, bait, or whatever. The post is not a joke. I did not cave, nor did I explicitly search a tobacco review site for that image - I searched google images. I had every intention of coming back last night and posting. I never intended to let it get out of control.
My point was, if you are going to cave to a picture of tobacco and a few words of text here, in your strongest place, then what is that going to do to you in the real world. In my first 27 days of being quit, I have learned a lot of things. I have learned that if I run and hide from the nic bitch, then I am destined to fail. I have seen and experienced what happens first hand when you sit and pretend that tobacco doesn't exist. It is pure luck that my quit is still strong today and that I have managed to make it to day 27.
I have faced it down so many times in situations where it creeped up on me that it isn't even funny. I often didn't know what to do in those situations, except get away. But, what happens when you can't get away? I wish I had an answer for that, but I don't. The best thing you can do is go into every situation with a plan. My point being - sitting here and pretending tobacco doesn't exist often doesn't help us in the weakest of times.
That in so many words was the point I was intending to make last night. I never intended for it to get out of control. I'm sorry that I let it get to that point. Hell, I'm sorry I probably went too far in trying to make my point. That said I was trying to make a motivational post essentially getting at that everyone needs a plan going into the weekend, else they are doomed for failure.
I never intended to ignore anyone - my phone is usually logged into KTC as is my laptop, so that is probably why it showed me as active. I was not sitting there and watching shit burn. Once again I'm apologize that I went about it that way - I truly meant for it to go in a completley opposite direction
Alright, next time find a better way to enter such discussions rather than tell people to cave. Its simply not conducive to what we are trying to accomplish here.....
Quit on.
^This^
Take your quit serious, and take your brothers' quits serious.
If you do, this program will work. Trust me.
A core concept of the KTC is that I trust that (in times of need) I can type some words or pick up the phone and SOMEBODY knows and cares what I'm going through. SOMEBODY will take a moment of their day to say "What can I do?" or just listen to you rant.
I've seen similar posts on this site, but I've never seen them unprovoked. Please don't do it again. That's not how we play here.
And, please be aware of what you post to this site. If you know anything about Google, you know that linking site's together makes it's rank go higher. It also associates us with that abortion of a site, and we don't want that.
This should be here too so you can reflect on this if every you feel like trying a stunt like that again.
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i did your thread a favor and didn't hit send on what i just had written...good day...i'm so glad i wasn't around this site when you posted that shit. hope you have figured out what this is all about...oh and by the way...i'm the guy you told off on my first day, called me a motherfucker, that you didn't care about my quit and to get out of "your" group. but i quit with you today...
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Tls - how goes your quit? We've missed you the past few days and just wanted to make sure you are still going strong.
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Tls, I have posted support with you every day, you with me many days. You had some bad ass post, then that fucked up post, then radio silence, then a cave. You had 47 days quit. Yet today your gonna post day one. Damn bro, this is your life, your self respect, your integrity, your pride, and most of all your freedom. Quit fucking around and quit. Learn from this and don't repeat! Erussell day 357
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Tls, I have posted support with you every day, you with me many days. You had some bad ass post, then that fucked up post, then radio silence, then a cave. You had 47 days quit. Yet today your gonna post day one. Damn bro, this is your life, your self respect, your integrity, your pride, and most of all your freedom. Quit fucking around and quit. Learn from this and don't repeat! Erussell day 357
Ditto every word from erussell. Every word. Jump back in. Now.
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Tls, I have posted support with you every day, you with me many days. You had some bad ass post, then that fucked up post, then radio silence, then a cave. You had 47 days quit. Yet today your gonna post day one. Damn bro, this is your life, your self respect, your integrity, your pride, and most of all your freedom. Quit fucking around and quit. Learn from this and don't repeat! Erussell day 357
Ditto every word from erussell. Every word. Jump back in. Now.
are we fucking kidding here? This guy caved? Well...let me tell you...jump back in and quit. you don't like me, that's fine, i don't care much for you either, but i care about your quit. one day at a time...did you not have anyone's number? who is your lifeline when you get into a pinch? maybe if you don't, you should find that person.
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Tls, I have posted support with you every day, you with me many days. You had some bad ass post, then that fucked up post, then radio silence, then a cave. You had 47 days quit. Yet today your gonna post day one. Damn bro, this is your life, your self respect, your integrity, your pride, and most of all your freedom. Quit fucking around and quit. Learn from this and don't repeat! Erussell day 357
Ditto every word from erussell. Every word. Jump back in. Now.
are we fucking kidding here? This guy caved? Well...let me tell you...jump back in and quit. you don't like me, that's fine, i don't care much for you either, but i care about your quit. one day at a time...did you not have anyone's number? who is your lifeline when you get into a pinch? maybe if you don't, you should find that person.
Ive been in this guys shoes. He doesn't give a shit. If he did, he would of reached out, he wouldnt of dipped. ODAAT TLS. No more day 1's bro. Figure out what you want to do. If you want to quit, then quit. There are no slip ups here
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Tls, I have posted support with you every day, you with me many days. You had some bad ass post, then that fucked up post, then radio silence, then a cave. You had 47 days quit. Yet today your gonna post day one. Damn bro, this is your life, your self respect, your integrity, your pride, and most of all your freedom. Quit fucking around and quit. Learn from this and don't repeat! Erussell day 357
Ditto every word from erussell. Every word. Jump back in. Now.
are we fucking kidding here? This guy caved? Well...let me tell you...jump back in and quit. you don't like me, that's fine, i don't care much for you either, but i care about your quit. one day at a time...did you not have anyone's number? who is your lifeline when you get into a pinch? maybe if you don't, you should find that person.
Ive been in this guys shoes. He doesn't give a shit. If he did, he would of reached out, he wouldnt of dipped. ODAAT TLS. No more day 1's bro. Figure out what you want to do. If you want to quit, then quit. There are no slip ups here
Are you kidding me????
Grow some nuts unless you want your tongue replaced with part of your calf muscle.
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What happened
I caved. I smoked a cigarette early Sunday AM at the bars. My good friend came back home into town on leave from the Marine Corps, and a bunch of old friends went out and got piss fucking drunk. I honestly didn't think much of going out and getting piss drunk, because I had done so so many times before in the last 47ish days. I asked another buddy for a cigarette and he obliged. Yesterday, when I asked him why he obliged - he shook his head and said, "meh, I gave you one a few weeks ago too when you were drinking". That was the point I knew I needed to come here and post a day one. I don't recall that other cigarette and the fact that I am so consistently asking for one when drunk shows I have a major major problem on multiple accounts.
I didn't text anyone, I didn't pull out a contract and read it over, I didn't get on my phone and cruise through KTC. I threw up absolutely zero defense mechanisms. I sat outside with an old friend and drunkenly polluted the early missouri morning air. I'm not sure what got into me.
Why it happened
Forgive me if this is a bit on the long side, as well as if it comes off as a bit of rambling - I'm going to post my raw unedited thoughts in regards to this.
I think I came into this quit with the wrong attitude. Sure, I did try to read and learn some, but looking back there seemed to be a limit on what I took in and was willing to learn. I specifically remember jumping up a few people's asses (I jumped up a lot of asses - some I still contend deserved it) who were really in the right. I remember one vet telling me I seriously needed to essentially adjust my attitude. I agree. I think I had half of the quit attitude down - the steel willed balls to the wall attitude knocked out of the park - I know this because I remember a night where a buddy and I split an entire bottle of Single Barrel Jack Daniels and I spent the entire night with my fists clenched staring at the wall avoiding nicotine use. I know I didn't use that night, and I feel like that was a testament to the balls to the wall attitude I subscribed to. That said that attitude was wrong. Like it has been said time and time again - we can't do this alone, we must be vigilant, and we must be smart. On many of occasions I was none of those. That doesn't apply to just the time where I caved, but also many other times.
I also think there is an elephant in room in regards to this whole situation. I'm starting to think I have a problem with alcohol - somewhat laughable coming from a 21 year old in college. I read once though that you don't have to use it everyday or every other day to be considered a problem drinker - I think that statement holds a lot of value. It seems that nearly every weekend I have an excuse to go out and get tore the fuck up both Friday and Saturday night, with some Thursdays smattered in there. It doesn't seem to matter if I have class at 9am the next morning, it's drill weekend or what. I always have an excuse to get fucking shit faced beyond the point of no fucking control. The sad part is the 2-3 times a week is comparably less than last semester when it was honestly 5-6 nights a week I'd get blasted off my ass. Hell, here recently I've even started driving, which is an entirely new low for me - I've NEVER done so in the past. I need to get this shit under control - majorly. I don't know - is it a problem. I certainly do know although alcohol didn't create the cave, it created the opportunity and justification for the cave. I honestly, hate the shit almost as much I hate nicotine, yet I still keep going back to it. That said, I feel like if I told anyone in my real life about my feelings in this regard that I'd be laughed out of the room. Alcohol is so widely accepted and used that such talk for a 21 year old college student is ridiculous. The fact that I was willing to endanger my quit so frequently only furthers this.
Beyond that and delving back into the attitude problem - I don't think I really wanted to quit when I started. I've mentioned this a couple of times, but I sat there and romanticized the shit on multiple occasions. I think this reminiscing was a huge factor - I still hang out to this day with a multitude of friends who were around and whom I helped to start their addictions through peer pressure. I need to quit looking at it as if we are sharing something in common. Hell I ran into an old friend who I hadn't seen in years this weekend. I didn't realize he chewed, yet even after 47 days of quit, I still talked to him about it. I still told him how I used to chew etc. I should have been telling him about how I quit, how long I've been quit, how KTC helped me.
Going back to why I didn't contact anybody - I think I got too comfortable in my quit. I said, fuck it, it's just one cig. Hell, I think part of me expected my friend to turn me down. That said, that's not his fucking job. I make my own decisions, and I need to be held responsible for them. It was my decision to go out that night and it was also my decision to go out completely unprepared.
What I am going to do differently next time
Honestly, I think the biggest part of this quit going forward is completely changing my attitude. Yes, I can still keep the balls to the wall attitude I had previously, but I need to tweak a number of things. I need to be willing to consistently and constantly learn in my quit and never stop learning - vigilance is going to be key. The nic bitch is always going to be there ready and waiting - I need to be ready and waiting as well. I have to start learning more, and not just for the next couple of weeks like last time. I need to learn continuously for the rest of my quit.
I don't think I was approachable enough with fellow group members either. Sure, I had the 4-5 people I texted with somewhat regularly, but that was never an EVERYDAY thing like it should have been. I didn't allow my quit to ever get completely IN MY FACE, so to speak. I texted when I needed to, but never just a hey good morning etc. Sure I was on chat, but often times especially in the early days my time spent on chat and the forums was spent arguing over petty shit. That surely didn't make people want to hold me accountable - after all who wants to get their head bitten off? I certainly don't. I need to get more numbers or use the ones I have more consistently. I need to use the lifelines given to me more often and consistently. I need to completely change my attitude in that regard - I'm not weak for reaching out. I'm no less of a person, I need to reach out more often than when I'm in dire trouble.
I also need to start getting my alcohol usage under control - I'm not saying I need to stop completely, but I certainly need to stop drinking myself under the table at every stupid dumb ass excuse I run across. Over the next week or so I plan on looking more into how to effectively tackle that bear - I imagine it will be in a very very similar manner as to how I need to continue to beat the nic bitch down.
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What happened
I caved. I smoked a cigarette early Sunday AM at the bars. My good friend came back home into town on leave from the Marine Corps, and a bunch of old friends went out and got piss fucking drunk. I honestly didn't think much of going out and getting piss drunk, because I had done so so many times before in the last 47ish days. I asked another buddy for a cigarette and he obliged. Yesterday, when I asked him why he obliged - he shook his head and said, "meh, I gave you one a few weeks ago too when you were drinking". That was the point I knew I needed to come here and post a day one. I don't recall that other cigarette and the fact that I am so consistently asking for one when drunk shows I have a major major problem on multiple accounts.
I didn't text anyone, I didn't pull out a contract and read it over, I didn't get on my phone and cruise through KTC. I threw up absolutely zero defense mechanisms. I sat outside with an old friend and drunkenly polluted the early missouri morning air. I'm not sure what got into me.
Why it happened
Forgive me if this is a bit on the long side, as well as if it comes off as a bit of rambling - I'm going to post my raw unedited thoughts in regards to this.
I think I came into this quit with the wrong attitude. Sure, I did try to read and learn some, but looking back there seemed to be a limit on what I took in and was willing to learn. I specifically remember jumping up a few people's asses (I jumped up a lot of asses - some I still contend deserved it) who were really in the right. I remember one vet telling me I seriously needed to essentially adjust my attitude. I agree. I think I had half of the quit attitude down - the steel willed balls to the wall attitude knocked out of the park - I know this because I remember a night where a buddy and I split an entire bottle of Single Barrel Jack Daniels and I spent the entire night with my fists clenched staring at the wall avoiding nicotine use. I know I didn't use that night, and I feel like that was a testament to the balls to the wall attitude I subscribed to. That said that attitude was wrong. Like it has been said time and time again - we can't do this alone, we must be vigilant, and we must be smart. On many of occasions I was none of those. That doesn't apply to just the time where I caved, but also many other times.
I also think there is an elephant in room in regards to this whole situation. I'm starting to think I have a problem with alcohol - somewhat laughable coming from a 21 year old in college. I read once though that you don't have to use it everyday or every other day to be considered a problem drinker - I think that statement holds a lot of value. It seems that nearly every weekend I have an excuse to go out and get tore the fuck up both Friday and Saturday night, with some Thursdays smattered in there. It doesn't seem to matter if I have class at 9am the next morning, it's drill weekend or what. I always have an excuse to get fucking shit faced beyond the point of no fucking control. The sad part is the 2-3 times a week is comparably less than last semester when it was honestly 5-6 nights a week I'd get blasted off my ass. Hell, here recently I've even started driving, which is an entirely new low for me - I've NEVER done so in the past. I need to get this shit under control - majorly. I don't know - is it a problem. I certainly do know although alcohol didn't create the cave, it created the opportunity and justification for the cave. I honestly, hate the shit almost as much I hate nicotine, yet I still keep going back to it. That said, I feel like if I told anyone in my real life about my feelings in this regard that I'd be laughed out of the room. Alcohol is so widely accepted and used that such talk for a 21 year old college student is ridiculous. The fact that I was willing to endanger my quit so frequently only furthers this.
Beyond that and delving back into the attitude problem - I don't think I really wanted to quit when I started. I've mentioned this a couple of times, but I sat there and romanticized the shit on multiple occasions. I think this reminiscing was a huge factor - I still hang out to this day with a multitude of friends who were around and whom I helped to start their addictions through peer pressure. I need to quit looking at it as if we are sharing something in common. Hell I ran into an old friend who I hadn't seen in years this weekend. I didn't realize he chewed, yet even after 47 days of quit, I still talked to him about it. I still told him how I used to chew etc. I should have been telling him about how I quit, how long I've been quit, how KTC helped me.
Going back to why I didn't contact anybody - I think I got too comfortable in my quit. I said, fuck it, it's just one cig. Hell, I think part of me expected my friend to turn me down. That said, that's not his fucking job. I make my own decisions, and I need to be held responsible for them. It was my decision to go out that night and it was also my decision to go out completely unprepared.
What I am going to do differently next time
Honestly, I think the biggest part of this quit going forward is completely changing my attitude. Yes, I can still keep the balls to the wall attitude I had previously, but I need to tweak a number of things. I need to be willing to consistently and constantly learn in my quit and never stop learning - vigilance is going to be key. The nic bitch is always going to be there ready and waiting - I need to be ready and waiting as well. I have to start learning more, and not just for the next couple of weeks like last time. I need to learn continuously for the rest of my quit.
I don't think I was approachable enough with fellow group members either. Sure, I had the 4-5 people I texted with somewhat regularly, but that was never an EVERYDAY thing like it should have been. I didn't allow my quit to ever get completely IN MY FACE, so to speak. I texted when I needed to, but never just a hey good morning etc. Sure I was on chat, but often times especially in the early days my time spent on chat and the forums was spent arguing over petty shit. That surely didn't make people want to hold me accountable - after all who wants to get their head bitten off? I certainly don't. I need to get more numbers or use the ones I have more consistently. I need to use the lifelines given to me more often and consistently. I need to completely change my attitude in that regard - I'm not weak for reaching out. I'm no less of a person, I need to reach out more often than when I'm in dire trouble.
I also need to start getting my alcohol usage under control - I'm not saying I need to stop completely, but I certainly need to stop drinking myself under the table at every stupid dumb ass excuse I run across. Over the next week or so I plan on looking more into how to effectively tackle that bear - I imagine it will be in a very very similar manner as to how I need to continue to beat the nic bitch down.
Weak ass. Juvenile. Betrayer.
Why don't you go start a quit group with davidumb. One where you can post daily, but still get to smoke the occasional cigarette if your hooch doesn't come in or if you get sooooo drunk. It'll probably be ok if you post pics of dudes dipping there too.
Douchebagkid. Grow some fucking nut hair.
Vadge 829. I will not use today.
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What happened
I caved. I smoked a cigarette early Sunday AM at the bars. My good friend came back home into town on leave from the Marine Corps, and a bunch of old friends went out and got piss fucking drunk. I honestly didn't think much of going out and getting piss drunk, because I had done so so many times before in the last 47ish days. I asked another buddy for a cigarette and he obliged. Yesterday, when I asked him why he obliged - he shook his head and said, "meh, I gave you one a few weeks ago too when you were drinking". That was the point I knew I needed to come here and post a day one. I don't recall that other cigarette and the fact that I am so consistently asking for one when drunk shows I have a major major problem on multiple accounts.
I didn't text anyone, I didn't pull out a contract and read it over, I didn't get on my phone and cruise through KTC. I threw up absolutely zero defense mechanisms. I sat outside with an old friend and drunkenly polluted the early missouri morning air. I'm not sure what got into me.
Why it happened
Forgive me if this is a bit on the long side, as well as if it comes off as a bit of rambling - I'm going to post my raw unedited thoughts in regards to this.
I think I came into this quit with the wrong attitude. Sure, I did try to read and learn some, but looking back there seemed to be a limit on what I took in and was willing to learn. I specifically remember jumping up a few people's asses (I jumped up a lot of asses - some I still contend deserved it) who were really in the right. I remember one vet telling me I seriously needed to essentially adjust my attitude. I agree. I think I had half of the quit attitude down - the steel willed balls to the wall attitude knocked out of the park - I know this because I remember a night where a buddy and I split an entire bottle of Single Barrel Jack Daniels and I spent the entire night with my fists clenched staring at the wall avoiding nicotine use. I know I didn't use that night, and I feel like that was a testament to the balls to the wall attitude I subscribed to. That said that attitude was wrong. Like it has been said time and time again - we can't do this alone, we must be vigilant, and we must be smart. On many of occasions I was none of those. That doesn't apply to just the time where I caved, but also many other times.
I also think there is an elephant in room in regards to this whole situation. I'm starting to think I have a problem with alcohol - somewhat laughable coming from a 21 year old in college. I read once though that you don't have to use it everyday or every other day to be considered a problem drinker - I think that statement holds a lot of value. It seems that nearly every weekend I have an excuse to go out and get tore the fuck up both Friday and Saturday night, with some Thursdays smattered in there. It doesn't seem to matter if I have class at 9am the next morning, it's drill weekend or what. I always have an excuse to get fucking shit faced beyond the point of no fucking control. The sad part is the 2-3 times a week is comparably less than last semester when it was honestly 5-6 nights a week I'd get blasted off my ass. Hell, here recently I've even started driving, which is an entirely new low for me - I've NEVER done so in the past. I need to get this shit under control - majorly. I don't know - is it a problem. I certainly do know although alcohol didn't create the cave, it created the opportunity and justification for the cave. I honestly, hate the shit almost as much I hate nicotine, yet I still keep going back to it. That said, I feel like if I told anyone in my real life about my feelings in this regard that I'd be laughed out of the room. Alcohol is so widely accepted and used that such talk for a 21 year old college student is ridiculous. The fact that I was willing to endanger my quit so frequently only furthers this.
Beyond that and delving back into the attitude problem - I don't think I really wanted to quit when I started. I've mentioned this a couple of times, but I sat there and romanticized the shit on multiple occasions. I think this reminiscing was a huge factor - I still hang out to this day with a multitude of friends who were around and whom I helped to start their addictions through peer pressure. I need to quit looking at it as if we are sharing something in common. Hell I ran into an old friend who I hadn't seen in years this weekend. I didn't realize he chewed, yet even after 47 days of quit, I still talked to him about it. I still told him how I used to chew etc. I should have been telling him about how I quit, how long I've been quit, how KTC helped me.
Going back to why I didn't contact anybody - I think I got too comfortable in my quit. I said, fuck it, it's just one cig. Hell, I think part of me expected my friend to turn me down. That said, that's not his fucking job. I make my own decisions, and I need to be held responsible for them. It was my decision to go out that night and it was also my decision to go out completely unprepared.
What I am going to do differently next time
Honestly, I think the biggest part of this quit going forward is completely changing my attitude. Yes, I can still keep the balls to the wall attitude I had previously, but I need to tweak a number of things. I need to be willing to consistently and constantly learn in my quit and never stop learning - vigilance is going to be key. The nic bitch is always going to be there ready and waiting - I need to be ready and waiting as well. I have to start learning more, and not just for the next couple of weeks like last time. I need to learn continuously for the rest of my quit.
I don't think I was approachable enough with fellow group members either. Sure, I had the 4-5 people I texted with somewhat regularly, but that was never an EVERYDAY thing like it should have been. I didn't allow my quit to ever get completely IN MY FACE, so to speak. I texted when I needed to, but never just a hey good morning etc. Sure I was on chat, but often times especially in the early days my time spent on chat and the forums was spent arguing over petty shit. That surely didn't make people want to hold me accountable - after all who wants to get their head bitten off? I certainly don't. I need to get more numbers or use the ones I have more consistently. I need to use the lifelines given to me more often and consistently. I need to completely change my attitude in that regard - I'm not weak for reaching out. I'm no less of a person, I need to reach out more often than when I'm in dire trouble.
I also need to start getting my alcohol usage under control - I'm not saying I need to stop completely, but I certainly need to stop drinking myself under the table at every stupid dumb ass excuse I run across. Over the next week or so I plan on looking more into how to effectively tackle that bear - I imagine it will be in a very very similar manner as to how I need to continue to beat the nic bitch down.
TLS I quit with you today
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Weak ass. Juvenile. Betrayer.
Why don't you go start a quit group with davidumb. One where you can post daily, but still get to smoke the occasional cigarette if your hooch doesn't come in or if you get sooooo drunk. It'll probably be ok if you post pics of dudes dipping there too.
Douchebagkid. Grow some fucking nut hair.
Vadge 829. I will not use today.
I'll grow some fucking nut hair when you grow some fucking pussy hair.
tls37010. Day 1. I will not use today.
Not sure what you're really trying to accomplish with this post man.
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TLS I quit with you today
I appreciate that brother. I really do.
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What happened
I caved. I smoked a cigarette early Sunday AM at the bars. My good friend came back home into town on leave from the Marine Corps, and a bunch of old friends went out and got piss fucking drunk. I honestly didn't think much of going out and getting piss drunk, because I had done so so many times before in the last 47ish days. I asked another buddy for a cigarette and he obliged. Yesterday, when I asked him why he obliged - he shook his head and said, "meh, I gave you one a few weeks ago too when you were drinking". That was the point I knew I needed to come here and post a day one. I don't recall that other cigarette and the fact that I am so consistently asking for one when drunk shows I have a major major problem on multiple accounts.
I didn't text anyone, I didn't pull out a contract and read it over, I didn't get on my phone and cruise through KTC. I threw up absolutely zero defense mechanisms. I sat outside with an old friend and drunkenly polluted the early missouri morning air. I'm not sure what got into me.
Why it happened
Forgive me if this is a bit on the long side, as well as if it comes off as a bit of rambling - I'm going to post my raw unedited thoughts in regards to this.
I think I came into this quit with the wrong attitude. Sure, I did try to read and learn some, but looking back there seemed to be a limit on what I took in and was willing to learn. I specifically remember jumping up a few people's asses (I jumped up a lot of asses - some I still contend deserved it) who were really in the right. I remember one vet telling me I seriously needed to essentially adjust my attitude. I agree. I think I had half of the quit attitude down - the steel willed balls to the wall attitude knocked out of the park - I know this because I remember a night where a buddy and I split an entire bottle of Single Barrel Jack Daniels and I spent the entire night with my fists clenched staring at the wall avoiding nicotine use. I know I didn't use that night, and I feel like that was a testament to the balls to the wall attitude I subscribed to. That said that attitude was wrong. Like it has been said time and time again - we can't do this alone, we must be vigilant, and we must be smart. On many of occasions I was none of those. That doesn't apply to just the time where I caved, but also many other times.
I also think there is an elephant in room in regards to this whole situation. I'm starting to think I have a problem with alcohol - somewhat laughable coming from a 21 year old in college. I read once though that you don't have to use it everyday or every other day to be considered a problem drinker - I think that statement holds a lot of value. It seems that nearly every weekend I have an excuse to go out and get tore the fuck up both Friday and Saturday night, with some Thursdays smattered in there. It doesn't seem to matter if I have class at 9am the next morning, it's drill weekend or what. I always have an excuse to get fucking shit faced beyond the point of no fucking control. The sad part is the 2-3 times a week is comparably less than last semester when it was honestly 5-6 nights a week I'd get blasted off my ass. Hell, here recently I've even started driving, which is an entirely new low for me - I've NEVER done so in the past. I need to get this shit under control - majorly. I don't know - is it a problem. I certainly do know although alcohol didn't create the cave, it created the opportunity and justification for the cave. I honestly, hate the shit almost as much I hate nicotine, yet I still keep going back to it. That said, I feel like if I told anyone in my real life about my feelings in this regard that I'd be laughed out of the room. Alcohol is so widely accepted and used that such talk for a 21 year old college student is ridiculous. The fact that I was willing to endanger my quit so frequently only furthers this.
Beyond that and delving back into the attitude problem - I don't think I really wanted to quit when I started. I've mentioned this a couple of times, but I sat there and romanticized the shit on multiple occasions. I think this reminiscing was a huge factor - I still hang out to this day with a multitude of friends who were around and whom I helped to start their addictions through peer pressure. I need to quit looking at it as if we are sharing something in common. Hell I ran into an old friend who I hadn't seen in years this weekend. I didn't realize he chewed, yet even after 47 days of quit, I still talked to him about it. I still told him how I used to chew etc. I should have been telling him about how I quit, how long I've been quit, how KTC helped me.
Going back to why I didn't contact anybody - I think I got too comfortable in my quit. I said, fuck it, it's just one cig. Hell, I think part of me expected my friend to turn me down. That said, that's not his fucking job. I make my own decisions, and I need to be held responsible for them. It was my decision to go out that night and it was also my decision to go out completely unprepared.
What I am going to do differently next time
Honestly, I think the biggest part of this quit going forward is completely changing my attitude. Yes, I can still keep the balls to the wall attitude I had previously, but I need to tweak a number of things. I need to be willing to consistently and constantly learn in my quit and never stop learning - vigilance is going to be key. The nic bitch is always going to be there ready and waiting - I need to be ready and waiting as well. I have to start learning more, and not just for the next couple of weeks like last time. I need to learn continuously for the rest of my quit.
I don't think I was approachable enough with fellow group members either. Sure, I had the 4-5 people I texted with somewhat regularly, but that was never an EVERYDAY thing like it should have been. I didn't allow my quit to ever get completely IN MY FACE, so to speak. I texted when I needed to, but never just a hey good morning etc. Sure I was on chat, but often times especially in the early days my time spent on chat and the forums was spent arguing over petty shit. That surely didn't make people want to hold me accountable - after all who wants to get their head bitten off? I certainly don't. I need to get more numbers or use the ones I have more consistently. I need to use the lifelines given to me more often and consistently. I need to completely change my attitude in that regard - I'm not weak for reaching out. I'm no less of a person, I need to reach out more often than when I'm in dire trouble.
I also need to start getting my alcohol usage under control - I'm not saying I need to stop completely, but I certainly need to stop drinking myself under the table at every stupid dumb ass excuse I run across. Over the next week or so I plan on looking more into how to effectively tackle that bear - I imagine it will be in a very very similar manner as to how I need to continue to beat the nic bitch down.
TLS I quit with you today
Hey brother, I'm also quit with you today.. Thank you for the great post of three questions. I am SURE it will help me and others down the line. It will help you also.
Quit hard
Wolfe
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Weak ass. Juvenile. Betrayer.
Why don't you go start a quit group with davidumb. One where you can post daily, but still get to smoke the occasional cigarette if your hooch doesn't come in or if you get sooooo drunk. It'll probably be ok if you post pics of dudes dipping there too.
Douchebagkid. Grow some fucking nut hair.
Vadge 829. I will not use today.
I'll grow some fucking nut hair when you grow some fucking pussy hair.
tls37010. Day 1. I will not use today.
Not sure what you're really trying to accomplish with this post man.
We need another website for caver pussies like you TLS. It's getting out of hand. Maybe a minor league for attempting to quit. A place for stoppers who just can't hack being quit and making a daily promise. How hard is it to quit one day at a time and avoid sticking nicotine in your fucking face? It's ridiculous. It's not just you TLS. ITS ANYONE WHO CAVES LIKE THIS. THERE SHOULD BE CONSEQUENCES FOR THIS WEAK ASS BEHAVIOR.
I'll believe you're quit when I see it. Good luck, you'll need it mr do over.
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Weak ass. Juvenile. Betrayer.
Why don't you go start a quit group with davidumb. One where you can post daily, but still get to smoke the occasional cigarette if your hooch doesn't come in or if you get sooooo drunk. It'll probably be ok if you post pics of dudes dipping there too.
Douchebagkid. Grow some fucking nut hair.
Vadge 829. I will not use today.
I'll grow some fucking nut hair when you grow some fucking pussy hair.
tls37010. Day 1. I will not use today.
Not sure what you're really trying to accomplish with this post man.
We need another website for caver pussies like you TLS. It's getting out of hand. Maybe a minor league for attempting to quit. A place for stoppers who just can't hack being quit and making a daily promise. How hard is it to quit one day at a time and avoid sticking nicotine in your fucking face? It's ridiculous. It's not just you TLS. ITS ANYONE WHO CAVES LIKE THIS. THERE SHOULD BE CONSEQUENCES FOR THIS WEAK ASS BEHAVIOR.
I'll believe you're quit when I see it. Good luck, you'll need it mr do over.
when you grow some fucking pussy hair.
LOLOLOL - great words sonny. Don't go tell your "buddies" how much you told me off as they may offer you another celebratory cig. What is it now... THREE times you have gone through the suck in your short time here? My message isn't cryptic ....
By douchebagkid I mean YOU behave like an irresponsible, non committed, excuse making little slave-child. And until you decide to own your quit, that is how you will stay.
'lick me' -----look here for pussy hair TripleLoveSuck
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I appreciate the support guys.
I've come back to this thread, because I needed somewhere other than June Group to occupy my thoughts. Especially, since this is in regards to recent caves within the group.
You guys are a bunch of pussies. I don't care what happens in your life, I don't care how long you chewed for. I don't give a shit if your mom, daughter, and father all fall over dead on the same day. I don't give a shit if Fido gets run over by a fucking car. I don't give a shit your home gets foreclosed on or your car gets impounded. No matter what happens, nicotine isn't going to make it better.
You're a fucking idiot if you think nicotine is going to solve your damn problem. At this point in your quit, it's gonna fucking compound your problem. You're going to start to feel dizzy, your head is going to spin, and you won't be able to see or think straight. Then the guilt will set in. You're going to realize that you let your brothers here at KTC down. You let your wife/significant other down. You let your children down. You let everyone who you've surrounded yourself with down. The can really is more important than your dearest fucking loved ones, huh? Just remember that you let your loved ones down. Remember the look in child's eyes when they see you with the can in. Remember that your wife does think less of you as a man, now. Your wife wants a man with a back bone, a man who can stand up to life's challenges and face them down. She wants a man she can count on to support her, not the other way around.
No, I don't want you back in my fucking quit group. No, the fuck I don't. I don't give a shit. You gave up. You quit. Every other mother fucker on this site has gone through this shit, some of us 10x worse than you. You had no reason to cave, except for the fact that you are a baby backed bitch. You are a selfish mother fucker. You chose the nic bitch over every one who loves and surrounds you. You know the dangers, and risks associated with tobacco, yet you still took it. You said your word wasn't worth a damn. You said you had no will power. You said that quitting is not important to you. You specifically described just how selfish you are, without even using a single fucking word!
I don't care if you just took one dip, and it made you feel dizzy and light headed. No shit, that's what a foreign substance will do when your body is not dependent on it. I don't give a shit if you threw the rest down the toilet, or in the trash. That's not a sign of a recovering addict; that's the sign of an addict attempting to hide. I don't give a shit about any of your lame ass excuses. I don't give a flying hoot-shit and I hope none of my brothers do.
That's what I'm talking about right there. A heartfelt jab at the jaws of addiction. A winner and a man who inspires. Poetry at its best. Amen, TLS, you rock the quit world and I follow behind you and support you. (now, does that help you understand who you are? JUST Quit bro, I know you are taking shit but I believe in you and many others want too. Let's get it, you got the quit and the reasons, just make it so, make the decision.).
Mogul
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Weak ass. Juvenile. Betrayer.
Why don't you go start a quit group with davidumb. One where you can post daily, but still get to smoke the occasional cigarette if your hooch doesn't come in or if you get sooooo drunk. It'll probably be ok if you post pics of dudes dipping there too.
Douchebagkid. Grow some fucking nut hair.
Vadge 829. I will not use today.
I'll grow some fucking nut hair when you grow some fucking pussy hair.
tls37010. Day 1. I will not use today.
Not sure what you're really trying to accomplish with this post man.
We need another website for caver pussies like you TLS. It's getting out of hand. Maybe a minor league for attempting to quit. A place for stoppers who just can't hack being quit and making a daily promise. How hard is it to quit one day at a time and avoid sticking nicotine in your fucking face? It's ridiculous. It's not just you TLS. ITS ANYONE WHO CAVES LIKE THIS. THERE SHOULD BE CONSEQUENCES FOR THIS WEAK ASS BEHAVIOR.
I'll believe you're quit when I see it. Good luck, you'll need it mr do over.
when you grow some fucking pussy hair.
LOLOLOL - great words sonny. Don't go tell your "buddies" how much you told me off as they may offer you another celebratory cig. What is it now... THREE times you have gone through the suck in your short time here? My message isn't cryptic ....
By douchebagkid I mean YOU behave like an irresponsible, non committed, excuse making little slave-child. And until you decide to own your quit, that is how you will stay.
'lick me' -----look here for pussy hair TripleLoveSuck
Hey TLpuSsy .
How about this...
You shut the fuck up and just quit.
Quit talking ying yang and just keep nic out your fucking pie hole. If you can't do that, get the fuck out.
You're just another young punk to come rolling through here talking a big game but end up playing Jack's and fucking up on twosies.
You might want to think about giving up alcohol for a bit as well, no?
Love is given, respect is earned.
You haven't earned SHIT, other than a well deserved pussy label. Just pipe down for a bit and do more listening than talking. You struggle, have some questions, want some opinions, want to rage, etc...then you come here and do that. Beyond that...just shut the fuck up.
Some final advice....don't worry about another person on this site other than yourself. Don't worry about what Tom, Dick, or Harry are doing. Worry about you.
Build some quit equity. Show us you're serious about quitting, rack up the +1's and every thing else will take care of itself.
If you can't do that, take your bouncy ball, handful of jacks and hit the bricks, pal.
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Weak ass. Juvenile. Betrayer.
Why don't you go start a quit group with davidumb. One where you can post daily, but still get to smoke the occasional cigarette if your hooch doesn't come in or if you get sooooo drunk. It'll probably be ok if you post pics of dudes dipping there too.
Douchebagkid. Grow some fucking nut hair.
Vadge 829. I will not use today.
I'll grow some fucking nut hair when you grow some fucking pussy hair.
tls37010. Day 1. I will not use today.
Not sure what you're really trying to accomplish with this post man.
I can confirm vadge has ample pussy hair on his vadge
a fucking cigarette ? the next time you want to suck on something short and skinny go to April 2012
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Weak ass. Juvenile. Betrayer.
Why don't you go start a quit group with davidumb. One where you can post daily, but still get to smoke the occasional cigarette if your hooch doesn't come in or if you get sooooo drunk. It'll probably be ok if you post pics of dudes dipping there too.
Douchebagkid. Grow some fucking nut hair.
Vadge 829. I will not use today.
I'll grow some fucking nut hair when you grow some fucking pussy hair.
tls37010. Day 1. I will not use today.
Not sure what you're really trying to accomplish with this post man.
I love this response questioning the intent of a post from the same punk kid who posts a pic of chew inviting people to cave..
Only to ultimately cave himself multiple times, but I guess its no big deal that you caved a few weeks ago and kept posting like you hadn't since you were to drunk or stupid to remember..
Get your shit together bro..
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Get your shit together bro..
Working on it.
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Get your shit together bro..
Working on it.
Tls - I'm glad you came back. I don't admire your cave, but I do admire you coming back and facing your demons. You are accountable to the brotherhood - our successes are all linked together. Caves by ktc members are always a result of not buying into the brotherhood and not being a man of integrity.
Quitting isn't for the weak. Being a slave - thst is for the weak! You have my support, but it comes with a price. The price is thst you commit to contact me before any nicotine hits your body. We can talk through the situation and make a rational decision, but I need your word in order to support you. Let me know if you accept the challenge.
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Get your shit together bro..
Working on it.
Tls - I'm glad you came back. I don't admire your cave, but I do admire you coming back and facing your demons. You are accountable to the brotherhood - our successes are all linked together. Caves by ktc members are always a result of not buying into the brotherhood and not being a man of integrity.
Quitting isn't for the weak. Being a slave - thst is for the weak! You have my support, but it comes with a price. The price is thst you commit to contact me before any nicotine hits your body. We can talk through the situation and make a rational decision, but I need your word in order to support you. Let me know if you accept the challenge.
Going forward, I will call every fucking KTC number at 3 in the damn morning if I have to. I will absolutely make sure you are the first however. Maybe I'll even give you an address and you can drive down and billy club the stupid out of me.
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Get your shit together bro..
Working on it.
Tls - I'm glad you came back. I don't admire your cave, but I do admire you coming back and facing your demons. You are accountable to the brotherhood - our successes are all linked together. Caves by ktc members are always a result of not buying into the brotherhood and not being a man of integrity.
Quitting isn't for the weak. Being a slave - thst is for the weak! You have my support, but it comes with a price. The price is thst you commit to contact me before any nicotine hits your body. We can talk through the situation and make a rational decision, but I need your word in order to support you. Let me know if you accept the challenge.
Going forward, I will call every fucking KTC number at 3 in the damn morning if I have to. I will absolutely make sure you are the first however. Maybe I'll even give you an address and you can drive down and billy club the stupid out of me.
Just stay quit bro. Don't put the shit in your mouth. Its not something to play with. Its not funny, and its not a game. This is your quit, no matter the amount of numbers you have, it all boils down to that moment. Dip or no dip, its your decision. Just don't let this be a waste of anyones time.
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Get your shit together bro..
Working on it.
Tls - I'm glad you came back. I don't admire your cave, but I do admire you coming back and facing your demons. You are accountable to the brotherhood - our successes are all linked together. Caves by ktc members are always a result of not buying into the brotherhood and not being a man of integrity.
Quitting isn't for the weak. Being a slave - thst is for the weak! You have my support, but it comes with a price. The price is thst you commit to contact me before any nicotine hits your body. We can talk through the situation and make a rational decision, but I need your word in order to support you. Let me know if you accept the challenge.
Going forward, I will call every fucking KTC number at 3 in the damn morning if I have to. I will absolutely make sure you are the first however. Maybe I'll even give you an address and you can drive down and billy club the stupid out of me.
Just stay quit bro. Don't put the shit in your mouth. Its not something to play with. Its not funny, and its not a game. This is your quit, no matter the amount of numbers you have, it all boils down to that moment. Dip or no dip, its your decision. Just don't let this be a waste of anyones time.
You are young and still trying to figure yourself out. If you are up at 3 in the morning, then you are putting yourself in a risky position for your quit.
Develop your quit plan. I suggest that you include a plan for alcohol intake as well. That has not helped your quit thus far.
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I have been following your quit and your thread. We have spoken in chat a few times. I know you are a young college Missouri boy and feel like I know what you are like. I would like to give you some advice because I was where you are long ago. The main difference is that you can still quit while you are young, unlike me.
I'm sure you have heard that fewer than 3% of young quitters make it. The reason for that I think is that quitting takes a level of maturity that only comes with father time. I don't mean that as a slam. Hell I envy your youth...but youth is wasted on the young. I, too, ran the bars when I was your age and got black out drunk. Smart...no. Fun...hell yes (I think). Conducive to quitting an addiction...absolutely not.
My advice to you is to realize your immaturity on some levels and not put yourself in a position to cave until you are far enough along in your quit to handle it. At the same time, realize that you are way more mature than most of us, including me, when we were your age because you are here trying like hell to quit.
I think you are for real and sincere about your quit but do stupid shit that most men your age do. If you want to succeed with your quit, you have to control the variables. Learn your lesson from your cave and go on. 3% means 3 out of every 100 make it. There's no reason you can't be one of the three.
Keep your word and I will stand with you.
QLF EDD NAFAR!
Doc-I'm quit right now
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what do you want to do when you grow up? Do you have goals? have you seen someone die of cancer? do you have a special someone or are you still looking? i think i read you're from missouri and you're in college..hows that going?
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I have been following your quit and your thread. We have spoken in chat a few times. I know you are a young college Missouri boy and feel like I know what you are like. I would like to give you some advice because I was where you are long ago. The main difference is that you can still quit while you are young, unlike me.
I'm sure you have heard that fewer than 3% of young quitters make it. The reason for that I think is that quitting takes a level of maturity that only comes with father time. I don't mean that as a slam. Hell I envy your youth...but youth is wasted on the young. I, too, ran the bars when I was your age and got black out drunk. Smart...no. Fun...hell yes (I think). Conducive to quitting an addiction...absolutely not.
My advice to you is to realize your immaturity on some levels and not put yourself in a position to cave until you are far enough along in your quit to handle it. At the same time, realize that you are way more mature than most of us, including me, when we were your age because you are here trying like hell to quit.
I think you are for real and sincere about your quit but do stupid shit that most men your age do. If you want to succeed with your quit, you have to control the variables. Learn your lesson from your cave and go on. 3% means 3 out of every 100 make it. There's no reason you can't be one of the three.
Keep your word and I will stand with you.
QLF EDD NAFAR!
Doc-I'm quit right now
This is the greatest fucking thing I've ever read. I agree with everything in here, every damn drop of it. I wish I had the balls back then, too. I knew that dipping was cockblocking me, that the sluts would see me with that fatty in and say "you'd be so much cuter without all that spit" and I'd tell them fuck off you whore. I should have told the nic bitch that.
Anyway, TLS... we all go through struggles in life. If you don't have any, you're not living. Your cave comes at the same time as my own personal struggles, struggles that are different than yours but are preventing me from being the support that you need right now. I wish I could, because I know I had help along the way, lots of help. I just can't right now. Your cave affected me more than I imagined it would- it made me realize how close I am to losing nearly two years of hard-fought quit fight. I hope that when I get out of this fog I'm in, I see you with all +1's.
Kubiak 634
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I have been following your quit and your thread. We have spoken in chat a few times. I know you are a young college Missouri boy and feel like I know what you are like. I would like to give you some advice because I was where you are long ago. The main difference is that you can still quit while you are young, unlike me.
I'm sure you have heard that fewer than 3% of young quitters make it. The reason for that I think is that quitting takes a level of maturity that only comes with father time. I don't mean that as a slam. Hell I envy your youth...but youth is wasted on the young. I, too, ran the bars when I was your age and got black out drunk. Smart...no. Fun...hell yes (I think). Conducive to quitting an addiction...absolutely not.
My advice to you is to realize your immaturity on some levels and not put yourself in a position to cave until you are far enough along in your quit to handle it. At the same time, realize that you are way more mature than most of us, including me, when we were your age because you are here trying like hell to quit.
I think you are for real and sincere about your quit but do stupid shit that most men your age do. If you want to succeed with your quit, you have to control the variables. Learn your lesson from your cave and go on. 3% means 3 out of every 100 make it. There's no reason you can't be one of the three.
Keep your word and I will stand with you.
QLF EDD NAFAR!
Doc-I'm quit right now
This is the greatest fucking thing I've ever read. I agree with everything in here, every damn drop of it. I wish I had the balls back then, too. I knew that dipping was cockblocking me, that the sluts would see me with that fatty in and say "you'd be so much cuter without all that spit" and I'd tell them fuck off you whore. I should have told the nic bitch that.
Anyway, TLS... we all go through struggles in life. If you don't have any, you're not living. Your cave comes at the same time as my own personal struggles, struggles that are different than yours but are preventing me from being the support that you need right now. I wish I could, because I know I had help along the way, lots of help. I just can't right now. Your cave affected me more than I imagined it would- it made me realize how close I am to losing nearly two years of hard-fought quit fight. I hope that when I get out of this fog I'm in, I see you with all +1's.
Kubiak 634
Why the radio silence, bro? I see you walking the walk posting roll, in chat and on the site all the time. Why don't you unleash some of the talk now. I realize you might be a little disappointed with yourself but let it go. We all make mistakes.
I just think that if you get in here 100% and post in your intro, my intro or anyone's intro, you will strengthen your quit as well as your quit bros.
Give me an update. How is the quit going now?
Doc-I am quit right now.
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I have been following your quit and your thread. We have spoken in chat a few times. I know you are a young college Missouri boy and feel like I know what you are like. I would like to give you some advice because I was where you are long ago. The main difference is that you can still quit while you are young, unlike me.
I'm sure you have heard that fewer than 3% of young quitters make it. The reason for that I think is that quitting takes a level of maturity that only comes with father time. I don't mean that as a slam. Hell I envy your youth...but youth is wasted on the young. I, too, ran the bars when I was your age and got black out drunk. Smart...no. Fun...hell yes (I think). Conducive to quitting an addiction...absolutely not.
My advice to you is to realize your immaturity on some levels and not put yourself in a position to cave until you are far enough along in your quit to handle it. At the same time, realize that you are way more mature than most of us, including me, when we were your age because you are here trying like hell to quit.
I think you are for real and sincere about your quit but do stupid shit that most men your age do. If you want to succeed with your quit, you have to control the variables. Learn your lesson from your cave and go on. 3% means 3 out of every 100 make it. There's no reason you can't be one of the three.
Keep your word and I will stand with you.
QLF EDD NAFAR!
Doc-I'm quit right now
This is the greatest fucking thing I've ever read. I agree with everything in here, every damn drop of it. I wish I had the balls back then, too. I knew that dipping was cockblocking me, that the sluts would see me with that fatty in and say "you'd be so much cuter without all that spit" and I'd tell them fuck off you whore. I should have told the nic bitch that.
Anyway, TLS... we all go through struggles in life. If you don't have any, you're not living. Your cave comes at the same time as my own personal struggles, struggles that are different than yours but are preventing me from being the support that you need right now. I wish I could, because I know I had help along the way, lots of help. I just can't right now. Your cave affected me more than I imagined it would- it made me realize how close I am to losing nearly two years of hard-fought quit fight. I hope that when I get out of this fog I'm in, I see you with all +1's.
Kubiak 634
Why the radio silence, bro? I see you walking the walk posting roll, in chat and on the site all the time. Why don't you unleash some of the talk now. I realize you might be a little disappointed with yourself but let it go. We all make mistakes.
I just think that if you get in here 100% and post in your intro, my intro or anyone's intro, you will strengthen your quit as well as your quit bros.
Give me an update. How is the quit going now?
Doc-I am quit right now.
Hmmm I wanted you on the radar from the moment you made that bs post with pics and tempting people to cave. I don't see being easy on you. You were also the one barking the loudest because you had retreads in your group....Well guess what you are a retread now....Should you be shown the same behaviors you displayed? All things to think about young man. Maybe a hint of restraint before popping off that mouth of yours. Especially to a vet around here.
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I appreciate the support guys.
I've come back to this thread, because I needed somewhere other than June Group to occupy my thoughts. Especially, since this is in regards to recent caves within the group.
You guys are a bunch of pussies. I don't care what happens in your life, I don't care how long you chewed for. I don't give a shit if your mom, daughter, and father all fall over dead on the same day. I don't give a shit if Fido gets run over by a fucking car. I don't give a shit your home gets foreclosed on or your car gets impounded. No matter what happens, nicotine isn't going to make it better.
You're a fucking idiot if you think nicotine is going to solve your damn problem. At this point in your quit, it's gonna fucking compound your problem. You're going to start to feel dizzy, your head is going to spin, and you won't be able to see or think straight. Then the guilt will set in. You're going to realize that you let your brothers here at KTC down. You let your wife/significant other down. You let your children down. You let everyone who you've surrounded yourself with down. The can really is more important than your dearest fucking loved ones, huh? Just remember that you let your loved ones down. Remember the look in child's eyes when they see you with the can in. Remember that your wife does think less of you as a man, now. Your wife wants a man with a back bone, a man who can stand up to life's challenges and face them down. She wants a man she can count on to support her, not the other way around.
No, I don't want you back in my fucking quit group. No, the fuck I don't. I don't give a shit. You gave up. You quit. Every other mother fucker on this site has gone through this shit, some of us 10x worse than you. You had no reason to cave, except for the fact that you are a baby backed bitch. You are a selfish mother fucker. You chose the nic bitch over every one who loves and surrounds you. You know the dangers, and risks associated with tobacco, yet you still took it. You said your word wasn't worth a damn. You said you had no will power. You said that quitting is not important to you. You specifically described just how selfish you are, without even using a single fucking word!
I don't care if you just took one dip, and it made you feel dizzy and light headed. No shit, that's what a foreign substance will do when your body is not dependent on it. I don't give a shit if you threw the rest down the toilet, or in the trash. That's not a sign of a recovering addict; that's the sign of an addict attempting to hide. I don't give a shit about any of your lame ass excuses. I don't give a flying hoot-shit and I hope none of my brothers do.
TLS, do you recogonize this. These are your words, verbatim. Some people jumped on this thinking it was badass attitude and right up the quit ally. Not me, because in this post you threw every caver under the bus and wrote them off that they were undeserving. Should we write you off? Should we accept you back? Should we even care? Obviously you didn't care at one point and now here you are. Shoe is on the other foot and the kettle is in deed black.
Doc nailed it. Some maturity (and in my opinion, a strong dose of humility) will serve you well.
Like I once said on this thread, some of our best quitters have caved. Are you one of them? One of the best? Or are you just another hot-headed, ill-tempered 20-something in the 97% that fail. You choose.
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I appreciate the support guys.
I've come back to this thread, because I needed somewhere other than June Group to occupy my thoughts. Especially, since this is in regards to recent caves within the group.
You guys are a bunch of pussies. I don't care what happens in your life, I don't care how long you chewed for. I don't give a shit if your mom, daughter, and father all fall over dead on the same day. I don't give a shit if Fido gets run over by a fucking car. I don't give a shit your home gets foreclosed on or your car gets impounded. No matter what happens, nicotine isn't going to make it better.
You're a fucking idiot if you think nicotine is going to solve your damn problem. At this point in your quit, it's gonna fucking compound your problem. You're going to start to feel dizzy, your head is going to spin, and you won't be able to see or think straight. Then the guilt will set in. You're going to realize that you let your brothers here at KTC down. You let your wife/significant other down. You let your children down. You let everyone who you've surrounded yourself with down. The can really is more important than your dearest fucking loved ones, huh? Just remember that you let your loved ones down. Remember the look in child's eyes when they see you with the can in. Remember that your wife does think less of you as a man, now. Your wife wants a man with a back bone, a man who can stand up to life's challenges and face them down. She wants a man she can count on to support her, not the other way around.
No, I don't want you back in my fucking quit group. No, the fuck I don't. I don't give a shit. You gave up. You quit. Every other mother fucker on this site has gone through this shit, some of us 10x worse than you. You had no reason to cave, except for the fact that you are a baby backed bitch. You are a selfish mother fucker. You chose the nic bitch over every one who loves and surrounds you. You know the dangers, and risks associated with tobacco, yet you still took it. You said your word wasn't worth a damn. You said you had no will power. You said that quitting is not important to you. You specifically described just how selfish you are, without even using a single fucking word!
I don't care if you just took one dip, and it made you feel dizzy and light headed. No shit, that's what a foreign substance will do when your body is not dependent on it. I don't give a shit if you threw the rest down the toilet, or in the trash. That's not a sign of a recovering addict; that's the sign of an addict attempting to hide. I don't give a shit about any of your lame ass excuses. I don't give a flying hoot-shit and I hope none of my brothers do.
This is fucking passion right here! Here's some tits for you brother 'boob'
I LOVE ....IT !! Hell and back (What ever excuse) + nicotine = fucked up . I am definitely going to use baby back bitch phrase.... LOVE IT.
Preach it brother!!!
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TLS I don't have your number but if I did I would be calling your ass. I have been checking in on you ever since you caved and left our June group. It appears as though you did not post roll yesterday or today although the system says you were online this morning. Is it coincidence that you disappear after a Saturday night? Did you let beer and bad decision making ruin your quit again? I hope not but to be honest I'd be shocked if this isn't the case.
In the July group there are many people posting support for you even today and you are MIA. I like the TLS who talks like a bad ass I like the TLS who walks the walk better.
What say you.
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anything you need to report?
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anything you need to report?
TLS I don't have your number but if I did I would be calling your ass. I have been checking in on you ever since you caved and left our June group. It appears as though you did not post roll yesterday or today although the system says you were online this morning. Is it coincidence that you disappear after a Saturday night? Did you let beer and bad decision making ruin your quit again? I hope not but to be honest I'd be shocked if this isn't the case.
In the July group there are many people posting support for you even today and you are MIA. I like the TLS who talks like a bad ass I like the TLS who walks the walk better.
What say you.
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Where the fuck are you? You didn't post roll yet you were online today?
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Hey TLS....you don't have the luxury or the equity to not post roll and to ignore folks...if you're too big of a pussy then just stay away..if you can sack up and be a man then stick around...right now you are a boy. Not a man. I believe you said it yourself..."i don't care if your dad, brother, sister, mom or dog died" it takes 2 seconds to post roll. If you are not a man of your word then no $75k a year engineering job will be able to hide the fact that you are a boy and not a man. Grow up man
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Hey TLS....you don't have the luxury or the equity to not post roll and to ignore folks...if you're too big of a pussy then just stay away..if you can sack up and be a man then stick around...right now you are a boy. Not a man. I believe you said it yourself..."i don't care if your dad, brother, sister, mom or dog died" it takes 2 seconds to post roll. If you are not a man of your word then no $75k a year engineering job will be able to hide the fact that you are a boy and not a man. Grow up man
Grow up and get with the program. You talked a lot of smack. Not backing it up. BS. Either quit or GTFO.
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Hey TLS....you don't have the luxury or the equity to not post roll and to ignore folks...if you're too big of a pussy then just stay away..if you can sack up and be a man then stick around...right now you are a boy. Not a man. I believe you said it yourself..."i don't care if your dad, brother, sister, mom or dog died" it takes 2 seconds to post roll. If you are not a man of your word then no $75k a year engineering job will be able to hide the fact that you are a boy and not a man. Grow up man
Grow up and get with the program. You talked a lot of smack. Not backing it up. BS. Either quit or GTFO.
'shortbus' this bus is for you! Get the fuck outta here with your weak ass shit! I've stayed out of this intro because I cannot believe how much support is thrown your way way when you repeatedly prove your a bitch! Peace out! It's easier to finger fuck a can! Men honor there word!
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Hey TLS....you don't have the luxury or the equity to not post roll and to ignore folks...if you're too big of a pussy then just stay away..if you can sack up and be a man then stick around...right now you are a boy. Not a man. I believe you said it yourself..."i don't care if your dad, brother, sister, mom or dog died" it takes 2 seconds to post roll. If you are not a man of your word then no $75k a year engineering job will be able to hide the fact that you are a boy and not a man. Grow up man
Grow up and get with the program. You talked a lot of smack. Not backing it up. BS. Either quit or GTFO.
'shortbus' this bus is for you! Get the fuck outta here with your weak ass shit! I've stayed out of this intro because I cannot believe how much support is thrown your way way when you repeatedly prove your a bitch! Peace out! It's easier to finger fuck a can! Men honor there word!
It is hard to believe how so much effort can be placed on one person with nothing asked in return except for honoring their word. I sure hope I am wrong.
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seriously? now i know you caved again just because of the radio silence...are you going to grow up now or do you want to wait until you actually have to quit because your jaw's falling off? I can pretty much guess exactly what happened...your college has a huge party weekend prior to dead week and/or finals and you got butt ass wasted, probably smoked a pack of cigarettes and maybe even chewed a can...either way you caved...you can be a bitch and not own up to it and go away or you can grow some balls and get it right.
I sent this exact message pm to TLS a minute ago...all you college boys and girls take notice...if you can't handle your booze and can't handle your decision making when you do drink in regards to your quit...then go away until your balls drop. There are females on this site that have bigger balls then this guy.
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seriously? now i know you caved again just because of the radio silence...are you going to grow up now or do you want to wait until you actually have to quit because your jaw's falling off? I can pretty much guess exactly what happened...your college has a huge party weekend prior to dead week and/or finals and you got butt ass wasted, probably smoked a pack of cigarettes and maybe even chewed a can...either way you caved...you can be a bitch and not own up to it and go away or you can grow some balls and get it right.
I sent this exact message pm to TLS a minute ago...all you college boys and girls take notice...if you can't handle your booze and can't handle your decision making when you do drink in regards to your quit...then go away until your balls drop. There are females on this site that have bigger balls then this guy.
His activity log says he's signing in so he is getting the message. He's just too big of a pussy to face the music. Even if he decides not to quit now an apology for wasting everyone's time would the act of a man.
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seriously? now i know you caved again just because of the radio silence...are you going to grow up now or do you want to wait until you actually have to quit because your jaw's falling off? I can pretty much guess exactly what happened...your college has a huge party weekend prior to dead week and/or finals and you got butt ass wasted, probably smoked a pack of cigarettes and maybe even chewed a can...either way you caved...you can be a bitch and not own up to it and go away or you can grow some balls and get it right.
I sent this exact message pm to TLS a minute ago...all you college boys and girls take notice...if you can't handle your booze and can't handle your decision making when you do drink in regards to your quit...then go away until your balls drop. There are females on this site that have bigger balls then this guy.
His activity log says he's signing in so he is getting the message. He's just too big of a pussy to face the music. Even if he decides not to quit now an apology for wasting everyone's time would the act of a man.
I've been watching this unfold for a few days. TLS I never approached you when you were "with the program". I never did for the simple reason that your "glorifying speeches" and "pomp and circumstance aurora" weren't fooling me. There is a difference between being motivational and passionate, and being a coward who talks a big game and runs other quitters down. You're one of those guys who needs to be mad at someone or something to get through his day.
You had a nice break from dipping, congrats. I'm on day 66....what day are you? I'm going to hit the hall with the June Saloon....what month.....or year will you become a HOF? You pissed away a great opportunity and made a lot of people doubt you. Me included. I sincerely hope you conquer whatever demons are plaguing you. Your life and future relationships depend on it.
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seriously? now i know you caved again just because of the radio silence...are you going to grow up now or do you want to wait until you actually have to quit because your jaw's falling off? I can pretty much guess exactly what happened...your college has a huge party weekend prior to dead week and/or finals and you got butt ass wasted, probably smoked a pack of cigarettes and maybe even chewed a can...either way you caved...you can be a bitch and not own up to it and go away or you can grow some balls and get it right.
I sent this exact message pm to TLS a minute ago...all you college boys and girls take notice...if you can't handle your booze and can't handle your decision making when you do drink in regards to your quit...then go away until your balls drop. There are females on this site that have bigger balls then this guy.
His activity log says he's signing in so he is getting the message. He's just too big of a pussy to face the music. Even if he decides not to quit now an apology for wasting everyone's time would the act of a man.
I've been watching this unfold for a few days. TLS I never approached you when you were "with the program". I never did for the simple reason that your "glorifying speeches" and "pomp and circumstance aurora" weren't fooling me. There is a difference between being motivational and passionate, and being a coward who talks a big game and runs other quitters down. You're one of those guys who needs to be mad at someone or something to get through his day.
You had a nice break from dipping, congrats. I'm on day 66....what day are you? I'm going to hit the hall with the June Saloon....what month.....or year will you become a HOF? You pissed away a great opportunity and made a lot of people doubt you. Me included. I sincerely hope you conquer whatever demons are plaguing you. Your life and future relationships depend on it.
Too bad if this is true. You had a bunch of good guys lined up next to you to help. If you come back a little humility might help. It's been said so many times before that you have to really want this to stay quit.
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seriously? now i know you caved again just because of the radio silence...are you going to grow up now or do you want to wait until you actually have to quit because your jaw's falling off? I can pretty much guess exactly what happened...your college has a huge party weekend prior to dead week and/or finals and you got butt ass wasted, probably smoked a pack of cigarettes and maybe even chewed a can...either way you caved...you can be a bitch and not own up to it and go away or you can grow some balls and get it right.
I sent this exact message pm to TLS a minute ago...all you college boys and girls take notice...if you can't handle your booze and can't handle your decision making when you do drink in regards to your quit...then go away until your balls drop. There are females on this site that have bigger balls then this guy.
His activity log says he's signing in so he is getting the message. He's just too big of a pussy to face the music. Even if he decides not to quit now an apology for wasting everyone's time would the act of a man.
I've been watching this unfold for a few days. TLS I never approached you when you were "with the program". I never did for the simple reason that your "glorifying speeches" and "pomp and circumstance aurora" weren't fooling me. There is a difference between being motivational and passionate, and being a coward who talks a big game and runs other quitters down. You're one of those guys who needs to be mad at someone or something to get through his day.
You had a nice break from dipping, congrats. I'm on day 66....what day are you? I'm going to hit the hall with the June Saloon....what month.....or year will you become a HOF? You pissed away a great opportunity and made a lot of people doubt you. Me included. I sincerely hope you conquer whatever demons are plaguing you. Your life and future relationships depend on it.
Too bad if this is true. You had a bunch of good guys lined up next to you to help. If you come back a little humility might help. It's been said so many times before that you have to really want this to stay quit.
Another young punk who talked shit and crapped out once they found out how hard it was. We've seen this waaay too many times before.
That bus is too long for him. He needs to short bus his pussy ass out of here.
I wondered if you were a man or mouse..."nibble on my dick like a rat does cheese".
Pussy.
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I'm still quit. I didn't fucking cave. I'm about fed up with ya fucks though. That's for damn sure. I was online yesterday reading Words of Wisdom. Yeah I didn't fucking post roll.
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I'm still quit. I didn't fucking cave. I'm about fed up with ya fucks though. That's for damn sure. I was online yesterday reading Words of Wisdom. Yeah I didn't fucking post roll.
Why not?
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I will tell you the same thing I tell every other butterfly that comes across the screen. You joined KTC, KTC did NOT join you. Either work the program, be a part of the community, and help other quitters. Or get your b.itch a$$ out, go dip your life away, and pound pavement. No 50/50 here. In or out. But dont join us, and then complain about us.
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I'm still quit. I didn't fucking cave. I'm about fed up with ya fucks though. That's for damn sure. I was online yesterday reading Words of Wisdom. Yeah I didn't fucking post roll.
Whaaaa. Go play with dolls, bitch.
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I'm still quit. I didn't fucking cave. I'm about fed up with ya fucks though. That's for damn sure. I was online yesterday reading Words of Wisdom. Yeah I didn't fucking post roll.
I agree. The dudes here tend to ride your ass pretty hard. Especially when you are a hypocrite, a caver, a liar, and a pussy.
People like that get absolutely no respect here, so it is tough on them.
If I were you, I would find somewhere that accepts your chosen behaviors, and where the mean people who value integrity won't be such a downer.
Get fucked up, and enjoy some smokes while you are "blacked out" you fucking bitch.
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I'm still quit. I didn't fucking cave. I'm about fed up with ya fucks though. That's for damn sure. I was online yesterday reading Words of Wisdom. Yeah I didn't fucking post roll.
Why not?
Good question. Maybe you can answer it before you jump on the bus with your dolls.
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Tls - thanks for the text and reassurance that your quit is intact. I just wanna share a few things...
Right now it probably seems like you are getting beaten up on here a lot. To those of us that take our quits seriously, posting roll is very sacred. It is the first part of my day, every day. It is my reminder of where I was and my promise to myself and to YOU that today I wil keep my word. The peeps that are typing to you care. They just wanna see you succeed.
The men replying to you likely see a lot of themselves in you. I can only speak for mysrlf but I promised myself every day for 25 years that I would quit the next day. I threw out thousands of half full cans. I cannot describe the regrets I have because of my addiction, and would do anything to turn back the hands of time and have a group of leaders help bitch slap me into quitting at your age.
The 3% number that was referenced earlier is 0% if posting roll isn't a priority. So, here is the offer... Ill drive down and take you to dinner (without alcohol) and you can punch me in the gut a few times if it would help. Let's get the train back on the tracks. Post roll today, on Wednesday, and reset your commitment to yourself and all of us. This quit is too fragile right now to take chances... Nicotine whispers sweet nothings in your ear when you are fragile, and the best defense is your commitment on roll call. My offer stands, Travis. Let me know.
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I'm still quit. I didn't fucking cave. I'm about fed up with ya fucks though. That's for damn sure. I was online yesterday reading Words of Wisdom. Yeah I didn't fucking post roll.
Why not?
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I'm still quit. I didn't fucking cave. I'm about fed up with ya fucks though. That's for damn sure. I was online yesterday reading Words of Wisdom. Yeah I didn't fucking post roll.
Why not?
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Roll is posted today.
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I'm still quit. I didn't fucking cave. I'm about fed up with ya fucks though. That's for damn sure. I was online yesterday reading Words of Wisdom. Yeah I didn't fucking post roll.
Why not?
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Roll is posted today.
because he's a boy. Boys don't make promises...boys take quitting something like nicotine as a game, like go fish or sorry. Problem is, when you have a boy playing games, those boys don't understand that the ramifications of losing this "game" is death, and a pretty horrible one at that. By not posting roll TLS, you are saying to us that you don't really give a shit about what this place is about. How were you on here reading the words of wisdom yesterday and not post roll? That just doesn't make sense. Considering it takes about 5 seconds to post roll and about an hour or longer to read all the words of wisdom. Funny thing is when i came back as a retread you were a complete ass to me. Then when you caved i was one of the first ones to reach out to you and offer my support. I told you to post roll every day and honor your word...then you don't post roll, the very foundation of this support site, and then you get all pissy when people call you out? Are you just that big of an arrogant prick? I don't think that is what your problem is...see...Diesel is and arrogant prick...but he's a bad ass quitter. He's weathered the storm and came out on top...thats what men do. You are a boy. And a fucking whiny ass boy at that. When your nuts drop and you want to be a man, then be an arrogant prick if thats who you want to be. But right now, there hasn't been one thing said to you that isn't true so far...hypocrite is the one that comes to mind.
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I'm still quit. I didn't fucking cave. I'm about fed up with ya fucks though. That's for damn sure. I was online yesterday reading Words of Wisdom. Yeah I didn't fucking post roll.
Why not?
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Roll is posted today.
because he's a boy. Boys don't make promises...boys take quitting something like nicotine as a game, like go fish or sorry. Problem is, when you have a boy playing games, those boys don't understand that the ramifications of losing this "game" is death, and a pretty horrible one at that. By not posting roll TLS, you are saying to us that you don't really give a shit about what this place is about. How were you on here reading the words of wisdom yesterday and not post roll? That just doesn't make sense. Considering it takes about 5 seconds to post roll and about an hour or longer to read all the words of wisdom. Funny thing is when i came back as a retread you were a complete ass to me. Then when you caved i was one of the first ones to reach out to you and offer my support. I told you to post roll every day and honor your word...then you don't post roll, the very foundation of this support site, and then you get all pissy when people call you out? Are you just that big of an arrogant prick? I don't think that is what your problem is...see...Diesel is and arrogant prick...but he's a bad ass quitter. He's weathered the storm and came out on top...thats what men do. You are a boy. And a fucking whiny ass boy at that. When your nuts drop and you want to be a man, then be an arrogant prick if thats who you want to be. But right now, there hasn't been one thing said to you that isn't true so far...hypocrite is the one that comes to mind.
Did anywhere in the words of wisdom talk about posting roll? I bet it did...
Saw you posted up day 10 today. Keep that going and quit F-ing around.
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I'm still quit. I didn't fucking cave. I'm about fed up with ya fucks though. That's for damn sure. I was online yesterday reading Words of Wisdom. Yeah I didn't fucking post roll.
Why not?
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Roll is posted today.
because he's a boy. Boys don't make promises...boys take quitting something like nicotine as a game, like go fish or sorry. Problem is, when you have a boy playing games, those boys don't understand that the ramifications of losing this "game" is death, and a pretty horrible one at that. By not posting roll TLS, you are saying to us that you don't really give a shit about what this place is about. How were you on here reading the words of wisdom yesterday and not post roll? That just doesn't make sense. Considering it takes about 5 seconds to post roll and about an hour or longer to read all the words of wisdom. Funny thing is when i came back as a retread you were a complete ass to me. Then when you caved i was one of the first ones to reach out to you and offer my support. I told you to post roll every day and honor your word...then you don't post roll, the very foundation of this support site, and then you get all pissy when people call you out? Are you just that big of an arrogant prick? I don't think that is what your problem is...see...Diesel is and arrogant prick...but he's a bad ass quitter. He's weathered the storm and came out on top...thats what men do. You are a boy. And a fucking whiny ass boy at that. When your nuts drop and you want to be a man, then be an arrogant prick if thats who you want to be. But right now, there hasn't been one thing said to you that isn't true so far...hypocrite is the one that comes to mind.
Did anywhere in the words of wisdom talk about posting roll? I bet it did...
Saw you posted up day 10 today. Keep that going and quit F-ing around.
Why would the words of wisdom, written by some monster quitters, mention posting roll? Its not really that important is it? 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head' 'bang head'
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I'm still quit. I didn't fucking cave. I'm about fed up with ya fucks though. That's for damn sure. I was online yesterday reading Words of Wisdom. Yeah I didn't fucking post roll.
Well you have now been relegated to the cave/mia list of yet another quit group. I see you are still lurking though. I guess "we fucks" (your words not mine) speak too much truth for you. See you in ten years when your balls finally drop. Revisit this intro when you crawl back and be humble next time you might make it. Enjoy the cancer turds buddy.
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I'm still quit. I didn't fucking cave. I'm about fed up with ya fucks though. That's for damn sure. I was online yesterday reading Words of Wisdom. Yeah I didn't fucking post roll.
Well you have now been relegated to the cave/mia list of yet another quit group. I see you are still lurking though. I guess "we fucks" (your words not mine) speak too much truth for you. See you in ten years when your balls finally drop. Revisit this intro when you crawl back and be humble next time you might make it. Enjoy the cancer turds buddy.
I want to join an accountability site but get upset when quitters on the site try to help and hold you accountable.
Oh yeah, I get that fucked up addiction logic. 'finger point'
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I'm still quit. I didn't fucking cave. I'm about fed up with ya fucks though. That's for damn sure. I was online yesterday reading Words of Wisdom. Yeah I didn't fucking post roll.
Well you have now been relegated to the cave/mia list of yet another quit group. I see you are still lurking though. I guess "we fucks" (your words not mine) speak too much truth for you. See you in ten years when your balls finally drop. Revisit this intro when you crawl back and be humble next time you might make it. Enjoy the cancer turds buddy.
I want to join an accountability site but get upset when quitters on the site try to help and hold you accountable.
Oh yeah, I get that fucked up addiction logic. 'finger point'
Very disappointing!
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tls, I see very similar traits in us, you are a 20+ younger version of me in attitude. Please allow me to dispense unasked for advice.
You came to this site on your own, and by the nature of creating an account asked for help. The rules here are very simple, post roll, and don't use nicotine. Anything else is a bonus. You wrote a strongly worded post on caving, which was well received and appreciated, but by doing so you put yourself out there as a leader, so when your cave came, it hit us double hard. You came back, but have seemed to fail again, mainly due to not being humble enough to take your medicine and own up to the hard core quitters who are trying to save your life.
When I was in my early 20's and in college, I knew everything. It's funny now that I am 45 I seem to know less and less each day, but I gain more because I listen to people who do know what they are talking about. Case and point is the KTC. I created an account, posted day 2 of roll, all with a reported nic patch on. I caught the well deserved ration of shit, humbly removed myself from roll all while thinking in my head what a bunch of dicks. Because on March 6th 2014 I knew everything about quitting even though I wasn't an addict. And now it's May 14th, I am a nicotine addict who has chosen and promised thousands of unmet people that I will not use nicotine today, and I'd rather go blind than to break that promise to them.
I can't ask you to buy in to the KTC as hard as I did, but what I can ask is to consider swallowing your pride and explaining yourself to the many folks who have used their precious time to support you. I hope you are quit today.
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Caved again, huh?
Time for Quitsmokeless.org for you.
You have been given ample support and far too many breaks. Been coddled too much too in my opinion. Spare me your updated version to the three questions, go tell Lite. They'll listen.
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I appreciate the support guys.
I've come back to this thread, because I needed somewhere other than June Group to occupy my thoughts. Especially, since this is in regards to recent caves within the group.
You guys are a bunch of pussies. I don't care what happens in your life, I don't care how long you chewed for. I don't give a shit if your mom, daughter, and father all fall over dead on the same day. I don't give a shit if Fido gets run over by a fucking car. I don't give a shit your home gets foreclosed on or your car gets impounded. No matter what happens, nicotine isn't going to make it better.
You're a fucking idiot if you think nicotine is going to solve your damn problem. At this point in your quit, it's gonna fucking compound your problem. You're going to start to feel dizzy, your head is going to spin, and you won't be able to see or think straight. Then the guilt will set in. You're going to realize that you let your brothers here at KTC down. You let your wife/significant other down. You let your children down. You let everyone who you've surrounded yourself with down. The can really is more important than your dearest fucking loved ones, huh? Just remember that you let your loved ones down. Remember the look in child's eyes when they see you with the can in. Remember that your wife does think less of you as a man, now. Your wife wants a man with a back bone, a man who can stand up to life's challenges and face them down. She wants a man she can count on to support her, not the other way around.
No, I don't want you back in my fucking quit group. No, the fuck I don't. I don't give a shit. You gave up. You quit. Every other mother fucker on this site has gone through this shit, some of us 10x worse than you. You had no reason to cave, except for the fact that you are a baby backed bitch. You are a selfish mother fucker. You chose the nic bitch over every one who loves and surrounds you. You know the dangers, and risks associated with tobacco, yet you still took it. You said your word wasn't worth a damn. You said you had no will power. You said that quitting is not important to you. You specifically described just how selfish you are, without even using a single fucking word!
I don't care if you just took one dip, and it made you feel dizzy and light headed. No shit, that's what a foreign substance will do when your body is not dependent on it. I don't give a shit if you threw the rest down the toilet, or in the trash. That's not a sign of a recovering addict; that's the sign of an addict attempting to hide. I don't give a shit about any of your lame ass excuses. I don't give a flying hoot-shit and I hope none of my brothers do.
All this stuff I am quoting is what YOU wrote....... what happened? Where is the person that wrote that post?
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1)What happened?
I came into KTC rather quiet at first. I just sat and absorbed the knowledge – raged out in chat a couple of times in a fit of rage. Soon after that though, I found some solace in making posts that were rather pointed towards cavers and others. I began to take a sort of peace of mind in ranting on here on KTC whether that be in my quit thread, my intro thread, or on chat. It seemed healthy, but in reality it wasn’t. I don’t think that was a behavior that was conducive to my quit.
That said, what happened was essentially that I caved on a night of drinking. After a lot of introspection – I knew that I had a problem. I’m not going to lie – as soon as I came on here and posted day 1 I lost a lot of motivation. I wasn’t into my quit, I honestly felt like I was trying to climb an insurmountable wall and that no matter what I did I couldn’t climb it. I may have physically posted a second day one, but I sure as hell didn’t mentally post a second day one. For me, mentally I was still on day 48 or whatever the fuck. Part of me felt that my slip up was no big deal; part of me felt that I was just doomed to failure. I was honestly demoralized and didn’t frankly care anymore. I quit protecting my quit, eventually I quit coming on KTC as often. Eventually I convinced myself I was better off without KTC. Eventually I was back to using nicotine full time with no end in sight.
2) Why did it happen?
Like I said – humility is a big thing. I quit reading after a while. I quit trying to understand my addiction – AS IF THE FIGHT WAS OVER! I quit guarding my quit! I often went out drinking heavily during even the earliest days of my quit. I quit making KTC a priority and my quit a priority – I hated that I had to guard my quit so closely. A part of me secretly loathed that, why couldn’t I just be like everyone else and go about a normal day. Why couldn’t I enjoy a meal and a beer without cringing to death? I secretly hated that. Part of me began to loathe my quit I think – even more so after I came on here and physically posted a day one. Yet like I said above I don’t think I really mentally posted a day one, because I don’t think I even made it two weeks! I was just trying to continue what I had going! I should have done a lot lot more introspection before I came back around. Frankly I don’t think I was serious and to be honest I think I was wasting my time and KTC’s.
3) What are you going to do differently this time?
Well, first off I plan on being present with a lot more humility in mind – I don’t need to be telling respected members of the community to fuck off, nor do I need to be the one casting judgment – as I have no room to be casting judgment. I’m going to be avoiding alcohol and other major triggers for a long time, and when I do decided to put myself around those certain triggers I plan on preparing myself adequately for it an only weaning myself into the situation. All that said though, I’m going to hold myself accountable above all else, because I can do everything else right, but still be wrong if I’m not holding myself accountable. I need to be on here on KTC first thing every morning. I need to read every day in length about addiction, and reflect on that. Killing the can needs to be a full time job and taken seriously as such.
I know a lot of you guys don’t want to see me around. I know a lot of you have no faith in me. I understand that. I know you guys are expecting me to cave. You want me to post in a separate section for “serial cavers” or whatever. I get that, honestly I do. I’m okay with that – perhaps that’s what’s best. If that’s what’s required of me, then so be it. If that’s what’s desired of me, so be it. I understand that many of you have absolutely 0 trust and faith in me, but I hope I can regain some of that with time and dedication.
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1)What happened?
I came into KTC rather quiet at first. I just sat and absorbed the knowledge – raged out in chat a couple of times in a fit of rage. Soon after that though, I found some solace in making posts that were rather pointed towards cavers and others. I began to take a sort of peace of mind in ranting on here on KTC whether that be in my quit thread, my intro thread, or on chat. It seemed healthy, but in reality it wasn’t. I don’t think that was a behavior that was conducive to my quit.
That said, what happened was essentially that I caved on a night of drinking. After a lot of introspection – I knew that I had a problem. I’m not going to lie – as soon as I came on here and posted day 1 I lost a lot of motivation. I wasn’t into my quit, I honestly felt like I was trying to climb an insurmountable wall and that no matter what I did I couldn’t climb it. I may have physically posted a second day one, but I sure as hell didn’t mentally post a second day one. For me, mentally I was still on day 48 or whatever the fuck. Part of me felt that my slip up was no big deal; part of me felt that I was just doomed to failure. I was honestly demoralized and didn’t frankly care anymore. I quit protecting my quit, eventually I quit coming on KTC as often. Eventually I convinced myself I was better off without KTC. Eventually I was back to using nicotine full time with no end in sight.
2) Why did it happen?
Like I said – humility is a big thing. I quit reading after a while. I quit trying to understand my addiction – AS IF THE FIGHT WAS OVER! I quit guarding my quit! I often went out drinking heavily during even the earliest days of my quit. I quit making KTC a priority and my quit a priority – I hated that I had to guard my quit so closely. A part of me secretly loathed that, why couldn’t I just be like everyone else and go about a normal day. Why couldn’t I enjoy a meal and a beer without cringing to death? I secretly hated that. Part of me began to loathe my quit I think – even more so after I came on here and physically posted a day one. Yet like I said above I don’t think I really mentally posted a day one, because I don’t think I even made it two weeks! I was just trying to continue what I had going! I should have done a lot lot more introspection before I came back around. Frankly I don’t think I was serious and to be honest I think I was wasting my time and KTC’s.
3) What are you going to do differently this time?
Well, first off I plan on being present with a lot more humility in mind – I don’t need to be telling respected members of the community to fuck off, nor do I need to be the one casting judgment – as I have no room to be casting judgment. I’m going to be avoiding alcohol and other major triggers for a long time, and when I do decided to put myself around those certain triggers I plan on preparing myself adequately for it an only weaning myself into the situation. All that said though, I’m going to hold myself accountable above all else, because I can do everything else right, but still be wrong if I’m not holding myself accountable. I need to be on here on KTC first thing every morning. I need to read every day in length about addiction, and reflect on that. Killing the can needs to be a full time job and taken seriously as such.
I know a lot of you guys don’t want to see me around. I know a lot of you have no faith in me. I understand that. I know you guys are expecting me to cave. You want me to post in a separate section for “serial cavers” or whatever. I get that, honestly I do. I’m okay with that – perhaps that’s what’s best. If that’s what’s required of me, then so be it. If that’s what’s desired of me, so be it. I understand that many of you have absolutely 0 trust and faith in me, but I hope I can regain some of that with time and dedication.
Please get out. This place isn't for you. I hope you stay quit, but more than that, I hope you aren't here for it. You're an arrogant hypocrite and there is no place on this site for that attitude. I don't need to hear your excuses any more than the previous 9 guys that came through here and told us the same thing. I know I know, you're a special butterfly, the rules don't apply to you like everybody else, you have more willpower, you're different, blah blah blah. Please go to Lite and get your participation trophy. I'm quitting my ass off for myself and the quitters that want to be here. I don't need anything other than the satisfaction that I'm saving my life one day at a time. Seems like you want somebody to play with your Prince Albert every time you post your name. I won't be playing with that Prince Albert you're sporting. Take it elsewhere.
J2thaZ
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I am rarely a guy who takes the hardline. Forgiveness is a beautiful thing. Grace is even more beautiful.
You... Are a waste of time.
You don't get it.
Bye.
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As I said before...
Go play with dolls. Stop wasting our time.
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1)What happened?
I came into KTC rather quiet at first. I just sat and absorbed the knowledge – raged out in chat a couple of times in a fit of rage. Soon after that though, I found some solace in making posts that were rather pointed towards cavers and others. I began to take a sort of peace of mind in ranting on here on KTC whether that be in my quit thread, my intro thread, or on chat. It seemed healthy, but in reality it wasn’t. I don’t think that was a behavior that was conducive to my quit.
That said, what happened was essentially that I caved on a night of drinking. After a lot of introspection – I knew that I had a problem. I’m not going to lie – as soon as I came on here and posted day 1 I lost a lot of motivation. I wasn’t into my quit, I honestly felt like I was trying to climb an insurmountable wall and that no matter what I did I couldn’t climb it. I may have physically posted a second day one, but I sure as hell didn’t mentally post a second day one. For me, mentally I was still on day 48 or whatever the fuck. Part of me felt that my slip up was no big deal; part of me felt that I was just doomed to failure. I was honestly demoralized and didn’t frankly care anymore. I quit protecting my quit, eventually I quit coming on KTC as often. Eventually I convinced myself I was better off without KTC. Eventually I was back to using nicotine full time with no end in sight.
2) Why did it happen?
Like I said – humility is a big thing. I quit reading after a while. I quit trying to understand my addiction – AS IF THE FIGHT WAS OVER! I quit guarding my quit! I often went out drinking heavily during even the earliest days of my quit. I quit making KTC a priority and my quit a priority – I hated that I had to guard my quit so closely. A part of me secretly loathed that, why couldn’t I just be like everyone else and go about a normal day. Why couldn’t I enjoy a meal and a beer without cringing to death? I secretly hated that. Part of me began to loathe my quit I think – even more so after I came on here and physically posted a day one. Yet like I said above I don’t think I really mentally posted a day one, because I don’t think I even made it two weeks! I was just trying to continue what I had going! I should have done a lot lot more introspection before I came back around. Frankly I don’t think I was serious and to be honest I think I was wasting my time and KTC’s.
3) What are you going to do differently this time?
Well, first off I plan on being present with a lot more humility in mind – I don’t need to be telling respected members of the community to fuck off, nor do I need to be the one casting judgment – as I have no room to be casting judgment. I’m going to be avoiding alcohol and other major triggers for a long time, and when I do decided to put myself around those certain triggers I plan on preparing myself adequately for it an only weaning myself into the situation. All that said though, I’m going to hold myself accountable above all else, because I can do everything else right, but still be wrong if I’m not holding myself accountable. I need to be on here on KTC first thing every morning. I need to read every day in length about addiction, and reflect on that. Killing the can needs to be a full time job and taken seriously as such.
I know a lot of you guys don’t want to see me around. I know a lot of you have no faith in me. I understand that. I know you guys are expecting me to cave. You want me to post in a separate section for “serial cavers” or whatever. I get that, honestly I do. I’m okay with that – perhaps that’s what’s best. If that’s what’s required of me, then so be it. If that’s what’s desired of me, so be it. I understand that many of you have absolutely 0 trust and faith in me, but I hope I can regain some of that with time and dedication.
Please get out. This place isn't for you. I hope you stay quit, but more than that, I hope you aren't here for it. You're an arrogant hypocrite and there is no place on this site for that attitude. I don't need to hear your excuses any more than the previous 9 guys that came through here and told us the same thing. I know I know, you're a special butterfly, the rules don't apply to you like everybody else, you have more willpower, you're different, blah blah blah. Please go to Lite and get your participation trophy. I'm quitting my ass off for myself and the quitters that want to be here. I don't need anything other than the satisfaction that I'm saving my life one day at a time. Seems like you want somebody to play with your Prince Albert every time you post your name. I won't be playing with that Prince Albert you're sporting. Take it elsewhere.
J2thaZ
A lot of words here with nothing much said. I'll give you credit! It had to take awhile to type this up and try to sound like you understood and had a plan to quit this time. So whats the plan? I mean really? If you want to play the role and fake it till you make it then there are other places to post up. Here, we expect ONE thing! Honor your word daily! If you stay here I suggest you be quiet and do some soul searching. Ive learned that caving is more about your own deficiencies as a man then it is about outside influences. I.e.... Drinking, partying, pressure from friends. Only good news for you today is that you can strengthen that backbone of yours. It takes ball to quit!
Jake Frawley - 195
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Here is how I interpreted the answers to the 3 questions...... Woe is me, I messed up but I am a great and mighty person. I won't do it again unless I put myself into the same situations that I caved in, which I know will happen but I want to pretend I am strong enough to quit. I did mess up and use nicotine again, but it doesn't count because I don't feel like I caved, but I will say I did to appease this forum.....
Seriously, in your own statement, you say that you feel like you are still on day 48. Have you not read any of the information on this site and what nicotine does to your brain? It doesn't matter if you dipped, smoked, or inhaled a cigar through your butthole, nicotine is NICOTINE. You are not sorry for caving and everything you wrote is a bunch of fluff. KTC does not have to be a full time job like you stated. You get up, post roll, and check back throughout the day. However, staying true to your quit IS a full time job. You just don't get it at all.
And to fuckin send me a message and say that I should text you because you can provide me insight and accountability because you caved and know what it is like? How about you read the intro's and stories of your "fellow quitters" before you go extending a bullshit hand of help and make yourself look like an assclown.
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A lot of words here with nothing much said. I'll give you credit! It had to take awhile to type this up and try to sound like you understood and had a plan to quit this time. So whats the plan? I mean really? If you want to play the role and fake it till you make it then there are other places to post up. Here, we expect ONE thing! Honor your word daily! If you stay here I suggest you be quiet and do some soul searching. Ive learned that caving is more about your own deficiencies as a man then it is about outside influences. I.e.... Drinking, partying, pressure from friends. Only good news for you today is that you can strengthen that backbone of yours. It takes ball to quit!
Jake Frawley - 195
I agree that at the end of the day the blame falls on me and me alone. I'm not trying to avoid that whatsoever. What I am trying to say is that I was often going out partying and drinking hardcore regularly when my quit was so damn fresh. I'm trying to say I did not approach my quit smart enough. Ultimately the blame rests on me, but there was no need to be putting my quit in such a delicate position.
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Here is how I interpreted the answers to the 3 questions...... Woe is me, I messed up but I am a great and mighty person. I won't do it again unless I put myself into the same situations that I caved in, which I know will happen but I want to pretend I am strong enough to quit. I did mess up and use nicotine again, but it doesn't count because I don't feel like I caved, but I will say I did to appease this forum.....
Seriously, in your own statement, you say that you feel like you are still on day 48. Have you not read any of the information on this site and what nicotine does to your brain? It doesn't matter if you dipped, smoked, or inhaled a cigar through your butthole, nicotine is NICOTINE. You are not sorry for caving and everything you wrote is a bunch of fluff. KTC does not have to be a full time job like you stated. You get up, post roll, and check back throughout the day. However, staying true to your quit IS a full time job. You just don't get it at all.
And to fuckin send me a message and say that I should text you because you can provide me insight and accountability because you caved and know what it is like? How about you read the intro's and stories of your "fellow quitters" before you go extending a bullshit hand of help and make yourself look like an assclown.
Looking back over my post, I can certainly see how you interpreted it that way. That said, it certainly wasn't intended to be read like that. I was trying to relay a number of different messages at the same time and I think a lot of it just got caught up in itself. So I'll lay them out below.
-All blame and responsibility ultimately falls on me.
-I didn't protect my quit like a baby. Although this is NOT the reason I failed, it certainly contributed to it greatly.
-The reason I failed myself, my family, and my quit brothers goes no further than myself.
-I don't feel bad for myself, I feel like a complete dipshit.
-I can go partying all I want, but that's not the actions I need to take if I'm quitting actively.
-I need a lot more humility. Humility will get me a long long way.
Ultimately though, I think you need to reread that post. I did not say I still feel like I'm on day 48. I said that when I came back to KTC after caving in May, I felt like I was still on day 48 and that my quit was still strong. I did not recognize it as the threat it was, and did not take the situation entirely serious.
As far as whether or not you give me your phone number, and what not I could honestly give a shit. I'm looking for some brothers to help hold me accountable and to do the same for them. If you're not into that then so be it. I figured me and you had something in common as well as we're both military and your posts remind me very much of my first few days on this site. There's no need to get all huffy puffy toughy in the face of a legitimate hand of friendship.
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I honestly expected a different reaction from you regarding my post. Perhaps there is a little more humility in the "new" TLS. If you are legitimate about this, then quit. It may take a lot of time to regain some trust from people on here but that is all on you and how willing you are to put up with the hazing to be apart of the group again.
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topic/1004305/605/ (http://forum.killthecan.org/topic/1004305/605/)
Good substitutes TLS, not bad ones.
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you took a big ol shit on this website and those that reached out to help you...you sent some of your bullshit directly at me and i even reached out to you after your first cave. you're an arrogant little prick and i want nothing to do with you or your quit...i hope you get lucky enough to find lightening in a bottle and quit, but arrogant guys like you rarely do...arrogance is bread out of low self esteem.
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This guy has proved time and time again that hes not worth it, Hes an arrogant fuck head and hes a bad investment...
And now he is going to poison September with his foolishness.. what an asshole.. How many fucking times is this idiot going to get drunk and cave? This is the third time its happened now (unless there is times he hasn't told us about) His word is shit, he sucks at posting roll.. and on top of it, hes an asshole.. Hey dickweed.. why don't you post more pictures of dip..
What a colossal idiot..
The ONLY thing that can be a positive out of this morons existence on KTC is that he can serve as a warning to others.. Don't be as stupid as TLS is
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This guy has proved time and time again that hes not worth it, Hes an arrogant fuck head and hes a bad investment...
And now he is going to poison September with his foolishness.. what an asshole.. How many fucking times is this idiot going to get drunk and cave? This is the third time its happened now (unless there is times he hasn't told us about) His word is shit, he sucks at posting roll.. and on top of it, hes an asshole.. Hey dickweed.. why don't you post more pictures of dip..
What a colossal idiot..
The ONLY thing that can be a positive out of this morons existence on KTC is that he can serve as a warning to others.. Don't be as stupid as TLS is
Like you said, we can always use him as a bad example.
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This guy has proved time and time again that hes not worth it, Hes an arrogant fuck head and hes a bad investment...
And now he is going to poison September with his foolishness.. what an asshole.. How many fucking times is this idiot going to get drunk and cave? This is the third time its happened now (unless there is times he hasn't told us about) His word is shit, he sucks at posting roll.. and on top of it, hes an asshole.. Hey dickweed.. why don't you post more pictures of dip..
What a colossal idiot..
The ONLY thing that can be a positive out of this morons existence on KTC is that he can serve as a warning to others.. Don't be as stupid as TLS is
Like you said, we can always use him as a bad example.
Every time i read the intro title i'm repulsed--- I personally have never "guess"ed I'd do anything around KTC here. You gotta jump in with both damned feet... f-ing DO it, not "guess" you'll do it. This is bad stuff, the addiction is HARD core. You gotta commit and DRIVE through a lot of shit with DETERMINATION in order to make it. You gotta PUSH, and you gotta STRIVE to do everything that has been proven here to work-- you have to GIVE IN to your quit and GIVE ALL YOU HAVE to make it work. "Guessing" ain't ever gonna cut it. I hope this guy stops "guessing" he "oughta stop" someday and Quits! In the meantime there are plenty of people showing up here daily, ready to jump in and give it all. With just a little guidance and support when they need it they will be successful and make it happen, only to follow that by helping others. Much better to spend your energy helping these ones through-- they WILL make it happen, they ARE doing, it, rather than "guessing" they should.
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TLS you are to June what James Gordon is to May, What Big Nasty was to July, hell if JamesGordon and Big Nasty had a love child he would likely be less of an asshole and more reliable than you.
Hit the bricks boy we've heard it all before! 'FU'
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Everyone should read this entire intro, and perhaps wcbignasty too. This is the face and behavior of failure! These people did not get it from day 1, and unless a miracle occurs they might never get it. This site works only for those willing to buy in 100% to the methods developed here, and to actively work their quit and participate. Take heed new quitters , this is what not to do.
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I feel like Bill Murray in Groundhog day... did this cave actually happen, or am I just re-living this nightmare again.
"Okay, campers, rise and shine, and don't forget your booties 'cause it's cooooold out there today."........
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Here I sit at day 6.
48 days would be like a day at a resort.
Dont get me started. Im working on calm right now.
I have no place for the weak.
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TLS you are to June what James Gordon is to May, What Big Nasty was to July, hell if JamesGordon and Big Nasty had a love child he would likely be less of an asshole and more reliable than you.
Hit the bricks boy we've heard it all before! 'FU'
Holy shit, I leave town for a few days a looky what I missed. TLS, I hope you get the help you need but I like the idea of bumping this just to show The Sultans what not to do.
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TLS you are to June what James Gordon is to May, What Big Nasty was to July, hell if JamesGordon and Big Nasty had a love child he would likely be less of an asshole and more reliable than you.
Hit the bricks boy we've heard it all before! 'FU'
Holy shit, I leave town for a few days a looky what I missed. TLS, I hope you get the help you need but I like the idea of bumping this just to show The Sultans what not to do.
Day 8 is in the books for tls. Yep, he was a slow learner. It took many of us 20+ years... So while I don't approve of his multi stoppages, I do support his quit. And today is day 8 of his quit.
F nicotine and the fact that it made many of us liars.
Cheers to you, tls, for choosing freedom.
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so posting in April 12 was too much to ask -
texting daily seems to have been too much for you as well
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Multiple caves, multiple issues ... GFYS tls. Newbies, this is what NOT to do!!
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He's baaaaack!!!! after deciding it was finally time to quit, he made the decision to quit again.
You know the routine asswipe. Answer the three questions before you fully commit.
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What the hell happened?
I caved. I caved twice. I lost any claim to honor or integrity I had in regards to nicotine. Initially I came to this site spur of the moment – I had quit on a whim. But because of KTC with that whim I made it a full 47 days! Although that is a mere shadow of some of your guys’ quits, and a tenth of what I could be at if I had never caved, it was a number I never thought I would reach prior to my first quit.
Nevertheless I did cave and I came back almost immediately looking for redemption. I grabbed my balls and tried to continue again, yet I failed once again.
Why did it happen?
I think the root of the real issue was I didnÂ’t NEED to quit. I didnÂ’t want that more than anything. As I said above, my quit was on a whim! Everything I did in regards to my quit was on a whim! I remember how I purposefully put myself in shitty situations surrounding myself with the wrong substances and the wrong people. I wasnÂ’t taking it seriously! If I was I wouldnÂ’t have put myself in all of these different situations! I was essentially just coasting as far as I could!
Following my 47 day attempt, I lacked whatever self-awareness that I needed to see I wasnÂ’t in this for the long haul. I came back almost immediately with my tail between my legs posting an honest day one. What I failed to do in my time though was any sort of introspection. I failed to realize that the real reason I caved, was because I was half assing it in every way possible. Posting EDD was not the most important thing to me. I was scared to text/call people. I surrounded myself with other using addicts. People who smoked over a pack a day or used just as much chew. My friends were a bunch of drunkards. I allowed them to control me and my quit, because I was not dedicated to my quit 100%. I flat out refused the resources afforded to me.
What's different this time?
WhatÂ’s different this time is that I know I want and need to quit. I have sat back and contemplated my failure for over a year. I know where I screwed up and I know how IÂ’m going to stay away from that. My father was diagnosed with leukemia last week at 62, and since then IÂ’ve had a lot of time to put things into perspective. In a way his diagnosis has changed the context of things. I know that if I donÂ’t quit now, I very well may never. There will never be a time in my life that is more ready for quitting. I know that I have every resource available to me whether that be other quitters phone numbers, my family, or whatever. Beyond that I am the only nicotine user in my day to day life right now, so I personally canÂ’t ask for a better time to do it. I just need to man up and do it.
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What the hell happened?
I caved. I caved twice. I lost any claim to honor or integrity I had in regards to nicotine. Initially I came to this site spur of the moment – I had quit on a whim. But because of KTC with that whim I made it a full 47 days! Although that is a mere shadow of some of your guys’ quits, and a tenth of what I could be at if I had never caved, it was a number I never thought I would reach prior to my first quit.
Nevertheless I did cave and I came back almost immediately looking for redemption. I grabbed my balls and tried to continue again, yet I failed once again.
Why did it happen?
I think the root of the real issue was I didnÂ’t NEED to quit. I didnÂ’t want that more than anything. As I said above, my quit was on a whim! Everything I did in regards to my quit was on a whim! I remember how I purposefully put myself in shitty situations surrounding myself with the wrong substances and the wrong people. I wasnÂ’t taking it seriously! If I was I wouldnÂ’t have put myself in all of these different situations! I was essentially just coasting as far as I could!
Following my 47 day attempt, I lacked whatever self-awareness that I needed to see I wasnÂ’t in this for the long haul. I came back almost immediately with my tail between my legs posting an honest day one. What I failed to do in my time though was any sort of introspection. I failed to realize that the real reason I caved, was because I was half assing it in every way possible. Posting EDD was not the most important thing to me. I was scared to text/call people. I surrounded myself with other using addicts. People who smoked over a pack a day or used just as much chew. My friends were a bunch of drunkards. I allowed them to control me and my quit, because I was not dedicated to my quit 100%. I flat out refused the resources afforded to me.
What's different this time?
WhatÂ’s different this time is that I know I want and need to quit. I have sat back and contemplated my failure for over a year. I know where I screwed up and I know how IÂ’m going to stay away from that. My father was diagnosed with leukemia last week at 62, and since then IÂ’ve had a lot of time to put things into perspective. In a way his diagnosis has changed the context of things. I know that if I donÂ’t quit now, I very well may never. There will never be a time in my life that is more ready for quitting. I know that I have every resource available to me whether that be other quitters phone numbers, my family, or whatever. Beyond that I am the only nicotine user in my day to day life right now, so I personally canÂ’t ask for a better time to do it. I just need to man up and do it.
Alright tls, I've read every word of your intro. You've fucked up. Well, so has everyone else on this site at some point. You fucked up again? Oh yeah, I've done that too. Yes, you've been a bit of an arrogant prick here, no doubt. Do you know how to redeem yourself from that stigma? Shut the fuck up with the diatribes and listen to these assholes that have been where you are many times. Listen to every syllable. You fail because you conveniently set yourself up for failure. I have been in your shoes but I was too much of a SLAVE and a weak pussy to pull the trigger and realize that there is only one way to do this. Absolutely NAFAR, EDD, ODAAT, OHAAT, one fucking minute at a time if that's what it takes.
I wish I had your opportunity. Every asshole here wishes we had your opportunity to shut this fucking mindfuck of an addiction into submission - for me, 20 years ago - for others, 30, 40 years. We see ourselves in you, hence the anger - we don't like that memory of the arrogant, fucking retarded 23 year old version of ourselves.
I'll give you a chance. But I am not here for fucking failure. I am here to curbstomp this cunt.
You can PM me and I'll give my #. I don't have history with you and I understand why motherfuckers are sick of your shit. But I also know that I've been in your shitty flip-flops or new balance sneakers or whatever the fuck you are walking down the street in. If I had the chance, I would rochambeau the fuck out of myself at your age. If you want to give me your address, you could be my surrogate from the past...
You and only you can make this happen. Don't fuck it up.
I'll see you in roll.
EDD
ODAAT
NAFAR
I will very gladly exchange #s with any of you mofos. I could use the help. Strength in numbers.
Strong like oak.
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What the hell happened?
I caved. I caved twice. I lost any claim to honor or integrity I had in regards to nicotine. Initially I came to this site spur of the moment – I had quit on a whim. But because of KTC with that whim I made it a full 47 days! Although that is a mere shadow of some of your guys’ quits, and a tenth of what I could be at if I had never caved, it was a number I never thought I would reach prior to my first quit.
Nevertheless I did cave and I came back almost immediately looking for redemption. I grabbed my balls and tried to continue again, yet I failed once again.
Why did it happen?
I think the root of the real issue was I didnÂ’t NEED to quit. I didnÂ’t want that more than anything. As I said above, my quit was on a whim! Everything I did in regards to my quit was on a whim! I remember how I purposefully put myself in shitty situations surrounding myself with the wrong substances and the wrong people. I wasnÂ’t taking it seriously! If I was I wouldnÂ’t have put myself in all of these different situations! I was essentially just coasting as far as I could!
Following my 47 day attempt, I lacked whatever self-awareness that I needed to see I wasnÂ’t in this for the long haul. I came back almost immediately with my tail between my legs posting an honest day one. What I failed to do in my time though was any sort of introspection. I failed to realize that the real reason I caved, was because I was half assing it in every way possible. Posting EDD was not the most important thing to me. I was scared to text/call people. I surrounded myself with other using addicts. People who smoked over a pack a day or used just as much chew. My friends were a bunch of drunkards. I allowed them to control me and my quit, because I was not dedicated to my quit 100%. I flat out refused the resources afforded to me.
What's different this time?
WhatÂ’s different this time is that I know I want and need to quit. I have sat back and contemplated my failure for over a year. I know where I screwed up and I know how IÂ’m going to stay away from that. My father was diagnosed with leukemia last week at 62, and since then IÂ’ve had a lot of time to put things into perspective. In a way his diagnosis has changed the context of things. I know that if I donÂ’t quit now, I very well may never. There will never be a time in my life that is more ready for quitting. I know that I have every resource available to me whether that be other quitters phone numbers, my family, or whatever. Beyond that I am the only nicotine user in my day to day life right now, so I personally canÂ’t ask for a better time to do it. I just need to man up and do it.
Alright tls, I've read every word of your intro. You've fucked up. Well, so has everyone else on this site at some point. You fucked up again? Oh yeah, I've done that too. Yes, you've been a bit of an arrogant prick here, no doubt. Do you know how to redeem yourself from that stigma? Shut the fuck up with the diatribes and listen to these assholes that have been where you are many times. Listen to every syllable. You fail because you conveniently set yourself up for failure. I have been in your shoes but I was too much of a SLAVE and a weak pussy to pull the trigger and realize that there is only one way to do this. Absolutely NAFAR, EDD, ODAAT, OHAAT, one fucking minute at a time if that's what it takes.
I wish I had your opportunity. Every asshole here wishes we had your opportunity to shut this fucking mindfuck of an addiction into submission - for me, 20 years ago - for others, 30, 40 years. We see ourselves in you, hence the anger - we don't like that memory of the arrogant, fucking retarded 23 year old version of ourselves.
I'll give you a chance. But I am not here for fucking failure. I am here to curbstomp this cunt.
You can PM me and I'll give my #. I don't have history with you and I understand why motherfuckers are sick of your shit. But I also know that I've been in your shitty flip-flops or new balance sneakers or whatever the fuck you are walking down the street in. If I had the chance, I would rochambeau the fuck out of myself at your age. If you want to give me your address, you could be my surrogate from the past...
You and only you can make this happen. Don't fuck it up.
I'll see you in roll.
EDD
ODAAT
NAFAR
I will very gladly exchange #s with any of you mofos. I could use the help. Strength in numbers.
Strong like oak.
Call me the arrogant prick, but I wouldn't necessarily classify this last post as sage advice. I'll give him the benefit of a doubt that the intentions were good, but this dude just called everyone on the site an asshole and a motherfucker. And for the record, I've never fucked up since joining KTC. I've never gone against my word. I'm a man of integrity and I intend to keep it that way.
tls, you're still a neophyte when it comes to this quitting thing. Figure it out and show us why we should give a damn about your quit.
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What the hell happened?
I caved. I caved twice. I lost any claim to honor or integrity I had in regards to nicotine. Initially I came to this site spur of the moment – I had quit on a whim. But because of KTC with that whim I made it a full 47 days! Although that is a mere shadow of some of your guys’ quits, and a tenth of what I could be at if I had never caved, it was a number I never thought I would reach prior to my first quit.
Nevertheless I did cave and I came back almost immediately looking for redemption. I grabbed my balls and tried to continue again, yet I failed once again.
Why did it happen?
I think the root of the real issue was I didnÂ’t NEED to quit. I didnÂ’t want that more than anything. As I said above, my quit was on a whim! Everything I did in regards to my quit was on a whim! I remember how I purposefully put myself in shitty situations surrounding myself with the wrong substances and the wrong people. I wasnÂ’t taking it seriously! If I was I wouldnÂ’t have put myself in all of these different situations! I was essentially just coasting as far as I could!
Following my 47 day attempt, I lacked whatever self-awareness that I needed to see I wasnÂ’t in this for the long haul. I came back almost immediately with my tail between my legs posting an honest day one. What I failed to do in my time though was any sort of introspection. I failed to realize that the real reason I caved, was because I was half assing it in every way possible. Posting EDD was not the most important thing to me. I was scared to text/call people. I surrounded myself with other using addicts. People who smoked over a pack a day or used just as much chew. My friends were a bunch of drunkards. I allowed them to control me and my quit, because I was not dedicated to my quit 100%. I flat out refused the resources afforded to me.
What's different this time?
WhatÂ’s different this time is that I know I want and need to quit. I have sat back and contemplated my failure for over a year. I know where I screwed up and I know how IÂ’m going to stay away from that. My father was diagnosed with leukemia last week at 62, and since then IÂ’ve had a lot of time to put things into perspective. In a way his diagnosis has changed the context of things. I know that if I donÂ’t quit now, I very well may never. There will never be a time in my life that is more ready for quitting. I know that I have every resource available to me whether that be other quitters phone numbers, my family, or whatever. Beyond that I am the only nicotine user in my day to day life right now, so I personally canÂ’t ask for a better time to do it. I just need to man up and do it.
Alright tls, I've read every word of your intro. You've fucked up. Well, so has everyone else on this site at some point. You fucked up again? Oh yeah, I've done that too. Yes, you've been a bit of an arrogant prick here, no doubt. Do you know how to redeem yourself from that stigma? Shut the fuck up with the diatribes and listen to these assholes that have been where you are many times. Listen to every syllable. You fail because you conveniently set yourself up for failure. I have been in your shoes but I was too much of a SLAVE and a weak pussy to pull the trigger and realize that there is only one way to do this. Absolutely NAFAR, EDD, ODAAT, OHAAT, one fucking minute at a time if that's what it takes.
I wish I had your opportunity. Every asshole here wishes we had your opportunity to shut this fucking mindfuck of an addiction into submission - for me, 20 years ago - for others, 30, 40 years. We see ourselves in you, hence the anger - we don't like that memory of the arrogant, fucking retarded 23 year old version of ourselves.
I'll give you a chance. But I am not here for fucking failure. I am here to curbstomp this cunt.
You can PM me and I'll give my #. I don't have history with you and I understand why motherfuckers are sick of your shit. But I also know that I've been in your shitty flip-flops or new balance sneakers or whatever the fuck you are walking down the street in. If I had the chance, I would rochambeau the fuck out of myself at your age. If you want to give me your address, you could be my surrogate from the past...
You and only you can make this happen. Don't fuck it up.
I'll see you in roll.
EDD
ODAAT
NAFAR
I will very gladly exchange #s with any of you mofos. I could use the help. Strength in numbers.
Strong like oak.
Call me the arrogant prick, but I wouldn't necessarily classify this last post as sage advice. I'll give him the benefit of a doubt that the intentions were good, but this dude just called everyone on the site an asshole and a motherfucker. And for the record, I've never fucked up since joining KTC. I've never gone against my word. I'm a man of integrity and I intend to keep it that way.
tls, you're still a neophyte when it comes to this quitting thing. Figure it out and show us why we should give a damn about your quit.
Man the fog is thick steakbomb! Lmao
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What the hell happened?
I caved. I caved twice. I lost any claim to honor or integrity I had in regards to nicotine. Initially I came to this site spur of the moment – I had quit on a whim. But because of KTC with that whim I made it a full 47 days! Although that is a mere shadow of some of your guys’ quits, and a tenth of what I could be at if I had never caved, it was a number I never thought I would reach prior to my first quit.
Nevertheless I did cave and I came back almost immediately looking for redemption. I grabbed my balls and tried to continue again, yet I failed once again.
Why did it happen?
I think the root of the real issue was I didnÂ’t NEED to quit. I didnÂ’t want that more than anything. As I said above, my quit was on a whim! Everything I did in regards to my quit was on a whim! I remember how I purposefully put myself in shitty situations surrounding myself with the wrong substances and the wrong people. I wasnÂ’t taking it seriously! If I was I wouldnÂ’t have put myself in all of these different situations! I was essentially just coasting as far as I could!
Following my 47 day attempt, I lacked whatever self-awareness that I needed to see I wasnÂ’t in this for the long haul. I came back almost immediately with my tail between my legs posting an honest day one. What I failed to do in my time though was any sort of introspection. I failed to realize that the real reason I caved, was because I was half assing it in every way possible. Posting EDD was not the most important thing to me. I was scared to text/call people. I surrounded myself with other using addicts. People who smoked over a pack a day or used just as much chew. My friends were a bunch of drunkards. I allowed them to control me and my quit, because I was not dedicated to my quit 100%. I flat out refused the resources afforded to me.
What's different this time?
WhatÂ’s different this time is that I know I want and need to quit. I have sat back and contemplated my failure for over a year. I know where I screwed up and I know how IÂ’m going to stay away from that. My father was diagnosed with leukemia last week at 62, and since then IÂ’ve had a lot of time to put things into perspective. In a way his diagnosis has changed the context of things. I know that if I donÂ’t quit now, I very well may never. There will never be a time in my life that is more ready for quitting. I know that I have every resource available to me whether that be other quitters phone numbers, my family, or whatever. Beyond that I am the only nicotine user in my day to day life right now, so I personally canÂ’t ask for a better time to do it. I just need to man up and do it.
Alright tls, I've read every word of your intro. You've fucked up. Well, so has everyone else on this site at some point. You fucked up again? Oh yeah, I've done that too. Yes, you've been a bit of an arrogant prick here, no doubt. Do you know how to redeem yourself from that stigma? Shut the fuck up with the diatribes and listen to these assholes that have been where you are many times. Listen to every syllable. You fail because you conveniently set yourself up for failure. I have been in your shoes but I was too much of a SLAVE and a weak pussy to pull the trigger and realize that there is only one way to do this. Absolutely NAFAR, EDD, ODAAT, OHAAT, one fucking minute at a time if that's what it takes.
I wish I had your opportunity. Every asshole here wishes we had your opportunity to shut this fucking mindfuck of an addiction into submission - for me, 20 years ago - for others, 30, 40 years. We see ourselves in you, hence the anger - we don't like that memory of the arrogant, fucking retarded 23 year old version of ourselves.
I'll give you a chance. But I am not here for fucking failure. I am here to curbstomp this cunt.
You can PM me and I'll give my #. I don't have history with you and I understand why motherfuckers are sick of your shit. But I also know that I've been in your shitty flip-flops or new balance sneakers or whatever the fuck you are walking down the street in. If I had the chance, I would rochambeau the fuck out of myself at your age. If you want to give me your address, you could be my surrogate from the past...
You and only you can make this happen. Don't fuck it up.
I'll see you in roll.
EDD
ODAAT
NAFAR
I will very gladly exchange #s with any of you mofos. I could use the help. Strength in numbers.
Strong like oak.
Call me the arrogant prick, but I wouldn't necessarily classify this last post as sage advice. I'll give him the benefit of a doubt that the intentions were good, but this dude just called everyone on the site an asshole and a motherfucker. And for the record, I've never fucked up since joining KTC. I've never gone against my word. I'm a man of integrity and I intend to keep it that way.
tls, you're still a neophyte when it comes to this quitting thing. Figure it out and show us why we should give a damn about your quit.
Man the fog is thick steakbomb! Lmao
Ahhh boy. I'm eating crow. Sorry for my crass response. I'm not making friends here, I see. I meant no disrespect. I am the asshole and the motherfucker - I (very strangely, of course, out of context, and in print) meant all of this as terms of endearment for those that are fighting this battle.
Maybe I'll make sense in a month... Please bear with me.
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What the hell happened?
I caved. I caved twice. I lost any claim to honor or integrity I had in regards to nicotine. Initially I came to this site spur of the moment – I had quit on a whim. But because of KTC with that whim I made it a full 47 days! Although that is a mere shadow of some of your guys’ quits, and a tenth of what I could be at if I had never caved, it was a number I never thought I would reach prior to my first quit.
Nevertheless I did cave and I came back almost immediately looking for redemption. I grabbed my balls and tried to continue again, yet I failed once again.
Why did it happen?
I think the root of the real issue was I didnÂ’t NEED to quit. I didnÂ’t want that more than anything. As I said above, my quit was on a whim! Everything I did in regards to my quit was on a whim! I remember how I purposefully put myself in shitty situations surrounding myself with the wrong substances and the wrong people. I wasnÂ’t taking it seriously! If I was I wouldnÂ’t have put myself in all of these different situations! I was essentially just coasting as far as I could!
Following my 47 day attempt, I lacked whatever self-awareness that I needed to see I wasnÂ’t in this for the long haul. I came back almost immediately with my tail between my legs posting an honest day one. What I failed to do in my time though was any sort of introspection. I failed to realize that the real reason I caved, was because I was half assing it in every way possible. Posting EDD was not the most important thing to me. I was scared to text/call people. I surrounded myself with other using addicts. People who smoked over a pack a day or used just as much chew. My friends were a bunch of drunkards. I allowed them to control me and my quit, because I was not dedicated to my quit 100%. I flat out refused the resources afforded to me.
What's different this time?
WhatÂ’s different this time is that I know I want and need to quit. I have sat back and contemplated my failure for over a year. I know where I screwed up and I know how IÂ’m going to stay away from that. My father was diagnosed with leukemia last week at 62, and since then IÂ’ve had a lot of time to put things into perspective. In a way his diagnosis has changed the context of things. I know that if I donÂ’t quit now, I very well may never. There will never be a time in my life that is more ready for quitting. I know that I have every resource available to me whether that be other quitters phone numbers, my family, or whatever. Beyond that I am the only nicotine user in my day to day life right now, so I personally canÂ’t ask for a better time to do it. I just need to man up and do it.
Alright tls, I've read every word of your intro. You've fucked up. Well, so has everyone else on this site at some point. You fucked up again? Oh yeah, I've done that too. Yes, you've been a bit of an arrogant prick here, no doubt. Do you know how to redeem yourself from that stigma? Shut the fuck up with the diatribes and listen to these assholes that have been where you are many times. Listen to every syllable. You fail because you conveniently set yourself up for failure. I have been in your shoes but I was too much of a SLAVE and a weak pussy to pull the trigger and realize that there is only one way to do this. Absolutely NAFAR, EDD, ODAAT, OHAAT, one fucking minute at a time if that's what it takes.
I wish I had your opportunity. Every asshole here wishes we had your opportunity to shut this fucking mindfuck of an addiction into submission - for me, 20 years ago - for others, 30, 40 years. We see ourselves in you, hence the anger - we don't like that memory of the arrogant, fucking retarded 23 year old version of ourselves.
I'll give you a chance. But I am not here for fucking failure. I am here to curbstomp this cunt.
You can PM me and I'll give my #. I don't have history with you and I understand why motherfuckers are sick of your shit. But I also know that I've been in your shitty flip-flops or new balance sneakers or whatever the fuck you are walking down the street in. If I had the chance, I would rochambeau the fuck out of myself at your age. If you want to give me your address, you could be my surrogate from the past...
You and only you can make this happen. Don't fuck it up.
I'll see you in roll.
EDD
ODAAT
NAFAR
I will very gladly exchange #s with any of you mofos. I could use the help. Strength in numbers.
Strong like oak.
Call me the arrogant prick, but I wouldn't necessarily classify this last post as sage advice. I'll give him the benefit of a doubt that the intentions were good, but this dude just called everyone on the site an asshole and a motherfucker. And for the record, I've never fucked up since joining KTC. I've never gone against my word. I'm a man of integrity and I intend to keep it that way.
tls, you're still a neophyte when it comes to this quitting thing. Figure it out and show us why we should give a damn about your quit.
Man the fog is thick steakbomb! Lmao
Ahhh boy. I'm eating crow. Sorry for my crass response. I'm not making friends here, I see. I meant no disrespect. I am the asshole and the motherfucker - I (very strangely, of course, out of context, and in print) meant all of this as terms of endearment for those that are fighting this battle.
Maybe I'll make sense in a month... Please bear with me.
Welcome back Travis.
My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family as your father begins a battle.
You know what to do here so I won't give s lot of advice other than to say that the people that have reached out are bad ass. They are winning. Follow in their footsteps one day at a time.
You can do this, but you have to want to do this for you.
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You can do this, but you have to want to do this for you.
Absolutely. I'm not doing this for him whatsoever. I'm doing this for me. His diagnosis is just what put the importance of this fight into context for me. It was a sharp and heavy reminder that this really and truly is a fight for my life. It is not something that is worth procrastinating.
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What the hell happened?
I caved. I caved twice. I lost any claim to honor or integrity I had in regards to nicotine. Initially I came to this site spur of the moment – I had quit on a whim. But because of KTC with that whim I made it a full 47 days! Although that is a mere shadow of some of your guys’ quits, and a tenth of what I could be at if I had never caved, it was a number I never thought I would reach prior to my first quit.
Nevertheless I did cave and I came back almost immediately looking for redemption. I grabbed my balls and tried to continue again, yet I failed once again.
Why did it happen?
I think the root of the real issue was I didnÂ’t NEED to quit. I didnÂ’t want that more than anything. As I said above, my quit was on a whim! Everything I did in regards to my quit was on a whim! I remember how I purposefully put myself in shitty situations surrounding myself with the wrong substances and the wrong people. I wasnÂ’t taking it seriously! If I was I wouldnÂ’t have put myself in all of these different situations! I was essentially just coasting as far as I could!
Following my 47 day attempt, I lacked whatever self-awareness that I needed to see I wasnÂ’t in this for the long haul. I came back almost immediately with my tail between my legs posting an honest day one. What I failed to do in my time though was any sort of introspection. I failed to realize that the real reason I caved, was because I was half assing it in every way possible. Posting EDD was not the most important thing to me. I was scared to text/call people. I surrounded myself with other using addicts. People who smoked over a pack a day or used just as much chew. My friends were a bunch of drunkards. I allowed them to control me and my quit, because I was not dedicated to my quit 100%. I flat out refused the resources afforded to me.
What's different this time?
WhatÂ’s different this time is that I know I want and need to quit. I have sat back and contemplated my failure for over a year. I know where I screwed up and I know how IÂ’m going to stay away from that. My father was diagnosed with leukemia last week at 62, and since then IÂ’ve had a lot of time to put things into perspective. In a way his diagnosis has changed the context of things. I know that if I donÂ’t quit now, I very well may never. There will never be a time in my life that is more ready for quitting. I know that I have every resource available to me whether that be other quitters phone numbers, my family, or whatever. Beyond that I am the only nicotine user in my day to day life right now, so I personally canÂ’t ask for a better time to do it. I just need to man up and do it.
Alright tls, I've read every word of your intro. You've fucked up. Well, so has everyone else on this site at some point. You fucked up again? Oh yeah, I've done that too. Yes, you've been a bit of an arrogant prick here, no doubt. Do you know how to redeem yourself from that stigma? Shut the fuck up with the diatribes and listen to these assholes that have been where you are many times. Listen to every syllable. You fail because you conveniently set yourself up for failure. I have been in your shoes but I was too much of a SLAVE and a weak pussy to pull the trigger and realize that there is only one way to do this. Absolutely NAFAR, EDD, ODAAT, OHAAT, one fucking minute at a time if that's what it takes.
I wish I had your opportunity. Every asshole here wishes we had your opportunity to shut this fucking mindfuck of an addiction into submission - for me, 20 years ago - for others, 30, 40 years. We see ourselves in you, hence the anger - we don't like that memory of the arrogant, fucking retarded 23 year old version of ourselves.
I'll give you a chance. But I am not here for fucking failure. I am here to curbstomp this cunt.
You can PM me and I'll give my #. I don't have history with you and I understand why motherfuckers are sick of your shit. But I also know that I've been in your shitty flip-flops or new balance sneakers or whatever the fuck you are walking down the street in. If I had the chance, I would rochambeau the fuck out of myself at your age. If you want to give me your address, you could be my surrogate from the past...
You and only you can make this happen. Don't fuck it up.
I'll see you in roll.
EDD
ODAAT
NAFAR
I will very gladly exchange #s with any of you mofos. I could use the help. Strength in numbers.
Strong like oak.
Call me the arrogant prick, but I wouldn't necessarily classify this last post as sage advice. I'll give him the benefit of a doubt that the intentions were good, but this dude just called everyone on the site an asshole and a motherfucker. And for the record, I've never fucked up since joining KTC. I've never gone against my word. I'm a man of integrity and I intend to keep it that way.
tls, you're still a neophyte when it comes to this quitting thing. Figure it out and show us why we should give a damn about your quit.
Man the fog is thick steakbomb! Lmao
Ahhh boy. I'm eating crow. Sorry for my crass response. I'm not making friends here, I see. I meant no disrespect. I am the asshole and the motherfucker - I (very strangely, of course, out of context, and in print) meant all of this as terms of endearment for those that are fighting this battle.
Maybe I'll make sense in a month... Please bear with me.
Welcome back Travis.
My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family as your father begins a battle.
You know what to do here so I won't give s lot of advice other than to say that the people that have reached out are bad ass. They are winning. Follow in their footsteps one day at a time.
You can do this, but you have to want to do this for you.
Hey Oaktree, your diatribe was perfectly sensible. Don't apoligize for that. You are quit like fuck. Keep doing what you're doing.
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What the hell happened?
I caved. I caved twice. I lost any claim to honor or integrity I had in regards to nicotine. Initially I came to this site spur of the moment – I had quit on a whim. But because of KTC with that whim I made it a full 47 days! Although that is a mere shadow of some of your guys’ quits, and a tenth of what I could be at if I had never caved, it was a number I never thought I would reach prior to my first quit.
Nevertheless I did cave and I came back almost immediately looking for redemption. I grabbed my balls and tried to continue again, yet I failed once again.
Why did it happen?
I think the root of the real issue was I didnÂ’t NEED to quit. I didnÂ’t want that more than anything. As I said above, my quit was on a whim! Everything I did in regards to my quit was on a whim! I remember how I purposefully put myself in shitty situations surrounding myself with the wrong substances and the wrong people. I wasnÂ’t taking it seriously! If I was I wouldnÂ’t have put myself in all of these different situations! I was essentially just coasting as far as I could!
Following my 47 day attempt, I lacked whatever self-awareness that I needed to see I wasnÂ’t in this for the long haul. I came back almost immediately with my tail between my legs posting an honest day one. What I failed to do in my time though was any sort of introspection. I failed to realize that the real reason I caved, was because I was half assing it in every way possible. Posting EDD was not the most important thing to me. I was scared to text/call people. I surrounded myself with other using addicts. People who smoked over a pack a day or used just as much chew. My friends were a bunch of drunkards. I allowed them to control me and my quit, because I was not dedicated to my quit 100%. I flat out refused the resources afforded to me.
What's different this time?
WhatÂ’s different this time is that I know I want and need to quit. I have sat back and contemplated my failure for over a year. I know where I screwed up and I know how IÂ’m going to stay away from that. My father was diagnosed with leukemia last week at 62, and since then IÂ’ve had a lot of time to put things into perspective. In a way his diagnosis has changed the context of things. I know that if I donÂ’t quit now, I very well may never. There will never be a time in my life that is more ready for quitting. I know that I have every resource available to me whether that be other quitters phone numbers, my family, or whatever. Beyond that I am the only nicotine user in my day to day life right now, so I personally canÂ’t ask for a better time to do it. I just need to man up and do it.
Alright tls, I've read every word of your intro. You've fucked up. Well, so has everyone else on this site at some point. You fucked up again? Oh yeah, I've done that too. Yes, you've been a bit of an arrogant prick here, no doubt. Do you know how to redeem yourself from that stigma? Shut the fuck up with the diatribes and listen to these assholes that have been where you are many times. Listen to every syllable. You fail because you conveniently set yourself up for failure. I have been in your shoes but I was too much of a SLAVE and a weak pussy to pull the trigger and realize that there is only one way to do this. Absolutely NAFAR, EDD, ODAAT, OHAAT, one fucking minute at a time if that's what it takes.
I wish I had your opportunity. Every asshole here wishes we had your opportunity to shut this fucking mindfuck of an addiction into submission - for me, 20 years ago - for others, 30, 40 years. We see ourselves in you, hence the anger - we don't like that memory of the arrogant, fucking retarded 23 year old version of ourselves.
I'll give you a chance. But I am not here for fucking failure. I am here to curbstomp this cunt.
You can PM me and I'll give my #. I don't have history with you and I understand why motherfuckers are sick of your shit. But I also know that I've been in your shitty flip-flops or new balance sneakers or whatever the fuck you are walking down the street in. If I had the chance, I would rochambeau the fuck out of myself at your age. If you want to give me your address, you could be my surrogate from the past...
You and only you can make this happen. Don't fuck it up.
I'll see you in roll.
EDD
ODAAT
NAFAR
I will very gladly exchange #s with any of you mofos. I could use the help. Strength in numbers.
Strong like oak.
Call me the arrogant prick, but I wouldn't necessarily classify this last post as sage advice. I'll give him the benefit of a doubt that the intentions were good, but this dude just called everyone on the site an asshole and a motherfucker. And for the record, I've never fucked up since joining KTC. I've never gone against my word. I'm a man of integrity and I intend to keep it that way.
tls, you're still a neophyte when it comes to this quitting thing. Figure it out and show us why we should give a damn about your quit.
Man the fog is thick steakbomb! Lmao
Ahhh boy. I'm eating crow. Sorry for my crass response. I'm not making friends here, I see. I meant no disrespect. I am the asshole and the motherfucker - I (very strangely, of course, out of context, and in print) meant all of this as terms of endearment for those that are fighting this battle.
Maybe I'll make sense in a month... Please bear with me.
Welcome back Travis.
My thoughts and prayers are with you and your family as your father begins a battle.
You know what to do here so I won't give s lot of advice other than to say that the people that have reached out are bad ass. They are winning. Follow in their footsteps one day at a time.
You can do this, but you have to want to do this for you.
Hey Oaktree, your diatribe was perfectly sensible. Don't apoligize for that. You are quit like fuck. Keep doing what you're doing.
He wasnt talking about you oak. I highly doubt SB was referring to your post dude. If anyone has an issue with what you wrote then tell them to fuck off. its simple. I love what your doing, keep it up.
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Has anyone ever had acid reflux be they quit dipping? I am on day 14 and I have never had acid reflux but it has come about the last 3 days. This is my third time attempting to quit and have neve experienced this.
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I just spent the AM rereading most of these ten pages. Looking back at myself a year ago, I was/am a buffoon. I talked like one and acted like one. Way too fucking full of myself to accomplish diddly shit.
Nonetheless, I am here now and soaking in much more and listening as well without all of the fanfare. I'm done fucking around and although I know a lot of you fucks are doubting me and frankly don't care, I am enjoying proving you wrong day by day.
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I just spent the AM rereading most of these ten pages. Looking back at myself a year ago, I was/am a buffoon. I talked like one and acted like one. Way too fucking full of myself to accomplish diddly shit.
Nonetheless, I am here now and soaking in much more and listening as well without all of the fanfare. I'm done fucking around and although I know a lot of you fucks are doubting me and frankly don't care, I am enjoying proving you wrong day by day.
Dude you got a huge support group of badass quitters behind you! Keep up the battle and stay pissed at world if that's what it takes! Oh yeah I'm not one of the fucks doubting you , I'm trying to help you pull your head out of your ass and beat this shit!
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I just spent the AM rereading most of these ten pages. Looking back at myself a year ago, I was/am a buffoon. I talked like one and acted like one. Way too fucking full of myself to accomplish diddly shit.
Nonetheless, I am here now and soaking in much more and listening as well without all of the fanfare. I'm done fucking around and although I know a lot of you fucks are doubting me and frankly don't care, I am enjoying proving you wrong day by day.
Dude you got a huge support group of badass quitters behind you! Keep up the battle and stay pissed at world if that's what it takes! Oh yeah I'm not one of the fucks doubting you , I'm trying to help you pull your head out of your ass and beat this shit!
Thanks bro.
Honestly though, days 7/8 have been worse than any of the first 6. Like I'm in the biggest fog ever and grumpy as can fucking be. Ive had pounding headaches and neckaches. My fuckin lip is always jonesing no matter how much sunflower seeds I stick in there. And I've had the worst sweet tooth haha. But seriously I feel like I could fucking punch a few holes in the damn wall and only feel slightly better.
I can only imagine what this would be like if I weren't working out twice a day...
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I just spent the AM rereading most of these ten pages. Looking back at myself a year ago, I was/am a buffoon. I talked like one and acted like one. Way too fucking full of myself to accomplish diddly shit.
Nonetheless, I am here now and soaking in much more and listening as well without all of the fanfare. I'm done fucking around and although I know a lot of you fucks are doubting me and frankly don't care, I am enjoying proving you wrong day by day.
Dude you got a huge support group of badass quitters behind you! Keep up the battle and stay pissed at world if that's what it takes! Oh yeah I'm not one of the fucks doubting you , I'm trying to help you pull your head out of your ass and beat this shit!
Thanks bro.
Honestly though, days 7/8 have been worse than any of the first 6. Like I'm in the biggest fog ever and grumpy as can fucking be. Ive had pounding headaches and neckaches. My fuckin lip is always jonesing no matter how much sunflower seeds I stick in there. And I've had the worst sweet tooth haha. But seriously I feel like I could fucking punch a few holes in the damn wall and only feel slightly better.
I can only imagine what this would be like if I weren't working out twice a day...
Good. This needs to hurt.
Change your mindset to... Man I will never have to relive this bullshit again. Turn this pain into a mental win. And do not forget what these last 2 days were like.
You can do anything for a day. Just quit for today.
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I just spent the AM rereading most of these ten pages. Looking back at myself a year ago, I was/am a buffoon. I talked like one and acted like one. Way too fucking full of myself to accomplish diddly shit.
Nonetheless, I am here now and soaking in much more and listening as well without all of the fanfare. I'm done fucking around and although I know a lot of you fucks are doubting me and frankly don't care, I am enjoying proving you wrong day by day.
Dude you got a huge support group of badass quitters behind you! Keep up the battle and stay pissed at world if that's what it takes! Oh yeah I'm not one of the fucks doubting you , I'm trying to help you pull your head out of your ass and beat this shit!
Thanks bro.
Honestly though, days 7/8 have been worse than any of the first 6. Like I'm in the biggest fog ever and grumpy as can fucking be. Ive had pounding headaches and neckaches. My fuckin lip is always jonesing no matter how much sunflower seeds I stick in there. And I've had the worst sweet tooth haha. But seriously I feel like I could fucking punch a few holes in the damn wall and only feel slightly better.
I can only imagine what this would be like if I weren't working out twice a day...
Good. This needs to hurt.
Change your mindset to... Man I will never have to relive this bullshit again. Turn this pain into a mental win. And do not forget what these last 2 days were like.
You can do anything for a day. Just quit for today.
Sounds like it's working! Embrace the suck until it don't suck anymore!